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Wunderground launches new Local Climate Change section

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 6:10 PM GMT on April 20, 2012

In honor of Earth Day on Sunday, wunderground has launched a new Climate Change Center, which gives people resources to understand how the climate is changing both globally and in their local neighborhoods. I am particularly pleased with our Local Climate Change feature, which allows one to see how temperature and precipitation have changed over the past 100+ years at the nearest station with a long period of measurements. Predictions from climate models on what the next 100 years may bring are overlaid for each station. Data for most U.S. stations goes back to 1895; we have data for a few stations in Europe that extend back to the 1700s. Berlin has the longest period of record in this database, with data back to 1702.


Figure 1. Screenshot of the Local Climate Change page for Washington, DC. Measured temperatures since 1820 are shown in grey. By clicking on the "Show post-1900 trend:" box, we see that the trend since 1900 has been for an increase in temperature of 1.5°C (2.7°F) per century. Moving the thin vertical red line over the image using the mouse shows that the warmest year on record in Washington D.C. was 1991. Predictions for a future with low emissions of heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide are shown in yellow; the high emissions prediction is shown in red. Separate tabs are available to examine precipitation and snow.

Skeptical?
Also included in the new Climate Change Center is a section addressing the common skeptical arguments made against climate change. We offer three levels of explanation. The "Basic" level is the default, but one can also see more technical in-depth discussions by clicking on the "See All Explanation Levels" link. The material was developed by physicist John Cook for his excellent skepticalscience.com web site, which is widely referenced in the climate science communication community.


Video 1. I'm featured in this video on extreme weather and climate change done by veteran videographer Peter Sinclair for the Yale forum on Climate Change and the Media this month. I'm also featured in Part 1 of this series. Our new Climate Change Center has a section for climate change videos, which includes a twice-monthly feature from GreenTV detailing the world's notable wild weather events of the past two weeks.

Earth: the Operator's Manual airs Sunday night
Penn State climate scientist Dr. Richard Alley hosts parts II and III of Earth: the Operator's Manual on PBS beginning at 7pm Sunday, April 22--Earth Day. Part I of this excellent series aired in April 2011. The series gives an overview of climate change, but primarily focuses on what we can do to help slow down climate change though smart energy choices. Dr. Alley, a registered Republican, geologist, and former oil company employee, is the Evan Pugh Professor of Geosciences at the Pennsylvania State University, and one of the most respected and widely published world experts on climate change. Dr. Alley has testified before Congress on climate change issues, served as lead author of "Chapter 4: Observations: Changes in Snow, Ice and Frozen Ground" for the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and is author of more than 170 peer-reviewed scientific articles on Earth's climate. He is also the author of a book I highly recommend--The Two Mile Time Machine, a superb account of Earth's climate history as deduced from the 2-mile long Greenland ice cores. Dr. Alley is an excellent and engaging speaker, and I highly recommend listening to his 45-minute keynote speech, "The Biggest Control Knob: CO2 in Earth's Climate History", given at the 2010 American Geophysical Union meeting, via this very watchable recording showing his slides as he speaks in one corner of the video. If you want to understand why scientists are so certain of the link between CO2 and Earth's climate, this is a must-see lecture.

Have a great weekend, everyone, and I'll be back Monday with a new post. I'd like to thank Wunderground meteorologist, Angela Fritz for spearheading the creating the new Climate Change Center; it's a product I'll be referring to frequently in the future, and one we'll be updating in the coming months with data on local sea level rise, fire risk, and drought.

Jeff Masters

Climate Change

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Rapidly strengthening low pressure area off our coast.

Down to 996 mbar.



GEOS-5 has been calling to bottom it at 992mb for a few days.
1503. nigel20
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Rapidly strengthening low pressure area off our coast.

Down to 996 mbar.


whats the temp. like in ur area?
Quoting Skyepony:


GEOS-5 has been calling to bottom it at 992mb for a few days.

Link gives me this:

"bad bad_referer"

Quoting nigel20:

whats the temp. like in ur area?

We are sitting near 60 °F.
this is going too be a long long hot summer
1476 BahaHurican: ...tough job, but I made it through. Least my bills didn't end up in San Souci

Better than ending up sans culottes.
Next up on FX....2012

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Link gives me this:

"bad bad_referer"



Sorry about the Bad bad referer..

Try this & click on the map, then animate or what ever.

Always looked at the NASA GMAO input on ENSO. It's nice to see their short term weather forecast model run. So far it's really nailed this.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I'm watching it. Need some cheering up. Going to watch Old Yeller next.
check out AVATAR

here is some clips



1510. nigel20
1504 TropicalAnalystwx13: Link gives me..."bad bad_referer"

Probably complaining about its lingering hangover from the 20April smoke-in.
Quoting aspectre:
1504 TropicalAnalystwx13: Link gives me..."bad bad_referer"

Probably complainin' about a lingering hangover from the 20April smoke-in.


Ya and 421 is national drug test day..

Good evening all, i see we have a snow event coming up in the Appalachians.

I was looking over the gulf temps earlier and looks like they have decreased slightly of late.
1513. nigel20
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Next up on FX....2012


the scene where water was coming over the Himalayas was so fake as there is not enough water on earth to reach anywhere close to the height of the Himalayas
Quoting nigel20:

the scene where water was coming over the Himalayas was so fake as there is not enough water on earth to reach anywhere close to the height of the Himalayas


Actually all oof the water on earth (groundwater, and Icecaps) would cover my everests peak, however no way a tsunami could do that
1515. Grothar
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I'm watching it. Need some cheering up. Going to watch Old Yeller next.


Oh,yeah. That will cheer anybody up.
Quoting Grothar:


Oh,yeah. That will cheer anybody up.


Never seen the movie but I read the book but it was sad
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Next up on FX....2012

That movie sucked..
1513 nigel20 the scene where water was coming over the Himalayas was so fake as there is not enough water on earth to reach anywhere close to the height of the Himalayas

Not thinking titanic enough. That's a video of the Himalayas sinking 29,000feet(8,840metres).
Quoting aspectre:
1513 nigel20 the scene where water was coming over the Himalayas was so fake as there is not enough water on earth to reach anywhere close to the height of the Himalayas

Not thinking titanic enough. That's a video of the Himalayas sinking 29,000feet(8,840metres).


No the said specifically in the movie it was a tsunami!
1520. nigel20
Quoting washingtonian115:
That movie sucked..

Just like most hollywood movies....2012 had a lot of fake stuff and some people that watched the movie where asking if what occured in the movie will happen in reality
1519 weatherh98: No, they said specifically in the movie it was a tsunami!

So you sayin' that sinking the Himalayas wouldn't produce a tsunami?
1522. nigel20
Quoting aspectre:
1519 weatherh98: No, they said specifically in the movie it was a tsunami!

So you sayin' that sinking the Himalayas wouldn't produce a tsunami?

I could understand if they had an Asteroid impacting the ocean and creating a mega Tsunami
Quoting nigel20:

Just like most hollywood movies....2012 had a lot of fake stuff and some people that watched the movie where asking if what occured in the movie will happen in reality
Well the tsunami could technically happen. You would need a land mass displacement equal to that of the entire nation of India falling into the ocean at once. Or you can always go with a massive meteor/comet impacting the ocean. Everything they showed is possible but not with the correct forces being applied to cause the events. The only thing that was not possible in the movie was the ash flow making it all the way to LA and the magnitude 10 earthquake.
I guess we're movie critics now :)
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Well the tsunami could technically happen. You would need a land mass displacement equal to that of the entire nation of India falling into the ocean at once. Or you can always go with a massive meteor/comet impacting the ocean. Everything they showed is possible but not with the correct forces being applied to cause the events. The only thing that was not possible in the movie was the ash flow making it all the way to LA and the magnitude 10 earthquake.


Oh, and when the aircraft carrier hit the white house it is completely the wrong size...
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Well the tsunami could technically happen. You would need a land mass displacement equal to that of the entire nation of India falling into the ocean at once. Or you can always go with a massive meteor/comet impacting the ocean. Everything they showed is possible but not with the correct forces being applied to cause the events. The only thing that was not possible in the movie was the ash flow making it all the way to LA and the magnitude 10 earthquake.


Yea the ash would fall to the south east!
1527. Patrap
He picks up a bus and he throws it back down
As he wades through the buildings toward the center of town

Oh, no, they say he's got to go
Go go Godzilla
Oh, no, there goes Tokyo
Go go Godzilla
1529. Grothar
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
I guess we're movie critics now :)


:)
1530. Patrap
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!


Not even my generation and barely my dad's generation. But that is still a great song!
1532. Patrap
Saw BOC opening for Judas Priest at Houston University in 79,..


British Steel Tour


Quoting Patrap:
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!



Pat, Where did you get that picture from?
1534. nigel20
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Well the tsunami could technically happen. You would need a land mass displacement equal to that of the entire nation of India falling into the ocean at once. Or you can always go with a massive meteor/comet impacting the ocean. Everything they showed is possible but not with the correct forces being applied to cause the events. The only thing that was not possible in the movie was the ash flow making it all the way to LA and the magnitude 10 earthquake.

Yeah, but close to the end they were saying that only some new mountains in Africa were not covered by water....this is also very unlikely or not possible
Quoting Grothar:


Oh,yeah. That will cheer anybody up.


You are right. Dr. Strangelove is on also. Peter Sellers always made me laugh.
Quoting PedleyCA:


The calendar for those 2 cities shows a 99 for 04/02/2012

If you are using Weather Underground, the Zapata monthly data redirects to Laredo, and I wasn't able to find any of the actual Zapata data.
1537. Patrap
Quoting PlazaRed:

Pat, Where did you get that picture from?



Google Images, HERE
1538. hydrus
12 hour precip w/ freeze line..
1539. hydrus
Water vapor 24 hour forecast..
Quoting Patrap:



Google Images, HERE

Thanks Pat,
There are some Narsty looking things on there!
Glad you don't have any of them this weekend!
1542. Patrap
Quoting PlazaRed:

Thanks Pat,
There are some Narsty looking things on there!
Glad you don't have any of them this weekend!


You bet,dem Nadoe's can turn ones life upside down in a flash.

Quoting nigel20:

Just like most hollywood movies....2012 had a lot of fake stuff and some people that watched the movie where asking if what occured in the movie will happen in reality
I don't think that really is going to happen.Unless something really weird goes on in the earths center.
Back again. I went out for something, and while gone decided to detour through the area allegedly hit by a tornado. I observed one house with about 1/2 of its roof being replaced, another where an add-on porch seemed to have been wind-shredded, and evidence of high winds in the form of uprooted trees, downed limbs and in the case of larger trees, leaves completely missing. One tree looked like post-cat 2 damage. I didn't get any photos, though.

I dunno how expert our mets are at judging tornado damage; it's not really an area of expertise they woul have concentrated on in their training. I certainly don't have any extensive experience myself. But aside from the roof damage, most of what I saw could have been done by straight line winds over a period of time and given moist soil.

The roof damage looked like tornado, not hurricane. The western side of the roof was perfectly fine; the eastern side was gone.
Well You've got:-
Storms, blizzards, heat waves and even had a 91L off your coast!
All we have got is a boring French National election and the standard cold blustery low over the UK.
Fake or not, 2012 was an excellent movie.

A is my grade for it.
good rain for bad drought
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Fake or not, 2012 was an excellent movie.

A is my grade for it.


...Not sure if serious.
1549. nigel20
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Fake or not, 2012 was an excellent movie.

A is my grade for it.

Yes it was a good. Movie
1550. ncstorm
If you guys want to watch a good movie about the end of the world..rent "The Knowing" with Nicolas Cage.. People who think the sun will be our demise will appreciate it.
1551. bappit
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Next up on FX....2012


Apocalypse Theater
Quoting ncstorm:
If you guys want to watch a good movie about the end of the world..rent "The Knowing" with Nicolas Cage.. People who think the sun will be our demise will appreciate it.
I've herd about that one but still haven't look into it.
1553. nigel20
April 22, SST Anomaly
Quoting washingtonian115:
I've herd about that one but still haven't look into it.


It's pretty good and creepy
Quoting MississippiWx:


...Not sure if serious.

You got a problem with 2012? :P
1556. Thrawst
Quoting BahaHurican:
Back again. I went out for something, and while gone decided to detour through the area allegedly hit by a tornado. I observed one house with about 1/2 of its roof being replaced, another where an add-on porch seemed to have been wind-shredded, and evidence of high winds in the form of uprooted trees, downed limbs and in the case of larger trees, leaves completely missing. One tree looked like post-cat 2 damage. I didn't get any photos, though.

I dunno how expert our mets are at judging tornado damage; it's not really an area of expertise they woul have concentrated on in their training. I certainly don't have any extensive experience myself. But aside from the roof damage, most of what I saw could have been done by straight line winds over a period of time and given moist soil.

The roof damage looked like tornado, not hurricane. The western side of the roof was perfectly fine; the eastern side was gone.


Dayum, Nassau had a tornado yesterday? I was in Miami xD
1557. nigel20
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Quoting nigel20:

The SAL is pretty weak at the moment
This is what Tazmaniac has been saying for days. He's calling for above average tropical activity this season.
Mother Nature reminding us again that she is power full it shook quite hard
Quoting belizeit:
Mother Nature reminding us again that she is power full it shook quite hard

It was a magnitude 5.1.
Quoting belizeit:
Mother Nature reminding us again that she is power full it shook quite hard


Earthquake Details

This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

Magnitude 5.1
Date-Time

Monday, April 23, 2012 at 00:20:40 UTC
Sunday, April 22, 2012 at 06:20:40 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 15.866°N, 89.182°W
Depth 57.2 km (35.5 miles)
Region GUATEMALA
Distances 64 km (39 miles) WNW of Puerto Barrios, Guatemala
124 km (77 miles) NNE of Chiquimula, Guatemala
200 km (124 miles) NE of GUATEMALA, Guatemala
1130 km (702 miles) ESE of MEXICO CITY, D.F., Mexico
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 16.2 km (10.1 miles); depth +/- 9.3 km (5.8 miles)
Parameters NST=360, Nph=363, Dmin=287.2 km, Rmss=0.75 sec, Gp=112°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=A
Source

Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID usc00099n2
1562. nigel20
April 21, 2011

April 21, 2012
Quoting nigel20:
April 21, 2011

April 21, 2012

The East Pac could have 25 storms this year
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

The East Pac could have 25 storms this year
Tazmaniac has predicted an early start for EPAC and is calling for 32 storms. What do you think?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It was a magnitude 5.1.
Its been a few years since the last one hit but they always remind me of the one that happened close to the same area in 1976 killing 20000 people in guatemala.
1566. LargoFl
Quoting Patrap:
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!


Gee that is one beautiful picture
1567. LargoFl
Quoting nigel20:
April 21, 2011

April 21, 2012


El niño in some parts and still la niña in others
Quoting kipperedherring:
Tazmaniac has predicted an early start for EPAC and is calling for 32 storms. What do you think?

32 might be pushing it... I think more like 20-23 storms, maybe 7-9 majors
1570. nigel20
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It was a magnitude 5.1.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Earthquake Details

This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

Magnitude 5.1
Date-Time

Monday, April 23, 2012 at 00:20:40 UTC
Sunday, April 22, 2012 at 06:20:40 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 15.866°N, 89.182°W
Depth 57.2 km (35.5 miles)
Region GUATEMALA
Distances 64 km (39 miles) WNW of Puerto Barrios, Guatemala
124 km (77 miles) NNE of Chiquimula, Guatemala
200 km (124 miles) NE of GUATEMALA, Guatemala
1130 km (702 miles) ESE of MEXICO CITY, D.F., Mexico
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 16.2 km (10.1 miles); depth +/- 9.3 km (5.8 miles)
Parameters NST=360, Nph=363, Dmin=287.2 km, Rmss=0.75 sec, Gp=112°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=A
Source

Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID usc00099n2

I've been in a few M5.0
One severe thunderstorm in the entire country today...

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV
559 PM PDT SUN APR 22 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RENO HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
WEST CENTRAL CHURCHILL COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL NEVADA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF FALLON...

* UNTIL 645 PM PDT

* AT 552 PM PDT...FALLON NAVAL AIR STATION REPORTED A SEVERE
THUNDERSTORM PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS NEAR 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS
LOCATED NEAR FALLON...AND MOVING NORTH AT 10 MPH.

* LOCATIONS AFFECTED INCLUDE...FALLON.

PREPARE NOW FOR HIGH WINDS...HAIL...HEAVY RAIN AND DEADLY LIGHTNING.
DURING A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM...SEEK SHELTER INSIDE A STURDY STRUCTURE
AND STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

THIS STORM HAS DEVELOPED VERY QUICKLY...AND WILL PRODUCE A BURST OF
HIGH WINDS...HAIL...HEAVY RAIN...AND FREQUENT CLOUD TO GROUND
LIGHTNING. AREAS OF BLOWING DUST MAY RAPIDLY REDUCE VISIBILITIES TO
BELOW ONE MILE. SEEK SAFE SHELTER...AND STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS AND
GLASS DOORS.

LAT...LON 3971 11892 3968 11861 3936 11870 3938 11893
TIME...MOT...LOC 0058Z 187DEG 11KT 3946 11880

$$

JHW




Quoting MAweatherboy1:

32 might be pushing it... I think more like 20-23 storms, maybe 7-9 majors
I'm with you, but his predictions have been uncannily accurate in the past. Je was actually talking about this earthquake a week ago!
1573. LargoFl
going to get a bit nasty up there i guess when this low gets there.............SHORT TERM FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
842 PM EDT SUN APR 22 2012

DEZ001-MDZ008-NJZ009-010-012>020-026-027-PAZ067>0 71-230330-
NEW CASTLE-CECIL-HUNTERDON-SOMERSET-MIDDLESEX-WESTERN MONMOUTH-
EASTERN MONMOUTH-MERCER-SALEM-GLOUCESTER-CAMDEN-
NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-OCEAN-COASTAL OCEAN-
SOUTHEASTERN BURLINGTON-CHESTER-MONTGOMERY-BUCKS-DELAWARE-
PHILADELPHIA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILMINGTON...ELKTON...FLEMINGTON...
SOMERVILLE...NEW BRUNSWICK...FREEHOLD...SANDY HOOK...TRENTON...
PENNSVILLE...GLASSBORO...CAMDEN...CHERRY HILL...MOORESTOWN...
MOUNT HOLLY...JACKSON...LONG BEACH ISLAND...
WHARTON STATE FOREST...WEST CHESTER...NORRISTOWN...DOYLESTOWN...
MEDIA...PHILADELPHIA
842 PM EDT SUN APR 22 2012

.NOW...
RAIN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH 11 PM. ANYWHERE BETWEEN ONE-QUARTER
INCH AND ONE INCH OF RAIN IS FORECAST BETWEEN 845 PM AND 11 PM,
WHICH WOULD BRING RAINFALL AMOUNTS FOR THE EVENT SO FAR TO THE
TWO INCH RANGE. TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE UPPER 40S TO NEAR 50.
WINDS WILL BE FROM THE NORTHEAST AT 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS OF 30
TO 40 MPH.

$$
1574. Patrap
1575. Patrap

1499 ScottLincoln I'd be very skeptical of such claims or hypotheses (it is erroneously called a theory) of tsunami debris causing the 2012 North American heatwave or even changing weather in a statistically significant way. Much more evidence would need to be presented, including putting this area of debris in context with previous known events, before this could become more than a very speculative, weakly substantiated hypothesis.

I agree with your points. My quibble was specificly with the misuse of 'pseudoscientific' and 'theory'.
On the other hand, within my memory...
...nobody had ever made such a speculation before. And so no evidence had been gathered, no models had been made for similar previous events. Thus airing the idea might have been useful in spurring folks to gather that kind of data this time around for use in later modeling studies.
1577. nigel20
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

The East Pac could have 25 storms this year

I think that would be dependent on a moderate to strong el nino
1578. LargoFl
Quoting nigel20:

I've been in a few M5.0
The worst i felt was 7.3 so this was nothing to that . I see a lot of people felt this and from quite a distance to considering it was only a 5.1
RIS commence
1582. LargoFl
after the joplin twister
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

The East Pac could have 25 storms this year

I doubt it will be that active...maybe in the order of 18-20 storms.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Fake or not, 2012 was an excellent movie.

A is my grade for it.


psh not even close... a c+ the physics is terrible and the cgi makes things look extremely fake.
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


psh not even close... a c+ the physics is terrible and the cgi makes things look extremely fake.

You try making a completely fake movie look real with tsunamis, earthquakes, and volcanoes. :)
It was quite foggy this morning in Brisbane, Australia.

1587. nigel20
Quoting belizeit:
The worst i felt was 7.3 so this was nothing to that . I see a lot of people felt this and from quite a distance to considering it was only a 5.1

The last time Jamaica had anything close to that was 1907 when most of Kingston was destroyed
While it's snowing in the Northeast, there's plenty of heat down the diagonal; Death Valley reached 113 today, for instance, while Phoenix hit 105, tying that city's all-time high temperature record for April. Las Vegas reached 99, also tying its hottest April temp.

According to the SPC, the Big April 2012 Florida Severe Weather Event didn't amount to much; no tornadoes and no hail have yet been reported in the state, and fewer than a dozen wind reports were submitted.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You try making a completely fake movie look real with tsunamis, earthquakes, and volcanoes. :)


Haha, they
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You try making a completely fake movie look real with tsunamis, earthquakes, and volcanoes. :)


Give me 200 million dollars, ill make it easily :)
1590. nigel20
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
It was quite foggy this morning in Brisbane, Australia.


Thats a nice view
1592. nigel20
Quoting Patrap:



Yesterday's Storm Reports (1200 UTC - 1159 UTC)

I know there are usually overcounting of tornadoes, but do you have undercounting as well?
Bring it on!!! For West Palm Beach.

Quoting PlazaRed:
Well You've got:-
Storms, blizzards, heat waves and even had a 91L off your coast!
All we have got is a boring French National election and the standard cold blustery low over the UK.


Did ya have to drag the French into it, roflmao
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It was a magnitude 5.1.


A 5.1 is quite an earthquake. It will buckle your knees and shake the hell out of everything nearby and if it isn't sound that will be enough to shake it loose. Been through a few of those sized ones and few over 6.6-6.7
1596. nigel20
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Bring it on!!! For West Palm Beach.


Nice temps
What's up Nigel.
r.e. Neapolitan Post 1588,

This was on WU's page for Truckee, CA (Which is also quite warm today):

... Record high temperature set at Reno Tahoe Airport NV...

a record high temperature of 90 degrees was set at Reno Tahoe Airport NV today.
This breaks the old record of 84 set in 1888.

This also Marks the first time the 90 degree threshold has been
recorded at the Reno Tahoe Airport in the month of April since
temperature observations have been recorded starting on January
1st... 1888.

Snow breaking out over the Adirondacks. Forecast did not call for any snow there (only over western NY).
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Bring it on!!! For West Palm Beach.

Not bad temps, 90s and 100s today between Austin Texas and Southern Calif. 92 here today but No humidity.
1601. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:
What's up Nigel.

i'm good...how are you pedley?
Quoting oldnewmex:
r.e. Neapolitan Post 1588,

This was on WU's page for Truckee, CA (Which is also quite warm today):

... Record high temperature set at Reno Tahoe Airport NV...

a record high temperature of 90 degrees was set at Reno Tahoe Airport NV today.
This breaks the old record of 84 set in 1888.

This also Marks the first time the 90 degree threshold has been
recorded at the Reno Tahoe Airport in the month of April since
temperature observations have been recorded starting on January
1st... 1888.



Truckee also was a State Low 30 -- saw that on Today's State Extremes.
Quoting nigel20:

i'm good...how are you pedley?


Just chillin, temps are back around 80. Been way over that here and it has been too hot. Have get my cooler set up for the year and just didn't get it done yet and suffered for it. Glad it wasn't humid as well.
TropicalAnalystwx13: You try making a completely fake movie look real with tsunamis, earthquakes, and volcanoes. :)
1589 VAbeachhurricanes: Give me 200 million dollars, I'll make it easily :)

Give me $200million in cash, and I'll find better uses for it than making a movie.
1605. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:


Just chillin, temps are back around 80. Been way over that here and it has been too hot. Have get my cooler set up for the year and just didn't get it done yet and suffered for it. Glad it wasn't humid as well.

I guest you'll have a long summer
1606. nigel20
Quoting aspectre:
TropicalAnalystwx13: You try making a completely fake movie look real with tsunamis, earthquakes, and volcanoes. :)
1589 VAbeachhurricanes: Give me 200 million dollars, I'll make it easily :)

Give me $200million in cash, and I'll find better uses for it than making a movie.

I couldn't agree with you more
Quoting nigel20:

I guess you'll have a long summer


It will be OK once I get some new Celdek Pads for my cooler. The ones I have are original.
What's your internet connection speed down there?
1608. bappit
Quoting nigel20:

I know there are usually overcounting of tornadoes, but do you have undercounting as well?

The idea that we could significantly undercount tornadoes that really matter seems like a contradiction. If it really counts, it is counted--if one wants to phrase it like a tautology, play with words a bit.

I like the idea of not issuing tornado warnings for short-lived vortexes. Call it a severe thunderstorm. The tornado is gone before the warning is issued. (Saw that in the interview posted on here of a TV met from Alabama. I strongly suspect this idea is not new.)



whats eve seeing

1611. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:


It will be OK once I get some new Celdek Pads for my cooler. The ones I have are original.
What's your internet connection speed down there?

12 mbps, why?
1612. nigel20
Quoting bappit:

The idea that we could significantly undercount tornadoes that really matter seems like a contradiction. If it really counts, it is counted--if one wants to phrase it like a tautology, play with words a bit.

I like the idea of not issuing tornado warnings for short-lived vortexes. Call it a severe thunderstorm. The tornado is gone before the warning is issued. (Saw that in the interview posted on here of a TV met from Alabama. I strongly suspect this idea is not new.)




Thanks for your input bappit
1613. bappit
Quoting aspectre:
TropicalAnalystwx13: You try making a completely fake movie look real with tsunamis, earthquakes, and volcanoes. :)
1589 VAbeachhurricanes: Give me 200 million dollars, I'll make it easily :)

Give me $200million in cash, and I'll find better uses for it than making a movie.

Spending money is not always as easy as it might seem. See the Solyndra fiasco. Wikipedia: "Although the company was once touted for its unusual technology, plummeting silicon prices led to the company being unable to compete with more conventional solar panels." You also have to deal with all the people who just want your 200 million dollars and lie to your face when you try to find out what is really going on. It is hard to watch where all the money goes and make things work. Risk and uncertainty are constant companions when running a venture of that size. If you want to "do the right thing", I suspect the risks increase.

Addendum: The last point would explain the dichotomy between "doing the right thing" and soul-less commercial ventures like making a bad movie and a profit at the same time.
Quoting nigel20:

12 mbps, why?


Too Funny, I just barely got 6.0 here. I had 1.4(3G) wireless because it was all I could get and they just got the Park set up
for that AT&T Uverse. I can get 12.0 if I want to shell out more $.
Sure make loading all this stuff easier and it is cheaper that what I
had before. Just wondered what you had. It does seem like the places you would think would have good stuff don't. Where I live there is cable and all kinds of good stuff but nothing right where I lived. No Infrastructure for it.
1615. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:


Too Funny, I just barely got 6.0 here. I had 1.4(3G) wireless because it was all I could get and they just got the Park set up
for that AT&T Uverse. I can get 12.0 if I want to shell out more $.
Sure make loading all this stuff easier and it is cheaper that what I
had before. Just wondered what you had. It does seem like the places you would think would have good stuff don't. Where I live there is cable and all kinds of good stuff but nothing right where I lived. No Infrastructure for it.

What's your data cap?
Quoting nigel20:

What's your data cap?


150GB which I won't be able to get close to. I had 3G which was unlimited for $70 and only managed to use about 10GB a month. I don't think it will exceed that by much. I don't watch movies with it. But I guess I could. Glad I finally came out of the stone age here. Too far from the phone company for DSL so I had dialup till I got 3G a couple years ago. OK, life story over.
1617. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:


150GB which I won't be able to get close to. I had 3G which was unlimited for $70 and only managed to use about 10GB a month. I don't think it will exceed that by much. I don't watch movies with it. But I guess I could. Glad I finally came out of the stone age here. Too far from the phone company for DSL so I had dialup till I got 3G a couple years ago. OK, life story over.

Yeah, that's a large data cap even for heavy users
Quoting nigel20:

Yeah, that's a large data cap even for heavy users


I bet if you got a few teenagers they could find a way to use it up.
1619. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:


I bet if you got a few teenagers they could find a way to use it up.

Yeah, by downloading tons of games and watching countless hours of videos
1620. Patrap
The Fukushima Nuclear Disaster Is Far From Over
Posted: 04/22/2012 3:45 pm


Spent reactor fuel, containing roughly 85 times more long-lived radioactivity than released at Chernobyl, still sits in pools vulnerable to earthquakes.

More than a year after the Fukushima nuclear power disaster began, the news media is just beginning to grasp that the dangers to Japan and the rest of the world are far from over. After repeated warnings by former senior Japanese officials, nuclear experts, and now a U.S. Senator, it's sinking in that the irradiated nuclear fuel stored in spent fuel pools amidst the reactor ruins pose far greater dangers than the molten cores. This is why:

• Nearly all of the 10,893 spent fuel assemblies sit in pools vulnerable to future earthquakes, with roughly 85 times more long-lived radioactivity than released at Chernobyl
• Several pools are 100 feet above the ground and are completely open to the atmosphere because the reactor buildings were demolished by explosions. The pools could possibly topple or collapse from structural damage coupled with another powerful earthquake.

• The loss of water exposing the spent fuel will result in overheating and can cause melting and ignite its zirconium metal cladding resulting in a fire that could deposit large amounts of radioactive materials over hundreds, if not thousands of miles.

This was not lost on Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), who after visiting the site on April 6, wrote to Japan's U.S. ambassador, Ichiro Fujusaki, that "loss of containment in any of these pools... could result an even larger release of radiation than the nuclear accident."

The urgency of the situation is underscored by the ongoing seismic activity where 13 earthquakes of magnitude 4.0-5.7 have occurred off the northeast coast of Japan between April 14 and 17. This has been the norm since the first quake and tsunami hit the Dai-Ichi site on March 11 of last year. Larger quakes are expected closer to the power plant.

Spent nuclear fuel is extraordinarily radioactive and must be handled with great care. In a matter of seconds, an unprotected person one foot away from a single freshly removed spent fuel assembly would receive a lethal dose of radiation within seconds. As one of the most dangerous materials on the planet, spent reactor fuel requires permanent geological isolation to protect humans for thousands of years.

It's been 26 years, since the Chernobyl reactor exploded and caught fire releasing enormous amounts of radioactive debris -- seriously contaminating areas over a thousand miles away. Chernobyl revealed the folly of not having an extra barrier of thick concrete and steel surrounding the reactor core that is required for modern plants, in the U.S., Japan and elsewhere. The Fukushima Dai-Ichi accident revealed the folly of operating several nuclear power plants in a high consequence earthquake zone while storing huge amounts of highly radioactive spent fuel in vulnerable pools, high above the ground.

What both accidents have in common is widespread environmental contamination from cesium-137. With a half-life of 30, years, Cs-137 gives off penetrating radiation, as it decays and can remain dangerous for hundreds of years. Once in the environment, it mimics potassium as it accumulates in the food chain. When it enters the human body, about 75 percent lodges in muscle tissue, with, perhaps, the most important muscle being the heart.

Last week, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) revealed plans to remove 2,274 spent fuel assemblies from the damaged reactors that will probably take at least a decade to accomplish. The first priority will be removal of the contents in Pool No. 4. This pool is structurally damaged and contains about 10 times more cesium-137 than released at Chernobyl. Removal of SNF from the No. 4 reactor is optimistically expected to begin at the end of 2013. A significant amount of construction to remove debris and reinforce the structurally-damaged reactor buildings, especially the fuel- handling areas, will be required.

Also, it is not safe to keep 1,882 spent fuel assemblies containing ~57 million curies of long-lived radioactivity, including nearly 15 times more cs-137 than released at Chernobyl in the elevated pools at reactors 5, 6, and 7, which did not experience meltdowns and explosions.

The main reason why there is so much spent fuel at the Da-Ichi site is that the plan to send it off for nuclear recycling has collapsed. It was supposed to go to the incomplete Rokkasho reprocessing plant, just south of the Fukushima nuclear site, where plutonium would be extracted as a fuel for "fast" reactors. This scheme is based on long discredited assumptions that world uranium supplies would be rapidly exhausted and that a new generation of "fast" reactors, which held the promise of making more fuel than they use, would be needed. Over the past 20 years the Rokkasho's costs have tripled along with 18 major delays. World uranium supplies are far from depleted. Moreover, in November of last year, Japan's "fast" reactor project at Monju was cancelled for cost and safety reasons -- dealing a major blow to this whole scheme.

The stark reality, if TEPCO's plan is realized, is that nearly all of the spent fuel at the Da-Ichi containing some of the largest concentrations of radioactivity on the planet will remain indefinitely in vulnerable pools. TEPCO wants to store the spent fuel from the damaged reactors in the common pool, and only to resort to dry, cask storage when the common pool's capacity is exceeded. At this time, the common pool is at 80 percent storage capacity and will require removal of SNF to make room. TEPCO's plan is to minimize dry cask storage as much as possible and to rely indefinitely on vulnerable pool storage. Sen. Wyden finds that that TEPCO's plan for remediation carries extraordinary and continuing risk and sensibly recommends that retrieval of spent fuel in existing on-site spent fuel pools to safer storage... in dry casks should be a priority.

Despite the enormous destruction from the earthquake and tsunami, little attention was paid to the fact that the nine dry spent fuel casks at the Fukushima Da-Ichi site were unscathed. This is an important lesson we cannot afford to ignore.
for $200million i take this hole blog on vancan in i by the rooms for evere one
Quoting nigel20:

Yeah, by downloading tons of games and watching countless hours of videos


This is so much better than what I had with the 3G that was 1.4Mbps and the cap was 5GB for $52, then I changed to another
company and got unlimited (50GB?) for $70. They said if you went over they would look into it. Almost impossible for one person to do.
1624. nigel20
Quoting Tazmanian:
for $200million i take this hole blog on vancan in i by the rooms for evere one

You're such a kind lad Taz
1625. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:


This is so much better than what I had with the 3G that was 1.4Mbps and the cap was 5GB for $52, then I changed to another
company and got unlimited (50GB?) for $70. They said if you went over they would look into it. Almost impossible for one person to do.

Agreed
1626. j2008
Quoting Neapolitan:
While it's snowing in the Northeast, there's plenty of heat down the diagonal; Death Valley reached 113 today, for instance, while Phoenix hit 105, tying that city's all-time high temperature record for April. Las Vegas reached 99, also tying its hottest April temp.

According to the SPC, the Big April 2012 Florida Severe Weather Event didn't amount to much; no tornadoes and no hail have yet been reported in the state, and fewer than a dozen wind reports were submitted.
We hit 101 or 102 here today. 2nd Earliest occation ever.
OK Fellow Bloggers, time to call it a night. Stay Safe and any of you up in the N.E. take it easy on those roads that may have ice on them.
Have a Good Night All.
Quoting Thrawst:


Dayum, Nassau had a tornado yesterday? I was in Miami xD
Overnight. I can't wait to hear what, if anything, is said about it on the news 2 morrow...

1629. bappit
Someone posted this a couple days ago. Current version tells about the same story. Looks like the ridge out west will be setting up shop.

1630. nigel20
Quoting BahaHurican:
Overnight. I can't wait to hear what, if anything, is said about it on the news 2 morrow...


Whats up Baha...was the cause of the damage determined?
Quoting Tazmanian:
for $200million i take this hole blog on vancan in i by the rooms for evere one
We could go to a hurricane zone.

Oh wait... I could just stay home... no fun!

WE could go to Miami. That would be fun.
Quoting nigel20:

Whats up Baha...was the cause of the damage determined?
Haven't heard anything yet... there'll prolly be something about it on tomorrow morning's news.
1633. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:
OK Fellow Bloggers, time to call it a night. Stay Safe and any of you up in the N.E. take it easy on those roads that may have ice on them.
Have a Good Night All.

Same to you pedley
Anyway, I gotta go... work tomorrow :o( plus a couple of extra mtgs....

Sleep tight ya'll...
1635. nigel20
Quoting BahaHurican:
Haven't heard anything yet... there'll prolly be something about it on tomorrow morning's news.

OK, it will be interesting hear what was the cause of the damage
Quoting BahaHurican:
We could go to a hurricane zone.

Oh wait... I could just stay home... no fun!

WE could go to Miami. That would be fun.


We could go to Grothar's house. His mansion could hold all of us.
1637. nigel20
I'm off to bed as well...good night all!
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


We could go to Grothar's house. His mansion could hold all of us.
But that is just fort lauderdale. I go there all the time. Even WPB would be more new sites....
1640. pmagn
Brilliant site... Some feedback...

-Move the right col menu higher so appears on initial screen of page.

-Add global temp plot next to co2 plot over 800000yr time line in evidence section.

- for me day min anomaly data for uk ( http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/ ) was one set that particularly alerted me to the magnitude of the warming when I first looked at the problem. I think you should include this in the section. 

-page which describes and links to all major climate research sites with original data sets like Nassau, NOAA, uk met etc.

-there is new south African research which is back dating the effect of human generated co2 on the global temp and modeling this. It would be good to incorporate this in your local weather so it shows the anomalies with and with out the extra heat....
1642. LargoFl
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC
1045 PM EDT SUN APR 22 2012

GAZ010-017-018-026-028-029-NCZ035>037-056-057-068 >072-082-502-504-
506>510-SCZ001>014-019-240245-
RABUN-HABERSHAM-STEPHENS-FRANKLIN-HART-ELBERT-ALE XANDER-IREDELL-
DAVIE-CATAWBA-ROWAN-CLEVELAND-LINCOLN-GASTON-MECK LENBURG-CABARRUS-
UNION NC-GREATER CALDWELL-GREATER BURKE-EASTERN MCDOWELL-
RUTHERFORD MOUNTAINS-GREATER RUTHERFORD-POLK MOUNTAINS-EASTERN POLK-
OCONEE MOUNTAINS-PICKENS MOUNTAINS-GREENVILLE MOUNTAINS-
GREATER OCONEE-GREATER PICKENS-GREATER GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG-
CHEROKEE-YORK-ANDERSON-ABBEVILLE-LAURENS-UNION SC-CHESTER-GREENWOOD-
1045 PM EDT SUN APR 22 2012

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR NORTHEAST GEORGIA...PIEDMONT
NORTH CAROLINA...WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND UPSTATE SOUTH CAROLINA.

.DAY ONE...TONIGHT.

NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS OVER THE REGION...STRONG AND GUSTY
WINDS ARE EXPECTED ON MONDAY...POSSIBLY GUSTING AS HIGH AS 35 MPH
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE AREA. TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY DROP INTO
THE MID 30S TO LOW 30S EARLY TUESDAY MORNING. AREAS OF FROST ARE
POSSIBLE IF WINDS BECOME LIGHT ENOUGH OVERNIGHT.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

NONE.

$$
1643. LargoFl
Quoting BahaHurican:
We could go to a hurricane zone.

Oh wait... I could just stay home... no fun!

WE could go to Miami. That would be fun.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


We could go to Grothar's house. His mansion could hold all of us.

We dont have the $200 million yet! Lets start a hurricane center and compete with the NHC!
Quoting bappit:
Someone posted this a couple days ago. Current version tells about the same story. Looks like the ridge out west will be setting up shop.



I can't wait for the warm weather to return, Highs in the mid 50's and lows in the mid 30's is tough for an ole man, here in Indiana.
Forecast says it's this way for the next 7 days.
Plug this model in I'm ready!
38 degrees tomorrow night for me here in FL. Wow. Might have to build a fire.
Quoting bappit:

I like the idea of not issuing tornado warnings for short-lived vortexes. Call it a severe thunderstorm. The tornado is gone before the warning is issued. (Saw that in the interview posted on here of a TV met from Alabama. I strongly suspect this idea is not new.

I don't think it's a new idea, but I'd be fairly confident it would turn into a political hot potato with the NWS and even if it is the best course of action that would bring back confidence in the tornado warnings, I have a hard time seeing it done. This might be different from my personal opinion on whether or not it should be done...
For better or worse, sometimes you only have to miss one tornado to get yourself in hot water with your EMs/citizens. We've had a few recent examples of missed brief tornadoes... Harveyville, KS, Creston, IA, Henrick, IA.
Looks like about a slushy inch around the Rochester, NY area. Based on the radar, i would say that the rain/snow band is going to pivot somewhere just east of buffalo, leaving little additional snow for the eastern portion of the current winter storm warning counties- including Monroe county where Rochester is.

A strange and cryptic weather forecast that made no sense at the time this was posted here on April 5th, but her eyes and song told the story of where a late Christmas was coming.

Last year, on Jan. 4th(Post 11,) another song by this same artist, who has sadly now passed, would be used to forecast another kind of spring; what would later be called the "Arab spring," and the fall of a modern day Pharaoh in Egypt.

Post 765. OracleDeAtlantis 7:01 AM GMT on April 05, 2012



1652. Guysgal
Unhappy harbinger of AGW Link
1653. NEFL
Funny we dont see StormTracker on here this morning. I wonder why? Maybe because of all the hype, doom and gloom he spoon fed everyone for a week didnt pan out. I wonder if his rain gauge got 6" like he predicted. I see the HPC was right on with 1-3". It was a bust event, from a model standpoint for FL, and hence the problem with hyping models. Mother Nature is smarter than us. Poof!
1654. LargoFl
Good Morning everyone!..beautiful day here, not a cloud in sight and sunny at 69 degree's...wind tho is getting gusty at times, still taking down the dead pieces of limbs from the trees but all in all a beautiful day here in sunny Florida..have a great day!
1655. LargoFl
1656. LargoFl
Good Morning. The Gulf low was essentially a non-event for the Big Bend region of Florida (me) due to the trajectory right over us. As we often see with lows (whether tropical or extra-tropical) the worst weather is usually well distanced and displaced from the center of circulation. As such, while many parts of North Florida really needed the rain, the rain forecast did not pan out because the "center" of the low remained very dry and many of the parts it traversed across North Florida received little in the way of rain. While all I got, North of Tallahassee, was some brief rain and a few small showers/gusts and one or two thunderclaps on Saturday afternoon, I will remember the Low. My Wife called me around 2:00 PM on Sat afternoon (I was not home) to advised that the "one" thunderclap hit near the house..........The resulting electrical surge (in spite of having a surge protector) took out our TV, Cable Box, and Computer modem. Off to Comcast later today to switch out the Cable Box, modem in transit by UPS, and, have to go out and buy a new TV this week..............Ouch..... :)
Quoting NEFL:
Funny we dont see StormTracker on here this morning. I wonder why? Maybe because of all the hype, doom and gloom he spoon fed everyone for a week didnt pan out. I wonder if his rain gauge got 6" like he predicted. I see the HPC was right on with 1-3". It was a bust event, from a model standpoint for FL, and hence the problem with hyping models. Mother Nature is smarter than us. Poof!

He is either in school, or crying into his cereal that his hype didn't pan out (like usual).
It was a cool windy morning but I am glad we got much needed rain.
Looks like most of the snow reports have been in the 3-6 inch range stretching from West Virginia to Buffalo.  Have one 6 inch report in New York where they could see another easy 3-6.  Going to be hard for snow to accumulate with April sun angle + ground temps above freezing, while air temperatures are at or just above freezing as well.  It's going to take some heavy hourly snowfall rates to out run those factors acting against significant accumulation. 

Snowfall Totals
NEW YORK

...ALLEGANY COUNTY...
ALFRED 6.0 700 AM 4/23 CO-OP OBSERVER
5 SW WEST ALMOND 4.6 830 AM 4/23 COCORAHS
WHITESVILLE 3.4 748 AM 4/23 CO-OP OBSERVER
1 S WELLSVILLE 0.5 600 AM 4/23 CO-OP OBSERVER

further was great at wanne music festival live oak florida some rain nothing too bad except for mules set which lasted 20 minutes or so before they pulled the plug. a piece from further. beautiful sunshine for this tune ripple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYiNpFTmIyo&feature =endscreen
Quoting RitaEvac:
Japanese boy's soccer ball lost in tsunami found in Alaska


5,100 miles away.



This summer will bring some interesting finds on the beach in the Pacific NW.
XX/XX/XX
1659. washingtonian115

It was a cool windy morning but I am glad we got much needed rain.


I actually had snow mixed in with the rain around 9:15 this morning, just outside of Fairfax.
OLD BLOG
1667. nigel20
Good morning all

April 23, 2012 SST Anomaly
Quoting Patrap:
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!



A picture of Electra and Tornado

It was a evening like any other evening. Tornado had just gotten up after a full day of rest and daytime heating. After eating a bowl of instant Instability and Moisture and swallowing a glass of cool refreshing Dry Air, Tornado got ready for the night.

He mosied on down to a popular (and noisy) little night spot called "The Ground". The usual suspects were there. Over at the bar was Hail Core, giving everyone the cold shoulder. In the corner was Torrential Downpour, always crying into his drink. Cumula Nimbus, always the large matronly and rowdy barkeep, was serving her drinks to the patrons. And of course, Wall Cloud and Straightline Winds were tangling it up on the dance floor.

"Hey Tornado! What'll ya have?" Cumula Nimbus hollered over the noise.

"Give me a Flying Farmyard and a Twisted Trailer." Tornado said cheerily as he made his way over the bar. Cumula nodded and started making the drinks while he idly started munching on Earth and Tree mix Cumula kept on the bar.

As Cumula served the drinks, she said "Hey, that new girl over there has been eyeing you."

Tornado turned and saw a sultry lightning bolt gazing at him. She had curves all over, and he could feel the static from across the room. She had a wild and chaotic air about her, which he found intoxicating.

"I here she can fork like nobody's business too," Cumula said with a knowing wink.

"I think I'll go talk to her," Tornado said to a smiling Cumula, and strutted on over.

"I couldn't help but notice you looking at me. What's your name?" Tornado asked.

"Electra. Electra Cution." She said, idly nibbling on a radio tower antenna, "Why don't you take me for a spin big guy!".

It was magic. Soon after, they got married. And, not surprisingly, it wasn't long before Electra and Tornado gave birth to a batch of bouncing baby Ball Lightnings. They were happy, but as often happens, it wasn't long before hard times fell.

The Cold Front, the trusted and reliable company that employed everyone in the area, was pulling up stakes. Rumor had it that there was a lot of high pressure forcing Cold Front to outsource overseas. The Jet-Stream that once roared with life was becoming an empty road. It was getting harder and harder to find a place where a guy like Tornado could put his feet down and do some honest work. Even "The Ground" was becoming vacant, with only Cumula and Downpour being regulars there.

Tornado fell into depression and started drinking. First it was just occasional, a pond here, a lake there. Then it became frequent. He became just a shadow of what he formerly was. He drank so much that he got the nickname "Waterspout".

Electra, too, suffered. After she lost her job, she had let herself go. Her once sleek form now curving and arcing way more than it used to. She barely ever leaves the house now, addicted to Storm Chaser videos showing Wedge Tornadoes.

Of course, once they had both lost their jobs they couldn't care for their children, so Storm Services put them up for adoption. The kids are doing well, though they are scattered across the Midwest (one apparently went on to study abroad in England last year).

Eventually both Tornado and Electra dissipated, along with Cumula and everyone else who used to frequent "The Ground". Without the Cold Front, it really was only a matter of time before the whole place vanished into blue skies.

And that, my friends, is why I never get good thunderstorms in my area.
Oh Please, haven't we heard enough of this debunked theory of AGW. First we had Michael Mann from Penn State lie to us in the Climategate scandal and now his colleague Richard Alley. These guys are giving science a bad name. I'm sick of all this dishonesty. Time to take my browser to a different website. Goodbye weather underground.
Do you have any shame in continuing to promote the man-made global warming fraud? (of course, you guys began to refer to it as "climate change" a few years ago when the pure, man-made global warming fraud was laughably exposed for the fraud that it is) Guess what everyone, the Earth has been warming for 18,000 years or so, along with changing climate and rising sea level. I bet you people didn't know that, did you? I didn't check out your "skeptics website", or whatever you call it, but I suspect it is run by a group of climate change fraudsters (CCFs); how convenient! No, I don't work for an energy company, or have any stake in this game other than common, scientific sense (if having a PhD, MS, and BS degrees is common). If you want to be concerned about changing climate, that's fine, but don't pretend humans can do anything about it, or worse, try to claim humans are causing it. Do some research other than reading other CCFs publications.