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WInter storm dumps 2 feet of snow on Oklahoma, Arkansas

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:25 PM GMT on February 09, 2011

Yet another major snowstorm in the memorable winter of 2010-2011 has blasted the U.S. with over two feet of snow--this time in northeast Oklahoma and northwest Arkansas. The snow continues to pile up at a rate of an inch per hour across portions of Arkansas today, and snows of 1 - 4 inches are expected today through Thursday across northern Mississippi, northern Alabama, and Tennessee. The heaviest snows have fallen in northeast Oklahoma, with 25 inches reported at Jay. Several locations in northwest Arkansas, including Gravette in Benton County, have recorded 24" of snow. Heavy snows in excess of a foot have been reported in Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Montana, and Wyoming, according the the latest NOAA Storm Summary. Bitterly cold air is pouring in behind the snowstorm; Abieline, Texas set a record low for the date of 9°F this morning, and the temperature is expected to plunge to 5°F tonight in the city. Abilene's coldest February temperature of all time was -7°F, set February 2, 1985.


Figure 1. Record snows piling up in northwest Arkansas on February 9, 2011. Image credit: wunderphotographer breezyky26.

Snowiest month and year in Tulsa's history
The 5.7 inches of snow that has fallen in Tulsa, Oklahoma as of noon today has brought that city its snowiest month on record, according to the National Weather Service. Thanks to the great February 1 blizzard and today's snowstorm, Tulsa has recorded 22.5" of snow this month. The previous record snowiest month was March 1924, when 19.7" fell. Today's snow brought the total for the 2010 - 2011 season to 26.1", a new record. The previous record was the 25.6" that fell in the winter of 1923 - 1924. Oklahoma City received 5.9" of snow from today's storm, bringing their seasonal total to 19.6", still well shy of their all-time record of 25.2", set in 1947 - 1948.


Figure 2. Snowfall amounts in Western Oklahoma and Northwest Arkansas from the snowstorm of Feb 8 - 9, 2011, reached two feet (24 inches) in isolated regions. Image credit: National Weather Service, Tulsa.

Jeff Masters
Snowstorm Feb 8 2009
Snowstorm Feb 8 2009
Taken thru my kitchen door window. This house is 100 ft across the road.

Winter Weather

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Reader Comments

Amazing snow totals Dr. Masters!
Still want to know who Steven Goddard is. No record of such a scientist anywhere. Is he an imaginary person?
Heavy snows in excess of a foot have been reported in Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Montana, and Wyoming, according the the latest NOAA Storm Summary.

Texas too!
Just asked a question atmoaggie. You don't need to feel so threatened and defensive. I see these people cite Steven Goddard, and looked to see what I could find out about him. Doesn't seem to exist.

Do people citing imaginary friends to support their case bother you? Sounds like it's people who reveal the truth who threaten you, atmoaggie.
Quoting jwh250:
Maybe we can tax the oceans?
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/oceanography -book/carboncycle.htm


That link is actually my old oceanography prof and his textbook for the physical oceanography course, though a more recent edition than the one we used then.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Just asked a question atmoaggie. You don't need to feel so threatened and defensive. I see these people cite Steven Goddard, and looked to see what I could find out about him. Doesn't seem to exist.

Do people citing imaginary friends to support their case bother you? Sounds like it's people who reveal the truth who threaten you, atmoaggie.
? What's with the touchy-feely comments? If you're threatening, then I should report you, or something.

But, so far, haven't actually felt threatened by any anonymous people in a weather blog in quite some time.

Do you feel threatened?
Yeah, the Tulsa-ites are loving this.
;-)

Quoting weatherboy1992:
Still want to know who Steven Goddard is. No record of such a scientist anywhere. Is he an imaginary person?

He appears to be a figment of someone's overheated imagination, a pen name, a character created by denialists to lend an aura of credibility to their mostly non-credible claims. But he has never shown his face or made a public appearance, perhaps because to do so would show that he's got as much substance as Harvey the Rabbit, and as much cred as Milli Vanilli.

Personally, I think they should have named him "Godot". ;-)


Moderate Tropical Storm 05R
going to nyc feb18-24,any ideaf what the wx pattern over the ne is forecast to be???
Is is just me or are Blizzards becoming more frequent?
Quoting stillwaiting:
going to nyc feb18-24,any ideaf what the wx pattern over the ne is forecast to be???


Indications that a big warmup may be in the offing for the central and east,but who knows that far out,maybe the last half of Feb will be above normal.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
atmoaggie, you're a fanatical denier. I pointed out that Steven Goddard is not real. You get all prissy about it.

I didn't post stuff from an imaginary friend. Deniers did. I pointed out 'Steve Goddard' is imaginary. And you get all bent out of shape--not because deniers are posting citing an imaginary friend, but because I pointed out he is imaginary?

Clearly your denialism is so fanatical that you cannot tolerate any criticism of others on your side.

You can't make any argument on the merits so you lash out and attack me. You have nothing else to say.
?

I said:
Quoting atmoaggie:
Maybe he's just a weather/climate blogger like you?

And you're really doing great, here, for just joining. Though, you sound a lot like someone that used to be here...including reusing all of his, umm, usual statements.

Bent out of shape? Really, maybe he is just another weather/climate blogger...
Attack? Not hardly.

What's up with people today? Seems like a lot of utter failures at attempting to read between the lines around here. Or something.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Just asked a question atmoaggie. You don't need to feel so threatened and defensive. I see these people cite Steven Goddard, and looked to see what I could find out about him. Doesn't seem to exist.

Do people citing imaginary friends to support their case bother you? Sounds like it's people who reveal the truth who threaten you, atmoaggie.

Steve Goddard is the king of cherry picking, an example Link

Quoting weatherboy1992:
I see these people cite Steven Goddard, and looked to see what I could find out about him. Doesn't seem to exist.

Wouldn't surprise me if Goddard is Anthony WUWT Watts!
Holy Snow Batman! The year of the snow!
Quoting weatherboy1992:
atmoaggie, you're a fanatical denier. I pointed out that Steven Goddard is not real. You get all prissy about it.

I didn't post stuff from an imaginary friend. Deniers did. I pointed out 'Steve Goddard' is imaginary. And you get all bent out of shape--not because deniers are posting citing an imaginary friend, but because I pointed out he is imaginary?

Clearly your denialism is so fanatical that you cannot tolerate any criticism of others on your side.

You can't make any argument on the merits so you lash out and attack me. You have nothing else to say.


Steven Goddard is real, he's a writer for The Register... you are the one coming in here making crazy claims that can not be backed up...
Problem solved hes a total hack - a reporter completely unqualified. look at his work

Mr. Goddard does his own analysis, based on images from the University of Illinois


LOL - so he measured form a photograph with a magnifying glass or something!! Hoot.
You know, I just did a word search and I didn't find words such as "climate" or "warming" anywhere in the entry. Just sayin'... Anyway, some of the heavier snows appear to be shifting further south according to the most recent SPC Mesoscale Discussion:



MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0102
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0303 PM CST WED FEB 09 2011

AREAS AFFECTED...NERN LA...ERN AR...CNTRL/NRN MS...SWRN TN...NWRN AL

CONCERNING...HEAVY SNOW

VALID 092103Z - 100130Z

SNOW WILL CONTINUE SHIFTING EWD ACROSS THE ARKLAMISS REGION AND
MID-SOUTH THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON INTO EARLY EVENING...WITH RATES OF
1 INCH PER HOUR EXPECTED.

MOIST ISENTROPIC ASCENT ATOP AN ARCTIC AIR MASS ADVANCING INTO THE
LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE EWD SHIFT OF
PRECIPITATION INTO THIS EVENING. PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE FROM RAIN
TO SNOW ACROSS SERN PORTIONS OF THE DISCUSSION AREA AS WET-BULB
SURFACE TEMPERATURE READINGS FALL AOB FREEZING...WITH THE RAIN-SNOW
LINE LIKELY EXTENDING FROM 35 SW HSV TO 30 ENE JAN TO 35 ESE MLU BY
00Z PER THE 18Z RUN OF THE EXPERIMENTAL HRRR. SNOWFALL RATES ARE
EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY TO 1 INCH PER HOUR...AS AN AXIS OF DEEPER
MOISTURE TRAVERSES THE AREA. THE HIGHEST SNOWFALL RATES WILL BE MOST
LIKELY ALONG AND SOUTH OF THE HIGHWAY 82 CORRIDOR...WHERE THE NAM
MODEL INDICATES 800-700-MB FRONTOGENESIS INCREASING AFTER 00Z IN
CONJUNCTION WITH INCREASING SLANTWISE INSTABILITY AND PWAT VALUES OF
0.70 TO 0.80 INCH.

..COHEN/BROYLES.. 02/09/2011


ATTN...WFO...OHX...BMX...HUN...MEG...JAN...LZK...

LAT...LON 34748708 33028851 32179089 32689161 34129099 35378933
35518786 34748708

Arctic Ice melt media misinformation retracted

I hope you were not using that story.
interesting reading about our changing atmosphere - 'A connection between global warming and synoptic meteorology' by Stu Ostro, Senior meteorologist, The Weather Channel! Link
We discuss more than "Texas" weather in this entry..
Every day.

As the storm continues to move east, Winter Storm Warnings have been issued for eastern North Carolina:

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
253 PM EST WED FEB 9 2011

...A SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL IS POSSIBLE ACROSS ALL OF EASTERN NORTH
CAROLINA TONIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING...


.WEAK LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OFF THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST
TONIGHT AND CIRCULATE MOISTURE INTO A MARGINALLY COLD AIR MASS
OVER EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA. THIS WILL LEAD TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF
SNOW...POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES...LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY THURSDAY
MORNING. THE PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY TO START AS RAIN...OR A MIX
OF RAIN AND SNOW WELL INLAND...THEN GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO SNOW
LATE TONIGHT. COASTAL AREAS WILL LIKELY NOT SEE A TRANSITION TO
SNOW UNTIL DAYBREAK THURSDAY. THE HEAVIEST SNOWS WILL COINCIDE
WITH THE THURSDAY MORNING RUSH HOUR CREATING DANGEROUS DRIVING
CONDITIONS ACROSS THE AREA. THE SNOW IS EXPECTED TO END BY
THURSDAY AFTERNOON.

NCZ029-044>047-079>081-090>095-098-103-104-100400 -
/O.CON.KMHX.WS.W.0003.110210T0300Z-110210T1600Z/
MARTIN-PITT-WASHINGTON-TYRRELL-MAINLAND DARE-GREENE-BEAUFORT-
MAINLAND HYDE-DUPLIN-LENOIR-JONES-CRAVEN-PAMLICO-CARTERET-O NSLOW-
OUTER BANKS DARE-OUTER BANKS HYDE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILLIAMSTON...ROBERSONVILLE...
GREENVILLE...PLYMOUTH...COLUMBIA...SNOW HILL...HOOKERTON...
WASHINGTON...RIVER ROAD...WALLACE...WARSAW...ROSE HILL...
KENANSVILLE...BEULAVILLE...MAGNOLIA...KINSTON...M AYSVILLE...
POLLOCKSVILLE...TRENTON...NEW BERN...HAVELOCK...VANCEBORO...
ORIENTAL...ALLIANCE...BAYBORO...ARAPAHOE...MINNES OTT BEACH...
VANDEMERE...STONEWALL...MOREHEAD CITY...BEAUFORT...EMERALD ISLE...
NEWPORT...JACKSONVILLE...KILL DEVIL HILLS...KITTY HAWK...
NAGS HEAD...SOUTHERN SHORES
253 PM EST WED FEB 9 2011

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING
TO 11 AM EST THURSDAY...

A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING
TO 11 AM EST THURSDAY.

* ACCUMULATION: ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES ARE EXPECTED FROM
GREENE COUNTY NORTH AND EAST TO FAR NORTHERN DARE COUNTY. SOUTH
OF THIS LINE 1 TO 2 INCHES IS EXPECTED WITH A DUSTING TO 1 INCH
ALONG THE COAST SOUTH OF OREGON INLET. LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS
OF 5 INCHES OR MORE WILL BE POSSIBLE IN HEAVIER BANDS...
MAINLY NEAR THE ALBEMARLE SOUND.

* TIMING: THE PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST TO BEGIN BEFORE MIDNIGHT
TONIGHT AND END LATE THURSDAY MORNING OR EARLY AFTERNOON. THE
HEAVIEST SNOWS ARE FORECAST TO OCCUR FROM 4 AM TO 10 AM
THURSDAY.

* IMPACTS: THE HEAVIEST SNOWS WILL COINCIDE WITH THE THURSDAY
MORNING RUSH HOUR PRODUCING DANGEROUS CONDITIONS FOR THOSE
PLANNING ANY TRAVEL.

* VISIBILITIES: VISIBILITIES WILL DROP TO ONE QUARTER TO ONE
HALF OF A MILE AT TIMES IN THE HEAVIEST SNOW BANDS.

* TEMPERATURES: TEMPERATURES WILL DROP SLIGHTLY BELOW FREEZING
LATE TONIGHT BUT ARE EXPECTED TO RISE ABOVE FREEZING THURSDAY
AFTERNOON.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
SNOW ARE FORECAST THAT WILL MAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS.

&&

$$
could be a snowstorm along the eastcoast sunday/monday feb20/21????,hope it happens!
Some fairly good Isotropic Lift is occuring as warm air rides up the Theta-E surfaces in Louisiana and Mississippi.



Quoting stillwaiting:
could be a snowstorm sunday/monday feb20/21????,hope it happens!

Where would that be? I haven't looked at any of the more recent solutions yet.
What happens to the snow ammounts possible for N GA if the Low does not weaken? ( I know thay go up, but i would like a number plz)
"The memorable winter of 2010-2011".Sorry Doc.But I'll forget about this winter as soon as it's over.No harsh feelings for those who were affected greatly.
Quoting Speeky:
Is is just me or are Blizzards becoming more frequent?


In a dominantly negative AO winter placing the baroclinic zone over or south of the greatest population density, you bet.
Quoting jwh250:
Click for Galveston, Texas Forecast

Sweet! I actually had a few flakes here earlier today, after a bit of freezing rain. Not really enough of anything to cause much of an impact here though, except for maybe the cold itself.
'Steven Goddard' is probably a team of PR flunkies working for Exxon-Mobil or something like that. Since he doesn't post under his real name we can be sure that whoever is behind 'Steven Goddard' does not want us knowing who it is or who is behind it.
I've also read that blizzard has been redefined to be less rigorous than it used to be. The Feb 1978 New England snowstorm was called a 'near blizzard' at the time because it did not meet blizzard criteria then.
Spring will be coming early this year.And no not becuase that usless groundhog said so.The trees outside are already sprouting buds.The trees back in August/September were turning colors early,and look winter came early.
Quoting NEwxguy:


Indications that a big warmup may be in the offing for the central and east,but who knows that far out,maybe the last half of Feb will be above normal.



It's Global Warming at it's most evil existence!!
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not." -Neil deGrasse Tyson
Quoting Patrap:
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not." -Neil deGrasse Tyson

"The laws of physics are real, everything else is politics!" - Neil deGrasse Tyson
Fabulous weather here in the DFW, TX area :D

We only picked up 0.3 inches of snow, sleet and freezing rain this time around. We are in the middle 20's with wind chills around 10F.

This morning temps dropped to 16F with a wind chill of -4F.

Tonight will drop to 11-15F, with diminishing winds and warm up to 35-40F area wide tomorrow.

By Sunday, sunny with a high near 68F :D
Quoting Bordonaro:
Fabulous weather here in the DFW, TX area :D

We only picked up 0.3 inches of snow, sleet and freezing rain this time around. We are in the middle 20's with wind chills around 10F.

This morning temps dropped to 16F with a wind chill of -4F.

Tonight will drop to 11-15F, with diminishing winds and warm up to 35-40F area wide tomorrow.

By Sunday, sunny with a high near 68F :D

I wouldn't be surprised if those numbers for later this weekend and next week get upward adjustments due to convergence aloft and downslope flow like what happened last Sunday!
Quoting weatherboy1992:
'Steven Goddard' is probably a team of PR flunkies working for Exxon-Mobil or something like that. Since he doesn't post under his real name we can be sure that whoever is behind 'Steven Goddard' does not want us knowing who it is or who is behind it.



I believe he uses a different pen name when he writes. Not sure, but this could be a picture of him.

Quoting 1900hurricane:

I wouldn't be surprised if those numbers for later this weekend and next week get upward adjustments due to convergence aloft and downslope flow like what happened last Sunday!

I will take it :O)
Did you all actually read any of the Goddard items you reference from early 2010 and 2008? Just sayin, here is the original you reference in your old blog write ups. You guys must really like re-runs. LOL :)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/15/goddard_a rctic_ice_mystery/

Steven Goddard writes: "Dr. Walt Meier at NSIDC has convinced me this week that their ice extent numbers are solid. So why the large discrepancy between their graphs and the UIUC maps? I went back and compared UIUC maps vs. NASA satellite photos from the same dates last summer. It turns out that the older UIUC maps had underrepresented the amount of low concentration ice in several regions of the Arctic. This summer, their maps do not have that same error. As a result, UIUC maps show a much greater increase in the amount of ice this year than does NSIDC. And thus the explanation of the discrepancy.

"it is clear that the NSIDC graph is correct, and that 2008 Arctic ice is barely 10% above last year - just as NSIDC had stated."

Quoting jwh250:
Click for Galveston, Texas Forecast

I actually just talked to a friend on the island and she said that it was not snowing, although she is a good deal east of the recording site.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Spring will be coming early this year.And no not becuase that usless groundhog said so.The trees outside are already sprouting buds.The trees back in August/September were turning colors early,and look winter came early.
we will get some teases following warm up next week its only the first then of coarse a cool down but each warm up will get stronger and further north as each cool down will be a little less cool and not drop down as far south remember no matter what winter got left its gone in about 39 days then spring takes over
indications show a nice warming coming for texas and points ne

Seems like we need to post the full text of the link Patrap gave us.

The Register reporter Steve Goddard is admitting today that his article last week on melting Arctic Sea Ice (Arctic ice refuses to melt as ordered) is incorrect.

Too bad the damage has already been done.

In his article, Goddard claimed that National Snow and Ice Data Center plot of Arctic Sea Ice Extent was wrong and that,

"The Arctic did not experience the meltdowns forecast by NSIDC and the Norwegian Polar Year Secretariat. It didn't even come close. Additionally, some current graphs and press releases from NSIDC seem less than conservative. There appears to be a consistent pattern of overstatement related to Arctic ice loss."

Today, Goddard is retracting the claim:

"... it is clear that the NSIDC graph is correct, and that 2008 Arctic ice is barely 10% above last year - just as NSIDC had stated."

But as Joe Romm at ClimateProgress points out it may be too little too late. Goddard's article has already caught fire in the climate denier-sphere with over 70 references to the story according to blog search engine Technorati, with titles like:

* Arctic Ice Grows 30 Per Cent In a Year
* The Global Warming Theory takes a hit
* Fishy Data From the Government
* Here’s another installment about the silliness of “global warming” as posited by politicians and “environmentalists”.
* Cooking the Books to Cook the Ice
* Global Warming is about global government and depopulation

Unless Goddard, or intrepid DeSmog readers, have the time to go out and urge bloggers to correct this latest misinformation, it will be popping up as yet another false piece of information on the true state of our planet and the realities of global warming for some time to come. And as the old adage goes , "If you repeat something long enough it eventually becomes true."



I like that one headline:

Global Warming is about global government and depopulation
Honestly, I'm not sure how you get from absorption spectra of gases and the growing concentration of one compound in particular (CO2) to global government and depopulation.
There is a leap of delusion there that escapes me.
Quoting jwh250:



.
Afternoon everybody.... so based on that GFS map, KOTG, we should get another wave across the SE FL peninsula and Northern Bahamas by Saturday???

It's been remarkably warm today... mostly just used my jacket in a couple of cool, windy pockets this morning. I'm ready for a moderate warm-up, and it looks like we'll get one here for much of Feb....
From Wikipedia:

JWH-250 was discovered by, and named after the researcher Dr. John W. Huffman. He created JWH-250 and a number of other compounds to research the structure and function of the endocannabinoid system of mammals. Samples of JWH-250 were first identified in May 2009 by the German Federal Criminal Police, as an ingredient in new generation "herbal smoking blends" which had been released since the banning of the original ingredients (C8)-CP 47,497 and JWH-018.[5]

So the question might be, "What have they been smoking?"
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Did ya see the date? 25 August 08
The Psychology of Climate Change Denial

* By Brandon Keim Email Author
* December 9, 2009



Even as the science of global warming gets stronger, fewer Americans believe it’s real. In some ways, it’s nearly as jarring a disconnect as enduring disbelief in evolution or carbon dating. And according to Kari Marie Norgaard, a Whitman College sociologist who’s studied public attitudes towards climate science, we’re in denial.

“Our response to disturbing information is very complex. We negotiate it. We don’t just take it in and respond in a rational way,” said Norgaard.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change declared in 2007 that greenhouse gases had reached levels not seen in 650,000 years, and were rising rapidly as a result of people burning fossil fuel. Because these gases trap the sun’s heat, they would — depending on human energy habits — heat Earth by an average of between 1.5 and 7.2 degrees Fahrenheit by century’s end. Even a midrange rise would likely disrupt the planet’s climate, producing droughts and floods, acidified oceans, altered ecosystems and coastal cities drowned by rising seas.

“If there’s no action before 2012, that’s too late. What we do in the next two to three years will determine our future,” said Rajendra Pachauri, the IPCC chairman, when the report was released. “This is the defining moment.”

Studies published since then have only strengthened the IPCC’s predictions, or suggested they underestimate future warming. But as world leaders gather in Copenhagen to discuss how to avoid catastrophic climate change, barely half the U.S. public thinks carbon pollution could warm Earth. That’s 20 percent less than in 2007, and lower than at any point in the last 12 years. In a Pew Research Center poll, Americans ranked climate dead last out of 20 top issues, behind immigration and trade policy.

Wired.com talked to Norgaard about the divide between science and public opinion.

Wired.com: Why don’t people seem to care?

Kari Norgaard: On the one hand, there have been extremely well-organized, well-funded climate-skeptic campaigns. Those are backed by Exxon Mobil in particular, and the same PR firms who helped the tobacco industry (.pdf) deny the link between cancer and smoking are involved with magnifying doubt around climate change.

That’s extremely important, but my work has been in a different area. It’s been about people who believe in science, who aren’t out to question whether science has a place in society.

Wired.com: People who are coming at the issue in good faith, you mean. What’s their response?

Norgaard: Climate change is disturbing. It’s something we don’t want to think about. So what we do in our everyday lives is create a world where it’s not there, and keep it distant.

For relatively privileged people like myself, we don’t have to see the impact in everyday life. I can read about different flood regimes in Bangladesh, or people in the Maldives losing their islands to sea level rise, or highways in Alaska that are altered as permafrost changes. But that’s not my life. We have a vast capacity for this.

Wired.com: How is this bubble maintained?

Norgaard: In order to have a positive sense of self-identity and get through the day, we’re constantly being selective of what we think about and pay attention to. To create a sense of a good, safe world for ourselves, we screen out all kinds of information, from where food comes from to how our clothes our made. When we talk with our friends, we talk about something pleasant.

Wired.com: How does this translate into skepticism about climate change?

Norgaard: It’s a paradox. Awareness has increased. There’s been a lot more information available. This is much more in our face. And this is where the psychological defense mechanisms are relevant, especially when coupled with the fact that other people, as we’ve lately seen with the e-mail attacks, are systematically trying to create the sense that there’s doubt.

If I don’t want to believe that climate change is true, that my lifestyle and high carbon emissions are causing devastation, then it’s convenient to say that it doesn’t.

Wired.com: Is that what this comes down to — not wanting to confront our own roles?

Norgaard: I think so. And the reason is that we don’t have a clear sense of what we can do. Any community organizer knows that if you want people to respond to something, you need to tell them what to do, and make it seem do-able. Stanford University psychologist Jon Krosnick has studied this, and showed that people stop paying attention to climate change when they realize there’s no easy solution. People judge as serious only those problems for which actions can be taken.

Another factor is that we no longer have a sense of permanence. Another psychologist, Robert Lifton, wrote about what the existence of atomic bombs did to our psyche. There was a sense that the world could end at any moment.

Global warming is the same in that it threatens the survival of our species. Psychologists tell us that it’s very important to have a sense of the continuity of life. That’s why we invest in big monuments and want our work to stand after we die and have our family name go on.

That sense of continuity is being ruptured. But climate change has an added aspect that is very important. The scientists who built nuclear bombs felt guilt about what they did. Now the guilt is real for the broader public.

Wired.com: So we don’t want to believe climate change is happening, feel guilty that it is, and don’t know what to do about it? So we pretend it’s not a problem?

Norgaard: Yes, but I don’t want to make it seem crass. Sometimes people who are very empathetic are less likely to help in certain situations, because they’re so disturbed by it. The human capacity of empathy is really profound, and that’s part of our weakness. If we were more callous, then we’d approach it in a more straightforward way. It may be a weakness of our capacity as sentient beings to cope with this problem.
62. bappit


LOL
Guess I'll pass on the blog for a while.... only 65 posts and I've already reached saturation pt on the global warming thing....

I'll look in later this evening to see if anything eventuates from that area of disturbed wx near northern QLD....
Interesting interview of Norgaard. Thanks.
A tad dated,,but it reflects a good observation and Im reading more every week in the same vein from others.

Fascinating stuff one could say.

I sent it to the Energy Committee Chairman in the US House.
Quoting bappit:
I like that one headline:

Global Warming is about global government and depopulation

This is very interesting.
Quoting BahaHurican:
Guess I'll pass on the blog for a while.... only 65 posts and I've already reached saturation pt on the global warming thing....

I'll look in later this evening to see if anything eventuates from that area of disturbed wx near northern QLD....

There is nothing to worry about off the coast of N-Qld. Just the monsoon trough, typical for this year.
Quoting bappit:
Interesting interview of Norgaard. Thanks.


Who says Norwegians aren't smart. LOL
Everyone is ignoring little Bingiza.


Quoting Patrap:
A tad dated,,but it reflects a good observation and Im reading more every week in the same vein from others.

Fascinating stuff one could say.

I sent it to the Energy Committee Chairman in the US House.


Paraphased lines from a great old TV show. Sounds like familiar banter on the blog.

1st person, I am not in denial.
2nd person: Yes, you are. You're just denying you're
in denial.
1st person: I am not denying I'm in denial.
2nd person: If you're not denying you're in denial,
then you're in denial.
1st person: Look, here. Why should I deny being
in denial? I never said I was in denial,
YOU are the one who said I was in denial,
and don't you deny it.
Quoting jwh250:
Pentti Linkola: Ideas

Pentti Linkola writes about the apocalyptic climactic changes that will soon effect us here in humanityland, but he doesn't take the easy way out that most authors do. Instead, he chooses to be brutally honest and suggests that we've already missed our chance to curb our damage of the world, so what we must do is to begin the elimination of human and technological excesses now.

Quotations

"What to do, when a ship carrying a hundred passengers suddenly capsizes and there is only one lifeboat? When the lifeboat is full, those who hate life will try to load it with more people and sink the lot. Those who love and respect life will take the ship's axe and sever the extra hands that cling to the sides."

"The composition of the Greens seems to be the same as that of the population in general %u2014 mainly pieces of drifting wood, people who never think."

"A minority can never have any other effective means to influence the course of matters but through the use of violence."

"Any dictatorship would be better than modern democracy. There cannot be so incompetent dictator, that he would show more stupidity than a majority of the people. Best dictatorship would be one where lots of heads would roll and government would prevent any economical growth."

"The most central and irrational faith among people is the faith in technology and economical growth. Its priests believe until their death that material prosperity bring enjoyment and happiness - even though all the proofs in history have shown that only lack and attempt cause a life worth living, that the material prosperity doesn't bring anything else than despair. These priests believe in technology still when they choke in their gas masks."

"That there are billions of people over 60kg weight on this planet is recklessness."

"Alternative movements and groups are a welcome relief and a present for the society of economic growth."

"We will have to...learn from the history of revolutionary movements %u2014 the national socialists, the Finnish Stalinists, from the many stages of the Russian revolution, from the methods of the Red Brigades %u2014 and forget our narcissistic selves."

"Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed."

"A fundamental, devastating error is to set up a political system based on desire. Society and life are been organized on basis of what an individual wants, not on what is good for him or her...Just as only one out of 100,000 has the talent to be an engineer or an acrobat, only a few are those truly capable of managing the matters of a nation or mankind as a whole...In this time and this part of the World we are headlessly hanging on democracy and parliamentary system, even though these are the most mindless and desperate experiments of the mankind...In democratic coutries the destruction of nature and sum of ecological disasters has accumulated most...Our only hope lies in strong central government and uncompromizing control of the individual citizen."

"If the present amount of Earths population is preserved and is reduced only by the means of birth control, then:
- Birthgiving must be licenced. To enhance population quality, genetically or socially unfit homes will be denied offspring, so that several birth licences can be allowed to families of quality.
- Energy production must be drastically reduced. Electricity is allowed only for the most necessary lighting and communications.
- Food: Hunting must be made more efficient. Human diet will include rats and invertebrate animals. Agriculture moves to small un-mechanized units. All human manure is used as fertilizer.
- Traffic is mostly done with bicycles and rowing boats. Private cars are confiscated. Long-distance travel is done with sparse mass transport. Trees will be planted on most roads.
- Foreign affairs: All mass immigration and most of import-export trade must stop. Cross-border travel is allowed only for small numbers of diplomats and correspondents.
- Business will mostly end. Manufacture is allowed only for well argumented needs. All major manufacturing capacity is state owned. Products will be durable and last for generations.
- Science and schooling: Education will concentrate on practical skills. All competition is rooted out. Technological research is reduced to extreme minimum. But every child will learn how to clean a fish in a way that only the big shiny bones are left over."
Impact

Linkola is one of the few voices who advocates:

1) No immigration
2) Downsize population
3) Kill defectives
4) Stop rampant technology

In the eyes of the most credible sources, planet Earth can sustain a half-billion humans without any sizable destruction of our habitat, or any loss in species or stability of our ecosystem. Any numbers higher than that, no matter how much they recycle, will cause environmental chaos. The modern leftist-tinged environmental movement is terrified of telling anyone that they cannot breed and keep buying whatever strikes their fancy, but someone must do this in the future. The sooner we do it, the fewer people in the future will be left without a means of sustenance and thus require termination.

As Linkola himself has said, "We still have a chance to be cruel. But if we are not cruel today, all is lost."


What the hell, that guy is insane...

People like him, back up that Global Warming activists are often irrational nut-cases. Although, most of you who back the GW theory aren't nut-cases like him, most you are normal, you just believe ideas made by nut-cases like him:)
Quoting Jedkins01:


What the hell, that guy is insane...

People like him, back up that Global Warming activists are often irrational nut-cases. Although, most of you who back the GW theory aren't nut-cases like him, most you are normal, you just believe ideas made by nut-cases like him:)


okay everyone a round of purple kool-aid on me


lol
That warning has been up for eastern NC all day. Went from expecting heavier snow to south/east to North/east. I went from 2-4" to a dusting -1" :(
Quoting Grothar:


Who says Norwegians aren't smart. LOL


Swedes?
Quoting PcolaDan:


Swedes?


:P
Somehow I got a "The Thing" Flashback with Kurt Russell heading up to his Shack with a 5th.
Re: 74 Speaking of DaNile;how 'bout them Egyptians ?
Mostly what bothers me is that the GW folks don't seem to have a plan for what we should be doing short of totally destroying our Western life style and all of us going back to living in caves. If the GW folks would publish a transition path to "clean" "sustainable" "renewable" energy I might buy in. What I see is mostly a group that hates the human race and wishes we would all just kill ourselves and the problem would then go away. Where is the plan to get from A to B without anarchy taking over. I would love to read one.

Nuclear is clean energy and all I hear out of most GW folks is "We have all this nuclear waste already and we don't know what to do with it." Well that's just plain wrong for anyone not too lazy to research the subject for ten minutes and it's certainly a way forward.

Can anyone here point me toward someone with a coherent plan?
Hard to put a reactor into a Renault or Audi last I checked.

But a Flux capacitor in a Delorean is possible .

Ive seen it.


Quoting STXpat:
Re: 74 Speaking of DaNile;how 'bout them Egyptians ?


I see you go with flow! Very good.
Craig's List, for when E-Harmony is just too darn expensive.
Quoting twincomanche:
Mostly what bothers me is that the GW folks don't seem to have a plan for what we should be doing short of totally destroying our Western life style and all of us going back to living in caves. If the GW folks would publish a transition path to "clean" "sustainable" "renewable" energy I might buy in. What I see is mostly a group that hates the human race and wishes we would all just kill ourselves and the problem would then go away. Where is the plan to get from A to B without anarchy taking over. I would love to read one.

Nuclear is clean energy and all I hear out of most GW folks is "We have all this nuclear waste already and we don't know what to do with it." Well that's just plain wrong for anyone not too lazy to research the subject for ten minutes and it's certainly a way forward.

Can anyone here point me toward someone with a coherent plan?


Sorry, I'll keep trying.
Do the toots of horses contain methane like the toots of cows? If so, we're still in trouble;)

Quoting Grothar:


Sorry, I'll keep trying.


That's one plan. One of the more coherent. You didn't address how to stay warm tho.
The kids usually run to the window to stare at the snow.But not this year,because they know just as well as I do that this year has been a let down.
Snuggle a lot?

Those snuggies work well too.



I use this site myself
Quoting twincomanche:
Mostly what bothers me is that the GW folks don't seem to have a plan for what we should be doing short of totally destroying our Western life style and all of us going back to living in caves. If the GW folks would publish a transition path to "clean" "sustainable" "renewable" energy I might buy in. What I see is mostly a group that hates the human race and wishes we would all just kill ourselves and the problem would then go away. Where is the plan to get from A to B without anarchy taking over. I would love to read one.

Nuclear is clean energy and all I hear out of most GW folks is "We have all this nuclear waste already and we don't know what to do with it." Well that's just plain wrong for anyone not too lazy to research the subject for ten minutes and it's certainly a way forward.

Can anyone here point me toward someone with a coherent plan?

AR4 Working Group III Report "Mitigation of Climate Change"


Thnx Gro.But here ;I really step in it.
Is it too many ...king people;or too many people ...king? One of Life's questions.
Quoting twincomanche:
Mostly what bothers me is that the GW folks don't seem to have a plan for what we should be doing short of totally destroying our Western life style and all of us going back to living in caves. If the GW folks would publish a transition path to "clean" "sustainable" "renewable" energy I might buy in. What I see is mostly a group that hates the human race and wishes we would all just kill ourselves and the problem would then go away. Where is the plan to get from A to B without anarchy taking over. I would love to read one.

Nuclear is clean energy and all I hear out of most GW folks is "We have all this nuclear waste already and we don't know what to do with it." Well that's just plain wrong for anyone not too lazy to research the subject for ten minutes and it's certainly a way forward.

Can anyone here point me toward someone with a coherent plan?


Well said !!
Quoting STXpat:
Thnx Gro.But here ;I really step in it.
Is it too many ...king people;or too many people ...king? One of Life's questions.



LOL Family blog, family blog!!!
Quoting AussieStorm:

There is nothing to worry about off the coast of N-Qld. Just the monsoon trough, typical for this year.
Hey, Aussie.

I thought that monsoon trough was responsible for a lot of the tropical wx that develops in the Gulf of Carpenteria.... am I wrong to think so?
Re: 95 Exactamundo !
Quoting misanthrope:

AR4 Working Group III Report "Mitigation of Climate Change"




Interesting. Just started.
"The processes by which technologies are created, developed, deployed and eventually replaced, however, are complex (see Figure TS.6) and no simple
descriptions of these processes exist."

In other words we're not sure how to fix these problems yet.
Here is a test for ya. Look around your house and find something that has not in any way been influenced/created with fossil fuels. Try it.

I thought for sure I had found a carving that would qualify, but it was cut with machinery and the tree was grown with manufactured fertilizer. Still looking.

The problem we have is many of the alternate energy sources have their own issues that have to be dealt with, and are under everyone's radar. Look at hydro and the influence the dams have on the local up/down stream environment.Large scale wind farms and their impact on local climate and they don't work but 25% of the time. Corn to fuel has taken food from some and put it in gas tanks. We simply don't have an acceptable alternate answer that can fulfill the current fossil fuel driven world.

Nuke and natural gas are the only stop gaps that have legs at this point. They too have their issues, but they have the power to substitute for that of which no other alternative has to date.

We need a better way and it will take an enormous effort to find it.

We are not helpless! :)



BTW, keep a wary eye on oil and commodities with respect to events that have already happened.

Fossil Fuels are a Finite resource..and the rush to a Better non Polluting source to Run a Global economy is on.



Our Age of Oil is ending fast.

Hopefully the Age of Reason will conquer the fear involved,,or the Natural course of events to follow are very disturbing if we dont,or fail to react in a timely matter.


War over these resources is inevitable if we dont.



Quoting twincomanche:


Interesting. Just started.
"The processes by which technologies are created, developed, deployed and eventually replaced, however, are complex (see Figure TS.6) and no simple
descriptions of these processes exist."

In other words we're not sure how to fix these problems yet.


No, were are not sure. You know, I joke around quite a bit on the blog, but in my alter-ego, I am a very serious person. I never get involved in the AGW debate. However, if a man walks by me and says the sky is falling, I smile and keep walking. If another person tells me the sky is falling. I start to think. If a third person tells me the sky is falling, I look up. With the media overload, it is very difficult to disseminate truth from fiction. Are there alarmists on both side....yes. One can posts all the graphs and models and articles they want. It means nothing. If you are serious, I will send you a link to get a better understanding of the true problem. I would really be interested in knowing what you think. It is a little long so take your time.

Link
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right"
Quoting Patrap:
Fossil Fuels are a Finite resource..and the rush to a Better non Polluting source to Run a Global economy is on.



Our Age of Oil is ending fast.

Hopefully the Age of Reason will conquer the fear involved,,or the Natural course of events to follow are very disturbing if we dont,or fail to react in a timely matter.


War over these resources is inevitable if we dont.





Our children's children will not see the end of the petroleum age. It will just only be used for plastics and such, not used for fuel to get from A to B. Coal, Nuclear, and natural gas will provide the bridge if the dumb asses will get out of the way. Truly clean technology has not been invented yet.
Quoting jrweatherman:
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right"


And here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
Quoting Grothar:


No, were are not sure. You know, I joke around quite a bit on the blog, but in my alter-ego, I am a very serious person. I never get involved in the AGW debate. However, if a man walks by me and says the sky is falling, I smile and keep walking. If another person tells me the sky is falling. I start to think. If a third person tells me the sky is falling, I look up. With the media overload, it is very difficult to disseminate truth from fiction. Are there alarmists on both side....yes. One can posts all the graphs and models and articles they want. It means nothing. If you are serious, I will send you a link to get a better understanding of the true problem. I would really be interested in knowing what you think. It is a little long so take your time.

Link
Quoting Grothar:


No, were are not sure. You know, I joke around quite a bit on the blog, but in my alter-ego, I am a very serious person. I never get involved in the AGW debate. However, if a man walks by me and says the sky is falling, I smile and keep walking. If another person tells me the sky is falling. I start to think. If a third person tells me the sky is falling, I look up. With the media overload, it is very difficult to disseminate truth from fiction. Are there alarmists on both side....yes. One can posts all the graphs and models and articles they want. It means nothing. If you are serious, I will send you a link to get a better understanding of the true problem. I would really be interested in knowing what you think. It is a little long so take your time.

a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0402/f eature5/online_extra.html" target="_blank"


Quoting Grothar:


No, were are not sure. You know, I joke around quite a bit on the blog, but in my alter-ego, I am a very serious person. I never get involved in the AGW debate. However, if a man walks by me and says the sky is falling, I smile and keep walking. If another person tells me the sky is falling. I start to think. If a third person tells me the sky is falling, I look up. With the media overload, it is very difficult to disseminate truth from fiction. Are there alarmists on both side....yes. One can posts all the graphs and models and articles they want. It means nothing. If you are serious, I will send you a link to get a better understanding of the true problem. I would really be interested in knowing what you think. It is a little long so take your time.

Link


Do it.
Spastic fingers.
Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #4
TEMPETE TROPICALE MODEREE BINGIZA (05-20102011)
4:00 AM Reunion February 10 2011
=====================================

At 0:00 AM UTC, Moderate Tropical Storm Bingiza (991 hPa) located at 13.5S 54.2E has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 60 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west northwest at 5 knots.

Gale Force Winds
===============
40 NM from the center

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
80 NM from the center extending up to 100 NM in the northeastern quadrant and up to 120 NM in the western semi-circle

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.0D0.5/12 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
============================
12 HRS: 13.2S 54.0E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modéree)
24 HRS: 12.9S 54.3E - 45 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modéree)
48 HRS: 13.7S 54.8E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
72 HRS: 14.9S 54.7E - 75 knots (Cyclone Tropical)

Additional Information
======================

After a rapid intensification during the end of the day, BINGIZA seems to undergo the easterly wind shear visible on infrared satellite imagery (arc of cirrus on the east part of the system). From the latest hours, convection has slightly decreased near the center (summits less cold).

Available numerical weather prediction models are not in agreement for the expected tracks. However, they agree for an erratic track within the next 48 hours induced by contradictory mid level steering flow. Beyond, American and UKMO numerical weather prediction models forecast a southward track towards Madagascar while CEP and ARPEGE models forecast a southward track and then south southward track by CEP.

Consequently CMRS final forecast has been modified in regard with the previous. The system should begin later its southward track towards a mid latitude deep trough present in the south of the system near 50E. Before, easterly wind shear should restrict its intensification. After that, upper level conditions is expected to improve significantly with lower shear and good outflow specially polewards. Therefore, a stronger intensification rate is expected by that time.

INHABITANTS OF MASCARENES ISLANDS AND THE EASTERN COAST OF MADAGASCAR SHOULD CLOSELY FOLLOW THE EVOLUTION OF THIS SYSTEM.

The next tropical cyclone advisory from Seychelles Meteorological Services will be issued at 6:30 AM UTC..
Quoting twincomanche:
Spastic fingers.


Makes me feel good. I didn't know I was so quotable. LOL I bet your good at echos,too.
Quoting Grothar:


Makes me feel good. I didn't know I was so quotable. LOL I bet your good at echos,too.


Echo, echo, echo, echo. Yep good at that.
Anyone have any links to the Icelandic volcanism institute (I think that is the name). I cannot find any on this old PC I am doing CPR on, and the search engine is not finding it. Katla (who is my big concern) may be making noise, but I think her littler brother is making more right now. I see nothing at the USGS site that references it and the portal from them to a global activity site linked had significant security concerns.

TIA ~~ I would have thought we would have new activity info, but there seems to be a void since yesterday??? .....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ iceland/8311924/Icelandic-volcano-set-to-erupt.htm l
Is #82 an admission that there is a problem to be solved?

I think we've been here before but he started singing basso denialist when it was pointed out. The denialist leitmotif is that there is no problem to be fixed.
Quoting Ossqss:
Anyone have any links to the Icelandic volcanism institute (I think that is the name). I cannot find any on this old PC I am doing CPR on, and the search engine is not finding it. Katla (who is my big concern) may be making noise, but I think her littler brother is making more right now. I see nothing at the USGS site that references it and the portal from them to a global activity site linked had significant security concerns.

TIA ~~ I would have thought we would have new activity info, but there seems to be a void since yesterday??? .....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ iceland/8311924/Icelandic-volcano-set-to-erupt.htm l


I think you are referring to Bardarbunga.

I E-mailed a friend in Iceland today, and he said there is no immediate concern. The data is not complete and while there is activity, they do not believe it is urgent. Bardarbunga is much larger than Eyjafjallajkull, and yes I know how to pronounce it. LOL
Quoting Ossqss:
Anyone have any links to the Icelandic volcanism institute (I think that is the name). I cannot find any on this old PC I am doing CPR on, and the search engine is not finding it. Katla (who is my big concern) may be making noise, but I think her littler brother is making more right now. I see nothing at the USGS site that references it and the portal from them to a global activity site linked had significant security concerns.

TIA ~~ I would have thought we would have new activity info, but there seems to be a void since yesterday??? .....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ iceland/8311924/Icelandic-volcano-set-to-erupt.htm l


Try this. Most of the regular links are down,

http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/eart hquakes/langjokull/
Quoting Grothar:


I think you are referring to Bardarbunga.


Had that for lunch. Still suffering.
You see some pretty interesting ads when you google jwh250.

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Quoting bappit:
Is #82 an admission that there is a problem to be solved?

I think we've been here before but he started singing basso denialist when it was pointed out. The denialist leitmotif is that there is no problem to be fixed.


What's your point other than trying to provoke a argument?
Quoting jwh250:

Haven't seen you in a while!.Anyway Hypuweather is actually depending on a model run freaking 2 weeks out,about a big snow storm for the east.And well ya'll should know what I did next.....
Quoting Ossqss:
Anyone have any links to the Icelandic volcanism institute (I think that is the name). I cannot find any on this old PC I am doing CPR on, and the search engine is not finding it. Katla (who is my big concern) may be making noise, but I think her littler brother is making more right now. I see nothing at the USGS site that references it and the portal from them to a global activity site linked had significant security concerns.

TIA ~~ I would have thought we would have new activity info, but there seems to be a void since yesterday??? .....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ iceland/8311924/Icelandic-volcano-set-to-erupt.htm l


If you want to know the REAL story of what is happening with the Iceland volcanoes, go here and here.
Quoting twincomanche:


What's your point other than trying to provoke a argument?
Ah I see your back on.How's things?
Link Grimsvotn: Is Another Icelandic Volcano About to Erupt?


Quoting Ossqss:
Anyone have any links to the Icelandic volcanism institute (I think that is the name). I cannot find any on this old PC I am doing CPR on, and the search engine is not finding it. Katla (who is my big concern) may be making noise, but I think her littler brother is making more right now. I see nothing at the USGS site that references it and the portal from them to a global activity site linked had significant security concerns.

TIA ~~ I would have thought we would have new activity info, but there seems to be a void since yesterday??? .....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ iceland/8311924/Icelandic-volcano-set-to-erupt.htm l


I've been watching this page that monitors seismicity:

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/englishweb/eq_island.html. You can click on the map to zoom in.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Had that for lunch. Still suffering.


You should have had the genurkenflerken. It is much lighter, especially if you hold your nose.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Ah I see your back on.How's things?


Huh?
Hi.
Thanks for mentioning Oklahoma in your blog.

bringing their seasonal total to 19.6", still well shy of their all-time record of 25.2", set in 1947 - 1948.
The 19.6" all fell this month. The total shatters the OKC February snowfall record of 12.6" set in 1913. And we're proud of that.
:)

Snowfall Record Information for Oklahoma City

Some low temp records may fall overnight (npi) including those in OKC and Wichita Falls, TX.
Link Nordvulk
Quoting twincomanche:


Huh?
SMH. Like How are you???
Quoting washingtonian115:
SMH. Like How are you???


Wrong.
Quoting twincomanche:


What's your point other than trying to provoke a argument?

Just wondering if you realize that what you say is your biggest complaint about AGW believers is actually what AGW believers would like people to start thinking about. As long as people deny that there is a problem ... well ... seems like the problem will not get solved.
Link Katla Volcano
Quoting bappit:

Just wondering if you realize that what you say is your biggest complaint about AGW believers is actually what AGW believers would like people to start thinking about. As long as people deny that there is a problem ... well ... seems like the problem will not get solved.


Maybe, however the problem, if there is one will not get solved by destroying civilization as we know it either.
Quoting twincomanche:


Wrong.
???.Yeah I'm totally confused now.Never mind.When I said that I see your back on is that I thought you were banned for that bickering thing about AGW some time ago with another blogger.And then in the same post when I said How things I meant how are you doing.
A little weather update from Ms....more icy,boggy,mush ! Just enough to refreeze the bridges and overpasses later tonight. Am I complaining....that would be a big YES ! Bring on the sunshine :}




.....if?


Quoting EYEStoSEA:
A little weather update from Ms....more icy,boggy,mush ! Just enough to refreeze the bridges and overpasses later tonight. Am I complaining....that would be a big YES
Quoting washingtonian115:
???.Yeah I'm totally confused now.Never mind.When I said that I see your back on is that I thought you were banned for that bickering thing about AGW some time ago with another blogger.And then in the same post when I said How things I meant how are you doing.


Wrong guy.
Quoting Patrap:




.....if?




Pat, I did recognize the Jetsons...but have to ask who is the new old guy?
Dat be Sigmund Freud

Sigmund Freud , born Sigismund Schlomo Freud (6 May 1856- 23 September 1939), was an Austrian neurologist who founded the psychoanalytic school of psychiatry. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind and the defense mechanism of repression, and for creating the clinical practice of psychoanalysis for treating psychopathology through dialogue between a patient, technically referred to as an "analysand", and a psychoanalyst. Freud redefined sexual desire as the primary motivational energy of human life, developed therapeutic techniques such as the use of free association, created the theory of transference in the therapeutic relationship, and interpreted dreams as sources of insight into unconscious desires. He was an early neurological researcher into cerebral palsy, and a prolific essayist, drawing on psychoanalysis to contribute to the history, interpretation and critique of culture.
Quoting Patrap:




.....if?




....a picture paints a thousand words........
Gro,
I thought you were going to send me something smart?
Quoting Patrap:
Dat be Sigmund Freud

Sigmund Freud , born Sigismund Schlomo Freud (6 May 1856- 23 September 1939), was an Austrian neurologist who founded the psychoanalytic school of psychiatry. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind and the defense mechanism of repression, and for creating the clinical practice of psychoanalysis for treating psychopathology through dialogue between a patient, technically referred to as an "analysand", and a psychoanalyst. Freud redefined sexual desire as the primary motivational energy of human life, developed therapeutic techniques such as the use of free association, created the theory of transference in the therapeutic relationship, and interpreted dreams as sources of insight into unconscious desires. He was an early neurological researcher into cerebral palsy, and a prolific essayist, drawing on psychoanalysis to contribute to the history, interpretation and critique of culture.


That's a big cigar he's got.
Quoting Patrap:
Dat be Sigmund Freud


And what does that say about a person who can recognize the Jetson's not not Freud ? LOL...don't answer, please...
Anyway (rolling eyes)theirs an interesting article on hypuweather,that says an astriod could colide with earth in 2036.The astriod is about 900ft long.I couldn't imagine looking up twords the sky,and a big rock is coming right at you.That's freaking terrifying.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Anyway (rolling eyes)theirs an interesting article on hypuweather,that says an astriod could colide with earth in 2036.The astriod is about 900ft long.I couldn't imagine looking up twords the sky,and a big rock is coming right at you.That's freaking terrifying.

That's already been disproven, it's a 0 on the threat level.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Anyway (rolling eyes)theirs an interesting article on hypuweather,that says an astriod could colide with earth in 2036.The astriod is about 900ft long.I couldn't imagine looking up twords the sky,and a big rock is coming right at you.That's freaking terrifying.


W115, I saw a possible 100 or so snowflakes at my home today....just enough to make one mad...how are you doing?
Quoting twincomanche:
Gro,
I thought you were going to send me something smart?


I sent the link twice. It was at the bottom of the post. I will send it again. It will read Link.


Link
Hi guys just poping in to say I got my computer fixed so I am back in business full time anyway it is late and I have to be at work early tomrrow.
WunderkidCI out (if anyone does not know where I work it is at the National Weather Service, Cayman Islands
Quoting washingtonian115:
Anyway (rolling eyes)theirs an interesting article on hypuweather,that says an astriod could colide with earth in 2036.The astriod is about 900ft long.I couldn't imagine looking up twords the sky,and a big rock is coming right at you.That's freaking terrifying.


That story is a victim of the 24 hour news cycle. That's like trying to predict the weather. The operative word is could. Cows could jump over the moon. I just haven't seen one do it yet.
Quoting Grothar:


LOL I bet your good at echos,too.


Pink Floyd definitely is...

The links are appreciated, and I thank you! :)
Gro,
Got it.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


W115, I saw a possible 100 or so snowflakes at my home today....just enough to make one mad...how are you doing?
I'm doing fine.I was surprised though to see that It was snowing tonight.I guess that storm did get a little closer to our area than previously thought.But I'm still mad though,that some southern states have more snow in a day than D.C has.Defentally to be something ashamed of.Lol.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


And what does that say about a person who can recognize the Jetson's not not Freud ? LOL...don't answer, please...


Im gonna refrain from answering on the grounds dat yer a Fine neighbor,,and I like my head on my shoulders..


Admin nixed the Jetsons avatar and I Uploaded Freud,,

He's kinda like a mentor to me in a way.

In a Grothar kinda way really,,



-------------------------------------> Exits swiftly
Quoting twincomanche:


That story is a victim of the 24 hour news cycle. That's like trying to predict the weather. The operative word is could. Cows could jump over the moon. I just haven't seen one do it yet.

I've seen cows jump over the moon. you just have to believe.
Quoting 7080734:

That's already been disproven, it's a 0 on the threat level.
Quoting twincomanche:


That story is a victim of the 24 hour news cycle. That's like trying to predict the weather. The operative word is could. Cows could jump over the moon. I just haven't seen one do it yet.
It was mainly the russians that brought the case back up again,and said that the astroid has a small chance to actually colide with earth.But wait couldn't scientist destroy it with their gadgets?
Quoting Patrap:


Im gonna refrain from answering on the grounds dat yer a Fine neighbor,,and I like my head on my shoulders..


How southernly of you...I'm just waiting for Grothar to chime in with a Freudian remark /]
Quoting 7080734:

I've seen cows jump over the moon. you just have to believe.


You probably have seen that.
99942 Apophis (pronounced /əˈpɒfɪs/, previously known by its provisional designation 2004 MN4) is a near-Earth asteroid that caused a brief period of concern in December 2004 because initial observations indicated a small probability (up to 2.7%) that it would strike the Earth in 2029. Additional observations provided improved predictions that eliminated the possibility of an impact on Earth or the Moon in 2029. However, a possibility remained that during the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about 600 meters across[6], that would set up a future impact on April 13, 2036. This possibility kept the asteroid at Level 1 on the Torino impact hazard scale until August 2006, when the probability that Apophis will pass through the keyhole was determined to be very small. Apophis broke the record for the highest level on the Torino Scale, being, for only a short time, a level 4, before it was lowered.[7] Its diameter is approximately 270 meters (885 ft).[2]
Link
I've seen pigs fly.
Quoting twincomanche:


That story is a victim of the 24 hour news cycle. That's like trying to predict the weather. The operative word is could. Cows could jump over the moon. I just haven't seen one do it yet.


Try some Absinthe, then watch the cow. ;)
I see jwh is still stealing pictures I will report it to admin.

Please flag that troll and I will also inform the photo owner.
Quoting Patrap:


Im gonna refrain from answering on the grounds dat yer a Fine neighbor,,and I like my head on my shoulders..


Admin nixed the Jetsons avatar and I Uploaded Freud,,

He's kinda like a mentor to me in a way.

In a Grothar kinda way really,,



-------------------------------------> Exits swiftly



In your dreams! LOL
done,.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


How southernly of you...I'm just waiting for Grothar to chime in with a Freudian remark /]


I already did, post #142. I think you all missed it.
Quoting Patrap:


Im gonna refrain from answering on the grounds dat yer a Fine neighbor,,and I like my head on my shoulders..


Admin nixed the Jetsons avatar and I Uploaded Freud,,

He's kinda like a mentor to me in a way.

In a Grothar kinda way really,,



-------------------------------------> Exits swiftly


LOL, that gets the "Will" award :)




out>>>>>>>>>>>
Quoting JFLORIDA:
That by the way is like also a psychotic stalker that has been banned form this site.
Ohh no!!.I knew I seen that picture some where(my memory isn't that fresh when It comes to remembering names).Ah! now I know who had that piture.It was steve...somthing..
Quoting Grothar:


I already did, post #142. I think you all missed it.


Like I always say.."went right over my head" I'm just a common gentile southern belle......
submitted.
Quoting Grothar:


That's a big cigar he's got.


I gotta get sum new Glasses ASAP
Quoting JFLORIDA:
That by the way is like also a psychotic stalker that has been banned form this site.


Quoting JFLORIDA:
That by the way is like also a psychotic stalker that has been banned form this site.


Well in just a few hundred entries, we have covered, AGW, the destruction of the world by an asteroid, Icelandic volcanoes, cows jumping over the moon, Pink Floyd, Freud, genurkenflerken, Lost in Space videos; I think some of us may qualify in some odd categories ourselves.
Just hit Ctrl ++ a few times Grothar....really helps
I'll take "wunderground potpourri" for 500 Alex
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Like I always say.."went right over my head" I'm just a common gentile southern belle......


Yes, I believe Scarlett O'Hara said the same thing. LOL. You're OK. EYES.
Who's in charge here?!
I saw that "L" as it went by too....


Just Under da Moon..



If you don't care for Identity theft please flag post 111.
Quoting presslord:
Who's in charge here?!

They are.
Quoting presslord:
Who's in charge here?!



Grothar,,he's da Oldest
Quoting Grothar:



In your dreams! LOL


Now thats funny, in a strange psychoanalitical way. :)
Quoting Grothar:




Well in just a few hundred entries, we have covered, AGW, the destruction of the world by an asteroid, Icelandic volcanoes, cows jumping over the moon, Pink Floyd, Freud, genurkenflerken, Lost in Space videos; I think some of us may qualify in some odd categories ourselves.


Wait!!!!! You left out weather :) Gnight~~~~~

Quoting RTLSNK:


Now thats funny, in a strange psychoanalitical way. :)


Calm down there, JF....done
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Just hit Ctrl ++ a few times Grothar....really helps



Oh Uh...sorry wrong post...
I use my identity here as it gives me more options to deal with problems and I don't care for identity theft. That shouldn't even have to be a worry - and its not funny. Especially considering that poster copied rich's information to their computer and held it until now.

Thats symptomatic of another problem.

Ill wager the reason most of you are not using your real ID is you are worried about crazies and harassers out there.

I would rather you felt you could.
Quoting RTLSNK:


Now thats funny, in a strange psychoanalitical way. :)


Yo! Snake. When did you slither in? Our weather has been great. Perfect, warm, winter weather. How you guys been up there.
Grothar ...You're KRAZY.......lolol...I needed a good laugh..
No i got that off of of google images just now.  If you don't want to have something on google or yahoo images forever then don't use a real specific handle like that use a generic one.
Im not playing with you.
#101
All we have to do is look at the Cost/Benefit ratio for the consequences of global warming and it should be obvious that failing to minimize any human contributions to this phenomenon will be extremely costly, to say nothing of ecologically and emotionally devastating. Whether global warming is "anthropogenic" or not is irrelevant.

Quoting Grothar:


No, were are not sure. You know, I joke around quite a bit on the blog, but in my alter-ego, I am a very serious person. I never get involved in the AGW debate. However, if a man walks by me and says the sky is falling, I smile and keep walking. If another person tells me the sky is falling. I start to think. If a third person tells me the sky is falling, I look up. With the media overload, it is very difficult to disseminate truth from fiction. Are there alarmists on both side....yes. One can posts all the graphs and models and articles they want. It means nothing. If you are serious, I will send you a link to get a better understanding of the true problem. I would really be interested in knowing what you think. It is a little long so take your time.

Link
Quoting twincomanche:
Mostly what bothers me is that the GW folks don't seem to have a plan for what we should be doing short of totally destroying our Western life style and all of us going back to living in caves. If the GW folks would publish a transition path to "clean" "sustainable" "renewable" energy I might buy in. What I see is mostly a group that hates the human race and wishes we would all just kill ourselves and the problem would then go away. Where is the plan to get from A to B without anarchy taking over. I would love to read one.

Nuclear is clean energy and all I hear out of most GW folks is "We have all this nuclear waste already and we don't know what to do with it." Well that's just plain wrong for anyone not too lazy to research the subject for ten minutes and it's certainly a way forward.

Can anyone here point me toward someone with a coherent plan?


I communicate with a large group of people whom work on the AGW problem, many might be considered radical environmentalists, and not one of them advocates killing ourselves to make the problem go away, nor does a one propose going back to the stone age or living in caves (most are very pro-technology). That is all just spin thrown out there by Exxon/Mobile (and others) to confuse the issue, demonize environmentalists, and create an atmosphere of fear paralyzing the democratic process.

We fear if the problem isn't addressed soon, society will probably collapse, and we will end up living in caves. This isn't the desired result but a probable outcome.

Personally, i am a "pro-nuclear green", and feel nuclear power represents an important piece of the energy puzzle. Efficiency and reduction will also play a big role, along with a combination of other energy generation methods.

I agree that there is to much anti-nuclear dogma stifling conversation on appropriate transitional methods to cleaner energy. But, another part of the problem is we end up spending so much energy arguing with deniers over an issue that has already been scientifically settled, that little time and energy get spent trying to find solutions.
Quoting gatorojo:


I communicate with a large group of people whom work on the AGW problem, many might be considered radical environmentalists, and not one of them advocates killing ourselves to make the problem go away, nor does a one propose going back to the stone age or living in caves (most are very pro-technology). That is all just spin thrown out there by Exxon/Mobile (and others) to confuse the issue, demonize environmentalists, and create an atmosphere of fear paralyzing the democratic process.

We fear if the problem isn't addressed soon, society will probably collapse, and we will end up living in caves. This isn't the desired result but a probable outcome.

Personally, i am a "pro-nuclear green", and feel nuclear power represents an important piece of the energy puzzle. Efficiency and reduction will also play a big role, along with a combination of other energy generation methods.

I agree that there is to much anti-nuclear dogma stifling conversation on appropriate transitional methods to cleaner energy. But, another part of the problem is we end up spending so much energy arguing with deniers over an issue that has already been scientifically settled, that little time and energy get spent trying to find solutions.


A very relevant post,indeed
Quoting Grothar:


Yo! Snake. When did you slither in? Our weather has been great. Perfect, warm, winter weather. How you guys been up there.


Came in just in time to read the last two pages. Saw your note on Orca's and left you a cogitated reply. :)

Your weather sounds nice, our weather, well, you be the judge:

Winter Weather Advisory
Statement as of 9:40 PM EST on February 09, 2011


A Winter weather Advisory remains in effect until noon EST
Thursday.

* Locations: along and north of a line from Muskogee and Taylor
counties to Jefferson County.

* Hazards: mainly light snow or rain changing to snow.

* Timing: snow begins over far north Georgia Wednesday evening
with rain changing to snow for the rest of the north and parts
of central Georgia during the night.

* Accumulations: 1 to 2 inches across the far north... around an
inch for Atlanta Metro and surrounding locations and less than
a half an inch over the rest of the advisory area.

* Impacts: roads will become slick if snow can accumulate on
them... especially bridges and overpasses.

* Temperatures: lows 25 to 30 across the far north and 28 to 33
across the rest of the advisory area.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A Winter Weather Advisory means that periods of snow... sleet... or
freezing rain will cause travel difficulties. Be prepared for
slippery roads and limited visibilities... and use caution while
driving.




Quoting JFLORIDA:
Im not playing with you.
This is a series problem,that needs to be dealt with.But the question is...how?
Quoting GrtLksQuest:
#101
All we have to do is look at the Cost/Benefit ratio for the consequences of global warming and it should be obvious that failing to minimize any human contributions to this phenomenon will be extremely costly, to say nothing of ecologically and emotionally devastating. Whether global warming is "anthropogenic" or not is irrelevant.



Well said. I believe it will cost us more to do nothing.
Quoting washingtonian115:
This is a series problem,that needs to be dealt with.But the question is...how?


I say we should go nuclear... :p
Quoting washingtonian115:
This is a series problem,that needs to be dealt with.But the question is...how?

Ignore works for me.
Quoting RTLSNK:


Came in just in time to read the last two pages. Saw your note on Orca's and left you a cogitated reply. :)

Your weather sounds nice, our weather, well, you be the judge:

Winter Weather Advisory
Statement as of 9:40 PM EST on February 09, 2011


A Winter weather Advisory remains in effect until noon EST
Thursday.

* Locations: along and north of a line from Muskogee and Taylor
counties to Jefferson County.

* Hazards: mainly light snow or rain changing to snow.

* Timing: snow begins over far north Georgia Wednesday evening
with rain changing to snow for the rest of the north and parts
of central Georgia during the night.

* Accumulations: 1 to 2 inches across the far north... around an
inch for Atlanta Metro and surrounding locations and less than
a half an inch over the rest of the advisory area.

* Impacts: roads will become slick if snow can accumulate on
them... especially bridges and overpasses.

* Temperatures: lows 25 to 30 across the far north and 28 to 33
across the rest of the advisory area.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A Winter Weather Advisory means that periods of snow... sleet... or
freezing rain will cause travel difficulties. Be prepared for
slippery roads and limited visibilities... and use caution while
driving.






Hey, no one told you to leave.


Quoting Grothar:


Hey, no one told you to leave.




After our close encounter with Andrew we thought a little snow might not be too bad. As the temp drops tonight we might get a half inch of snow out of this system before it goes by. Temp tomorrow about 49. Not so bad, eh?
That was weird, what was that? An echo?
Quoting JFLORIDA:
Im not playing with you.


First, I hate smart phones!

Now, JF, you know very well that anything you place on the net, in a public domain, or even a private domain, is readily accessible with ease, until the servers fail (RAID) and or someones HD fails that contains scraped info.

Even your, initial, and subsequently truncated, posts are still there.... Just sayin, if you post it, and place it, you live with it. I am not saying snatch and grab is right, I am just saying it is there, once you willingly put it there, for others to see!

Try it an see?

Maybe I know nothing, but remember that FACT folks :)




An echo in here, noway.
Quoting RTLSNK:
That was weird, what was that? An echo?



No, no, nooooooooo
Signing off, want to get up early to see the snow. :)

snow

snow
Is truncated a real word?....or something ya'll just made up....anyway I have it.....lol.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Is truncated a real word?....or something ya'll just made up....anyway I have it.....lol.


You never took geometry or trig?

Let me show you. If one of them loses, it is possible the loser will be truncated.

Quoting Grothar:


You never took geometry or trig?

Let me show you. If one of them loses, it is possible the loser will be truncated.



Yep !..I sure have it,alright ;}
Kim Kardashian is truncated fer sure.
anyone suggest good winter forecast models and any links,hunt'n for a snowstorm in the NE feb18-24th;)
Quoting Patrap:
Kim Kardashian is truncated fer sure.


Probablly will be botoxed soon.......
215. JRRP
Quoting Grothar:


You never took geometry or trig?

Let me show you. If one of them loses, it is possible the loser will be truncated.



I am thankful you did not bring up this clickable pic :) out>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



Quoting Ossqss:


I am thankful you did not bring up this clickable pic :) out>>>>>>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>





I think I may have eaten some in an Italian restaurant once. Tasted an awful lot like chicken.
comment 204 is incorrect - no such thing as a total release - in identity at least, or "public domain" for that matter. I retain ownership of everything I post here beyond WU's use of it.

My id photos are released to WU solely for identification purposes only. I have the original source, meta and bitmap data and believe me if I find it misused I go after anyone or any corporation in an instant.

Works are in the public domain if they are not covered by intellectual property rights at all, if the intellectual property rights have expired, and/or if the intellectual property rights are forfeited.

None of that is true. Just because its on the Internet doesn't mean its "public domain." It isn't even true for non id photos released to WU.
Solar data is in for January and the magnetic field remains extraordinarily weak this far into the cycle:

Quoting Grothar:


I think I may have eaten some in an Italian restaurant once. Tasted an awful lot like chicken.


Can lead directly to Gastroenteritis! over and out~~~ You all are keeping me up :) gnight twice.....snooooorrrrreeeeee, echo, echo , echo ~~~

Quoting Levi32:
Solar data is in for January and the magnetic field remains extraordinarily weak this far into the cycle:



Levi, what are you doing up this late? It is almost midnight.
Quoting Patrap:
Kim Kardashian is truncated fer sure.


Kim Kardashian is now the subject on the weather blog? what has this world come to?
Latest on LIHEAP... but first... Father in Law was a German POW in WWII...

Anyway, this is getting very interesting LIHEAP.

LIHEAP article

So fossil fuel subsidies have grown by 2.5 billion under Obama?

I've blogged about this program on this site already...

"Critics say that the program is poorly administered and that, contrary to intentions, it’s become a subsidy for energy companies, most of whom are prohibited by law from turning off services to delinquent bill-payers during weather emergencies. About 10 percent of LIHEAP funds are transferred to 'weatherization' programs, according to a government study."

Weatherization... let the slum lords pay (commerce clause will do... stop sticking this on the tax payers and put it on the property owners of rental properties).

Very interesting...

3 billion increase in LIHEAP, a fossil fuel subsidy during the Obama administration?

Stop fossil fuel subsidies NOW.
Quoting Jedkins01:


Kim Kardashian is now the subject on the weather blog? what has this world come to?


Who is Kim kardashian? I don't have a TV.
Quoting Ossqss:


Can lead directly to Gastroenteritis! over and out~~~ You all are keeping me up :) gnight twice.....snooooorrrrreeeeee, echo, echo , echo ~~~



Nite OSS. Thanks for the laughs. Time to go for me too. Everyone be on their best behavior. This is for the blog. I watched this when I was a little boy. LOL

Well, I guess XCOOL and Keeper not gonna post any pretty visuals, so I'm gonna get to bed and hope I awake to sunshine :) Goodnight all......
Quoting geepy86:

Ignore works for me.
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


I say we should go nuclear... Going nuclear is a little extream :p.Ignore works,or just don't pay attetion to the blogger at all.
96S

Quoting Grothar:


Levi, what are you doing up this late? It is almost midnight.

I bet it isn't in Alaksa. :P
Quoting 1900hurricane:

I bet it isn't in Alaksa. :P


Where is Alaksa?
234. Ylee
Is it safe???
Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #5
TEMPETE TROPICALE MODEREE BINGIZA (05-20102011)
10:00 AM Reunion February 10 2011
=====================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Moderate Tropical Storm Bingiza (991 hPa) located at 13.3S 54.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 60 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving northeast at 4 knots.

Gale Force Winds
===============
40 NM from the center

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
80 NM from the center extending up to 100 NM in the northeastern quadrant and up to 120 NM in the western semi-circle

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.0/D1.0/24 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
============================
12 HRS: 13.0S 54.6E - 45 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modéree)
24 HRS: 13.0S 54.9E - 50 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
48 HRS: 13.8S 54.9E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
72 HRS: 15.3S 54.8E - 80 knots (Cyclone Tropical)

Additional Information
======================

Convection has gathered around the system center within the last 6 hours.

System should move very slowly and approximately northeastward and then southward during the next 48 hours. It should track between the southwest and then south southwest beyond. Numerical weather prediction models are not in good agreement for the movement of the system beyond 48-82 hours. The present forecast is a consensus of these tracks.

The system isn't expected to track towards a mid latitude deep trough in its south before 48 hours. Before, easterly wind shear should slow its intensification. Beyond 48 to 72 hours, upper level conditions are expected to improve significant with lower shear and good outflow specially poleward. Therefore, a stronger intensification rate is expected by that time.

INHABITANTS OF MASCARENES ISLANDS AND THE EASTERN COAST OF MADAGASCAR SHOULD CLOSELY FOLLOW THE EVOLUTION OF THIS SYSTEM.

The next tropical cyclone advisory from Seychelles Meteorological Services will be issued at 12:30 PM UTC..
Uptown,New Orleans

Overcast
37.9 F
Feels Like 35 F
Overcast

Burrrrski....
All time state record low in OK threatened to be broken...it is -27F right now in Bartlesville, OK...which ties the all-time low of -27F.
I retract my "Burrrrr",,on that last post of mine,

Wowsa..Artic Intrusion fer sure in Okla.
Airport, Naples

Moderate Fog
68°F
Feels Like 68°F
Forecast: afternoon showers. High: 78°F

Niceski....
Quoting txag91met:
All time state record low in OK threatened to be broken...it is -27F right now in Bartlesville, OK...which ties the all-time low of -27F.

Yikes. The good news: the Bartlesville forecast for next Wednesday: 72. A 99-degree swing in just six days. Welcome news, no doubt.
kind of cool cloudy mid 60s. getting geared up for cv season
242. IKE
I had .21 inches of rain in the past 24 hours. My total for February is at 2.89. Inland Florida panhandle.

Current temp 39.5 and cloudy. Warmer weather and dry the next 7 days.
Quoting Ylee:
Is it safe???
bawahahahahaaa

Lovely camelot-like fog here in SWFL - great weather for running -- yearning, yearning for surf --but I can't deal w/64 degree water temp,
*sigh* Oh SPRING WHERE ART THOU????

photo gulfster from 2/9/11
244. IKE
QPF the next 5 days....


245. IKE
PRELIMINARY EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD
756 AM EST THU FEB 10 2011

VALID 12Z MON FEB 14 2011 - 12Z THU FEB 17 2011

GLOBAL GUIDANCE DEPICTS A SLIGHTLY AMPLIFIED LONGWAVE PATTERN
DEVELOPING OVER THE CONUS DAYS 3-7 WITH AN EMBEDDED PROGRESSIVE
SHORTWAVE TROUGH/RIDGE EVOLUTION THAT CHANGES FROM NEARLY ZONAL BY
DAY 3 TO SUPPORTING A SEMI-LARGE UPPER TROUGH SOMEWHERE BETWEEN
THE WEST COAST AND THE ROCKIES BY DAY 7. THE ANTICIPATED RANGE OF
THE TROUGH POSITION BY LATE IN THE PERIOD APPEARS TO ORIGINATE
FROM GROWING SOLUTION SPREAD IN THE EVOLVING SHORTWAVE PATTERN
OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA AND NORTHERN RUSSIA. THE WINTER STORM
RECONNAISSANCE PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR A FLIGHT OUT OF
ANCHORAGE AROUND 12Z TODAY TO SAMPLE THE GULF OF ALASKA AREA WHICH
MAY CONTRIBUTE TO SOME SOLUTION CONVERGENCE WHEN THEIR SOLUTIONS
ARRIVE. BUT UNTIL THEN...THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR A DETERMINISTIC
CONSENSUS EARLY AND ENSEMBLE MEAN GUIDANCE LATE. THUS...THE PRELIM
PRESSURES/FRONT WILL BEGIN WITH ABOUT A 50/50 00Z GFS/ECMWF BLEND
DAY 3...THEN END WITH 100 PERCENT 12Z NAEFS BCMEAN BY DAY 7 WHEN
UNCERTAINTY IS GREATEST.

...MORNING UPDATED PRELIMS...
WITH BASICALLY VERY GOOD MODEL AND ENSEMBLE AGREEMENT THROUGH DAY
5 TUESDAY AND THEN SHORTWAVE TIMING IN AN AGREED UPON EPAC/WRN
CONUS TROF DAYS 6 AND 7 WED/THU IT IS SIMPLER TO USE AN ENSEMBLE
MEAN BLEND OF GFS AND ECMWF RIGHT THROUGHT THE FORECAST PERIOD AND
MORE LIKELY TO HAVE BETTER VERIFICATION.

AGAIN A TRANSITION FROM A WARMER DRIER WEST TO COOLER AND MUCH
WETTER CENTRAL AND NRN PACIFIC COAST WITH DOWNSTREAM CENTRAL AND
ERN CONUS WARMING AND DRYING.
JAMES/ROSENSTEIN
Quoting surfmom:
bawahahahahaaa

Lovely camelot-like fog here in SWFL - great weather for running -- yearning, yearning for surf --but I can't deal w/64 degree water temp,
*sigh* Oh SPRING WHERE ART THOU????

photo gulfster from 2/9/11
That is a nice lookin wave. Stack another 3 feet on it and I will ignore the 64 degrees. :)
SSTs aren't too far away from where they were last year--but they are considerable warmer than they were on this date in 2009, especially in the Western Caribbean. It's actual warmer this year in parts of the Atlantic than it was last year.

110 days and counting...

2009 (click for larger image):

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.


2010 (click for larger image):

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.


2011 (click for larger image):

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.
Quoting surfmom:
bawahahahahaaa

Lovely camelot-like fog here in SWFL - great weather for running -- yearning, yearning for surf --but I can't deal w/64 degree water temp,
*sigh* Oh SPRING WHERE ART THOU????

photo gulfster from 2/9/11
spring is on the way the first signal of spring arrives next week with the first significant warm up
Link

This station broke the record:

-28F...Davis Vantage Pro!
Quoting txag91met:
Link

This station broke the record:

-28F...Davis Vantage Pro!

Incredible
We have snow in Macon Georgia this morning.
Not very much of course, but pretty none the less.
Temp is already 35*F headed for 47 so it won't last long.
Quoting RTLSNK:
We have snow in Macon Georgia this morning.
Not very much of course, but pretty none the less.
Temp is already 35*F headed for 47 so it won't last long.

Yeah, that'll be gone before you know it. Even with temperatures soaring into the 60's next week for areas of OK that experienced all the snow, you can bet that snowpacked will be chipped away at.
A bit foggy during my morning jog on Vanderbilt Beach.
Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #6
TEMPETE TROPICALE MODEREE BINGIZA (05-20102011)
16:00 PM Reunion February 10 2011
=====================================

At 12:00 PM UTC, Moderate Tropical Storm Bingiza (991 hPa) located at 13.8S 54.2E has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 60 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west southwest at 3 knots.

Gale Force Winds
===============
40 NM from the center

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
80 NM from the center extending up to 100 NM in the southwestern quadrant and up to 120 NM in the northwestern quadrant

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.0/D0.5/24 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
============================
12 HRS: 13.6S 54.4E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modéree)
24 HRS: 13.6S 54.8E - 45 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modéree)
48 HRS: 13.9S 55.2E - 50 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
72 HRS: 15.5S 54.3E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)

Additional Information
======================

Last available satellite imagery shows that system is under the influence of southeast constraint.

Movement remains slow with poorly defined steering flow. Numerical weather prediction models suggest a slow movement eastward for the next 48 hours. Up to Saturday, system should slightly intensify, with the persistent upper level shear. Energetic oceanic potential should weaken too with the slow movement of the system.

Beyond 48 hours, system should begin to move southward and after southwest towards a mid-latitude trough. Environmental conditions will improve with good upper level divergence and system should intensify more rapidly after Sunday.

INHABITANTS OF MASCARENES ISLANDS AND THE EASTERN COAST OF MADAGASCAR SHOULD CLOSELY FOLLOW THE EVOLUTION OF THIS SYSTEM

The next tropical cyclone advisory from Seychelles Meteorological Services will be issued at 18:30 PM UTC..
Good Morning everyone! Well it is a lovely 76 degrees in Key West this morning. A bit of cloud cover overhead and forecast for some rain today. We shall see. Nothing was on the radar this morning. The current clouds are not heavy enough to rain, yet. We sure could use some rain though.
Quoting txag91met:
Link

This station broke the record:

-28F...Davis Vantage Pro!

It appears as though -27 will likely be official, tying the record for the fourth time.

http://www.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KBVO.html
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Yeah, that'll be gone before you know it. Even with temperatures soaring into the 60's next week for areas of OK that experienced all the snow, you can bet that snowpacked will be chipped away at.
turn to water in a flash 60's to upper 60's will make it flash

make sure all storm drains are clear so it has some where to go
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Quoting kwgirl:
Good Morning everyone! Well it is a lovely 76 degrees in Key West this morning. A bit of cloud cover overhead and forecast for some rain today. We shall see. Nothing was on the radar this morning. The current clouds are not heavy enough to rain, yet. We sure could use some rain though.

Morning. Well according to the 5 day QPF precipitation forecast IKE posted in #244, it looks like perhaps a half an inch could be on the way.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
turn to water in a flash 60's to upper 60's will make it flash

make sure all storm drains are clear so it has some where to go

Exactly. While 60's would be more welcomed for those folks shivering in -28 degree temperatures, upper 30's or even some 40's thrown in there would be a better non-flash flooding conducive environment.
-33 at Waskish Municipal Airport, in northwest MN.
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Morning. Well according to the 5 day QPF precipitation forecast IKE posted in #244, it looks like perhaps a half an inch could be on the way.
Hopefully it will hover over the keys instead of watering the ocean.
Colder night/morning on tap tomm for SE TX, everything is crisp brown and dead around here, but soon enough things will start to green in a month
Was hoping the mid 20s would kill off the wild clover growing in yards and fields but apparently not cold enough