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Winter forecast, part I: the woolley bear prediction

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:48 PM GMT on November 20, 2008

According to legend, the severity of the upcoming winter can be judged by examining the pattern of brown and black stripes on woolly bear caterpillars--the larvae of Isabella tiger moths. If the brown stripe between the two black stripes on either end of the caterpillar is thick, the winter will be a mild one. A narrow brown stripe portends a long, cold winter. Some traditional forecasters say that the 13 segments on the caterpillar's body correspond to the 13 weeks of winter.

The Hagerstown, Maryland woolley bear forecast
The Hagerstown, Maryland Town and Country Almanack has been publishing weather forecasts and weather lore for 211 years. The Almanack sponsors an annual woolly bear caterpillar event, where local school children in Hagerstown collect woolly bears. A panel of judges examines the collected specimens and issues a woolly bear forecast for the upcoming winter. The results of this year's contest, which ended October 31: "From the small number of woolly bears, the consensus is that the winter will be very mild. The woolly bears predicted this by their three (3) bands of which the front band (representing the first half of winter and black in color) was shorter in length and normal. The back band (representing the second half of winter) was very small, thus indicating the mild winter prediction. As a result of those markings, which were similar in all woolly bears, the sponsors were able to make the predictions."

Oil Valley Vick
Naturally, this forecast only applies to the Hagerstown, Maryland area, so other locales will need to do their own woolly bear work to gauge the local winter forecast. In Oil City, Pennsylvania, just 150 miles northwest of Hagerstown, organizers of the Pumkin Bumkin Festival have located the lair of "Oil Valley Vick", a woolly bear caterpillar of unknown forecasting ability, but great potential. In his inaugural forecast on October 23 this year, Oil Valley Vick wowed the crowd at the Pumkin Bumkin Festival when he crawled out of his log. The black stripes covering fully 2/3 of Oil Valley Vick's body left no doubt that he expected a cold, severe winter for northwestern Pennsylvania.


Figure 1. Kelly the woolly bear caterpillar with her owner, six-year-old Kurstin Hartsell of Ansonville, NC. Image credit: Jim Morton, Avery County Chamber of Commerce.

The Banner Elk, North Carolina Woolly Bear forecast
In Banner Elk, NC it's the fastest woolly bear caterpillar which is judged to be the best forecaster. After successfully out-sprinting hundreds of other woolly bears, this year's winner of the 31st Annual Woolly Worm Festival race was Kelly the Woolly Worm, raced by six-year-old Kurstin Hartsell of Ansonville, NC. Kelly the Woolly Worm's official forecast for the winter of 2008-2009 calls for the first four weeks to be cold and snowy, followed by three weeks of seasonably cold weather, followed by six weeks of snowy and cold weather (severely cold in week 11, March 1-7). A study of the predictions of the Banner Elk woolly bears between 1978 and 2000 revealed that "woolly worm winter predictions were exactly on target eight times out of 23, or 34.8%. Woolly worm predictions were close (4.0-4.9) another five times (21.7%). Woolly worm predictions were right in some areas, wrong in others (3.0-3.9) six times (26.1%). Woolly worm predictions were wrong more than they were right (2.0-2.9) four times (17.4%). Put another way, the woolly worms were close or completely right 57% of the time, and more than half right 82.6% of the time".

Other studies of woolly bear forecast accuracy
Several scientific studies have been done on woolly bear caterpillar forecasts, including one by the American Museum of Natural History. None of these studies has shown any correlation between woolly bear markings and the severity of the upcoming winter. According to the Old Farmer's Almanac, Dr. Charles Curran, curator of insects at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, studied woolly bear markings between 1948-1956 in Bear Mountain State Park, 40 miles north of New York City. He found some preliminary results that seemed to indicate that the thickness of the bands might indicate the severity of the upcoming winter. However, Dr. Curran gave up the study in 1955 after finding two groups of caterpillars living near each other that had vastly different predictions for the upcoming winter, according to science writer Ned Rozell.

So, two out of three woolley bear forecasts point to a colder than average winter for the Appalachian region of the U.S. In upcoming blog posts, I'll analyze what NOAA's computer models and the Old Farmer's Almanac have to say about the upcoming winter.

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Jeff Masters

Winter Weather

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Thanks Doc!

I have heard about the Woolley Bear forecasts.

Also squirl tails, squirl nut collection, bears hybirnation patterns, old indian lore of number of snows.

What other "forecasting" tricks have folks heard about or beleive in.
You can tell the severity of the winters by how thick the fat layers are on wild ducks and geese when you clean them.

Mom used to say it would be a wet season if the ant mounds are built uo nice and high.
I guess we can shut down all those computer models.
That wooley bear is a cute little insect. Very interesting. Thanks!
Thanks Doc
Haven't seen any wooly bears in the swamp.
Guess I'll use my "wooly ears". They need shaving a bit more often every year, but I'll keep it seasonal... lol
Streamtracker
From last blog: Thanks for link to Argo Floats.
That answered my last question from yesterday's GW war.
Guess you just can't do better than sticking a thermometer in a bottle for reliability.
Old fashion ways "sometimes" rule.
LOL NE one can only imagine LOL
Thanks, I think Dr.
I had to check my calendar though...this entry sounded more like your annual April 1st blog!

Quoting Bonedog:
LOL NE one can only imagine LOL


Its actually pretty funny when you google winter folklore,some of the things that have been passed down throught the ages.
Hello All! I live in Asheville. I would believe it when the little ones say it will be a cold one.

Gene.
What a hoot.
Ann Curry and her Kiliminjaro team wussed out and didn't make it past 16,000 feet. But,she proved her point, somehow, hmmmm ???
Heck, I could see the reduced snow cover from the base pics and fly overs.
What some will do to look heroic. Never ends.
10. NEwxguy

doing that now LOL
Morning everyone......
All no not again.....

Morning Tampa
17. EvPv
I've also heard about the heights of bee nests. The height of the bee nests is how much snow we'll get.

If we get that much, I'll be a son of a bee :)
Quoting TampaSpin:
All no not again.....



Here we go again!

who knows maybe they'll pull out of the bottom like they did last week (the 900 point swing we saw)
From Previous blog comments:

Quoting theshepherd:
mornin all
Hey dog, I've got a super video of a marlin tangled up in the Atwood submersible. Can't figure out how to post it from my desktop though.



The following video shows the whole incident...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn22jvxfHOE

Added: November 12, 2008
Marlin stuck in off shore oil rig
A marlin gets stuck in the blow out prevention stack of a subsea oil rig.
The guy operation the ROV manages to get him out though

Quoting Hurricane4Lex:


Here we go again!

who knows maybe they'll pull out of the bottom like they did last week (the 900 point swing we saw)


Im starting to believe it will reach below 6000 before it bottoms out....just being a realist....I think everyone should sing this to their spouses tonite before bed.

Signs of a long, severe winter

* Unusually warm temperatures in the first week of August

* Thick fog in August

* Cranes appear in early autumn

* Blooms of a dogwood tree are full

* Many meteors during the summer

* Tough apple skins in autumn

* Corn husks are thicker and stronger

* Acorns litter the ground on Sept. 29

* Hornets build their nests low to the ground

* Leaves wither and stay on the branches in October

* Berries are plentiful in the wild

* Birds migrate earlier than usual

* Flowers still in bloom late in autumn

* Thunder during Christmas week
I say the world is headed twords Mad Max era!

Time to start storing the guns and ammo, rigging the cars with gernade launchers, and start hording the fuel.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The sky is faling
The Sky is falling
the sky IS falling

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Cat 12 hurricanes
Cat 20 Tornados
Fire and Brimestone
Salt Pillars
Wildfires

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Mayan 2012

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


************************************************

ok now that I cleared my head back to the regularly schedualed blogging =)

as you can tell the last post was PURELY comical and for everyones enjoyment and laughter
RE 20:

then again

Link

uh oh

RE 21:

what does meteors have to do with winter?

unless, is clear skies the reason behind seeing more meteors NE?
I hope everyone has seen the models for next weekend.....as it appears a massive winter Storm will hit the SE Northward with some major travel problems coming over the holiday weekend....look at this loop and look at days 8-10

Quoting Bonedog:
as you can tell the last post was PURELY comical and for everyones enjoyment and laughter


Bone i was about to call 911 for ya.....problem was they would have not know where to take you too......lmao
Quoting Bonedog:
as you can tell the last post was PURELY comical and for everyones enjoyment and laughter


LOL

don't forget that in 2012 we'll defy the laws of physics to the point where everything will be nothing!

LOL
Time to start storing the guns and ammo, rigging the cars with gernade launchers, and start hording the fuel.


Except for the grenade launcher thing...I have been doing this for more than 10 years!
LOL
Tampa I have noticed that storm. Earlier this week the ECM was the only one showing it now the GFS has it. This might be the first "storm" of the season. We have the cold air in place very well, the grounds are frozen now so what falls will stick. Plus if it takes the shape that the models are showing it will be a nasty one. Might screw up alot of travel plans for folks.

Still have time to watch the trends though BUT it doesn't appear good anymore.
GM Tampa,thanks for the Eric Clapton video,he's at the top of my list
glad everyone got the comedy =) I thought it might get lost in translation.
Quoting Hurricane4Lex:
RE 20:

then again

Link

uh oh

RE 21:

what does meteors have to do with winter?

unless, is clear skies the reason behind seeing more meteors NE?


Ok,Lex,your first mistake is trying to make logic out of these myths,somehow people in the past associated lots of meteors with more snowfall.
Quoting Bonedog:
glad everyone got the comedy =) I thought it might get lost in translation.


Bone we all know you need a shrink just like the rest of the 99% of us in here.....LOL
here's a bit of good news

Link

Breaking news oil has dipped to $50/barrel
20 Tampa
He's the man. Have 22 of his albums.
No spouse since 75, but my old Strat thumps that one out to the frogs,coyotes and hoot owls on ocassion.
Have "Wonderfull Tonight" in several versions.
His 24 Nights album performed before the Queen, by far is my favorite version.
33. TampaSpin

LOL your right ;)
Dr.Masters is there any correlation to the economy and weather as far as predictors?
Quoting theshepherd:
20 Tampa
He's the man. Have 22 of his albums.
No spouse since 75, but my old Strat thumps that one out to the frogs,coyotes and hoot owls on ocassion.
Have "Wonderfull Tonight" in several versions.
His 24 Nights album performed before the Queen, by far is my favorite version.


Sad that most people under 25 probably has never listened to this type of music little lonely Clapton. He is one of my all time favorites as well.
37. sporteguy03

if there is we are screwed
Bone all your AAAA in post 22 has streched the blog......lol
Quoting theshepherd:
20 Tampa
He's the man. Have 22 of his albums.
No spouse since 75, but my old Strat thumps that one out to the frogs,coyotes and hoot owls on ocassion.
Have "Wonderfull Tonight" in several versions.
His 24 Nights album performed before the Queen, by far is my favorite version.
If you haven't seen it alredy shepard, check his Crossroads Concert in Chicago last year on video. Probably the best group of Guitar players ever assembled in one place.
all fixed =)
38 Tampa
In an abstract kind of way, they have heard his licks and melodies.
I can hear them woven into some of the modern stuff.
I've always wished Bonnie Raitt would give her rendition of Wonderful Tonight. Her slide work stands alone in my book.
You guys are really bringing back the memories...can't tell you the hours I spent disecting his riffs when I was learning to play guitar. Slowhand has always been one of my top 3 guitarist. The others on the list might change but he's always there, and That song in particular brings back a lot of stuff...was always a great way to end a date night before heading home...
P.S.

Tim, Please pass Bone the meds...LOL
LOL just reading the local met office forecast discussions. All are talking about next weeks storm but all add the wording trending warmer. Yet every model run I can find shows us on the cold side. I guess they dont want to get the panic mode up and running yet.

You know first snow of the year would through my area into chaos as it usually does.
LOL Rob
41 keith
Already have it. Twin CD's. Some good stuff there, but a lot of showey stuff also. Everybody trying to outdo the last set.I much prefer studio work as a whole.
My bud down in Lauderdale has a super computer his nerd son built for him. A total pirate machine. He's given me stuff that will "unfortunately" not surface. Goes right over the average "modern" listner's head.
RE 32:

forgot to reread what was already posted earlier

sorry NE

it all makes sense now
Quoting Bonedog:
LOL just reading the local met office forecast discussions. All are talking about next weeks storm but all add the wording trending warmer. Yet every model run I can find shows us on the cold side. I guess they dont want to get the panic mode up and running yet.

You know first snow of the year would through my area into chaos as it usually does.


Yeh, and start the stampede for the shovels and snowblowers
8,037.18 +39.90 (+0.50%)

now its up

LOL
Bone this is for you.......LMAO

Quoting Hurricane4Lex:
RE 32:

forgot to reread what was already posted earlier

sorry NE

it all makes sense now


not a problem,lex,these things are good for a laugh
Tampa,
thanks for the Clapton break. Great tune to interject into the morning.
I saw another great guitarist last night, Vince Gill. He has a cold and joked about being unable to hit high notes with his voice, but it was a good show anyway. He didn't wail on the guitar like I have seen him wail before, because it was an acoustic show, but it was still fun. He is a pretty funny guy in addition to being such a talented musician.
=)


yea NE just thinking about too. HD and Lowes would be attacked.

IT crashed down from the heavens, lighting up the sky.

This picture, captured at Ballina on the Far North Coast, New South Wales, Australia,

Article from: The Daily Telegraph

Cheers AussieStorm
52 Tampa
ROFLMAO at the 70's era lefthanded neck on the right handed body. Gotta luv the Fender mentality.
awsome picture Aussie

you take it?
Wooly Bears? Blinding me with Science LOL

W/L mode
Quoting Bonedog:
awsome picture Aussie

you take it?

I wish... i could of taken sum last night at about 1am when we had a nice storm pass over.
still awsome nontheless.

I love weather photography especially lightning shots
It is awesome

anyone here know how to build a camera that's rigged to do that (take a picture like the one Aussie showed us)

I know some have done a "noise activated" type of camera
"Dr. Curran gave up the study in 1955 after finding two groups of caterpillars living near each other that had vastly different predictions for the upcoming winter"

hehe - sounds familiar...weather blogger caterpillars!
Quoting theshepherd:
Streamtracker
From last blog: Thanks for link to Argo Floats.
That answered my last question from yesterday's GW war.
Guess you just can't do better than sticking a thermometer in a bottle for reliability.
Old fashion ways "sometimes" rule.


No problem.

Nice catch there. Is that a snook? If it is that's an above average fish, isn't it?
63. Hurricane4Lex

most times the photographer leaves the shutter open for extended periods of time (30 sec to 1 min) depending on lighting and other conditions.
Thats why alot of times you have multiple bolts in one frame and, as the example above shows, an overexposure in the most intense light.

Some digital cameras have multiple frame settings that can take up to 10 frames a second. That is another way, when a bolt is noticed by the photographer he hits the shutter button and clicks off multiple frames and usually in one of them is the "shot".

I have heard of a person using a microphone attached to a shutter trigger but dont really know if it was a viable option.

The best photos I have seen and from some of the best weather photographers all used the extended exposure technique.
Quoting Hurricane4Lex:
us)

I know some have done a "noise activated" type of camera


Not for lightning, the light gets to the camera before the sound. You could do a time lapse and maybe get something...easiet way is high res video and then do frame captures to save the stills you want.
66. Bonedog

The best photos I have seen and from some of the best weather photographers all used the extended exposure technique.

good technique if your equiptment allows.
Last song......i played this to my son on the way to a Bucs game when he was 10 years old.....i had the sun roof open on the Caddy and cranked up the Bose system and told him to close his eyes and push the seat back.....LOL...he said "Dad that's the most awsome song i have ever heard"

Lex great website for weather photography

techniques
RE 66 67 68 and 70:

thanks :)
65 stream
Yep, that's a snookeroonie. 42"...
Not an unusual catch.
Keeper slot is 28 to 32 inches. Only caught one that small this year...so far.
Used to see a lot bigger when they were considered a trash fish.
Greetings all.

Fairly blustery here but not too bad, had a day to forget. :)
It looks like next weekends storm is going to hammer the midwest and east coast.....be prepared as this could be one we will talk about a long time.....The snow amounts could be record setting for this time of year....
69 Tampa
Good ol' Flarda boys
Gotta run....get some things done...gotta mow the grass....sorry to say that to you all up north.....LOL...BBL
74. TampaSpin

I hope so I hope so!

From your fingers to the snow God's ears
73. Cotillion

Hey!

sorry, was out listening to "Freebird"!

Seems all my memories are tied to song titles
Greetings.
Heavy cloud cover, rain is threatening. A tropical wave is overhead.
All is as it should be.......
Hey Pottery,

Looks like you're "surrounded"
yo pot
Yeah Rob. All 4 sides, top and bottom. But I am well armed for the impending onslaught. Got my Parasol all primed and ready. And a fridge filled with Vital Supplies, getting colder.
How is life with you ?
Hi Sheph.
My son-in-law is Sheppard. You guys probably have genetic resemblances.......
Pot, not like you to insult your family that way.
heheheheheh
Hey Pottery, Rob. :)
82. pottery

Everything's great man. Tim's musical suggestions got me primed this morning, and he also reminded me that I have things to do outside. Warming up nicely so I'm going out for a while before I end up with tunnels in my carpel!

Have a good one!
lunch break
Y'all should come in and say hi in the channel, watch the webcam at Portlight!
I am out till tonight.
Hopefully, one of you all can invent a topic to quarrel about then.
Caterpillars is not going to do it..........
Quoting pottery:
I am out till tonight.
Hopefully, one of you all can invent a topic to quarrel about then.
Caterpillars is not going to do it..........


No problem.

"Baseball is the worst sport ever invented." Discuss.

LOL
Quoting TampaSpin:
It looks like next weekends storm is going to hammer the midwest and east coast.....be prepared as this could be one we will talk about a long time.....The snow amounts could be record setting for this time of year....


Except for the great music,you've the bearer of bad news,cut it out
93. IKE
GM hits lowest price since Depression

Shares on the stock market.
Doh!

7,991.23 -6.05 (-0.08%)

back in the red
24. Hurricane4Lex RE 21: "what does meteors have to do with winter?

meteorology
Quoting aspectre:
24. Hurricane4Lex RE 21: "what does meteors have to do with winter?

meteorology


LOL!
8,007.55 +10.27 (+0.13%)


yay! (back in the green)

LOL
Instead of wasting space on the US economy I'm just going to say

red green red green red green red green.......then ________


(insert what you think it will be)

I'm off later every1
99. IKE
Quoting Hurricane4Lex:
Instead of wasting space on the US economy I'm just going to say

red green red green red green red green.......then ________


(insert what you think it will be)

I'm off later every1


At least it's an alternative to Global Warming.....
Quoting IKE:


At least it's an alternative to Global Warming.....


Way to go Ike, someone's gunna bring the two together now. :(

101. IKE
Quoting Cotillion:


Way to go Ike, someone's gunna bring the two together now. :(



I can think of one that might, but I better not name who, on here..lol.....
#72 nice snook
but the regulations are differnt depending on what coast u live on. i live on the gulf so our slot size is 28-33. atlantic and monroe county is 28-32.

check out the snook in my pic. i caught him in total freshwater last year about 30 miles inland from the gulf. measured 33 3/4 inches (caught him before the recent size limit change).

i know this cold spell here in fla is gonna shut down alot of the fishing for a few days. but on the bright side, the cooler temps make the pompano, trout, and mackeral bite better
What timing. LOL.

Link
Sorry, couldn't resist... it had just popped up as a headline on Drudge.
OK folks, get over to the Portlight webcam and watch StormJunkie put down at least 10 krystals for a $100 donation to the cause. More money, more Krystals. Get over and watch the fun at the next stop!!!!
Any of you dog lovers out there that want a quick giggle check the pic and post on my blog

hope you enjoy.
106 - Rob - ROFLMAO
Quoting RobDaHood:
Any of you dog lovers out there that want a quick giggle check the pic and post on my blog

hope you enjoy.


Rob,

Thats priceless,but don't think I'll share that with my wife,which is another reason guys like dogs,dogs think everything is amusing
Before any of the ladies get upset with me, My Mother sent me that list!

I'm just hoping that's not your hand!
Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)
Quoting Seastep:
I'm just hoping that's not your hand!


LOL, no! Girlfriend's hand. edit - moved comments to my blog
Quoting RobDaHood:
Any of you dog lovers out there that want a quick giggle check the pic and post on my blog

hope you enjoy.
RDH: That is hysterical and the dog is gorgeous!
Yes, very cute dog.
I never heard of them til I spent some years in WNC. Ours were a little more accurate but locals said you couldn't use just any woolly, only the ones all over the roads & driveways.
And cute hand. ;)
113. conchygirl

He is precious Conchy. Thanks everyone, any questions or comments I'll reply on my blog. I just don't want anyone getting upset with me for clogging up the works.
Being a dog lover,love to talk about them.Thats a goodlooking dog,and looks very intelligent.
Magnitude 5.0 - BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO


Quoting Seastep:
Sorry, couldn't resist... it had just popped up as a headline on Drudge.

You're gonna get a spankin' from "you know who"
;>)
Complete Blog Refresh
Mirror Site (New Format)
Looks like the east is gonna have a cold thanksgiving as an arctic ridge builds down to Florida(and a powerful Noreaster slams into the mid Atlantic and northeast with snow as far south as Georgia). First I thought it was a GFS glitch. But now it appears other models are starting to jump into the bandwagon.
Quoting RTLSNK:
106 - Rob - ROFLMAO


Hmm wonder is its worth the grief to email that to the wife at work :)
Quoting weatherbro:
Looks like the east is gonna have a cold thanksgiving as an arctic ridge builds down to Florida(and a powerful Noreaster slams into the mid Atlantic and northeast with snow as far south as Georgia). First I thought it was a GFS glitch. But now it appears other models are starting to jump into the bandwagon.


Your not making me feel good about this,they were leaning toward rain,but now trending colder,but still early,this time of year with the waters still relatively warm,track is ultra important
123
Check the cycle first.
123 - Orca - LOL - Your wife or mine?
LOL gotta get back to work!

see you folks later.
127 - Rob - Oh sure, give us all bad ideas and then run and hide! hahaha
Quoting RTLSNK:
123 - Orca - LOL - Your wife or mine?


OK, I mailed it anyway :)
Now it will probably end up at half the Gov Employees in town when she is finished.
128. RTLSNK

Okay, send her the link saying it a cute puppy picture and let her blame me....
I'm back and..........


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



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122
Yep, and if the model proves true throughout, it looks like the jet streak on the west side of the ridge still remaing over the Pacific could drive south and bring a suprise for SoCal the following days.
130 - Rob - LOL, after being married for 37 years, trust me, I fear nothing, I did however buy her a Remington Police Magnum 12 gauge shotgun for Christmas a few years back, I am a very well behaved husband!!
GOES WV Loop of the Tropical Basin Link

GOES-12 WV Loop w/Dry-Air Shaded Link
Watch Portlight to see SJ eat 16 burgers straight. :D
Dow Jones down over 280 points
FEWW New Hurricane Scale Makes Hurricane Classification More Meaningful!
Story: Link

FEWW New Hurricane Scale is based on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale and provides a more detailed definition of hurricane forces.

139. IKE
Look at a barrel of crude oil....OIL
4.68
-8.65%
$49.42


I filled up my car today at $1.95.9 per gallon and it only cost me $10 dollars!
Quoting Thundercloud01221991:
Dow Jones down over 280 points


now its

7,654.47 -342.81 (-4.29%)


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
141. IKE
Economy is just continuing to bomb.

Quoting IKE:
Look at a barrel of crude oil....OIL
4.68
-8.65%
$49.42


I filled up my car today at $1.95.9 per gallon and it only cost me $10 dollars!


that's the upside to all of this
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129 - Orca - Knew you were a risky kind of guy. I showed that to my wife years ago and she instantly turned it around and said, now see honey(remember that phrase guys, you are about to be conned into something), I have a cat, wouldn't you like to have a little adoring buddy all to yourself? She gave me a dog for Christmas, poor dog had no brain at all, but it was cute.
145. IKE
Quoting Hurricane4Lex:


that's the upside to all of this


Agree...it's helped me in my sales job. It's probably saved me between $150-$200 a month!
here's an opinion from WSJ


Link


the market today is doing a last minute drop

7,576.74 -420.54 (-5.26%)
(posted at 3:45)
147. IKE
Will there be anything left?

DOW
423.65
-5.30%
7,573.63
Are we a Brokerage Firm now on wu?

LOL
I invested in Fire to Keep the Hoards of Marauders off when the Crash comes IKE.


Fire iz Cheap and easy to Buy.

Wink,wink..

150. IKE
Quoting Patrap:
Are we a Brokerage Firm now on wu?

LOL


Just a bad economy right now. It's wearing and tearing on folks.
When it "Rains"..the "Song Remains the Same"....,too.Link

...Sup,Ike
I think we all know where the uncertainty is coming from.
Quoting RobDaHood:
Any of you dog lovers out there that want a quick giggle check the pic and post on my blog

hope you enjoy.


LMAO.
Let's hope we don't repeat the mistakes of the past.

Link
155. beell
So where would Ike fit in that scale Pat?
Final
7,557.70 -439.58 (-5.50%)


Quoting beell:
So where would Ike fit in that scale Pat?



Would have to Pull up the IKE NOAA specific's on Him..but I class these Late Season Cape Verde Systems a lil different than the SS scale already myself,and lean more to the Surge Potential as a whole for these GOM CV Large Canes.
158. IKE
Quoting Patrap:
When it "Rains"..the "Song Remains the Same"....,too.Link

...Sup,Ike


Enjoying a 70 degree afternoon before winter returns starting tonight with another Alberta clipper.
159. IKE
Here's my forecast for tomorrow night...inland Florida panhandle....


Friday Night
Clear and cold with near record low temperatures. Lows 20 to 25 inland...around 32 at the coast. Northeast winds 5 mph or less.
These Dry re-enforcing Fronts are showing a Pattern usually seen about 4 weeks later IKE.
Really chilling down again tonight here and tomorrow and another front this weekend.

Long John weather.

158. IKE

I don't know about you Ike but I'm about sick of the cold already and it's not even winter yet. Tomorrow looks to be a cold, raw and windy day here in PCB.
Seems like Dr Masters had Ike around 5.6 on the IKE scale and Katrina 5.2.
163. IKE
Quoting Patrap:
These Dry re-enforcing Fronts are showing a Pattern usually seen about 4 weeks later IKE.
Really chilling down again tonight here and tomorrow and another front this weekend.

Long John weather.



Agree...and the pattern appears to continue to hold....long-term from Tallahassee,FL....

LONG TERM...
(SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY) STILL NO END IN SIGHT TO THE
CURRENT LARGE SCALE WESTERN RIDGE/EASTERN TROUGH CONFIGURATION.
A BRIEF WARM UP SUNDAY AND MONDAY WILL BE FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER
COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. GUIDANCE SLOWLY
BACKING OFF ON PRECIP CHANCES WITH THIS FRONT...BUT WILL KEEP 20
PERCENT IN FOR NOW. COOL HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN ONCE AGAIN
BEHIND THIS FRONT.
159 - IKE

I feel for ya. My forecast for the next 5 days... sunny, mid to upper 70s for highs and 60 for lows. :)
Although it was freezing (relatively speaking) last night. ;)
166. IKE
Quoting captainhunter:
158. IKE

I don't know about you Ike but I'm about sick of the cold already and it's not even winter yet. Tomorrow looks to be a cold, raw and windy day here in PCB.


I don't miss the humidity, but...yeah, after awhile spring and warmer weather sounds nice.
Lake Pontchartrain is still warm enough to keep the South Shore above freezing.
But as that Lake cools faster,the warming will decrease and ,well..were getting colder S Shore morning Temps already.

Tonight
Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 40s. North winds 10 to 20 mph with higher gusts.
sunny
Friday
Sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Cooler. Highs in the upper 50s. Northeast winds 10 to 20 mph with higher gusts.
168. beell
157.
Rough approximation?
At least for the Texas coast,
15'/4.6m on the surge.
110mph/95 knots on the wind.
While in Texas 12 Days Post Ike ..Down in Lower Chambers County in the Rural areas,Like Double Bayou and Anahuac,I was still amazed to see that surge Plow 6 Miles inland.
Was really some grim footage of a all too familiar scene.
170. IKE
Afternoon discussion from Birmingham,AL....

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL
222 PM CST THU NOV 20 2008

.DISCUSSION...

A DRY COLD FRONT IS SET TO PUSH THROUGH THE REGION OVERNIGHT TONIGHT
AND INTO FRIDAY MORNING...BRINGING ANOTHER ROUND OF DRY AND COLD AIR
TO THE AREA. MOSS TEMPS FOR FRIDAY MORNING STILL COMING IN AROUND 30
DEGREES...BUT THE BOUNDARY LAYER SHOULD MIX OUT WELL...SO DECIDED TO
GO WITH LOW TO MID 30S. HIGHS ON FRIDAY WILL BE WELL BELOW
AVERAGE...AND LOWS SATURDAY MORNING COULD DIP INTO THE TEENS ACROSS
THE NORTH. DEW POINTS WILL DROP OFF SIGNIFICANTLY BEHIND THIS
FRONT...CREATING A POSSIBLE FIRE DANGER SATURDAY AFTERNOON.

THE MODELS ARE SHOWING ANOTHER COLD FRONT MOVING THROUGH ON MONDAY
AND EXITING THE AREA BY MIDNIGHT TUESDAY NIGHT. RETURN FLOW WILL SET
UP ON MONDAY OUT AHEAD OF THE FRONT BRINGING A SURGE OF MOISTURE
INTO CENTRAL ALABAMA. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST SHOT AT RAIN THE STATE
HAS SEEN IN SEVERAL DAYS.

SKIES WILL BE MOSTLY CLEAR ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WITH
TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL...AND THANKSGIVING DAY APPEARS TO
BE SHAPING UP NICELY FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE TRAVELING FOR THE
HOLIDAY.
10-day forcast for West Palm Beach has lows in the 40's for three-straight days next week. I can't remember the last time that happened. (If it holds true, which it usually doesn't)
171
After climatized to your normal weather, that's pretty darn cold. Specially since the wind never,not ever, stops blowing.
no end in sight for this midwinter pattern
174. P451
Woolley Bears say mild winter?

So far it would appear they're dead wrong then.

It's been much colder than it has in the past three years through fall here in New Jersey. The leaves have fallen several weeks earlier than they had the last three years. We've already had 3 snow squalls and last year we did not get our first until January.

It's been a persistent cool weather pattern not a two day thing that then bounces back.

My herb garden all flowered early this summer and stopped producing early this summer. Other flowering plants all finished their cycle much earlier than usual.

I am in the firm belief that this will be at least a "normal" winter for my New Jersey and maybe even a slight bit cooler than normal.

The past three years have been way above normal and that's clearly about to change.

So, somebody start stepping on the caterpillars, cause they are wrong.
I'm sold on a long cold November, but I'm not sold "yet" on a long cold winter.
64.9 °F / 18.3 °C
Clear
Humidity: 34%
Dew Point: 36 °F / 2 °C
Wind: 0.0 mph / 0 km/h
Wind Gust: 4.0 mph / 6 km/h
Pressure: 29.97 in / 1014.8 hPa (Falling)
Visibility: 10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers
UV: 1 out of 16
Clouds:
Clear -
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 68 ft / 20 m
177. P451
Quoting theshepherd:
I'm sold on a long cold November, but I'm not sold "yet" on a long cold winter.


True, things have changed in the past after an initial cold "snap". Yet, there is just something about this late summer and fall....that if you work with animals or plants...and are just outside in general...something different from the past three years (warm three years) seems to be brewing. Something that reminds you of a harbinger of things to come - that thing to come - being cold and stormy.

We'll see, Weather has always been a fluid entity not a static one, so you never know, but a number of signs are there that - at the very least - the Mid Atlantic, North East, and Ohio Valley/Great Lakes region seem poised for a "classic winter" if you will.

Quoting P451:
Woolley Bears say mild winter?

So far it would appear they're dead wrong then.

It's been much colder than it has in the past three years through fall here in New Jersey. The leaves have fallen several weeks earlier than they had the last three years. We've already had 3 snow squalls and last year we did not get our first until January.

It's been a persistent cool weather pattern not a two day thing that then bounces back.

My herb garden all flowered early this summer and stopped producing early this summer. Other flowering plants all finished their cycle much earlier than usual.

I am in the firm belief that this will be at least a "normal" winter for my New Jersey and maybe even a slight bit cooler than normal.

The past three years have been way above normal and that's clearly about to change.

So, somebody start stepping on the caterpillars, cause they are wrong.

Dead wrong here too in VA already got flurries and frost not to mention below freezing temperature every night
179. P451
Amazing long Lake Effect Snow streamer!

From Erie Pennsylvania to Cherry Hill, NJ!

Captured Image:



Live Image:

Link
180. kdav
so tonights game in pitt will be snowy. too bad no one will watch lol.
181. P451
OFF-TOPIC - but, has been discussed plenty before!


Anyone watching the night sky these days... Surfmom?

Wow, Venus is HUGE now in the southwest evening sky (530pm) with Jupiter up to it's left at 10:30 if you will.

Meanwhile the "Summer Triangle" is still visible once the sun sets. Your brightest star straight up to the west is Vega, to it's "east" is Deneb (almost right over your head), and the triangle concludes to the South with Altair.

Other than that it's nice to see come around 11pm that Orion is in the south sky - that is one hell of a display! Some of the most gigantic visible stars of the heavens are starting to pop up with Orion and to it's "east" in the sky.

Can't wait until a crystal clear freezing cold February Evening. When come 6PM everything is just bright as can be.

I think, for the first time in several years, given the weather pattern, I'm going to get one of those 10 degree or colder nights!

182. P451
Quoting all4hurricanes:

Dead wrong here too in VA already got flurries and frost not to mention below freezing temperature every night


I hear ya, so even a good 300-odd-miles south-south west of me in central Jersey, you've seen the same things.

I've been missing a good winter. I always like a good winter. The storms, for some reason I actually LIKE shoveling snow! (good thing, one next door neighbor has had several heart attacks and cant do it.... another is a widow who of course cant do it.. so I'm always out there doing 3x my part!)

And, for nature's cause... too many weeds, and, too many bugs... have lived through winter the past three years that NEVER should where I live!

We need a good old cleansing! Badly!!!
Good evening all.....been Christmas Decor shopping all afternoon.....im dead tired running from one retailer to another.....LOL
Amazing to be middle of November to look like this.....

Quoting IKE:


I don't miss the humidity, but...yeah, after awhile spring and warmer weather sounds nice.
No need for AC in the car.
All I know is I am sick of this cold weather here in Jacksonville, FL. This is pretty unusual for our area to have the cool weather like this for such a long duration. Thee is no clear end in sight either for temps will stay that way for the next 5 days.

I passed a decent sized retention pond this morning that was forming a little bit of ice! It's been quite a while since I have seen something like that here.
Quoting conchygirl:
That wooley bear is a cute little insect. Very interesting. Thanks!
OSC!
Wow, Tampa!

It looks pretty miserable in KY right now.
Quoting afcjags03:
All I know is I am sick of this cold weather here in Jacksonville, FL. This is pretty unusual for our area to have the cool weather like this for such a long duration. Thee is no clear end in sight either for temps will stay that way for the next 5 days.

I passed a decent sized retention pond this morning that was forming a little bit of ice! It's been quite a while since I have seen something like that here.
Al Gore calls it GLOBAL WARMING>
182 P451
Carefull what you wish for.
It doesn't take blizzards to kill bugs.
After OPEC's next meeting this month and they cut production, you may not welcome your heating bill. LOL
Quoting ILwatcher:
Wow, Tampa!

It looks pretty miserable in KY right now.


Ya it does.....just spoke to my family in Indiana it is down right miserable up there and been that way now about 5 days.....that does not happen very often up there to be that cold and snowy this time of year.
Quoting Patrap:
When it "Rains"..the "Song Remains the Same"....,too.Link

...Sup,Ike
IKE KNOWS THIS SONG.
Quoting Patrap:
When it "Rains"..the "Song Remains the Same"....,too.Link

...Sup,Ike
IKE
Quoting P451:


True, things have changed in the past after an initial cold "snap". Yet, there is just something about this late summer and fall....that if you work with animals or plants...and are just outside in general...something different from the past three years (warm three years) seems to be brewing. Something that reminds you of a harbinger of things to come - that thing to come - being cold and stormy.

We'll see, Weather has always been a fluid entity not a static one, so you never know, but a number of signs are there that - at the very least - the Mid Atlantic, North East, and Ohio Valley/Great Lakes region seem poised for a "classic winter" if you will.

imo temps much below normal till early jan with half the total snow amounts for last winter occuring this winter colder means drier the farther below zero the drier the closer to freezing point wetter except over bodies of water down wind of the west north west north flows
Well STL's rant about GW yesterday got him banned....Not that surprising due to the fact he would put you on ignore and call you stupid if you disagreed with him.
194 keeper
Help me out here amigo.
Can you direct me to a site that can vindicate predictions this far in advance?
I've seen hurricane predictions this far in advance as somewhat dubious.
Not being a smartycat, just trying to learn a thing or two.
Suprising what I've taken in and digested after yesterday's war. Darn near a "convert" to that "word I shall not mention" LOL
Banned on the Run...Link

...reloaded,High Quality
Kinda does feel like a land of ice and snow....Link
195
Don't feel like the long ranger. He banned me from his blog after one converstaion when I spanked him for calling everyone an idiot. LOL

LOL

Life is too short.

STL is a Good Guy,..he just has er,lesser Social Skills.
Like a Porcupine,one could say.
Quoting theshepherd:
195
Don't feel like the long ranger. He banned me from his blog after one converstaion when I spanked him for calling everyone an idiot. LOL


LOL...Well hopefully he'll learn his lesson. Hes not very good at having a discussion over that kind of stuff.
Quoting Patrap:
At least you didnt get a Poop sandwich in wu-mail Like I did.


LOL

Life is too short.

STL is a Good Guy,..he just has er,lesser Social Skills.
Like a Porcupine,one could say.


LOL...Thats a good way to put it.
Washington State Mt.St Helen's Eruption with the Expanding Plume visible from Orbit, 36 minutes Post Eruption

197 pat
Excellant. Too bad the "youngins" wern't there to experience the Beatles and the others in "THE BEGINING".
By the way, have you ever heard Paul solo on a six string? He is a master. Same goes for Stevie Nix's lead.
Too many unsungs to mention...lol
Makes me smile every time I see this....Link
Footage of The Beatles in New Orleans 1964 Link

204. theshepherd 6:32 PM CST on November 20, 2008
197 pat
Excellant. Too bad the "youngins" wern't there to experience the Beatles and the others in "THE BEGINING".
By the way, have you ever heard Paul solo on a six string? He is a master. Same goes for Stevie Nix's lead.
Too many unsungs to mention...lol



Son is 15 turning 16 and a Guitar Gifted soul.

He has a hamer,a sweet Ibanez,..a Fender, a Shecter,plus plays Trumpet for High School at Jesuit here.
Freshman.
Hes into 60-70 Rock and collecting vinyl Like GM stock
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


LOL...Well hopefully he'll learn his lesson. Hes not very good at having a discussion over that kind of stuff.

Big Ditto here. And it's a shame. He's seems to be a very smart fella with a lot to offer.
I've found,in 32 years of construction, that if you pick a man back off the ground after you've beat him down and "then" bring him back into the fold, that you have a far superior individual.
Humility, if survived and accepted, is the most powerful virtue.
I would warmheartingly support bringing him back.
Any comments ?
Evening all. Its "back-in-times" night ? Great !
Fortunately, I am a competent guitarist, from the "good music " days.
Turned my son, then my son-in-law, on to the real music. Have to admit, they are way better than me. Both guitarists! Great harmony, and my daughter has an incredible voice. Their renditions of "Feed your Head","Tambourine Man", and several Beatles and Simon&Garfunkel "the Sparrow" Etc are worth money I keep telling them.
love the cold weather here in west palm!!!! as long as no crop destroying freezes...i could live with this!
I Have no problem with brining back STL. But then, I dont rush the bait like some hot-heads here do.
He has plenty weather-lore to offer.
hi patrap...could u please e me step by step instructions for posting you tubes videos on here? easy for a novice to understand?
207 pat
Outstanding. Wait till he finds Big Bill Brunsy from the 20's.
In 1960 when I was 10, my dad passed and the old black man,who I dearly loved, that cooked in our family restaurant, talked my mom into buying me my first guitar. He said "Ola, that boy got the blues"...My first song was "Nobody knows you when you're down and out"...Hell, I've been blues ever since. Clapton is my teacher now...Thank you for supporting your son's talent ...peace and karma to you and all you love... LOL
I encourage all to nurture the Musical,gifted or not. It expands the mind.
And studies show most children who are learned in a Instrument and Plays regularly have Higher overall academic success as well.
michael's opinion didn't get him banned...it was his choice words for those who disagreed with him.
Been Lucky enuf to see many of the Greats here.

Had a sit down lunch with Fats Domino and shared a Heineken with Him and Dr.John,many moons ago during a Stage Job.
Jr at the Neutral Ground Link Here on Sunday Open Mike Night.Link

With the Hamer Detroit Brooks gave Him after Jazz Camp at Newman High.
Eli's and Peyton Manning High School.
Pottery
Oh no, surely I did not just hear you say you play guitar. That makes me want to pack up the old Ovation Master Classical and head to the bamboo forest for a little "slow thump blues".
Hey, we should really start "The WUBA Band".
My only brush with the big dogs was to share a grouper sandwich with Buffett down in Lauderdale. What a hoot.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
michael's opinion didn't get him banned...it was his choice words for those who disagreed with him.


I know that....Its the way he disagrees with people that got him banned.
LOL, son had an Ovation. Sold it just recently. I play an Alhambra flamenco. Son in law has a collection of stuff.
I like the Flamenco guitar for its volume and hard action.
But these days I am sorely out of touch......
American Pie
By Don McLean

A long, long time ago I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And maybe they'd be happy for a while.


In case you missed it WUBA is WeatherUndergroundBloggersAnnonymous. For the addicts among us....
One from da Vault..
Plant,Page,Jones(Bass) Neil Young.

When The Levee Breaks Link
221. Stormchaser2007 8:11 PM EST on November 20, 2008
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
michael's opinion didn't get him banned...it was his choice words for those who disagreed with him.

I know that....Its the way he disagrees with people that got him banned.

I just said that.
219 pot
Hey, I'm with you bro spirit...snap a C bass,pull three and thump four and let's get it on ;>)
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
221. Stormchaser2007 8:11 PM EST on November 20, 2008
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
michael's opinion didn't get him banned...it was his choice words for those who disagreed with him.

I know that....Its the way he disagrees with people that got him banned.

I just said that.


LOL....I know. I was just saying that I knew why he was banned.
OK, here's the deal. Sunday, Nov. 30. Here at my house.
Its Pots annual Parang Party.
Bring your own drinks, food is supplied.
8:00pm till......

Parang is the music we do locally at Christmas time. Comes from Venezuela. Giutars, Quatros (a 4 string, like a ukele), Mandolines, Box bass. Women vocals. Plenty maracas, tambourine, bongo percussion. The band is about 12 strong.
Parang music celebrates The Birth of the Prince of Peace,
, his Mother, Maria, and is fast, harmonious, and you have to be able to dance Castillian at a clip.

All are invited.
216 pat
Yeah, go ahead and stick your finger in my eye LOL...You live at ground zero
#179p451 -- that lake effect is very fun to watch --as long as it's not coming my way.
Shepherd -- THANK YOU!!!

TampaSpin - someone -- make it warm... although the performance of the horses in game today was terrific. It's clear that one of the bunch just does not do well in the humidity -- today he was perfectly behaved -- fast and very handy
Gotcha Stormchaser..do you think this cold spell is long term trend or just an anomaly?
Quoting theshepherd:
219 pot
Hey, I'm with you bro spirit...snap a C bass,pull three and thump four and let's get it on ;>)
woooohoooo yeah BABY!!
I would have given ANYTHING to have met Fats Domino..............
Nice, Pat.
229 -- I'm really thinking I live in the wrong neighborhood Pottery -- great diseases, good rum, NO wetsuits, what am I doing in the land of Mall Queens???
Some more Lightning pics from the past week of storms around Australia


Cheers AussieStorm
LOL MOM. We even have Malls too.......
Quoting pottery:
In case you missed it WUBA is WeatherUndergroundBloggersAnnonymous. For the addicts among us....
WOW, Great images Aussie. Very nice.
Quoting pottery:
LOL MOM. We even have Malls too.......
nooooooo - seriously.....??? ( I use to be one of those -- then I had boys & life changed... for me it was for the better)
212. GeoffreyWPB 7:58 PM EST on November 20, 2008
hi patrap...could u please e me step by step instructions for posting you tubes videos on here? easy for a novice to understand?

Guess i asked a busy or uninterested person...if anyone can help...would greatly appreciate....
Hi Surfmom, how's it hang--- Oops, been talking music with the guys and drinking rum. Need to make the transgender thingy here.
Fats is Doing OK.His House is Rebuilt in the 9th Ward and he did that Tribute CD ,or it was done for Him last SUmmer.Plant,Krauss..other Stars on it too.Link

Icons from the world of rock, blues, reggae, pop and country music have joined together to salute the genius of legendary piano man FATS DOMINO for the upcoming double CD set, Goin' Home: A Tribute to Fats Domino.

Goin' Home is set for a September 25th release on Vanguard Records. This stellar tribute to one of the cornerstones of rock n' roll music will help raise desperately needed funds specifically earmarked for instruments to be donated to New Orleans' public school children.

Monies raised from the sales of Goin' Home will also go toward Domino's neighborhood by creating a community center in the Crescent City's still ravaged Lower 9th Ward. Proceeds of Goin' Home will fund additional community related programs.

The Tipitina's Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation dedicated to preserving the cultural legacy of New Orleans through music education for the youth and providing programs that support working musicians of New Orleans and the Gulf Region, conceived and executive produced Goin' Home.

The roster of music royalty contributing their interpretations of classic Fats Domino songs include: Sir Elton John (Blueberry Hill), Sir Paul McCartney (I Want To Walk You Home), Tom Petty (I'm Walkin'), Robert Plant (It Keeps Rainin'), Willie Nelson (I Hear You Knockin'), B.B. King (Goin' Home) and Neil Young (Walkin' To New Orleans).

Goin' Home will also feature the late John Lennon's version of Fats' most popular song, "Ain't That A Shame."

In addition, some of modern music's most prolific artists have contributed their time and talent including Lenny Kravitz, Norah Jones, Lucinda Williams, Ben Harper with The Skatalites, Toots and The Maytals, Taj Mahal, Herbie Hancock and Bonnie Raitt.

Up and coming stars such as Marc Broussard with Sam Bush, Corrine Bailey Rae and Joss Stone with blues master Buddy Guy have recorded their renditions for this unique compilation.

The participation of some of New Orleans' greatest musicians has been paramount in the process of recording of Goin' Home. Dr. John, Art Neville, Allen Toussaint, Irma Thomas, Marcia Ball, Preservation Hall Jazz Band, Ivan Neville's Dumpstaphunk, Galactic, Walter "Wolfman" Washington, Theresa Andersson, The Dirty Dozen Brass Band, The Rebirth Brass Band and NOLA funk masters George Porter Jr., Zigaboo Modeliste, Leo Nocentelli and Henry Butler.

Goin' Home is the brainchild of Tipitina's Foundation executive director Bill Taylor. "The idea came to me last September when I was trying to come up with a way to thank Fats for donating the proceeds of his last recording, Alive and Kickin' to our Foundation. I also wanted to create a project that could shine the spotlight on our city's unique music culture".

Kevin Welk, President and General Manager of The Welk Music Group stated, "We feel privileged to be involved in such a worthy project. Not only is this a great cause, it continues to raise awareness to a great city that needs all of our support."


Fats Being Rescued Post Katrina in the 9th Ward.

TampaSpin 6:58 PM EST on November 20, 2008
Quoting surfmom:
Was reading last night's posts this morning.... new vocab word - What is a "clipper" in regards to weather??? Thanks


An Alberta Clipper is a term used for a Small piece of energy (low) that spins out of Alberta Canada area and moves south into the Midwest and East coast very quickly dumping usually lite snow in the areas. It usually goes rides the dipp in the jet stream.

Heavy rain now, in Caracas Venezuela.
Press. 1008
Humidity 98%
Temp 68F

Sounds bleak there....
To post a Youtube do this..

Select the one you want.
Then use the EMBED url in the Middle on the right.
Then paste directly into the comment section,bypassing the image button.
For a Full Embed.


For a Link..use the top URL on the top of the Page,copy.
Then use the comment LINK button and paste.
Post comment.
Try it in preview a few times.
Geeze - now that's lightening - fab pic Aussie

Ok I am calling it early today -- I am having trouble sitting on my butt LOL -- rode too much, jockey position is hell after two laps.

Just want to sleep..so I can get up and repeat LOL
See you all in the morning
Quoting theshepherd:

Big Ditto here. And it's a shame. He's seems to be a very smart fella with a lot to offer.
I've found,in 32 years of construction, that if you pick a man back off the ground after you've beat him down and "then" bring him back into the fold, that you have a far superior individual.
Humility, if survived and accepted, is the most powerful virtue.
I would warmheartingly support bringing him back.
Any comments ?
you are a mensch!! : )
caught that Tampa -- Thanks I got it for my book ! I'm out
ALso on the RIGHT side of THIS page see this:

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What's a "mensch" ??
Mensch (Yiddish: מענטש mentsh) means "a person of integrity and honor"[1]. The direct opposite of a Mensch is an Unmensch (meaning: an utterly cruel or evil person). According to Leo Rosten, the Yiddish maven and author of The Joys of Yiddish, mensch is "someone to admire and emulate, someone of noble character. The key to being “a real mensch” is nothing less than character, rectitude, dignity, a sense of what is right, responsible, decorous"[2].
give it a try..

243 pat
I'm all in for that. I see even my girlfriend Bonnie Raitt,the queen of blues guitar, is on the agenda.
Too bad Ray Charles passed and couldn't be there.
heard a rumor she was at one of Pottery's party during her career....
Im a Xmas Sap..Love the Old ones,from That to Bing..Burl Ives Silver and Gold ,my fav though.
thanks pat
Pat, Mensch, Thanks.
Im sure Ray has a good table up front upstairs with dem angels and a Nightly Gig..
Nite Surfmom

Hey guys!

Shep, I have no beef with STL. He put me on ignore for saying your post contained some good points, and he is a little condecending, but If he could get over thinking anyone who disagrees with him is a troll, then no problem.
Pottery,

Keepin your head above water?
Hey, I'm up for drummin or singin
Sounds like a good time.
Anytime for help..
Were all about that here.
from canes to People. Its a fine site and is always changing,for the better hopefully.Was a Long Powerful Season and now we can reflect back and see that we did some good.


LOL Pat. Burl Ives..

The moon is high
and so am I
the stars are out
and so will I be
Pretty soon

and I can tell
you're mad at me
you stand there
tellin'me
goodbye

But I say no
you cant go
I love you so much
I cant let you get away

come the dawn
it will dawn
on me,
you're gone.........etc.

Yeah...Ray, Stevie Ray, Big Bill Brunsy, Sony Terry and Brownie Magee...the list goes on...Oh yeah, and Ernest Cooly, that's the old black gentleman that taught me guitar. Not that I'm ready to move on, but it will be righteous to see those ol' boys one day.
Many of us during the busy time were afraid to ask how to post pics...sat. loops..links..you tube stuff..nice to ask that stuff now and learn while it is slow..
One can ask me anything anytime,
Use the wu-mail system if its busy.
I always answer,maybe not right away ,but I always respond.
yikes...gov. palin pardons thanksgiving turkey while turkies being killed behind her...uggggg
264. GeoffreyWPB

Geoffrey, I'm a bit of a computer geek, (pays the bills) so if I can ever help with anything, feel free to WUmail me
Bad Editing or Bad camera work there,..eh?

Maybe She needs Joe the Turkey Slayer..LOL
Did anyone see ColdPlay on the Colbert Report?
Yeah Rob. Dried out a bit today. The rains fell all around me.
The City is a complete mess. Cars washed away, roads and bridges gone awol, etc. 2 fatalities from mud slides, in different areas.

Mensch????
Pot, does that mean I have to stop drinkin' and insulting anarchists???
Bad Rain Mojo Pottery,..sad to hear that.
thank you rob...and yes pat, bad camera angle or timing..i thnk so....famous question...would u eat sausage if you saw how it was made????
269 pat
Nope, that's my O'reilly hour. I'll catch the rerun later. Colbert is a riot for sure.
Im a Cajun ,,we eat anything that makes a sound or has eyes.

Ever eaten Hogs-Head cheese or Boudin Sausage,Smoked Sausage or Alligator Sausage?..Ayyyyyyeeeeee,Cher!

The trick is having the right amount of lean meat to fat and proper seasonings. We do Sausage big time.
LOL Sheph.
If you do either of those 2 things, you will lose friends here, and find yourself becoming morbid and maudlin.
Its is not recommended at all. We will try to continue to put up with you, in your present manifestation.
270. pottery

just popped out for a look at WVLoop not pretty. Area may be beginning to dry up a bit but still a lot of convection to your south...still trying to send positive thoughs your way, very extended range, but trying my friend!
259 rob
Thanx, you took one for the team.
I'd still like to turn it all around and start over. As in "fo-get aboud it"
Thanks Pat.
Rob, that convection may just stay south for a while. Hope so anyway.
Although Caracas is under heavy manners right now
276. pottery

well, at least we can all agree on the music - LOL
Hoghead cheese...you betcha.
Sauteed gator is by far my favorite.
278. theshepherd

Hey, I can be intimidating & mean if I have to be, but I'm much happier playing the nice guy.

I'm all about 2nd chances.
276
thanx pot
I was worried there for a minute.
Whew...I'll drink to that lol
Going to be a tough Sunday thru Thursday here. We Have the Po-Boy Festival Sunday,The Saints on MNF in the Dome..then Thursday Turkey Oyster Rockerfeller day,..
Im stuffed already,PHEW,..LOL

www.poboyfest.com Link

The 2008 New Orleans Po-Boy Preservation Festival will feature:

* live music on two stages
* over 60 of New Orleans' best-known artists offering unique artwork
* family-friendly events such as a childrens section with games and prizes, po-boy photo booth, silent auction, and panel discussions covering the history of the po-boy (starting at 11:00 a.m.)
* and, of course, the best tasting po-boys in New Orleans


Volunteers Needed

Help get NOLA fired up at the 2008 Po-Boy Fest! Sign up now to volunteer at the festival Link
thanx rob
peace and karma bro
would like e mailed to me the best cornbread and sausage stuffing recipe you have?
Been fun chat folks.
Im gonna go absorb my Sofa and some DVR .
Catch ya'll tomorrow.

Blog Safe,..have a designated Blogger drive ya home if need be,ya dont want a BUI !

Blogging Under Idiocy.
Yah, Pat. That sounds like a GOOD time there.
I been wanting to come to NO for years.
One day........
284. Patrap

Thanks for the info, so wish that I could go!

Shepherd - peace and karma - I've always sensed that from you...that's why I like you!

You to pot, well, that and the fact that I've got to have someone to drink this rum with!
Use the Oyster dressing here and you'll never use cornbread again...

Sorry ,reloaded here> Link
291. DDR
Quoting pottery:
Thanks Pat.
Rob, that convection may just stay south for a while. Hope so anyway.
Although Caracas is under heavy manners right now

Hi pottery,you should take a look @ the Infrared images,some showers are headed our way,i need it,i've been a dry spot for a couple days now.
I just updated my Weather Blog if anyone would like to review......

TampaSpins Weather Blog Link
Hi Tampa!

Does anybody else ever hit post here and get wisked away to Dr. M's photo page? Wierd, happens at least once a day to me.
Hi DDR. I was wondering how you made out this week. Dry Spot ??
Strange. Intense rain, but very localised. This evening there was plenty flashing going on south and west of me. And it was cloudy all day. But no rain.
Any idea how many inches fell in those flooded areas on Tuesday ?
Quoting RobDaHood:
Hi Tampa!

Does anybody else ever hit post here and get wisked away to Dr. M's photo page? Wierd, happens at least once a day to me.


Ya it does it to me also but, it usually happens on about the 50th posting donomations it seems..
Rob, 293. Happens to me too.......
evening
Hi Guys - did someone mention woolly bear caterpillars? I love caterpillars, but if you guys ate all the woolly bears I might be interested in some of that sausage that Pat was talking about. Hey, have you guys seen a friend of mine? RobinHood, you know, the guy with the wolf dog. I liked the look of that wolf, he was hairier than me! Listen, I have to run now, RTLR is coming back and he told me when he saw me in his garage this morning he was going to take me out. I wonder if that means outside?
Hi Hurristat. Where are you ?
Quoting pottery:
Rob, 293. Happens to me too.......

Me three

I can't help noticing a blob in the southern Caribbean that hasn't moved in a few days could it form?
hurristat

wondered where you've been. afraid you might have frozen. Pop over and look at my blog when you get a chance...something for a young man like you to consider. LOL
298. RTLSNK

What the ???? LMAO
delete

Quoting theshepherd:
197 pat
Excellant. Too bad the "youngins" wern't there to experience the Beatles and the others in "THE BEGINING".
By the way, have you ever heard Paul solo on a six string? He is a master. Same goes for Stevie Nix's lead.
Too many unsungs to mention...lol


Heard all the songs though. The Chain by Fleetwood Mac is a classic. Sorry, I always go through the previous posts.
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Rob - I had a great new photo that Beachfoxx sent of a huge wolf spider today, so I invented that whole skit about the woolly bears to go along with the photo and I can't get the dumb thing to download.
Come ON, RTL. We are in suspense here. Tenter hooks even.
need link instructions!!!!
Quoting Patrap:
Mensch (Yiddish: מענטש mentsh) means "a person of integrity and honor"[1]. The direct opposite of a Mensch is an Unmensch (meaning: an utterly cruel or evil person). According to Leo Rosten, the Yiddish maven and author of The Joys of Yiddish, mensch is "someone to admire and emulate, someone of noble character. The key to being “a real mensch” is nothing less than character, rectitude, dignity, a sense of what is right, responsible, decorous"[2].


That was one of the words when I was playing the original Balderdash game. OMG
yikes..sorry
brr cold lol
Incredible tornado video

Quoting pottery:
Hi Hurristat. Where are you ?


Im in SE MI. At least I dont live in W MI. They have 9 INCHES OF SNOW!!!
Quoting RobDaHood:
hurristat

wondered where you've been. afraid you might have frozen. Pop over and look at my blog when you get a chance...something for a young man like you to consider. LOL


LOL... ya I have about an inch of snow... yay
308. RTLSNK

ROFLMAO - Thought that sounded like the spider talking, either that or you got some bad drugs - same effect either way as I'm laughing so hard I can hardly type.
g'day eveyone, just checking in,
293 rob
You done got bubble neuculated
Hi all, Taking a break from packing.....hard work, you know. LOL! Hardest part is the one suitcase per passenger. Shipped the dive gear (save for the masks and regs)to Duck Key, so that's not a worry. Hope the weather is warmer than here. 37 degrees low tonight, 30 tomorrow.
Quoting sugarsand:
Hi all, Taking a break from packing.....hard work, you know. LOL! Hardest part is the one suitcase per passenger. Shipped the dive gear (save for the masks and regs)to Duck Key, so that's not a worry. Hope the weather is warmer than here. 37 degrees low tonight, 30 tomorrow.


that actually sounds warm... OMG!! LOL JK

wow three internetisms in one post
305 Hur
Por nada...grab a rum and belly up.
307. TampaSpin 9:40 PM EST on November 20, 2008
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
please visit http://www.jacquielawson.com


Just to let you know, you cannot post what you just posted as you will get banned for life for that.......

Yikes..how do you just post a regualr link to wish everyone a happy thanksgiving? or is that against the rules?



Quoting theshepherd:
293 rob
You done got bubble neuculated


Oh, okay, so in an alternative timeline my browser is working perfectly, RTLSNK's spider uploads as planned, and we all get free rum!
322 Hurristat But I live in Florida, in the NW part of the state. We're not supposed to be cold in Nov!
pat taught me how to post a you tube video...now do you post a regular link?
I give up, will go read those instructions on photos and links again. You can see that monster on Orca's blog, post 146, or just google the words "wolf spider" and click on the monster on the left side of the screen.LOL
Free Rum ?? Where? Did I doze off? What is happening?
LOL
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
pat taught me how to post a you tube video...now do you post a regular link?


Copy the link by right clicking the mouse and hit copy on the link.....then click the link button where we post comments. Right click the mouse and paste that link into the link area and send it off...
Quoting theshepherd:
305 Hur
Por nada...grab a rum and belly up.


too young. sorry


Hi Guys - did someone mention woolly bear caterpillars? I love caterpillars, but if you guys ate all the woolly bears I might be interested in some of that sausage that Pat was talking about. Hey, have you guys seen a friend of mine? RobinHood, you know, the guy with the wolf dog. I liked the look of that wolf, he was hairier than me! Listen, I have to run now, RTLR is coming back and he told me when he saw me in his garage this morning he was going to take me out. I wonder if that means outside?

courtesy: RTLSNK
Quoting TampaSpin:


Copy the link by right clicking the mouse and hit copy on the link.....then click the link button where we post comments. Right click the mouse and paste that link into the link area and send it off...

Copy and paste
Thx Rob, now I'll have nightmares! I need the rum now!!
Hey, sugar

I hate them too, that's why RTLSNK was trying to share it with me LOL

For warm cuddly dreams, take a look at the pic on my blog
325 rob
Nope, not even close "bear with me Pottery"

Ahem... (moron clearing his throat)...Bubble neuculation is the process that facillitates the birth of parelell universes. Can't believe you don't know that. LOL
Want to here more ???
Is that your pup?! Great looking dog. gotta read the text with tongue in cheek!! LOL...but seeing as "mom" sent it, it's funny!
Okay, RTLSNK, now it all makes perfect sense
one more ? how do i post a pic?
do i have to do the photo bucket thing or can i do it right from ie9?
sugar, not ours, a coworker of my girlfriend.
sorry for being a pric*..but just think...not a a**hole next season!
My brother said they had 3 ripper days of storms in SE queensland oz, always takes them by suprise cause weather is not a priority there, fires are, anyway, big hail storm, wind, flash floods, wrecked the place, but he said when the hail came it was as big as baseballs and all the neigbors were in cricket hats (which are hard) running with blankets to put over there cars to save them from the hail, would of loved to see that, he had just moved there from the south, anyway wrecked the place, sorry no links with pictures
Quoting RobDaHood:
sugar, not ours, a coworker of my girlfriend.

What is the breed? Do you know? Or is it a mix?
BRB Have to get the young'un off the XBOX and that takes a crowbar.
332 - Rob - You are a Prince among men. Now the skit makes sense!! Did look a little weird without the photo of harry. I promise I will never do it again. LOL
Nice Spider.
Had a run-in with a tarantula a while ago. A BIG one. Black. Hairy. Pink toes. The wife found it in the bedroom, 9 ft up, just below the ceiling. I said "step aside, I"ll deal with this"
"no, no, dont kill it"
"Wha ??
"catch it, put it outside" etc.
So, I got a big collander from the galley, and an old record jacket. Planned to whap the collander over the docile looking thing, slide the record under, and please the Lady in Distress.
Got onto the dresser. Whapped the Beast. He saw the whap coming. Took off. Got him by 1 foot.I am perched. If I press too hard, the leg comes off and I'm a gonner. If I dont press hard enough, he gets away. I'm a gonner.
I raise one foot, balanced precariously, slide off my go-forward shoe, and give him the Real Whap.
Left a nasty mark on the wall.
But I lived........
Did not have a good evening with the Lady.
340. GeoffreyWPB

the image has to be on the web or uploaded to your photos. When you can view the image in your browser, right click on it and select properties. then you can copy the link address (http:sitename.com/picture.jpg) or something similar. Go to the bottom of this page, just like you were going to post text, but click "image" then paste the link address into the box. If the image is large you should resize it to something more suitable when given the option, otherwise just leave that part blank. click ok, then click either preview to test it or post to post it. should work...note that some servers do not allow you to link their images directly.
334 sugar
If it has dew claws, it's a mix....
Quoting sugarsand:
322 Hurristat But I live in Florida, in the NW part of the state. We're not supposed to be cold in Nov!


And I live in the North. I get hotter than you in the summer (due to you guys being next to the ocean and the lake effect doesnt affect me much) and I get much much colder than you in the winter. You guys dont know what cold is. Then again, Palin would say I dont know what cold is. Temperature is subjective as to whether its cold or warm.
Quoting RobDaHood:
hurristat

wondered where you've been. afraid you might have frozen. Pop over and look at my blog when you get a chance...something for a young man like you to consider. LOL


never answered your first question. couldnt get on the computer for several days. technically I could, but I had too much Homework.
You all better start being good.....LOL

Animations - santa with list
Quoting pottery:
Nice Spider.
Had a run-in with a tarantula a while ago. A BIG one. Black. Hairy. Pink toes. The wife found it in the bedroom, 9 ft up, just below the ceiling. I said "step aside, I"ll deal with this"
"no, no, dont kill it"
"Wha ??
"catch it, put it outside" etc.
So, I got a big collander from the galley, and an old record jacket. Planned to whap the collander over the docile looking thing, slide the record under, and please the Lady in Distress.
Got onto the dresser. Whapped the Beast. He saw the whap coming. Took off. Got him by 1 foot.I am perched. If I press too hard, the leg comes off and I'm a gonner. If I dont press hard enough, he gets away. I'm a gonner.
I raise one foot, balanced precariously, slide off my go-forward shoe, and give him the Real Whap.
Left a nasty mark on the wall.
But I lived........
Did not have a good evening with the Lady.



the storyline went up up up up and then fell like the DOW.
gotta go... have a wonderful however long it is before I come back on again.
LOL, sorry about that, Hurristat.
347. pottery

oh, man too funny! Had it been me, he'd have probably taken a 9mm right between the eyeballs, even if it meant sleeping on the couch!
Quoting theshepherd:
334 sugar
If it has dew claws, it's a mix....

Of course, thanks.
LOL Rob. Fortunately, since we have these chickens roaming around, I have not seen any of those in a year or so. Good thing too....
Sugar, sorry got busy for a moment...He is a Timberwolf - Malamute hybrid. Details in comments on my blog.
347 Pottery, your wife shoulda been saving the beast!! pink-toed spiders with hair, that sounds creepy, LOL!
Pink toes ???
Pottery, be ashamed of yourself.
Even baby seals get more compassion than what you subjected that poor critter to.
Anyway, I'm gone.
Stay safe, and dont have any fun while I'm gone either.....
Quoting pottery:
Anyway, I'm gone.
Stay safe, and dont have any fun while I'm gone either.....

Break out the rum, Pottery's gone!
It was him or me, Sheph. And when I am faced with that choice, its ALWAYS me. Even if you have pink toes.
heheheheh

gone.........
AH HAH. I caught you Sugar !
(gotta love this site)
"night all.
Quoting pottery:
AH HAH. I caught you Sugar !
(gotta love this site)
"night all.

g'nite, spider man!
BUSTED!
Quoting RobDaHood:
BUSTED!

At least I'm not on the infamous ignore list!
347 - Pottery - great story! I really have a live and let live attitude about trants, scorps, and snakes, have been in areas of the world where some of the serious predators lived and as long as they didn't invade what I considered my personal space they would survive the encounter. But when they come in my house its terminate with extreme prejudice time. LOL, Had three wolf spiders get into my garage in the last week, and they are fast runners and they jump like jack-rabbits, don't even try to "catch" them. hahaha
good nite everyone......
Sarah Palin Pardons Alaskan Turkey..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8DTSPzU0RI
How could anyone ignore you sugar?

Probably time to get out of here. More pics tomorrow or sat sugar! My desk is a wreck and I don't want to wake up to that in the am...Been fun folks!
Nite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8DTSPzU0RI
Quoting RobDaHood:
How could anyone ignore you sugar?

Probably time to get out of here. More pics tomorrow or sat sugar! My desk is a wreck and I don't want to wake up to that in the am...Been fun folks!
Nite

G'nite, Rob!! I think I need to be police again for the XBOX offender. Nite all!
Time for me to stoke the wood stove and carry my banned behind to da loft....
gobble gobble
this is not at all being politcal...i mean this is just stupid...
geoff guess you have a lot of time on your hands, get a life or get a job, hello obama is the pres elect
stupid is as stupid does
i have three jobs sir...and yourself?
mr. keywest?
for those of us supporting families and writing on this blog..please respond mr. keywest.
dont worry wpb its not worth it nobody here got nothing to prove
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
mr. keywest?
the election is over!!!!!!! take your hate to women some where else please savy
thanks keeper..hypocricy is funny to me...but when challenged to video truth..it is just funny to me.
with so many complaints about the stock market,anyone notice how cheap your gas is a gallon now???,oh,yea in the next 3 months watch all the food prices re-adjust to "normal prices" annnnnd my local power company here in FL is actually going to be lowering rates to adjust for lower fuel prices...in my opinion all this market action in the last yr is just the market correcting itself...prices in the stockmarket were all way to high to start with...JMO
avg. gas prices in 2001.....1.31
don't think it'll go down that low,probably bottom out around $1.70 IMO
I imagine that the NOAA's computer models will be about as accurate as the wooly bears in predicting this winter's severity!
It appears that November here will be the coldest since 1976.
Quoting hopkinsbmw:
I imagine that the NOAA's computer models will be about as accurate as the wooly bears in predicting this winter's severity!
LOL australia had record low's this winter, and I wondered if the usa was going to follow suit, at the moment florida is freezing its butt off early so lets see what happens

shoot... have to say to geoff, screw you liberal boy, am a girl so kiss my butt, mo fo, savy
Anyone know how SJ fared?
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
It appears that November here will be the coldest since 1976.


It has been cold for 3 days straight
Brrr! just back from walking the dog -- couldn't believe in this cold she had such a mission today -- just did not want to go back in ---ughhh 20 minutes in the cold & I forgot my coffee LOL.... Futuremet, when is this going to turn around -- I miss my tropic weather -- my skin is screaming for humidity and my bones ache from being cold
Under a blizzard advisory for this weekend now, yippee. Seems we'll have widespread snow. :P
398. surfmom

I miss my tropic weather -- my skin is screaming for humidity and my bones ache from being cold

Yeah, shoulder, elbow, wrists, feel 20 yrs older this week.
Quoting RobDaHood:
398. surfmom

I miss my tropic weather -- my skin is screaming for humidity and my bones ache from

Yeah, shoulder, elbow, wrists, feel 20 yrs older this week.

Floridians, you need some tea down ya. Revitalises and takes away the cold like no other. :)
Workin on the Coffee right now, but will try some tea later today. With your weather of late, you should know.
Good morning...
Mornin WxLogic!

Not paying much attention, trying to get a crew started on a job this morning...think their brains froze this week!
13sec 5.5ft. swell is pumping again. kind of chilly in e cen fl
waves looked waist to chest high in my area yesterday evening
Morning all, temp in Macon only hit 36*F this morning, high today 48, low Sat morn = 22*F for Sun also 22.
Geoffrey,
Thank you for the Butterball update on turkeys.
Dr.Masters,
What is the price in Michigan for oil? I wonder if the winter is very warm oil drops furthers. Good Evening by the way.
Morning Rattler,

Much warmer here, will be in the low 70's maybe even mid. but will get a tad windy.

Sure you don't want to fish the keys this week?
Good Morning everybody :0)

Man is it "COLD" down here in South Alabama....


Taco :0)
Expecting lows in the mid thirties tonight in Houston. Brrrrr we don't choose live here for the cold. Have to cover the tropicals tonight and getting out to volunteer at the bird sanctuary in the morning just won't be fun.
411 - Rob - That sounds good! Wife and I spent a wild week in Islamorada once, right off the sea wall on the Gulf side, 30 min before sunset, the red snapper come in close to feed, live shrimp, only had two dozen of them the first night, caught 15 snappers, nice filets, rolled in cornmeal, YUM.
414. RTLSNK

Yum indeed, hoping I can start taking some long weekends this winter. Friends and family up and down both coast with boats and secret spots. Standing invitations to fish or dive, but so busy the last few years that I haven't done much of either.
We had big snow flakes here in Sanford, NC this morning. Crazy weather!
Hmmmm the RTL & Rob show.. hows it going :)

Complete Blog Refresh
Mirror Site (New Format)
GM,all from frigid new england,amazing to see everyone in the south shivering also,but wait until this weekend,possibly below freezing as far south as the Florida panhandle.
419. GeneW
I told you. Those caterpillars warned us it was going to snow. It is from Asheville to Camp Lejeune, NC.

Gene
Anyone want to trade weather today?



WIND WARNING: Greater Victoria, Issued at 4:37 AM PST FRIDAY 21 NOVEMBER 2008

STRONG WINDS UP TO 90 TO 110 KM/H ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP NORTH AND WEST OF VANCOUVER ISLAND. STRONG WINDS 60 GUSTING TO 90 KM/H ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP LATER THIS MORNING OVER THE SOUTH COAST. THIS IS A WARNING THAT POTENTIALLY DAMAGING WINDS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING IN THESE REGIONS. MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS..LISTEN FOR UPDATED STATEMENTS
417 - Orca - Hey Canuck - good to hear from you, everything still alive at your place? Have been using your blog to throw a few parties, probably should have invited you huh?
ROFLMAO
Quoting RTLSNK:
417 - Orca - Hey Canuck - good to hear from you, everything still alive at your place? Have been using your blog to throw a few parties, probably should have invited you huh?
ROFLMAO


I see that :)
Been up to my A in alligators, the last few days.. but it all appears to be coming together.. so I should have more time to slack off and play here.

You have to hate it when reality and business screw up a hobby.
Quoting sporteguy03:
Geoffrey,
Thank you for the Butterball update on turkeys.


Geoffrey can take his liberal crap out of here, and stick the turkey someplace only his fellow DEMS heads are usually at!
420 - Orca - Holy Cow Batman, is that thing what everybody was talking about last week?
OH sorry, Good morning everyone......lol
Quoting Orcasystems:


Quoting RTLSNK:
420 - Orca - Holy Cow Batman, is that thing what everybody was talking about last week?


We get stuff like that fairly often up here this time of year. If we are not getting the remnants from some Typhoon, or the pineapple express from Hawaii, these would be the normal winter storms.
Nice Clipper head SouthEast...

Quoting TampaSpin:
OH sorry, Good morning everyone......lol


ROFLMAO, who's been ummmmm playing in your cornflakes this morning?
Quoting Orcasystems:


ROFLMAO, who's been ummmmm playing in your cornflakes this morning?


ROFLMAO, Freaking Liberals.........LOL
430. IKE
Whatever happened to StormW?

His last entry....

Posted by: StormW, 8:33 AM CST on November 10, 2008
Hey everyone!

I will be out of the office most of the week, but will be in the monitoring mode. I will update the blog should anything arise.

"Storm"
Tim, if you're like this with liberals, I'd hate to see what you're like with socialists...
Maybe he's recharging his batteries, Ike?

Been a long season.

When does the countdown for '09 start?:p
433. IKE
Quoting Cotillion:
Maybe he's recharging his batteries, Ike?

Been a long season.

When does the countdown for '09 start?:p


After the 2008 season officially ends in less than 10 days...
Goodmorning to you too, Orca. Starting to have 2nd thoughts about my interest in visiting your fair island...LOL...not this month at least.
Quoting Cotillion:
Tim, if you're like this with liberals, I'd hate to see what you're like with socialists...


LOL...aw it aint that bad....its just that one individual keep ask how to post a video then when i showed him.....he post garbage on the blog....that pissed me off.....sorry to vent this way....dam i can't start drinking this early can i......lol
Quoting RobDaHood:
Goodmorning to you too, Orca. Starting to have 2nd thoughts about my interest in visiting your fair island...LOL...not this month at least.


I know this will be hard for you to believe, but due to geographical features.. about 90% of this stuff does not even effect Victoria. If we go out of town about 30 miles it sure does.

From Wiki:

Total annual precipitation is just 608 mm (24in) at the Gonzales weather station in Victoria, contrasted to nearby Seattle, (137 km/85 miles away to the southeast), with 970mm (38in) of rainfall, or Vancouver, 100 km away, with 1,219 mm (48 in) of rainfall. Perhaps even more dramatic is the difference in rainfalls on Vancouver Island. Port Renfrew, just 80 km from Victoria on the wet southwest coast of Vancouver Island receives 3,671 mm (145 in). Even the Victoria Airport, 25 km north of the city, receives about 45 per cent more precipitation than the city proper.
Quoting TampaSpin:


LOL...aw it aint that bad....its just that one individual keep ask how to post a video then when i showed him.....he post garbage on the blog....that pissed me off.....sorry to vent this way....dam i can't start drinking this early can i......lol


I think we can excuse an Irish coffee or two ;)
Orca,

So I've heard. My parents were there recently, a side-trip on the way to Alaska. They loved it.
Quoting Cotillion:


I think we can excuse an Irish coffee or two ;)


Thanks i will take you up on that.....lol..ok i have calmed down now.....lol
I wonder what will happen today.....????

431. Cotillion

Tim's frustration is understandable. Someone tells you they can't figure out how to post an image wishing everyone a happy thanksgiving, so you spend time teaching them, then they post something that they know will be inflammatory. It's very disappointing and makes you think twice before helping the next person.
History usually shows that the Week before Thanksgiving and the month of December the DOW usually does little to change.......lets see if that holds true now.....
Quoting RobDaHood:
431. Cotillion

Tim's frustration is understandable. Someone tells you they can't figure out how to post an image wishing everyone a happy thanksgiving, so you spend time teaching them, then they post something that they know will be inflammatory. It's very disappointing and makes you think twice before helping the next person.


Mind you.... Tim appears to be in rare form this morning :)

Politics..and now the stock market :)
ROFL now all we need is a post on religion and GW to make it complete.
Sorry Tim, could not resist.
Quoting TampaSpin:


ROFLMAO, Freaking Liberals.........LOL




maybe your cornflakes would taste better if I gave you some of my liberal Pi$$ to soften it up for your hick w/no teeth redneck mouth to eat them with...so there nice an soft for you!!!!...lol...my friend.....
Whoa...Political Banter is fine here,.but as a rule.."I'll flag every post that gigs a Rep or Democrat,or Indy."

Millions of Armed Force Personnel are Dems too.
As well as the choice any individual makes.

Respect that or get a 24 Ban

And Good Morning to the chilly South and frozen North
Quoting stillwaiting:




maybe your cornflakes would taste better if I gave you some of my liberal Pi$$ to soften it up for your hick w/no teeth redneck mouth to eat them with...so there nice an soft for you!!!!...lol...my friend.....


Now see i would have never know your true colors until you just showed the whole world the real you. Thank you for the Discovery for all to see......you are so very welcome.
some of the people down here are so close minded,its OK,because there are more people from up north moving down here...and everyone knows that we run things down here anyway,the hicks just still live here....anyone notice what color FL was for the election????BLUE!!!!!
Grandma and Grandpa are babysitting the "little angel" this morning while daughter goes to the doctor to find out when "little Jake" will be arriving. Two grandchildren, it doesn't get any better than that! BBL
444. stillwaiting

Okay, that would be an example of a personal attack and they are not well tolerated here...please refrain.
Well, either way; enjoy your Thanksgiving Americans. Short work week, excuse for gluttony (And a warm-up for Christmas I suppose) and perhaps a bit of snow for the cause for some parts, with any luck? (I know Bone would appreciate it...)

Quoting RobDaHood:
431. Cotillion

Tim's frustration is understandable. Someone tells you they can't figure out how to post an image wishing everyone a happy thanksgiving, so you spend time teaching them, then they post something that they know will be inflammatory. It's very disappointing and makes you think twice before helping the next person.


Exactly.....that was the complete problem...i will not help anyone again that i don't know.
444. stillwaiting 2:46 PM GMT on November 21, 2008

Uncalled for.. poof gone
hmmm....such a nice atmosphere in here this morning! LOL
Quoting RTLSNK:
Grandma and Grandpa are babysitting the "little angel" this morning while daughter goes to the doctor to find out when "little Jake" will be arriving. Two grandchildren, it doesn't get any better than that! BBL


I only have the one... 7 year old Grandson :)
I like grandkids much more then kids.. they go home after a few hours :)
from the Atlanta Urinal Constipation...

Weather Channel lays off staff
Quoting RobDaHood:
444. stillwaiting

Okay, that would be an example of a personal attack and they are not well tolerated here...please refrain.


Rob its all good.....im a little more mature to know what i like on my CornFlakes.....LMAO
447. stillwaiting

I was born in Tampa and have lived in FL all my life, though I have traveled far and wide.

I guess I must be one of the "Hicks" you refer to. And by the way, Florida USED to be a much nicer place. For one thing, most of us "Hicks" were raised with better manners than to post anything like you just did.
Orca its your fault for bring in the box of cornflakes......LOL
I forgot its like high school on the board,don't mess w/the popular kids....lol...2yrs on the board and I still have zero people on ignore,I doubt that I'm not open minded!!!!,one things for sure there are alot of insecure people that frequent this blog unfortunately,but I'll hang in there!!!!
Queensland braces for fourth storm


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SOUTHERN and central Queenslanders are bracing for the fourth fierce storm in a devastating week described by Premier Anna Bligh as a "never-ending story".

The Bureau of Meteorology has forecast wild winds and possible hail tomorrow across an area stretching from Barcaldine to Brisbane.

A severe storm warning for tonight was cancelled, giving emergency service workers a much-needed reprieve, and more time for residents to batten down before the next barrage.

Ms Bligh, who visited the central Queensland mining town of Blackwater, said the early string of storms didn't bode well for summer.

Blackwater was pelted with hail on Thursday night, damaging 100 homes.

Ms Bligh assured residents that defence force personnel could be called in to aid the recovery if the storms persisted.

"We are in for a rocky summer," she said.

"Like everyone here in Queensland, I'm beginning to wonder when it will end."

She paid tribute to emergency workers, some of whom were taking their first break after four days of relentless work in difficult conditions.

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I hope Mother Nature is a bit kinder to us than she has been in the past few days," she said.

"It's starting to feel like the never-ending story."

Emergency Management Queensland deputy executive director Bruce Grady said tomorrow's storm would bring stronger, gusty winds.

Residents should take precautions, including heeding weather alerts, trimming trees, securing loose items, preparing an emergency kit and covering any debris from previous storms.

"If they are concerned about current damage and what that might mean in a storm we would encourage them to move to family and friends," Mr Grady said.

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GM all,see the blog is riled up already.
460. vortfix

Wow, impressive pics!
Quoting stillwaiting:
I forgot its like high school on the board,don't mess w/the popular kids....lol...2yrs on the board and I still have zero people on ignore,I doubt that I'm not open minded!!!!,one things for sure there are alot of insecure people that frequent this blog unfortunately,but I'll hang in there!!!!


You really don't have to hang in there if you don't want too....ROFLMAO
Let's just flag and ignore the troll; I did weeks ago. :)

That's what the tools are there for.

Amazingly on the ACE levels, despite 16 storms and 4 Category Four hurricanes, it is not in the top tier since 1950. (Hyperactive.) Unless the post-season reports jump the ACE considerably, it'll likely stay like that.
New blog
464. gotta link for that?
Wow, impressive pics!


Here is a slideshow of a couple hundred images Rob.

Quoting RobDaHood:
447. stillwaiting

I was born in Tampa and have lived in FL all my life, though I have traveled far and wide.

I guess I must be one of the "Hicks" you refer to. And by the way, Florida USED to be a much nicer place. For one thing, most of us "Hicks" were raised with better manners than to post anything like you just did.



when did I say ALL Floridains were hicks?????,heck I was born in orlando,I just grew up in CT...and there are alot of kick a$$ people in FL...I was referring to a Type of southerner,us northerners call hicks!!!(usually very closed minded and racists)
Quoting RobDaHood:
447. stillwaiting

I was born in Tampa and have lived in FL all my life, though I have traveled far and wide.

I guess I must be one of the "Hicks" you refer to. And by the way, Florida USED to be a much nicer place. For one thing, most of us "Hicks" were raised with better manners than to post anything like you just did.

amen to that, native floridian myself
Philadelphia Freedom!