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U.S. weather in 2011: unprecedented rains and wet/dry extremes

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:07 PM GMT on January 11, 2012

Rains unprecedented in 117 years of record keeping set new yearly precipitation totals in seven states during 2011, NOAA's National Climatic Data Center revealed in its preliminary year-end report for 2011. An extraordinary twenty major U.S. cities had their wettest year on record during 2011. This smashes the previous record of ten cities with a wettest year, set in 1996, according to a comprehensive data base of 303 U.S. cities that have 90% of the U.S. population, maintained by Wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt. Despite the remarkable number of new wettest year records set, precipitation averaged across the contiguous U.S. during 2011 was near-average, ranking as the 45th driest year in the 117-year record. This occurred because of unprecedented dry conditions across much of the South, where Texas had its driest year on record.


Figure 1. Precipitation rankings for U.S. states in 2011. Seven states had their wettest year on record, and an additional ten states had a top-ten wettest year. Texas had its driest year on record, and four other states had a top-ten driest year. Image credit: NOAA's National Climatic Data Center.


Figure 2.Wettest, driest, and warmest year records set during 2011 for major U.S. cities. No major cities had their coldest year on record during 2011. Image credit: NOAA's National Climatic Data Center.

2011 sets a new U.S. record for combined wet and dry extremes
If you weren't washing away in a flood during 2011, you were probably baking in a drought. The fraction of the contiguous U.S. covered by extremely wet conditions (top 10% historically) was 33% during 2011, ranking as the 2nd highest such coverage in the past 100 years. At the same time, extremely dry conditions (top 10% historically) covered 25% of the nation, ranking 6th highest in the past 100 years. The combined fraction of the country experiencing either severe drought or extremely wet conditions was 58%--the highest in a century of record keeping. Climate change science predicts that if the Earth continues to warm as expected, wet areas will tend to get wetter, and dry areas will tend to get drier--so 2011's side-by-side extremes of very wet and very dry conditions should grow increasingly common in the coming decades.


Figure 3. Percentage of the contiguous U.S. either in severe or greater drought (top 10% dryness) or extremely wet (top 10% wetness) during 2011, as computed using NOAA's Climate Extremes Index. Remarkably, more than half of the country (58%) experienced either a top-ten driest or top-ten wettest year, a new record. Image credit: NOAA/NCDC.

23rd warmest year on record, and 2nd hottest summer for the U.S.
The year 2011 ranked as the 23rd warmest in U.S. history, with sixteen states recording a top-ten warmest year on record. Delaware had its warmest year on record, and Texas its second warmest. However, these statistics don't convey the extremity of the summer of 2011--the hottest U.S. summer in 75 years. The only hotter summer--and by only 0.1°--was the Dust Bowl summer of 1936, when poor farming practices had turned much of the Midwest into a parking lot for generating extreme heat. The June - August 2011 average temperatures in Texas and Oklahoma were a remarkable 1.6°F and 1.3°F warmer than the previous hottest summer for a U.S. state--the summer of 1934 in Oklahoma. The U.S. Climate Extremes Index (CEI), which is sensitive to climate extremes in temperature, rainfall, dry streaks, and drought, indicated that an area nearly four times the average value was affected by extreme climate conditions during summer 2011. This is the third largest summer value of record, and came on the heels a spring season that was the most extreme on record. When averaged over the entire year, 2011 ranked as the 8th most extreme in U.S. history, since the fall weather was near-average for extremes. The CEI goes back to 1910.


Figure 4. Average temperatures for the summer in Texas and Oklahoma, at 86.8 degrees F (30.4 degrees C) and 86.5 degrees F (30.3 degrees C), respectively, exceeded the previous seasonal statewide average temperature record for any state during any season. The previous warmest summer statewide average temperature was in Oklahoma, during 1934, at 85.2 degrees F (29.6 degrees C). Image credit: National Climatic Data Center.

Wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt has a more detailed look at the U.S. extremes observed during 2011 in his latest post. His selection for the most remarkable yearly record set during 2011:

Perhaps, most astonishing is the total annual rainfall of just 1.06” at Pecos, Texas (normal annual precipitation is 11.61”). If confirmed this would be a Texas state record for least amount of precipitation ever recorded in a calendar year, the current record stands at 1.64” at Presidio in 1956.

Other posts looking back at the remarkable weather events of 2011
Top ten global weather events of 2011
2011: Year of the Tornado
Deadliest weather disaster of 2011: the East African drought
Tropical Storm Lee's flood in Binghamton: was global warming the final straw?
Wettest year on record in Philadelphia; 2011 sets record for wet/dry extremes in U.S.
Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster

I'll have a new post on Friday.

Jeff Masters

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The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Dr. Masters,
What do you convey to be the largest contributor to the weather events of 2011! Was LaNina the main event that caused such weather events as it seems that many of the 2011 are examples of character events from LaNina years as history shows i believe. Thank you for your hard work Sir!
If anyone would like to listen to NW Australian Radio. Go here.

Port Hedland Radar.

Look like Port Hedland will get a direct hit from TC Heidi.



Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Western Australia
Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre

Media: Transmitters serving the area between Pardoo and Whim Creek are
requested to USE the Standard Emergency Warning Signal before broadcasting the
following warning.

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 15
Issued at 10:54 pm WST on Wednesday 11 January 2012

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for coastal areas from Wallal to Dampier,
including Port Hedland, Roebourne, Karratha and Dampier, and extends to
adjacent inland parts.

At 11:00 pm WST Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category 2 was estimated to be
60 kilometres north northeast of Port Hedland and
230 kilometres east northeast of Karratha and
moving south southwest at 11 kilometres per hour towards the coast.

Tropical Cyclone Heidi remains a category 2 system as it tracks south-southwest
towards the Pilbara coast. Gales with gusts to 120 kilometres per hour are
occuring in coastal areas between Port Hedland and Wallal, and should extend
west to Whim Creek early on Thursday morning. Destructive winds with gusts to
155 kilometres per hour are possible early Thursday morning close to the
cyclone centre between Whim Creek and Pardoo, including Port Hedland. Gales
with gusts to 100 kilometres per hour may extend west to Dampier during
Thursday morning if the cyclone takes a more southwesterly track, and into the
adjacent inland parts of the central Pilbara.

The heaviest rainfall is expected to the east and south of the system. Rainfall
totals of 100-250mm are possible across the central and eastern Pilbara. Refer
to Flood Advices for further details.

Residents in and near Port Hedland and east to Wallal are specifically warned
of the potential of a DANGEROUS STORM TIDE as the cyclone centre crosses the
coast early on Thursday morning. Tides are likely to rise significantly above
the normal high tide mark with dangerous flooding of low-lying areas.
Tides elsewhere in the Pilbara should also be higher than normal.


RED ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Pardoo and
Whim Creek, including the communities of Pardoo, Port Hedland, South Hedland,
and Whim Creek, need to go to shelter immediately.

BLUE ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Whim Creek
and Dampier, including the communities of Roebourne, Pt Samson, Karratha, and
Dampier need to prepare for cyclonic weather and organise an emergency kit
including first aid kit, torch, portable radio, spare batteries, food and water.

Details of Tropical Cyclone Heidi at 11:00 pm WST:
.Centre located near...... 19.8 degrees South 118.8 degrees East
.Location accuracy........ within 30 kilometres
.Recent movement.......... towards the south southwest at 11 kilometres per hour
.Wind gusts near centre... 155 kilometres per hour
.Severity category........ 2
.Central pressure......... 975 hectoPascals

The next advice will be issued by 12:00 am WST Thursday 12 January.
Here is some more pics of the Houston flooding that happened on Monday

Link
Once again, I believe that climate change denialists will look at this map and determine that if you average the record dry and record wet states, you're left with a normal year... on average.
Latest Weather Observations for Port Hedland

11/11:02pm
Temp C: 24.3
Rel Hum%: 94
Wind Speed: 54km/h
Gust: 72km/h
Speed: 29kts
Gust: 39kts
Pressure: 999.7hPa
Rain since 9am: 13.4mm

Go here to keep up with the latest weather observations.
Repair Shop video in Houston when tornado hits

Quoting kinase1:
Once again, I believe that climate change denialists will look at this map and determine that if you average the record dry and record wet states, you're left with a normal year... on average.


The more data points you have to average, the less the average is effected by any single data point. Long term averages move very slowly and should not be used as an indicator of the current trends.

Let us say that you have a snow cone stand and over the past 30 years you have sold an average of 50 snow cones per day. Now let us say that two years ago you noticed that you were selling an average of 51 snow cones per day from your stand and that this years sales have averaged 52 snow cones per day. The current trend shows that your sales are rising but, should you add the past two years of sales of snow cones into the previous 30 years of sales of snow cones and average them all out, you are not going to see any deviation from the previous 30 year average.

Should I be incorrect, restricted to this single post please ;-), would someone correct me in this statement? .... Grothar, are you awake? ;-)
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 16
Issued at 11:54 pm WST on Wednesday 11 January 2012





Port Hedland Radar

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for coastal areas from Wallal to Dampier,
including Port Hedland, Roebourne, Karratha and Dampier, and extends to
adjacent inland parts.

At 12:00 am WST Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category 2 was estimated to be
50 kilometres north northeast of Port Hedland and
225 kilometres east northeast of Karratha and
moving south southwest at 10 kilometres per hour towards the coast.

Tropical Cyclone Heidi remains a category 2 system as it tracks south-southwest
towards the Pilbara coast. Gales with gusts to 120 kilometres per hour are
occuring in coastal areas between Port Hedland and Whim Creek. Destructive
winds with gusts to 155 kilometres per hour are developing along the coast
between Pardoo and Port Hedland, and should extend west towards Whim Creek
during Thursday morning as the cyclone crosses the coast. Gales with gusts to
100 kilometres per hour may extend west to Dampier during Thursday morning if
the cyclone takes a more southwesterly track, and into the adjacent inland
parts of the central Pilbara.

The heaviest rainfall is expected to the east and south of the system. Rainfall
totals of 100-250mm are possible across the central and eastern Pilbara. Refer
to Flood Advices for further details.

Residents in and near Port Hedland and east to Wallal are specifically warned
of the potential of a DANGEROUS STORM TIDE as the cyclone centre crosses the
coast early on Thursday morning. Tides are likely to rise significantly above
the normal high tide mark with dangerous flooding of low-lying areas.
Tides elsewhere in the Pilbara should also be higher than normal.



RED ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Pardoo and
Whim Creek, including the communities of Pardoo, Port Hedland, South Hedland,
and Whim Creek, need to go to shelter immediately.


BLUE ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Whim Creek
and Dampier, including the communities of Roebourne, Pt Samson, Karratha, and
Dampier need to prepare for cyclonic weather and organise an emergency kit
including first aid kit, torch, portable radio, spare batteries, food and water.

Details of Tropical Cyclone Heidi at 12:00 am WST:
.Centre located near...... 19.9 degrees South 118.8 degrees East
.Location accuracy........ within 20 kilometres
.Recent movement.......... towards the south southwest at 10 kilometres per hour
.Wind gusts near centre... 155 kilometres per hour
.Severity category........ 2
.Central pressure......... 975 hectoPascals

The next advice will be issued by 1:00 am WST Thursday 12 January.

If anyone would like to listen to NW Australian Radio. Go here.

I'm off to bed, 3am is getting to late for me.
I am sure NW Western Australia will be fine and there will be no lose of life, but there are idiot everywhere that want to win a Darwin award.
Goodnight. Play nice
Ignoring the obvious reminds me of something I read a few days ago that went something like this: "People who dismiss these freakish events as just 'weird weather' are like the mayor in Jaws noting simply that, gee, there sure have been a lot of swimming and boating accidents lately." ;-)
We got a nice line of storms coming in now, its thundering pretty good here in Pinellas, hopefully the line will hold strong as it heads in.
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


The more data points you have to average, the less the average is effected by any single data point. Long term averages move very slowly and should not be used as an indicator of the current trends.

Let us say that you have a snow cone stand and over the past 30 years you have sold an average of 50 snow cones per day. Now let us say that two years ago you noticed that you were selling an average of 51 snow cones per day from your stand and that this years sales have averaged 52 snow cones per day. The current trend shows that your sales are rising but, should you add the past two years of sales of snow cones into the previous 30 years of sales of snow cones and average them all out, you are not going to see any deviation from the previous 30 year average.

Should I be incorrect, restricted to this single post please ;-), would someone correct me in this statement? .... Grothar, are you awake? ;-)
I like your post Rook..And remember, less than 40 years ago some scientists thought we were going into another ice age. It is good that technology is far superior compared to what existed back than..:)
Quoting Neapolitan:
Ignoring the obvious reminds me of something I read a few days ago that went something like this: "People who dismiss these freakish events as just 'weird weather' are like the mayor in Jaws noting simply that, gee, there sure have been a lot of swimming and boating accidents lately." ;-)
lol..Martin,....My kids were on that beach too...
.DISCUSSION...
A COLD FRONT NOW NEARING KTLH EXTENDING SOUTH INTO THE EASTERN
GULF WATERS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE TO THE EAST AND SOUTHEAST THE
REMAINDER OF TODAY...MOVING THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA DURING THE
AFTERNOON AS THE PARENT STORM SYSTEM NOW OVER THE TN VALLEY LIFTS
OUT TO THE NORTHEAST. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS
(VIA 88D RETURNS) ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO
AFFECT THE REGION THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY. 12Z RAOB DATA
SHOWS SOME IMPRESSIVE SHEAR (HELICITY 360 M2/S2) ACROSS THE REGION
SO THERE STILL WILL BE A LOW CHANCE OF SOME ROTATING STORMS
ESPECIALLY OVER THE GULF WATERS WHERE THE BEST INSTABILITY EXISTS
BUT WITH WEAKER INSTABILITY OVER THE LAND...THE TREND SHOULD BE
FOR A WEAKENING OF STORMS AS THEY MOVE ONSHORE THROUGH THE
DAY...WITH THE OVERALL SEVERE THREAT REMAINING QUITE LOW. CURRENT
FORECAST HAS A GOOD HANDLE ON THINGS...SO NO MORNING UPDATE
PLANNED AT THIS TIME.


The NWS notes impressive Helicity over the area, so we can't rule out a tornado, there are multiple cells embedded in the line that do have a bit of a hook appearance to them. That doesn't mean they have or will produce tornadoes but its worth keeping a close eye on.
Quoting kinase1:
Once again, I believe that climate change denialists will look at this map and determine that if you average the record dry and record wet states, you're left with a normal year... on average.

Which is akin to claiming that if a man's right leg doubles in size because of a tumor while the left atrophies and shrivels because of nerve damage, on average he's just fine.
Quoting Neapolitan:

Which is akin to claiming that if a man's right leg doubles in size because of a tumor while the left atrophies and shrivels because of nerve damage, on average he's just fine.


Or if a person loses the left side of his body in an accident, he's all right.
Quoting Neapolitan:

Which is akin to claiming that if a man's right leg doubles in size because of a tumor while the left atrophies and shrivels because of nerve damage, on average he's just fine.
always making it political!!!
:P
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Or if a person loses the left side of his body in an accident, he's all right.
^_^
What happened to the possible tsunami after yesterday's Indonesian earthquake?
Watching the political news is like watching a horror movie. Sometimes I just can't look anymore! Report on proposed fast track to fracking in the Catskills of New York this morning was very disturbing, especially considering you know it's going on in other places as we speak.
Could water, power woes threaten Texas' economy?

Link
Quoting Chicklit:
Watching the political news is like watching a horror movie. Sometimes I just can't look anymore! Report on proposed fast track to fracking in the Catskills of New York this morning was very disturbing, especially considering you know it's going on in other places as we speak.
Politicians attack each other with vitriolic statements and accusations, demonize each other and even lie about each other, and these are our potential leaders for the free world...It is beyond disgusting.
Way unimpressed with the rain in Cape Coral this morning! Looks like the frontal precip sort of "split" overnight. Naples, even Bonita Springs just down the beach from here, got way more rain than we did, from the look of it. I'd love to know what causes so many of these winter fronts to develop a split in the precip.
Quoting OrchidGrower:
Way unimpressed with the rain in Cape Coral this morning! Looks like the frontal precip sort of "split" overnight. Naples, even Bonita Springs just down the beach from here, got way more rain than we did, from the look of it. I'd love to know what causes so many of these winter fronts to develop a split in the precip.

I've been working in Bonita Springs (near Bonita Beach Road and I-75) all morning, and have received no more than a trace. There may have been more at the beach, but it's been nearly rainless (but windy and humid) here.
Quoting Neapolitan:

I've been working in Bonita Springs (near Bonita Beach Road and I-75) all morning, and have received no more than a trace. There may have been more at the beach, but it's been nearly rainless (but windy and humid) here.


That's how we always feel in TX...at least in 2011
Quoting HawksNestPoint:
What happened to the possible tsunami after yesterday's Indonesian earthquake?
it failed to occur except for maybe some slight tide changes to local areas near epic centre too deep maybe need a shallow quake with sea bed slip or lift and fall to get wave action lucky there was none
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #17
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY TWO (07U)
1:00 AM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 1:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category Two (975 hPa) located at 20.0S 118.7E or 35 km north northeast of Port Hedland and 210 km east northeast of Karratha has 10 minute sustained winds of 55 knots with gusts of 75 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south southwest at 5 knots towards the coast.

Tropical Cyclone Heidi remains a category 2 system as it tracks south-southwest towards the Pilbara coast. Gales with gusts to 120 km/h are occuring in coastal areas between Port Hedland and Whim Creek. Destructive winds with gusts to 155 km/h are developing along the coast between Pardoo and Port Hedland, and should extend west towards Whim Creek during Thursday morning as the cyclone crosses the coast. Gales with gusts to 100 km/h may extend west to Dampier during Thursday morning if the cyclone takes a more southwesterly track, and into the adjacent inland parts of the central Pilbara.

The heaviest rainfall is expected to the east and south of the system. Rainfall totals of 100-250mm are possible across the central and eastern Pilbara. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Residents in and near Port Hedland and east to Wallal are specifically warned of the potential of a DANGEROUS STORM TIDE as the cyclone center crosses the coast early on Thursday morning. Tides are likely to rise significantly above the normal high tide mark with dangerous flooding of low-lying areas. Tides elsewhere in the Pilbara should also be higher than normal.

RED ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Pardoo and Whim Creek, including the communities of Pardoo, Port Hedland, South Hedland, and Whim Creek, need to go to shelter immediately.

BLUE ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Whim Creek and Dampier, including the communities of Roebourne, Pt Samson, Karratha, and Dampier need to prepare for cyclonic weather and organize an emergency kit including first aid kit, torch, portable radio, spare batteries, food and water.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for coastal areas from Wallal to Dampier, including Port Hedland, Roebourne, Karratha and Dampier, and extends to adjacent inland parts.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center will be issued at 18:30 PM UTC..
Good Afternoon. No real severe weather came through North Florida today with the frontal passage and it looks like the bulk of the heavier convection keeps "slipping" South along the front in the SE Gulf and may even miss a good portion of the Keys. Good news in terms of severe weather for the Florida Peninsula but also nice to see some rain still coming in...............Not as much as we really need this Winter however.
Ignoring the obvious reminds me of something I read a few days ago that went something like this: "People who dismiss these freakish events as just 'weird weather' are like the mayor in Jaws noting simply that, gee, there sure have been a lot of swimming and boating accidents lately." ;-)
always late to the new blog.....lol.
Awesome Headline and Cool Picture:

With thunderstorms passing through, it's like July in January

This may be worth a thousand words: Link
Im thinking Norway more and more as a retirement Land.
storms starting to get fun here, lol :D
#35.

"This may be worth a thousand words"

excellent analogy!
Quoting presslord:
This may be worth a thousand words: Link


blah....what will they come up with next
Chances of polar vortex shift toward central eastern Canada appear on the rise for early February and could last 45 days or so. Thoughts?
Quoting thegoldenstrand:
Chances of polar vortex shift toward central eastern Canada appear on the rise for early February and could last 45 days or so. Thoughts?
What model or models are you looking at, I wanna see :)
Quoting RitaEvac:


That's how we always feel in TX...at least in 2011


Nope, that's how we always feel. Lol.
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #19
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY TWO (07U)
3:00 AM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 3:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category Two (975 hPa) located at 20.1S 118.8E or 15 km northeast of Port Hedland and 200 km east northeast of Karratha has 10 minute sustained winds of 60 knots with gusts of 85 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south at 6 knots towards the coast.

Dvorak Intensity: T4.0/4.0D1.0/24 HRS

Storm Force Winds
================
20 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
=================
50 NM from the center in northern quadrants
40 NM from the center in southern quadrants

Tropical Cyclone Heidi remains a category 2 system as it tracks south towards the Pilbara coast. Gales with gusts to 120 km/h are occuring in coastal areas between Port Hedland and Whim Creek. Destructive winds with gusts to 155 km/h are possible along the coast between Pardoo and Port Hedland, and should extend west towards Whim Creek during Thursday morning as the cyclone crosses the coast. Gales with gusts to 100 km/h may extend west to Dampier during Thursday morning if the cyclone takes a more southwesterly track, and into the adjacent inland parts of the central Pilbara.

The heaviest rainfall is expected to the east and south of the system. Rainfall totals of 100-250 mm are possible across the central and eastern Pilbara. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Tides in the Pilbara are likely to be higher than normal.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for coastal areas from Wallal to Dampier, including Port Hedland, Roebourne, Karratha and Dampier, and extends to adjacent inland parts.

Forecast and Intensity
======================

12 HRS: 21.2S 117.9E - 30 knots (Tropical Low)
24 HRS: 22.3S 117.1E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
48 HRS: 25.1S 115.7E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)

Additional Information
=======================

Tropical Cyclone Heidi has remained category 2 over the last few radar images and satellite passes, indicating an intensity of 55 knots.

Latest image DT of 4.0 based on embedded centre pattern.

Motion in last 6 hours is now south, however forecast is still for a more southwesterly movement after landfall.

The system should maintain its intensity through to landfall and then weaken rapidly. Shear has remained low, with latest forecast models indicating strong shear will not be encountered until after landfall.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center will be issued at 20:30 PM UTC..
ASCAT boxes got smaller! only stretch 15 degrees laterally and 10 degrees vertically!
Quoting SPLbeater:
ASCAT boxes got smaller! only stretch 15 degrees laterally and 10 degrees vertically!


Just what I wanted to hear, next season ASCAT will miss even more systems. Tempted to just do it the old fashion way, just put Grothar on a weather balloon.
Quoting hydrus:
What model or models are you looking at, I wanna see :)


A thousand pardons, but I don't have any models other than maybe the GFS to refer you to. My post is more trying to find out info and is the result of weather blog reading.

I wish I had a few models to refer you to. The big change in the blogs I have read is there is now a reference to the GFS model showing a greater chance of neutral and possibly negative AO and/or NAO readings from the current positive readings that have persisted for much of the late fall early winter.

It would be great if Dr. Masters would write a blog on the topic of the Polar Vertex and effects of the NAO and AO going from the positive readings so far this winter to neutral and maybe negative in a few weeks.

Mike
Quoting Patrap:
Im thinking Norway more and more as a retirement Land.


I duuno, Pat. What is the import duty on Fresca and the NO Saints?
Quoting RitaEvac:


That's how we always feel in TX...at least in 2011
Still like that in South Central Texas, we are going to Stage 4 water restrictions soon where we will be fined if we go over certain number of gallons of water usage, it is bad here, ponds are dry, you can spit over the Lakes. I drove by Lake Travis and there is nothing feeding the Lake, the water has dryed up, it is beyond sad driving around that lake, seeing all those beautiful lake houses not anywhere near the water. We need 2 floods so bad here it is unreal. There is a little water in the pond behind my house, just enough for the cows to get stuck in the mud. I have not been able to wash my car even with a bucket for 6 months, there is no end in sight unless we have an active tropical season, the heavy rains will hit southeast Texas or La. like they always do, maybe northeast Texas also but here it remains too dry.
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Just what I wanted to hear, next season ASCAT will miss even more systems. Tempted to just do it the old fashion way, just put Grothar on a weather balloon.


You know he is going to want a digital camera, smart phone and a SAT link this time, right?
Bahamas~ All sorts of fish died, some beached themselves. Other were disoriented & died despite people helping. Don't know why, sonar testing suspected..
Quoting SPLbeater:
ASCAT boxes got smaller! only stretch 15 degrees laterally and 10 degrees vertically!

oh goodie...

^Sarcasm.
Quoting bohonkweatherman:
Still like that in South Central Texas, we are going to Stage 4 water restrictions soon where we will be fined if we go over certain number of gallons of water usage, it is bad here, ponds are dry, you can spit over the Lakes. I drove by Lake Travis and there is nothing feeding the Lake, the water has dryed up, it is beyond sad driving around that lake, seeing all those beautiful lake houses not anywhere near the water. We need 2 floods so bad here it is unreal. There is a little water in the pond behind my house, just enough for the cows to get stuck in the mud. I have not been able to wash my car even with a bucket for 6 months, there is no end in sight unless we have an active tropical season, the heavy rains will hit southeast Texas or La. like they always do, maybe northeast Texas also but here it remains too dry.


I believe you are gonna get your rains....some day, and some day soon. If these low pressure systems take a southern track and with spring coming and gulf inflow ahead of the fronts, you're gonna get monumental rains. Pattern changes a comin.
Looking like La Nina is about to come to an end over the next several weeks.



Quoting Skyepony:
Bahamas~ All sorts of fish died, some beached themselves. Other were disoriented & died despite people helping. Don't know why, sonar testing suspected..


Maybe Red Tide. We have it goin' on from Florida Bay to Sanibel.

Link
Massive area of wind advisories over the entire plains, and winter weather advisories
Teens into Colorado and winds howling into the TX panhandle
National Severe Map..


NOLA and Outside the Metro area

Special Statement
Statement as of 1:52 PM CST on January 11, 2012

... Colder weather to return on Thursday...

At mid-afternoon... an Arctic cold front extended from Wisconsin into the Texas Panhandle. This front will move through south Mississippi and southeast Louisiana Thursday morning.
This front will usher windy conditions and much colder air into the area for Thursday into Saturday morning.

Some areas are likely to see their high temperatures for Thursday occur during the morning... with very little warming during the afternoon. Overnight lows Thursday night and Friday night are expected to be near the coldest readings of the season.

Lows Thursday night are expected to be in the middle to upper 20's across southern Mississippi and portions of southeast Louisiana north of Interstate 12.
In the New Orleans Metro area and coastal southeast Louisiana... lows will be in the middle 30s near bodies of water and lower 30s in outlying areas.

Temperatures may be a degree or two warmer Friday night... especially over southeast
Louisiana.

Freeze or hard freeze warnings may need to be issued on Thursday.Be prepared for the much colder weather on tap.
Well, we sure had a completely blown forecast here in Albama yesterday. The NWS has been all hot on a severe weather event for Tuesday, January 10, to the extent of a special message to Skywarn and other storm spotter groups to be prepared for activation, issued early Monday. It was clear from both radar and atmospheric soundings by Tuesday morning that we weren't going to have any severe weather, but the NWS kept up the severe forecasts until about midnight Tuesday. Haven't had a response yet from e-mail to the Birmingham WSO about this "crying wolf" incident, which is not the first we've had since all the tornadoes last year. I know the NWS is on a hair trigger when it comes to public warnings of severe weather, but it does no good to continue on with the same forecast when it's obvious that things have changed and we aren't going to get severe weather. I don't know if it's an overabundance of caution or just an inability to admit they were wrong, but this is really getting to be a problem.

We did finally get one elevated TS about 0100 this morning and that was it. We did have a litt ove an inch of rain Monday and yesterday, so at least we got some much needed precipitation. We've only had 1.65 inches this month and we're starting to fall below average again.
Houston

Statement as of 3:07 PM CST on January 11, 2012

... 2011 will be remembered for record
heat and intense drought...

... Houston records its second warmest year on record...

2011 has come to it's merciful conclusion and the past year was one
for the record books. There were several interesting weather stories
through the year but there was one weather topic which truly
deserves top billing and that was the drought. The drought was
particularly intense during February... March... April and may with a
brief respite in June and July and a reintensification of drought
conditions in August and September. Rain returned in October...
November and December which skewed the annual totals a bit. Most
locations in southeast Texas endured one of the five driest years on
record.

The drought produced significant economic impacts. Economic losses
are expected to exceed $5.2 billion dollars statewide. This figure
includes losses to livestock including supplemental costs such as
buying Hay and other factors associated with lost grazing. This
figure does include losses to fruit and vegetable producers...
Nursery crops and other row crops. There are other costs as well
such as the removal of dead trees... replacing infrastructure
destroyed by wildfires and other losses sustained by home and
property owners.

Speaking of the drought... here are a few of the more memorable
records.

The city of Houston went 257 consecutive days between 1.00 inch rain
events. Houston did not receive 24 hour rainfall amounts greater
than an inch between January 25th 2011 and October 8th 2011. The
previous record was 192 days ending on March 21 1918. Houston also
went 99 consecutive days between 0.25 inch rain events (ended June
21st 2011) and 148 consecutive days between 0.50 inch rain events
(ended June 21st 2011). Houston hobby Airport on southeast side went
58 consecutive days between measurable rain events. There was no
measurable rain between between March 14th and may 11th. Galveston
also established a new record as the Island City went 108
consecutive days between 0.25 rain events (ending on June 21st 2011).
The previous record was 102 days in 2008. It was the driest April on
record for the city of Houston and College Station and the third
driest April for Galveston. It was also the second driest August on
record for the city of Houston and the third driest for Galveston.
It is no wonder that the annual rainfall totals were so meager. It
was the third driest year on record for the city of Houston... the
third driest year on record for College Station and the fifth driest
year on record for Galveston. Houston hobby Airport endured it's
driest year on record. Most locations were between 20 and 30 inches
below normal for the year. That's right... between 20 and 30 inches!!!
the region was about 5 to 10 inches drier than normal in 2010 so
this prolonged drought has produced rainfall deficits between 35 and
45 inches since the middle of September 2010
Sigh...

URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
300 PM CST WED JAN 11 2012

...A FIRE WEATHER WATCH IS IN EFFECT ON THURSDAY...

.A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL CROSS SOUTHEAST TEXAS OVERNIGHT. STRONG
NORTHWEST WINDS OF 20 TO 25 MPH AND GUSTY WILL DEVELOP AND PERSIST
THROUGH MUCH OF THURSDAY. RH VALUES WILL FALL TO NEAR OR BELOW 25
PERCENT BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH PARTS OF THE AREA RECEIVED
VERY HEAVY RAIN ON MONDAY...SUBSTANTIAL DRYING TODAY COUPLED WITH
LESSER RAINFALL TOTALS OVER THE NORTHWEST...SOUTHWEST AND PARTS OF
COASTAL SOUTHEAST TEXAS WARRANT A CONTINUATION OF THE FIRE WEATHER
WATCH.


TXZ163-164-176>179-195>200-210>214-226-227-235>23 8-120500-
/O.CON.KHGX.FW.A.0001.120112T1400Z-120113T0000Z/
AUSTIN-BRAZORIA-BRAZOS-BURLESON-CHAMBERS-COLORADO -FORT BEND-
GALVESTON-GRIMES-HARRIS-HOUSTON-JACKSON-LIBERTY-M ADISON-MATAGORDA-
MONTGOMERY-POLK-SAN JACINTO-TRINITY-WALKER-WALLER-WASHINGTON-
WHARTON-
300 PM CST WED JAN 11 2012

...FIRE WEATHER WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY MORNING
THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR DANGEROUS FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS FOR
PARTS OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS...

* AFFECTED COUNTIES... HOUSTON...TRINITY...MADISON...WALKER...
SAN JACINTO...POLK...BURLESON...BRAZOS...WASHINGTON...
GRIMES...MONTGOMERY...LIBERTY...COLORADO...AUSTIN. ..WALLER...
HARRIS...CHAMBERS...WHARTON...FORT BEND...JACKSON...
MATAGORDA...BRAZORIA...GALVESTON.

* WIND...NORTH TO NORTHWEST WINDS 20 TO 30 MPH AND GUSTY WILL
DEVELOP IN THE WAKE OF COLD FRONT THAT WILL MOVE THROUGH
BEFORE SUNRISE. THE WINDS SHOULD RELAX DURING THE LATE
AFTERNOON HOURS.

* HUMIDITY...FALLING TO 20 TO 25 PERCENT OVER THE NORTHWEST AND 25
TO 30 PERCENT OVER THE REMAINDER OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS BY LATE
MORNING.

* IMPACTS...ANY FIRES THAT DEVELOP WILL LIKELY SPREAD RAPIDLY.
OUTDOOR BURNING IS NOT RECOMMENDED.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FIRE WEATHER WATCH MEANS THAT CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS
ARE FORECAST TO OCCUR. LISTEN FOR LATER FORECASTS AND POSSIBLE
RED FLAG WARNINGS.
I got a nice shot of rain near 1 inch here in Pinellas County and plenty of thunder and gusty winds up to 39 mph, unfortunately if you live further east in Florida you probably feel robbed as the line has since dissipated after moving inland.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

oh goodie...

^Sarcasm.


its not a big deal, i was just stating it. guess the exclamation marks said otherwise
Houston's Heat

There were so many temperature records so let's try and do the year
Justice and review a few of the more notable achievements. The
earliest 100 degree day was established in Houston when the Mercury
hit 100 degrees on June 2nd. The temperature climbed to 105 degrees
a few days later (june 5th/6th) which is now the warmest ever June
temperature. Galveston recorded it's earliest 99 degree day on June
5th. July was relatively cool compared to the record heat in June
and the super record heat that was about to come in August. August
was just brutal. 30 out of the 31 days breached 100 degrees. The
average high temperature for the month was 102.0 degrees in Houston
and an even more blistering 103.8 degrees in College Station.
Houston tied its all time hottest temperature on August 27th when
the temperature climbed to 109 degrees. All told the Mercury climbed
to 100 degrees or above 46 times this year which pretty much
obliterates the old record of 32 days in 1980. College Station had
69 days with temperatures reaching the 100 degree threshold in 2011
and this also crushes its previous record for 100 degree days of 58
days in 1917. There were 108 days during the year in which the
temperature breached 95 degrees and 142 days or roughly 39 percent
of the year with temperatures at 90 degrees or above.
36 Patrap "I'm thinking Norway more and more as a retirement Land."

What with all them thar hurricanes they've been havin', pret darn easy to confuse it with Florida.
Quoting sar2401:
Well, we sure had a completely blown forecast here in Albama yesterday. The NWS has been all hot on a severe weather event for Tuesday, January 10, to the extent of a special message to Skywarn and other storm spotter groups to be prepared for activation, issued early Monday. It was clear from both radar and atmospheric soundings by Tuesday morning that we weren't going to have any severe weather, but the NWS kept up the severe forecasts until about midnight Tuesday. Haven't had a response yet from e-mail to the Birmingham WSO about this "crying wolf" incident, which is not the first we've had since all the tornadoes last year. I know the NWS is on a hair trigger when it comes to public warnings of severe weather, but it does no good to continue on with the same forecast when it's obvious that things have changed and we aren't going to get severe weather. I don't know if it's an overabundance of caution or just an inability to admit they were wrong, but this is really getting to be a problem.

We did finally get one elevated TS about 0100 this morning and that was it. We did have a litt ove an inch of rain Monday and yesterday, so at least we got some much needed precipitation. We've only had 1.65 inches this month and we're starting to fall below average again.


There is no such thing as "crying wolf" when the threat for severe weather is possible. While some of the NWS WFO's in that area may be a little over cautious after last spring, its better to get the word out than not at all. There was no overabundance of caution used as you say. SPC never felt the threat was great enough to even issue any type of watch, so it remained at the local level with the NWS.
Quoting aspectre:
36 Patrap "I'm thinking Norway more and more as a retirement Land."

What with all them thar hurricanes they've been havin', pret darn easy to confuse it with Florida.


Seriously just move to the Tampa Bay area, I'm sure Norway historically has experienced more frequent damaging winter lows than we have had tropical cyclone here haha.
Quoting StormTracker2K:
Looking like La Nina is about to come to an end over the next several weeks.





Lets hope so... I freaking hate La Nina with a passion!
Quoting Skyepony:
Bahamas~ All sorts of fish died, some beached themselves. Other were disoriented & died despite people helping. Don't know why, sonar testing suspected..


We had these kind of fish strandings regularly off the Pacific coast, including mammals like dolphins and killer whales. The cause was a red tide similar to what's apparently being seen off Florida. It was always much worse in El Niño years, when the algae blooms increased as the warmer tropical waters intruded on the Humbolt current. It's some kind of neurotoxin and it seems to be almost 100% fatal to some species of near shore fish. We had one in the early 90's with a bunch of killer whales that grounded themselves on a beach in our county. There were hundreds of people who tried to help by pulling the stranded animals back into he water but nothing helped - they still swam right back to shore and all eventually died. There have been lots of stories about high powered sonar being involved in these groundings, but I've never read any solid evidence to show it's true.
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #21
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY TWO (07U)
5:00 AM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 5:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category Two (975 hPa) located at 20.4S 118.7E or 15 km southeast of Port Hedland and 195 km east of Karratha has 10 minute sustained winds of 60 knots with gusts of 85 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south at 5 knots.

Tropical Cyclone Heidi remains a category 2 system and has crossed the Pilbara coast just to the east of Port Hedland. Gales with gusts to 130 km/h are occuring in coastal areas between Port Hedland and Whim Creek. Destructive winds with gusts to 155 km/h are possible along the coast between Pardoo and Whim Creek during Thursday morning. Gales with gusts to 100 km/h may extend west to Dampier during Thursday morning if the cyclone takes a more southwesterly track, and into the adjacent inland parts of the central Pilbara.

The heaviest rainfall is expected to the east and south of the system. Rainfall totals of 100-250mm are possible across the central and eastern Pilbara. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Residents in and near Port Hedland and east to Wallal are specifically warned of the potential of a DANGEROUS STORM TIDE during Thursday morning. Tides are likely to rise significantly abouve the normal high tide mark with dangerous flooding of low lying areas. Tides elsewhere in the Pilbara should also be higher than normal.

RED ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Pardoo and Whim Creek, including the communities of Pardoo, Port Hedland, South Hedland, and Whim Creek, need to go to shelter immediately.

BLUE ALERT: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Whim Creek and Dampier, including the communities of Roebourne, Pt Samson, Karratha, and Dampier need to prepare for cyclonic weather and organise an emergency kit including first aid kit, torch, portable radio, spare batteries, food and water.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
====================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for coastal areas from Wallal to Dampier, including Port Hedland, Roebourne, Karratha and Dampier, and extends to adjacent inland parts.
Quoting sar2401:


We had these kind of fish strandings regularly off the Pacific coast, including mammals like dolphins and killer whales. The cause was a red tide similar to what's apparently being seen off Florida. It was always much worse in El Niño years, when the algae blooms increased as the warmer tropical waters intruded on the Humbolt current. It's some kind of neurotoxin and it seems to be almost 100% fatal to some species of near shore fish. We had one in the early 90's with a bunch of killer whales that grounded themselves on a beach in our county. There were hundreds of people who tried to help by pulling the stranded animals back into he water but nothing helped - they still swam right back to shore and all eventually died. There have been lots of stories about high powered sonar being involved in these groundings, but I've never read any solid evidence to show it's true.


nothing special to sonar its just sound waves, nothing magnetic that would cause them to beach themselves because of bad navigation. Most sonar can do is interfere with animals trying to hunt with echolocation.
Quoting Chucktown:


There is no such thing as "crying wolf" when the threat for severe weather is possible. While some of the NWS WFO's in that area may be a little over cautious after last spring, its better to get the word out than not at all. There was no overabundance of caution used as you say. SPC never felt the threat was great enough to even issue any type of watch, so it remained at the local level with the NWS.


Don't know where you are getting your information but the Birmingham WSO was highlighting the severe weather threat way beyond what the SPC was saying, including statements about possible tornadoes and the usual tornado preparedness tips. I have no problem with getting the public prepared in advance but, when it's obvious that there's not going to be any severe weather, it's time to call off the dogs. There is such a thing as "crying wolf" when it comes to severe weather. If you keep up the drumbeat when either there's no threat of severe weather or the threat has passed, the public eventually starts to pay less attention to severe weather forecasts, watches, and warnings. I was in emergency services for 30 years and have been in Skywarn for a couple of years down here, and I've seen the results of public apathy when false alarms become too frequent. I know that the NWS can never be close to 100% accurate when it comes to severe weather threats becoming real, but Birmingham's record for accuracy in severe weather warnings is dismal. During the 2011 outbreak, 78% of all their tornado warnings turned out to be false. At some point, the tornado sirens just become background noise when you hear them all day.
Quoting sar2401:


Don't know where you are getting your information but the Birmingham WSO was highlighting the severe weather threat way beyond what the SPC was saying, including statements about possible tornadoes and the usual tornado preparedness tips. I have no problem with getting the public prepared in advance but, when it's obvious that there's not going to be any severe weather, it's time to call off the dogs. There is such a thing as "crying wolf" when it comes to severe weather. If you keep up the drumbeat when either there's no threat of severe weather or the threat has passed, the public eventually starts to pay less attention to severe weather forecasts, watches, and warnings. I was in emergency services for 30 years and have been in Skywarn for a couple of years down here, and I've seen the results of public apathy when false alarms become too frequent. I know that the NWS can never be close to 100% accurate when it comes to severe weather threats becoming real, but Birmingham's record for accuracy in severe weather warnings is dismal. During the 2011 outbreak, 78% of all their tornado warnings turned out to be false. At some point, the tornado sirens just become background noise when you hear them all day.


Nothing is more important than public awareness when it comes to the threat for severe. People are more inclined to take action when a threat is highlighted than when it is not. And again, its one thing for the local NWS WFO to get word out and inform the public, but SPC has the final word on whether to issue a watch or not. Obviously, the threat was not great enough for any type of watch, so no one "cried wolf".
Quoting sar2401:


Don't know where you are getting your information but the Birmingham WSO was highlighting the severe weather threat way beyond what the SPC was saying, including statements about possible tornadoes and the usual tornado preparedness tips. I have no problem with getting the public prepared in advance but, when it's obvious that there's not going to be any severe weather, it's time to call off the dogs. There is such a thing as "crying wolf" when it comes to severe weather. If you keep up the drumbeat when either there's no threat of severe weather or the threat has passed, the public eventually starts to pay less attention to severe weather forecasts, watches, and warnings. I was in emergency services for 30 years and have been in Skywarn for a couple of years down here, and I've seen the results of public apathy when false alarms become too frequent. I know that the NWS can never be close to 100% accurate when it comes to severe weather threats becoming real, but Birmingham's record for accuracy in severe weather warnings is dismal. During the 2011 outbreak, 78% of all their tornado warnings turned out to be false. At some point, the tornado sirens just become background noise when you hear them all day.


All I will say is that it isn't up to the NWS to hold the public's hand. And as a citizen I would rather be warned 5 times for every 1 real tornado than to be warned 0 times for 1 torando.
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


nothing special to sonar its just sound waves, nothing magnetic that would cause them to beach themselves because of bad navigation. Most sonar can do is interfere with animals trying to hunt with echolocation.

I did an article back in the 1990s about the U.S. Navy's AUTEC (Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center) in the Bahamas near the "Tongue of the Ocean", an oddly deep canyon. Before and since, there have been beachings and other sea life behavior anomalies in the area, many blamed on the sonic testing. Here's one example: http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=371 46
Wasn't there a finding about the Joplin tornado that people ignored the sirens? Yeppers.

"Many Joplin residents either ignored or were slow to react to the first warning sirens about a massive and deadly tornado this spring, partially because of years of false alarms, the government said Tuesday."
visible satellite showing a nice looking storm moving up to the NE states
The sst look similar to late November than January.
So Heidi made landfall with 50mph 1-min winds and 70mph 10-min?
Quoting Jedkins01:


Seriously just move to the Tampa Bay area, I'm sure Norway historically has experienced more frequent damaging winter lows than we have had tropical cyclone here haha.


Not really. Storms like they have been getting are quite unusual. Go ahead, ask me how I know! :)

Quoting Neapolitan:

I did an article back in the 1990s about the U.S. Navy's AUTEC (Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center) in the Bahamas near the "Tongue of the Ocean", an oddly deep canyon. Before and since, there have been beachings and other sea life behavior anomalies in the area, many blamed on the sonic testing. Here's one example: http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=371 46
I remember this . It was on the local news. Interesting, but sad.
On the red tide..that stuff tends to be fairly obvious & recognizable when it's the cause. It smells & makes certain people go into coughing fits.

yqt1001~ 10 min winds are usually less than 1 min winds. So probably not..

The sixth confirmed tornado of 2012 is currently doing damage west of Charlotte. Trained spotters have reported a tornado, and damage IS being done. Radar velocity show s the supercell well.



Top left: Reflectivity
Top right: Base velocity
Bottom left: VIL
Bottom right: POSH (Possibility/Percentage of Severe Hail)
Quoting yqt1001:
So Heidi made landfall with 50mph 1-min winds and 70mph 10-min?


the advisory from JTWC right before landfall was 55 knots, or 65mph. i think they had it backwards...70mph 1min, 50mph 10 min lol
Quoting SPLbeater:


the advisory from JTWC right before landfall was 55 knots, or 65mph. i think they had it backwards...70mph 1min, 50mph 10 min lol


No, the official AUS advisory Hades posted said 60kts 10-min. The final JTWC update said 45kts.
Heidi made landfall with 60 knot (10-min) winds, and 45 knot (1-min) winds.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The second confirmed tornado of 2012 is currently doing damage west of Charlotte. Trained spotters have reported a tornado, and damage IS being done. Radar velocity show s the supercell well.



Top left: Reflectivity
Top right: Base velocity
Bottom left: VIL
Bottom right: POSH (Possibility/Percentage of Severe Hail)


i was just wondering how NC would fare in 2012 spring. i could care less bout snow i want spring lol. hopefully i dont get anything that bad..

a few bow echoes would be cool tho xD

T-num RSMC JMA IMD US
(10 min) (3 min) (1 min)

3.5 55 kt 55 kt 50-60 55 kt
4.0 65 kt 65 kt 65-70 65 kt


Dvorak was T4.0 before landfall
Quoting yqt1001:


No, the official AUS advisory Hades posted said 60kts 10-min. The final JTWC update said 45kts.


i didnt say FINAL i said the advisory right before LANDFALL said 55 knots.
Looks like the tornado, which has been confirmed by trained spotters, will hit Hildebran, Longview, and Hickory, NC almost dead on.
Quoting SPLbeater:


i didnt say FINAL i said the advisory right before LANDFALL said 55 knots.


Oh.

Quoting HadesGodWyvern:

T-num RSMC JMA IMD US
(10 min) (3 min) (1 min)

3.5 55 kt 55 kt 50-60 55 kt
4.0 65 kt 65 kt 65-70 65 kt


Dvorak was T4.0 before landfall


I agree, she was likely a minimal hurricane at landfall.
Tornado is gaining strength according to the radar. Signature becoming increasingly defined.
i really really really really really am tired of winter already.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Tornado is gaining strength according to the radar. Signature becoming increasingly defined.



ouuuuch.

this aint got nothin to do wit nothin we been talkin bout but i seen that the NWS WILL be adding scenarios in hotseat in the future. :D

dont know wen tho.
Had a Trace of rain. It's looked good in the gulf but I couldn't get excited over it. Had a mostly poof event look to me. Reached farther south than I'd expected.


Neo~ So sonar, so far has just (maybe) disrupted these whales?

What happened in the Bahamas effected everything, little, big, even an octopus.


Still no word on what killed all the bees just south of me.
This reminds me of spring.Not winter.
Quoting Skyepony:
Had a Trace of rain. It's looked good in the gulf but I couldn't get excited over it. Had a mostly poof event look to me. Reached farther south than I'd expected.


Neo~ So sonar, so far has just (maybe) disrupted these whales?

What happened in the Bahamas effected everything, little, big, even an octopus.


Still no word on what killed all the bees just south of me.
the quickening no maybe a under sea vent vented in the area got to be some type of explaination and they better not say fireworks
Quoting washingtonian115:
This reminds me of spring.Not winter.
i had a tentant tell me this morning her little girl of 6 says there is something wrong should of had snow by now its winter and she wants to go sleding i told the mother she can take the little girl sliding on sat winter rtns for a bit and everything will be ok
Sitting here in Wilkes County,NC watching the tornado warnings creep up here. It's 45 degrees outside...wind picking up ahead of the squall line coming straight off the ski resorts into the foothills.

Possible structural collapses and injuries have been reported to my south.
Quoting Skyepony:
Bahamas~ All sorts of fish died, some beached themselves. Other were disoriented & died despite people helping. Don't know why, sonar testing suspected..

I think there was a similar thing in Norway during the last week.
Sort of got fobbed off a bit as these highly significant things do!!
Tornado still going strong. Reportedly, homes have been completely demolished and people are trapped in their basements.

I can already tell...We're in for a long spring.
College of DuPage Meteorology
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TORNADO WARNING GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC - KGSP 605 PM EST WED JAN 11 2012
TORNADO WARNING GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC - KGSP 535 PM EST WED JAN 11 2012
SVR T-STORM WARNING GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC - KGSP 455 PM EST WED JAN 11 2012
Quoting PlazaRed:

I think there was a similar thing in Norway during the last week.
Sort of got fobbed off a bit as these highly significant things do!!
notice that too huh for more than a year now since the first reports always downplayed or per-plexed make ya wonder for sure
Greenville

NEXRAD Radar


Base Reflectivity 0.50° Elevation
Range
124 NMI



In the news:

"The most detailed data yet on emissions of heat-trapping gases show that U.S. power plants are responsible for the bulk of the pollution blamed for global warming."
Globally Since the First, "Novelty" in nature is flowing as predicted down the path to the Eschaton...or Singularity.


I cant do the link bit as I am only a novice at watching reality but here is the Norway link, if anybody cares to paste it!

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/239775-20-Tons- of-Dead-Fish-on-Norway-Beaches

Evening all only 18/c in Southern Spain today and a mere 13/c in Northern England. Sign of the times ? Or Times of the Signs?
Tornado signature is weakening...Looks like the tornado lifting.

Based strictly on damage reports, I'd say the tornado was a high-end EF2.
I heard about the dead fish in Norway. They washed up, up and away! That was what I heard. Didn't hang around the beach.

Regarding the EPA announcement:

"Power plants released 72 percent of the greenhouse gases reported to the Environmental Protection Agency for 2010, according to information released Wednesday that was the first catalog of global warming pollution by facility. The data include more than 6,700 of the largest industrial sources of greenhouse gases, or about 80 percent of total U.S. emissions."
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
notice that too huh for more than a year now since the first reports always downplayed or per-plexed make ya wonder for sure

Yer its one of those things about reality, that a lot of reports are heavily biased towards the reporters being either aged grey pony tails who take too many paracetamols to combat middle age? Or ultra left wing radical realists who have might have a slim chance of being listened too.
None of this is of much use to the fish!
A development firm in China has erected a 30-storey hotel in just 15 days, or 360 hours.

The developer, Broad Group, came under the global spotlight last year when it built a 16-storey residential block in China in just five days.
And their latest project, which is located in the south-central Chinese city of Changsha is no less impressive.
The ‘flat pack’ skyscraper was 90% pre-constructed in factories and then put together onsite. It uses one-sixth the materials of a comparable facility and is also an extremely energy-efficient building, combining thermal insulation, triple pane windows, external solar shading, fresh air heat recovery, and LED lighting. It is also earthquake-proof and is said to be able to withstand tremors of up to 9.0.
Having perfected their novel approach to construction the company now aims to build another 150 30-storey apartment buildings, hotels and offices in the same manner.
It is hoped that the ability to build property so quickly will revolutionize areas where property is in short supply.
The company believes that their approach could be used to quickly construct environmentally-friendly homes in over populated urban areas and could also be used in disaster relief to construct new buildings quickly and efficiently.

No doubt some British builders could take a leaf out of Broad’s book...

Link

Cyclone Heidi hits Pilbara coast in WA, residents on red alert
Link

January 11, 2011 – AUSTRALIA – Tropical Cyclone Heidi is crossing Western Australia’s Pilbara coast, bringing strong winds and heavy rains to the region. A red alert has been sounded for Port Hedland as storm surges threaten to inundate low lying parts of the town. “We’re certainly feeling the full brunt of Cyclone Heidi as she crosses the coast,” Port Hedland Mayor Kelly Howlett told Channel 9 this morning. “She’s certainly packing a little punch at the moment. “We’ve certainly got the wind gusts of a about 140km and very heavy rain.” Heidi started making landfall around 4.30am WST. She urged all residents to remain indoors until the official all clear is given. Communities between Pardoo and Whim Creek have all been ordered to shelter while those further inland were told to gather up emergency supplies and brace for Heidi’s wrath. The Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) said winds of up to 120km/h had been whipping along the coast with destructive gusts up to 150 km/h possible in some places. Forecasters said up to 250 mm of rain is possible with the storm. The West Australian newspaper reported that Port Hedland’s airport and bulk export port had shut down. –Herald Sun
Quoting PlazaRed:
I cant do the link bit as I am only a novice at watching reality but here is the Norway link, if anybody cares to paste it!

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/239775-20-Tons- of-Dead-Fish-on-Norway-Beaches

Evening all only 18/c in Southern Spain today and a mere 13/c in Northern England. Sign of the times ? Or Times of the Signs?


anybody see aussie today hear wildfires are flaring up outside of his city fanning of the high winds
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:




Almost the same name!
Nikola Tesla

http://www.ntesla.org/ntesla/NT-P1.html

One of the old mob along with Steiner, Rutherford, Einstein and a bookfull of others.
"Que amigos predidos?"
What friends we have lost?
Quiet on here tonight Keep, has there been some sort of Acropolis I missed whilst checking for background radiation?
First time I have seen this wording "Possible wake low event". Anyone have an explaniation of what it is?


0429 PM NON-TSTM WND GST 2 NW LONG KEY 24.84N 80.86W
01/11/2012 M46.00 MPH GMZ032 FL BUOY

A WIND GUST OF 40 KNOTS...OR 46 MPH...FROM THE SOUTH WAS
RECORDED BY THE LONG KEY LIGHT C-MAN STATION...ON THE
NORTHERN FRINGE OF A STRATIFORM RAIN SHIELD. THIS IS A
POSSIBLE WAKE LOW EVENT.
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
First time I have seen this wording "Possible wake low event". Anyone have an explaniation of what it is?


0429 PM NON-TSTM WND GST 2 NW LONG KEY 24.84N 80.86W
01/11/2012 M46.00 MPH GMZ032 FL BUOY

A WIND GUST OF 40 KNOTS...OR 46 MPH...FROM THE SOUTH WAS
RECORDED BY THE LONG KEY LIGHT C-MAN STATION...ON THE
NORTHERN FRINGE OF A STRATIFORM RAIN SHIELD. THIS IS A
POSSIBLE WAKE LOW EVENT.

Wikipedia says: "A wake low, or wake depression, is a mesoscale low-pressure area which trails the mesoscale high following a squall line."
18z GFS showing extreme cold in Western Canada. Cold anomaly get's down to -67 degrees Fahrenheit at the 186 hr forecast period. Also note the north pole (or the area near it) is about 50 degrees warmer than average.




Quoting Neapolitan:

Wikipedia says: "A wake low, or wake depression, is a mesoscale low-pressure area which trails the mesoscale high following a squall line."


Thanks
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
notice that too huh for more than a year now since the first reports always downplayed or per-plexed make ya wonder for sure

Yer:- there was some article on the BBC blog thing I think about a large creature floating in the sea outside Tokyo a few days ago as well. Some said it was sign of a possible earthquake. I should make a note of the links.
Massive snows over in the alps area of Europe, rest of our zone seems to be warmer than normal, cooling a bit at weekend.
everything is ok move along nothing to see here it was only fireworks
0607 PM TSTM WND DMG 3 SSE ICARD 35.69N 81.44W
01/11/2012 BURKE NC 911 CALL CENTER

COUNTY COMMS REPORTS 20 TO 25 MOBILE HOMES DESTROYED AND
AROUND A DOZEN HOUSES WITH MAJOR DAMAGE ALONG JOHNSON
BRIDGE RD IN THE ICARD AND HILDEBRAN AREA. MULTIPLE
INJURIES...NO KNOWN FATALITIES. POSSIBLE TORNADO.


Quoting TomTaylor:
Hot babe singing E.T. by Katy Perry




That form of cover has been very popular ever since Numa Numa....

anyways, the high on Friday is going to be -15C (near 0F)! First real cold(ish) day in over a month.
Quoting yqt1001:


That form of cover has been very popular ever since Numa Numa....

anyways, the high on Friday is going to be 15C (near 0F)! First real cold(ish) day in over a month.
you mean minus 15c cause 15c is 60f the minus is near 5f
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
you mean minus 15c cause 15c is 60f the minus is near 5f


Yeah I do.
Quoting TomTaylor:
18z GFS showing extreme cold in Western Canada. Cold anomaly get's down to -67 degrees Fahrenheit at the 186 hr forecast period. Also note the north pole (or the area near it) is about 50 degrees warmer than average.





Can we have that picture back please, it was/is probably significant and may be of use during the next week or so. It seems to have been replaced by a small red X in the top left corner of where it was, the remaining white space is of little use as we cant even write in it!
Maybe it just show up on my screen, this way, at this hour in time.
we be down to minus 15c on sat night sunday morning rain tonight tommorow then changing up to snow for friday and then cold blustery for remainder of weekend
Quoting PlazaRed:

Can we have that picture back please, it was/is probably significant and may be of use during the next week or so. It seems to have been replaced by a small red X in the top left corner of where it was, the remaining white space is of little use as we cant even write in it!
Maybe it just show up on my screen, this way, at this hour in time.
Hmm it's still showing up on my end, but here's the link to the loop, and here is the link to the individual image.

EDIT

Keep in mind that is the 18z run. 12z and 0z runs are usually quite a bit more accurate than 6z and 18z runs. Unfortunately, Dr. Maue doesn't keep an archive for GFS forecast temperature anomalies so which ever model run is the latest is what will be displayed. We can look at the 12z ECMWF, however. ECMWF is generally a better model than the GFS anyway.


Here are the 12z 850mb ECMWF temperature anomalies averaged over the next 8 days showing basically the same thing, however, the ECMWF does appear to be a little weaker with the cold anomaly over Western Canada.



Link
Quoting yqt1001:


That form of cover has been very popular ever since Numa Numa....

anyways, the high on Friday is going to be -15C (near 0F)! First real cold(ish) day in over a month.
Yeah I suppose. Just thought I'd share though
For those interested in Cyclone Heidi an update from ABCNews
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #25
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY ONE (07U)
9:00 AM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 9:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category One (985 hPa) located at 20.8S 118.5E or 55 km south of Port Hedland has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south southwest at 6 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: OVERLAND

Gale Force Winds
=================
40 NM from the center in northern quadrants
25 NM from the center in southern quadrants

Tropical Cyclone Heidi crossed the Pilbara coast just to the east of Port Hedland at around 4:30 am. Gales with gusts to 100 km/h are possible in areas between Whim Creek and Pardoo with gusts to 120 km/h possible close to the cyclone centre for the next few hours.

Heavy rainfall is occurring near the system and rainfall totals of 100-25 0mm are likely across the central and eastern Pilbara. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Tides along the Pilbara coast will be higher than normal although the threat of dangerous storm tide has now passed.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for coastal areas from Pardoo to Whim Creek and adjacent inland areas.

The Cyclone WARNING from Dampier to Whim Creek has been cancelled.

Forecast and Intensity
======================

12 HRS: 22.0S 117.9E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
24 HRS: 23.7S 117.0E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
48 HRS: 27.4S 117.2E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
72 HRS: 28.4S 119.9E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)

Additional Information
=======================

The system is likely to be below Tropical Cyclone strength during Thursday afternoon as the effects of landfall take effect.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center will be issued at 2:30 AM UTC..
SH062012 - Tropical Cyclone (<64 kt) HEIDI

Storm Relative 1km Geostationary Visible Imagery

..click image for Loop

Click on Loop for ZOOM



Quoting bappit:
Wasn't there a finding about the Joplin tornado that people ignored the sirens? Yeppers.

"Many Joplin residents either ignored or were slow to react to the first warning sirens about a massive and deadly tornado this spring, partially because of years of false alarms, the government said Tuesday."


Not the governments fault, if people want to ignore a tornado siren that's their own prerogative, live (or die) with the consequences. Think anyone in that area will ever ignore a tornado siren again? doubt it.
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Not the governments fault, if people want to ignore a tornado siren that's their own prerogative, live (or die) with the consequences. Think anyone in that area will ever ignore a tornado siren again? doubt it.

Hard way to get there if you ask me.
Now that the tornado has passed (obviously :P), news stations have been able to go assess some of the damage. As I guessed earlier, the damage is indicative of a high-end EF2 or, even possibly a low-end EF3. Here are some quotes:

""According to some emergency personnel, eastern Burke Co. "was destroyed"."

"Several homes were blown off their foundations, and many people were trapped in the rubble. We're told at least 10 people were injured, one seriously."
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Now that the tornado has passed (obviously :P), news stations have been able to go assess some of the damage. As I guessed earlier, the damage is indicative of a high-end EF2 or, even possibly a low-end EF3. Here are some quotes:

""According to some emergency personnel, eastern Burke Co. "was destroyed"."

"Several homes were blown off their foundations, and many people were trapped in the rubble. We're told at least 10 people were injured, one seriously."
No one wants a repeat of 011 again.Please no not this year....
0523 PM TSTM WND DMG 3 N ELLENBORO 35.37N 81.76W
01/11/2012 RUTHERFORD NC EMERGENCY MNGR

RUTHERFORD EM REPORTED A LARGE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES
DESTROYED IN THE HARVEY LOGAN RD AND PINEY MTN RD AREAS.
NUMEROUS INJURIES...NO KNOWN FATALITIIES. POSSIBLE
TORNADO.


Here's the link to the local NWS reports. Looks like it hailed across upstate SC through parts of WNC.


Keep~ I'm guessing mosquito control killed the bees south of me. They sprayed there those nights. Report in the news when it happened, then nothing.
According to the Tornado History Project, there have only been three January F2 tornadoes in North Carolina since 1950. (There have been none stronger than F2.) None of the previous F2s caused injuries or fatalities.
The Weather Channel just showed a picture of the tornado...It was very large. Here is an image:


(Click to enlarge)
Quoting Neapolitan:
According to the Tornado History Project, there have only been three January F2 tornadoes in North Carolina since 1950. (There have been none stronger than F2.) None of the previous F2s caused injuries or fatalities.

I'm tempted to say that, given the appearance and damage, it was a low-end EF3.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The Weather Channel just showed a picture of the tornado...It was very large. Here is an image:


(Click to enlarge)



Whoa. Are you sure that is a South Carolina tornado in January? Looks like a mid-spring tornado outbreak wedge monster to me....
Oops double post...
Quoting WxGeekVA:



Whoa. Are you sure that is a South Carolina tornado in January? Looks like a mid-spring tornado outbreak wedge monster to me....

Correction: South Carolina --> North Carolina

And yes, that is from today. Here is an image of the damage...Looks like high-end EF2/low-end EF3 damage:

Sounds like a pretty bad tornado in the Carolinas today. TA13, is it possible for you to post an image of the tornado (on radar) at it's strongest?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Correction: South Carolina --> North Carolina

And yes, that is from today. Here is an image of the damage...Looks like high-end EF2/low-end EF3 damage:

I'd say at least an EF3.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Correction: South Carolina --> North Carolina

And yes, that is from today. Here is an image of the damage...Looks like high-end EF2/low-end EF3 damage:



Even more impressive....
goodbye website..my website is no longer available, :D
It's always the little things that are the most telling:

Manitoba chiefs declare emergency over ice road delays

"Northern Manitoba aboriginal leaders have declared a state of emergency over delays in the opening of winter roads.

"We declared a state of emergency so that the government of Canada and the province of Manitoba immediately start working with First Nations to develop a contingency plan. We need to make sure that essential resupplies of food and fuel arrive in our communities," said MKO (Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak Inc.) Grand Chief David Harper in a release.

St. Theresa Point First Nation Chief David McDougall said the failure to build an all-weather road "is threatening the health and safety of First Nations.

"Without being able to get the supplies to retrofit our homes to receive clean running water, we are left fully exposed to the next pandemic," McDougall said. St. Theresa Point was hit particularly hard by the 2009 H1N1 flu outbreak, sending more than a dozen flu patients to Winnipeg with severe respiratory problems.

Aboriginal leaders said they have repeatedly urged government to build an all-season road, and they say it's time for Ottawa to involve the military to get the job done. They say they need the immediate delivery of 77 tractor-trailer loads of goods.

The province already has acknowledged that this year's winter road season will be shorter than normal."


More...

In other news: there have now been 38 overnight low temperature records set this month in the United States, and 1,687 daily high temperature records, making for a somewhat lopsided ratio of 44.39 to 1.
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #28
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY ONE (07U)
11:00 AM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 11:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category One (988 hPa) located at 21.0S 118.4E or 80 km south southwest of Port Hedland has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south at 7 knots.

ropical Cyclone Heidi is moving across the Pilbara with gusts to 120 km/h possible close to the cyclone center over areas inland from Port Hedland and Whim Creek extending towards Tom Price this afternoon.

The system is weakening as it moves further inland and is expected to be below Tropical Cyclone intensity later this afternoon or evening.

Heavy rainfall is occurring near the system and rainfall totals of 100-250 mm are likely to the south and east of the cyclone path. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Tides along the Pilbara coast will be higher than normal.

ALL CLEAR: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Pardoo and Whim Creek including the communities of Pardoo, Port Hedland, South Hedland, and Whim Creek, are advised that wind and storm surge dangers have passed but you need to take extreme caution to avoid the dangers caused by damage.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for Inland areas of the Pilbara south of Whim Creek and Port Hedland extending towards but not including Tom Price.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center will be issued at 7:30 AM UTC..
im bored
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Correction: South Carolina --> North Carolina

And yes, that is from today. Here is an image of the damage...Looks like high-end EF2/low-end EF3 damage:

yikes, hope everyone is okay. Damage in that picture doesnt look extreme but it still takes a pretty strong tornado to do that damage, in the ef2-ef3 zone based off that picture.
12 Infected With New Swine Flu Strain

By Jason Koebler January 11, 2012 RSS Feed Print

January 12, 2012 INDIANA - The days of medical masks at airports and widespread panic may be coming back that because at least 12 humans are believed to have been infected with a new strain of swine flu that not covered by this season vaccine. The new swine flu strain, H3N2v, has shown at least some potential for human-to-human transmission in those 12 individuals, which makes it especially dangerous. Between 2009 and mid-2010, more than 17,000 people died worldwide from the highly contagious H1N1 swine flu strain, leading the World Health Organization to call the strain a pandemic. The 12 people with the new swine flu strain live in Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. Officials for the Centers for Disease Control say the sample size of H3N2 infections is too small to know whether it will pose a threat to the population at large. It s a very small sample and it geographically spread, which makes it more difficult to get a handle on it, says Jeffrey Dimond, a CDC spokesman. Most of the cases have come through direct contact with the animals, through the 4H Club and that sort of thing. In order to have a true threat of causing an epidemic or pandemic, Dimond says the virus needs to spread easily between humans. If you re in close contact with someone who s ill, that s one thing, he says. To make it like the pandemic flu of a few years ago, it has to be highly contagious from human to human. H3N2v or another new flu strain could disrupt what CDC officials expected to be a relatively quiet flu season. Each year s flu vaccine protects against specific strains of the virus that researchers expect to circulate. In October, Joe Bresee, chief of CDC s influenza epidemiology and prevention branch, said he was confident this year s vaccine would protect against the most dangerous flu strains. U.S. News

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/01/11/12 -infected-with-new-swine-flu-strain
Really? No Danger!!!?

Fukushima’s Impact on the Ocean Analyzed
No danger from water, but marine sediments are the big question

By Prachi Patel / January 2012
In April, the Fukushima Daiichi plant sent 68 million becquerels per cubic meter of radioactive materials into the Pacific, making it the largest accidental release in history.
Special Report: Fukushima and the Future of Nuclear Power

Editor's Note: This is part of the IEEE Spectrum special report: Fukushima and the Future of Nuclear Power.

11 January 2012—One month after the March 2011 Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear accident, ocean water at the plant’s wastewater discharge point had 45 million times the concentration of radioactive cesium-137 than before the accident, according to researchers in Japan and from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. The numbers plummeted the next month because ocean currents moved the contaminants away from shore. By July, numbers were down to 10 000 times as high as normal.


What’s also troubling is that cesium-137 concentrations have stayed at near constant levels since July, implying that radioactive water is still being released, either directly from the reactors or indirectly from groundwater. "I’m convinced there are ongoing leaks," Buesseler says. "Even if you plug all leaks and shut down reactors, groundwater keeps leaching into the ocean and these waters and contaminated sediments can be a long-term source of cesium-137 for decades to a century."


Link
There are now 344 Day's until the Winter Solstice.

Enjoy your evening.
Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Western Australia
Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre

Media: The Standard Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with this
warning.

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 29
Issued at 1:03 pm WST on Thursday 12 January 2012

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for inland areas of the Pilbara south of Whim
Creek and Port Hedland extending towards but not including Tom Price.

At 1:00 pm WST Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category 1 was estimated to be
100 kilometres south southwest of Port Hedland and
moving south southwest at 12 kilometres per hour.


Tropical Cyclone Heidi is moving across the Pilbara with gusts to 120
kilometres per hour possible close to the cyclone centre over areas inland from
Port Hedland and Whim Creek extending towards Tom Price this afternoon.

The system is weakening as it moves further inland and is expected to be below
Tropical Cyclone intensity this evening.

Heavy rainfall is occurring near the system and rainfall totals of 100-250mm
are likely to the south and east of the cyclone path. Refer to Flood Advices
for further details.

ALL CLEAR: People in or near coastal and inland communities between Pardoo and
Whim Creek including the communities of Pardoo, Port Hedland, South Hedland,
and Whim Creek, are advised that wind and storm surge dangers have passed but
you need to take extreme caution to avoid the dangers caused by damage.

Details of Tropical Cyclone Heidi at 1:00 pm WST:
.Centre located near...... 21.2 degrees South 118.4 degrees East
.Location accuracy........ within 20 kilometres
.Recent movement.......... towards the south southwest at 12 kilometres per hour
.Wind gusts near centre... 100 kilometres per hour
.Severity category........ 1
.Central pressure......... 990 hectoPascals

The next advice will be issued by 3:00 pm WST Thursday 12 January.


Tropical Cyclone Heidi crossed the Pilbara coast just to the east of Port
Hedland at around 4:30am WST on Thursday morning as a high end category 2 system
with maximum winds of around 60 knots
confirmed by surface observations.

The system is now weakening over land although there remains a well defined
radar signature to suggest that the cyclone may still be at category 2
intensity. However the system is likely to be below Tropical Cyclone strength
during Thursday afternoon as the effects of landfall take effect.

Heidi should continue its south southwest track further inland with heavy
rainfall expected south and east of the track.



Quoting Patrap:
There are now 344 Day's until the Winter Solstice.

Enjoy your evening.
thanks pat, I'm enjoying my evening for sure-got no homework! da best
Quoting yqt1001:


Oh.



I agree, she was likely a minimal hurricane at landfall.

Official BOM number are 60kts or 69mph, just 5mph short of Hurricane strength which is 74mph.
Quoting sunlinepr:
Really? No Danger!!!?

Fukushima’s Impact on the Ocean Analyzed
No danger from water, but marine sediments are the big question

By Prachi Patel / January 2012
In April, the Fukushima Daiichi plant sent 68 million becquerels per cubic meter of radioactive materials into the Pacific, making it the largest accidental release in history.
Special Report: Fukushima and the Future of Nuclear Power

Editor's Note: This is part of the IEEE Spectrum special report: Fukushima and the Future of Nuclear Power.

11 January 2012—One month after the March 2011 Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear accident, ocean water at the plant’s wastewater discharge point had 45 million times the concentration of radioactive cesium-137 than before the accident, according to researchers in Japan and from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. The numbers plummeted the next month because ocean currents moved the contaminants away from shore. By July, numbers were down to 10 000 times as high as normal.


What’s also troubling is that cesium-137 concentrations have stayed at near constant levels since July, implying that radioactive water is still being released, either directly from the reactors or indirectly from groundwater. "I’m convinced there are ongoing leaks," Buesseler says. "Even if you plug all leaks and shut down reactors, groundwater keeps leaching into the ocean and these waters and contaminated sediments can be a long-term source of cesium-137 for decades to a century."


Link


Not to throw water on a flaming headline, but the the normal background of cesium-137 is practically zero. Cesium 137 is a man-made element produced as a by-product of nuclear fission. The only reason there is any cesium-137 in the natural environment is due to nuclear testing (or locally due to nuclear accidents).

The example I like to use is taking 1 gram piece of platinum and bury it in your backyard. Now unless your lucky and happen to have platinum in your backyard, burying that platinum just increased the amount in your backyard by several million percent. While true, it's a completely meaningless metric.

Sensationalizing just obfuscates the important facts.
Quoting Chucktown:


Nothing is more important than public awareness when it comes to the threat for severe. People are more inclined to take action when a threat is highlighted than when it is not. And again, its one thing for the local NWS WFO to get word out and inform the public, but SPC has the final word on whether to issue a watch or not. Obviously, the threat was not great enough for any type of watch, so no one "cried wolf".


I'm either not getting my point across clearly or you're failing to understand my concern. I know that, as a meteorologist, you have a different viewpoint than I do. As I wrote, I have no problem with the WSO highlighting a severe threat on the weather radio and other public feeds. I have a problem when that same threat continues to be highlighted when a threat no longer exists, even to the point that the storm system has moved out of the area. As a TV meteorologist, I'm sure you've been on the horns of a dilemma when the local WSO is putting out a forecast you don't agree with. In this case, the local EMA's, Skywarn nets, and other storm spotter organizations were continuing to man their posts until after midnight, when it was clear even to a non-meterologist like me that no severe weather was going to occur. The public does listen to the weather radio, and the TV mets tend echo what's being fed from the WSO, so the 10 pm weathercasts were still using highlight maps of areas where severe weather was expected, when none was happening or ever going to happen. The WSO has to realize that their actions, even in the absence of warnings, still impact a lot of people who feed them information they desperately need in the event of a real severe weather situation. Once they knew that a severe weather threat was not going to develop, they should have downgraded the Hazardous Weather Outlook language and the nowcasts. No one expects the NWS to be right all the time, and there's no embarrassment, IMHO, in admitting that Mother Nature just played a fast one on us this time.
Quoting skook:


That chart can't be right - not enough red.
Quoting sunlinepr:
12 Infected With New Swine Flu Strain

By Jason Koebler January 11, 2012 RSS Feed Print

January 12, 2012 INDIANA - The days of medical masks at airports and widespread panic may be coming back that because at least 12 humans are believed to have been infected with a new strain of swine flu that not covered by this season vaccine. The new swine flu strain, H3N2v, has shown at least some potential for human-to-human transmission in those 12 individuals, which makes it especially dangerous. Between 2009 and mid-2010, more than 17,000 people died worldwide from the highly contagious H1N1 swine flu strain, leading the World Health Organization to call the strain a pandemic. The 12 people with the new swine flu strain live in Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. Officials for the Centers for Disease Control say the sample size of H3N2 infections is too small to know whether it will pose a threat to the population at large. It s a very small sample and it geographically spread, which makes it more difficult to get a handle on it, says Jeffrey Dimond, a CDC spokesman. Most of the cases have come through direct contact with the animals, through the 4H Club and that sort of thing. In order to have a true threat of causing an epidemic or pandemic, Dimond says the virus needs to spread easily between humans. If you re in close contact with someone who s ill, that s one thing, he says. To make it like the pandemic flu of a few years ago, it has to be highly contagious from human to human. H3N2v or another new flu strain could disrupt what CDC officials expected to be a relatively quiet flu season. Each year s flu vaccine protects against specific strains of the virus that researchers expect to circulate. In October, Joe Bresee, chief of CDC s influenza epidemiology and prevention branch, said he was confident this year s vaccine would protect against the most dangerous flu strains. U.S. News

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/01/11/12 -infected-with-new-swine-flu-strain


Good heavens. As a paramagic, this is something I actually know about. Every year, some people show up with the so-called "Swine" flu, because certain animals acts as a reservoir for the virus. As the article noted (after scaring everyone to death), these people were in direct contact with animals, and there's no evidence of human to human spread. The Hx flu virus is a fast mutator, and that's one of the reasons it's not easily spread by human to human contact. I hope people don't start pulling those useless 3M masks out again and start running around in a panic until there's something to actually worry about.
Decent band moving into southern new york and new england. Not a snow band, but...

Quoting Xyrus2000:


Not to throw water on a flaming headline, but the the normal background of cesium-137 is practically zero. Cesium 137 is a man-made element produced as a by-product of nuclear fission. The only reason there is any cesium-137 in the natural environment is due to nuclear testing (or locally due to nuclear accidents).

The example I like to use is taking 1 gram piece of platinum and bury it in your backyard. Now unless your lucky and happen to have platinum in your backyard, burying that platinum just increased the amount in your backyard by several million percent. While true, it's a completely meaningless metric.

Sensationalizing just obfuscates the important facts.


Thank you, Xyrus, that was a very good anology. I really wish that reporters had the skill (or maybe the will) to put big numbers like this in perspective so people will be able to make reasonable judgements about relative risk.
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #30
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY ONE (07U)
3:00 PM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 2:00 PM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category One (990 hPa) located at 21.4S 118.4E or 125 km south of Port Hedland has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 55 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south southwest at 7 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: OVERLAND

Gale Force Winds
=================
25 NM from the center

Tropical Cyclone Heidi is moving across the Pilbara with gusts to 100 km/h possible close to the cyclone center over areas inland from Port Hedland and Whim Creek extending towards Tom Price.

The system is weakening as it moves further inland and is expected to be below Tropical Cyclone intensity this evening.

Heavy rainfall is occurring near the system and rainfall totals of 100-250mm are likely to the south and east of the cyclone path. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for inland areas of the Pilbara south of Whim Creek and Port Hedland extending towards but not including Tom Price.

Forecast and Intensity
======================

12 HRS: 23.0S 117.7E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
24 HRS: 24.7S 117.0E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
48 HRS: 27.8S 118.0E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
72 HRS: 28.8S 121.4E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)

Additional Information
=======================

Tropical Cyclone Heidi is weakening over land although there remains a well defined radar signature and symmetric appearance on satellite imagery. The
system is expected to weaken below Tropical Cyclone strength during Thursday evening using a standard overland decay model.

The circulation should continue its south southwest track further inland with heavy rainfall expected south and east of the track for the next few days.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center will be issued at 10:30 AM UTC..
Quoting AussieStorm:

Official BOM number are 60kts or 69mph, just 5mph short of Hurricane strength which is 74mph.


definitely would have been a hurricane by the JTWC standards.
flu is spreading quick here in e.cen fl. everyone at the office has it.
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #31
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY ONE (07U)
6:00 PM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 5:00 PM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category One (990 hPa) located at 21.8S 118.3E or 170 km south of Port Hedland and 110 km north northeast of Tom Price has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 55 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south at 7 knots.

Tropical Cyclone Heidi is moving across the central inland Pilbara, with gusts to 100 km/h possible close to the cyclone center over areas south of Whim Creek extending towards Tom Price.

The system is weakening as it moves further inland and is expected to be below Tropical Cyclone intensity later this evening. However, squally conditions are likely to continue near the center overnight as it tracks into the northeast Gascoyne.

Heavy rainfall is continuing near the system center, and rainfall totals of 50-100mm with isolated heavier falls are likely to the south and east of the cyclone path. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for inland areas of the central Pilbara, south of Whim Creek extending towards but not including Tom Price.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center will be issued at 13:30 PM UTC..
Beautiful morning here in central Virginia. Clear skies and 40 degrees on the porch.
Miami NWS Discussion

FRIDAY...MDLS CONTINUE TO SHOW ANOTHER SHORT WAVE RAPIDLY MOVING
SOUTH ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS PUSHING A DRIER, BUT MORE
SIGNIFICANT COLD FRNT DOWN THE PENINSULA. THE ONLY CHANGE PREVIOUS
RUNS IS MODELS ARE NOW A LITTLE FASTER WITH THIS SYSTEM AND MOVE
IT THROUGH SOUTH FLORIDA BY FRI MORNING. NO SIGNIFICANT PRECIP IS
FORECAST WITH THIS SECOND FRONT...HOWEVER...A MUCH DRIER AND
COOLER AIRMASS IS EXPECTED TO USHER SOUTH BEHIND IT WITH MAX TEMPS
REMAINING BELOW 70 ACROSS THE INTERIOR AND WEST COAST AND JUST
AROUND 70 SOUTHEAST AREAS.

LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY...A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE IS
EXPECTED TO BUILD OVER SOUTHEAST U.S. BEHIND THE FRONT AND THIS
WILL CONTINUE TO TRANSPORT COOLER AND DRIER AIRMASS DOWN THE
PENINSULA THROUGH THIS PERIOD. MDLS SUGGEST MIN TEMPS COULD COULD
FALL QUITE CLOSE TO FREEZING ACROSS EXTREME NW
INTERIOR...ESPECIALLY SUNDAY MORNING WITH PATCHY FROST DEFINITELY
NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION. 40S AND 50S ARE EXPECTED ACROSS MOST OF
THE SOUTHEAST AND WEST COAST.

MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY...THE SURFACE RIDGE SHOULD BUILD
EASTWARD WITH THE SURFACE FLOW SHIFTING TO MORE NE-E. THIS WILL
LIKELY HAVE A MODERATING EFFECT ON TEMPS. WL INDICATE A WARMING
TREND THROUGH THIS PERIOD.

For West Palm Beach...

Fun fact for the morning: according to the NWS, as of yesterday (1/11), Midland, Texas, has received more snow this winter than Chicago, Minneapolis, and Buffalo. Combined.
More pictures of the tornado damage in western North Carolina, which was likely a high-end EF2 or low-end EF3. 15 people are injured according to their local news, but I do not think there have been any deaths...fortunately. Per request, I'll have radar images of the supercell when I get back from school this afternoon.





15 injured in storms in 2 North Carolina counties



RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) At least 15 people were injured and at least 60 buildings damaged when a possible tornado struck two counties in western North Carolina, the National Weather Service said Thursday.

The storms struck in Rutherford and Burke counties late Wednesday afternoon as a cold front moved through the western Carolinas, said meteorologist Neil Dixon with the weather service office in Greer, S.C.

Ten people were hurt in Ellenboro in Rutherford County, sheriff's Sgt. Dwayne Wright said. Two of the injuries were serious, but Wright did not know the extent of the injuries.

At least 10 buildings were damaged in a 3-square-mile residential area, but Wright said officials expected to get a better count on the damage during surveys Thursday.

Some people initially were trapped in their homes.
"Everybody's out that we know of," Wright said. "As far as we know, everybody has been accounted for."
At least five people were hurt when the storm struck a few minutes later in the Icard area of Burke County, Dixon said.

County officials initially estimated 50 buildings had been damaged, he said. Burke County officials did not immediately respond to messages left by the Associated Press early Thursday.

A weather service survey team planned to tour the area Thursday to confirm that the damage was caused by a tornado, as well as to determine how strong the storm was, Dixon said.

The storm cell that caused the damage had dumped some hail in northwestern South Carolina before moving into North Carolina, he said.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
More pictures of the tornado damage in western North Carolina, which was likely a high-end EF2 or low-end EF3. 15 people are injured according to their local news, but I do not think there have been any deaths...fortunately. Per request, I'll have radar images of the supercell when I get back from school this afternoon.







I'll agree with you there after having looked at the damage pictures myself. I estimate an EF-3 classification after the NWS finishes checking it out.
Why isn't that a coincidence.This year we're suppose to have an ice storm on Tuesday.That happened last year after the Martin Luther King J.R holiday as well.
06Z DGEX PSU E-Wall

This mornings 06Z DGEX has some harsh cold for he southeast late next week, with sub-30s in central Florida and low 20s for the remainder of the interior. I don't think it will get quite get cold but it could be around freezing in FL at this time.
Someone noted about the sst warming except for cooling.I know cold blast could come and easly cool them,but I think the warm sst could contribute to the tornado season we have...like last year for an example.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Someone noted about the sst warming except for cooling.I know cold blast could come and easly cool them,but I think the warm sst could contribute to the tornado season we have...like last year for an exsample.


I hope that the tornado season is good this spring, because my dad and I are taking two weeks off from school and work to go storm chasing in late March.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


I hope that the tornado season is good this spring, because my dad and I are taking two weeks off from school and work to go storm chasing in late March.
Yeah.Good as in no one get's hurt/destruction right?
Quoting washingtonian115:
Yeah.Good as in no one get's hurt/destruction right?


Exactly. I would hate to be chasing a storm and watch it destroy a town or something....
I've moved into the Severe D2 category, ahhh, nice to be back in that section. Not sure why Beaumont and along the TX/LA border is in D3, they get all the rains more than us.

Quoting Neapolitan:
Fun fact for the morning: according to the NWS, as of yesterday (1/11), Midland, Texas, has received more snow this winter than Chicago, Minneapolis, and Buffalo. Combined.
i can attest to the Mpls part in that! with a small dusting yesterday, we went from nothing to nothing. Strong cold winds grew ice on my beard this morning, which is fine with me as long as there is snow and some indicators it should be winter... brown and frigid is just plain nasty :(
edit: that Buffalo is included astounds me
From first hand experience with drought in 2009 and 2011, you do not want to be in D3 and D4 classification. Those start messing with your water supply and affecting the landscape such as trees, one hundred yr old trees, foundations, water line breaks, concrete buckling, and vegetation. D2 is nothing compared to D4 and now I can attest to that.
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #32
TROPICAL CYCLONE HEIDI, CATEGORY ONE (07U)
9:00 PM WST January 12 2012
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At 8:00 PM WST, Tropical Cyclone Heidi, Category One (991 hPa) located at 22.1S 118.3E or 200 km south of Port Hedland and 85 km northeast of Tom Price has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south at 7 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: OVERLAND

Gale Force Winds
=================
20 NM from the center in northeast quadrant
15 NM from the center in northwest quadrant
30 NM from the center in southeast quadrant
15 NM from the center in southwest quadrant

Tropical Cyclone Heidi is moving across the central inland Pilbara, with gusts to 95 km/h possible close to the cyclone center over areas to the northeast of Tom Price.

The system is weakening as it moves further inland and is expected to weaken below Tropical Cyclone intensity in the next few hours. However, squally conditions are likely to continue near the center overnight as it tracks into the northeast Gascoyne.

Heavy rainfall is continuing near the system center, and rainfall totals of 50-100 mm with isolated heavier falls are likely to the south and east of the cyclone path. Refer to Flood Advices for further details.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

A Cyclone WARNING is now current for inland areas of the central Pilbara to the northeast of Tom Price.

Forecast and Intensity
======================

12 HRS: 23.8S 117.6E - 30 knots (Tropical Low)
24 HRS: 25.6S 117.3E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
48 HRS: 28.0S 118.9E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
72 HRS: 29.0S 123.0E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)

Additional Information
=======================

Tropical Cyclone Heidi continues to weaken over land. The Port Hedland radar has showed significant weakening over the past couple of hours, and the center is becoming difficult to track.

The circulation should continue its south southwest track further inland with heavy rainfall expected south and east of the track for the next few days. Squally conditions are likely to continue near the center overnight as it tracks into the northeast Gascoyne.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center will be issued at 16:30 PM UTC..
Good morning..Lil sneau on the plateau....yay
Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #2
DEPRESSION SUBTROPICALE 06-20112012
16:00 PM RET January 12 2012
=======================================

At 12:00 PM UTC, Subtropical Depression 06R (997 hPa) located at 25.7S 52.9E has 10 minute sustained winds of 25 knots with gusts of 40 knots. The disturbance is reported as moving west at 3 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: NIL

Near Gale Force Winds
========================
Locally gale force winds 35 knots and very rough to high seas, up to 240 NM from the center in the southern semi-circle due to the gradient effect with the subtropical high pressures

Forecast and Intensity
=======================

12 HRS: 25.1S 50.7E - 30 knots (Depression Subtropicale)
24 HRS: 24.5S 48.6E - 30 knots (Depression Subtropicale)
48 HRS: 26.5S 44.7E - 25 knots (Depression Subtropicale)
72 HRS: 27.5S 38.5E - 20 knots (Low Pressure Area)

Additional Information
======================

Last satellite pictures and ascat data at 0449 AM UTC show a wide low pressure area within exist temporally several centers. There is an asymmetric low level circulation pattern with winds by the order of 15-20 knots in the north-western semi-circle and 25-30 knots in the southeastern semi-circle, locally 35kt, up to 250 NM from the center. Sea surface temperature are near 26°c. There is quite no deep convective activity near the center. Monsoon flow supplies the north-eastern part of the circulation. Low level convergence is good in the south-eastern sector, on the northwestern edge of the subtropical anticyclone. Vertical wind shear is weak as the system is now located under the axis of an upper level trough.

Consequently, convective activity should rebuilt temporally near the center in the next hours. System should move slowly westward over the northern edge of the strengthening subtropical high pressures. So system is forecast to move under the upper level trough, under weak vertical wind shear during the next 24 hours, but monsoon inflow should weaken as the system is shifting towards madagascar. Vertical wind shear is forecast to strengthen again up to 48 hours. Available numerical weather prediction models are fairly good agreement for west and then west south-west track with a very slow filling up. Winds will remain strong in the southern sector of the disturbance due to the gradient effect with the subtropical high anticyclone.

CURRENT INTENSITY DOESN'T JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF REGULAR WARNING.
6 inches of rain in my area, and detention basins were filled to the brink, are now WAY down and only at normal levels where they ought to be. We need another major rain event like that soon, but I can only hope for that.
ONE thing of interest is....the entire Gulf coast states are in a drought even if only D0, and on the Atlantic side all the way from FL to Maryland. That is unprecedented to me and only can point to one thing.....Hurricanes are going to be hitting the CONUS soon I'm afraid, and going to hit with a vengeance.
Quoting Minnemike:
i can attest to the Mpls part in that! with a small dusting yesterday, we went from nothing to nothing. Strong cold winds grew ice on my beard this morning, which is fine with me as long as there is snow and some indicators it should be winter... brown and frigid is just plain nasty :(
Funny you should mention Minneapolis. From the NWS twin Cities website:

Below Zero This Winter?

With the the winter of 2011-2012 off to a very mild start, will we see any days dropping below zero across the area? The likelihood of witnessing a below zero temperature across southern Minnesota and west central Wisconsin during any given winter is very good indeed. There has NEVER been a winter where temperatures at reporting location across the Twin Cities forecast area failed to drop below zero. Will this winter be the first?

In the Twin CIties, the least number of below zero days was 2 back in the winter of 2001-2002. January 18th is the latest date during the winter season that the Twin Cities has experienced its first below zero temperature (back in 1889).


Looking at the extended forecast, the coldest night in the next week and a half will be tonight. Both NWS and Wunderground are calling for a low of 4; Intellicast says 8. And, of course, Minneapolis has seen subzero temps all the way through March (it's never been below zero there in April), so there's lots of time left; one good, deep lobe of Arctic air would put to rest all such talk. But it'll be interesting to see anyway...
it's bleak.. been wondering the same thing, watching each little nub of deep cold get sheared away by the jet stream config. unless something major changes in the prevailing patterns, this could be the first recorded zero-subzero year for us.
Massive 1048mb ridge coming down from Yukon with bitter cold air, but the jet stream gets shoved eastward taking the cold with it, so it doesn't come south into the plains and GOM, but if jet stream were to change, we'd be getting some bitter cold down in the south if models changed
goooood morning!
Quoting WxGeekVA:
06Z DGEX PSU E-Wall

This mornings 06Z DGEX has some harsh cold for he southeast late next week, with sub-30s in central Florida and low 20s for the remainder of the interior. I don't think it will get quite get cold but it could be around freezing in FL at this time.


Just one slight problem..Its the DGEX
Buoy east of Corpus Christi in Gulf



Wind:
Max Wind Speed 50 mph
Max Gust Speed 59 mph


Link
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Not to throw water on a flaming headline, but the the normal background of cesium-137 is practically zero. Cesium 137 is a man-made element produced as a by-product of nuclear fission. The only reason there is any cesium-137 in the natural environment is due to nuclear testing (or locally due to nuclear accidents).

The example I like to use is taking 1 gram piece of platinum and bury it in your backyard. Now unless your lucky and happen to have platinum in your backyard, burying that platinum just increased the amount in your backyard by several million percent. While true, it's a completely meaningless metric.

Sensationalizing just obfuscates the important facts.


You can call me paranoid, if you wish but, I would rather think I am being cautious. Should I have a choice, I would much rather find a gram of platinum, in my backyard, as opposed to a gram of cesium-137. But, that is just me. I consider anything found in the environment that is not normally found there is a pretty good indication that something is amiss. This is not always bad but, it certainly does not mean it is good.

Cesium
202. wxmod
Doctors,
It may not be flu you are treating. Here's a satellite of global pollution. Don't you think the people north of the white line feel worse than the people south?

Quoting wxmod:
Doctors,
It may not be flu you are treating. Here's a satellite of global pollution. Don't you think the people north of the white line feel worse than the people south?



Uhhh, those images are mosaics, and taken on different days, so they mosaic and stitch if you will them together and line them up....therefore having a line that has one clear day and the other a hazy, polluted day
204. wxmod


Quoting RitaEvac:


Uhhh, those images are mosaics, and taken on different days, so they mosaic and stitch if you will them together and line them up....therefore having a line that has one clear day and the other a hazy, polluted day


Not true.
The mosaic runs north south and just a few minutes apart.
Quoting RitaEvac:


Uhhh, those images are mosaics, and taken on different days, so they mosaic and stitch if you will them together and line them up....therefore having a line that has one clear day and the other a hazy, polluted day

No; that's a MODIS image of pollution over the Oregon coast that's definitely not from a multi-pass mosaic. The site from which it was linked has many satellite photo examples of pollution in the Pacific Northwest.
I stand corrected....that's if you believe everything you're told....
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Not to throw water on a flaming headline, but the the normal background of cesium-137 is practically zero. Cesium 137 is a man-made element produced as a by-product of nuclear fission. The only reason there is any cesium-137 in the natural environment is due to nuclear testing (or locally due to nuclear accidents).

The example I like to use is taking 1 gram piece of platinum and bury it in your backyard. Now unless your lucky and happen to have platinum in your backyard, burying that platinum just increased the amount in your backyard by several million percent. While true, it's a completely meaningless metric.

Sensationalizing just obfuscates the important facts.


How do people come in contact with cesium-137?

Everyone is exposed to very small amounts of cesium-137 in soil and water as a result of atmospheric fallout. In the Northern Hemisphere, the average annual dose from exposure to cesium-137 associated with atmospheric fallout is less than 1 mrem; this dose continues to diminish every year as cesium-137 decays.

People may also be exposed from contaminated sites:

Walking on cesium-137 contaminated soil could result in external exposure to gamma radiation. Leaving the contaminated area would prevent additional exposure.
Coming in contact with waste materials at contaminated sites could also result in external exposure to gamma radiation. Leaving the area would also end the exposure.
If cesium-137 contaminated soil becomes air-borne as dust, breathing the dust would result in internal exposure. Because the radiation emitting material is then in the body, leaving the site would not end the exposure.
Drinking cesium-137 contaminated water, would also place the cesium-137 inside the body, where it would expose living tissue to gamma and beta radiation.

People may also unknowingly handle a strong industrial source of cesium-137. For example, certain moisture gauges contain cesium-137 sources.

How does cesium-137 get into the body?

People may ingest cesium-137 with food and water, or may inhale it as dust. If cesium-137 enters the body, it is distributed fairly uniformly throughout the body's soft tissues, resulting in exposure of those tissues. Slightly higher concentrations of the metal are found in muscle, while slightly lower concentrations are found in bone and fat. Compared to some other radionuclides, cesium-137 remains in the body for a relatively short time. It is eliminated through the urine. Exposure to cesium-137 may also be external (that is, exposure to its gamma radiation from outside the body).


Health Effects of Cesium-137 How can cesium-137 affect people's health?

Like all radionuclides, exposure to radiation from cesium-137 results in increased risk of cancer. Everyone is exposed to very small amounts of cesium-137 in soil and water as a result of atmospheric fallout. Exposure to waste materials, from contaminated sites, or from nuclear accidents can result in cancer risks much higher than typical environmental exposures.

If exposures are very high, serious burns, and even death, can result. Instances of such exposure are very rare. One example of a high-exposure situation would be the mishandling a strong industrial cesium-137 source. The magnitude of the health risk depends on exposure conditions. These include such factors as strength of the source, length of exposure, distance from the source, and whether there was shielding between you and the source (such as metal plating).
Quoting RitaEvac:
I stand corrected....that's if you believe everything you're told....

I don't. But I do tend to give greater weight to things that have been repeatedly documented, tirelessly dissected, thoroughly analyzed, and painstakingly summarized. Know what I mean? ;-)
209. wxmod
Quoting RitaEvac:
I stand corrected....that's if you believe everything you're told....

Here's a wider image with site details.
Rain is turning into frozen pellets here in Mid TN.. wish the ground was cold enough to accumulate the snowfall expected tonight...
Where is NW US pollution coming from.. Asia? I find it hard to believe that even the smoggiest of days in Beijing would produce the particulate density shown in the photo. I would be apt to attribute much of this to wildfires... imo
211. odub
The precipitation map is quite interesting, but I'm curious as to what the blogs feelings are relative to using a calendar year to represent precipitation in Mediterranean climates. For instance, during California's normal rainy season for 2010-2011, rain totals for much of the state were significantly above normal as was snow accumulation. This precipitation cycle (2011-2012) finds that we are significantly below normal but have half the rainy period left.

In you mind, is that a difference in how our precipitation should be interpreted?

Don
212. wxmod
Quoting JNCali:
Rain is turning into frozen pellets here in Mid TN.. wish the ground was cold enough to accumulate the snowfall expected tonight...
Where is NW US pollution coming from.. Asia? I find it hard to believe that even the smoggiest of days in Beijing would produce the particulate density shown in the photo. I would be apt to attribute much of this to wildfires... imo


Pollution can easily come from Asia or from around the world. This pollution was caused by a jet or rocket. You can see that it is an expanded jet or rocket trail because it is only slightly distorted by wind currents. The trail is over a hundred miles wide. If you look at MODIS satellite photos, you will see man made weather and pollution often.
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


You can call me paranoid, if you wish but, I would rather think I am being cautious. Should I have a choice, I would much rather find a gram of platinum, in my backyard, as opposed to a gram of cesium-137. But, that is just me. I consider anything found in the environment that is not normally found there is a pretty good indication that something is amiss. This is not always bad but, it certainly does not mean it is good.

Cesium


I don't believe anyone would argue that finding a gram of cesium-137 in your backyard isn't a bad thing. That wasn't my point.

My point was that saying something is "millions percent higher" or "millions percent more" is sensationalistic nonsense and conveys no useful information without appropriate context.

From the article, the claim was "millions of times higher than before the accident". That sounds "scary". But what the article doesn't point out is that a "millions of times higher before the accident" still means that you'd be measuring the amount in nanograms (billionths of a gram). Before the accident, the normal cesium-137 background was 1.5 Becq (by comparison, the average human produces 4400 Becq from natural mineral intake). Thus ANY release is going to amount to millions of times more, no matter how small.

To put the radioactivity of the release in perspective, 1 gram of cesium-137 produces 3.2b Tbecq, and the accident (according to the article) released 68 Mbecq per cubic meter. So there is approximately 0.00002 grams per cubic meter at the peak release of materials. The article doesn't give a figure of how many cubic meters were released, but suffice it to say we're not talking about metric tons here.

The best figure I've found for a lethal does is 44 micrograms/kg, or about .33 grams for the average human. So to get a lethal dose at the peak release rate, one would need to drink about 16,500 cubic meters of the contaminated water. Of course, contamination can build over time but you would have to work pretty hard at it and deliberately eat/drink from contaminated sources.

Granted, none of this is to say that this isn't a problem. But it is much better to look at a problem from a sound perspective than one based on "Millions of times more! OH NOOOOOZZZZEE!!!!!11!!!11!!".
Quoting Xyrus2000:


I don't believe anyone would argue that finding a gram of cesium-137 in your backyard isn't a bad thing. That wasn't my point.

My point was that saying something is "millions percent higher" or "millions percent more" is sensationalistic nonsense and conveys no useful information without appropriate context.

From the article, the claim was "millions of times higher than before the accident". That sounds "scary". But what the article doesn't point out is that a "millions of times higher before the accident" still means that you'd be measuring the amount in nanograms (billionths of a gram). Before the accident, the normal cesium-137 background was 1.5 Becq (by comparison, the average human produces 4400 Becq from natural mineral intake). Thus ANY release is going to amount to millions of times more, no matter how small.

To put the radioactivity of the release in perspective, 1 gram of cesium-137 produces 3.2b Tbecq, and the accident (according to the article) released 68 Mbecq per cubic meter. So there is approximately 0.00002 grams per cubic meter at the peak release of materials. The article doesn't give a figure of how many cubic meters were released, but suffice it to say we're not talking about metric tons here.

The best figure I've found for a lethal does is 44 micrograms/kg, or about .33 grams for the average human. So to get a lethal dose at the peak release rate, one would need to drink about 16,500 cubic meters of the contaminated water. Of course, contamination can build over time but you would have to work pretty hard at it and deliberately eat/drink from contaminated sources.

Granted, none of this is to say that this isn't a problem. But it is much better to look at a problem from a sound perspective than one based on "Millions of times more! OH NOOOOOZZZZEE!!!!!11!!!11!!".


Thank you for further information concerning this. I agree that you were just putting things into perspective. My primary concern was that the article had a comment that stated either the leaks are still occurring, at the reactor site, or the groundwater is contaminated and leaching back into the sea. Any leaks from the reactors can still be stopped. Any contamination from the groundwater, not so much. Groundwater contamination was my primary concern. Still, the groundwater may not be contaminated. What is done if it is?
Ran across these beautiful webcam images from Yosemite, then noticed something strange. Something missing, you know? This first picture is looking southeast from Sentinel Dome; the camera is at 8100 feet or so, and some of those barren background peaks top 10,000 feet. Two miles high...mid-January...yet almost completely devoid of snow:

Uh-oh

And this second is from Ahwahnee Meadow, a spot a few thousand feet lower:

Uh-oh
Quoting odub:
The precipitation map is quite interesting, but I'm curious as to what the blogs feelings are relative to using a calendar year to represent precipitation in Mediterranean climates. For instance, during California's normal rainy season for 2010-2011, rain totals for much of the state were significantly above normal as was snow accumulation. This precipitation cycle (2011-2012) finds that we are significantly below normal but have half the rainy period left.

In you mind, is that a difference in how our precipitation should be interpreted?

Don

You make an interesting point here, if I understand that you are suggesting that the rainfall year is not the same as the calender year? Just confirming.
Myself and lots of people that I work with and for in the Western Mediterranean area normally use a type of calender that starts about the beginning of May, which is the end of the normal rainy season and goes to the following end of April. Hence in one of these "years" we only had about 8 days of rain.
This year so far since April 2011, we might have only had about 4 days of rain so far in my area which is way down on normal.We do have of course over 3 months still to run.
If I used the calender year for last year we would have had maybe 40 days of rain from January 1, up to 31 December.
Many people prefer the May to end of April system as it more truly represents the growing season.
Interesting:-215. Neapolitan,

Last week I flew south down the Western side of the "Spanish Sierra Nevada" mountain range passing over Granada.
It was jut after dawn and with the sun badly in my eyes I was looking at the mountains which rise to over 10,000 feet. I cant be 100% certain due to the time of day and the sun direction but I am more or less sure there was hardly any snow on the mountains, the peaks appearing dark grey rather than white.
At this time of year the Sierra Nevada are normally covered in snow. A neighbour of mine assures me that I am mistaken and there is a lot of snow on the mountains. He also assures me that climate change is a delusion of madmen!
Another image from last September. This iamge was taken from on top of the dome.

Photos of Sentinel Dome (Loyemah Dome), Yosemite National Park
This photo of Sentinel Dome (Loyemah Dome) is courtesy of TripAdvisor"

The following link to to a NetCam that was used to make a series of images of the dome from May - June 2005. I do not know if this was an exceptional snow year for the dome.

Yosimite: Flooding May 2005

For those of you looking for a global disaster/alert map
Link
Quoting Neapolitan:
Ran across these beautiful webcam images from Yosemite, then noticed something strange. Something missing, you know? This first picture is looking southeast from Sentinel Dome; the camera is at 8100 feet or so, and some of those barren background peaks top 10,000 feet. Two miles high...mid-January...yet almost completely devoid of snow:

Uh-oh

And this second is from Ahwahnee Meadow, a spot a few thousand feet lower:

Uh-oh


Weeeee Don't Neeeed Noooo.....Educationnnnn


Weeee Don't Neeeeed Noooo....Snoooowww Abovvvve
Quoting JTDailyUpdate:
For those of you looking for a global disaster/alert map
Link


Oh, you scared me. I thought it was going to be a link to my backyard. ;-)
Quoting JTDailyUpdate:
For those of you looking for a global disaster/alert map
Link


Is it a Chuck Norris tracker? Because those don't work! ;-)
what a nice day today...mid 50's and sunny with a few cumulus rolling around!
any1 here getting som good snow? that low sure is dropping alot
Quoting SPLbeater:
any1 here getting som good snow? that low sure is dropping alot


We've gotten about 2 inches here in the Decatur, Champaign Illinois area. It's been pretty tame for the most part. Windy though, visibility has been less than a quarter mile when it has been snowing. Places points north from here have recieved double what we have had as they are in the more favorable area for accumulations.
Yesterday's North Carolina tornado a confirmed EF2:

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC
222 PM EST THU JAN 12 2012

...TORNADO CONFIRMED NEAR ELLENBORO IN RUTHERFORD COUNTY NORTH
CAROLINA...

LOCATION...NEAR ELLENBORO IN RUTHERFORD COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA
DATE...JANUARY 11 2012
MAXIMUM EF-SCALE RATING...EF2
ESTIMATED MAXIMUM WIND SPEED...115 MPH


* THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO
CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENT(S) AND PUBLICATION IN
NWS STORM DATA.

...SUMMARY...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC HAS
CONFIRMED THE STORM DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED NEAR ELLENBORO NORTH
CAROLINA ON WEDNESDAY...JANUARY 11 WAS THE RESULT OF AN EF2
TORNADO...WITH MAXIMUM WIND SPEEDS ESTIMATED AT AROUND 115 MPH.
FURTHER DETAILS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE LATE THIS AFTERNOON OR
EARLY THIS EVENING.

- - - - - - - - - -

In addition, three Monday Houston-area tornadoes have been confirmed: an EF1 and two EF0s.
213 Xyrus2000 "The best figure I've found for a lethal dose is 44 micrograms/kg, or about .33 grams for the average human."

44micrograms/kilogram is 4400micrograms/100kilograms is 4.4milligrams per 100kilograms. For a human weighing 75kilograms(~165pounds), 3.3milligrams or 0.0033grams would be the lethal dose.
Quoting ILwthrfan:


We've gotten about 2 inches here in the Decatur, Champaign Illinois area. It's been pretty tame for the most part. Windy though, visibility has been less than a quarter mile when it has been snowing. Places points north from here have recieved double what we have had as they are in the more favorable area for accumulations.


nice. i only want snow for the puppy, and i want to smack one on my dad lol.

i been watchin the storms fire in georgia, and the 500mb analysis shows some divergence in my area, so keepin a eye on that. (maybe over reacting, but who cares lol)
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Advice #33
TROPICAL LOW, FORMER HEIDI (07U)
11:00 PM WST January 12 2012
=========================

At 11:00 PM WST, Tropical Low, Former Heidi (996 hPa) located at 22.6S 118.2E or 45 km east northeast of Tom Price and 85 km northeast of Paraburdoo has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The low is reported as moving south at 7 knots.

Ex-Tropical Cyclone Heidi lies over the southern inland Pilbara and continues to move south. Although no longer a tropical cyclone, there is still a risk of HEAVY RAINFALL conducive to FLASH FLOODING and DAMAGING WINDS to 90 km/h near the center of ex-Tropical Cyclone Heidi as it tracks through the southern Pilbara and into the northeast Gascoyne during Friday morning. Refer to Severe Weather Warning [IDW28001] for details.

Flood Warnings also remain current for the Ashburton and De Grey River Catchments and for the Pilbara Coastal Streams between Port Hedland and Karratha.

Tropical Cyclone Watches/Warnings
================================

The Cyclone WARNING for inland areas of the central Pilbara to the northeast of Tom Price has been cancelled.

No further advices will be issued for this system.
Holy crap! It's snowing!

It's snowing really hard and the flakes are HUGE! Already almost an inch in less then an hour.
Quoting Ameister12:
Holy crap! It's snowing!

It's snowing really hard and the flakes are HUGE! Already almost an inch in less than an hour.
Where are you.?
So I've got a mystery I hope someone can solve....

(I've observed this for years because I live for summer rainy season along the Gulf, and because I get the winter blues.)

When we have the Summer Solstice, sunrise is at its earliest and sunset is at its latest; and then within a day or two after Summer Solstice, sunrise time starts to get later, and sunset time starts to get earlier.

So why is it that according to all the official sunrise/sunset tables I have ever seen, including the current Weather Channel daily tables, we go from Winter Solstice to about January 8th before the days begin to officially lengthen by so much as a single minute? Sunrise - according to the tables - continues to be later and later every day, AFTER we've passed Winter Solstice, until some point after the first week of January. In fact even today, Cape Coral's sunrise is supposedly 7:17, for the third day in a row. I'm still waiting for sunrise to officially start occurring earlier.

It doesn't take quite as long for the evenings to officially grow longer; here in the Cape, we've already gone from official sunset time of 5:49, I believe, to 5:51 or 5:52. And every year that I watch the S/S tables, they always show evening lengthening before they show sunrise coming earlier.

Anyone know the answer to this...???
Quoting hydrus:
Where are you.?

Landen, Ohio. NE of Cincinnati.
Found this article today...big brother at it again.

"Homeland Security watches Twitter, social media"

This is what I find interesting:

"blogs that cover drug trafficking and cybercrime; and websites that follow wildfires in Los Angeles and hurricanes."

Is the WU community being watched?

Quoting OrchidGrower:
So I've got a mystery I hope someone can solve....

(I've observed this for years because I live for summer rainy season along the Gulf, and because I get the winter blues.)

When we have the Summer Solstice, sunrise is at its earliest and sunset is at its latest; and then within a day or two after Summer Solstice, sunrise time starts to get later, and sunset time starts to get earlier.

So why is it that according to all the official sunrise/sunset tables I have ever seen, including the current Weather Channel daily tables, we go from Winter Solstice to about January 8th before the days begin to officially lengthen by so much as a single minute? Sunrise - according to the tables - continues to be later and later every day, AFTER we've passed Winter Solstice, until some point after the first week of January. In fact even today, Cape Coral's sunrise is supposedly 7:17, for the third day in a row. I'm still waiting for sunrise to officially start occurring earlier.

It doesn't take quite as long for the evenings to officially grow longer; here in the Cape, we've already gone from official sunset time of 5:49, I believe, to 5:51 or 5:52. And every year that I watch the S/S tables, they always show evening lengthening before they show sunrise coming earlier.

Anyone know the answer to this...???
Because it is always darkest before the dawn!?!
Quoting KeysieLife:
Found this article today...big brother at it again.

"Homeland Security watches Twitter, social media"

This is what I find interesting:

"blogs that cover drug trafficking and cybercrime; and websites that follow wildfires in Los Angeles and hurricanes."

Is the WU community being watched?

KeysieLife, you know they are watching whatever they can. In fact the internet has made it easier for the govt. to spy on us. I bet if you put Atomic Bomb and USA together in a lot of e-mails, you will probably get a visit, if not disappear. LOL I guess I am next!
Quoting KeysieLife:
Found this article today...big brother at it again.

"Homeland Security watches Twitter, social media"

This is what I find interesting:

"blogs that cover drug trafficking and cybercrime; and websites that follow wildfires in Los Angeles and hurricanes."

Is the WU community being watched?



I have long suspected that there were some among us that are spies. I would give you their names but, they are probably using aliases. ;-)
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


I have long suspected that there were some among us that are spies. I would give you their names but, they are probably using aliases. ;-)


And drink Fresca! :)

It's snowing up north today!
Damage of last night's EF-2 tornado in western NC.

More images of last night's tornado.




Quoting OrchidGrower:
So I've got a mystery I hope someone can solve....

(I've observed this for years because I live for summer rainy season along the Gulf, and because I get the winter blues.)

When we have the Summer Solstice, sunrise is at its earliest and sunset is at its latest; and then within a day or two after Summer Solstice, sunrise time starts to get later, and sunset time starts to get earlier.

So why is it that according to all the official sunrise/sunset tables I have ever seen, including the current Weather Channel daily tables, we go from Winter Solstice to about January 8th before the days begin to officially lengthen by so much as a single minute? Sunrise - according to the tables - continues to be later and later every day, AFTER we've passed Winter Solstice, until some point after the first week of January. In fact even today, Cape Coral's sunrise is supposedly 7:17, for the third day in a row. I'm still waiting for sunrise to officially start occurring earlier.

It doesn't take quite as long for the evenings to officially grow longer; here in the Cape, we've already gone from official sunset time of 5:49, I believe, to 5:51 or 5:52. And every year that I watch the S/S tables, they always show evening lengthening before they show sunrise coming earlier.

Anyone know the answer to this...???



Solar Noon
Quoting kwgirl:
KeysieLife, you know they are watching whatever they can. In fact the internet has made it easier for the govt. to spy on us. I bet if you put Atomic Bomb and USA together in a lot of e-mails, you will probably get a visit, if not disappear. LOL I guess I am next!


you are not next unless you are a threat to the nation or country how ever ya look at it
they even have a bot program that scans the world wide web for certain key words then try to get a general mood on the masses or minnions and what to happen in the future however they look at it
Just went back and checked the model runs at 6Z, and the GFS has a blizzard in Georgia at hour 336. However, it disappeared at the 12Z but is interesting because it showed more cold air than the 0Z run.

Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


I have long suspected that there were some among us that are spies. I would give you their names but, they are probably using aliases. ;-)


this reminds me of when i used to play evony, worrying about spies in our alliances lol....

any spies readin this. GET-A-LIFE
Quoting SPLbeater:


this reminds me of when i used to play evony, worrying about spies in our alliances lol....

any spies readin this. GET-A-LIFE


OMG I USED TO PLAY EVONY!!!!!! WHAT SERVER DO /DID YOU PLAY!?!??!
232 OrchidGrower "So why is it that according to all the official sunrise/sunset tables I have ever seen...we go from Winter Solstice to about January 8th before the days begin to officially lengthen by so much as a single minute?
...And every year that I watch the S/S tables, they always show evening lengthening before they show sunrise coming earlier.
Anyone know the answer to this...???
"

Yep... but explaining it with just words is somethin' else.
Has to do with the fact that Earth's orbit is elliptical rather than circular. And that perihelion (Earth's closest approach to the Sun) is ~2weeks after the NorthernHemisphere's WinterSolstice.
Need to think about it for a while before attempting to write an explanation.
232 OrchidGrower "So why is it that according to all the official sunrise/sunset tables I have ever seen...we go from Winter Solstice to about January 8th before the days begin to officially lengthen by so much as a single minute?
...And every year that I watch the S/S tables, they always show evening lengthening before they show sunrise coming earlier.
Anyone know the answer to this...???"


Because man created a calendar that does not excactly fit natures time, there's more than meets the eye
mid week next week is next event
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
mid week next week is next event


Sir, I need to contact you, that is against protocol and has been flagged for investigation by the government...
Quoting RitaEvac:


Sir, I need to contact you, that is against protocol and has been flagged for investigation by the government...
this next round looks to miss ya rita it devs east of tex from west la ne ward moving ese late tus wed into thurs next week severe chances are possible tus night into wed
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
this next round looks to miss ya rita it devs east of tex from west la ne ward moving ese late tus wed into thurs next week severe chances are possible tus night into wed


Need rain
The year's first significant winter storm is underway across Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, etc.

Quoting RitaEvac:


Need rain
it may shift back towards you guys still 3 days worth of runs to see how it pans out if it does
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
it may shift back towards you guys still 3 days worth of runs to see how it pans out if it does


Return flow off Gulf would need to be mighty fast
A second Thursday EF2 tornado in North Carolina has been confirmed:


PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC
510 PM EST THU JAN 12 2012

...TORNADO CONFIRMED IN EASTERN BURKE COUNTY NORTH CAROLINA...

A NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SURVEY TEAM HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE STORM
DAMAGE WHICH OCCURRED IN EASTERN BURKE COUNTY WAS CAUSED BY AN EF-2
TORNADO...WITH 130 MPH WINDS. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE WAS
OBSERVED IN THE HILDEBRAN COMMUNITY NEAR INTERSTATE 40. A MORE
EXTENSIVE WRITE-UP ON THE LENGTH OF THE DAMAGE PATH AND OTHER
DETAILS OF THE SURVEY WILL BE ISSUED LATER THIS EVENING OR FRIDAY
MORNING.

- - - - - - - - - -

(Info on the first tornado here)

These are only the fourth and fifth tornadoes stronger than EF1/F1 to strike North Carolina in January since 1950.


lots of snow coming my way maybe unless it wanes out
Lots of clouds streaming over SE TX, may keep our lows higher than forecasted, think Saturday AM would be colder, first night after cold front isn't usually the coldest anyway, it's the 2nd night
Quoting RitaEvac:
I stand corrected....that's if you believe everything you're told....
That image is clearly not a mosaic. Just look at it.


Also, you shouldn't believe everything everyone tells you, however, that doesn't mean you should think everything everyone tells you is false. In other words, it is perfectly acceptable to question what you are told, but to flat out say it is false is simply wrong. It's really sad how little trust people have in the government. No, you do not know everything they do and they can lie or mislead the public, but that doesn't mean everything they do is false or a lie.
Quoting TomTaylor:
That image is clearly not a mosaic. Just look at it.


Also, you shouldn't believe everything everyone tells you, however, that doesn't mean you should think everything everyone tells you is false. In other words, it is perfectly acceptable to question what you are told, but to flat out say it is false is simply wrong. It's really sad how little trust people have in the government. No, you do not know everything they do and they can lie or mislead the public, but that doesn't mean everything they do is false or a lie.


I question questioning everything...
For those who have Stratfor.com accounts, they are back online after the hack attack with a great article..by George Friedman.

The Hack on Stratfor
January 11, 2012 | 1400 GMT


All content will be free for a time.

Does anybody know what time the Tuscaloosa tornado touched down and dissipated?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Does anybody know what time the Tuscaloosa tornado touched down and dissipated?

Down: 4:43 PM CDT
Lift: 6:14 PM CDT

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/bmx/?n=event_04272011tusc birm

(The supercell that spawned the tornado started in in Newton County, MS, at 2:54 PM, and finally dissipated in Macon County, NC, at approximately 10:18 pm CDT, for a total time of about 7 hours and 24 minutes.)
Quoting Neapolitan:

Down: 4:43 PM CDT
Lift: 6:14 PM CDT

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/bmx/?n=event_04272011tusc birm

Thanks.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The year's first significant winter storm is underway across Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, etc.



This was the first snowstorm in Wisconsin, months ago.
Touchdown of the Tuscaloosa, AL tornado:



Tornado moving through northern Tuscaloosa, AL:




Tornado's closest approach to Birmingham, AL:



Dissipation of the Tuscaloosa, AL tornado:



Don't worry about the banner in the top left of the corner...I've been doing some remodeling to the radar, including updating my reflectivity, velocity, VIL, etc color tables, and I decided a banner would be nice.

Note: All images are enlargeable, just click them.
#269 Over 10 inches of snow in places. That's pretty significant. Of course not what that place in Alaska has gotten, but I won't do Mr. Kimball from Green Acres. Save that for later.
man i wish i had a thunderstorm right now...i miss them lol
This was posted yesterday by the Associated Press:
Hummingbird a Rare Sight in Chicago Winter
"Congressional wildfire ‘office pool’ angers firefighters"

Link
Quoting bappit:
#269 Over 10 inches of snow in places. That's pretty significant. Of course not what that place in Alaska has gotten, but I won't do Mr. Kimball from Green Acres. Save that for later.


And one place in the snowbelt of Wisconsin is reporting 16" of snow since this morning, snowfall rates of 1.5" per hour.

The high terrain started out this morning with 20" already on the ground from earlier snows. That would mean that by tomorrow there could be four feet of snow on the ground up there.

Luckily, closer to the Lake Superior shoreline, I've only had 6" today. But the drive home was nightmare with horizontal snow.
Quoting SPLbeater:
man i wish i had a thunderstorm right now...i miss them lol

Some thundersnow going on in Ohio right now. Is that close enough? ;-)

Uh-oh
Only 139 days left until June 1rst!

Link
#275 Not familiar with that horizontal snow. Not sure Houston could handle that.
Texas goes from one extreme to another extreme in just a year.Lol...what a weird state.
its snowing in georgia. thats about 200 miles to my SW. whats wrong with this picture? lol

can definately tell where the cold air is with this front. 35F in Atlanta, GA....55 in Thomson, GA
Quoting bappit:
#275 Not familiar with that horizontal snow. Not sure Houston could handle that.
It is going horizontal here on the plateau...Glad the heats werkin too..:)...07:53 PM... Light Snow 26F..... windchill ,16F..... 66%.... W 17 ....G 29........ 29.90 in.
I wish it would snow here. But no...It has to be freaking 60 °F or higher for the winter.
Russian spacecraft to crash soon, risks unclear
Associated PressBy VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV | Associated Press - 10 hrs ago

MOSCOW (AP)-A Russian space probe designed to burnish the nation's faded space glory in a mission to one of Mars' moons has turned into one of the heaviest, most toxic pieces of space junk ever.

It will come crashing down to Earth in just a few days.

The Russian space agency Roscosmos' latest forecast has the unmanned Phobos-Ground probe falling out of Earth's orbit Sunday or Monday, with the median time placing it over the Indian Ocean just north of Madagascar. It said the precise time and place of its uncontrolled plunge can only be determined later, and unless someone actually spots fiery streaks in the sky, no one may ever know where any surviving pieces end up.

Space experts agree it's unlikely to pose big risks.

At 13.2 metric tons (14.6 tons), the Phobos-Ground is one of the largest spacecraft ever to plummet to Earth, considerably larger than the two defunct satellites that fell to Earth last fall and landed in the water.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I wish it would snow here. But no...It has to be freaking 60 F or higher for the winter.


i would trade the rest of winter for a summer full of exciting thunderstorms :D

oh and uh, dont be complaining bout the temp, cuz im at 54 right now xD. but the high for tomorrow is 44 with windspeeds from 14-21 mph sustained, so tomorrow be nice bike ridin weather for me
January 12, 2010

Two years ago today...the first blog post on January 12, 2010 that something horrible had happened...

156. Chucktown 5:08 PM EST on January 12, 2010

tsunami information statement number 1
nws west coast/alaska tsunami warning center palmer ak
603 pm ast tue jan 12 2010

...this tsunami information statement is for puerto rico/ the virgin islands/ the u.s. atlantic and gulf of mexico states/ and eastern canadian provinces...

no warning... no watch and no advisory is in effect for these areas.

evaluation
based on earthquake data and historic tsunami records the earthquake was not sufficient to generate a tsunami damaging to puerto rico/ the virgin islands/ the u.s. atlantic and gulf of mexico coasts/ and eastern canada.

however - earthquakes of this size sometimes generate tsunamis that can be destructive along coasts located in the region of the earthquake epicenter. authorities in the region should be aware of this possibility and take appropriate action.

preliminary earthquake parameters
magnitude - 7.3
time - 1653 est jan 12 2010
1753 ast jan 12 2010
2153 utc jan 12 2010
location - 18.5 north 72.5 west
- haiti region
depth - 21 miles/33 km

Dr. Masters would later post in the evening...

230. JeffMasters (Admin 7:18 PM EST on January 12, 2010

The shallow depth of the quake will mean tremendous force was felt in Port-Au-Prince. After making it through the hurricane season of 2009 without a scratch, now this for Haiti! At least they don't have to worry about hurricane season coming while they rebuild, but this will be very, very bad for Haiti. I heard this from my contact at the Lambi Fund of Haiti:

"Most buildings in Port-Au-Prince have been damaged or have collapsed, which would include homes of staff and families we work with, as well a the grain mills, sugar cane mills and sites for community economic development. And cisterns and latrines we have supported for safe drinking water and sanitation. Major rebuilding effort needed. Please post on your blog. There are rumors that presidential palace has major damage--it is designed like the White House--it is near the epicenter, so would not be surprising".

This quake may rival the hurricane season of 2008 for death and destruction, and may rank as one of the worst natural disasters in Haitian history. I'll blog more about this tomorrow, and include donation links for those wanting to help. Give your prayers to them tonight! Some history: Hurricane Flora killed over 8000 people in 1963, making it the 6th most deadly hurricane ever. An unnamed 1935 storm killed over 2000, and Hurricane Hazel killed over 1000 in 1954. As far as earthquakes go, the May 7, 1842 the magnitude 7.7 Cap-Hatien earthquake shook whole island, killing 10,000, and generated a tsunami that killed 300 people on the island. The quake wrecked the towns of P-a-Paix, Mole St. Nicola, O Kap, and Fort Liberte. One of the largest cities in Haiti--Cap-Hatien, with a population of 60,000--was destroyed, with the loss of 6,000 lives.
Costa Rica's misterious sounds.... still unexplained
Link
Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - By Rod Hughes
Authorities say the boom was not a volcanic eruption or a supersonic aircraft.

Monday morning started off with a bang for residents of the Central Valley when a loud, as yet unidentified, series of booms rattled windows about 30 minutes after midnight. Many did not hear it, but enough people did to cause a firestorm of comment on social media such as Facebook and Twitter.

The strange sound was prolonged – many described it as lasting for five minutes or so. Perhaps the only one making no comments were scientists and government authorities, who were reticent about commenting or speculating. A few things it wasn’t: Volcanologists discounted a volcanic eruption; nor was it a supersonic aircraft, because the powerful radar at Juan Santamaría International Airport outside of San José picked up no planes at the time, not even subsonic ones.

Also, there were no climatological phenomena or strange weather conditions. By nightfall Monday, the speculation was still going along briskly with the major vote going to fireworks at the festival at Zapote, in San José. But many said it sounded like no fireworks they had ever heard. Mario Sánchez, spokesman for the National Meteorological Institute, discounted a storm because the only thing that would sound like the noise described would be a storm accompanied by lightning – and early Monday morning was clear with a full moon.

The sound reverberated in Coronado, Heredia, Desamparados, Escazú, Cartago, San Ramón, Turrialba and as far south as Pérez Zeledón near the Panama border.
Quoting sunlinepr:
Costa Rica's misterious sounds.... still unexplained
Link
Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - By Rod Hughes
Authorities say the boom was not a volcanic eruption or a supersonic aircraft.

Monday morning started off with a bang for residents of the Central Valley when a loud, as yet unidentified, series of booms rattled windows about 30 minutes after midnight. Many did not hear it, but enough people did to cause a firestorm of comment on social media such as Facebook and Twitter.

The strange sound was prolonged %u2013 many described it as lasting for five minutes or so. Perhaps the only one making no comments were scientists and government authorities, who were reticent about commenting or speculating. A few things it wasn%u2019t: Volcanologists discounted a volcanic eruption; nor was it a supersonic aircraft, because the powerful radar at Juan Santamara International Airport outside of San Jos picked up no planes at the time, not even subsonic ones.

Also, there were no climatological phenomena or strange weather conditions. By nightfall Monday, the speculation was still going along briskly with the major vote going to fireworks at the festival at Zapote, in San Jos. But many said it sounded like no fireworks they had ever heard. Mario Snchez, spokesman for the National Meteorological Institute, discounted a storm because the only thing that would sound like the noise described would be a storm accompanied by lightning %u2013 and early Monday morning was clear with a full moon.

The sound reverberated in Coronado, Heredia, Desamparados, Escaz, Cartago, San Ramn, Turrialba and as far south as Prez Zeledn near the Panama border.


maybe some1 is sitting on top of a mountain beating some sick SPL!! :D
Invation of privacy??

India launches nationwide program for new cashless biometeric system
Posted on January 13, 2012
January 13, 2012 INDIA Recently, India has launched a nationwide program involving the allocation of a Unique Identification Number (UID) to every single one of its 1.2 billion residents. Each of the numbers will be tied to the biometric data of the recipient using three different forms of information fingerprints, iris scans, and pictures of the face. All ten digits of the hand will be recorded, and both eyes will be scanned. The project will be directed by the Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI) under the premise of preventing identity theft and social welfare fraud.

Orleans

Freeze Warning

Statement as of 12:09 PM CST on January 12, 2012

... Freeze warning remains in effect from midnight tonight to 8 am
CST Friday...

* event... low temperatures ranging from 27 to 31 degrees near
the Mississippi River... the West Bank of the New Orleans Metro
area... the river parishes... and the Houma and Thibodaux
areas. Low temperatures 32 to 35 degrees on the East Bank of
Metro New Orleans.

* Timing... between midnight and 8 am CST Friday morning. The
duration of sub-freezing temperatures will range from 3 to 7
hours... except 2 hours or less on the East Bank of Metro New
Orleans.

* Impact... people... plants and pets outdoors will be subjected
to the cold temperatures.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A freeze warning means sub-freezing temperatures are imminent or
highly likely. These conditions will kill crops and other
sensitive vegetation.
My friend in Stuttgart has just this week put his snow tires on his car, saying it has not been really like winter through December but expects maybe snow will come after the first of the year, later than usual.
geez, im bored. and i dont feel like going to bed.
294. BtnTx
Quoting SPLbeater:


maybe some1 is sitting on top of a mountain beating some sick SPL!! :D
Excuse my ignorance, what is a SPL ?
Quoting SPLbeater:
geez, im bored. and i dont feel like going to bed.


Here you go:

Led Zepplin - Kashmir
CME off the Eastern Limb (Thursday) - STEREO Behind COR2




www.solarham.com
.."I will return again,

..sure as the Dust, that Blows High in June, when moving thru Kashmir"..
298. wxmod
Today in the pacific NW
Quoting BtnTx:
Excuse my ignorance, what is a SPL ?


Sound
Pressure
Level.

bass system. such as my avatar which is an SMD 18" subwoofer. they hit extrememly low sound notes like 20Hz. get that loud enough and you might be choked :D

one of my life goals is to install 4 15" subwoofers in my vehicle. connected to 20k watts.
another bass/SPL example...ever been doin somethin at your house and heard a car gin down the road with a low rumbling sound? thats bass. most only got 1 12" subwoofer...they are wannabe's lol
here is one of the songs i listen to with bass in it. i am a BASSHEAD lol.

Snoop Dogg ft. T-Pain -Boom(Bass Boosted
Link

i hope you have some kind of headphones or earbuds that can handle loud bass...computer speakers WILL NOT WORK. and if u never heard bass, its the low rumble in the background xD
well, night all. time for a movie then time fer bed :D
ok back for a sec. THROUGH MY EARBUDS..i coud hear the wind howling outside, not a storm in sight!
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Here you go:

Led Zepplin - Kashmir
led zeppelin! Hell yea, favorite rock band of all time. They rock
sounds like a jet engine...0.o

1000mb analysis shows gale force windbarbs over my area
the pine trees are bending like crazy...this was daylight i would have had my camera rolling
Metalachi Covers Led Zeppelin...

They sound decent around 3:35 but it is painful getting there.
I wonder why all my animations have quit working
Colder than a Witches T####

Cold enough to freeze the Ba### of a brass monkey.

Wind blowing through you.

Drifting snow.

High Temp only 20F

Winter is here in Indiana
Quoting trunkmonkey:
Colder than a Witches T####

Cold enough to freeze the Ba### of a brass monkey.

Wind blowing through you.

Drifting snow.

High Temp only 20F

Winter is here in Indiana
it was 73 and sunny yesterday e cen fl. watched disc. channel for awhile about the homesteaders in alaska they are getting it this winter it seems good luck to them as for the noise in costa rica it was those fireworks they sell on the side of the roads fireworks as big as pipebombs and they are loud
Quoting SPLbeater:
the pine trees are bending like crazy...this was daylight i would have had my camera rolling


SPL you said that you used to play Evony yesterday afternoon. What server(s) did you play on and what was your lord name? I used to play Evony too. I was on server na20, na32, and na35, with my lord name either SlimShady or Emin3m on all of them.
Really windy here, and kinda cold. Temperatures are in the mid-30s, but the wind chills make it feel like the lower-20s. Thousands of people are without power in Wilmington because of downed lines.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


SPL you said that you used to play Evony yesterday afternoon. What server(s) did you play on and what was your lord name? I used to play Evony too. I was on server na20, na32, and na35, with my lord name either SlimShady or Emin3m on all of them.


my name was Bigdude on server na31
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Really windy here, and kinda cold. Temperatures are in the mid-30s, but the wind chills make it feel like the lower-20s. Thousands of people are without power in Wilmington because of downed lines.


got up this morning and there is trash that has blown all over the place, our recycle bin is near our neighbrs house, numerous green pine limbs are down. got power tho :D
Gonna be really cold and windy around these parts.I'm ready for the wind :).It'll be like having a mini tropical storm but with cold air.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Gonna be really cold and windy around these parts.I'm ready for the wind :).It'll be like having a mini tropical storm but with cold air.
cooler here today,55 right now going down to 40 tonight they say, lil windy too
Cold just got colder when I came across this bit of info... India is requiring every citizen in the country to have a biometric based identification number. Link It will be initially used to utilize government services but is planned for banking and financial transactions thus doing away with any form of cash... The reason is rampant fraud in the country.. This has so many advantages over a cash system but also a few disadvantages... Real time tracking of everyone, their locations, spending habits (a marketers dream!) Ron Paul would vote against this probably.. No more ATM machines and no more disease being spread by contaminated dollar bills.. I know folks who would welcome this with open arms.. I also know some who would go buy more ammo and freeze dried food for their cabin in a remote undisclosed location..
Quoting JNCali:
Cold just got colder when I came across this bit of info... India is requiring every citizen in the country to have a biometric based identification number. Link It will be initially used to utilize government services but is planned for banking and financial transactions thus doing away with any form of cash... The reason is rampant fraud in the country.. This has so many advantages over a cash system but also a few disadvantages... Real time tracking of everyone, their locations, spending habits (a marketers dream!) Ron Paul would vote against this probably.. No more ATM machines and no more disease being spread by contaminated dollar bills.. I know folks who would welcome this with open arms.. I also know some who would go buy more ammo and freeze dried food for their cabin in a remote undisclosed location..


This sounds awesome, why would "cold get colder" when you read this? It will lead to biotech implants that will allow you to use your fingerprints as a credit card, identification, and even communication tools! Sounds really cool!
Quoting JNCali:
Cold just got colder when I came across this bit of info... India is requiring every citizen in the country to have a biometric based identification number. Link It will be initially used to utilize government services but is planned for banking and financial transactions thus doing away with any form of cash... The reason is rampant fraud in the country.. This has so many advantages over a cash system but also a few disadvantages... Real time tracking of everyone, their locations, spending habits (a marketers dream!) Ron Paul would vote against this probably.. No more ATM machines and no more disease being spread by contaminated dollar bills.. I know folks who would welcome this with open arms.. I also know some who would go buy more ammo and freeze dried food for their cabin in a remote undisclosed location..


When they implement this (or try to) in this country, they will sell it to the public by hyping how "limited" in scope it will be. But then a little at a time, they will use it for more and more things. Goodbye to what little privacy we have left.
Read the history of Social Security and see how limited that was originally and see how it has been changed through the years. Resistance is futile,,,,,
Mark of the Beast has arrived
Found this interesting graph showing record temps across the United States so far this month. The little blue bump on the 4th is when Florida had those few dozen records.

Uh-oh

So far this month, more than 60 stations have tied, or set a new record for, their warmest January temperature ever recorded. Among those stations: Bakersfield, CA; Manhattan, KS; Alexandria, LA; Duluth, MN; Libby, MT; Fargo, Minot, and Williston, ND; Pendleton, OR; and both Aberdeen and Mitchell, SD. (No monthly low temperature records have yet been set or tied.)
Quoting JNCali:
Cold just got colder when I came across this bit of info... India is requiring every citizen in the country to have a biometric based identification number. Link It will be initially used to utilize government services but is planned for banking and financial transactions thus doing away with any form of cash... The reason is rampant fraud in the country.. This has so many advantages over a cash system but also a few disadvantages... Real time tracking of everyone, their locations, spending habits (a marketers dream!) Ron Paul would vote against this probably.. No more ATM machines and no more disease being spread by contaminated dollar bills.. I know folks who would welcome this with open arms.. I also know some who would go buy more ammo and freeze dried food for their cabin in a remote undisclosed location..


I'm already there with the second option, the stated reason of rampant fraud probably does have some merit , but I'm sure the primary motivation behind it is total control. Mahatma Gandhi began the Satyagraha movement in South Africa after all Indians were being forced to undergo fingerprinting and carry an identification card, Gandhi urging them to disobey, what would he think of mandatory chipping of human beings, being treated like chattle?


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Quoting RitaEvac:
Mark of the Beast has arrived


This has nothing to do with 666.... It merely is the progression of technology and this has been inevitable since the creation of credit cards and driver liscences.
Quoting RitaEvac:
Mark of the Beast has arrived

Yeah, people have said the same thing about UPC symbols. Cell phones. ATMs. Credit cards. Social Security numbers. Telephones. The telegraph. Steam engines... It's no different than Native Americans being initially afraid of cameras because they thought they could steal a person's soul, or Pacific Islanders keeling over with fright after seeing flame-producing cigarette lighters for the first time; any newer technology is going to frighten those easily frightened and cause them to cling to silly superstition. No, hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia has been alive and well for nearly 2,000 years--and yet here we all are. Imagine that... ;-)
Quoting Neapolitan:

Yeah, people have said the same thing about UPC symbols. Cell phones. ATMs. Credit cards. Social Security numbers. Telephones. The telegraph. Steam engines... It's no different than Native Americans being initially afraid of cameras because they thought they could steal a person's soul, or Pacific Islanders keeling over with fright after seeing flame-producing cigarette lighters for the first time; any newer technology is going to frighten those easily frightened and cause them to cling to silly superstition. No, hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia has been alive and well for nearly 2,000 years--and yet here we all are. Imagine that... ;-)



I like technology, but before you go talking about natives and superstition, just because its technology and it sounds good doesn't mean it should happen. Wisdom and knowledge are not the same thing, and knowledge without wisdom is stupid.

Quoting Neapolitan:

Yeah, people have said the same thing about UPC symbols. Cell phones. ATMs. Credit cards. Social Security numbers. Telephones. The telegraph. Steam engines... It's no different than Native Americans being initially afraid of cameras because they thought they could steal a person's soul, or Pacific Islanders keeling over with fright after seeing flame-producing cigarette lighters for the first time; any newer technology is going to frighten those easily frightened and cause them to cling to silly superstition. No, hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia has been alive and well for nearly 2,000 years--and yet here we all are. Imagine that... ;-)
Technology is great... it just the people who are in charge of it that can be a problem... every solution has consequences.. or side effects some obvious, others not so much.. we all take a risk when we pop a pill, but can we truly know all the risk?
Quoting Jedkins01:



I like technology, but before you go talking about natives and superstition, just because its technology and it sounds good doesn't mean it should happen. Wisdom and knowledge are not the same thing, and knowledge without wisdom is stupid.


I never claimed that we should latch onto all technology without worrying about any possible downside(s). But there's a huge gap between questioning a technology, and dismissing it outright--or even demonizing it, as here--because of superstition, fear, and lack of understanding. That's all I meant.
Quoting Neapolitan:

I never claimed that we should latch onto all technology without worrying about any possible downside(s). But there's a huge gap between questioning a technology, and dismissing it outright--or even demonizing it, as here--because of superstition, fear, and lack of understanding. That's all I meant.
i can see both sides as you present it, but i personally would not want to be 'chipped' due to some pretty solid reasons based in my morality, and social ethic. it's duly unnecessary sans population control, and ought not be 'sold' as anything other than that. imho
Quoting Neapolitan:

Yeah, people have said the same thing about UPC symbols. Cell phones. ATMs. Credit cards. Social Security numbers. Telephones. The telegraph. Steam engines... It's no different than Native Americans being initially afraid of cameras because they thought they could steal a person's soul, or Pacific Islanders keeling over with fright after seeing flame-producing cigarette lighters for the first time; any newer technology is going to frighten those easily frightened and cause them to cling to silly superstition. No, hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia has been alive and well for nearly 2,000 years--and yet here we all are. Imagine that... ;-)


Fine!! But I'm still gonna throw some salt over my shoulder...just in case...
Quoting Neapolitan:

I never claimed that we should latch onto all technology without worrying about any possible downside(s). But there's a huge gap between questioning a technology, and dismissing it outright--or even demonizing it, as here--because of superstition, fear, and lack of understanding. That's all I meant.


Those big Oil and Gas companies use technology that so calls pollutes your planet, and yet here we all are. Imagine that... ;-)
Quoting RitaEvac:


Those big Oil and Gas companies use technology that so calls pollutes your planet, and yet here we all are. Imagine that... ;-)



Just until the end of December! :D
Got my first little snow of the season finally, boy was it a dry snow. 15:1 - 20:1 ratio or so, I got about 3 inches, just under. It's really blowing around here today. Winter is here...ahhhhh :)
Quoting Minnemike:
i can see both sides as you present it, but i personally would not want to be 'chipped' due to some pretty solid reasons based in my morality, and social ethic. it's duly unnecessary sans population control, and ought not be 'sold' as anything other than that. imho

That's perfectly understandable, of course; if someone doesn't want an intrusive biochip implanted for reasons of ethics, morality, or legality, that should be their right; I seriously doubt I'd want one either, and probably for much the same reason as you. But yours is a reasoned and logical approach, not a knee-jerk reaction based only on ancient superstition. The latter is what I'm talking about.
Quoting Neapolitan:

I never claimed that we should latch onto all technology without worrying about any possible downside(s). But there's a huge gap between questioning a technology, and dismissing it outright--or even demonizing it, as here--because of superstition, fear, and lack of understanding. That's all I meant.
Unfortunately the implication of this technology fits perfectly with the end of the world/mark of the beast scenario and so those voices will be a part of the debate.. I think that most of the countries will move to this system fairly quickly so long as they have sufficient infrastructure in place.. The US will probably struggle over this as it has tremendous potential to invade the average citizen's privacy. As global pressure increases on the US to join the 'system' I could see the gov't offering a whole lot of incentives, debt relief, cash.. well I guess it would be credits... interest free loans, etc.. It's gonna be one heck of a ride!
Quoting Neapolitan:

That's perfectly understandable, of course; if someone doesn't want an intrusive biochip implanted for reasons of ethics, morality, or legality, that should be their right; I seriously doubt I'd want one either, and probably for much the same reason as you. But yours is a reasoned and logical approach, not a knee-jerk reaction based only on ancient superstition. The latter is what I'm talking about.
it's somewhat of a paradox such that the well thought out reasons for this example, i think, resemble quite closely the knee jerk reactions. it's almost one of those attributes that American's possess by virtue of the rigid philosophical and intellectual bases for our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and other actions and consideration founding fathers designed into this country. in a way, just being American citizens ingrains an innate understanding of why chipping is a bad idea... even if only a small minority of folks can actually articulate why.

but in general, i definitely agree with your statements applied to general situations!

edit: ingrains an innate... redundant? :P
Quoting Neapolitan:

I never claimed that we should latch onto all technology without worrying about any possible downside(s). But there's a huge gap between questioning a technology, and dismissing it outright--or even demonizing it, as here--because of superstition, fear, and lack of understanding. That's all I meant.


I gotcha. I find technology like India is implementing to be extremely dangerous though for a number of reasons. We can only hope this won't happen in the U.S. any time soon.


Now if we want to talk great technology, stuff like this is why I'm glad to live in the 21st Century. This video in the link is must watch, if any of you haven't already seen it. Its only 3 minutes :)

Link
Quoting JNCali:
As global pressure increases on the US to join the 'system' I could see the gov't offering a whole lot of incentives, debt relief, cash.. well I guess it would be credits... interest free loans, etc.. It's gonna be one heck of a ride!


And that's where the problem is. A government that has power to do that has power to do whatever they want with your money. They will say it's unhackable, so when it does get hacked, the poor person who was hacked will get blamed, imprisoned, shunned or whatever until the truth finally does come out. Will anyone want to come forward and say the system is flawed? No, not when the govt can turn off your ability to buy or sell with the click of a keyboard.

The banks will do exactly what the government tells them too.
Quoting SafeInTexas:
The banks will do exactly what the government tells them too.

I think you might have that backward. ;-)
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:


When they implement this (or try to) in this country, they will sell it to the public by hyping how "limited" in scope it will be. But then a little at a time, they will use it for more and more things. Goodbye to what little privacy we have left.
Read the history of Social Security and see how limited that was originally and see how it has been changed through the years. Resistance is futile,,,,,


nobody is going to do that to me. i can put my life on it that i will not have that :D
Quoting RitaEvac:
Mark of the Beast has arrived


the mark of the beast is prophesized in the bible, but it is the number 666 that you will have uner the skin either on your forehead or your wrist. those who dont have it dont get food, water anything. but it is part of the tribulation where the church(Christians) have already went to heaven with Christ, and that hasnt happened tho. that India thing did catch my attention even so!
Quoting JNCali:
Technology is great... it just the people who are in charge of it that can be a problem... every solution has consequences.. or side effects some obvious, others not so much.. we all take a risk when we pop a pill, but can we truly know all the risk?


i personally wish some technology wouldnt be here. some things have helped America become lazy.
Quoting SPLbeater:


i personally wish some technology wouldnt be here. some things have helped America become lazy.


Its not technology that does it, its the attitude. Do you get it? Its like blaming alcohol on drunkenness and thinking prohibition is the solution. Learn human nature more bro.

Technology isn't the real issue here.
Financial markets close in turmoil as downgrades spread across Eurozone
Posted on January 14, 2012
January 14, 2012 – FRANCE – Standard & Poor’s swept the debt-ridden European continent with punishing credit downgrades Friday, stripping France of its coveted AAA status and dropping Italy even lower. Germany retained its top-notch rating, but Portugal’s debt was consigned to junk. In all, S&P, which took away the United States’ AAA rating last summer, lowered the ratings of nine countries, complicating Europe’s efforts to find a way out of a debt crisis that still threatens to cause worldwide economic harm. Austria also lost its AAA status, Italy and Spain fell by two notches, and S&P also cut ratings on Malta, Cyprus, Slovakia and Slovenia......

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Scientists find rift between New Mexico and Colorado geologically active and capable of generating quakes Posted on January 13, 2012


January 13, 2012 – NEW MEXICO – The Rio Grande Rift, a thinning and stretching of Earth’s surface that extends from Colorado’s central Rocky Mountains to Mexico, is not dead but geologically alive and active, according to a new study involving scientists from the University of Colorado Boulder’s Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences. “We don’t expect to see a lot of earthquakes, or big ones, but we will have some earthquakes,” said CU-Boulder geological sciences Professor Anne Sheehan, also a fellow at CIRES. The study also involved collaborators from the University of New Mexico, New Mexico Tech, Utah State University and the Boulder-headquartered UNAVCO. The Rio Grande Rift follows the path of the Rio Grande River from central Colorado roughly to El Paso before turning southeast toward the Gulf of Mexico. Sheehan was not too surprised when a 5.3 magnitude earthquake struck about 9 miles west of Trinidad, Colo., in the vicinity of the Rio Grande Rift on Aug. 23, 2011. The quake was the largest in Colorado since 1967 and was felt from Fort Collins to Garden City, Kan. Along the rift, spreading motion in the crust has led to the rise of magma — the molten rock material under Earth’s crust — to the surface, creating long, fault-bounded basins that are susceptible to earthquakes, said Sheehan, a study co-author and also associate director of the CIRES Solid Earth Sciences Division. The team studied the Rio Grande Rift region to assess the potential earthquake hazards. Also, the team may attempt to determine vertical as well as horizontal activity in the region to tell whether the Rocky Mountains are still uplifting or not, Berglund said. As far as the potential for future earthquakes in the region, the study’s results are unequivocal, however. “The rift is still active,” Sheehan said. –Physics
WSJ: Radioactive plague for locust eaters in Japan? %u2014 Results astonishing, says researcher

Published: January 13th, 2012 at 09:52 AM EDT |
By Enenews Admin

For Japan Locust Eaters, A Plague of Cesium?, Wall Street Journal, Jan. 13, 2012:

[... L]ocusts are a bounty for the insect eaters of rice-producing regions like Nagano, Chiba and the towns of the northeast hit hardest by the March 11 disasters.
But Hajime Fugo, the vice president of Tokyo University of Agriculture of Technology and a physiologist specializing in insects [...] along with two students, in October went to Iitate, a village located over 30 kilometers away from the nuclear plant and where hot spots of high radiation have been discovered. [...]
About 4,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium-134 and cesium-137 was detected in the grasshoppers, all 500 weighing a cumulative one kilogram. The levels far exceed Japan%u2019s regulatory limit of 500 becquerels per kilogram.

Mr. Fugo said the results were astonishing. [...]

The Journal notes Fugo is %u201Cconcerned the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident may swat the critter off the country%u2019s bug-eating menu, [and] is conducting research designed to save the tasty tradition%u201D and %u201Cworried the locust-eating tradition may fall into extinction should
connoisseurs shun the bug amid deepening anxiety among consumers%u201D.

Keep that in mind when reading about how %u201Cthe scientist thinks it is safe to eat the bugs because they are usually in snack-sized portions%u201D