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The Wall of Wind: destroying buildings in the cause of science

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:00 PM GMT on December 02, 2010

During my week at the National Hurricane Center this October that I spent as part of their Visiting Scientist Program, I had the opportunity to visit one of the most remarkable engineering efforts used in hurricane research--the International Hurricane Research Center's "Wall of Wind" (WoW) on the campus of Florida International University. As I pulled into the parking lot next to the big metal building that houses the Wall of Wind research lab, I was met by Erik Salna, the Associate Director of the International Hurricane Research Center. He walked me over to their 2-story high "Wall of Wind", which consists of a bank of six 500 horsepower "hot-rod" auto engines with propellers attached, arranged in a box pattern. When the six engines are all fired up, they can generate Category 1 hurricane wind speeds of 80 - 85 mph (not to mention an unholy racket!) Researchers at the Wall of Wind study how full-scale buildings fare under the onslaught of these winds, and in the presence of flying debris and wind-driven rain. Fifteen peer-reviewed journal articles have resulted from WoW research, and changes to the Florida Building Code for 2010 have been recommended by the Technical Advisory Committee at the 2010 Florida Building Code meeting, based on WoW research. It was pretty cool to see how the WoW group tested different shingles, roof slopes, and roof edge and corner designs by wiring the roofs being tested with an elaborate network of pressure transducers. WoW research has shown the importance of protecting your windows with shutters--an open window in a house with a ceiling hatch increases the wind load on the windward side of a gable roof by 45%, greatly increasing the chances of complete roof failure.


Figure 1. Now if I just reach out and flip the switch to my left, my hair will get massively blow-dried! The current 6-fan version of the Wall of Wind (which became operational in 2007) can generate Category 1 hurricane winds of 80 - 85 mph. The reinsurance company Renaissance Re Holdings Ltd provided the funding for the 6-fan Wall of Wind.

Phase 2: the 12-fan Wall of Wind
Last year, Congress thought highly enough of the Wall of Wind's research results to appropriate $1 million to fund a new 12-fan Wall of Wind that will be able to generate wind speeds of 140 mph--Category 4 strength. Additional support is coming from the State of Florida. The new fans are truly massive, and it will be an impressive sight and sound when the new wall goes live. The new wall should greatly aid efforts to engineer new buildings that can withstand the winds of a major hurricane.

One other cool thing the WoW people are doing is sponsoring a Wall of Wind contest for high school students. Each year, local student compete to design a roof structure that fare the best in the Wall of Wind in some engineering category. This year, the kids had to design a roof that would minimize the amount of loose gravel that would fly off a 14x14" test roof. There were some very ingenious entries the kids designed.


Figure 2. The new 12-fan version of the Wall of Wind is currently under construction, and will be able to generate Category 4 hurricane winds of 140 mph when it is completed. Walter Conklin (left) is Laboratory Manager of the Laboratory for Wind Engineering Research, and James Erwin (right) is a research scientist studying hurricane wind damage.

Links
The Wall of Wind website has some links to videos of the Wall in action.

I'll have a new post on Friday.

Jeff Masters

Hurricane

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Hello Dr Masters....

Glad you got us some great stories from your time at the NHC!

Thanks for the update.


Hello Friends, been a while since I stopped by.

Hope you are enjoying your week.

and Glad Hurricane Season is over for us!
Another lucky year for the CONUS!
Big kids, and their big toys :D
Black and Yellow represented last night as UCF beat #17 ranked Gators last night as Marcus Jordon was unstoppable. My 2 schools UCF and FSU have been representing lately!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
I see it is snowing in AnnArbor, Michigan...
Quoting seflagamma:
I see it is snowing in AnnArbor, Michigan...


Looks like snow maybe making it's way to FL next week so laugh now because even S FL will get in the deep freeze next week. Could be ocean effect snow/ice pellets across parts of FL mid to late next week.
THe latest runs of the GFS show a very serious Artic Blast coming all the way thru FL mid next week and the disturbance associated with this cold blast could trigger snow or ice across parts of FL. Below you can see this disturbance across C and N FL so if you live in these place and want snow then this day below could be the day!

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/06/fp0_156.shtml
lucked out this yr (for most) next yr i hope for the same 2012 hurricane season though really worries me. nice the wall of wind.
Thanks Jeff...can I borrow the six gun?
The video says they can already to Cat 3 with the WoW. Dr. Masters only says cat 1??? Was the video just hype and Jeff has the good numbers?
Complete Update





Tropical Cyclone Abele is on the move in the Indian Ocean. I wonder if it will turn into a Category 5 and hit So. Florida??? There might be someone here who knows...
Maybe it will hit during the aforementioned predicited blizzard that will also hit So. Florida...
jeff 9641 how cold does it showing the models for south florida
Hey everyone! I sure hope Thanksgiving treated you right! What are the chances for a postseason TC this year?
We got down to 41 last night here in N. Ft. Myers...a welcome reprieve from the mid to upper 80's with high humidity we've been seeing.
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #13
CYCLONE TROPICAL ABELE (02-20102011)
16:00 PM Réunion December 2 2010
=======================================

At 12:00 AM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Abele (973 hPa) located at 17.2S 88.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 70 knots with gusts of 100 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving east southeast at 11 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T4.5/4.5/D1.0/24H

Hurricane Force Winds
======================
20 NM from the center

Storm Force Winds
===============
35 NM from the center extending up to 40 NM in the southern semi-circle and up to 45 NM in the northeastern quadrant

Gale-Force Winds
======================
60 NM radius from the center extending 95 NM in the eastern semi-circle

Near Gale-Force Winds
=====================
80 NM radius from the center extending up to 110 NM from the center in the southern semi-circle and up to 130 NM in the northeastern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
========================
12 HRS: 18.1S 90.0E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
24 HRS: 19.5S 91.8E - 50 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
48 HRS: 23.2S 94.7E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
72 HRS: 24.8S 96.6E - 30 knots (Depression Extratropicale)

Additional Information
======================

3 hourly average of T number with eye pattern on infrared gives a DT at 4.5-.. 65 knot winds, coherent with an estimate at 4.5 from KNES and PGTW. A good AMSU intensity estimate at 0801 UTC gave 82 knots (1 min).. 75 knots (10 min). The current intensity of 70 knots is a blend of the two previous estimates.

As the system moves in the same direction of the shear, storm relative shear is weaker than the current 20 knots northwesterly shear. Probably around 10 knots (subtract of the storm motion). Wave vapor loop shows excellent outflow in all quadrants especially in the southeastern quadrant where the system interacts with a mid-latitude jet. With still some favorable sea surface temperatures (26-27C), ABELE manages to take the best from its environmental conditions but system is currently leaving the warm waters towards a significantly cooler waters in 24 hours so a weakening trend is expected shortly as he system should be embedded within a stronger west northwesterly shear associated with a marginal oceanic heat content.

Models are in good agreement on the track forecast mainly for the next 2 days. After that and until the end of the forecast period there is some spread as the system should be a remnant low by that time. Extratropical transition is expected near 36-48 hours.
Thanks for sharing this Dr. M! That idea for a high school contest is awesome... would loved to have taken a shot at that!
Another blast of cold air is expected to arrive on Monday. High temperatures will be in the low 70s, but by Monday night the mercury could dip into the 30s across the whole area.

It looks like temperatures will stay well below average through the middle of next week, with highs in the 60s and lows in the 30s Tuesday and Wednesday.

West Palm Beach NewsChannel 5
geoffrey wpb so why does that thing show the 40 not the 30
Quoting Jeff9641:
THe latest runs of the GFS show a very serious Artic Blast coming all the way thru FL mid next week and the disturbance associated with this cold blast could trigger snow or ice across parts of FL. Below you can see this disturbance across C and N FL so if you live in these place and want snow then this day below could be the day!

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/06/fp0_156.shtml


As far as SFL is concerned even in La Nina winters, we can be prone to strong Arctic blasts because there tends to be less of an influence of modified Pacific air and more intrusions of Arctic air into the northern US. When the pattern temporarily shifts (which it always does at least once a winter), this Arctic air can stream south. There have been plenty of warm La Nina winters in South Florida with one or two shots of very cold air (89-90 is one classic example). During El Nino, it is LESS likely to have strong Arctic air masses due to the increase in Pacific influence (last winter was an exception to the usual El Nino winter patter for Florida).

As far as winter precip next week, I seriously doubt it. The models are likely showing some Gulf moisture right along the west coast which is very low level and will probably dry up once the cold air establishees itself over the region. We're still looking at the possibility of freezing temps west of Lake Okeechobee, with 40s over SE Florida.

Takecare, Adrian

hurricane 23 so low 40 for miami
For Miami

that actually wrong because the models show davie fl goinginto the 30
Quoting eddye:
hurricane 23 so low 40 for miami


This Artic Blast maybe under done by the models next week. So sit back and wait as we could very well see those temps trend lower as has been the case with these big Artic Blast the last couple of years.
Quoting eddye:
that actually wrong because the models show davie fl goinginto the 30


Your right because what the models are showing compared to what the Miami news stations are showing are quite a bit lower. Miami offices might want to take a peak at the Euro and GFS.
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Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service New Orleans la
325 am CST Thursday Dec 2 2010


Short term...
the big weather variable for the next few days will be foggy
conditions.

Should see this begin tonight with a light to moderate
fog potential.

Friday night/Sat morning should be a much higher
potential for seeing dense fog.

The next cold front is due in Sat
evening. Not a lot of moisture to work with so we should only see
some shower activity with it.

Not unlike we have seen already for
much of this winter season...another extremely large Rosby wave will develop over the eastern 2/3rds of the country next week.

This will allow a dump of polar air well southward through much of
next week starting Sat night. Some guidance is showing temperatures
struggling to make it into the lower 50s Monday through Friday.

Temperatures will definitely be much cooler than normal but will keep temperatures
reaching at least the middle 50s for much of next week.

Will watch
the strong short waves that rotate through the base of the long
wave trough. The strongest of these will be on Tuesday.

It should be strong enough to produce layer lifting and may produce some light showers during the day. Then more cool air behind it.

Very interesting to see how amplified these upper level features are.
If they continue into the long term...temperatures will remain below normal.
jeff 9641 how cold does it show davie fl at the gfs and does it look like a freeze
Check your Local page here,,the Scientific Discussion will offer some better insight.
"send in the clowns..."
GFS is showing upper 50's and low 60's for highs in Miami mid next week. look below if you don't believe me!

http://weather.cod.edu/loops/gfsUS.sfctemp.html
because jeff is so good at the weather i want 2 know wat the gfs is showing
and how about lows for davie florida jeff 9641
Whats a Jeff ?

Ack,snicker,,,chuckle.
These models are even showing Night time lows in the 20's for North C FL with a highs in the low 50's. Amazing considering we were 87 in Orlando Tuesday.
jeff 9641 buddy i said for davie fl
Quoting eddye:
and how about lows for davie florida jeff 9641


I think your lows could be around 38 to 41 with highs around 63. IMO!
and last but not least west palm beach for high and lows
Quoting Patrap:
Whats a Jeff ?

Ack,snicker,,,chuckle.


How are you doing buddy? Do you like this cold? Anyways good luck to the Saints as it seems they have regained but that swagger from last year.
From The Weather Channel:

Local Text Forecast for
Davie, FL

Dec 2 Today
Mostly sunny. High near 75F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph.
Dec 2 Tonight
Mainly clear skies. Low 52F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.
Dec 3 Tomorrow
Mainly sunny. High 74F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph.
Dec 3 Tomorrow night
Mainly clear early, then a few clouds later on. Low 54F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.
Dec 4 Saturday
Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Dec 5 Sunday
Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the low 50s.
Dec 6 Monday
Abundant sunshine. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the mid 40s.
Dec 7 Tuesday
Sunshine. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the upper 40s.
Dec 8 Wednesday
Plenty of sun. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the low 50s.
Dec 9 Thursday
Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Dec 10 Friday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the low 60s.
Dec 11 Saturday
Partly cloudy. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the low 60s
Quoting eddye:
and last but not least west palm beach for high and lows


Upper 30's to near 40 for lows and 60 for highs mid next week.
Shouldn't "Yakety Sax" be playing?
i hope it gets cold when i go 2 orlando december 18th through the 20th jeff 9641
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
From The Weather Channel:

Local Text Forecast for
Davie, FL

Dec 2 Today
Mostly sunny. High near 75F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph.
Dec 2 Tonight
Mainly clear skies. Low 52F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.
Dec 3 Tomorrow
Mainly sunny. High 74F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph.
Dec 3 Tomorrow night
Mainly clear early, then a few clouds later on. Low 54F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.
Dec 4 Saturday
Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Dec 5 Sunday
Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the low 50s.
Dec 6 Monday
Abundant sunshine. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the mid 40s.
Dec 7 Tuesday
Sunshine. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the upper 40s.
Dec 8 Wednesday
Plenty of sun. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the low 50s.
Dec 9 Thursday
Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Dec 10 Friday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the low 60s.
Dec 11 Saturday
Partly cloudy. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the low 60s


THe GFS is showing different!

http://weather.cod.edu/loops/gfsUS.sfctemp.html
Quoting eddye:
i hope it gets cold when i go 2 orlando december 18th through the 20th jeff 9641


It looks like by then it maybe back near 80 but who knows as Northern Branch is getting very active and we could be seeing some bigtime storms systems down the road.
do u think it will jeff
so wat does the euro show for miami
where did everyone go and jeff
wonder where Floodman is... we could compare the Wall of Wind to the Wall of Sound :D
Quoting eddye:
so wat does the euro show for miami


This website below has all the models you can think of so go to the European model at the 0Z run and loop that run then you can kinda get a feel for just how cold it may get next week.

http://www.dejongonline.com/weather/weathermodel.htm
sorry jeff im in school i cant get it can u tell me wat it shows
Quoting eddye:
sorry jeff im in school i cant get it can u tell me wat it shows


Basically what the GFS is showing!
For those of interest here's the big storm potential coming down the road and people in the eastern US may want to watch this video from Accuweather.com

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/meteomadness/story/42433/video-a-look-at-the-big-daddy-snowstorm-p otential.asp
As Hurricane23 pointed out in his post earlier on this page, in La Nina winters, we can experience temporary pattern changes where major arctic air intrusions can occur. We are seeing this currently with the classic Omega blocking pattern over Greenland and the North Atlantic. It looks as if this blocking ridge will remain in place at least for the next 10 days. This is the classic set-up for major arctic air intrusions to sink south across most of the Eastern 2/3 of the CONUS as a deep upper trough will anchor over the region during this time, as well as the bitter cold wave over most of Europe will continue also next week.

Model guidance runs are hinting at the possibility of seeing hard freezes over North Florida and the Florida panhandle regions next week. Freezing temps may very well be possible as far south as interior South Central Florida peninsula to just north of Lake Okeechobee. As we head into the weekend, hopefully there will be more to fine tune from the models on what we may be dealing with possibly next week.

BTW, I registered a mornintg low of 27 degrees at my location here in Jax, the coldest so far this early season.
omg nobody writing
Quoting unf97:
As Hurricane23 pointed out in his post earlier on this page, in La Nina winters, we can experience temporary pattern changes where major arctic air intrusions can occur. We are seeing this currently with the classic Omega blocking pattern over Greenland and the North Atlantic. It looks as if this blocking ridge will remain in place at least for the next 10 days. This is the classic set-up for major arctic air intrusions to sink south across most of the Eastern 2/3 of the CONUS as a deep upper trough will anchor over the region during this time, as well as the bitter cold wave over most of Europe will continue also next week.

Model guidance runs are hinting at the possibility of seeing hard freezes over North Florida and the Florida panhandle regions next week. Freezing temps may very well be possible as far south as interior South Central Florida peninsula to just north of Lake Okeechobee. As we head into the weekend, hopefully there will be more to fine tune from the models on what we may be dealing with possibly next week.

BTW, I registered a mornintg low of 27 degrees at my location here in Jax, the coldest so far this early season.
This could pull a lot of cold air down south...
Quoting hydrus:
This could pull a lot of cold air down south...


Yeah, that set-up no doubt would bring down a mother load of arctic air across all of the Eastern CONUS.
I guess I'm the only one that notices... closed low over Panama. The "season" is over but it's not impossible. The GFS had been developing a storm 2 weeks out a few weeks ago so... the pattern still favors it.
Link
Quoting biff4ugo:
The video says they can already to Cat 3 with the WoW. Dr. Masters only says cat 1??? Was the video just hype and Jeff has the good numbers?


The video is of a 2-fan system that they no longer have. I was told the current 6-fan wall can only do 90 - 95 mph winds.

Jeff Masters
All this talk of winter temperatures from the Central and Southern Floridians makes me want to pitch in with are forecast up in the Western Panhandle. It will get interesting the Monday after next if the current forecast holds up here. Highs anywhere from the mid 40s to mid 50s from an arrangement of models with the lows at 33 or lower with rain on all days involved in the forecast. I guess will see if the models moderate from the initial forecast points.
Quoting Levi32:
Good morning all.

A Peek at the 2011 Hurricane Season


Great Video! I also heard that this is the first time in history the US went 5 years without a major hurricane affecting the US. Many of the big gun meteorologist said the same thing you said in your video. No doubt the SE US maybe in trouble next year.
Quoting Grecojdw:
All this talk of winter temperatures from the Central and Southern Floridians makes me want to pitch in with are forecast up in the Western Panhandle. It will get interesting the Monday after next if the current forecast holds up here. Highs anywhere from the mid 40s to mid 50s from an arrangement of models with the lows at 33 or lower with rain on all days involved in the forecast. I guess will see if the models moderate from the initial forecast points.


You might want to look at post # 54 because the NAO will shoot up come the middle of Dec. allowing a succession of big storms across the eastern US. It is looking like many across the east could see a white Christmas from NC MTS north.
Quoting Jeff9641:


You might want to look at post # 54 because the NAO will shoot up come the middle of Dec. allowing a succession of big storms across the eastern US. It is looking like many across the east could see a white Christmas from NC MTS north.



Yes up there, but from living my whole life down in the Panhandle of Florida we always see these massive potentials only to moderate and weaken in the extreme South while the areas you mentioned (NC Mts and North) get walloped. That is what I mean by moderate. It will get really cold in the Panhandle of Florida indeed, but are these storms really going to be strong enough to cause mischief in N.Florida?
Quoting winter123:
I guess I'm the only one that notices... closed low over Panama. The "season" is over but it's not impossible. The GFS had been developing a storm 2 weeks out a few weeks ago so... the pattern still favors it.
Link


I noticed it a couple of days ago but it hasn't had much organization until today. Only problem is that the circulation is half way over land, so it would have to move north with less shear; then development would likely occur. The trough is also providing some outflow, but it needs an anti-cyclone to survive. No one says anything because NHC doesn't update it's "tropical cyclone formation" chart after November 30th; at which point some people believe that cyclones can no longer form.

NASA making a BIG announcement in less than 10 mins regarding extraterrestreal (sp?) life! I hope is more than microbes on mars even tho that'd be pretty cool!
Excerpt from the Miami NWS Forecast Discussion released a few minutes ago:

"IN THE EXTENDED PERIOD SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THINGS ARE LOOKING A
LITTLE UN-SOUTH FLORIDA LIKE. THE AFOREMENTIONED CUT OFF LOW WILL OF
COURSE CONTINUE THE NW FLOW ALOFT AND ANOTHER COLD FRONT WILL MOVE
ACROSS THE REGION ON SUNDAY WHICH REINFORCES THE COOL AIR ALREADY IN
PLACE. THEN A STRONG SHORT WAVE TROUGH OVER SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA
WILL DIVE SOUTH INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS EARLY NEXT WEEK AND WITH THE
MAIN LOW STILL IN PLACE OVER NEW ENGLAND WILL PLUNGE ALL OF THE
WAY INTO THE FL PENINSULA BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL
SET THE STAGE FOR THE COLDEST AIRMASS FOR THIS SEASON THUS FAR AND
POSSIBLY NEAR SOME RECORD LOW MINIMUMS FOR AT LEAST A PORTION OF
THE AREA. IF THE MODEL TRENDS CONTINUE, S FLA COULD EXPERIENCE A
WIDESPREAD FREEZE EVENT AROUND WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY MORNINGS OF
NEXT WEEK.
THE LATEST 00Z AND 12Z MEX GUIDANCE IS ONLY SHOWING MID
30S FOR THE NORTHERN ZONES AND 40S ELSEWHERE BUT CONSIDERING THIS
IS IN THE FAR EXTENDED AND INDICATING TEMPERATURE ANOMALIES
RUNNING MORE THAN 15 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL DICTATES THAT MODEL RUNS
WILL LOWER THESE VALUES AS TIME PROGRESSES. THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE
BEEN CONSISTENT IN SHOWING THE PATTERN SETTING UP BUT HAVE
DIFFERED IN THE TIMING AND SEVERITY OF THE ARCTIC COLD OUTBREAK.
HOWEVER, A FREEZE OUTLOOK MAY BE NECESSARY WITH LATER FORECAST
RUNS IF THESE TRENDS CONTINUE AND MORE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN MODEL
RUNS TAKES SHAPE."

Forecast at a Glance for Miami:

NWS of Melbourne

MON-THU...DEEP TROUGH OVER THE NORTHEAST U.S. REMAINS ENTRENCHED
WITH NORTH FLOW PROGGED TO CONTINUE. THE GFS MODEL TREND HAS BEEN
COLDER
SO HAVE NOT DEVIATED MUCH FROM MEX GUIDANCE WITH HAS TEMPS
10-15 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL. BREEZY AT TIMES SO EXPECT WIND CHILLS
TO BE AN ISSUE. IT IS TOO FAR OFF TO SAY WHETHER A PORTION OF THE
AREA WILL EXPERIENCE AN ADVECTION FREEZE THOUGH
Here is the NWS Jacksonville, FL AFD Long Range forecast (12/5/10 - 12/9/10)

LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY
MODEL CONSENSUS CONTINUES TO POINT TO AN UNUSUALLY COLD PATTERN
FOR EARLY DECEMBER. LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EAST COAST WILL ALLOW
COLD CANADIAN AIR TO FUNNEL INTO THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA. LATEST
GFS INDICATES 1000-850 THICKNESSES OF 1270 METERS WITH 850MB TEMPS
OF -6C WEDNESDAY MORNING WHICH WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY LEAD TO RECORD
SETTING COLD TEMPERATURES. THE CURRENT FORECAST WILL FEATURE HIGHS
IN THE 50S AND LOWS IN THE 20S (AWAY FROM THE COAST) FOR A 3 TO 4
DAY STRETCH NEXT WEEK.


Quoting Minnemike:
wonder where Floodman is... we could compare the Wall of Wind to the Wall of Sound :D
Got to hear the "Wall of Sound" at Filmore East in '71. I left a changed man.
Quoting unf97:
Here is the NWS Jacksonville, FL AFD Long Range forecast (12/5/10 - 12/9/10)

LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY
MODEL CONSENSUS CONTINUES TO POINT TO AN UNUSUALLY COLD PATTERN
FOR EARLY DECEMBER. LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EAST COAST WILL ALLOW
COLD CANADIAN AIR TO FUNNEL INTO THE LOCAL FORECAST AREA. LATEST
GFS INDICATES 1000-850 THICKNESSES OF 1270 METERS WITH 850MB TEMPS
OF -6C WEDNESDAY MORNING WHICH WOULD UNDOUBTEDLY LEAD TO RECORD
SETTING COLD TEMPERATURES. THE CURRENT FORECAST WILL FEATURE HIGHS
IN THE 50S AND LOWS IN THE 20S (AWAY FROM THE COAST) FOR A 3 TO 4
DAY STRETCH NEXT WEEK.


The ECMWF has cold weather for the south...Link
76. P451
jeff 9641 wat does the new gfs show for miami
Quoting hydrus:
The ECMWF has cold weather for the south...Link
And the CMC has an Arctic blast waiting in the wings..Link
High in Orlando of 53 next Thursday with a low of 32 and that's downtown up by me I will probably see temps in the 20's for lows maybe for 3 nights in a row. I sure hope West Palm Beach and Miami offices lowered there numbers because right now their posting much higher numbers than what the models are saying.
wat does the new gfs show for miami
Freezing temps for an extended period with very dry conditions in place means a very dangerous fire situation. We really need rain now that the cold dry wx is here.
jeff 9641 tell me about the latest gfs
Models are showing 38 to 41 in the Miami area for lows next week with freezing temps 5 to 7 miles inland. Highs will only get into the low 60's come mid week.
jeff 9641 is west palm beach the same thing as miami
Hi all.

Saw these storm pics and wanted to share...

Link

Quoting Jeff9641:
High in Orlando of 53 next Thursday with a low of 32 and that's downtown up by me I will probably see temps in the 20's for lows maybe for 3 nights in a row. I sure hope West Palm Beach and Miami offices lowered there numbers because right now their posting much higher numbers than what the models are saying.


Well, just like hurricane season, maybe they don't trust the models. When did the models become so accurate that you just believe what they are putting out. I must have missed that moment in time.
they calling for snow here on the COAST this weekend in wilmington and next week setting up to be real interesting for us as well..

.SHORT TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT/...
AS OF 3 PM THURSDAY...THE PRIMARY FEATURE FOR THE SHORT TERM WILL BE
THE STRONG SHORTWAVE MOVING ACROSS THE AREA LATE SATURDAY AND EARLY
SUNDAY. UNTIL THEN...GENERALLY WEAK HIGH PRESSURE WILL PREVAIL. BOTH
THE GFS AND NAM HAVE TRENDED TOWARD A SLIGHTLY STRONGER SOLUTION FOR
THE SHORTWAVE AND SURFACE LOW MOVING THROUGH THE AREA LATE SATURDAY
AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. THERE ARE ENOUGH DIFFERENCES IN THE MODELS
THAT THERE ARE QUESTIONS REGARDING WHERE PRECIPITATION MAY FALL. FOR
NOW...HAVE INCLUDED A CHANCE TO SLIGHT CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN
SATURDAY NIGHT AS GUIDANCE IS WARM ENOUGH FOR A LIGHT BUT COLD
RAIN. HOWEVER...THERE EXISTS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THIS SYSTEM COULD
BE VIGOROUS ENOUGH TO RESULT IN SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER
SATURDAY NIGHT AS PRECIPITATION RATES COOL THE COLUMN BELOW THE
CLOUD LAYER.

For West Palm Beach

Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #14
CYCLONE TROPICAL ABELE (02-20102011)
22:00 PM Réunion December 2 2010
=======================================

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Abele (975 hPa) located at 17.6S 89.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 65 knots with gusts of 90 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving east southeast at 10 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T4.0/4.5/W0.5/6H

Hurricane Force Winds
======================
20 NM from the center

Storm Force Winds
===============
35 NM from the center extending up to 40 NM in the southern semi-circle and up to 45 NM in the northeastern quadrant

Gale-Force Winds
======================
60 NM radius from the center extending 95 NM in the eastern semi-circle

Near Gale-Force Winds
=====================
80 NM radius from the center extending up to 120 NM from the center in the southern semi-circle and up to 130 NM in the northeastern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
========================
12 HRS: 18.7S 91.0E - 50 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
24 HRS: 20.4S 92.8E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
48 HRS: 24.0S 95.0E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)
72 HRS: 24.9S 97.3E - 25 knots (Depression Extratropicale)

Additional Information
======================

On sea surface temperatures lower than 26C, system is now suffering due to lack of oceanic heat content. System is expected to keep on weakening as it undergoes an increasing westerly wind shear associated with marginal energetic potential.

Models are in good agreement on the track forecast mainly for the next 2 days. After that and until the end of forecast period, there is some spread as the system should be a remnant low by that time.

Extratropical transition is expected to be ended on and after 60 hours.
2011 Hurricane Predictions
Check out what my latest predictions for the upcoming hurricane season are...
Quoting SQUAWK:


Well, just like hurricane season, maybe they don't trust the models. When did the models become so accurate that you just believe what they are putting out. I must have missed that moment in time.
Here,s cold..The Winter of 1899....Winter weather

On February 12, snow started falling from Fort Myers and Tampa in Florida west towards New Orleans. Blizzard conditions were reported north of Tampa along the west coast of Florida due to ocean-effect snow. The storm crossed the Florida peninsula and intensified as it rapidly moved up the Eastern United States. High Point, North Carolina recorded 10-12" (25-30 cm) of snow, and temperatures as low as 10 F (%u221212 C) on the 11th, 5 F (%u221215 C) on the 13th, and 3 F (%u221216 C) on the 14th. It was said to be the coldest weather known to the oldest inhabitants. Washington, D.C. recorded its all-time record single snowfall of 20.5 inches (52 cm), though it was later broken. Cape May, New Jersey recorded 34 inches (86 cm), which is the highest single storm snowfall total ever in New Jersey, in what is normally the least-snowy part of the state.

The port of New Orleans was completely iced over by February 13, with ice floes reportedly floating out of the Mississippi River into the Gulf of Mexico. On February 14 the city experienced its coldest ever Mardi Gras reading of 22F. The Krewe of Rex Parade was delayed while snow was removed from the route.[1]

Also on February 14, the low temperature in Miami was 29 F (%u22122 C), the second-coldest (and the first sub-freezing) temperature that the city has ever recorded.

North of the Mid-Atlantic region, the storm weakened somewhat, but it was still a very powerful blizzard. New York's Central Park recorded 16 inches (41 cm), which at the time was its third-biggest snowfall, but many surrounding areas recorded 2-3 feet (60 to 90 cm), as did most of New England.

There are even Cuban reports (made by the U.S. Weather Bureau, as Cuba was a U.S. territory at the time) that the country experienced hard frost which killed or damaged many crops. This was despite the cold air first having to cross the Florida Strait and its warm Gulf Stream waters. The blizzard of 1899 is referred to as "The Snow King".

The only other cold wave of such severity in the Southeast was the 1985 Florida freeze, which destroyed the citrus groves in central Florida, and forced the industry into south Florida.
[edit] References

* Kocin, Paul J.; Weiss, Alan D.; Wagner, Joseph J. (1988), "The Great Arctic Outbreak and East Coast Blizzard of February 1899",''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''with ice floes reportedly floating out of the Mississippi River into the Gulf of Mexico. lol
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

What happened to the orange!!?
Blow me down those fans are huge! I've wondered how strong a wind would have to be to knock me down. It would be interesting to see what category knocked me over.
Quoting DoverWxwatchter:
Blow me down those fans are huge! I've wondered how strong a wind would have to be to knock me down. It would be interesting to see what category knocked me over.

Well Hurricane Ike(110 MPH Category 2) Knocked over Mike Bettes with gusts of 105 to 115 MPH
I remember that. I wonder how much difference wet ground makes, or how much difference standing on grass or asphalt/concrete makes when it is wet or dry.
Quoting ncstorm:
they calling for snow here on the COAST this weekend in wilmington


OMG, the dramatizing! "THERE EXISTS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THIS SYSTEM COULD BE VIGOROUS ENOUGH TO RESULT IN SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER" is not calling for snow. It's stating that snow is possible, given the proper atmospheric conditions.

"Even IF it happens (only 30% POP), you won't be sledding (very little QPF with this system).
When you think about it, snow is surprisingly uncommon in the upper south and mid Atlantic during December---considering that December is quite a bit colder than March on average and snow storms in March are not rare.   The pre-Christmas snow last year was an unprecedented event in itself, although somewhat forgotten after the February snowmageddon.
Heh, in central GA we're supposed to hit 23 tonight with consistent low to mid 20's next week, and December just started. Maybe we'll hit the teens by January. >.>
Quoting Vincent4989:

What happened to the orange!!?


Just a guess I my part... it froze?
It got to 30 degrees in my backyard this AM. I put out some apple juice and it became slushy. My 6 year old drank it for breakfast and thought it was so cool.
Citrus growers water the trees when a freeze is expected. The ice insulates the tree and helps protect it from the cold. I have pictures like that from the grove outside my living room window.

46 currently in the panhandle of Florida with a low of 31 tonight. Wearing lots of layers up here. The heater stopped working:o
Quoting Orcasystems:


Just a guess I my part... it froze?


I seriously doubt an ice storm covered that orange. More likely, it was sprayed to protect it from freezing. They do that to peaches and strawberries here in NC.
Still low 50s for highs and low 30s for lows with rain each day a week ahead of time in the Panhandle of Florida. I wonder if it modifies it will dash my hopes once again:o
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


I seriously doubt an ice storm covered that orange. More likely, it was sprayed to protect it from freezing. They do that to peaches and strawberries here in NC.
it was sprayed to protect it from freezing. lol...I know they do that very thing,,,Still sounds funny..
A little citrus freeze protection info:

http://www.flcitrusmutual.com/news/freeze.aspx
Quoting Vincent4989:

What happened to the orange!!?
ICE COATING AFTER OVERNIGHT SPRAYING TO PROTECT THE FRUIT FROM FREEZING MOST ORANGES IRONICLY ARE MOSTLY USED FOR FROZEN CONCETRATED JUICE AS IT NORMMALLY CANNOT BE SOLD ON SHELVES BECAUSE OF COLD WEATHER SOFTNESS THAT OCCURS IN COLD WEATHER EVENTS
sorry for caps did not check caplocks
Keep, that picture looks like an impressionist had some fun with fruit. Great pic.

It's 25 degrees out. I could move somewhere warmer but if I give up my property now, I won't be able to make a fortune when global warming makes our place perfect for the retirees.
its 28.6 here with a chill of 22.7
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #15
FORTE TEMPETE TROPICALE ABELE (02-20102011)
4:00 AM Réunion December 3 2010
=======================================

At 0:00 AM UTC, Severe Tropical Storm Abele (987 hPa) located at 18.4S 90.2E has 10 minute sustained winds of 50 knots with gusts of 85 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southeast at 10 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.5/W1.5/12H

Forecast and Intensity
========================
12 HRS: 20.2S 92.0E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
24 HRS: 21.8S 93.3E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)
48 HRS: 24.4S 95.4E - 30 knots (Depression Extratropicale)
72 HRS: 24.4S 98.6E - 25 knots (Depression Extratropicale)

Additional Information
======================

Northwesterly wind shear is now obvious on multispectral satellite imagery. System is expected to keep on weakening as it undergoes an increasing westerly wind shear associated with marginal ocean heat content. Extratropical transition is expected to be ended on and after 60 hrs.

This system has crossed the eastern boundary of our area of responsibility. The next tropical cyclone bulletins will be issued at 0600 AM UTC by the Australian Bureau of Meteorology Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Perth.
OK, so here is my idea. Global warming will melt a lot of water, raising ocean levels again. That should make it like back in the Cretaceous period, where the middle of the continent is under water. That will put Lake Superior within easy distance to warm water/beachfront property? I can't lose. Time to start buying property in Minnesota.


Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
its 28.6 here with a chill of 22.7



It's 57.4 here, heading for a low around 40. The globe must be cooling!!

S. flag:on.

Quoting PensacolaDoug:


T=DP and no rain? That's not fair.
118. DDR
Good evening all
It rained all day in T&T today
Looks like its about to rain whole night.
Radar...Link
Quoting DDR:
Good evening all
It rained all day in T&T today
Looks like its about to rain whole night.
Radar...Link


Hello. So that's where all the rain is. Send it northwest, please.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Hello. So that's where all the rain is. Send it northwest, please.


Seconded! October and November were as dry as I can recall, here. Fire danger is climbing, daily.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Seconded! October and November were as dry as I can recall, here. Fire danger is climbing, daily.
maybe i should refer to ya as the desert se
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Seconded! October and November were as dry as I can recall, here. Fire danger is climbing, daily.


Latest, out today. Getting worse.


getting chilly now
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
maybe i should refer to ya as the desert se


Thanks to the lack of tropical moisture. Good that there were no storms, and bad that there were no storms.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
maybe i should refer to ya as the desert se


LOL. Nice.

My immediate area is all white sugar sand, so any moisture goes away very quickly. On the plus side, no flooding issues.
PSL, according to my map, you won't have to worry about drought. Thought you should know.
Quoting SuperYooper:
PSL, according to my map, you won't have to worry about drought. Thought you should know.


Thanks! Bring on the rain. I'll be ecstatic, if that pans out. We're about 17 inches under normal for the year, by my measurements.
yep very dry in the panhandle of FL :(
Hi All,
Record Report
Statement as of 10:25 am EST on December 2, 2010
... Record low seasonal precipitation for Daytona Beach...
A new seasonal record low precipitation value of 4.62 inches was observed for the climatological autumn season at Daytona Beach. The previous record for the season was 5.37 inches, set in 1925.



Quoting FLPandhandleJG:
yep very dry in the panhandle of FL :(


Not a bad idea to leave a never empty bowl of water out for the critters.
By the looks of it nuthin happenen any time soon.


Dang, I guess last night's excitement was draining for the folk usually here.

I'm within a hairsbreadth of either, posting a song, or a movie line. Pick your poison.

Quoting Chicklit:
Hi All,
Record Report
Statement as of 10:25 am EST on December 2, 2010
... Record low seasonal precipitation for Daytona Beach...
A new seasonal record low precipitation value of 4.62 inches was observed for the climatological autumn season at Daytona Beach. The previous record for the season was 5.37 inches, set in 1925.



That's really arid.  Does Florida get many fires in the winter when it's dry or is that a warm season thing?
Are any of the reporting sites down there set up for a potential driest recorded year?
Quoting DoverWxwatchter:

That's really arid.  Does Florida get many fires in the winter when it's dry or is that a warm season thing?


Lightning sparks a preponderance of our wildfires. This usually occurs in the spring, after a long dry spell.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Dang, I guess last night's excitement was draining for the folk usually here.

I'm within a hairsbreadth of either, posting a song, or a movie line. Pick your poison.


My imaginary friend thinks you all have serious problems
Quoting Orcasystems:


My imaginary friend thinks you have have serious problems



Multi-level humor. LOL

How's the golf game?
Quoting Patrap:
Doom.

I smell doom.



In honor of the Homertars: We are all DOOM.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Multi-level humor. LOL

How's the golf game?


Ummm wet?
Actually itsa just Chilly here.

The Doom I smelled was the Vacuum Burning up a carpet thread in da motor.

Current Conditions

Mid City Station, New Orleans, Louisiana (PWS)
Updated: 1 sec ago
Clear
46.3 °F
Clear
Windchill: 46 °F
Humidity: 70%
Dew Point: 37 °F
Wind: 0.0 mph
Wind Gust: 0.0 mph
Pressure: 30.29 in (Rising)
Visibility: 10.0 miles
UV: 0 out of 16
Pollen: 2.90 out of 12
Pollen Forecast new!
Clouds:
Clear -
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 25 ft

Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Thanks! Bring on the rain. I'll be ecstatic, if that pans out. We're about 17 inches under normal for the year, by my measurements.


This is for you

Semi frigid from da Local Boyz tonight outta NOLA NWS


542
fxus64 klix 030127
afdlix


Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service New Orleans la
727 PM CST Thursday Dec 2 2010


Long term...


Heading into the extended period...a much colder pattern looks to set up across the eastern half of the nation.

The initial setup
for this event will be a shortwave trough digging into the Great Lakes states on Saturday. This trough will force a cold front through the forecast area Saturday night.

At the same time...a
strong upper level low over southeast Canada will deepen and dig
south and east into New England.

As this upper level
deepens...cold air from the Canadian plains will be drawn southward across the Continental U.S.. this colder airmass should spread into
the forecast area on Sunday and remain in place through the end of
the workweek.

Initially...temperatures will drop back into the
middle 50s for highs with lows dropping to around freezing over the Northshore.
However...another short wave impulse will dive
south through the area on Tuesday on the back side of the strong upper level low over the northeast. The associated cold front will pass through the County Warning Area on Tuesday.
There may be enough moisture aloft associated with the trough axis to squeeze out a few showers
on Tuesday.
However...any precipitation will be very limited.

I have to link it, embed disabled.

Spider-pig, Spider-pig.....



Link
Quoting Patrap:
Atlantic Ocean View (Updated ~3 hours)






YO! Hey, Pat! How's it.... going?

Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Lightning sparks a preponderance of our wildfires. This usually occurs in the spring, after a long dry spell.
I heard about a lot of wildfires in Florida back in 98 I believe during a hot dry summer.  Hope some rain comes Florida way soon and keeps the risk down.
Quoting Grothar:


This is for you




Thank you, my friend! Great tune.
Sup Grothar,..

..chilling and walking off Turkey week.


Another trip around SOL almost done.

Life is Good,hope yers iz as well.
This guy looks eerily familiar!!!!

Quoting DoverWxwatchter:

I heard about a lot of wildfires in Florida back in 98 I believe during a hot dry summer.  Hope some rain comes Florida way soon and keeps the risk down.



Thank you.

You are correct, 98 was a really bad year. Scars are still evident, even now. Slabs, where homes stood, some can be seen traveling I95. PSL had quite an outbreak of fire, many homes burned.
Quoting Patrap:
Sup Grothar,..

..chilling and walking off Turkey week.


Another trip around SOL almost done.

Life is Good,hope yers iz as well.


So far, so good! Hope we all have a good year. At least I'm still breathing.
Wait till video Live blogging comes to the Main here,.

We can fuss and jaw jack face to face.

Wouldnt that be cool?


ACK!...

34 thumbnails and the noise would be deafening.

Mute,ignore,BANN,,etc,etc,etc..

Quoting Orcasystems:


Ummm wet?



Bring on the driver with the "carry" shaft.

Lift, clean and place?
Quoting Grothar:
This guy looks eerily familiar!!!!



He is Dr. Phil Klotzbach from Colorado State U. He's pretty much who is leading hurricane predictions within Dr. Gray's group.
Quoting Patrap:
Wait till video Live blogging comes to the Main here,.

We can fuss and jaw jack face to face.

Wouldnt that be cool?


ACK!...

34 thumbnails and the noise would be deafening.

Mute,ignore,BANN,,etc,etc,etc..



Will they have a "SHUT YOUR FACE" button?

Boy, that would be something.
Quoting Tango01:


He is Dr. Phil Klotzbach from Colorado State U. He's pretty much who is leading hurricane predictions within Dr. Gray's group.


Yeah, I sort of figured that out when I keyed in 'Dr. Klotzbach' on Youtube to post this. I think you missed the point. j/k


Endless possibilities. LMAO.

I will have to ruminate a bit.
Hey Orca, you still floating around?
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Bring on the driver with the "carry" shaft.

Lift, clean and place?


Since it looks like it is just us, here is another for you and all of Florida


Quoting Grothar:


Yeah, I sort of figured that out when I keyed in 'Dr. Klotzbach' on Youtube to post this. I think you missed the point. j/k


yes, I think I did miss it.
Quoting Tango01:


yes, I think I did miss it.


It's OK. It was just a little private humor. No one is on anyway. LOL
Quoting Patrap:
Wait till video Live blogging comes to the Main here,.

We can fuss and jaw jack face to face.

Wouldnt that be cool?


ACK!...

34 thumbnails and the noise would be deafening.

Mute,ignore,BANN,,etc,etc,etc..




There'll be a WHOLE lot of "poofin'" goin' on!
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



There'll be a WHOLE lot of "poofin'" goin' on!


The worse part is we'll have to comb our hair.
I think everyone is asleep.
Quoting Grothar:
I think everyone is asleep.



Not yet, just conversing elsewhere for a bit. I'll trot out a tune, momentarily.
Crap, disregard that one. Audio is messed up.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


You certainly have an eye for the aesthetic. I heard it just fine.
Quoting Grothar:


You certainly have an eye for the aesthetic. I heard it just fine.


I tried to edit the post, it failed, so I replaced it. What was there had wind noise, and someone's child in the background.


BTW, thanks for the rain tunes. Is it as dry in your area?
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


I tried to edit the post, it failed, so I replaced it. What was there had wind noise, and someone's child in the background.


BTW, thanks for the rain tunes. Is it as dry in your area?


Since I leave right near the ocean, we hardly get any rain. When the storms move in from the west, they break up as soon as they hit the coast. I believe it is the driest season in Broward in many years. Yes, extremely dry.
Quoting Grothar:


Since I leave right near the ocean, we hardly get any rain. When the storms move in from the west, they break up as soon as they hit the coast. I believe it is the driest season in Broward in many years. Yes, extremely dry.



It's been a strange year for weather in FL, without a doubt.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


That song has a very special meaning for me. Right when I first entered the army. ( You sure you don't know me?)
Quoting Grothar:


That song has a very special meaning for me. Right when I first entered the army. ( You sure you don't know me?)


I truly would like to say aye.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


I truly would like to say aye.


Since it is almost 12:30, I think this might be appropriate

Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



It's been a strange year for weather in FL, without a doubt.


BTW,did you catch post 161?
Quoting Grothar:


BTW,did you catch post 161?


I did, a great rendition. Very cool.

I'll listen to your last clip before another post.



Sweet!

A sad day indeed! This is a personal favorite.



Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Sweet!

A sad day indeed! This is a personal favorite.





Not to be personal, but you are not old enough to really remember that day, are you?????

Quoting Grothar:


Not to be personal, but you are not old enough to really remember that day, are you?????



Unmasked! No, I am not quite that old. It happened a bit before I was brought into the world. Early 60's, for me.
Quoting Grothar:


Not to be personal, but you are not old enough to really remember that day, are you?????



I was about to be a teen - a bit too young to care at the time.
Losin your job and it makes your blood boil
Can't even go to the beach, it's covered in oil
ya turn on the tube, what do get?
Same old Obama BP bulls...t
So ya grab the remote, change the channel
that don't help, it's just another scandal
ya can't run, can't hide, can't get away
cause it's the same sh#t, different day..


From the song,
"Same Sh#t, Different Day"
On ITUNEs
This turned out to be one of my faves. Was prob. one of my first slow dances.
My 1st slow dance was at Seville Quarter in Pensacola, prolly 1973. Eagles, "Best of my Love".
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Unmasked! No, I am not quite that old. It happened a bit before I was brought into the world. Early 60's, for me.


What do you mean, not quite that old. I remember that day very well. LOL
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Lightning sparks a preponderance of our wildfires. This usually occurs in the spring, after a long dry spell.


WOTD! Congrats.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


I was about to be a teen - a bit too young to care at the time.


hydrus will have fun with that one. He found someone older than I. Be careful he can be ruthless. LOL
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Losin your job and it makes your blood boil
Can't even go to the beach, it's covered in oil
ya turn on the tube, what do get?
Same old Obama BP bulls...t
So ya grab the remote, change the channel
that don't help, it's just another scandal
ya can't run, can't hide, can't get away
cause it's the same sh#t, different day..


From the song,
"Same Sh#t, Different
Day"
On ITUNEs


Sounds like Kid Rock.
RE: 187


Girl was kinda homely tho...
Quoting Grothar:


What do you mean, not quite that old. I remember that day very well. LOL


LOL
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
My 1st slow dance was at Seville Quarter in Pensacola, prolly 1973. Eagles, "Best of my Love".


My first slow dance was to 'Unchained Melody' by Al Hibler in 1955. I'll never forget it.
Quoting Grothar:


hydrus will have fun with that one. He found someone older than I. Be careful he can be ruthless. LOL


Oops - maybe he won't catch it. No matter, I can handle friendly insults. :-)
Quoting Grothar:


My first slow dance was to 'Unchained Melody' by Al Hibler in 1955. I'll never forget it.


Wait a minute, here. If you're younger than me, that means you were pretty darned young to be dancin' with a chick.
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
RE: 187


Girl was kinda homely tho...


OOH. Cold!
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


WOTD! Congrats.



Thanks! I'll have to add space. LOL
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Thanks! I'll have to add space. LOL


You may need 2 accounts, if you keep it up.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Wait a minute, here. If you're younger than me, that means you were pretty darned young to be dancin' with a chick.


Not by much! LOL I was an early bloomer!
Quoting Grothar:


Not by much! LOL I was an early bloomer!


Hopefully the girl was too
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Sounds like Kid Rock.



It's one of my tunes. Available on ITUNES.
I make 70 cents whenever one of my tunes is downloaded.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Oops - maybe he won't catch it. No matter, I can handle friendly insults. :-)


Ah, he is a champ about it. He gets some good laughs at my expense. I get a kick out of it.
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



It's one of my tunes. Available on ITUNES.
I make 70 cents whenever one of my tunes is downloaded.


That rocks.
Quoting Grothar:


Ah, he is a champ about it. He gets some good laughs at my expense. I get a kick out of it.


I do too, he's pretty funny.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


You may need 2 accounts, if you keep it up.



I'll send you the numbered account destination.

(although, I cannot hide from the Grillin')

Hello Dear.

That ought to bring a chuckle, later.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Hopefully the girl was too


Let's just say I know just how far to go on the blog. (smiles quietly)

I had 8 older brothers and sisters. I think one matures much faster with older siblings. Observation and imitation are great learning tools.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



I'll send you the numbered account destination.

(although, I cannot hide from the Grillin')

Hello Dear.

That ought to bring a chuckle, later.


10-4. I think we need a Animated Emoticon OTD award. I nominate myself for today's.
Quoting Grothar:


I think one matures much faster with older siblings. Observation and imitation are great learning tools.


I am the eldest of 3. Guess that's why I still feel like a kid ;-)
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


10-4. I think we need a Animated Emoticon OTD award. I nominate myself for today's.


I'd vote for that one. Very fitting.
Quoting Grothar:


I'd vote for that one. Very fitting.



Agreed. That was nice!
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Agreed. That was nice!


Thanksya both. With that, I leave you with this

Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


I am the eldest of 3. Guess that's why I still feel like a kid ;-)


Once when my mother was about 96, she was staying with us and I had fallen asleep on the couch. She used a wheelchair a lot then and I could hear this little squeek and felt a blanket going over me. I never opened my eyes. I guess we feel the same about our own. No matter how old they are we still see them as kids. Funny how some things stick in your mind.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Thanksya both. With that, I leave you with this



Love that tune.

Ah, the days of tuning your own axe, onstage. Bands today have so many instruments, I believe that to be a lost art.
Quoting Grothar:


Once when my mother was about 96, she was staying with us and I had fallen asleep on the couch. She used a wheelchair a lot then and I could hear this little squeek and felt a blanket going over me. I never opened my eyes. I guess we feel the same about our own. No matter how old they are we still see them as kids. Funny how some things stick in your mind.


A nice image. You have a way. Kudos.


Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


A nice image. You have a way. Kudos.




I don't like to over compliment, because sometimes it sounds a little trite, but you should have been a casting director or in the visual arts. You have an incredible knack of finding an appropriate and fitting visual for a particular moment. That is an art my friend; a true artists touch. I hit it by luck sometimes, but never by design. That particular neuron is missing in me. Two Kudi for you. LOL (never knew the plural for Kudos)



Good night, all. Once again, it was a great time here. Thank you! Catch ya on the 'morrow.
Quoting Grothar:


I don't like to over compliment, because sometimes it sounds a little trite, but you should have been a casting director or in the visual arts. You have an incredible knack of finding an appropriate and fitting visual for a particular moment. That is an art my friend; a true artists touch. I hit it by luck sometimes, but never by design. That particular neuron is missing in me. Two Kudi for you. LOL (never knew the plural for Kudos)



I thank you, my friend. I am very happy to have a place to share time with such good people. I am humbled by your kind words. If I have a gift, then I am equally lucky to have a place where others can enjoy it.

I hope you have a wonderful night. I must get some bit of sleep, before the alarm goes off.
Quoting Grothar:


I don't like to over compliment, because sometimes it sounds a little trite, but you should have been a casting director or in the visual arts. You have an incredible knack of finding an appropriate and fitting visual for a particular moment. That is an art my friend; a true artists touch. I hit it by luck sometimes, but never by design. That particular neuron is missing in me. Two Kudi for you. LOL (never knew the plural for Kudos)


+100
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Perth
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #16
TROPICAL CYCLONE ABELE (02U)
2:00 PM WST December 3 2010
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At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Abele, Category One (990 hPa) located at 19.1S 91.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southeast at 12 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5/3.0/W1.5/24HRS

Gale Force Winds
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80 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
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12 HRS: 20.7S 93.4E - 35 knots (CAT 1)
24 HRS: 22.2S 94.5E - 35 knots (CAT 1)
48 HRS: 24.4S 96.6E - 30 knots (Tropical Low)
72 HRS: 24.5S 98.7E - 30 knots (Tropical Low)

Additional Information
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Tropical Cyclone Abele has weakened over the past 24 hours. Recent visible satellite imagery reveals an exposed low level circulation centre with deep convection confined to southeast quadrant. This is in response to increasing W/NW shear. UW-CIMSS indicates WNW shear of about 25 knots at 030600UTC.

Dvorak: Based on a shear pattern, centre approximately 0.5 degree from edge of convection so DT=2.5. MET is 2.5 based on W trend with PAT unchanged at 2.5. So FT is 2.5 and CI is 3.0. ASCAT pass at 030241 UTC showed winds to 45 knots.

Abele is over unfavourable SSTs of 24 to 26 degrees and together with the increasing shear the system will continue to weaken. Gales are likely to be confined to the southern semicircle after 031800 UTC.

Abele is being steered by an upper level trough to the southwest. General southeast motion should continue in the short term. In the longer term the remnants are likely to be steered to the west under the influence of a ridge of high pressure.
When filling out your Christmas cards this year, take ONE CARD and SEND it to this address: A Recovering American Soldier, c/o Walter Reed Army Medical Center, 6900 Georgia Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20307-5001. If we pass this on and everyone sends one card, think of how many cards these wonderful special people who have sacrificed so much would get. PLEASE do this!
Good Morning All! Florida's Ice Box AKA Crestview FL was 28 this morning at 4AM. I and the dog are really beginning to hate going out in the morning.
Quoting PakaSurvivor:
Good Morning All! Florida's Ice Box AKA Crestview FL was 28 this morning at 4AM. I and the dog are really beginning to hate going out in the morning.



True...I got 28 now around Marianna/Blountstown!!

Time to move to the KEYS!!
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Tuesday's morning low temps. Lowest of the next 7 day period according to NOAA/NWS

Snowarmer thank you for the address and the thought of our soilders at this time of year my brother has been in the army for 17 years has always come home safely but many of his fellow soilders have not this may be the only christmas card i send this year but i put it in the mail before i responded to your post...

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What is the world coming to......

Help police! Someone stole my snowman

LONDON - As Arctic blizzards swept across southeast England, stranding hundreds in their cars and bringing motorways to a virtual halt in whiteout conditions, Kent police received a strange call on their emergency number.

"I haven't been out to check on him for five hours but I went outside for a fag (cigarette) and he's gone," said the female caller.

When the operator asked who had gone she replied: "My snowman. I thought that with it being icy and there not being anybody about he'd be safe.

"It ain't a nice road but you don't expect anybody to nick your snowman," she added.

Police were most definitely not amused.
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