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Late-season Nor'easter socks Northeast U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:27 PM GMT on April 23, 2012

Heavy snow, high winds, and torrential rains are lashing the Northeast U.S. today, thanks to a powerful late-season Nor'easter approaching New York from the south. Wind gusts of 54 mph and 58 mph were recorded last night at New York City's La Guardia Airport and Staten Island, and heavy rains of 2 - 4 inches have been common across Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Southeast New York since Sunday. The 2.45" that fell at Central Park in New York City yesterday broke the old record of 1.80" for the date set in 1969. The heavy rains are a boon for the region, which is under moderate to severe drought. The storm delayed the arrival of the space shuttle Enterprise, which was due to be flown into New York City's JFK Airport today and loaded on a barge to be shipped to the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum on the Hudson River. The flight is now scheduled for Wednesday.


Figure 1. A late-season Nor'easter takes aim at the Northeast U.S. in this satellite image taken at 9:31 am EDT 4/23/12. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Heavy snow belting PA, NY, and WV
The big story with this Nor'easter is the heavy snow falling in Western Pennsylvania, Western New York, and the higher elevations in West Virginia. Wet, heavy snow of 6 - 12 inches will be common, particularly at elevations higher than 2,000 feet. Up to a foot of snow had already fallen in the Allegany Mountains of Western Pennsylvania as of 11 am EDT this morning, and 8.5" in the mountains of New York, according to the latest NWS Storm Summary. The wet, heavy snow is falling on regions where trees have already come into leaf, thanks to the surprise "Summer in March" heat wave that brought 80° temperatures to the Northeast over a month ago. High winds will accompany today's snow, and extensive tree damage and power outages can be expected. Winds have gusted as high as 39 mph this morning in Rochester, NY. Sustained north to northeast winds blowing off of Lake Ontario are expected to rise to 40 mph later today, creating waves up to 14 feet high, causing lake shore flooding problems.

History of late season snowfalls
Wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt made a post last year on Record Late Season Snowfalls. He documents that the latest measurable snow in Buffalo, NY was 0.1" on May 20, 1907. Not including today, Buffalo has had ten calendar day snow events of an inch or more after the date of April 22nd. Recent events include May 7th, 1989 when 7.9 inches fell, and April 24th, 2005 when 1.2 inches of snow fell. In Rochester, NY, such events are slightly more common, with 18 such events of one inch of snow or greater after April 22nd. Recent events include April 25th, 1983, when 3.5 inches of snow fell, May 7th, 1989 when 10.7 inches of snow fell, and May 12th 1996, when 1.1 inches fell.

Two major Nor'easters this season: one in October, one in April
What's crazy about this Nor'easter is that it is only the second significant Nor'easter of the 2011 - 2012 snow season. The other major Nor'easter occurred October 30 - 31. It's pretty bizarre to have your only two significant Nor'easters of the season occur in October and April--and none in November, December, January, February, and March. I talked to a weather disaster expert in the insurance industry last week, who told me that NOAA's National Climatic Data Center will probably end up classifying last year's October 30 - 31 Nor'easter as 2011's fifteenth billion-dollar weather disaster.

Record April heat in Phoenix and Las Vegas
As is often the case when a major Nor'easter is affecting the Eastern U.S., the jet stream is contorted to bring a strong ridge of high pressure over the Western U.S., accompanied by record-breaking heat. Phoenix, Arizona hit 105°F yesterday, its tying its record for hottest April temperature (previous 105° April temperatures occurred on 4/20/1989 and 4/29/1992.) Las Vegas, Nevada hit 99°F yesterday, the hottest temperature on record for so early in the year, and tied for the hottest April temperature on record. The mercury climbed to a scorching 113° in Death Valley yesterday, a record for the date, and the hottest temperature measured in the U.S. so far in 2012.

Jeff Masters
Heavy snow
Heavy snow
Heavy snow. Schools closed. April 23, 2012
Approaching...
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Space Shuttles Enterprise(on left) and Discovery(on right) sit nose to nose. Enterprise will be transferred to The Intrepid Museum in NYC on Monday.
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Garrett Co., MD
April 23, 2012

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Reader Comments

Good to see the Eastern Texas and now the Northeast get some VERY beneficial rainfall this season.  Now attention turns to the Upper Midwest around Iowa, add Western Texas and Florida as well, as they are in dire need of rains too. 


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8-14 

crazy snowstorm for later april!!
I actually saw snow in Fairfax, VA around 9:15 this morning mixed with the rain. No joke. Never have I seen snow this late in my life!!!
Thanks Dr. Masters....Good morning all

April 23, 2012 SST Anomaly

Topsy-turvy weather. Again.

Speaking of which: I see that Palm Springs, CA, reached 107 yesterday, but a cold front later this week (illustrated in comment #3) is expected to bring a cooling rainfall to many nearby locations, and even snow to the 6000' level of the mountains just west of town.
Good morning to all. The Climate Prediction Center update of ENSO is out and offers some mini surprises for those who expect El Nino to rear it's head by early summer. Go to my ENSO blog to see the details.

Link
Quoting NEFL:
Funny we dont see StormTracker on here this morning. I wonder why? Maybe because of all the hype, doom and gloom he spoon fed everyone for a week didnt pan out. I wonder if his rain gauge got 6" like he predicted. I see the HPC was right on with 1-3". It was a bust event, from a model standpoint for FL, and hence the problem with hyping models. Mother Nature is smarter than us. Poof!


What if I told you that he might be too busy to be on this blog this morning?

And also, you might get the poof for personal attacks on him, as he is a generally respected member of the blog...
New Interview: Fukushima poses lethal risk to US West Coast, says Senator — Another bomb waiting to go off — Extreme nuclear vulnerability, especially in Reactor No. 4

April 23rd, 2012 at 5:29 am ET
Source: Oregonian
Author: Editorial Board
Date: Apr. 23, 2012

Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden’s recent daylong field trip from Tokyo to the zone of Japan’s nuclear devastation is worth at least a week in the telling. Bunny-suited with a breathing device for protection against radiation exposure, Wyden walked through the ruined Fukushima Dai-ichi complex and saw what few from the West have seen: another bomb waiting to go off.

The senator is not typically alarmist. But his field notes, followed by letters to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Energy Secretary Steven Chu, signal alarm. They paint a picture of extreme nuclear vulnerability, especially in Reactor No. 4 [...]

Wyden completed his tour by asking Japan, with written urgings for help from Clinton and Chu, to sharply speed up a cleanup expected to take 10 more years. His fear is that another big seismic event will trigger another disaster before the cleanup is completed — exposing Oregon and the West Coast to potentially lethal risk.

“What we learned the first time is that radioactivity leaks out quickly,” he told The Oregonian Friday. “If (No. 4) ruptures now, it gets into the air, and that’s very troubling to us in Oregon. This must not happen.” [...]

Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
Good morning to all. The Climate Prediction Center update of ENSO is out and offers some mini surprises for those who expected El Nino to rear it's head by early summer. Go to my ENSO blog to see the details.

Link

You can see the cooling from the image I posted above
Brave new world. Modis satellite photos yesterday. Pacific off the US coast. The storm is going south, as planned.



Thanks DRM. I know it got a lot colder here after the weather blew through Friday. We've been plum cold in the mornings! And my son picked the best time to visit Phoenix! He just couldn't believe how hot it was there. And that boy's Texas coastal born and bred. Lol.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


What if I told you that he might be too busy to be on this blog this morning?

And also, you might get the poof for personal attacks on him, as he is a generally respected member of the blog...

By whom? I respect him as a person (as I do pretty much everyone), but as a blogger, I don't have much respect for his forecasts, due to the extreme hype and constant repeating of similar topics (the wet season starting, wanting stuff to come his way, reporting minute changes in the weather status, etc.). I also suspect that I am not alone in this sentiment, but just the most vocal.

That said, I have no issues with him as a person at all (he isn't abusive, like some other bloggers we've known)... just the content he posts as a blogger.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


What if I told you that he might be too busy to be on this blog this morning?

And also, you might get the poof for personal attacks on him, as he is a generally respected member of the blog...


Thanks man, very busy at work as I had to take Friday off to get my wisdom teeth pulled out. In lots of pain and may have to leave early today. I did pick up 3.47" from Thursday thru Sunday morning with most of that being on Friday. Other than that this was a non event compared to what the models had said would happen but we still got some good rain which is good. I see you guys have gotten in on some benefical rains as well.
Quoting wxmod:
Brave new world. Modis satellite photos yesterday. Pacific off the US coast. The storm is going south, as planned.




You do realize what "contrails" are, right? And that SFO/LAX are two of the largest departing airports for flights to the Far East that would go over that area, right?
Just because I don't know what to make of it...
The...Arctic region is home to large reservoirs of methane,a potent greenhouse gas. As Earth's climate warms, the methane, frozen in reservoirs stored in Arctic tundra soils or marine sediments, is vulnerable to being released into the atmosphere, where it can add to global warming. Now a...study...has uncovered a surprising and potentially important new source of Arctic methane: the ocean itself
Quoting jeffs713:

By whom? I respect him as a person (as I do pretty much everyone), but as a blogger, I don't have much respect for his forecasts, due to the extreme hype and constant repeating of similar topics (the wet season starting, wanting stuff to come his way, reporting minute changes in the weather status, etc.). I also suspect that I am not alone in this sentiment, but just the most vocal.

That said, I have no issues with him as a person... just the content he posts as a blogger.


What is your problem? I never said the wet season has started or starting as there is another handle out there similar to mine trying to mock my post for whatever reason so maybe you should look at someones handle closely before assuming. Maybe that is why your post never show as you always want to further your agenda.
Later all
Quoting aspectre:
Just because I don't know what to make of it...
The...Arctic region is home to large reservoirs of methane... As Earth's climate warms, the methane, frozen in reservoirs stored in Arctic tundra soils or marine sediments, is vulnerable to being released into the atmosphere, where it can add to global warming. Now a...study...has uncovered a surprising and potentially important new source of Arctic methane: the ocean itself.

Not surprising, as dissolved gases are present in just about any water sample. It is interesting that there is more gas dissolved in Arctic waters, but at the same time, if there is solid methane at the bottom... it makes sense that it would dissolve into the nearest water, and not migrate to the tropics (where there is warmer water, and therefore more dissolved gases).
Quoting StormTracker2K:


What is your problem? I never said the wet season has started or starting as there is another handle out there similar to mine trying to mock my post for whatever reason so maybe you should look at someones handle closely before assuming. Maybe that is why your post never show as you always want to further your agenda.

Understood. I will look back on the blogs and see if I can find the posts I'm speaking of.

As you replied so quickly, and in a civil manner, please accept my apologies if I offended - it was not my intent to offend you.
Quoting nigel20:

You can see the cooling from the image I posted above


It looks like the recent Kelvin Wave didn't warm enough the Pacific to bring El Nino by early Summer.Let's see if the next wave warms the Pacific enough to reach El Nino thresholds or it stays as it is now.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Topsy-turvy weather. Again.

Speaking of which: I see that Palm Springs, CA, reached 107 yesterday, but a cold front later this week (illustrated in comment #3) is expected to bring a cooling rainfall to many nearby locations, and even snow to the 6000' level of the mountains just west of town.


That heat is coming east too! Look at this!

Quoting jeffs713:

Understood. I will look back on the blogs and see if I can find the posts I'm speaking of.

As you replied so quickly, and in a civil manner, please accept my apologies if I offended - it was not my intent to offend you.


There is another handle out there and this guy has constantly mocked my post saying the wet season is starting and it's getting old already.
Quoting StormTracker2K:


That heat is coming east too! Look at this!


By the 8-14 day run that area of warm anomaly is reduced considerably, though still present, not near to the extent as you have depicted above.
 


5.15" of rain for April, look to close the month out dry as no rain is coming for a solid week. Gotta get rain every week. Hill country should be going down hill now.
Quoting jeffs713:

You do realize what "contrails" are, right? And that SFO/LAX are two of the largest departing airports for flights to the Far East that would go over that area, right?


I'm well informed on contrails. I suggest you become well informed on chemtrails and weather modification. To start with, you might want to look up now and then.
20 jeffs713: Not surprising, as dissolved gases are present in just about any water sample. It is interesting that there is more gas dissolved in Arctic waters, but at the same time, if there is solid methane at the bottom...

They've been taking air samples for the study. And the headscratcher pointed out in the article is that seabed methane clathrates in those well-offshore regions are too deep, under too much pressure for any simple warming (to the temperatures actually measured down there) to release the methane through clathrate-melting.
Hence the speculation that greater*bacterial activity is producing methane.

What I don't get is how the study manages to separate land-released and near-shore/shallow-released methane (partially dissolving into the seawater, then dispersing into the rest of the ArcticOcean) from what they label as off-shore/ocean methane.

* Possibly attributable to warming seawater and more photosynthesis due to albedo loss mixed with greater mineral/nutrient runoff from land due to higher CO2 acidification of precipitation... as well as mineral/nutrient production through the more acidic seawater's interaction with the sea bed.
27. lol. OK.

Contrails form when engine exhaust meets very cold air and the water vapor in the exhaust (which is a result of normal combustion in the turbine) reaches the air's saturation point. This causes the water vapor to condense into small ice crystals very similar to cirrus clouds. Contrails happen generally over 26,000 feet, when ambient air temps at that altitude are below -40C.

As for your chemtrails... The government conspiracy blog is down the hall, 2nd door on the right. Its the one with the stack of tin foil hats next to the door.
Quoting jeffs713:

You do realize what "contrails" are, right? And that SFO/LAX are two of the largest departing airports for flights to the Far East that would go over that area, right?
no, i'm afraid not.. with those words "as planned" i've finally decided enough is enough.
bummer.. i liked the convenience of seeing china smog regularly... i mean, awareness IS important!!
but rationality is too..
Quoting aspectre:
20 jeffs713: Not surprising, as dissolved gases are present in just about any water sample. It is interesting that there is more gas dissolved in Arctic waters, but at the same time, if there is solid methane at the bottom...

They've been taking air samples for the study. And the headscratcher pointed out in the article is that seabed methane clathrates in those well-offshore regions are too deep, under too much pressure for any simple warming (to the temperatures actually measured down there) to release the methane through clathrate-melting.
Hence the speculation that greater*bacterial activity is producing methane.

What I don't get is how the study manages to separate land-released methane and shallow near-shore released methane (partially dissolving into the seawater, then dispersing into the rest of the ArcticOcean) from what they label as off-shore methane.

* Possibly attributable to warming seawater due to albedo loss mixed with greater mineral/nutrient runoff from land due to higher CO2 acidification of precipitation... as well as mineral/nutrient production through the more acidic seawater's interaction with the sea bed.
Well, here are a couple thoughts...

First, even at very cold temperatures, water is the best solvent, so methane clathrate can still become a solute. Bacterial activity makes quite a bit of sense, as with warming there would be more open water (less ice), which would promote greater algal activity. As for the land side, its similar... less snow cover, warmer temps = more bacterial activity.

I don't know how they an without a doubt label a portion of methane as land-based or ocean-based. We get pollution from China impacting the US... why not methane from 100 miles away, even accounting for dispersion?
Quoting jeffs713:
27. lol. OK.

Contrails form when engine exhaust meets very cold air and the water vapor in the exhaust (which is a result of normal combustion in the turbine) reaches the air's saturation point. This causes the water vapor to condense into small ice crystals very similar to cirrus clouds. Contrails happen generally over 26,000 feet, when ambient air temps at that altitude are below -40C.

As for your chemtrails... The government conspiracy blog is down the hall, 2nd door on the right. Its the one with the stack of tin foil hats next to the door.
The fact that you said" tin foil " makes me wonder how old you are. I still say tin foil, although I have not seen any in over thirty years..:)
Quoting wxmod:


I'm well informed on contrails. I suggest you become well informed on chemtrails and weather modification. To start with, you might want to look up now and then.


Didnt think that people actually thought that our atmosphere, one of the most robust and complex entities on earth, could be manipulated by man who cant even forecast three days out. Whomever is that smart... Please Stand Up, Please Stand Up!
Quoting NEFL:


I'm waiting for you to post a 15 day model showing the rainy season for FL to start. Can you please post it? Anything to hype today Jeff, Rasta? I find it weird the NWS stations in and around Orlando have no where near 3.47" of rain. Must be a made up number in your head, or a rain gauge at your house underneath your gutter bottom.


It's funny how you think I'm someone that I'm not. Maybe you should go back to bunkerville and cause trouble over there. BY the way there are lots of totals around here of over 3" with Sanford being one of them which is 30 minutes from me.

Have a great day guys as I have to get back at work! Too bad that such a great blog has to tarnished by a few people while there are so many great bloggers on here and some I call friends.
Quoting WDEmobmet:


Didnt think that people actually thought that our atmosphere, one of the most robust and complex entities on earth, could be manipulated by man who cant even forecast three days out.

Still much learning to do.
Quoting jeffs713:
27. lol. OK.

Contrails form when engine exhaust meets very cold air and the water vapor in the exhaust (which is a result of normal combustion in the turbine) reaches the air's saturation point. This causes the water vapor to condense into small ice crystals very similar to cirrus clouds. Contrails happen generally over 26,000 feet, when ambient air temps at that altitude are below -40C.

As for your chemtrails... The government conspiracy blog is down the hall, 2nd door on the right. Its the one with the stack of tin foil hats next to the door.


This is not "government conspiracy". If you watch Pacific storms every day, you would see exactly how this chemistry works. There are plenty of government websites that will help you understand the water problems of the southwest USA and the need and drive for weather modification. You are so sure that you're point of view is right that you refuse to look. That's not the mind of a scientist. Furthermore, you have not looked carefully at my satellite photos: the top photo shows ship trails at sea level, as is being experimented with by the Steven Salter brigade funded by Bill Gates ( I first found out about Steven Salter on guess what: Weather Underground!). Look it up.
Quoting aspectre:
20 jeffs713: What I don't get is how the study manages to separate land-released methane and shallow near-shore released methane (partially dissolving into the seawater, then dispersing into the rest of the ArcticOcean) from what they label as off-shore methane.

*

"By comparing locations of the enhanced methane levels with airborne measurements of carbon monoxide, water vapor and ozone, they pinpointed a source: the ocean surface, through cracks in Arctic sea ice and areas of partial sea ice cover. The cracks expose open Arctic seawater, allowing the ocean to interact with the air, and methane in the surface waters to escape into the atmosphere. The team detected no enhanced methane levels when flying over areas of solid ice."

That's from the article.
Quoting hydrus:
The fact that you said" tin foil " makes me wonder how old you are. I still say tin foil, although I have not seen any in over thirty years..:)

I'm just 31...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat
Quoting hydrus:
The fact that you said" tin foil " makes me wonder how old you are. I still say tin foil, although I have not seen any in over thirty years..:)

"Tin foil hat" is the meme.

Feel the meme, be the meme.
Quoting bappit:

"By comparing locations of the enhanced methane levels with airborne measurements of carbon monoxide, water vapor and ozone, they pinpointed a source: the ocean surface, through cracks in Arctic sea ice and areas of partial sea ice cover. The cracks expose open Arctic seawater, allowing the ocean to interact with the air, and methane in the surface waters to escape into the atmosphere. The team detected no enhanced methane levels when flying over areas of solid ice."

That's from the article.

The article which I only skimmed over, and did not read in its entirety... which is probably stupid on my part.

That said... interesting find nonetheless.
Quoting wxmod:


You are so sure that you're point of view is right that you refuse to look. That's not the mind of a scientist.


...nor is believing something with little evidence and setting on one source when the more likely explanation points a different direction. The need for different climatic conditions in certain portions of the world is nowhere near a physical mechanism by which those climates could be changed, nor is it evidence that it has been - or is being - done.

People see patterns in everything... numbers, the sky, longwave ridges/troughs, but that doesn't mean that one exists. We've known that planes cause contrails for some time. There is evidence to suggest that frequently-traveled ship corridors can change the microscale weather in the area enough to be observable. These things happen through known physical mechanisms that do not require chemicals or weather-changing plots.

Focusing on the smaller-scale to support a belief without looking at the big picture gets many in trouble... it's an unfortunate trap of many climate science skeptics, as well. For serial confusers, it is their direct M.O., and there is a reason for this!
We got three inches of rain here in St. Augustine between Saturday 6:00 pm and Sunday 7:00 pm per my unofficial but seemingly accurate rain gauge.
Quoting Autistic2:
We got three inches of rain here in St. Augustine between Saturday 6:00 pm and Sunday 7:00 pm per my unofficial but seemingly accurate rain gauge.


Do yall have St Augustine grass in St Augustine?
Quoting RitaEvac:


Do yall have St Augustine grass in St Augustine?


Yes and it needs cutting one a week in the summer. Beatfull grass but alot of cutting, thats when the young men needing gas for thiere first truck com in handy :)
Quoting Autistic2:


Yes and it needs cutting one a week in the summer. Beatfull grass but alot of cutting, thats when the young men needing gas for thiere first truck com in handy :)


If it rains a lot in the summer, I've had to cut it twice a week,
Quoting wxmod:
Brave new world. Modis satellite photos yesterday. Pacific off the US coast. The storm is going south, as planned.





Strange Contrails or Chem-trails depending on who you ask. Coincidence? I'll let you be the judge.
Quoting RitaEvac:


If it rains a lot in the summer, I've had to cut it twice a week,

Bermuda grows crazily fast, too.
Quoting bappit:

"Tin foil hat" is the meme.

Feel the meme, be the meme.
HHHAAAA...Om mani padme hum....Om mani padme hum......
Quoting jeffs713:

I'm just 31...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat
Enjoy your 30,s as they will go quick..:)
wxmod. I appreciate the daily updates of smog and contrails. I personally can't help but look at the images and think they affect the weather at some level and are likely to cause some sort of chain reaction. There's been plenty of research done to confirm this. Research on the mechanisms of contrail expansion, smog layers, and particulate in relation to the formation and suppression of certain cloud types, precipitation, and light levels etc.

However, I have a hard time with the "as planned" certainty of your argument. Even despite articles such this, and despite the broad and evident research, proposals, funding, think tanks, etc. in regards to various bio and climate engineering projects and schemes.

While I have no doubts there are research projects going on I'm doubtful as to the level of planning and organization that you seem so certain of.

I think, maybe wrongly, that you are giving the powers that be too much credit in timeline, coordination, and technology levels but I definitely appreciate the images, names, and resources that you post.
Quoting hydrus:
Enjoy your 30,s as they will go quick..:)
Crap, I was thinking the same thing for my twenties, as I am about to turn 30, the last ten years have flown by at a ridiculous rate!
Maybe one could do a personal entry on weather mod in a Blog here, as to not tie up Dr. Masters entry with it all the time.

That way you get the message out and you wont have to defend oneself here.
oh..that GFS..(the very last 384 frame)

Quoting bappit:

"Tin foil hat" is the meme.

Feel the meme, be the meme.


for what its worth, i often call it tin foil...and its not associated with the meme whatsoever....im 30.
Good Afternoon folks, does anyone have the rainfall totals for the Tampa bay area, pinellas total i really need for this past weekend, thanks in advance, my guess is, since it simply poured here that pinellas might be close to 3 inches or more when all is totaled up..
Ya know, NEFL, I've never seen you do anything around here except target specific bloggers for non-stop harassment. Which makes me wonder whether you are just another pseudonym for a longtime troll who amongst other things likes to use names-faked-to-be-similar-to-those-of-regulars in his attempts to ignite flamewars.
Quoting LargoFl:
Good Afternoon folks, does anyone have the rainfall totals for the Tampa bay area, pinellas total i really need for this past weekend, thanks in advance, my guess is, since it simply poured here that pinellas might be close to 3 inches or more when all is totaled up..
never mind i found it..2.67 inches, thats pretty good cause we were so dry before it came.........................
Quoting nigel20:

You can see the cooling from the image I posted above


It has been discussed before, but it's just part of the stair-stepping process that occurs as we transition from La Nina to El Nino or vice versa. We normally don't see anomalies crash and burn or shoot through the roof immediately. There are too many variables in the ocean and the atmosphere to go in a straight line from one to another. Think of it as taking a road trip. You'll probably stop at several different places along the way to your final destination, but in the end you make it to that destination. The stops were your variables to your actual path.

I'm afraid the end result is going to be El Nino, but just how strong is anyone's guess. If you're a believer in the Euro, then you should expect a moderate El Nino. Everything should unfold in the next few months and we won't have to guess anymore!
gee we are getting some pretty strong wind gusts here along the west coast of florida..one was 30 mph.......................
Quoting LargoFl:
Good Afternoon folks, does anyone have the rainfall totals for the Tampa bay area, pinellas total i really need for this past weekend, thanks in advance, my guess is, since it simply poured here that pinellas might be close to 3 inches or more when all is totaled up..


Daily totals, you will have to click through "previous version" to see each day.

Link
Quoting LargoFl:
Good Afternoon folks, does anyone have the rainfall totals for the Tampa bay area, pinellas total i really need for this past weekend, thanks in advance, my guess is, since it simply poured here that pinellas might be close to 3 inches or more when all is totaled up..


Try water.weather.gov -> Precipitation

http://water.weather.gov/precip/index.php?yday=13 35139200&yday_analysis=0&layer[]=0&layer[]=1&layer []=4&timetype=RECENT&loctype=STATE&units=engl&time frame=last7days&product=observed&loc=stateFL

...or
Hourly NWS multisensor best-estimate:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge2/RFC_Precip/
Quoting ILwthrfan:

Wait'll you hit 50 and the Grim Reaper starts showing up to your birthday parties. He just stands there, point and laughing.

He no longer receives Christmas cards from me.
Quoting redux:


for what its worth, i often call it tin foil...and its not associated with the meme whatsoever....im 30.
Your Mom and Dad probably said " tinfoil " and there Mom and Dad, and there Mom and Dad as did mine...Excerpt...Foil made from a thin leaf of tin was commercially available before its aluminum counterpart. In the late 19th century and early 20th century, tin foil was in common use, and some people continue to refer to the new product by the name of the old one. Tin foil is stiffer than aluminum foil. It tends to give a slight tin taste to food wrapped in it, which is a major reason it has largely been replaced by aluminium and other materials for wrapping food.

Tin foil was used as a filling for tooth cavities prior to the 20th century.

The first audio recordings on phonograph cylinders were made on tin foil.

Tin was first replaced by aluminium starting in 1910, when the first aluminium foil rolling plant, “Dr. Lauber, Neher & Cie., Emmishofen.” was opened in Kreuzlingen, Switzerland. The plant, owned by aluminium manufacturers J.G. Neher & Sons, started in 1886 in Schaffhausen, Switzerland, at the foot of the Rhine Falls—capturing the falls’ energy to produce aluminium. Neher's sons together with Dr. Lauber discovered the endless rolling process and the use of aluminium foil as a protective barrier.
Quoting hydrus:

The wikipedia article is titled "Tin Foil Hat". I rest my case.

Here's the definition of a meme from Wikipedia.

A meme (play /%u02C8mi%u02D0m/; MEEM)[1]) is "an idea, behavior or style that spreads from person to person within a culture."

Edit: sort of like the hook on the car door. Seems like variations on paranoia make the best memes.
Quoting NEFL:
Funny we dont see StormTracker on here this morning. I wonder why? Maybe because of all the hype, doom and gloom he spoon fed everyone for a week didnt pan out. I wonder if his rain gauge got 6" like he predicted. I see the HPC was right on with 1-3". It was a bust event, from a model standpoint for FL, and hence the problem with hyping models. Mother Nature is smarter than us. Poof!


I got .7 inches in downtown Orlando. .63 of that came in the 2-3am storms.
Even if the contrails and ship trails are for weather modification purposes, I'm sure they're only present because the government is trying to offset catastrophic climate change by increasing the earth's albedo, so we should be thankful for that.

I mean you don't really think the powers that be would be doing nothing to combat climate change as it might appear to an outsider.
Quoting Patrap:
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!




A picture of better time between Tornado and Electra the lightning bolt.

It was a evening like any other evening. Tornado had just gotten up after a full day of rest and daytime heating. After eating a bowl of instant Instability and Moisture and swallowing a glass of cool refreshing Dry Air, Tornado got ready for the night.

He mosied on down to a popular (and noisy) little night spot called "The Ground". The usual suspects were there. Over at the bar was Hail Core, giving everyone the cold shoulder. In the corner was Torrential Downpour, always crying into his drink. Cumula Nimbus, always the large matronly and rowdy barkeep, was serving her drinks to the patrons. And of course, Wall Cloud and Straightline Winds were tangling it up on the dance floor.

"Hey Tornado! What'll ya have?" Cumula Nimbus hollered over the noise.

"Give me a Flying Farmyard and a Twisted Trailer." Tornado said cheerily as he made his way over the bar. Cumula nodded and started making the drinks while he idly started munching on Earth and Tree mix Cumula kept on the bar.

As Cumula served the drinks, she said "Hey, that new girl over there has been eyeing you."

Tornado turned and saw a sultry lightning bolt gazing at him. She had curves all over, and he could feel the static from across the room. She had a wild and chaotic air about her, which he found intoxicating.

"I here she can fork like nobody's business too," Cumula said with a knowing wink.

"I think I'll go talk to her," Tornado said to a smiling Cumula, and strutted on over.

"I couldn't help but notice you looking at me. What's your name?" Tornado asked.

"Electra. Electra Cution." She said, idly nibbling on a radio tower antenna, "Why don't you take me for a spin big guy!".

It was magic. Soon after, they got married. And, not surprisingly, it wasn't long before Electra and Tornado had a bevy of bouncing baby Ball Lightnings. They were happy, but as often happens, it wasn't long before hard times fell.

The Cold Front, the trusted and reliable company that employed everyone in the area, was pulling up stakes. Rumor had it that there was a lot of high pressure forcing Cold Front to outsource overseas. The Jet-Stream that once roared with life was becoming an empty road. It was getting harder and harder to find a place where a guy like Tornado could put his feet down and do some honest work. Even "The Ground" was becoming vacant, with only Cumula and Downpour being regulars there.

Tornado fell into depression and started drinking. First it was just occasional, a pond here, a lake there. Then it became frequent. He became just a shadow of what he formerly was. He drank so much that he got the nickname "Waterspout".

Electra, too, suffered. After she lost her job, she had let herself go. Her once sleek form now curving and arcing way more than it used to. She barely ever leaves the house now, addicted to Storm Chaser videos showing Wedge Tornadoes.

Of course, once they had both lost their jobs they couldn't care for their children, so Storm Services put them up for adoption. The kids are doing well, though they are scattered across the Midwest (one apparently went on to study abroad in England last year).

Eventually both Tornado and Electra dissipated, along with Cumula and everyone else who used to frequent "The Ground". Without the Cold Front, it really was only a matter of time before the whole place vanished into blue skies.

And that, my friends, is why I never get good thunderstorms in my area. :D
There are dedicated, secret teams acting now as we blog holding mirrors up to relect sunlight back to outer space. It comes from outer space, you know.

Edit: "Relect" is a technical term.
Quoting bappit:

The wikipedia article is titled "Tin Foil Hat". I rest my case.

Here's the definition of a meme from Wikipedia.

A meme (play /ˈmiːm/; MEEM)[1]) is "an idea, behavior or style that spreads from person to person within a culture."
Lol..Stop bein so meem Bap..I remember using tin foil. It did leave flavor on food as did tin cans, but tin foil was tougher, and worked better for the the all to common broken tv antenna back then.
Good afternoon all. Wonderful story Xyrus 2000. where is your area?
Yet another front into the Caribbean Sea..3 day..
That entire "chemtrail" issue (white unmarked airplanes spraying in the upper atmosphere on a regular basis for some type of secret agenda weather-mod project) has pretty much been debunked. High altitude contrails are the result of regular commercial airline traffic (and pictures showing the contrails) does not a global conspiracy make. Same kind of argument(pictures of doughnuts on a rope contrails) was made to argue for the existence of new "pulse detonation" engine hypersonic aircraft but the doughnut on a rope contrail is a naturally occurring event as the contrail degrades.

Quoting kwgirl:
Good afternoon all. Wonderful story Xyrus 2000. where is your area?


Maryland. And contrary to the story, we do occasionally get a good storm (and the odd hurricane here and there).

For some reason Pat's picture made me think of a couple meeting in a bar. :D
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
That entire "chemtrail" issue (white unmarked airplanes spraying in the upper atmosphere on a regular basis for some type of secret agenda weather-mod project) has pretty much been debunked. High altitude contrails are the result of regular commercial airline traffic (and pictures showing the contrails) does not a global conspiracy make. Same kind of argument(pictures of doughnuts on a rope contrails) was made to argue for the existence of new "pulse detonation" engine hypersonic aircraft but the doughnut on a rope contrail is a naturally occurring event as the contrail degrades.

I know whenever I see a contrail in the sky I look for the originator, and it is usually a commercial civilian aircraft. When the skies are real clear, I can actually see the aircraft, even though it is very tiny. And they are usually headed West to Mexico.
"Thousands of scientists from 67 countries have called for an international agreement to close the Arctic high seas to commercial fishing until research reveals more about the freshly exposed waters."Link
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
That entire "chemtrail" issue (white unmarked airplanes spraying in the upper atmosphere on a regular basis for some type of secret agenda weather-mod project) has pretty much been debunked. High altitude contrails are the result of regular commercial airline traffic (and pictures showing the contrails) does not a global conspiracy make. Same kind of argument(pictures of doughnuts on a rope contrails) was made to argue for the existence of new "pulse detonation" engine hypersonic aircraft but the doughnut on a rope contrail is a naturally occurring event as the contrail degrades.



People who believe in conspiracy theories will rarely ever change their minds no matter what kind of evidence you present.

Ironically, many of those that claim there are government conspiracies also believe the government is a joke and/or incompetent. Go figure.
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
That entire "chemtrail" issue (white unmarked airplanes spraying in the upper atmosphere on a regular basis for some type of secret agenda weather-mod project) has pretty much been debunked. High altitude contrails are the result of regular commercial airline traffic (and pictures showing the contrails) does not a global conspiracy make. Same kind of argument(pictures of doughnuts on a rope contrails) was made to argue for the existence of new "pulse detonation" engine hypersonic aircraft but the doughnut on a rope contrail is a naturally occurring event as the contrail degrades.



you really should stop trying to confuse people with facts ;-)
Quoting presslord:


you really should stop trying to confuse people with facts ;-)


Hey Press.......... :)
Quoting kwgirl:
I know whenever I see a contrail in the sky I look for the originator, and it is usually a commercial civilian aircraft. When the skies are real clear, I can actually see the aircraft, even though it is very tiny. And they are usually headed West to Mexico.


And if the sun hits the airplane just right, it looks like the flying saucer from the original Day the Earth Stood Still movie from the 50's.............
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


And if the sun hits the airplane just right, it looks like the flying saucer from the original Day the Earth Stood Still movie from the 50's.............


Best. movie. ever. made.
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


And if the sun hits the airplane just right, it looks like the flying saucer from the original Day the Earth Stood Still movie from the 50's.............
No, I have never seen that. Maybe on Fat Albert, the blimp flying over Cudjoe Key. I can tell they are civilian jet liners because they are white against the very blue of the sky. Usually the military, or government aircraft are a different color on purpose to blend with the sky. And you do have to be right under the contrail as it is being made to see the aircraft. I was amazed at how clear our sky was the first time I saw the aircraft.
This makes me sad! China, Russia, India as well as the private sector are all investing in continued space exploration.. I think maybe the insurance was too high for NASA, especially after Columbia?!
Quoting JNCali:
This makes me sad! China, Russia, India as well as the private sector are all investing in continued space exploration.. I think maybe the insurance was too high for NASA, especially after Columbia?!


Ended too soon, too abrupt with no replacement. Discovery was a good ship, sad to see her on display.
8 Ways Global Warming Is Already Changing the World
LiveScience.comBy Stephanie Pappas | LiveScience.com – Sat, Apr 21, 2012

Over the last 100 years, global temperatures have warmed by about 1.33 degrees Fahrenheit (0.74 degrees Celsius) on average. The change may seem minor, but it's happening very quickly — more than half of it since 1979, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Though it can still be difficult to tease out how much climate change plays in any given weather event, changes are occurring.

In the spirit of Earth day, here's a look at our marvelous blue marble and the ways people and other living things are responding to global warming. [50 Amazing Facts About Earth]

1. Moving the military northward

As the Arctic ice opens up, the world turns its attention to the resources below. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, 30 percent of the world's undiscovered natural gas and 13 percent of its undiscovered oil are under this region. As a result, military action in the Arctic is heating up, with the United States, Russia, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Sweden and Canada holding talks about regional security and border issues. Several nations, including the U.S., are also drilling troops in the far north, preparing for increased border patrol and disaster response efforts in a busier Arctic.

2. Altering breeding seasons

As temperatures shift, penguins are shifting their breeding seasons, too. A March 2012 study found that gentoo penguins are adapting more quickly to warmer weather, because they aren't as dependent on sea ice for breeding as other species.

It's not just penguins that seem to be responding to climate change. Animal shelters in the U.S. have reported increasing numbers of stray cats and kittens attributed to a longer breeding season for the felines.

3. High-country changes

Decreased winter snowfall on mountaintops is allowing elk in northern Arizona to forage at higher elevations all winter, contributing to a decline in seasonal plants. Elk have ravaged trees such as maples and aspens, which in turn has led to a decline in songbirds that rely on these trees for habitat.

4. Altered Thoreau's stomping grounds

The writer Henry David Thoreau once lovingly documented nature in and around Concord, Mass. Reading those diaries today has shown researchers just how much spring has changed in the last century or so.

Compared to the late 1800s, the first flowering dates for 43 of the most common plant species in the area have moved forward an average of 10 days. Other plants have simply disappeared, including 15 species of orchids.



5. Changed "high season" at national parks

When's the busiest time to see the Grand Canyon? The answer has changed over the decades as spring has started earlier. Peak national park attendance has shifted forward more than four days, on average, since 1979. Today, the highest number of visitors now swarm the Grand Canyon on June 24, compared with July 4 in 1979.

6. Genetic changes

Even fruit flies are feeling the heat. According to a 2006 study, fruit fly genetic patterns normally seen at hot latitudes are showing up more frequently at higher latitudes. According to the research, the gene patterns of Drosophila subobscura, a common fruit fly, are changing so that populations look about one degree closer in latitude to the equator than they actually are. In other words, genotypes are shifting so that a fly in the Northern Hemisphere has a genome that looks more like a fly 75 to 100 miles (120 to 161 kilometers) south.

7. Hurting polar bears

Polar bear cubs are struggling to swim increasingly long distances in search of stable sea ice, according to a 2011 study. The rapid loss of sea ice in the Arctic is forcing bears to sometimes swim up to more than 12 days at a time, the research found. Cubs of adult bears that had to swim more than 30 miles (48 kilometers) had a 45 percent mortality rate, compared with 18 percent for cubs that had to swim shorter distances.

8. More mobile animals

Species are straying from their native habitats at an unprecedented rate: 11 miles (17.6 km) toward the poles per decade. Areas where temperature is increasing the most show the most straying by native organisms. The Cetti's warbler, for example, has moved north over the last two decades by more than 90 miles (150 km)
If the government can't control the behavior of a handful of Secret Service members, what makes one think they are capable of these complex conspiracies??? Think people, think! It is impossible to keep a secret between two friends, let alone thousands of people. Once, more than one person knows a secret, it is no longer a secret.
Quoting Grothar:
If the government can't control the behavior of a handful of Secret Service memmbers, what makes one think they are capable of these complex conspiracies??? Think people, think! It is impossible to keep a secret between two friends, let alone thousands of people. Once, more than one person knows a secret, it is no longer a secret.


It isn't the government...it's the Bilderbergs...
In the northeast this winter has been defined by its beginning and end. The snowstorm in October and the one now.
Precisely.

Quoting Grothar:
If the government can't control the behavior of a handful of Secret Service memmbers, what makes one think they are capable of these complex conspiracies??? Think people, think! It is impossible to keep a secret between two friends, let alone thousands of people. Once, more than one person knows a secret, it is no longer a secret.
From ScienceNOW:

No Letup in World's Warming

Global warming contrarians remind the public that the world has not warmed all that much, if at all, during the past decade or so. But that's the atmosphere. Oceanographers with their thermometers in Earth's biggest reservoir of heat—the world's ocean—report in a paper to be published in Geophysical Research Letters that greenhouse warming has in fact been proceeding apace the past decade, not to mention the past half century. Ninety-three percent of the heat trapped by increasing greenhouse gases goes into warming the ocean, not the atmosphere. So taking the ocean's temperature is the most comprehensive way to monitor global warming. A group of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists has revised and updated their decade-old compilation of temperature measurements from the upper 2000 meters of the world's ocean. Its store of heat (red line with error bars) steadily increased over the past 20 years.
And the upper ocean has warmed so much in the past 50 years that its added heat would be enough to warm the lower atmosphere by about 36°C (thankfully a physically impossible feat).



Key Points from the paper World ocean heat content and thermosteric sea level change (0-2000), 1955-2010:

- A strong positive linear trend in exists in world ocean heat contentsince 1955
- One third of the observed warming occurs in the 700-2000 m layer of the ocean
- The warming can only be explained by the increase in atmospheric GHGs
Conspiracy theories? Again?! Oh brother.
I find it pretty interesting how global warming is sorta allowing for a new era of colonization..of the poles.

Hopefully after the colonization of the poles we can finally get around to colonizing the moon.
Quoting presslord:


It isn't the government...it's the Bilderbergs...


Hey, we only meet once a year. Leave us out it!! :)
Quoting Grothar:


Hey, we only meet once a year. Leave us out it!! :)


Gives Grothar the secret fist bump. ;)

Looks like it will be cool down there. 50s at night in the last week of April is nice!
If I am reading this correctly, looks to be another severe weather outbreak on wednesday

From Oct-8, 2009--The last time carbon dioxide levels were apparently as high as they are today — and were sustained at those levels — global temperatures were 5 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit higher than they are today, the sea level was approximately 75 to 120 feet higher than today, there was no permanent sea ice cap in the Arctic and very little ice on Antarctica and Greenland," said the paper's lead author, Aradhna Tripati, a UCLA assistant professor in the department of Earth and space sciences and the department of atmospheric and oceanic sciences.

"Carbon dioxide is a potent greenhouse gas, and geological observations that we now have for the last 20 million years lend strong support to the idea that carbon dioxide is an important agent for driving climate change throughout Earth's history," she said.

By analyzing the chemistry of bubbles of ancient air trapped in Antarctic ice, scientists have been able to determine the composition of Earth's atmosphere going back as far as 800,000 years, and they have developed a good understanding of how carbon dioxide levels have varied in the atmosphere since that time. But there has been little agreement before this study on how to reconstruct carbon dioxide levels prior to 800,000 years ago.

Tripati, before joining UCLA's faculty, was part of a research team at England's University of Oxford that developed a new technique to assess carbon dioxide levels in the much more distant past — by studying the ratio of the chemical element boron to calcium in the shells of ancient single-celled marine algae. Tripati has now used this method to determine the amount of carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere as far back as 20 million years ago.

"We are able, for the first time, to accurately reproduce the ice-core record for the last 800,000 years — the record of atmospheric C02 based on measurements of carbon dioxide in gas bubbles in ice," Tripati said. "This suggests that the technique we are using is valid. "We then applied this technique to study the history of carbon dioxide from 800,000 years ago to 20 million years ago," she said. "We report evidence for a very close coupling between carbon dioxide levels and climate. When there is evidence for the growth of a large ice sheet on Antarctica or on Greenland or the growth of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean, we see evidence for a dramatic change in carbon dioxide levels over the last 20 million years.

"A slightly shocking finding," Tripati said, "is that the only time in the last 20 million years that we find evidence for carbon dioxide levels similar to the modern level of 387 parts per million was 15 to 20 million years ago, when the planet was dramatically different."

Levels of carbon dioxide have varied only between 180 and 300 parts per million over the last 800,000 years — until recent decades, said Tripati, who is also a member of UCLA's Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics. It has been known that modern-day levels of carbon dioxide are unprecedented over the last 800,000 years, but the finding that modern levels have not been reached in the last 15 million years is new.

Prior to the Industrial Revolution of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the carbon dioxide level was about 280 parts per million, Tripati said. That figure had changed very little over the previous 1,000 years. But since the Industrial Revolution, the carbon dioxide level has been rising and is likely to soar unless action is taken to reverse the trend, Tripati said.

"During the Middle Miocene (the time period approximately 14 to 20 million years ago), carbon dioxide levels were sustained at about 400 parts per million, which is about where we are today," Tripati said. "Globally, temperatures were 5 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit warmer, a huge amount."

Tripati's new chemical technique has an average uncertainty rate of only 14 parts per million.

"We can now have confidence in making statements about how carbon dioxide has varied throughout history," Tripati said.

In the last 20 million years, key features of the climate record include the sudden appearance of ice on Antarctica about 14 million years ago and a rise in sea level of approximately 75 to 120 feet.

"We have shown that this dramatic rise in sea level is associated with an increase in carbon dioxide levels of about 100 parts per million, a huge change," Tripati said. "This record is the first evidence that carbon dioxide may be linked with environmental changes, such as changes in the terrestrial ecosystem, distribution of ice, sea level and monsoon intensity."

Today, the Arctic Ocean is covered with frozen ice all year long, an ice cap that has been there for about 14 million years.

"Prior to that, there was no permanent sea ice cap in the Arctic," Tripati said.

Some projections show carbon dioxide levels rising as high as 600 or even 900 parts per million in the next century if no action is taken to reduce carbon dioxide, Tripati said. Such levels may have been reached on Earth 50 million years ago or earlier, said Tripati, who is working to push her data back much farther than 20 million years and to study the last 20 million years in detail.

More than 50 million years ago, there were no ice sheets on Earth, and there were expanded deserts in the subtropics, Tripati noted. The planet was radically different.

Co-authors on the Science paper are Christopher Roberts, a Ph.D. student in the department of Earth sciences at the University of Cambridge, and Robert Eagle, a postdoctoral scholar in the division of geological and planetary sciences at the California Institute of Technology.

The research was funded by UCLA's Division of Physical Sciences and the United Kingdom's National Environmental Research Council.

Tripati's research focuses on the development and application of chemical tools to study climate change throughout history. She studies the evolution of climate and seawater chemistry through time.

"I'm interested in understanding how the carbon cycle and climate have been coupled, and why they have been coupled, over a range of time-scales, from hundreds of years to tens of millions of years," Tripati said.

Source: University of California - Los Angeles
Quoting yqt1001:
I find it pretty interesting how global warming is sorta allowing for a new era of colonization..of the poles.

Hopefully after the colonization of the poles we can finally get around to colonizing the moon.


Should you plan to colonize the north pole, you are going to need a bigger boat. ;-)
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9.8N/79.45W

Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
In the northeast this winter has been defined by its beginning and end. The snowstorm in October and the one now.


Because it is the beginning of the end....Dec. 21,2012. It's all been planned
Nothing to read on here today,alot of garbage."Remember the earth is a million degrees hot!"Algore 2010
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Should you plan to colonize the north pole, you are going to need a bigger boat. ;-)

south pole would be better could mine all the ice ship it out in blocks for pure 4.5 million year old water
I had a storm rain total of about 3 and a quarter inches up here... That about doubles the total I've had all year!
It was really coming down last night... Strong winds too, and even a couple rumbles of thunder.
Quoting ncstorm:
If I am reading this correctly, looks to be another severe weather outbreak on wednesday

as the rtn flow pushes all the cool air up and out
That is a ton of CAPE...



The GFS is very similar, but luckily it isn't looking like we'll see any major severe weather.
Quoting help4u:
Nothing to read on here today,alot of garbage."Remember the earth is a million degrees hot!"Algore 2010


Hi Joe Bastardi.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
That is a ton of CAPE...



The GFS is very similar, but luckily it isn't looking like we'll see any major severe weather.

The SPC is thinking it will be a mostly hail/rain event, not much in the way of tornadoes. Their day 3 wording wasn't terribly confident in severe potential.
Looks as if the heat is coming back across much of the country.

Quoting StormTracker2K:
Looks as if the heat is coming back across much of the country.


Excpet Alaska... When is the last time it was above average there? Their winter was brutal and spring isn't treating them much better.
Quoting Grothar:
If the government can't control the behavior of a handful of Secret Service members, what makes one think they are capable of these complex conspiracies??? Think people, think! It is impossible to keep a secret between two friends, let alone thousands of people. Once, more than one person knows a secret, it is no longer a secret.

That's what they want you to think. The whole embarrassment thing is just a ploy to get you to underestimate them.
Apparently yesterday was earth day. But shouldnt every day be earth day?
Quoting RitaEvac:


Because it is the beginning of the end as we know it....Dec. 21,2012. It's all been planned
Quoting ncstorm:
If I am reading this correctly, looks to be another severe weather outbreak on wednesday


Well, we'll be lucky to get ANY type of severe weather with this cap.



It strengthens as time progresses as well.
Quoting bappit:

That's what they want you to think. The whole embarrassment thing is just a ploy to get you to underestimate them.


Oh, I get it. You mean it would be like someone who always plays dumb but really isn't? They do that just to fool everybody. Gee, I have to try that sometime. :) (How you doing, babbit?)
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Well, we'll be lucky to get ANY type of severe weather with this cap.



It strengthens as time progresses as well.

Imagine if we didn't have a massive cap and combined it with the 4000 values of Cape expected in the 60 hour time frame
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Well, we'll be lucky to get ANY type of severe weather with this cap.



It strengthens as time progresses as well.

Good catch. I just checked the meteograms for OKC (Oklahoma City and Kansas City) and KKC, and omg... crazy cap.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
XX/XX/XX
9.8N/79.45W



Pretty intense convective firing, there.

And it's coming straight to TX :)
Quoting Grothar:


Oh, I get it. You mean it would be like someone who always plays dumb but really isn't? They do that just to fool everybody. Gee, I have to try that sometime. :) (How you doing, babbit?)

I think I'm okay.
Quoting redwagon:


Pretty intense convective firing, there.

And it's coming straight to TX :)
no right to fla then texas west all the way
Quoting jeffs713:

Good catch. I just checked the meteograms for OKC (Oklahoma City and Kansas City) and KKC, and omg... crazy cap.


Remember how fast our cap broke last Friday? storms plowed into us.
Quoting RitaEvac:


Remember how fast our cap broke last Friday? storms plowed into us.

There's a difference though. The capping inversion actually strengthens as time progresses, and opposed to weakening like a typical one when dealing with Severe Weather outbreaks.
Quoting RitaEvac:


Remember how fast our cap broke last Friday? storms plowed into us.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

There's a difference though. The capping inversion actually strengthens as time progresses, and opposed to weakening like a typical one when dealing with Severe Weather outbreaks.

Also, this cap is even more stout (our temps just stayed stable from surface to 750mb... on this one, the 850mb temps are actually WARMER than surface). Also, there is not a strong low coming in with associated front to bust the cap, and from what I've seen, no LFQ or RRQ of a jet to get some upper-level dynamics in play.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Topsy-turvy weather. Again.

Speaking of which: I see that Palm Springs, CA, reached 107 yesterday, but a cold front later this week (illustrated in comment #3) is expected to bring a cooling rainfall to many nearby locations, and even snow to the 6000' level of the mountains just west of town.


Well, it's spring, you get all kinds of crazy weather
it's part of the deal!
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9.8N/79.45W
Quoting sunlinepr:
New Interview: Fukushima poses lethal risk to US West Coast, says Senator — Another bomb waiting to go off — Extreme nuclear vulnerability, especially in Reactor No. 4

April 23rd, 2012 at 5:29 am ET
Source: Oregonian
Author: Editorial Board
Date: Apr. 23, 2012

Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden’s recent daylong field trip from Tokyo to the zone of Japan’s nuclear devastation is worth at least a week in the telling. Bunny-suited with a breathing device for protection against radiation exposure, Wyden walked through the ruined Fukushima Dai-ichi complex and saw what few from the West have seen: another bomb waiting to go off.

The senator is not typically alarmist. But his field notes, followed by letters to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Energy Secretary Steven Chu, signal alarm. They paint a picture of extreme nuclear vulnerability, especially in Reactor No. 4 [...]

Wyden completed his tour by asking Japan, with written urgings for help from Clinton and Chu, to sharply speed up a cleanup expected to take 10 more years. His fear is that another big seismic event will trigger another disaster before the cleanup is completed — exposing Oregon and the West Coast to potentially lethal risk.

“What we learned the first time is that radioactivity leaks out quickly,” he told The Oregonian Friday. “If (No. 4) ruptures now, it gets into the air, and that’s very troubling to us in Oregon. This must not happen.” [...]




This isn't weather! it's political hash!
Quoting trunkmonkey:


Well, it's spring, you get all kinds of crazy weather
it's part of the deal!

For some, it's rather difficult to grasp certain concepts.
Pretty good MJO pulse moving in toward the Caribbean.

More chances of rain on the way. Forecast for Orlando

Mount Etna volcano live webcam

http://www.radiostudio7.it/webcam.asp

If you want to watch Etna do its thing for the sixth time this year, check out the bevy of webcams from Radio Studio 7, INGV Catania and Etna Walk. Hard to miss a moment of the action with all these webcams %u2026 better act quick, though. These paroxysm usually only last a few hours at the most!

via Wired.com blog
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Mount Etna volcano live webcam

http://www.radiostudio7.it/webcam.asp

Are there signals that she can erupt anytime in the near future?
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Mount Etna volcano live webcam

http://www.radiostudio7.it/webcam.asp

Quoting EugeneTillman:

Are there signals that she can erupt anytime in the near future?

Mt. Etna has been continuously erupting for quite some time. Some times more vigorously than others.
Wooooooooooooooo....


67F

N winds...schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet






Quoting EugeneTillman:

Are there signals that she can erupt anytime in the near future?
She has been erupting.
Quoting Patrap:
Wooooooooooooooo....


67F

N winds...schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet







That's some dry air.
Quoting Patrap:
Wooooooooooooooo....


67F

N winds...schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet






sure is gusty here today pat
Quoting Patrap:
Wooooooooooooooo....


67F

N winds...schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet







That'll lower vertical instability for sure...

Quoting StormTracker2K:
More chances of rain on the way. Forecast for Orlando



Disgustingly Beautiful Weather Here. :)

139. LargoFl

Been here as well..kinda relaxed the last Hour though.
Quoting AtHomeInTX:


Disgustingly Beautiful Weather Here. :)



It is disgusting, reminds me of drought
Quoting AtHomeInTX:


Disgustingly Beautiful Weather Here. :)



By Sunday and Monday of next week I would assume that atleast slight chances of rain will appear in your forecast as a week cool front moves in.
Every 5 days you need rain
Someone mention rain?

"Forecasters said “power showers” hammered many parts over the weekend, with lightning and mid-air tornadoes – narrow funnel clouds stretching below thunderstorms – reported in Lincolnshire and East Anglia.
The Met Office forecast heavy rain today and torrential downpours and gales on Wednesday and Thursday.

There were warnings of localised flooding in the south and more than an inch of rain today, with close to an inch on Wednesday. Parts face two inches’ rain, their usual total for the whole of April, in just 72 hours.

The Environment Agency will consider flood warnings, but said downpours have no impact on the drought. Experts say rain has been sucked up by thirsty plants, evaporated or run off rock-hard soil.

April, set to be the wettest since 2000, has already seen 55mm of rain – more than the 54mm average for the whole month."

Link

Seems like weather like this may stretch into next month at least and maybe beyond. It'd suck immensely if the westerlies' beginning just tags right on the end of this cool, very wet period. Feel like 2007 again if it occurred.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

south pole would be better could mine all the ice ship it out in blocks for pure 4.5 million year old water
was watching a show last night on the melting ice at both poles, didnt know that if the southern one melts all the way thru(its 3 miles deep), it will raise the oceans of the world, 60 meters, IMAGINE what would happen to population centers all over the world that are coastal..NYC is one......my house is 45 feet above sea level, i think Most of this whole county, would be under water, Tampa?...gone for the most part..Miami?..poof gone..and so on..we can laugh at this global warming thing...but governments arent, they are already staking out claims to the northwest passage which if this warming continues the program said.... will be...ice free within the next 100 years...I am no scientist, just an ordinary husband and father, but this is starting to look like it would be real serious, for my grandchildren..laughing and joking aside...mother nature is perhaps starting her every 10,000 years or so, cold to hot cycle.....
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Hi Joe Bastardi.

Quoting help4u:
Nothing to read on here today,alot of garbage."Remember the earth is a million degrees hot!"Algore 2010


How ironic..
simply amazing..from 1936..........................................from JohnWorldPeace.com

Three volcanoes are mentioned in the Cayce readings as having what can be called "indicator" functions for warning people of upcoming, historically unprecedented Earth changes. The Mt. Etna area in Sicily, along with other portions of the Mediterranean area, will experience "sinking or rising" of Earth's crust. This will indicate the beginning of significant "changes in the Earth's activity." Also, Mt. Vesuvius, in Italy, and Mt. Pelée, on the Caribbean island of Martinique, are to be watched for "greater activities." When such activities occur at one or the other of these volcanoes, they will indicate that the southern coast of California -- and areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada -- will experience, within three months, "an inundation by the earthquakes." (270-35, 1/21/36)

The only mention of Mt. Etna in the Cayce readings is in reference to a 1932 question about when a change in the Earth's activity will begin to be apparent. The answer was:
When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea (that's South Pacific, to be sure), and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Aetna (Etna] area, then we may know it has begun.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
XX/XX/XL
9.8N/79.45W

Wow, interesting...
Quoting RitaEvac:


It is disgusting, reminds me of drought


Yeah it does kinda make ya nervous seeing no rain chances again. But on a brighter note we'll be getting all the humidity we can stand. Lol.
Quoting redwagon:

Pretty intense convective firing, there.

And it's coming straight to TX :)
no right to fla then texas west all the way
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
no right to fla then texas west all the way

Nice blob growth by near Panama
This isn't really weather related but I thought it was pretty cool... An all white orca whale was spotted off the east Russian coast today. You can read the whole story about it here.

Link

Here's a picture of it with its pod...

That would be the Colombian Low, I believe.
MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0582
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0339 PM CDT MON APR 23 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...SRN ORE...NRN CA...NW NV

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH UNLIKELY

VALID 232039Z - 232215Z

A MARGINAL WIND DAMAGE AND HAIL THREAT SHOULD EXIST ACROSS NRN
CA...NW NV AND SRN ORE THIS AFTERNOON. THE THREAT SHOULD REMAIN TOO
ISOLATED TO WARRANT WW ISSUANCE.

THUNDERSTORMS ARE DEVELOPING IN NRN CA AND NW NV ALONG THE ERN EDGE
OF MODERATE INSTABILITY WHERE MLCAPE VALUES ARE ESTIMATED FROM 750
TO 1200 J/KG. THE STORMS ARE INCREASING IN COVERAGE DUE TO SFC
HEATING AND TOPOGRAPHIC FORCING FROM THE SIERRA NEVADA. AS THE CELLS
SPREAD NWD INTO THE LOWER ELEVATIONS THIS AFTERNOON...STEEP LAPSE
RATES AND MODERATE DEEP LAYER SHEAR MAY BE ENOUGH FOR A HAIL THREAT.
IN ADDITION...SFC TEMPERATURE-DEWPOINT SPREADS EXCEED 40 DEGREES
ACROSS MUCH OF THE MCD AREA SUGGESTING DOWNBURSTS MAY BE ENHANCED
ENOUGH TO POSE AN ISOLATED WIND DAMAGE THREAT FOR A FEW HOURS THIS
AFTERNOON.

..BROYLES.. 04/23/2012
TROPICAL DISCUSSION - INTERNATIONAL DESKS

Excerpt:

NOTE: THERE IS A RISK OF HEAVY RAINFALL TO AFFECT DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC AND HAITI DURING THE NEXT FOUR DAYS...WITH STRONGEST
CONVECTION TO AFFECT NORTHERN SECTIONS OF THE ISLAND DURING
TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. THIS IS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION
WITH A RISK FOR FLASH FLOODS AND MUDSLIDES REMAINING THROUGH
THURSDAY.
Quoting StormTracker2K:
More chances of rain on the way. Forecast for Orlando



Oh come on, another cold front? Old man winter needs to get a grip, because it's only two months away from Summer. If it wants to get colder, do so when it's actually the time of year, not May..
The GFS makes me laugh sometimes.

But Mt Etna has been erupting frequently since the 50's.
Quoting LargoFl:
simply amazing..from 1936..........................................from JohnWorldPeace.com

Three volcanoes are mentioned in the Cayce readings as having what can be called "indicator" functions for warning people of upcoming, historically unprecedented Earth changes. The Mt. Etna area in Sicily, along with other portions of the Mediterranean area, will experience "sinking or rising" of Earth's crust. This will indicate the beginning of significant "changes in the Earth's activity." Also, Mt. Vesuvius, in Italy, and Mt. Pelée, on the Caribbean island of Martinique, are to be watched for "greater activities." When such activities occur at one or the other of these volcanoes, they will indicate that the southern coast of California -- and areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada -- will experience, within three months, "an inundation by the earthquakes." (270-35, 1/21/36)

The only mention of Mt. Etna in the Cayce readings is in reference to a 1932 question about when a change in the Earth's activity will begin to be apparent. The answer was:
When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea (that's South Pacific, to be sure), and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Aetna (Etna] area, then we may know it has begun.

Looked through the GFS and ECMWF Temperature forecasts, no sign of any more cold fronts for Florida.

Thursday onwards it's nothing but mid to upper 80s, with some 90s.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The GFS makes me laugh sometimes.

don't laugh to hard
Has the blog already begun blob watching season?.
Quoting JNCali:
Nice blob growth by near Panama


Lotta shear (SW to NE) to the north of the blob right now. Starting to show.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Has the blog already begun blob watching season?.


Not me! - fingers crossed.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Has the blog already begun blob watching season?.


Are you kidding? We began in February with 90L.
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Are you kidding? We began in February with 90L.
Oh I almost forgot about the little bugger.
Quoting docrod:


Not me! - fingers crossed.
Well May is coming up in around a week and then the almighty month of June.:P.
May 31st: Meh all the tropics look boring, like winter.
June 1st: OMG LOOK AT THE HUNDREDS OF POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT BLOBS!!!!

It's coming folks..we only have a month and a bit left...
Quoting washingtonian115:
Has the blog already begun blob watching season?.

Blobs are often more interesting than TC's.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Has the blog already begun blob watching season?.
Hello 115. There are always a few blobs to watch...Here is a nice one over Africa... West Pacific..West Central Pacific..East Pac...
Quoting bappit:

Blobs are often more interesting than TC's.

I like turtles spinning blobs.
Quoting yqt1001:
May 31st: Meh all the tropics look boring, like winter.
June 1st: OMG LOOK AT THE HUNDREDS OF POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT BLOBS!!!!

It's coming folks..we only have a month and a bit left...


Days,minutes and seconds until June 1rst countdown.

Link
Does anyone think the Atlantic could produce its first storm before the East Pac?
Quoting bappit:

Blobs are often more interesting than TC's.
Blobs do what ever they want and don't follow a specific agenda unlike T.C.Which make them even more awesome.
Quoting hydrus:
Hello 115. There are always a few blobs to watch...Here is a nice one over Africa... West Pacific..West Central Pacific..East Pac...
Hey Hydrus.I just hope nature gives a good blob to watch come June 1st like last year.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Does anyone think the Atlantic could produce its first storm before the East Pac?

It's possible. I think it has a chance.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
That would be the Colombian Low, I believe.

No, it's Bob the Blob. :D
Quoting Articuno:

No, it's Bob the Blob. :D

Nah, that's this guy...

Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Does anyone think the Atlantic could produce its first storm before the East Pac?

It's always possible, but I doubt it.

Many tropical cyclones develop within the upward pulse of the MJO due to enhanced convection. Well, that upward pulse would visit the Eastern Pacific before the Atlantic, so the only other way the Atlantic could get a storm first is off a frontal boundary.

Or, the Eastern Pacific would just not produce anything from that MJO pulse and the Atlantic would.

Probably not making any sense right now..
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It's always possible, but I doubt it.

Yeah, I'm not thinking it will, but I give it a higher than normal chance because we have a better than usual chance of an early storm in the Gulf with the warm waters there.
I remember that on the Fourth of July in Buffalo in, probably, 1973 or 74 it snow flurried. Temperature was about 37. No measurable precipitation.
67 degrees in West Central FL. with a brisk NW wind towards the end of April...and I'm so loving it!
Quoting catman306:
I remember that on the Fourth of July in Buffalo in, probably, 1973 or 74 it snow flurried. Temperature was about 37. No measurable precipitation.
Far out. But if it were to do that, Buffalo is the place. Man do they get the cold and snow.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Does anyone think the Atlantic could produce its first storm before the East Pac?
Not this year.
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Are you kidding? We began in February with 90L.


There's an off season for blob watching?
I think with the 2012 Hurricane Season predicted to be near or slightly below average, I would not be surprised to see our first named storm before June 1
My best analogue for the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season is 2002:



My best analogue for the 2012 Pacific hurricane season is 2006:



Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Mount Etna volcano live webcam

http://www.radiostudio7.it/webcam.asp

If you want to watch Etna do its thing for the sixth time this year, check out the bevy of webcams from Radio Studio 7, INGV Catania and Etna Walk. Hard to miss a moment of the action with all these webcams %u2026 better act quick, though. These paroxysm usually only last a few hours at the most!

via Wired.com blog


New toy, thanks......
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
My best analogue for the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season is 2002:



My best analogue for the 2012 Pacific hurricane season is 2006:



Dr.Grey and the crew have analog years listed as 1957, 1965, 2001 and 2009.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
My best analogue for the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season is 2002:



My best analogue for the 2012 Pacific hurricane season is 2006:


I think 2002 is good for the Atlantic except we'll probably see some June activity... I think we'll see low activity levels in the late season similar to 2002

I think 2009 is a better analogue for the East Pac season since we'll probably see a lot more than 9 storms like in 2006... I really expect a true monster out there this year, maybe even rivaling Rick from 09
Ok, so i am back from camping and it did not rain, even though at some times, we were surrounded by rain.
Me and the 1500 other i was with are thankful for that.
There were also just enough clouds to lessen the sunburn people usually get.

The next 7 days look unusually uneventful.
I have the feeling mother nature has something up her sleeve.
.
45 years ago last weekend, five twisters, three of them F4 giants descended on the Chicago area, striking so quickly that escape was all but impossible for the victims. 58 were killed, including many children, and more than 1000 were injured. In suburban Oak Lawn, where 33 perished, the twister rammed into the intersection of Southwest Highway and 95th Street at rush hour as motorists waited at a red light, throwing cars through the air. Eighteen died at that intersection alone. In Belvidere, 70 miles northwest of Chicago, a tornado hit as school was letting out. The 1200 students tried to escape back into the school, but many of the younger students were already on the buses and trapped. The tornado flipped the buses in the air and threw them into nearby fields. Six were destroyed. More than half of the 24 dead in Belvidere were children.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

I think 2002 is good for the Atlantic except we'll probably see some June activity... I think we'll see low activity levels in the late season similar to 2002

I think 2009 is a better analogue for the East Pac season since we'll probably see a lot more than 9 storms like in 2006... I really expect a true monster out there this year, maybe even rivaling Rick from 09

The 2006 Pacific hurricane season had 18 named storms.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

The 2006 Pacific hurricane season had 18 named storms.

Oh, my bad... For some reason only one map showed up at first for me... Then I just saw the other half
Hi all - sailed from Miami on Saturday and been under rain clouds and some heavy thunderstorms for the entire time until today. Logged on and there' a great picture of the weather we're sailing in. No wonder. Let's here it one again for Weather Underground.
I can see where the jetstream is in this image...can you?

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I can see where the jetstream is in this image...can you?


No, but I bet there's a huge dip in the east which would likely mean a large ridge in the west.
There's a pretty impressive cluster of storms in east Oregon... Three warned storms


Here is our Southern Eruption. Not as colorful.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
There's a pretty impressive cluster of storms in east Oregon... Three warned storms

202. MTWX
Talk about a flip-flop in weather. The temperature here in Columbus, MS topped out at 64 degrees, whereas the temp in my home town of Great Falls, MT hit a record of 88 degrees today!!
Finally back home...

Left NJ at just the right time too.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I can see where the jetstream is in this image...can you?



Very odd system

From Birmingham, AL NWS

Looking Back at One of the Most Active Severe Weather Months
in Central Alabama History


Excerpt:

April of 2011 will live in the memory of central Alabamians forever. Two major tornado outbreaks. Three different days with tornadoes. Three significant straight line wind events. Over 2000 people injured. 142 killed. Billions of dollars in damage. The NWS in Birmingham is taking a look back at that incredible month, starting with the two major tornado outbreaks:


Also, they will have a webinar on Thursday

One year after April 27, 2011 - A Conversation with the National Weather Service Birmingham
189 hydrus: Dr.Grey and the crew have analog years listed as 1957, 1965, 2001 and 2009

While I doubt that 2012 will be a LaNina year, I also have doubts about it becoming&remaining an ElNino year for the majority of the HurricaneSeason
But then, the number of storms in a season isn't really clustered around the ENSO-condition average tightly enough to assume that other factors don't have a LARGE impact.

(Excluding 2005's skew, the average of the remaining Neutral years on Dr.Masters' list is:
60/4 or 15NamedStorms; 33/4 or 8.25Hurricanes; 18/4 or 4.5Majors)
And as mentioned previously, I really hate when coincidences keep piling up...
Sunday-Monday April 15-16, 2007 Severe Long Duration Nor'easter: Heavy Elevation Snow...
207. MTWX
Tomorrow marks the 2 year anniversary of the Yazoo City tornado. This storm produced a deadly tornado that was on the ground continuously for almost 3 hours creating a path of destruction 149.25 miles in length and reaching widths of up to 1.75 miles!

Link
Quoting aspectre:
189 hydrus: Dr.Grey and the crew have analog years listed as 1957, 1965, 2001 and 2009

While I doubt that 2012 will be a LaNina year, I also have doubts about it becoming&remaining an ElNino year for the majority of the HurricaneSeason
But then, the number of storms in a season isn't really clustered around the ENSO-condition average tightly enough to assume that other factors don't have a LARGE impact.

(Excluding 2005's skew, the average of the remaining 4 neutral years on Dr.Masters' list is: 60divided-by4 or 15NamedStorms; 33divided-by4 or ~8Hurricanes; 18divided-by4 or 4to5Majors)
And as mentioned previously, I really hate when coincidences keep piling up...
Sunday-Monday April 15-16, 2007
Severe Long Duration Nor'easter: Heavy Elevation Snow, Excessive Rain, Flood Event


In case you missed the CPC update that came out today,here it is. Nino 3.4 cooled a little bit to -0.4C.

Link
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Very odd system


Gotta love Omega Block patterns...

Good evening all...what were some of the reported snowfall accumulations?
Datz a nice Kitty Kat story, thanx.


Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


In case you missed the CPC update that came out today,here it is. Nino 3.4 cooled a little bit to -0.4C.

Link

Hey Twpr I see that there is some rain in the forcast for Puerto Rico......the met service here in Jamaica lifted the flash flood watch....they are also calling for increase in showers over the island on Thursday due to a trough
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Finally back home...

Left NJ at just the right time too.


Wonderful view
Are we some of the only people in America that anticipate Hurricane season? We even set a timer that even ticks to the last second to June 1st. I guess thats why some of us are here in the first place. lol
April 22, 2011

April 22, 2012
218. txjac
I am back in Mcaltester Ok this week and I can say that the weather here is absoletely awesome ...totally beautiful, not a cloud in the sky and the temp has been perfect! Loving it here




Atlantic & Eastern Pacific Climatology

The Atlantic hurricane season runs from June 1st to November 30th, and the Eastern Pacific hurricane season runs from May 15th to November 30th. The Atlantic basin includes the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea, and Gulf of Mexico. The Eastern Pacific basin extends to 140°W.

The following figures and tables describe the progress of a typical hurricane season in terms of the total number of tropical systems and hurricanes produced throughout the year in the Atlantic and East Pacific basins.

In the figures, curves represent the average cumulative production of all named tropical systems, all hurricanes, and those hurricanes which were Category 3 or stronger in those basins.

For example, by the beginning of September in an average year we would expect to have had four named systems, two of which would be hurricanes and one of which would be of category 3 or greater in strength.

The tables list benchmark dates when a given number of tropical systems, hurricanes, or category 3 storms should have been generated.

The average cumulative number of Atlantic systems per year, 1966-2009



The average cumulative number of Eastern Pacific systems per year, 1971-2009

Here, pick a year,any year.

I'm gonna go with the parabolic Black one myself.
Link When will we see our first wave ? I see a nice area of convection over central Africa.
Quoting belizeit:
When will we see our first wave ? I see a nice area of convection over central Africa.

I'd guess sometime in mid to late May.
Quoting Grothar:
Here, pick a year,any year.


I choose the one in the middle.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Are Category 6 Hurricanes Coming Soon?


did they really draw a map showing the hurricane hitting South Carolina?..WHAT!..LOL!
Quoting Grothar:
Here, pick a year,any year.


This looks like an insect swarm....what's up Grothar?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Are Category 6 Hurricanes Coming Soon?


I always end up confused when I try and understand Accuweather.
Quoting nigel20:

This looks like an insect swarm....what's up Grothar?


Hey, Nigel.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Are Category 6 Hurricanes Coming Soon?


Given the last Category 5 hurricane in the Atlantic was almost 5 years ago, I somehow doubt it.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Are Category 6 Hurricanes Coming Soon?

i'm not saying that we should have a cat 6, but there should be modifications to the scale: such as storm surge and and size
Yesterday was the one-year anniversary of the EF4 St. Louis, MO tornado, tomorrow is the two-year anniversary of the EF4 Yazoo City, MS tornado.

FWIW. ;)



Quoting nigel20:

i'm not saying that we should have a cat 6, but there should be modifications to the scale: such as storm surge and and size

For special storms like Ike? Yeah, I agree.
Quoting ncstorm:


did they really draw a map showing the hurricane hitting South Carolina?..WHAT!..LOL!


Ouch!!
238. etxwx
Quoting Grothar:
Here, pick a year,any year.



Looks like that map needs a depilatory...
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Yesterday was the one-year anniversary of the EF4 St. Louis, MO tornado, tomorrow is the two-year anniversary of the EF4 Yazoo City, MS tornado.

FWIW. ;)




The damage was unbelievable
The high temperature on Monday in San Juan was 91F. Let's see if it climbs again on Tuesday to above 90,but maybe more cloud cover may mitigate that.

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
1004 PM AST MON APR 23 2012

.UPDATE...A GENERALLY DRY AND STABLE AIR MASS IS EXPECTED TO
PREVAIL ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS OVERNIGHT AND EARLY TOMORROW.
LATEST SATELLITE AND RADAR IMAGES THIS EVENING DEPICTED ONLY A FEW
ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SHOWERS MAINLY ACROSS THE CARIBBEAN COASTAL
WATERS. WITH A SOUTH SOUTHEAST LOW LEVEL WIND FLOW...FEW OF THESE
SHOWERS AFFECTED THE SOUTHERN SECTIONS OF PUERTO RICO. IN COMPARISON
WITH PREVIOUS DAYS...A SLIGHT INCREASE IN MOISTURE ARE EXPECTED
TOMORROW WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS AND POSSIBLE A FEW THUNDERSTORMS
ACROSS NORTH AND NORTHWEST PUERTO RICO DURING THE AFTERNOON. THE
SOUTHEAST LOW LEVEL WIND FLOW WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE WARMER THAN
NORMAL TEMPERATURES ESPECIALLY ACROSS NORTHERN PUERTO RICO DURING
THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
A major hurricane has not hit the US. since 2005,7 years maybe the longest stretch since records are kept.Could go another year without a major hit.Unbelieveable calm hurricane seasons compared too past history.
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Finally back home...

Left NJ at just the right time too.


Contracted NY for hurricane Irene damages. Leaving the northeast is always just in time. $700 a month tax on car rental for a compact, minimum of $100 a night hotel even in the Catskills for a no tell motel. Worst financial burden I have ever experienced. The only positive experience was visiting all on the Sons of the Revolution grave site I could find to honor.
Quoting help4u:
A major hurricane has not hit the US. since 2005,7 years maybe the longest stretch since records are kept.Could go another year without a major hit.Unbelieveable calm hurricane seasons compared too past history.

2008 was not calm for people in Texas after Ike or Gustav in louisiana and also the northeast last year after Irene
Quoting hydrus:
From Oct-8, 2009--The last time carbon dioxide levels were apparently as high as they are today — and were sustained at those levels — global temperatures were 5 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit higher than they are today, the sea level was approximately 75 to 120 feet higher than today, there was no permanent sea ice cap in the Arctic and very little ice on Antarctica and Greenland," said the paper's lead author, Aradhna Tripati, a UCLA assistant professor in the department of Earth and space sciences and the department of atmospheric and oceanic sciences.

"Carbon dioxide is a potent greenhouse gas, and geological observations that we now have for the last 20 million years lend strong support to the idea that carbon dioxide is an important agent for driving climate change throughout Earth's history," she said.

By analyzing the chemistry of bubbles of ancient air trapped in Antarctic ice, scientists have been able to determine the composition of Earth's atmosphere going back as far as 800,000 years, and they have developed a good understanding of how carbon dioxide levels have varied in the atmosphere since that time. But there has been little agreement before this study on how to reconstruct carbon dioxide levels prior to 800,000 years ago.

Tripati, before joining UCLA's faculty, was part of a research team at England's University of Oxford that developed a new technique to assess carbon dioxide levels in the much more distant past — by studying the ratio of the chemical element boron to calcium in the shells of ancient single-celled marine algae. Tripati has now used this method to determine the amount of carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere as far back as 20 million years ago.

"We are able, for the first time, to accurately reproduce the ice-core record for the last 800,000 years — the record of atmospheric C02 based on measurements of carbon dioxide in gas bubbles in ice," Tripati said. "This suggests that the technique we are using is valid. "We then applied this technique to study the history of carbon dioxide from 800,000 years ago to 20 million years ago," she said. "We report evidence for a very close coupling between carbon dioxide levels and climate. When there is evidence for the growth of a large ice sheet on Antarctica or on Greenland or the growth of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean, we see evidence for a dramatic change in carbon dioxide levels over the last 20 million years.

"A slightly shocking finding," Tripati said, "is that the only time in the last 20 million years that we find evidence for carbon dioxide levels similar to the modern level of 387 parts per million was 15 to 20 million years ago, when the planet was dramatically different."

Levels of carbon dioxide have varied only between 180 and 300 parts per million over the last 800,000 years — until recent decades, said Tripati, who is also a member of UCLA's Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics. It has been known that modern-day levels of carbon dioxide are unprecedented over the last 800,000 years, but the finding that modern levels have not been reached in the last 15 million years is new.

Prior to the Industrial Revolution of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the carbon dioxide level was about 280 parts per million, Tripati said. That figure had changed very little over the previous 1,000 years. But since the Industrial Revolution, the carbon dioxide level has been rising and is likely to soar unless action is taken to reverse the trend, Tripati said.

"During the Middle Miocene (the time period approximately 14 to 20 million years ago), carbon dioxide levels were sustained at about 400 parts per million, which is about where we are today," Tripati said. "Globally, temperatures were 5 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit warmer, a huge amount."

Tripati's new chemical technique has an average uncertainty rate of only 14 parts per million.

"We can now have confidence in making statements about how carbon dioxide has varied throughout history," Tripati said.

In the last 20 million years, key features of the climate record include the sudden appearance of ice on Antarctica about 14 million years ago and a rise in sea level of approximately 75 to 120 feet.

"We have shown that this dramatic rise in sea level is associated with an increase in carbon dioxide levels of about 100 parts per million, a huge change," Tripati said. "This record is the first evidence that carbon dioxide may be linked with environmental changes, such as changes in the terrestrial ecosystem, distribution of ice, sea level and monsoon intensity."

Today, the Arctic Ocean is covered with frozen ice all year long, an ice cap that has been there for about 14 million years.

"Prior to that, there was no permanent sea ice cap in the Arctic," Tripati said.

Some projections show carbon dioxide levels rising as high as 600 or even 900 parts per million in the next century if no action is taken to reduce carbon dioxide, Tripati said. Such levels may have been reached on Earth 50 million years ago or earlier, said Tripati, who is working to push her data back much farther than 20 million years and to study the last 20 million years in detail.

More than 50 million years ago, there were no ice sheets on Earth, and there were expanded deserts in the subtropics, Tripati noted. The planet was radically different.

Co-authors on the Science paper are Christopher Roberts, a Ph.D. student in the department of Earth sciences at the University of Cambridge, and Robert Eagle, a postdoctoral scholar in the division of geological and planetary sciences at the California Institute of Technology.

The research was funded by UCLA's Division of Physical Sciences and the United Kingdom's National Environmental Research Council.

Tripati's research focuses on the development and application of chemical tools to study climate change throughout history. She studies the evolution of climate and seawater chemistry through time.

"I'm interested in understanding how the carbon cycle and climate have been coupled, and why they have been coupled, over a range of time-scales, from hundreds of years to tens of millions of years," Tripati said.

Source: University of California - Los Angeles
Nice post deserves a bump.

Only a fool would assume that you can take roughly half the carbon out of the earth's crust, throw it into the atmosphere, and not get some kind of reaction.

The question then becomes, is it a negative reaction for 7 billion souls on board? That's still hard to say for sure, because humans seem to thrive on earth when it's especially warm. But how warm until the process reverses itself?

With 7 billion mouths to feed in a nuclear age, we haven't a clue what we will do if a fight breaks out over rapidly diminishing resources.

Mutually assured destruction is meaningless if it is guaranteed by other means.
Quoting nigel20:

2008 was not calm for people in Texas after Ike or Gustav in louisiana and also the northeast last year after Irene


I worked Dolly, Gustav, and Ike as a contractor rep for FEMA in 2008. Coastal damages were minimally extensive (focused) in direct impact areas, inland damages were minimal to non existent.
Quoting etxwx:


Looks like that map needs a depilatory...


Haven't heard that term in years...
Quoting RuBRNded:


I worked Dolly, Gustav, and Ike as a contractor rep for FEMA in 2008. Coastal damages were minimally extensive (focused) in direct impact areas, inland damages were minimal to non existent.

Damages in the US from Ike was 29.6 billion dollars 112 direct deaths...i get what you are saying, but what is minimal about the total damages?
Quoting etxwx:


Looks like that map needs a depilatory...
Or dreadlocks.
Good night fellow bloggers
Yesterday's explosion was verified as a meteor.

A fiery meteor created a thundering explosion and traced a rare daylight fireball seen for about 600 miles across Nevada and California on Sunday, before apparently breaking up harmlessly at high altitude, astronomers said. NASA researchers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory said the midair explosion, centered over California's Central Valley east of the San Francisco Bay area, was the equivalent of the detonation of about 3.8 kilotons of TNT%u2014about one quarter the energy released by the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan, in 1945. "The meteor was probably about the size of an SUV," said Donald Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at the laboratory, in Pasadena, Calif. "This was a big one. An event of this size might happen about once a year, but most of them occur over the ocean or an uninhabited area." There were no reports Monday that any fragments of the object had reached the ground or caused any damage. No major telescope in the region tracked the early-morning fireball. NASA astronomers said the explosion might have been five to 10 miles high, which was high enough to let the sound spread widely.
Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
Nice post deserves a bump.

Only a fool would assume that you can take roughly half the carbon out of the earth's crust, throw it into the atmosphere, and not get some kind of reaction.

The question then becomes, is it a negative reaction for 7 billion souls on board? That's still hard to say for sure, because humans seem to thrive on earth when it's especially warm. But how warm until the process reverses itself?

With 7 billion mouths to feed in a nuclear age, we haven't a clue what we will do if a fight breaks out over rapidly diminishing resources.

Mutually assured destruction is meaningless if it is guaranteed by other means.
More than 100 million people have died in the past century at the hands of fellow humans due to wars and other conflicts. This is more than all nature disasters combined excluding famine, and even then people still poison the land, rivers, lakes and oceans that we get get food and drinking water from while people starve to death. They pollute the air we breath, and sometimes feel justified to kill each another because we dont have the same beliefs. It is almost inconceivable for me to believe that we as humans will overcome greed and the insatiable appetite for power to benefit the human race as a whole. I do believe that we will pull through, but it will come at a price. It is a real possibility that our destiny will be determined by conscience.
On Sunday we celebrated a life in the day of the earth, but the cake made by men is so large that blowing out the candles is considered too risky.

Most of the party goers said, "let them burn all the way down first, then we can safely have our cake."

"Eating it too," is the name of this forecast.







Quoting RuBRNded:


inland damages were minimal to non existent.


No they weren't. I went through Gustav.
Interesting article on curiosity that may apply to WUBA's.

Why We Are Drawn to Fire

"Unlike a spider that inherently knows how to weave a web, humans don't instinctively know how to produce and control fire. The ability must be learned during childhood. This may be because there was no universal method of fire building and control among our ancestors, who lived in diverse environments, and so there was no single method for evolution to ingrain in us. Instead, "fire learning" became the instinct. As Fessler put it in an article in the Journal of Cognition and Culture, "The only avenue open to selection processes operating on a species as wide-ranging as ourselves was to rely on learning for the acquisition of the requisite behaviors." [Top 10 Inventions that Changed the World]

"Children are universally fascinated by predatory animals in a similar manner in which they are fascinated by fire. Because both could seriously harm or kill them, evolution requires that they be interested in those subjects, Fessler argues, as a way of ensuring that they pay special attention to information obtained about them. For example, children are naturally curious about which animals are dangerous and which aren't, as well as which materials are flammable and which aren't, and what the consequences are of adding, removing and rearranging objects in a fire. Our brains soak up this predator and fire knowledge."

Knowledge of disasters of all kinds would be as important to the survival of a species as would knowledge of predators or fire. So us WUBA's could be acting on instinctive impulses when we follow disasters--we follow just about any kind of natural disaster and even man-made ones (global warming, nuclear meltdowns).
good morning folks, cool and clear this morning, looks like the wind has died down some, yesterday was amazing with the wind gusts up over 30 mph...have a great day everyone.......................................... ........
256. MahFL
Quoting JNCali:
This makes me sad! China, Russia, India as well as the private sector are all investing in continued space exploration.. I think maybe the insurance was too high for NASA, especially after Columbia?!


We just came out of a recession, and have an expensive war in Afghanistan to fund. GW Bush had a lavish idea of Constellation, but as with everything he screwed up, by not sorting out the $$$ for the project.
Good morning everyone... The 0z GFS has a nice TS in the east pac at 324 hours... Probably won't verify but just another sign that it's almost here...
Last week it appeared that things had returned to some sort of normalcy in the temperature and time of the year agreement. But nope, that isn't the case.

According to HAMweather's site in the past week 30 low temperature records were tied or beaten while 529 high temperature records did the same in the US. At least on the home front the weather still seems to be trending toward a warmer climate.

Nature is going to do what she's going to do. She's not paying any attention to what either side of the human spat is saying. Best thing we can do is not aggravate her.

I guess that's one reason she's called "Mother Nature".
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Good morning everyone... The 0z GFS has a nice TS in the east pac at 324 hours... Probably won't verify but just another sign that it's almost here...

It's been there since the 18Z.

Good morning all!

Must resist pitical argument!

Isnt there a heat wave out west moving to the east?? I'm tired of these 50's its way to late for this
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It's been there since the 18Z.



IF this run were to happen wouldn't that be on or slightly below cane status, it's at 997 mb anyway.
Quoting weatherh98:


IF this run were to happen wouldn't that be on or slightly below cane status, it's at 997 mb anyway.

It'd be a weak/moderate tropical storm typically. However, pressure varies with tropical cyclones primarily due to its origins and environment. Alex was a monsoonal-type tropical cyclone like we see in the West Pacific. It had Category 2 winds (110 mph) but had a Category 4 pressure (946 mbar).
As I stated last night, today is the two-year anniversary of the EF4 Yazoo City, MS tornado that killed four people, injured many more, and caused extensive damage across the city.

It was Mississippi's worst disaster since Hurricane Katrina...which would soon be surpassed by the outbreaks of 2011.


Image. High resolution radar imagery of the Yazoo City supercell as a violent, wedge tornado moved through the city. Notice the area of intense dBZ reflection just south of the city; that is a debris ball.
Interesting that the HPC is siding with the Euro model in bringing some tropical moisture up into FL this weekend.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It'd be a weak/moderate tropical storm typically. However, pressure varies with tropical cyclones primarily due to its origins and environment. Alex was a monsoonal-type tropical cyclone like we see in the West Pacific. It had Category 2 winds (110 mph) but had a Category 4 pressure (946 mbar).


Doesn't it also vary with size?
Good Morning all. I thought I'd be drinking my coffee on the back deck all Spring Break, however it's a whole 48 degrees here in my part of Louisiana. I'm sitting on my couch instead. But it has been very nice to do the yard and garden work with temps in the upper 60s to lower 70s.

Everyone have a great Tuesday.
Quoting aislinnpaps:
Good Morning all. I thought I'd be drinking my coffee on the back deck all Spring Break, however it's a whole 48 degrees here in my part of Louisiana. I'm sitting on my couch instead. But it has been very nice to do the yard and garden work with temps in the upper 60s to lower 70s.

Everyone have a great Tuesday.


It was 48 here in mandeville also....
Quoting StormTracker2K:
Interesting that the HPC is siding with the Euro model in bringing some tropical moisture up into FL this weekend.



CMC looks to take a bit of the remains of 91L & toss it in there..
It was a cold 49 here in Orlando this morning. Coldest in 6 weeks but it's supposed to be 89 by Thursday so will likely be the last cool blast until Late October or November.
Quoting Skyepony:


CMC looks to take a bit of the remains of 91L & toss it in there..


Interesting however I won't get my hopes up as the GFS doesn't show this scenario but instead shows a gradual increase in moisture leading to a 20 to 30 percent chance of rain. I think it's Odd the HPC folks are siding with the Euro on this one. Well see.
Miami NWS Discussion

GOING INTO THE WEEKEND THE
EXTENDED GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT A BROAD UPPER LEVEL TROUGH NEAR THE
YUCATAN PENINSULA COULD INFLUENCE SOUTH FLORIDA AS SOUTHEASTERLY LOW
LEVEL FLOW COULD BRING SOME MOISTURE AND CLOUDINESS INTO THE
REGION. THIS TREND COULD CONTINUE SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY...BUT FOR
NOW JUST INTRODUCING A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND WILL HAVE TO
WAIT AND SEE IF THE GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO BE PERSISTENT WITH THIS
SCENARIO BEFORE INDICATING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SLIGHT CHANCE OF
PRECIP.

AS HIGH PRESSURE AND A MORE NORTHERLY FLOW ARE EXPECTED ACROSS THE
REGION TONIGHT...TEMPERATURES WILL CERTAINLY BE UNSEASONABLY COOL.
THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE PENINSULA EARLY WEDNESDAY
MORNING ARE FORECAST TO RANGE FROM THE LOWER TO MID 50S ACROSS THE
PALM BEACH METRO AREAS...FROM THE MID 50S TO UPPER 50S FR THE
MIAMI DADE AND BROWARD COUNTY METRO AREAS TO THE LOWER 50S ACROSS
THE NAPLES METRO AREAS. THESE FORECAST TEMPERATURES ARE IN GENERAL
A FEW DEGREES ABOVE RECORD LEVELS FOR THAT DATE BUT A FEW ISOLATED
LOCATIONS COULD REACH NEAR RECORD MINIMUM TEMPERATURES. THEN A
SLOWLY GRADUAL WARMING TREND IS EXPECTED THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF
THE WORK WEEK.
Quoting percylives:
Last week it appeared that things had returned to some sort of normalcy in the temperature and time of the year agreement. But nope, that isn't the case.

According to HAMweather's site in the past week 30 low temperature records were tied or beaten while 529 high temperature records did the same in the US. At least on the home front the weather still seems to be trending toward a warmer climate.

Nature is going to do what she's going to do. She's not paying any attention to what either side of the human spat is saying. Best thing we can do is not aggravate her.

I guess that's one reason she's called "Mother Nature".
Yeah, record lows are running slightly behind record highs for the year-to-date. ;-)

Warm

Last night's numbers aren't included yet, and there were probably quite a few low temperature records broken. But many of yesterday's highs out west aren't yet included, either.

(FWIW, we are now entering the 17th week of 2012. 16 of those weeks have seen more record highs than record lows; just one week--February 12-18--had more lows than highs.)
GFS has been persistantly showing the MJO hanging around the Caribbean, S America, and E-Pac for several weeks now and it appears it doesn't want to leave. This has been the key limiting factor for FL and the Caribbean the last couple of years and that's upward motion and sufficient instability to get thunderstorms going or should I say daily thunderstorms going. If this trend continues then we could most definitely see an early season system in the Caribbean.

Quoting StormTracker2K:
It was a cold 49 here in Orlando this morning. Coldest in 6 weeks but it's supposed to be 89 by Thursday so will likely be the last cool blast until Late October or November.


I was just thinking the same about this mornings temps here. Good Ol' return flow starts back tomorrow. Good morning all. :)

Orange County Airport
Lat: 30.07 Lon: -93.8 Elev: 13


Fair

48 °F
(9 °C)
Humidity: 100 %
Wind Speed: Calm
Barometer: 30.08"
Dewpoint: 48 °F (9 °C)
Visibility: 7.00 m
This could be a season of very few CV systems but lots of homegrown mischiefs.

So far, this is the tally from yesterday.

High Temp: 144
Low Temp: 3
Low Max Temp: 41
High Min Temp: 43

The 3 lows are all ties, while a quick scan of the 144 highs finds several breaks of 5 to 7 degrees from Texas to the Pacific Northwest state.

High mins and low maxes seem about balanced for the average size of the breaks, with probably a slight edge to high mins.
Good Morning. Taking a look at the Northern Hemisphere composite water vapor loop and all clear for the Conus and the Atlantic Basin. Beautiful Spring morning in many parts of the US. Nice to see things this quiet severe weather wise for a change.....Now waiting on the Summer heat wave in late April.........
Watched this last night on science channel.


NASA's Unexplained Files

Countless mysterious objects have been caught by NASA's cameras. Many astronauts have even reported seeing unidentified flying objects. In this special, we'll reveal NASA's top ten unexplained encounters using original footage and groundbreaking interviews with astronauts and scientists. Can these phenomena be explained away through science and detective work? Or have NASA's cameras potentially captured the first traces of extraterrestrial life?

278. RitaEvac 9:02 AM EDT on April 24, 2012

I caught that show last week and have seen a lot of the NASA footage. A lot of it looks like out of focus ice particles floating out there in space with the exception of some footage of objects shooting in towards the atmosphere then executing a hard 90 degree turn taken during one of the early Shuttle missions........I am stumped by those.
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Interesting however I won't get my hopes up as the GFS doesn't show this scenario but instead shows a gradual increase in moisture leading to a 20 to 30 percent chance of rain. I think it's Odd the HPC folks are siding with the Euro on this one. Well see.


I'm not real hopeful, but tossing in such a persistent swirl is worth noting. GFS doesn't include it. Looking at what 91L remains have endured & how it's dived SE as that front approached I can see siding with ECMWF, though it still needs to get past that front.
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
278. RitaEvac 9:02 AM EDT on April 24, 2012

I caught that show last week and have seen a lot of the NASA footage. A lot of it looks like out of focus ice particles floating out there in space with the exception of some footage of objects shooting in towards the atmosphere then executing a hard 90 degree turn taken during one of the early Shuttle missions........I am stumped by those.


That one and the red light
another late frost in N GA, but i dont think it will do any harm though.
Quoting RitaEvac:


That one and the red light


Lol....I forgot about the red light.... :)
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


Lol....I forgot about the red light.... :)


The object that stops and goes back and then something shoots past it is awesome, and the red light is crazy. Red light was moving and they captured it
Quoting RitaEvac:
Watched this last night on science channel.


NASA's Unexplained Files

Countless mysterious objects have been caught by NASA's cameras. Many astronauts have even reported seeing unidentified flying objects. In this special, we'll reveal NASA's top ten unexplained encounters using original footage and groundbreaking interviews with astronauts and scientists. Can these phenomena be explained away through science and detective work? Or have NASA's cameras potentially captured the first traces of extraterrestrial life?

This should be very interesting..
Full Disclosure is imminent.
Quoting hydrus:
This should be very interesting..


There's only 2 that are legit to me, the one stopping and going back and the red light figure, and the tank dump where the thing seems to follow the movement of the tank falling back to earth.
Quoting Skyepony:


CMC looks to take a bit of the remains of 91L & toss it in there..


the CMC and Euro were really good with the storm from this weekend..looks like are trying to go two for two
NOGAPs has it too..wait and see

Quoting Skyepony:


I'm not real hopeful, but tossing in such a persistent swirl is worth noting. GFS doesn't include it. Looking at what 91L remains have endured & how it's dived SE as that front approached I can see siding with ECMWF, though it still needs to get past that front.


Yeah I just ran the NOGAPS as it shows 91L wraping and the Atlantic ridge and swinging up the east coast of FL as it combines with a weak ULL over the SE Gulf. Very interesting!

Quoting ncstorm:
NOGAPs has it too..wait and see



You beat me to it!
Quoting RitaEvac:


There's only 2 that are legit to me, the one stopping and going back and the red light figure, and the tank dump where the thing seems to follow the movement of the tank falling back to earth.
I have not seen the show. I have seen a couple of U.F.O,s before. It was a long time ago.
Quoting hydrus:
I have not seen the show. I have seen a couple of U.F.O,s before. It was a long time ago.


Watch the show, and what did you see
Quoting RitaEvac:


Watch the show, and what did you see
We were 550 miles off of New York when an object approached the bow of our ship. It was nighttime, so all we saw was three red lights in the shape of a triangle. None of them blinked, they were on constantly. It was silent, and extremely fast and agile. In was so fast that when it moved from the front of the ship to the rear, it could not be seen. It was apparently observing us. I first saw it when I was just hanging outside the pilothouse, then I called the captain and one of the mates out to see if they had any idea what it was. No one knew. All I do know is that it was the fastest thing I have ever seen, could stop on a dime, and did not make a sound. I do not believe we have the technology now to make such a craft, never-mind back in 85 when we saw it. There was a U.F.O sighting in Colorado about a year ago that had a description similar to the one we saw out on the ocean.
And he said:
Let there be a NEW BLOG.
And there was.
And it was good.
And there was much rejoicing.
Quoting hydrus:
I have not seen the show. I have seen a couple of U.F.O,s before. It was a long time ago.


That may have just been Grothar experimenting again. He has tried many forms of transportation. This is his "blast from the past" and one of his favorites:



This was his first two horse power vehicle:



We all know that Grothar does not like being in one place for too long, so he later doubled the horse power:



But, this is probably one of the UFOs you saw that Grothar may have been playing with at the time:



Now, Grothar just says, "Beam me up, Scotty.":

Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


That may have just been Grothar experimenting again. He has tried many forms of transportation. This is his "blast from the past" and one of his favorites:



This was his first two horse power vehicle:



We all know that Grothar does not like being in one place for too long, so he later doubled the horse power:



But, this is probably one of the UFOs you saw that Grothar may have been playing with at the time:



Now, Grothar just says, "Beam me up, Scotty.":



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I watched The Flintstones a lot. The Jetson,s occasionally, Have ridden a horse, but not a chariot, and Scotty has yet to beam me up. Grothar was here long before atoms and elementary particles existed in our universe, and obviously has a covert way of getting around..:)
Quoting RuBRNded:


I worked Dolly, Gustav, and Ike as a contractor rep for FEMA in 2008. Coastal damages were minimally extensive (focused) in direct impact areas, inland damages were minimal to non existent.



I worked Ike as a catastrophic insurance adjuster and I can tell you inland damages were not "non existent".
Quoting TxKeef:



I worked Ike as a catastrophic insurance adjuster and I can tell you inland damages were not "non existent".
Ike did damage all the way up to Ohio. ...And Kentucky took a literal beating...
300. etxwx
Quoting TxKeef:



I worked Ike as a catastrophic insurance adjuster and I can tell you inland damages were not "non existent".


Agreed. We went through Ike and we are located 70 miles inland...lost lots of trees and power was out for a week. Our house was okay, but damage in the area was definitely not "non-existent".