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Storm battering California sets record low pressure mark

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:53 PM GMT on January 21, 2010

One of the most powerful low pressure systems since record keeping began in the 1800s slammed the West Coast yesterday with hurricane-force wind gusts, large hail, and torrential rains that have created flash floods and dangerous debris flows. The storm, centered just offshore near the Oregon/California border this morning, set an all-time record for the lowest pressure ever recorded along the southern Oregon coast yesterday. Medford, Oregon hit a pressure of 978 mb (28.88") yesterday afternoon, beating their old lowest ever pressure of 28.93" set in 1995. Northern California came close to setting a new record for lowest pressure as well, as Eureka, California hit 980 mb (28.93"), nearly matching the old record of 979 mb (28.91") set on Feb 22, 1891.


Figure 1. Huge waves up to fifteen feet high slam ashore yesterday on Agate Beach, in Northern California. Image credit: wunderphotographer Tsurai.

The storm, the latest and strongest of a series of El Niño-fueled storms to assault California this week, is expected to bring heavy rains of 1 - 3 inches over much of of the state today, wind gusts of up to 45 mph near the coast, and heavy snows of 1 - 2 feet to the Sierras. Arizona is expected to receive heavy rains of up to five inches from the storm. The storm will wind down by Friday, and California will have brief respite Saturday, before the next storm hits on Sunday and Monday. Sunday's storm should be much weaker, and the state will get a chance to dry out Wednesday and Thursday. However, another parade of storm is forecast to impact the state beginning on Friday the 29th, according to the latest long-range forecasts of the GFS and ECMWF models.

Severe weather in central California
The cold front associated with the strong low swept inland yesterday afternoon over central California, triggering heavy thunderstorms that brought hail and heavy rains in excess of two inches to some locations. A rare tornado warning was issued for Morgan Hill in the San Francisco Bay area at 2:02pm, when Doppler radar revealed a rotating thunderstorm. No touchdown of a tornado occurred, though 1-inch hail was observed in Morgan Hill. The Storm Prediction Center (SPC) has placed Los Angeles and San Diego in the "Slight Risk" region for severe weather today. The primary severe weather risk will be damaging thunderstorm winds, though a few tornadoes and waterspouts may also occur.

Snowfall amounts of 1 - 2 feet were recorded in the Sierra Mountains yesterday, with up to 4 1/2 feet of snow expected to fall by the time the storm ends on Saturday. Some precipitation amounts from the storm, for the 4-day period ending at 4am PST today:

Major Cities:

Los Angeles 2.80
San Francisco 3.49
Sacramento 2.35
Eureka 2.78
San Diego 1.65
Fresno 1.33

Sierra Nevada sites:

Chilkoot Meadow 7.08
Kaiser Point 6.60
Tenaya Lake 6.54
Graveyard Meadow 5.64
Tamarack Summit 5.36
Yosemite Village 4.04

Tornadoes, severe weather in the South
Tornadoes tore through Texas and Louisiana yesterday, with one twister destroying several homes and businesses near in Waskom, Texas, near the Louisiana border. Fourteen tornado reports were received yesterday by the Storm Prediction Center (SPC). SPC has placed portions of Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Florida under their "Slight Risk" region for severe weather today. Already, there have been tornado warnings posted this morning for the Florida Panhandle, and southern Georgia.


Figure 2. Radar reflectivity from the Shreveport, LA radar last night shows the classic hook echo of the tornado that tore through Waskom, Texas.

Portlight successfully gets much-needed water filtration systems and medical supplies into Haiti
Portlight.org, the disaster-relief charity that has sprung up from the hard work and dedication of many members of the wunderground.com community, has successfully shipped medical equipment and a water filtration unit capable of supplying the needs of 3,500 people per day to the Dominican Republic, where was trucked to Haiti via road. These supplies have now made it to the earthquake zone, and have been targeted to go to those with disabilities, or who are living in areas where the main aid efforts have forgotten. Portlight is working through the local Catholic Church, which is probably best positioned to deliver private aid donations to those in need. Paul Timmons, leader of the Portlight relief efforts, wrote this to me yesterday:

Thanks to Wunderground blogger Dak Simonton (Dakster) we were made aware of Richard Lamarque, a Haitian expatriate and 15 year veteran of the Miami Police Department who was planning to go back to Haiti this week to look for family members and to help with recovery efforts. Our on scene coordinator, Richard Lamarque, will be leaving for Haiti in a few days. He is from there, is well connected there, and has a skill set and life experiences which will be invaluable to our work there.

We want this to be a uniquely Weather Underground community initiative. We will place WU signage on the truck...and we will be able to post photos of it at work in Haiti.

The Weather Underground community has been the genesis of our efforts. And the WU truck will be a long term, tangible symbol of the generosity of the WU community.



Figure 3. Walkers and medical supplies for Haiti getting ready to ship from the Portlight warehouse in Atlanta.

Thanks to the generosity of its donors, Portlight has been able to fund purchase of the truck for Richard Lamarque. Please visit the Portlight.org blog to learn more. Floodman's blog has the latest info on Portlight's plan for Haitian relief. The Reeve Foundation, founded by Christopher and Dana Reeve has awarded Portlight Strategies a $10,000 Quality of of Life grant to assist in the relief efforts in Haiti. This is very big and will allow Portlight to pursue more aggressive relief efforts over the course of the next few weeks.

For those of you more interested in helping out with the long-term rebuilding of Haiti's shattered infrastructure from the quake, I recommend a contribution to Lambi Fund of Haiti, a charity that is very active in promoting reforestation efforts, use of alternative fuels, and infrastructure improvements at a grass-roots level in Haiti. I've developed a great respect for the work they do in the country in the five years I've been a supporter.

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My next post will be Friday.

Jeff Masters
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It has been a series of three strong storms already, and one more (the strongest) tomorrow. Good. We need water.

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Reader Comments

Thanks Doc!!
thanks..........
thanks doc!

that wave picture is awesome
Thanks, Dr. M.

Not every day you see a 70 dBz reflectivity...

I think I want to go look at the radar archive to see what that reported 4.25 inch hail looked like on radar, now.
hydrus, if you're still here-and an example of a dry-slot setting the stage for development later in the day. (guess I shoulda looked first).

SPC thinks your chances are good!



MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0040
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0955 AM CST THU JAN 21 2010

AREAS AFFECTED...NERN AR...WRN TN...NRN MS...NWRN AL

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY

VALID 211555Z - 211700Z

WELL DEFINED UPPER VORT IS JUXTAPOSED WITH SFC LOW OVER NCNTRL
AR...JUST NORTH OF LIT. THIS FEATURE IS SHIFTING EAST AT ROUGHLY
25KT WITH A WELL PRONOUNCED DRY SLOT SPREADING AHEAD OF WIND SHIFT
ACROSS ERN AR/WRN MS INTO WRN TN. ALTHOUGH SFC TEMPERATURES ARE NOT
THAT WARM...SFC-3KM LAPSE RATES HAVE STEEPENED SIGNIFICANTLY...AOA 7
C/KM...JUST AHEAD OF SFC LOW WHICH APPEARS TO BE ENHANCING
LOW-TOPPED CONVECTION ALONG ADVANCING BOUNDARY. SHEAR PROFILES
STRONGLY SUPPORT ROTATING UPDRAFTS AND IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY
LIKELY THAT SUPERCELLS WILL EVOLVE WITH TIME. HAIL SHOULD CERTAINLY
ACCOMPANY THE STRONGER STORMS AND GIVEN THE MOIST BOUNDARY
LAYER...AND EXPECTED LOW LCL/CLOUD BASES...A FEW TORNADOES MAY ALSO
DEVELOP WITH STRONGER STORMS. TORNADO WATCH WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED
OVER THIS REGION BY 18Z.

..DARROW.. 01/21/2010
Good morning everybody. Modiki El Nino is having a real party in California, the Southern Plains, and the SE US, including Florida. Add daytime heating and things are going to turn ugly again this afternoon. There were 14 tornado reports yesterday. And I believe we will see more today.
Quoting Bordonaro:
Good morning everybody. Modiki El Nino is having a real party in California, the Southern Plains, and the SE US, including Florida. Add daytime heating and things are going to turn ugly again this afternoon. There were 14 tornado reports yesterday. And I believe we will see more today.


howdy Bob, I think you may be right
Hey everyone, this severe weather threat for Florida looks similar to the Groundhog Day Tornado Outbreak in 2007. The wrf model radar simulation shows a bending line of storms overnight tonight in Central Florida which indicates tornadoes, possibly some long lived tornadoes as well.
Can someone help me here? Where exactly is the "classic hook echo"? I never know what people see. To me it's just another big blob. (obviously not very good at reading radar images except for the rain)
Good morning! Happy to see some of my favorite guyz are up and about.

I'm still here to nudge you ... it's a beautiful day, so far. Is the yucky stuff still supposed to come in for us, Bordo? Matt? Sorry, I was researching another topic on last blog, much to Atmo's chagrin (and yup, don't worry, I'm well over that one, too)!


A dangerous squall line possible overnight tonight for Central Florida.
Quoting StormW:
Thanks Dr. Masters!

Speaking of favorite guyz...
Quoting PcolaDan:
Can someone help me here? Where exactly is the "classic hook echo"? I never know what people see. To me it's just another big blob. (obviously not very good at reading radar images except for the rain)


hook-shaped echo lesson from UCAR:

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/earth/Atmosphere/tornado/hook_echo.html
Quoting tornadodude:


howdy Bob, I think you may be right


Quoting PcolaDan:
Can someone help me here? Where exactly is the "classic hook echo"? I never know what people see. To me it's just another big blob. (obviously not very good at reading radar images except for the rain)

An idealized example of a bow echo (if this image works):
Quoting atmoaggie:

Might I be so bold as to suggest a MetEd/COMET module?
Principles of Convection I: Buoyancy and CAPE: http://www.meted.ucar.edu/mesoprim/cape/
(may have to complete the free registration if you haven't before)
Continued from other blog:

Ooh... the temptation. Let me look at my schedule... so between class (Geology and Sociology), buying a new house, moving, getting married, and working on a promotion at work, I can squeeze in this class in April... of 2012. (seriously though, it is a good idea, I will look into it once things settle down a bit and I get a few hours free)
Does it look like the Tampa area could get severe weather today?
I found conflicting information on the topic of the California pressure record:

Link
1-20-10, had 68 severe weather reports

Thanks guys, got it now. (and here i was looking for a silhouette of Capt. Hook) :)
Lafayette, Purdue University Airport
Lat: 40.43 Lon: -86.93 Elev: 623
Last Update on Jan 21, 10:54 am EST

Light Freezing Rain Fog/Mist

33 °F
(1 °C)
Humidity: 85 %
Wind Speed: E 18 MPH
Barometer: 29.78" (1009.0 mb)
Dewpoint: 29 °F (-2 °C)
Wind Chill: 22 °F (-6 °C)
Visibility: 6.00 mi.
Embedded may be a hook echo (cannot find a good idealized example, but here is a real radar return annotated):





TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 12
Issued at 11:45 pm WST on Thursday, 21 January 2010
BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH

A Cyclone WARNING is current for coastal areas from Mitchell Plateau to Beagle
Bay.

A Cyclone WATCH is current for coastal areas from Beagle Bay to Bidyadanga, and
extends to remaining inland parts of the west Kimberley.

At 11:00 pm WST Tropical Cyclone Magda, Category 2 was estimated to be
80 kilometres north of Kuri Bay and
295 kilometres north northeast of Derby and
moving east southeast at 13 kilometres per hour towards the coast.

Tropical Cyclone Magda has continued to move on a steady southeastwards track
towards the Kimberley coast. It may slow as it approaches the coast and take a
more southerly track. There is still a risk that it could reintensify as it
approaches the coast but it is now less likely to reach category three before
crossing the coast.

Destructive winds with gusts to 150 kilometres per hour are expected close to
the centre of the cyclone during Friday morning when the Magda is likely to be
near the coast between Kuri Bay and Mitchell Plateau.

Gales with gusts to 100 kilometres per hour may develop in coastal areas between
Mitchell Plateau and Cockatoo Island as the cyclone approaches. If Magda slows
abruptly and takes a more southerly track, which is possible, then gales may
still occur in locations further south of Cockatoo Island on Saturday, however
the risk of gales in these locations is diminishing.

Heavy rainfall, with falls in excess of 100mm, is expected near the cyclone
track in the west Kimberley on Friday and Saturday, but widespread heavy falls
are not expected.

Tides on Friday will be higher than expected between Mitchell Plateau and
Cockatoo Island with flooding of low lying areas possible.

FESA State Emergency Service [SES] advises of the following community alerts:
RED ALERT: People in or near Kuri Bay need to go to shelter immediately.
YELLOW ALERT: People in or near communities between Koolan Island and Cape
Leveque, including the communities of Koolan Island, Cockatoo Island, One Arm
Point, Lombadina, Djarindjin and Cape Leveque need to take action and get ready
to shelter from a cyclone.
BLUE ALERT: People in the remaining coastal communities between Mitchell Plateau
and Beagle Bay, including the communities of Mitchell Plateau, Derby and Beagle
Bay need to prepare for cyclonic weather and organise an emergency kit including
first aid kit, torch, portable radio, spare batteries, food and water.
Remaining communities in the west Kimberley including Broome should listen for
the next advice.

Details of Tropical Cyclone Magda at 11:00 pm WST:
.Centre located near...... 14.8 degrees South 124.5 degrees East
.Location accuracy........ within 45 kilometres
.Recent movement.......... towards the east southeast at 13 kilometres per hour
.Wind gusts near centre... 130 kilometres per hour
.Severity category........ 2
.Central pressure......... 988 hectoPascals

The next advice will be issued by 3:00 am WST Friday 22 January.

Quoting jeffs713:
Continued from other blog:

Ooh... the temptation. Let me look at my schedule... so between class (Geology and Sociology), buying a new house, moving, getting married, and working on a promotion at work, I can squeeze in this class in April... of 2012. (seriously though, it is a good idea, I will look into it once things settle down a bit and I get a few hours free)

Ehh, that one will only take about 30 minutes of your time...one of the smaller ones.
I can squeeze in this class in April... of 2012.

Hmmm, note to self: Double-check Mayan calendar... have a chat with Jeff.

Seriously...congratulations, on all of it!
Wedding date is ???

Quoting 1900hurricane:
I found conflicting information on the topic of the California pressure record:

Link


I wrote to Chris Burt and told him about the discrepancy. I don't think he looked back before 1900, since the NWS record is from 1891:

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/eka/climate/records.php

Jeff Masters
Quoting JeffMasters:


I wrote to Chris Burt and told him about the discrepancy. I don't think he looked back before 1900, since the NWS record is from 1891:

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/eka/climate/records.php

Jeff Masters

Thanks for the clarification!
Quoting atmoaggie:
Embedded may be a hook echo (cannot find a good idealized example, but here is a real radar return annotated):



Thanks! I now also know what I'm looking at on a radar like the one on the right.
Just think, you could be living here! Denhoff--ND-14 @ MP 45.8 - POS 1

(Why do they need a stop sign here?) lol

Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
I can squeeze in this class in April... of 2012.

Hmmm, note to self: Double-check Mayan calendar... have a chat with Jeff.

Seriously...congratulations, on all of it!
Wedding date is ???


October 17, 2010.
Quoting PcolaDan:
Just think, you could be living here! Denhoff--ND-14 @ MP 45.8 - POS 1

(Why do they need a stop sign here?) lol


Never no what peak hour traffic is like there, could be bumper to bumper tractors. hehe

Goodnight all. getting in sum sleep befor it hits 100F for Friday and Saturday here in Sydney. Stay safe all.
Quoting PcolaDan:


Thanks! I now also now what I'm looking at on a radar like the one on the right.


they look like little tornados to me :) but i never spot them on my own, i just see them when someone says one is there. one time on tv they said a tornado was on the ground at an intersection near my house and i ran outside and looked up and could look up into a perfect circle forming way in the air and moving on so fast. i still wonder if i imagined it! then another time, on a hot hot summer day out of nowhere i heard a weird rushing sound and the trees began to bend and a huge dust devil came over from behind the house and it was amazingly big. i didnt know they got so big and strong! it was fierce. it was during the 4 year drought we had a few years ago. like four years ago.
A bit of spotty damage in Tallahassee reported. Some roads on FSU's main campus i'm guessing 2-3 have been closed due to flooding and flooding of cars.
38. P451


It looks like San Fransisco may come close to setting a pressure record as well if the GFS and WRF verify this afternoon:


12Z GFS @9 hours (3 pm CST, 1 pm PST)


12Z WRF @9 hours (3 pm CST, 1 pm PST)
so we had light freezing rain all night here, and this morning the entire campus was pretty much a hockey rink. It was crazy. It took forever to get anywhere. So many people fell lol was funny :P
Quoting ElConando:
A bit of spotty damage in Tallahassee reported. Some roads on FSU's main campus i'm guessing 2-3 have been closed due to flooding and flooding of cars.


have a tornado watch for my area till 4pm this afternoon, which means there could be another severe batch in a couple of hours.
the nexrad picked up a vortex for a slide.
Quoting tornadodude:
so we had light freezing rain all night here, and this morning the entire campus was pretty much a hockey rink. It was crazy. It took forever to get anywhere. So many people fell lol was funny :P

Sadist.

October's a lovely month for a wedding, Jeff; that's great.

That's not a hint to T-dude...too young... tho' he should be so lucky (avatar).
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

Sadist.

October's a lovely month for a wedding, Jeff; that's great.

That's not a hint to T-dude...too young... tho' he should be so lucky (avatar).


Lol

Yeah, Purdue's version of snow removal is to remove the snow and leave a nice coating of ice :p
Quoting tornadodude:


Lol

Yeah, Purdue's version of snow removal is to remove the snow and leave a nice coating of ice :p


From this site:

"Purdue is no exception to the rule of unpredictable Midwestern weather. Seasons change here on weekly basis. It can be hot and humid on Monday and snowing by Sunday. Typically, it’s quite warm for the first few weeks of school and then mellows into autumn, with crisp air and brightly colored leaves. Winter is snowy and bitterly cold, with blustery gales and treacherous ice and temperatures dropping as low as negative 40. Spring comes begrudgingly with thunderstorms and temperatures that vacillate from torrid to freezing overnight, but eventually settles into a temperate period before the sweltering summer begins again.

Purdue students don’t let the temperamental weather rule their lives, though. At any time during the school year (except when the weather hits negative 40), you can see students outside enjoying seasonal activities like football games, snowball fights, sunbathing, and tennis. The key to overcoming the weather at Purdue is to be prepared. Check the temperatures on your computers or laptops every morning and always dress accordingly. If at the end of spring semester you’re wearing your winter coat, or if you’re sporting shorts in December, don’t be too surprised."
Quoting PcolaDan:
Can someone help me here? Where exactly is the "classic hook echo"? I never know what people see. To me it's just another big blob. (obviously not very good at reading radar images except for the rain)


A hook echo is the result of precipitation being wrapped around the area of rotation, on radar it appears just as that.. a hook. The radar images you typically see hooks on are from looking at the midlevels of the storm where the mesocyclone is. Keep in mind that many storms with hook echoes do not produce tornadoes. As the hook approaches you will get hit by outflow which is RFD and then heavy rain and/or hail.

Here's a hook Feature i saved a while ago in 08 useing GR2 Analyst.

Adrian

Thanks Big Doc. - The WAVE picture is incredible!! HEAVY, HEAVY cold water. Wonder if the Surfer in Challenge made in through those breakers - What a Warrior!!

I'm considering bribing the Gopher - I've had enough winter weather.

VERY Gusty and windy here in SWFL - I'm really hoping for rain -- do not like working horses AMP'd from these cold fronts colliding with warm air conditions --could someone arrange to have it rain around 3:00 - that would be perfect.

Congrats to Portlight on the grant!!! You all have done and are doing an incredible job!
Quoting tornadodude:
so we had light freezing rain all night here, and this morning the entire campus was pretty much a hockey rink. It was crazy. It took forever to get anywhere. So many people fell lol was funny :P

Those are great.. until you either actually have to get somewhere, or until you are the one falling.
Quoting jeffs713:

Those are great.. until you either actually have to get somewhere, or until you are the one falling.


yeah, I am surprised I didnt fall.... yet :p
California will need to get 16 inches of rain to come out of its drought, and Arizona with need 6 to 8 inches of rain, I believe the Arizona drought will end. The California drought will continue until the reserviors fill back up.

The GFS has these storms freight training into
Calfornia into the first week of February, some of these storms will be weaker than the past, but the ground is saturated and flooding will continue.
This will also help with snowpack for the mountains of Arizona and California and its water needs next spring and summer.
Quoting tornadodude:


yeah, I am surprised I didnt fall.... yet :p

Who is that beautiful lady with you in the pic? Oh, everybody needs to put in some ice skates to get to class.
Some good news from Haiti...

Haiti Pier Opens (CNN)
That squall line that moved through Tallahassee is marching right along the I-10 corridor, currently approaching the Lake City area. That squall line extends up into SE GA as well. I'm watching this line closely as it should arrive in the Jax metro area between 2-3 p.m. this afternoon. Tornado Watch in effectr until 4 p.m. in NE FL.
What a Picture of Color!

Quoting AussieStorm:

Never no what peak hour traffic is like there, could be bumper to bumper tractors. hehe

Goodnight all. getting in sum sleep befor it hits 100F for Friday and Saturday here in Sydney. Stay safe all.


Had to run out and just saw this. LOL
Maybe it's for the airplane crossings. (Yes, airplanes really do land and take off on the rural roads. Turned a corner once and saw one lifting off over me. WOW)
Aid Groups Focus on Haitis Homeless
Those who have not joined the exodus into the countryside now face a daunting search for shelter in the capital, where half of all buildings are estimated to have collapsed. The danger of venturing back inside was underscored on Wednesday morning, when a strong aftershock struck, causing at least seven buildings to collapse. No one was reported killed by the new quake, but lack of sufficient medical treatment adds hundreds, if not thousands, to the daily death toll among the injured. Hundreds of thousands of Haitians are taking refuge makeshift settlements that have sprung up across the capital, according to the United Nations 2019 International Organization for Migration.
We need to find a quick solution and a better type of shelter for these people,%u201D said Niurka Pieiro, a spokeswoman for the migration group. Rainy season starts in May.

Because of untreated injuries, infectious diseases and dismal sanitary conditions, health workers said that capital remained in a major medical crisis and that, unless quickly controlled, it would continue to take large numbers of lives in the days and weeks ahead.

There are still thousands of patients with major fractures, major wounds, that have not been treated yet, said Dr. Eduardo de Marchena, a University of Miami cardiologist who oversaw a tent hospital near the airport where hundreds of severely injured people were being tended. There are people, many people, who are going to die unless they re treated.

And the United States Navy hospital ship Comfort has pulled up off the Haitian coast to handle the worst-off patients. A helicopter landing pad has been cleared near General Hospital to evacuate the critically injured there.

At the University of Haiti, which hardly showed any damage, Jean Robert Cheri, a professor of psychology, began sending a team of student trauma counselors into the streets on Wednesday.

We are sending them out with basic instructions,he said. First, listen to people, let them verbalize their feelings. Second, don%u2019t promise them any material aid, because you cant deliver.

Look, its not going to be easy because they re traumatized themselves, he said of his students. I myself am a psychologist who needs therapy. When I go to sleep, I dream of houses falling down. We need to find a quick solution and a better type of shelter for these people, said Niurka Pieiro, a spokeswoman for the migration group. Rainy season starts in May.

Huge NYTimes article, basicly on the situation yesterday
Quoting trunkmonkey:
California will need to get 16 inches of rain to come out of its drought, and Arizona with need 6 to 8 inches of rain, I believe the Arizona drought will end. The California drought will continue until the reserviors fill back up.

The GFS has these storms freight training into
Calfornia into the first week of February, some of these storms will be weaker than the past, but the ground is saturated and flooding will continue.
This will also help with snowpack for the mountains of Arizona and California and its water needs next spring and summer.


have you seen the system in the pacific heading east toward the west coast? is there something i can look at to see where it's going a week from now? thanks!
Quoting PcolaDan:


Had to run out and just saw this. LOL
Maybe it's for the airplane crossings. (Yes, airplanes really do land and take off on the rural roads. Turned a corner once and saw one lifting off over me. WOW)


Lol having lived in rural Indiana for awhile, this is definitely true, it is not uncommon to see them land in fields too
Temps close to 80 already with 68 dewpoints in Orlando. Also the sun is now out so temps should climb fast. This strong to severe line of storms seems to want to keep building south. JAX will probably get 2 to 4" of rain with 50 to 65 mph wind gust from these storms moving in.
Quoting hurricane23:


As the hook approaches you will get hit by outflow which is RFD and then heavy rain and/or hail.

Here's a hook Feature i saved a while ago in 08 useing GR2 Analyst.

Adrian


I know this is fairly stupid, but I think, based on my observations of dust devils here in the Desert SW, that the "tornado" exists at ground level even if people do not see it. Condensation makes a tornado visible once the wind speeds reach a point where wind chill causes moisture in the air in motion to fall below the dew point. Dust devils *may* be fast enough to be considered "tornados" at times, but lack enough moisture in the air to be visible that way. They're only visible through the dust they pick up.

IMHO, I think the tornado is there when the hook echo is there. It's just a matter of wind speed. We look for the reasons why tornados do or don't form and instead we should be looking for the reasons why the air's rotation speeds up and slows down. As dust devils point out, the tornadic circulation is a natural feature of air interaction with a hard surface.
the United States alone donating more than $305 million as of Wednesday to the people of Haiti, according to the Chronicle of Philanthropy, a newspaper covering nonprofit organizations.

2 aftershocks
MAP 4.8 2010/01/21 16:54:10 HAITI REGION
MAP 4.9 2010/01/21 16:45:21 HAITI REGION
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

Yellowstone reports a 3.8, the strongest from the new eartquake swarm so far.
http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Quakes/quakes.big.html
It's odd the differences in pressures around the world. In the UK 950mb is not uncommon for a strong winter storm and according to the Met office the record is 925mb, but I understand that the wind velocities are higher in a 980mb US storm.

Anyone know why?
--Richard
Someone said this looks like the ground hog tornado outbreak and you know what this is very similar to 2/2/07. Storms should move into Central Florida sometime after 3pm. Also a tornado watch may need to be issued for Tampa to Orlando north until late this evening.
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
2 aftershocks
MAP 4.8 2010/01/21 16:54:10 HAITI REGION
MAP 4.9 2010/01/21 16:45:21 HAITI REGION
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

Yellowstone reports a 3.8, the strongest from the new eartquake swarm so far.
http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Quakes/quakes.big.html


the only time I ever felt an earthquake was in April 2008, at like 5 in the morning. It was a 5.2 and was about 30 miles from my house. it shook our house pretty bad
I have sun shinning in TAmpa currently. That is not good! The I4 Cooridor could get rocked hard late this evening with the added lift from the heating of the day especially with the sun currently shining.......Be on the look out from Tampa to Orlando areas....
Quoting Rakhal:
It's odd the differences in pressures around the world. In the UK 950mb is not uncommon for a strong winter storm and according to the Met office the record is 925mb, but I understand that the wind velocities are higher in a 980mb US storm.

Anyone know why?
--Richard


Different "normal" pressure levels. Same reason why typhoons in the west pac tend to have lower pressures.

Regarding the UK, their normal pressure is heavily influenced by the Icelandic Low, which is a roughly static low pressure system centered around Iceland. However, in the western US, the dominant feature is the semi-static high pressure over the rockies.
Quoting TampaSpin:
I have sun shinning in TAmpa currently. That is not good! The I4 Cooridor could get rocked hard late this evening with the added lift from the heating of the day especially with the sun currently shining.......Be on the look out from Tampa to Orlando areas....


Temp is now 80 here with very high dewpoints. I think we may even see some daytime pop up storms later as well out ahead of this line to the north. Nice Cumulus field beginning to build.
Quoting TampaSpin:
I have sun shinning in TAmpa currently. That is not good! The I4 Cooridor could get rocked hard late this evening with the added lift from the heating of the day especially with the sun currently shining.......Be on the look out from Tampa to Orlando areas....


Overcast in St. Petersburg, FL. But the sun peaks out every once in awhile. Im think scattered thunderstorms will be poping up later in the day around 3pm or so.
Quoting Rakhal:
It's odd the differences in pressures around the world. In the UK 950mb is not uncommon for a strong winter storm and according to the Met office the record is 925mb, but I understand that the wind velocities are higher in a 980mb US storm.

Anyone know why?
--Richard


Different ambient pressures are present at different lattitudes. From equator to poles, pressures generally go Low, high, low, high.
Quoting StormChaser81:


Overcast in St. Petersburg, FL. But the sun peaks out every once in awhile. Im think scattered thunderstorms will be poping up later in the day around 3pm or so.


I'm getting very high wind gust here in Tampa.
Quoting StormChaser81:


Overcast in St. Petersburg, FL. But the sun peaks out every once in awhile. Im think scattered thunderstorms will be poping up later in the day around 3pm or so.


We got some poppers to our west now. It's these storms which later could be dangerous as they are just out ahead of this line.
Quoting ElConando:


have a tornado watch for my area till 4pm this afternoon, which means there could be another severe batch in a couple of hours.
Had a tornado warning this morning around 6am for Walton and Holmes counties Florida. That should be what is going through Tallahassee now.
ok, I need a Humvee and a Marine to drive it on order for me to get home from work tonite....and a pair of waders would be nice.....

if not, I could really use a raft...
Good afternoon,

Possible cold air outbreak possible toward the end of January into the first week of February as AO and NAO go into a negative phase.

AO:



NAO:



12Z GFS:



Should be interesting to see how things play out...

Quoting mossyhead:
Had a tornado warning this morning around 6am for Walton and Holmes counties Florida. That should be what is going through Tallahassee now.


Those storms are now in JAX which is about to get popped with very high wind gusts as these storms are bowing.
two airplanes in Burbank, Calif got struck by lightening upon landing....
Quoting Rakhal:
It's odd the differences in pressures around the world. In the UK 950mb is not uncommon for a strong winter storm and according to the Met office the record is 925mb, but I understand that the wind velocities are higher in a 980mb US storm.

Anyone know why?
--Richard


The Further from the Equator or higher in Lattitude the Lower the pressure may be with less wind at higher Lattitudes from the Equator! The spinning difference of Earth in the different Lattitudes! As the big ball in the middle spins slower then toward the top of the big ball spinning faster......if that makes sense.
Quoting Jeff9641:


We got some poppers to our west now. It's these storms which later could be dangerous as they are just out ahead of this line.


They look to be about 140-150 miles away.
Quoting tornadodude:


the only time I ever felt an earthquake was in April 2008, at like 5 in the morning. It was a 5.2 and was about 30 miles from my house. it shook our house pretty bad
My ever first day when i visited the US was the 28th of june 1992, in that very night i woke up from shakeing. Instinctly i went under the doorway. I been in the san diego area and the epi centre was more north and i think around 7M.

edit 1992 ;) I was pretty young back than but i remeber this night very well. A lot of glas was crashed in the kitchen and luckily nothing else happend.

landers earthquake
Quoting TampaSpin:


I'm getting very high wind gust here in Tampa.


Same Here:

St. Petersburg / Clea

Humidity: 71 %
Wind Speed: S 24 G 35 MPH
Barometer: 29.85" (1010.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 68 °F (20 °C)
Heat Index: 80 °F (27 °C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.

Gates Orders Additional Ship, Eyes More Capability for Haiti

By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service
NEW DELHI, Jan. 20, 2010 – Just hours before another earthquake hit Haiti early this morning, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said the Defense Department is sending a port-clearing ship and evaluating additional capabilities to assist the disaster relief effort.

Gates announced that he signed deployment orders this morning to send a port-clearing ship equipped with cranes to get the port operating within a week or two to speed up aid distribution.

“We are looking at a variety of other capabilities,” he said. “We are trying to look at alternative routes there might be to get bulk food and bulk supplies in there.”

Gates responded to a reporter’s question during a news conference in New Delhi, where he met earlier today with Defense Minister A.K. Antony.

Shortly afterward, a magnitude 6.1 tremor struck northwest of the capital of Port-au-Prince, exacerbating difficulties already plaguing Haiti. The extent of the damage is unknown.

Getting around Port-au-Prince remains challenging, Gates said, expressing hope that more routes will be cleared within the next 24 to 48 hours so trucks can begin delivering more aid.

“You cannot fully meet the needs of over 2 million people using helicopters,” he said.

Seeing trucks out on the road providing desperately needed supplies also will reduce the chance of people turning to violence out of desperation, he said.

Gates said he’s pleased by cooperation between the U.N. peacekeeping force in Haiti, the Haitian government and U.S. commanders on the ground in supporting the relief effort.
“Everything I hear is that the three have established a good working relationship in terms of establishing priorities for what actually flows into the country,” he said.

Americans should feel proud of the U.S. response, Gate said, noting the governmental agencies and nongovernmental organizations working together to assist.

The U.S. Coast Guard was on site in Haiti “literally within hours after providing limited support,” he said. “And with each passing hour, more and more American forces and ships and capability have flowed into the area.”

While proud of the U.S. contribution in Haiti, Gates resisted saying he’s satisfied with the response. “As long as 2 million people in Haiti are still struggling to get food and water, fuel and medical care, it would probably be a mistake for anyone to say they are satisfied with the level of effort,” he said.

“That said,” he continued, “It is hard for me to say what more the United States could make available or how we could make it available faster to deal with the tragedy there.”
Thanks, Dr. Masters!

Been out of the loop this morning; the pick decided today was the day to to have the radiator develop a pretty good leak...LOL

BTW, updates coming soon on the Portlight webpage, the Portlight blog and mine as well...
The break in the cloud cover sure assisted in the increased instability across CFL. With Temps in the lower 80's and DWPT in the mid to upper 60's... we're now looking at CAPE starting to range in the 1000 to 1500 J/Kg and Low Level LR of 7 to 7.5. Pop-up showers already starting to form across parts of Lake County.
Quoting StormChaser81:


They look to be about 140-150 miles away.


Just WNW of me in Apopka there are thunderstorms building about 40 miles away moving NE. Nice cumulus field building over East C FL right and the temp is 82.
Quoting StormChaser81:


They look to be about 140-150 miles away.


Supercell type storms building in Marion County. (Ocala area)
Quoting TampaSpin:


The Further from the Equator or higher in Lattitude the Lower the pressure may be with less wind at higher Lattitudes from the Equator! The spinning difference of Earth in the different Lattitudes! As the big ball in the middle spins slower then toward the top of the big ball spinning faster......if that makes sense.

So a 995mb TS hitting Fl has higher winds than a 995mb storm hitting England for example?
Quoting Jeff9641:


Supercell type storms building in Marion County. (Ocala area)


They look more like single cell storms as of right now.




Supercell
Quoting NRAamy:
ok, I need a Humvee and a Marine to drive it on order for me to get home from work tonite....and a pair of waders would be nice.....

if not, I could really use a raft...

Or a NASA puffin?
Tornado warning just issued for Clay and St. Johns counties in NE FL, just south of metro Jax area. Very heavy storms moving thorugh the area right now.
TORNADO WARNING
FLC019-031-109-211945-
/O.NEW.KJAX.TO.W.0006.100121T1844Z-100121T1945Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
144 PM EST THU JAN 21 2010

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSONVILLE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHEASTERN CLAY COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA
NORTHERN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA
SOUTHEASTERN DUVAL COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA

* UNTIL 245 PM EST

* AT 145 PM EST...TRAINED WEATHER SPOTTERS REPORTED A TORNADO 10
MILES SOUTHWEST OF DOCTORS INLET...OR 10 MILES SOUTHWEST OF
LAKESIDE...MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
DOCTORS INLET...LAKESIDE...GREEN COVE SPRINGS...ORANGE PARK...
SWITZERLAND...MANDARIN...FRUIT COVE...BAYARD...DURBIN...PALM
VALLEY...SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH...GUANA RIVER STATE PARK...
SAWGRASS AND PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IF YOU ARE CAUGHT OUTSIDE...SEEK SHELTER IN A NEARBY REINFORCED
BUILDING. AS A LAST RESORT...SEEK SHELTER IN A CULVERT...DITCH OR LOW
SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN INTERIOR
HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER
YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

&&

LAT...LON 2998 8130 2992 8176 3018 8177 3026 8137
3021 8135 3001 8129
TIME...MOT...LOC 1845Z 254DEG 36KT 3006 8190

$$

SHULER


Quoting TampaSpin:
I have sun shinning in TAmpa currently. That is not good! The I4 Cooridor could get rocked hard late this evening with the added lift from the heating of the day especially with the sun currently shining.......Be on the look out from Tampa to Orlando areas....


It's very windy by the bay. I'm downtown and can hear the wind roaring around.
Quoting TampaSpin:
DAm......what else!....GEESH



The President had to open his mouth.
Very interesting article from CNN

Haiti cruise stop draws ire, support.
WOW! What a difference in just a few hours with the CAPE values in Tampa......

Quoting TampaSpin:
WOW! What a difference i just a few hours with the CAPE values in Tampa......



Please explain.
Storm Number Three to batter New Mexico is breaking off at Southern California.

Two storms forming from the main!

CYCLOGENSIS NOW OCCURRING.

Which means the hammer for us. We already have 8 inches of snow, no let up in sight.

Heavy snow here until late Saturday night forcast.

Perhaps three feet of more of snow before it's over.
Quoting CycloneOz:
Storm Number Three to batter New Mexico is breaking off at the south.

CYCLOGENSIS NOW OCCURRING.

Which means the hammer for us. We already have 8 inches of snow, no let up in sight.

Heavy snow here until late Saturday night forcast.

Perhaps three feet of more of snow before it's over.


totally jealous!!! how have you been man?
Quoting CaneWarning:


Please explain.


We have went to a near zero CAPE to over 1900 in just 3 hours.....the heating of the day because of the sun shining is caused the air to rise causing lift and a much more unstable at the higher levels.....it is going to be a very busy weather event coming into the Tampa BAy and I4 Corridor to the East Coast of Florida these next few hours.....i expect to see some isolated Tornado's this evening now as before it did not have the conditions in place to do so.....THE SUN SHINING did it!
Quoting TampaSpin:


We have went to a near zero CAPE to over 1900 in just 3 hours.....the heating of the day because of the sun shining is caused the air to rise causing lift and a much more unstable at the higher levels.....it is going to be a very busy weather event coming into the Tampa BAy and I4 Corridor to the East Coast of Florida these next few hours.....i expect to see some isolated Tornado's this evening now as before it did not have the conditions in place to do so.....THE SUN SHINING did it!


Wow, 1900 is fairly high isn't it?


I'm still waiting for the Marine with the Humvee to get me home.....
Quoting niederwaldboy:


that is what you get for voting in a Republican in a major election.

Actually, the market dropped because Obama started talking about banking reforms. It has nothing to do with the MA election.
Quoting CaneWarning:


Wow, 1900 is fairly high isn't it?


1900 is not really that high....4500-5000 is high!
WOW those are some strong storms.
We've plenty of Political Blogs in the directory,..take that stuff there please.
Quoting TampaTom:
Very interesting article from CNN

Haiti cruise stop draws ire, support.

I think it is correct to keep the tourist coming, But they have to actualy support the people.

Quote from this article
Meanwhile, Royal Caribbean announced it would donate at least $1 million in humanitarian aid to Haiti and contribute all of the company's net revenue from Labadee to the relief effort.

Because if they don't they simply dock somewehre else. But you can question what the actual outcome of their effort/donations is. Rightnow it's just an announcement. And basicly it's not a big diffrence where you at, we are all on this planet and some suffer hard, while most don't even bother to care. To solve the problems on this planet we need to work together, there is no other way. If you like it or not. Many argue we need a world government to solve this ( i think even einstein proposed this once?).
GOM IR Loop


Quoting tornadodude:


totally jealous!!! how have you been man?


Busy! busy busy busy busy :)

I've got websites I'm tweaking, and a blog I'm updating daily with 1,000 words written in the book that I'm both writing and publishing at the same time.

Last night, I started Chapter 10! 29,000 words total so far, and haven't missed a day in 29 days!

The book is called "Chasers". Here is the synopsis:

History records major catastrophic disappearances of people in the Bermuda Triangle and during severe tropical weather. A resourceful FEMA employee explores these mysteries and ultimately uncovers a deadly secret.

A few people are reading it. The comments back are what I was hoping for.

One of the cool things about the book is that I fictionalized one of the typhoon hunter missions that ended tragically Doc Masters had posted back in June 2009 when on vacation. He's aware I did it, and likes what I did with it.

Since the book is being published with updates daily, I do not expect to get it published...as it's out there free on the internet. So, I'm trying to make it as "commercial" as possible in the hopes of getting a movie deal out of it in the future.

If you want to check it out, just go to my daily blog at http://1kworkaday.blogspot.com

Before each days blog is a "STATUS UPDATE" which includes a link to the latest version of the book.

But be aware...I do go back and review my work and make changes, sometimes they are significant enough to warrant in "Info Alert."

How are you doing? I'm loving this weather! Travel is down. I'm going to really get ahead with this home work load before "Championship Sunday" comes! :)

Oz---
Quoting CycloneOz:


How are you doing? I'm loving this weather! Travel is down. I'm going to really get ahead with this home work load before "Championship Sunday" comes! :)

Oz---


wow, sounds like you have plenty to do! will definitely check out your book :)

I am great, been busy as well, but I am enjoying myself! and, Go Colts :)
Powerful storms beginning to enter the northern forecast area of orlando. Putnam and Flagler county are about to get rocked. I'm watch these renegade storms developing south of the line for severe potential.
Quoting tornadodude:


wow, sounds like you have plenty to do! will definitely check out your book :)

I am great, been busy as well, but I am enjoying myself! and, Go Colts :)


The J-E-T-S **** **** **** must not ever be in another Super Bowl.

We're talking the end of the world here if it ever happens...it's that serious! ;)

LOL!!!!! GO COLTS!
Quoting CycloneOz:


The J-E-T-S **** **** **** must not ever be in another Super Bowl.

We're talking the end of the world here if it ever happens...it's that serious! ;)

LOL!!!!! GO COLTS!


LOL agreed! I can imagine the rage if the Jets win, and how the Colts practically let them in the playoffs.... ah!
Quoting tornadodude:


LOL agreed! I can imagine the rage if the Jets win, and how the Colts practically let them in the playoffs.... ah!


WOW i forgot about that........the COLTS had the lead and pulled the starters and the Jets ended up winning that game and allowing them having a chance to make the playoffs....
That will be a tough one to chew if the Jets win!
A quick up date: presslord and I will be on the Barometer Bob Show tonight, starting around 7:30 CST (8:30 EST). Tune in; we need your support!

Thanks, everyone!
Well TS,..I always respond to the posts I feel are off kilter,..and you can post the entire thread too..for clarity.

This aint FOX..LOL




Quoting tornadodude:


LOL agreed! I can imagine the rage if the Jets win, and how the Colts practically let them in the playoffs.... ah!


It would be just deserts...and a template for the NFL from these "dark days" forward to never ever let a potential "undefeated season" slip away.

PERFECTVILLE - Population: 1

:D
ha yeah, I'm pretty sure there would be riots in Indy, and Coach Caldwell.... well.... he might not make it
One would think that with trying to keep up with Haiti reports and the fact that there is actual severe weather to pay close attention to that people wouldn't clutter up the blog with political or sports topics (especially since most people don't come to a weather blog for discussion of those topics).
Quoting Floodman:
A quick up date: presslord and I will be on the Barometer Bob Show tonight, starting around 7:30 CST (8:30 EST). Tune in; we need your support!

Thanks, everyone!


Thanks for the update. I'll be there. I'm a regular during the season, but a zero-time caller. :)
Spotters have reported a tornado near SWITZERLAND, FL.
I wonder if it will rain at the superbowl again this year, since it did last time in Miami
Quoting CaneWarning:
Spotters have reported a tornado near SWITZERLAND, FL.


Wow didnt know we had a Switzerland, FL. Bam I learned something today. lol
Quoting StormChaser81:


Wow didnt know we had a Switzerland, FL. Bam I learned something today. lol


I know, I had to do a double take!
Quoting tornadodude:
I wonder if it will rain at the superbowl again this year, since it did last time in Miami


Sloppy Super Bowls can be entertaining. I'll watch! :)
Quoting CycloneOz:


Thanks for the update. I'll be there. I'm a regular during the season, but a zero-time caller. :)


Thanks, OZ, you're the man!
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

I think it is correct to keep the tourist coming, But they have to actualy support the people.

Quote from this article
Meanwhile, Royal Caribbean announced it would donate at least $1 million in humanitarian aid to Haiti and contribute all of the company's net revenue from Labadee to the relief effort.

Because if they don't they simply dock somewehre else. But you can question what the actual outcome of their effort/donations is. Rightnow it's just an announcement. And basicly it's not a big diffrence where you at, we are all on this planet and some suffer hard, while most don't even bother to care. To solve the problems on this planet we need to work together, there is no other way. If you like it or not. Many argue we need a world government to solve this ( i think even einstein proposed this once?).


I'm with you. Not much works in the Haitian economy... this will bring folks with money to the economy.

Notice that no one is whacking on resorts in the DR for staying open and doing business as usual?

Let the parts of the economy work...
Quoting Floodman:
A quick up date: presslord and I will be on the Barometer Bob Show tonight, starting around 7:30 CST (8:30 EST). Tune in; we need your support!

Thanks, everyone!
Please post the link to the radio stream, the website is not loading for me. Thanks.
Quoting CycloneOz:


It would be just deserts...and a template for the NFL from these "dark days" forward to never ever let a potential "undefeated season" slip away.

PERFECTVILLE - Population: 1

:D


In perfectville the population should remain 1.

Dolphins swept the Jets for the first time since who knows when and then they go the AFC championship game... shows how much the Dolphins need to improve the defense.
Quoting CycloneOz:


Sloppy Super Bowls can be entertaining. I'll watch! :)


for sure! it has only rained once during a super bowl, and that was 2006
Quoting CycloneOz:


Sloppy Super Bowls can be entertaining. I'll watch! :)


Does The Who have any rain songs like prince? xD
Quoting tornadodude:


totally jealous!!! how have you been man?


Wait a minute: OZ gets some 3' of snow? Envy is green right? I must look like Kermit about now
129.

All I can say is that lets hope they have the money to pay for the costs when they are rescued, and for any expenses incurred because they chose to stay.
Quoting jeffs713:
129.

All I can say is that lets hope they have the money to pay for the costs when they are rescued, and for any expenses incurred because they chose to stay.


Exactly. I don't mind people staying behind and risking their lives as long as they can afford to pay for their rescues later.
Quoting ElConando:


Does The Who have any rain songs like prince? xD


The Who?

"Who's" Idea was that?

Whoooooooo are you, who who........who who?
Quoting NRAamy:


I'm still waiting for the Marine with the Humvee to get me home.....
I remember telling you to get your boat ready
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Please post the link to the radio stream, the website is not loading for me. Thanks.


That IS the link to the stream...try this: http://barometerbobshow.com/

It's the same as the encoded link above, but if you copy it paste it in your browser it may load more easily
Quoting ElConando:


Does The Who have any rain songs like prince? xD


Love Reign over me?
Quoting ElConando:


Does The Who have any rain songs like prince? xD





Southern Calif
Quoting ElConando:


Does The Who have any rain songs like prince? xD
Not like prince but yeah they have a great song....Starts out with the sound of rain and has the lyrics "rain over me" which actually sounds like "rain oe'r me"
Quoting TampaTom:


Love Reign over me?


Damn, man...great minds and all that, huh?
Quoting Floodman:


Damn, man...great minds and all that, huh?
Amen Brother, Amen
Quoting Floodman:


That IS the link to the stream...try this: http://barometerbobshow.com/

It's the same as the encoded link above, but if you copy it paste it in your browser it may load more easily
Ah great and even with tv :) . Works!
Quoting Floodman:


Damn, man...great minds and all that, huh?


:-)

The synapses fired in unison! :-)
Quoting NRAamy:



Southern Calif
Amy, I certainly hope this is not a photo from the front of your home
eyes...I'm a hard-headed woman....now I wish I'd ordered a raft from Cabellas.....
eyes....that photo is from Long Beach....up the coast from where I'm at on the coast...but, it may as well be my area....
and none of y'all live out here!!!!! Why are all the weather geeks on the other side of the country?! I need someone to airlift me home!

Quoting NRAamy:
eyes...I'm a hard-headed woman....now I wish I'd ordered a raft from Cabellas.....
I'm pretty sure Cat Stevens has a song about a "Hard Headed Woman"
Quoting NRAamy:



Southern Calif

reminds me of how i want a kayak..
thanks for informing us through visual, sorry for the burden. weather on!
Quoting eyesontheweather:
I'm pretty sure Cat Stevens has a song about a "Hard Headed Woman"


So did Elvis...

Thank ya... thank ya very much....
Quoting NRAamy:
eyes....that photo is from Long Beach....up the coast from where I'm at on the coast...but, it may as well be my area....
Are you like Ocean view to the coast....I saw where Pacific Palisades is getting the coast gobbled up by the ocean with seaside buildings about to tumble in and waves are begining to crash up under the beachside homes in Malibu
For the past several hours Los Angeles has been setting record low pressures with each observation.

The previous lowest pressure in Los Angeles was 29.25" on Jan 17, 1988 Link

The pressure there at the latest hourly observation was 29.11" Link
San Diego has also set a new low pressure record today, old record 29.37" on March 3, 1983 and the current pressure is 29.22" Link
I prefer Cat Stevens song to Elvis....even though Cat went bonkers....

eyes...I live up on a hill overlooking the ocean...

Minne...I need a raft....like NOW....
Please, Doctor, Sierra means mountains. It's the Sierra Nevada or the Nevada Mountains...
What a big low pressure system this is!
Quoting TampaSpin:


1900 is not really that high....4500-5000 is high!


Observed (and ran 9 miles into humid strong headwind) kick butt LLJ headed into those developing Florida Storms. That'll do it!
Quoting NRAamy:
I prefer Cat Stevens song to Elvis....even though Cat went bonkers....

eyes...I live up on a hill overlooking the ocean...

Minne...I need a raft....like NOW....
I remember a few years ago a hillside in Laguna let go and several homes went down with it. I sure hope/pray nothing like that happens to anyone (especially to a 3 fingered 1 thumbed purple hippo) Please excersise extreme caution.
Tornadoes have caused damage in Florida.

Link
Quoting eyesontheweather:
I'm pretty sure Cat Stevens has a song about a "Hard Headed Woman"


Quoting TampaTom:


:-)

The synapses fired in unison! :-)


That's what all that smoke and sparks were...I was getting worried for a sec there...LOL
Amy, how are you?
Tornado Warning about to expire in Volusia County. Storms are breaking out all over the place here north of Orlando. Looks like summer the way these storms are building. I think we will see some tornadoes C FL this afternoon and evening. Conditions are very favorable right now. Temp 84 with 68 dewpoint and strong S winds of 20 to 25mph.
I remember a few years ago a hillside in Laguna let go and several homes went down with it.

I lived right by there...Blue Bird Canyon...it was ugly....I heard the CRACK as the hill gave way....

Jerry, I'm ok, just scared out of my mind....I DON'T want to attempt to drive home....I'm afraid I'm going to get stuck in a lake that wasn't there yesterday....
Quoting Jeff9641:
Tornado Warning about to expire in Volusia County. Storms are breaking out all over the place here north of Orlando. Looks like summer the way these storms are building. I think we will see some tornadoes C FL this afternoon and evening. Conditions are very favorable right now. Temp 84 with 68 dewpoint and strong S winds of 20 to 25mph.


Tampa's discussion says isolated tornadoes are possible. I believe it too. The conditions seem to be favorable. It's very windy, and I've noticed the winds seem to be shifting direction.
Quoting NRAamy:
I remember a few years ago a hillside in Laguna let go and several homes went down with it.

I lived right by there...Blue Bird Canyon...it was ugly....I heard the CRACK as the hill gave way....

Jerry, I'm ok, just scared out of my mind....I DON'T want to attempt to drive home....I'm afraid I'm going to get stuck in a lake that wasn't there yesterday....


Turn around, don't drown.
Quoting CaneWarning:


Tampa's discussion says isolated tornadoes are possible. I believe it too. The conditions seem to be favorable. It's very windy, and I've noticed the winds seem to be shifting direction.


The winds at times must be gusting to near 40mph. Sky just turned dark here and rain is coming my way.
Quoting CaneWarning:


Turn around, don't drown.


Hippos can swim ;)
It seems like things are improving in Haiti. Shops and banks are reopening in Port-Au-Prince.

Link
Quoting Jeff9641:


The winds at times must be gusting to near 40mph. Sky just turned dark here and rain is coming my way.


Yes, 40 mph wouldn't be out of the question. I can literally hear the wind. That doesn't happen too often for me.
Quoting NRAamy:
I remember a few years ago a hillside in Laguna let go and several homes went down with it.

I lived right by there...Blue Bird Canyon...it was ugly....I heard the CRACK as the hill gave way....

Jerry, I'm ok, just scared out of my mind....I DON'T want to attempt to drive home....I'm afraid I'm going to get stuck in a lake that wasn't there yesterday....


Listen to the traffic reports and try Google Earth traffic; that might be a help. Remember that slow moving water tends to be deeper than it appears
Why is there NOT a tornado watch for Central Florida? Those storms are now lining up on the bottom of the watch. They need to issue a new watch south.. The SPC has done a sloppy job with this so far today.
Quoting Patrap:
Pacific Current Enhanced Infrared Satellite Image


can i make this go into the future? i'll start pushing buttons. thanks patrap! never mind i see that you can't.

where's that future button when you need it! lol
Quoting CaneWarning:
It seems like things are improving in Haiti. Shops and banks are reopening in Port-Au-Prince.

Link


only for a very few; the orphanages are still without food and w2ater, the old, the infirm and the disabled still don't have anyone helping to get them fed...there are a few bright spots, but overall, the future is pretty grim in the near term
We were very fortunate on the GA coast. The cold water generated a strong cold marine layer that kept the thunderstorms elevated with heavy rain but no hail or strong winds. The wind observation at the peak of the thunderstorms was S 3 mph despite blinding rains and lots of lightning!
Quoting reedzone:
Why is there NOT a tornado watch for Central Florida? Those storms are now lining up on the bottom of the watch. They need to issue a new watch south.. The SPC has done a sloppy job with this so far today.


I agree!! Rotating storms getting ready to come ashore north of Tampa. There has already been a tornado warning for Volusia County just to your south.
Quoting CaneWarning:


Turn around, don't drown.
I don't blame ya for being scared. Driving in LA is crazy. If you are on a road you are at the mercy of all drivers on the road. Think of sheep blindly following one another and that is what it is like on those freeways especially if you are in an inside lane, you can't stop, you can't get over and oh yeah most everybody drives with the proverbial long finger pointed skyward and a phone attached to the ear
Quoting Floodman:


only for a very few; the orphanages are still without food and w2ater, the old, the infirm and the disabled still don't have anyone helping to get them fed...there are a few bright spots, but overall, the future is pretty grim in the near term


It's good that they are trying to get back to "normal" though. They have a long recovery ahead.
Quoting reedzone:
Why is there NOT a tornado watch for Central Florida? Those storms are now lining up on the bottom of the watch. They need to issue a new watch south.. The SPC has done a sloppy job with this so far today.


They did the same thing to us when the Ground Hog Tornado outbreak occured 2/2/07.
You don't need a tornado watch to have tornadoes.
Amy,

Melwerle's husband is in the NAVY...SOS...Semper-whatever-they-say! Gee, what DO they say? Besides "Fear the Goat!"
Although scientists admit they can't reliably say whether the next Atlantic hurricane season will have eight or 18 storms, they believe they're coming closer to understanding how hurricane activity will respond to a warmer world.

A new study with the most extensive computer modeling of storm activity to date suggests the overall number of Atlantic storms will fall 30 percent by century's end, but the number of the strongest category 4 and 5 hurricanes will increase by 81 percent.

The study comes after half a decade of intense research, in the wake of the record-setting 2005 hurricane season that included Katrina and Rita, by scientists to understand how a warmer climate might affect hurricane activity.

Initially scientists believed that as sea temperatures warmed there would be more “fuel” available for hurricanes, and thus more and stronger storms.

“Our study seems to be showing us that it's going to be more complicated than just what happens to sea surface temperatures,” said Morris Bender, a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist, and lead author of the new paper to be published Friday in the journal Science.

This more nuanced view — fewer storms, but more of the intense ones — has been echoed in other recent studies as well. This has led some scientists to believe that they may be getting closer to understanding the effect of global warming on storm activity.

“In my opinion, it does bring us closer to closure,” said Kerry Emanuel, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology scientist who is among the leaders in hurricane research, of the new study.

“I am not sure we are there yet, though, as we know that in some respects the climate models are behaving differently from nature, so we need to keep working on those.”

There remain many difficulties in solving the hurricane-climate problem.

The record of hurricane activity in the Atlantic remains in dispute, with a large number of scientists saying two to three storms were missed every year prior to satellite observations, as were the most intense bursts of the tracked storms.

So it is hard enough for scientists — and indeed there is no general consensus — to determine whether hurricane activity during the last 15 years is unprecedented in the last 150 years. Therefore it is all the more difficult to look ahead into the latter half of the 21st century and determine how activity will change if the world's oceans warm.

Bender and his colleagues first used 18 climate models to simulate ocean and atmospheric conditions in the last two decades of the 20th century. Within these “global” models they used a regional model to simulate hurricane activity in the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico.

Such regional models can generate hurricanes, but the models themselves are not precise enough to determine the intensity of each storm.

So Bender and his colleagues, in a step forward from previous work, used the National Hurricane Center's GFDL model to simulate the intensity of each storm generated by the regional model.

“By adding an actual hurricane model to their study, they've produced results that may reconcile some of the conflicting information we have seen in other studies,” said Rob Korty, a Texas A&M University atmospheric scientist.

Of course Gulf Coast residents are familiar that individual hurricane models often do a poor job of simulating the track and intensity of a storm threatening land.

So why trust a hurricane model that's been nested within a regional model, that's been nested within a global model, each of which is subject to large errors?

The scientists themselves had these concerns, so they ran their three-tiered model in reverse to see how accurately it reproduced activity from 1980 to 2006.

“At the end of the day we wanted to check the data we were getting, and to see how close it is to past observations,” said Thomas Knutson, a NOAA scientist who co-authored the paper. “Our results found that we did a pretty reasonable job of modeling past observations, and this gives us some confidence.”

Which is not to say the scientists are ready to come to any definitive conclusions.

Bender and his colleagues broke out four of the 18 global models for further analysis and found a wide variance in their results. For example, while three of the models showed a significant increase in category 4 and 5 storms, one showed a 53 percent decrease.

Scientists are most interested in understanding the impact of climate change on major hurricanes (Category 3 and above ) because it is these storms, the example of Category 2 Hurricane Ike notwithstanding, that typically account for 86 percent of hurricane damage.
There appears to be a hook echo with a storm just NW of Tampa. Get ready if you live north of Tampa because a tornado could occur over the next hour or so. This could be a long tracked tornado.
And the pressure keeps falling in Southern California--29.08" at LAX airport, 29.07" at Civic Center, and 29.18" at Lindbergh Field in San Diego.
Quoting CaneWarning:
You don't need a tornado watch to have tornadoes.


NOPE!! You just need a ummmm... Tornado!! LOL
Just had a clap of thunder and now the rain is beginning.
Dang! Ya'll are keeping the censors busy today in here! Wish I knew what you weren't talking about. LOL
TORNADO WARNING
TNC027-111-169-212115-
/O.NEW.KOHX.TO.W.0001.100121T2044Z-100121T2115Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN
244 PM CST THU JAN 21 2010

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NASHVILLE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHEASTERN TROUSDALE COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE...
NORTHWESTERN CLAY COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE...
MACON COUNTY IN MIDDLE TENNESSEE...

* UNTIL 315 PM CST

* AT 235 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 8 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF LAFAYETTE...OR NEAR HARTSVILLE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT
35 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
LAFAYETTE BY 250 PM CST...
RED BOILING SPRINGS BY 300 PM CST...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

WHEN A TORNADO WARNING IS ISSUED BASED ON DOPPLER RADAR...IT MEANS
THAT STRONG ROTATION HAS BEEN DETECTED IN THE STORM. A TORNADO MAY
ALREADY BE ON THE GROUND...OR IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP SHORTLY. IF YOU
ARE IN THE PATH OF THIS DANGEROUS STORM...MOVE INDOORS AND TO THE
LOWEST LEVEL OF THE BUILDING. STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS. IF DRIVING...DO
NOT SEEK SHELTER UNDER A HIGHWAY OVERPASS.

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

&&

LAT...LON 3664 8599 3663 8568 3642 8592 3643 8598
3639 8597 3639 8598 3639 8603 3636 8607
3646 8620 3664 8601
TIME...MOT...LOC 2044Z 222DEG 31KT 3647 8603

$$

BOYD




I wonder when the last time we had a hurricane hit the USA without a hurricane watch ;)

Also wonder if Los Angeles and San Diego will fall below 29" pressure today.
It just got dark in Tampa. Who turned out the lights?
Could be a tornado as this storm NW of Tampa comes ashore one hell of a hook echo with that particular storm.
Quoting Jeff9641:
Could be a tornado as this storm NW of Tampa comes ashore one hell of a hook echo with that particular storm.


Looks to be heading to Pasco County maybe - New Port Richey area perhaps.
West of Healdsburg, Ca (northern)

42°F
(6°C)
Humidity: 97 %
Wind Speed: NW 2 MPH
Barometer: 28.88 in (N/A mb)
Dewpoint: 41°F (5°C)
Wind Chill: 42°F (6°C)
Quoting NRAamy:
I remember a few years ago a hillside in Laguna let go and several homes went down with it.

I lived right by there...Blue Bird Canyon...it was ugly....I heard the CRACK as the hill gave way....

Jerry, I'm ok, just scared out of my mind....I DON'T want to attempt to drive home....I'm afraid I'm going to get stuck in a lake that wasn't there yesterday....

Remember, if you can't see how deep it is, don't drive through it. (basically, if its above the curb, don't bother. Just turn around.)
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Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Amy,

Melwerle's husband is in the NAVY...SOS...Semper-whatever-they-say! Gee, what DO they say? Besides "Fear the Goat!"


They say "Vereor goat" (damn, my Latin is rusty)
207. P451
MODIS...a couple of hours ago (as usual for them)

Quoting jeffs713:

Remember, if you can't see how deep it is, don't drive through it. (basically, if its above the curb, don't bother. Just turn around.)


best advice of the day
Just had a nasty storm pass over my house in Longwood. As the storm ended you can see the cloud rotating as it left my area.
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Quoting reedzone:
Why is there NOT a tornado watch for Central Florida? Those storms are now lining up on the bottom of the watch. They need to issue a new watch south.. The SPC has done a sloppy job with this so far today.

i've been thinking similar thoughts about the watch box near Tennessee.. that should be east a bit imo, been looking that way all day. but i am only viewing loops and not looking at the numbers...
Quoting Floodman:


They say "Vereor goat" (damn, my Latin is rusty)

LOL! Je regret, ma francais est tres pauvre.
yo Hydrus, you on? got a couple tornado warnings near you
214. jipmg
lots of scattered strong storms erupting in the gulf..
nexrad shows a vortex in the last frame.
215, perfect example of "you don't need a tornado watch to have tornadoes".
Quoting ElConando:
nexrad shows a vortex in the last frame.


Which storm?
Quoting CaneWarning:


Which storm?


NE Fla storm
Quoting CaneWarning:
215, perfect example of "you don't need a tornado watch to have tornadoes".


that map self updates, cool
LONG BEACH, Calif. (KABC) -- Flooding is again a concern on Thursday for people living along the coast. Many homes have already been inundated with rain, and entire city blocks are under water.
The northbound lanes of Lakewood Boulevard are closed near the Long Beach Airport, between Willow and Spring streets, because so much rain water collected in the Lakewood Boulevard underpass. Crews, sweepers and even people with brooms have been trying to clear out the water all morning long on Thursday.

Storm drains have been overwhelmed during this week's downpours, causing major flooding at many intersections
wow looking at it in a slower frame rate shows one vortex near due east of Gainesville and shows another one later.
Here in St. Petersburg your starting to see a lower cloud deck forming with high cirrus and cirrus cumulus. Lower deck is racing looks to be 60-70 mph and the higher clouds are moving slowly. That's lots on unstable air starting to form in the front of the system.


LOOKS A LITTLE BUMPY
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


LOOKS A LITTLE BUMPY


You might find some turbulence with these storms. lol
Quoting StormChaser81:
Here in St. Petersburg your starting to see a lower cloud deck forming with high cirrus and cirrus cumulus. Lower deck is racing looks to be 60-70 mph and the higher clouds are moving slowly. That's lots on unstable air starting to form in the front of the system.


Sounds like tornado weather.
COSTA MESA, Calif. (KABC) -- Tornado warnings were out for parts of Orange County this afternoon, and at least two funnel clouds came ashore, causing damage. One was in Costa Mesa.
Many heard the warnings that a tornado might be heading their direction, but a lot of them dismissed it thinking that tornados don't happen in California. This may not be Kansas or Oklahoma, but around 1 p.m., folks in Costa Mesa got a chance to feel what it is like to live in tornado alley.

"It was something like out of a movie," tornado witness Holly Moro said. "It was black, it was pitch black outside and just crazy. It was unbelievable."

A few counties in NE fla are IN a T watch.


tampa area radar
For those of you that didn't see this before:

A quick up date: presslord and I will be on the Barometer Bob Show tonight, starting around 7:30 CST (8:30 EST). Tune in; we need your support!

Thanks, everyone!

Tell your neighbors, tell your friends...
Quoting CaneWarning:
215, perfect example of "you don't need a tornado watch to have tornadoes".

i see now the Severe watch added.. i was gonna say (oh wait, i did)
you don't need a warning either to have one.. that's up to the elements :)


this is two streets down from where I work.....
Quoting Floodman:
For those of you that didn't see this before:

A quick up date: presslord and I will be on the Barometer Bob Show tonight, starting around 7:30 CST (8:30 EST). Tune in; we need your support!

Thanks, everyone!

Tell your neighbors, tell your friends...


What is the topic?
Quoting NRAamy:


this is two streets down from where I work.....


Don't take that road home.
Quoting NRAamy:


this is two streets down from where I work.....
yep thats a little water must of rained out while you were inside working
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Quoting CaneWarning:
215, perfect example of "you don't need a tornado watch to have tornadoes".


Yep.

This past summer here in NJ (and PA) we had two events where nearly both states were covered with Severe T-Storm warnings, but, there was never any watch issued.

I wondered why that was. Nobody had an answer.
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
435 PM EST THU JAN 21 2010

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MELBOURNE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTH CENTRAL VOLUSIA COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF ORMOND BEACH...

* UNTIL 500 PM EST
240. P451
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


LOOKS A LITTLE BUMPY


Holy moley! Look at that spin off of Florida!



That thing is crazy! Thank GOD it's offshore!

Quoting P451:


Holy moley! Look at that spin off of Florida!



That thing is crazy! Thank GOD it's offshore!

What is so special about this? I read earlyer about a hook and such, but what does it mean? Stronger winds? Tornado development more favourable? Thanks
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Amy,

Melwerle's husband is in the NAVY...SOS...Semper-whatever-they-say! Gee, what DO they say? Besides "Fear the Goat!"


we say Go Navy, beat Army.. again!!!

looks like there's a warning out for the cell right over Deltona, FL too.
Wow, look at the storms popping over Florida and the gulf. I can't believe there isn't another Tornado Watch out for C. FL.
Florida State University Like I've never seen before. Some of the buildings have basements too.



TORNADO WARNING
FLC127-212230-
/O.NEW.KMLB.TO.W.0003.100121T2140Z-100121T2230Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
440 PM EST THU JAN 21 2010

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MELBOURNE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL VOLUSIA COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...NEW SMYRNA BEACH...SOUTH DAYTONA...
PORT ORANGE...ORANGE CITY...

* UNTIL 530 PM EST.

* AT 438 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR DE BARY...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
LAKE HELEN...EDGEWATER...DELTONA...


THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO AT ANY TIME. PEOPLE IN
THE PATH OF THIS STORM SHOULD ACT NOW IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
DO NOT WAIT FOR THE TORNADO TO DEVELOP BEFORE ACTING...YOU MAY NOT
SEE OR HEAR ITS APPROACH. DO NOT GET CAUGHT OFF GUARD!

Quoting CaneWarning:


What is the topic?


Portlight and Haiti relief; where we are currently and what we're hoping to have accomplished in the near term...
Cali going under water, with their $Billion dollar debt$ Cha Ching! Gulp Gulp!
Quoting P451:


Holy moley! Look at that spin off of Florida!



That thing is crazy! Thank GOD it's offshore!


That is either a MASSIVE hook echo, or a mid-level rotation trying to get rolling.
Quoting Floodman:


Portlight and Haiti relief; where we are currently and what we're hoping to have accomplished in the near term...


Should be a good show. I really think Haiti needs to think about reforestation. They could really become a great tourist island if they wanted to be.
Quoting StormChaser81:
Florida State University Like I've never seen before. Some of the buildings have basements too.




Hope your car isn't parked in there... because if it is, it is likely totalled. (water at or above the tailpipe = flooded engine, ruined upholstery, call your insurance company.
Quoting NRAamy:


this is two streets down from where I work.....


this is your unfortunate payback for making fun of our cold weather recently...."It's 72 F here!!!! Nannyy nanny boo boo!!!!!!"

well...Guess what? It ain't rainin' here...
Quoting StormChaser81:
Florida State University Like I've never seen before. Some of the buildings have basements too.
This looks really bad ;/ Considering the situation and outlook and what happend the 3 first weeks of 2010 ... thanks for all the photos though.
Quoting jeffs713:

That is either a MASSIVE hook echo, or a mid-level rotation trying to get rolling.


Isnt it a comma head?
Quoting jeffs713:

That is either a MASSIVE hook echo, or a mid-level rotation trying to get rolling.


Quoting StormChaser81:
Florida State University Like I've never seen before. Some of the buildings have basements too.





Wow I didn't walk through that area today. The areas I walked through were fine, though most of Landis Green is a big mudpile.
icmoore- if you're lurking- wumail me!

standing by up here for shelter ops in your area...
Quoting CaneWarning:


Should be a good show. I really think Haiti needs to think about reforestation. They could really become a great tourist island if they wanted to be.


Lambi Fund (among a handful of other groups) is actively working on reforestation efforts; there are great many factors invovled there though, not the least of which is finding alternative methods for fuel for cooking, etc; that's what casued the majority of the deforestation in the first place. The problem with Haiti is that the average income is less than $400 a year; poor folks don't think about tomorrow, they're more worried about right now.
wow.. i had those line of storms by 6am.. pretty intense.. atleast winds from 40mph up to 60 as a peak gust.. intense lightning and of course some boomers.. had some minor flooding, but no damage thank god! hope everyone is doing alright and being safe..
Quoting jeffs713:

Hope your car isn't parked in there... because if it is, it is likely totalled. (water at or above the tailpipe = flooded engine, ruined upholstery, call your insurance company.


Nope I moved from there about a year ago, so im high and dry. But I use to park there, so im lucky.


There is lower areas right around those areas. There saying the whole gym is flooded out and it has a basement. Ouch

There is going to be some really unhappy students when they get out of class.
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More on it's way. The Gulf is lighting up.

Quoting presslord:


this is your unfortunate payback for making fun of our cold weather recently...."It's 72 F here!!!! Nannyy nanny boo boo!!!!!!"

well...Guess what? It ain't rainin' here...


LOL!! I wanted to say that too to her
NRAMY, it's 75f and sunny! ;)
Amy, I got 34 and rain :p
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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
What is so special about this? I read earlyer about a hook and such, but what does it mean? Stronger winds? Tornado development more favourable? Thanks


A lot of rotation which leads to wind damage and tornadoes.





Quoting jeffs713:

That is either a MASSIVE hook echo, or a mid-level rotation trying to get rolling.


Good call on the mid level rotation. I'd lean towards it having been a hook though. It really looked like one.





we might have another cold snap coming down to the south and more moisture.. might get messy.. we will c!
268. P451
Quoting StormChaser81:





That is one sick tower.

An in advance flood warning, don't see that every day.
Statement as of 4:38 PM EST on January 21, 2010

The National Weather Service in Tallahassee has issued a

* Flood Warning for
the Ochlockonee River near Havana.
* From Saturday morning until further notice... or until the warning is
cancelled.
* At 4:15 PM Thursday the stage was 23.4 feet.
* Minor flooding is forecast.
* Flood stage is 25.0 feet.
* Forecast... rise above flood stage by late Saturday morning and continue to
rise to near 25.5 feet by Sunday morning.
* Impact... at 26.5 feet... local authorities begin to monitor State Road 12
conditions. At this level... State Road 12 is subject to closure as conditions
warrant.



Fld observed 7am EST / 8am EDT forecast
location stg stg day time Fri Sat sun Mon Tue

Ochlockonee River
Havana 25 23.4 Thu 04 PM 23.4 24.8 25.5 25.2 25.1

The river creates Leon counties boarder I dunno how this will affect me though.
Northern New Mexico Winter Storm Warning Update:

1' of snow so far...no let up in sight until Sat. night

Dang it's snowing hard and so much more on the way. Amazing!
A church leader that Portlight follows on Twitter is looking for someone to drive from Atlanta to Fort Pierce, FL immediately to deliver urgent packages of supplies for their medical mission. These are the folks who found the 5 neurosurgeons to go to Haiti. Thought I'd post here in case there's anyone who can help. WU mail me!

Thanks, y'all!! WU community ROCKS!!!!!!
Another tornado warning for the Daytona Beach area. A tremdous amount of lightning just to my north.
video got removed by author ...
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Quoting CycloneOz:
Northern New Mexico Winter Storm Warning Update:

1' of snow so far...no let up in sight until Sat. night

Dang it's snowing hard and so much more on the way. Amazing!



GFS, 120 HR Snowfall Accumulation Forecast

Quoting P451:


Holy moley! Look at that spin off of Florida!



That thing is crazy! Thank GOD it's offshore!

yep that was a little spinner proable that was one big spout has since weaken a little
Quoting presslord:


this is your unfortunate payback for making fun of our cold weather recently...."It's 72 F here!!!! Nannyy nanny boo boo!!!!!!"

well...Guess what? It ain't rainin' here...

So very wrong... oh so very wrong.

(and in a sick way, amusing, too).

In all seriousness... get home safe, Amy.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
yep that was a little spinner proable that was one big spout has since weaken a little


Whatever was under that....it couldn't have been nice.

Quoting Floodman:


Lambi Fund (among a handful of other groups) is actively working on reforestation efforts; there are great many factors invovled there though, not the least of which is finding alternative methods for fuel for cooking, etc; that's what casued the majority of the deforestation in the first place. The problem with Haiti is that the average income is less than $400 a year; poor folks don't think about tomorrow, they're more worried about right now.


I had to do a report on this in the 90s. At that time, 98% of the country had been deforested. I don't know what it is now but I am sure it is less. When I was there, the only trees left alone were ones important in the voodoo/catholic religion there. The villagers would not touch them because they contained spirits.

When you have hungry children, you don't think beyond what you can have today. Desperation sets in and becomes a way of life. People have gone and attempted reforestation and agroforestry projects but those trees don't remain for long. People need the fuel to survive. It is a vicious cycle. It sounds like a fairly easy fix for us here in the States but, when you live in these conditions, you see how complex recovery truly is.
Quoting CycloneOz:
Northern New Mexico Winter Storm Warning Update:

1' of snow so far...no let up in sight until Sat. night

Dang it's snowing hard and so much more on the way. Amazing!

What I wouldn't do to go skiing at Taos in the next few days...
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A 4.9 and 4.8 in Haiti today.

Meanwhile, perhaps this is the other shoe that has dropped. Remember we had Venezuela and then the Caymans. We were wondering about further west. Well, he's further west. Link

Let us hope that's the end of this event.

Whatever went on in Haiti absolutely caused these other tremors.
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Quoting trinigal:


I had to do a report on this in the 90s. At that time, 98% of the country had been deforested. I don't know what it is now but I am sure it is less. When I was there, the only trees left alone were ones important in the voodoo/catholic religion there. The villagers would not touch them because they contained spirits.

When you have hungry children, you don't think beyond what you can have today. Desperation sets in and becomes a way of life. People have gone and attempted reforestation and agroforestry projects but those trees don't remain for long. People need the fuel to survive. It is a vicious cycle. It sounds like a fairly easy fix for us here in the States but, when you live in these conditions, you see how complex recovery truly is.


I saw a ridiculous figure yesterday. All but 1.5% deforested for fuel and building materials.

It is a microcosm of what the entire world is going through.

They are pent up pretty good there in Haiti but let us not forget...even the continents are islands. Eventually, you're going to rape them dry.

We really are a fungus aren't we. Just spreading out and consuming everything in sight.

My pic does look good I have to say
Anyone have updates on the INVEST storm east of Australia?
Quoting P451:
A 4.9 and 4.8 in Haiti today.

Meanwhile, perhaps this is the other shoe that has dropped. Remember we had Venezuela and then the Caymans. We were wondering about further west. Well, he's further west. Link

Let us hope that's the end of this event.

Whatever went on in Haiti absolutely caused these other tremors.


so let me ask this, and if anyone would like to answer.. what happens if there was a quake near the caymans or the tip of cuba, Would that spawn a tsunami or would it have to b closer or in the GOM?
Quoting P451:
A 4.9 and 4.8 in Haiti today.

Meanwhile, perhaps this is the other shoe that has dropped. Remember we had Venezuela and then the Caymans. We were wondering about further west. Well, he's further west. Link

Let us hope that's the end of this event.

Whatever went on in Haiti absolutely caused these other tremors.


You think all these quakes are related? Why? When I lived in Trinidad, we experienced a number of quakes with epicenters in Venezuela. It's a fairly active area.
at this point, Amy doesn't even need to THINK of getting home safe. She needs to STAY PUT.

Go see her blog if you have any doubts...she needs to stay PUT.
287. P451
All you need is a asteroid the size of a house to hit the ocean and you will have a tsunami
Quoting P451:
A 4.9 and 4.8 in Haiti today.

Meanwhile, perhaps this is the other shoe that has dropped. Remember we had Venezuela and then the Caymans. We were wondering about further west. Well, he's further west. Link

Let us hope that's the end of this event.

Whatever went on in Haiti absolutely caused these other tremors.


Look at all the tremors in Yellowstone just today.....HUM!

Quoting RitaEvac:
All you need is a asteroid the size of a house to hit the ocean and you will have a tsunami


ya i know that
can someone/anyone help me figure out where that monster in the pacific is going. i know i have seen models runs before of where they are going. if you could just post a link to where i find them i would be grateful! THANKS
292. P451
Quoting trinigal:


You think all these quakes are related? Why? When I lived in Trinidad, we experienced a number of quakes with epicenters in Venezuela. It's a fairly active area.


It is, but, it just seemed like a cascading effect IMO. Haiti ---> Venezuela ---> Caymans ----> off the coast of Mexico in the Pacific.

Just seems like a westward progressing release of energy.

Quoting P451:


I saw a ridiculous figure yesterday. All but 1.5% deforested for fuel and building materials.

It is a microcosm of what the entire world is going through.

They are pent up pretty good there in Haiti but let us not forget...even the continents are islands. Eventually, you're going to rape them dry.

We really are a fungus aren't we. Just spreading out and consuming everything in sight.



To tell the truth, 1.5% sounds high to me but maybe they've had some success with reforestation. I don't know.

I don't agree that we are going to completely deplete our natural resources. Haiti is an extreme example of what can happen but there are so many factors and such desperation that got it to where it is today. Here in the States, we're replanting. We're implementing new ideas. We are losing the old-growth forests but, I do believe our regeneration rates more than make up for it. Now, some would argue about the loss of old-growth forests but some research indicates new growth actually has more benefits. Hey, it's controversial, choose your side :)

Our country would have to fall apart before we ever got to that point.
294. P451
Quoting TampaSpin:


Look at all the tremors in Yellowstone just today.....HUM!



*bites nails*

LOL.

But yeah, some day that area is going to go off. Who knows when? They had a real good cluster of tremors in early 2009. Nothing came of it. Tiltmeters continue to rise unabated though. Some day... BOOM.

Here are some pictures I just took outside.

Location: Northern New Mexico
Date: January 21, 2010
Time: 3:00 PM





so whats an average of how many earthquakes occur a day and is it climbing from a decade ago or still the same?
297. P451
Quoting trinigal:


To tell the truth, 1.5% sounds high to me but maybe they've had some success with reforestation. I don't know.

I don't agree that we are going to completely deplete our natural resources. Haiti is an extreme example of what can happen but there are so many factors and such desperation that got it to where it is today. Here in the States, we're replanting. We're implementing new ideas. We are losing the old-growth forests but, I do believe our regeneration rates more than make up for it. Now, some would argue about the loss of old-growth forests but some research indicates new growth actually has more benefits. Hey, it's controversial, choose your side :)

Our country would have to fall apart before we ever got to that point.


You make some good points yet I can't help thinking eventually we're just going to use up everything we have. World population has nearly doubled since I was born. I'm not really that old. Not a good thing.

Also you have to look at the fact that outside of the US, Canada, and developed Europe - everyone else doesn't seem to give a damn. Just polluting away and cutting down everything they need without replenishing. Russia, China, Asia, Africa, Mexico, South America, Middle East: They just cut stuff down and pollute the hell out of the land.

Hummgbird feeder in that pic, those guys are long gone, deep into Mexico somewhere
Storm with rotation coming ashore around New Port Richie, FL. This could produce a tornado very soon and track ENE.
Overpopulated world you say huh... well that's why there's called solar flares. Knock out our electrical grid, no backup parts, takes 4-10 yrs to build them. Hundreds of Millions (actually maybe billions)die without electricity, natures way of paying us back.
Time to summit your name for the super volcano in Yellow Stone...Dibs "Kracken-Gia" Or 'Mother of monster'
PRESS RELEASE FROM YVO PARTNER UNIVERSITY OF UTAH SEISMOGRAPH STATIONS



Released: January 21, 2010 2:00PM MST



This release is a continuation of information updates building upon our two previous press releases on the ongoing earthquake swarm on the west side of Yellowstone National Park. The University of Utah Seismograph Stations reports that a pair of earthquakes of magnitude 3.7 and 3.8 occurred in the evening of January 20, 2010 in Yellowstone National Park.



The first event of magnitude 3.7 occurred at 11:01 PM and was shortly followed by a magnitude 3.8 event at 11:16 PM. Both shocks were located around 9 miles to the southeast of West Yellowstone, MT and about 10 miles to the northwest of Old Faithful, WY. Both events were felt throughout the park and in surrounding communities in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho.



These two earthquakes are part of an ongoing swarm in Yellowstone National Park that began January 17, 2010 (1:00 PM MST). The largest earthquake in the swarm as of 12 PM, January 21, 2010, was a magnitude 3.8. There have been 901 located earthquakes in the swarm of magnitude 0.5 to 3.8. This includes 8 events of magnitude larger than 3, with 68 events of magnitude 2 to 3, and 825 events of magnitude less than 2. There have been multiple personal reports of ground shaking from observations inside the Park and in surrounding areas for some of the larger events (for felt reports, please visit http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/dyfi/). Earthquake swarms are relatively common in Yellowstone.



The swarm earthquakes are likely the result of slip on pre-existing faults rather than underground movement of magma. Currently there is no indication of premonitory volcanic or hydrothermal activity, but ongoing observations and analyses will continue to evaluate these different sources.



Seismic information on the earthquake can be viewed at the University of Utah Seismograph Stations: http://www.seis.utah.edu/.



Seismograph recordings from stations of the Yellowstone seismograph network can be viewed online at: http://quake.utah.edu/helicorder/yell_webi.htm.



Anyone who has felt earthquakes in the swarm are encouraged to fill out a form on the USGS Community Felt reports web site: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/dyfi/.



This press release was prepared by the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory partners of the U.S. Geological Survey, the University of Utah, and the National Park Service: http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/yvo/

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The Yellowstone Volcano Observatory (YVO) is a partnership of the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), Yellowstone National Park, and University of Utah to strengthen the long-term monitoring of volcanic and earthquake unrest in the Yellowstone National Park region. Yellowstone is the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world and the first National Park. YVO is one of the five USGS Volcano Observatories that monitor volcanoes within the United States for science and public safety.

CONTACT INFORMATION:
Peter Cervelli, Acting Scientist-in-Charge, USGS

San Diego River Floods Qualcomm Stadium

Flooding Vietnam Saigon


YellowStone Seiosmograph.......HUM....that looks like the way our Valcano that erupted in Alaska looked before erupting......JUST MY THOUGHTS ONLY.....NO PANIC PLEASE!

Schools dismissed early here in North Carolina because of 34degree weather with rain. Mountains have already received .25 of ice with more on the way and or sleet/snow.. The New River here in NC has chunks of ice floating in it due the cold snap followed by a small warm up. Damage has been reported to docks already. Another 2inches of rain this weekend will cause more river flooding


Freezing thunderstorms anyone?

NWS in Blacksburg VA

In any
event...this should bring some heavier precipitation back into the area
late tonight...and model soundings generally show this to be
liquid...perhaps some sleet across the northern County Warning Area. So that is just
another reason to continue the warnings and advisories overnight
into Friday morning. I also considered adding in some elevated
convection
overnight in the far west...but think that The Wedge
will be strong enough to keep any thunderstorms west of the County Warning Area. I have
kept temperatures steady or dropping a few degrees overnight...and then
rising very slowly above freezing Friday as the forecast area will
remain in a strong wedge with the coastal low developing.

earthquake/past-decade

from like 2004 and til 2009, earthquakes from the range from 5.0 to over 7.0 magnitude have increased.. compared to early 2000 to 2003 where there were sum but not as much as reported from this site.. also 2 start off the 2010 year with good size earthquakes already.. it could be chain from the haiti earthquake all the way to the caymans.. but they r still strong tho..

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Quoting RitaEvac:
Overpopulated world you say huh... well that's why there's called solar flares. Knock out our electrical grid, no backup parts, takes 4-10 yrs to build them. Hundreds of Millions (actually maybe billions)die without electricity, natures way of paying us back.


We had a power outage in June. Lasted a whopping 90 minutes. Everyone was going insane. No idea what to do with themselves. Me included.

Not a good sign.

We don't know how to care for ourselves if it was a permanent situation. No idea at all. Sad really.

This is what the 15th of January 2010 looked like...........HOLLY COW....look how the activity has picked up......

Quoting P451:


You make some good points yet I can't help thinking eventually we're just going to use up everything we have. World population has nearly doubled since I was born. I'm not really that old. Not a good thing.

Also you have to look at the fact that outside of the US, Canada, and developed Europe - everyone else doesn't seem to give a damn. Just polluting away and cutting down everything they need without replenishing. Russia, China, Asia, Africa, Mexico, South America, Middle East: They just cut stuff down and pollute the hell out of the land.



The Earth's carrying capacity is controversial as well. Some say, we've surpassed CC and other says we can have tens of billions more people and still be okay. Also, many people believe that extreme poverty is not so much overpopulation as it is a product of underdeveloped nations. Keep in mind, just for the sake of argument, that if we took the world's entire population, we could fit everybody into Texas and give each person something to the tune of 1,000 sq. feet. Now, obviously, that doesn't take into account resource use but it does give a picture of just 'how many' people we have. I never much bought into the Maltusian-type arguments simply because I believe with technological advancements, we keep adapting. In the 60's the Population Bomb scare was akin to our Global Warming scare (just my opinion LOL). Sometimes I think we, as humans, like to believe the worst. We like to have our causes. They make us feel we have more control if that makes sense.


Yet, on the other hand, I do believe we need to do a better job taking care of our Earth. I don't believe we'll ever quite reach Wump World status (great children's book!) but we can do a lot to improve the quality of life worldwide.

Oh well, some random thoughts.
310. P451
302, 304.

Tampa, remember we had the swarm in early 2009 and it subsided. It is an active region. One day it WILL blow. But we can't make much of these swarms because we just don't know what they mean in terms of whether or not the systems is going to erupt or not. We weren't here 640,000 years ago (or whenever the last calculated eruption was).

Of course, somehow, we know what the temperature was that day worldwide of course, AGW guys might be able to tell us what the precursor to the Yellowstone event was! Just cue up one of those red dot blue dot maps! They'll tell us what to do!

Quoting P451:


We had a power outage in June. Lasted a whopping 90 minutes. Everyone was going insane. No idea what to do with themselves. Me included.

Not a good sign.

We don't know how to care for ourselves if it was a permanent situation. No idea at all. Sad really.



We adapt. Yes, things might be a bit squirrly at first but give yourself more credit. Give yourself time to adjust. I lived in a tent in Haiti for half a year. I adjusted :) I certainly was happy to come back to bathtubs and air conditioning though :)

It's sort of like television. We don't watch a lot of it. When we have people come stay with us, often the children go a bit nutso at first but within several days, they are coming up with great games and having a blast. Give yourself more credit :)
Quoting P451:


We had a power outage in June. Lasted a whopping 90 minutes. Everyone was going insane. No idea what to do with themselves. Me included.

Not a good sign.

We don't know how to care for ourselves if it was a permanent situation. No idea at all. Sad really.



Basically would have to buy water in bundles starting now and have from the floor up to ceiling in closets to survive months. Years? no clue. Once water goes off, no drinking, no baths, no washing, have to catch off your roof. No heat, No AC, no medicine making, canned food only gonna last till you run out.
314. P451
Quoting trinigal:


The Earth's carrying capacity is controversial as well. Some say, we've surpassed CC and other says we can have tens of billions more people and still be okay. Also, many people believe that extreme poverty is not so much overpopulation as it is a product of underdeveloped nations. Keep in mind, just for the sake of argument, that if we took the world's entire population, we could fit everybody into Texas and give each person something to the tune of 1,000 sq. feet. Now, obviously, that doesn't take into account resource use but it does give a picture of just 'how many' people we have. I never much bought into the Maltusian-type arguments simply because I believe with technological advancements, we keep adapting. In the 60's the Population Bomb scare was akin to our Global Warming scare (just my opinion LOL). Sometimes I think we, as humans, like to believe the worst. We like to have our causes. They make us feel we have more control if that makes sense.


Yet, on the other hand, I do believe we need to do a better job taking care of our Earth. I don't believe we'll ever quite reach Wump World status (great children's book!) but we can do a lot to improve the quality of life worldwide.

Oh well, some random thoughts.


Good post. I really don't know what to believe outside of theorizing. So well...who knows what we face.

It doesn't look all that good though. Chances are I will croak before it matters.

Maybe that line of thinking is exactly our problem.
Quoting P451:
302, 304.

Tampa, remember we had the swarm in early 2009 and it subsided. It is an active region. One day it WILL blow. But we can't make much of these swarms because we just don't know what they mean in terms of whether or not the systems is going to erupt or not. We weren't here 640,000 years ago (or whenever the last calculated eruption was).

Of course, somehow, we know what the temperature was that day worldwide of course, AGW guys might be able to tell us what the precursor to the Yellowstone event was! Just cue up one of those red dot blue dot maps! They'll tell us what to do!



ROFLMAO.....too freaking funny!
Quoting P451:


Good post. I really don't know what to believe outside of theorizing. So well...who knows what we face.

It doesn't look all that good though. Chances are I will croak before it matters.

Maybe that line of thinking is exactly our problem.


Hey, I believe small differences matter. If you are doing what you can, you are doing a lot. Right?


interesting.. been quite a few earthquakes more than or near 7.0 magnitude tho
Hey t-dude, it looks like that nasty winter mix is passing between us. I'd love more snow but I'm tired of ice.
How Storms Can Trigger Earthquakes
Scientists are increasingly pointing to storms as a trigger for earthquakes and mudslides. That's raising questions about the effects that climate change might have on one of the world's deadliest natural catastrophes, and to what extent, if any, insurers and governments could be adapting to the interplay between atmosphere and earth.

The Slumgullion Landslide in the San Juan Mountains of Southwest Colorado is named after a lumpy stew of ages past because of its colored and chunky landscape. The mix of mountain mass is nearly 2.5 miles long and 1,000 feet wide. It has been creeping downhill since the Black Plague ravaged Europe in the 14th century. On most days it descends by 1 tiny centimeter, but there are a few when it speeds into a lurching plunge of about 10 feet.

New evidence (pdf) shows that atmospheric low pressure systems can prompt the landslide to lurch downward. Pressure drops when warm daytime air results in low "tides," or when fast-moving storms race onto the scene. The effect on landslides and earthquakes only occurs when the pressure plummets suddenly, causing underground water and air to shoot toward the surface.

That reduces friction between grinding subterranean plates, or under a landslide that's been held immobile by abrasive dirt and rocks.

"Slides, earthquakes, glaciers, volcanic eruptions -- all of these things involve soil sliding on soil, or rock sliding on rock," explains William Schulz, a research scientist at the U.S. Geological Survey and the author of a study published this month in the journal Nature Geoscience. "And sliding is resisted primarily by one thing, and that's friction."

Typhoons can make plates slip

The same conclusion was reached by scientists in Taiwan this June. A study (pdf) published in the journal Nature described how low pressure accompanying typhoons sparked small earthquakes along the fault between the Philippine Sea Plate and the Eurasian Plate. The scientists note that they make "a definitive connection between fault slip and changes in atmospheric pressure."

Importantly, both studies say weather impacts can accelerate an earthly act that was bound to happen sooner or later. In other words, low pressure is not the cause of an earthquake, just the trigger.

Full Article
Link
old earthquake
Quoting abrahambenjudea:
Time to summit your name for the super volcano in Yellow Stone...Dibs "Kracken-Gia" Or 'Mother of monster'


El Caldera de Fuego
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:
#ofearthquakes/pastcentury

scary
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:




we might have another cold snap coming down to the south and more moisture.. might get messy.. we will c!



This graph, please where is this graph????
it shows that 3 more storms are coming in the next 10 days.
the 26th - 30th is high tide.

and of course it doesn't show the graph, it's from entry #267
Quoting abrahambenjudea:
Time to summit your name for the super volcano in Yellow Stone...Dibs "Kracken-Gia" Or 'Mother of monster'
Incendia Mons.
More photos from this incredible, significant weather event affecting the southwest U.S. The picture of Walnut Canyon is from my backyard. Not a bad view, eh? :)





Sorry if someone already posted...I'm all over the place...dinner time...grandkids live in affected area of SoCal.

I can't believe the people refusing to leave.

Also, those of you with newer Toyotas; expanded giant re-call, just on ABC national news.

Authorities say mudflows likely in drenched Calif.
Link

By JOHN ROGERS, Associated Press Writer
1 hr 39 mins ago

LA CANADA FLINTRIDGE, Calif. – Steady rain fell Thursday on saturated Southern California as the fourth Pacific storm in a week came ashore, triggering dire warnings by authorities that mud flows were likely in foothill communities and residents of endangered homes should obey evacuation orders.

Travel snarls mounted as a major highway was closed by snow and strong winds forced cancellation of dozens of flights at several airports.

The siege of storms has led to several deaths statewide and flooding in urban areas and on freeways.

Officials appeared concerned the lack of massive debris flows from wildfire burn areas was misleading for residents.

"It's time to roll, it's time to evacuate," said Los Angeles County Public Works Director Gail Farber.

County Fire Chief Deputy John Tripp bluntly warned that significant debris flows were likely and probably would block potential rescue attempts.

"For those people that are still in the homes and are in those areas of threat, it's very likely we will not be able to reach you," he said.

In the upper reaches of suburban La Canada Flintridge, where mountainsides rise sharply from the backyards of homes, authorities put pink ribbons on the mailboxes of residents who stayed behind so they would know where to search in the event of a catastrophe.
Above average or average temps. for the next 10 days:

Local Text Forecast for
West Palm Beach, FL (33409)

Jan 21 Tonight
A few clouds with an isolated thunderstorm possible after midnight. Low 68F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
Jan 22 Tomorrow
Variable clouds with scattered showers and thunderstorms, mainly in the afternoon. High 79F. Winds SW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
Jan 22 Tomorrow night
A few clouds. Chance of a shower or thunderstorm through the evening. Low 62F. Winds W at 10 to 20 mph.
Jan 23 Saturday
Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the mid 60s.
Jan 24 Sunday
Partly cloudy, chance of a thunderstorm. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the upper 60s.
Jan 25 Monday
Windy with a possible thunderstorm. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Jan 26 Tuesday
Partly cloudy. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
Jan 27 Wednesday
Abundant sunshine. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the low 60s.
Jan 28 Thursday
A few clouds. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the low 60s.
Jan 29 Friday
Mostly cloudy. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the upper 50s.
Jan 30 Saturday
More clouds than sun. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the upper 50s.
Quoting RitaEvac:


Basically would have to buy water in bundles starting now and have from the floor up to ceiling in closets to survive months. Years? no clue. Once water goes off, no drinking, no baths, no washing, have to catch off your roof. No heat, No AC, no medicine making, canned food only gonna last till you run out.
ultimate population reduction plan only the smart will survive and strong sad but thats the way it must be
do ever feel like your talking to yourself or talking and nobody is listening?
i have figured out how to run the model but can only get up to about 3 days out.

http://weather.unisys.com/nam/loop/nam_pres_loop.html

Quoting FLPandhandleJG:

we might have another cold snap coming down to the south and more moisture.. might get messy.. we will c!


This graph, please where is this graph????
it shows that 3 more storms are coming in the next 10 days.
the 26th - 30th is high tide.

and of course it doesn't show the graph, it's from entry #267
Quoting CycloneOz:
More photos from this incredible, significant weather event affecting the southwest U.S. The picture of Walnut Canyon is from my backyard. Not a bad view, eh? :)







Beautiful view!
Re - 297:

The ice-free zone has reached past Jakobshavn Isbrae in Western Greenland:

Quoting AstroHurricane001:
Re - 297:



Those are reported though, it is impossible to say every major disaster from 1900-1950 was reported as opposed to now where we are able to record everything.
335. P451
Quoting AstroHurricane001:
Re - 297:



That is a bad image. You have to take into account the number of people around to report such disasters.

That is essentially what you are seeing. More people means more people are there to witness and report disasters.

Nothing more.

That a dalmatian mix Oz?
337. P451
Quoting trinigal:


We adapt. Yes, things might be a bit squirrly at first but give yourself more credit. Give yourself time to adjust. I lived in a tent in Haiti for half a year. I adjusted :) I certainly was happy to come back to bathtubs and air conditioning though :)

It's sort of like television. We don't watch a lot of it. When we have people come stay with us, often the children go a bit nutso at first but within several days, they are coming up with great games and having a blast. Give yourself more credit :)


Perhaps. I think most people would go insane in a hurry. Living where I do in New Jersey...we wouldn't have much time. Resources would run out rapidly. People will start kicking down other peoples' doors in search of supplies. It's a given.


Quoting RitaEvac:


Basically would have to buy water in bundles starting now and have from the floor up to ceiling in closets to survive months. Years? no clue. Once water goes off, no drinking, no baths, no washing, have to catch off your roof. No heat, No AC, no medicine making, canned food only gonna last till you run out.


Wouldn't last long at all. Depending on where you live of course. I think some could become self sufficient. Perhaps Northern New England, the Appalachians, the western regions such as Idaho, Montana, etc.

You have to remember that if things break down...there are no deliveries. What is there is there and once it is taken it's gone. There is no re-supply.

Most of us are screwed if a planet changing event happens.. Supermarkets would be stripped bare in less than two days. Your own cubbords would be empty within seven. Then what?

Pillage. That's what. That won't last long either.


Quoting WaterWitch11:
do ever feel like your talking to yourself or talking and nobody is listening?
i have figured out how to run the model but can only get up to about 3 days out.

http://weather.unisys.com/nam/loop/nam_pres_loop.html

Quoting FLPandhandleJG:

we might have another cold snap coming down to the south and more moisture.. might get messy.. we will c!


This graph, please where is this graph????
it shows that 3 more storms are coming in the next 10 days.
the 26th - 30th is high tide.

and of course it doesn't show the graph, it's from entry #267


no idc if anyone responds or not.. just like showing sum info.. But tampaspin aka Tim has a good site and links to go too.. but again anything more than 3 days out isnt certain.. but its worth looking at and just in case if it does come true or not.. right now models are agreeing and disagreeing.. just a matter of time they will agree or they go to another route.. Models attend to flip flop from time to time depends how far u go out with the models.. heres couple of links where u can get sum of the stuff..

weathercenter

Weatherlinks

hope this helps to get u going. well bbl peeps
339. P451
Nice pics, Oz.
NWS.DISCUSSION...AS OF 2:30 PM PST THURSDAY...SHOWERS DIMINISHING
TONIGHT WITH THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM ON TAP STARTING LATE SUNDAY.

VERY DEEP AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CONTINUES TO MOVE ACROSS THE CWA
THIS AFTERNOON. PRESSURE AT MONTEREY BOTTOMED OUT NEAR 28.86"
Quoting P451:


Perhaps. I think most people would go insane in a hurry. Living where I do in New Jersey...we wouldn't have much time. Resources would run out rapidly.

You need a water purification/filter system (not too expensive but you need to re-supply fresh filters too).
Perfect is you have your own wind and/or solar energy generator (which can be build from trash - you need some special parts though, which can be bought relativly cheap - there are videos on youtube). Of course if you wise you have already an electric powered vehicle ;)

Food will be a tuff one, but you can grow food, even in your home. What you need therefor is seeds.

Of course you need a home which can handle tornadoes, flooding, hurricanes and earthquakes. Which can be done just from trees basicly - you would need a basement though which is kind of solid and a water pump maybe. Ok maybe not only trees but those can handle earthquakes and flood at least.

It is defintly doable and i guess the future for some effected areas.
Quoting ElConando:
That a dalmatian mix Oz?


That is Dakota, a German short-haired pointer. Here's a shot of her at work from this past year.



...and the story of how she got trained:

How To Train Your Hunting Dog With Only Three Shots

Creatures with natural talent are always exciting to observe. I had a natural talent to play the piano. I was so exciting at my first recital, I got a standing ovation. Tiger Woods is another creature with natural talent. He just oozes it. Too bad he likes oozing other stuff. (Hope you lose, Tiger! :)

And then there's my German Short-haired Pointer, Dakota. She's a handful of dog, I mean to tell ya. Loves to run...away from you. She has boundless energy and rockets away from you as if she were free of any Earthly constraints.

I tried to train her. I held her down on the ground to show that I was the pack leader. I used different types of whistles and calls to get her to obey my commands. Everything I tried failed. And when I released the leash, off she would go again, some half mile ahead and running hard.

And so it was on her first hunt back in September 2009. I drove deep into the mountains and found a perfect glen to go hunt for Blue Grousse. We got there at the perfect hour on a perfect day. No one else was hunting this glen and I was sure the grousse were hunkered down in all the tall grass.


I tried speaking to Dakota before releasing her. "Please baby, don't run off again," I practically begged her. But with the click of the leash's clip, off she went again. Birds, nice big fat plump ones scattered high into the air as my dog frolicked around their nests. They were grousse. They were a bit hard to see from a quarter mile away, but they were grousse.

I was so frustrated, I shot my gun into the air, not aiming at anything.

To my surprise, Dakota ran back to me. Wow, I thought. I actually have something that gets this dog's attention and causes her to return to me. So I talked to her a lit bit and started walking again.

Again, she tore off, but before she got too far, I shot the gun again. Once more, she came prancing back to my side. "Alright girl," I finally said. "You're pissing me off. Start using your nose!" And off I started walking. Dakota went ahead, but not at a sprint like she preferred to do. And as soon as she got to the perfect distance in front of me, I shot one last shell off from my shotgun.

Amazingly, Dakota started sniffing the air hard with her nose and then running back and forth in front of me for the rest of the day. Then, there were times when she'd smell a bird and stalk up on it before going into full point. Wow, what a specimen of a dog! In a miracle of Biblical proportions, my dog began behaving like a world class bird dog using only three shotgun blasts.

She is today one of the finest dogs a man could own. She's affectionate, obedient, and very skillful in the tall grass. Dakota is a great dog, but we will not breed her.

Having eight little monsters running around our house destroying everything would be too much for my old heart to take.
343. P451
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:

You need a water purification/filter system (not too expensive but you need to re-supply fresh filters too).
Perfect is you have your own wind and/or solar energy generator (which can be build from trash - you need some special parts though, which can be bought relativly cheap - there are videos on youtube). Of course if you wise you have already a electric powered vehicle ;)

Food will be a tuff one, but you can grow food, even in your home. What you need therefor is seeds.

Of course you need a home which can handle tornadoes, flooding, hurricanes and earthquakes. Which can be done just from trees basicly - you would need a basement though which is kind of solid and a water pump maybe.

It is defintly doable and i guess the future.


I garden extensively. Got 400 square feet worth. Trust me it's not enough at all.

As to electricity the second a dying neighbor sees a light on in your house he's grabbing his gun and he's kicking your door down.

You just can't do that. Once anyone sees you're doing good they are going to want in on it. And they'll take it by force if necessary.

Think about it. Would you sit idly by while you watch the guy next door eat well and have light and heat while you're starving and freezing to death?

No, you wouldn't...no matter how good of a person you are.

It's just the reality of it all.

I do pity anyone who tries to kick my door down. They're not getting far. Kinda sucks for me though. Cleaning up the mess.
beautiful dog OZ. I had the best deer dogs in the county,(past away of old age) but I've always wanted to hunt with a bird dog.
Very nice girl you have there.
Quoting P451:


I garden extensively. Got 400 square feet worth. Trust me it's not enough at all.

As to electricity the second a dying neighbor sees a light on in your house he's grabbing his gun and he's kicking your door down.

You just can't do that. Once anyone sees you're doing good they are going to want in on it. And they'll take it by force if necessary.

Think about it. Would you sit idly by while you watch the guy next door eat well and have light and heat while you're starving and freezing to death?

No, you wouldn't...no matter how good of a person you are.

It's just the reality of it all.

I do pity anyone who tries to kick my door down. They're not getting far. Kinda sucks for me though. Cleaning up the mess.

This garden is an good example :)


You need to colaborate with your neighbours and before such a situation is occuring you can hope for the government to establish something in advance?
Basicly you need energy and the place to grow something. And it depends, you would not be the only one with electricity, and i don't talk about an anarchy scenario. Well ;)
If I had money I'd be a survivalist!! Buy a spead of land, plant the garden, get some livestock, invest in the solar panels and most importantly hoard supplies.

But I don't so guess I'll get through a week if the worst ever happens.
Quoting geepy86:
beautiful dog OZ. I had the best deer dogs in the county,(past away of old age) but I've always wanted to hunt with a bird dog.
Very nice girl you have there.


I have emotionally bonded to her. When it's her time to pass on, I know I'll be heartbroken as you must have been. There's nothing quite like a dog that actually works with you. When you're out alone in the field, it truly feels like your with your best friend when your dog is there with you.

But there are dogs designed just for lovin'.
These are my other dogs, Lexi, Gus and Rusty.



They are white miniature schnauzers. They're great to rub on while watching television...but that's about it.


as of now, its goin to b a crazy weather for the southwest and into midwest.. Possibly an icestorm would b forming.. then next week could c another round of severe storms and maybe another cold air mass dive but wont as strong as the last cold air mass.. i believe we c the cold come back to the south probably or near the start of february.. does anyone disagree or its too early to say..
337: Suddenly the Amish seem a lot more capable than the rest of us....
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


as of now, its goin to b a crazy weather for the southwest and into midwest.. Possibly an icestorm would b forming.. then next week could c another round of severe storms and maybe another cold air mass dive but wont as strong as the last cold air mass.. i believe we c the cold come back to the south probably or near the start of february.. does anyone disagree or its too early to say..


Just wait until large population centers east of here get a taste of this monster storm hitting us for the next two days.

It sure is a hum-dinger!
Personal opinion of any dog small enough to have comfortably in lap: Ugly-loud cat.

(j/k)
Quoting CycloneOz:


Just wait until large population centers east of here get a taste of this monster storm hitting us for the next two days.

It sure is a hum-dinger!


thats for sure.. thats one strong L.. its goin to create havoc on which path it goes..

hey jeff9641 wheres the rain
355. P451
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


thats for sure.. thats one strong L.. its goin to create havoc on which path it goes..


Interestingly enough nothing is really forecasted. Western VA is slated to get a decent snow storm (up to 10 inches) and eastern VA a decent 1" rain but outside of that...you wouldn't know this system is any big deal.

It's almost like it doesn't even exist outside of Virginia on Friday.

B.B. SHOW LINK

Link
357. chawk
Someone posted the theory that weather events may play a role in earthquake occurance. Is it possible that the incredibly large area of record cold that reached all the way to Cuba and for a sustained period, caused contraction of the earths outer crust thus causing the faults in the Carribean to move??
This remnant swirl moving NNW up the coast is very peculiar to me...



main storm...


and you can really see the jet going straight into the baja here...
Quoting chawk:
Someone posted the theory that weather events may play a role in earthquake occurance. Is it possible that the incredibly large area of record cold that reached all the way to Cuba and for a sustained period, caused contraction of the earths outer crust thus causing the faults in the Carribean to move??

No. Little problem of latent heat in the crust, not to mention an insulating layer of water
Haiti contributions deductible for 2009 taxesBy Hibah Yousuf, staff reporterJanuary 21, 2010: 5:50 PM ET


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Senate unanimously passed legislation Thursday that will allow taxpayers to deduct cash donations to Haiti earthquake relief on their 2009 tax returns instead of having to wait to file the claims next year.
361. chawk
Quoting transitzone:

No. Little problem of latent heat in the crust, not to mention an insulating layer of water

Just thinking of how even the smallest change in latent heat temperature over such a large area of land such as what happened a few weeks ago could translate into fractional contraction. The slightly cooled large land mass is attached to what is beneath the ocean and any movement would affect the seafloor as well. It is ironic that about the time the extreme cold was lifting out of the Southeast there was also widespread seismic activity in the Carribean.
Quoting chawk:

Just thinking of how even the smallest change in latent heat temperature over such a large area of land such as what happened a few weeks ago could translate into fractional contraction. The slightly cooled large land mass is attached to what is beneath the ocean and any movement would affect the seafloor as well. It is ironic that about the time the extreme cold was lifting out of the Southeast there was also widespread seismic activity in the Carribean.


Coincidental, but not ironic.

The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) employed nearly 400 Haitians in cash-for-work activities to jump start the local economy and facilitate the delivery of urgently needed humanitarian assistance. By the end of the week, this programme will expand to include another 700 people working on rubble removal and the rehabilitation of essential social infrastructure, such as street repairs and electricity.
As the co-ordinator of the UN early recovery team, UNDP is also working with the Government of Haiti and other partners to assess damages and needs, devise plans for rebuilding, and begin these immediate responses.
The first phase of the cash-for-work programme will focus on Carrefour-Feuilles, a neighborhood just south of Port-au-Prince. The initiative will soon be rolled out in other earthquake-stricken locations, including Leogane and Jacmel. Once fully operational, the project will employ 220,000 people, indirectly benefitting around 1 million Haitians
Past UNDP cash-for-work programmes in Haiti have laid the groundwork for this current initiative. After the 2008 hurricanes that killed 800 people and left 165,000 families homeless in Haiti, UNDP worked closely with the Haitian Government on reconstruction efforts, particularly focusing cash-for-work initiatives and watershed rehabilitation.
The cash-for-work programme launched Tuesday builds on UNDPs Briquettes Project, a cash-for-work programme designed to combat climate change and reduce poverty. To speed up the rubble clearing process, UNDP, as a first step, used the resources and staff previously employed by the Briquettes Project. But UNDP is currently in the process of selecting the additional 700 people to be employed by the end of this week.

Bio-briquette production saves environment, increases income

People of Dumarwana VDC, Bara district have been producing and using briquettes for cooking as it greatly helps in reducing indoor pollution. Briquettes are used as substitute for firewood and kerosene and it hugely reduces carbondioxide emission.

The production of bio-briquettes has added a new dimension to the lives of women as it has also become a source of income for them. The women earn up to Rs. 6000 per month by producing briquettes. One group (3-4 women) produces around 1000 briquettes per day. “There is intensive labour involved in the production as everything is done manually but it is good to have something than nothing,” say the women. The income helps them to pay their children’s school fees and run the household.

In order to increase income and expand business, these enterprising women are still looking for further opportunities as the production of briquettes is seasonal only. The project is supported by UNDP/ GEF Small Grants Programme.
UDP

It is not clear to me which technique they exactly use to create those bio-briquettes.

See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochar
Quoting atmoaggie:
Personal opinion of any dog small enough to have comfortably in lap: Ugly-loud cat.

(j/k)


We resemble that opinion!! Har-umph...
Huntsville tornado forming - from youtube - pretty impressive

Link
Quoting AstroHurricane001:
Re - 297:


This is because of better observation techniques, not from Global Warming.
Press rocked on the Bsrometer Bob show...just so you know...
Quoting chawk:
Someone posted the theory that weather events may play a role in earthquake occurance. Is it possible that the incredibly large area of record cold that reached all the way to Cuba and for a sustained period, caused contraction of the earths outer crust thus causing the faults in the Carribean to move??


No. And a big area of high atmospheric pressure could not have had an effect either. ;) What'a a few mb, or degrees C, when you are talking about all that water and rock? But then again, the surface area is large, the fault area is small, and it might have been ready to go anyway... Who knows for sure?
370. BtnTx
Quoting Floodman:
Press rocked on the Bsrometer Bob show...just so you know...

-and so did you good job!


Here Is My old hunting dog
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