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Russia's Pole of Cold hits -70°F: Europe's 2nd coldest reading of all-time

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:48 PM GMT on February 22, 2010

The notorious Russian winter, bane of the armies of Napoleon and Hitler, has been in classic form during the winter of 2010 . Brutal cold has been the rule this winter in the European portion of Russia, and at 9am local time on Friday, February 19, the town of Hoseda-Hard, Russia hit a remarkable -70°F (-56.4°C)--the second coldest temperature ever measured in Europe. Hoseda-Hard is located in extreme northeastern Europe, 90 miles (145 km) south of the Arctic Ocean and about 150 miles (240 km) west of the Ural Mountains and the boundary of Asia. The town lies in a shallow river valley (elevation 84 meters) where cold air tends to pool. The surrounding region is known as Europe's "Pole of Cold". The coldest temperature ever recorded in Europe was an extraordinary -72.6°F (-58.1°C) in the Pole of Cold's Ust'Schugor (64.15°N 57.45°) on December 31, 1978. The nearby city of Pechora, the largest city in the region (population: 50,000), is also well-known for its extreme temperatures. Pechora boasts Europe's third coldest temperature, a -68.8°F (-56.0°C) reading observed on February 9, 1946. It is likely that Hoseda-Hard got a degree or two colder than the remarkable -70°F measured on Friday, since the station only reported temperatures once every three hours. The high temperature Friday in Hoseda-Hard was a not-so-balmy -49°F (-45°C)!


Figure 1. Departure of surface temperature from average for February 19, 2010. Temperatures at Europe's "Pole of Cold" (dark purple colors) were more than 40°F (22°C) below average. The white dot marks the location of Hoseda-Hard, Russia, which recorded a remarkable -70°F (-56.4°C) at 9am local time that day--the second coldest temperature ever measured in Europe. Image credit: NOAA/ESRL.


Figure 2. A monument in Europe's "Pole of Cold" near Hoseda-Hard, Russia, marking the location of the Arctic Circle. Image credit: Mactak.

Exceptional February heat in Africa
I credit weather historian and extreme weather expert Chris Burt, author of Extreme Weather, for pointing out the incredible cold in Russia on Friday. Chris also noted that on Saturday, February 20, the temperature in Birni-N'Konni, Niger hit 112°F (44.3°C). This is just 3°F (1.7°C) below the warmest temperature ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere in February--the 115°F reading from Abeche, Chad (date unknown).

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Reader Comments

UKMET 12Z



After that...

With news of big hurricane season I'm stocking up the storm shelter.
Quoting Skepticall:


I used part of your name because you had commented on SSI's blog about how it was getting colder yet he put the warming begins or something and I used it last night and couldn't really remember your name. Idk if your talking about my post though.


No, I wasn't referring to your post, Skepticall (I didn't see it), but that's very decent of you to "come forward," lol!

Oh, you know what? My husband noticed a dove here was coo-ing its mating call...so maybe there is some hope for spring sometime afterall!
Quoting MississippiBoy2:
With news of big hurricane season I'm stocking up the storm shelter.


I expect to be in Biloxi this year. Just a hunch, so don't panic.

Word of Warning: If I'm in your neighborhood during the summer...RUN!
505. JRRP
Quoting Levi32:


That's one of the reasons I'm not so hot on 2008....but 1998 is a good analogue. This winter's El Nino is the 4th strongest SST-wise and 2nd strongest impact-wise since 1950. Link

The SST pattern in 1998 set up very similar to now, and the resulting hurricane season had 14 storms with a spray directed south and west towards the Caribbean and U.S., which is the fear for this season as well.

i think 1966 1995 and 1998 looks like analog year
Quoting Ossqss:
495,,,, Oz I found a side kick for you, just in case you need help :)






ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
The regional radar for houston it seems to me like all the snow and rain is going to miss houston to the north. Has the snow dodged houston once again?
I remember, back in November and December always wishing for snow, well I definitely have had enough for this year haha

I was down in Evansville on Sunday and it was 61 degrees and sunny, boy did that feel great! Lol

Now I'm back at Purdue, and, you guessed it, it is snowing :P
Taken at 10:40AM CST here at my place in SE Arlington, TX. Pretty moderate snow falling, just enough to leave a dusting!

Quoting CycloneOz:


I expect to be in Biloxi this year. Just a hunch, so don't panic.

Word of Warning: If I'm in your neighborhood during the summer...RUN!


Kind of like the way it used to be if you saw Cantore tied to a palm tree close by...LOL
Quoting tornadodude:
I remember, back in November and December always wishing for snow, well I definitely have had enough for this year haha

I was down in Evansville on Sunday and it was 61 degrees and sunny, boy did that feel great! Lol

Now I'm back at Purdue, and, you guessed it, it is snowing :P


Wishing for summer now are you??? LOL
A million compliments to the GFS model run forecasts on this snow event in TX. The demarcation line for snow is right north of I-20 in North Texas!
Quoting PcolaDan:


Wishing for summer now are you??? LOL


Lol yeah, and spring break is coming soon as well, although I am ready for the severe weather season
Quoting Bordonaro:
A million compliments to the GFS model run forecasts on this snow event in TX. The demarcation line for snow is right north of I-20 in North Texas!


Wheres my snow in Houston? technically North houston.
Quoting Skepticall:


Wheres my snow in Houston? technically North houston.


your winter weather advisory doesnt start until 2, I think
Quoting Skepticall:
The regional radar for houston it seems to me like all the snow and rain is going to miss houston to the north. Has the snow dodged houston once again?

If you check out a longer animation, you can see it is sliding towards the SE slowly. Also, look at the temperature graphs for Austin and Bryan... both have hit their highs for the day, and are stabilizing/dropping with the evaporative cooling effect from the slop coming down.
Quoting tornadodude:


your winter weather advisory doesnt start until 2, I think

Yep, 2p Tue - 6a Wed. The precip wont start in earnest until 5-6pm.
Still a slight warm nose where I am at the moment. As soon as that goes away, the rain should change over here in College Station.

Hello boys and girls. Everyone staying warm?
Quoting jeffs713:

Yep, 2p Tue - 6a Wed. The precip wont start in earnest until 5-6pm.


Thanks for both of the posts.
Quoting tornadodude:


your winter weather advisory doesnt start until 2, I think


Are you still working in Purdue's Met dep't., or weather center?...sorry, I don't remember exactly what it's called...
Hey guys. I came across one of the most amazing videos I have ever seen today and wanted to share it with the fellow bloggers.

Ever heard of a sun dog? Take a look at this!

Link
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


Are you still working in Purdue's Met dep't., or weather center?...sorry, I don't remember exactly what it's called...


nah, I work for my parents now, we have a cafe called "the element cafe"
Quoting Grothar:
Hello boys and girls. Everyone staying warm?


trying, about 30 degrees colder then it was sunday tho :p
Quoting tornadodude:


nah, I work for my parents now, we have a cafe called "the element cafe"


Neat name. Nuclear-powered kitchen, perhaps? ;)
Quoting Grothar:
Hello boys and girls. Everyone staying warm?

Well, it could be worse -- where are you now, btw??

Your Local Weather
For Silver Spring, MD 20901
... More
Live Conditions 12:43 PM
Montgomery Blair HSChange Tracking Station
Temp
39.9°F
Switch to Celsius
12
mph
So Far Today

* Lo: 35°F
* Rain: 0.00"
* Hi: 40°F
* Gust: NNW 16

* Wind Chill: 33°F
* Humidity: 89%
* Dew Point: 37°F
Quoting CycloneOz:


Neat name. Nuclear-powered kitchen, perhaps? ;)

Don't mind that glow coming from the eggs... its there because of how we cook it... ;)
Quoting CycloneOz:


Neat name. Nuclear-powered kitchen, perhaps? ;)


haha not quite :PP
Quoting tornadodude:


Lol yeah, and spring break is coming soon as well, although I am ready for the severe weather season

Me too! Can't wait!
Quoting jeffs713:

Don't mind that glow coming from the eggs... its there because of how we cook it... ;)


who needs microwaves??? haha
Quoting JRRP:

i think 1966 1995 and 1998 looks like analog year


Yup 1966 is in there too. There's a whole package of analogues. I'm working on putting together a blog showing why they are good analogues and why we should be concerned about this hurricane season.
Quoting HurricaneHunterGal:

Me too! Can't wait!


haha yeah, I plan on doing a lot of storm chasing this year
Quoting tornadodude:


nah, I work for my parents now, we have a cafe called "the element cafe"


OH! You've already started working with the family business! Got a website? OH (again), maybe you're designing one? Sure are a lot of people here who are good at that!

You will have a pastrami and corned beef on seeded rye with brown mustard and cole slaw waiting for me, right? Or am I going to have to bring the ingredients from the East Coast??!

Shoot, I wish I'd stop making myself hungry thinking about it...
Quoting jeffs713:

Don't mind that glow coming from the eggs... its there because of how we cook it... ;)


LoL

Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


OH! You've already started working with the family business! Got a website? OH (again), maybe you're designing one? Sure are a lot of people here who are good at that!

You will have a pastrami and corned beef on seeded rye with brown mustard and cole slaw waiting for me, right? Or am I going to have to bring the ingredients from the East Coast??!

Shoot, I wish I'd stop making myself hungry thinking about it...


haha I dont think we serve that, but we do have some really good panini's (:
A band is headed straight for me!!!



And the warm nose is just about gone!!!



Snow should start very soon...!
Quoting Levi32:


Yup 1966 is in there too. There's a whole package of analogues. I'm working on putting together a blog showing why they are good analogues and why we should be concerned about this hurricane season.

I look forward to that blog... I seem to have a talent for sticking my foot in my mouth when I look for analogues.
Quoting 1900hurricane:
A band is headed straight for me!!!



And the warm nose is just about gone!!!



Snow should start very soon...!


Where are you getting that sounding image?
Ossgss -- LOL -- Green Eggs and Ham; Sam I Am!

Dude... panini sounds good, too. Served with "Urge," for only an extra $100 or so...to be split with Grothar? :)
Quoting jeffs713:


Where are you getting that sounding image?

I get it from here. I use the RUC analysis and derive the sounding from that. One of my professors actually showed me this site.
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

Well, it could be worse -- where are you now, btw??

Your Local Weather
For Silver Spring, MD 20901
... More
Live Conditions 12:43 PM
Montgomery Blair HSChange Tracking Station
Temp
39.9°F
Switch to Celsius
12
mph
So Far Today

* Lo: 35°F
* Rain: 0.00"
* Hi: 40°F
* Gust: NNW 16

* Wind Chill: 33°F
* Humidity: 89%
* Dew Point: 37°F


Still in PA, Not too bad here. It could be worse. We could all be in Hoseda-Hard, Russia with all that cold. I am sorry I haven't been on in a few weeks, I actually miss most of you. It is almost like withdrawal when I can't communicate. Funny thing, though. I have been working with a woman who is involved with tropical forecasting. She is of the opinion it "may" be quite an interesting season in the Atlantic. I haven't had too much time to review everything on here, but she offered to share what she could. You know the old, I have a friend who has a friend, who knows somebody!!!!! I do hope everyone has been well.
Quoting CycloneOz:


Neat name. Nuclear-powered kitchen, perhaps? ;)


Oz you have mail at your yahoo account.
Quoting Levi32:


Yup 1966 is in there too. There's a whole package of analogues. I'm working on putting together a blog showing why they are good analogues and why we should be concerned about this hurricane season.


Noticed that this winter thus far is running quite close to the 1963-1964 winter, especially across northern New England, where I live; so, personally, I think 1964 may be a good analog to this hurricane season. BTW, the CPC summer SST forecast is pretty "crazy", above average SST in the main development region of the Atlantic.
LOL, Grothar!!! re: I actually miss most of you.

Yeah, we actually miss most of you, too! (:
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Ossgss -- LOL -- Green Eggs and Ham; Sam I Am!

Dude... panini sounds good, too. Served with "Urge," for only an extra $100 or so...to be split with Grothar? :)


Hey TD, if you need more Urge, I might be going back to Norway and Denmark for a short bit. Let me know if you want more. Your restaurant could be the only distributor of Urge in the US.
Quoting Ossqss:


LoL

Quoting Ossqss:


LoL



LOL!!!!
Quoting StormChaser81:


Oz you have mail at your yahoo account.


Replied...with a resounding YES!
Quoting Grothar:


Hey TD, if you need more Urge, I might be going back to Norway and Denmark for a short bit. Let me know if you want more. Your restaurant could be the only distributor of Urge in the US.



hmmm Lol I still have a couple bottles left, but more might not be a bad idea :P
Quoting tornadodude:


haha I dont think we serve that, but we do have some really good panini's (:


Man, a panini sounds so good right now!
E-YEW! BTW, I need a new vacuum cleaner. What a bunch of overpriced hyped gizmos out there!

The Poisons and Allergens That Make up Household Dust
By JEFFREY KLUGER Jeffrey Kluger 44 mins ago

In part:
The specific dust mix in any household differs according to climate, age of the house and the number of people who live in it - not to mention the occupants' cooking, cleaning and smoking habits. But nearly everywhere, dust consists of some combination of shed bits of human skin, animal fur, decomposing insects, food debris, lint and organic fibers from clothes, bedding and other fabrics, tracked-in soil, soot, particulate matter from smoking and cooking, and, disturbingly, lead, arsenic and even DDT.
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
LOL, Grothar!!! re: I actually miss most of you.

Yeah, we actually miss most of you, too! (:


See, Awake, you actually DO read. Don't let anyone tell you differently. I had to be honest with that statement. Unfortunately, there are those I do not miss. In some cases I am sure the feeling is mutual. But, like the Scarecrow, "I miss you most of all"
Quoting CycloneOz:


Man, a panini sounds so good right now!


agreed! lol

Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
Ossgss -- LOL -- Green Eggs and Ham; Sam I Am!

Dude... panini sounds good, too. Served with "Urge," for only an extra $100 or so...to be split with Grothar? :)


haha we'll see ;)
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
E-YEW! BTW, I need a new vacuum cleaner. What a bunch of overpriced hyped gizmos out there!

The Poisons and Allergens That Make up Household Dust
By JEFFREY KLUGER Jeffrey Kluger 44 mins ago

In part:
The specific dust mix in any household differs according to climate, age of the house and the number of people who live in it - not to mention the occupants' cooking, cleaning and smoking habits. But nearly everywhere, dust consists of some combination of shed bits of human skin, animal fur, decomposing insects, food debris, lint and organic fibers from clothes, bedding and other fabrics, tracked-in soil, soot, particulate matter from smoking and cooking, and, disturbingly, lead, arsenic and even DDT.


Is this guy any relation to Freddy Kluger or is that Kruger!!! LOL
Quoting Grothar:


Is this guy any relation to Freddy Kluger or is that Kruger!!! LOL


By the way he explains dust, I'd say he is Freddy Kruger of the Dust world.

Quoting Grothar:


See, Awake, you actually DO read. Don't let anyone tell you differently. I had to be honest with that statement. Unfortunately, there are those I do not miss. In some cases I am sure the feeling is mutual. But, like the Scarecrow, "I miss you most of all"

And you, dah-link, are most excellent at reading between and betwixt the lines... now you've gone and made us tear up... :(

550 - I purchased the highest rated unit on Consumer reports a few years back. The Eureka " The Boss". Hepa bags and replaceable Hepa exhaust filter leave no smell even with animals. It was around $150+ or so. To pay much more is just putting money in someone's pocket. My neighbor wanted to sell me a Kirby for like $2,000. I said OK, as long as it comes with a person pushing it around cleaning for 5 years :)
Link The same fault that had the earthquke in Hati is shaking us here in Belize today again . I did not feel the first one but ny mom did . The second one was felt more widely .
Quoting Ossqss:
550 - I purchased the highest rated unit on Consumer reports a few years back. The Eureka " The Boss". Hepa bags and replaceable Hepa exhaust filter leave no smell even with animals. It was around $150 or so. To pay much more is just putting money in someone's pocket.[Edit: Absolutely agreed; and the consumer mags and opinions do, too.] My neighbor wanted to sell me a Kirby for like $2,000. I said OK, as long as it comes with a person pushing it around cleaning for 5 years :)


THANK YOU! And we're on the same page. I've been seriously considering a couple Eureka models (my old one is giving up the ghost, although it still runs and cleans). I really like them (the uprights) because they don't tip over when you use the tools. A couple of the old Hoover standby's look okay, too.

557 -- CACKLING OUT LOUD!
Quoting StormChaser81:


By the way he explains dust, I'd say he is Freddy Kruger of the Dust world.



That is why I miss the blog! You are all too fast. Good show Storm. Funny picture. I have to copy this one.
Oz. Call me please!
Quoting belizeit:
Link The same fault that had the earthquke in Hati is shaking us here in Belize today again . I did not feel the first one but ny mom did . The second one was felt more widely .


Oh my. What did you actually do when you felt the second one?
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Oz. Call me please!

Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


Oh my. What did you actually do when you felt the second one?
It was not that strong just a slight shutter of the earth but acording to this map some felt it pretty strong in Guatemala .
If ya never saw a dust mite up close,,, Makes Freddy look friendly :) L8R -- off to the salt mine >>>

Here is the image
Link Lets try a link for the earthquake
Quoting belizeit:
Link The same fault that had the earthquke in Hati is shaking us here in Belize today again . I did not feel the first one but ny mom did . The second one was felt more widely .


Belizeit, in what town/district do you live?
Quoting Squid28:


Belizeit, in what town/district do you live?
Cayo Spanish Lookout our San Ignacio
Quoting belizeit:
It was not that strong just a slight shutter of the earth but acording to this map some felt it pretty strong in Guatemala .




Magnitude 5.4
Date-Time

* Tuesday, February 23, 2010 at 15:16:00 UTC
* Tuesday, February 23, 2010 at 09:16:00 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 15.984%uFFFDN, 91.386%uFFFDW
Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region GUATEMALA
Distances 85 km (55 miles) ESE of Comitan, Chiapas, Mexico
125 km (80 miles) WNW of Coban, Guatemala
175 km (110 miles) NNW of GUATEMALA CITY, Guatemala
915 km (560 miles) ESE of MEXICO CITY, D.F., Mexico
Location Uncertainty horizontal /- 6.4 km (4.0 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST=172, Nph=172, Dmin=573.5 km, Rmss=1.21 sec, Gp= 79%uFFFD,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=7
Source

* USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID us2010tbbd

Winter continues in the Great White North

Normal average low for Feb 23 . . . 9F (above)
Todays actual low . . . 13 below F

Difference 22 degrees F, below average.

Yuck, Ugg, etc !! but at least its not Siberia.
569

I interned in Belize years ago for several summers. Used to go up to San Ignacio/Santa Elena and hang out with the archaeology program from UC (read cute girls). They were working at Xunantunich at the time, stayed at Nabitunich quite a bit as well. Man I could go for a Belikin right now....

To keep this weather related what is the temp./conditions right now just to do everone in who is sitting in the US with this never ending winter.....
Heavy sleet here!
Quoting 1900hurricane:
Heavy sleet here!


Sounds like your right on the verge of seeing snow. Transition zone or mixing zone.
Quoting Squid28:
569

I interned in Belize years ago for several summers. Used to go up to San Ignacio/Santa Elena and hang out with the archaeology program from UC (read cute girls). They were working at Xunantunich at the time, stayed at Nabitunich quite a bit as well. Man I could go for a Belikin right now....

To keep this weather related what is the temp./conditions right now just to do everone in who is sitting in the US with this never ending winter.....
It was 96 at my house at lunch under a shinning sun .
Holy Cow! My hometown paper has gone 2012, Joe Bastardi on me (joking?)! BBL; need to get more apocalypse supplies!

Under the world's greatest cities, deadly plates

The next big earthquake could strike Tokyo, Istanbul, Tehran, Mexico City, New Delhi ...the list goes on and on.

By Joel Achenbach
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Megacities are something new on the planet. Earthquakes are something very old. The two are a lethal combination, as seen in the recent tragedy in Port-au-Prince, where more than 200,000 people perished -- a catastrophe that scientists say is certain to be repeated somewhere, and probably soon, with death tolls that once again stagger the mind.

(Article continues...)

Ach, link problems, try this in your browser:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/22/AR2010022204828.html?g=0
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:



LOL! :D
Quoting tornadodude:


haha yeah, I plan on doing a lot of storm chasing this year

Thats awesome!! (sorry i have been busy)
I love storm chasing! Wish I had more money to go more often and to farther places! but don't we all...
Quoting belizeit:
It was 96 at my house at lunch under a shinning sun .


Kingston NY (90 miles north of New York City): 33 degrees light wet snow. we picked up about an inch and a half last night and are expecting 4-8 tonight, then maybe 4-8 thursday night.

With all the talk about the Northeast/Mid Atlantic we have barely gotten anything here all winter. a couple of 2-3 inchers but that was it. the max we picked up this winter was 8.5" on December 9. Thw was three weeks before "the northeast blizzard of 2009"... we got .2 inches from that one
Whoa, weathermatrix is going to be a part of accuweather?

that sucks
Quoting HurricaneHunterGal:

Thats awesome!! (sorry i have been busy)
I love storm chasing! Wish I had more money to go more often and to farther places! but don't we all...


yeah! haha I feel ya, but living in the midwest means I'm pretty close to most storm outbreaks, and having family out in western Missouri and down in Dallas helps too
Quoting HurricaneHunterGal:

Thats awesome!! (sorry i have been busy)
I love storm chasing! Wish I had more money to go more often and to farther places! but don't we all...


Now that my initial costs have been paid, the traveling part of the chase is affordable! Airfare can be expensive, but I traveled to Cabo San Lucas and Bermuda last year and it was affordable, even for short notice.
Question:

What do the following cities have in common:

Corpus Christi, TX
Galveston Island, TX
Beaumont, TX
Lake Charles, LA
Lafayette, LA
New Orleans, LA
Biloxi, MS
Mobile, AL
Pensacola, FL
Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Panama City Beach, FL
Tampa, FL
Sarasota, FL
Naples, FL
Ft. Myers, FL
Miami, FL
Hollywood Beach, FL
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
West Palm Beach, FL
Boca Raton, FL
Daytona Beach, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Jacksonville, FL
Charleston, SC
Quoting CycloneOz:
Question:

What do the following cities have in common:

Corpus Christi, TX
Galveston Island, TX
Beaumont, TX
Lake Charles, LA
Lafayette, LA
New Orleans, LA
Biloxi, MS
Mobile, AL
Pensacola, FL
Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Panama City Beach, FL
Tampa, FL
Sarasota, FL
Naples, FL
Ft. Myers, FL
Miami, FL
Hollywood Beach, FL
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
West Palm Beach, FL
Boca Raton, FL
Daytona Beach, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Jacksonville, FL
Charleston, SC


they are all on the coast or border some sort of water body?
Quoting CycloneOz:
Question:

What do the following cities have in common:

Corpus Christi, TX
Galveston Island, TX
Beaumont, TX
Lake Charles, LA
Lafayette, LA
New Orleans, LA
Biloxi, MS
Mobile, AL
Pensacola, FL
Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Panama City Beach, FL
Tampa, FL
Sarasota, FL
Naples, FL
Ft. Myers, FL
Miami, FL
Hollywood Beach, FL
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
West Palm Beach, FL
Boca Raton, FL
Daytona Beach, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Jacksonville, FL
Charleston, SC


All on or below Interstate 10. :)

oops never mind, just saw Charleston
Quoting CycloneOz:
Question:

What do the following cities have in common:

Corpus Christi, TX
Galveston Island, TX
Beaumont, TX
Lake Charles, LA
Lafayette, LA
New Orleans, LA
Biloxi, MS
Mobile, AL
Pensacola, FL
Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Panama City Beach, FL
Tampa, FL
Sarasota, FL
Naples, FL
Ft. Myers, FL
Miami, FL
Hollywood Beach, FL
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
West Palm Beach, FL
Boca Raton, FL
Daytona Beach, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Jacksonville, FL
Charleston, SC


were hit by hurricanes in 2005?
Answer:

All those cities have steel reinforced parking garages!

(...and the other answers are right, too.)
Quoting tornadodude:


yeah! haha I feel ya, but living in the midwest means I'm pretty close to most storm outbreaks, and having family out in western Missouri and down in Dallas helps too

Oh totally that helps! I live in St. Pete, FL. We have had a few outbreaks here that have been pretty good.
I chased TS Fay accross the state when she came through. THAT was wild seeing the different effects on all the different cities...and watching it sit off the coast and then treck north up to Jacksonville, and then back WEST to Tallahassee! It was amazing!
Quoting CycloneOz:


Now that my initial costs have been paid, the traveling part of the chase is affordable! Airfare can be expensive, but I traveled to Cabo San Lucas and Bermuda last year and it was affordable, even for short notice.

Awesome!! Bermuda! now THAT's a place I would love to go to for storm chasing!
Quoting HurricaneHunterGal:

Oh totally that helps! I live in St. Pete, FL. We have had a few outbreaks here that have been pretty good.
I chased TS Fay accross the state when she came through. THAT was wild seeing the different effects on all the different cities...and watching it sit off the coast and then treck north up to Jacksonville, and then back WEST to Tallahassee! It was amazing!

Awesome!! Bermuda! now THAT's a place I would love to go to for storm chasing!


That would be quite cool!

lol

yeah, I'm definitely more into sever storms than hurricanes, but they both are fascinating
Quoting CycloneOz:
Answer:

All those cities have steel reinforced parking garages!

(...and the other answers are right, too.)


But do any of them have beer machines? ;)
Quoting tornadodude:


That would be quite cool!

lol

yeah, I'm definitely more into sever storms than hurricanes, but they both are fascinating

I take whichever is happening that I can have legit access to-- hurricanes or severe storms. I wish I lived closer to tornado alley, but alas it is SO far away from me! arg! haha :-)

My thesis is more directed towards severe storms here in St. Petersburg. I was tied between working on severe local weather and hurricanes. But so many studies have been done surrounding hurricanes, I decided to go with a specific local weather pattern that I don't think many have studied.
Quoting CycloneOz:


Now that my initial costs have been paid, the traveling part of the chase is affordable! Airfare can be expensive, but I traveled to Cabo San Lucas and Bermuda last year and it was affordable, even for short notice.

Are you sure that you went for "storm chasing"? Personally, I would go for the storm, and then a few days to "make up for the stress of traveling". ;)
Quoting jeffs713:

Personally, I would go for the storm, and then a few days to "make up for the stress of traveling". ;)

haha seriously...
U.S. Senate COmmittee on the latest re: the climate

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=fb6d4083- 802a-23ad-46e8-c5c098e22aa1&Region_id=&Issue_id=0f038c02-802a-23ad-4fec-b8bc71f1a6f8
596. IKE
Huge GOM storm on the 12Z ECMWF.




6-10 day temps....




6-10 day precip....

My aggie friends are finally getting some of the whitefluffy (okay, it prolly is really snain or snizzle).

College Station, Easterwood Field
Lat: 30.58 Lon: -96.37 Elev: 314
Last Update on Feb 23, 1:53 pm CST

Light Snow Fog/Mist

33 °F
(1 °C)

1900? Oh, 1900? Where are you?
Quoting atmoaggie:
My aggie friends are finally getting some of the whitefluffy (okay, it prolly is really snain or snizzle).

College Station, Easterwood Field
Lat: 30.58 Lon: -96.37 Elev: 314
Last Update on Feb 23, 1:53 pm CST

Light Snow Fog/Mist

33 °F
(1 °C)

1900? Oh, 1900? Where are you?


Maybe he is dusted in and doesnt want to open his door in case it blows the dust away.
Quoting atmoaggie:
My aggie friends are finally getting some of the whitefluffy (okay, it prolly is really snain or snizzle).

College Station, Easterwood Field
Lat: 30.58 Lon: -96.37 Elev: 314
Last Update on Feb 23, 1:53 pm CST

Light Snow Fog/Mist

33 F
(1 C)

1900? Oh, 1900? Where are you?


foshizzle mah snizzle, yo.

(based on the radar out of austin and IAH, I'm going to guess at snizzle. or as the NWS calls it, -rasn. They are actually calling for -rasnpl here.)
Quoting CycloneOz:
Question:

What do the following cities have in common:

Corpus Christi, TX
Galveston Island, TX
Beaumont, TX
Lake Charles, LA
Lafayette, LA
New Orleans, LA
Biloxi, MS
Mobile, AL
Pensacola, FL
Ft. Walton Beach, FL
Panama City Beach, FL
Tampa, FL
Sarasota, FL
Naples, FL
Ft. Myers, FL
Miami, FL
Hollywood Beach, FL
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
West Palm Beach, FL
Boca Raton, FL
Daytona Beach, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Jacksonville, FL
Charleston, SC


The majority of the populations are former New Yorkers. LOLOL
Quoting atmoaggie:
My aggie friends are finally getting some of the whitefluffy (okay, it prolly is really snain or snizzle).

College Station, Easterwood Field
Lat: 30.58 Lon: -96.37 Elev: 314
Last Update on Feb 23, 1:53 pm CST

Light Snow Fog/Mist

33 F
(1 C)

1900? Oh, 1900? Where are you?

Out playing in alot of snow!!! Fluffy snow!!!
This stuff is legit.
Oss~ That is about the cheerest, rosiest outlook for our oceans I've seen. Not only is it filled with a bunch of mights & maybes it leaves out the past like.. When the oceans became acidified in a similar way about 55m years ago, it resulted in a mass extinction of deep-sea marine organisms, especially those living in the sediments of the sea floor, which can be studied geologically through changes to rock formations. There is also a few recently published that show we are acidifying the oceans faster than 55 million yrs ago & things may not be so rosy after all for the phytoplankton & last but not least turns a blind eye to the surprise that melt water has changed ocean chemistry in ways already that some creatures can't calcify due to lack of calcium carbonate.

I've got fishermen for uncles.. the industry has been hurt really bad in spots from over fishing alone. I don't understand the playing roulette with the rest this article suggests is just fine, considering the population it is needed to support.
Anybody know how to get to these comments via the iphone app?
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Out playing in alot of snow!!! Fluffy snow!!!


Let's see light snow, mist and fog??? HMMM??

SNOGIST=snow, fog and mist!!
Hey, people.
Quoting iluvjess:
Anybody know how to get to these comments via the iphone app?
Try Safari.
Quoting Bordonaro:


Let's see light snow, mist and fog??? HMMM??

SNOGIST=snow, fog and mist!!
A lot going on.
Quoting cg2916:
Try Safari.


I realize they can be accessed through the internet. I was refering to the app.
Quoting cg2916:
A lot going on.


Yes, correction, light snow, fog and mist is called... LIGHT SNOGIST...
Quoting iluvjess:
Anybody know how to get to these comments via the iphone app?

On boysenberry, going to the regular page on the default browser works fine, just don't refresh after posting...(always leads to multiple postings from everyone that uses a mobile device)
Oss~ randomly read the resources on that opinion piece... A mix of gloom & doom Ocean acidification papers & climate change denier books. Yes interesting indeed.
308. TampaSpin 3:38 AM GMT on February 23, 2010
YOu all gotta hear this.....I was talking to a lawyer that was in court for a client and two Spanish desent guys was fined $250 plus court cost wish is another $250 each.

They was arrested for picking up Snook out of season along a bank that washed up ashore dying because of the extreme cold weather. The fish was almost dead and was out of the water completely. You gotta be kidding me to arrest someone for that. He said he sat there and heard the story and his mouth just flew open!
---------
to tampaspin: so you are justifing the fact that the 2 took snook out of season? they got fined because they broke the law.

btw, the fish in my profile pic is a snook. it was caught LEGALLY during the season and met all size and bag limits.

to everyone else: sorry for going offtopic with this reply. i was looking through posts and saw one that mentioned fishing, so i just had to reply.
Quoting Bordonaro:


Yes, correction, light snow, fog and mist is called... LIGHT SNOGIST...

That works.

Though, the last report from KCLL is Moderate Snow (and only Moderate Snow)...could be that very rare, only-snow event.
I am ver well aware of the fact that the comments section can be accessed on the internet. I was asking about the app. Thanks though.
Statement From Dr. Jane Lubchenco on the Death of Sam D. Hamilton, Director of the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service

February 22, 2010

I was deeply saddened to learn of Sam Hamilton’s untimely death this weekend. Sam was a wonderful colleague for whom we at NOAA had deep admiration. The NOAA family shares in this great loss to the conservation community, and we extend our sincere condolences to Sam’s family and to all of our colleagues at the Department of the Interior.

Sam was, above all, a true champion of wildlife conservation. Those of us who worked with Sam on restoration efforts in the Florida Everglades and the Gulf of Mexico greatly appreciated his passion, integrity, knowledge and devotion to conservation issues and to people. His unique ability to work across agencies and with diverse stakeholders to craft meaningful solutions to challenging problems was legendary. It will surely be a part of his legacy and a model for all of us.

It can be said that Sam enriched all of our lives and made our nation stronger. We will miss him dearly.

Dr. Jane Lubchenco
Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and NOAA Administrator
Come to chat, we have 10 people on.
Quoting iluvjess:
I am ver well aware of the fact that the comments section can be accessed on the internet. I was asking about the app. Thanks though.

I have an iPhone as well but I have not been able to figure out how to see comments either.
Quoting Skyepony:
Oss~ That is about the cheerest, rosiest outlook for our oceans I've seen. Not only is it filled with a bunch of mights & maybes it leaves out the past like.. When the oceans became acidified in a similar way about 55m years ago, it resulted in a mass extinction of deep-sea marine organisms, especially those living in the sediments of the sea floor, which can be studied geologically through changes to rock formations. There is also a few recently published that show we are acidifying the oceans faster than 55 million yrs ago & things may not be so rosy after all for the phytoplankton & last but not least turns a blind eye to the surprise that melt water has changed ocean chemistry in ways already that some creatures can't calcify due to lack of calcium carbonate.

I've got fishermen for uncles.. the industry has been hurt really bad in spots from over fishing alone. I don't understand the playing roulette with the rest this article suggests is just fine, considering the population it is needed to support.


as one who fishes, i would have to say that most overfishing problems are from commercial fishermen, not the recreational type. as seen here in florida, the recreational guys get hit with tighter restrictions but the commercial fisherman are allowed even greater quotas.
Accidentally clicked on QuikSCAT page earlier. I noticed they put in a link to Dr Masters' Quikscat funeral blog.

I'm almost jealous of the southern snow.. probably will be when it gets cold here. 73.6ºF at the moment.
Quoting HurricaneHunterGal:

I have an iPhone as well but I have not been able to figure out how to see comments either.


Very frustrating. I have emailed admin regarding this challenge. Hopefully they will address it before June 1.
Floridafisherman~ east central FL has several types neither are allowed to take right now(some are due in part to the recent cold). But yeah the commercial guy fishing for the population has really over fished in the recent past. NOAA put in some new regulations since many of them fished themselves out of the business leaving the recreational hungry too. It worked in some other areas. Hope it works here.
Just received my FPL electric bill...$86...Keep those cold fronts coming thru!!!
Wanna trade? Mine last month was $332!
603. I understand your point. I would offer that those articles you provided also contain many mights and maybe items, along with use of models and lab extrapolation. It is theory for the most part as it stands today. :)

Consider one of the comments --

"As there is still ice to melt in the Arctic, this region of undersaturation will continue to grow, I think," said McLaughlin. "It's hard to even say this, but once the permanent icepack melts in summer, that will stop the input of meltwater."

That is just an incorrect assumption.

Just my take, time will provide the truth with respect to our knowledge of the dynamic integrated systems at play. We have only just begun to understand them :)
627. unf97
Quoting IKE:
Huge GOM storm on the 12Z ECMWF.




6-10 day temps....




6-10 day precip....



I am really watching carefully how the models are handling next week's big GOM storm system. The ECMWF runs you displayed here keeps this potent system suppressed to the South traveling across the GOM and over Florida peninusula. The GFS is similar, but a little father north. This system potentially could be similar to the February 11-12 event over the Deep South, but possibly stronger. Still lots of time to see how the models handle this system in the coming days, but definitely a potential big weather maker early next week for sure.
T Dude! NYC and SE NY State are gonna get beat up BAD! Their Area Forecast Discussion from earlier today stated that they're are expecting a wet, heavy snow event. NCEP/HPC indicates 8"+ is possible in the NYC Metro.
Quoting Bordonaro:
T Dude! NYC and SE NY State are gonna get beat up BAD! Their Area Forecast Discussion from earlier today stated that they're are expecting a wet, heavy snow event. NCEP/HPC indicates 8"+ is possible in the NYC Metro.


They can have it!!

haha I'm ready for spring!
632. unf97
Bordonaro, has the snow begun to accumulate at your Arlington, TX location? I remember on a post you had awhile ago today that you were only expecting a dusting at best.
633. IKE
Quoting unf97:


I am really watching carefully how the models are handling next week's big GOM storm system. The ECMWF runs you displayed here keeps this potent system suppressed to the South traveling across the GOM and over Florida peninusula. The GFS is similar, but a little father north. This system potentially could be similar to the February 11-12 event over the Deep South, but possibly stronger. Still lots of time to see how the models handle this system in the coming days, but definitely a potential big weather maker early next week for sure.


Day 7 from the HPC....

Quoting Bordonaro:
T Dude! NYC and SE NY State are gonna get beat up BAD! Their Area Forecast Discussion from earlier today stated that they're are expecting a wet, heavy snow event. NCEP/HPC indicates 8"+ is possible in the NYC Metro.


Hey Bord, I am flying back to FL tomorrow through PHL. What does it look like. (If I have to rely on you for all the forecasting for my travel, I may have to put you on the payroll.)
Quoting atmoaggie:

That works.

Though, the last report from KCLL is Moderate Snow (and only Moderate Snow)...could be that very rare, only-snow event.

Indeed it is!
637. unf97
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
300 PM CST TUE FEB 23 2010



.LONG TERM...(FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)....THE SOUTHERN STREAM REMAINS
ACTIVE DURING THE EXTENDED WITH TWO SYSTEMS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS
THE AREA. THE FIRST SYSTEM IS EXPECTED FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY.
THE GLOBAL MODELS NO LONGER AGREE ON THE TIMING OF THIS SYSTEM AS
THE GFS IS NOW FAST AND FARTHER TO THE NORTH WITH THE SFC LOW.
ANOTHER...PERHAPS STRONGER SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS THE
REGION EARLY NEXT WEEK. BOTH SYSTEMS HAVE THE POTENTIAL BRING SOME
HEAVY RAINFALL TO PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GULF COAST. PARTIAL
THICKNESS VALUES ALSO INDICATE MIXED PRECIP IS POSSIBLE WITH BOTH
SYSTEMS ESPECIALLY ACROSS NORTHERN SECTIONS OF THE AREA. THE EXACT
TRACK OF THE SFC LOW WILL ULTIMATELY DETERMINE JUST WHERE THE
RAIN/SNOW LINE WILL BE AND WILL HAVE TO BE CLOSELY MONITORED IN
LATER FORECASTS.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Just received my FPL electric bill...$86...Keep those cold fronts coming thru!!!


Hey, with all the money you are saving on the electric means you can probably make some long distance phone calls!!!!!!
Quoting unf97:


I am really watching carefully how the models are handling next week's big GOM storm system. The ECMWF runs you displayed here keeps this potent system suppressed to the South traveling across the GOM and over Florida peninusula. The GFS is similar, but a little father north. This system potentially could be similar to the February 11-12 event over the Deep South, but possibly stronger. Still lots of time to see how the models handle this system in the coming days, but definitely a potential big weather maker early next week for sure.


...and after that prepare for some really cold early March numbers!
If you’re currently in Lagos and reading this, then you belong to one of two groups of people. The people who are trapped beneath the sweltering heat of Lagos or those who are sitting in air conditioned rooms who simply refuse to go outside. I don’t blame the latter. I’ve been outside, got my sunburns and I totally agree.

Lagos is hot

I don’t mean the soft basking warmth of the sun like you would expect to encounter in the Caribbean. This is heat as the sun originally intended it to be: Pure unadulterated warmth. The kind of heat that encourages people to volunteer overtime in their air conditioned office. The kind of heat that forces people who sell “pure water” to break their rules and drink-up all their water. The kind of heat that forces a journalist to wake up at 2 in the morning; grab his laptop and type this article whilst sitting in front of his open fridge.

That kind of heat.

Lagos seems to be melting and it’s hard to place why.

The problem with the current heat wave is that I do not recall Lagos being so warm. People tell me it was this hot last year. I do not agree. If I had experienced this amount of heat last year I would either have moved out of Lagos by now or left my house and moved into a tent. Yes I agree that seasons being what they are; there will always be a change in climate conditions. Lagos is supposed to have two seasons, the wet and dry season. There is nothing particularly wet about this season and as far as dry goes, if the heat keeps this up, I foresee a large pile of sand where Oshodi used to be.

In many ways, it is possible that we might have had a hand in turning the notch up. No one has exactly blamed global warming for our problems but unless Lagos is sitting on top of a suddenly active volcano, I can’t think of any other explanation.
My area(in an Orlando suburb)

Conditions: Mostly Sunny

Temp: 77F

Humidity: 28%

Dewpoint: 40F

picture perfect day.
644. unf97
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
250 PM EST TUE FEB 23 2010


LONG TERM (FRIDAY THROUGH NEXT TUESDAY)...
THE LATEST RUNS OF THE GLOBAL MODELS REMAIN IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH
THE LARGE SCALE WEATHER PATTERN. THIS PATTERN IS A CONTINUATION OF
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE DEEP SOUTH FOR QUITE SOME TIME
NOW...FREQUENT GULF LOWS AND ARCTIC INTRUSIONS. AFTER A FAIR AND
COLD PERIOD THU NIGHT AND FRIDAY...THE NEXT GULF LOW WILL PROPAGATE
QUICKLY EASTWARD ACROSS THE GULF FRI NIGHT AND SAT...BRINGING A
CHANCE OF PRECIP TO OUR AREA. THE LATEST MODEL SOLUTIONS ILLUSTRATE
WHY I DO NOT TYPICALLY LIKE TO FORECAST SNOW FOR OUR AREA BEYOND 72
HOURS...AS SMALL DIFFERENCES IN THE TRACK AND INTENSITY OF THESE
GULF LOWS MAKE BIG DIFFERENCES IN THE PRECIP TYPE. THE GFS IS NOW A
BIT STRONGER AND FARTHER NORTH WITH ITS LOW...WHICH WOULD PUSH THE
RAIN-SNOW LINE JUST NORTH OF OUR FORECAST AREA. THE ECMWF AND GEM
HAVE A MORE SOUTHERN TRACK...BRINGING IN TO QUESTION WHETHER THERE
WILL BE ANY PRECIP HERE OR NOT. AFTER COORDINATING WITH OUR
SURROUNDING OFFICES...WE WILL FORECAST A POP OF 30 PERCENT WITH THE
PRECIP TYPE BEING A COLD RAIN. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN BELOW
AVERAGE THROUGH MON...WHEN THE NEXT GULF LOW BEGINS TO DEVELOP IN
THE WESTERN GULF. ALL THE GUIDANCE SHOW THIS WILL BE A STRONG LOW
WITH A LOT OF PRECIP AND GUSTY WINDS AS IT WINDS UP ON ITS TREK
ACROSS THE GULF. THE GFS AND ECMWF PARTIAL THICKNESSES APPEAR
MARGINALLY COLD ENOUGH FOR A RAIN-SNOW MIX...BUT THEIR WETBULB ZERO
HEIGHTS LOOK TO BE TOO HIGH WHICH WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE SNOW WOULD
MELT BEFORE REACHING THE GROUND. BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE SITUATIONS
ARE CLOSE CALLS ON THE PRECIP TYPE...AND BECAUSE SUBTLE CHANGES CAN
DRAMATICALLY AFFECT THIS FORECAST...WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSELY MONITOR
FUTURE MODEL TRENDS.

Quoting PcolaDan:
Russian capital Moscow covered by record 63cm snowfall


You know how I'm sure they're finished out there? The carts! They're using carts to move their wounded and the supplies. The carts came to me in my dream. I couldn't figure it out. Then I remembered. . .

. . .that nightmare in the snow. The agonizing retreat from Moscow. How cold it was. They threw the wounded and what was left of the supplies in the carts. Napoleon was finished. Not any color left.

Not even the red of blood.
Only the snow.
646. IKE
From the afternoon Birmingham,AL. discussion about the system early next week....

"AND THEN THERE`S THE *NEXT* SYSTEM...YET ANOTHER UPPER SHORTWAVE AND
ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW TREKKING ALONG THE GULF COAST. THIS ONE STILL
HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BIGGEST PRECIP PRODUCER OF THE 3 SYSTEMS
IN THE 7 DAY FORECAST. WE WILL NEED TO KEEP WATCHING TEMPERATURE
TRENDS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FEATURE...AS MORE WINTER WEATHER IS A
POSSIBILITY."

Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Just received my FPL electric bill...$86...Keep those cold fronts coming thru!!!


Check it, though. I thought the same thing, but I had a $120 (iirc) credit because they were rebating based on having used less fuel and lower fuel costs than anticipated.
I received a credit on the previous bill, which brought it down to $56. No credits on this bill.
649. unf97
Quoting weatherbro:


...and after that prepare for some really cold early March numbers!


Most definitely. Temperatures will probably average as much as 15-20 degrees below normal for many areas in the Deep South in the wake of the big GOM system next week.

Definitely a very cold pattern for early March, but hopefully, it shouldn't be as brutally cold as the January arctic outbreak we experienced. The airmass will hopefully moderate very quickly with solar insolation lasting longer of course as we get late in the winter season.
Quoting CycloneOz:


You know how I'm sure they're finished out there? The carts! They're using carts to move their wounded and the supplies. The carts came to me in my dream. I couldn't figure it out. Then I remembered. . .

. . .that nightmare in the snow. The agonizing retreat from Moscow. How cold it was. They threw the wounded and what was left of the supplies in the carts. Napoleon was finished. Not any color left.

Not even the red of blood.
Only the snow.


For over a thousand years, Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of a triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters and musicians and strange animals from the conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children, robed in white, stood with him in the chariot, or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror, holding a golden crown, and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.
651. IKE
From the afternoon Super Bowl champs discussion....

"LONG TERM...
ONCE TODAY/S SYSTEM PULLS THROUGH...THE AREA WILL REMAIN UNDER NWRLY
FLOW WHICH WILL KEEPS TEMPS BELOW NORMAL. ONE CONCERN IS LOWS WED
NIGHT. STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION AND THE SURFACE RIDGE MOVING IN
QUICKLY WILL SET UP FOR GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING. COULD END UP WITH
MID 20S IN SWRN MS AND UPPER 20S ALONG THE I-12 CORRIDOR. A FAST
MOVING SHORT WAVE IS PROGGED TO SWING THROUGH THE AREA LATE THIS
WEEK. STILL HAVE SOME DISCONTINUITY ON TIMING AND SFC LOW LOCATION
RESULTING IN A LOWER THAN NORMAL FORECAST CONFIDENCE. AT THIS
TIME...PRECIP AMOUNTS LOOK TO BE LESS THAN HALF AN INCH. TO BE
HONEST...THE BIGGER CONCERN COMES IN EARLY NEXT WEEK. MODELS SUGGEST
A FAIRLY DEEP UPPER TROUGH DIGGING TO THE GULF SOUTH WITH A SURFACE
LOW DEVELOPING AND TRACKING ACROSS THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO. IF
THIS SCENARIO WERE TO ACTUALLY PLAY OUT...THE GULF SOUTH WILL BE
LOOKING AT YET ANOTHER WINTER WEATHER EVENT.

WINTER SEASON JUST DOESN/T SEEM TO WANT TO GO AWAY."

653. unf97
Ike, the models have been intializing this GOM Low for the last several days actually dating back to last Friday. They seem to be in basic agreement that this system could spin up to be a very potent system. I am inclined to think that this system could be stronger than the February 11-12 Deep South storm system. The dynamics certainly look impressive looking at the model runs of GFS and ECMWF, and the upper level shortwave depicted in the runs next week swinging in from the Southwest looks as impressive as I have seen in this El Nino pattern.
Quoting IKE:
WINTER SEASON JUST DOESN/T SEEM TO WANT TO GO AWAY."


On the front page of the Pensacola News Journal (issue date: March 3, 1983) a dogger clad CycloneOz was pictured laying out on a dock at Bayview Park, getting the first sun tan of the season.

March 3rd - 8 days away...and a winter storm is going to be digging into the Gulf Coast.

May I just say right here and now that GW is BS!
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I received a credit on the previous bill, which brought it down to $56. No credits on this bill.


Isn't it dangerous to walk around in a house with 2 watt bulbs?????
Quoting Grothar:


Isn't it dangerous to walk around in a house with 2 watt bulbs?????


2 watts = Power generated by my brain...so I guess not? ;)
Quoting Grothar:


Hey Bord, I am flying back to FL tomorrow through PHL. What does it look like. (If I have to rely on you for all the forecasting for my travel, I may have to put you on the payroll.)


Rainy, breezy and cold, lows in the lower-mid 30's, highs in the mid 40's.

The Nor'Easter kicks up later, starting early Thursday morning into Friday, on onward into parts of the weekend, especially for New England.

The areas affected will be the Mid Atlantic states, then the Northeast and New England regions!!

Certain areas may receive 8-20" of wet, heavy snow, with possible Blizzard Conditions, as the second L bombs off (rapidly intensifies) near the DELMARVA peninsula as it moves torwards E LI and S New England!!
Whens the global warming thing going to take effect? We're freezing in Texas!
659. IKE
Quoting unf97:
Ike, the models have been intializing this GOM Low for the last several days actually dating back to last Friday. They seem to be in basic agreement that this system could spin up to be a very potent system. I am inclined to think that this system could be stronger than the February 11-12 Deep South storm system. The dynamics certainly look impressive looking at the model runs of GFS and ECMWF, and the upper level shortwave depicted in the runs next week swinging in from the Southwest looks as impressive as I have seen in this El Nino pattern.


Waiting on the 18Z GFS. Looks like maybe after next weeks GOM low and cold snap that follow it, finally some spring like weather moves in. Guessing around the 7-10th of March? Subject to change though.


Quoting CycloneOz:


On the front page of the Pensacola News Journal (issue date: March 3, 1983) a dogger clad CycloneOz was pictured laying out on a dock at Bayview Park, getting the first sun tan of the season.

March 3rd - 8 days away...and a winter storm is going to be digging into the Gulf Coast.

May I just say right here and now that GW is BS!


LOL.
Quoting Grothar:


Isn't it dangerous to walk around in a house with 2 watt bulbs?????


I just took some energy saving tips from Uncle Fester.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I just took some energy saving tips from Uncle Fester.


LOL! :D
here is a thought,

there was no direct reference to GW, AGW, or CC in Jeff's blog, so let's not stray off topic haha
70% chance of rain tomorrow....

Local Text Forecast for
West Palm Beach, FL (33409)

Feb 23 Tonight
Partly cloudy this evening, then becoming cloudy after midnight. Low 63F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.

Feb 24 Tomorrow
Showers and thundershowers likely. High 77F. ESE winds shifting to SW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 70%.

Feb 24 Tomorrow night
Rain showers early with overcast skies late. Thunder is possible early. Low 47F. Winds NW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 60%.

Feb 25 Thursday
Partly cloudy. Highs in the mid 60s and lows in the low 40s.

Feb 26 Friday
Plenty of sun. Highs in the mid 60s and lows in the low 50s.

Feb 27 Saturday
Showers, maybe a rumble of thunder. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the upper 40s.

Feb 28 Sunday
Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the low 50s.

Mar 1 Monday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the low 60s.

Mar 2 Tuesday
A few thunderstorms possible. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the low 50s.

Mar 3 Wednesday
More sun than clouds. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the low 50s.

Mar 4 Thursday
Sunshine. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the mid 50s.
Hi
We've had a continuous stream of moisture flowint up eastern new york and western new england. I haven't experienced this kind of event where moisture just flows up eastern ny from new jersey and the atlantic and was wondering if anyone could tell me what is causing it?
665. IKE
Quoting tornadodude:
here is a thought,

there was no direct reference to GW, AGW, or CC in Jeff's blog, so let's not stray off topic haha


You don't have to worry about me getting involved in it.
Enough is enough is enough ALREADY!! This Donna Summer song, "Enough is Enough" came to mind!!


Here is the latest Area Forecast Discussion from NWS DFW, TX. Notice the area in bold print:

000
FXUS64 KFWD 232206
AFDFWD

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
406 PM CST TUE FEB 23 2010

.DISCUSSION...
SNOWFALL TOTALS REACHED 3 TO 5 INCHES WITHIN MUCH OF THE WINTER
STORM WARNING AREA. ALTHOUGH THE SNOW HAS DIMINISHED IN WESTERN
PORTIONS OF THE WARNING...WILL MAINTAIN ENTIRE WARNING AREA AT
LEAST THROUGH THE EVENING COMMUTE. HEAVY SNOW BURSTS FROM TEMPLE/
KILLEEN...EASTWARD TO PALESTINE...HAVE RESULTED IN ACCUMULATIONS
ON ROADWAYS SUFFICIENT TO CAUSE DISRUPTIONS TO TRAVEL. A WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORY WILL CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CWA SOUTH
OF I-20...WHERE SOME SNOWFALL TOTALS HAVE BEEN 2 TO 4 INCHES.
FLURRIES RECENTLY REPORTED IN ABILENE...BRECKENRIDGE...AND
COMANCHE. WILL CARRY FLURRIES IN INITIAL EVENING PERIOD ALONG AND
JUST NORTH OF I-20 CORRIDOR...BUT ACTIVITY WILL CONTINUE TO
DIMINISH INTO THE EARLY EVENING. SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES
AREAWIDE WEDNESDAY MORNING...WITH POTENTIAL FOR ICY PATCHES DURING
THE MORNING COMMUTE...PARTICULARLY WHERE SNOWFALL WAS GREATEST.

TWO MORE EVENTS ON TAP...AS PROGRESSIVE PATTERN CONTINUES. THE
FIRST WILL BE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY WHEN THE NEXT COLD FRONT
ARRIVES. A MORE PROLONGED RAIN EVENT IS IN STORE SUNDAY AND
MONDAY.

DRIER AIR WILL FILTER INTO NORTH TEXAS THROUGH WEDNESDAY...BUT
MOISTURE WILL SURGE BACK INTO THE REGION THURSDAY. APPEARS
DOWNGLIDE/DRYING ENSUES...AND 500MB TROUGH AXIS WILL HAVE
PASSED...BEFORE COLUMN COOLS ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOW. WILL CONTINUE
TO ASSESS AS EVENT APPROACHES...BUT REGARDLESS...PATTERN IS NOT
CONDUCIVE FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL. AT THIS TIME...WILL REFRAIN
FROM INTRODUCING SNOW ALONG THE RED RIVER...WHERE NORMAN HAS
RAIN/SNOW MIX WITH LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS ON OKLAHOMA SIDE.


GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT WITH CLOSED POLAR LOW SLOWLY MOVING ACROSS
THE LONE STAR STATE SUNDAY AND MONDAY. TEMPERATURES WILL BE
PERILOUSLY CLOSE TO FREEZING FAR NORTHERN ZONES. WILL BEAR
WATCHING AS WELL.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I just took some energy saving tips from Uncle Fester.



I won't dare take the chance of posting the image, but here is a link you might enjoy!

Link
Quoting IKE:


You don't have to worry about me getting involved in it.


yeah, just thought I would point it out :P
LOL...How did you get a camera into my house????
Cassini Finds Plethora of Plumes, Hotspots at Enceladus

Those poor, poor Enceladusians. GW has fractured their moon...and now to top it off, they have to endure 15 years of darkness!

They didn't learn from our mistakes here on Earth.

Oh well...woulda, coulda, shoulda!



Quoting Grothar:


Isn't it dangerous to walk around in a house with 2 watt bulbs?????


Climate sensitivity is around 3ºC for a doubling of CO2

The climate sensitivity classically defined is the response of global mean temperature to a forcing once all the ‘fast feedbacks’ have occurred (atmospheric temperatures, clouds, water vapour, winds, snow, sea ice etc.), but before any of the ’slow’ feedbacks have kicked in (ice sheets, vegetation, carbon cycle etc.). Given that it doesn’t matter much which forcing is changing, sensitivity can be assessed from any particular period in the past where the changes in forcing are known and the corresponding equilibrium temperature change can be estimated. As we have discussed previously, the last glacial period is a good example of a large forcing (~7 W/m2 from ice sheets, greenhouse gases, dust and vegetation) giving a large temperature response (~5 ºC) and implying a sensitivity of about 3ºC (with substantial error bars). More formally, you can combine this estimate with others taken from the 20th century, the response to volcanoes, the last millennium, remote sensing etc. to get pretty good constraints on what the number should be. This was done by Annan and Hargreaves (2006), and they come up with, you guessed it, 3ºC.

Converting the estimate for doubled CO2 to a more useful factor gives ~0.75 ºC/(W/m2).

Radiative forcing x climate sensitivity is a significant number

Current forcings (1.6 W/m2) x 0.75 ºC/(W/m2) imply 1.2 ºC that would occur at equilibrium. Because the oceans take time to warm up, we are not yet there (so far we have experienced 0.7ºC), and so the remaining 0.5 ºC is ‘in the pipeline’. We can estimate this independently using the changes in ocean heat content over the last decade or so (roughly equal to the current radiative imbalance) of ~0.7 W/m2, implying that this ‘unrealised’ forcing will lead to another 0.7×0.75 ºC – i.e. 0.5 ºC.

Additional forcings in business-as-usual scenarios range roughly from 3 to 7 W/m2 and therefore additional warming (at equilibrium) would be 2 to 5 ºC. That is significant.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/08/the-co2-problem-in-6-easy-steps/

Quoting tornadodude:
here is a thought,

there was no direct reference to GW, AGW, or CC in Jeff's blog, so let's not stray off topic haha


Too late...

...but my digs are at least humorous, imo.
673. IKE
System bombs over north Florida at 162 hours on the 18Z GFS...



At 168 hours...

Quoting IKE:
System bombs over north Florida at 162 hours on the 18Z GFS...



At 168 hours...



Well, if it stays on schedule AND doesn't bring alot of cold air down with it AND it's the last one of the season...

...maybe someone can start work on their tan in Pensacola come March 3rd this year.
Quoting unf97:
Bordonaro, has the snow begun to accumulate at your Arlington, TX location? I remember on a post you had awhile ago today that you were only expecting a dusting at best.


We did not even receive a dusting. We had a few moderate snow showers, and several light snow flurries.

The event started at 7:30am and the snow flurries ended by 2pm.
Weather service: Big spring floods likely in Midwest
Communities along rivers in the Midwest are bracing for what could be a whopper of a spring flood season, with the National Weather Service warning of a "high probability" of significant flooding along parts of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers and their tributaries.

"The ground really hasn't recovered because it got cold and what would have been running off never had the chance," weather service hydrologist Mark Fuchs said Monday. "Once it warms up we're going to have a fairly high risk of flooding."
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/floods/2010-02-23-midwest-spring-flooding_N.htm

Moorhead to start filling sandbags for potential flood
Moorhead will start filling sandbags on Monday. The goal is to fill 300-thousand sandbags ahead of a potential flood.

The sandbag-filling site will be on the north side of town... And the city is hoping for volunteers to help fill the bags. Moorhead is also spending $34-thousand dollars to bring in a spider machine that can fill 5-thousand sandbags an hour.

The machine won't be here for another couple of weeks, so until then, the bags will be filled by hand. If you'd like to help, you can to go the public works facility in the 700 block of 15th Avenue North Monday through Saturday from 7 a-m to 6 p-m.
http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/30272/group/News/
Quoting HurrikanEB:
Hi
We've had a continuous stream of moisture flowint up eastern new york and western new england. I haven't experienced this kind of event where moisture just flows up eastern ny from new jersey and the atlantic and was wondering if anyone could tell me what is causing it?


Compliments of the -NAO and -AO (Negative North Atlantic and Negative Arctic Ossolation).

There is a BIG High over Greenland, blocking the weather systems from moving out to sea. Instead, there are 2 areas of Low pressure. The first is affecting the NE US now with coastal rain and inland snow. That moves away tomorrow.

The second storm develops off the NC coastline and rapidly intensifies as it hugs the coast.

The second storm may bring a widespread wet, heavy snow event to the Mid Atlantic, NE and New England, starting early TH-SA.
678. unf97
Quoting IKE:
System bombs over north Florida at 162 hours on the 18Z GFS...



At 168 hours...



Yeah, Ike that looks very impressive. The GOM Low "bombs" essentially right over North Florida and east just off the NE FL, SE GA coast by next Tuesday morning. If this verifies, this storm is going to pack quite a wallop!
Quoting Bordonaro:


Compliments of the -NAO and -AO (Negative North Atlantic and Negative Arctic Ossolation).

There is a BIG High over Greenland, blocking the weather systems from moving out to sea. Instead, there are 2 areas of Low pressure. The first is affecting the NE US now with coastal rain and inland snow. That moves away tomorrow.

The second storm develops off the NC coastline and rapidly intensifies as it hugs the coast.

The second storm may bring a widespread wet, heavy snow event to the Mid Atlantic, NE and New England, starting early TH-SA.


Ok. that makes sense. Thank you very much :)
Quoting HurrikanEB:


Ok. that makes sense. Thank you very much :)


You're welcome, the pattern will EVENTUALLY change, sometime next week, MAYBE?
Quoting unf97:


Yeah, Ike that looks very impressive. The GOM Low "bombs" essentially right over North Florida and east just off the NE FL, SE GA coast by next Tuesday morning. If this verifies, this storm is going to pack quite a wallop!

Damn...I wonder if there will be some snow on the back end of that thing, with that 0C line dipping into the northern Gulf. Anyone have any GFS precip type graphics? I need a good site for those...
Here we go again Ike!
Quoting SkulDouggery:
Whens the global warming thing going to take effect? We're freezing in Texas!
You are freezing due to global warming ! The over heated pacific ocean causes the cold fronts to push further inland because they have more moister ,
I have made a significant observation today. Throwing snowballs makes you hands VERY COLD!
Quoting 1900hurricane:
I have made a significant observation today. Throwing snowballs makes you hands VERY COLD!

That's why you use gloves. lol
Yeah, but I don't own any!
My two new GoPro Helmet Hero HD video cameras are waiting for me! Happy happy joy joy! :)

Where's June 1st when you need it?


Tracking Number: 1Z05R2W1036XXXXXXXX
Status: Delivered

UPS has delivered the shipment.
Delivered On:
02/23/2010 3:18 P.M.
688. unf97
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Here we go again Ike!


Good evening Doug!

Get ready for the big whopper of a GOM storm next week it appears!
Just another flood for the Turkish city of Edirne

The center of the northwestern city of Edirne is untouched by recent flooding. Locals have grown used to the seasonal disasters, but the farmers and villagers affected are increasingly less forgiving of the government for the lack of a permanent solution. Others from the city center watch the flooding on TV and then visit the damaged to view the overflowed rivers

The two rivers started to overflow Feb. 13, and the water blocked nearby traffic for two days. The flood caused financial losses, but there was no loss of life because authorities had warned the locals two days ahead of the flood.

On a small hill in the Sarayiçi neighborhood, locals gathered to watch a blocked bridge on the Tunca River and historical places such as the Kırkpınar Oil Wrestling Arena, a Balkan War graveyard, the Tower of Justice and a football pitch, all go under water.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=a-city-watching-its-flood-from-tvs-2010-02-23

Dozens feared lost in landslides
Severe landslides in Indonesia have killed at least five people and dozens more are buried in a tea plantation in a district south of the capital Jakarta, reports say.

The landslide occurred after heavy rainfall struck the flood-ravaged Bandung district, on the main island of Java, south of Jakarta.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10628216
Quoting unf97:


Yeah, Ike that looks very impressive. The GOM Low "bombs" essentially right over North Florida and east just off the NE FL, SE GA coast by next Tuesday morning. If this verifies, this storm is going to pack quite a wallop!


geeez louise, what have I missed? Next Tuesday??

Little more info, please

hi ya'll!
Quoting belizeit:
You are freezing due to global warming ! The over heated pacific ocean causes the cold fronts to push further inland because they have more moister ,


Freezing? GW!
Drought? GW!
Oppressive Heat? GW!
Cat 5's? GW!
Missed the putt on #3? GW!
Cat stops using the litterbox? GW!
Clothes not fitting? GW!
Office smell? GW!
Leap year? GW!
Didn't catch any beads during Mardi Gras? GW!
There's some more minnor banding developing off to my west.

694. unf97
Quoting aquak9:


geeez louise, what have I missed? Next Tuesday??

Little more info, please

hi ya'll!


Hey aquak. latest GFS runs "bombs" the GOM Low which will appears to track right across our region of North Florida and into the Atlantic just off the coast by Tuesday morning.
ahhh...major faux pas...sorry- I shoulda read back before posting.
You know, for something that's supposed to be "on its way out"...El Nino sure is putting on a show this winter.

Can you imagine our tropical weather this season if it does wane by the beginning of summer?

Could Bastardi be right with his prediction for this hurricane season?
Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service New Orleans la
338 PM CST Tuesday Feb 23 2010





Short term...
not much has changed in the thinking of tonight/S winter weather
event. Water vapor imagery shows shortwave diving southeastward
across West Texas. Most of the appreciable rain out ahead of this
system remains in north central la and eastern Texas. Echoes appear
on the lix radar just northwest of btr but dry air in the middle levels are
likely keeping anything from reaching the ground just yet.
Temperatures should fall fairly rapidly after sunset this evening.
Model soundings indicate wet bulb cooling to be most significant
after 00z as rain moving in saturates the column. Like most snow
forecasts for south Louisiana...the toughest part is timing the
change over to snow...locations...and duration of frozen precipitation. As
of now...southwestern MS will be the first to experience a mix of rain and
snow possibly just before midnight. Continued precipitation will cool
the column enough for a full change over to snow along southwestern MS and
the adjacent la parishes...possibly dipping south into the northern
Baton Rouge metropolitan area. At the same time...a line of mix snow/rain
is prognosticated to develop from southern btr metropolitan northeastward into
extreme northern St. Tammany Parish and into northern Pearl River
County MS. The precipitation should drop off from west to east fairly
rapidly after sunrise and be completely done by the afternoon. With
most frozen precipitation falling along the backside of the precipitation
shield...snowfall amounts are expected to be quite low with less
than one half inch as the maximum across the County Warning Area. The combination of
little to no accumulation and surface temperatures hovering just above freezing
resulted in the decision to only go out with a Special Weather
Statement as opposed to a wntr weather advisory. Impacts are just expected
to be so minimal that it didn/T seem appropriate. Later
shifts...especially tonight...will have to monitor the situation
closely in case the forecast is too conservative and then an
advisory could be issued.


&&


Long term...
once today/S system pulls through...the area will remain under nwrly
flow which will keeps temperatures below normal. One concern is lows Wednesday
night. Strong cold air advection and the surface ridge moving in
quickly will set up for good radiational cooling. Could end up with
middle 20s in southwestern MS and upper 20s along the I-12 corridor. A fast
moving short wave is prognosticated to swing through the area late this
week. Still have some discontinuity on timing and surface low location
resulting in a lower than normal forecast confidence. At this
time...precipitation amounts look to be less than half an inch. To be
honest...the bigger concern comes in early next week. Models suggest
a fairly deep upper trough digging to the Gulf south with a surface
low developing and tracking across the northern Gulf of Mexico. If
this scenario were to actually play out...the Gulf south will be
looking at yet another winter weather event.


Winter season just doesn/T seem to want to go away.




Meffer
&&
698. unf97
Quoting unf97:


Hey aquak. Latest GFS runs "bombs" the GOM Low which appears to track right across our region of North Florida and into the Atlantic just off the coast by next Tuesday morning should the run verify.
hi unf- why do I even bother with my local NWS...

you guys got everything I need right here.

But ANYWAY, just to re-inforce ya'lls predictions...from my local NWS:

TUESDAY...12Z GFS ENSEMBLE RUNS ARE SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
DEEP UPPER LEVEL TROF/CUT OFF LOW THAT WILL TRACK INTO THE SERN U.S.
AND PROVIDE FOR INTENSE LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT ACRS THE NERN GOMEX
THAT COULD TRACK RIGHT ACRS THE FORECAST AREA. VERY WINDY WITH
WIDESPREAD RAIN AND POSSIBLE SVR WX EVENT. WITH EVENT A WEEK AWAY
NOT TOO MANY MORE DETAILS KNOWN AT THIS TIME...BUT COULD HAVE MAJOR
IMPACT
AND HELP TO BRING IN MARCH LIKE A LION!
Officially, at the DFW Int'l AP, TX had 0.1" of snow today and temperatures average -15F from normal!

And possibly MORE SNOW on Su/Mo 2/28-3/1 as the 850MB temps drop below freezing and a Polar Low sneeks across North Central TX.

Somebody, please, send us at least one 70F day, soon!!
One to bookmark as we slide into 2010

ATCF images (Hurricane Track Models)
From the NWS Mobile forecast discussion:

.LONG TERM...(FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)...THE SOUTHERN STREAM REMAINS
ACTIVE DURING THE EXTENDED WITH TWO SYSTEMS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS
THE AREA. THE FIRST SYSTEM IS EXPECTED FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY.
THE GLOBAL MODELS NO LONGER AGREE ON THE TIMING OF THIS SYSTEM AS
THE GFS IS NOW FAST AND FARTHER TO THE NORTH WITH THE SFC LOW.
ANOTHER...PERHAPS STRONGER SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS THE
REGION EARLY NEXT WEEK. BOTH SYSTEMS HAVE THE POTENTIAL BRING SOME
HEAVY RAINFALL TO PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GULF COAST. PARTIAL
THICKNESS VALUES ALSO INDICATE MIXED PRECIP IS POSSIBLE WITH BOTH
SYSTEMS ESPECIALLY ACROSS NORTHERN SECTIONS OF THE AREA. THE EXACT
TRACK OF THE SFC LOW WILL ULTIMATELY DETERMINE JUST WHERE THE
RAIN/SNOW LINE WILL BE AND WILL HAVE TO BE CLOSELY MONITORED IN
LATER FORECASTS.


We'll see if this thing takes a more southern track this time and brings the rain/snow line closer to the coast. Would be nice. :-)
Quoting aquak9:
...NOT TOO MANY MORE DETAILS KNOWN AT THIS TIME...BUT COULD HAVE MAJOR
IMPACT
AND HELP TO BRING IN MARCH LIKE A LION!


In like a lion, out like a lamb...and then a July Cat 2 right up the gut.

Wouldn't it be interesting that the whole of 2010 was remembered for intense weather?
Quoting Bordonaro:
Somebody, please, send us at least one 70F day, soon!!


Here is your UPS tracking number: 1Z039483948203921
705. unf97
Quoting Bordonaro:
Officially, at the DFW Int'l AP, TX had 0.1" of snow today and temperatures average -15F from normal!

And possibly MORE SNOW on Su/Mo 2/28-3/1 as the 850MB temps drop below freezing and a Polar Low sneeks across North Central TX.

Somebody, please, send us at least one 70F day, soon!!


It has been a historic winter season for you over there Bordonaro. Snowfall records continue on for you thanks to the El Nino. The very potent shortwave Mon-Tuesday of next week definitely has the potential to give significant snowfall totals throughout much of TX. You maybe getting weary of it Bordonaro, but you would probably admit that seeing so much snowfall over there this season has been mostly a delight. Except for maybe the big 1 feet of snow you got a copule of weeks ago....
Quoting aquak9:


geeez louise, what have I missed? Next Tuesday??

Little more info, please

hi ya'll!


A closed Polar Low will parade across TX on Su-Mo 2/28-3/1. Then it meets the relatively mild, moist GOM airmass, and the the system will bomb out, rapidly intensify over the N GOM.

And continue to intensify as it crosses the FL peninsula and moves off the SE coastline.

Be on the look-out for strong/gale force winds, heavy rain/inland snow over parts of the SE US, and possibly a widespread severe weather outbreak.

And the JOYS of the Modiki El Nino continues!!
Quoting quakeman55:
From the NWS Mobile forecast discussion:

.LONG TERM...(FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)...THE SOUTHERN STREAM REMAINS
ACTIVE DURING THE EXTENDED WITH TWO SYSTEMS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS
THE AREA. THE FIRST SYSTEM IS EXPECTED FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY.
THE GLOBAL MODELS NO LONGER AGREE ON THE TIMING OF THIS SYSTEM AS
THE GFS IS NOW FAST AND FARTHER TO THE NORTH WITH THE SFC LOW.
ANOTHER...PERHAPS STRONGER SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS THE
REGION EARLY NEXT WEEK. BOTH SYSTEMS HAVE THE POTENTIAL BRING SOME
HEAVY RAINFALL TO PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GULF COAST. PARTIAL
THICKNESS VALUES ALSO INDICATE MIXED PRECIP IS POSSIBLE WITH BOTH
SYSTEMS ESPECIALLY ACROSS NORTHERN SECTIONS OF THE AREA. THE EXACT
TRACK OF THE SFC LOW WILL ULTIMATELY DETERMINE JUST WHERE THE
RAIN/SNOW LINE WILL BE AND WILL HAVE TO BE CLOSELY MONITORED IN
LATER FORECASTS.


We'll see if this thing takes a more southern track this time and brings the rain/snow line closer to the coast. Would be nice. :-)


Hmm. Tallahassee and Mobile have mentioned this. Peachtree City for GA though is saying that there are way too many uncertainties to really say anything yet.
Quoting unf97:


It has been a historic winter season for you over there Bordonaro. Snowfall records continue on for you thanks to the El Nino. The very potent shortwave Mon-Tuesday of next week definitely has the potential to give significant snowfall totals throughout much of TX. You maybe getting weary of it Bordonaro, but you would probably admit that seeing so much snowfall over there this season has been mostly a delight. Except for maybe the big 1 feet of snow you got a copule of weeks ago....


On 2/11-2/12/2010, DFW AP received 12.5" of snow, breaking the all-time records for 1 calendar day snowfall and the largest 24HR snowfall. Our records go back 112 yrs!

I had about 14" of snow here in SE Arlington, TX. I have not seen that much snow since 1977, living on Long Island.

Even the winter of 1979-80 in Buffalo, NY did not have a snowfall of over 6" at a time. Although the winter total was 56", about 22" below their normal snowfall.

Here in North Central TX, in DEC-FEB, we will have periods of mild weather. After the January Freeze Fiasco, that lasted about 4 days straight in the icebox, about 5 days later, we had temps up to 79F at the Arlington, TX AP.

Sunday, 2/21, at my house, we hit 70F, for about 1 hr, then the Arctic front dropped us back into the 30's within 8 hrs.

We are now at 42F. The high for the day, AHHH!!

I just would like 1 or 2 more mild days. This month is averaging -7.5F normal.

709. unf97
Quoting Bordonaro:


A closed Polar Low will parade across TX on Su-Mo 2/28-3/1. Then it meets the relatively mild, moist GOM airmass, and the the system will bomb out, rapidly intensify over the N GOM.

And continue to intensify as it crosses the FL peninsula and moves off the SE coastline.

Be on the look-out for strong/gale force winds, heavy rain/inland snow over parts of the SE US, and possibly a widespread severe weather outbreak.

And the JOYS of the Modiki El Nino continues!!


Good synopsis Bordo. Yeah, severe weather is a very good possibility for Central and South Florida if this scenario pans out for early next week. And if the Low really "bombs" as the GFS suggests, good snowfall totals on the back side of the system will impact interior areas of the Deep South.
The joys of a Modiki El Nino
In winter? No suave, dang hito bambino
It's so darn cold
Snow blinding as gold
Great odds for Gulf blizzard at casino! :)
We were forecast to hit 80 today, but maxed out at 78. Temps. take a dive for the rest of the week.
Modiki El Nino, sliding into a KizzyYourAzzyGoodbye neutral?

And here I am, sitting like the GOM's last barrier island...
Quoting aquak9:
Modiki El Nino, sliding into a KizzyYourAzzyGoodbye neutral?

And here I am, sitting like the GOM's last barrier island...


That was an awesome way to describe our moderate and weakening Modiki El Nino.

We have a -NAO and a -AO, an an active Polar Jet and a active Sub-Tropical Jet.

I promise, I am NOT trying to be an alarmist, not trying to be a "Joe Bastardi-like" hypist.

HOWEVER, this storm system for 3/1-3/4/10 may be a very active, potentially dangerous storm.

When you have a closed Polar Low, move into the mild GOM, with an active, juicy Sub-Tropical Jet Stream, you truly have ALL the makings for a SUPER STORM!!!!


18Z GFS RUN SURFACE MAP 162HRS, TU 3/2/10 at 7AM EST:
The Krewe of LaSnowDeFoote
Fiesta of Five Inches Parade - Pensacola, FL


Thanks, Bord. Geeesh, guess I'll call an attorney and make out my will. This is gonna be a long year...

:)
Quoting CycloneOz:
The joys of a Modiki El Nino
In winter? No suave, dang hito bambino
It's so darn cold
Snow blinding as gold
Great odds for Gulf blizzard at casino! :)


Meteorological poetry!! Nice, very nice!!
Quoting Patrap:
something coming
Is that your new Hurricane chasing outfit Oz?
We're getting bombed here in Eastern New York. 5" of 8-to-1 wet snow already, closer to 10" just east of where I am, and expecting a foot before this winds down tomorrow.

But that's only the first storm. One is expected to blow up just off the DelMarva, then track north and even west to eventually sit right over our heads. I looked at the latest GFS model and it has the tightest band of isobars I've ever seen on an inland low in this area, so I'm imagining 60 mph wind gusts on Friday, with god only knows how much more new snow.

The local mets are refusing to even guess how much snow on Friday, in fact. I grew up 40 miles south of Buffalo, so I know snow and blizzards, but quite honestly, I'm a bit scared about this one, as the worst case scenario could be really awful, especially if people start losing power from the very heavy snow and big winds.

As a precursor, the commute home today was a total nightmare, and I've already had three friends text me that they were in fender-benders. :(

Jo
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Is that your new Hurricane chasing outfit Oz?


LOL...no...but this is!!!

Quoting Bordonaro:


That was an awesome way to describe our moderate and weakening Modiki El Nino.

We have a -NAO and a -AO, an an active Polar Jet and a active Sub-Tropical Jet.

I promise, I am NOT trying to be an alarmist, not trying to be a "Joe Bastardi-like" hypist.

HOWEVER, this storm system for 3/1-3/4/10 may be a very active, potentially dangerous storm.

When you have a closed Polar Low, move into the mild GOM, with an active, juicy Sub-Tropical Jet Stream, you truly have ALL the makings for a SUPER STORM!!!!


18Z GFS RUN SURFACE MAP 162HRS, TU 3/2/10 at 7AM EST:
widespread high impacting event as it roars along
Quoting aquak9:
Thanks, Bord. Geeesh, guess I'll call an attorney and make out my will. This is gonna be a long year...

:)


Now, I didn't say this is a "2012 Storm to end all storms"!

JUST know in advance, that this system has all the ingredients to be a powerful system.

ALSO remember, the atmospheric dynamics MAY change, making the system a weaker L.
Quoting Bordonaro:


Now, I didn't say this is a "2012 Storm to end all storms"!

JUST know in advance, that this system has all the ingredients to be a powerful system.

ALSO remember, the atmospheric dynamics MAY change, making the system a weaker L.


I don't want to be an alarmist either, but it is my experience that when cold air meets warm moist air...uh...tornado outbreak.
724. unf97
Quoting Bordonaro:


That was an awesome way to describe our moderate and weakening Modiki El Nino.

We have a -NAO and a -AO, an an active Polar Jet and a active Sub-Tropical Jet.

I promise, I am NOT trying to be an alarmist, not trying to be a "Joe Bastardi-like" hypist.

HOWEVER, this storm system for 3/1-3/4/10 may be a very active, potentially dangerous storm.

When you have a closed Polar Low, move into the mild GOM, with an active, juicy Sub-Tropical Jet Stream, you truly have ALL the makings for a SUPER STORM!!!!


18Z GFS RUN SURFACE MAP 162HRS, TU 3/2/10 at 7AM EST:


Bordonaro,

What are the chances that this system could deepen enough to be mentioned with the March '93 GOM superstorm? I slightly hesitated to mention that because that storm was one of a kind, but, the dynamics look very impressive with this GOM system next week that it is a possibility that it could be comparable. But, of course, it's still early and things could change. Stay tuned!
Quoting CycloneOz:


In like a lion, out like a lamb...and then a July Cat 2 right up the gut.

Wouldn't it be interesting that the whole of 2010 was remembered for intense weather?
intense weather it shall be just for you oz
Quoting flibinite:
We're getting bombed here in Eastern New York. 5" of 8-to-1 wet snow already, closer to 10" just east of where I am, and expecting a foot before this winds down tomorrow.

But that's only the first storm. One is expected to blow up just off the DelMarva, then track north and even west to eventually sit right over our heads. I looked at the latest GFS model and it has the tightest band of isobars I've ever seen on an inland low in this area, so I'm imagining 60 mph wind gusts on Friday, with good only knows how much more new storm.

The local mets are refusing to even guess how much snow on Friday, in fact. I grew up 40 miles south of Buffalo, so I know snow and blizzards, but quite honestly, I'm a bit scared about this one, as the worst case scenario could be really awful, especially if people start losing power from the very heavy snow and big winds.

As a precursor, the commute home today was a total nightmare, and I've already had three friends text me that they were in fender-benders. :(

Jo


What county in NY do you live in?

Just BE AWARE that the NEXT system that will develop, has all the tools availiable to:

Possibly create widespread gale to possibly storm force winds (39-73MPH), especially along the coastline.

Possible wet, heavy snows of 8-20", blizzard/white-out conditions lasting >24 hrs in duration.

Possible widespread minor/moderate coastal flooding lasting >24 hrs in duration.

Possible large-scale power outages >24 hrs.

18Z GFS SURFACE MAP. FORECAST IS 54HRS INTO THE FUTURE, TH 2/25/10 @ 7PM EST (WHICH IS FR 2/26/10 at 00Z)**978MB JUST OFF THE NJ COAST**
Hoo-boy.

ok, how about a time frame, let's start with the western coast of Florida, or a little further west.

what are the featured courses, and who can expect what and when for this mess.


run for south
Quoting unf97:


Bordonaro,

What are the chances that this system could deepen enough to be mentioned with the March '93 GOM superstorm? I slightly hesitated to mention that because that storm was one of a kind, but, the dynamics look very impressive with this GOM system next week that it is a possibility that it could be comparable. But, of course, it's still early and things could change. Stay tuned!


At 180HRS out, 3/3/10, at 1AM EST, the 18Z GFS has this at 981MB off the SC coastline.

I would say there is a 25% chance this thing could intensify into a Super-Storm:


run for N.E
General statement.

This is a predicted forecast, out approx 7 days, this may or may not be exactly how this goes down!!!


Aquak9, at 156hrs, just off the W Coast of FL, an area of possible severe T-Storms approach N FL, GFS TU 3/2/10 at 1AM EST:


At 162hrs, over the N Central portions of FL, including Jacksonville, FL, GFS TU 3/2/10at 7AM EST:


once this stormy pattern is done warm spring air is on the way look to the west at the end of the run above freezing temp from top to bottom advancing west
confound it, Bord, I did NOT want this to be a nighttime event!!

and I don't even wanna think about the snow effect this is gonna have, further up the eastern seaboard.
the last storm that bo speaks of if plays out pulls all the cold winter air out with it on it move ne ward hearlding in first breath of spring
Quoting Bordonaro:


At 180HRS out, 3/3/10, at 1AM EST, the 18Z GFS has this at 981MB off the SC coastline.

I would say there is a 25% chance this thing could intensify into a Super-Storm:


Only thing is though, that's a superstorm for the Atlantic and not for the CONUS. Bad news for the Gulf Stream.
Quoting aquak9:
confound it, Bord, I did NOT want this to be a nighttime event!!

and I don't even wanna think about the snow effect this is gonna have, further up the eastern seaboard.


Remember, this is ONLY A COMPUTER FORECAST. We have 6 full days to watch this, RELAX!!!!

Models forecast this system will NOT affect the Eastern Seaboard!!
ahhh...I promise I'm totally relaxed. Just wanted to get an idea of the possibilities. I like Keeper's post best, heralding spring.

Bring it on.
Quoting Bordonaro:


Remember, this is ONLY A COMPUTER FORECAST. We have 6 full days to watch this, RELAX!!!!

Models forecast this system will NOT affect the Eastern Seaboard!!


yep

remember models are meant to be used for guidance purposes only and donot depict final outcome for any one single event things can and will change as event gets closer watch for updated info
Quoting aquak9:
ahhh...I promise I'm totally relaxed. Just wanted to get an idea of the possibilities. I like Keeper's post best, heralding spring.

Bring it on.

Good! We all, including the meteorologists, are keeping an eye on this upcoming event..
Wichita television stations are reporting that this is the first winter in which the temperature has stayed below 60 F in a period beginning in late November. there is no likelihood of the temperature reaching 60 through the end of the month.

B'sides...with 13-15 fully functional weather radios in the house (I lost count), I'm just gonna buy some earplugs.

Wake me when we're twelve hours out from a Cat 3.
Check out this incredible HD video camcorder!

Look! It's only about two inches long. It's already in the underwater case!



WOW!!!

Quoting StormW:








Good evening StormW! Hope all is well, good to see you back on the blog!

I cannot WAIT for this El Nino to go away. I live in the DFW, TX area, we have had 15.9" of snow this winter and we only need 1.9" this winter to set an all time record. Our weather records go back 112 years.

Right now, this is the 2ND snowiest winter on record, and winter is not over yet!
For us dullards, what do all your map postings mean Storm?
Quoting CycloneOz:
Check out this incredible HD video camcorder!

Look! It's only about two inches long. It's already in the underwater case!



WOW!!!

Oz, are those the boxes they came in? We use very small protected cameras in flight test but those are smaller than I've seen. Commercial-of-the-shelf or special order?
...also, what speed, i.e high? bet not but hoping.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
For us dullards, what do all your map postings mean Storm?


First map means the El Nino will be over by summer.

Second map shows the Tropical Atl/Carribean will be about 1C above normal.

Third map means there is little chance we will have higher than normal barometric pressures over the Tropics (enhances the chances for TS development).

Fourth map shows the average barometric pressures will be below average for the middle of Hurricane season!
Quoting Bordonaro:


First map means the El Nino will be over by summer. Second map shows the Tropical Atl/Carribean will be about 1C above normal. Third map means there is little chance we will have higher than normal barometric pressures over the Tropics (enhances the chances for TS development). Fourth map shows the average bearometric pressures will be below average for the middle of Hurricane season!


Thanks...a few bloggers post images and blogs that are way above a lot of us regular folk. Just take a few minutes and post with an explanation so all of us can understand what point you are making.
Quoting Bordonaro:


First map means the El Nino will be over by summer. Second map shows the Tropical Atl/Carribean will be about +1C above normal. Third map means there is little chance we will have higher than normal barometric pressures over the Tropics (enhances the chances for TS development). Forth map shows the average bearometric pressures will be below average for the middle of Hurricane season!

So in other words, batten down the hatches...
Actually...now is a good time to buy Hurricane supplies. Prices are low on radios, portable TV's, batteries, etc.
754. IKE
Quoting Bordonaro:


First map means the El Nino will be over by summer.

Second map shows the Tropical Atl/Carribean will be about 1C above normal.

Third map means there is little chance we will have higher than normal barometric pressures over the Tropics (enhances the chances for TS development).

Fourth map shows the average bearometric pressures will be below average for the middle of Hurricane season!


Could mean big trouble in the Atlantic. Time will tell.
Hello, everyone.

Just something to think about with these 2 upcoming Gulf lows. The GFS has had trouble all season with the track of the lows, even within 3 days of an event. I'd pay more attention to the ECMWF's track of the low, but maybe not quite as suppressed as it's predicting.

Strange winter we are having, though. Here in Hattiesburg, we have had 2 measurable snows (both 4+ inches), one snow without a trace and another snow forecast tonight with maybe a dusting. Really hard to believe we could have one, possibly two more measurable snows this weekend and early next week.
For you wrestling fans out there...and I know you are here...here is footage of The Undertaker catching on fire during last Sunday's PPV...Fire is weather related???

WWE banned the embed
Quoting IKE:


Could mean big trouble in the Atlantic. Time will tell.
Quoting quakeman55:

So in other words, batten down the hatches...

No, in other words keep a CLOSE eye on the Tropics!!
Quoting IKE:


Could mean big trouble in the Atlantic. Time will tell.

The 2009 Hurricane season could not get a TD started for nothing!

I am concerned the 2010 Hurricane season may be similar to 2005.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Actually...now is a good time to buy Hurricane supplies. Prices are low on radios, portable TV's, batteries, etc.


Hand up in the air. I have a question? hello?
Does anyone know where I can buy a Portable HDTV???? only cause my old one does not work on regular TV now....

Thanks
Taco :0)
Quoting IKE:


Could mean big trouble in the Atlantic. Time will tell.

Here this song is most appropriate!!
Quoting Bordonaro:

The 2009 Hurricane season could not get a TD started for nothing!

I am concerned the 2010 Hurricane season may be similar to 2005.


I hope not. Wilma changed my life forever. Approaching us from the west coast, I thought nothing of it. She ripped my roof off. I use to get excited about Hurricanes approaching so. Fla. Not anymore.
Quoting taco2me61:


Hand up in the air. I have a question? hello?
Does anyone know where I can buy a Portable HDTV???? only cause my old one does not work on regular TV now....

Thanks
Taco :0)


Link
This may help...
Link
Quoting NttyGrtty:
Oz, are those the boxes they came in? We use very small protected cameras in flight test but those are smaller than I've seen. Commercial-of-the-shelf or special order?

The big box is packaging. The small box just barely bigger than the camera is the mount & weather proof housing. I mount 1 of these on the roll bar in my track car, pretty good performance
Quoting taco2me61:


Hand up in the air. I have a question? hello?
Does anyone know where I can buy a Portable HDTV???? only cause my old one does not work on regular TV now....

Thanks
Taco :0)


Most of the wholesale clubs have them for around $100 US. The biggest difference is some have a slightly bigger screen and most importantly, battery life and type :)

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=451524

http://web.consumerreports.org/digitalcameras/v2/index.html?EXTKEY=SG72E00&CMP=KNC-CROELECG&HBX_OU=50 &HBX_PK=digital_cameras_reviews
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


I hope not. Wilma changed my life forever. Approaching us from the west coast, I thought nothing of it. She ripped my roof off. I use to get excited about Hurricanes approaching so. Fla. Not anymore.

I hope that this years Hurricane Season is a tame one, I wish noone any harm whatsover!

I had the pleasure of seeing 115 MPH straight-line wind gusts in 1988.

THAT SCARED ME SENSELESS!! Nothing like seeing large tree limbs, garbage pails, lawn furniture, everything not tied down going flying through the air!!

And yes, the wind sounded like a jet engine!
Thanks all for the information..... I just want to be ready before this Hurricane Season starts....


Taco :0)
speed? i.e. if you roll, can I use the camera data to determine why? By the way, thanks for the response...
Quoting transitzone:

The big box is packaging. The small box just barely bigger than the camera is the mount & weather proof housing. I mount 1 of these on the roll bar in my track car, pretty good performance

You run SCCA?
Quoting Bordonaro:

I hope that this years Hurricane Season is a tame one, I wish noone any harm whatsover!

I had the pleasure of seeing 115 MPH straight-line wind gusts in 1988.

THAT SCARED ME SENSELESS!! Nothing like seeing large tree limbs, garbage pails, lawn furniture, everything not tied down going flying through the air!!

And yes, the wind sounded like a jet engine!


Hurricane Gilbert?
Quoting Bordonaro:

I hope that this years Hurricane Season is a tame one, I wish noone any harm whatsover!

I had the pleasure of seeing 115 MPH straight-line wind gusts in 1988.

THAT SCARED ME SENSELESS!! Nothing like seeing large tree limbs, garbage pails, lawn furniture, everything not tied down going flying through the air!!

And yes, the wind sounded like a jet engine!


Wilma was the first time I actually saw my sliding-glass door windows "bowing in". It was horrible. Hearing the west-side of my townhouse collapse was not pleasant. If you are in a Hurricane prone zone..get shutters!
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


Hurricane Gilbert?

No, one of the WORST thunderstorms complexes that EVER hit the Dallas-Ft Worth, TX Metropolitian Area.

It was a FIERCE line of Severe Thunderstorms, that moved slowly across the area.

There were WIDESPREAD wind gusts up to and exceeding 115 MPH.

I believe the highest unoffical gust reported was 127 MPH, in Ft Worth, TX on the KXAS-TV CH 5 anenometer.

I almost couldn't believe, sustained winds of 85-95MPH, then the wind gauge would spike between 105-127MPH, this went on for 1 hour!!

Trans, thanks, Oz, WU mail, any details would be appreciated...out
just popping back in- ya'll are having such a pleasant interaction, couldn't help but say THANK YOU.

Ahhh..the calm before the storms...

g'nite friends
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Wilma was the first time I actually saw my sliding-glass door windows "bowing in". It was horrible. Hearing the west-side of my townhouse collapse was not pleasant. If you are in a Hurricane prone zone..get shutters!


Even worse! I live in Arlington, TX, in the middle of the dreaded "Tornado Alley"! We have about 10 or so EF-1 to EF-3 tornadoes hit in or around our Metro area every year.

I live 5 minutes away from where an F-4 Tornado hit, back in 2000. Wind speeds were estimated at up to 160-170MPH. Complete 2-story homes were ripped apart, while the house across the street was 100% untouched! I saw 1/4" plate glass windows completely shattered on a 4-story office building, insulation and blinds ripped out, the tractor trailer rigs, the 46' trailers flipped around like tinker toys, insulation was carried 2 miles and wrapped up in the 64K Volt towers. Several towers were ripped apart.

That was the same tornado that hit Downtown Ft Worth, TX at about 6:15PM CST on 3-28-2000 and did $500,000,000 in damage in 4 minutes!!

I drove through downtown Ft Worth, TX 1 week after the F-2 tornado, I could not believe the damage, it looked like a war zone!!
Still working with the new camera. Very interesting stuff!

I've figured out how to mount it to my very speedy German short-haired pointer. She's cool with it hanging from her neck. I had to put an extension on the housing so that it hangs lower (her mid chest). The camera is mounted upside down.

Now, I'm uploading the camera's firmware. In the upgrade is a patch that allows me to have the camera upside down, yet capture right side up.

When "I release the hounds" tomorrow...I'll upload the results of Experiment "DakotaCam" and post it. She's mighty fast.

BTW: Before letting her run loose with a brand new $300 camera that's intended for human use, I'm going to be dang sure everything is secure and "lost proof."
I made the mistake of just having my HOA insurance coverage. I lived in a motel for three months while my home was being rebuilt. I applied for FEMA aid...and received nothing. I now have extra insurance. Please double-check your policies.
Oz...if a Cat. 5 threatens...you are going to put a cam on your dog to get good footage?
Well, June 1st is fast approaching.
96 days now.
781 -- Hummm, all ya need are the straps OZ -- then you see through their eyes :)

The NWS Dallas-Ft Worth, TX snow reports from earlier today:
NEW 00Z NAM RUN, 850MB TEMPS/6 HR PRECIP, FR 2/26/10@ 00Z, A 984MB LOW OFF OF EASTERN LONG ISLAND:
WHAT A BIG WOUND UP NOR'EASTER
Quoting atmoaggie:

You run SCCA?

F&C and Start for SCCA. Steward, instructor, safety, operations, etc for PCA, BMWCCA, NARRA, RA, et al. Race licenses currently expired
Quoting transitzone:

F&C and Start for SCCA. Steward, instructor, safety, operations, etc for PCA, BMWCCA, NARRA, RA, et al. Race licenses currently expired

Cool. My pop runs a Miata at No Problem (near NOLA), Memphis, Road Atl...
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
TampaSpin -- the language is slanted in your poll.

Also I saw that part of my screen-name was used in infamy, LOL, i.e., "Maryland" -- so my apologies to MarylandGirl, who is another blogger!

Slanted language -- let's start with "yell against."

Who yelled against the USA hockey team? Not in my house.
Did I cheer both teams? Yes.
Was I sort of rooting for Canada? Yes.
Why? Because hubby was rooting for the USA, and a bit of rivalry is fun. Our marriage has not been damaged in the least.
Was I sad when the USA won? Not really; I was just a little sad for Canada.

Let's take it further with another hypothetical situation. Actually, it's not hypothetical, it happens all the time.
I'm a Terp. Duke creams the Terps in basketball.
Am I sad, irritated, frustrated? Well yeah, no duh.

Does that make me anti-Duke? Only when they play Maryland!
Duke has a great team and coach. I respect and admire them. I will cheer for them when they are NOT playing Maryland.

Life is WAY more complicated and there are many more shades of grey that bringing it down to being "American" or "Un-American" when cheering for an Olympics team!

I have a friend who has dual-citizenship, as I'm sure many of us do. If it is the USA vs. the other citizenship, wouldn't it be more fun if we each took a country and rooted for them?

I think you took this American and anti-American way too far -- I thought you were kidding me -- I thought it was a jest when you said I was anti-American for rooting for Canada in hockey. Even though we've disagreed on some issues I thought our conversations had always been friendly -- gosh, somehow saying I hoped Canada wouldn't hold the loss against us REALLY tripped your trigger!

You seem to be serious! That is downright frightening to me. I'd be insulted, too, if it was worth being insulted, but it's not.

Also, and now I'm serious and I'm not intending to be mean or sarcastic... if you are going to design a poll, ask an expert how to design one without inflammatory language.

I think, although I'm not an expert, the second question should read something like:
"You are not a bad American if you root for another country's sports' team."

Sorry, your poll (below) is just NOT a good, fair, well-structured or well-written poll!

Thank you for voting!
It Is UN-American to yell Against the USA Team 43% (3 votes)
It is American to yell Against the USA Team 57% (4 votes)
Total Votes: 7


Oh favourite post of the year. :)
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Oz...if a Cat. 5 threatens...you are going to put a cam on your dog to get good footage?
no no he's gonna strap the cam to his hurricane helmet which is part of his survival suit in which has straps on the back of so he can be attached to flagpole and float up with surge so he can show us what it looks like only thing he needs is a red flashing lght on top of helmet so we can see him in the live upload viedo he will be broadcasting live over the internet


lol
Quoting Orcasystems:


Oh favourite post of the year. :)


you'll be happy to know that I regularly wear a shirt that says "Vancouver, Canada" on it haha

friend went there for vacation and brought me a shirt
Quoting tornadodude:


you'll be happy to know that I regularly wear a shirt that says "Vancouver, Canada" on it haha

friend went there for vacation and brought me a shirt


I have a bunch of American warship hats and lighters.. we used to trade all the time :)
Quoting StormW:


Yea...he'll be right next to Jim Cantore.


Where does he put the EPIRB
Quoting Orcasystems:


I have a bunch of American warship hats and lighters.. we used to trade all the time :)


that is definitely cool :P
In regards to the Tuesday low form NWS JAX

WITH EVENT A WEEK AWAY
NOT TOO MANY MORE DETAILS KNOWN AT THIS TIME...BUT COULD HAVE MAJOR
IMPACT AND HELP TO BRING IN MARCH LIKE A LION!

Quoting tornadodude:


that is definitely cool :P


There used to be a bar in San Diego (Bernies, bottom of Broadway) that had every lighter made for American and Canadian warships... and quite a few others... very impressive display.

Quoting Orcasystems:


There used to be a bar in San Diego (Bernies, bottom of Broadway) that had every lighter made for American and Canadian warships... and quite a few others... very impressive display.



that would be great to go sea that
Quoting tornadodude:


that would be great to go sea that


Now this is not a pun......
I think its closed and gone now... because of a fire.
Quoting Orcasystems:


Now this is not a pun......
I think its closed and gone now... because of a fire.


that's sad, would have been great to go visit
To be honest I dont even know how you define "Being American"
802: Methinks you got the wrong impression of that blogger. Overly liberal, he is not. Patriotic, I am under the impression that he is quite so.
GoPro HD Hero Camera Setup UPDATE:

Testing the camera tonight has shown two real issues:

1) The patch to set the camera upside down but record right side up is not yet available. That means I have to rotate the video manually in my editor. HASSLE!

2) The camera records MPG4. Adobe Premiere can't read MPG4! That means I have to convert the MPG4 to .AVI before I can edit. HASSLE!

Other than that so far...pretty cool gadget!
Quoting CycloneOz:
GoPro HD Hero Camera Setup UPDATE:

Testing the camera tonight has shown two real issues:

1) The patch to set the camera upside down but record right side up is not yet available. That means I have to rotate the video manually in my editor. HASSLE!

2) The camera records MPG4. Adobe Premiere can't read MPG4! That means I have to convert the MPG4 to .AVI before I can edit. HASSLE!

Other than that so far...pretty cool gadget!


Oz, see strap set up for the FiDo cam in post 785. MPEG4 is a better compression than AVI, just my take. All the professional surveillance stuff I provide is based on H.264 right now.

Ya may want to upgrade your software :)
Quoting CycloneOz:
GoPro HD Hero Camera Setup UPDATE:

Testing the camera tonight has shown two real issues:

1) The patch to set the camera upside down but record right side up is not yet available. That means I have to rotate the video manually in my editor. HASSLE!

2) The camera records MPG4. Adobe Premiere can't read MPG4! That means I have to convert the MPG4 to .AVI before I can edit. HASSLE!

Other than that so far...pretty cool gadget!


This sounds vaguely familiar, something my daughter was doing. I think she found a fix for it. I googled "adobe premiere mpeg4" and saw a couple of things. Give it a look.
Quoting Skyepony:
Insurance cover for coconut palms


I apologize in advance for way, way off topic and political in nature, although not in reality.

This is too coincidental. I was just thinking about health care and the increase in CA that is being jumped on.

Actuarial science hasn't changed in forever. Reason being is it is rock-solid math. Book I learned from in college was 50 years old.

Insurance is completely based on it. Bad actuarial scientists, you fail. (no, I do not do that for a living, although I could).

Too many feel they get screwed, but in reality (prefaced on no govt involvement), the numbers are the numbers. 2+2=4 or it doesn't.

Without actual analysis of the numbers, if young people are dropping due to the economy, the affect on the math is huge. And completely valid.

Here is my big beef, given the math, I have (or my parents have) been paying in since I was born.

Why should someone be able to not pay in for 40-50 years and then when there is a problem, all of a sudden get the same benefits as me?

It's insanity, mathematically speaking.

Why wouldn't everyone just wait until there was a problem?

I would have if that were the system and will advise my children of the same if it is the case. Don't get it until you're at least 30 (rough... I'll do the math before advising my children).
Oh, and Bordonaro, CCR wins by a landslide. ;)
Please forgive my indulgence on this topic, but I would like to share a personal real-life scenario (I used to have another regarding dental, but this is my new favorite).

Wife needs an MRI every year. Were I simply paying a co-pay I would not care, but I shop insurance (iirc, 3 years is the most I've had the same carrier).

Claustrophobia not an issue in this scenario.

Open MRI = $1200.

Closed MRI = $900.

Call the open MRI place and, imagine that, owner agrees to $800.

See that happen with co-pays and/or govt run. Not going to happen.

Competition is the key to highest quality at lowest cost. Take that out and you pay $1 per minute to make a phone call from NY to CA, as it used to be.
813. Prgal
Hi everybody. I need an opinion and I know you guys here are amazing at forcasting. I need to fly out of Pittsburgh. There are a couple of systems in play. What would be the worse/best time to leave between Thursday and Friday? TIA
Quoting Prgal:
Hi everybody. I need an opinion and I know you guys here are amazing at forcasting. I need to fly out of Pittsburgh. There are a couple of systems in play. What would be the worse/best time to leave between Thursday and Friday? TIA


You might want to try Blizzard92's blog for an answer to this. The winter folks hang there quite a bit, although it is getting late, but worth a shot.
815. Prgal
Thanks!
I have a feeling places like NYC will possibly top their all-time daily record snowfall thurs-fri.
BRRRRRRRRRRRRR....................
22/02/2009




22/02/2010


2010 very warm it start

What we will have in this huracanes season is big!
Quoting StormW:
Here are some common abbreviations and acronyms you will see in my hurricane forecasts, and on WU in general. Figured I'd post them in case anyone wnats to copy them down:

AMO: Atlantic Multidecadal Osillation
ATCF: Automated Tropical Cyclone Forecasting system
BOC: Bay Of Campeche
CATL: Central Atlantic
CARCAH: Chief, Aerial Reconnaissance Coordination, All Hurricanes
CDO: Central Dense Overcast
CFS: Coupled Forecast System & Climate Forecast System
CISK: Conditional Instability of the Second Kind
CMC: Canadian Meteorological Center
CONUS: CONtinental United States
DOMREP: DOMinican REPublic
EATL: East Atlantic
ECMWF: European Center for Medium range Weather
Forecasting
ENSO: El Nino/Southern Oscillation
EWRC: EyeWall Replacement Cycle
FROPA: FROntal PAssage
GANTSEC: Greater ANtilles SECtion
GFDL: Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory
GFS: Global Forecast System
GOMEX: Gulf Of MEXico
HWRF: Hurricane and Weather Research Forecasting
IRT: In Reference or In Rgeard To
ITCZ: InterTropical Convergence Zone
IVO: In the Vicinity Of
LLC: Low Level Circulation
MCC: Mesoscale Covective Complex
MJO: Madden Julian Oscillation
MM5: FSU Mesoscale Model
MSLP: Mean Sea Level Pressure
MEI: Multivariate ENSO Index
NAM: North American Mesoscale Model
NAO: North Atlantic Oscillation
NCATL: North Central Atlantic
NEWD: Northeastward
NHC: National Hurricane Center
NOGAPS: Navy Operational Global Atmospheric Prediction
System
NWD: Northward
OBX: Outer Banks (N.C.)
ONI: Oceanic Nino Index
QBO: Quasi Biennial Oscillation
PDO: Pacific Decadal Oscillation
SAL: Saharan Air Layer
SEUS: SouthEast U.S.
SLOSH: Sea, Lake, and Overland Surge due to Hurricanes
SOI: Southern Oscillation Index
SPC: Storm Prediction Center
SSD: Satellite Services Division
SWEAT: Severe WEAther Threat
SWWD: Southwestward
TCPOD: Tropical Cyclone Plan Of the Day
THCP: Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential
TUTT: Tropical Upper Tropospheric Trof
UKMET: United Kingdom METeorological office
ULL: Upper Level Low
WW3: Wave Watch 3 model.
UTC: Universal Time Coordinated (also known as Zulu time)
XTRP: Not a model. Short for Extrapolation. Dead reckoning plot of a storm if it kept in a straight line, with no other forces acting upon it


Thanks StormW. Very helpful info.
good morning looks like its the northeast's turn
Quoting doabarrelroll:


Led me shed some light on this. I recieced in email form TampaSpin where he explained to me in his yoda-ish way why it is "un-american" to root for "against your home country" I explained to him that it is more American to protest. At which point I used our nations founding fathers as an example fighting or "rooting against" their home country of Great Britain. Which prompted him to say this,

Whatever ........i think they came to America .......to become American and fought to be an American and defend America.....which is what i am doing unlike your very Liberal views.....sorry you have to see an American flag on some occasions.

Which is the dumbest thing I ever heard



How is that statement so hard for you to understand......our Founding Fathers Came to this Land and established American beliefs as they fought for those beliefs and will defend the American idea they established for those beliefs.......Sorry i am so stupid and did not spell out the meaning much clearer....I have had many relatives that have lost their lives fighting for the Country that i love far more than most.....the idiots like some that have a difficult time understanding what a Patriot American some are, i am sorry to wave my Red, White, and Blue so proud. Sorry for Loving the Country i love so dearly and wish others just understood that!
Sorry if i have hurt Someones feelings and wrote what one says was a dumb statement .......i guess i am just a Dumb American and would happy to be labeled as such.
Quoting atmoaggie:
802: Methinks you got the wrong impression of that blogger. Overly liberal, he is not. Patriotic, I am under the impression that he is quite so.


Thank You very much. At least someone understands! Liberal i am not and yes Patriotic i am. Thanks!
Anybody on here that lives in either C and S FL really needs to be aware of the potential DANGER late Mon. and early Tuesday. We could be looking at Tropical storm force winds with higher gusts, heavy flooding rains, and severe wx (possibly tornadoes). Some models have indicated that we could have pressure as low as 994 to 996 milibars with the low as it crosses Tampa or just north of there (maybe Cedar Key). These models will be key the next few days.
GoPro HD Hero Testing UPDATE:

Other than the two problems I mentioned in an earlier post, the cameras seem to be pretty awesome.

The wide angle lens is amazing. The mounts for the camera are strong, but I need to order mounts built for bikers so I can put the camera on my ATV.

Low light functionality is tolerable. Batt charge rate is tolerable. File size created in 1280 X 720 HD is tolerable.

As soon as I can, I'm hooking it up to my German shorthaired pointer and let her run.

If the camera doesn't bounce much, I should get some neat footage. The dog is fast!
Quoting Jeff9641:
Anybody on here that lives in either C and S FL really needs to be aware of the potential DANGER late Mon. and early Tuesday. We could be looking at Tropical storm force winds with higher gusts, heavy flooding rains, and severe wx (possibly tornadoes). Some models have indicated that we could have pressure as low as 994 to 996 milibars with the low as it crosses Tampa or just north of there (maybe Cedar Key). These models will be key the next few days.

If it passes through or north of Tampa S Fl willbe fine. its N Fl and Central Fl that needs to be aware.
1. They Did not come here. They were born here.
2. I Love this country too. It took my parents in from Cuba and allowed them to be successful and raise a family in a safe niegborhood. I resent the fact that you say its un american to question the authority of yoru country. I am patriotic too. And if they time came to die fo rthis country I would. So who are you to cast any judgement on ANYONE. You are under the false impression that liberals do not love america.
if anyone says this H season will be weak guess again ppl factors to watch did u remember in january th blow up of t storms near africa and the warm sea surface temp and d dying el nino and how about now just recently the model hints i had remember reading on a website that 2010 might be d last of active seasons to come and if this was to be the case i am sure it will be deeeevaaassttaating d sea surface temps are much warmer than 2005 and 2004 of course its not being supersticious but just lookin at d factors that contribute to hurricane formation
Quoting doabarrelroll:

If it passes through or north of Tampa S Fl willbe fine. its N Fl and Central Fl that needs to be aware.



S FL will be in this threat as well a track near Ceday Key will put the whole penisula under a big risk for severe wx. The key will be how much instability will be in place. Will we moisten the atmosphere up enough?
Quoting doabarrelroll:
1. They Did not come here. They were born here.
2. I Love this country too. It took my parents in from Cuba and allowed them to be successful and raise a family in a safe niegborhood. I resent the fact that you say its un american to question the authority of yoru country. I am patriotic too. And if they time came to die fo rthis country I would. So who are you to cast any judgement on ANYONE. You are under the false impression that liberals do not love america.
AIM is obviously not in yet or you both would be getting the "boys! play nice!" by now...
Quoting TampaSpin:


How is that statement so hard for you to understand......our Founding Fathers Came to this Land and established American beliefs as they fought for those beliefs and will defend the American idea they established for those beliefs.......Sorry i am so stupid and did not spell out the meaning much clearer....I have had many relatives that have lost their lives fighting for the Country that i love far more than most.....the idiots like some that have a difficult time understanding what a Patriot American some are, i am sorry to wave my Red, White, and Blue so proud. Sorry for Loving the Country i love so dearly and wish others just understood that!
Sorry if i have hurt Someones feelings and wrote what one says was a dumb statement .......i guess i am just a Dumb American and would happy to be labeled as such.


Is there any other country in the world where people are proud to be dumb? And we are supposed to be proud of that?
Quoting NttyGrtty:
AIM is obviously not in yet or you both would be getting the "boys! play nice!" by now...


I am sorry you are right.
You are corrct. I did not think about that. Si there a chance this could become tropical?
Here's a great weather education site I just saw this morning:

Jetstream: An online school for weather


Wow, that's a great resource!
twc was running a short story of the hurricane hunters down in sw florida they were lucky charlie further intensified into a cat 5.. they would of had nothing to hide behind.
GoPro HD Hero Helmet Cam - "DakotaCam" 1st Test

Video quality will improve to HD. Wide-angle lens is working.

Quoting leftovers:
twc was running a short story of the hurricane hunters down in sw florida they were lucky charlie further intensified into a cat 5.. they would of had nothing to hide behind.


If thats luck... you can have it :)
Quoting Orcasystems:


If thats luck... you can have it :)


Yeah, I'm kinda thinking that cat 4's aren't a day at the park...

Hugo (1989)
Donna (1960)
Charley (2004)
Lake Okeechobee storm of 1928
Fort Lauderdale storm of 1947
Carla (1964)
Ivan (2004)
Hazel (1954)
Audrey (1957)
Quoting leftovers:
twc was running a short story of the hurricane hunters down in sw florida they were lucky charlie further intensified into a cat 5.. they would of had nothing to hide behind.


Charley was only a Cat 4.

Hurricane Charley
Quoting TampaTom:


Yeah, I'm kinda thinking that cat 4's aren't a day at the park...

Hugo (1989)
Donna (1960)
Charley (2004)
Lake Okeechobee storm of 1928
Fort Lauderdale storm of 1947
Carla (1964)
Ivan (2004)
Hazel (1954)
Audrey (1957)


Luckily... I have never been on Dry land for a Cat 1 or bigger. Most Navy's are smart that way... and run for deep water as quick as we can :)

That being said... they are not much fun in deep water either.
Hey Brian!! Don't eat the yellow snow!!
I'm driving from Alabama to New Hampshire either Thursday, Friday, or Saturday ...

I'm hearing various things about a noreaster and 1 foot + snowfalls along part of my path. Any thoughts on which day I should go?
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Hey Brian!! Don't eat the yellow snow!!


Yeah...when Dakota paused facing the sunrise, she was taking care of business. LOL

But that shot she got shows how good the video is coming out of the camera.

The audio is another matter. I get poor audio when in the waterproof casing, with alot of popping sounds from the case. I was not able to use the live audio from the camera from Dakota's test.

Another delivery to my house is scheduled for today. It is a Minox DMP-3 Audio Recorder. Since it is USB powered, I will hook it directly to the "big batt" I use for the live web cam and stow it in the tupperware that holds the live web cam equipment. I'll have an audio cable come out of the tupperware to a shotgun microphone.

When I test this set up, my hope is that once it is powered on and recording, I can forget about it. The "big test" will be 12 hours of non-stop recording to a single file. I will then take the file and break it down into single hours.

The HD camera lets you set date and time. So the theory will be that if I write down when I start the audio, I'll be able to marry both audio and video using time.

That's the plan. My testing with the camera is very nearly over already. I'll work with mounting strategies and such a bit, but overall, I'm satisfied with my initial results from working with it.
847. beell


DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0625 AM CST WED FEB 24 2010

VALID 241300Z - 251200Z

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS OVER SRN AND E CNTRL FL...

...SYNOPSIS...
IN RESPONSE TO CLOSED SYSTEM AMPLIFYING SEWD INTO THE OH VLY...
EXPECT POSITIVE-TILT TROUGH NOW OVER THE NW GULF OF MEXICO TO
ACCELERATE E ACROSS THE N CNTRL AND NE GULF LATER TODAY...BEFORE
CONTINUING NEWD OFF NC CST EARLY THU. AT THE SFC...WEAK WAVE NOW
EVOLVING ALONG STALLED/DISJOINTED FRONT W OF KEY WEST SHOULD MOVE
NEWD INTO S FL LATER TODAY. THE WAVE LIKELY WILL BE JOINED BY
ADDITIONAL SFC DEVELOPMENT FARTHER NE...ALONG FRONTAL SEGMENT N/E OF
LK OKEECHOBEE. THE LATER WAVE SHOULD BECOME DOMINANT BY EARLY
AFTERNOON...AND SHOULD ACCELERATE NEWD OFF THE CST LATE IN THE DAY.

...SRN/E CNTRL FL...
TSTMS HAVE FORMED OVERNIGHT IN ZONE OF STRENGTHENING WAA/MOISTURE
FLUX ALONG AND N OF STALLED FRONT S OF THE FL KEYS. THIS ACTIVITY
SHOULD INCREASE AND SPREAD NEWD AS WRN GULF UPR TROUGH CONTINUES
EWD. ADDITIONAL STORMS LIKELY WILL FORM LATER THIS MORNING THROUGH
EARLY AFTN INVOF AFOREMENTIONED SFC WAVE OVER SERN/E CNTRL FL...AND
PERHAPS SWD ALONG CSTL CONVERGENCE ZONE TO NEAR MIA....AS SWLY
LOW-LVL FLOW INCREASES TO A0A 30 KTS.

PROXIMITY OF 120+ KT ZONAL SUBTROPICAL JET...ASSOCIATED 60+ KT WLY
MID LVL FLOW...AND WEAK LOW-LVL LINEAR FORCING WILL FAVOR DISCRETE
OR SEMI-DISCRETE SUSTAINED STORMS/SUPERCELLS. COMBINATION OF SFC
DEWPOINTS IN THE MID TO UPR 60S F...PW AOA 1.25 IN...RESIDUAL EML
/PER 12Z MIA SOUNDING/...AND MODEST SFC HEATING SHOULD YIELD SBCAPE
OF 500-1000 J/KG BY EARLY AFTERNOON. THE STORMS MAY THEREFORE POSE
A THREAT FOR SVR HAIL...LOCALLY DMGG WIND...AND PERHAPS A TORNADO OR
TWO.
THE THREAT SHOULD END BY EARLY EVENING AS THE LOW-LVL FLOW
VEERS AND THE STRONGEST LOW-LVL CONVERGENCE SHIFTS OFFSHORE.

REFER TO MCD #144 THAT WILL BE ISSUED SHORTLY FOR MORE INFO ON
NEAR-TERM CONVECTIVE TRENDS.

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0144
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0630 AM CST WED FEB 24 2010
Very Interesting Read from TIME that Sites Dr. Masters.

Another Blizzard: What Happened to Global Warming?
Quoting newt3d:
I'm driving from Alabama to New Hampshire either Thursday, Friday, or Saturday ...

I'm hearing various things about a noreaster and 1 foot + snowfalls along part of my path. Any thoughts on which day I should go?

Umm... go the day you can get a flight. ;)

Best place to check would be Blizzard 92's blog (covering the mid-Atlantic) or Sullivanweather's blog, covering the NE. Both stay very current, and I have found that both have excellent, easy-to-understand information.
Quoting jeffs713:

Umm... go the day you can get a flight. ;)


Flying would be nice, but then my car would be stuck down here w/o a home :)

It looks like you're right though, it's gonna be a nasty drive.
Quoting newt3d:


Flying would be nice, but then my car would be stuck down here w/o a home :)

It looks like you're right though, it's gonna be a nasty drive.

No worries. The storm will be hitting the NE hard tomorrow from what i've seen, so leaving Friday would likely be best. Check out the two blogs I mentioned, they can likely give better guidance. Also, what part of NH are you moving to? My best friend lives in Windham, and I have another good friend that lives in Londonderry.
Quoting jeffs713:

No worries. The storm will be hitting the NE hard tomorrow from what i've seen, so leaving Friday would likely be best. Check out the two blogs I mentioned, they can likely give better guidance. Also, what part of NH are you moving to? My best friend lives in Windham, and I have another good friend that lives in Londonderry.


New London, which I believe is nowhere near those two places :)

The good news is there will be a fresh layer of snow on Mt Sunapee when I get there.
Storms are starting to build off the coast of st. Pete here

Storms are building off of St. Pete/Tampa area here...

Whoops here it is:

Quoting newt3d:


New London, which I believe is nowhere near those two places :)

The good news is there will be a fresh layer of snow on Mt Sunapee when I get there.

Its actually not that far. Londonderry is right by Manchester (and actually where the Manchester airport is), and Windham is between Nashua, NH and Boston.