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Mighty Post-Christmas Nor'easter wallops the Northeast U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:07 PM GMT on December 27, 2010

A major blizzard continues to pound New England with heavy snow and winds gusting to near hurricane force as the 976 mb low tracks slowly northeastward into the Gulf of Maine. The snow has mostly ended across New York City and the mid-Atlantic, where snowfall rates as high as 3 - 4 inches per hour occurred during "thundersnow" snow squalls at the peak of the storm late last night and early this morning. At the height of the storm, blizzard warnings were in effect for the entire U.S. coast from Maryland to Maine. The heaviest snows fell about 50 miles to the west and north of New York City. Lyndhurst, New Jersey, located about 15 miles northwest of New York City, got 29 inches, and several nearby towns also reported snows in excess of 24 inches. Though the snow has mostly ended in these regions, strong winds will continue through the early afternoon, creating blizzard conditions in blowing snow.


Figure 1. Satellite image from 8am EST December 27 of the Post-Christmas Blizzard of 2010 over New England. Image credit: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center.

The blizzard is in full swing across much of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Maine, where snowfall rates of 1 - 2 inches per hours are common in heavy snow bands, with high winds creating blizzard conditions. The strongest wind gust from the mighty blizzard was 80mph, measured at Wellfleet on Cape Cod at 10:52pm last night. Wind gusts of 50 - 60 mph have been common along most of the coast of Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Southeast Massachusetts. The storm's strong northeast winds whipped up a storm surge of 2 - 3 feet that affected the coast just north of Boston, and in Central Long Island Sound, during the high tide cycle at 3am this morning. Moderate flooding that shut many roads occurred, and some damage to buildings probably resulted. The flooding danger for Massachusetts and Long Island Sound is now past, as the storm moves into Maine and Canada.

Snowfall amounts at major cities for the December 26-27, 2010 storm, as of 8am EST:

Newark, NJ 20.0"
Atlantic City, NJ 19.0"
East Boston, MA 16.5"
Ocean City, MD 13.5"
NYC Central Park, NY 13.0"
Philadelphia, PA 12.4"
East Providence, RI 12.0"
Danbury, CT 11.1"
Augusta, ME 10.0"
Woodstock, VT 10.0"
Bridgeport, CT 8.0"
Boston, MA 6.5"
Wilmington, DE 3.4"

An unusual Nor'easter for a La Niña year
This winter, we are experiencing La Niña conditions in the Equatorial Eastern Pacific, meaning that cold waters have upwelled from the depths off the coast of South America, cooling a huge region of Pacific waters to below-average levels. In most winters, the presence of La Niña acts to deflect the jet stream in such a way the the predominant storm track takes winter storms into the Pacific Northwest, then down through the Upper Midwest and Ohio Valley. According to Dr. David A. Robinson, the New Jersey State Climatologist and Chairman of the Department of Geography at Rutgers University, this sort of flow pattern keeps New England safe from Nor'easters, as storms tend to move from the Ohio Valley northeastwards into Canada, keeping New England in a warm southwesterly flow of air. However, today's storm defied climatology, and gave the mid-Atlantic and New England one of their worst poundings on record for a La Niña Nor'easter. It was the first storm in at least ten La Niña winters, dating back to 1970, to bring 10" of more of snow to New Jersey, according to Dr. Robinson. In Philadelphia, which got 12.4" from this storm, the National Weather Service stated that only one La Niña winter in the past century has had a storm that dumped more than 10" of snow on city--a December 1909 Nor'easter. The reason for the unusual Nor'easter this year is that it happened to get started right when the atmosphere was transitioning from one major flow pattern to another. Since late November, we have been locked into a pattern featuring very weak low pressure over Iceland, and weak high pressure over the Azores--a strongly negative North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and Arctic Oscillation (AO). This pattern, which has allowed a lot of cold air to spill out of the Arctic and into the Eastern U.S. and Western Europe, is now breaking down and transitioning to a very different winter pattern. This new pattern will feature a more typical configuration for winter, with the Icelandic Low and Azores High close to their usual strengths. Today's Nor'easter managed to sneak in just as the atmosphere was transitioning from one major flow pattern to a new one, resulting in the rare La Niña snowstorm for New England. The new winter flow pattern looks to stay in place for at least the first two weeks of January, resulting in warmer than average winter weather for both the U.S. East Coast and Western Europe.

Jeff Masters
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Reader Comments

A well wound storm, the Cardinal photo is a nice contrast to the snow but that is one pale bird.
There were reports of snow in several places in Fla on the 26th as the storm went though. Tallahassee, Lake city, Gainesville and Jacksonville are a few that I have heard. Officially Jacksonville will go on record I think.

Looks like just a trace was reported.
Big storm. Nice update.
I have to disagree about the NAO returning to a more normal state since it is forecast to remain negative and actually strengthen for the next week:



Also, the CPC forecasts below average temperatures - over virtually the entire U.S. a week from now - in the next two weeks (6-10 and 8-14 day outlooks):

I can't say I'm sad out east has all the snow. They can keep it. I thought it was dumb to move the football game to Tuesday though. As if a game should get moved because of heavy snow.
The storm coming in the beginning of the year is still looking as bad or worse.

Some unusual if not model unresolved stuff going on in the GoM the first of the year too.
Wrong Dr. Masters, it is 962 mlb!! Unisys has the pressure at that!



Quoting fireflymom:
A well wound storm, the Cardinal photo is a nice contrast to the snow but that is one pale bird.
It's a female. Lol
The only change that I can see is that the PNA has become neutral from a negative state, and this negative state coincides with the period of cold and snow in the U.S. and Europe, but the PNA isn't supposed to do that; indeed, Europe sees virtually no anomalies (invert for negative phase) from the PNA, and in the U.S., a negative PNA favors warmer than normal temperatures over the Southeast:



If Dr. Masters is really referring to the "Warm Arctic-cold continents" pattern, then this suggests that it isn't so related to the Arctic Oscillation or NAO and it should be tracked as a separate climate pattern.
The first photo really shows the effect of the wind. Horizontal snow! The other two are beautiful Christmas card shots. The cardinal is a female, therefore much paler than the male. She looks great considering.
Thanks Jeff, no snow made it to the FL panhandle beach but Atlanta had their first white Christmas in 125 years...
O_O That's one impressive nor'easter!
I want snow :P
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I was at Pensacola beach on the 25th and the winds were very impressive that night. The locals said it happens occasionally but I thought it was rather incredible and was surprised the power did not go out.
Good morning.
Public Information Statement
Statement as of 9:43 am EST on December 27, 2010

Below are some morning low temperatures and freeze durations from selected sites across east central Florida for Monday, December
27th.

====================================================================

Official ASOS location low this
morning:

Daytona Beach (volusia) 28 (7 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Leesburg (lake) 30 (6.5 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Sanford (seminole) 29 (6.5 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Melbourne (brevard) 31 (3 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Orlando Intl apt (orange) 30 (3.5 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Orlando exec apt (orange) 30 (4 hour at or below 32 degrees)

Vero Beach (indian river) 31 (2 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Fort Pierce (st. Lucie) 27 (6.5 hours at or below 32 degrees)

=====================================================================

Cooperative stations - overnight lows through 7 am, December 27th:

Melbourne WFO (brevard) 31

Scottsmoor (brevard) 24

Plymouth (orange) 28

Ponce Inlet (volusia) 29

====================================================================

Fawn sites
(university of Florida agricultural weather sites, rural locations)

Okahumpka (lake) 29 (5.5 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Umatilla (lake) 28 (8 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Avalon (orange) 30 (4.5 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Kenansville (osceola) 30 (3 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Pierson (volusia) 31 (5 hours at or below 32 degrees)

Ft. Pierce (st. Lucie) 30 (3 hours at or below 32 degrees)


JF, while it didn't snow, it was, as my Dad once put it, "butt cold!". Last time it flurried here was 1986ish (I think)...
Quoting fireflymom:
A well wound storm, the Cardinal photo is a nice contrast to the snow but that is one pale bird.

It's a female. Lol
Down here the females are Brownish not that pale color. Learn every day.
If it wasn't because is late December, that system by the north west coast of Columbia looks suspissious, to say the least. Weird!!!
Cutting away from the Superstorm a bit, this deserves an Invest tag!

Quoting jurakantaino:
If it wasn't because is late December, that system by the north west coast of Columbia looks suspissious, to say the least. Weird!!!


ASCAT just missed it lastnight. I'm hoping we get a pass this morning. It's got no model support.


The wind knocked over the 30' x-mas tree on Lake Eola, near Orlando.

That fire a little SW of me looks easily twice the size it did lastnight on radar.
Complete Update





Pressure just dropped again to 961 mlb. Just one milibar up from the Storm of the Century, what a History making day this could be if we get one or two more drops in pressure!!!!


Accuweather says it's weakening, but in reality, the storm is continuing to strengthen in pressure.
I give the Superstorm a low chance at surpassing the pressure of the 1993 Superstorm, it has or is very near reached it's peak. It can happen though.. This is a history making storm.
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:
O_O That's one impressive nor'easter!
I want snow :P
Go to NY or Boston or somewhere, the north pole.... do NOT bring that nasty stuff here....

:/
Read it & weep.. Almost looks like the surface feature has already slipped off into the EPAC.

26. Inyo
Burlington Vermont seemed to have mostly missed this storm but in the last hour we are getting a raging snow squall with wind around 30 MPH from the north, heavy snow, and a wind chill of -8F. Yikes!

I won't mind a bit of 'warmer than average' after this but I hope the snow doesn't get ruined.
Morning all.

It's "but cold" here too, comparatively speaking; only 61 degrees at NOON!!!! I have to go out, eventually, but I really don't want to...
Hmmmm.... speaking of GW.... is this early winter blast the earth's way of blasting back at the equatorial warming we've been seeing?????

lol
They should name Nor'easters to keep us from being bored during post/pre-season.
Quoting Inyo:
Burlington Vermont seemed to have mostly missed this storm but in the last hour we are getting a raging snow squall with wind around 30 MPH from the north, heavy snow, and a wind chill of -8F. Yikes!

I won't mind a bit of 'warmer than average' after this but I hope the snow doesn't get ruined.
all the snow that fell will turn to water before the end of next weekend TRY TO CLEAR OFF STORM COVERS AND CATCH BASINS in your area nearby to your home remember if you are closest to the drain flooding is yours first to deal with



thanks for update doc
Baha...Nooooooo!...too late, can open, worms everywhere...it's just a matter of time
What a storm. Air pressure got down to 988.1 mb in New Brunswick!
i know its a freak of nature having a strong ne er during a la nina but its happened. wont be surprised it happens a couple more times this winter.
That Nor'easters pressure is equivalent of a low end Category 3 hurricane. Amazing!
I am snowed in!!!! help!
Quoting fireflymom:

Down here the females are Brownish not that pale color. Learn every day.

Same here in the north - the males are quite pale in winter, the new plumage in spring will be back to standard
37. JRRP
Niña Modoki
38. JRRP
That little blob off Columbia's coast is rather intriguing given that we are almost to January. It will most likely get ripped apart though.
I usually lurk but thought I'd share a clip someone posted on Blizzard's blog. Amazing.
http://vimeo.com/18213768
Quoting Skyepony:
Read it & weep.. Almost looks like the surface feature has already slipped off into the EPAC.



Hmm, a late-season basin crossover via Panama?!

Quoting BahaHurican:
Hmmmm.... speaking of GW.... is this early winter blast the earth's way of blasting back at the equatorial warming we've been seeing?????

lol


Again, see here.

Quoting CybrTeddy:
They should name Nor'easters to keep us from being bored during post/pre-season.


In some cases, they do. Link
Quoting DEKRE:
Quoting fireflymom:

Down here the females are Brownish not that pale color. Learn every day.

Same here in the north - the males are quite pale in winter, the new plumage in spring will be back to standard


Well..I'm with the pale male thought there....my females( I'm actually watching both at the feeder now) are never that color, but rather with beautiful burnised brown wings and a golden/tan breast. Only the males have black around the beak....That one looks like a juvenile pale male....lol....Boy ! I must be really bored.....:0
Seems like the heat being released from the Atlantic and Pacific oceans are playing a role in the current weather patterns. Large masses of heat (anti-cyclones) keep pushing north, displacing the Arctic air mass over land. Luckily for North America, it's been headed in the other direction most likely due to a much smaller longitudinal size. I'm sure most climate models do not take this into account, but the air masses should be mixing at a higher rate in the future.


45. Inyo
Quoting RichardRamirez:
Snowy Precipitation Is Detrimental, Even Ruinous. I'm Stuck. Hope Everyone Remains Enlivened.


'spider is here' ? Are you that troll from before?

From where I sit I can see snow streaming onto the Adirondack high peaks. Very pretty but not a good day to be up there
45 here north of Orlando and going to maybe 80 by Friday. Truely amazing to see this type of temp swing in one week. Also appears FL is heading into a warm and fairly wet period starting later this weekend in North FL and spreading into C and S FL next week as storm after storm moves thru the Southern Branch. Janaury is looking very El-Nino-ish with the active southern jet taking over.
Most of the time a major pattern change is proceeded by a major storm. The East Coast happened to be on the wrong side of this storm. It looks like by the weekend the storm will be just a memory with the possibility of 50 degree temperatures!
Quoting Jeff9641:
45 here north of Orlando and going to maybe 80 by Friday. Truely amazing to see this type of temp swing in one week. Also appears FL is heading into a warm and fairly wet period starting later this weekend in North FL and spreading into C and S FL next week as storm after storm moves thru the Southern Branch. Janaury is looking very El-Nino-ish with the active southern jet taking over.


Kudos to you Jeff! This is the most strongest storm since the 1993 Superstorm with a pressure of 961 mlb. Good job on your prediction.
Quoting skubaaruba:
Most of the time a major pattern change is proceeded by a major storm. The East Coast happened to be on the wrong side of this storm. It looks like by the weekend the storm will be just a memory with the possibility of 50 degree temperatures!


This is a storm people will remember for a while, not just a memory. METS won't forget it, almost tied with the 1993 Superstorm pressure wise.
Quoting reedzone:


This is a storm people will remember for a while, not just a memory. METS won't forget it, almost tied with the 1993 Superstorm pressure wise.


Wouldn't be surprised if I don't remember this storm next week. Thats probably because though it didn't bring a massive Dehrico to my area.
Ug. Need I remind all the METS on here that there was a better pressure this year?

On October 26th and 27th, two areas of low pressure merged over northern Minnesota forming a intense extratropical cyclone. The low pressure system "bombed" out and reached a record low minimun central pressure of 955.2mb (28.21in) at 5:13pm Tuesday at Bigfork Minnesota. The 955.2mb reading not only broke Minnesota state pressure records, but also was the lowest pressure ever recorded on United States mainland from a extratropical cyclone!

Please. I think Eddie Fitzgerald would take exception to all of this adoration.

And I still think switching the game from Sunday to Tuesday was REEEEEDICULOUS.
Their's damage around my nieghborhood today.Due to the wind her wooden fence broke,and the trees that lined up on it snapped as well.The tree in my backyard has also snapped.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Well..I'm with the pale male thought there....my females( I'm actually watching both at the feeder now) are never that color, but rather with beautiful burnised brown wings and a golden/tan breast. Only the males have black around the beak....That one looks like a juvenile pale male....lol....Boy ! I must be really bored.....:0
How about that. My DDD (Dear Departed Dad) is no doubt doing back-flips in his grave. DDD was a serious advanced amateur ornithologist, banded for the Audubon Society for years.
Quoting RIDGES:
Ug. Need I remind all the METS on here that there was a better pressure this year?

On October 26th and 27th, two areas of low pressure merged over northern Minnesota forming a intense extratropical cyclone. The low pressure system "bombed" out and reached a record low minimun central pressure of 955.2mb (28.21in) at 5:13pm Tuesday at Bigfork Minnesota. The 955.2mb reading not only broke Minnesota state pressure records, but also was the lowest pressure ever recorded on United States mainland from a extratropical cyclone!

Please. I think Eddie Fitzgerald would take exception to all of this adoration.

And I still think switching the game from Sunday to Tuesday was REEEEEDICULOUS.


Talking about the East Coast here, not the Midwest. The Midwest is immune to very low pressures, especially Canada. The East Coast of the USA? Not very much so..
Latest surface map shows the pressure rising to 962 mlb. The storm has peaked late this morning with a pressure of 961 mlb. Just shy of the 1993 Superstorm (960 mlb.)
Quoting RichardRamirez:
Snowy Precipitation Is Detrimental, Even Ruinous. I'm Stuck. Hope Everyone Remains Enlivened.

Folks usually can't keep outdoors; furious flurries and nasty downpours demand indoor entertainment.
Quoting MichaelSTL:
The only change that I can see is that the PNA has become neutral from a negative state, and this negative state coincides with the period of cold and snow in the U.S. and Europe, but the PNA isn't supposed to do that; indeed, Europe sees virtually no anomalies (invert for negative phase) from the PNA, and in the U.S., a negative PNA favors warmer than normal temperatures over the Southeast:



If Dr. Masters is really referring to the "Warm Arctic-cold continents" pattern, then this suggests that it isn't so related to the Arctic Oscillation or NAO and it should be tracked as a separate climate pattern.


It's complicated to talk about all these teleconnection patterns, but it is clear from the Arctic Oscillation (AO) forecast from GFS we are in for a major change in the atmospheric flow pattern:



This shift will bring about an end to the "hot Arctic, cold continents" pattern we've been in for most of the last 5 weeks. The NAO index is not showing this shift as strongly, but the "hot Arctic, cold continents" pattern is more closely linked to the AO than the NAO (I did not discuss this in my post on this last week, to try to keep things simple--perhaps I oversimplified!)

Jeff Masters

Quoting reedzone:


Kudos to you Jeff! This is the most strongest storm since the 1993 Superstorm with a pressure of 961 mlb. Good job on your prediction.


When the Euro started showing that monster of beast then it was becoming clear that a major storm was looming. Reed it also looks as if a very warm and fairly wet pattern is coming to C FL next week as the southern jet looks to get quite active. Looks like a similar pattern to that of January 2008 which brought 4" to 8" of rain to most of C FL that month during a La-Nina year.
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Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:
How about that. My DDD (Dear Departed Dad) is no doubt doing back-flips in his grave. DDD was a serious advanced amateur ornithologist, banded for the Audubon Society for years.


I'm in agreement with you Shen - a female.
from birding.com -
Adult female:
• Reddish crest, wings and tail
• Brownish-gray upperparts
• Buffy underparts
• Red bill
• Juvenile like adult female but has dark bill and crest

Both the male & female have the black around the beak but the male also has a black bib.

Have been birding for 50 years now! (OMG - did I just say 50 yrs)Started Audubon Christmas Bird Counts with my Dad when I was 5. Wish I was at home right now watching the feeders :)
33 and sunny out here in the backwoods of SC. 35 this morning back home. Lows are dropping to 19 and 28 respectively. Honestly, it feels nice with a t-shirt and and no jacket up here. Obviously, it won't be the case later when we take my uncle out to dinner for his b-day.
Quoting JeffMasters:


It's complicated to talk about all these teleconnection patterns, but it is clear from the Arctic Oscillation (AO) forecast from GFS we are in for a major change in the atmospheric flow pattern:



This shift will bring about an end to the "hot Arctic, cold continents" pattern we've been in for most of the last 5 weeks. The NAO index is not showing this shift as strongly, but the "hot Arctic, cold continents" pattern is more closely linked to the AO than the NAO (I did not discuss this in my post on this last week, to try to keep things simple--perhaps I oversimplified!)

Jeff Masters



Yep Doc, it also appears that the active southern branch will bring lots of rain and thunderstorms across the south which has been in a bad drought for several months now. This is the pattern that us southerners have been waiting on.
Quoting reedzone:


Talking about the East Coast here, not the Midwest. The Midwest is immune to very low pressures, especially Canada. The East Coast of the USA? Not very much so..


955 mb is like a Cat. 3 hurricane. So technically, they're not immune to stuff like that, albeit it's rare.
neapolitan- that was awesome
Forgot to mention - Late afternoons I have been counting anywhere from 11 to 22 cardinals at my feeders. And - I heard my first one singing yesterday. Spring is just around the corner :)
Quoting Jeff9641:


When the Euro started showing that monster of beast then it was becoming clear that a major storm was looming. Reed it also looks as if a very warm and fairly wet pattern is coming to C FL next week as the southern jet looks to get quite active. Looks like a similar pattern to that of January 2008 which brought 4" to 8" of rain to most of C FL that month during a La-Nina year.


Personally, I would never put faith in one model and one model only. But it got something right, for once.
Not sure what you mean by immune to extreme low pressures? The Midwest is not accustomed to pressures comparable to Hurricane Cat 1 - 3!
Either way - both storms are ones not soon to be forgotten.
67. P451
Tinton Falls, NJ.
30"+ Snowfall.
40 out of 50 measurements were between 28 and 32". Lowest found was 25".
5.5' Drifts.

A couple of images. I have many more. Maybe later I'll put a quick album together.











Quoting caneswatch:


Personally, I would never put faith in one model and one model only. But it got something right, for once.


I agree, but the Euro has been consistantly right with every forecast within 7 days while the GFS has been lacking in preidcting some of these storm systems over the last couple of months.
Quoting reedzone:


Talking about the East Coast here, not the Midwest. The Midwest is immune to very low pressures, especially Canada. The East Coast of the USA? Not very much so..


I like reading all your stuff Reed and I named RIDGES after you so don't take this the wrong way when I say immune isn't quite right.

20 foot waves in Lake Superior with gusts up to 78 mph. Ore carriers having to find any harbor they can to get out of the waves doesn't sound like "immune". And usually those storms pack quite a punch with moisture, wether in the form of snow or rain. Admittedly we have less people to take care of in the Midwest which would mean less people being affected but it doesn't mean the results of this weather aren't the same. I know quite a few people in my area that were taking trees out of their houses.
Quoting aquak9:
neapolitan- that was awesome

Thanks. ;-)

A few facts about this weekend's snow event:

--This was only the 6th snowstorm since 1869 to drop more then 20" in New York's Central Park.

--Three of those six snowstorms have happened in the past five years.

--Atlantic City' received 19" from this storm--far more than it's average seasonal snowfall of 13.6".

--Finally, a nice thundersnow video.
Here in Richmond VA we got 5.5", not a bad snow.
Quoting lilElla:
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I'm in agreement with you Shen - a female.
from birding.com -
Adult female:
• Reddish crest, wings and tail
• Brownish-gray upperparts
• Buffy underparts
• Red bill
• Juvenile like adult female but has dark bill and crest

Both the male & female have the black around the beak but the male also has a black bib.

Have been birding for 50 years now! (OMG - did I just say 50 yrs)Started Audubon Christmas Bird Counts with my Dad when I was 5. Wish I was at home right now watching the feeders :)
Thank you. I am back to thinking female. Lack of bib and brownish tinge under wings makes me feel more confidant.

What in the world is the critter in your avatar? Looks sort of like a mutant Shetland pony we once had. Old country vet just stood and grinned and said "Now ain't that just the ugliest thing you ever saw!"
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:
How about that. My DDD (Dear Departed Dad) is no doubt doing back-flips in his grave. DDD was a serious advanced amateur ornithologist, banded for the Audubon Society for years.


In reverence to your DDD, I'll change my thoughts...I think...lol, I'm certainly not banded, just a bird lover. Let's just say that's one cold looking Cardinal. I'm just wishing I could have a few inches of that snow...have a good one..:)
Quoting Neapolitan:

Thanks. ;-)

A few facts about this weekend's snow event:

--This was only the 6th snowstorm since 1869 to drop more then 20" in New York's Central Park.

--Three of those six snowstorms have happened in the past five years.

--Atlantic City' received 19" from this storm--far more than it's average seasonal snowfall of 13.6".

--Finally, a nice thundersnow video.


and had the lowest pressure off the East Coast since the 1993 Superstorm.
Shen - are you calling my precious little donkey UGLY?????? :) so there you have it - Ella is a minature donkey and was about 3 days old when the picture was taken. Now - after a second peak, wouldn't you say that she is just the most beautiful donkey you have ever seen? :) hehehehehe
Quoting lilElla:
Shen - are you calling my precious little donkey UGLY?????? :) so there you have it - Ella is a minature donkey and was about 3 days old when the picture was taken. Now - after a second peak, wouldn't you say that she is just the most beautiful donkey you have ever seen? :) hehehehehe


I took a close look and I can say.....that's about the cutest little animal I've seen in a long time...I do believe my DDD would agree.!
Thank you - as you can tell, I am very partial to my donkeys :) They really are very special critters, just like big puppies! Very, very gentle, except when it comes to strange dogs or wild canine. They are used for coyote control in many areas.
My friend in Cape Cod for the holidays said they just had a 67mph wind gust about 15 minutes ago and they have been gusting to near 60 since 11pm last night. Lots of trees down where she is staying and power outages.
Very dangerous conditions on Cape Cod right now. Thankfully she leaves there Friday to come back to Orlando.
Quoting JeffMasters:


It's complicated to talk about all these teleconnection patterns, but it is clear from the Arctic Oscillation (AO) forecast from GFS we are in for a major change in the atmospheric flow pattern:

Jeff Masters



Thanks Dr Masters for the additional follow up to your original post. Great stuff. If looking at the AO forecast from the GFS, one must take into consideration the trend over the last 60 days of the model to over develop the positive aspect of the AO. Especially in the longer range.



This is the same with the NAO



But lets put the GFS (which has done very poorly this winter in the long range) aside and look to see if any of the other observations would support a major shift in either of these 2 indicators.

La Nina is still EAST based. (this position has been maintained since early fall and continues to support (along with other factors) the none typical La Nina pattern we have seen)
La Nina is in a gradual weakening phase. So its influence will be felt less on the pattern, and since we are now entering January the clock is running out for a change in La Nina to have any downstream effect before the end of the winter.
MJO %u2013 Continues to meander in Phase 5-7 staying close to natural. (No real change forecasted)

Physically I don%u2019t see much in the way to support a big change to the teleconnections (and thus a pattern shift) To me it appears to be more re-loading of the current pattern after a brief period of trough in the west with a SE ridge in the East.

If the models are right to the extreme plus side on the AO and NAO (which their performance out more then 60 hours is..well D- at best) then somewhere the physics in the atmosphere must point to support it. The models this year are really putting a lot of mets at odds with the reality of the pattern this year (albeit unusual)

Take care,
Mike Stanislaw
Quoting lilElla:
Shen - are you calling my precious little donkey UGLY?????? :) so there you have it - Ella is a minature donkey and was about 3 days old when the picture was taken. Now - after a second peak, wouldn't you say that she is just the most beautiful donkey you have ever seen? :) hehehehehe
Now you know how mutant the Shetland was.
"I ain't 'sinuating nothing but you can't fool the little fly."

2 southern good-ol' -boys go to the stock auction. After sitting in the stands for a bit one says to the other: "Damn the flies are fierce today, I can't keep them away from my face."

His buddy replies, "I don't know what you are talking about, the only place I see any flies is around the back end of that horse in the ring down there."

GOB #1 snaps, "What are you insinuating?"
GOB #2 drawls, "I ain't 'situating nothing, but you can't fool the little fly."

One of DDD's favorites
Shen - I would have liked your DDD :)
Quoting Jeff9641:
My friend in Cape Cod for the holidays said they just had a 67mph wind gust about 15 minutes ago and they have been gusting to near 60 since 11pm last night. Lots of trees down where she is staying and power outages.


This is the most strongest (extratropical) storm to hit the East Coast of the USA since the Storm of the Century (1993 Superstorm)

If they name it, it should be this..
"The Post-Christmas Day Superstorm of 2010 (Storm of the Decade)"

Remember the pressure on the 1993 Superstorm peaked at 960 mlb.
This Superstorm peaked at 961 mlb earlier today.
The Superstorm of 1993 had a different environment to work with.. it had much warmer temps in front of the system, took a track slightly further south across the SE, and iirc, stayed near peak strength for longer.
Quoting jeffs713:
The Superstorm of 1993 had a different environment to work with.. it had much warmer temps in front of the system, took a track slightly further south across the SE, and iirc, stayed near peak strength for longer.


Just imagine if this came in during the month of Feb or March. It looks as if the next couple of months has some very strong wintertime storms ahead. Infact the GFS is hinting at one around 2 weeks from now.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/fp0_312.shtml
Did I mention it was coldddddd out there????

It was 52 degrees when I went out about 2 p.m. Though it's a bit warmer now, I'm hard pressed to remember the last time it was this cold in Nassau during the DAY..... when the HIGH temp was barely 60. I don't think we'll escape going to or below 50 tonight; the sky is quite clear, with little sign of the cloud cover that would be needed to moderate a temperature drop.... I knew it was a good idea to stay in today...
Quoting Neapolitan:

Folks usually can't keep outdoors; furious flurries and nasty downpours demand indoor entertainment.


:)
@ P451, some great snow shots u got there... there's one I would call something like... "There's a car in there somewhere!" lol

Not even 5:00 p.m. yet as it is 51 degrees down here in West Palm.
I got nothing worth mentioning as interior nystate bearly got it. Especially around syracuse/binghampton area's. The near forcast has very little snow forcasted and most of the models through the next 2 weeks show very few storms hitting the interior east coast. Most take the storms up the coast like the last one did.
HERE ARE THE FORECAST LOWS AND RECORD LOWS FOR SOUTH FLORIDA FOR TONIGHT.

CITIES FORECAST LOWS RECORD LOWS
MIAMI 37 37 - 1902
FT. LAUDERDALE 35 38 - 1956
WEST PALM BEACH 29 38 - 1935
NAPLES 31 33 - 1977
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Not even 5:00 p.m. yet as it is 51 degrees down here in West Palm.


Never got to 50 here near St. Petersburg-Clearwater airport. Highest I saw today was 48.
Quoting RichardRamirez:
Snowy Precipitation Is Detrimental, Even Ruinous. I'm Stuck. Hope Everyone Remains Enlivened.


Genuine Resilience Originates While Under Pressure
Center of the Nor'easter passing very close to this buoy. Pressure as of 4PM EST was 961.39 mb. Will be interesting to see if it drops any further.
Link
Quoting JFLORIDA:


Genuine Resilience Originates While Under Pressure


G.R.O.W. U.P.
Quoting IceCoast:
Center of the Nor'easter passing very close to this buoy. Pressure as of 4PM EST was 961.39 mb. Will be interesting to see if it drops any further.
Link


Has had a pressure of 961 mlb for more quite sometime. Some people want to underestimate this storm but in reality, this is a Superstorm, and a remarkable one at that to end the year. I understand that the 1993 Superstorm was a much more dangerous storm, but in pressure wise, the Post-Christmas Day Superstorm was and still is 1 mlb. shy of reaching the pressure of the classic 1993 Superstorms 960 mlb. peak.
Anyone have a model to share...what's coming for New Year's Eve and Day in the deep southeast?
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Anyone have a model to share...what's coming for New Year's Eve and Day in the deep southeast?


I think thats the $64000 question really. I haven't looked at the rest, but the GFS doesn't seem resolved at all or could indicate more than one storm approaching.
Here a loop:
Link
Here is new years day:
Thanks JFLORIDA and mikester.......looks like definately some precip....hopefully just a little rain
100 tks.

Between days 3&4 doesn't seem that resolved there either. I guess it could just be that way I suppose.
Yeah just noticed that. Looks fishy to me. Maybe we will get a new years storm worth mentioning.
Well...after studying models...kinda looks like the precip in Tx just disappears....
Quoting reedzone:


Talking about the East Coast here, not the Midwest. The Midwest is immune to very low pressures, especially Canada. The East Coast of the USA? Not very much so..
The Midwest is "immune"...I think you're off there
Is this "immune" like u've had so many of 'em that another one is practically passé?
Quoting BahaHurican:
Is this "immune" like u've had so many of 'em that another one is practically pass?
If that is the case then yes! Overall it seems we get a couple of good 170-180mbs a year, but some of the blizzards especially in like the 20th century were really monsters.
This is why it's known for the world's worst weather:

Current Weather Conditions:
Mount Washington, NH, United States

Wind from the NNW (330 degrees) at 55 MPH (48 KT) gusting to 66 MPH (57 KT)
Visibility less than 1 mile
Sky conditions obscured
Weather Light snow Blowing snow Freezing fog
Temperature -9 F (-23 C)
Windchill -45 F (-43 C)
Dew Point -9 F (-23 C)
Relative Humidity 100%
47 here now...Going to easily break our record low of 38.
I am at 15F with a stiff wind from the west at 10-20mph.
Quoting mikester:
I am at 15F with a stiff wind from the west at 10-20mph.


Wow...are you going to break your record low also?
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:
Thank you. I am back to thinking female. Lack of bib and brownish tinge under wings makes me feel more confidant.


Juvenile's bills are gray or black. This female is more reddish than those around here, though.

Quoting DontAnnoyMe:
This is why it's known for the world's worst weather:

Current Weather Conditions:
Mount Washington, NH, United States

Wind from the NNW (330 degrees) at 55 MPH (48 KT) gusting to 66 MPH (57 KT)
Visibility less than 1 mile
Sky conditions obscured
Weather Light snow Blowing snow Freezing fog
Temperature -9 F (-23 C)
Windchill -45 F (-43 C)
Dew Point -9 F (-23 C)
Relative Humidity 100%


Worst? I'd call that ideal.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Worst? I'd call that ideal.


lol thats insanity for me. 81 for a high and 59 for a low is idealish for me

Good Evening All. Monday's Low for Crestview Fl was 18 and tomorrow's low is forecast for 22F. It is Currently 37.7F. High for Tuesday will be 52F. I have had the heater on since November 23 and if I keep it on for three more days, it will surpase last year number of heater days. Normally we run the heater for 14 - 22 days each winter. Yes, I think my wife was a penguin in a past life. ;>)

Quoting CybrTeddy:


lol thats insanity for me. 81 for a high and 59 for a low is idealish for me


I was talking about the wind.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Wow...are you going to break your record low also?


No i don't think so. I believe our record low was 6F. I can't think when it happened though.
More than 200,000 people have been affected by flooding resulting from heavy rains in Sri Lanka, a disaster management official said Monday. Heavy rains lasted from noon Sunday to about noon on Monday, said A.R. Jayarathne, assistant director of the country's Disaster Management Center. Large tanks in the region, set up to irrigate rice paddy fields, overflowed, forcing authorities to open sluice gates, he said. While no one had been forced from their homes, food waters had entered homes and caused minor damage in numerous locations, he said. At least 532 houses reported partial damage. Some 2,915 people living in Internally Displaced Persons camps were also affected. The camps remain after the nation's opposition Tamil Tiger rebels were militarily defeated in May 2009. A Buddhist temple, Somawathiya, located in the North Central Province capital of Polonnaruwa, was cut off after a nearby river overflowed, Jayarathne said. At least 40 people, including 20 soldiers, were stranded, but were not in danger, he said.
Quoting reedzone:


This is the most strongest (extratropical) storm to hit the East Coast of the USA since the Storm of the Century (1993 Superstorm)

If they name it, it should be this..
"The Post-Christmas Day Superstorm of 2010 (Storm of the Decade)"

Remember the pressure on the 1993 Superstorm peaked at 960 mlb.
This Superstorm peaked at 961 mlb earlier today.


True, and awesome. Blizzard of the decade, and century, so far.

However, neither it nor '93 beats the Blizzard of '78, pressure-wise - 955.

As for snowfall, I remember it all too well. Boston got 27", with blizzard conditions for around 33 hours (vs. the usual 12-18). Compare that with '93 - 12.8". Today - 19". Not even close, although some areas of NY/NJ did get that much today and some even a bit more.

'93 was much more crippling for the south than the north, and today's was nowhere near as crippling as either '78 or '93.

Oh boy. Emphasis mine:

From Phoenix AFD:
MUCH COLDER AIR WILL MOVE INTO THE REGION EARLY THURSDAY MORNING
BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. THIS WILL ALLOW SNOW LEVELS TO DROP TO AROUND
3000 FEET ACROSS THE AREA THURSDAY MORNING AND TO AROUND 2000 FEET
LATER IN THE DAY. LINGERING RAIN SHOWERS SHOULD MIX AND CHANGE TO
SNOW ACROSS SOUTHERN GILA COUNTY AS WELL AS THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN
EXTENT OF THE PHOENIX METRO /SCOTTSDALE...CAVE CREEK...EAST
MESA/...ALTHOUGH SOME QUESTIONS REMAIN REGARDING HOW MUCH LINGERING
PRECIPITATION THERE WILL BE ONCE THE COLD AIR ARRIVES. GFS SUGGESTS
A BRIEF CHANGEOVER FOLLOWED BY DRY CONDITIONS...EUROPEAN MODEL
SUGGESTS A MORE PROLONGED SNOW EVENT ESPECIALLY AROUND GLOBE. GIVEN
LAST WEEKS STORM...IT SEEMS THAT THE MODELS HAVE BEEN BRINGING IN
PRECIP TOO FAST AND ENDING IT TOO FAST. THEREFORE I AM INCLINED TO
HOLD ONTO PRECIP CHANCES A BIT LONGER THAN THE GFS AND CONTINUE
SNOWFALL ACROSS SOUTHERN GILA COUNTY THURSDAY NIGHT. I DO NOT HAVE
ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL IN THE FORECAST FOR THE DESERT FLOORS BUT SOME
RIDGE TOPS COULD SEE LIGHT ACCUMS ON THURSDAY. THIS MAY NEED TO BE
RE-ADDRESSED IF IT BECOMES EVIDENT THAT PRECIP WILL BE LINGERING
WELL INTO THURSDAY NIGHT.


Snow in Phoenix?
Blizzard of 93 left me with 4-5ft snow and 6-8ft snow drifts in my area. Up north from me got more snow and worse drifts. Sad part was it hit on a weekend and we had school the following week.
Wow the temp is bombing. 28 here already.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


True, and awesome. Blizzard of the decade, and century, so far.

However, neither it nor '93 beats the Blizzard of '78, pressure-wise - 955.

As for snowfall, I remember it all too well. Boston got 27", with blizzard conditions for around 33 hours (vs. the usual 12-18). Compare that with '93 - 12.8". Today - 19". Not even close, although some areas of NY/NJ did get that much today and some even a bit more.

'93 was much more crippling for the south than the north, and today's was nowhere near as crippling as either '78 or '93.




Superstorm of '93 gave us wind gusts of at least 109 mph, officially. The Treasure Coast lost many old growth trees, some were completely uprooted.
Hmmm... just looked at our temp records on WU and it seems this December is the coldest we've had in the last decade. Normally we are averaging 78 / 67 max/min during DEC; JAN is normally our coldest month. I wouldn't be surprised, however, to see tonight's overnight low make a run for the all-time record here.... This kind of cold makes one wish for a space heater...
Quoting BahaHurican:
Hmmm... just looked at our temp records on WU and it seems this December is the coldest we've had in the last decade. Normally we are averaging 78 / 67 max/min during DEC; JAN is normally our coldest month. I wouldn't be surprised, however, to see tonight's overnight low make a run for the all-time record here.... This kind of cold makes one wish for a space heater...


Which is?
Quoting BahaHurican:
Hmmm... just looked at our temp records on WU and it seems this December is the coldest we've had in the last decade. Normally we are averaging 78 / 67 max/min during DEC; JAN is normally our coldest month. I wouldn't be surprised, however, to see tonight's overnight low make a run for the all-time record here.... This kind of cold makes one wish for a space heater...
you don't have a space heater
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
47 here now...Going to easily break our record low of 38.


Yeah, I saw 28 for a low in RPB. However, it'll be 19 where i'm at in SC. Snow still on the ground from yesterday, some roads are still slick from ice.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
you don't have a space heater



Hello, Keep. Merry Christmas. How was your weekend?


there she is going going
Quoting caneswatch:


Yeah, I saw 28 for a low in RPB. However, it'll be 19 where i'm at in SC. Snow still on the ground from yesterday, some roads are still slick from ice.



Hey, canes, Geoffrey, nice to see you on.

Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Superstorm of '93 gave us wind gusts of at least 109 mph, officially. The Treasure Coast lost many old growth trees, some were completely uprooted.


I remember when I was 10 or so watching an old tape and it included WPTV's coverage of this storm. It was unbelievable watching it.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Hello, Keep. Merry Christmas. How was your weekend?
good a couple of call outs nothing bad had a move in at noon did a ghost run in building same tommorow i got mon and tuse for xmas and boxing day work wed thur then off fri sat sun for new years
everything back to normal on the 3rd
Quoting caneswatch:


Yeah, I saw 28 for a low in RPB. However, it'll be 19 where i'm at in SC. Snow still on the ground from yesterday, some roads are still slick from ice.


Stay warm dude...Nice warm up coming up for the next week.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Hey, canes, Geoffrey, nice to see you on.



Same here PSL.
This weekend's event was only the sixth storm since 1869 to drop more then 20" of snow in New York's Central Park. That's remarkable, but what's perhaps more remarkable is that three of those six snowstorms have taken place in just the past five years. An increasing frequency of such extreme weather events is, of course, what's been predicted by climate scientists to happen as the oceans and atmosphere heat up due to increased concentrations of CO2. It definitely makes one wonder what's to happen in the future, no?
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Stay warm dude...Nice warm up coming up for the next week.


Quoting caneswatch:


I remember when I was 10 or so watching an old tape and it included WPTV's coverage of this storm. It was unbelievable watching it.



Agreed.

Dang, you're a youngin' LOL.


No offense. Glad to have you around!



Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
good a couple of call outs nothing bad had a move in at noon did a ghost run in building same tommorow i got mon and tuse for xmas and boxing day work wed thur then off fri sat sun for new years



Good, glad to hear you get some time off.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Stay warm dude...Nice warm up coming up for the next week.


So I hear. It'll warm up here...to 60 LOL
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Hey, canes, Geoffrey, nice to see you on.



You too PSL...All we need now is Grothar!


low level rtn flow buiding over west gom
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


You too PSL...All we need now is Grothar!



Thanks,I hear ya. It's always good to have the LHR with us.
Quoting caneswatch:


So I hear. It'll warm up here...to 60 LOL


62 here for a high tomorrow.
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Agreed.

Dang, you're a youngin' LOL.


No offense. Glad to have you around!





Thanks. I'm glad i'm on here, as long as there are no trolls around.
Quoting caneswatch:


Thanks. I'm glad i'm on here, as long as there are no trolls around.



Agreed!!

I'm sure you have a good tune waiting, put it out there, please!
Evening all, it's 36 degrees in New Smyrna Beach but by Thursday will be 70 and remain that way through the weekend.
Counting down to 2011 now!
Have already started the New Year's resolutions.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


62 here for a high tomorrow.



We got all the way to 52, here. (briefly) I'll be shocked if we hit 60, Tuesday.
400 spend frigid night on A train in NYC nightmare
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Agreed!!

I'm sure you have a good tune waiting, put it out there, please!


Ok I will. Since i'm wearing this bands t-shirt:

Quoting Skyepony:
400 spend frigid night on A train in NYC nightmare


Its going to be a smidge nn the cold side tonight in the Southeast.

Quoting Chicklit:

Counting down to 2011 now!
Have already started the New Year's resolutions.

Yeah, me too: 2008's. I'll start working on 2009's sometime around mid-August.
Just reach freezing in north hillsborough co. Cold night
Quoting Neapolitan:

Yeah, me too: 2008's. I'll start working on 2009's sometime around mid-August.

Hey, Neo. If you haven't done it by now fuhgetaboutit. That's what New Year's is for, starting all over again!
Quoting caneswatch:


Ok I will. Since i'm wearing this bands t-shirt:




Good post. Very sad that KC chose to leave us. A rare talent. I'll observe a moment of silence.
Quoting Neapolitan:
This weekend's event was only the sixth storm since 1869 to drop more then 20" of snow in New York's Central Park. That's remarkable, but what's perhaps more remarkable is that three of those six snowstorms have taken place in just the past five years. An increasing frequency of such extreme weather events is, of course, what's been predicted by climate scientists to happen as the oceans and atmosphere heat up due to increased concentrations of CO2. It definitely makes one wonder what's to happen in the future, no?

Yup.

Chunks of Ice in a cup of hot tea makes for iced tea.

Unless of course the AGW mentality is present and thats when that same concoction makes more hot tea instead.

Yesiree.

Regarding todays weather in the USA...

An other way to look at is Mother Nature is doing her own thing as she always has over the billions of years of her existence. She has the weather covered all on her own.

She is probably more annoyed at our shouting in the oceans and making it hard for the whales to communicate with each other than anything else.



I've always liked this song:

Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I've always liked this song:




Nice, Geoff.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I've always liked this song:



Wow.

Looking at that picture, either that is one huge giant with a guitar or one really small person behind him.


Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



Good post. Very sad that KC chose to leave us. A rare talent. I'll observe a moment of silence.


I'm not too convinced that KC made that decision, considering the crazy wife he had, and what the PI showed.

But yes, he was a very rare and great talent. His songwriting was beyond incredible.
Quoting calusakat:
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I've always liked this song:



Wow.

Looking at that picture, either that is one huge giant with a guitar or one really small person behind him.




LOL, that looks like someone (the guitar tech?) on his knees. Note guitar necks behind him..
Quoting Orcasystems:


Its going to be a smidge nn the cold side tonight in the Southeast.



In Melbourne, FL it free fell from sunset til about 2 hours ago. I got to 34ºF, now it's 35.4ºF. A slight breeze has kicked up the last hour. Record is 32º for the day. I suspect we will handily break it but shouldn't need to turn the sprinkler on the citrus or anything.
Quoting caneswatch:


I'm not too convinced that KC made that decision, considering the crazy wife he had, and what the PI showed.

But yes, he was a very rare and great talent. His songwriting was beyond incredible.



I wasn't going to get into the specifics, but I agree, suspicious.

No doubt about the talent.
Quoting Neapolitan:

Yeah, me too: 2008's. I'll start working on 2009's sometime around mid-August.


I'm still on 2001s.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


LOL, that looks like someone (the guitar tech?) on his knees. Note guitar necks behind him..


It kinda reminded me of the jail house scene in Will Smith's movie Hancock. Or Jim Cary in alley scene in the movie Bruce Almighty.



Hail, Satan!
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Nice song.
Quoting Grothar:


Nice song.




Good evening, Gro! How was your Christmas?
I think when the blog is slow, we should post our own ....."100 Years Ago Today" blog. It would be nice to know what some of you were doing then.
Next hurricane season(2011)looks bad for the U.S.I'm not liking it one bit....
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:




Good evening, Gro! How was your Christmas?


To paraphrase Dr. Masters a little.. it was either the 1st or 3rd best since record keeping began. Hope you all had a good one, too!
Quoting Grothar:
I think when the blog is slow, we should post our own ....."100 Years Ago Today" blog. It would be nice to know what some of you were doing then.


A sort of "family album". Nice!
Quoting Grothar:


To paraphrase Dr. Masters a little.. it was either the 1st or 3rd best since record keeping began. Hope you all had a good one, too!


LOL.

Thanks. I can't complain.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Next hurricane season(2011)looks bad for the U.S.I'm not liking it one bit....


Eventually we'll break our lack of major hurricane strikes. Whether it's next year or in 2020.
Quoting Grothar:
I think when the blog is slow, we should post our own ....."100 Years Ago Today" blog. It would be nice to know what some of you were doing then.


From a weather standpoint,, Whoomp there it is :)

http://www.weatherforyou.com/history/

or

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/iwx/program_areas/wxhisttdy/calendar.php

Quoting Grothar:


To paraphrase Dr. Masters a little.. it was either the 1st or 3rd best since record keeping began. Hope you all had a good one, too!


Yes I did. I love the idea of the "100 years ago today" blog.
Quoting ProjectPat:


What - no vid, bro?

Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:


Now that's an old one.
Quoting caneswatch:


Yes I did. I love the idea of the "100 years ago today" blog.


Yeah, but I've got pictures. LOL How is SC? You're missing all our cold down here.
Quoting Ossqss:


From a weather standpoint,, Whoomp there it is :)

http://www.weatherforyou.com/history/

or

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/iwx/program_areas/wxhisttdy/calendar.php



Hey, you still move pretty good on the dance floor.
Quoting Grothar:


Now that's an old one.



How cool would it be if you could be there to give those souls some good direction?
The most appropriate for the day.

Quoting Grothar:


Yeah, but I've got pictures. LOL How is SC? You're missing all our cold down here.


Having fun with the family, but it's a lot colder than down there. It's supposed to get down to 18 tonight. Supposed to be 28 down in RPB, it hit that here at 7.
Quoting Grothar:


Hey, you still move pretty good on the dance floor.


I was the stick man :)

Did ya check out this day in weather history ?

excerpts from the first site I posted, interesting stuff from long ago...... out >>


On this day in weather history ..

* 1869 - A post Christmas storm in New York and Vermont produced record storm totals of 30 inches at Burlington, VT, and 39 inches at Montpelier VT. A public emergency was declared in Vermont. (David Ludlum)

* 1892 - An Atlantic coast storm produced a record 18.6 inches of snow at Norfolk, VA, including 17.7 inches in 24 hours. The storm also produced 9.5 inches of snow at Raleigh NC, and brought snow to northern Florida for the first time in 35 years. (26th- 28th) (The Weather Channel)

* 1982 - The worst Louisiana rainstorm in more than 100 years came to an end. More than 18 inches fell at Vinton, LA, during the three day storm. Flooding was widespread, and property damage was estimated at 100 to 200 million dollars. President Reagan visited the state and declared ten parishes in northeastern Lousiana disaster areas. (The Weather Channel)
Quoting KoritheMan:


Eventually we'll break our lack of major hurricane strikes. Whether it's next year or in 2020.


I'll be honest with you, Ike was 1 mph away from Category 3. I consider that a major strike, plus only Andrew and Katrina did more damage than Ike.
192. JRRP
Quoting Neapolitan:
This weekend's event was only the sixth storm since 1869 to drop more then 20" of snow in New York's Central Park. That's remarkable, but what's perhaps more remarkable is that three of those six snowstorms have taken place in just the past five years. An increasing frequency of such extreme weather events is, of course, what's been predicted by climate scientists to happen as the oceans and atmosphere heat up due to increased concentrations of CO2. It definitely makes one wonder what's to happen in the future, no?

no
Quoting Ossqss:


I was the stick man :)

Did ya check out this day in weather history ?

excerpts from the first site I posted, interesting stuff from long ago...... out >>


On this day in weather history ..

* 1869 - A post Christmas storm in New York and Vermont produced record storm totals of 30 inches at Burlington, VT, and 39 inches at Montpelier VT. A public emergency was declared in Vermont. (David Ludlum)

* 1892 - An Atlantic coast storm produced a record 18.6 inches of snow at Norfolk, VA, including 17.7 inches in 24 hours. The storm also produced 9.5 inches of snow at Raleigh NC, and brought snow to northern Florida for the first time in 35 years. (26th- 28th) (The Weather Channel)

* 1982 - The worst Louisiana rainstorm in more than 100 years came to an end. More than 18 inches fell at Vinton, LA, during the three day storm. Flooding was widespread, and property damage was estimated at 100 to 200 million dollars. President Reagan visited the state and declared ten parishes in northeastern Lousiana disaster areas. (The Weather Channel)


Yes, I read them all. Some of those articles make interesting reading for those interested in history.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Eventually we'll break our lack of major hurricane strikes. Whether it's next year or in 2020.
I personally think that the U.S will run out of luck next year.We have meracuosly not had any hurricane strikes since 2008,and major strikes since 2005.If we continue to follow the 2006-2007-and 2008 pattern,then 2011 should be like 2008...
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I'll be honest with you, Ike was 1 mph away from Category 3. I consider that a major strike, plus only Andrew and Katrina did more damage than Ike.
Ike was bad enough.Imagine if it had stayed over the gulf longer.The damage would of been unimagenable.
The damage would of been unimagenable.

just like the spelling

j/k :)
Quoting aquak9:
The damage would of been unimagenable.

just like the spelling

j/k :)



Evening, aqua. Dang those squiggly red lines.
squiggly red lines?

ya mean, like the freeze lines? like where I'm supposta be around 26º tonite?

yes, damnit to hell man, those squiggly red lines will be the death of humankind yet

unless my cat kills us all first
More rain for us in CA starting tomorrow night. After that, tag, you're it. :)

Sorry about the snow...

Friends call me snow miser...

Link
Quoting aquak9:
squiggly red lines?

ya mean, like the freeze lines? like where I'm supposta be around 26º tonite?

yes, damnit to hell man, those squiggly red lines will be the death of humankind yet

unless my cat kills us all first


LOL. Nah, the lines that tell us if we've got the spelling correct.

We're projected for 27. No fun at all.
Quoting aquak9:
squiggly red lines?

ya mean, like the freeze lines? like where I'm supposta be around 26º tonite?

yes, damnit to hell man, those squiggly red lines will be the death of humankind yet

unless my cat kills us all first


here is a tune too warm ya up


Great post Keeper!



Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:

Great post Keeper!





Meh. Linkin Park's way past their heyday.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Meh. Linkin Park's way past their heyday.


The SOI is now at +26.2 (and still rapidly rising), smashing the previous December record of +23 in 1950 (virtually guaranteed looking at the current SLP anomalies):

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:




I'll be honest: Minutes to Midnight was my least favorite album by them.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Meh. Linkin Park's way past their heyday.


Agreed. Minutes to Midnight is pretty much their last good album. If they kept it the way they did like One Step Closer and Numb, they'd still be as good as they once were.

Other than that, the only good rock bands that are still alive are Alice in Chains and the Foo Fighters. Don't you guys miss the 90's where rock was great no matter what?
hi everyone! I was wondering if there was anyone online that knows first hand what the weather is like in Denver? I see that a storm just went through, maybe the next wave on its way to us in frozen South Florida, but it says sunny and cold for every day from what I can see. Is there snow on the ground? Or maybe someone can suggest where I can look. Thanks as my son is flying out there tomorrow.
Quoting boyzNme:
hi everyone! I was wondering if there was anyone online that knows first hand what the weather is like in Denver? I see that a storm just went through, maybe the next wave on its way to us in frozen South Florida, but it says sunny and cold for every day from what I can see. Is there snow on the ground? Or maybe someone can suggest where I can look. Thanks as my son is flying out there tomorrow.


Try this.
next up
Quoting caneswatch:


Agreed. Minutes to Midnight is pretty much their last good album. If they kept it the way they did like One Step Closer and Numb, they'd still be as good as they once were.

Other than that, the only good rock bands that are still alive are Alice in Chains and the Foo Fighters. Don't you guys miss the 90's where rock was great no matter what?
I love 90's rock!!!!.U2 is still pretty good as well,but the songs that they come out with today have nothing on their older hits(mu opinion.)
Quoting caneswatch:


Agreed. Minutes to Midnight is pretty much their last good album. If they kept it the way they did like One Step Closer and Numb, they'd still be as good as they once were.

Other than that, the only good rock bands that are still alive are Alice in Chains and the Foo Fighters. Don't you guys miss the 90's where rock was great no matter what?


I really didn't like Minutes to Midnight. To each their own, I suppose.

Admittedly, I've yet to try their newest album. Perhaps that'll be a refresher for me.
Quoting aquak9:
The damage would of been unimagenable.

just like the spelling

j/k :)
Lol.You got me.
Quoting washingtonian115:
I love 90's rock!!!!.U2 is still pretty good as well,but the songs that they come out with today have nothing on their older hits(mu opinion.)


I'm with you on that opinion. Their 80s and 90s hits were beyond great. But now, it's like "meh, not so good as they once were."
Quoting caneswatch:
Don't you guys miss the 90's where rock was great no matter what?

Ack. Gag.
Quoting KoritheMan:


I really didn't like Minutes to Midnight. To each their own, I suppose.

Admittedly, I've yet to try their newest album. Perhaps that'll be a refresher for me.


MTM had some good songs on there, but that was it.

From hearing their newest single, i'd back away from their new album if you loved their old stuff more.
Quoting bappit:

Ack. Gag.


Why gag?
The Renaissance ended after Exile on Main Street. I suffered through disco, then the 80's. I guess there was a bit of revival in the 90's ... better than Wham.
Quoting bappit:
The Renaissance ended after Exile on Main Street. I suffered through disco, then the 80's. I guess there was a bit of revival in the 90's ... better than Wham.


Disco and 80's. 90's music was the cure to get rid of all that lol
Quoting bappit:
The Renaissance ended after Exile on Main Street. I suffered through disco, then the 80's. I guess there was a bit of revival in the 90's ... better than Wham.
I'm a huge fan of 80's music(if you look on my ipod that's what you'll mostly see).And in 2nd place is 90's music.Todays music doesn't interest me as much.I can go weeks without listening to radio.I leave that all to the young folk.



With all due respect to the various opinions about whether a particular band's tune was "great", at times it's about an emotion conveyed.


Many times, it's about a feeling.
All music is good--mostly--but this clip is creepy. LOL
Quoting PSLFLCaneVet:



With all due respect to the various opinions about whether a particular band's tune was "great", at times it's about an emotion conveyed.


Many times, it's about a feeling.


That's completely true, then comes the instrumentals. That's what usually turns a person on or off to certain music.
Here's the original--lip synced.

224. JRRP
Quoting caneswatch:


That's completely true, then comes the instrumentals. That's what usually turns a person on or off to certain music.



U2 does disco with Lemon--according to Wikipedia.

Well, i'm off for the night guys. See y'all tomorrow.
Quoting caneswatch:
Well, i'm off for the night guys. See y'all tomorrow.



G'night friend. Sleep well!
Quoting sunlinepr:


Now there's something with feeling and emotion!
Tampa Executive
30 °F
Freezing Fog
12:20 AM EST
Quoting skubaaruba:
Most of the time a major pattern change is proceeded by a major storm. The East Coast happened to be on the wrong side of this storm. It looks like by the weekend the storm will be just a memory with the possibility of 50 degree temperatures!


only the northeast will be spared.
Now it says this, obviously wrong.
Tampa Executive
32 °F
Light Snow
1:00 AM EST
Link
237. P451
"The heaviest snows fell about 50 miles to the west and north of New York City. Lyndhurst, New Jersey, located about 15 miles northwest of New York City, got 29 inches, and several nearby towns also reported snows in excess of 24 inches."


I think the good Doctor has this wrong. We have 30+" in Monmouth and Ocean counties south of NYC.

32" is widely reported across my area and just to my south and east.
238. P451
Being cleared out by bulldozers and front end loaders right now.

Not sleeping through that that is for certain.
Morning everybody. Just took in my casual thermometer at 6:25, which was reading 55 deg. F at the time. Now, after 10 min inside, it's only reading 60! I gotta get on the road relatively early this a.m. - by 7:15 - and this kinda temperature is not very encouraging .... however, skies are mostly clear and the wind is not blowing right now, so I suppose it could be worse... :o)

BRRRRRRRRRR, Goood Morning Everyone 18.5 outside
241. hud3
Hi, Folks.

I'm having trouble getting any of my NOAA links to load. I've tried clicking on the satellite image links on this site as well, with no luck. I don't have any problems with any other sites, just NOAA, NHC and related sites. For example, I can't get any of the sites listed on this Wunderground page to load: Tropical Weather: Weather Underground
Anyone else having problems? If not, I suspect one of the periodic software updates has screwed around with my settings somehow. Thanks for any insights offered.

Hud
Nevis, West Indies
37.2 here in Lake Worth.
Where is "Chicken Little" now? I wish he would use some of his ill gotten loot to help pay my heating bill!
Won't let me embed the data from my PWS this morning. Drag. Anyway temp bottomed out at 21.4 Currently 21.9F.
It bottomed out at 23.8 degrees in north hillsborough co.
Getting back to normal for south Florida...

Walked outside to check on the well.. entire grass as far as the eye could see was covered in frost. 25 right now here in Hillsborough.
Quoting BahaHurican:
Morning everybody. Just took in my casual thermometer at 6:25, which was reading 55 deg. F at the time. Now, after 10 min inside, it's only reading 60! I gotta get on the road relatively early this a.m. - by 7:15 - and this kinda temperature is not very encouraging .... however, skies are mostly clear and the wind is not blowing right now, so I suppose it could be worse... :o)
Maybe just a little!!! LOL
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Walked outside to check on the well.. entire grass as far as the eye could see was covered in frost. 25 right now here in Hillsborough.


I live in Northern Pinellas on a golf course and it is one of the heaviest frosts I have ever seen. Looks like it snowed last night.
Dr. Masters
I respect your expertise and insight, (and recommend Wunderground to everyone I know). I ran across this today - http://coalgeology.com/true-planetary-motions-and-rhythmic-climatic-changes-based-on-an-orbiting-sun /10164/

Can you comment on the value of these theories?
Thanks
Quoting HawksNestPoint:
Dr. Masters
I respect your expertise and insight, (and recommend Wunderground to everyone I know). I ran across this today - http://coalgeology.com/true-planetary-motions-and-rhythmic-climatic-changes-based-on-an-orbiting-sun /10164/

Can you comment on the value of these theories?
Thanks

I'm not Dr. Masters, of course, but my own first take after reading all the PR pieces sent out: Look-Yat was a bit of a quack, and the book appears to be full of junk science ranging from the unverified to the ridiculous.

The self-published book's author's daughter (the person behind the PR push) claims that her father discovered the "true planetary motions", yet sat on this discovery for thirty years until his death, after which she sat on them for another 13. She states that he chose to "not place emphasis on a traditional college education". She further claims that his closely-held discovery highlights the "deficiencies" in the astronomical work done by pioneers such as Galileo and Kepler--revising and making obsolete the work of the latter--and that in fact his work is the single most "astronomically significant discovery of the millennia and all time", and is "worthy to be recognized by the Nobel Prize!"

The kicker for me, however, was her contention that the Mayans were onto this, too, but failed to act on it in a timely manner and thus perished, but the rest of us can luckily avoid a similar fate by packing up and moving post haste to Venus (not Mars, however, as we've waited too long and it's already in "its own ice-age").

To summarize: I think a person would find more logic on a bottle of Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap. But that's just my "elitist" opinion. ;-)
253. That whole website looks designed more to sell stuff, and provide "shock and awe"... without much in the way of peer-reviewed information. Also, the entire "content" of that page is simply a "teaser" to buy the book. Furthermore, the posting is VERY biased, and references this one person's "notes". Can I go write a few hundred pages of notes, and compile those notes into a book and present it as fact?

There is a line between personal opinions, and scientific research. This particular book falls much more on one side than the other.
Quoting Neapolitan:


The kicker for me, however, was her contention that the Mayans were onto this, too, but failed to act on it in a timely manner and perished, but the rest of us can avoid that fate by moving post haste to Venus (not Mars, however, as we've waited too long and it's already in "its own ice-age").

So, lets move to venus after we find a way to handle crushing atmospheric pressures, sulfuric acid clouds, a CO2-dense atmosphere, and surface temps hot enough to melt lead.
253: Looks like pure hokeyness to me. Being able to predict weather conditions thousands of years in advance??? That would certainly make it easier to choose sites to host the Winter Olympics, but, it doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Stoopid Mayans should have gone to Venus. What were they thinking? We must learn from their mistakes!
Good Morning,

Record daily lows this morning in N Florida.

I'm up for a trip to venus, at least it would be warmer. I'll bring some Tums to balance the acid rain.
coalgeology.com?

That should be a dead giveaway to their credibility - the fossil fuel industry spends millions to deceive the public (and unfortunately, succeed most of the time). For example:

US oil company donated millions to climate sceptic groups, says Greenpeace
Report identifies Koch Industries giving $73m to climate sceptic groups 'spreading inaccurate and misleading information'

Dirty Money: Big Oil and corporate polluters spent over $500 million to kill climate bill, push offshore drilling



Even the government is suckered by Big Oil/Coal/etc:

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Far Outstrip Renewable Incentives

In 2008, worldwide government subsidies that support the consumption of fossil fuel totaled $557 billion, according to an estimate by the International Energy Agency. Of that amount, $18.2 billion in subsidies were provided by the US government alone. Producers, like Exxon Mobil Corp. (NYSE: XOM), Chevron Corp. (NYSE: CVX), and ConocoPhillips Corp. (NYSE: COP), received an additional $100 billion in subsidies. Total global subsidies for fossil fuel production and consumption are estimated at nearly $700 billion, or about 1% of global GDP.
Quoting MichaelSTL:
coalgeology.com?

That should be a dead giveaway to their credibility - the fossil fuel industry spends millions to deceive the public (and unfortunately, succeed most of the time). For example:

US oil company donated millions to climate sceptic groups, says Greenpeace
Report identifies Koch Industries giving $73m to climate sceptic groups 'spreading inaccurate and misleading information'

Dirty Money: Big Oil and corporate polluters spent over $500 million to kill climate bill, push offshore drilling



Even the government is suckered by Big Oil/Coal/etc:

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Far Outstrip Renewable Incentives

In 2008, worldwide government subsidies that support the consumption of fossil fuel totaled $557 billion, according to an estimate by the International Energy Agency. Of that amount, $18.2 billion in subsidies were provided by the US government alone. Producers, like Exxon Mobil Corp. (NYSE: XOM), Chevron Corp. (NYSE: CVX), and ConocoPhillips Corp. (NYSE: COP), received an additional $100 billion in subsidies. Total global subsidies for fossil fuel production and consumption are estimated at nearly $700 billion, or about 1% of global GDP.

Complete Update

232 Hours till vacation in Mexico :)





Quoting oddspeed:



The trouble with a one track mind is its narrow gauge and lack of switching facilities.
Quoting pilotguy1:


The trouble with a one track mind is its narrow gauge and lack of switching facilities.


LOL. I think I just found a new e-mail signature!
so the cold in fla is done get out the flip flops and tanning oil everyone to the beach
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
so the cold in fla is done get out the flip flops and tanning oil everyone to the beach

KEEPER, Not quite yet..But I did take my Christmas lights down this morning... Probably about 55 here in Palm Beach county...But the rest of the week is looking good.
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:

KEEPER, Not quite yet..But I did take my Christmas lights down this morning... Probably about 55 here in Palm Beach county...But the rest of the week is looking good.
really i took all the lights out of the windows this morning here all i have left now is the tree and the wreath on the front door which will come down on sat morning before my traditional new years day BBQ with t bones and baked potatoes and salad to ring in the new year
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
really i took all the lights out of the windows this morning here all i have left now is the tree and the wreath on the front door which will come down on sat morning before my traditional new years day BBQ with t bones and baked potatoes and salad to ring in the new year

Um.. YUM!

Wish it was easier to BBQ down here on new years... Its possible (I live in Houston), but difficult as the outside temp tends to mess with cooking times something fierce.
Highs in the upper 70's to low 80's this weekend in C FL is sending my friends and I to my beach house for New Year's Eve celebrations. Not only warm but increasingly humid as well as a front stalls nearby.
Quoting Jeff9641:
Highs in the upper 70's to low 80's this weekend in C FL is sending my friends and I to my beach house for New Year's Eve celebrations. Not only warm but increasingly humid as well as a front stalls nearby.


How warm will it be Sunday for my return?
Quoting jeffs713:

Um.. YUM!

Wish it was easier to BBQ down here on new years... Its possible (I live in Houston), but difficult as the outside temp tends to mess with cooking times something fierce.
i use a propane gas BBQ been BBQ'ing in - 20 degree weather and snow flying but it works just takes a little longer my landscapers thinks its great when they come by and they can throw steak on kaiser its great on a cold night outside working cleaning snow done it lots during our winters
Quoting caneswatch:


How warm will it be Sunday for my return?


78 to 82 and humid!
Quoting caneswatch:


How warm will it be Sunday for my return?
lets just say flip flops and shorts are not out of the question
in southern ontario we should be approaching high 40 maybe 50 with periods of rain fri and saturday then sunday a zonal flow with back to below freezing temps
Quoting Jeff9641:


78 to 82 and humid!


Sweet. 37 here in the backwoods now, and it feels nice enough outside to go without a jacket. But still, I would love to be wearing shorts, a shirt, and flip-flops.