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The Unusually Quiet Atlantic Hurricane Season of 2013 Ends

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:53 PM GMT on November 29, 2013

The end of the unusually quiet Atlantic hurricane season of 2013 is at hand. The final tally of thirteen named storms was above the average of eleven for a season, but the two hurricanes (Ingrid and Humberto) and zero major hurricanes were well below the average from 1950 - 2012 of six and three, respectively. The 2013 season ranked as the sixth-least-active Atlantic hurricane season since 1950, in terms of the collective strength and duration of named storms and hurricanes (ACE index), which was just 33% of the 1981 - 2012 average. The 2013 hurricane season was the first time since 1994 no major hurricanes formed, and was only the third below-normal season since the high-activity period for Atlantic hurricanes began in 1995. NOAA and the U.S. Air Force Reserve flew 45 hurricane hunter aircraft reconnaissance missions over the Atlantic basin this season, totaling 435 hours--the fewest number of flight hours since at least 1966, said NOAA in a press release summarizing the 2013 hurricane season.



Worst storm of the season: Ingrid
Mexico took a severe beating in 2013, with eight landfalling storms: one hurricane (Ingrid) and two tropical storms (Barry and Fernand) from the Atlantic side, and two hurricanes (Manuel and Barbara), and three tropical storms from the Pacific side. The deadliest and most expensive Atlantic storm of 2013 was Hurricane Ingrid, which weakened to a tropical storm with 65 mph winds before hitting Mexico about 200 miles south of the Texas border on September 16, 2013. Ingrid's heavy rains triggered flooding that killed 23 and did $1.5 billion in damage, making the storm the 7th costliest tropical cyclone in Mexican history. Barry and Fernand, which both hit the Mexican coast in the Gulf of Mexico between Tampico and Veracruz, dumped torrential rains and triggered floods that killed five and fourteen people, respectively. The first storm of the season, Tropical Storm Andrea, was the only named storm to make landfall in the United States this year. Andrea brought tornadoes, heavy rain, and minor flooding to portions of Florida, eastern Georgia and eastern South Carolina, causing one fatality and damage less than $25 million. No other deaths were recorded from Atlantic named storms in 2013. Tropical Storm Chantal did minor damage on Dominica and Martinique in the Lesser Antilles, and Tropical Storm Gabrielle did minor damage on Bermuda.


Figure 1. The strongest Atlantic hurricane of 2013, Category 1 Hurricane Ingrid, lays siege to Mexico on September 15, 2013. Ingrid killed 23 and did $1.5 billion in damage to Mexico. On the Pacific side, we see Tropical Storm Manuel, which killed 169 people and did $4.2 billion in damage to Mexico. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

A preseason forecast bust
It was a bad year to be in the seasonal hurricane forecast business. All of the pre-season forecasts called for at least 7 hurricanes, 3 major hurricanes, and an ACE index at least 30% higher than average. With the actual numbers being 2 hurricanes, 0 major hurricanes, and an ACE index of just 33% of average , these forecasts were a major bust. The only pre-season forecast that one could deem successful was issued by a team at Penn State, led by Dr. Michael Mann, who only attempted to predict the number of named storms (they said 12 - 20, with a best estimate of 16.) The preseason forecasts largely failed because many of the factors that usually lead to active seasons that we can look at months beforehand all pointed towards an active season:

1) No El Niño was present. When El Niño conditions are not present in the Eastern Pacific, wind shear tends to be low over the tropical Atlantic, favoring hurricane formation.

2) Ocean temperatures were above average.

3) Sea level pressures were lower than average.

4) Wind shear was near average.

5) The African Monsoon was active, with many strong tropical waves emerging from the coast of Africa. These disturbances form the nucleus for about 85% of all major hurricanes.

However, these factors tell only roughly 50% of the story. The other 50% is not predictable more than a week or two in advance: the large-scale atmospheric circulation. This summer and fall, an unusually strong trough of low pressure over the Central Atlantic brought large amounts of dry, sinking air to the tropical Atlantic. Large amounts of dry air also invaded from the Sahara, and from Northeast Brazil, which had suffered the most expensive drought in Brazil's history ($8 billion) earlier in the year. The combined onslaught of dry air from these multiple sources was enough to overwhelm the otherwise favorable conditions for development, leading to one of the quietest Atlantic hurricane seasons on record. According to Phil Klotzbach of the Colorado State seasonal forecast team, the relative humidity at the 700 mb level (roughly 10,000 feet) in the Main Development Region of the tropical Atlantic (7.5- 22.5°N, 20-75°W) in August was the lowest observed in the past 35 years, and was the 8th lowest during September. The strength of the sinking motion of the air in this region during August and September was the second greatest of the past 35 years. It's tough to sustain a thunderstorm updraft when there is so much dry, sinking air at middle levels of the atmosphere.



Special Characteristics of the 2013 Hurricane Season
The 2013 hurricane season had the following special characteristics, as summarized by Phil Klotzbach of the Colorado State seasonal forecast team:

• Thirteen named storms occurred during 2013. This is the most named storms to occur in a year with two or fewer hurricanes in the historical record. The 1931 hurricane season had thirteen named storms but only three hurricanes.

• 35.75 named storm days (NSD) occurred during 2013. This is the fewest NSD since 2009 (30 NSD).

• Two hurricanes formed in 2013. This is the fewest hurricanes since 1982, when two hurricanes also formed.

• No major hurricanes formed in 2013. The last year with no major hurricane formations was 1994.

• ACE in 2013 was only 30 units. This is the lowest ACE for an Atlantic hurricane season since 1983 (17 ACE units.)

• No major hurricanes made U.S. landfall in 2013. The last major hurricane to make U.S. landfall was Wilma (2005), so the U.S. has now gone eight years without a major hurricane landfall. Since 1878 when relatively reliable landfall data became available, the U.S. has never had an eight-year period without a major hurricane landfall.

• The maximum intensity reached by any hurricane this year was 85 mph (Humberto and Ingrid). This is the weakest maximum intensity achieved by the most intense hurricane of a season since 1968 (Gladys, 85 mph.)

• Humberto reached hurricane strength early on September 11. It became the second latest forming first hurricane of the year, developing into a hurricane just hours before the previous record latest forming first hurricane of the year (Gustav, 2002.)

• Two tropical cyclones (TCs) formed in the Main Development Region (south of 23.5°N, east of 75°W) prior to 1 August. The last year with two TCs forming in this region prior to 1 August was all-time busiest hurricane season on record, 2005. The median ACE of the 10 years with two TCs in the MDR prior to 1 August was 174 ACE units. The 2013 season clearly defied many of the typical pre-season climate signals.


Video 1. Wunderground member CycloneOz put together this animation of all the named storms of the 2013 Atlantic hurricane season.

Have a great weekend, everyone, and I'll be back Monday with a new post.

Jeff Masters

Hurricane

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Quoting 924. KoritheMan:

It's been Christmas since October as far as Walmart's concerned. Ugh.
Also in every bank I've been in since the beginning of November... :o/

Quoting 939. KoritheMan:

I wouldn't tolerate half the crap cashiers have to tolerate on a daily basis. Probably why I chose a more satiating position.
Merchandise [usually] doesn't talk back...

Quoting 948. Skyepony:
New invests today..Alessia is still raining on Australia.

Bay of Bengal
92B


Southern Hemisphere
91S
I have a feeling the Southern Hemisphere season may be a bit more interesting than our rather banal ATL one....
Quoting 995. BahaHurican:
Biggest irony of all? I thought I was being conservative with 16/8/4....
I went with 15/8/5. I was expecting to see more purely tropical development this season hence why the high numbers of hurricanes and major hurricanes. But nope! This season had other plans. And at the end of the day we all should be thankful it played out like this.
1003. pottery
Quoting Dakster:


Good thing its the dry season, huh.


Well, Officially, Dry Season is Jan-Jun.
Rainy season June-December, with Nov-Dec usually wet.
At my house in Central T&T, my average annual rainfall is a little over 7 feet.

This year, July-October were relatively dry, and Nov has been above average.
Probably come out at about 7 feet again.

In the Northern Range (just over 3000' max elevation) the rainfall in places averages 12 feet.
Quoting 984. CaribBoy:
The ITCZ is being pulled northward... the Windwards will be happy.
That is good news the ITCZ was over the northern coast of South America where it was bringing flooding rains to portions of Guyana, so at least now they can dry out, because some schools and businesses were closed all week.
For those who missed them, here are a few weather-related images chosen from entries into National Geographic's 2013 Photo Contest. View all the entries if you have the time; most are awesome, and many are truly spectacular (Courtesy The Atlantic Part I and Part II). [Click on images for larger versions]:

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Menomonie, WI (@Adam Dorry/National Geographic Photo Contest)

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Jackson Hole, WY (@Glen Husty/National Geographic Photo Contest)

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Orta Lake, Italy (@Riccardo Criseo/National Geographic Photo Contest)

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Khangsar, Nepal (@Ed Graham/National Geographic Photo Contest)

NG
Rozel, KS (@Dennis Oswald/National Geographic Photo Contest)
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/11/nation al-geographic-photo-contest-2013-part-ii/100636/
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Mount Bromo, East Java (@Pimpin Nagawan/National Geographic Photo Contest)

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Broken Bow, NE (@Anne Goforth/National Geographic Photo Contest)

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Trentino, Italy (@Alessandro Gruzza/National Geographic Photo Contest)
Quoting 993. VR46L:
I saw this on my feed ... Most of the US gets a dusting at least ,,,,Except Florida !

I wonder if you were to extrapolate this out if Florida was to get in on the act?
Quoting 993. VR46L:
I saw this on my feed ... Most of the US gets a dusting at least ,,,,Except Florida !

Quoting 987. hydrus:
The models always show snow this far out only for it not to happen in my area when the time comes.Check out the GFS for a example.It showed snow for December 4-5 and the reality?.Temps in the 50's with sunshine.Hey! if you never believe you won't be disappointed...
1008. VR46L
Quoting 1006. GTstormChaserCaleb:
I wonder if you were to extrapolate this out if Florida was to get in on the act?


Doubt it its where snow will fall at anytime during 10 days ! but I can just imagine the excitement that it would bring if Florida gets snow
1009. yoboi
Quoting 997. VR46L:


Your gonna get Snow in LA according to the euro .. I am sure you will find some way of staying warm



Looks like I will be using more wood than expected this year in the fireplace......Already had 2 record lows last week and it's not winter yet....
Nea, thanks for sharing those photos. I always look forward to the winners of those contests.
Quoting 959. Civicane49:
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI
1220 AM HST SUN DEC 1 2013

HIZ002>004-011145-
KAUAI LEEWARD-KAUAI MOUNTAINS-KAUAI WINDWARD-
1220 AM HST SUN DEC 1 2013

AT 1212 AM HST...A STRONG THUNDERSTORM WAS 16 MILES WEST OF LIHUE...
MOVING NORTH AT 25 MPH.

WIND GUSTS TO 40 MPH AND SMALL HAIL ARE POSSIBLE WITH THIS STORM.
THIS STORM WILL BE CONTINUE TO IMPACT THE SOUTH AND WESTERN SLOPES
OF KAUAI UNTIL 145 AM.

$$

FOSTER

Do Ya'll normally get this kind of rain in Nov / Dec?

Quoting 989. SLU:


I feel your pain now that you're facing the prospect of a long dry season.


The GFS says that the Lesser Antilles will receive some rains this week thanks to ITCZ moisture coming from the south :-)

Lol maybe our dry season will become increasingly rainy due to GW!! I'm dreaming of impossible things, I know xd XD
1013. VR46L
Quoting 1009. yoboi:



Looks like I will be using more wood than expected this year in the fireplace......Already had 2 record lows last week and it's not winter yet....


Yeah it would appear that its unseasonally chilly some of last month .

Do you chop your own wood ?
1014. LargoFl
1015. hydrus
Quoting 1007. washingtonian115:
The models always show snow this far out only for it not to happen in my area when the time comes.Check out the GFS for a example.It showed snow for December 4-5 and the reality?.Temps in the 50's with sunshine.Hey! if you never believe you won't be disappointed...
You do have a valid point. The snow forecasts have been inaccurate. The computer models do a poor job in my opinion with air temps at different levels of the atmosphere, therefor, snowfall models suffer what I call vertigo, and we end up with little wintry precip or all rain. As we get further into the winter months , computers are usually more reliable as most of the air masses are more uniform with height.jmo
1016. yoboi
Quoting 1013. VR46L:


Yeah it would appear that its unseasonally chilly some of last month .

Do you chop your own wood ?



Yeah I chop it all....Don't think I have enough for this winter....
Quoting 1007. washingtonian115:
The models always show snow this far out only for it not to happen in my area when the time comes.Check out the GFS for a example.It showed snow for December 4-5 and the reality?.Temps in the 50's with sunshine.Hey! if you never believe you won't be disappointed...
The Ridge off the East Coast is the key to winter forecast along the East Coast. A stronger ridge would tend to block systems coming down from the Northwest and Canada and go over the top of the ridge whereas a weaker ridge would allow systems to move it out of the way and bring down the colder airmass. Right now I am seeing a pattern of the former on the models heading into the first 2 weeks of December. What is ironic is that stronger ridge would typically steer tropical systems towards the East Coast, but we didn't have many tropical systems this year. So once again this year seems to be quiet weather wise along the East Coast. Now we wait to see if the pattern changes and we get Gulf Lows and Nor'Easters.
Quoting 1009. yoboi:



Looks like I will be using more wood than expected this year in the fireplace......Already had 2 record lows last week and it's not winter yet....
That doesn't mean didly squat for the rest of winter.Check out the fall of 2011.Fall was cold and the winter that followed?.Warmest on record.Point being is that it matters what the dominant pattern will be for the rest of the fall/winter.Only in rare cases is a cold fall followed by a cold winter (09-10) in my area anyway...
Quoting 1005. Neapolitan:
For those who missed them, here are a few weather-related images chosen from entries into National Geographic's 2013 Photo Contest. Take time to view all the entries if you have the time; all are awesome, and many are truly spectacular (Courtesy The Atlantic Part I and Part II). [Click on images for larger versions]:

NG
Menomonie, WI (@Adam Dorry/National Geographic Photo Contest)

NG
Jackson Hole, WY (@Glen Husty/National Geographic Photo Contest)

NG
Orta Lake, Italy (@Riccardo Criseo/National Geographic Photo Contest)

NG
Khangsar, Nepal (@Ed Graham/National Geographic Photo Contest)

NG
Rozel, KS (@Dennis Oswald/National Geographic Photo Contest)
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/11/nation al-geographic-photo-contest-2013-part-ii/100636/
NG
Mount Bromo, East Java (@Pimpin Nagawan/National Geographic Photo Contest)

NG
Broken Bow, NE (@Anne Goforth/National Geographic Photo Contest)

NG
Trentino, Italy (@Alessandro Gruzza/National Geographic Photo Contest)


Those pics are really worth checking out! Amazing!
Although the 2013 season was unusually weak, the two hurricanes that formed did so during the normal peak time...September.
1021. hydrus
Quoting 1002. GTstormChaserCaleb:
I went with 15/8/5. I was expecting to see more purely tropical development this season hence why the high numbers of hurricanes and major hurricanes. But nope! This season had other plans. And at the end of the day we all should be thankful it played out like this.
I had 17/8/4. The same as WU. I mention in passing that I pick these numbers well before the numbers were averaged out on the blog.
1022. yoboi
Quoting 1018. washingtonian115:
That doesn't mean didly squat for the rest of winter.Check out the fall of 2011.Fall was cold and the winter that followed?.Warmest on record.Point being is that it matters what the dominant pattern will be for the rest of the fall/winter.Only in rare cases is a cold fall followed by a cold winter (09-10) in my area anyway...


I hope it's not a long cold winter....
1023. VR46L
Quoting 1016. yoboi:



Yeah I chop it all....Don't think I have enough for this winter....


Looks like you are going to have to find some alternative source then !
Quoting 1015. hydrus:
You do have a valid point. The snow forecasts have been inaccurate. The computer models do a poor job in my opinion with air temps at different levels of the atmosphere, therefor, snowfall models suffer what I call vertigo, and we end up with little wintry precip or all rain. As we get further into the winter months , computers are usually more reliable as most of the air masses are more uniform with height.jmo
The models keep underestimating the marine layer that can set up over D.C.I've seen it do some messed up things to the forecast!.Back in July before it set up shop for a few days people were suspecting highs in the upper 80's and low 90's.However it brought damp conditions really humid air but the temps were in the 70's.
Have a great day everyone!
Quoting 1023. VR46L:


Looks like you are going to have to find some alternative source then !

Note to self: Get some hamsters for the treadmill...
1027. hydrus
Quoting 1022. yoboi:


I hope it's not a long cold winter....
I believe December will be stormy and cold. The rest is to far into the future to predict.
1028. hydrus
Quoting 1024. washingtonian115:
The models keep underestimating the marine layer that can set up over D.C.I've seen it do some messed up things to the forecast!.Back in July before it set up shop for a few days people were suspecting highs in the upper 80's and low 90's.However it brought damp conditions really humid air but the temps were in the 70's.
I have sailed all those waters and know from experience that even subtle shifts in the currents play a significant roll with the weather from the Carolinas northward to Maine. I have witnessed bazaar changes in the weather there in short order.
we got 30 days of 2013 lift too go then we move on two 2014
Quoting 938. KoritheMan:

I'm not sane. I just pretend I am.


"I am not a psychopath I'm a high functioning sociopath" (Benedict Cummerbach in the new "Sherlock" which my daughter pointed out to me.

But my fave from this which I should put on my office door is

"This investigation would move a bit faster IF YOU TREAT EVERY WORD I SAY AS GOSPEL!"
Quoting 1027. hydrus:
I believe December will be stormy and cold. The rest is to far into the future to predict.
Here are CPC's December temperature and precipitation outlooks, released yesterday:

cpc

cpc
Quoting 1018. washingtonian115:
That doesn't mean didly squat for the rest of winter.Check out the fall of 2011.Fall was cold and the winter that followed?.Warmest on record.Point being is that it matters what the dominant pattern will be for the rest of the fall/winter.Only in rare cases is a cold fall followed by a cold winter (09-10) in my area anyway...


I put the snow lights on the house. It's only a matter of time now :-)
1033. Patrap
Clearance sale on Post Season FRESCA by the case.

90% off

While supplies last.
Breakfast on the Front Board....

Same as yesterday: NJ Special- Taylor Ham and Egg on a roll, with salt, pepper, ketchup, coffee, cigarettes, blood pressure medication...and a low dose aspirin.

Enjoy!!!
1035. LargoFl
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA
729 AM EST SUN DEC 1 2013

CTZ002>004-MAZ005-010>012-NHZ012-RIZ001-021230-
HARTFORD CT-TOLLAND CT-WINDHAM CT-CENTRAL MIDDLESEX MA-
EASTERN HAMPSHIRE MA-EASTERN HAMPDEN MA-SOUTHERN WORCESTER MA-
EASTERN HILLSBOROUGH NH-NORTHWEST PROVIDENCE RI-
729 AM EST SUN DEC 1 2013

...FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM EST THIS MORNING...

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR NORTHERN
CONNECTICUT...CENTRAL MASSACHUSETTS...EASTERN
MASSACHUSETTS...WESTERN MASSACHUSETTS...SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND
NORTHERN RHODE ISLAND.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

PLEASE LISTEN TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR GO TO WEATHER.GOV ON THE
INTERNET FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FOLLOWING HAZARDS.

FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SPLASH OVER AND VERY MINOR COASTAL
FLOODING ALONG THE EASTERN MA COAST...DURING THE TUESDAY MORNING
HIGH TIDE CYCLE. MINOR BEACH EROSION IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY DURING
THE TUESDAY HIGH TIDE CYCLES ALONG THE OUTER CAPE OCEAN SIDE AND
THE EAST SHORE OF NANTUCKET.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

WEATHER SPOTTERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SIGNIFICANT WEATHER
CONDITIONS ACCORDING TO STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

$$
1036. LargoFl
from CNN...Bronx ny train derails..4 dead..........
Quoting 1036. LargoFl:
from CNN...Bronx train derails..4 dead..........
yes, we have been watching it all morning. 13 are critical. Terrible.
1038. barbamz
Update on posts #961 and 965



Source and translation from Italian:
Stormy sea invades countries of the Ionian coast as if it were a tsunami. Probably due to widespread weather warnings for many days there are no injuries reported so far. More delicate is the situation off the coast of Crotone, where vessels and an aircraft from Coast Guard are trying to rescue a boat adrift with about one hundred migrants on board. It's located 70 km off the coast. In the area weather conditions are very bad: Sea at level 7 and winds of 50 knots make it impossible to approach the vessel. ...


Source Meteo Portale Italia. 114km = 70 mph at the Eastern Coast of Sardinia.
1039. Dakster
Quoting 1029. Tazmanian:
we got 30 days of 2013 lift too go then we move on two 2014


Taz, I see you got your calendar fixed. That's great.

1040. DDR
Quoting pottery:


Well, Officially, Dry Season is Jan-Jun.
Rainy season June-December, with Nov-Dec usually wet.
At my house in Central T&T, my average annual rainfall is a little over 7 feet.

This year, July-October were relatively dry, and Nov has been above average.
Probably come out at about 7 feet again.

In the Northern Range (just over 3000' max elevation) the rainfall in places averages 12 feet.

Hey pottery
It rained by the buckets this morning,with 3 inches since 2 am this morning,it seems the rains have favored areas north and east of the airport and you this year,i've had above average rains in all months except feburary and September.
1041. Dakster
Quoting 1001. BahaHurican:
Also in every bank I've been in since the beginning of November... :o/

Merchandise [usually] doesn't talk back...

I have a feeling the Southern Hemisphere season may be a bit more interesting than our rather banal ATL one....


Out of curiosity, what would have to happen for a basin to have a less interesting season that the ATL one?
1042. Patrap
Quoting 1038. barbamz:
Update on posts #961 and 965



Source and trranslation from Italian:
Stormy sea invades countries of the Ionian coast as if it were a tsunami. Probably due to widespread weather warnings for many days there are no injuries reported so far. More delicate is the situation off the coast of Crotone, where vessels and an aircraft from Coast Guard are trying to rescue a boat adrift with about one hundred migrants on board. It's located 70 km off the coast. In the area weather conditions are very bad: Sea at level 7 and winds of 50 knots make it impossible to approach the vessel. ...


Source Meteo Portale Italia. 114km = 70 mph at the Eastern Coast of Sardinia.


Very nice image of the Good Shepard Barb,

We have the same statue of Him behind St Louis Cathedral here in New Orleans in the garden.

Katrina took his thumb though, an well..its a whispered reminder.

1043. Dakster
Patrap - Your statue and myself have something in common. We are both missing part of our left thumbs.

Quoting 981. Hurricane614:


Interesting thought but I don't believe this is the answer. The BP oil spill was in the GOM primarily (if I'm correct), and probably didn't effect the whole Atlantic ocean, so it wouldn't be a answer for everything. Very nice thought though, it's stuff like this that may be the answer.


Yes, the spill was entirely in the Gulf, but I believe that the Gulf Stream would carry a lot of that into the Atlantic eventually. And then there are all the non-point-source runoffs every day, like from your neighbor who changes his own oil in his automobile every other month.
1045. Patrap
Quoting 1043. Dakster:
Patrap - Your statue and myself have something in common. We are both missing part of our left thumbs.




Well there ya go, a side bar story is always welcomed.

: )
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
1046 AM AST SUN DEC 1 2013

.UPDATE...DECREASED SHOWERS/THUNDER TO NO MORE THAN SCATTERED
THROUGH TODAY. OTHERWISE FEW CHANGES.

&&

.DISCUSSION...ISABELLA AND BAYAMON SENSORS CORRELATE WITH 12Z TJSJ
SOUNDING IN SHOWING AROUND 1.6 INCHES PRECIPITABLE WATER THIS
MORNING. OVERALL DISSIPATION OF CLOUDS AND SHOWERS SUGGEST THAT
SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF SHOWERS ARE DONE FOR TODAY. HOWEVER
SATELLITE CLEARLY SHOWS VALUES OF 1.8 TO 1.9 INCHES LURKING AT THE
EAST END OF PR INTO USVI AND LESS DISSIPATION OF CLOUDS/SHOWERS HAS
OCCURRED THERE. BELIEVE A SHORT TERM REBOUND OF PRECIPITABLE WATER
IS IN ORDER AS IT MIGRATES ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS. THIS WILL
PERHAPS MODERATE DOWNWARD A LITTLE BY THE 700-500 MB MESOSCALE
RIDGE JUST NORTH OF PR (AS SHOWN BY GFS) WHICH WAS LEFT BEHIND BY
OVERNIGHT CONVECTION. STRONG EARLY SUNSHINE AND HELP FROM THE 500
MB TROUGH MOVING EAST OVER THE ISLAND WILL INCREASE CLOUDS THE
REST OF TODAY. THIS TROUGH...CURRENTLY AT WEST END OF PR...WILL
CROSS THE ISLAND PROBABLY A LITTLE LATE TO ENHANCE CONVECTION VERY
MUCH AND WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO DECREASING MOISTURE LEVELS
ESPECIALLY LATE.

Flooding being reported from Melbourne south to Fort Pierce as another set up of moderate to heavy rains have again set up this weekend. Some areas now nearing 10" of rain for the month of November which is way above average.

FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
1106 AM EST SUN DEC 1 2013



MARTIN-
1106 AM EST SUN DEC 1 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MELBOURNE HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR...
NORTHEASTERN MARTIN COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...STUART...PORT SALERNO...PALM CITY...
JENSEN BEACH...HOBE SOUND...

* UNTIL 100 PM EST.


* AT 1104 AM EST...WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED VERY HEAVY
RAIN HAS OCCURRED IN NORTHEAST MARTIN COUNTY THIS MORNING.
ADDITIONAL RAIN AMOUNTS OF ONE TO ONE AND A HALF INCHES WILL OCCUR
IN ADDITION TO THE SATURATING RAINS THAT FELL IN THIS AREA ON
SATURDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

MOTORISTS SHOULD DEACTIVATE CRUISE CONTROL AND SLOW DOWN IN HEAVY
RAINFALL TO REDUCE THE RISK OF HYDROPLANING. LEAVE SAFE DISTANCE
BETWEEN OTHER VEHICLES.

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE
ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS
SAFELY.

1048. Dakster
Quoting 1047. StormTrackerScott:
Flooding being reported from Melbourne south to Fort Pierce as another set up of moderate to heavy rains have again set up this weekend. Some areas now nearing 10" of rain for the month of November which is way above average.



Those Barrier islands (India Atlantic, Melbourne Beach, etc...) might turn into a low spot in the Atlantic if that rain keeps up.
Quoting 1031. Neapolitan:
Here are CPC's December temperature and precipitation outlooks, released yesterday:

cpc

cpc


Yeah good luck with that forecast as most of the US is in the Deep Freeze this week except FL. Some highs across the Upper Midwest are only forecast to hit -10. Yes -10 for a high.

1050. hydrus
Quoting 1031. Neapolitan:
Here are CPC's December temperature and precipitation outlooks, released yesterday:

cpc

cpc
A lot of equal chance on that map. That usually means have a low confidence forecast. I have been reading those maps for years and do not put much stock in them.
1051. barbamz

Video of the little vessel with the refugees off the coast of Southern Italy and attempts of the coastguard to reach it - unsuccessfully so far. May those people survive!

Gallery with photos and videos of the storm and floodings in Southern Italy.
Look at all this Arctic air!

Quoting 1018. washingtonian115:
That doesn't mean didly squat for the rest of winter.Check out the fall of 2011.Fall was cold and the winter that followed?.Warmest on record.Point being is that it matters what the dominant pattern will be for the rest of the fall/winter.Only in rare cases is a cold fall followed by a cold winter (09-10) in my area anyway...


There is a weak positive correlation between October and November temperature departures, and those for the rest of the cold season. Emphasis on "weak" but it is there.

Fall 2011 was not exceptionally cold and December was very warm.
Today's forecast highs:

Dec

...and Friday's:

Dec

...and just for fun, Friday morning's lows:

Dec
Quoting 1054. Neapolitan:
Today's forecast highs:

Dec

...and Friday's:

Dec

...and just for fun, Friday morning's lows:

Dec


Here is a detailed look at Friday's highs :) Only heat is in FL NEA but good try.

And just for fun Friday Nights lows ;)

Quoting 1050. hydrus:
A lot of equal chance on that map. That usually means have a low confidence forecast. I have been reading those maps for years and do not put much stock in them.
I, too, have been following them for years, and consider them to be a very useful guideline. So far as equal chance areas (white) indicating low confidence, I disagree; it can--and very likely does--mean that, for the month overall, there's an equal probability that temps will average out.

But, as always, I reckon we'll see...
Quoting 1055. StormTrackerScott:


Here is a detailed look at Friday's highs :) Only heat is in FL NEA but good try.

Quoting 1056. StormTrackerScott:
And just for fun Friday Nights lows ;)


Those temperature progs are from just one run of the GFS. What Nea was showing was the official NWS temperature forecasts.
Ladybugs are starting to come into my house and looking for a warm source of energy again and to hibernate , the cold is coming.
Quoting 1058. wxchaser97:

Those temperature progs are from just one run of the GFS. What Nea was showing was the official NWS temperature forecasts.


And what does the NWS use to make those forecasts? Longer runs of the Euro and GFS? Or do they have different models entirely?
I know its long out... but it looks like December 9th and 10th could be quite interesting for me
1062. LargoFl
far out but...................
Quoting 1061. Doppler22:
I know its long out... but it looks like December 9th and 10th could be quite interesting for me
Remember if you never believe you won't be disappointed.
1064. barbamz
Farmers describe 'worst storm in 150 years'
BBC Magazine report, 1 December 2013, last updated at 00:01 GMT, by Sybil Ruscoe BBC News, South Dakota
Nearly two months after devastating blizzards hit parts of South Dakota and Wyoming, farmers are still recovering from the loss of cattle and the effect on their businesses. ...
1065. barbamz
92B in the Bay of Bengal and 91S in the South Indian ocean available.




TPW shows antagonistic cyclonic turning rubbing against and probably enhancing each other at the equator (sorry for my non technical way to speak, lol).
Well guys I guess this is it, good bye and have a joyful and safe Christmas and new year holiday. I also hope you all have a exciting but safe Hurricane Season 2014 and the seasons to come after. I hope one day I may pop back in just to see what's new, I think that by that time most of the old timers will be gone, the new guys would become the new old timers, and there will be a ton of new people. Anyway all of you guys take care and always remember !+ignore user= bye bye trolls so don't do anything else or you may be banned too. Umm... So...bye guys.

wunderkidcayman
1067. hydrus
1068. hydrus
Nea is correct. It does look normal to slightly warmer than normal to start off December for us in Southeast. Just the northern central USA getting the cold.
12z ECMWF has snow for NE Texas in 10 days.

Quoting 1054. Neapolitan:
Today's forecast highs:

Dec

...and Friday's:

Dec

...and just for fun, Friday morning's lows:

Dec


12z Euro Anomaly is the most extreme on morning of Friday, December 6. Very warm in SE, very cold in northern central USA.

It's pouring here. Also heard couple of rumble of thunder.



Quoting 1011. BahaHurican:
Do Ya'll normally get this kind of rain in Nov / Dec?



Hawaii usually receives higher rainfall during this time of year, with some storms from the north Pacific bring a lot of rain there.
Quoting 1070. Tropicsweatherpr:
12z ECMWF has snow for NE Texas in 10 days.

Can you post that for the north-east region as well?
You know you're in Western NC when you're using Ray's Weather website over National Weather Service, lol. Ray and his staff of meteorologists are doing better with my area than NWS in South Carolina for most part. Locals here use this website as a bible when it comes to weather.

http://www.raysweather.com/
Quoting 1066. wunderkidcayman:
Well guys I guess this is it, good bye and have a joyful and safe Christmas and new year holiday. I also hope you all have a exciting but safe Hurricane Season 2014 and the seasons to come after. I hope one day I may pop back in just to see what's new, I think that by that time most of the old timers will be gone, the new guys would become the new old timers, and there will be a ton of new people. Anyway all of you guys take care and always remember !+ignore user= bye bye trolls so don't do anything else or you may be banned too. Umm... So...bye guys.

wunderkidcayman

Goodbye. Hope you check in again in the near future.
Sunday reading

Fukushima Floating Offshore Wind Project Seeks to Halve Cost

Centuries-Old Italian Olive Trees Die as Scientists Track Killer


Solar Data Trove Cutting Power Use in Threat to Utilities

What if Christmas Trees Had a Holiday?



Protective measures are a 'death sentence' for rare dolphin say campaigners

Indian probe begins journey to Mars


China space: 'Jade Rabbit' lunar mission blasts off


*** US taxpayers foot bill for climate inaction


Deep ocean offers hints of warming


Crows Are No Bird-Brains: Neurobiologists Investigate Neuronal Basis of Crows' Intelligence

Fast, Furious, Refined: Smaller Black Holes Can Eat Plenty (thinks of Astro at Thanksgiving)

!!! Even If Emissions Stop, Carbon Dioxide Could Warm Earth for Centuries

!!! Elucidating Heavy Precipitation Events

*** Paleotempestology and 2011's Hurricane Irene

* Glaciers Sizzle as They Disappear Into Warmer Water

* Lakes Discovered Beneath Greenland Ice Sheet

* Subarctic Lakes Are Drying Up at a Rate Not Seen in 200 Years

!!! Ocean Rip Currents Claim More Lives Than Other Natural Hazards (for aussiestorms)

A Brooding Marine Worm Found in Antarctica


Warsaw climate change talks end on a blurry note


* Eagle deaths: Unprecedented $1 million fine for Wyoming wind farms


*** Are gassy cattle a bigger problem than US government thought?

'Climate Casino': An Overview of Global Warming (book review)

The Vaccination Effect: 100 Million Cases of Contagious Disease Prevented

*** Junking the idea of junk: A newly recognised class of genes really does matter

Oil and natural gas reported near Puerto Rico

Green sea turtles make a comeback in Florida

Amazing ice circle found spinning on North Dakota river

*** Warming oceans, not air, may be critical to melting ice sheets
Here's the precipitaion forecast by NOAA for late next week.

Here's Friday



Here's Friday Night



Saturday Morning
Quoting 1073. washingtonian115:
Can you post that for the north-east region as well?


I got the graphic from another message board and because is from weatherbell that people have to pay to see the models I can't post more.
12z ECMWF with a snow bomb over Virginia and DC from a cold front (not nor'easter). I'm expecting the numbers to at least cut down by 50% or more.

24 HR snowfall between 1 pm December 9th to 1 pm December 10th:

Quoting 1079. Bluestorm5:
12z ECMWF with a HUGE snow bomb over Virginia and DC from a cold front (not nor'easter). I'm expecting the numbers to at least cut down by 50% or more.

24 HR snowfall between 1 pm December 9th to 1 pm December 10th:



Remember, D.C. was supposed to get a good snow out of the last storm and that fell apart.

But I grew up and spent 16 years living in the D.C. area and around Dec. 10th we got a lot of our snow storms.
One year it snowed so hard we didn't have to go back to school until after the Holiday Break.
1081. barbamz
Quoting 1066. wunderkidcayman:
Umm... So...bye guys.
wunderkidcayman


Kalo chimona - "have a good winter", WKC! This traditional good bye wish in Greece remained from those times when people on the many islands and remote villages wouldn't have been able to visit and hear from each other during winter due to rough sea and road conditions. Maybe you'll be back in next (hurricane) season.

It has been a dangerous day for trains (very sorry to learn about the news from NY). This one luckily escaped havoc at the coast of Sicily (Taormina, near volcano Etna):




Still image of the same scenery. Source.

As much as I've seen in Italian news (no international news coverage so far): With a wave of 11,8 meters = 38 ft at the coast of Crotone (Southern Italy), forced by subtropical cyclone "Neptune", a new Italian record might have been set today.

Quoting in translation:
It is a National Historic record: never in Italy such a high wave was measured, will mean: for more than 30 years, since there have been official surveys with buoys off the various ports. The previous record dates back a few days ago in Sardinia: At Capo Caccia on November 11, 2013, during the "Storm of St. Martin" a wave was measured with 10.5 meters. Two extreme events so close together really are a clear sign of how much the Italian climate is becoming more extreme.

This photo shows a huuuuge wave at the coast of nearby Catanzaro January 2009 . Mediterranean can be pretty scary, no?


Source.

For background look at post #961sq.

Well, I should have finished a paper today, but I didn't. Will have to bleed for it later with even less time. Umm, weather addiction!
Quoting 1080. Sfloridacat5:


Remember, D.C. was supposed to get a good snow out of the last storm and that fell apart.

But I grew up and spent 16 years living in the D.C. area and around Dec. 10th we got a lot of our snow storms.
One year it snowed so hard we didn't have to go back to school until after the Holiday Break.
That's why I'm saying the snow amounts should cut down big time. Also, this is a week later... it'll change.
D.C. largest snowfalls.

Washington D.C.
(1884-2010)
1-3 Day Total Date
28.0 Jan 27-29, 1922
20.0 Feb 12-14, 1899
18.7 Feb 18-19, 1979
17.8 Feb 5-6, 2010
17.3 Jan 7-9, 1996
16.6 Feb 10-11, 1983
16.4 Dec 18-19, 2009
16.4 Feb 16-18, 2003
14.4 Feb 15-16, 1958
14.4 Feb 7, 1936
Quoting 1079. Bluestorm5:
12z ECMWF with a snow bomb over Virginia and DC from a cold front (not nor'easter). I'm expecting the numbers to at least cut down by 50% or more.

24 HR snowfall between 1 pm December 9th to 1 pm December 10th:

I can tell you right now young man that it's just not going to happen.
Quoting 1082. Bluestorm5:
That's why I'm saying the snow amounts should cut down big time. Also, this is a week later... it'll change.


D.C. is usually right on the rain/snow line for most storms.
Just a slight change in the Low's path makes a big difference.

Over the years I've noticed that systems that produce snow for Oklahoma tend to also produce snow a few days later for the Mid Atlantic region. We'll have to watch for that.
Quoting 1085. Sfloridacat5:


D.C. is usually right on the rain/snow line for most storms.
Just a slight change in the Low's path makes a big difference.

Over the years I've noticed that systems that produce snow for Oklahoma tend to also produce snow a few days later for the Mid Atlantic region. We'll have to watch for that.
True. This one is coming from a front and not nor'easter low, however...
Quoting 1083. Sfloridacat5:
D.C. largest snowfalls.

Washington D.C.
(1884-2010)
1-3 Day Total Date
28.0 Jan 27-29, 1922
20.0 Feb 12-14, 1899
18.7 Feb 18-19, 1979
17.8 Feb 5-6, 2010
17.3 Jan 7-9, 1996
16.6 Feb 10-11, 1983
16.4 Dec 18-19, 2009
16.4 Feb 16-18, 2003
14.4 Feb 15-16, 1958
14.4 Feb 7, 1936
It depends on where your located in the city as well.In my neighborhood for the dec 09 blizzard I measured 23 inches.For the February 4 blizzard I measured 30 or so inches.That's why in my neighborhood it was not to uncommon for people by the end of the February blizzards to have 4 feet of snow outside of their house.When I talk to people closer near the water downtown however they saw 30" after the two blizzards.
The February 10th Blizzard originated from a Alberta clipper.It dumped a good amount of snow but not as much as the one a few days earlier that came from a gulf low.It all depends on how much moisture it picks up.Ya see in January this year and early-mid February we had a chance to have a impressive snow season.We had the disturbances but the atmosphere by the time they got here was way to dry.So we got dustings and nothing more.
Good Afternoon.  Glad that the 2013 Hurricane season is over (and for good reasons with no majors affecting the US again this year).

Now on to Winter Storms, Blizzards, and Nor'Easters in term of Conus activity over the next several months before we switch to tornado season in the Spring.  Have a feeling things will get quite cold for parts of the US this year.

With the Atlantic Hurricane a "bust" in spite of favorable pre-season indicators as noted by Dr. M, and current Enso-Neutral conditions for the US Winter (the pendulum can swing either way as opposed to more predictable La Nina or El Nino winters) really anything can happen over the next several months.  One storm or system at a time seems to be the safest best lately in the field of weather our our short-term models (GFS by way of example) are probably the best things to keep an eye on in the coming months for what we might expect.

Predicting potential long-term weather events/norms is getting tougher it seems in recent years. Check back with Yall during the next few weeks as we move towards the Christmas Holidays in the US.  Interesting times ahead in 2014, and beyond, for sure as we are still trying to wrap our heads around the impacts of recent climate change/warm anomalies/glacial retreat on what we are normally accustomed to in terms of long term analog weather patterns.  I am just happy to be alive (hopefully) over the next few decades to see how this all unfolds.
1091. VR46L
Saw this ...

NWS Bismarck ‏@NWSBismarck

The latest on the potential winter storm and dangerous cold. Help us get the word out, please Re-tweet

1092. VR46L
Quoting 1076. BaltimoreBrian:
Sunday reading

Fukushima Floating Offshore Wind Project Seeks to Halve Cost

Centuries-Old Italian Olive Trees Die as Scientists Track Killer


Solar Data Trove Cutting Power Use in Threat to Utilities

What if Christmas Trees Had a Holiday?



Protective measures are a 'death sentence' for rare dolphin say campaigners

Indian probe begins journey to Mars


China space: 'Jade Rabbit' lunar mission blasts off


*** US taxpayers foot bill for climate inaction


Deep ocean offers hints of warming


Crows Are No Bird-Brains: Neurobiologists Investigate Neuronal Basis of Crows' Intelligence

Fast, Furious, Refined: Smaller Black Holes Can Eat Plenty (thinks of Astro at Thanksgiving)

!!! Even If Emissions Stop, Carbon Dioxide Could Warm Earth for Centuries

!!! Elucidating Heavy Precipitation Events

*** Paleotempestology and 2011's Hurricane Irene

* Glaciers Sizzle as They Disappear Into Warmer Water

* Lakes Discovered Beneath Greenland Ice Sheet

* Subarctic Lakes Are Drying Up at a Rate Not Seen in 200 Years

!!! Ocean Rip Currents Claim More Lives Than Other Natural Hazards (for aussiestorms)

A Brooding Marine Worm Found in Antarctica


Warsaw climate change talks end on a blurry note


* Eagle deaths: Unprecedented $1 million fine for Wyoming wind farms


*** Are gassy cattle a bigger problem than US government thought?

'Climate Casino': An Overview of Global Warming (book review)

The Vaccination Effect: 100 Million Cases of Contagious Disease Prevented

*** Junking the idea of junk: A newly recognised class of genes really does matter

Oil and natural gas reported near Puerto Rico

Green sea turtles make a comeback in Florida

Amazing ice circle found spinning on North Dakota river

*** Warming oceans, not air, may be critical to melting ice sheets


Ok , I got to ask what are the stars or exclamation marks before some articles about ?
Kind of random, but I was in my attic getting Christmas stuff down and I found a Canadian Penny :p I have no idea how that got there.


And as Christmas tradition, we are putting up our lights when its dark and cold out. Its currently in the 30's.

1094. barbamz
Good night from Germany. I've collected today's news about subtropical "Neptune" in Italy on my blog for those, who are interested (I won't have much time to stick around this week though, sigh).
As there are fortunately no death related so far - thanks to early warnings and weekend - I don't expect that already weakening "Nettuno" will make it to the international news (even if some national records in Italy may have been broken today and a lot of damage has been reported). At least, if the vessel with the at least 100 refugees will survive.
Have a nice week and stay save! Barb from Germany, which may expect snowy weather at the end of this week.
More showers and thunderstorms on the way to Oahu.

1096. Patrap
Quoting 1066. wunderkidcayman:
Well guys I guess this is it, good bye and have a joyful and safe Christmas and new year holiday. I also hope you all have a exciting but safe Hurricane Season 2014 and the seasons to come after. I hope one day I may pop back in just to see what's new, I think that by that time most of the old timers will be gone, the new guys would become the new old timers, and there will be a ton of new people. Anyway all of you guys take care and always remember !+ignore user= bye bye trolls so don't do anything else or you may be banned too. Umm... So...bye guys.

wunderkidcayman
Miss you.
Quoting 1079. Bluestorm5:
12z ECMWF with a snow bomb over Virginia and DC from a cold front (not nor'easter). I'm expecting the numbers to at least cut down by 50% or more.

24 HR snowfall between 1 pm December 9th to 1 pm December 10th:

Dang i would get a foot but i am not believing yet.. If you do not thin about it = better chance of happening
Quoting 1070. Tropicsweatherpr:
12z ECMWF has snow for NE Texas in 10 days.

Snow for me in Southeast Louisiana,
Quoting 1089. washingtonian115:
The February 10th Blizzard originated from a Alberta clipper.It dumped a good amount of snow but not as much as the one a few days earlier that came from a gulf low.It all depends on how much moisture it picks up.Ya see in January this year and early-mid February we had a chance to have a impressive snow season.We had the disturbances but the atmosphere by the time they got here was way to dry.So we got dustings and nothing more.
More clippers this year ?
Going down to 57 tonight and 52 tomorrow night!:)
Not seeing any data from OSCAT for the last two days...


I want Florida SNOW!!
1104. VR46L

I see that TWC have named the coming storm Cleon ,,,

Weird name ... Oh well all fair in ratings and Marketing
Well it was fun with u guys covering Hurricane season. I know im a day late but every year i get on here i learn something new and meet new friends. Ill be off and on, on here during the winter and spring. im working two jobs now so ill barely be on(mostly lurking). Like I said it was fun with you guys and Ill see you guys soon and dont forget to respect one another and keep up the good weather information. See Yall soon. Yall hold the fort down!
Quoting 1103. PensacolaDoug:
I want Florida SNOW!!
I want a blizzard, so it can shut down this whole place. :P...How are you doing Doug?
Quoting 1106. GTstormChaserCaleb:
I want a blizzard, so it can shut down this whole place. :P...How are you doing Doug?


I am so down wit dat! Crazy huh?
1108. VR46L
Quoting 1105. bigwes6844:
Well it was fun with u guys covering Hurricane season. I know im a day late but every year i get on here i learn something new and meet new friends. Ill be off and on, on here during the winter and spring. im working two jobs now so ill barely be on(mostly lurking). Like I said it was fun with you guys and Ill see you guys soon and dont forget to respect one another and keep up the good weather information. See Yall soon. Yall hold the fort down!


Another of my favs *sigh*

Will miss your enthusiasm and friendliness

Stay safe Wes!

Quoting 1104. VR46L:

I see that TWC have named the coming storm Cleon ,,,

Weird name ... Oh well all fair in ratings and Marketing
Coming so soon, just after folks have recovered from Boreas.
Boreas-Cleon. It's a B-C punch in the gut, unless it's not.
Historically unprecedented, this footnote in weather marketing history.
1110. VR46L
Quoting 1107. PensacolaDoug:


I am so down wit dat! Crazy huh?


Your blog seems to be the hip happening place Doug !
1111. VR46L
Quoting 1109. CosmicEvents:

Coming so soon, just after folks have recovered from Boreas.
Boreas-Cleon. It's a B-C punch in the gut, unless it's not.
Historically unprecedented, this footnote in weather marketing history.


I do think its gonna be a big deal for most of the US for about 2 weeks its the Arctic air that is coming down that the NWS seem very concerned about
Quoting 1110. VR46L:


Your blog seems to be the hip happening place Doug !

It's more politics than weather today.
1113. hydrus
Quoting 1111. VR46L:


I do think its gonna be a big deal for most of the US for about 2 weeks its the Arctic air that is coming down that the NWS seem very concerned about
Good evening VR. It has been a very long time since I have seen a massive arctic blast similar to the ones from the 1970,s..They have become less frequent in my opinion.
1115. hydrus
Quoting 1112. PensacolaDoug:

It's more politics than weather today.
I want to be President.!! of what I have no Idea..:)
1116. VR46L
Quoting 1112. PensacolaDoug:

It's more politics than weather today.


Oh !

I guess that means fights and everyone argument is bigger and better than the last ...

Might give it a miss :)
Quoting 1080. Sfloridacat5:


Remember, D.C. was supposed to get a good snow out of the last storm and that fell apart.

But I grew up and spent 16 years living in the D.C. area and around Dec. 10th we got a lot of our snow storms.
One year it snowed so hard we didn't have to go back to school until after the Holiday Break.


I think this was December 16-17, 1973. It wasn't a huge dump but 10" is respectable and it cancelled school Monday-Wednesday. A second 1-2" of wintery mix wednesday night caused local officials to just throw in the towel and cancel thursday and friday schools in Fairfax County.
Next school was after holiday break.
Quoting 1116. VR46L:


Oh !

I guess that means fights and everyone argument is bigger and better than the last ...

Might give it a miss :)
Wouldn't blame ya!!LOL.
Lots of cold coming it appears tho!! Woot woot!
1119. hydrus
I see they found big lakes under Greenland....how nice...
1120. beell
Quoting 1109. CosmicEvents:

Coming so soon, just after folks have recovered from Boreas.
Boreas-Cleon. It's a B-C punch in the gut, unless it's not.
Historically unprecedented, this footnote in weather marketing history.


The social media world has not quite caught up with #cleon.

Quoting 1079. Bluestorm5:
12z ECMWF with a snow bomb over Virginia and DC from a cold front (not nor'easter). I'm expecting the numbers to at least cut down by 50% or more.

24 HR snowfall between 1 pm December 9th to 1 pm December 10th:



200 hours out I'm just expecting it to not verify at all.
1122. VR46L
Quoting 1118. PensacolaDoug:
Wouldn't blame ya!!LOL.
Lots of cold coming it appears tho!! Woot woot!


Bad News for ya I don't think its gets below 60 in your area

1123. hydrus
Quoting 1120. beell:


The social media world has not quite caught up with #cleon.

Cleon..lmao..
1124. VR46L
Quoting 1113. hydrus:
Good evening VR. It has been a very long time since I have seen a massive arctic blast similar to the ones from the 1970,s..They have become less frequent in my opinion.


LOL !

I would not know about that , but am trying to stay away from that subject .. gets me in trouble....
Quoting 1121. georgevandenberghe:


200 hours out I'm just expecting it to not verify at all.
Also look at the temps heading up to the "snow storm".Here is the D.C rule..Before a huge snow storm normally occurs it has to be temps in the 30's- low 40's or so before the storm.Only in rare cases has it been able to be in it's 60's before a huge snow storm.With temps going in the 50's and 60's this week and upper 40's and low 50's during the weekend I don't think so..
1126. VR46L
Only the start

1127. barbamz
Quoting 1118. PensacolaDoug:
Wouldn't blame ya!!LOL.
Lots of cold coming it appears tho!! Woot woot!


Stay warm and safe! The reindeers in Alaska and Siberia won't have to worry about it the next days anyway (but they won't post in here, lol):


Temps below and above average: GFS outlook for December, 6th (saved screenshot). Source for more (it's already too warm over there at present).
I'm finally out now, bye bye!!
Quoting 1113. hydrus:
Good evening VR. It has been a very long time since I have seen a massive arctic blast similar to the ones from the 1970,s..They have become less frequent in my opinion.


In the 42 years from 1940 to 1981 DCA had no zero or below temperature observations. Subzero cold occured January 1982, December 1983, January 1985, and January 1994. There have been no further incidents in the 18 years since then.

41 years, no subzero
12 years four subzero
18 years no subzero.

What was different about the 80s and early 90s? The 80s also had more devastating Florida Citrus freezes than any other decade. (The 1982 and 1994 events did not produce catastrophic Florida freezes but 1980 (March), 1981 (January) and 1977 (January) did.
1129. VR46L


More than 2 and-a-half 1/2 inches of rain in West Palm today. Some areas south of us, more than 5 inches.
1131. Dakster
Quoting 1112. PensacolaDoug:

It's more politics than weather today.


There's a weather blog here somewhere?
1132. Dakster
Quoting 1119. hydrus:
I see they found big lakes under Greenland....how nice...


With all those moulins is really that much of a shock?
Quoting 1120. beell:


The social media world has not quite caught up with #cleon.



Many of the tweets sound negative or just poke fun.
1134. docrod
Quoting 1103. PensacolaDoug:
I want Florida SNOW!!


"Florida Snow" ???
Quoting 1133. wxgeek723:


Many of the tweets sound negative or just poke fun.
Of course they sound negative and mocking because the names are ridiculous.TM(market)C has now made a @*% out of it's self with these names.
1136. Patrap
Geaux Sneaux ?

1137. Dakster
Almost looks like the Coral Gables Trolly. But I know better than that.
1138. docrod
Hi folks - been enjoying the no a/c weather in the Florida Keys finally and just finished my Holiday homemade mango and papaya salsa's, jams, and Jamaican style chutneys!!

Just patched one roof leak and looking forward!

- be good to one another - docrod
Quoting 1135. washingtonian115:
Of course they sound negative and mocking because the names are ridiculous.TM(market)C has now made a @*% out of it's self with these names.


I believe the main reason the names have caught on with the public because it gives them an entity to poke fun at, the same way you would see people make fun of the names Irene or Sandy. And of course because of the hashtag. Really makes me hate social media. As for those in the weather community, well many of them just don't get their fill with hurricane names and don't see how naming every snowstorm creates monotony and derives the lure of creativity in our beautiful field.
1140. Dakster
And Today's Headline from Captain Obvious:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul- walker-dies/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

They say speed was a factor in the crash... Ya think? A Porsche GT slams into a tree that splits the car in half and causes it to explode.
1141. docrod
Quoting 1137. Dakster:
Almost looks like the Coral Gables Trolly. But I know better than that.


'lectric buses also run in Dayton Ohio
hmm?...Just as I thought. Bermuda High setting up shop off the Southeast Coast trying to keep troughs from pushing southeast. Pretty cool seeing these 2 entities compete with one another.







*Note 1001 mb. low south of Azores.
Subtropical? LOL ;)



1144. Dakster
Quoting 1141. docrod:


'lectric buses also run in Dayton Ohio


Gables ones are not electric, just made to look that way.
Quoting 1092. VR46L:


Ok , I got to ask what are the stars or exclamation marks before some articles about ?


* means an article is somewhat more important than run-of-the-mill

*** means it is more important still

!!! means it is most important

That's it.
1146. Patrap
Been streetcars here since 1835

Why Did Some Streetcars Survive When Most Didn't?
ERIC JAFFEOCT 28, 2011




Still, the mere fact that streetcars not only escaped extinction but are now mounting a comeback speaks to the transit mode's allure. The country's oldest continually operating line may offer some insight into this survival-turned-revival. That's the St. Charles Avenue streetcar line in New Orleans, which has continued to clang since 1835. In the weeks after Hurricane Katrina, it was even pulled by horses. Today, it still glides along a grassy median on the avenue, through the city's Garden District and toward the French Quarter.
1147. Patrap

(L)Satellite image of Typhoon Haiyan, superimposed on the spot in the Gulf of Mexico where Hurricane Katrina reached its maximum strength in 2005, and (R) actual satellite image of Katrina. Colors correspond to temperatures in Celsius. Temperatures at the tops of tropical storms roughly correspond to storm intensity, with colder temperatures above generally indicating a more intense storm below.

Quoting 98. JohnLonergan:
Storm expert says climate change may have played a big role in Typhoon Haiyan after all



(L) Satellite image of Typhoon Haiyan, superimposed on the spot in the Gulf of Mexico where Hurricane Katrina reached its maximum strength in 2005, and (R) actual satellite image of Katrina. Colors correspond to temperatures in Celsius. Temperatures at the tops of tropical storms roughly correspond to storm intensity, with colder temperatures above generally indicating a more intense storm below.

We've heard that climate change likely played a very minor role in the havoc that typhoon Haiyan wrought on the Philippines.


Emanuel and his colleagues took a computer model they use to forecast the wind speeds in a storm like Haiyan and ran it with the thermodynamic conditions that were present 30 years ago, in the 1980s, before the warming of the last few decades. They compared it to the model using current conditions.

And when we do that, Emanuel tells The World,we find that the wind speeds are about ten pecent larger now.

That's because warmer surface temperatures essentially provide more fuel for tropical storms.

Emanuel says the destructive potential of a windstorm goes up quickly with wind speed,so that really corresponds to something like 30 to 40% more damage than the same exact event might've done had it occurred in the thermal environment of the 1980s.

So does that mean climate change was responsible for this much greater damage?

Not necessarily, Emanuel says, but it's suspect #1.


Audio of complete interview
we now have Winter Storm Cleon

Link
1149. 47n91w
Quoting hydrus:
Good evening VR. It has been a very long time since I have seen a massive arctic blast similar to the ones from the 1970,s..They have become less frequent in my opinion.


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE Missoula MT
343 AM MST Sun Dec 1 2013

As the winds die off on Wednesday, temperatures will be some of
the coldest felt in the last couple of years.
I am sure the first street cars in New Orleans were horse-drawn. The first electric power generation plant in the U.S. was opened on Pearl Street in Manhattan on September 4, 1882.

Quoting 1146. Patrap:
Been Electric streetcars here since 1835

Why Did Some Streetcars Survive When Most Didn't?
ERIC JAFFEOCT 28, 2011




Still, the mere fact that streetcars not only escaped extinction but are now mounting a comeback speaks to the transit mode's allure. The country's oldest continually operating line may offer some insight into this survival-turned-revival. That's the St. Charles Avenue streetcar line in New Orleans, which has continued to clang since 1835. In the weeks after Hurricane Katrina, it was even pulled by horses. Today, it still glides along a grassy median on the avenue, through the city's Garden District and toward the French Quarter.
1151. hydrus
Quoting 1132. Dakster:


With all those moulins is really that much of a shock?
I said nice, not shocked..:)
1152. Patrap
I'll edit that as it was a erroneous error by me.


Thanks



A 1917 view of a New York horsecar on the left and an electric streetcar on the right on Broadway near 17th Street


1153. Dakster
Quoting 1151. hydrus:
I said nice, not shocked..:)


I was talking to the person that wrote the article...

:)

I know you were not shocked.
1154. Dakster
Quoting 1146. Patrap:
Been streetcars here since 1835

Why Did Some Streetcars Survive When Most Didn't?
ERIC JAFFEOCT 28, 2011




Still, the mere fact that streetcars not only escaped extinction but are now mounting a comeback speaks to the transit mode's allure. The country's oldest continually operating line may offer some insight into this survival-turned-revival. That's the St. Charles Avenue streetcar line in New Orleans, which has continued to clang since 1835. In the weeks after Hurricane Katrina, it was even pulled by horses. Today, it still glides along a grassy median on the avenue, through the city's Garden District and toward the French Quarter.


I guess they don't make them like they used. That looks pretty good for being in service since 1835.

This what should have really happen in 2013 if the storms should have stengthen.Link Sadly we knew the outcome.
Quoting 1155. allancalderini:
This what should have really happen in 2013 if the storms should have stengthen.Link Sadly we knew the outcome.
Oh well, maybe we will have an active year next year.
Quoting 1155. allancalderini:
This what should have really happen in 2013 if the storms should have stengthen.Link Sadly we knew the outcome.

Still a terribly boring season.
1158. beell
Quoting 1157. TropicalAnalystwx13:

Still a terribly boring season.


A downcaster's dream season.
Quoting 1157. TropicalAnalystwx13:

Still a terribly boring season.

Although Karen would have been interesting
1160. hydrus
Quoting 1153. Dakster:


I was talking to the person that wrote the article...

:)

I know you were not shocked.
*&^%^%$&%^%&%*^..:)
1161. hydrus
A good and safe night to all...zzzzz
They Killed Hershel!!! NO!!!!!!
GFS is showing what could be the first significant winter storm for SW Ohio this season.


126 hours out: Around a half a foot (6") of snow over my area.

There's a big blackout in North Asheville including campus for 3 hours now. My phone finally died so I am on my fully charged laptop now with internet thankfully still on. However, power isn't working so I can't charge... I hope the power comes back on soon, but I'm hearing it'll not happen until midnight.
1165. Dakster
Quoting 1164. Bluestorm5:
There's a big blackout in North Asheville including campus for 3 hours now. My phone finally died so I am on my fully charged laptop now with internet thankfully still on. However, power isn't working so I can't charge... I hope the power comes back on soon, but I'm hearing it'll not happen until midnight.


I hope you get your power back on soon. No generator?
Quoting 1165. Dakster:


I hope you get your power back on soon. No generator?
We do have generators, but it's still limited. No power to outlets so I can't charge my stuff.
Quoting 1162. PensacolaDoug:
They Killed Hershel!!! NO!!!!!!

Come one, Doug! Some of us haven't seen the new episode yet! :-(
Sprinkled half the day in Melbourne. Only had 0.25". South of me got poured on.


1254 PM HEAVY RAIN 1 SE VERO BEACH AIRPORT 27.64N 80.41W
12/01/2013 M5.46 INCH INDIAN RIVER FL EMERGENCY MNGR

5.46 INCHES OF RAIN BETWEEN 912AM AND 1254PM.
1169. Patrap
# 1167

Some Murican's have self control and empathy issues.

: )



Quoting 1160. hydrus:
*&^%^%$&%^%&%*^..:)
I don't know what language this is in, but good night to you sir. :D
Quoting 1164. Bluestorm5:
There's a big blackout in North Asheville including campus for 3 hours now. My phone finally died so I am on my fully charged laptop now with internet thankfully still on. However, power isn't working so I can't charge... I hope the power comes back on soon, but I'm hearing it'll not happen until midnight.


How is there internet with no power? O.o
Quoting 1147. Patrap:

(L)Satellite image of Typhoon Haiyan, superimposed on the spot in the Gulf of Mexico where Hurricane Katrina reached its maximum strength in 2005, and (R) actual satellite image of Katrina. Colors correspond to temperatures in Celsius. Temperatures at the tops of tropical storms roughly correspond to storm intensity, with colder temperatures above generally indicating a more intense storm below.

Good grief Patrap, I can only imagine the panic that would ensue if such a beast came stomping into the Gulf, let alone set it's sight on the Houston/Galveston area. Would make the reaction to Rita look like a dress rehearsal.
Quoting 1171. VAbeachhurricanes:


How is there internet with no power? O.o


Generators support internet and few lights. Just no power to outlets.
Quoting 1173. Bluestorm5:


Generators support internet and few lights. Just no power to outlets.


Awesome, my university wouldnt use generator power on internet.
Quoting 1174. VAbeachhurricanes:


Awesome, my university wouldnt use generator power on internet.
I'm just thankful I don't have an assignment this week. Just few more exams and I'm heading back home again.
1176. Dakster
Stay safe Blue... Surprised no one has found or made a 110V outlet to use. ;)

I forgot you were back at school.
Why not...

Quoting 1176. Dakster:
Stay safe Blue... Surprised no one has found or made a 110V outlet to use. ;)

I forgot you were back at school.
Yeah, I got back here today... what a welcome back, huh? At least I saw some snow on ground :)
Radar shows that Oahu is slowly drying out while the heavy showers begin to move into the island of Molokai. Virtually the entire area of Kauai received over 3 inches of rain during the last 24 hours. Although some areas saw over 5 inches. The highest rainfall total over the past 24 hours was 7.42 inches on Mount Waialeale. Oahu received 1-2 inches of rain in the past 12 hours.

Here is the rainfall summary as of 5:45 pm HST.
1180. Dakster
Quoting 1178. Bluestorm5:
Yeah, I got back here today... what a welcome back, huh? At least I saw some snow on ground :)


You should always look at the bright side of things. You got back safe, you saw snow, you don't have anything "due" tomorrow...

Everything else will work its way out in due time.

Good learning lesson for life in general, now that you are out on your own.
Quoting 1162. PensacolaDoug:
They Killed Hershel!!! NO!!!!!!


Who is Hershel?
If Herschel becomes a walker can we call him Herschel Walker?
Quoting 1176. Dakster:
Stay safe Blue... Surprised no one has found or made a 110V outlet to use. ;)

I forgot you were back at school.


you're off by 10 V :)
1184. JRRP


Quoting 1182. BaltimoreBrian:
If Herschel becomes a walker can we call him Herschel Walker?


Well if someone announces that Herschel is dead, my first reaction would be a famous Herschel, the only one I know of is Herschel Walker, but I'm not aware of him dying.

Who is Herschel becomes yet an even bigger question now.
Quoting 1185. Jedkins01:


Well if someone announces that Herschel is dead, my first reaction would be a famous Herschel, the only one I know of is Herschel Walker, but I'm not aware of him dying.

Who is Herschel becomes yet an even bigger question now.


The walking dead.
Apparently a raccoon chewed up something that knocked out the power according to UNCA. Lights haven't returned yet since it went out 5 hours ago. Thankfully my computer battery only drained 25% in 2 hours it's on. Still got 75% left.
Hershel was a beloved major character on "The Walking Dead" killed off in the mid-season finale this past evening. Zombies are called 'walkers' in the show.
Hey Nathan... remember where you asked me to smile, and even sent me a motivational picture in order to get me to do it? And you remember how mean to you I was, when you were only trying to help?

My guilty conscience got the best of me. All for you, bruh. All for you*. <3



*What, did you really think there wouldn't be a catch? This is me we're talking about here. ;)

What's the catch? 'Twas a forced smile. I don't like those.

So if anyone thinks they have witnessed the birth of a non-jaded/grouchy/cynical version of Kori, they're... well... they're wrong.

Sorry to disappoint? But I still wubs you all enough to post a picture. Especially you Nathan. Especially you. <3
Try screwing in an adapter into a working light socket that accepts a plug. Nice to have on hand.
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Apparently a raccoon chewed up something that knocked out the power according to UNCA. Lights haven't returned yet since it went out 5 hours ago. Thankfully my computer battery only drained 25% in 2 hours it's on. Still got 75% left.
Pretty miserable weather here in Malaysia.

I've never seen a day greyer than this.
Quoting 1157. TropicalAnalystwx13:

Still a terribly boring season.
I know but at least it would be much better than the season we had.haha come on two majors is better than none.
Quoting 1189. KoritheMan:
Hey Nathan... remember where you asked me to smile, and even sent me a motivational picture in order to get me to do it? And you remember how mean to you I was, when you were only trying to help?

My guilty conscience got the best of me. All for you, bruh. All for you*. <3



*What, did you really think there wouldn't be a catch? This is me we're talking about here. ;)

What's the catch? 'Twas a forced smile. I don't like those.

So if anyone thinks they have witnessed the birth of a non-jaded/grouchy/cynical version of Kori, they're... well... they're wrong.

Sorry to disappoint? But I still wubs you all enough to post a picture. Especially you Nathan. Especially you. <3


You still smiled. Thank you Kori for the gesture. Most appreciated over here.

Quoting 1155. allancalderini:
This what should have really happen in 2013 if the storms should have stengthen.Link Sadly we knew the outcome.
Season still fails because a Category 2 Gulf of Mexico hurricane passes just east of me.

Quoting 1193. Astrometeor:


You still smiled. Thank you Kori for the gesture. Most appreciated over here.
My post with the photo was sarcastic, but my intent was definitely genuine.

See ya later, bud.
Quoting 1146. Patrap:
Been streetcars here since 1835

Why Did Some Streetcars Survive When Most Didn't?
ERIC JAFFEOCT 28, 2011




Still, the mere fact that streetcars not only escaped extinction but are now mounting a comeback speaks to the transit mode's allure. The country's oldest continually operating line may offer some insight into this survival-turned-revival. That's the St. Charles Avenue streetcar line in New Orleans, which has continued to clang since 1835. In the weeks after Hurricane Katrina, it was even pulled by horses. Today, it still glides along a grassy median on the avenue, through the city's Garden District and toward the French Quarter.


ours are gold & red :)
1197. LargoFl
Good Morning..........
Good morning, afternoon and evening everyone. A balmy 60 degrees this morning with a high of 73 later on. Humidity is 90%. My daughter-in-law and I spent the weekend in Alexandria, La. to do Christmas shopping. The weather was gorgeous sweater weather. The best part was we were able to get all of what we wanted on the Black Friday deals without the crowds; they were gone by the time we got there Friday and almost all the deals were still on for Saturday as well. Cyber Monday doesn't do me much good since I can't do a thing from school. But I'm pretty much done anyway.

Breakfast's on the table: cheesy grits and shrimp, regular or whole wheat English muffins with poached egg whites, low fat cheese, ham, tomato and sauce, whole wheat pancakes with fruit sauce, egg burritos with cheese and chorizo, Belgian waffles with strawberries or powdered sugar, croissants, bagels with cream cheese and strawberry jelly or lox, cheese Danishes, yogurt, fresh fruit and orange, apple or pineapple juice. Regular and decaf coffee with flavored creamers to the side. Enjoy!
1199. VR46L
Quoting 1197. LargoFl:
Good Morning..........


Morning Largo !

Nice temps there


And Good Morning All!
1200. VR46L
Possible Noreaster building ?




1201. VR46L
I don't like this setup ....





1202. hydrus
Quoting 1200. VR46L:
Possible Noreaster building ?




A low is expected, but nothing as strong as a Nor,easter..


Short Range Forecast Discussion
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
332 AM EST Mon Dec 02 2013

Valid 12Z Mon Dec 02 2013 - 12Z Wed Dec 04 2013

...Heavy snow will be possible across the higher terrain of the West along
with the Northern Plains/Upper Midwest...

...Well below normal temperatures should be commonplace across the West...

A fairly busy start to the first few days of meteorological winter which
commenced December 1st. The current National Weather Service hazards
paints this picture quite well with a myriad of winter storm
watches/warnings/advisories in place over much of the West and
North-Central U.S. A potent upper low currently crossing Vancouver Island
is forecast to continue dropping southward into the Pacific Northwest.
This system will help draw arctic air south of the U.S./Canadian border
which should bring quite the chill to the air early this week. Strong
vertical lift in response to the upper low will bring widespread
precipitation to much of the western states with topography aiding in
additional lift through orographic effects. The modestly high snow levels
to begin the event will quickly come down as the arctic air mass
infiltrates the region. It appears wintry precipitation will be possible
into the valley locales of the Intermountain West although the heftiest
accumulations are forecast to remain in the higher terrain. During the
next couple of days, the WPC winter weather desk suggests 12 to 18 inches
of snow will be possible over the Tetons, Wasatch, and Colorado Rockies.

As the aforementioned upper low drops down from Vancouver Island into the
Pacific Northwest, forecast models suggest the disturbance will split into
two. One of these impulses will be responsible for the unsettled
conditions over the Western U.S. while the other should shift eastward
toward the Northern Plains. The latter location is forecast to have better
access to low-level moisture as the Gulf of Mexico brings sufficient
return flow to the Central U.S. Temperatures are expected to be plenty
supportive for snow as the dominant precipitation type with over a foot
possible across much of Northern Minnesota.

The arctic intrusion will bring very chilly temperatures to the
Western/Central U.S. Although the air mass will modify in time, readings
will remain well below normal with highs by Wednesday only in the lower
single digits across the Upper Intermountain West, Northern Rockies, and
sections of the Northern Plains. Lows will easily plunge into the negative
teens in the some of the coldest locations. Meanwhile, even the lower
valley locations across the Central Great Basin can expect highs in the
20s.

The only other major system affecting the map is a coastal storm which
should be just far enough off the coast to only produce limited effects.
The area which could be grazed by the cyclone is coastal Maine with
heavier precipitation falling in close proximity to the mainland.


Rubin-Oster
Good Morning all.
1204. VR46L
Quoting 1202. hydrus:
A low is expected, but nothing as strong as a Nor,easter..


Short Range Forecast Discussion
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
332 AM EST Mon Dec 02 2013

Valid 12Z Mon Dec 02 2013 - 12Z Wed Dec 04 2013

...Heavy snow will be possible across the higher terrain of the West along
with the Northern Plains/Upper Midwest...

...Well below normal temperatures should be commonplace across the West...

A fairly busy start to the first few days of meteorological winter which
commenced December 1st. The current National Weather Service hazards
paints this picture quite well with a myriad of winter storm
watches/warnings/advisories in place over much of the West and
North-Central U.S. A potent upper low currently crossing Vancouver Island
is forecast to continue dropping southward into the Pacific Northwest.
This system will help draw arctic air south of the U.S./Canadian border
which should bring quite the chill to the air early this week. Strong
vertical lift in response to the upper low will bring widespread
precipitation to much of the western states with topography aiding in
additional lift through orographic effects. The modestly high snow levels
to begin the event will quickly come down as the arctic air mass
infiltrates the region. It appears wintry precipitation will be possible
into the valley locales of the Intermountain West although the heftiest
accumulations are forecast to remain in the higher terrain. During the
next couple of days, the WPC winter weather desk suggests 12 to 18 inches
of snow will be possible over the Tetons, Wasatch, and Colorado Rockies.

As the aforementioned upper low drops down from Vancouver Island into the
Pacific Northwest, forecast models suggest the disturbance will split into
two. One of these impulses will be responsible for the unsettled
conditions over the Western U.S. while the other should shift eastward
toward the Northern Plains. The latter location is forecast to have better
access to low-level moisture as the Gulf of Mexico brings sufficient
return flow to the Central U.S. Temperatures are expected to be plenty
supportive for snow as the dominant precipitation type with over a foot
possible across much of Northern Minnesota.

The arctic intrusion will bring very chilly temperatures to the
Western/Central U.S. Although the air mass will modify in time, readings
will remain well below normal with highs by Wednesday only in the lower
single digits across the Upper Intermountain West, Northern Rockies, and
sections of the Northern Plains. Lows will easily plunge into the negative
teens in the some of the coldest locations. Meanwhile, even the lower
valley locations across the Central Great Basin can expect highs in the
20s.

The only other major system affecting the map is a coastal storm which
should be just far enough off the coast to only produce limited effects.
The area which could be grazed by the cyclone is coastal Maine with
heavier precipitation falling in close proximity to the mainland.


Rubin-Oster


Sound , Its to wrap into a Nasty over on my side of the water ... they are starting to sound the alarm bells now for next week !

Where's my massive cold blast!
I'm mongering!
1206. hydrus
Quoting 1204. VR46L:


Sound , Its to wrap into a Nasty over on my side of the water ... they are starting to sound the alarm bells now for the end of the week !
If I remember right, you are from Ireland. North Atlantic is known around the world for its huge powerful storms and rough seas, in fact, Scotland held the record at one time for the strongest wind gust from a non tropical low at 134 mph. Storms are a significant part of your countries history. I have read a lot about it. We have Irish Wolfhounds, and have had for over 20 years. They are absolutely awesome.
1207. VR46L
Quoting 1205. PensacolaDoug:
Where's my massive cold blast!
I'm mongering!


Not happening for ya ! You miss the Fun

1208. hydrus
Quoting 1205. PensacolaDoug:
Where's my massive cold blast!
I'm mongering!
Good morning Doug. Your cold air should arrive in about a week.:)..At least colder than it is now.
Quoting 1208. hydrus:
Good morning Doug. Your cold air should arrive in about a week.:)


WOOT WOOT!
1210. LargoFl
Quoting 1206. hydrus:
If I remember right, you are from Ireland. North Atlantic is known around the world for its huge powerful storms and rough seas, in fact, Scotland held the record at one time for the strongest wind gust from a non tropical low at 134 mph. Storms are a significant part of your countries history. I have read a lot about it. We have Irish Wolfhounds, and have had for over 20 years. They are absolutely awesome.
OH WOW I watched a movie that had Irish wolfhounds in it..what a beautiful animal it is
1211. LargoFl
1212. hydrus
Quoting 1209. PensacolaDoug:


WOOT WOOT!
Since it is slow today. What intsrument do you play Doug.? Someone said you were in a band.
1213. VR46L
Quoting 1206. hydrus:
If I remember right, you are from Ireland. North Atlantic is known around the world for its huge powerful storms and rough seas, in fact, Scotland held the record at one time for the strongest wind gust from a non tropical low at 134 mph. Storms are a significant part of your countries history. I have read a lot about it. We have Irish Wolfhounds, and have had for over 20 years. They are absolutely awesome.


Yep , We kind of shrug at gusts of 70 mph its a way of life here . but we do not comprehend what a 70 mph sustained tropical storm means ... as they very different animals . I guess I find myself sniggering at drama over 35 mph gusts ,I know its wrong to but sometimes the hype even on this side of the water . when its something that happens once a month from autumn though spring can be annoying ! so I laugh
Quoting 1212. hydrus:
Since it is slow today. What intsrument do you play Doug.? Someone said you were in a band.



Keyboards.
I got songs on ITUNES and a few other places.
1215. LargoFl
7-day for Tampa Bay..no freezing temps This week huh..
1216. beell
Current GFS 180 hr Forecast Precip Type

(click for full image)
Yes!.D.C is back in the blue again.Keep it that way nature..
I played for a living for 25 years. I quit 2 years ago to take a day job because I didn't want to be dependent on Club owners for a living. I work for Orkin these days. I still record in my home studio and play occasional pick-up gigs.
Quoting 1216. beell:
Current GFS 180 hr Forecast Precip Type

(click for full image)
I see a band of Orange and yellow over my area.Is that all rain again?
1220. hydrus
Quoting 1210. LargoFl:
OH WOW I watched a movie that had Irish wolfhounds in it..what a beautiful animal it is
They are the most loving loyal animals I have ever seen. They are very large though. We have had many taller than 3 foot at the shoulder, and well over 200 lbs.. I do not have pictures of our own to post now, but here is an oldie.
1221. hydrus
Quoting 1213. VR46L:


Yep , We kind of shrug at gusts of 70 mph its a way of life here . but we do not comprehend what a 70 mph sustained tropical storm means ... as they very different animals . I guess I find myself sniggering at drama over 35 mph gusts ,I know its wrong to but sometimes the hype even on this side of the water . when its something that happens once a month from autumn though spring can be annoying ! so I laugh
I have been in 165 to 170 mph during Charley..There are no words really...
Quoting 1220. hydrus:
They are the most loving loyal animals I have ever seen. They are very large though. We have had many taller than 3 foot at the shoulder, and well over 200 lbs.. I do not have pictures of our own to post now, but here is an oldie.


That pic is enough to make CUJO run the other way!
1223. beell
Quoting 1219. washingtonian115:
I see a band of Orange and yellow over my area.Is that all rain again?



4 panel graphic. Snow is upper right. The "stuck-in-place positive tilt trough offers up a wide range of precip placement this week depending on where a multitude of disturbances kick out towards the east.

A dancing bear is a good avy for now.
:)
1224. VR46L
Quoting 1221. hydrus:
I have been in 165 to 170 mph during Charley..There are no words really...


I can't even begin to realise what that was like !
Quoting 1220. hydrus:
They are the most loving loyal animals I have ever seen. They are very large though. We have had many taller than 3 foot at the shoulder, and well over 200 lbs.. I do not have pictures of our own to post now, but here is an oldie.

I love big dogs, but their lifespans are usually pretty short...and I get attached to my critters.
1226. VR46L
Very warm week ahead for C FL. These temps are 10 degree above average. This coming after a very warm November where temps ranged in the TOP 10!

1228. hydrus
Quoting 1225. Birthmark:

I love big dogs, but their lifespans are usually pretty short...and I get attached to my critters.
I know. That is one of the hardest things about having them. The life span is approx 7 years.I love my hounds and when I loose one it is devastating for me.
1229. hydrus
Quoting 1222. PensacolaDoug:


That pic is enough to make CUJO run the other way!
They are VERY powerful. I have had them snap heavy leads. Then they just look at you as if nothing happened.
1230. hydrus
Quoting 1214. PensacolaDoug:



Keyboards.
I got songs on ITUNES and a few other places.
I play guitar, french horn and trumpet..Strange combo.?..:)
1231. hydrus
Quoting 1224. VR46L:


I can't even begin to realise what that was like !
The area where I lived then was forever altered. I grew up there and its tough seeing the place you love destroyed.
Quoting 1230. hydrus:
I play guitar, french horn and trumpet..Strange combo.?..:)


I played trumpet for two years in band. I wasn't very good. I use all of those sounds in my recordings tho.. I play em on keys!
Quoting 1231. hydrus:
The area where I lived then was forever altered. I grew up there and its tough seeing the place you love destroyed.


Rgr that! My neighborhood got "IVANIZED" severely.
Here it comes.
7 day forecast for Corpus Christ Tx.
1235. hydrus
Quoting 1232. PensacolaDoug:


I played trumpet for two years in band. I wasn't very good. I use all of those sounds in my recordings tho.. I play em on keys!
Our whole family loves music. Every generation played something. My Dad played with the Young Rascals for a bit in the 60,s.
1236. hydrus
Quoting 1233. PensacolaDoug:


Rgr that! My neighborhood got "IVANIZED" severely.
My heart goes out to anyone that has been devastated by a natural disaster.
Quoting 1235. hydrus:
Our whole family loves music. Every generation played something. My Dad played with the Young Rascals for a bit in the 60,s.


Very Cool!


Best known band I ever played in was "Ba'nana Republic." We had a good rep and following along the gulf coast and southeast all thru the 90's.
1238. pcola57

1239. Torito
TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
705 AM EST MON DEC 2 2013


TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN SECTIONS OF
SOUTH AMERICA...AND ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE AFRICAN COAST FROM THE
EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED ON SATELLITE
IMAGERY...WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...RADAR...AND METEOROLOGICAL
ANALYSIS.

BASED ON 0600 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
1115 UTC.

...ITCZ/MONSOON TROUGH...
THE MONSOON TROUGH AXIS EXTENDS FROM AFRICAN COAST NEAR 07N11W
TO 06N22W. THE INTERTROPICAL CONVERGENCE ZONE AXIS EXTENDS FROM
06N22W TO SOUTH AMERICAN COAST NEAR 04N52W. SCATTERED MODERATE
ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION FROM 03N-07N BETWEEN 23W-44W.

...DISCUSSION...

GULF OF MEXICO...
AN UPPER LEVEL ANTICYCLONE CENTERED OVER SOUTHERN MEXICO NEAR
19N100W IS SUPPORTING RELATIVELY DRY N-NW FLOW ALOFT. CLOUDINESS
AND UPPER LEVEL MOISTURE REMAINS TO THE NORTH OVER THE COASTAL
PLAIN WHILE A SURFACE RIDGE EXTENDS SW ACROSS THE SOUTHEASTERN
U.S. TO EAST-CENTRAL MEXICO. WEAK HIGH PRES IS CENTERED OVER THE
CENTRAL GULF NEAR 24N93W. FAIR WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
TO CONTINUE THROUGH TUE...WITH LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS NEAR THE
HIGH CENTER WHICH IS EXPECTED TO DRIFT EASTWARD TOWARD FLORIDA.
SOUTHERLY RETURN FLOW WILL DEVELOP TONIGHT AND TUE ACROSS THE
WESTERN GULF THEN SPREAD EASTWARD WED AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
BEGINS TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL U.S. PLAINS.

CARIBBEAN SEA...
CONDITIONS ACROSS THE CARIBBEAN REMAIN FAIRLY QUIET AND TRANQUIL
UNDER MOSTLY DRY AND STABLE AIR ASSOCIATED WITH W-NW FLOW ALOFT.
THE UPPER LEVEL FLOW BECOMES A BIT MORE W-SW AND DIFFLUENT OVER
THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN. ISOLATED SHOWERS ARE LOCATED IN THE GULF
OF HONDURAS WHERE LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE CONVERGENCE IS STRONGEST. A
FAIRLY WEAK PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL MAINTAIN ITSELF THROUGH WED
WITH TRADE WINDS REMAINING GENERALLY IN THE 10-15 KT RANGE.

...HISPANIOLA...
RELATIVELY LIGHT TRADE WINDS AND UPPER LEVEL SUBSIDENCE ARE
MAINTAINING FAIR WEATHER OVER HISPANIOLA. LITTLE CHANGE EXPECTED
THROUGH TUE. SAT IMAGERY SHOWS A FEW SHOWERS EAST OF THE MONA
PASSAGE WHICH ARE DRIFTING WESTWARD AND DISSIPATING...ASSOCIATED
WITH UPPER DIVERGENCE E OF A SHORT WAVE FROM 27N65W TO 19N70W.

ATLANTIC OCEAN...
UPPER LEVEL SHORT WAVE TROUGH NOTED ON WATER VAPOR IMAGERY ALONG
65W-67W EXTENDING TO NEAR 20N SUPPORTING SURFACE TROUGH ANALYZED
FROM 30N65W TO 18N68W. LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE CONVERGENCE NEAR THE
TROUGH AXIS ALONG WITH SOME DIFFLUENCE ALOFT ASSOCIATED WITH THE
UPPER TROUGH IS GENERATING A LARGE AREA OF CLOUDS AND ISOLATED
SHOWERS N OF 23N BETWEEN 50W-65W. WEAK TROUGH EXTENDS SOUTHWARD
FROM 1014 MB LOW NEAR 38N78W MOVING OFF SOUTH CAROLINA. COASTAL
RADARS SHOW FEW SHOWERS EMBEDDED IN EXTENSIVE UPPER CLOUDINESS.
A DEEP LAYER LOW CENTERED NEAR 32N25W SUPPORTS A BROAD AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE. PAIR OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERS WILL MERGE N OF THE
FORECAST AREA NEAR 34N25W LATER TODAY. WIDELY SCATTERED SHALLOW
SHOWER ACTIVITY IS OCCURRING N OF 28N BETWEEN 16W-26W.

1240. Torito
The ECWMF is still showing snow for D.C.I don't believe that..
1242. Torito
Tomorrow's TCFP.

India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
14:30 PM IST December 2 2013
============================

The well marked low pressure area over central parts of south Bay of Bengal persists.

Prediction of Meteorological Condition
--------------------------------------
The well marked low pressure area over central parts of south Bay of Bengal would concentrate into a depression during next 24 hours
Quoting 1240. Torito:
Looks like a developing West Southwester.
1245. Torito
Gfs 63 hours.

Some interesting wording from NWS Riverton WY in regards to this week's coming Arctic blast:

NOW FOR POSSIBLY THE BIGGEST EFFECT...THE COMING OF THE BITTERLY
COLD TEMPERATURES FOR MUCH OF THE AREA. AFTER A MILD DAY TODAY...THE
TEMPERATURES WILL NOT BE A SLAP IN THE FACE...MORE LIKE AN UPPERCUT
TO THE JAW FROM MIKE TYSON.
TEMPERATURES WILL PLUMMET AFTER THE
FRONTAL PASSAGE TONIGHT. AND...WITH STRONG COLD ADVECTION CONTINUING
INTO TUESDAY...TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE TO FALL DURING THE DAY ON
TUESDAY. BY LATE TUESDAY NIGHT...SOME PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY WARNING
COULD BE AS MUCH AS 60 DEGREES COLDER THAN THE HIGH TEMPERATURES
TODAY...ALL THIS IN AROUND 36 HOURS. BY EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING 700
MILLIBAR TEMPERATURES OF MINUS 20 WILL SPREAD ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA
AND AS A RESULT LOW TEMPERATURES BELOW ZERO ARE EXPECTED TO BE
WIDESPREAD BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. TEMPERATURES ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON
WILL LIKELY NOT RISE TO ZERO IN A LOT OF AREAS. EVEN COLDER
TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH TEENS BELOW ZERO
IN MANY LOCATIONS. STILL A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY AS TO HOW COLD THINGS
WILL GET...SINCE A LOT DEPENDS ON SNOW COVER. 4 TO 6 INCHES OF SNOW
COULD BRING BRUTAL COLD WITH A STRONG ALBEDO AND GOOD RADIATIONAL
COOLING. ONLY AN INCH OR TWO OF SNOW FALLS...NOT QUITE AS MUCH BIT
STILL PRETTY DARN COLD. IF THE BREEZE KEEPS UP...WE COULD BE LOOKING
AT POSSIBLE WIND CHILL WARNINGS FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. WITH
THIS UNCERTAINTY...WE MADE FEW CHANGES TO CONTINUITY.
REGARDLESS...IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE COLDEST STRETCHES OF WEATHER
IN QUITE A WHILE.
it would seem brr creek would be right up your alley then pen. doug. will we see the sun again in e cen fl?
1248. Torito
1249. Torito
Just looking through satellite websites, i happened to find a really old archive.... I believe this is the last satellite image THE OLD GOMS picked up in 1998 before it was shut down forever...

Quoting 1247. islander101010:
it would seem brr creek would be right up your alley then pen. doug. will we see the sun again in e cen fl?


It's gotta push pretty far south and east to get me but cold air is heavy. Time will tell how much of it gets here.
1251. ricderr
Where's Keep?......3 day convective outlook shows a general risk for the south day three.......models from last week might just pan out
1252. Pallis
Quoting 1225. Birthmark:

I love big dogs, but their lifespans are usually pretty short...and I get attached to my critters.
Adopt a gopher tortoise. Just look for a new development going up and grab one before it gets run over. They will probably outlive you.
1253. Torito
94w.

1254. hydrus
Should be in the upper 70's here today but looking a freezing by Saturday, life in Houston I guess.  Glad to see you are a wolfie fan Hydrus, we had 2 when the kids were small. I had a small business and took both dogs and kids to work with me every day. Our wonderful Wolfhounds not only put up with children learning how to walk by holding on to their fur and napping on them but always stayed between them and danger. Knew how to imply threat with out having to do more than stand and stare. Would also grab an arm and lead the kids to a safer area if they felt danger. Marvelous companions. Katie lived to be 11 years old and Cierra only made it to 8 years due to a stomach torsion.
1256. Torito
Quoting 1254. hydrus:



I'll take the snow system 150 hours out.. Let's hope that it doesn't get dropped soon...
I'm currently working on a project for my college seminar class about how media shapes public opinion on climate change. Does anyone have any good articles or sources related to this topic, from either side of the spectrum. Basically, my idea is to show that people have their opinion on climate change shaped one way or another by news outlets such as MSNBC, Fox News, HuffPost, etc.


NOTE: I'm not trying to deny the fact that humans are causing climate change, I just want to show a major reason why some people still deny it.

Thanks!
Quoting 1213. VR46L:


Yep , We kind of shrug at gusts of 70 mph its a way of life here . but we do not comprehend what a 70 mph sustained tropical storm means ... as they very different animals . I guess I find myself sniggering at drama over 35 mph gusts ,I know its wrong to but sometimes the hype even on this side of the water . when its something that happens once a month from autumn though spring can be annoying ! so I laugh


Could you imagine those 35 mph winds, but in -10F degree weather like the Midwest is gonna feel. That's a cold I hope I never have to feel. Bone shuttering cold.
Quoting 1257. WxGeekVA:
I'm currently working on a project for my college seminar class about how media shapes public opinion on climate change. Does anyone have any good articles or sources related to this topic, from either side of the spectrum. Basically, my idea is to show that people have their opinion on climate change shaped one way or another by news outlets such as MSNBC, Fox News, HuffPost, etc.


NOTE: I'm not trying to deny the fact that humans are causing climate change, I just want to show a major reason why some people still deny it.

Thanks!


I'd focus how they mostly use Headlines and two liners to get their point across. The average reader doesn't intently read most articles. So if an article says "Coldest month in 30 years" or "Warmest month in 30 years" People will probably pick up those points without getting most of the context involved in the article.
Quoting 1257. WxGeekVA:
I'm currently working on a project for my college seminar class about how media shapes public opinion on climate change. Does anyone have any good articles or sources related to this topic, from either side of the spectrum. Basically, my idea is to show that people have their opinion on climate change shaped one way or another by news outlets such as MSNBC, Fox News, HuffPost, etc.


NOTE: I'm not trying to deny the fact that humans are causing climate change, I just want to show a major reason why some people still deny it.

Thanks!
There are a number of reasons, I think: ideological, psychological, financial, religious, inertial, etc. Here are links to a few pretty good articles on the subject:

-Why the World Won't Listen

-Why do people still deny climate change

-The Science of Truthiness: Why Conservatives Deny Global Warming

-The 5 stages of climate denial are on display ahead of the IPCC report

-The Battle Over Global Warming Is All in Your Head

-Why Smart People Deny Climate Change

-Who's Bankrolling the Climate-Change Deniers?

-THE KOCH BROTHERS: FUNDING $67,042,064 TO GROUPS DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE SINCE 1997.
1262. ricderr
I'd focus how they mostly use Headlines and two liners to get their point across






that's why roods blog and even here end up in little more than an argument....i hold that the average person does not have a clue as to a major understanding of climate change

1263. Torito
Quoting 1257. WxGeekVA:
I'm currently working on a project for my college seminar class about how media shapes public opinion on climate change. Does anyone have any good articles or sources related to this topic, from either side of the spectrum. Basically, my idea is to show that people have their opinion on climate change shaped one way or another by news outlets such as MSNBC, Fox News, HuffPost, etc.


NOTE: I'm not trying to deny the fact that humans are causing climate change, I just want to show a major reason why some people still deny it.

Thanks!



What Drives Public Opinion About Climate Change?

Some really long study on the subject... might be useful.

Jump to page 36 on this document for the charts and other info that might be of use to you as well...
1264. Torito
Quoting 1260. Neapolitan:
There are a number of reasons, I think: ideological, psychological, financial, religious, inertial, etc. Here are links to a few pretty good articles on the subject:

-Why the World Won't Listen

-Why do people still deny climate change

-The Science of Truthiness: Why Conservatives Deny Global Warming

-The 5 stages of climate denial are on display ahead of the IPCC report

-The Battle Over Global Warming Is All in Your Head

-Why Smart People Deny Climate Change

-Who's Bankrolling the Climate-Change Deniers?

-THE KOCH BROTHERS: FUNDING $67,042,064 TO GROUPS DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE SINCE 1997.



Nea.... Use .org or .edu websites so the information is guaranteed to not be biased. ;)
1265. LargoFl
Quoting 1220. hydrus:
They are the most loving loyal animals I have ever seen. They are very large though. We have had many taller than 3 foot at the shoulder, and well over 200 lbs.. I do not have pictures of our own to post now, but here is an oldie.
yeah a beautiful LARGE animal alright..
1266. LargoFl
Irish Wolfhound..............
1267. pcola57
Quoting 1257. WxGeekVA:
I'm currently working on a project for my college seminar class about how media shapes public opinion on climate change. Does anyone have any good articles or sources related to this topic, from either side of the spectrum. Basically, my idea is to show that people have their opinion on climate change shaped one way or another by news outlets such as MSNBC, Fox News, HuffPost, etc.


NOTE: I'm not trying to deny the fact that humans are causing climate change, I just want to show a major reason why some people still deny it.

Thanks!


WU has a very good page for beginning your quest..


WU's Climate Change page
1268. Torito
Quoting 1267. pcola57:


WU has a very good page for beginning your quest..


WU's Climate Change page




Warming in store for me. :P

Link
Quoting 1252. Pallis:
Adopt a gopher tortoise. Just look for a new development going up and grab one before it gets run over. They will probably outlive you.

I don't know. I'm pretty competitive.
1270. Torito

The Flood Warning continues for
the Santee river near Jamestown.

* At 7 PM Sunday the stage was 10.9 feet.
* Flood stage is 10.0 feet.
* Minor flooding is occurring.

* Forecast... the river will rise to near 11.2 feet by Monday morning.
The river will fall below flood stage early Friday morning.

* At 12.0 feet... several dirt logging roads become impassable.
1271. Torito
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting 1252. Pallis:
Adopt a gopher tortoise. Just look for a new development going up and grab one before it gets run over. They will probably outlive you.

Never had wolfhounds. Both my parents and grandparents had Great Danes and they lived to 9 years in the 40s (grandparents') and 50s-early 60s (parents). Veterinary care and nutrition has improved since then and 7 years seems awfully short even for a big dog. My shephard/golden mix lived to 14.8 and her mother (the golden retriever) lived to 13.
Quoting 1257. WxGeekVA:
I'm currently working on a project for my college seminar class about how media shapes public opinion on climate change. Does anyone have any good articles or sources related to this topic, from either side of the spectrum.

Thanks!


A good source is the Bad Astronomy blog by Phil Plait. He takes the entire denialist culture to task, and devotes quite a bit of print to why it happens. Another is Andy Revkins' DotEarth blog. Same deal, but cites many industry/political sources along the way.
1275. skipl
Quoting 1257. WxGeekVA:
I'm currently working on a project for my college seminar class about how media shapes public opinion on climate change. Does anyone have any good articles or sources related to this topic, from either side of the spectrum. Basically, my idea is to show that people have their opinion on climate change shaped one way or another by news outlets such as MSNBC, Fox News, HuffPost, etc.


NOTE: I'm not trying to deny the fact that humans are causing climate change, I just want to show a major reason why some people still deny it.

Thanks!


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