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Second ferocious Nor'easter in a week pounds U.S. East Coast

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:57 PM GMT on February 10, 2010

A ferocious blizzard likely to be even more intense that last weekend's crippling Mid-Atlantic "Snowmageddon" snowstorm is rapidly intensifying off the Northeast U.S. coast, just south of New York City today. Blizzard conditions with heavy snow, high winds, and near zero visibility have hit or are expected to hit portions of West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, Washington D.C., Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, and New York, including the cities of New York, Newark, Wilmington, Atlantic City, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Washington D.C. The storm responsible tracked across the center of the country yesterday, leaving a wide swath of snow amounts of 4 - 16" across Texas, Tennessee, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Missouri, Minnesota, Kansas, Iowa, Arkansas, Alabama, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky. The storm is now centered over Lake Erie, with a new 989 mb low pressure center developing off the coast of Delaware. This new low is predicted to "bomb" into a mighty Nor'easter with a central pressure below 970 mb, the kind of pressure typically found in a Category 1 hurricane. This will bring strong winds, gusting over 40 mph, to a large portion of the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast U.S. today, causing a larger region of blizzard conditions with blowing and drifting snow than was experienced during last weekend's "Snowmageddon" Nor'easter. Fortunately, today's Nor'easter will be far enough from the coast during its peak intensity that coastal flooding from storm surges will not be a concern. In addition, today's blizzard has a lower moisture content than "Snowmageddon", and the snowfall totals will not be as great. The storm has also wrapped in some warmer air from the south, resulting in a change-over to freezing rain and sleet near the coast this morning, which will limit accumulations. Nevertheless, most of the Mid-Atlantic that received two feet of snow from "Snowmageddon" last weekend will receive another foot of snow today, and there is a significant risk of roof collapses from the weight of all this snow.


Figure 1. The Nor'easter of February, 11, 2010 in a visible satellite image taken at 9:01 am EST. Image credit: NASA GOES project.

Snowiest winter on record for Baltimore, Wilmington, and Dulles
The snow from this latest blizzard have pushed snow totals for the 2009 - 2010 winter season to a new record for Baltimore, Wilmington, and Dulles Airport, and will likely set a new seasonal snowfall record in Philadelphia, Atlantic City, and Washington National Airport later today. As of midnight last night, here are the snowfall numbers so far for the 2009 - 2010 winter, and the records they have broken:

Baltimore, MD, 64.4". Old record: 62.5", winter of 1995 - 1996.
Washington Dulles Airport, VA, 65.7". Old record: 61.9", winter of 1995 - 1996.
Wilmington, DE, 59.5". Old record: 55.9", winter of 1995 - 1996.

Cities close to breaking their seasonal snowfall record:

Philadelphia, PA, 62.3". Current record: 65.5", winter of 1995 - 1996.
Washington D.C. National Airport, 48.8". Current record: 54.4", winter of 1898 - 1899.
Atlantic City, NJ, 45.5". Current record: 46.9", winter of 1966 - 1967.

All this comes with the end of winter still more than a month away. The latest runs of the GFS and ECMWF models show yet another Nor'easter hitting the D.C./Baltimore/Philadelphia region next Monday. However, next Monday's storm is likely to be much weaker than the last two Nor'easters, with perhaps 4 - 8 inches of snow falling. It is too early to be confident of this prediction, and a Mid-Atlantic snowstorm may not materialize at all on Monday--or the storm could grow stronger than currently forecast, with more than a foot of snow falling.

Heavy snow events--a contradiction to global warming theory?
As I discussed in my previous post, record-breaking snowstorms are not an indication that global warming is not occurring. In fact, we can expect there may be more heavy snowstorms in regions where it is cold enough to snow, due to the extra moisture global warming has added to the atmosphere--an extra 4% since 1970. Snow is not the same as cold, and we have to look at global temperatures, not snowfall, to evaluate whether global warming is occurring. Heavy snow can act to bring down global temperatures, as occurred in December 2009, when the Northern Hemisphere experienced its second greatest snow extent on record (only 1985 saw greater December snow cover since reliable snow records began in 1967). Global average land temperatures, as a result, were just 31st warmest on record, even though global ocean temperatures were the 2nd warmest on record. It will be interesting to see what global temperatures did in January, when the statistics are released next week. The global temperature of the lower atmosphere as measured by satellites was the warmest on record in January, and by a considerable margin. I'll discuss this finding in more detail once the blizzard is over. It's also of interest to note that December temperatures in the U.S. were the 18th coldest in the historical record, but January temperatures were 0.3°F above average, according to the National Climatic Data Center. As a whole, it's been a colder than average winter in the U.S., but not greatly so. However, December snow cover was the greatest on record in the contiguous U.S., and January's ranked sixth. Snow cover records go back 44 years, to 1967.

Portlight continues relief efforts in Haiti
Portlight.org disaster-relief continues to be more effective than some of the traditional large aid agencies in getting much-needed crutches, walkers, and other medical supplies to disabled victims of the Haitian earthquake. So, please visit the Portlight.org blog to learn more and to donate. Floodman's blog has the latest info on Portlight's plan for Haitian relief. A few highlights from his blog:

The latest shipment arrived at Quisqueya University in Port-au-Prince on Friday morning; the shipment was unloaded and a portion of the supplies distributed to the St Nicholas Hospital in Sainte-Marc north of Port-au-Prince. This shipment included wheelchairs, crutches and canes in addition to clinical supplies. It was a busy day at Quisqueya; Susan Eitel, representative of USAID met with Richard this morning and Dr. Amy Nguyen of ACTS World Relief took delivery of DME at the Quisqueya campus.

We have several additional shipments queued up for transport, one of which shipped on Saturday; these shipments include the remainder of the donation from H&H Wholesalers. We are hoping to have another shipment out in the next few days.

We are concentrating on distribution for the next few days as storage is currently at a premium at Quisqueya; we are also concentrating on expanding our storage capabilities to allow for larger shipments to be handled, allowing us to help a larger segment of the disabled community.



Figure 2. The Portlight Relief Team unloads crutches shipped from Portlight's warehouse in Atlanta to a staging area at University Quisqeya, Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The relief team consists of ten Haitians being coordinated by Haitian-American Richard Lumarque, Portlight's on-site coordinator in Haiti. The relief team has been working full-time over the past week doing aid work.

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Woohoo, another day of "No School". The kids will be crying about it in the Summer when they have to make up the Snow Days, lol.
Whiteout, Feb. 10
Whiteout, Feb. 10
We have whiteout conditions in the Annandale area of Fairfax County. The wind is picking up at a fast pace. We are now under a blizzard warning.
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Reader Comments

Snow generally along the I-10 corridor:

502. P451
Thanks for the comments everyone. It truly is amazing this winter up here.

A few last photos.

We're pushing 24" now.



Areas that do not get snow will get the snow.
504. P451
They don't call it winter's hurricane for nothing.

505. xcool
very good Get Big. Fast he 2 monthly !!!!!!
That things got a eye
Quoting MrJoeBlow:
Areas that do not get snow will get the snow.
and areas that get snow gets none
Quoting xcool:
very good Get Big. Fast he 2 monthly !!!!!!

I bet..
Somebody done made mother nature mad
510. xcool
yeah . ILOVE BE Daddy's
Quoting Drakoen:
NAM 00z is looking really good and pushing the snow line further south.


Dang, looking to be an actual snow event north of Lake P in Se LA and I am leaving for Miami in the morning...I think I 'd rather stay home.
Quoting atmoaggie:

The loop current is mentionable? It is like that always...all year long. 26 C, or better, at all times.


It then continues south of Florida to become the Gulf Stream, which keeps diverting west of Greenland. Since we have two major loops in the GOM right now, with the main loop current being the warmer one, will this have a significant effect on any GOM storms this hurricane season and is there a way to compare to other winter GOM SSTs and the hurricane seasons of those years?
Quoting atmoaggie:

Dang, looking to be an actual snow event north of Lake P in Se LA and I am leaving for Miami in the morning...I think I 'd rather stay home.


Yep, and the 850mb-700mb layer appears to be freezing and the 1000mb-850mb layer is subfreezing. Would see 1-3 inches of snow north of Lake P, I-12 northward.
516. unf97
Drak, after glancing at the model runs, it definitely is looking to me that the snow line will run right along or just north of Interstate 10. The trend continues to be colder southward with each and every model run to this point.
517. xcool




Quoting P451:
They don't call it winter's hurricane for nothing.



Wow, every Northeast storm is doing this now, and the "eye" of this particular storm just entered the Gulf Stream. We only got about 5 cm (2 in) here in S. Ontario from the storm. It has three low pressure centers: one southeast of New York, one south of Nova Scotia and east of Cape Cod, and one northeast of Bermuda.
Quoting xcool:






thats nice snow map.. I like our chances..we shall c!
Send it to the Pacific Northwest! Please! Here it's to warm, January was the warmest ever, it's too sunny, the skiing is awful, the mountain snowpack is way below normal. The maple and willow trees have all broken buds way to early. And the "Winter" Olympics in Vancouver BC, not a pretty picture. Maybe the events should be moved to D.C. instead of B.C.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
and areas that get snow gets none


Yes, here at my location we've had ONE major snowstorm with more than 20 cm, and Toronto hasn't had any. What we really need is a big 90 cm (36 in) snowstorm at the end of March to even things out. Remember that storm we got in early April last year? :)

Quoting MrJoeBlow:
Somebody done made mother nature mad


I'll say it was the world leaders who failed at the Copenhagen Conference. In the past two months the global weather patterns have been going crazy.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


Wow tropical and Arctic wrap-around, coming right off of New Jersey.
523. xcool
let itt snowwwwww
520...Crazy climate you're having up there! And freezing temps. in Fla.!
The NAM 00z has pushed the heaviest snowfall southward because of the resulting push of the rain/snow line southward. I think the NAM is underscoring the potential in northern and central Louisiana and central Mississippi and Alabama but we will see.
could this be as bad as super storm of 93?
and this thing of global warming has me all confused,huge snow storms in the northeast and snow in the deep south,whats next?
Good evening..bring on that southern swing!..if we are going to get snow here in Mobile then it needs to be more than a trace..gotta have enough to get people off the roads so that the "Lower Alabama Rednecks" can have their fun!..lol
this one is about few hours old or so..

Model-Loop

Be right back, updating more for my computer!
Quoting xcool:






More snow in parts of Alabama, Mississippi and FLORIDA than in S. Ontario?!

Quoting UrbnPrsn:
Send it to the Pacific Northwest! Please! Here it's to warm, January was the warmest ever, it's too sunny, the skiing is awful, the mountain snowpack is way below normal. The maple and willow trees have all broken buds way to early. And the "Winter" Olympics in Vancouver BC, not a pretty picture. Maybe the events should be moved to D.C. instead of B.C.


Yes, they have to make snow for the hills now. Link
MHC,

.SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY/...
AS OF 330 PM WEDNESDAY...DIMINISHING WINDS AND DRY WEATHER
EXPECTED THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE SLOWLY BUILDS INTO
THE AREA. COULD SEE A FEW WIND GUSTS TO 25 KT THURSDAY BUT MORE
MORE TRANQUIL THAN TODAY. WENT BELOW MOS GUIDANCE AGAIN THURSDAY
AND THURSDAY NIGHT CLOSE TO CURRENT FORECAST TEMPERATURES WITH
BELOW NORMAL READINGS EXPECTED THROUGH FRIDAY.

THE FORECAST FOR FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY TRICKY AS LOW PRESSURE
SKIRTS BY TO THE SOUTH. THE MODELS CONTINUE TO EXHIBIT A WIDE RANGE
IN TRACKS BUT CONSENSUS IS FOR A MORE NORTHWARD POSITION WITH AT
LEAST A CHANCE FOR SOME MOISTURE TO SNEAK INTO THE AREA WITH
TEMPERATURES COLD ENOUGH FOR WINTRY WEATHER. NONE OF THE MODELS IS
INDICATING MUCH IN THE WAY OF QPF BUT THERE IS ENOUGH AGREEMENT TO
MENTION A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SNOW FRIDAY NIGHT AND CHANCE OF RAIN OR
SNOW FOR SATURDAY. HAVE FORECAST HIGHS SATURDAY IN THE UPPER 30S
BUT THESE VALUES ARE PROBABLY TOO WARM.
Quoting MississippiBoy:
could this be as bad as super storm of 93?
and this thing of global warming has me all confused,huge snow storms in the northeast and snow in the deep south,whats next?


I agree..Global warming...Hah! So goes the United States...so goes the world...But climate change, hmmmmm, that might be a different story.
Who thinks snow will make it south of LAke P?
if it snows in new orleans send the olympics down here we will show them some southern hospitality,and show them how to throw a party.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I agree..Global warming...Hah! So goes the United States...so goes the world...But climate change, hmmmmm, that might be a different story.


Like I said, first you have the extremes accelerating all over the place, then the averages start to catch up and take the extremes more toward the warmer side. The weaker temperature gradient and Arctic Dipole may be responsible for jet streams moving south over Northern Hemisphere continents during negative phases of the Arctic Oscillation, where the cold air pours over land and leaves the Arctic Ocean warm. This winter, it seems that the jet streams have been dumping the storms in a direct west-east track over the US instead of making them rise over Canada, and this cold weather in Conservative occupied lands is causing an increase in climate skepticism.

Some of the storms have been pulling warmth and moisture from the Pacific and Atlantic at the same time while situated over the US. The storms then move over the Gulf Stream and repeatedly disrupt it before splitting into multiple storms and moving on to Europe.
That's what i thought Astro...OOOOOH...The Three Stooges are on :)
Quoting weatherman874:
Who thinks snow will make it south of LAke P?


The 00Z NAM forecasts the 850mb Freezing line to dip just south of New Orleans in approximately 42 hours. If this verifies we would have a period of wet snow in the New Orleans area. Do not expect any kind of accumulation.
Quoting SevereHurricane:


The 00Z NAM forecasts the 850mb Freezing line to dip just south of New Orleans in approximately 42 hours. If this verifies we would have a period of wet snow in the New Orleans area. Do not expect any kind of accumulation.


Ill take anything ha!
with all said is the earth getting warmer over time?
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I agree..Global warming...Hah! So goes the United States...so goes the world...But climate change, hmmmmm, that might be a different story.
maybe climate shift
538...I have my heater on...you tell me?
Quoting weatherman874:


Ill take anything ha!


I hear ya brother.
I'll accept that Keeper.
good evening guys!

feel free to check out my new blog!
me too i think they have lost their mind and spent a lot of money on stuff that the good Lord will take care of in time.just think of how many people they could have fed or housed.
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


It then continues south of Florida to become the Gulf Stream, which keeps diverting west of Greenland. Since we have two major loops in the GOM right now, with the main loop current being the warmer one, will this have a significant effect on any GOM storms this hurricane season and is there a way to compare to other winter GOM SSTs and the hurricane seasons of those years?

2 loops?

The warm loop coming up from west of Cuba, into the gulf, then back south and out the straits of Florida is the usual gulf loop.

What other loop? That warm pool in the BOC?
The NAM 00z is creating a swath of 3-4 inches from Mobile stretching along I-10 towards Defuniak Springs.
Quoting MississippiBoy:
me too i think they have lost their mind and spent a lot of money on stuff that the good Lord will take care of in time.just think of how many people they could have fed or housed.


A believer like me! If God brings snow, rain, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc...He will take care of it in time.
The 00Z operational GFS also trended southward with the 850mb freezing line. Our NWS office is very GFS biased so I wouldn't be surprised if they made some small changes to their forecast grids. Regardless, it is going to be a close call.
hey drak i live in jackson county in ms,northern part of county.how much could we get and time frame?
Quoting Drakoen:
The NAM 00z is creating a swath of 3-4 inches from Mobile stretching along I-10 towards Defuniak Springs.



hahahaha...I love it!...I hope it happens so that my granddaughters can experience their first snow..and your know that more than a few flakes is a blizzard here!
Quoting MississippiBoy:
hey drak i live in jackson county in ms,northern part of county.how much could we get and time frame?


4-6 inches is my current thinking.
me too bama
errr so much talk about east of Texas what about us?????? our people are calling for sleet mabey snow for tonight through thursday night now if it gets a lil bit colder here what do you guys think will happen?
554. xcool
2-3 inches for slidell la
thanks drak,snow day in south ms,weeeeeeee!!!!!!
The GFS 00z looks very reasonable and what I think will happen at this time. It's a little further south with the rain/snow line and more widespread with the snow swath coverage to include areas closer to the coast to get accumulation.



Quoting MississippiBoy:
thanks drak,snow day in south ms,weeeeeeee!!!!!!


Be sure to take pictures and post them!
558. unf97
Drak,

That 3 to 4 inch swarth the NAM is depicting is interesting. That should get Ike's attention for sure.

Also, Drak how do you see the upper air dynamics of this system. Earlier, the models didn't want to "close off" an upper Low, instead shearing it out.

If this GOM Low deepens more than currently depicted by the models, I am inclined to believe the upper dynamics would also be stronger as well. Should this happen, it would pull more moisture into the region, hence the possiblities of more snow in the watch areas.
Quoting Drakoen:
The GFS 00z looks very reasonable and what I think will happen at this time. It's a little further south with the rain/snow line and more widespread with the snow swath coverage to include areas closer to the coast to get accumulation.



Still no dice for Tally right?
old man sounding like a young kid over something as small as a little snow falling out of the sky,i betcha the people on the east coast would give us all we wanted if they could give it to us.
"...Rio the hottest place on the planet on Tuesday, save for Ada, a town in eastern Ghana...
...recorded temperature that day was 46.3 degrees Celsius [115degreesFahrenheit]...
...being in Rio was worse than being in a dry desert because seaside humidity gave the temperature a suffocating boost, making it feel much higher...
...Rio's heatwave was forecast to continue into...the city's famous four-day Carnival..."
Quoting ElConando:


Still no dice for Tally right?


The NAM and the GFS 00z runs would allow Tallahassee to see a rain/snow mix or a brief period of flurries on the very back edge of the system.
New blogger here ! Nice to be on this blog. I have no formal training in weather sciencel, but have always been interested. I live in coastal Texas south of Houston, and evacuated for IKE. I am a geologist. HI EVERYONE !
you bet Geo,i'll try to get some good ones
Quoting Drakoen:


The NAM and the GFS 00z runs would allow Tallahassee to see a rain/snow mix or a brief period of flurries on the very back edge of the system.


Really? Sounds interesting! I've only seen one snow flurry in my life so it would be great to see another one.
Quoting SNOWARMER:
New blogger here ! Nice to be on this blog. I have no formal training in weather sciencel, but have always been interested. I live in coastal Texas south of Houston, and evacuated for IKE. I am a geologist. HI EVERYONE !


Welcome to the blog! Was the earthquake in Illinos this morning really that rare?
Quoting SNOWARMER:
New blogger here ! Nice to be on this blog. I have no formal training in weather sciencel, but have always been interested. I live in coastal Texas south of Houston, and evacuated for IKE. I am a geologist. HI EVERYONE !


Welcome to WU Board.. U shall learn like i do everyday.. :)
Hope all you bloggers in north Fla. get to see some of the whtie stuff! That would be cool!
The 00Z GFS have both trended colder in their 00Z runs. Lets see if the GGEM and ECMWF suite's show similar solutions.
Latest forecast from the boys are Mobile:


Area forecast discussion...mesoscale update
National Weather Service Mobile Alabama
955 PM CST Wednesday Feb 10 2010



Update...evening forecast looks to be on track. No adjustments for
the overnight expected. Will update the Winter Storm Watch just
before midnight...but no changes will be made at this time. Evening
model run data still coming in...and from what we have seen thus far
still indicates that significant snowfall accumulations will be
possible from late Thursday night into much of the day on Friday.
00z NAM buffer soundings for kmob and kgzh indicate heavy snowfall
possible by around 17z Friday...with even the kpns sounding
indicating a rain/snow mix changing to all snow at times around late
morning Friday. For now have the significant snow accumulations over
our interior zones...but we will have to monitor this developing
weather situation closely. Snowfall accumulations of two to four
inches are possible across the northern half of the watch area with
totals of one to three inches possible further south. There is still
some uncertainty regarding the forecast track of the surface
low...so stay tuned. The overnight shift will likely make further
adjustments to the forecast...and a Winter Storm Warning or Winter
Weather Advisory will likely be required for at least some of the
watch area. 12/ds

Quoting SNOWARMER:
New blogger here ! Nice to be on this blog. I have no formal training in weather sciencel, but have always been interested. I live in coastal Texas south of Houston, and evacuated for IKE. I am a geologist. HI EVERYONE !


welcome! you have definitely found a great blog that one can learn a lot from! glad you decided to join. Although there can be a little bickering here and there :P
my quote button not working,help
nevermind ;)
572...sometimes you have to click it twice
Geoffrey, Illinois and Missori and the areas around there are on the "Stable Craton" of North America, and seismic activity is rather rare. But the renowned Madrid fault zone is near, and produced spectacular seismic activity within historic times. I was raised in California, and so am a "shaker" from those days !
Quoting unf97:
Drak,

That 3 to 4 inch swarth the NAM is depicting is interesting. That should get Ike's attention for sure.

Also, Drak how do you see the upper air dynamics of this system. Earlier, the models didn't want to "close off" an upper Low, instead shearing it out.

If this GOM Low deepens more than currently depicted by the models, I am inclined to believe the upper dynamics would also be stronger as well. Should this happen, it would pull more moisture into the region, hence the possiblities of more snow in the watch areas.


I'm not buying the NAM solution completely right now. I still see 1-3 inches for those aforementioned areas. If the 850hpa low deepened there would be more dynamic cooling and uplift to yield average snow to liquid ratios (10:1) The GFS is showing more progression and at 500mb more amplification rather than deamplification as the system moves eastward. The low on the GFS 00z and NAM 00z is deeper and with a good mid level dynamics is generating greater accumulations.
A minor one Matt....Link
Quoting ElConando:


Really? Sounds interesting! I've only seen one snow flurry in my life so it would be great to see another one.


Only one??? How can you be sure? Did you chase it? LOL J?K :)
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
A minor one Matt....Link


thanks!

I looked it up after I read that,

I felt one back in April 2008 that was in southern Illinois, I think it was a 5.2
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
572...sometimes you have to click it twice

thanks
Quoting Geoffrey:

I do have an opinion on GW, but really feel that my first day should be spent otherwise ;-)
582. xcool



I have a new blog entry if anyone cares to visit.

Great weather discussion today, btw, so I beg of anyone that wishes to comment to keep it off of this board.

Please let this flow.
Nigh Nigh all..
Quoting SNOWARMER:
New blogger here ! Nice to be on this blog. I have no formal training in weather sciencel, but have always been interested. I live in coastal Texas south of Houston, and evacuated for IKE. I am a geologist. HI EVERYONE !

welcome aboard
happy sleding everyone,have a good night
Any ideas on how much snow Baton Rouge will get, if any?
588. P451
Quoting MississippiBoy:
old man sounding like a young kid over something as small as a little snow falling out of the sky,i betcha the people on the east coast would give us all we wanted if they could give it to us.


Nah, I'll keep my snow. I think this is fantastic. About every 6-7 years my part of NJ gets this type of winter. I must admit, this is way more than I ever recall any winter giving us. To have 3 storms total 70 inches is insane (28-18-24). (dec 19 - feb 6 - feb 10)



GFS-Loop

Hmm i wonder If i will get any accumulations or not.. if not its still going b nasty tho.. Everyone be careful and have sum fun.. I believe i will get sum.. should know better by tomorrow!!
590. P451
NAM:



GFS:


P451 - used to be in your neck of the woods. West Milford in HS and moved here from Bloomingdale.

Don't miss the snow one bit.
Quoting P451:
NAM:



GFS:




So u or anyone else thinks the Nam is givin to much totals for snow depth?

Winter Weather Advisory
Statement as of 3:45 PM CST on February 10, 2010
... Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 3 am Thursday to 6 am CSTFriday...
The National Weather Service in Fort Worth has issued a Winter Weather Advisory for snow...which is in effect from 3 am Thursday
to 6 am CST Friday.

A strong upper level storm system will approach North Texas by early Thursday morning bringing a mixture of rain and snow to the region. Areas of light rain possibly mixed with some light sleet are expected to begin mainly after midnight tonight primarily south of the Interstate 20 corridor. Temperatures tonight are expected to fall to near freezing across all of North Texas.

On Thursday... widespread precipitation is expected to overspread all of North Texas and indications are that it will be cold enough for mainly snow to fall generally north of Goldthwaite to Waco to Palestine line. Farther south... a rain and snow mix is anticipated. Widespread accumulations of 1 to 3 inches of heavy wet snow can be expected with isolated amounts approaching 4 inches in some areas. It appears that the heaviest of the snow will fall in a swath from near Comanche to Stephenville to Fort Worth to Dallas and farther east into East Texas during the day Thursday. The precipitation will begin to taper off on Thursday evening from west to east.

Impacts to Road travel on Thursday should be fairly minimal as ground temperatures will remain slightly above freezing and the snow on roads should remain slushy. More significant impacts may come Thursday night into early Friday morning... as slushy snowfall freezes during the overnight hours on roads and bridges. Motorists traveling through North Texas on Thursday and especially early Friday should monitor this developing weather situation closely.

It should be stressed that this forecast is highly dependent on low level temperatures. If conditions are colder than anticipated then portions of the advisory area could be upgraded to a Winter Storm Warning later tonight.

A Winter Weather Advisory means that periods of winter precipitation may cause travel difficulties. Be prepared for slippery roads and plan on some travel delays.

Quoting winter123:
Meanwhile, in upstate new york we have not had over 1 inch on the ground since mid december! (Almost everything we have gotten have been from strong clippers that enduce lake effect) There may be some record low snow amounts in places like Albany, NY. It's just like all the moisture and cold are both 100 miles south of usual, this year. The Big cities in the northeast usually are right on the rain line, but instead they are 50-100 miles north of it on every storm.



Yep i live in central ny and we have had very few storms that brought us snow. We had one huge storm bring us almost 2" of rain which is unusual up here in late jan. After that we have had nothing for snow other then the few lake effect that has brought us little snow. Every storm so far is south of us and this last storm only got me 3" of snow. So yeah my region right now is way under its snowfall for the year. Syracuse is right on but they get alot of lake effect.
595. xcool
DYLAN give mmy image credit plz
Well thats just great.... I'm up here in Kentucky with as much as 8" of snow, and will be going back to Mobile on Friday and see that I will run right back into more snow....


Taco :0)
I cannot believe DC just got another 15 inches.

The following are unofficial observations taken during the past 29 hours for the storm that has been affecting our region. Appreciation is extended to Highway departments... cooperative observers... Skywarn spotters and media for these reports. This summary is also available on our
home Page at weather.Gov/Baltimore
********************storm total snowfall********************
... District of Columbia...
1 S Chevy Chase vill 15.5 930 PM 2/10
American University 14.0 630 PM 2/10

One of my friends in DC says she's worried about her low-pitch porch roof handling the weight of the ice plus the snow.
Quoting mikester:


Yep i live in central ny and we have had very few storms that brought us snow. We had one huge storm bring us almost 2" of rain which is unusual up here in late jan. After that we have had nothing for snow other then the few lake effect that has brought us little snow. Every storm so far is south of us and this last storm only got me 3" of snow. So yeah my region right now is way under its snowfall for the year. Syracuse is right on but they get alot of lake effect.
yeah grt lakes region in a snow drought for sure very little if any be a big problem as winter comes to an end and it stays the same could mean a long very dry summer after the spring rains that will dry off fast as ground will lack from winter run off so its got good points and bad but with 39 days of official winter season left it better change soon the heat of the sun is fast approaching as sun travels north in the western sky
Yeah and not looking good for us either. Most models out for the next week show very little action this far north. Not a good sign.
Here is the next 7 days for me:
Overnight: Scattered snow showers. Cloudy, with a low around 18. Northwest wind around 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Thursday: Scattered snow showers. Cloudy, with a high near 27. Northwest wind between 11 and 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

Thursday Night: Scattered snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 14. West wind around 11 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

Friday: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 25. West wind around 11 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Friday Night: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 12. West wind around 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Saturday: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 25. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Saturday Night: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 14. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Sunday: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 24. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Sunday Night: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 12. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Presidents' Day: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 25. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Monday Night: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 12. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Tuesday: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 26. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Tuesday Night: Scattered flurries. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 14.

Wednesday: Scattered flurries. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 27.

So you can see very little snow in the forecast for us. Anything under 50% means little to no snow for us.
Quoting taco2me61:
Well thats just great.... I'm up here in Kentucky with as much as 8" of snow, and will be going back to Mobile on Friday and see that I will run right back into more snow....


Taco :0)
ya but this is wet won't last long be gone before noon the next day
i gone BRB gonna go update my blog morn model runs takes about ten minutes
yep models are being updated.. so we shall c whats up..
Quoting Chicklit:
I cannot believe DC just got another 15 inches.

The following are unofficial observations taken during the past 29 hours for the storm that has been affecting our region. Appreciation is extended to Highway departments... cooperative observers... Skywarn spotters and media for these reports. This summary is also available on our
home Page at weather.Gov/Baltimore
********************storm total snowfall********************
... District of Columbia...
1 S Chevy Chase vill 15.5 930 PM 2/10
American University 14.0 630 PM 2/10

One of my friends in DC says she's worried about her low-pitch porch roof handling the weight of the ice plus the snow.


This is my daughter's first winter up there. Think she's getting cabin fever already. Her oldest son hasn't been to school for a almost a week now and they are already closed for the rest of the week.
605. P451
Quoting Seastep:
P451 - used to be in your neck of the woods. West Milford in HS and moved here from Bloomingdale.

Don't miss the snow one bit.


No kidding.

Well, I'm a storm junkie. So I love the snow. Love shoveling it too. Just a great thing.


Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


So u or anyone else thinks the Nam is givin to much totals for snow depth?


Southern Snows are always very hard to predict but given that the NAM and GFS are in general agreement at least with the size and scope of the precip shield I wouldn't knock them as being overdone.

Still a little early to call the system as 72 hours out is still a long ways out to be making predictions.

Seems like there's a good chance they could verify though.
I sure hope the combination of this Snow Event in DC and Dr. Master's blog being published by the NY Times will begin to sway more congressmen, particularly in the Senate, to get on board about H.R. 2454 American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 also known as the Waxman-Markley Comprehensive Energy Bill which passed in the House of Representatives on June 25, 2009. It currently faces Republican opposition in the Senate. This key bill is important so that the United States can get on board with a world treaty.
And unless you have a PhD in meteorology and studied environmental pollutants for 20 years, then I'm going with the opinion of someone who has. And he says the following:

...Record-breaking snowstorms are not an indication that global warming is not occurring. In fact, we can expect there may be more heavy snowstorms in regions where it is cold enough to snow, due to the extra moisture global warming has added to the atmosphere--an extra 4% since 1970. Snow is not the same as cold, and we have to look at global temperatures, not snowfall, to evaluate whether global warming is occurring. Heavy snow can act to bring down global temperatures, as occurred in December 2009, when the Northern Hemisphere experienced its second greatest snow extent on record (only 1985 saw greater December snow cover since reliable snow records began in 1967). Global average land temperatures, as a result, were just 31st warmest on record, even though global ocean temperatures were the 2nd warmest on record. It will be interesting to see what global temperatures did in January, when the statistics are released next week. The global temperature of the lower atmosphere as measured by satellites was the warmest on record in January, and by a considerable margin. I'll discuss this finding in more detail once the blizzard is over.
Goodnight.


Looks like dc is in for another winter storm again next week. Pretty soon they will have more snow then the rockies.
I only got into it when I moved down here in June 2004.

LOL. Kinda like pdan's daughter in reverse.
Quoting P451:


No kidding.

Well, I'm a storm junkie. So I love the snow. Love shoveling it too. Just a great thing.




Southern Snows are always very hard to predict but given that the NAM and GFS are in general agreement at least with the size and scope of the precip shield I wouldn't knock them as being overdone.

Still a little early to call the system as 72 hours out is still a long ways out to be making predictions.

Seems like there's a good chance they could verify though.


Ok kinda figure it would be.. since we dont c this to often.. should be interesting.. cant wait to snap sum photos..
Goodnight.
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


Hey JG, I sent you a WU mail a few minutes ago, any question, you now have my contact info, feel free to use it!
Quoting Bordonaro:


Hey JG, I sent you a WU mail a few minutes ago, any question, you now have my contact info, feel free to use it!


Thanks Bob! will look at it in moment.. how are u doing?
Quoting Chicklit:

Winter Weather Advisory
Statement as of 3:45 PM CST on February 10, 2010
... Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 3 am Thursday to 6 am CSTFriday...
The National Weather Service in Fort Worth has issued a Winter Weather Advisory for snow...which is in effect from 3 am Thursday
to 6 am CST Friday.

A strong upper level storm system will approach North Texas by early Thursday morning bringing a mixture of rain and snow to the region. Areas of light rain possibly mixed with some light sleet are expected to begin mainly after midnight tonight primarily south of the Interstate 20 corridor. Temperatures tonight are expected to fall to near freezing across all of North Texas.

On Thursday... widespread precipitation is expected to overspread all of North Texas and indications are that it will be cold enough for mainly snow to fall generally north of Goldthwaite to Waco to Palestine line. Farther south... a rain and snow mix is anticipated. Widespread accumulations of 1 to 3 inches of heavy wet snow can be expected with isolated amounts approaching 4 inches in some areas. It appears that the heaviest of the snow will fall in a swath from near Comanche to Stephenville to Fort Worth to Dallas and farther east into East Texas during the day Thursday. The precipitation will begin to taper off on Thursday evening from west to east.

Impacts to Road travel on Thursday should be fairly minimal as ground temperatures will remain slightly above freezing and the snow on roads should remain slushy. More significant impacts may come Thursday night into early Friday morning... as slushy snowfall freezes during the overnight hours on roads and bridges. Motorists traveling through North Texas on Thursday and especially early Friday should monitor this developing weather situation closely.

It should be stressed that this forecast is highly dependent on low level temperatures. If conditions are colder than anticipated then portions of the advisory area could be upgraded to a Winter Storm Warning later tonight.

A Winter Weather Advisory means that periods of winter precipitation may cause travel difficulties. Be prepared for slippery roads and plan on some travel delays.



Well, it is time for another Southern Plains/Deep South and FL Panhandle Snow/Sleet potpourri, for Th 2-11 through Sa 2-13-10.
here is latest GOM/GFS/MRF run

613. Oh, getting ready for about 2-4" of wet, heavy snow, the kind that basically sticks to everything after awhile, except boiling hot water, here in the Dallas-Ft Worth, TX area.

It's supposed to start after the 2-3AM CST on Th 2-11 timeframe and get heavier throughout the day and end around Midnight early on Fr 2-12-10. We are gonna get it good this time!
College Station is borderline on the event. HGX isn't very enthusiastic about it, but we'll just have to wait and see...
Quoting Bordonaro:
613. Oh, getting ready for about 2-4" of wet, heavy snow, the kind that basically sticks to everything after awhile, except boiling hot water, here in the Dallas-Ft Worth, TX area.

It's supposed to start after the 2-3AM CST on Th 2-11 timeframe and get heavier throughout the day and end around Midnight early on Fr 2-12-10. We are gonna get it good this time!


I sure hope so.. i guess i need to get my jacket out again.. lol
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


I sure hope so.. i guess i need to get my jacket out again.. lol

00Z GFS 850MB temps, for Th 2-11-10 around Noon CST, looks like we gotta a few inches of wet, heavy snow!! We had some light sleet about 9:40PM CST tonight here in Arlington, TX.

620. xcool






Deep South and Southeast, here is your NEXT weather maker. God I want spring NOW!!


Reply to 606

My daughter asked the question at a Focus The Nation local on January 31 2008, "What is your carbon footprint and what are you doing about it"?

While I didn't have the same credibility with the "emporer has no clothes" question from a 10 year old...

Well, reduced it by 80%. 55% home electricity. You know what added to it? Going solar... the turkey backup is so inefficient that solar has actually ADDED to my family's carbon footprint. Yup. And seriously reduced the families net cash flow.

Don't get me wrong, insulation, windows, ductwork (a real biggy and that was DIY on the belly in insulation in the attic), metal roof with reflective coating, and outdoor cooking here in the south (other reasons to do this but the payout would be quicker than a working as advertised solar system!) hybrid SUV (35.3 MPG last time I checked) all GREAT INVESTMENTS.

606, don't ask what government can do, what are you doing?

NPR had an excellent series on how the Waxman Markey bill subsidized COAL.
Fort Worth's and Shreveport's graphics don't line up...



Hmmm, flurries perhaps

Quoting Bordonaro:
Deep South and Southeast, here is your NEXT weather maker. God I want spring NOW!!




Hey Bob.. How would i get that type map for my area? or where to go? just wondering, Thanks!
Quoting 1900hurricane:
Fort Worth's and Shreveport's graphics don't line up...





No, they don't because there is colder air in tne mid and lower levels of the atmosphere over N LA, N MS, N AL, into GA and SC. The emphasis or bigger push of colder air this time has been E of the Mississippi River!
Naw, heavy snows in the Washington-Philadelphia corridor? Could such a thing possibly happen?

628. xcool


slidell la .70458 zip code
625. If the NWS office in Tallahassee, FL posts a picture graphic, which as of now they have not, you can right click on the picture, go down and click on properties, and copy the URL and post it on the WU blog :0)!
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Naw, heavy snows in the Washington-Philadelphia corridor? Could such a thing possibly happen?



Lol not a chance ;)
Tornadodude, yes, it is possible the Mid Atlantic region may get slammed, AGAIN! Shoot, they have already had between 55-75" of snow, what's another 6-12"??
Quoting Bordonaro:
625. If the NWS office in Tallahassee, FL posts a picture graphic, which as of now they have not, you can right click on the picture, go down and click on properties, and copy the URL and post it on the WU blog :0)!

Thanks!
Quoting Bordonaro:


No, they don't because there is colder air in tne mid and lower levels of the atmosphere over N LA, N MS, N AL, into GA and SC. The emphasis or bigger push of colder air this time has been E of the Mississippi River!

Naw, that wasn't the point I was trying to make. There is no continuity between the snow amounts between the two CWAs. The axis of the heaviest snow is in different locations and aren't in agreement with each other. Aka, at least one of them is going to be wrong.
HeavySnow lives not too far from Dulles Airport, I believe, and he has had almost 80" of snow this season. I've been joshing with him about getting his dream season of 100"---and he just may get it.
Quoting Bordonaro:
Tornadodude, yes, it is possible the Mid Atlantic region may get slammed, AGAIN! Shoot, they have already had between 55-75" of snow, what's another 6-12"??


I know lol I was being sarcastic ;)
I'd like the models to be wrong, have the 850 layer about 3C colder on GA coast and about .5 QPF on Friday night. Yeap, that would be nice.
It's going to be a close one...


Forecast precipitation, 00Z NAM @ 30 hours.


Sounding Forecast for College Station, 00Z NAM @ 30 hours.
640. xcool
hey matt
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Naw, that wasn't the point I was trying to make. There is no continuity between the snow amounts between the two CWAs. The axis of the heaviest snow is in different locations and aren't in agreement with each other. Aka, at least one of them is going to be wrong.


AHH, grasshopper! Remember, the atmosphere is a fluid, it is dynamic and constantly changing. It is entirely possible that the both forecasts are correct. As the storm gets better organized and taps into deeper Gulf moisture, expect heavier snows the further east you go!!
Quoting Bordonaro:


AHH, grasshopper! Remember, the atmosphere is a fluid, it is dynamic and constantly changing. It is entirely possible that the both forecasts are correct. As the storm gets better organized and taps into deeper Gulf moisture, expect heavier snows the further east you go!!

Still looks fishy to me. Some areas under the 1-2 inch category in the Fort Worth graphic are in the 4-6 inch category in the Shreveport graphic.
Quoting xcool:
hey matt


hey Scott, how you doing?
Hey Matt :)
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Hey Matt :)


Hey, how are you?

whats up Matt..
649. P451
Good lord. A plow got stuck in front of my house. You can see him trying to dig out with a shovel. When your plow guy needs to dig himself out it's not good. You can see my neighbor tearing stuff up in his SUV trying to cram himself into his driveway.

http://tinypic.com/r/og9kwn/6


Now the plow guy just finally gives up. Gets unstuck and just backs down the street.

LOL!

http://tinypic.com/r/2a0autf/6
650. xcool
i'm do very good justin take care of my son .
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:
whats up Matt..


hey man, oh just planning to build a snow fort on campus tomorrow lol you?
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Hey Matt :)


hey, how you doing?
Quoting xcool:
i'm do very good justin take care of my son .


sounds good
654. P451
Quoting 1900hurricane:
Fort Worth's and Shreveport's graphics don't line up...




Using different models apparently.

I'm good--have the noon to 8 shift tomorrow but heading to bed anyway, looking to see the latest snow totals on iwin.
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
I'm good--have the noon to 8 shift tomorrow but heading to bed anyway, looking to see the latest snow totals on iwin.


oh sounds entertaining, yeah same here, wonder if you'll get any snow :)
PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
100 AM EST THU FEB 11 2010

...PRELIMINARY ALL-TIME SEASONAL SNOWFALL RECORDS SET AT THE
THREE MAJOR CLIMATE SITES IN THE BALTIMORE-WASHINGTON AREA...

WITH THE 10.8 INCH TWO-DAY SNOWFALL TOTAL MEASURED AT RONALD REAGAN
WASHINGTON NATIONAL AIRPORT...THE SEASONAL SNOWFALL TOTAL IN
WASHINGTON DC STANDS AT 55.9 INCHES. THIS WOULD BREAK THE PREVIOUS
ALL-TIME SEASONAL SNOWFALL RECORD FOR WASHINGTON DC OF 54.4 INCHES
SET IN THE WINTER OF 1898-99. OFFICIAL SNOWFALL RECORDS FOR
WASHINGTON DC DATE BACK 126 YEARS TO 1884.

WITH THE 19.5 INCH TWO-DAY SNOWFALL TOTAL MEASURED AT
BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON INTERNATIONAL THURGOOD MARSHALL AIRPORT...THE
SEASONAL SNOWFALL TOTAL IN BALTIMORE STANDS AT 79.9 INCHES. THIS
WOULD BREAK THE PREVIOUS ALL-TIME SEASONAL SNOWFALL RECORD FOR
BALTIMORE OF 62.5 INCHES SET IN THE WINTER OF 1995-96. OFFICIAL
SNOWFALL RECORDS FOR BALTIMORE DATE BACK 118 YEARS TO 1893.


FINALLY...AS OF TUESDAY...THIS YEARS SEASONAL SNOWFALL TOTAL AT
DULLES INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT STOOD AT 63.5 INCHES. THIS WOULD BREAK
THE PREVIOUS SEASONAL SNOWFALL RECORD OF 61.9 INCHES SET IN 1995-96.
THE TWO-DAY SNOWFALL TOTAL AT DULLES IS 9.3 INCHES...WHICH WOULD MAKE
THIS YEARS SEASONAL SNOWFALL TOTAL 75.0 INCHES. OFFICIAL SNOWFALL
RECORDS FOR DULLES DATE BACK 48 YEARS TO 1962.


AS WITH ANY MAJOR CLIMATE RECORD ACHIEVEMENT...THESE PRELIMINARY
RECORDS WILL BE QUALITY CONTROLLED BY NOAA`S NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA
CENTER OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.



Wait. 63.5" plus 9.3" = 72.8" at Dulles. Some quality control is in order.
Quoting P451:
Good lord. A plow got stuck in front of my house. You can see him trying to dig out with a shovel. When your plow guy needs to dig himself out it's not good. You can see my neighbor tearing stuff up in his SUV trying to cram himself into his driveway.

http://tinypic.com/r/og9kwn/6


Now the plow guy just finally gives up. Gets unstuck and just backs down the street.

LOL!

http://tinypic.com/r/2a0autf/6

wow lol
Quoting tornadodude:


hey man, oh just planning to build a snow fort on campus tomorrow lol you?


Um probably clean and probably get sum of my snow gear down .. haha
FutureCast

Tell me if ya'll like this Interactive Radar or no..
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


Um probably clean and probably get sum of my snow gear down .. haha


haha sounds good, yeah my friends and i are going to build a huge snowfort on campus tomorrow xD
alright, im off to bed, have a great one everyone (:
Quoting tornadodude:


haha sounds good, yeah my friends and i are going to build a huge snowfort on campus tomorrow xD


Sweet! and ur goin to throw snowballs at ppl or no?
Quoting tornadodude:
alright, im off to bed, have a great one everyone (:


Alright.. have a goodnight!
Oh. They made an error, looks like Dulles got 11.5" in 2 days, not 9.3"

STATION: WASHINGTON DULLES DC
MONTH: FEBRUARY
YEAR: 2010
LATITUDE: 38 57 N
LONGITUDE: 77 27 W

TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND
================================================================================
1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
12Z AVG MX 2MIN
DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR
================================================================================

1 38 6 22 -10 43 0 0.00 0.0 2 3.8 14 290 M M 5 17 290
2 40 15 28 -4 37 0 0.28 4.0 1 2.1 9 180 M M 9 1 12 190
3 40 27 34 1 31 0 0.02 T 4 5.2 16 300 M M 9 128 20 310
4 40 27 34 1 31 0 0.00 0.0 2 4.7 13 320 M M 7 17 320
5 35 30 33 0 32 0 0.99 14.9 1 6.0 26 50 M M 10 12 35 40
6 32 10 21 -12 44 0 0.61 17.5 18 10.6 23 360 M M 8 1289 31 30
7 31 7 19 -14 46 0 0.00 0.0 21 7.8 15 310 M M 3 21 320
8 32 13 23 -10 42 0 0.00 0.0 20 7.4 18 310 M M 1 23 300
9 35 10 23 -10 42 0 0.22 2.2 19 2.0 9 130 M M 8 1 13 110
10 30 20 25 -9 40 0 0.15 9.3 26 19.3 37 290 M M 10 1269 47 300


Ok sounding experts, does this give me a chance of snow or not?

Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


Sweet! and ur goin to throw snowballs at ppl or no?


of course ;)

Quoting FLPandhandleJG:


Alright.. have a goodnight!


thanks! later!
Quoting Chicklit:
I sure hope the combination of this Snow Event in DC and Dr. Master's blog being published by the NY Times will begin to sway more congressmen, particularly in the Senate, to get on board about H.R. 2454 American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 also known as the Waxman-Markley Comprehensive Energy Bill which passed in the House of Representatives on June 25, 2009. It currently faces Republican opposition in the Senate. This key bill is important so that the United States can get on board with a world treaty.
And unless you have a PhD in meteorology and studied environmental pollutants for 20 years, then I'm going with the opinion of someone who has. And he says the following:

...Record-breaking snowstorms are not an indication that global warming is not occurring. In fact, we can expect there may be more heavy snowstorms in regions where it is cold enough to snow, due to the extra moisture global warming has added to the atmosphere--an extra 4% since 1970. Snow is not the same as cold, and we have to look at global temperatures, not snowfall, to evaluate whether global warming is occurring. Heavy snow can act to bring down global temperatures, as occurred in December 2009, when the Northern Hemisphere experienced its second greatest snow extent on record (only 1985 saw greater December snow cover since reliable snow records began in 1967). Global average land temperatures, as a result, were just 31st warmest on record, even though global ocean temperatures were the 2nd warmest on record. It will be interesting to see what global temperatures did in January, when the statistics are released next week. The global temperature of the lower atmosphere as measured by satellites was the warmest on record in January, and by a considerable margin. I'll discuss this finding in more detail once the blizzard is over.



The problem with this bill is not whether or not Global warming is a reality. Beucase the globe is warming. But, Scientists like my self and the climatologists should not be writing economic policy, just like the government should not be dictating scientific knowledge.

This system is going to send money and jobs overseas, leaving our economy in bad shape. With the current problems that are going on, this bill should not even be considered. Another problem is that this bill wont help greenhouse emissions at all. A large company that uses lots of carbon will pay the money to the little guy that uses less. Everyone will continue to produce the same amounts of carbon, and the fees will be passed on to the consumer. This is going to translate into huge fees on energy, plastics, manufacturing, drugs, steel.

I also feel that the other big carbon producers like China are not going to do this. They will get in on the carbon trading game and profit on carbon futures. Sending money to them. Companies that cannot afford this will shut down losing jobs, the demand being absorbed by china and other countries, mexico for instance.

This is not the way to get emissions down. This is only going to come with R & D. IF companies are forced to spend money on carbon credits, they will not spend it on basic and applied research.

The consumer has the power to demand new goods. The government can give more funding to energy research. There are ways to make energy that we are not using right now, and this is going to be the key to stopping the production of carbon.

The only thing that this bill does is make several people in goldman sachs and abroad a lot of money.


This bill is going to drive up costs for energy by huge amounts. it is a fundamental law of economics. No CEO is going to take a hit on their bottom line when their taxes go up. Only two possibilites may happen.
One - The board fires several workers to make up for the cost.
Two - Costs are passed to the consumer.

For non energy producing firms, there is a third possibility which is to send their work force overseas.

This is a terrible Idea and will do absolutely nothing to help any global warming crisis. I must stress that I am not either denying or confimring AGW. I am just saying this bill is stupid and will pretty much screw our country while a select few, and countries like China and Mexico profit.


I think they need to update this map.. Im sure they will since it is 13hours old..lol
It's 2 hours old 11:24 p.m. So don't wait all night! Just sayin' :)
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
It's 2 hours old 11:24 p.m. So don't wait all night! Just sayin' :)


well its from an article that was posted yesterday at 12:46pm on the weather.com.. but they could of updated it, must of not of seen it on the graphic.. ;) but yeah im not going to wait.
Area forecast discussion...aviation update
National Weather Service Mobile Alabama
1140 PM CST Wednesday Feb 10 2010


Update...evening forecast looks to be on track. No adjustments for
the overnight expected. Will update the Winter Storm Watch just
before midnight...but no changes will be made at this time. Evening
model run data still coming in...and from what we have seen thus far
still indicates that significant snowfall accumulations will be
possible from late Thursday night into much of the day on Friday.
00z NAM buffer soundings for kmob and kgzh indicate heavy snowfall
possible by around 17z Friday...with even the kpns sounding
indicating a rain/snow mix changing to all snow at times around late
morning Friday. For now have the significant snow accumulations over
our interior zones...but we will have to monitor this developing
weather situation closely. Snowfall accumulations of two to four
inches are possible across the northern half of the watch area with
totals of one to three inches possible further south. There is still
some uncertainty regarding the forecast track of the surface
low...so stay tuned. The overnight shift will likely make further
adjustments to the forecast...and a Winter Storm Warning or Winter
Weather Advisory will likely be required for at least some of the
watch area.

673. xcool


674. IKE
I notice The Weather Channel now includes rain and snow on Friday for here in the inland Florida panhandle.

Shows a high here in Defuniak Springs on Friday of 39.

I think it's actually going to happen.
Senate Bill Aims For 10 Million Rooftop Solar Systems
Legislation introduced in the US Senate yesterday would encourage the installation of 10 million solar power systems and 200,000 solar water heaters on the rooftops of homes and businesses over the next decade.

The Ten Million Solar Roofs and Ten Million Gallons of Solar Hot Water Act was introduced by Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), chairman of the Senate’s green jobs subcommittee, along with nine cosponsors.

A similar bill was introduced in the US House by Representative Steve Cohen of Tennessee.

It would authorize rebates and other incentives to cover up to half the cost of the solar power and heating systems.
http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/19706

China draws up plans for national renewable energy center
China plans to build a national renewable energy center to further support development of the industry, an energy official said yesterday.

The center will be responsible for policy-making, key project and program management, market and industrial operations, database and information platform establishment and international exchange program coordination, Han Wenke, director general of Energy Research Institute under the National Development and Reform Commission, said yesterday.

The establishment of the center is still in the preliminary planning stages, Han said at the launch of the Sino-Danish Renewable Energy Development Program.

The Danish government will invest 100 million Danish krone (130 million yuan) in the program, which is slated to last until 2013.

The combination of Denmark’s sector experience and China’s strong economic position offer a good starting point for the program.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2010-02/10/content_9456628.htm

Q: What do public support for clean energy and global temperatures have in common?
A: They both keep going up despite the anti-science, pro-polluter echo chamber.
http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/10/polls-public-support-for-clean-energy-and-global-temperatures /



Private sector begging Congress for leadership on bipartisan climate and clean energy jobs bill
Companies will continue punting on major infrastructure investments and the jobs they create as long as Congress dawdles

Businesses leaders are rallying around bipartisan climate action. One reason is that the cloud of uncertainty hovering over clean energy legislation is holding up billions of dollars of private investment that could be creating jobs and spurring technological innovation today.

Peter Darbee, CEO of Pacific Gas and Electric (one of the country’s biggest gas and electric utilities), explained in an op-ed yesterday that as companies wait to see what Congress will do, they are holding off on putting needed capital into infrastructure, manufacturing, and R&D facilities —investments that would amount to another (privately funded) stimulus package:
http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/09/private-sector-begging-congress-for-leadership-on-clean-energ y/
Quoting IKE:
I notice The Weather Channel now includes rain and snow on Friday for here in the inland Florida panhandle.

Shows a high here in Defuniak Springs on Friday of 39.

I think it's actually going to happen.

What's your take on the latest model runs, IKE? Still seems like the trend towards the south is edging further and further...
679. IKE
Quoting quakeman55:

What's your take on the latest model runs, IKE? Still seems like the trend towards the south is edging further and further...


It did on the 6Z NAM. About the same on the 6Z GFS.

Where do you live?
Quoting IKE:


It did on the 6Z NAM. About the same on the 6Z GFS.

Where do you live?

I'm in Niceville. I may not get AS much as you, but I'm thinking I should still get at least some light accumulations. Maybe even more...who knows...
682. IKE
Quoting quakeman55:

I'm in Niceville. I may not get AS much as you, but I'm thinking I should still get at least some light accumulations. Maybe even more...who knows...


I'm about 4 miles NE of DFS...up on 331...Liberty area.

I hope you get some. It's in your forecast. Your forecast hasn't updated yet.
683. IKE
Just north of me about 15 miles....updated....

...A WINTER STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND
PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST GEORGIA FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY
FRIDAY EVENING...


...A WINTER STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH
EARLY FRIDAY EVENING...

A DEVELOPING AREA OF LOW PRESSURE NEAR THE TEXAS COAST WILL MOVE
EASTWARD ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO THROUGH
FRIDAY AFTERNOON. AS THIS LOW APPROACHES THE REGION LATE TONIGHT...
PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO DEVELOP ACROSS SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND
THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE. DUE TO A COLD AIR MASS THAT WILL BE IN
PLACE...THE PRECIPITATION WILL FALL IN THE FORM OF LIGHT RAIN AND
SNOW. BASED ON THE LATEST MODEL FORECASTS...SNOW WILL BE THE MOST
LIKELY FORM OF PRECIPITATION IN THE WATCH AREA EARLY FRIDAY
MORNING...AND PEAK IN INTENSITY AROUND MIDDAY FRIDAY. THE THREAT
FOR SNOW WILL THEN END FRIDAY EVENING AS THE LOW MOVES AWAY FROM
THE AREA.
AT THIS TIME...TOTAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF ONE TO THREE INCHES
WILL BE POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT THE WATCH AREA. FURTHER TO THE NORTH
AND WEST ACROSS SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS UP TO
FOUR INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE...WITH THE HIGHEST ACCUMULATIONS ON
GRASSY AREAS AND ELEVATED SURFACES.
A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SNOW
ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS THE REGION. TRAVEL MAY BECOME AFFECTED...
ESPECIALLY ON ELEVATED SURFACES LIKE BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES. ALL
INTERESTS ARE URGED TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS...AND LISTEN
FOR POSSIBLE WARNINGS.
Quoting IKE:
Just north of me about 15 miles....updated....

...A WINTER STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND
PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST GEORGIA FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY
FRIDAY EVENING...


...A WINTER STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH
EARLY FRIDAY EVENING...

A DEVELOPING AREA OF LOW PRESSURE NEAR THE TEXAS COAST WILL MOVE
EASTWARD ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO THROUGH
FRIDAY AFTERNOON. AS THIS LOW APPROACHES THE REGION LATE TONIGHT...
PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO DEVELOP ACROSS SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND
THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE. DUE TO A COLD AIR MASS THAT WILL BE IN
PLACE...THE PRECIPITATION WILL FALL IN THE FORM OF LIGHT RAIN AND
SNOW. BASED ON THE LATEST MODEL FORECASTS...SNOW WILL BE THE MOST
LIKELY FORM OF PRECIPITATION IN THE WATCH AREA EARLY FRIDAY
MORNING...AND PEAK IN INTENSITY AROUND MIDDAY FRIDAY. THE THREAT
FOR SNOW WILL THEN END FRIDAY EVENING AS THE LOW MOVES AWAY FROM
THE AREA.
AT THIS TIME...TOTAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF ONE TO THREE INCHES
WILL BE POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT THE WATCH AREA. FURTHER TO THE NORTH
AND WEST ACROSS SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS UP TO
FOUR INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE...WITH THE HIGHEST ACCUMULATIONS ON
GRASSY AREAS AND ELEVATED SURFACES.
A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SNOW
ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS THE REGION. TRAVEL MAY BECOME AFFECTED...
ESPECIALLY ON ELEVATED SURFACES LIKE BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES. ALL
INTERESTS ARE URGED TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS...AND LISTEN
FOR POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

I think it's only a matter of time before they extend that further south to include FL...can't see why not, at the very least on the inland areas.
685. IKE
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL
344 AM CST THU FEB 11 2010

.DISCUSSION...

LET`S GET RIGHT TO THE SNOW EVENT. I HAD BEEN TROUBLED FOR SOME
TIME AFTER WATCHING THIS EVENT UNFOLD FOR ABOUT 7 STRAIGHT
DAYS...THAT THE MODELS WOULD NEVER CONVERGE ON A FINAL SOLUTION
FOR THIS EVENT. HOWEVER...AS WE NEAR THE GO TIME...THEY FINALLY
ARE SHOWING THE CONSISTENCY THAT WAS LONGED FOR...THE GFS AS
EXPECTED FINALLY DECIDED OVER THE PAST 3 OR SO RUNS TO BRING THE
LOW CENTER MORE IN LINE WITH THE EURO...A FURTHER NORTH SOLUTION.
THIS REALLY HAS ADDED THE FINAL PIECE TO THE PUZZLE AND MADE MY
CONFIDENCE IN THIS FORECAST MUCH BETTER THAN IN PREVIOUS SHIFTS.
BOTH THE GFS AND EURO ARE SHOWING CONSISTENT QPF OUTPUT FOR THIS
EVENT...WHICH DOES ALIGN WITH THE EURO AND CANADIAN ENSEMBLES. THE
HIGHEST SNOW OUTPUT IS STILL LOOKING TO BE JUST SOUTH OF OUR CWA
AND ESPECIALLY AS YOU GO SOUTHWEST INTO MS AND LA...THEY WILL
LIKELY BE THE BIG SNOW WINNERS BY THE TIME WE ARE ALL SAID AND
DONE.
FOCUSING CLOSER TO HOME...EVERYBODY LOOKS TO BE INTO AT
LEAST SOME MINOR ACCUMULATIONS. AS WITH PREVIOUS THINKING THE
FURTHER SOUTH...THE BETTER THE TOTALS.
ON A LINE FROM ABOUT
LIVINGSTON OVER TO MGM/TOI WILL SEE THE BEST
ACCUMULATIONS...POSSIBLY AS MUCH AS 4 INCHES. THERE WILL BE A SLOW
DECREASE NORTHWARD AND AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE BHM METRO WE WILL
SEE MORE ON THE ORDER OF 1 TO 1.5 INCHES EVENT TOTAL. THE EVENT SHOULD
START PROBABLY CLOSER TO 3AM IN THE SOUTHWEST AND QUICKLY SHIFT
NORTH AND EAST AS WE GO THROUGH THE DAY ON FRIDAY. THIS WILL BE A
FAST MOVING STORM...SO FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES SHOULD BE DONE
IN THE EAST BY 6 PM OR SO. TEMPERATURES DON`T APPEAR TO BE A
PROBLEM THIS GO AROUND AS THE 850 FREEZING LINE IS DOWN ALONG THE
GULF COAST...AND MOST LEVEL THICKNESSES ARE SHOWING A BELOW
FREEZING SATURATION THROUGHOUT THE EVENT.
AMOUNTS ARE STILL GIVING
ME A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE AS I`LL EXPLAIN NEXT.

AS MENTIONED...CONFIDENCE REMAINS VERY HIGH IN THE FORECAST AT
THIS JUNCTURE...BUT I WOULD THROW A FEW SUGGESTIONS INTO THE
THINKING. SINCE THE GFS CONTINUES TO TREND FURTHER NORTH...I HAVE
BEEN IMPRESSED WATCHING THE GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AS MOST HAVE HELD
STRONG IN KEEPING THE SURFACE LOW FURTHER NORTH. I WILL SAY THAT
ALL BUT ONE ENSEMBLE SOLUTION SHOWS A DEEPER UPPER LOW AND A
LITTLE BETTER PHASE WITH THE SURFACE SYSTEM. THIS HAS ALLOWED FOR
A SLIGHTLY DEEPER GULF SURFACE LOW...AND HENCE MORE WINTER PRECIP
FOR MUCH OF CENTRAL ALABAMA. IN FACT SOME OF THE TOTALS WERE
SUGGESTING 2 PLUS INCHES NORTH OF BHM AND A 5 TO 6 INCH RANGE IN
THE MGM AREA. SOME ENSEMBLES HAD EVEN MORE. THIS WOULD ALIGN THEM
WITH THE CONSISTENT...YET...NORTHERN OUTLIER CANADIAN GEM MODEL.
HAVEN`T GONE AS FAR AS TO INCLUDE SUCH TOTALS IN THE
FORECAST...NOR WOULD I HAVING GROWN UP IN THE SOUTHEAST...BUT I DO
THINK IT IS NOTEWORTHY. THIS WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY OVER
THE NEXT FEW RUNS...ESPECIALLY IF THE GFS CONTINUES TO TREND EVEN
FURTHER NORTH THAN EXPECTED. THAT COULD QUICKLY TURN A MINOR TO
MODERATE SNOW EVENT INTO A HEAVY MORE CRIPPLING SNOW. AGAIN...WE
JUST NEED TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT POSSIBILITY...EVEN AS WE GET
INTO THE MESOSCALE DETAILS OF THE EVENT...WHICH ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO
EVEN GUESS AT THIS JUNCTURE. IT IS PROBABLY A BIT ON THE WISHFUL
THINKING SIDE FOR US SNOW LOVERS...BUT THIS KIND OF SETUP IS
ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT FOR A LARGER SCALE SOUTHEASTERN
EVENT.

FOR NOW...WILL KEEP THE WATCH IN PLACE...BUT LATER THIS MORNING OR
AFTERNOON EXPECT UPGRADES TO A WARNING AND ADVISORIES AS WE GET INTO THE 24
HOUR WINDOW.

A BIG THANKS TO JAN...LIX...MOB...TAE...MEG...HUN...AND HPC FOR
OUTSTANDING COORDINATION THIS MORNING.

17/KLAWS



Looking farther and farther to the south...this would seem to favor accumulating snow all the way to the coast.
687. IKE
Quoting quakeman55:


Looking farther and farther to the south...this would seem to favor accumulating snow all the way to the coast.


Yeah...that's the frame I noticed had trended further south.
Quoting IKE:


Yeah...that's the frame I noticed had trended further south.

Wouldn't that blue line be a rough estimate for the rain/snow line?
689. IKE
Quoting quakeman55:

Wouldn't that blue line be a rough estimate for the rain/snow line?


There's more involved it in then just that. It's beyond my knowledge. 850 mb's isn't at the surface.

Maybe the experts can extrapolate.
690. IKE
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
511 AM EST THU FEB 11 2010

FLZ007>019-026>029-034-GAZ125-127>131-143>148-155>161-112100-
INLAND WALTON-COASTAL WALTON-HOLMES-WASHINGTON-JACKSON-BAY-
CALHOUN-GULF-FRANKLIN-GADSDEN-LEON-JEFFERSON-MADISON-LIBERTY-
WAKULLA-TAYLOR-LAFAYETTE-DIXIE-DOUGHERTY-WORTH-TURNER-TIFT-
BEN HILL-IRWIN-MILLER-BAKER-MITCHELL-COLQUITT-COOK-BERRIEN-
SEMINOLE-DECATUR-GRADY-THOMAS-BROOKS-LOWNDES-LANIER-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...DE FUNIAK SPRINGS...INWOOD...HUDSON...
BONIFAY...CRYSTAL LAKE...CHIPLEY...FIVE POINTS...MARIANNA...
GRACEVILLE...MALONE...SNEADS...PANAMA CITY...CALLAWAY...
LYNN HAVEN...UPPER GRAND LAGOON...BLOUNTSTOWN...WHITE CITY...
PORT ST. JOE...WEWAHITCHKA...APALACHICOLA...CARRABELLE...QUINCY...
CHATTAHOOCHEE...TALLAHASSEE...SPRING HILL...MONTICELLO...
MADISON...GREENVILLE...SWEETWATER...SOPCHOPPY...ST. MARKS...
PERRY...MIDWAY...MAYO...CROSS CITY...ALBANY...SYLVESTER...
ASHBURN...TIFTON...FITZGERALD...OCILLA...COLQUITT...NEWTON...
CAMILLA...PELHAM...MOULTRIE...ADEL...SPARKS...NASHVILLE...
DONALSONVILLE...BAINBRIDGE...CAIRO...THOMASVILLE...QUITMAN...
VALDOSTA...LAKELAND
511 AM EST THU FEB 11 2010 /411 AM CST THU FEB 11 2010/

...POTENTIAL FOR RAIN AND SNOW FRIDAY ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE
REGION...

A DEVELOPING AREA OF LOW PRESSURE NEAR THE TEXAS GULF COAST
WILL MOVE EASTWARD THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON. AS THIS LOW
APPROACHES THE REGION TONIGHT...PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO
DEVELOP ACROSS THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE...FLORIDA BIG BEND AND
SOUTH CENTRAL GEORGIA. THE RAIN WILL OCCASIONALLY MIX WITH
SNOW OVER THE INLAND FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND PORTIONS OF
SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL GEORGIA...ESPECIALLY FRIDAY
MORNING AND AFTERNOON.

DUE TO WARM AIR AT THE SURFACE...LITTLE OR NO SNOW ACCUMULATION
IS EXPECTED. ANY ACCUMULATION THAT OCCURS WILL BE CONFINED TO
GRASSY OR ELEVATED SURFACES. COASTAL AREAS OF THE FLORIDA
PANHANDLE AND MOST OF THE FLORIDA BIG BEND WILL EXPERIENCE RAIN
WITH THIS LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM.

RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO MONITOR THEIR NOAA WEATHER RADIOS OR
LOCAL MEDIA FOR LATER STATEMENTS ON THIS DEVELOPING WINTER
WEATHER EVENT.

$$

JAMSKI
691. IKE
For Mobile,AL....WTH?

Friday
Colder...snow. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Total snow accumulation 3 to 6 inches. Highs in the mid 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph becoming 5 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 80 percent.
Quoting IKE:
For Mobile,AL....WTH?

Friday
Colder...snow. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Total snow accumulation 3 to 6 inches. Highs in the mid 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph becoming 5 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 80 percent.

Wow...that'll be enough to shut down that city for sure. Hell, if they happen to get that much, I could only imagine places further east in the Panhandle would see similar amounts...
Here's mine for 32578:

Friday
Colder...snow. Light accumulations possible. Highs in the upper 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.

So at least it changed from "rain mixing with snow" to just plain "snow," and dropping the temps from the lower 40's to upper 30's. Yep, this one'll be a doozie...
Quoting IKE:
For Mobile,AL....WTH?

Friday
Colder...snow. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Total snow accumulation 3 to 6 inches. Highs in the mid 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph becoming 5 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of snow 80 percent.


LOL I'm saying the same thing here in Hattiesburg, Ike! Check this out...

Today: A 30 percent chance of snow after 3pm. Cloudy, with a high near 45. Calm wind becoming east northeast around 5 mph. Little or no snow accumulation expected.

Tonight: Snow, mainly after 9pm. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 31. Calm wind becoming north northeast between 5 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

Friday: Snow, mainly before noon. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 37. North northwest wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

695. IKE
Quoting quakeman55:

Wow...that'll be enough to shut down that city for sure. Hell, if they happen to get that much, I could only imagine places further east in the Panhandle would see similar amounts...


I couldn't believe that when I read it. Had to make sure I was on the right city.

Mobile is at 30.7N. Pensacola is at 30.4N. Their forecast...

Friday
Colder...snow. Light accumulations possible. Highs in the upper 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.

I'm just north of 30.7N.
696. IKE
Quoting MississippiWx:


LOL I'm saying the same thing here in Hattiesburg, Ike! Check this out...

Today: A 30 percent chance of snow after 3pm. Cloudy, with a high near 45. Calm wind becoming east northeast around 5 mph. Little or no snow accumulation expected.

Tonight: Snow, mainly after 9pm. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 31. Calm wind becoming north northeast between 5 and 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

Friday: Snow, mainly before noon. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 37. North northwest wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.



4-8 inches! Wow!
Quoting IKE:


I couldn't believe that when I read it. Had to make sure I was on the right city.

Mobile is at 30.7N. Pensacola is at 30.4N. Their forecast...

Friday
Colder...snow. Light accumulations possible. Highs in the upper 30s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.

I'm just north of 30.7N.

Take a look at Crestview, just 20 or so miles to your west...

Friday
Colder...snow. Snow accumulation of 2 to 3 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. Highs in the mid 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
441 AM CST THU FEB 11 2010

...SIGNIFICANT HEAVY SNOW EVENT EXPECTED TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY...


LAZ015-016-023>026-MSZ043-047>066-072>074-111845-
/O.UPG.KJAN.WS.A.0002.100212T0300Z-100212T2000Z/
/O.NEW.KJAN.WS.W.0002.100212T0000Z-100212T2000Z/
RICHLAND-MADISON LA-FRANKLIN LA-CATAHOULA-TENSAS-CONCORDIA-
MADISON MS-WARREN-HINDS-RANKIN-SCOTT-NEWTON-LAUDERDALE-CLAIBORNE-
COPIAH-SIMPSON-SMITH-JASPER-CLARKE-JEFFERSON-ADAMS-FRANKLIN MS-
LINCOLN-LAWRENCE-JEFFERSON DAVIS-COVINGTON-JONES-MARION-LAMAR-
FORREST-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...RAYVILLE...DELHI...TALLULAH...
WINNSBORO...JONESVILLE...HARRISONBURG...NEWELLTON...ST. JOSEPH...
WATERPROOF...VIDALIA...FERRIDAY...WEST FERRIDAY...RIDGELAND...
MADISON...CANTON...VICKSBURG...JACKSON...PEARL...BRANDON...
RICHLAND...FOREST...MORTON...NEWTON...UNION...DECATUR...
CONEHATTA...MERIDIAN...PORT GIBSON...CRYSTAL SPRINGS...
HAZLEHURST...WESSON...MAGEE...MENDENHALL...TAYLORSVILLE...
RALEIGH...BAY SPRINGS...HEIDELBERG...QUITMAN...STONEWALL...
SHUBUTA...FAYETTE...NATCHEZ...BUDE...ROXIE...MEADVILLE...
BROOKHAVEN...MONTICELLO...NEW HEBRON...PRENTISS...BASSFIELD...
COLLINS...MOUNT OLIVE...LAUREL...COLUMBIA...WEST HATTIESBURG...
LUMBERTON...PURVIS...HATTIESBURG
441 AM CST THU FEB 11 2010

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM
CST FRIDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSON HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING
TO 2 PM CST FRIDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

SNOW IS EXPECTED TO OVERSPREAD THE REGION LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO
TONIGHT. SNOWFALL RATES WILL STEADILY INCREASE DURING THE EVENING AND
WILL BECOME HEAVY OVERNIGHT. THE SNOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF
FROM WEST TO EAST FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON.

TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FOR THE AREA SOUTH OF INTERSTATE
20...ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE HIGHWAY 84 AND 98 CORRIDORS...WILL RANGE
FROM 5 TO 8 INCHES WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE.
ALONG
INTERSTATE 20...INCLUDING THE VICKSBURG...JACKSON AND MERIDIAN
AREAS...TOTALS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES ARE CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED. JUST NORTH
OF INTERSTATE 20...AMOUNTS WILL RANGE FROM 2 TO 4 INCHES. THE
HEAVIEST SNOW LOOKS TO OCCUR BETWEEN 10 PM AND 10 AM BEFORE TAPERING
OFF.

THESE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS COULD RESULT IN DANGEROUS TRAVEL
CONDITIONS. THE HEAVY...WET NATURE OF THE SNOW WILL HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO DOWN TREE LIMBS AND POWER LINES...PARTICULARLY SOUTH
OF INTERSTATE 20 WHERE HEAVIER AMOUNTS SHOULD OCCUR. EVERYONE IN
THE WATCH AREA SHOULD TAKE THE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO PREPARE
FOR MAJOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FOR THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY.
gppd morning 45 cold and windy looks like a sunny day e cen florida
700. IKE
Quoting quakeman55:

Take a look at Crestview, just 20 or so miles to your west...

Friday
Colder...snow. Snow accumulation of 2 to 3 inches. Total snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. Highs in the mid 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 80 percent.


Interesting....Tallahassee office only calling for minor accumulations on grassy surfaces here.

Somebody is going to have to tweak their forecast.

Crestview is at 30.9N.
701. IKE
Quoting MississippiWx:
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON MS
441 AM CST THU FEB 11 2010

...SIGNIFICANT HEAVY SNOW EVENT EXPECTED TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY...


LAZ015-016-023>026-MSZ043-047>066-072>074-111845-
/O.UPG.KJAN.WS.A.0002.100212T0300Z-100212T2000Z/
/O.NEW.KJAN.WS.W.0002.100212T0000Z-100212T2000Z/
RICHLAND-MADISON LA-FRANKLIN LA-CATAHOULA-TENSAS-CONCORDIA-
MADISON MS-WARREN-HINDS-RANKIN-SCOTT-NEWTON-LAUDERDALE-CLAIBORNE-
COPIAH-SIMPSON-SMITH-JASPER-CLARKE-JEFFERSON-ADAMS-FRANKLIN MS-
LINCOLN-LAWRENCE-JEFFERSON DAVIS-COVINGTON-JONES-MARION-LAMAR-
FORREST-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...RAYVILLE...DELHI...TALLULAH...
WINNSBORO...JONESVILLE...HARRISONBURG...NEWELLTON...ST. JOSEPH...
WATERPROOF...VIDALIA...FERRIDAY...WEST FERRIDAY...RIDGELAND...
MADISON...CANTON...VICKSBURG...JACKSON...PEARL...BRANDON...
RICHLAND...FOREST...MORTON...NEWTON...UNION...DECATUR...
CONEHATTA...MERIDIAN...PORT GIBSON...CRYSTAL SPRINGS...
HAZLEHURST...WESSON...MAGEE...MENDENHALL...TAYLORSVILLE...
RALEIGH...BAY SPRINGS...HEIDELBERG...QUITMAN...STONEWALL...
SHUBUTA...FAYETTE...NATCHEZ...BUDE...ROXIE...MEADVILLE...
BROOKHAVEN...MONTICELLO...NEW HEBRON...PRENTISS...BASSFIELD...
COLLINS...MOUNT OLIVE...LAUREL...COLUMBIA...WEST HATTIESBURG...
LUMBERTON...PURVIS...HATTIESBURG
441 AM CST THU FEB 11 2010

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM
CST FRIDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSON HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING
TO 2 PM CST FRIDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

SNOW IS EXPECTED TO OVERSPREAD THE REGION LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO
TONIGHT. SNOWFALL RATES WILL STEADILY INCREASE DURING THE EVENING AND
WILL BECOME HEAVY OVERNIGHT. THE SNOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF
FROM WEST TO EAST FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON.

TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FOR THE AREA SOUTH OF INTERSTATE
20...ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE HIGHWAY 84 AND 98 CORRIDORS...WILL RANGE
FROM 5 TO 8 INCHES WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE.
ALONG
INTERSTATE 20...INCLUDING THE VICKSBURG...JACKSON AND MERIDIAN
AREAS...TOTALS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES ARE CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED. JUST NORTH
OF INTERSTATE 20...AMOUNTS WILL RANGE FROM 2 TO 4 INCHES. THE
HEAVIEST SNOW LOOKS TO OCCUR BETWEEN 10 PM AND 10 AM BEFORE TAPERING
OFF.

THESE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS COULD RESULT IN DANGEROUS TRAVEL
CONDITIONS. THE HEAVY...WET NATURE OF THE SNOW WILL HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO DOWN TREE LIMBS AND POWER LINES...PARTICULARLY SOUTH
OF INTERSTATE 20 WHERE HEAVIER AMOUNTS SHOULD OCCUR. EVERYONE IN
THE WATCH AREA SHOULD TAKE THE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO PREPARE
FOR MAJOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FOR THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY.


LOL...higher amounts possible. Is this the lower SE USA?
702. IKE
Quoting IKE:


LOL...higher amounts possible. Is this the lower SE USA?

This year has been a strange one so far. It seems like so many things we once never thought possible are coming to pass. Let's see...two straight weeks of below-freezing nights...huge snow events one after another in DC, shutting down the Fed Gov't, Saints winning the Super Bowl, 3-6" of snow in Mobile...I tell you, the fun just never stops! lol
Quoting IKE:


LOL...higher amounts possible. Is this the lower SE USA?


LOL I don't know Ike, but it's pretty exciting! I hope it all pans out.
705. IKE
Quoting quakeman55:

This year has been a strange one so far. It seems like so many things we once never thought possible are coming to pass. Let's see...two straight weeks of below-freezing nights...huge snow events one after another in DC, shutting down the Fed Gov't, Saints winning the Super Bowl, 3-6" of snow in Mobile...I tell you, the fun just never stops! lol


LOL.


Quoting MississippiWx:


LOL I don't know Ike, but it's pretty exciting! I hope it all pans out.


I sense some doubt in you. Same here. Just hard to believe.
wow weather channel keeps goin back and forth with rain and snow.. I sure hope it does snow in the panhandle.. would 3" or more ;)
707. IKE
...MAJOR WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE AREA TODAY INTO TOMORROW...

.A MAJOR WINTER STORM HAS BEGUN AFFECTING THE AREA THIS
MORNING...WITH WIDESPREAD RAIN MOVING ACROSS SOUTHEAST TEXAS AND
LOUISIANA. THE RAIN MAY BE MIXED WITH SLEET AT TIMES DURING THE
DAY. BY THURSDAY EVENING...THE RAIN AND SLEET MIXTURE IS EXPECTED
TO CHANGE TO ALL SNOW ACROSS CENTRAL LOUISIANA...WHILE A WINTRY
MIX WILL CONTINUE ACROSS THE LAKES REGION OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS.
AREAS NORTH OF THE HIGHWAY 190 CORRIDOR ARE EXPECTED TO SEE SNOW
ACCUMULATIONS RANGING FROM A TRACE TO 2 INCHES...WHILE MORE
SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES WITH LOCALLY
HIGHER AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY ACROSS CENTRAL LOUISIANA. SNOW MAY BE
HEAVY AT TIMES LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AS THE MAIN UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM
MOVES ACROSS THE REGION...WITH SNOWFALL RATES UP TO 1 INCH PER
HOUR POSSIBLE. SNOW WILL FIRST STICK TO VEGETATION AND ELEVATED
SURFACES THURSDAY EVENING BEFORE ACCUMULATING ON SURFACE ROADWAYS
THURSDAY NIGHT...WITH POTENTIAL MAJOR IMPACTS TO AREA TREES AND
POWER LINES DUE TO THE HEAVY WET NATURE OF THE SNOW. ALL WINTER
PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO COME TO AN END ON FRIDAY MORNING.

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 9 AM
CST FRIDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING FOR CENTRAL LOUISIANA...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6
PM THIS EVENING TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS
NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* TIMING: A MIX OF RAIN AND SLEET DURING THE DAY ON THURSDAY WILL
CHANGEOVER TO ALL SNOW BY THURSDAY EVENING AND PERSIST THROUGH
FRIDAY MORNING.

* MAIN IMPACT: SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 2 TO 4 INCHES...WITH LOCALLY
HIGHER AMOUNTS.

* OTHER IMPACTS: SNOW MAY BE HEAVY AT TIMES THURSDAY NIGHT INTO
EARLY FRIDAY MORNING...WITH SNOWFALL RATES UP TO 1 INCH PER HOUR
POSSIBLE. THE HEAVY WET NATURE OF THE SNOW MAY CAUSE SIGNIFICANT
DAMAGE TO TREES AND POWER LINES ACROSS CENTRAL LOUISIANA.
709. unf97
Good morning everyone.

Ike, it certainly appears that the potential is there over in your area of a decent snowfall event. I was discussing this with Drak last night. I wake up this morning and now Mobile NWS office is saying at least 2 inch accumulation in parts of interior FL pandhandle into SW and S. Central Alabama. In those areas, they could see up to 4 inches potentially.

Ike, the snow looks to be coming late tonight into Friday. Get ready!
Quoting unf97:
Good morning everyone.

Ike, it certainly appears that the potential is there over in your area of a decent snowfall event. I was discussing this with Drak last night. I wake up this morning and now Mobile NWS office is saying at least 2 inch accumulation in parts of interior FL pandhandle into SW and S. Central Alabama. In those areas, they could see up to 4 inches potentially.

Ike, the snow looks to be coming late tonight into Friday. Get ready!


That would b awesome.. and i will be ready.. ;)
711. IKE
Vipor model on channel 7 in Panama City showing 2.5 inches in Crestview...around 2 in Marianna....and snow all the way to the coast in Okaloosa county.

Another model they showed was similar.
712. IKE
Quoting unf97:
Good morning everyone.

Ike, it certainly appears that the potential is there over in your area of a decent snowfall event. I was discussing this with Drak last night. I wake up this morning and now Mobile NWS office is saying at least 2 inch accumulation in parts of interior FL pandhandle into SW and S. Central Alabama. In those areas, they could see up to 4 inches potentially.

Ike, the snow looks to be coming late tonight into Friday. Get ready!


I'll take a few pictures and post them on here.
I believe there is goin to be alot of moisture and some places could c a little more snow than expected.. since it is hard to predict down here.. just a thought
Good Morning Ike and all, So Ike today is your day with the snow huh?
716. IKE
Winter Storm Watch
Alert:

...SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TONIGHT
AND FRIDAY...


.AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP IN THE NORTHWEST GULF OF
MEXICO AND TRACK EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE NORTH GULF TONIGHT AND
FRIDAY. WITH COLD AIR IN PLACE...SLEET AND SNOW ARE EXPECTED OVER
AREAS MAINLY ALONG AND NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 10 AND 12
CORRIDOR. A BRIEF MIX OR CHANGE TO SLEET AND SNOW WILL ALSO BE
POSSIBLE JUST SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 10 AND 12 CORRIDOR.

...WINTER STORM WATCH NOW IN EFFECT FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH
EARLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON...

A WINTER STORM WATCH IS NOW IN EFFECT FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH
EARLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON FOR AREAS ALONG THE INTERSTATE 12 AND 10
CORRIDOR...EXTENDING FROM METROPOLITAN BATON ROUGE TO THE
NORTHSHORE OF LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN...TO THE MISSISSIPPI GULF COAST.
FROZEN PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN AS EARLY AS THIS AFTERNOON...BUT
IS MORE LIKELY DURING THE EVENING ACROSS METROPOLITAN BATON ROUGE
AND ALONG THE INTERSTATE 12 CORRIDOR. A MIX OF RAIN AND SLEET WILL
LIKELY DEVELOP DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING HOURS.
DURING THE EVENING...THE RAIN AND SLEET MIX WILL LIKELY CHANGE TO
A MIX OF SLEET AND SNOW AS PRECIPITATION SPREADS EAST ACROSS THE
MISSISSIPPI GULF COAST. IT WILL BECOME MOSTLY SNOW WELL AFTER
MIDNIGHT AND INTO FRIDAY MORNING.
SLEET AND SNOW MAY BECOME MODERATE TO HEAVY AT TIMES...ESPECIALLY
AFTER 9 PM. THIS COULD RESULT IN A VERY HAZARDOUS SITUATION AS
SLEET AND SNOW ACCUMULATE ON THE ROADS. ACCUMULATIONS OF SLEET
AND SNOW MAY REACH 2 TO 3 INCHES BY NOON ON FRIDAY WITH LOCALLY
HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE.
SNOW IS EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF FROM WEST TO EAST DURING THE MID AND
LATE MORNING HOURS FRIDAY AND SHOULD END EARLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON.


St. Tammany
Iberville
West Baton Rouge
East Baton Rouge
Ascension
Livingston
Quoting severstorm:
Good Morning Ike and all, So Ike today is your day with the snow huh?


Good Morning to you too!
718. IKE
Quoting severstorm:
Good Morning Ike and all, So Ike today is your day with the snow huh?


Tomorrow.
"Tomorrow", he says.

Not "maybe tomorrow", or "maybe a chance of flurries"....nope. Just "tomorrow."

Dang-blasted self-assured SnowHog.
720. unf97
Yeah, Ike, you and all of the panhandle bloggers should have fun with this impending event.

The models keep trending colder and the rain/snow line keeps sinking southward as well. Basically, the rain/snow line is right along Interstate 10 it appears for this event.
Quoting unf97:
Yeah, Ike, you and all of the panhandle bloggers should have fun with this impending event.

The models keep trending colder and the rain/snow line keeps sinking southward as well. Basically, the rain/snow line is right along Interstate 10 it appears for this event.


I hope that rain/snow line keeps goin southward a bit more.. ;)
Heck that means today is thursday darn i'm a day ahead well i hope you get the snow and we need pics my friend
hey panhandlejg? you wanted some links, see if this helps. I don't use it but you might like it.

Link
724. IKE
Quoting aquak9:
"Tomorrow", he says.

Not "maybe tomorrow", or "maybe a chance of flurries"....nope. Just "tomorrow."

Dang-blasted self-assured SnowHog.


LOL! I thought about putting IF in there, but it almost seems like a sure bet.


Winter Storm Warning
Alert:

...SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TONIGHT
AND FRIDAY...


.AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP IN THE NORTHWEST GULF OF
MEXICO AND TRACK EAST NORTHEAST ACROSS THE NORTH GULF TONIGHT AND
FRIDAY. WITH COLD AIR IN PLACE...SLEET AND SNOW ARE EXPECTED OVER
AREAS MAINLY ALONG AND NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 10 AND 12
CORRIDOR. A BRIEF MIX OR CHANGE TO SLEET AND SNOW WILL ALSO BE
POSSIBLE JUST SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 10 AND 12 CORRIDOR.

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM
CST FRIDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING FOR MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6
PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM CST FRIDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO
LONGER IN EFFECT. THE WARNING AREA IS GENERALLY NORTH OF A LINE
FROM WEST OF NEW ROADS AT THE ATCHAFALAYA RIVER...TO AMITE...TO
PICAYUNE.
A MIXTURE OF LIGHT RAIN...LIGHT SLEET...AND LIGHT SNOW WILL
DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON ACROSS SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI AND UPPER
FLORIDA PARISHES OF EAST CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA. THE MIX
OF PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE TO MOSTLY SNOW AFTER
SUNSET...ALTHOUGH SOME SLEET COULD MIX IN FROM TIME TO TIME.
ONCE THE SNOW BEGINS...IT IS EXPECTED TO PICK UP IN INTENSITY
DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS TONIGHT AND CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST
FRIDAY MORNING BEFORE TAPERING OFF AROUND MIDDAY FRIDAY. MODERATE
TO HEAVY SNOW IS EXPECTED TO DROP VISIBILITIES BELOW A QUARTER OF
A MILE AT TIMES CREATING VERY HAZARDOUS DRIVING CONDITIONS. TOTAL
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL RANGE FROM 4 TO 7 INCHES ACROSS SOUTHWEST
MISSISSIPPI...TO 2 TO 5 INCHES ACROSS THE UPPER FLORIDA PARISHES
OF LOUISIANA.
THE SNOW WILL ALSO BE A WET SNOW. THE WEIGHT OF THE SNOW COULD
DOWN SOME TREE BRANCHES AND POWER LINES AS IT ACCUMULATES.


Pointe Coupee
West Feliciana
East Feliciana
St. Helena
Tangipahoa
Washington
Quoting aquak9:
hey panhandlejg? you wanted some links, see if this helps. I don't use it but you might like it.

Link


Thank you Aqua.. appreciate it!
"I vaguely remember 1979, when I was 3, when there was really tall snow, but nothing like this," said Kate Jelen, a Washington-area resident.

The severity of the recent storms has highlighted two of the Washington area's long-standing problems - its inability to handle bad winter weather because of relatively small snow removal budgets and an electrical grid easily overwhelmed when overhead power lines are toppled by branches and high winds.

"I think everybody got a little overwhelmed," said James Rich, whose home in Kensington, Md. was without power from last Friday until Tuesday. Rich and his wife, Joan, spent the ensuing days wearing heavy coats and cooking eggs and soup over their wood-burning fireplace.

"Initially it was a bit of an adventure. We thought, we're getting the hang of this, it's like camp," Rich said. "You try to be industrious. But it gets old really fast."
http://www.montrealgazette.com/Washington+feels+winter+wrath+again/2549087/story.html
727. unf97
Good morning aquak!
728. IKE
Winter Storm Watch
Alert:

for....Choctaw
Washington
Clarke
Wilcox
Monroe
Conecuh
Butler
Crenshaw
Escambia
Covington
Upper Mobile
Upper Baldwin
Lower Mobile
Lower Baldwin

...SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE LATE THURSDAY
NIGHT AND FRIDAY FOR INTERIOR PORTIONS OF THE AREA...

.THE COMBINATION OF A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING EASTWARD
ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO...DEEP MOISTURE...AND COLD AIR
POURING INTO OUR REGION FROM THE NORTH...SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL
ACCUMULATIONS ARE POSSIBLE LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. RAIN
WILL BEGIN TO CHANGE OVER TO WET SNOW AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT OVER
THE INTERIOR COUNTIES...ESPECIALLY NORTH OF A WIGGINS-ATMORE-
ANDALUSIA LINE. THE WET SNOW LINE WILL MOVE PROGRESSIVELY SOUTHWARD
TOWARD THE COAST ON FRIDAY. SIGNIFICANT TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ARE
POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY OVER THE INTERIOR SECTIONS OF SOUTHEAST
MISSISSIPPI...AND SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...WHERE 4 TO 7
INCHES IS POSSIBLE.
PRECIPITATION WILL QUICKLY TAPER OFF BY FRIDAY
EVENING.

...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH
FRIDAY AFTERNOON...

A WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH
FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO SPREAD INTO SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI AND
SOUTHWEST ALABAMA LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. AS THE
PRECIPITATION MOVES IN...A MIXTURE OF RAIN AND SNOW IS LIKELY
GENERALLY WEST OF INTERSTATE 65 BY MID EVENING...WITH PRECIPITATION
BECOMING ALL SNOW AFTER MIDNIGHT ROUGHLY NORTH OF A WIGGINS-ATMORE-
ANDALUSIA LINE. COLDER AIR WILL CONTINUE TO FILTER INTO THE AREA
DURING THE DAY FRIDAY AS SURFACE LOW PRESSURE TRACKS EASTWARD ACROSS
THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO. THE WET SNOW LINE WILL MOVE PROGRESSIVELY
SOUTHWARD TOWARD THE COAST ON FRIDAY. PRECIPITATION WILL QUICKLY
TAPER OFF BY FRIDAY EVENING.
SIGNIFICANT TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ARE POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY OVER
THE INTERIOR SECTIONS OF SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI...AND SOUTHWEST AND
SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...WHERE 4 TO 7 INCHES IS POSSIBLE. TOTAL
SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF TWO TO FOUR INCHES ARE POSSIBLE FROM THE
MOBILE METRO AREA TO CRESTVIEW FLORIDA...WITH ONE TO TWO INCHES
POSSIBLE FURTHER SOUTH TOWARD THE COAST.
THE SNOW WILL BE WET AND
HEAVY IN NATURE WHICH COULD RESULT IN SOME DOWNED TREE LIMBS AND
POWER LINES.
wow.. thats alot of heavy wet snow there predicting.. I wonder how much we will get.. O man i have doctors appt. at 10am in the morning of friday.. thats goin to be interesting..
730. IKE
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:
wow.. thats alot of heavy wet snow there predicting.. I wonder how much we will get.. O man i have doctors appt. at 10am in the morning.. thats goin to be interesting..


My wife's daughter has one in Pensacola. Pregnant with twins. She may have to reschedule it.
731. unf97
Well, Mobile NWS are now calling for accumulations all the way to the coast. They think 1 to 2 inch accumulations are possible to the coast, verifying the rain/snow line contiually to drop southward.

What an intersting day Friday is shaping up to be potentially.
g'morning unf! had to go get ready for work...

Ike you'd better take plenty of pics. We are gonna be 35º here, with rain. Could it be ANY more miserable?
733. IKE
Super Bowl champs now have a shot tomorrow of seeing some....

Friday
Rain...snow and slight chance of light sleet in the morning...then chance of light rain and snow early in the afternoon. Little or no snow and sleet accumulation. Highs in the mid 40s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.
734. IKE
Quoting aquak9:
g'morning unf! had to go get ready for work...

Ike you'd better take plenty of pics. We are gonna be 35º here, with rain. Could it be ANY more miserable?


I'm sorry. I'll throw you a snowball.
wait a minute, ike, I just re-read your posts. Ya'll are gonna be twin grandparents?? Congrats!!

and, errr...accumulations of two inches or more?? won't that just shut everything down? It's not like ya'll have snow plows or salt, hahaha...
Good Morning from Biloxi......doing the snow dance here, we want to see snow on the beach!

.....they DID say hell would freeze over if the SAINTS won the Super Bowl

morning Ike
737. unf97
Well, Mobile NWS are now calling for accumulations all the way to the coast. They think 1 to 2 inch accumulations are possible to the coast, verifying the rain/snow line continues to drop southward.

What an interesting day Friday is shaping up to be potentially.
Quoting aquak9:
wait a minute, ike, I just re-read your posts. Ya'll are gonna be twin grandparents?? Congrats!!

and, errr...accumulations of two inches or more?? won't that just shut everything down? It's not like ya'll have snow plows or ice, hahaha...

Its goin to be nasty.. its already has alot of moisture and depends how far south or north the L goes.. but we might be getting more than we think we are.. Dallas right now has been reporting snow and already have some accidents already.. Its going to b nice and wett snow.. Get ready everyone and be safe.. o have sum fun too ;)
Ike congrats on being a grandpa!
ya'll have a fun day! I am so jealous....

PEACE!!
741. IKE
Quoting aquak9:
wait a minute, ike, I just re-read your posts. Ya'll are gonna be twin grandparents?? Congrats!!

and, errr...accumulations of two inches or more?? won't that just shut everything down? It's not like ya'll have snow plows or salt, hahaha...


LOL.


Good morning to everyone and thanks.
Quoting aquak9:
ya'll have a fun day! I am so jealous....

PEACE!!

U have a good day at work Aqua..


This what Accuweather thinks.. does anyone agree? I dont totally agree with it..
744. unf97
Congratulations Ike!
Mornin' gang! A lil' nippy here, but supposed to warm. Hard to believe that when the panhandle is having a snow event, we will still be in the 60's.. crazy stuff.

451, thanks for the pictures bro.. very foriegn stuff to a south Florida boy. I spent a couple years in Conn. in the Sub Service, never saw anything even close to what y'all are going through.

Congrats Grandpa Ike!!! little Blessings they are!
Just looking at the radar for the Gulf Coast area.

The "Bastardi Effect" better kick in soon if you guys living down there want to see some snow.

Of course, you could always pile into the car and drive into Alabama to see...90 minute trip...nice small town park for the kids to play in...chicken gizzards and cold beer for lunch...

Okay...I'm down!
The fiercest storm yet in the worst winter in local history howled across the region Wednesday, locking virtually everything in a shroud of new snow that will take days to escape. And there might be more on the way.

As the region tries to right itself after what increasingly looked like a lost week, just digging out from under a foot of fresh snow piled atop two feet of previous snow has left road crews and 5.5 million Washington area inhabitants exhausted. The storm that could arrive Monday seemed a trivial threat after all that, but it could compound the havoc played with virtually every rhythm of daily life.

Thursday's forecast was for bright sunshine and cold temperatures -- manageable conditions for digging out. With most schools and government offices still closed, and public transit largely crippled, residents were advised to stay close to home and make use, yet again, of their snow shovels. Scattered early-morning car accidents were reported on area highways, and Virginia state police spokeswoman Corrine Geller advised motorists to beware of blowing snowdrifts that could cover slick sections of roadway.

"Overnight the strong winds have created good-sized drifts across the Northern Virginia region," Geller said in a news release. "The drifting snow can hide icy patches and motorists need to be cautious."

Local officials sought to have Maryland, Virginia and the District formally declared a disaster area, making the region eligible for federal funds to help already hemorrhaging budgets recoup the untold millions spent on snow removal.

"If there is ever a time for a state of emergency, this is it," said D.C. Council member Kwame R. Brown (D-At Large). "This District is not only facing a crippling snowstorm, but we're facing a crippling budget shortfall and citywide safety issues."

The federal government announced that it would remain closed for a fourth day Thursday. Most local governments and many private offices followed suit. All large area school systems already had given up until Tuesday, fearing for the safety of children forced into the street by unshoveled sidewalks. Utility crews were back at work, this time with fewer outages than the thousands caused by the weekend's heavier, wetter snow.

"Mother Nature has the upper hand right now," said Metro spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein. Only underground Metro service will operate Thursday, and Metrobus and MetroAccess will remain suspended. Montgomery Ride On, Fairfax Connector and MTA commuter buses are canceled Thursday, as are MARC and VRE trains. Amtrak's Northeast service will be limited. The region's three airports told passengers to check with their airlines Thursday before leaving to catch their flights.

As of 2 p.m. Wednesday, the snowfall total for the season in Washington had surpassed the 54.4-inch record set in 1899, and it rose to 55.6 inches by 4 p.m. It was even higher farther from the city, reaching seasonal totals of 72 inches in Baltimore and at Dulles International Airport.

"I never thought I would see a winter like this one in my lifetime," said Samenow, a native of the area. "The climate was colder back in 1899, when that record was set."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/11/AR2010021100995.html?hpid=topnews
748. IKE
From Mobile,AL. discussion....

"LONG TERM [FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY]...COMPLEX LOW PRESSURE/WINTER STORM SYSTEM
IS FORECAST TO TRACK EASTWARD...OVER THE NORTHERN GULF FRIDAY. NORTH
OF THE LOW...THE DEEP LAYER THERMAL PROFILE IS COLD AND MOIST ENOUGH
IN ALL OF THE AVAILABLE WEATHER MODEL GUIDANCE TO BRING ACCUMULATING
SNOWS...NOW...TO MUCH OF THE AREA. WITH MORE AGREEMENT...CONFIDENCE
IS EDGING HIGHER IN THIS. FORECASTERS ARE LEANING CLOSE TO THE ECMWF
MODEL FOR THE TRACK OF THE SURFACE AND LOW LEVEL CYCLONIC
CIRCULATION. THE SURFACE CENTER IS A LITTLE SOUTH THAN WHAT WE WERE
LOOKING AT 24 HOURS AGO...WHICH SUPPORTS A COLDER AIRMASS FRIDAY ALONG
WITH 90 TO 100 PERCENT DEEP LAYER MEAN RELATIVE HUMIDITY ADVANCING
ACROSS THE DEEP SOUTH. FORECASTERS HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO
THE TRACK OF THE 850 MB LOW WHICH WILL BE MOVING EAST
NORTHEAST...OUT OF COASTAL MISSISSIPPI IN THE MORNING TO MOB AROUND
NOON BEFORE LIFTING INTO AND ACROSS SOUTHERN GA FRIDAY EVENING. THE
DEEP LAYER THERMAL PROFILE BECOMES SATURATED...NEAR ISOTHERMAL AND AT
OR JUST BELOW FREEZING EXCEPT RIGHT AT THE SURFACE ON FRIDAY.
NORTHWEST OF THE 850 MB LOW...WE COULD VERY WELL SEE INCREASED
CONVERGENCE AND FORCING...CAUSING BANDS OF SNOW AND BURSTS RESULTING
IN SIGNIFICANT STORM TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS FROM 5 TO POSSIBLY 7 INCHES
FROM WIGGINS MISSISSIPPI TO LUVERNE ALABAMA BEFORE THE STORM LIFTS
AWAY FRIDAY EVENING.
THE LATEST GUIDANCE OF THE LOW TRACK NOW BRINGS
THE SNOWFALL MORE TO THE SOUTHEAST WITH ACCUMULATIONS MAKING IT
NECESSARY TO EXTEND THE WINTER STORM WATCH INTO MOBILE AND BALDWIN
COUNTY AND ACROSS THE INTERIOR ZONES OF THE WESTERN FLORIDA
PANHANDLE.
2 TO 4 INCHES OF SNOWS ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.
THE FALL OF AND ACCUMULATING SNOW FAVORS A COLDER DAYTIME MAXIMUM ON
FRIDAY THAN WHAT IS ADVERTISED IN THE MOS. THUS...WE HAVE UNDERCUT
THESE BY SEVERAL DEGREES.

WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES AND/OR WARNINGS WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED FOR A
PORTION...IF NOT ALL OF THE AREA LATER TODAY. DRIVING CONDITIONS
WILL BECOME HAZARDOUS WITH PATCHES OF BLACK ICE SETTING UP ON BRIDGES
AND OVERPASSES THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT. STAY TUNED TO THE LATEST
FORECASTS AND UPDATES CONCERNING THIS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS...DEEP
SOUTH WINTER STORM.

DUE TO THE UPCOMING STORM...WILL BE BRIEF IN THE DISCUSSION FOR THE
REMAINDER OF EXTENDED. A FAST MOVING CLIPPER TYPE FRONT LOOKS TO BE
MOVING THROUGH THE AREA LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY MORNING. MAY SEE
ANOTHER BOUT OF LIGHT SLEET AND SNOW WITH THIS FEATURE.
DUE TO ITS
FAST SOUTHEAST MOVEMENT...NOT ANTICIPATING MUCH IN THE WAY OF
ACCUMULATION WITH THIS SYSTEM AT THIS TIME. DEEP UPPER TROF SETTING
UP OVER MID ATLANTIC AND SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE POSITIONED OVER THE
PLAINS WILL MAINTAIN A TAP OF CANADIAN AIR INTO THE DEEP SOUTH MONDAY
THROUGH WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. DAYTIME HIGHS AND NIGHTIME LOWS LOOK
TO REMAIN WELL BELOW SEASONAL NORMAL."
749. unf97
Post 743

That map is just a general depiction. Looking at the model runs early this morning, I am inclined to think the mix line shown on that map will be little farther to the south as the event unfolds late tonight into tomorrow.
Quoting CycloneOz:
Just looking at the radar for the Gulf Coast area.

The "Bastardi Effect" better kick in soon if you guys living down there want to see some snow.

Of course, you could always pile into the car and drive into Alabama to see...90 minute trip...nice small town park for the kids to play in...chicken gizzards and cold beer for lunch...

Okay...I'm down!


Hattiesburg is only an hr drive from the Coast, local met says they could get 4 inches of snow

cold beer yes
chicken gizzards no

Hey Oz, you might have to change your "gear" to chase snow storms now LOL
Quoting unf97:
Post 743

That map is just a general depiction. Looking at the model runs early this morning, I am inclined to think the mix line shown on that map will be little farther to the south as the event unfolds late tonight into tomorrow.


Ya i saw the model runs.. i was just showing ya'll what they think.. I agree with ya UNF.. like i said its goin to be interesting day friday.. for sure!
NOAA just changed my forecast to 80% of snow.. it was saying sleet earlier.. and saying possible of an inch..
Quoting gulfcoastdweller:


Hattiesburg is only an hr drive from the Coast, local met says they could get 4 inches of snow

cold beer yes
chicken gizzards no

Hey Oz, you might have to change your "gear" to chase snow storms now LOL


CHICKEN GIZZARDS - YES!
maybe some boiled peanuts, too! :)
Yeah, Grandpa Ike ....Does have a ring to it don't it Congrads Ike!
Quoting gulfcoastdweller:


Hattiesburg is only an hr drive from the Coast...


Remember...90 minutes...drive slowly and make sure you stay well back of other cars...especially if on two-lanes.
Hey Ike, My brother now has 45" on the ground in s c pa york county. They got about 24" yesterday.
757. IKE
Quoting severstorm:
Yeah, Grandpa Ike ....Does have a ring to it don't it Congrads Ike!


LOL.

Quoting severstorm:
Hey Ike, My brother now has 45" on the ground in s c pa york county. They got about 24" yesterday.


Jeez...that's terrible.
758. IKE
NEW BLOG!
Quoting CycloneOz:


Remember...90 minutes...drive slowly and make sure you stay well back of other cars...especially if on two-lanes.



oh I'm not going anywhere. I will be sitting on my porch, waiting to see how many cars hit the giant GEE-TAR at the Hard Rock

and I'll be sure to have the nuts and gizzards on hand when you come to storm chase
Pretty incredible storm here in central New Jersey. Yesterday as the low was deepening off the coast of Delaware, the snow seemed to stop for several hours. But at around noon, a steady snow began to fall with increasing intensity. By 2:00 Pm, the visibility was less than 300 feet. And it remained that way till around 5:00 pm. Several forecasters were calling for high snow ratios. However, with the temperature hovering around 31 degrees, the snow appeared anything but dry. As a result the snow was compact. With about 15 inches on the ground. If it was colder, I could of imagined close to 30 inches here. Dr. Masters was calling for a 970mb low yesterday. Today I read the storm was at 969MB. Great prediction. Wow, if this storm had moved NNE verse east, it would of been very dramatic. However, the pattern seems to be that more storms will come to visit the mid-atlantic. So what one storm does not succeed in doing, the next storm takes up the slack.
We are all truly witnessing a rare event. Enjoy the spectacular beauty but also be mindful of others coping to deal with this.
Even though the mid atlantic states have alot of snow they are being spared in a sense. Most of the time most storms that bring northeast alot of snow bring dc/baltimore rain/freezing rain. Now when the weather breaks they are going to have to watch out for severe flooding down there. God knows they don't need that after all this snow.