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Top ten global weather events of 2011

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:00 PM GMT on December 30, 2011

A remarkable blitz of extreme weather events during 2011 caused a total of 32 weather disasters costing at least $1 billion worldwide. Five nations experienced their most expensive weather-related natural disasters on record during 2011--Thailand, Australia, Colombia, Sri Lanka, and Cambodia. According to insurance broker AON Benfield's November Catastrophe Report, the U.S. was hit by no less than seventeen punishing multi-billion dollar extreme weather disasters in 2011; NOAA's National Climatic Data Center official total is lower--twelve--but is likely to grow in number as additional damage statistics are tallied. Brazil experienced its deadliest weather-related natural disaster--a flash flood that killed 902 people in January, and the Philippines had its second deadliest flood ever, when Tropical Storm Washi killed over 1200 people in December.





It was difficult to pick a top ten list of top weather events of 2011 from this bewildering list of candidates, and I cheated a bit by giving a tie for tenth place, so that eleven events would make the list. My list of top weather events were chosen based on their impact to society and meteorological significance. Damage estimates and death tolls for the 2011 disasters were mostly taken from AON Benfield's November Catastrophe Report, and records for damages and death tolls from disasters in previous years was taken from the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters (CRED.) Here, then, is this year's top ten list. I've included links to some of my blogs posts made at the time of the disaster.

1) East Africa drought and famine: over 30,000 dead
The deadliest weather disaster of 2011 was a quiet one that got few headlines--the East African drought in Somalia, Kenya, and Ethiopia. On July 20, the United Nations officially declared famine in two regions of southern Somalia, the first time a famine has been declared by the UN in nearly thirty years. Almost 30,000 children under the age of five were believed to have died of malnutrition in Somalia this summer, and the total death toll of this great drought is doubtless much higher. East Africa has two rainy seasons--a main "long rains" of March - June, and the "short rains" of October - November. The "short rains" failed in the fall of 2010, and when the main "long rains" in spring 2011 also failed, it brought one of the worst droughts in recorded history. The 2010 - 2011 drought was rated along with the droughts of 1983 - 1984 and 1999 - 2000 as one of the three most significant droughts of the past 60 years. It was the driest 12-month period on record at some locations in East Africa. Damage assessments from the drought are not yet available, but it would not be a surprise if the drought of 2011 was the costliest weather-related natural disaster on record for Somalia, Ethiopia, and Kenya.

December 20 post: Deadliest weather disaster of 2011: the East African drought


Figure 1. Children fetch water at a tap installed by the International Rescue Committee (IRC) in the village of Darssalam in central Somalia. Image credit: IRC.

2) Thailand flooding: most expensive natural disaster in Thai history
Heavy monsoon and tropical cyclone rains from July through October, enhanced by La Niña conditions, led to unprecedented flooding that killed 657 people and caused Thailand's most expensive natural disaster in history. Damages are now estimated at $45 billion by re-insurance company AON Benfield. This is 18% of the country's GDP. Hurricane Katrina cost the U.S. about 0.7% of its GDP, so the Thailand floods can be thought of as a disaster 25 times worse than Katrina for that country. Thailand's previous most expensive natural disaster was the $1.3 billion price tag of the November 27, 1993 flood, according to the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters (CRED). The floodwaters this year have hit 83% of Thailand's provinces, affected 9.8 million people, and damaged four million structures and approximately 25% of the nation's rice crop. Thailand is the world's largest exporter of rice, accounting for 30% of the global total, and the flood has helped trigger an increase in world rice prices in late 2011.

November 14 post: Thailand's flood gradually subsiding; climate change increasing Thai flood risk


Figure 2. An SH-60F Sea Hawk helicopter assigned to Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron (HS) 14, flies around the Bangkok area with members of the humanitarian assessment survey team and the Royal Thai Armed Forces to assess the damage caused by the 2011 floods. Image credit: Petty Officer 1st Class Jennifer Villalovos

3) Queensland, Australia flooding: most expensive natural disaster in Australian history
Heavy rains from December 2010 through January 2011, enhanced by La Niña conditions and record-warm ocean temperatures, led to unprecedented rains and flooding that killed 35 people and did $30 billion in damage. This was 3.2% of Australia's GDP, and five times more costly than the nation's previous most expensive natural disaster in history, the 1981 drought ($6 billion.) Rainfall in Queensland and all of eastern Australia in December 2010 was the greatest on record, and the year 2010 was the rainiest year on record for Queensland.

January 21 post: 2011: Year of the Flood


Figure 3. Still frame from a remarkable 6-minute YouTube video showing the sad fate of a row of parked cars when a flash flood in Toowoomba, Queensland sweeps away dozens of the cars. A note to the wise: Two minutes into the video, we see a man enter the flash flood to save his car. He is successful, but his actions were extremely risky--most flash flood deaths occur when cars with people inside get swept away.

4) Columbia floods: most expensive natural disaster in Colombia's history
Heavy rains in Colombia reached their peak in late April, triggering floods that killed 116 and did $5.85 billion in damage (2% of their GDP), making it the most damaging natural disaster in Colombia's history. Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos warned: “There are going to be a lot of needy people, there has never been a tragedy of this scale in our history.” Colombia's previous most expensive weather disaster occurred just last year, when the heaviest rains in 42 years of record keeping occurred. Floods and landslides killed 528, did $1 billion in damage, and left 2.2 million homeless in 2010. Colombia's most expensive natural disaster prior to 2011 was the $1.9 billion in damage from the January 25, 1999 earthquake, according to CRED.

5) Tropical Storm Washi: second deadliest weather disaster in Philippine history
Tropical Storm Washi hit the southern Philippine island of Mindanao as a tropical storm with 45 - 55 mph winds, crossing the island in about eighteen hours on December 16. Washi was unusually wet, as the storm was able to tap a large stream of tropical moisture extending far to the east, and drew moisture from an area where sea surface temperatures were nearly 1°C above average--one of the top five warmest values on record. Washi's rains fell on regions where the natural forest had been illegally logged or converted to pineapple plantations, and the heavy rains were able to run off quickly on the relatively barren soils and create devastating flash floods. Since the storm hit in the middle of the night, and affected an unprepared population that had no flood warning system in place, the death toll was tragically high. At least 1249 people perished, and 79 people are still listed as missing. The only deadlier storm ever to hit the Philippines was Tropical Storm Thelma on November 5, 1991, which killed 5956 people.

December 19 post: Tropical Storm Washi kills 632 in the Philippines


Figure 5. MODIS true-color satellite image of Tropical Storm Washi at 01:45 UTC December 16, 2011, as it bore down on the Philippines. At the time, Washi had top sustatined winds of 50 mph. Image credit: NASA.

6) Brazil flash flood kills 902: deadliest natural disaster in Brazil's history
Brazil suffered its deadliest natural disaster in history on January 11, when torrential rains inundated a heavily populated, steep-sloped area about 40 miles north of Rio de Janeiro. Flash floods and mudslides from the heavy rains have claimed 902 lives, including at least 357 in Nova Friburgo and 323 in Teresópolis. Rainfall amounts of approximately 300 mm (12 inches) fell in just a few hours in the hardest-hit regions. Damage estimates are $1.2 billion, making it the most damaging storm in Brazil's history, and third most damaging natural disaster, behind the $2.3 billion and $1.7 billion price tags of the 1978 and 2004 droughts. The previous deadliest flood in Brazilian history was a January 23, 1967 flood that killed 785 people.

January 14 post: At least 611 dead in Brazilian floods: Brazil's deadliest natural disaster in history


Figure 6. Flooded stream in Teresópolis. Image credit: Wikipedia.

7) April 25 - 28 Super" tornado outbreak kills 321 in the U.S.
On April 25 - 28, 2011, a massive tornado outbreak clobbered the Midwest and Southeast U.S. with 343 tornadoes. Now called the April 2011 Super tornado outbreak, it was the largest and most damaging tornado outbreak in U.S. history. The tornadoes caused 321 deaths, with 240 of those occurring in Alabama. The deadliest tornado of the outbreak, an EF-5, hit northern Alabama, killing 78 people. Several major metropolitan areas were directly impacted by strong tornadoes including Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Huntsville in Alabama and Chattanooga, Tennessee, causing the estimated damage costs to soar. The outbreak caused more than $7.3 billion insured losses and total losses greater than $10.2 billion.

April 29 post: Over 300 dead in historic tornado outbreak; one violent EF-5 tornado confirmed


Figure 7. The Piggly Wiggly supermarket and Family Dollar store after the EF-5 Hackleburg, Alabama tornado on April 27. Image credit: NWS Birmingham, Alabama.

8) Southern U.S./Northern Mexico drought: $10 billion in damage, and rising
Drought and excessive heat created major impacts across Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, southern Kansas, western Louisiana, and northern Mexico. Texas endured its driest 1-year period on record, and rainfall in much of northern Mexico was the lowest since record keeping began in 1941. Texas had the hottest summer ever recorded by a U.S. state, and Oklahoma had the hottest month (July) any U.S. state has ever recorded. The total direct losses to crops, livestock and timber are estimated at $10 billion, but are expected to continue to rise as the drought continues into 2012. Record fires across the region caused an additional $1 billion in damage.

August 17 post: Texas heat wave smashes more records


Figure 8. Business was slow at the Lake Conroe, Texas jet ski rental in 2011, thanks to the great Texas drought of 2011. Image credit: wunderphotographer BEENE.

9) Pakistan floods: 2nd most expensive weather disaster in Pakistani history
Heavy rains during the July through September monsoon season triggered devastating flooding that killed 456 and did $2 billion in damage (1.1% of GDP) in Pakistan. It was the second most expensive weather-related disaster in Pakistan's history, behind the $9.5 billion price tag of the 2010 floods (5.5% of GDP.)

10 (tie) Hurricane Irene: most damaging tropical cyclone of 2011
The most damaging tropical cyclone on the globe during 2011 was Hurricane Irene, which plowed through the Bahama Islands as a Category 3 hurricane with 120 mph winds before striking North Carolina as a Category 1 hurricane with 85 mph winds on August 27. Most of Irene's damage occurred after it made landfall on Long Island, New York as a tropical storm with 65 mph winds, when torrential rainfall triggered extreme flooding in the Northeast U.S. More than 7 million homes and businesses lost power during the storm. Irene caused at least 45 deaths in the U.S., and ten in the Caribbean and Bahamas. Damage is estimated at $7.3 billion.

December 3 post: Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster


Figure 9. GOES-East visible satellite image of Irene taken at 7:45 am EDT on Sunday, August 28, 2011. At the time, Irene was a tropical storm with 65 mph winds, making landfall on Long Island, New York. Image credit: NOAA Environmental Visualization laboratory.

10 (tie) May 22 - 27 Joplin, Missouri tornado outbreak
A violent EF-5 tornado carved a ½ – ¾ mile-wide path of devastation through Joplin, Missouri on May 22, killing 158, and causing $3 billion in damage. Huge sections of the town virtually obliterated, and damage from the tornado was so severe that pavement was ripped from the ground. It was the largest death toll from a U.S. tornado since 1947, seventh deadliest tornado in U.S. history, and the most expensive tornado in world history. The six-day outbreak spawned 180 tornadoes in the central and southern states, killed 177, and did $9.1 billion in damage.

May 23 post: Deadliest U.S. tornado since 1953 rips through Joplin, Missouri, killing 89


Video 1. Video of the Joplin, Missouri tornado of May 22, 2011, entering the southwest side of town. Filmed by TornadoVideos.net Basehunters team Colt Forney, Isaac Pato, Kevin Rolfs, and Scott Peake. The most remarkable audio I've ever heard of people surviving a direct hit by a violent tornado was posted to Youtube by someone who took shelter in the walk-in storage refrigerator at a gas station during the Joplin tornado. There isn't much video.

Honorable mentions:
1) Sri Lanka: Heaviest rains in nearly a century of record keeping triggered a 1-in-100 year flood in January that killed 43 and did $500 million in damage--the costliest weather-related disaster in Sri Lanka's history. Renewed rains February 1 - 10 caused flooding that killed 18 and cost an additional $450 million--the second most costly natural disaster in Sri Lanka's history.

2) Heavy rains in September and October in Cambodia triggered flooding that killed 250 and did $521 million in damage--by far the most expensive natural disaster in Cambodian history. The previous most expensive disaster was the $160 million cost of floods in July 2000.

3) El Salvador: Heavy rains from Tropical Depression 12-E in October triggered flooding that killed 140 in Central America and caused $900 million in damage to El Salvador (4.2% of GDP). This is the 2nd most expensive weather-related disaster in El Salvador's history, behind the $939 million price tag of their Nov. 7, 2009 flood.

4) China: June floods in China killed 239, doing $6.65 billion in damage, the 10th most damaging weather-related disaster in Chinese history.

5) China: September floods killed 101 and did $4.25 billion in damage.

6) U.S.: Greatest flood on the Lower Mississippi River on record caused $4 billion in damage.

7) China: A drought in Northern China during January through April cost $2.7 billion.

8) Denmark: Severe flooding on July 2 - 3 caused $1 billion in damage, the 3rd most expensive weather-related disaster in Danish history.

Other posts looking back at the remarkable weather events of 2011
2011: Year of the Tornado
Deadliest weather disaster of 2011:; the East African drought
Tropical Storm Lee's flood in Binghamton: was global warming the final straw?
Wettest year on record in Philadelphia; 2011 sets record for wet/dry extremes in U.S.
Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster

Donations sought for the East Africa famine
Weather Underground has partnered with the International Rescue Committee (IRC) to help the Horn of Africa region during the ongoing famine. With the help of the Weather Underground community, we hope to raise $10,000 that will go toward helping the refugees survive the crisis. Weather Underground will match the community's donation dollar-for-dollar up to $10,000 for a total donation of $20,000. Please visit the East Africa famine donation page to help out. Ninety cents of every dollar donated goes directly to the people in need.

This will be my last post until Tuesday, as its time to gather with family and friends and celebrate the arrival of the new year. Happy New Year, everyone!

Jeff Masters

Extreme Weather Climate Summaries

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

1001. dabirds
Quoting Patrap:

Enjoy your "Sugar Bowl" Tuesday.


Have several friends down enjoying theirs in your wonderful city, wish we could have joined them, been too long since enjoyed the food, music, people of New Orleans. Have a great day, looks like a fun week - Sugar Bowl, start of Mardi Gras season, Saints playoff, & National Championship game - almost too much fun but sure ya'll can handle it!
Quoting dabirds:


Have several friends down enjoying theirs in your wonderful city, wish we could have joined them, been too long since enjoyed the food, music, people of New Orleans. Have a great day, looks like a fun week - Sugar Bowl, start of Mardi Gras season, Saints playoff, & National Championship game - almost too much fun but sure ya'll can handle it!


Saints are playing on all cylinders. I said it before the season the Saints will win the Super bowl this year.
1003. Patrap
We sure full as a tick down here datz fer sure, also my Fav new Event is Friday.

She would have been 600 this Friday.

Joan of Arc Parade,


Horseback 'Saint' leads Joan of Arc parade through French Quarter on Twelfth Night
Published: Tuesday, January 03, 2012, 5:07 AM





Quoting AtHomeInTX:



That would be nice. Haven't seen rain like that in a long while. Heard a lot of thunder throughout last summer but mostly just brought lightning, which caused fires, etc. etc. Hope you're right. :)


Galveston county is smoked in right now, with thick white smoke and haze, on the horizon to the north is down right dark gray
1005. Patrap
1006. Patrap
Major controlled fire SW of Port Author, was burning yesterday but blowing out to sea, now winds are turning more NE and East, moving smoke right over Galveston county, yack, cough, pfft

Visible loops show it well


Sand getting onto the street from Saunders Beach, Nassau. It's been quite windy all day.
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Saints are playing on all cylinders. I said it before the season the Saints will win the Super bowl this year.
12z Tom Taylor run says Packers and Patriots in the super bowl. Packers win.
Smoke to the north of Galveston Island



Quoting BahaHurican:


Sand getting onto the street from Saunders Beach, Nassau. It's been quite windy all day.


I know exactly where that is. Cable Beach right west end of the island about 4 to 5 miles from the big bridge that connects Nassua to Paradise Island.
Where is KOTG to blow this damn smoke outta here...
1013. dabirds
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Saints are playing on all cylinders. I said it before the season the Saints will win the Super bowl this year.
As a Bears fan, hope your right, hate to see the Pack get two in a row again, but that D needs to improve.

Friday looks like fun Pat!

One last time, Fear the Pail, good luck Bud, Let's Go Hokies!


GALVESTON, Texas -

Firefighters battled a large grass fire in Jefferson County Tuesday.

The fire has burned 10,000 to 12,000 acres of McFaddin Wildlife Refuge NE of High Island.

Officials said they expected to have the fire contained by the end of the day.

The cause of the fire is under investigation.

No other details have been released.

For more information on this breaking story, stay tuned to KPRC Local 2 and Click2Houston.com.
Quoting TomTaylor:
12z Tom Taylor run says Packers and Patriots in the super bowl. Packers win.


Saints vrs Patriots. Saints win 34 Patriots 27.
I don't know what's going on around here but Galveston county is smoked in and Pat is posting nation wide current analysis...this is the biggest damn crisis in this country....now get off yalls a$$ and do something. The fine young mayor says
1018. Patrap
Im making sure da Blimp Weather is good over the Superdome tonight Rita.

I'm sure it's dandy tonight in NOLA
1020. Patrap
Actually the fire is way over near Port Authur

Houston should have a problem later today
Quoting Patrap:
These are called stratocumulus I believe.
Ritaevac- WOW Just like our Santa Ana wind driven fires here in So Cal. La Nina playing havoc with the failure of TX rain.
http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/DM_state.htm?TX,S

Still 67% of TX in "Extreme" or "Exceptional" drought categories,which amazingly enough is a significant IMPROVEMENT over the 96%+ D3/4 readings 3 months ago.
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Saints vrs Patriots. Saints win 34 Patriots 27.


no no no no, the Patriots ALWAYS get atleast 30 points in a game. my superbowl picks are New England vs. New Orleans

Patriots 35 Saints 24(both teams are my favorites)
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Saints vrs Patriots. Saints win 34 Patriots 27.

Hey There people. Rather chilly in tampa today somewhere in the upper 40's. I think it will be the Saints and Steeler in the superbowl.
Interesting excerpt from accuweather, "The angle of the wind will not cause the air to pass over the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico, where it would be modified by warm waters. However, the same wind will prevent the coldest air from collecting near the ground initially.
The lowest temperatures are expected later tonight into Wednesday morning, when the wind is likely to drop off under clear skies." Clear, calm, & low dew points is a recipe for radiational cooling. Right now it is still windy, but the skies have cleared, if the wind stays up there won't be widespread freeze, if it calms, some records are at stake.
Focus on the European debt crisis -- and with good reason. This potentially explosive event will have an enormous impact on your wealth in the weeks ahead
Quoting SPLbeater:


no no no no, the Patriots ALWAYS get atleast 30 points in a game. my superbowl picks are New England vs. New Orleans

Patriots 35 Saints 24(both teams are my favorites)

Broncos 10 Lions 9 --Book It
I'm going with the Ravens to take it all, but the Lions sure shocked me this year, especially that offense with Megatron & all!
Quoting WxGeekVA:

Broncos 10 Lions 9 --Book It
Hey that was my original pick, but that's going as far as to say the World will end this year if that happens :-P
UMM Sorry bout the smoke Rita. Can't blame lightning for it this time though.


Dry and windy conditions were the precise ingredients necessary to fuel and spread fires Monday in two counties in southeast Texas.

If the weather conditions were enough of a problem, firefighters were on skeleton crews as well.

In Jefferson County, LaBelle-Fannett volunteer firefighters were spread thin as firefighters helped put out fires in western Jefferson County, including one fire that was started by a man welding his truck in LaBelle in the 13000 block of Craigen Road.

Within minutes, that fire spread and scorched 5 acres causing three homes to be evacuated.

"Less than 20 minutes, you can see how far it spread and the main thing, our main concern was to protect this structure and the structure here beside me," said LaBelle-Fannet Volunteer Fire Chief Charles Sonnier.

Sonnier credits the dry and windy conditions for spreading the fire so fast.

Near Bridge City, McLewis volunteer firefighters were facing the same issues when trying to put out a fire in which they believe was started by a firecracker. It took firefighters nearly an hour to contain the two acre fire in a wooded area

Though firefighters had a hard time putting out these fires and wanted to put them out quickly, Wayne Hatcher said his fields will benefit from the blaze.

"It's actually going to help the hay field. I mean, it's not hurting nothing, everything is contained, so it really didn't hurt anything. Make the grass come back in the spring," he said.

Chief Sonnier said the Hamshire Volunteer Fire Department has been fighting a fire in Hamshire for two days. They were able to finally put it out Monday with the help of the Texas Forest Service. Sonnier said there's still not a cause on what started that fire.

No one was hurt and no structures were damaged in any of the fires Monday.



World’s Biggest Economies Face $7.6T Debt

Governments of the world’s leading economies have more than $7.6 trillion of debt maturing this year, with most facing a rise in borrowing costs.

Led by Japan’s $3 trillion and the U.S.’s $2.8 trillion, the amount coming due for the Group of Seven nations and Brazil, Russia, India and China is up from $7.4 trillion at this time last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Ten-year bond yields will be higher by year-end for at least seven of the countries, forecasts show...............

Link
Quoting sunlinepr:
World’s Biggest Economies Face $7.6T Debt

Governments of the world’s leading economies have more than $7.6 trillion of debt maturing this year, with most facing a rise in borrowing costs.

Led by Japan’s $3 trillion and the U.S.’s $2.8 trillion, the amount coming due for the Group of Seven nations and Brazil, Russia, India and China is up from $7.4 trillion at this time last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Ten-year bond yields will be higher by year-end for at least seven of the countries, forecasts show...............

Link


U.S. Debt: It’s Even Worse Than You Think

The Obama administration, like previous administrations, had little interest in telling the American people that their debt problem was vastly worse than they thought. It buried the report on a day when most reporters were preparing for the holidays and unlikely to pore through a 254-page document filled with long columns of numbers punctuated with footnotes and accounting jargon.

Predictably, the financial report was ignored. Even The New York Times took no notice of it.

According to the report, the federal debt — simply the cumulative value of all past budget deficits less surpluses — was $10.2 trillion on Sept. 30. But the government also owed $5.8 trillion to federal employees and veterans. Social Security’s unfunded liability — promised benefits over expected Social Security revenues — was $9.2 trillion over the next 75 years, or about 1 percent of the gross domestic product. Medicare’s unfunded liability was $24.6 trillion, or 3 percent of G.D.P.

Altogether, the Treasury reckons the government’s total indebtedness at $51.3 trillion – five times the size of the national debt. This would be an unbearable burden if it had to be paid by the current generation out of current resources, for it approximately equals the entire net worth of American households.


Quoting StormTracker2K:


LOL! Welcome to January is right!
spit froze in ten minute wow its warm out there up here the spit is frozen before it hits the ground
Quoting RitaEvac:


U.S. Debt: It%u2019s Even Worse Than You Think

The Obama administration, like previous administrations, had little interest in telling the American people that their debt problem was vastly worse than they thought.




Very true... Lets all run to the nearest bank to cash all our savings and save them in a hidden safe box.... Remember what happened in Argentina... and some of the current EU countries...
Sigh...

DROUGHT INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
152 PM CST FRI DEC 30 2011

...PRELIMINARY DATA SUGGEST THAT THE CURRENT DROUGHT HAS BEEN THE
MOST INTENSE DROUGHT EVER RECORDED SINCE 1895...

...RECENT RAINFALL HAS SCALED BACK THE AREA THAT IS NOW INCLUDED
IN THE EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT CATEGORY...


SYNOPSIS...
THE LATEST U.S. DROUGHT MONITOR (USDM)...ISSUED THROUGH THE NATIONAL
DROUGHT MITIGATION CENTER ON DECEMBER 27TH...INDICATES EXCEPTIONAL
DROUGHT CONDITIONS (CLASSIFIED AS D4 - THE HIGHEST INTENSITY
CATEGORY) ACROSS PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA THAT INCLUDES MUCH
OF CAMERON PARISH...WESTERN VERMILION...SOUTHERN JEFFERSON DAVIS AND
SOUTHEAST CALCASIEU PARISHES. THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA EXCEPT FOR
THE EXTREME EASTERN PORTIONS OF CENTRAL LOUISIANA ARE IN SEVERE TO
EXTREME DROUGHT CONDITONS. RECENT RAINFALL AND DECREASED EVAPORATION
HAS IMPROVED THE SHORT TERM EFFECTS OF THE ONGOING DROUGHT...HOWEVER
THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ARE STILL THERE.

THIS CURRENT DROUGHT IS THE MOST INTENSE DROUGHT EVER RECORDED IN
MODEREN RECORD KEEPING SINCE 1895. USING THE PALMER DROUGHT INDEX TO
RANK THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF THIS DROUGHT ACROSS SOUTHEAST
TEXAS AND SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...THE CURRENT DROUGHT HAS SO FAR
PEAKED AT A -5.20 AVERAGE ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA AND IS THE LOWEST
VALUE RECORDED SINCE 1895. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE ISSUED IN
THE NEXT STATEMENT NEXT YEAR WHEN THE FINAL NUMBERS COME IN.

THE PALMER DROUGHT INDEX...IS A METEORLOGICAL DROUGHT INDEX USED TO
ASSESS THE SEVERITY OF DRY OR WET SPELLS. THIS INDEX IS BASED ON THE
PRINCPLES OF A BALANCE BETWEEN MOISTURE SUPPLY AND DEMAND. THE INDEX
RANGES FROM VALUES OF -6 TO + 6...WITH NEGATIVE VALUES DENOTING DRY
SPELLS.

LAKE LEVELS AT BOTH TOLEDO BEND AND SAM RAYBURN ACHEIVED NEW RECORD
LOW VALUES THIS PAST NOVEMBER...BUT HAVE SINCE INCHED UPWARDS DUE TO
RECENT RAINFALL.
NWS keeps lowering the temperatures in the Tampa Bay area...even a Hard Freeze now for Pinellas County.

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL 323 PM EST TUE JAN 3 2012

...SIGNIFICANT FREEZING TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TONIGHT...

.TEMPERATURES WILL FALL RAPIDLY AFTER SUNSET TONIGHT WITH WIDESPREAD SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE REGION. A HARD FREEZE WILL OCCUR TONIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH LOWS RANGING FROM THE UPPER TEENS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE NATURE COAST TO THE UPPER 20S FOR INLAND SECTIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST COAST BETWEEN FORT MYERS AND LAKE OKEECHOBEE.

FLZ050-065-041400-/O.CAN.KTBW.FZ.W.0003.120104T05 00Z-120104T1400Z//O.EXA.KTBW.HZ.W.0002.120104T0300 Z-120104T1400Z/PINELLAS-LEE-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CLEARWATER...ST. PETERSBURG... CAPE CORAL...FORT MYERS 323 PM EST TUE JAN 3 2012

...HARD FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 9 AM EST WEDNESDAY... ...FREEZE WARNING IS CANCELLED...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL HAS ISSUED A HARD FREEZE WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 9 AM EST WEDNESDAY. THE FREEZE WARNING HAS BEEN CANCELLED AND REPLACED WITH A HARD FREEZE WARNING.

* IMPACTS...SENSITIVE VEGETATION IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO THESE COLD TEMPERATURES. TENDER PLANTS WILL BE KILLED AT THESE TEMPERATURES IF PROTECTIVE MEASURES ARE NOT TAKEN. PLAN TO COVER OR BRING THESE PLANTS INDOORS TODAY. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL BELOW 28 DEGREES FOR MORE THAN 2 HOURS ACROSS INTERIOR PORTIONS OF THE AREA.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A HARD FREEZE WARNING MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE IMMINENT OR HIGHLY LIKELY. THESE CONDITIONS WILL KILL CROPS AND OTHER SENSITIVE VEGETATION. TEMPERATURES BELOW 28 DEGREES FOR MORE THAN 2 HOURS ARE EXPECTED.
SUMMARY OF IMPACTS...

AGRICULTURAL IMPACTS...

LOUISIANA...
SALTWATER INTRUSION DUE TO THE LACK OF FRESH WATER INFLOWS HAS
CAUSED FARMERS IN COASTAL LOUISIANA SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO RICE AND
CRAWFISH PRODUCTION.


FIRE IMPACTS...

DUE TO RECENT RAINFALL...THE FIRE DANGER HAS DROPPED OFF
SIGNIFICANTLY ACROSS THE AREA...WITH FIRE DANGER VERY LOW TO LOW
EXCEPT ACROSS COASTAL SOUTHEAST TEXAS AND SOUTH LOUISIANA WHERE LESS
RAINFALL HAS BEEN OBSEVERED AND DURING TIMES OF WINDY CONDITIONS THE
FIRE DANGER GETS UP INTO THE MODERATE TO HIGH CATEGORIES.

CURRENT WATER RESTRICTIONS...
AT THIS TIME...LAKE SAM RAYBURN IS AT LEVELS WHEN THE LOWER NECHES
VALLEY AUTHORITY IMPLEMENTS STAGE 3 OR EMERGENCY WATER SHORTAGE
CONSERVATION MEASURES.

IN ADDITION...THE SABINE RIVER AUTHORITY HAS INITIATED STAGE 2
MODERATE WATER SHORTAGE CONSERVATION MEASURES. THIS IS DUE TO THE
RECORD LOW LEVELS OF TOLEDO BEND RESERVOIR.

RAINFALL DEFICITS CONTINUE TO INCREASE...AND NOW ARE RUNNING 35 TO 45 INCHES
BELOW NORMAL AT ALL THE ABOVE MENTIONED LOCATIONS SINCE JANUARY 1ST
2010 AND SEVERAL LOCATIONS HAVE FURTHER DEFICITS INTO 2009.


BASED ON RECRODS KEPT AT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE
CHARLES AND ASSUMING NO MORE RAINFALL FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR
WHICH LOOKS LIKELY...

LAFAYETTE WILL HAVE THE DRIEST YEAR ON RECORD IN 2011.

IN LAKE CHARLES 2011 RANKS AS THE 8TH DRIEST WITH 2010 AS THE 4TH
DRIEST.

IN BEAUMONT 2011 RANKS THE SECOND DRIEST YEAR ON RECORD.

TO FIND A YEAR CLOSE TO THIS AT ALL THE ABOVE MENTIONED SITES...YOU
HAVE TO GO ALL THE BACK TO 1917

WHEN ONE LOOKS AT THE DATA OVER THE ENTIRE AREA COVERED BY THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES...

2011 WILL BE THE DRIEST YEAR ON RECORD SINCE MODERN RECORDS SINCE
1895. THE PREVIOUS DRIEST YEAR ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA WAS 1993 WITH
WITH AN AREA AVERAGE OF 34.60. THIS YEAR SO FAR HAS AN AVERAGE
32.02.

ALSO 2011 LOOKS TO BE THE WARMEST YEAR ON RECORD AS WELL. IT IS TOO
SOON TO TELL HOW MUCH ABOVE THE PREVIOUS RECORD UNTIL ALL THE DATA
IS IN...HOWEVER THE PREVIOUS RECORD HIGH AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS
68.3 IN 1909.
Quoting severstorm:

Hey There people. Rather chilly in tampa today somewhere in the upper 40's. I think it will be the Saints and Steeler in the superbowl.


LOL! I agree I don't think anybody can beat the Saints right. Cold here as well but temps will be near 80 come this weekend. What a roller-coaster ride with these temps this week.
1037. sunlinepr 8:24 PM GMT on January 03, 2012 0
Quoting RitaEvac:


U.S. Debt: It%u2019s Even Worse Than You Think

The Obama administration, like previous administrations, had little interest in telling the American people that their debt problem was vastly worse than they thought.




Very true... Lets all run to the nearest bank to cash all our savings and save them in a hidden safe box.... Remember what happened in Argentina... and some of the current EU countries...
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my grandfather before he died told me i am the final generation and no generation will follow and i will see everything he had seen from the great wars to depressions except this time around they will be ten times worse he told me that back in the 80's a couple of years before he left us i laugh then but now iam not so sure
2012 is the year, not from falling stars, but from fallout from within
Quoting StormTracker2K:


LOL! I agree I don't think anybody can beat the Saints right. Cold here as well but temps will be near 80 come this weekend. What a roller-coaster ride with these temps this week.

Yeah i really dont think the saints can lose. Yes it will be a roller coaster and we really need some rain. the fire danger is going to be threw the roof.
Quoting RitaEvac:


U.S. Debt: It’s Even Worse Than You Think

The Obama administration, like previous administrations, had little interest in telling the American people that their debt problem was vastly worse than they thought. It buried the report on a day when most reporters were preparing for the holidays and unlikely to pore through a 254-page document filled with long columns of numbers punctuated with footnotes and accounting jargon.

Predictably, the financial report was ignored. Even The New York Times took no notice of it.

According to the report, the federal debt — simply the cumulative value of all past budget deficits less surpluses — was $10.2 trillion on Sept. 30. But the government also owed $5.8 trillion to federal employees and veterans. Social Security’s unfunded liability — promised benefits over expected Social Security revenues — was $9.2 trillion over the next 75 years, or about 1 percent of the gross domestic product. Medicare’s unfunded liability was $24.6 trillion, or 3 percent of G.D.P.

Altogether, the Treasury reckons the government’s total indebtedness at $51.3 trillion – five times the size of the national debt. This would be an unbearable burden if it had to be paid by the current generation out of current resources, for it approximately equals the entire net worth of American households.




You should provide a Link when cutting and pasting, so that context is understood, else this quote from the same article makes things seem not so bad:

"It’s essential that we strive to overcome budgetary myopia. Our debts are manageable, but only if we take a long-run perspective."

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Wow! Nice and cold...

Latest GFS MOS and GFS coop MOS guidance focuses on hard freeze for
much of the area with lower to middle 20s projected over the colder
inland areas and sub freezing conditions for the coast generally
west of US Highway 1.
Only sparing element is a tendency for winds
above the boundary layer to commence an slight onshore component at
the immediate coast after 06z south of Cape Canaveral. Not as sure
on possible cloud influence at this time.

Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


You should provide a Link when cutting and pasting, so that context is understood, else this quote from the same article makes things seem not so bad:

"It’s essential that we strive to overcome budgetary myopia. Our debts are manageable, but only if we take a long-run perspective."

.


I don't believe for a minute they're manageable
Awesome view off TX coast of the smoke cloud turning into and mixing in with mid level return flow over the Gulf off of Corpus Christi and Matagorda Bay on visible loops. moisture sticking to nuclei and converting to clouds and gaining altitude and height becoming taller clouds...
Quoting RitaEvac:
Houston should have a problem later today


Already seeing it pretty good here Houston. I am inside the 610 loop and it is really hazy and you can def smell the burning
The National Hurricane Center has released their Tropical Cyclone Report on Hurricane Philippe, of the changes ----

* Philippe reached hurricane intensity on two separate occasions.

* Philippe weakened to a tropical depression early in its lifespan; it was not downgraded operationally.

There's probably more but that is just what I am listing.

Link
Quoting DavidHOUTX:


Already seeing it pretty good here Houston. I am inside the 610 loop and it is really hazy and you can def smell the burning


It was weird here around lunch, everything in the distance was hazy white, and foreground as well, the sun wasn't even 100% bright shining down
Recent presentation from Stacy Stewart at the 2011 NOAA Hurricane Conference indicates that 93L (Melbourne system) will not be classified:












The presentation from Stewart is a large (200 MB) powerpoint presentation.
Quoting severstorm:

Yeah i really dont think the saints can lose. Yes it will be a roller coaster and we really need some rain. the fire danger is going to be threw the roof.


We should see some rain early next with possibly some thunderstorms as a squall line could aproach the west coast of FL come next Tuesday or Wednesday. This next system could mark a change to a rainier wx pattern as the southern branch is about to start taking over come later this weekend.
The thicker smoke is now going back offshore towards LA while the early day smoke is still riding inland with the seabreeze if you wanna call it that.
Quoting StormTracker2K:


We should see some rain early next with possibly some thunderstorms as a squall line could aproach the west coast of FL come next Tuesday or Wednesday. This next system could mark a change to a rainier wx pattern as the southern branch is about to start taking over come later this weekend.


What's your guess on rain in TX from it as well?
1057. Guysgal
Quoting RitaEvac:


U.S. Debt: It’s Even Worse Than You Think

The Obama administration, like previous administrations, had little interest in telling the American people that their debt problem was vastly worse than they thought. It buried the report on a day when most reporters were preparing for the holidays and unlikely to pore through a 254-page document filled with long columns of numbers punctuated with footnotes and accounting jargon.

Predictably, the financial report was ignored. Even The New York Times took no notice of it.

According to the report, the federal debt — simply the cumulative value of all past budget deficits less surpluses — was $10.2 trillion on Sept. 30. But the government also owed $5.8 trillion to federal employees and veterans. Social Security’s unfunded liability — promised benefits over expected Social Security revenues — was $9.2 trillion over the next 75 years, or about 1 percent of the gross domestic product. Medicare’s unfunded liability was $24.6 trillion, or 3 percent of G.D.P.

Altogether, the Treasury reckons the government’s total indebtedness at $51.3 trillion – five times the size of the national debt. This would be an unbearable burden if it had to be paid by the current generation out of current resources, for it approximately equals the entire net worth of American households.




First, families have to pay back their debt. Governments don’t — all they need to do is ensure that debt grows more slowly than their tax base. The debt from World War II was never repaid; it just became increasingly irrelevant as the U.S. economy grew, and with it the income subject to taxation.

Second — and this is the point almost nobody seems to get — an over-borrowed family owes money to someone else; U.S. debt is, to a large extent, money we owe to ourselves. Link



Quoting RitaEvac:


What's your guess on rain in TX from it as well?


Some areas of SE TX could really get dumped on. I would say a good 1.5" to 3" could be likely as this next system looks to wanna get going near SE TX. This event should begin to take place Sunday night and into Monday. Here's the 5 day totals below. Remember the system the models are intensifing is after this time period.



Quoting Guysgal:


First, families have to pay back their debt. Governments don’t — all they need to do is ensure that debt grows more slowly than their tax base. The debt from World War II was never repaid; it just became increasingly irrelevant as the U.S. economy grew, and with it the income subject to taxation.

Second — and this is the point almost nobody seems to get — an over-borrowed family owes money to someone else; U.S. debt is, to a large extent, money we owe to ourselves. Link





And the guy says at the very end

"So yes, debt matters. But right now, other things matter more. We need more, not less, government spending to get us out of our unemployment trap. And the wrongheaded, ill-informed obsession with debt is standing in the way."


Guy is a bafoon
Quoting severstorm:

Hey There people. Rather chilly in tampa today somewhere in the upper 40's. I think it will be the Saints and Steeler in the superbowl.

Steelers suck..
GO RAVENS.
Updated:

1062. Levi32
Good afternoon.

Blog updated.
Quoting Articuno:

Steelers suck..
GO RAVENS.
lol I can't stand the Steelers either
Quoting Levi32:
Good afternoon.

Blog updated.
Haven't read the blog yet, but it looks sweet, thanks Levi!
Quoting Articuno:

Steelers suck..
GO RAVENS.


ah, i dont think the steelers are goin even close to the superbowl. they aint impressed me this year fer some reason. but the Patriots....hehe, they might go
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Updated:



ik these are done for good reasons, but it means for me to have correct data i got to pull my track records out and re-do the track for those coordinates, lol. add some more yellow over the green
Quoting RitaEvac:


And the guy says at the very end

"So yes, debt matters. But right now, other things matter more. We need more, not less, government spending to get us out of our unemployment trap. And the wrongheaded, ill-informed obsession with debt is standing in the way."


Guy is a bafoon


The "guy" is a Princeton professor with a Nobel Prize in economics as well as a Times columnist. The "guy" probably also knows how to spell buffoon, which you apparent don't.

Just wondering, what are your qualifications for commenting on the subject?


Afternoon all.

Temperatures have been dropping, slowly all day, since about 3 a.m. here in Nassau. We got up to about 68 at one point this morning, but now we're down to 62. Winds have been brisk all day, from the N to NW at 15 mph with gusts to 25mph.

I stopped at Saunders Beach on my way home to try to capture some of the wind-driven wave action there. If any of the pics are worth it, I'll post them in my wunderphotos later.

Even the tourists were wearing jackets today.... :o)
Quoting StormTracker2K:


I know exactly where that is. Cable Beach right west end of the island about 4 to 5 miles from the big bridge that connects Nassua to Paradise Island.
This isn't quite as far west as Cable Beach, and is a lot closer to town. But you are in the right area.
Quoting BahaHurican:
Afternoon all.

Temperatures have been dropping, slowly all day, since about 3 a.m. here in Nassau. We got up to about 68 at one point this morning, but now we're down to 62. Winds have been brisk all day, from the N to NW at 15 mph with gusts to 25mph.

I stopped at Saunders Beach on my way home to try to capture some of the wind-driven wave action there. If any of the pics are worth it, I'll post them in my wunderphotos later.

Even the tourists were wearing jackets today.... :o)
all the way down to 62? lol
Quoting misanthrope:


The "guy" is a Princeton professor with a Nobel Prize in economics as well as a Times columnist. The "guy" probably also knows how to spell buffoon, which you apparent don't.

Just wondering, what are your qualifications for commenting on the subject?




Yea and this guy lives in a book with his nose in it, my qualifications are common sense, which all these booksmart experts across the nation don't have
KOTG, as long as that red represents dry and not hot, it's pretty accurate...
Quoting TomTaylor:
all the way down to 62? lol
Even worse, temps are still falling... O_O

We may get down [gasp] to the mid-fifties at this rate! Pull out the space heater and the extra blankets!!!!!

lol
dry it be
Quoting Guysgal:


First, families have to pay back their debt. Governments don’t — all they need to do is ensure that debt grows more slowly than their tax base. The debt from World War II was never repaid; it just became increasingly irrelevant as the U.S. economy grew, and with it the income subject to taxation.

Second — and this is the point almost nobody seems to get — an over-borrowed family owes money to someone else; U.S. debt is, to a large extent, money we owe to ourselves. Link






Most of the bloggers in here are Democrats, just print more money and take all the money from the wealthy, and make all banks and businesses property of the Federal Government, all will be good!
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Some areas of SE TX could really get dumped on. I would say a good 1.5" to 3" could be likely as this next system looks to wanna get going near SE TX. This event should begin to take place Sunday night and into Monday. Here's the 5 day totals below. Remember the system the models are intensifing is after this time period.





Area's north and east of Houston received more than 10 inches of rain In December, and are still in a severe drought!
Quoting BahaHurican:
Even worse, temps are still falling... O_O

We may get down [gasp] to the mid-fifties at this rate! Pull out the space heater and the extra blankets!!!!!

lol
iam leaning to 51 to 53 was going to go to 49 but i moved the fans just a little


lol
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
iam leaning to 51 to 53 was going to go to 49 but i moved the fans just a little


lol


I'm so jealous! In my face!
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
iam leaning to 51 to 53 was going to go to 49 but i moved the fans just a little


lol


Could ya turn em a little farther to the SE please. It's only 53 here NOW! Lol.
Quoting trunkmonkey:



Most of the bloggers in here are Democrats, just print more money and take all the money from the wealthy, and make all banks and businesses property of the Federal Government, all will be good!


I started to respond to this post, but I changed my mind. It's such an egregious over-generalization of who and what Democrats are, and even of what this blog is, that I saved my breath.

Meanwhile, still looking for even ONE half-decent picture from the beach today...
its 6f out where iam spit freezes before it hits the ground thats cold
Quoting RitaEvac:


It was weird here around lunch, everything in the distance was hazy white, and foreground as well, the sun wasn't even 100% bright shining down


Yea that is exactly how it was here. I walked outside around 2PM this afternoon and I immediately smelled something burning. The sky was really hazy and sun was pretty blocked out. I initially thought a building near by burned down
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
its 6f out where iam spit freezes before it hits the ground thats cold


Ok you win. :)
Quoting DavidHOUTX:


Yea that is exactly how it was here. I walked outside around 2PM this afternoon and I immediately smelled something burning. The sky was really hazy and sun was pretty blocked out. I initially thought a building near by burned down


Fire is way out east SW of Port Authur, some 60-75 miles away from downtown Houston
Quoting BahaHurican:
Even worse, temps are still falling... O_O

We may get down [gasp] to the mid-fifties at this rate! Pull out the space heater and the extra blankets!!!!!

lol


Our high today was 54, pretty remarkable for this far south anyways. It's supposed to get down to 25 tonight..
dont worry at home rtn flow coming with it warmer temps for a bit anyway
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
dont worry at home rtn flow coming with it warmer temps for a bit anyway



Sounds good. :)
Quoting RitaEvac:


Fire is way out east SW of Port Authur, some 60-75 miles away from downtown Houston

I wondered if folks in Houston had noticed it. I watched it all morning from Clear Lake, and by about 1 p.m. it had moved over the lake. It was thick enough here that visibility was really restricted for about a half-hour. From the top of the Kemah-Seabrook bridge, you could barely make out marker #2 in the channel.

The breeze came up about 2:30 and it's out of here now, but looking north it still looks a little hazy over Houston.
next cold blast starts late next week into the weekend of 14 15 of jan




if the models hold as always we wait and see






Notice the crowds of people lying around on the beach, swimming, and so on....
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
its 6f out where iam spit freezes before it hits the ground thats cold
Yikes!!!.... u need another six to go along with that.... I am now beginning to understand the large number of Canadians in Fort Lauderdale last week....
Quoting BahaHurican:






Notice the crowds of people lying around on the beach, swimming, and so on....

I see a lot of ghosts..that's freaking me out man.
I AM GOING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES. :(
lol jk
This is the cold I've been waiting for!!!!.My local T.V station this morning was hilarious.They were making fun of Floridians and said:Oh wow it's so cold that their actually wearing short sleevs and long pants.Not tank top's and shorts or not walking around with their shirts off.LOLOLOL!!!!!.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
next cold blast starts late next week into the weekend of 14 15 of jan




if the models hold as always we wait and see


can you post a still image of day 10?
Quoting BahaHurican:






Notice the crowds of people lying around on the beach, swimming, and so on....


wow man. i hope they have enough room
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
next cold blast starts late next week into the weekend of 14 15 of jan




if the models hold as always we wait and see
More cold please thank you :).I've been waiting for this type of weather since November and it never came.But nowwwww it's here!!!!.I hope these cold blast can stay longer except for being short lived.We need reinforcing cold...
Quoting washingtonian115:
More cold please thank you :).I've been waiting for this type of weather since November and it never came.But nowwwww it's here!!!!.I hope these cold blast can stay longer except for being short lived.We need reinforcing cold...

lol move to the mountains or something if you want cold..
I don't have the fancy stuff at the bottom like that, is that an upgrade?

Quoting SPLbeater:


can you post a still image of day 10?
won't let me do that unless someone else can capture the image
Quoting RitaEvac:
I don't have the fancy stuff at the bottom like that, is that an upgrade?



It's on my Iphone. It's the new WU App...
Quoting charlottefl:


It's on my Iphone. It's the new WU App...


Ok mine is Droid
Quoting RitaEvac:


Ok mine is Droid


I woulda thought they would be the same...
Quoting charlottefl:


I woulda thought they would be the same...


I would think so too
Quoting BahaHurican:






Notice the crowds of people lying around on the beach, swimming, and so on....
that's a heavy wave there!

lol
Quoting RitaEvac:


I would think so too


when did you download it?
Quoting charlottefl:


when did you download it?


just now, had it earlier and looked this way as well.
Quoting BahaHurican:






Notice the crowds of people lying around on the beach, swimming, and so on....
looks like a fall sky the water is warmer than the air
Quoting TomTaylor:
that's a heavy wave there!

lol
Well, considering this is on a heavily "protected" beach, yeah... that's about as big as u'r going to get at that location, mainly because only the NW approach is open enough to the ocean to get any swells at all... now further west, or over on PI [Paradise Island], one may genuinely be able to surf a few.

This does make me wonder how much of the wave action on the California coast and on Hawaii is wind generated / influenced...
Quoting BahaHurican:
Well, considering this is on a heavily "protected" beach, yeah... that's about as big as u'r going to get at that location, mainly because only the NW approach is open enough to the ocean to get any swells at all... now further west, or over on PI [Paradise Island], one may genuinely be able to surf a few.

This does make me wonder how much of the wave action on the California coast and on Hawaii is wind generated / influenced...
All of it is. Even that little tiny wave you took a picture of was created first by the wind blowing across the ocean.

Other things may account for tiny influences on wave production, but winds do just about all the work of creating waves. Things like wave height, wave period, wave direction, bathymetry, tide level, wind speed and wind direction at the coast all help determine what type of wave you will see at the coast, but the waves themselves are created by the wind.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
won't let me do that unless someone else can capture the image


It's on this page.


Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
won't let me do that unless someone else can capture the image


dern..well thats alright. atleast i am aware of the situation thanks to you;D
Quoting TomTaylor:
All of it is. Even that little tiny wave you took a picture of was created first by the wind blowing across the ocean.

Other things may account for tiny influences on wave production, but winds do just about all the work of creating waves. Things like wave height, wave period, wave direction, bathymetry, tide level, wind speed and wind direction at the coast all help determine what type of wave you will see at the coast, but the waves themselves are created by the wind.
OK, so this supports my thinking. I took that particular pic to illustrate not so much the wave as the wind. [This wind has been blowing sand off the beach into the nearby street.] Without that wind, constant at about 15 mph and blowing from the NW as it has been all day, one certainly would not see much in the way of white water at this particular beach. The curve of the island itself, along with the presence of other smaller islands (visible in the background, I think) normally inhibits wave action to more of a gentle roll.

I would imagine waves washing up on CA and HI shores have been impacted by winds over a longer period of time... also gives a simple example of how storm surge could potentially impact a particular area differently depending on the direction from which a TC is approaching and the wind speed...

New clarity on Katrina!
1116. bappit
NEW BLOG!
Quoting BahaHurican:
Well, considering this is on a heavily "protected" beach, yeah... that's about as big as u'r going to get at that location, mainly because only the NW approach is open enough to the ocean to get any swells at all... now further west, or over on PI [Paradise Island], one may genuinely be able to surf a few.

This does make me wonder how much of the wave action on the California coast and on Hawaii is wind generated / influenced...
Quoting BahaHurican:
Well, considering this is on a heavily "protected" beach, yeah... that's about as big as u'r going to get at that location, mainly because only the NW approach is open enough to the ocean to get any swells at all... now further west, or over on PI [Paradise Island], one may genuinely be able to surf a few.

This does make me wonder how much of the wave action on the California coast and on Hawaii is wind generated / influenced...


im not a surfer but a bodyboarder lol...when i take a trip to the coasts of NC, if its quiet everyody is happy but me. they call it "lay back and relax" action, i call it"pathetic quietness that i dont like" lol

the best part is getting clobbered by a large wave:)
1118. pingon
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