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Wednesday's Nor'easter to have lower impact than originally feared

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:11 PM GMT on November 06, 2012

An early-season Nor'easter is taking shape along the coast of South Carolina today, but is now forecast to be weaker and move farther offshore than originally forecast, resulting in lower impacts to the New Jersey and New York coasts than originally feared. The storm will head north-northeast along the coast on Wednesday, intensifying into a 990 mb Nor'easter, a few hundred miles south of Long Island, NY, by Wednesday evening. The storm will likely bring wind gusts up to 50 mph and a storm surge of 2 - 3 feet along the coasts of Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York, including New York City. High waves of 10 - 20 feet will ride on top of this surge, and cause moderate beach erosion along much of the coastline damaged by Hurricane Sandy. The greatest flooding will occur during the Wednesday early afternoon high tide cycle, near 1 pm EST. Fortunately, the high tides this week will be some of the lowest of the month, since we are midway between the new moon and full moon. The Nor'easter's strongest winds will likely affect eastern Long Island and coastal Massachusetts, where wind gusts up to 60 mph will be possible Wednesday evening and Thursday. The storm's heaviest rains will stay offshore, and only Eastern Massachusetts can expect to see more than 1" of rain. The storm isn't going to tap into a large reservoir of cold, Arctic air, which will limit snowfall amounts to perhaps 1 - 2" along a swath from Northern New Jersey northeastwards, across Western Massachusetts and into Maine. While the storm will slow down recovery efforts from Hurricane Sandy, this is a pretty ordinary Nor'easter of the type the Northeast sees several times per year, and will not cause major damage.


Figure 1. Predicted wind speed for 1 pm EST Wednesday, November 7, 2012, from the 12Z (7 am EST) run of the GFS model made on Tuesday, November 6, 2012. Winds tropical storm-force (39+ mph) are predicted to affect Southern New Jersey, eastern Long Island, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts, but miss the areas hardest hit by Sandy--northern New Jersey and the New York City area.


Figure 2. Predicted storm surge at Sandy Hook, NJ for Wednesday's Nor'easter, from the experimental Extratropical Storm Surge model, run by NOAA"s Meteorological Development Laboratory. This model used winds from this morning's 6Z (1 am EDT) run of the GFS model. The peak storm surge (yellowish-brown line) is predicted to be 3.7', occurring Wednesday afternoon. High tide (green line) occurs near 1 pm Wednesday afternoon, resulting in a peak storm tide of approximately 7.8' around 1 pm Wednesday (black line). For comparison, Sandy delivered a 8.6' storm surge to Sandy Hook before their tide gauge failed, with the storm tide reaching 13.2' above MLLW (Mean Lower Low Water.)

More Sandy links
I gave a TED talk in Bermuda in October 2011, and presented a list of nine potential $100 billion weather disasters that could happen in the next 30 years. Number six on my list was a hurricane hitting New York City. “We really don’t know what climate change is going to do to hurricanes,” I said, “but it makes sense that it’ll probably make the strongest ones stronger.” If you want to see what I had to say about a hurricane hitting New York City, plus the other eight disasters I think have at least a 10% chance of happening in the next 30 years, the 18-minute video is up on the main TED site. (I've since updated my list to twelve potential $100 billion disasters, and plan on running a blog series on the topic in 2013.)

Was Sandy a hurricane at landfall? Lee Grenci, a senior lecturer and forecaster at the Department of Meteorology at Penn State, weighs in on the matter in this guest blog post. He presents evidence that Sandy was not a hurricane at landfall, and was instead a rapidly evolving hybrid storm. Lee , who is a frequent contributor to Weatherwise magazine, will be joining wunderground as a featured blogger in December, and we're looking forward to having his excellent writings!

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Jeff Masters

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Reader Comments

Quoting Grothar:


I see high wind warnings are now up with gusts to 70 mph along CT coast...
before it was 60 mph.

So the danger is increasing?
Quoting Grothar:
You all realize that tomorrow, one way or another, half the blog is going to hate the other half. Just remember, we all love our country.


Tomorrow we will just move on. No hate.
162-163...favor Romney.
504. etxwx
Quoting Bielle:


Has a candidate from either party ever lost one presidential race and then run again for the post in the following election?


In my lifetime, Nixon came close...he skipped the 1964 race though, but he was persistent. From Wikipedia: "Nixon was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party presidential nominee in the 1952 election. Nixon served for eight years as vice president. He waged an unsuccessful presidential campaign in 1960, narrowly losing to John F. Kennedy, and lost a race for Governor of California in 1962. In 1968, he ran again for the presidency and was elected."
3 more votes for the democrats for the senate majority
Iowa is now leaning for Obama
Results Presidential Race


Romney
173
51%/ 27,030,938

Obama
157
48%/ 25,730,052

Romney's drawing to an inside straight. Looks like the Pres is in the drivers seat.
Quoting etxwx:


In my lifetime, Nixon came close...he skipped the 1964 race though, but he was persistent. From Wikipedia: "Nixon was the running mate of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Republican Party presidential nominee in the 1952 election. Nixon served for eight years as vice president. He waged an unsuccessful presidential campaign in 1960, narrowly losing to John F. Kennedy, and lost a race for Governor of California in 1962. In 1968, he ran again for the presidency and was elected."


What about Adlai Stevenson?
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I see high wind warnings are now up with gusts to 70 mph along CT coast...
before it was 60 mph.

So the danger is increasing?


Just a little. They do expect some flooding on Long Island again.
Its over...Ohio and Florida are going to go Obama and the election, unless some serious upsets happen out west.
Quoting ILwthrfan:
Its over...Ohio and Florida are going to go Obama and the election, unless some serious upsets happen out west.



its not overe
512. etxwx
Quoting Grothar:


What about Adlai Stevenson?

I wasn't old enough to vote yet ;-) but you are correct, he ran in 1952 and 1956 and lost both times. Good memory!
Quoting Bluestorm5:
If Obama win Florida, we don't have a race IMO.


If he is elected then America has spoken that they are ok with increasing debts, lack of jobs and government bail outs etc.......... How are our senior citizens doing with that interest rates on their retirement funds.
Quoting wxchaser97:
On a weather note, the GFS will begin running soon. I am expecting to see Valerie again.
Me too and maybe William near Bermuda ;).
Quoting etxwx:

I wasn't old enough to vote yet ;-) but you are correct, he ran in 1952 and 1956 and lost both times. Good memory!


I watched it on TV and saw him lose both times.

And what about Dewey?
Quoting allancalderini:
Me too and maybe William near Bermuda ;).

I at least think Valerie in the E ATL. We could see William somewhere though.
00Z NAM snowfall accumulation @ 36 hours:

Quoting Grothar:
You all realize that tomorrow, one way or another, half the blog is going to hate the other half.
So what else is new? ;-)
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Obama cried in his last campaign in Iowa????
Didn't know that
He was emotional; it was, after all, his last campaign event ever in support of his own political career. I enjoy seeing the human side of any candidate.

Anyway, assuming all the Western states go as expected, Romney needs Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, and Colorado to win, while Obama can win by picking up just Ohio, or just Florida.
519. etxwx
Quoting Grothar:


I watched it on TV and saw him lose both times.

And what about Dewey?


You mean he didn't beat Truman?? But I saw it in the newspaper!
Quoting wxchaser97:
Dang, 5 out of 6 proposals in MI will likely be rejected with the 6th too close to call.


Prop 6 won't pass. I don't want that bridge, but I don't want to approve every international bridge, so eh...
Quoting Neapolitan:
No change? Obama has had a few failures--many of them due to an obstructive Congress refusing to work with him--but his list of accomplishments is long and astounding.

If Romney loses tonight, he will absolutely not run again in 2016. Though I should rephrase that; he may throw his hat in the ring, but he will be quickly be voted off the island for lack of support. The GOP machinery simply will not spend another several hundred million dollars promoting a candidate who has failed once already. (Which isn't a partisan thing to say; if Obama loses tonight, he can choose to run again in 2016, but the DNC will never support him.)


Hillary will run next term and really show you guys how to run a country as we all know, women know EVERYTHING!

Good night everyone!

Quoting Grothar:


I watched it on TV and saw him lose both times.

And what about Dewey?

Thanks Grothar. I should just have asked you directly.
Results Presidential Race


Romney
173
51%/ 30,509,345

Obama
167
48%/ 29,046,017

Quoting Slamguitar:


Prop 6 won't pass. I don't want that bridge, but I don't want to approve every international bridge, so eh...

Prop 2-6 won't pass and prop 1 is basically tied.
525. MTWX
Quoting Grothar:
You all realize that tomorrow, one way or another, half the blog is going to hate the other half. Just remember, we all love our country.


Some of us are neutral, and don't care either way...
At least most here would agree that it's good to see yet another anti-science politician like Todd Akin get the heave-ho. Everything else aside, this would be a much better nation and world if the entire slate of uneducated types would simply leave Washington in the hands of grown-ups who support empirical science.
The 00Z GFS is now running, here is 12hrs.
If Oboma wins we may not have elections in 2016. Presedent for life comrade? sound familair
529. vanwx
My weather report says 12 more days of elections.
00Z GFS at 18 hours:

Quoting vanwx:
My weather report says 12 more days of elections.


I could not take another 12 hours!
New York, New York (Manhattan)
COASTAL FLOOD WARNING
Statement as of 9:31 PM EST on November 06, 2012
Expires 6:00 AM EST on November 08, 2012

... Coastal Flood Warning remains in effect from 11 am Wednesday
to 6 am EST Thursday...

* locations... New York Harbor.

* Tidal departures... around 3.5 feet Wednesday afternoon and
around 3 ft late Wednesday night.

* Beach erosion... large breaking waves of 8 to 12 feet on top of
any surge could cause significant additional beach erosion and
overwash.

* Timing... around the times of high tide early Wednesday
afternoon and again after midnight Wednesday night.

* Impacts... moderate coastal flooding is expected mainly during
Wednesday afternoon. Minor coastal flooding to localized
moderate coastal flooding is expected late Wednesday afternoon
into early Thursday morning. Locally major flooding could
occur in places due to changes to underwater slopes and/or
loss of protective dunes both caused by Sandy. Widespread
flooding of vulnerable shore roads and/or basements will
hamper recovery efforts.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A coastal Flood Warning means that flooding is expected or
occurring. Coastal residents in the warned area should be alert
for rising water... and take appropriate action to protect life
and property.

... NY Harbor water levels for Wednesday afternoon...

Coastal... ... ... ... time of... ... forecast total... ..Flood... ...
location... ... ... ..high Tide... ..Water level... ... .category...
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..(Mllw)... ... ... ... ... ... ...

The Battery NYC... ..137 PM... ... ... ..7.75-8.25... ..Moderate...
Bergen Point NY... ..128 PM... ... ... ..8.35-8.85... ..Moderate...

... NY Harbor water levels for late Wednesday night...

Coastal... ... ... ... time of... ... forecast total... ..Flood... ...
location... ... ... ..high Tide... ..Water level... ... .category...
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..(Mllw)... ... ... ... ... ... ...

The Battery NYC... ..241 am... ... ... ..6.5-7.6... ... .minor... ...
Bergen Point NY... ..230 am... ... ... ..7.2-8.3... ... .minor... ...

... Ocean water levels for Wednesday afternoon...

Coastal... ... ... ... time of... ... forecast total... ..Flood... ...
location... ... ... ..high Tide... ..Water level... ... .category...
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..(Mllw)... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Montauk Point NY... .311 PM... ... ... ..5.65-6.15... ..Moderate...

... Ocean water levels for late Wednesday night...

Coastal... ... ... ... time of... ... forecast total... ..Flood... ...
location... ... ... ..high Tide... ..Water level... ... .category...
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..(Mllw)... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Montauk Point NY... .352 am... ... ... ..4.0-5.1... ... .minor... ...





HIGH WIND WARNING
Statement as of 9:35 PM EST on November 06, 2012
Expires 4:00 AM EST on November 08, 2012

... High Wind Warning remains in effect from 2 PM Wednesday to
4 am EST Thursday...

* locations... New York City... Long Island... coastal
Connecticut... Hudson County... and southern Westchester County.

* Hazards... damaging winds.

* Winds... north 25 to 40 mph with gusts up to 60 mph. Isolated
gusts up to 70 mph possible.

* Timing... Wednesday afternoon and Wednesday night.

* Impacts... winds of this magnitude will be capable of producing
downed trees and power lines... as well as minor property
damage.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A High Wind Warning means a hazardous high wind event is expected
or occurring. Sustained wind speeds of at least 40 mph or gusts
of 58 mph or more can lead to property damage.
By the way, who's actually watching the tropics at the time? There's something raising a stink in the extreme southern Caribbean.
Quoting Civicane49:
00Z GFS at 18 hours:


That's much weaker than the NAM. It was ~980 mb at the same point in its run.
I know we have the election, but the nor'easter is also important. At 18hrs it is at 990mb and snow is falling close to the coast.

Nor'easter in the making in the amid of election.

Results Presidential Race


Romney
184
50%/ 32,067,353


Obama
167
48%/ 30,647,936

Quoting LostTomorrows:
By the way, who's actually watching the tropics at the time? There's something raising a stink in the extreme southern Caribbean.


Tropics, how did they vote?
GFS slowly moves it NE and slowly weakens it after 18hrs, here's 42hrs.
Google's election page is pretty cool:

LINK HERE

It currently shows Obama with slim leads in Ohio, Florida, and Colorado. But there are still plenty of votes to count...
00Z GFS at 48 hours:

I like the good 50/50 split of elections and weather right now.

Less tab changing.
543. beell
Quoting Neapolitan:
At least most here would agree that it's good to see yet another anti-science politician like Todd Akin get the heave-ho. Everything else aside, this would be a much better nation and world if the entire slate of uneducated types would simply leave Washington in the hands of grown-ups who support empirical science.


We might be a little better off, Neap. No doubt.

We utimately may be much better off if the majority of them could learn to balance a checkbook. There is some empirical evidence to support that as well.
At 54hrs it is still slowly going NE. Good thing there isn't a lot of artic air or there would be some pretty big problems.
MN goes to Obama
AZ goes to Romney

Projections from CNN.
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:




Nice blob. Though, it is highly unlikely to develop.
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:




Yup, that's the one. It's been looking good all day.
Time to see what the GFS does tropical development wise. Right now we are at 84hrs but development shouldn't occur until 120+hrs.
I called HP tech support and got a very nice and helpful technician who happens to be working in a call center in India. And people wonder why unemployment has increased over the past 4 years.
wow...Obama 238
Romney 203
Quoting vanwx:
My weather report says 12 more days of elections.

I am with you. I see a long stormy period no matter who wins and I don't expect a quick victory for either side. In Texas our polls usually close at 7:00 pm but Galveston county is going until around 9:00 because they couldn't get the machines going for quite a while. Some where I read NJ residents have until Friday to get their absentee baliots in.
Quoting beell:


We might be a little better off, Neap. No doubt.

We utimately may be much better off if the majority of them could learn to balance a checkbook. There is some empirical evidence to support that as well.


I agree. I haven't met a single person, progressive or conservative, who thinks spending more than you take in is a viable long-term solution. I think the big disagreement between the parties right now is not WHETHER to balance the budget, but HOW to balance it.
CA, HI, WI, and WA is going to Obama
ID, NC, and MT go to Romney

CNN projections.
Results Presidential Race

Obama
238
48%/ 34,453,820

Romney
203
50%/ 36,010,520


According to Fox News, Obama has 244 and Romney has 193.
According to CNN, Obama has 238 and Romney has 191.
Obama Probably win now.
243votes for Obama
Romney wins North Carolina.
Quoting Neapolitan:
At least most here would agree that it's good to see yet another anti-science politician like Todd Akin get the heave-ho. Everything else aside, this would be a much better nation and world if the entire slate of uneducated types would simply leave Washington in the hands of grown-ups who support empirical science.


Why would you assume that "most" would agree with you?
Results Presidential Race

Obama
243
48%/ 34,835,179
Romney
203
50%/ 36,378,883
476 PensacolaDoug: Ya'll want 20 trillion debt owed mostly to the Chicoms? There's a plan for the future.

Yep, I do. Ifn they ain't very very very nice to US, they ain't gonna get a cent back.
Owe the bank ten thousand dollars, and the bank owns you.
Owe the bank ten billion dollars, and you own the bank.
Besides:
1) China is less communist than BainsCapitalManagement.
2) Japan's USbond holdings are now once again greater than China's, with SaudiArabia's close behind.
In case you haven't noticed, Japan and China ain't ever been close friends exactly... still aren't.
And without US protection, SaudiArabia ain't a nation, it's fresh meat... which is why SaudiArabia broke the ArabOilEmbargo.
3) When the World economy is heading toward the drain, investment monies are poured into the USdollar and USbonds as safe-havens.
Right now 30year-USbond yields are so low, they're paying US to take their money.
4) And sovereign/governmental USbond holdings are dwarfed by those held by private investment funds, especially including US pension funds.

The bottom line being that right now there's no place for the majority of investment funds to go but down the tubes should the US cease selling its Treasury-bonds.
May not like it, but that's the way the way it is has been since the beginning of WWII. And it'll take at least that long to come up with a viable replacement... which takes us into the 22ndCentury.
Obama will likely win.
Should begin to see development soon, 120hrs.
Quoting MrMixon:


I agree. I haven't met a single person, progressive or conservative, who thinks spending more than you take in is a viable long-term solution. I think the big disagreement between the parties right now is not WHETHER to balance the budget, but HOW to balance it.


This country is in a financial mess. And yet it looks as if we are okay with 4 more years of this.
Obama wins Iowa.
Quoting clwstmchasr:


Why would you assume that "most" would agree with you?


I think he counts the pluses.
Obama now 249 votes
Obama takes Iowa and New Mexico, waiting for FL and OH.
Obama wins Oregon.
At 132hrs, a low has developed and is closed by 1 isobar.
Watching CNN showing college kids cheering as they announce Obama wins New Mexico. Lets see how happy they are when they graduate and try to get a job.
Quoting clwstmchasr:


Why would you assume that "most" would agree with you?
Because as a climate and weather site, by definition most here would seem to be pro-science. But I didn't mean to offend by including any of you who are against science.

NBC just called the election for Obama after calling Ohio in his favor.
Quoting clwstmchasr:


Why would you assume that "most" would agree with you?


Because decisions based on empirical evidence are better than ones based on ideology.
Quoting wxchaser97:
Obama takes Iowa and New Mexico, waiting for FL and OH.
If he wins that two he is relected
Obama wins Ohio. Obama wins second term.
256 electoral votes... SOON TO WIN!!!
I think Obama has win Washington.
Quoting allancalderini:
I think Obama has win Washington.


Yes. He won Washington.
Results Presidential Race

Obama
256
48%/ 37,634,950


Romney
203
50%/ 38,869,285


00Z GFS at 144 hours:

Quoting clwstmchasr:


This country is in a financial mess. And yet it looks as if we are okay with 4 more years of this.


I don't think people want things to remain unchanged. People want things to continue getting better. There are just different opinions about the best way to make them better.
from CBS

Sarah Huisenga @SarahH_CBSNJDead silence in Boston. RT @rodney_cbsnj: Crowd is going crazy right now in Chicago. #ElectionNight #Campaign2012

OBAMA WINS!!!
144hrs, not as strong as past runs.
Quoting MrMixon:


I think he counts the pluses.


If that is the case then a whopping 2 people agree.
Thank God we don't have to go through another 2000.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
from CBS

Sarah Huisenga @SarahH_CBSNJDead silence in Boston. RT @rodney_cbsnj: Crowd is going crazy right now in Chicago. #ElectionNight #Campaign2012

OBAMA WINS!!!



not yet
Looking at the Red and Blue states, if it was by "square milage", Romney would win!
Obama wins re-election and Ohio.
Quoting Tazmanian:



not yet

It's over now Taz.
Quoting clwstmchasr:


This country is in a financial mess. And yet it looks as if we are okay with 4 more years of this.


Four more years of what? The current financial situation originated well before Obama was in office.
BOOO I say BOOO
Quoting Tazmanian:



not yet


Yes Taz....Obama wins. And the Dems. retain control of the Senate and Pubs of the House.
Results Presidential Race

*Obama* RE-ELECTED
274
49%/ 41,822,254
Romney
203
50%/ 42,540,568
Quoting Tazmanian:



not yet


he did
It's official. Obama wins re-election.
599. beell
Quoting MrMixon:


I agree. I haven't met a single person, progressive or conservative, who thinks spending more than you take in is a viable long-term solution. I think the big disagreement between the parties right now is not WHETHER to balance the budget, but HOW to balance it.


Kinda like trying to figure out HOW to control our unbalanced climate, aint it?
And there goes the next 4 years of our lives
Obama wins. yes :)
Quoting originalLT:
Looking at the Red and Blue states, if it was by "square milage", Romney would win!


Thankfully it's not, LT!
Quoting MrMixon:


I don't think people want things to remain unchanged. People want things to continue getting better. There are just different opinions about the best way to make them better.


I think perhaps changing horses in mid-stream.
Quoting Doppler22:
And there goes the next 4 years of our lives



...into wonderland...
Is it time again for Hope and Change? Or will it be Cope and Chaos? Four more years to find out. Can't blame the previous administration now because Obama is the previous administration. Hope he gets things turned around.
Sigh, oh well, there goes my hope in this nation.

Gary Johnson for President 2012! No hard feelings towards the liberals on this blog, but I am very sad.
Romney tried but may be a better ch in 2016
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Four more years of what? The current financial situation originated
well before Obama was in office.


That's right. It started in the late 90's when the government sued Bank of America for not giving mortgages to unqualified buyers.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:



...into wonderland...

no... to canada... cause thats where i'm going now
GFS also tries to get a system going near Bermuda, but it can't do too much. I still think we will see Valerie.
168hrs:


Also the I-96 shooter/terrorist has finally been arrested and is in jail awaiting trial. My roads are safer today.
Christie is happy tonight!
Quoting Doppler22:

no... to canada... cause thats where i'm going now


hahahaha lol
Quoting Doppler22:

no... to canada... cause thats where i'm going now


Welcome, Doppler! lol
Quoting Doppler22:

no... to canada... cause thats where i'm going now

I got Dragod66...
Quoting clwstmchasr:


If that is the case then a whopping 2 people agree.


Sorry, I almost forgot to vote! ;)

No, silly, I don't mean the votes on that particular post. I mean, he looks at the pluses overall on the various comments on this blog.
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Because decisions based on empirical evidence are better than ones based on ideology.


I don't have any pictures, emails, video, DNA, physical science of a man who walked the earth 2,000 years ago, died for my sins and ascended into heaven. Sometimes it takes faith over science.
00Z GFS at 174 hours:

Quoting Xyrus2000:


Four more years of what? The current financial situation originated well before Obama was in office.


What was our deficit 4 years ago versus now?
Quoting Doppler22:

no... to canada... cause thats where i'm going now



Dress warmly- Keeper says it's cold up there!
Quoting clwstmchasr:


What was our deficit 4 years ago versus now?


My 401K is way up. Does that count?
Quoting aspectre:
476 PensacolaDoug: Ya'll want 20 trillion debt owed mostly to the Chicoms? There's a plan for the future.

Yep, I do. Ifn they ain't very very very nice to US, they ain't gonna get a cent back.
Owe the bank ten thousand dollars, and the bank owns you.
Owe the bank ten billion dollars, and you own the bank.
Besides:
1) China is less communist than BainsCapitalManagement.
2) Japan's USbond holdings are now once again greater than China's, with SaudiArabia's close behind.
In case you haven't noticed, Japan and China ain't ever been close friends exactly... still aren't.
And without US protection, SaudiArabia ain't a nation, it's fresh meat... which is why SaudiArabia broke the ArabOilEmbargo.
3) When the World economy is heading toward the drain, investment monies are poured into the USdollar and USbonds as safe-havens.
Right now 30year-USbond yields are so low, they're paying US to take their money.
4) And sovereign/governmental USbond holdings are dwarfed by those held by private investment funds, especially including US pension funds.

The bottom line being that right now there's no place for the majority of investment funds to go but down the tubes should the US cease selling its Treasury-bonds.
May not like it, but that's the way the way it is has been since the beginning of WWII. And it'll take at least that long to come up with a viable replacement... which takes us into the 22ndCentury.
Did I hear you say......BUY SILVER?
Results Presidential Race

*Obama* RE-ELECTED
274
49%/ 41,822,254
Romney
203
50%/ 42,540,568
625. j2008
Just posted this on my FB page "There goes the neighborhood, err country. Anybody see how divided our country is? Ridiculous. Split strait in half on matters of who should lead........ if history shows correct, nothing gets done when your society looks like this." Not bashing on either candidate, Congrats to Mr. Obama on winning and I wish him the best of luck.
Quoting goosegirl1:



Dress warmly- Keeper says it's cold up there!

It is only cold during the winter up here. In summer it can get pretty warm up here. I am very close to Canada.
Quoting clwstmchasr:


I don't have any pictures, emails, video, DNA, physical science of a man who walked the earth 2,000 years ago, died for my sins and ascended into heaven. Sometimes it takes faith over science.


Oh. My. God.
Quoting clwstmchasr:


I don't have any pictures, emails, video, DNA, physical science of a man who walked the earth 2,000 years ago, died for my sins and ascended into heaven. Sometimes it takes faith over science.


Politics and religion: I think this should stop here. The election is over.
Quoting goosegirl1:



Dress warmly- Keeper says it's cold up there!



its a little chilly

Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 11:00 PM EST Tuesday 6 November 2012
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 30.10 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 33.8°F
Dewpoint: 23.9°F
Humidity: 67 %
Wind: ENE 6 mph
Quoting beell:


Kinda like trying to figure out HOW to control our unbalanced climate, aint it?


Honestly, I think the budget will be easier to fix than the climate. But yeah, this world has problems. Always has, always will. But hey, I still have my good days. Always have, always will.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Oh. My. God.


Yes my son. You have a question?
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Yes my son. You have a question?


Sure do. How are you this fine evening, sir?
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


My 401K is way up. Does that count?


That's due to good analysts investing your stocks in short sells.
483 Bielle: Has a candidate from either party ever lost one presidential race and then run again for the post in the following election?

AdlaiStevenson lost to DwightEisenhower in 1952 and 1956
Quoting clwstmchasr:


I don't have any pictures, emails, video, DNA, physical science of a man who walked the earth 2,000 years ago, died for my sins and ascended into heaven. Sometimes it takes faith over science.


Facepalm...
Quoting Grothar:

Where did that image come from? Do they have a floater up on the Nor'easter?
Quoting MrMixon:


Honestly, I think the budget will be easier to fix than the climate. But yeah, this world has problems. Always has, always will. But hey, I still have my good days. Always have, always will.


This world would be boring without problems.
well congrats to both men and all the best to my friends in the united states of america


and congrats to all the bloggers a few jabs but nothing bad while admin allowed us to post the results


thanks
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:



its a little chilly

Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 11:00 PM EST Tuesday 6 November 2012
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 30.10 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 33.8°F
Dewpoint: 23.9°F
Humidity: 67 %
Wind: ENE 6 mph



Wow, it's colder here for once... 27 degrees F. If the precipitated from the new storm reaches this far inland, I may have a white morning.
Quoting Bielle:


Politics and religion: I think this should stop here. The election is over.
I agree we better go to weather again.
Quoting goosegirl1:



Wow, it's colder here for once... 27 degrees F. If the precipitation from the new storm reaches this far inland, I may have a white morning.




On a weather related note, Valerie better not ruin my vacation! No blogging till the 12th.
Quoting KoritheMan:


This world would be boring without problems.

Well, that's certainly one way to look at it. Probably a good one too.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Sure do. How are you this fine evening, sir?


Tired dude. Working a lot like you. Have two days off. Keep up the good work Kori.
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Well, that's certainly one way to look at it. Maybe the best way in fact.


Hey Ryan, what are your thoughts on the Nor'easter? Will it stay west, closer to the coast, or will it remain safely offshore?
Quoting KoritheMan:
On a weather related note, Valerie better not ruin my vacation! No blogging till the 12th.

Since the election is over, probably a good idea to slide toward weather talk anyway. I will make Valerie form just so you can come back.
Quoting clwstmchasr:


That's due to good analysts investing your stocks in short sells.


The Dow opened at 8,279.63 on the morning Obama took the oath of office.

Today, it stands at 13,245.
Quoting wxchaser97:

Since the election is over, probably a good idea to slide toward weather talk anyway. I will make Valerie form just so you can come back.


If you do that, you'd better send me another hurricane for 2013. Isaac gave me my fill this year, but I'm afraid my appetite ignites rather quickly.
Quoting allancalderini:
I agree we better go to weather again.


I also vote for weather.
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Where did that image come from? Do they have a floater up on the Nor'easter?


No, just look at anything I post and Civicane will post an almost identical one right after me. If you miss mine you can always look at his.
Quoting KoritheMan:


If you do that, you'd better send me another hurricane for 2013. Isaac gave me my fill this year, but I'm afraid my appetite ignites rather quickly.

I can only send myself to someone every six years and I will likely be retired anyway.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Tired dude. Working a lot like you. Have two days off. Keep up the good work Kori.


Had two days off as well (today is day 1 of 2). Oddly, the store is actually reducing hours. I'm no businessman, but I would think a more venerable tactic would be to increase them the closer one gets to the holidays, but perhaps that's just me...
Romney is contesting Ohio. No concession speech.
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Where did that image come from? Do they have a floater up on the Nor'easter?


The image is Mid-Atlantic. Here's the link.
Our Nor'easter in the making, hopefully it stays further out to sea.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Had to days off as well (today is day 1 of 2). Oddly, the store is actually reducing hours. I'm no businessman, but I would think a more venerable tactic would be to increase them the closer one gets to the holidays, but perhaps that's just me...


I am a Customer Service Manager. I am increasing hours and hiring new employees. Especially since the Slots in Palm Beach County has passed.
Quoting KoritheMan:


If you do that, you'd better send me another hurricane for 2013. Isaac gave me my fill this year, but I'm afraid my appetite ignites rather quickly.
Omg thank God you are not Honduran people would eat you alive for that thought.
Quoting Civicane49:
Nor'easter in the making.


Hey, I just said that-___-
lol it's ok.
Quoting allancalderini:
Omg thank God you are not Honduran people would eat you alive for that thought.


A lot of people eat me alive. I have an affinity for pissing people off. Don't worry. :)
hold evere thing Obama may or may not be the winner after all from what am seeing and hereing from cnn
Quoting Civicane49:


The image is Mid-Atlantic. Here's the link.


Hey Civi, here's one you missed.

I don't know if this has already been said, but the eastern NWS offices are off back-up and fully working again.
669. MTWX
Quoting KoritheMan:


Had two days off as well (today is day 1 of 2). Oddly, the store is actually reducing hours. I'm no businessman, but I would think a more venerable tactic would be to increase them the closer one gets to the holidays, but perhaps that's just me...


Just saving up for all that overtime they will have to give out once the holiday rush starts on Black Friday..
Quoting Grothar:


Hey Civi, here's one you missed.



That is the loop from this site.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Hey Ryan, what are your thoughts on the Nor'easter? Will it stay west, closer to the coast, or will it remain safely offshore?

Hey there Kori! I'm thinking it'll be a moderate event, but nothing too major. I'd say I'm kind of middle of the road on the event; close enough to the coast for coastal locations to occasionally have sustained gale force winds, but not close enough for it to cause too much more wind damage in the Sandy-stricken areas. I'd say the low will drop to the 980-983 mb range tomorrow evening and weaken thereafter as it slowly kicks off to the east. I don't think surge is going to be as bad as some of the predictions say it could be. I'd say 2-3 feet due to storm strength, location, and motion, but I'm not really familiar with that stretch of the coastline, so that is the area of my forecast I think I am most likely to whiff on. Precip/snow is also a difficult forecast, but I think snow will fall fairly close to the coast, but not directly on it. Maybe to Trenton or so will see snow. Areas inland from there could see a couple inches of snow, but I don't think anywhere except the most localized areas will see over 5". I do think it will be a heavy, wet snow though. Closer to the coast, it will be warmer and I think those locations will see somewhere between .5-.75" of rain, so I really don't see it being a rainfall event either, with most of the rain remaining near the warm core seclusion just off the coast.

So yeah, those are pretty much my thoughts right now.
Quoting Civicane49:


The image is Mid-Atlantic. Here's the link.

Sweet, I didn't know about that page. Thanks!
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Sweet, I didn't know about that page. Thanks!


No problem.
676. MTWX
Quoting Tazmanian:
hold evere thing Obama may or may not be the winner after all from what am seeing and hereing from cnn


It's over Taz... He may not actually have Ohio, but both Florida and Virginia are 95+% in and both are leaning toward Obama...
I could also see myself whiffing on my snow forecast as well. I've been historically bad on those.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I am a Customer Service Manager. I am increasing hours and hiring new employees. Especially since the Slots in Palm Beach County has passed.


Nobody can really decide why they're doing this. There are a lot of conflicting stories ranging from a lawsuit to Isaac to annual business tactics. I started exactly a year ago, and didn't have to deal with anything remotely similar to this. My first week was a 36 hour week, and I worked six days in a row.

I've always been privy to the lawsuit theory myself, but apparently over a dozen stores are on strike (or were a few weeks ago) that it makes me wonder if it's not a much deeper problem than they're letting us know, probably something on the district level.
Quoting MTWX:


Just saving up for all that overtime they will have to give out once the holiday rush starts on Black Friday..


They've pissed me off. I might just say no (as far as I know Walmart grants the right to refuse overtime).
03Z Surface Analysis from the HPC:

Quoting Grothar:


I just posted that one. :P
is the noreaster doing what everybody has been expecting? it looks like it's weaker and faster than predicted.
If you voted in favor of Obama, your a nut...

Quoting plutorising:
is the noreaster doing what everybody has been expecting? it looks like it's weaker and faster than predicted.


It's weaker.
Quoting MTWX:


It's over Taz... He may not actually have Ohio, but both Florida and Virginia are 95+% in and both are leaning toward Obama...



no its not overe some in is not right here
Quoting Allan012:
If you voted in favor of Obama, your a nut...




I think your the one that a nut
Quoting Civicane49:


I just posted that one. :P


You usually post the same right after me. I just thought I would do the same.
Just a warning to Romney lovers who are migrating to Canada:

1. We are far more left-wing than the US, even the liberal US.
2. Legalized gay marriage
3. Universal healthcare
4. High taxes for everyone
5. Obama is much more popular in Canada than in the US

So you guys are better off in Mexico than Canada.

That's all I'll say about the election. (congratz obama!)
Quoting Grothar:


You usually post the same right after me. I just thought I would do the same.


Oh okay. lol
Really nice diffluent upper jet for the time being.

Quoting yqt1001:
Just a warning to Romney lovers who are migrating to Canada:

1. We are far more left-wing than the US, even the liberal US.
2. Legalized gay marriage
3. Universal healthcare
4. High taxes for everyone
5. Obama is much more popular in Canada than in the US

So you guys are better off in Mexico than Canada.

That's all I'll say about the election. (congratz obama!)

Don't go tell that to Doppler22, he wouldn't want to move to Mexico.
Quoting wxchaser97:
Our Nor'easter in the making, hopefully it stays further out to sea.


You can see the moist/dry upper level subtropical jet running parallel to the Gulf Stream and feeding the storm to the south.
Quoting KoritheMan:


A lot of people eat me alive. I have an affinity for pissing people off. Don't worry. :)
hahahaa ok.
Can I post X-Mas videos yet?
Quoting Tazmanian:



I think your the one that a nut


I heard a cricket or two...
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Can I post X-Mas videos yet?


No wait until after Thanksgiving at least.
Maryland...Gay Marriage...Vote...Yes
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Can I post X-Mas videos yet?

Christmas music is already heard in my area and the stores already have Christmas stuff so yeah.

Quoting AstroHurricane001:


You can see the moist/dry upper level subtropical jet running parallel to the Gulf Stream and feeding the storm to the south.

I see it, feeding our storm. Hurricane wind warnings are in affect just off the coast and high wind warnings are in affect inland.
Quoting Grothar:


No wait until after Thanksgiving at least.


Or Black Friday...
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Summary
TROPICAL DISTURBANCE 01F
9:00 AM FST November 7 2012
=================================

At 21:00 PM UTC, Tropical Disturbance 01F (1003 hPa) located at 21.0S 176.0E. Position poor based on multispectral visible and peripheral surface observations. The disturbance is reported as moving southeast at 10 knots. Sea surface temperature is around 26C.

Tropical Disturbance 01 lies just to the east of an upper level trough in a high sheared environment. Global models have picked up the system and moves it southeastward with further development.

Potential for tropical disturbance 01 to develop into a tropical cyclone within the next 24 hours is LOW.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Can I post X-Mas videos yet?


At least wait after Thanksgiving.
Quoting Civicane49:


At least wait after Thanksgiving.


Bah ****ing humbug.*

*I am a firm Christmas advocate. I genuinely enjoy it. Just not before Thanksgiving.
HIGH RESOLUTION 00TO48 00Z/12Z RUNS ONLY
RUN 00Z HR 12

HIGH RESOLUTION 00TO48 00Z/12Z RUNS ONLY
RUN 00Z HR 15

Am I the only one who doesn't mind Christmas festivities before Thanksgiving here?
713. MTWX
Quoting Civicane49:


Is it just me or does the circulation look like it is not going to make offshore??

Judging by this loop, it looks like it is moving dang near due north in central Virginia...
HIGH RESOLUTION 00TO48 00Z/12Z RUNS ONLY
RUN 00Z HR 21

Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Can I post X-Mas videos yet?
NO! (please, no!)
HIGH RESOLUTION 00TO48 00Z/12Z RUNS ONLY
RUN 00Z HR 27

I really do like this water vapor image; it shows the big picture with this nor'easter very well, from the axis of the negatively tilted trough to the diffluence of the upper level flow promoting the growth of convection and lowering of surface pressures with the developing storm. It does only have about 24 hours to strengthen though, as the upper level low currently in the NC/VA area catches the surface low by then and begins to fill it when they become vertically stacked.

718. MTWX
Quoting wxchaser97:
Am I the only one who doesn't mind Christmas festivities before Thanksgiving here?


Heck the stores here had their Christmas stuff up before Halloween...
Quoting MTWX:


Is it just me or does the circulation look like it is not going to make offshore??

Judging by this loop, it looks like it is moving dang near due north in central Virginia...


The circulation is currently over land. But, it is forecasted to move more east and away from the shore.
Colorado and Washington State have approved the legalization of marijuana, Maryland legalized gay marriage, and Puerto Rico is currently favoring statehood. Big things have happened today besides Obama winning.
Quoting MTWX:


Heck the stores here had their Christmas stuff up before Halloween...

I have seen plenty of that around here(MI).
I wish one day people could just respect each others different beliefs. I did NOT agree with Romney/Ryan's beliefs on many many things (Especially as a woman), however, I respect those who do share their beliefs and voted for them. I will not call them ignorant or any other names. I am just still surprised at the divide between fellow human beings and our fellow Americans in so many things.

But with this finally all out of the way.. I know I am prepared for this next storm, regardless of its intensity. At least, as prepared as we can be. Re-stocked all of the supplies we used during Sandy and the power outage after her.

I knew the gas problem wouldn't go away overnight, but I am still surprised it honestly hasn't gotten ANY better here (on Long Island). The lines may actually be worse.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
HIGH RESOLUTION 00TO48 00Z/12Z RUNS ONLY
RUN 00Z HR 12


That's a really tight warm core seclusion in there. The high-res NAM derivatives have been showing that for a few runs now.
Quoting MTWX:


Heck the stores here had their Christmas stuff up before Halloween...


I saw one store that has some Christmas materials few days after Halloween.
Quoting VaStormGuy:
Colorado and Washington State have approved the legalization of marijuana, Maryland legalized gay marriage, and Puerto Rico is currently favoring statehood. Big things have happened today besides Obama winning.

I wouldn't mind having 51 states in the US and I support PR becoming a state.
Quoting MTWX:


Heck the stores here had their Christmas stuff up before Halloween...

I went to the store a couple of days after Halloween to get a bunch of cheap candy and the store was already stocked full of Christmas stuff. Ridiculous...
Quoting wxchaser97:

I wouldn't mind having 51 states in the US and I support PR becoming a state.


Maybe one day DC will be a state too.
Quoting wxchaser97:

I wouldn't mind having 51 states in the US and I support PR becoming a state.


I'm in favor of it for many reasons, the most important one being that maybe it'll dispel the retards who keep *****ing about storms that miss the US. We could say "No no no. Puerto Rico is a part of the United States now, remember?"

teehee
Quoting VaStormGuy:


Maybe one day DC will be a state too.

Maybe, also VA is taken by Obama.

Quoting KoritheMan:


I'm in favor of it for many reasons, the most important one being that maybe it'll dispel the retards who keep ****ing about storms that miss the US. We could say "No no no. Puerto Rico is a part of the United States now, remember?"

teehee

LOL!
Looks like Obama is going to win all of the swing states, the popular vote, and the Electoral College 332-206.
Hmm, all the Great Lakes States were taken by Obama. Indiana went to Romney and has the least coastline of all.
Pressure is currently dropping very quickly at buoy 41001 about 150 nm east of Hatteras, which according to the most recent surface analysis is very close to the center of our developing nor'easter. The pressure there looks like it will drop below 1000 mb (~29.53 in HG) very soon.

Quoting Slamguitar:
Hmm, all the Great Lakes States were taken by Obama. Indiana went to Romney and has the least coastline of all.

Ohio shouldn't even be considered a Great Lake state;) It is the bailout that lead to part of it. Also all of the props are losing in MI, with prop 1 very close.
The Milky Way’s black hole shoots out brightest flare ever
Posted on November 7, 2012
November 7, 2012 – SPACE - For some unknown reason, the black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy shoots out an X-ray flare about once a day. These flares last a few hours with the brightness ranging from a few times to nearly one hundred times that of the black hole’s regular output. But back in February 2012, astronomers using the Chandra X-Ray Observatory detected the brightest flare ever observed from the central black hole, also known as Sagittarius A*. The flare, recorded 26,000 light years away, was 150 times brighter than the black hole’s normal luminosity. What causes these outbursts? Scientists aren’t sure. But Sagittarius A* doesn’t seem to be slowing down, even though as black holes age they should show a decrease in activity. –Universe Today

25 dead, thousands displaced by flooding in southern India
Posted on November 7, 2012
November 7, 2012 – INDIA – Torrential rains in the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh have killed at least 25 people and displaced tens of thousands of villagers over the past week, an official said Monday. Downpours triggered by a cyclone that hit the coast last Wednesday near Chennai left hundreds of villages inundated and 60,000 people in relief camps, Karikal Valaven, a government officer overseeing emergency operations, said. “At least 25 people have died and thousands have lost their houses. The rains have damaged all the standing crops in the coastal region,” he told AFP. Disaster response teams helped move people to higher ground in rubber boats and nearly 100 shelters were opened across the state to accommodate people fleeing the flood zone. “The unseasonal rainfall has destroyed our crops and our entire field is submerged in water,” Arku Rajaipa, a farmer in Guntur district, one of the worst-affected regions, told a local TV news channel. “We will have to depend on the government for food the whole year.” Cyclone Nilam struck 50 kilometres (30 miles) south of Chennai last week in the neighbouring state of Tamil Nadu before moving inland, killing at least 10 people. The Andhra Pradesh state government said in a statement that it had handed out 100,000 food packets. Authorities on Monday said many villages had been cut off for days. “The biggest task is to establish contact with 130 villages. They are safe but have suffered big losses as all their rice crop has been destroyed,” Valaven said. All trains were suspended from the coastal cities of Visakhapatnam and Vijaywada, a major transit route in the region. The meteorological office has forecast more rain, and people from low-lying areas have been advised to head to shelters. In September two million people were forced to flee their homes in the north-eastern state of Assam after floods triggered by heavy monsoon rains. –Space Daily
This is the same graph I posted earlier, except in millibars (which I find much more readable and like much more).



Notice the ~15 mb drop in 24 hours here.
701 GeoffreyWPB: Can I post X-Mas videos yet?

It's not post-Christmas yet. Wait until January5th.
716 KEEPEROFTHEGATE: HIGH RESOLUTION 00TO48 00Z/12Z RUNS ONLY -- RUN 00Z HR 27
723 1900hurricane: That's a really tight warm core seclusion in there. The high-res NAM derivatives have been showing that for a few runs now.

980millibar? Time to call Invest91L?
Quoting SyriboTigereyes:
I wish one day people could just respect each others different beliefs. I did NOT agree with Romney/Ryan's beliefs on many many things (Especially as a woman), however, I respect those who do share their beliefs and voted for them. I will not call them ignorant or any other names. I am just still surprised at the divide between fellow human beings and our fellow Americans in so many things.

But with this finally all out of the way.. I know I am prepared for this next storm, regardless of its intensity. At least, as prepared as we can be. Re-stocked all of the supplies we used during Sandy and the power outage after her.

I knew the gas problem wouldn't go away overnight, but I am still surprised it honestly hasn't gotten ANY better here (on Long Island). The lines may actually be worse.

It got worse because your governor didn't impose a 10 gallon per fillup limit and impose odd-even rationing. Christie finally did this last Saturday, but it should have been done the first day after the storm. The panic buying would have been under control by now by simply doing a few common sense things that have been used successfully when we've had other gas shortages.
Quoting aspectre:
716 KEEPEROFTHEGATE: HIGH RESOLUTION 00TO48 00Z/12Z RUNS ONLY -- RUN 00Z HR 27
723 1900hurricane: That's a really tight warm core seclusion in there. The high-res NAM derivatives have been showing that for a few runs now.

980millibar? Time to call Invest91L?

No 91L; just because it may have a tight warm core when mature doesn't mean that it is tropical. It will still be deriving most of it's energy from baroclinic forcing and fronts will still be attached.

Latest surface analysis with rainbow IR overlay:

Check out the hi-res simulated radars for 11/8 @10am.








Eye-like feature quite apparent.
Based on the 03Z surface analysis from the HPC and continued development of the storm, the surface low is now probably near the SSE edge of the deepest convection (near 36.25*N and 72.5*W using a decimal coordinate system) and with a pressure of ~998 mb or so. It'll be interesting to see how close I am when the HPC releases their 06Z surface analysis.

Quoting sullivanweather:
Check out the hi-res simulated radars for 11/8 @10am.








Eye-like feature quite apparent.

Really interesting to see if it verifies. Here are some closer looks at it, courtesy of the PSU E-Wall, same time frame (@39 hours), NNM on the left and ARW on the right:



Closer look at the simulated radar



10m winds show a compact core almost like a tropical system, although it is still attached to a frontal boundary as seen by the convergence extending to the ENE of the circulation



1000-500 mb thickness definitely shows it as a warm core system...



...as does 2m temperature (along with the front extending ENE)...



...and 850 mb temps.
If the high res models are to be believed, we should be about here right now:



Quoting 1900hurricane:
Based on the 03Z surface analysis from the HPC and continued development of the storm, the surface low is now probably near the SSE edge of the deepest convection (near 36.25*N and 72.5*W using a decimal coordinate system) and with a pressure of ~998 mb or so. It'll be interesting to see how close I am when the HPC releases their 06Z surface analysis.


Looks like I was pretty darn close! The low is very near where I thought it would be analyzed, and 2 mb deeper than I progged. I'd call that respectable.

Coastal Storm Set to Impact the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast

A developing storm off the East Coast will bring heavy rain, wet snow and gusty winds to parts of the Northeast through Thursday. Winds could blow down trees and limbs weakened from Sandy, resulting in additional power outages. A wintery mix of precipitation is expected from northern Maryland to central New England. A couple of inches of snow will be possible, especially at higher elevations.
Yesterday, the 47% of americans whom Romney does not care about Spoke loud and clear..4 more years..........yesterday, the women spoke..4 more years...talk about a supposed smart guy shooting himself in the foot.
ANZ083-ANZ272-ANZ273-ANZ370-071430-
SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND...FROM THE GREAT SOUTH CHANNEL TO HUDSON
CANYON INCLUDING THE WATERS SOUTH OF MARTHAS VINEYARD AND
NANTUCKET ISLAND...OUT TO 1000 FM
300 AM EST WED NOV 07 2012

...HURRICANE FORCE WIND WARNING...

.TODAY...NE WINDS 30 TO 40 KT INCREASING TO 50 TO 65 KT...THEN
OVER E PORTION DIMINISHING TO E TO SE 35 TO 50 KT. SEAS 7 TO 11
FT BUILDING TO 20 TO 28 FT. HIGHEST WINDS AND SEAS W. RAIN. A
CHANCE OF TSTMS E PORTION.
.TONIGHT...WINDS BECOMING N 45 TO 55 KT...EXCEPT E OF 71W
BECOMING S AND DIMINISHING TO 30 TO 40 KT LATE. SEAS SUBSIDING
TO 15 TO 22 FT. AREAS OF RAIN. A CHANCE OF TSTMS E PORTION.
.THU...WINDS BECOMING NW 30 TO 40 KT THROUGHOUT. SEAS SUBSIDING
TO 12 TO 18 FT...HIGHEST SE. ISOLATED SHOWERS.
.THU NIGHT...NW WINDS DIMINISHING TO 25 TO 35 KT LATE. SEAS
SUBSIDING TO 8 TO 14 FT. HIGHEST WINDS AND SEAS E. A CHANCE OF
SHOWERS.
.FRI...N TO NW WINDS DIMINISHING TO 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS SUBSIDING
TO 3 TO 5 FT...EXCEPT E OF 72W TO 5 TO 8 FT.
.SAT...WINDS DIMINISHING TO VARIABLE 10 KT OR LESS. SEAS
SUBSIDING TO 2 TO 3 FT.
.SUN...WINDS BECOMING S TO SW 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 3 FT.
$$

.FORECASTER CLARK. OCEAN PREDICTION CENTER.
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
329 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...A HIGH WIND WARNING AND WIND ADVISORY REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR
TODAY AND TONIGHT...

.STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE EAST OF THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST EARLY
THIS MORNING IS EXPECTED TO TRACK NORTH TO A POSITION OFF THE NEW
JERSEY COAST THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THE STORM WILL PULL AWAY
FROM THE REGION LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY.

THE STRONG NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS WILL AFFECT THE REGION TODAY
AND TONIGHT. THOSE AREAS THAT WERE SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED BY SANDY
LAST WEEK WILL BE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE HIGH WINDS.

DEZ001-002-MDZ008-012-015-019-020-NJZ008>010-012- 015>019-021-
PAZ067>071-072200-
/O.CON.KPHI.WI.Y.0011.121107T1100Z-121108T1100Z/
NEW CASTLE-KENT-CECIL-KENT MD-QUEEN ANNES-TALBOT-CAROLINE-MORRIS-
HUNTERDON-SOMERSET-MIDDLESEX-MERCER-SALEM-GLOUCES TER-CAMDEN-
NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-CUMBERLAND-CHESTER-MONTGOMERY-BUCKS-
DELAWARE-PHILADELPHIA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILMINGTON...DOVER...ELKTON...
CHESTERTOWN...CENTREVILLE...EASTON...DENTON...MOR RISTOWN...
FLEMINGTON...SOMERVILLE...NEW BRUNSWICK...TRENTON...PENNSVILLE...
GLASSBORO...CAMDEN...CHERRY HILL...MOORESTOWN...MOUNT HOLLY...
MILLVILLE...WEST CHESTER...NORRISTOWN...DOYLESTOWN...MEDIA...
PHILADELPHIA
329 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST THURSDAY...

* WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* THIS IS A POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS SITUATION...ESPECIALLY FOR THE
AREAS THAT WERE HARD HIT BY THE STORM LAST WEEK.

* TIMING...THE STRONGEST WINDS SHOULD OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON AND
THIS EVENING.

* IMPACTS...STRUCTURES AND TREES WEAKENED BY THE STORM LAST WEEK
MAY BE FURTHER DAMAGED BY ANOTHER ROUND OF STRONG WINDS. THIS
COULD ALSO RESULT IN RENEWED POWER OUTAGES...PARTICULARLY IN
AREAS WHERE THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM REMAINS IN A WEAKENED STATE.
ANY LEFT OVER DEBRIS FROM LAST WEEKS STORM COULD BECOME A
HAZARD DURING THIS NEW STORM... ESPECIALLY IF IT IS LIGHT
ENOUGH TO BECOME AIRBORNE.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND ADVISORY MEANS THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR STRONG WINDS
WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH OR GREATER. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE
LATEST FORECASTS. IF POSSIBLE... NOW IS THE TIME TO BRING IN OR
SECURE OUTDOOR ITEMS THAT COULD BE BLOWN AROUND IN THE STRONG
WINDS.

MOTORISTS SHOULD USE EXTRA CAUTION...ESPECIALLY THOSE IN HIGH
PROFILE VEHICLES. LIGHT-WEIGHT OUTDOOR OBJECTS SUCH AS PATIO
FURNITURE AND GARBAGE CANS SHOULD BE SECURED.

&&

$$
Quoting Slamguitar:
Hmm, all the Great Lakes States were taken by Obama. Indiana went to Romney and has the least coastline of all.
Did anyone here watch Weatherbrains yesterday. Jeff Piotrowski was on the show talking about what he saw along the coastlines in the effected areas. He said in his opinion it's worse than Katrina. The only reason why there is not as much media attention about it is cause of the election and now that it's over the news about the devastation that Sandy brought will start to be brought out. Have a watch here for yourself.
Good Morning Folks..7-Day for the Tampa Bay area......
Quoting aspectre:
SuperstormSandy
..out in the ocean they are finding hurricane force wind s and gusts..hope this stays offshore
NAEFS model spread at 12 hours.....................
1 minJoe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi

Noreaster: WINTER STORM WARNING! now around PHL with Hurricane Wind Warning offshore, storm on coast. Says it all! http://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/266125974 482087936/photo/1
Hurricane Force Wind Warning
ANZ084-ANZ470-071500-
HUDSON CANYON TO BALTIMORE CANYON INCLUDING THE WATERS W OF
39.3N 71.9W...SW TO 37.7N 72.9W
400 AM EST WED NOV 07 2012

...HURRICANE FORCE WIND WARNING...

.TODAY...N TO NE WINDS 35 TO 45 KT INCREASING TO 50 TO 65 KT...
THEN BECOMING N TO NW. SEAS 10 TO 17 FT BUILDING TO 20 TO 28 FT.
AREAS OF RAIN. A CHANCE OF TSTMS FAR E.
.TONIGHT...N TO NW WINDS DIMINISHING TO 35 TO 45 KT. SEAS 13 TO
23 FT SUBSIDING TO 12 TO 17 FT. AREAS OF RAIN. A CHANCE OF TSTMS
FAR NE.
.THU...NW WINDS DIMINISHING TO 20 TO 30 KT. SEAS SUBSIDING TO 8
TO 13 FT...HIGHEST E. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS.
.THU NIGHT...NW WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. SEAS SUBSIDING TO 7 TO 10 FT.
.FRI...NW WINDS DIMINISHING TO 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS SUBSIDING TO 3
TO 5 FT.
.SAT...WINDS DIMINISHING TO VARIABLE 10 KT OR LESS. SEAS
SUBSIDING TO 2 TO 4 FT.
.SUN...WINDS BECOMING S TO SW 10 KT OR LESS. SEAS 2 TO 3 FT.
$$
ANZ083-ANZ272-ANZ273-ANZ370-071430-
SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND...FROM THE GREAT SOUTH CHANNEL TO HUDSON
CANYON INCLUDING THE WATERS SOUTH OF MARTHAS VINEYARD AND
NANTUCKET ISLAND...OUT TO 1000 FM
300 AM EST WED NOV 07 2012

...HURRICANE FORCE WIND WARNING...

.TODAY...NE WINDS 30 TO 40 KT INCREASING TO 50 TO 65 KT...THEN
OVER E PORTION DIMINISHING TO E TO SE 35 TO 50 KT. SEAS 7 TO 11
FT BUILDING TO 20 TO 28 FT. HIGHEST WINDS AND SEAS W. RAIN. A
CHANCE OF TSTMS E PORTION.
.TONIGHT...WINDS BECOMING N 45 TO 55 KT...EXCEPT E OF 71W
BECOMING S AND DIMINISHING TO 30 TO 40 KT LATE. SEAS SUBSIDING
TO 15 TO 22 FT. AREAS OF RAIN. A CHANCE OF TSTMS E PORTION.
.THU...WINDS BECOMING NW 30 TO 40 KT THROUGHOUT. SEAS SUBSIDING
TO 12 TO 18 FT...HIGHEST SE. ISOLATED SHOWERS.
.THU NIGHT...NW WINDS DIMINISHING TO 25 TO 35 KT LATE. SEAS
SUBSIDING TO 8 TO 14 FT. HIGHEST WINDS AND SEAS E. A CHANCE OF
SHOWERS.
.FRI...N TO NW WINDS DIMINISHING TO 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS SUBSIDING
TO 3 TO 5 FT...EXCEPT E OF 72W TO 5 TO 8 FT.
.SAT...WINDS DIMINISHING TO VARIABLE 10 KT OR LESS. SEAS
SUBSIDING TO 2 TO 3 FT.
.SUN...WINDS BECOMING S TO SW 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 3 FT.
$$


Winter Storm Warning
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
340 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

DEZ001-NJZ016>019-PAZ070-071-072200-
/O.UPG.KPHI.WW.Y.0004.121107T1100Z-121108T1100Z/
/O.NEW.KPHI.WS.W.0002.121107T1100Z-121108T1100Z/
NEW CASTLE-SALEM-GLOUCESTER-CAMDEN-NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-
DELAWARE-PHILADELPHIA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILMINGTON...PENNSVILLE...GLASSBORO...
CAMDEN...CHERRY HILL...MOORESTOWN...MOUNT HOLLY...MEDIA...
PHILADELPHIA
340 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST THURSDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
THURSDAY. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 3 TO 5 INCHES.

* TIMING...LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW WILL DEVELOP THIS MORNING...AND
BECOME STEADIER LATER THIS MORNING. AS THE PRECIPITATION FALLS
MORE HEAVILY THIS AFTERNOON...THE PRECIPITATION WILL TAKE THE
FORM OF SNOW...AND THE SNOW MAY FALL HEAVILY AT TIMES THIS
AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING.

* IMPACTS...AS THE PRECIPITATION FALLS MORE HEAVILY AND CHANGES TO
SNOW...ACCUMULATIONS ON COLDER SURFACES IS EXPECTED. DURING THE
HEAVIEST OF THE SNOWFALL...SECONDARY ROADS ARE EXPECTED TO
BECOME SNOW COVERED AND SLICK. MAIN ARTERIES MAY EXPERIENCE SOME
SLICK SPOTS AS WELL...MAINLY DURING THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON.

* WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* VISIBILITIES...ONE QUARTER TO ONE HALF MILE AT TIMES.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE MID 30S...BUT TEMPERATURES MAY FALL BACK
CLOSE TO THE FREEZING MARK DURING THE HEAVIEST SNOWFALL.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.
8 minJoe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi

In the meantime, as per weatherbell idea, the noreaster is here. Hurricane wind warnings offshore,storm warnings coast, snow inland
Quoting KoritheMan:


Bah ****ing humbug.*

*I am a firm Christmas advocate. I genuinely enjoy it. Just not before Thanksgiving.


makes me miss Thanksgiving even more over here...nothing between Halloween and xmas! And halloween is still pretty minor here (though getting bigger) so some places go straight to xmas in September LOL
Winds are really starting to pick up. Something was banging against the house and woke me up. I'm groggy, but I'll have to go out and check it.
Good morning/evening, all. Back to being a little chilly here, 46 degrees. I'm afraid this new storm in the NE is going to really complicate clean up and restoring power to those still without power.
AccuWeather.com‏@breakingweather

MT @accu_adrienne: United Airlines has canceled 500 flights starting noon today - noon Thursday out of EWR, JFK & LGA airports
Quoting klaatuborada:
Winds are really starting to pick up. Something was banging against the house and woke me up. I'm groggy, but I'll have to go out and check it.

Um, why didn't you go out and check before coming on here, Priorities!!!!
Quoting aislinnpaps:
Good morning/evening, all. Back to being a little chilly here, 46 degrees. I'm afraid this new storm in the NE is going to really complicate clean up and restoring power to those still without power.

Good Evening,
Mike Bettes ‏@TWCMikeBettes
Total power outages after #Sandy is now down to 636,000.
This is NOT good for those poor people up there.......COASTAL HAZARD MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
326 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...A STRONG COASTAL STORM IS EXPECTED FOR WEDNESDAY INTO
WEDNESDAY NIGHT...

.STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE EAST OF THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST EARLY
THIS MORNING IS EXPECTED TO TRACK NORTH TO A POSITION OFF THE NEW
JERSEY COAST THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THE STORM WILL PULL AWAY
FROM THE REGION LATE TONIGHT AND THURSDAY.
...COASTAL FLOOD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM THIS
MORNING TO 8 AM EST THURSDAY...

* LOCATION...COASTAL AREAS OF NEW JERSEY AND DELAWARE AND ALONG
DELAWARE BAY.

* COASTAL FLOODING...MODERATE FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED AROUND THE
TIMES OF HIGH TIDE TODAY AND TONIGHT. WATER LEVELS MAY NOT
RECEDE MUCH BETWEEN THE TWO HIGH TIDES.

* AT SANDY HOOK... NEW JERSEY (SANDY HOOK BAY) HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT
118 PM...WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 7.5 TO 8.0 FEET ABOVE
MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 212 AM THURSDAY...
WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 8.0 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW
WATER.

* AT SEASIDE HEIGHTS... NEW JERSEY (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS
AT 1248 PM...WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL 7.0 TO 7.5 FEET ABOVE
MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 142 AM THURSDAY...
WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW
WATER.

* AT ATLANTIC CITY... NEW JERSEY (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT
101 PM...WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN
LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 157 AM THURSDAY... WITH A
FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* AT CAPE MAY... NEW JERSEY (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 135
PM...WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 8.0 TO 8.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN
LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 231 AM THURSDAY... WITH A
FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 8.0 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* AT BREAKWATER HARBOR... DELAWARE (DELAWARE BAY) HIGH TIDE OCCURS
AT 221 PM... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET ABOVE
MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 302 AM THURSDAY...
WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 7.0 TO 7.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER
LOW WATER.

* AT REHOBOTH BEACH... DELAWARE (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT
133 PM...WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN
LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 207 AM THURSDAY...WITH A
FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 7.0 TO 7.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW
WATER.

* HIGH TIDE ON THE BACK BAYS...ALONG DELAWARE BAY AND ALONG
RARITAN BAY OCCURS LATER THAN THE HIGH TIDE ON THE OCEANFRONT.

* SEAS...WAVE HEIGHTS IN THE SURF ZONE ALONG THE COAST ARE
EXPECTED TO BUILD INTO THE 6 TO 10 FOOT RANGE. WAVE HEIGHTS ON
DELAWARE BAY SHOULD BE IN THE 2 TO 6 FOOT RANGE.

* IMPACTS...NUMEROUS ROADWAYS WILL FLOOD AND ADDITIONAL MINOR TO
MODERATE PROPERTY DAMAGE IS POSSIBLE. THE ELEVATED TIDES WILL
HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON RECOVERY EFFORTS. THE TIDES AND THE
WAVE ACTION WILL RESULT IN ADDITIONAL MODERATE TO MAJOR BEACH
EROSION.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THIS COASTAL FLOOD WARNING INDICATES THAT MODERATE TIDAL FLOODING
IS IMMINENT. BE PREPARED FOR RISING WATER LEVELS AND TAKE
APPROPRIATE ACTION TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY. FOLLOW THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS.

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE THROUGH FLOOD WATERS. THE WATER MAY BE
DEEPER THAN YOU THINK IT IS. YOU WILL BE PUTTING YOURSELF IN
DANGER AND YOUR VEHICLE MAY BE DAMAGED... LEADING TO COSTLY
REPAIRS.

FOR A LIST OF THE IMPACT OF DIFFERENT TIDE HEIGHTS IN YOUR
COUNTY... PLEASE GO TO WWW.WEATHER.GOV/PHI/TIDES.HTM (ALL IN
LOWER CASE).

&&

$$
COASTAL HAZARD MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
450 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...STRONG COASTAL STORM WILL PRODUCE WIDESPREAD MODERATE TO
LOCALIZED MAJOR COASTAL FLOODING THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT...

NJZ006-106-108-NYZ072-074-071800-
/O.CON.KOKX.CF.W.0004.121107T1600Z-121108T1100Z/
HUDSON-EASTERN ESSEX-EASTERN UNION-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-
RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-
450 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...COASTAL FLOOD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM THIS
MORNING TO 6 AM EST THURSDAY...

* LOCATIONS...NEW YORK HARBOR.

* TIDAL DEPARTURES...AROUND 3.5 FEET THIS AFTERNOON AND
AROUND 3 FT LATE TONIGHT.

* BEACH EROSION...LARGE BREAKING WAVES OF 8 TO 12 FEET ON TOP OF
ANY SURGE COULD CAUSE SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL BEACH EROSION AND
OVERWASH.

* TIMING...AROUND THE TIMES OF HIGH TIDE EARLY THIS AFTERNOON AND
AGAIN AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT.

* IMPACTS...MODERATE COASTAL FLOODING IS EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON.
MINOR COASTAL FLOODING TO LOCALIZED MODERATE COASTAL FLOODING IS
EXPECTED LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO EARLY THURSDAY MORNING.
LOCALLY MAJOR FLOODING COULD OCCUR IN PLACES DUE TO CHANGES TO
UNDERWATER SLOPES AND/OR LOSS OF PROTECTIVE DUNES BOTH CAUSED BY
SANDY. WIDESPREAD FLOODING OF VULNERABLE SHORE ROADS AND/OR
BASEMENTS WILL HAMPER RECOVERY EFFORTS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A COASTAL FLOOD WARNING MEANS THAT FLOODING IS EXPECTED OR
OCCURRING. COASTAL RESIDENTS IN THE WARNED AREA SHOULD BE ALERT
FOR RISING WATER...AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO PROTECT LIFE
AND PROPERTY.

...NY HARBOR WATER LEVELS FOR THIS AFTERNOON...

COASTAL............TIME OF......FORECAST TOTAL.....FLOOD......
LOCATION...........HIGH TIDE.....WATER LEVEL.......CATEGORY... ...
................................(MLLW)........... ..........

THE BATTERY NYC.....137 PM...........7.55-8.05.....MODERATE...
BERGEN POINT NY.....128 PM...........8.25-8.75.....MODERATE...

...NY HARBOR WATER LEVELS FOR LATE TONIGHT...

COASTAL............TIME OF......FORECAST TOTAL.....FLOOD......
LOCATION...........HIGH TIDE.....WATER LEVEL.......CATEGORY... ...
................................(MLLW)........... ..........

THE BATTERY NYC.....241 AM...........6.5-7.6.......MINOR......
BERGEN POINT NY.....230 AM...........7.2-8.3.......MINOR......

...OCEAN WATER LEVELS FOR THIS AFTERNOON...

COASTAL............TIME OF......FORECAST TOTAL.....FLOOD......
LOCATION...........HIGH TIDE.....WATER LEVEL.......CATEGORY... ...
................................(MLLW)........... ..........

MONTAUK POINT NY....312 PM...........5.45-5.95.....MODERATE...

...OCEAN WATER LEVELS FOR LATE TONIGHT...

COASTAL............TIME OF......FORECAST TOTAL.....FLOOD......
LOCATION...........HIGH TIDE.....WATER LEVEL.......CATEGORY... ...
................................(MLLW)........... ..........

MONTAUK POINT NY....352 AM...........4.0-5.1.......MINOR......

&&

$$
What happened to this storm NOT being as bad as thought?..moderate to Major flooding in and around NYC is the current Warning..they are finding Hurricane force winds offshore now..sounds Bad to me
Quoting wxchaser97:
Am I the only one who doesn't mind Christmas festivities before Thanksgiving here?


nope not the only one ... i love x-mas. after Remembrance day we Canucks get right into it.
AccuWeather.com‏@breakingweather

Philadelphia has not had 2" of snow in November since 1995; that could change later today into tonight
Quoting VaStormGuy:
Colorado and Washington State have approved the legalization of marijuana, Maryland legalized gay marriage, and Puerto Rico is currently favoring statehood. Big things have happened today besides Obama winning.
WHY are you posting this cr*p on a weather forum!? Go somewhere else and post.
Quoting wxchaser97:

I wouldn't mind having 51 states in the US and I support PR becoming a state.
It's not up to you, so go chase a storm!
Back to teaching today. Everyone have a wonderful Wednesday!
765 AussieStorm: Um, why didn't you go out and check before coming on here, Priorities!!!!

Clearing out the sleepies first. Short of a scream or a fire or substantial building movement, I can't think of a single thing that'd make me go out into a blustery dawn while still groggy. Whereas according to presslord and pottery, a ration of grog can only help when visiting the Wunderground.
lest we forget.............................
Here's a good read for our government when they decide to make more cuts to the NWS.

Link
Quoting Waltanater:
WHY are you posting this cr*p on a weather forum!? Go somewhere else and post.


give him a break... this is exciting times. Everyone has been talking about politics if you havn't noticed...
Congratz to all the Obama supporters. It was one heck of a race.
VERY good read Chuck, thanks!
Amazing for so early in November......................WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
THURSDAY...

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...1 TO 4 INCHES.

* TIMING...LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW WILL DEVELOP THIS MORNING...AND
CONTINUE INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS. WHEN THE PRECIPITATION FALLS
MORE STEADILY AND HEAVILY...IT WILL PRIMARILY TAKE THE FORM OF
SNOW. THE MIXED PRECIPITATION SHOULD CHANGE TO MAINLY RAIN
TONIGHT.

* IMPACTS...TEMPERATURES IN THE MID TO TO UPPER 30S ARE FORECAST...SO
ANY ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED ON COLDER SURFACES. AS TEMPERATURES
COOL BACK TOWARD FREEZING TONIGHT...THERE COULD BE SOME SLICK
SPOTS ON MAINLY SECONDARY ROADS. TREATED ROADWAYS SHOULD REMAIN
MOSTLY ICE FREE.

* WINDS...NORTH 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER TO MID 30S.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR
FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR
SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE
DRIVING.

&&

$$
788. MahFL
Convection fireing near the center, and more yellow on the radar approaching Long Island.
Quoting MahFL:
Convection fireing near the center, and more yellow on the radar approaching Long Island.
..looks like more power outages and flooding once again there..mother nature striking the same place twice gee
Damaging winds later today and tonight across Long Island, New York City, and coastal Connecticut.
Quoting Waltanater:
WHY are you posting this cr*p on a weather forum!? Go somewhere else and post.
Political statements were authorized by admin last night. whether or not that extends into today I don't know but that could be the reason this post was made.
...HIGH WIND WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 4 AM EST THURSDAY...

* LOCATIONS...NEW YORK CITY...LONG ISLAND...COASTAL CONNECTICUT...HUDSON COUNTY...AND SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.

* HAZARDS...DAMAGING WINDS.

* WINDS...NORTH 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 60 MPH.

* TIMING...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.

* IMPACTS...WINDS OF THIS MAGNITUDE WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DOWNED TREES AND POWER LINES...AS WELL AS MINOR PROPERTY DAMAGE.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A HIGH WIND WARNING MEANS A HAZARDOUS HIGH WIND EVENT IS EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. SUSTAINED WIND SPEEDS OF AT LEAST 40 MPH OR GUSTS OF 58 MPH OR MORE CAN LEAD TO PROPERTY DAMAGE.

&&
Quoting Dragod66:


give him a break... this is exciting times. Everyone has been talking about politics if you havn't noticed...
Not on here they haven't. You know it's not fair to those people who have spoken about non-weather related issues on this blog in the past and be berated and blasted for doing so. What makes HIM so special? Sorry, take it else where.
Quoting Waltanater:
Not on here they haven't. You know it's not fair to those people who have spoken about non-weather related issues on this blog in the past and be berated and blasted for doing so. What makes HIM so special? Sorry, take it else where.

Uhm...you might want to read back some. A majority of the discussion on here last night and this morning has been about politics.

Congratulations Obama...you weren't the candidate I was hoping for, but maybe you'll get America on the right track.


Barney Alert!
Mike Bettes ‏@TWCMikeBettes
*Breaking News* - @weatherchannel has just named it's 1st winter storm #Athena
Winter Storm Athena:

Quoting AussieStorm:
Mike Bettes ‏@TWCMikeBettes
*Breaking News* - @weatherchannel has just named it's 1st winter storm #Athena


Just stupid
ANZ084-ANZ470-071500-
HUDSON CANYON TO BALTIMORE CANYON INCLUDING THE WATERS W OF
39.3N 71.9W...SW TO 37.7N 72.9W
400 AM EST WED NOV 07 2012

...HURRICANE FORCE WIND WARNING...

.TODAY...N TO NE WINDS 35 TO 45 KT INCREASING TO 50 TO 65 KT...
THEN BECOMING N TO NW. SEAS 10 TO 17 FT BUILDING TO 20 TO 28 FT.
AREAS OF RAIN. A CHANCE OF TSTMS FAR E.
So how do the results of the election affect the likelihood of budget cuts to the remote sensing community? Did Sandy's October surprise guarantee continued funding for weather prediction/forecast programs?
Based on the advertising last night, I thought the election was sponsored by "clean coal".
I'm thankful both that I got to vote and that Florida's typical inability to complete a count was rendered irrelevant to the presidential election based on electoral count. So my vote hasn’t counted yet.
Based on the explicit use of the phrase "the Admins will allow discussion of election results this evening", I'd say the political chit-chat is off-limits again, save for those "...in reference to science, science policy, or the blog topic". (Though Dr. Masters did write, "Be sure to vote today", so I'm not completely sure.)

Admin

Having said that, personal attacks are always forbidden, so if you see a comment you dislike, there's no need for screaming and insulting; just ignore it.
Quoting AussieStorm:
Mike Bettes ‏@TWCMikeBettes
*Breaking News* - @weatherchannel has just named it's 1st winter storm #Athena
That's excellent, and expected. I'm sure there'll be a ton of people on today saying it's stupid or pretentious or arrogant of whatever for TWC to give names to winter storms, but TWC's primary goal will have been met: getting people to talk about a particular storm. And since forewarned is forearmed, that can only help...
Maybe some sleet mixed in?.....

Southwest Jersey Under a Winter Storm Warning 3-6 inches of sleet and snow...


Click Picture above for LINK

Quoting Neapolitan:
That's excellent, and expected. I'm sure there'll be a ton of people on today saying it's stupid or pretentious or arrogant of whatever for TWC to give names to winter storms, but TWC's primary goal will have been met: getting people to talk about a particular storm. And since forewarned is forearmed, that can only help...


Thats the problem, it should have been named yesterday. Headline: HELLO, THE STORM IS ALREADY HAPPENING. Final prep should have been done. Lets see who else TWC can cut from their payroll.
I am starting my own winter storm nomenclature system. Why? Because I can. I am going to call this one Alexandra. I am also going to make up my own zip codes and rename all the roads where I live.
Winter Storm Alexandra beginning to sling in some wintry precip of the coast here.

Get ready, Folks.

Models still robust on Alexandra fetching a 12 hour period of gusty winds from the ENE only exasperating surge for Sandy devastated areas.

06Z GFS

Morning ainslinaps (lilElla), btw. Morning to you.
810. atris
Quoting TomballTXPride:
Winter Storm Alexandra beginning to swing in some precip of the coast here.

Get ready, Folks.



LOL on Alexandra ...

But yes I sure hope the folks will be ready and safe

It looks Nasty

Philly 3-6" inches from Alexandra. Gotta think they'll be some extensive tree damage from weakened limbs Sandy caused. Luckily, most deciduous trees have dropped their leaves...especially the weaker trees like Poplar, Cottonwood, Willow, and Silver Maple. Hopefully will keep power outages to a minimum.
Athena, please be kind everyone. Readers that have loved ones in Point Pleasant we are seeing on the news they built 10 ft dunes that stretch 8 blocks.

We all got together to clean up as much debris. During that clean up we found a full 200 lb propane tank across the street along the treeline. I am glad that is now in safe hands.

So many people still without power. Those that can be in their homes have lifted their generators up to higher ground just in case we flood. We are 6 ft above sea-level so we are not taking a chance. We will see how it all turns out in 6-12 hrs.

Good luck to all in Athena's path.
Quoting Chucktown:


Thats the problem, it should have been named yesterday. Headline: HELLO, THE STORM IS ALREADY HAPPENING. Final prep should have been done. Lets see who else TWC can cut from their payroll.

Agree, Chuck.
HPC Days 1-2 from our storm.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Quoting JerseyShoreGirl:
Athena, please be kind everyone. Readers that have loved ones in Point Pleasant we are seeing on the news they built 10 ft dunes that stretch 8 blocks.

We all got together to clean up as much debris. During that clean up we found a full 200 lb propane tank across the street along the treeline. I am glad that is now in safe hands.

So many people still without power. Those that can be in their homes have lifted their generators up to higher ground just in case we flood. We are 6 ft above sea-level so we are not taking a chance. We will see how it all turns out in 6-12 hrs.

Good luck to all in Athena's path.

I just hope those generators are not indoors. Wouldn't want to suffocate to death.
Good luck to you in NJ.
What is the "supposed name", Athena or Alexandra? I'm seeing both here.
Quoting originalLT:
What is the "supposed name", Athena or Alexandra? I'm seeing both here.

It's whatever you want it to be. No, just kidding. Or not.

Really though, it's Athena, according to TWC. Though Alexandra is her nick-name, and folks are welcome to call her that.
Thanks TomB.
819. atris
Quoting originalLT:
What is the "supposed name", Athena or Alexandra? I'm seeing both here.


On Most weather sites ,its being called a Nor'easter or winter storm , but I guess here ,it will be called Athena but the NWS is not....
Quoting AussieStorm:

I just hope those generators are not indoors. Wouldn't want to suffocate to death.
Good luck to you in NJ.


Oh goodness no! Lets hope nobody is doing that! Most of the ones I've seen are on concrete blocks or picnic type tables -- heavy sturdy tables several feet from any house or window.
Joe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi

Visible loop watching developing rogue storm as it lashes northeast http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/SAT_NE/anim8vis.htm l …
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Uhm...you might want to read back some. A majority of the discussion on here last night and this morning has been about politics.

Congratulations Obama...you weren't the candidate I was hoping for, but maybe you'll get America on the right track.
I guess I stand corrected. For them to allow an off-topic discussion is very unexpected. Well, the present is opened now, so I hope the Admin closes it and puts it away soon.
Quoting Luisport:
Joe Bastardi%u200F@BigJoeBastardi

Visible loop watching developing rogue storm as it lashes northeast http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/SAT_NE/anim8vis.htm l %u2026

Luv ze updates, Luis. Don't let PalylmaPunishment (aka colortheworld) in Blizz's blog intimidate or deter you from posting, young man. I luz ze posts. Keep 'em up!!
3 minJoe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi

Winds now gusting over 55 mph at Buzzards Bay http://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/266174977 949171712/photo/1


7 minJoe Bastardi‏@BigJoeBastardi

When was the last time people in NJ saw two major precip events in a row with radar echoes moving west? http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=DIX&p roduct=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
Quoting originalLT:
Thanks TomB.

Y'Welcome, LT.
Quoting ThePineBaron:
I am starting my own winter storm nomenclature system. Why? Because I can. I am going to call this one Alexandra. I am also going to make up my own zip codes and rename all the roads where I live.


ROTFL....
cold night in florida but if the forecast is right a rapid warm up this wkend. might have to watch the western carib. again
Quoting atris:


On Most weather sites ,its being called a Nor'easter or winter storm , but I guess here ,it will be called Athena but the NWS is not....


They said they are not naming this system.
Wind forecast looks a little better.
Quoting Skyepony:
Wind forecast looks a little better.

I'm afraid it'll still churn up those waves and bring that surge up, Skye.
Gary Szatkowski‏@GarySzatkowski

#noreaster storm surge continues to build. Atlantic City 1.8 ft Cape May 2.3 ft Lewes DE 2.6 ft. Moderate coastal flooding next high tide.
Quoting Skyepony:
Wind forecast looks a little better.

High tide for much of that NJ coast comes in later this afternoon between 1:00 and 2:00 PM EST, Skye.

This is bad news. How can this be better??
835. atris
Quoting FunnelVortex:


They said they are not naming this system.


The Weather Channel have .. I dont know if Wunderground is following suit....

Weather channel article link

Link
NAM might be over doing it a bit...



GFS might have a better handle on it...



Quoting ILwthrfan:
NAM might be over doing it a bit...



GFS might have a better handle on it...




Agree.
7 minAccuWeather.com‏@breakingweather

Wet snowflakes now being reported at Atlantic City, NJ
Quoting Luisport:
7 minAccuWeather.com%u200F@breakingweather

Wet snowflakes now being reported at Atlantic City, NJ

Not surprised. That initial first push of moisture riding up the warm front might come in wintry before a transition over to liquid.
Quoting TomballTXPride:

High tide for much of that NJ coast comes in later this afternoon between 1:00 and 2:00 PM EST, Skye.

This is bad news. How can this be better??


The wind is forecast less then before so that is a little better than expected. As for surge. It's beginning to look like the worse storm surge at the Battery will come at low tide..yay. The storm surge itself is down a 1/2 ft from yesterday probilby due to the reduction in winds. The xpected is slightly higher than forecast so overall I'll go not over 8' at The Battery.



From the Weather Channel

Quoting Skyepony:


The wind is forecast less then before so that is a little better than expected. As for surge. It's beginning to look like the worse storm surge at the Battery will come at low tide..yay. The storm surge itself is down a 1/2 ft from yesterday probilby due to the reduction in winds. The xpected is slightly higher than forecast so overall I'll go not over 8' at The Battery.



Bad news is farther south in the Mid-Atlantic area, worst of storm surge is expected at high tide.

The Battery up in NYC was never expected to have too high of a surge, anyway. The most worrisome areas are indeed along the NJ coast, as it appears the worst will come in about high tide with that strong ENE and then NE fetch bringing occasional gusts up to 60 MPH, unfortunately.

Beautiful graph BTW, Skye. I thank you for posting this. ;-]
From the Weather Channel



Link
Bad news is farther south in the Mid-Atlantic area, worst of storm surge is expected nearer to high tide.

Quoting TomballTXPride:

The Battery up in NYC was never expected to have too high of a surge, anyway. The most worrisome areas are indeed along the NJ coast, as it appears the worst will come in about high tide with that strong ENE and then NE fetch bringing occasional gusts up to 60 MPH, unfortunately.

Beautiful graph BTW, Skye. I thank you for posting this. ;-]


I was getting to that:)
Quoting islander101010:
cold night in florida but if the forecast is right a rapid warm up this wkend. might have to watch the western carib. again
TWO cold nights! :)
Alexandra. My sweet Alexandra.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Ocean city & the Battery taking around the same observed height..
Quoting ThePineBaron:
I am starting my own winter storm nomenclature system. Why? Because I can. I am going to call this one Alexandra. I am also going to make up my own zip codes and rename all the roads where I live.


Had a girlfriend with that name once. Was hating her after breaking-up. Two decades on hate has faded.
235
NOUS71 KVUY 071402
ADMERH

ALERT ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE EASTERN REGION
BOHEMIA NY 900 AM EST WED NOVEMBER 7 2012

TO: ALL ER WFOS

TWC HAS NAMED THE NOR'EASTER "ATHENA.." THE NWS DOES NOT USE NAME
WINTER STORMS IN OUR PRODUCTS. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING THE TERM
ATHENA IN ANY OF OUR PRODUCTS.

$$

RW

From.... Link
As much as I like Alexandra..nor'easter does it for me. Click here for loop.. Thanks to RAMSDIS.
Quoting Skyepony:
As much as I like Alexandra..nor'easter does it for me. Click pic for loop.. Thanks to RAMSDIS.

This is why I love you, Skye!! You post some great links. This is fantastic!!! ;-]

Almost looks to be acquiring some tropical characteristics...
Mike Bloomberg @MikeBloomberg
There are more than 200 centers where people can go to stay warm during the day. Here's a list: Link #Noreaster
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

KEEPER ~ Why don't we ever see RSTNLK post in here....?
Quoting TomballTXPride:

This is why I love you, Skye!! You post some great links. This is fantastic!!! ;-]

Almost looks to be acquiring some tropical characteristics...


When I refreshed I couldn't see it anymore..I put in a link to the loop. Yeah~ the center looks partially exposed.
Testing ..... Testing .... 1....2....3.....
Hello.... can anyone see me????
Atlantic city, Nov 07 08:54 am

Wind: N 12 Visibility 7.00 mi
Present weather: Light Snow Temperature 37 Dewpoint 34 Pressure: 1011.1 mb

snow due to cooling from precipitation, the "wet bulb effect" It could get heavy before it shifts to all rain...
Quoting Skyepony:


When I refreshed I couldn't see it anymore..I put in a link to the loop. Yeah~ the center looks partially exposed.

That happens, Skye. It's part of the interface. Sometimes if you refresh rapidly a few times after that, it reappears. Other times you have to go to "Member Blogs" and then re-enter Dr. Master's blog from the back door, if you will. Either way, you may not see it, but it's still there. I can attest to this.

Don't worry. It's there. :)
NEW CASTLE-SALEM-GLOUCESTER-CAMDEN-NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-
DELAWARE-PHILADELPHIA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILMINGTON...PENNSVILLE...GLASSBORO...
CAMDEN...CHERRY HILL...MOORESTOWN...MOUNT HOLLY...MEDIA...
PHILADELPHIA
340 AM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST THURSDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
THURSDAY. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 3 TO 5 INCHES.

* TIMING...LIGHT RAIN AND SNOW WILL DEVELOP THIS MORNING...AND
BECOME STEADIER LATER THIS MORNING. AS THE PRECIPITATION FALLS
MORE HEAVILY THIS AFTERNOON...THE PRECIPITATION WILL TAKE THE
FORM OF SNOW...AND THE SNOW MAY FALL HEAVILY AT TIMES THIS
AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING.

* IMPACTS...AS THE PRECIPITATION FALLS MORE HEAVILY AND CHANGES TO
SNOW...ACCUMULATIONS ON COLDER SURFACES IS EXPECTED. DURING THE
HEAVIEST OF THE SNOWFALL...SECONDARY ROADS ARE EXPECTED TO
BECOME SNOW COVERED AND SLICK. MAIN ARTERIES MAY EXPERIENCE SOME
SLICK SPOTS AS WELL...MAINLY DURING THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON.

* WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* VISIBILITIES...ONE QUARTER TO ONE HALF MILE AT TIMES.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE MID 30S...BUT TEMPERATURES MAY FALL BACK
CLOSE TO THE FREEZING MARK DURING THE HEAVIEST SNOWFALL.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.

&&

$$
862. MahFL
Quoting JerseyShoreGirl:


Oh goodness no! Lets hope nobody is doing that! Most of the ones I've seen are on concrete blocks or picnic type tables -- heavy sturdy tables several feet from any house or window.


Some already did it and died.
Quoting TomballTXPride:

KEEPER ~ Why don't we ever see RSTNLK post in here....?


i don't know
i really don't know him
seen that user name sometimes
in orca's place posting

why you ask
Winds here in Middletown/Newport are already steady at 35 with the latest gust at 44. No rain yet. Dewpoint 34, Temp is 45 with a windchill of 36. Going to be a long day. Thankfully the township got all the Sandy debris picked up on our road yesterday, so flying objects should be at a minimum.
Quoting Progster:
Atlantic city, Nov 07 08:54 am

Wind: N 12 Visibility 7.00 mi
Present weather: Light Snow Temperature 37 Dewpoint 34 Pressure: 1011.1 mb

snow due to cooling from precipitation, the "wet bulb effect" It could get heavy before it shifts to all rain...


Most impressive totals should occur after sunset, but looks like we are seeing some evaporational cooling taking place in the New Jersey area now, but totals are going to be held down due to sun angle and warm ground temperatures. Don't expect to much to accumulate on concrete surfaces until tonight.

Quoting AussieStorm:
Testing ..... Testing .... 1....2....3.....
Hello.... can anyone see me????


Yep
Quoting TomballTXPride:

KEEPER ~ Why don't we ever see RSTNLK post in here....?


Did you call?
I'm always around reading and learning.
One of these years when I think I have learned enough
about weather from the rest of you, I may post a
comment or two. :)
Quoting ILwthrfan:


Most impressive totals should occur after sunset, but looks like we are seeing some evaporational cooling taking place in the New Jersey area now, but totals are going to be held down due to sun angle and warm ground temperatures. Don't expect to much to accumulate on concrete surfaces until tonight.



with a north wind, air with a below zero C wetbuld is advecting into the NJ precip area..these are the ingredients for a surprise few inches in spite of warm ground and time of year..but I agree, it would take a lot to have accumulating snow on hard surfaces.
Quoting RTLSNK:


Did you call?
I'm always around reading and learning.
One of these years when I think I have learned enough
about weather from the rest of you, I may post a
comment or two. :)

Haha! There you are!! Okay...didn't know you read and lurked here. I bounce into Orca's blog every now and then and follow you Guys over there. I love you posts....all of you. But good to see you are around...even though you don't post all that much. :)
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting AussieStorm:
Mike Bettes ‏@TWCMikeBettes
*Breaking News* - @weatherchannel has just named it's 1st winter storm #Athena
Really????
Quoting TomballTXPride:

Haha! There you are!! Okay...didn't know you read and lurked here. I bounce into Orca's blog every now and then and follow you Guys over there. I love you posts....all of you. But good to see you are around...even though you don't post all that much. :)


Thank you, my background is behavioral science, my knowledge of weather was limited to how it related to military operations.

Grothar has taught me how to do this at least:

Quoting RTLSNK:


Did you call?
I'm always around reading and learning.
One of these years when I think I have learned enough
about weather from the rest of you, I may post a
comment or two. :)


Me too!