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No new news on Vince or Puerto Rico disturbance

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:36 PM GMT on October 10, 2005

The low pressure area that formed near Puerto Rico this morning is now north of the island. No increase in organization has happened today, and wind shear remains high enough--20 knots--that no development can occur until Tuesday at the earliest. The low continues to bring heavy rain to Puerto Rico and the surrounding islands. Most of the global computer models continue to predict that a tropical storm will form from this disturbed area of weather later this week and move north to threaten Bermuda.


Figure 2. Current radar out of Puerto Rico shows some banding developing in association with a low to the north of the island.

Vince
Vince is headed east towards Portugal, and is still holding together in the face of 22 C water temperatures and 30 knots of wind shear. The cold water and wind shear will destroy Vince by tomorrow, before he can hit land. Vince recently passed over a buoy that measured a central pressure of 996.7 mb. Vince's remains will bring heavy rain and 30 mph winds to southern Portugal on Tuesday.


Figure 1. Hurricane Vince at peak strength, Sunday October 9, 17 GMT. Image credit: Navy Research Lab, Monterey, CA.

Stan
There is no new news on Stan's death toll today, which remains in the 1000 - 2000 range. Most of these deaths occurred in the Lake Atitlan area.

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My next update will be Tuesday at 9:30 am EDT.

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Lefty where are you?
ignoring u wannabe. ur not worth my time. thanks any way
NHC holding Vince at TS strength.
Hey all:

Read this interesting journal article on a warm-core cyclone over Lake Huron. (Click "print-version" to see the full document).
Lefty - g o mex - what happened there bro? You were so certain about your forecast.
lefty how many times will you have to be discredited before you act with a little humility?
lefty - come on bro that HUGE ego can't take much more. Why are you SO wrong SO often?
Leave Lefty alone...otherwise we might get Stormtop back.
Is the weatherwannabe vs lefty debate still in motion? Has it generated a warm core?
No warm core...just hot air and cool comments.
Interesting. The 12Z GFS and NOGAPS are taking the Puerto Rico development and moving it almost due north over Bermuda and then into Cape Cod/Maine/Canadian Maritimes. Expect a lot of Flintstones references among the media of the Northeast corridor later this week.
000
WTNT43 KNHC 102049
TCDAT3
TROPICAL STORM WANNABE DISCUSSION NUMBER 3
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT MON OCT 10 2005

PRELIMINARY SATELLITE HAS INDICATED THAT TROPICAL STORM WANNABE HAS MADE LANDFALL OVER JEFF MASTERS'S BLOG! IT WILL STRENGTHEN TO A MASSIVE CATEGORY 6 MONSTER AS IT PASSES OVER LEFTY'S POSTS AND WILL BE IN POSITION TO DESTROY THE INTERNET! EVACUATE THE WUNDERGROUND BLOGS IMMEDIATELY!

FORECASTER SMOE
$$

(a joke.....please don't kill me)
Would love to see satelite photos of the Huron "hurricane" that phelp mentions. Anybody have one?
There are photos if you click "Print version", though they're contained within a PDF.
accuweathers winter forcast is out and shows what we have all been saying. another winter like 1996 could be headed towards the mid-atalnti and south east.

Link
I don't trust accuweather...
FROM THE 530 PM ADVISORY...

THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF FORMER SUBTROPICAL DEPRESSION TWENTY-TWO
IS LOCATED ABOUT MIDWAY BETWEEN BERMUDA AND THE OUTER BANKS OF
NORTH CAROLINA. SOME MODERATE THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS REDEVELOPED
SOUTH OF THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER... AND NEARBY SHIPS INDICATE WINDS OF
30 TO 35 MPH ARE OCCURRING JUST EAST OF THE CENTER. WHILE
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY UNFAVORABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT...
THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REMAIN A SIGNIFICANT LOW
PRESSURE AREA AS IT MOVES NORTHWEST TO NORTHWARD AT 20 MPH.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE FOUND IN HIGH SEAS
FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE OCEAN PREDICTION CENTER UNDER AWIPS HEADER
NFDHFSAT1 AND WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC.
**OUTLOOK**
It sounds like we may be talking about SD 22 again soon.
ok mr.wannabe...since you want to be the big cheese around here, answer me my question, normally I would ask Lefty.

What is the Cayman Trench and how does it affect the weather in the caribbean, if at all??
23. dcw
Now that would be weird. Vince, forming after SD22, gets the first name, and 22 gets Wilma?

11:30AM Advisory from TornadoTony, who is now a forecasting partner at the AHC:

AMATEUR HURRICANE CENTER
TROPICAL DEPRESSION VINCE ADVISORY #4
11:30 AM EDT MON OCT 10 2005

...VINCE QUICKLY WEAKENS TO TROPICAL DEPRESSION STATUS...

AT 11:30 AM EDT, THE CENTER OF VINCE WAS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 35.0 N... 13.9 W... OR ABOUT 185 MILES NORTHEAST OF THE MADEIRA ISLANDS.

THE AHC ESTIMATES THAT THE WINDS HAVE DROPPED TO 35 MPH.

THE ESTIMATED PRESSURE BY THE AHC IS 1006 MB.

I THINK THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT VINCE DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. HOWEVER...SINCE THERE IS A SURFACE CIRCULATION AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH VINCE...I AM GOING TO KEEP IT AS A DEPRESSION. I FULLY ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL DISSIPATE WITHIN THE NEXT TWELVE HOURS.

FORECAST:
INITIAL: 35.0 N 13.9 W 30 KTS
12 HRS: DISSIPATED

Followed by an update at 5PM:

VINCE HAS DISSIPATED. ITS REMNANT'S WINDS ARE ABOUT 25 MPH. NO ADVISORY OR FORECAST IS NEEDED ON THIS SYSTEM.

My 11AM Advisory, and also my final one:

Tropical Depression Vince
Amateur Hurricane Center
11:00 AM EDT

Northwesterly shear has finally done Vince in. Satellite imagery shows that the low-level center of Vince is no completely exposed...and the system no longer qualifies as a tropical cyclone.
The storm should continue eastward, continuing to accelerate, and bring heavy rains and gusty winds to Portugal, Spain and eventually Italy as it speeds eastward in a frontal zone.
As Vince is no longer a tropical cyclone...this will be the last advisory.\

Initial: 30kt...Dissipated




/filter/spam/squelch....= weatherwannabe what a nuisance
25. dcw
TROPICAL MORON LEFTY
5:00 PM 10/10/05
DISCUSSION

THE 500EDT ADVISORY FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER INCIDATES THAT TD25'S HOT AIR HAS INCREASED TO MORE THAN 34KT...AND IS NOW UPGRADED TO TROPICAL IDIOT LEFTY. OF GREATER CONCERN, HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT LEFTY WAS WRONG, THE END TIMES ARE COMING. WE THEREFORE WILL (ONE LAST TIME) FOLLOW LEFTY'S PREDICTIONS AND CALL FOR 100813 CATEGORY 5 HURRICANES IN THE ATLANTIC WITHIN TWO DAYS.

FORECASTER BOB

Haha, couldn't resist that. It was entirely a joke, Lefty, so don't get mad at meh.
Dcw, I PMed you on your site.
27. dcw
Convection in the southwestern Caribbean concentrating. Next storm?
The models have been saying that forever, dcw. I think we need to watch it and the remnants of SD 22.
that accuweather.com winter outlook is really ominous for the northeast/mid-atlantic......
30. dcw
I think we're the only two people on.

*goes to see what GFS has to say*
It's ominous for our Midwestern drought, Weathermandan. I'll trade you.
lol

if SD 22 redevelops...I'm guessing it'll probably hit here? (LI, NY) that's about where the track took it originally
YES SIR WANNABE STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER, iF YOU WANT TO GET ON PAR WITH LEFTY YOU HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. IF NOT SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE....
ok THEN, BACK TO YOU lEFTY....

what is the cayman trench and how does it affect the weather in the caribbean if at all????
To Weathermandan- I would watch it for sure.

To missyjj55- Even though pie hole was my word for these people, I will let you use it for weatherwannabe.
I'm with you missy. Left has a love for weather and researches and provides educated opinions. Seems that former STD 21+ will move N and then NE.
Thank you tornadoty
tornado, dcw, good to have you here again. I'm watching and watching the area we mentioned yesterday (Bahamas-Cuba) and although everybody seems to assure that nothing threatens south FL at this time, I see the low pressure and convection around Nassau plus westwardly winds. Am I seeing ghosts after looking at that point too long??? LOL
Also the area dcw talks about is the beginning of some bad storms at this time of year.
westerly winds I man... lol just can't even tell east from west :)
this is what I'm looking at...
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float2-bd-loop.html
weathermandan, what do you think about the upcomming winter in the SE? I've been saying that we should have the right conditions for a good snowfall here, but we had somewhat the same conditions last year, but nothing but a little ice
lefty, since you are the expert around here, and yes I'm new at posting, but I have been lurking for about 2 yrs now, I think the blob in the Carib. will get to "storm" status. but I don't think it will hit anywhere. Still need to watch, as anything goes!!! Do you agree?
Well....this blog hasnt changed......keep it up guys and their wont be a blog......
LakeWorthFinn, I'm still watching the ULL that former-SD 22 is revolving around. Convection has gradually grown closer to the center. It still, IMO, might develop.
hello all - just catching up - to the person asking about fishing at the Kure Beach pier - getting ready for drum which are starting to come in - we've got excellent fishing, especially in the fall! It's been wet, wet, wet - kinda drowned our annual Fall Jazz & Seafood Festival this past weekend - but since someone oddly chose the Atlanta Rhythm Section (jazz...blues...???) I almost venture Tammy did us all a favor. We got 13+ inches of rain this past week & our water table is maxxed. Beach has been closed due to high coliform counts at Kure Beach pier. Just up the road in Carolina Beach (claim to fame the closest fresh water lake to ocean in US) the lake is covering several surrounding blocks & further up the road in Wilmington there has been flooding in all the usual places as well as some unexpected ones.

We have a moat at the end of the cul-de-sac - fed by an overfull but nonstinky stormdrain that occasionally bubbles - seding up small fountains of water - a la 3 stooges. No association w/vehicles driving over it.

Blue roofs help up well in the rain - the neighbors who opted for tarpaper repairs after Ophelia did not fair well at all - note to self - use blue tarps if roof damaged.
We are watching the disturbance over Puerto Rico w/some trepidation - we're soaked!
Welcome sunshinestate!!!
Just asking wannabe, I enjoy everyone's input!!
buckeyefan1 that's more info than was needed
This site use to be fun...not anymore....Sorry about your buckeyes.....The only area worth talking about is near puerto rico and its heading out to sea. Vince is about gone......Eventually, something will form in the western carribbean....It usually always does in october....it also is climatilogically favored. We probably will have to wait for something like that....an OPAL like storm perhaps......


Have a good evening......
Not funny anymore; enough with the insults, they're getting real pointless.
the more you know the better you are! :)
Listening, is sometimes the best for getting the information that you want
Thanks everyone!!! Yea I didn't like the loss either, but now you stand a better chance on the Championship!! LOL
Well, nothing new here. I see wanabe has still not grown a brain.
This blog needs a cleaning.
tornado thx, I'll keep reading all comments
You guys have to lay off lefty(y) or he's going to reincarnate STORMTOP again.
quick update on the pr system

latest gfs shows it more and more likley it will be a fish storm. the track has shifted even further east. still waiting to see the next model runs of all the global models so should know more around 100am. this system if it forms will likley be a hybrid or subtropical system. will likely get named but will not be to strong. but its still early as the system has yet to form and track is speculation at this time
Don't forget Lefty, according to Dr. Gray, we are still due to see one more major this season.
yeah torn. not saying season is over, just saying it won;t be this system lol. hybrid at best mainly threat to bermuda is my best forcast as of right now. will know more when the rest of the global models come out late tonight
As I've been predicting, the next area of interest that could possibly threaten US landfall will be forming in the SOUTHWEST Caribean. There's something brewing down there. Pressures are dropping.
I personally think the major will form in the western Caribbean, such as Mitch did in 1998. Just a hunch.
cosmic pressures are droppinf casue there is a weak low down there. its forcasted to dissipate in 36-48 hrs and be no threat toform

right now it looks like after this pr system the tropicas will be quiet for atleast 7-10 days. so little lull i guess. we will have to see
Cosmic, I didn't even read you're entry before I posted mine. I guess we're thinking the same way.
weathermandan, what do you think about the upcomming winter in the SE? I've been saying that we should have the right conditions for a good snowfall here, but we had somewhat the same conditions last year, but nothing but a little ice
^where are you exactly? and sorry it took me so long to answer, I was out
Boy I miss Stormtop and his predications.
Lots of shear in the southwest Caribbean.....though the northwest is only 5 (but no convection)....
Progressive, you out there. Sorry, signed off last night and just got back to the hotel from work. Lefty, or anyone else with "real knowledge" (thanks for your input as always Lefty!), please look at last nights blog and give me some education on what I saw. Late last night around 12:30 or 1:00, don't know how to input it from there :) Thanks Lefty, as I have repeatedly said to the trolls, "you da man".
I'm with torn and cosmic, just a hinch too. There's something in the air and it's not 'love'. But I am a chick, we're allowed to be less scientific = use facts and intuition LOL By the way lefty, I appreciate your inputs too.
code i saw ur posts and i think it was just a weird formation due to windcurrents at the surface in tha moist air that lead to that heavy fog. weird yes but nothing special. its like seeing weird cloud formation that has no meaning basically. just wicsh u had a camera as some pics probly be awsome lol
they've issued a gale warning for some of the ocean waters by me

Link

waves up to 14 feet and wind gusts over 45 mph with whatever's left of SD 22..
I like high levels of wind shear.
I like high levels of wind shear.
75. dcw
I like double posting
76. dcw
I like double posting
I cant generate winds that strong otherwise they would have continued it as a sub td.
MORICHES INLET NY TO MONTAUK POINT NY OUT 20 NM-
FIRE ISLAND INLET NY TO MORICHES INLET NY OUT 20 NM-


4 to 6 Ft seas. That's a good fishing day there!

I only recently moved to Fl. Had a 34ft cruiser on the Sound.
I miss LI just a bit. But Love it in Fl (Tampa Bay)
Just call it an ocean storm,this 'it is a fish storm' crap is gettin old lol/
jed it can egenrate that strong winds specially with a string high building to its north. the fact it lost its convection and its charecteristics was why it was declassified but per the mhc outllok it is still a signafcant low

AND NEARBY SHIPS INDICATE WINDS OF
30 TO 35 MPH ARE OCCURRING JUST EAST OF THE CENTER. WHILE
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY UNFAVORABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT...
THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REMAIN A SIGNIFICANT LOW
PRESSURE AREA AS IT MOVES NORTHWEST TO NORTHWARD AT 20 MPH.
Up to 8 ft is a fall day Off Montauk.

I came down from Ct to West palm 3 years ago we had 35 MPH onshoue winds all the way down. Had to go inside In Jersey Stayed inside &* Up the Delawarebay to the C&D & back down the Chessee. poped oit @ St Augustine & got in 8 to 13 footers 'till Canaceral. What an awakening!
Cape Canaveral*
How come NHC hasn't come out with their 8:05 PM discussion? or is it just my computer...Link
hello all i would like to thank wannabe leftyy and all the other people that have mad this blog a funny place i have laughed my butt off reading all the posts lol keep up the good work lol
Hello all... =)
LOL I guess we have a bit of a replacement for STORMTOP.
There seems to be a convective blip several hundred miles east of Venezuela on the IR. Shear is apparently low in the area, and 850 HPa cyclonicity is marginally positive. Not to read too much into this, but I wonder...
hecker, there is a low near pr helping to generate that convection. that low is forcasted to develop in to a cyclone in 36-48 hrs.
11:30AM Advisory from TornadoTony, who is now a forecasting partner at the AHC:

AMATEUR HURRICANE CENTER
TROPICAL DEPRESSION VINCE ADVISORY #4
11:30 AM EDT MON OCT 10 2005

...VINCE QUICKLY WEAKENS TO TROPICAL DEPRESSION STATUS...

AT 11:30 AM EDT, THE CENTER OF VINCE WAS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 35.0 N... 13.9 W... OR ABOUT 185 MILES NORTHEAST OF THE MADEIRA ISLANDS.

THE AHC ESTIMATES THAT THE WINDS HAVE DROPPED TO 35 MPH.

THE ESTIMATED PRESSURE BY THE AHC IS 1006 MB.

I THINK THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT VINCE DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. HOWEVER...SINCE THERE IS A SURFACE CIRCULATION AND A FEW THUNDERSTORMS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH VINCE...I AM GOING TO KEEP IT AS A DEPRESSION. I FULLY ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL DISSIPATE WITHIN THE NEXT TWELVE HOURS.

FORECAST:
INITIAL: 35.0 N 13.9 W 30 KTS
12 HRS: DISSIPATED

Followed by an update at 5PM:

VINCE HAS DISSIPATED. ITS REMNANT'S WINDS ARE ABOUT 25 MPH. NO ADVISORY OR FORECAST IS NEEDED ON THIS SYSTEM.

My 11AM Advisory, and also my final one:

Tropical Depression Vince
Amateur Hurricane Center
11:00 AM EDT

Northwesterly shear has finally done Vince in. Satellite imagery shows that the low-level center of Vince is no completely exposed...and the system no longer qualifies as a tropical cyclone.
The storm should continue eastward, continuing to accelerate, and bring heavy rains and gusty winds to Portugal, Spain and eventually Italy as it speeds eastward in a frontal zone.
As Vince is no longer a tropical cyclone...this will be the last advisory.\

Initial: 30kt...Dissipated ....WANNABE NHC FORECASTERS LOL.
happily for portugal they need it with their fires in the forest
Anyone know how much snow they need in breckenridge to open early?
Leftyy you've got mail
18 more bodies added to Katrina death toll in Louisiana
Since Friday
They are going to find bodies until every house that was flooded is raised.
Hey Hecker,

I've been watching that blip myself... I'm from Grenada and since Ivan and Emily I'm wary of anything that looks too menacing passing our way...
I'm not sure that i get the connection between the low around PR and that blip (if we're talking about the same blip) as per lefty's suggestion

oh man were is all the laughts lol
Dr. Lyons said that the low out est of the islands could become a system, but that it is stationary.
*east*
I like caneman's posts---he should be called caveman...I know he's out there lurking all the time, but he always makes me laugh when he posts--
Hey caneman, how's the Treasure Coast weather this evening?
Seriously lefty(y).....why be so insistent on folllowing the models, which have been more like mudels lately? Why stay up till 5AM for the early morning GFS run? It's just not the time of the year for this. Your forecasting abilities, whatever they may be....might be better served at this time for "thinking outside of the box". That PR blob that you're so insistent on....even if it forms....what consequence is it to anyone here...unless we have relatives in the merchant marines. Why not take a look at that thing that's percolating in the southwest Caribean?
finally soem actin thanks cosmic and keep up with the events
first cosmic i am here talking bout anything that forms opr looks to be forming as its what ilove. not just whats to an impact to some one in this blog

next casue nothing will form in the sw carribean for atleast 5-7 days thats why. but thats why i have my opinion and you have urs
yeah the comeback having fun now
Allright...i tried. We're both entitled to our own thoughts. I respect your's....and I guess the fish near Bermuda do too. I do think you're right that something will spin up near PR before something spins up in the SOUTHWEST Caribean.
cosmic why wont u talk to me
Whoa... Vince is strengthening? O_O
Hey Lefty, read this:

Link

Vince has strengthened a little and is going to landfall in Portugal or Spain as a tropical storm!
boldman....because:
1. This is not a chatroom...it's a tropical cyclone blog, and
2.Because others who I respect have tried talking with you....and..............
.
PR is having disastrous flooding now. I've lived through that flash-flooding when a whole mountainside slid down. It was a no-name system. I wonder if this will be as bad...
I found a PR live stream cam but it was down do to the weather:(
Vince should be named In-vince-ible instead!

Still no clear picture of the Puerto Rico system?

Like my football picks, I think I'll stick with a long-shot prediction that the system will form further to the S and W than the models guess. Declining shear, a surface low appearing to stretch westward, high surface temps, and ready outflow channels, if I'm reading things right.

But then my wife's pool standing is better than mine......
Zap
113. dcw
HUH??? STRENGTHENING???

Alright, who hacked the satellite?
I've reinitiated my advisories on Vince:

Link
THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF FORMER SUBTROPICAL DEPRESSION TWENTY-TWO
IS CENTERED ABOUT 240 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST THE OUTER BANKS OF
NORTH CAROLINA AND IS MOVING NORTHWESTWARD AT 15 TO 20 MPH.
THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY CONTINUES TO DEVELOP INTERMITTENTLY JUST
SOUTH OF THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER. ALTHOUGH ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS
ARE CURRENTLY UNFAVORABLE FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT TO
OCCUR... UPPER-LEVEL WINDS MAY BRIEFLY BECOME A LITTLE MORE
FAVORABLE DURING THE DAY TUESDAY AS THE SYSTEM PASSES OVER THE
WARMER GULFSTREAM. THIS MAY ALLOW THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP OVER OR
NEAR THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER... WHICH WOULD ENABLE THE SYSTEM TO
BRIEFLY STRENGTHEN INTO A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT
MERGES WITH A FRONTAL SYSTEM JUST OFF THE U.S. EAST COAST.
well, lefty, I think once again you will be proven wrong. Forecasting is easy just predict the opposite of Lefty. LOL

wannabe what are u talking about. what i just posted was from the 1030 outlook from the nhc.

if ur talking about the pr system ok but i have just been stating what the models ahve been saying. all the global models
next casue nothing will form in the sw carribean for atleast 5-7 days thats why. but thats why i have my opinion and you have urs
lolonce again wannabe i am stating whatall theglobalmodels say and no cyclone forms in the sw carribean for 5-7 days, maybe longer but i am not willing to trust the models more than 5-7 days out. so if i am wrong for stating what the globalmodels say. sue me lol
If I recall "someone" said that this blog needed cleaning.....it needs to start with wannabe....quit being a smart-mouth pain in the a$$ delinquent..you are the reason everyone ignores you.

WAY TO GO LEFTY !!! THANKS FOR THE INFORMATIVE POSTS !
ur welcome prettyeyez
Lefty. do you know what the Cayman Trench is? and is it of any importance in the weather in the caribbean?
yeah i know what it is and i think it has little affect on the weather. the hot water in the carribean is quite deep. but not all the way to the sea florr so even if the sea floor was deeper it wouldhave no effect as the important part of the watter column is the first 100-200 meters. which is quite warm in the carribean
Thanks Lefty. The north coast of Jamaica gets the most rain, I had wondered if the trench had any thing to do with it.
hello all, tornadoty, I read your blog about Vince hitting Europe, but it looks like maybe it is going to hit Morocco
anyone know anything about the circulation well north of Puerto Rico about 28N 67W?
thats a ull
dang i go and miss all the fun lol keep up the good laughts wannabe prettyeyes and leftyy
WHERE DID EVERYONE GO?
Posted By: weatherwannabe at 3:35 AM GMT on October 11, 2005.

next casue nothing will form in the sw carribean for atleast 5-7 days thats why. but thats why i have my opinion and you have urs

I assume the above was a quote from Lefty.

Wannabe,
Are you too stupid to understand what opinion is? And could you have any less common sense?

SJ
Be home in about an hour and a half.

Thank goodness. Bad night at work.
hi junkie
sj i just got 20kills 4 deaths at zanzibar. and i been drinkinglol. be in the game when u get home
oh crap leftyy been drinking lol and smoaking 420 lol
sooo anyine here besides the circus
Posted By: weatherwannabe at 1:12 PM PDT on October 10, 2005.
anyway, this blog is great for laughs. Lefty sits here all day and night watching every fog bank from Texas to Africa. There is the hourly inevitable "we got a new monster forming" post follwed by hundreds of worthless observations about nonexistent recon and poorly interpreted satellite pics to follow until Masters makes a new professional post that discredits everything for the last 5 hours. Then you all start al over. LOL - I love this blog
Posted By: weatherwannabe at 1:12 PM PDT on October 10, 2005.
anyway, this blog is great for laughs. Lefty sits here all day and night watching every fog bank from Texas to Africa. There is the hourly inevitable "we got a new monster forming" post follwed by hundreds of worthless observations about nonexistent recon and poorly interpreted satellite pics to follow until Masters makes a new professional post that discredits everything for the last 5 hours. Then you all start al over. LOL - I love this blog
Be nice Jeff.

"circus" = not nice. And anywho that is the pot calling the kettle black.

Nice on Zanzi. Think I had some issues with my cable last night. Digital cable kept on freeze framing and breaking up in to those little squares and stutter talking. Don't think that was all of my problem last night, as I was tired and had played a good bit too, but I think the cable glitch thing was a part of the problem. Hope it is better tonight.
hey stom so back from work gosh aint it great to be single lol
but storm what did the kettle call the pot
well storm g night ill leave this for you to thin kon lol
Posted By: weatherwannabe at 1:12 PM PDT on October 10, 2005.
anyway, this blog is great for laughs. Lefty sits here all day and night watching every fog bank from Texas to Africa. There is the hourly inevitable "we got a new monster forming" post follwed by hundreds of worthless observations about nonexistent recon and poorly interpreted satellite pics to follow until Masters makes a new professional post that discredits everything for the last 5 hours. Then you all start al over. LOL - I love this blog
The kettle was not a name caller Jeff.
Jeff and wannabe are the same person.
Lefty?

Dr. Masters, this blog needs a limit on total posts per user per day. I think I speak for many when I say that it gets a little old having to shift through hundreds of the posts a few posters which are utterly irrelavant to the purpose of the blog. Lefty, StormJunk et al we don't need to know or care about your Xbox playing or substance abuse problems. You may not realize this but this is not your personal IM site. Please be respectful of those who are here to dicsuss weather.
Wake up sniff the coffee, a new day is here. No systems in the pipe so maybe its time for some more random questions

weatherwannabe,

I agree with you in part, however you faced with having a general area that would die out when a storm is around (or die out because people prefer this one). Modify this blog so that you can filter out posts based on a personal ingore list (big undertaking). Do what you said in limiting the amount of times a user could post, but how would you make it so a user couldn't simply create a new account and post. Lastly we could leave it along and for better or worse relish the great online community we have.

Ulimately its the good Doc's choice.
Kudos Orion.
Lefty and weatherwannabe once had a legitimate beef with each other. Lefty posted big pics, cool for people with wideband access, but for people with dial-up, it made this blog unusable. So links seems like a good compromise. I don't see the big pics anyomore, but as usual on the internet, bad feelings linger on.

These flamewars attract trolls like BS attracts flies. Picture Mr. BoldMAN (?), little troll hiding behind his keyboard, making fun of everyone here. He likes the pointless argument, it gives him a chance to show his "wit", makes him feel, you know, BOLD.

Lefty can seem a little overbearing, but I think that is his enthusiasm showing though. One thing about Lefty, he has his internal ignore list, but he is nice enough to answer you if you address him. weatherwannabe, why not just put lefty on your "internal ignore list"; after all you can just skip reading his posts, as long as he doesn't post any more large images?

And "don't feed the trolls", ignore them and they will be gone in a day or tow.
guygee,

Think I could make some money by selling Troll-Off, Troll-Guns, Troll-Cages, Troll Bait and the Troll Detector 9000?

Orion -LOL, instant multi-millionaire if you could mane some Troll-Off or Troll-Guns, or Troll-Cages. USENET treid to invent alt.flame as a troll cage, but it didn't work, the buggers just bred in there then spread across the globe.
Orion - I'll take one of each.
Guygee,

That was not a bright idea, don't you know never put 2 trolls in the same area not matter what the sex they will breed profilicaly (sic). And NEVER EVER feed them after midnite (LOL)
Oh yea I forgot one item. The best for last

.50 Cal Troll Sniper rifle with smartlink and aimbot support, has upgradable firmware with a wireless connection to download the last troll list via Trolltorrent. Scope has the ability to see thur fake id's, multi-ids (ie two people flaming that are actually the same person), whinning and my favor can blow thur flamewar armor (requires special ammo sold seperatly).

Now with designer cases and stocks..

If you want one please post your credit card information here

(LOL)
Orion - I'll take two.
orion - Now you're really on to something! Please let me in on the IPO!
New post by the Doc up, and I let you in on the IPO. I start auctioning stocks on here later today.. (LOL)
How interesting. Our Blessed Mother Mary could be drawing our attention to a key apparition location - Fatima, Portugal.
The prophecies of Fatima are still awaiting conclusion.
So, how apt! http://www.fatima.org

Or it could just be an oddball storm.