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Kyle speeds towards Nova Scotia

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:44 PM GMT on September 28, 2008

Hurricane Kyle is racing towards a landfall in Nova Scotia late tonight or early Monday morning, and has likely peaked in intensity. Visible satellite loops show a rather un-hurricane like appearance to the storm, whose center is exposed to view with all the heavy thunderstorm activity on the north side. Despite the non-traditional appearance of the storm, Kyle was generating winds near hurricane force at about 7 am EDT today, according to data from the Hurricane Hunters. Buoy 44011 about 200 miles east of Hyannis, MA, recorded sustained winds of 60 mph, gusting to 80 mph, at 11:50 am EDT. Waves were 22 feet high at the buoy, which is on the strong (east) side of Kyle.


Figure 1. Current estimated rainfall for Kyle.

The forecast
Wind shear is 30 knots over Kyle, and the water temperatures are cooling quickly, now that the storm has crossed north of the Gulf Stream. This combination of effects should induce steady weakening. The HWRF, GFDL, and SHIPS intensity models forecast a strength of 55 mph, 65 mph, and 70 mph, respectively, for Kyle at landfall over the southwestern part of Nova Scotia. A landfall intensity of 60-65 mph is a good bet. Winds of this level should cause widespread power outages and tree damage over western Nova Scotia, but only light structural damage. Kyle's expected storm surge of 1-2 feet should not cause major flooding, but its large 10-foot high battering waves could cause considerable coastal erosion. Kyle is moving fast enough that rains are only expected to be 2-4 inches, which should not cause major river flooding. Rains over eastern Massachusetts from Kyle (and the remnants of the unnamed storm that hit the East Coast on Thursday) were as high as four inches (Figure 1).

Links to follow
Provincetown, MA weather
Bar Harbor, ME weather
Yarmouth, Nova Scotia weather
Nova Scotia radar
Buoy 44011
Buoy 44024

Yucatan disturbance
A low pressure system over the Yucatan Peninsula and the adjacent Western Caribbean waters has the potential for some slow development over the next few days. Visible satellite images show a modest-sized area of heavy thunderstorms that is currently not increasing in size. Wind shear is a moderate 10-20 knots over the region. NHC is giving this system a low (<20% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday. Most of the models predict the low will start to develop over the next few days, although interaction with the landmass of the Yucatan Peninsula will be a problem for it. The low should lift north or northeastwards beginning Monday, and the west coast of Florida can anticipate heavy rains from this system by Wednesday. There is probably not time for this disturbance to reach tropical depression strength by Wednesday.

Several of the models predict a separate disturbance will get organized over the Western Caribbean late this week, and we'll have to watch this area closely this week.

Northern Atlantic disturbance
An extratropical low pressure system has cut off from the jet stream near 37N, 43W, about 700 miles southeast of Newfoundland, Canada. This low is over 26.5°C waters, and is slowly acquiring tropical characteristics. Heavy thunderstorm activity is building near the center of the low as it drifts westwards at 10 mph. NHC is giving this system a medium (20-50% chance) of developing into a tropical storm or tropical depression by Tuesday. By Wednesday, this storm should get caught up by the jet stream and recurved out to sea without affecting any land areas.


Figure 2. Typhoon Jangmi at 1:30 am EDT Sunday, 9/28/08. Image credit: NOAA.

Typhoon Jangmi hits Taiwan
Typhoon Jangmi hit Taiwan today as a dangerous Category 3 typhoon with 130 mph winds. Jangmi dumped up to 1.4 meters (4.6 feet) of rain in one mountainous region of Taiwan, according to news reports. Rainfall amounts in excess of one foot were common over northern Taiwan, according to the Taiwan Central Weather Bureau. Storm chaser James Reynolds filmed the landfall of Jangmi on Taiwan today, and is posting updates at http://www.typhoonfury.com/.

I'll have an update Monday.
Jeff Masters

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Quoting hurricane23:
What an afternoon here across southeast florida!

Crazy rain this afternoon with rates of 1-2 inches per hour.Here's a pic i took with the wifes cell phone on the way to the mall.Serious flooding on flagler street.



it barely rained here in central FL
Quoting Clickerous:


Doesnt the CMC have it coming off the southern half and doing circles by cuba then coming up to FL? The rest of the models have it coming off the north and jetting NE


See post 497
I hate to say this, but the CMC has been bang on
Quoting Orcasystems:


Its a 180 hours from Florida... how do you make that Tuesday?


StormW had an excript from the latest NWS discussion about it hitting the Tampa area on Tuesday. Major models confirm this as well.
504. eddye
more rain near cuba coming towards south fl around 3 am
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Warning #5
09:00 AM JST September 29 2008
===========================================

Subject: CATEGORY ONE TYPHOON IN SOUTH CHINA SEA

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Mekkhala (992 hPa) located at 16.4N 111.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts up to 50 knots. The storm is reported as moving north at 7 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0

Gale-Force Winds
=================
50 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
======================
24 HRS: 18.4N 110.1E - 50 knots (CAT 2)
48 HRS: 19.4N 107.4E - 40 knots (CAT 1)
72 HRS: 19.8N 105.1E - TROPICAL DEPRESSION
Quoting Stoopid1:


StormW had an excript from the latest NWS discussion about it hitting the Tampa area on Tuesday. Major models confirm this as well.


Far be for me to argue with them.
The model has it starting on 90 hours.. so I would assume we are talking about two different systems.
Quoting Orcasystems:


See post 497
I hate to say this, but the CMC has been bang on


Hate to say but...the GFS forecast 2 cyclones to hit FL.....so does the ECMWF
Quoting futuremet:


Hate to say but...the GFS forecast 2 cyclones to hit FL.....so does the ECMWF


You have the GFS link? I'm at work and not at home =(
Quoting futuremet:


Hate to say but...the GFS forecast 2 cyclones to hit FL.....so does the ECMWF


At this rate it'll be Easter before I can take off the shutters and put the stuff back on the lanai. (That's the back porch for you northeners,LOL)
If that glob southwest of us comes over south florida - we are going to need flippers to go to work in the morning.
Quoting futuremet:


Hate to say but...the GFS forecast 2 cyclones to hit FL.....so does the ECMWF
no more storms for florida..I just finished planting my garden.;(
Quoting Orcasystems:


Its a 180 hours from Florida... how do you make that Tuesday?
precisely!
Quoting Clickerous:


You have the GFS link? I'm at work and not at home =(


GFS

ECMWF
Looking like a rainy week for all of us here in FL.
Quoting geepy86:
no more storms for florida..I just finished planting my garden.;(



geez - you jinxed us
Quoting zoomiami:
If that glob southwest of us comes over south florida - we are going to need flippers to go to work in the morning.


Ugh, just saw that. Airboat anyone?
Quoting futuremet:


it barely rained here in central FL


yea your right where do you live?
Quoting BKeen12:


yea your right where do you live?


Port St.Lucie
Quoting BKeen12:


yea your right where do you live?
good amount of rain here in Melbourne today........just the right amount.
Orca has been too pleased with himself that we have all the rain - I suggest we send the blobs to him.
Quoting futuremet:


Hate to say but...the GFS forecast 2 cyclones to hit FL.....so does the ECMWF


where are these 2 storms or would be storms currently located?
Quoting conchygirl:
good amount of rain here in Melbourne today........just the right amount.


Melbourne?


didn't you guys got hit hard by Fay?
Floridians will wake to a rainy morning tomorrow

more storms heading our way.
Quoting zoomiami:



geez - you jinxed us


Chooo Choooo, Rain Train



Click to enlarge
Quoting zoomiami:
Orca has been too pleased with himself that we have all the rain - I suggest we send the blobs to him.


Umm I saw this after I posted the rain Train... heheh oppps

Halo polish, thats it.. Halo polish
you guys shouldn't be too happy about the rain. As more rain falls, the ground will be more saturated, therefore making us vulnerable to serious flooding like Fay if the developing tropical cyclone hit us.
All the polish in the world isn't going to help if you keep this up. lol

I can't believe the Miami radar is down, been using Key West, but it would be nice to see something closer.
thank you storm...regular or a tad above normal fall season rains for so. fla. but no designated tropical systems to deluge us...at least for the next week.
Quoting zoomiami:
All the polish in the world isn't going to help if you keep this up. lol

I can't believe the Miami radar is down, been using Key West, but it would be nice to see something closer.


Use the nex rad on Google
Most of the caribbean looks quite conducive for tropical cyclone development through wednesday the 1st and possibly beyond but once again the GULF is closed for development as conditions look very hostile in the area.

Here's a view of the 18z GFS shear forcast.

Quoting zoomiami:
All the polish in the world isn't going to help if you keep this up. lol

I can't believe the Miami radar is down, been using Key West, but it would be nice to see something closer.


Parts of flagler street were under water this afternoon.
Quoting StormW:
529. GeoffreyWPB 10:05 PM EDT on September 28, 2008
thank you storm...regular or a tad above normal fall season rains for so. fla. but no designated tropical systems to deluge us...at least for the next week.


You're welcome!

Saw the Collie on your site! Gorgeous animal!


Thank you. She is actually a sheltie. More aligned with the sheepdog or herding type of canine. A lot of people call her a little Lassie!
136 & 97th was completely underwater for a while, the Falls parking lot looked like a lake, no place to park.

The flagler area has always had problems with standing water, so I'm sure it was bad.
US 1 near the University of Miami in Coral Gables was a pond this afternoon....
Quoting zoomiami:
136 & 97th was completely underwater for a while, the Falls parking lot looked like a lake, no place to park.

The flagler area has always had problems with standing water, so I'm sure it was bad.




We have rain also... umm not so much :)
good night storm...get some well-deserved rest.
StormW There is a circulation on the hurricane water vapor loop just of tip of eastern Jamaica it look like a upper low but much smaller than most upper lows. Is there a easy way to tell ull from surface lows on satellite pictures. Thanks for the patience.

Good Evening.... Just popping in to take a quick look.

Have that South Florida radar page up on my site feel free to use.
Quoting Beachfoxx:

Good Evening.... Just popping in to take a quick look.


Evening Foxx..was it a snake or a squirrel?
157 ave was/s floaded as well... going to be a long drive to work tomorrow. as i am seeing, there is a wave in the carribean with sights towards florida?
Quoting gordydunnot:
StormW There is a circulation on the hurricane water vapor loop just of tip of eastern Jamaica it look like a upper low but much smaller than most upper lows. Is there a easy way to tell ull from surface lows on satellite pictures. Thanks for the patience.


look just east of what you are talking about and look at that mini blob coming offthe penin. of haiti. could this be something??
so i was getting my wallet out of my truck and i began to feel light rain drops falling here in Orlando. the tropical assualt has begun in Central Fl!
Yikes! *** Still don't know. Cannot find anything amiss! Not even a single object out of place. Checked ducts, attic access, etc.... Alarm went off three times.... So we either have a wild critter or a murderer hiding in our house!!! One door alarm went off, then motion detector... after that, the 2nd & 3rd time were motion detectors.

Bizarre. Guess I may have to move out to the dock! LOL

BOC - what's happening? *guess I will go take a peek!
The moral of all these stories are - we sure don't need a TS to dump a bunch of rain on us.

Hey foggy - guess you will have to start early in the am.
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Yikes! *** Still don't know. Cannot find anything amiss! Not even a single object out of place. Checked ducts, attic access, etc.... Alarm went off three times.... So we either have a wild critter or a murderer hiding in our house!!! One door alarm went off, then motion detector... after that, the 2nd & 3rd time were motion detectors.

Bizarre. Guess I may have to move out to the dock! LOL


BOC - what's happening? *guess I will go take a peek!


Nada in the boc for a couple days.. around thursday things will start hopping bigtime I think
Hey, all.

I might be speaking too soon, but Kyle seems to be a fizzle, fo' shizzle.

Winds 30 km/h from the W, light rain, barometer 996.5 mb and rising.

Much ado about nothing, thank the gods.
Zoomiami, you are not kidding! Before sun up I say.
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Yikes! *** Still don't know. Cannot find anything amiss! Not even a single object out of place. Checked ducts, attic access, etc.... Alarm went off three times.... So we either have a wild critter or a murderer hiding in our house!!! One door alarm went off, then motion detector... after that, the 2nd & 3rd time were motion detectors.

Bizarre. Guess I may have to move out to the dock! LOL

BOC - what's happening? *guess I will go take a peek!


BTW, would one of those lil garden snakes you have down there.. you know the ones that eat gators.. that would set the alarms off right?
Quoting bluenosedave:
Hey, all.

I might be speaking too soon, but Kyle seems to be a fizzle, fo' shizzle.

Winds 30 km/h from the W, light rain, barometer 996.5 mb and rising.

Much ado about nothing, thank the gods.


I believe its called the eye :)
Beach - that's not any fun - how you suppose to sleep if your alarm keeps going off?
BTW, would one of those lil garden snakes you have down there.. you know the ones that eat gators.. that would set the alarms off right?

That halo is going to have too many dents to repair....
And...it only ate half a gator!
Quoting zoomiami:
And...it only ate half a gator!


Ohh that makes all the difference in the world...


Kyles eye at now..
Quoting Orcasystems:


I believe its called the eye :)


LOL. Could be, but a fast-moving storm with a 3-hour-long eye is new to me in my admittedly limited experience. Anyway, it gave me a chance to nip down to the pub for a few. Cheers!
Halo??? Halo??? I believe we all have made a huge mistake.... its the reflection from the horns! The horns!!

Orca, mean! Orca = evil! Snakes! no way! Its the second level. We all know snakes slither low to the ground! The second level motion detector... can they even pick up a snake?????
Oh and Zoo, I need some FLorida back up... can you slap the Canuck back into shape???
Yes Beach - we were definitely misled, the halo was just hiding the horns - that's why all the polish wasn't working.

hehe
Quoting Orcasystems:


Kyles eye at now..


Passed me by by a big margin. Well, I've got food cooked to last me a week, and lots of stuff in tins. Nothing wrong with that.
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Halo??? Halo??? I believe we all have made a huge mistake.... its the reflection from the horns! The horns!!

Orca, mean! Orca = evil! Snakes! no way! Its the second level. We all know snakes slither low to the ground! The second level motion detector... can they even pick up a snake?????


Can't be fire ants.. they are to small. Iguana?

568. 7544
Quoting futuremet:
Hurricane?


not done yet could be a ts wating
Sleep???
Forget about it! If I sleep tonight, it will be w/ one eye open.... Hubby would sleep thorugh me screaming as the snake, gator or weirdo killed me
! LOL LOL
Quoting zoomiami:
Beach - that's not any fun - how you suppose to sleep if your alarm keeps going off?
Quoting bluenosedave:


Passed me by by a big margin. Well, I've got food cooked to last me a week, and lots of stuff in tins. Nothing wrong with that.


To late in the year to buy canners at the side of the road? I miss that
Nope - it's the bears - they ran away from you, heard about the horns.
Horns - disguised as halo! Now he is siccing the horrible disgusting fire ants on me! Dang---- who opened the door and let this "devil in disguise Canuck in the door?" FireAnts??? Has a Canadian EVER been bitten by FIREANTS before!!!! Misery!
Quoting zoomiami:
Yes Beach - we were definitely misled, the halo was just hiding the horns - that's why all the polish wasn't working.

hehe
Quoting zoomiami:
Nope - it's the bears - they ran away from you, heard about the horns.


Bears are cuddly and warm... friendly as can be... compared to gators and snakes
00z NAM just completed


YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS.

the 00z models will be interesting later tonight.

see ya tomorrow morning.
Quoting futuremet:
00z NAM just completed


YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS.

the 00z models will be interesting later tonight.

see ya tomorrow morning.


Basically the same as the cmc
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Horns - disguised as halo! Now he is siccing the horrible disgusting fire ants on me! Dang---- who opened the door and let this "devil in disguise Canuck in the door?" FireAnts??? Has a Canadian EVER been bitten by FIREANTS before!!!! Misery!


You two are ruining my sweet and innocent reputation :) I was just asking if you were communicating with nature.. and then poof.. character assassination :(
The Houston Chronicle had quite a few stories about H. Ike today. Here is the web address to their coverage (free). There is a story about the number of folks still missing (400) including 60 from Bolivar Peninsula, many of whom are likely fatalities. Also, there is a first hand account from two guys who survived a trip across the bay in the debris field after their homes were destroyed(click on "more" beneath the headlines) and were rescued 1-2 days later.

Heartbreaking.

http://www.chron.com/hurricane/ike/
Quoting Orcasystems:


Basically the same as the cmc


closer to us.
Well guys - out for the night - unfortunately tomorrow is work again.

Look forward to seeing what tomorrow brings with the models & possible storms.

Well, Kyle's life as a Tropical System is over.

TROPICAL STORM KYLE ADVISORY NUMBER 14
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112008
1100 PM AST SUN SEP 28 2008

...KYLE LOSES TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS AS IT PASSES NOVA SCOTIA...

SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT KYLE IS NO LONGER A TROPICAL CYCLONE.

AT 11 PM AST...0300 UTC...THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE COAST
OF MAINE IS DISCONTINUED.

THE HURRICANE WARNING IN EFFECT FOR THE COUNTIES OF DIGBY...
YARMOUTH...AND SHELBURNE IN SOUTHWESTERN NOVA SCOTIA CANADA HAS BEEN
DISCONTINUED. WINDS OF TROPICAL STORM FORCE WILL CONTINUE OVER
PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN NOVA SCOTIA AND SPREAD INTO SOUTHEASTERN NEW
BRUNSWICK OVERNIGHT.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 1100 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF KYLE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 44.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 65.9 WEST OR ABOUT 55 MILES...60
KM...SOUTH OF SAINT JOHN NEW BRUNSWICK.

KYLE IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 26 MPH...43 KM/HR. A MOTION TO
THE NORTH OR NORTH-NORTHEAST IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO AT
A SLOWER FORWARD SPEED...TAKING THE REMNANTS OF KYLE OVER EASTERN
NEW BRUNSWICK TONIGHT.

ALTHOUGH KYLE IS NO LONGER A TROPICAL CYCLONE...IT CONTINUES TO
PRODUCE STRONG WINDS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 70 MPH...110
KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. GRADUAL WEAKENING IS EXPECTED OVER THE
NEXT DAY OR SO.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 240 MILES...390 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 986 MB...29.12 INCHES.

ADDITIONAL RAINFALL TOTALS OF 1 INCH OR LESS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE
EXTREME EASTERN PORTIONS OF MAINE. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE OVER NEW BRUNSWICK AND PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND THROUGH
MONDAY MORNING.

TIDES OF 1 TO 2 FEET ABOVE NORMAL...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER LEVELS IN
THE BAY OF FUNDY...ACCOMPANIED BY LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING
WAVES....WILL CONTINUE TONIGHT ALONG PORTIONS OF THE COAST OF NOVA
SCOTIA.

REPEATING THE 1100 PM AST POSITION...44.8 N...65.9 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH NEAR 26 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...986 MB.

THIS IS THE LAST PUBLIC ADVISORY ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER ON THIS SYSTEM. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE
FOUND IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE...UNDER AWIPS HEADER NFDHSFAT1 AND WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC.

$$
FORECASTER FRANKLIN


14 Advisories * 6 Hours= Lifespan of 84 hrs.(3.5 days)
So Kyle is no longer tropical--yay!
Canucks 4-0 for the pre-season :)
Canucks 5 Anaheim 4

Kyle seems to be taking the bay of Fundy tour
Quoting zoomiami:
Well guys - out for the night - unfortunately tomorrow is work again.

Look forward to seeing what tomorrow brings with the models & possible storms.



Night Zoo
Well.....after 15 days of being without electricity here in Houston I am happy to say that I'm am sitting in my well lighted, air conditioned home!
Hurray for electricity! I was only able to get online twice in that 15 days so I don't know what all was posted here about IKE! I know that Houston, Galveston, Bolivar area was hit much harder than reported on the news. The electrical crews here came from North Carolina and they were amazed at the damage in Houston saying they had not been prepared for as much damage as they saw. Galveston/Bolivar still have a large number of missing and very few searchers which is really sad. They could really use many many more people searching. I have for years gotten a little excited at the prospect of having a hurricane come our way. Have lived in Houston all my life but had never gone through a hurricane. NEVER AGAIN!! I've had all the "hurricane fun" I can stand for a life time!! I thought a Cat 2 would be no big deal - or at least not much of a big deal - WRONG!! I know I will leave town if anything strong than a weak Cat 2 ever threatens this area again. Its been 25 years since the last major hurricane hit this area and I counting on it being 25 years or longer before another one hits! Sorry the post is so long. Here is an article from the Houston Chronicle about the missing......http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/morenews/6027458.html
But, Laura seems to be in the making in the area around 37N 46W, give or take a degree in either direction.

That's pretty far north, come to think of it.
OMG!! I cannot believe Zoo left me in this situation! A rabid Canuck! With Rusty, crusty horns, trying to make me fear something other than Hurricanes????

Zoo!!!

The Canuck need more than polish... how about some bondo???
Quoting Beachfoxx:
OMG!! I cannot believe Zoo left me in this situation! A rabid Canuck! With Rusty, crusty horns, trying to make me fear something other than Hurricanes????

Zoo!!!

The Canuck need more than polish... how about some bondo???


Gasp.. a rabid Canuck.. where.. what did Bluenose do?
Later all... have a good one :)
Quoting Watchingthegulf:
Well.....after 15 days of being without electricity here in Houston I am happy to say that I'm am sitting in my well lighted, air conditioned home!
Hurray for electricity! I was only able to get online twice in that 15 days so I don't know what all was posted here about IKE! I know that Houston, Galveston, Bolivar area was hit much harder than reported on the news. The electrical crews here came from North Carolina and they were amazed at the damage in Houston saying they had not been prepared for as much damage as they saw. Galveston/Bolivar still have a large number of missing and very few searchers which is really sad. They could really use many many more people searching. I have for years gotten a little excited at the prospect of having a hurricane come our way. Have lived in Houston all my life but had never gone through a hurricane. NEVER AGAIN!! I've had all the "hurricane fun" I can stand for a life time!! I thought a Cat 2 would be no big deal - or at least not much of a big deal - WRONG!! I know I will leave town if anything strong than a weak Cat 2 ever threatens this area again. Its been 25 years since the last major hurricane hit this area and I counting on it being 25 years or longer before another one hits! Sorry the post is so long. Here is an article from the Houston Chronicle about the missing......http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/morenews/6027458.html


I'm with you on that (Dickinson Resident).

But, Ike was a huge storm and had the surge of a Cat 4 storm. It was this water that did in Bolivar and Galveston. If the storm had gone ashore at San Luis Pass, the worst of the surge would have hit Galveston instead of Bolivar and it would have been the 1900 storm all over again. 20,000 stayed on the Island. I hope they realize they really dodged a bullet.

I've screwed up before and thought I wasn't going to make it (swimming in a small cove in Michoacan and got carried out into the Pacific on a rip tide). I read the story about lady who knew her time was up and remembered this incident. Incredibly horrible.
NAM and CMC have come to a close agreement with the next system! gona go to bed, be back in the a.m. night all!!!
Quoting Orcasystems:


To late in the year to buy canners at the side of the road? I miss that


Not a chance. Lobster is crustacean gold in these parts; the fishery is regulated to the max and the market is totally professional. All to the good in my books; we've seen what happened to the cod fishery in an under-regulated system.

Mind you, if you happen to know somebody who knows somebody you can still pick up a little something on the side. But nobody does it openly. It's much like the drug trade, frankly. :-)
Bluenose lost a lot (17 years), but made a slight comeback before being defeated once again... Then Bluenose 2 entered the field... and I know nothing! LOL

Except, Mexico (an Orca Vacation Favoritie) has many poisonous arthropods accidents caused by scorpions of the genus Centruroides and spiders of the genera Loxosceles and Latrodectus, constitute an important problem of public health, since the reported rates account for more than 200,000 accidents per year, of scorpion bites and about 3,000 to 5,000 due to spiders.
Quoting Orcasystems:


Gasp.. a rabid Canuck.. where.. what did Bluenose do?
Quoting Fraidycat:


I'm with you on that (Dickinson Resident).

But, Ike was a huge storm and had the surge of a Cat 4 storm. It was this water that did in Bolivar and Galveston. If the storm had gone ashore at San Luis Pass, the worst of the surge would have hit Galveston instead of Bolivar and it would have been the 1900 storm all over again. 20,000 stayed on the Island. I hope they realize they really dodged a bullet.

I've screwed up before and thought I wasn't going to make it (swimming in a small cove in Michoacan and got carried out into the Pacific on a rip tide). I read the story about lady who knew her time was up and remembered this incident. Incredibly horrible.
Sounds like you've got an interesting story to tell!! I totally agree with you Galveston dodging the bullet. And it has over and over which is why 20,000 stayed behind. I'm guessing they'll think twice if there is a next time. I also heard about that woman who was talking on her cell know she's really "messed up this time" ... horrible!
Re: #580 and Kyle advisory 14:

AT 1100 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF KYLE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 44.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 65.9 WEST OR ABOUT 55 MILES...60
KM...SOUTH OF SAINT JOHN NEW BRUNSWICK

Umm, Forecaster Franklyn or somebody at NHC has to review his metric conversion chart. Ain't no way 55 miles = 60 km. Just sayin'.
http://www.chron.com/hurricane/ike/

It's also pretty apparent that the local folks in Chambers County don't have the resources they need to recover the bodies. They aren't letting in Texas Equisearch, a pretty professional group. I don't know what's up with that.
Awesome Blog, What is your opinion on 95L??
Quoting Fraidycat:
http://www.chron.com/hurricane/ike/

It's also pretty apparent that the local folks in Chambers County don't have the resources they need to recover the bodies. They aren't letting in Texas Equisearch, a pretty professional group. I don't know what's up with that.
Ok - wow - I was wondering why I hadn't heard about Equisearch helping out. They are usually right there to help search for anyone missing but I thought it must have been Equisearch's decision not to go I didn't realize that Chambers County wouldn't let them come help. I saw recently on the news where they showed a large area of debris and they were commenting that they only had three Constables (or sheriff's - not sure which) that were searching. They were commenting that they needed a whole lot more people (....yea) but I didn't realize they'd ask Equisearch not to come. Very strange...
*Peeking in* Is it safe? I decided it would be funner to steam clean my carpets tonight than worry about blog drama. :o) Looks a little calmer now.

I'm thinking that the low in the NAM and CMC models in either the TW sitting at about 12N 54W or the one at 15N 40W. In spite of high shear both of these waves have managed to keep some low level vorticity going and the one at 40W keeps the convection coming (even if it does keep getting blown away). Thoughts anyone?
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Bluenose lost a lot (17 years), but made a slight comeback before being defeated once again... Then Bluenose 2 entered the field... and I know nothing! LOL


I won't comment on your last statement, except to say that the Bluenose was undefeated in racing in 17 years. Maybe you misread the Wikipedia entry. Link

Not that it matters much to me. Hmm, on reflection, I suppose it does. :-)
LOL - tis safe....
Would you like to clean my carpets??? After H Season, of course! LOl

Horns are dented, tarnished and he leaves!
Quoting Orcasystems:
Later all... have a good one :)
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
*Peeking in* Is it safe? I decided it would be funner to steam clean my carpets tonight than worry about blog drama. :o) Looks a little calmer now.

I'm thinking that the low in the NAM and CMC models in either the TW sitting at about 12N 54W or the one at 15N 40W. In spite of high shear both of these waves have managed to keep some low level vorticity going and the one at 40W keeps the convection coming (even if it does keep getting blown away). Thoughts anyone?
Forgive me!!!! I meant lost a lot after a 17 year winning streak! Rats, let me go look at that link of yours. I totally messed that one up! Bluenose was a famous racing & fishing vessel, built sometime in the 1920 era.... NO ONE could defeat this vessel... to be honest I am not sure who broke the "winning streak"... off to look at your link *humbly admitting I wrote last post incorrectly! Yaaa Gads! 40 lashes!
Quoting bluenosedave:


I won't comment on your last statement, except to say that the Bluenose was undefeated in racing in 17 years. Maybe you misread the Wikipedia entry. Link

Not that it matters much to me. Hmm, on reflection, I suppose it does. :-)
Philippines Atmospherical Geophysical Astronomical Services and Administration

Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #17 (0300z 29SEPT) *Final
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At 11 AM PhT, Tropical Storm Ofel (Jangmi) has located at 25.8°N 121.3°E or 80 kms north-northwest of Taipei, Taiwan has 10 minute sustained winds of 95 km/h(55kts) with gustiness up to 120 km/h(65kts).

All signal warnings has been lowered as Tropical Storm Ofel moves further away from the country.
Beachfoxx, where did Orca's halo go? About your alarm, I didn't read all the posts, but have your called your alarm comapny? We had a similar problem and our alarm company had to come out and reprogram our keypads. I think they said a power surge or something had put some kinks in our system.

Fraidy, thanks for the link to the Chronicle. I can't believe that Galveston isn't begging for all search teams to come in and help. But then again, we couldn't believe they didn't issue the mandatory evac much earlier either.
874
TCNA20 RJTD 290300 CCA
CCAA 29030 47644 JANGMI(0815) 22261 11211 132/4 2//// 93611=
MEKKHALA(0816) 23166 11110 132/5 2//// 93009=

Jangmi 26.1N 121.1E

Mekkhala 16.6N 111.0E
Hi,

Spent alot of time on phone w/ Alarm Co.... First time in 8 years we have had "false alarms". We are pretty convinced that we a "critter"! (or a psycho hiding and only coming out after we turn on motion detectos) LOL. Alarm Co. to troubleshoot tomorrow morning.

Thanks for your posts.... it is kinda weird to have this happening. Not sleeping well, at all! : )
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Beachfoxx, where did Orca's halo go? About your alarm, I didn't read all the posts, but have your called your alarm comapny? We had a similar problem and our alarm company had to come out and reprogram our keypads. I think they said a power surge or something had put some kinks in our system.

Fraidy, thanks for the link to the Chronicle. I can't believe that Galveston isn't begging for all search teams to come in and help. But then again, we couldn't believe they didn't issue the mandatory evac much earlier either.
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Beachfoxx, where did Orca's halo go? About your alarm, I didn't read all the posts, but have your called your alarm comapny? We had a similar problem and our alarm company had to come out and reprogram our keypads. I think they said a power surge or something had put some kinks in our system.

Fraidy, thanks for the link to the Chronicle. I can't believe that Galveston isn't begging for all search teams to come in and help. But then again, we couldn't believe they didn't issue the mandatory evac much earlier either.

BeachFoxx borrowed it.. :(
Now how am I suppose to be safe.
Hey guys, for anyone who hasn't heard yet or wants to read further, I made an extensive hurricane forecasting tutorial(just click on my handle to go there to it)....Broke it down into sections which explains how to make a basic hurricane forecast......Want to know how the jetstream guides ridge/trough patterns? How and why the patterns set up the way they do? It's all in there.....I tried to make it as user friendly as possible! Good night=)
604. CatastrophicDL 10:50 PM CDT on September 28, 2008 Hide this comment.
Beachfoxx, where did Orca's halo go?


LOL

Orca likes to torture me as the night deepens... he likes to tease about Gators, snakes, spiders, fireants & other creepy crawly things that live in Florida....

Course, Being a Canadian, he likes that "cold" stuff! LOL
Thought you left!!! LOL Was enjoying adding tarnish to halo!!!! ROFLMAO
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Hi,

Spent alot of time on phone w/ Alarm Co.... First time in 8 years we have had "false alarms". We are pretty convinced that we a "critter"! (or a psycho hiding and only coming out after we turn on motion detectos) LOL. Alarm Co. to troubleshoot tomorrow morning.

Thanks for your posts.... it is kinda weird to have this happening. Not sleeping well, at all! : )
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Forgive me!!!! I meant lost a lot after a 17 year winning streak! Rats, let me go look at that link of yours. I totally messed that one up! Bluenose was a famous racing & fishing vessel, built sometime in the 1920 era.... NO ONE could defeat this vessel... to be honest I am not sure who broke the "winning streak"... off to look at your link *humbly admitting I wrote last post incorrectly! Yaaa Gads! 40 lashes!


Don't beat yourself up over it. I mean, unless you're into that. :-)
Quoting quasigeostropic:
Hey guys, for anyone who hasn't heard yet or wants to read further, I made an extensive hurricane forecasting tutorial(just click on my handle to go there to it)....Broke it down into sections which explains how to make a basic hurricane forecast......Want to know how the jetstream guides ridge/trough patterns? How and why the patterns set up the way they do? It's all in there.....I tried to make it as user friendly as possible! Good night=)


I second that... its so good even I put a link to it on mine... so I could find it when people say big words on here
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/index.html
LOL Nope, I used to be an avid Sailing Racer... remember the name Bluenose for the long winning streak & the fishing.... Knew little else about the vessel except that it was a "winner".
: )
Quoting bluenosedave:


Don't beat yourself up over it. I mean, unless you're into that. :-)
Quoting bluenosedave:


Don't beat yourself up over it. I mean, unless you're into that. :-)


You have to give her a bit of space BN, she is ummm sort of getting along in time.. if you know what I mean....

She even called one of us.. a rabid canuck?

BTW, did you say they don't sell canners off the back of roadside pickups anymore? Used to be about $20 for a dozen


{Alex} Great job on your site... thank you for having the patience to educate the "rest of us".

D
Quoting quasigeostropic:
Hey guys, for anyone who hasn't heard yet or wants to read further, I made an extensive hurricane forecasting tutorial(just click on my handle to go there to it)....Broke it down into sections which explains how to make a basic hurricane forecast......Want to know how the jetstream guides ridge/trough patterns? How and why the patterns set up the way they do? It's all in there.....I tried to make it as user friendly as possible! Good night=)
Quoting Orcasystems:
Canucks 4-0 for the pre-season :)
Canucks 5 Anaheim 4

Kyle seems to be taking the bay of Fundy tour
preseason...don't mean jack !
OMG.... You Old Canuck Old Man YOU! LOL You are, have to be older than I!!!! *grumbling under breath! Dang Canucks, always think they are SO Superior!} ROFLMAO!!!

Quoting Orcasystems:


You have to give her a bit of space BN, she is ummm sort of getting along in time.. if you know what I mean....

She even called one of us.. a rabid canuck?

BTW, did you say they don't sell canners off the back of roadside pickups anymore? Used to be about $20 for a dozen


Quoting Beachfoxx:
OMG.... You Old Canuck Old Man YOU! LOL You are, have to be older than I!!!! *grumbling under breath! Dang Canucks, always think they are SO Superior!} ROFLMAO!!!



Now now.. be nice :)
BTW, I found that link you forgot about for your prescription for ARICEPT. :)
Hi all...been away for the weekend.
Complete update
All Systems ... Atlantic
New ... Invest 95L
Maine - NS ... Hurricane Kyle ... complete with Models
Maine - NS ... Hurricane Kyle ... with Cloud Cover
Maine - NS ... Hurricane Kyle ... complete with Hurricane Hunter Plots (when ontask)
Maine - NS ... Hurricane Kyle ... predicted Landfall
Present Satellite picture BOC/Caribbean Blob
Present Satellite picture BOC/Caribbean/GOM
Present Satellite picture Atlantic Train
Present Satellite picture Cape Verde
CMC & ... BOC
CMC & ... Caribbean
CMC & ... Caribbean Blob into Cuba
CMC & ... Caribbean Blob into Tampa
CMC 00Z..
Quoting Orcasystems:


You have to give her a bit of space BN, she is ummm sort of getting along in time.. if you know what I mean....

She even called one of us.. a rabid canuck?

BTW, did you say they don't sell canners off the back of roadside pickups anymore? Used to be about $20 for a dozen




Nope, that doesn't happen anymore, although you can still buy mackerel, scallops and a few other sorts of seafood from truck vendors. A lot has changed, but some things remain the same.

Just to stay on topic, Kyle is a spent force here. 41 km/h winds from the W with gusts to maybe 50, light rain, barometer at 1001.0 mb and rising.
Just so everyone knows the upcoming topic on my blog will be important documents preparation and planning. Orca if you've already seen my site, you didn't leave a comment :o( I love to get comments!

Quasi I did put a link to your awesome blog :o)

Orca did you ever check out my fab BC pictures in my WunderPhotos? One of my favorite vacation places - the north side of Shuswap up by Celista.
You EVIL Canadian! LOL Evil! You need a chainsaw to whack those devilish horns off! Halo??? Never was a halo, just horns!
Quoting Orcasystems:


Now now.. be nice :)
BTW, I found that link you forgot about for your prescription for ARICEPT. :)
Hey Violet....
Nice to see a friendly American! LOL

Guess you made out o.k during those storms????
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Just so everyone knows the upcoming topic on my blog will be important documents preparation and planning. Orca if you've already seen my site, you didn't leave a comment :o( I love to get comments!

Quasi I did put a link to your awesome blog :o)

Orca did you ever check out my fab BC pictures in my WunderPhotos? One of my favorite vacation places - the north side of Shuswap up by Celista.


Going to go look... did you see ogopogo?
Quoting violet312s:
Hi all...been away for the weekend.


Don't expect us to bring you up to date on all the drama. You'll have to do that for yourself. :-)
Isn't Aricept the new drug for Alzheimers? Beach you should be adding lot of tarnish!
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Hey Violet....
Nice to see a friendly American! LOL

Guess you made out o.k during those storms????


Got about 2" of rain here. Some winds but only small leaf clusters and unripened acorns in the yard. Squirrels are now busy cleaning up the acorns :)
Quoting violet312s:
Hi all...been away for the weekend.



Watch yourself Violet... hehe I think BF is off her meds again..
Quoting bluenosedave:


Don't expect us to bring you up to date on all the drama. You'll have to do that for yourself. :-)


Is there a 20-30 word Cliff Notes version available? lol
Beach if you forgot your meds, maybe you can't remember walking around setting off the alarm yourself??!! JK :o)
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Isn't Aricept the new drug for Alzheimers? Beach you should be adding lot of tarnish!
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Beach if you forgot your meds, maybe you can't remember walking around setting off the alarm yourself??!! JK :o)


ROFLMAO, I wish I had said that :)
I have a new partner in crime :)
Quoting violet312s:


Is there a 20-30 word Cliff Notes version available? lol


trust me.. NO
Orca - Go BAN yourself!!!!! NOW!!!!! *grumble, grumble.... Old Canuck is a dang fool!

CatastrophicDL - For shame!!!! Orca has you all fooled!!! Dang horns look like halo at first glance! and FYI, we were not home while alarm was going off! It must be some evil Orca is causing! Just so I cannot sleep at night!


Quoting Orcasystems:



Watch yourself Violet... hehe I think BF is off her meds again..
So was hockey a topic here? Used to hate it. Then the Carolina Hurricanes (yup) went for the Stanley Cup. Now I love hockey.

Violet, WU mail! Also read the comments on SJ's blog.
Beach, I'm just kidding. I don't normally come up with anything very funny and I couldn't resist when I thought of it :o)
Methinks I should go back and scan the last few pages...gimme a few mins.
Quoting violet312s:
So was hockey a topic here? Used to hate it. Then the Carolina Hurricanes (yup) went for the Stanley Cup. Now I love hockey.



Hockey is always a Topic for me :)
Violet, most of it is in the last blog, not this one.
Ooooh. On page 3 I see the problem. Now going back. Wish I would have been here to counter the bickering. I'm a level headed gal.
Ok, Halo is polished.. and ready for another day :)

I see Kyle is ashore in NB and spinning down a but
Orca, no I didn't see Ogopogo. Not even when we were crossing the lake on the ferry. We have seen the salmon spawn on the Adams River. My kids loved that!
LOL No offense... I don't mind being "picked on".... except by old Canucks who have horns that they have mistakenly thought to be their halo???? LOL

We really should get back to the weather discussions.....
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Beach, I'm just kidding. I don't normally come up with anything very funny and I couldn't resist when I thought of it :o)
Quoting violet312s:


Is there a 20-30 word Cliff Notes version available? lol


Controversy. Ike relief funds. Patrap vs. SJ and others. Possible misspending. Possible hacking of PayPal. Under review by Dr. Masters. Good works, maybe bad bookkeeping.

25 words. I do my best.
Quoting violet312s:
Ooooh. On page 3 I see the problem. Now going back. Wish I would have been here to counter the bickering. I'm a level headed gal.


Please don't bring it up in this blog... its over for now, and it should stay over.
Here in Halifax it is still quite windy, but nothing much in the way of rain. We had maybe an hour of moderate to heavy rain, but the winds have been quite strong since about 7pm ADT (GMT -3). No loss of power here, but I didn't lose power when Noel came through either. Thank goodness I wasn't here for Juan.
Japan Meteorological Agency

WWJP25 Tropical Weather Summary (0000z 29SEPT)
=======================================

TROPICAL DEPRESSION (99W)
9.0ºN 133.0ºE - 25 knots 1008 hPa

reported as moving west-northwest at 10 knots
Quoting TSPrime:
Here in Halifax it is still quite windy, but nothing much in the way of rain. We had maybe an hour of moderate to heavy rain, but the winds have been quite strong since about 7pm ADT (GMT -3). No loss of power here, but I didn't lose power when Noel came through either. Thank goodness I wasn't here for Juan.


Thank god.. so Brothers is safe and still in Business
Quoting Orcasystems:


Please don't bring it up in this blog... its over for now, and it should stay over.
blog censorship now in effect and if you havent notice so is all those involved no longer posting or promoting there cause everything is a big hush now

lol
Quoting TSPrime:
Here in Halifax it is still quite windy, but nothing much in the way of rain. We had maybe an hour of moderate to heavy rain, but the winds have been quite strong since about 7pm ADT (GMT -3). No loss of power here, but I didn't lose power when Noel came through either. Thank goodness I wasn't here for Juan.


Hey, TS.

Looks like mostly a non-event, except for maybe local flooding from rain. Power hasn't even blinked much. I'm a bit concerned that folks in future won't take a Hurricane Watch very seriously. Otherwise, we came through O.K. considering what might have been. The crops in the Valley should be spared, and that will be a boost to the economy.
Ok, Ok, back to weather...Looking at the forecasted shear for the next few days, it appears shear will be relaxing in the GOM in about 36 hours for maybe a day and a half, but then it builds back in. I think there is little chance for anything to impact the GOM or the west coast of FL.

At about the 60 hour mark, shear in the ATL starts to decrease significantly. And should remain low for about another three days. With the MJO in an upward pulse and forecasted steering changes, I think we may see one more CV storm make it across the ATL this year. Thoughts anyone?

mekkhala
Now I know the drama. Extremely depressed.

For the record both Press and my "truck match" were via cash directly to Portlight. For those who wanted to figure out how we were "matching". We knew between the two of us we'd be funding 90% of the truck ourselves.

I go away for a few days and a great cause falls apart. :(
Quoting CatastrophicDL:
Ok, Ok, back to weather...Looking at the forecasted shear for the next few days, it appears shear will be relaxing in the GOM in about 36 hours for maybe a day and a half, but then it builds back in. I think there is little chance for anything to impact the GOM or the west coast of FL.

At about the 60 hour mark, shear in the ATL starts to decrease significantly. And should remain low for about another three days. With the MJO in an upward pulse and forecasted steering changes, I think we may see one more CV storm make it across the ATL this year. Thoughts anyone?


Agree'

CMC & ... BOC
CMC & ... Caribbean
CMC & ... Caribbean Blob into Cuba
CMC & ... Caribbean Blob into Tampa
Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
Subtropical Cyclone Formation Alert (95L)



Its been here all day

Quoting violet312s:
Now I know the drama. Extremely depressed.

For the record both Press and my "truck match" were via cash directly to Portlight. For those who wanted to figure out how we were "matching". We knew between the two of us we'd be funding 90% of the truck ourselves.

I go away for a few days and a great cause falls apart. :(


It's still a great cause, and I don't believe anything has broken down entirely. What I believe we have is a failure to communicate.
Quoting bluenosedave:


Hey, TS.

Looks like mostly a non-event, except for maybe local flooding from rain. Power hasn't even blinked much. I'm a bit concerned that folks in future won't take a Hurricane Watch very seriously. Otherwise, we came through O.K. considering what might have been. The crops in the Valley should be spared, and that will be a boost to the economy.

Hey bluenosedave,

I wouldn't say a non-event. We're getting a pretty good blow here, with some strong gusts (like right now the tree outside my window is bent probably 35 degrees from vertical). You have a good point about the hurricane warnings though. Don't know if you caught it, but the CBC news had a forecaster at the Canadian Hurricane Centre talking about how they decided to issue a hurricane warning. For Halifax county there was never a hurricane or tropical storm warning, just a high wind warning, and that seems to have been borne out.

From what I can see from my windows, there is no sign of power loss anywhere in downtown Halifax, but in the parking lot at the foot of my building, a couple of the big garbage bins have been blowing around (fortunately they were empty).
BTW, BF will be back I think.. she actually got to see her NEW PET, skitter across the room.
NO!!!! Dont think that way! Think of it as a pimple.... a smear on a "good intention". Course, I am a pollyanna and I do think the best of everyone.... but I believe that "good things have been done here". Unfortunately all it takes is one misspoken word to tarnish an image. I fully believe that the Relief Effort has been and is a good thing....

Now we return to our regulary scheduled weather blog..... : )
Quoting violet312s:
Now I know the drama. Extremely depressed.

For the record both Press and my "truck match" were via cash directly to Portlight. For those who wanted to figure out how we were "matching". We knew between the two of us we'd be funding 90% of the truck ourselves.

I go away for a few days and a great cause falls apart. :(
Yes! the critter you sent to haunt me has arrived! *squealing, screeching, jumping on furniture...... (now I have to go find traps, while my hubby gently sleeps through it all) *cursing *&^%*^*@#$%^&*
Quoting Orcasystems:
BTW, BF will be back I think.. she actually got to see her NEW PET, skitter across the room.
Complete Blog refresh

I am surprised I pulled this refresh off.. hard to keep the mouse still while you get the graphics... and still ROFLMAO thinking about BF and her new house guest (a mouse).
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Yes! the critter you sent to haunt me has arrived! *squealing, screeching, jumping on furniture...... (now I have to go find traps, while my hubby gently sleeps through it all) *cursing *&^%*^*@#$%^&*


And what exactly is the critter?
Quoting Orcasystems:


Agree'

CMC & ... BOC
CMC & ... Caribbean
CMC & ... Caribbean Blob into Cuba
CMC & ... Caribbean Blob into Tampa


Orca, I love it when someone agrees with me... It never happens here LOL.

We are still neutral with the ENSO, right? And we aren't expecting any changes prior to the end of the year? I think the next couple of weeks may have some surprises for us.
Quoting CatastrophicDL:


Orca, I love it when someone agrees with me... It never happens here LOL.

We are still neutral with the ENSO, right? And we aren't expecting any changes prior to the end of the year? I think the next couple of weeks may have some surprises for us.


I am pretty sure MichealSTL provided info saying it was still neutral earlier today.. could be the wrong nick.
Quoting violet312s:


And what exactly is the critter?


She said it was a mouse, apparently it was smarter and quicker then her watch dogs (Poodles, mice with curly hair)

I better go find a place to hide soon.. hehe she is might be loosing her sense of humour.. along with her memory :)
Mouse = Get a Cat. I've got three. One of which is new to household due to BF of eight years moving in.

Be happy to donate that one. :)
Quoting violet312s:
Mouse = Get a Cat. I've got three. One of which is new to household due to BF of eight years moving in.

Be happy to donate that one. :)


The wife has two Bichon/shitzu dogs
and two Siamese cats. The all love to catch and kill things.

Normally they wait until about 1 am .. and then bring them into the bedroom for her.
So...95L doesn't look like a threat to land.
Quoting TSPrime:

Hey bluenosedave,

I wouldn't say a non-event. We're getting a pretty good blow here, with some strong gusts (like right now the tree outside my window is bent probably 35 degrees from vertical). You have a good point about the hurricane warnings though. Don't know if you caught it, but the CBC news had a forecaster at the Canadian Hurricane Centre talking about how they decided to issue a hurricane warning. For Halifax county there was never a hurricane or tropical storm warning, just a high wind warning, and that seems to have been borne out.

From what I can see from my windows, there is no sign of power loss anywhere in downtown Halifax, but in the parking lot at the foot of my building, a couple of the big garbage bins have been blowing around (fortunately they were empty).


If that's what you're getting, you've got it worse than me, and I was supposed to be right in the cone. Weird system. Currently 1003.5 mb and rising. Somehow the hurricane-force winds dissipated amazingly fast. I'm not complaining, but I think there will be some study of Kyle for a while yet.
Quoting violet312s:
Mouse = Get a Cat. I've got three. One of which is new to household due to BF of eight years moving in.

Be happy to donate that one. :)
Quoting violet312s:
So...95L doesn't look like a threat to land.


Right now.. I would say no



click to enlarge
Oh, I see... wonderful Orca has cursed me. Danged Canuck has sent demons to haunt my house, drive me crazy, make my dogs bark a lot!

BTW Poodles were THE original hunting dog....

Right now, a cat would be o.k.

Can I blame this mouse thing on the WEATHER and of course, Orca?????

It's his fault!!!!

Quoting Beachfoxx:
Oh, I see... wonderful Orca has cursed me. Danged Canuck has sent demons to haunt my house, drive me crazy, make my dogs bark a lot!

BTW Poodles were THE original hunting dog....

Right now, a cat would be o.k.

Can I blame this mouse thing on the WEATHER and of course, Orca?????



Sounds like you need an ORIGINAL poodle :)
I am off to bed.. I need sleep.. not beauty sleep, far to late for that :)

Later all... go to bed BF
Well, better head off to bed. Take care and stay safe.

Beach weren't they the original hunting dog for water foul? I think I'd want something a little larger and fiercer if I were hunting bigger prey.
Quoting violet312s:
Mouse = Get a Cat. I've got three. One of which is new to household due to BF of eight years moving in.

Be happy to donate that one. :)


Never understood mouse = get a cat. Seems like a poor trade. A big stinky critter for a little stinky critter. Animals = in the Barn. People = in the House. My Swiss ancestors didn't cross the wide wide ocean to wind up back in the same building with the livestock. LOL
Shen,
Blame it on Orca!!!! Its ALL his fault! LOL

At least the poodles did roust the vermin out of hiding!

Sleep??? Are you kidding?? Sleep? Aaargh! Another sleepless night in paradise!

Poodles are edgy, I am edgy.... Hubby is snoozing! Like a babe, like an Irish babe in a lullaby... Tis a sad shame, it tis, a mouse in the house, a frantic spouse, two poodles and a mouse! Tis a sad shame.... indeed!

I swear, a hurricane is better than a mouse in the house!
680. 7544
looks like its the month for fla systems and tracks check out the latest gfs below

Link

also the latest nam is showing one over se fla hmm could get interesting soon
G'morning all.

So Kyle's gone, that was a brief one. Any reports of any damage, or all is pretty good in Nova Scotia?

Looks like we may have Laura soon, and my crystal ball prediction of it being in the Gulf was about as way off as you can get. :D Which I'm happy for, those folks don't need anymore. Still looking a bit like a Jerry though...
682. 7544
attention neww blob alert in the sw carib. 14n 75 west could this be the system the models were showing

Link
683. Beta
Subtropical Storm LAURA Forms in the Atlantic
Winds 60 mph
Pressure 993 mb
684. Beta
000
WTNT32 KNHC 290837
TCPAT2
BULLETIN
SUBTROPICAL STORM LAURA ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122008
500 AM AST MON SEP 29 2008

...SUBTROPICAL STORM LAURA FORMS OVER THE NORTH CENTRAL ATLANTIC...

AT 500 AM AST...0900Z...THE CENTER OF SUBTROPICAL STORM LAURA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 37.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 47.3 WEST OR ABOUT 1015
MILES...1635 KM...WEST OF FAYAL ISLAND IN THE WESTERN AZORES.

THE STORM IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. A GRADUAL
TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH ACCOMPANIED BY AN INCREASE IN
FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED ON TUESDAY. LAURA IS NOT FORECAST TO
AFFECT ANY LAND AREAS...AND THE SYSTEM IS ONLY A THREAT TO SHIPPING
INTERESTS OVER THE FAR NORTH ATLANTIC OCEAN.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 60 MPH...95 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...
AND LAURA COULD TRANSITION INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE LATER TODAY AND
POSSIBLY BECOME A HURRICANE BY TUESDAY.

WINDS OF 40 MPH EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 310 MILES...500 KM FROM THE
CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 993 MB...29.32 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 500 AM AST POSITION...37.2 N...47.3 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...60
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...993 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
1100 AM AST.

$$
FORECASTER STEWART
685. Enola
Quoting Beta:
Subtropical Storm LAURA Forms in the Atlantic
Winds 60 mph
Pressure 993 mb

The Navy still has her listed as an invest. Wonder why...
686. NickO
Jeff,

Re. the North Atlantic storm ('Laura'?), this may well recurve away from the U.S.A. and Canada, but I'm not so sure this is going to be good news at all for us here in the U.K! I've just been looking at some jet stream forecasts for the next week, and I think there's a good probability we're going to be slap bang in the middle of the storm's path. If so, it'll set off our Autumn, post-equinoctial storm season with quite a blast. Watch this space ...

Nick O., England
687. Enola
Quoting NickO:
Jeff,

I'm not so sure this is going to be good news at all for us here in the U.K!

Nick O., England

I sincerely hope our cousins "across the pond" do not share in our recent experiences.
Link

For those La and other Entergy Power Co.
customers, They have a site on for those
that are still out of power not that this
will help if your power is out. This is their
storm related power outage site.
Quoting NickO:
Jeff,

Re. the North Atlantic storm ('Laura'?), this may well recurve away from the U.S.A. and Canada, but I'm not so sure this is going to be good news at all for us here in the U.K! I've just been looking at some jet stream forecasts for the next week, and I think there's a good probability we're going to be slap bang in the middle of the storm's path. If so, it'll set off our Autumn, post-equinoctial storm season with quite a blast. Watch this space ...

Nick O., England


National Hurricane Center just declared it Laura.
Now, we have our first subtropical storm of the season, Laura!
Link

Looks like we are going to have to watch the
west GOM pretty soon, dosnt look to stable
in the next couple of days.could be looking at this wrong but I see something, just not sure
how to explain.
Where in Texas are you Jorgenson? I worked with a Radiologist and Orthopedic surgeon a long time ago.
Link

Subtropical Storm Laura!
Link

Intresting stuff
Well that didnt work.
and yet a other name ues this is now the 12 name storm in a row with out none of them going poof from a TD with out geting name yet there has too be a Record in there some where i cant evere re call going up too 12 name storms with out one of them going poof 1st why they where at a TD


some in tells me its time too look up the Record books and see when the last time we had 12 name storms in a row
Quoting Tazmanian:
and yet a other name ues this is now the 12 name storm in a row with out none of them going poof from a TD with out geting name yet there has too be a Record in there some where i cant evere re call going up too 12 name storms with out one of them going poof 1st why they where at a TD


some in tells me its time too look up the Record books and see when the last time we had 12 name storms in a row


I know it happened in 1998 and in 1995 they got to the L named storm before a depression poofed.
Does anyone know why the NHC uses lat/long in base 10 instead of base 6? I mean, look at the following, "AT 1100 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF KYLE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 44.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 65.9 WEST".

True position is 44.48N/65.54W since there is no such thing as 44.8 etc. In reality, 44.6N IS 45.0N.
If you like to watch wave action
Typhoon Fury has some pretty cool
video and pics!

Sample:


Seems Taiwan got slammed pretty hard.
Philippines Atmospherical Geophysical Astronomical Services and Administration

Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #1 (0900z 29SEPT)
==================================
At 5 PM PhT, Tropical Depression Pablo located at 9.9°N 130.7°E or 540 kms east of Surigao City has 10 minute sustained winds of 55 km/h(30kts).

Signal Warnings
================

Warning Signal #1 (30-60 kph winds)

Visayas Region
1.Eastern Samar
697. extreme236 3:20 AM PDT on September 29, 2008
Quoting Tazmanian:
and yet a other name ues this is now the 12 name storm in a row with out none of them going poof from a TD with out geting name yet there has too be a Record in there some where i cant evere re call going up too 12 name storms with out one of them going poof 1st why they where at a TD


some in tells me its time too look up the 697. extreme236 3:20 AM PDT on September 29, 2008
Quoting Tazmanian:
and yet a other name ues this is now the 12 name storm in a row with out none of them going poof from a TD with out geting name yet there has too be a Record in there some where i cant evere re call going up too 12 name storms with out one of them going poof 1st why they where at a TD


some in tells me its time too look up the Record books and see when the last time we had 12 name storms in a row


I know it happened in 1998 and in 1995 they got to the L named storm before a depression poofed.

books and see when the last time we had 12 name storms in a row


I know it happened in 1998 and in 1995 they got to the L named storm before a depression poofed.

ok 236 so would 13 name storms be a new Record then???
morning
sure are going through the PAGASA names quickly..
Link

Wave off of Africa looks impresive also.
705. Enola
Quoting RobDaHood:
If you like to watch wave action

Wow, those are incredible vids. Thanks for the link.
Quoting Enola:

Wow, those are incredible vids. Thanks for the link.


You're welcome. Our UK friends need to keep an eye on Laura
-rob
Enola:

Just read the "About me..." on your blog for the first time. Thanks for the laugh. I wouldn't consider myself old, but I know that song too...

-rob
Good morning... after a little break.

Agree SW carib is the area to watch. There is turning to the clouds and this area is notorius for strong storms developing there. No mojo in the MDR yet.
710. Enola
Quoting RobDaHood:
I know that song too...

-rob

Funny how those little things stick in your memories. :)
ok 236 so would 13 name storms be a new Record then???

Nope. In 1998, we got all the way to Nicole without having an unnamed depression. 14 is likely the record, though.
Just checking in this morning before heading off to classes. See that we now have Subtropical Storm Laura.

In watching satellite loops for Laura, it seems like she is now trying to wrap heavy convection around the center over the past few hours. If this continues, she will become a tropical cyclone and potentially a hurricane like the NHC stated in their first advisory. To be honest, I think that 60mph is underestimating the wind speeds as yesterday morning a ship has reported hurricane force winds.

Now that it appears the Yucatan disturbance just has too much shear to deal with, the disturbance developing in the SW Caribbean has my attention now. This morning, this disturbance has shown cyclonic turning in the lower levels as convection has been steadily increasing. Needs to better organize the convection, but this has good potential to develop into our next tropical depression. The NAM has been consistently depicting development in this region and has done a very good job in the genesis of this disturbance thus far.
Wonder how much Joe b is paid by FoX for his once in awhile shows he puts on on Oreily?
Quoting StormW:
698. AirTrafficMan 6:20 AM EDT on September 29, 2008
Does anyone know why the NHC uses lat/long in base 10 instead of base 6? I mean, look at the following, "AT 1100 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF KYLE WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 44.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 65.9 WEST".

True position is 44.48N/65.54W since there is no such thing as 44.8 etc. In reality, 44.6N IS 45.0N.


Because there are folks that do not know how to plot degrees, minutes and seconds on a map or chart. So, instead of posting it as degrees and minutes, the use the decimal system, in which case, as you've pointed out 44.8 is ACTUALLY 44 degrees,48 minutes N.


Probably has as much to do with setting up equations on the computer.
Good morning everyone...
Quoting cchsweatherman:
Just checking in this morning before heading off to classes. See that we now have Subtropical Storm Laura.

In watching satellite loops for Laura, it seems like she is now trying to wrap heavy convection around the center over the past few hours. If this continues, she will become a tropical cyclone and potentially a hurricane like the NHC stated in their first advisory. To be honest, I think that 60mph is underestimating the wind speeds as yesterday morning a ship has reported hurricane force winds.

Now that it appears the Yucatan disturbance just has too much shear to deal with, the disturbance developing in the SW Caribbean has my attention now. This morning, this disturbance has shown cyclonic turning in the lower levels as convection has been steadily increasing. Needs to better organize the convection, but this has good potential to develop into our next tropical depression. The NAM has been consistently depicting development in this region and has done a very good job in the genesis of this disturbance thus far.


Correct... NAM and NOGAPS have been hinting for a while the development of such... as well as for MM5.
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:
Now, we have our first subtropical storm of the season, Laura!


First named one. Now unnamed that happened the other day.
Morning StormW
How rude of me. Good morning all. Up early StormW or just got kids off to school?
good morning everyone
Morning Shen

Morning Thunder
LOL Storm.

Know the feeling
Looks like Kyle is behaving for the most part...

CBC article
Morning!

Nothing really to crazy to worry about in the tropics right now besides our newly formed STS which poses no threat to land.Models this morning continue to suggest the development of a weak area of low pressure down in the SW caribbean.Conditions look pretty favorable down there during the next 2-3 days so its worth keeping an eye on but certainly nothing to be to concerned about at this time. Adrian
Folks in the UK need to worry about Laura though.

NHC on the 5 day has it making a beeline for the UK. Not saying it may be a major storm but a storm non-the-less
quick off tropic note

seems every forecaster including the Farmers Almanac is at odds with the CPCs winter forecast.

Think its odd and probably the first time I have seen that. Usually someone agrees but appears not so this time.
Does seem odd doesn't Storm.

I figure post season they will upgrade it.
Quoting StormW:
Morning Bonedog; Shen!

Well, both...got up to get fiancee ready and take her to work, now it's time to get the kiddos up for school. Like puttin' in a full work day, before I even get to perform analysis!


LOL

Looks like Laura it going to UK for tea and biscuits...GFDL suggesting flare-up N of Bahamas this week to follow Laura NE.

Cotillion might get a little soggy.

-rob
Storm do you think 94L wasn't named due to being right on the coast or do you feel NHC was too conservative this time around?
hello everyone....been lurking these blogs since before Fay and decided to join....I am in SW FL.
Gotcha Storm

the whole extra-tropical subtropical line LOL
welcome tshirtgirl75
Quoting tshirtgirl75:
hello everyone....been lurking these blogs since before Fay and decided to join....I am in SW FL.


Hello, and welcome!

-rob
I guess it will always be a matter of debate where the line is.

94L proves that.
I really like having a place I can come and look at all the maps(still trying to understand all of them) and form my own opinion. Most of our local weather people seem like they like being on TV and clicking those remotes to change maps but haven't got much of clue on real weather.
came to the right place tshirt. Alot of knowledgeable folks around here.
I would love to be a local weather broadcaster. Only job in the world you can be wrong 90% of the time and still keep your job and get paid to boot
Quoting tshirtgirl75:
I really like having a place I can come and look at all the maps(still trying to understand all of them)...


Don't be shy about posting questions. A lot of people here are willing to help.

I'm in central fl so whatever weather you get this week ends up here a couple hours later.

-rob
The locals up my way bombed this weekends forecast so bad it made me laugh.

Called for 3 days of heavy rains, my rain guage measured 1" total. Mostly passing showers evry couple of hours. Was cloudy though LOL

Apparently the forecast made headlines down in SW Florida as well because my folks were calling me to check up. Saying they heard it was a nasty storm we were dealing with. Told them nope, just a cloudy weekend.
Thought that would make you laugh Storm!

tshirt, exactly don't be afraid to ask. The only stupid question is the one that wasn't asked.
Quoting StormW:
Rob,
Where in Central FL. are you?


Highlands co. on the ridge.

Quoting HurricaneKing:


First named one. Now unnamed that happened the other day.


Strange. The no name storm that came across NC, SC last week wasn't named, but now we have Laura that is no where near land and has a name. Laura has been in the NA for over a week nad has looked impressive all the time.
Quoting StormW:
753. Bonedog 8:05 AM EDT on September 29, 2008
Thought that would make you laugh Storm!

tshirt, exactly don't be afraid to ask. The only stupid question is the one that wasn't asked.


Ditto!

It may take a while sometimes to get back with you...but ALWAYS happy to answer questions.


except the blog just ate my last post..ugh.
Quoting RobDaHood:


Highlands co. on the ridge.



They have ridges in FL? I never met a Fl ridgerunner. Something new every day.
Quoting StormW:


It may take a while sometimes to get back with you...but ALWAYS happy to answer questions.


Right, when things get hectic sometimes a post can get overlooked, you can also use WU mail. If you need info on reading surface maps/sat data I can send you some links.

Also, in case you don't know, StormW does a pretty good outlook for FL weather, just click on his name.

-rob
well off to work...unfortunately owning the business they expect me there on time..LOL.

I will def. be back on later.
StormW What is the potetial of wave in the catl with cyclonic turning near 17n 41w has for development?
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:


They have ridges in FL? I never met a Fl ridgerunner. Something new every day.


Ancient Islands from when FL was under the sea.
runs down center of state n to s and ends north of Lake O.

Only 100-200 ft above sea level for the most part, but no storm surge worries. Also where the E/W seabreezes tend to meet so get a lot of T-Storms in summer. BigTime citrus country.

-rob
766. IKE
62 days...16 hours....41 minutes left in the season....
Quoting RobDaHood:


Ancient Islands from when FL was under the sea.
runs down center of state n to s and ends north of Lake O.

Only 1=200 ft above sea level for the most part, but no storm surge worries. Also where the E/W seabreezes tend to meet so get a lot of T-Storms in summer. BigTime citrus country.

-rob


is that what I see when heading North on 27 in the Bok Tower area??
Quoting tshirtgirl75:


is that what I see when heading North on 27 in the Bok Tower area??


Yep, Bok Tower is about 45 min north of me on 27
Three tropical cyclones at the Northwestern Pacific Basin.



771. IKE
My forecast for the inland Florida panhandle for Wednesday night...

Wednesday Night
Cooler. Mostly clear. Lows 48 to 53 inland...53 to 58 near the coast.


I doubt anything tropical will get up here in the next 5-7 days.
772. IKE
Long-term from Mobile,AL....

Long term...by 12z Tuesday deepening middle to upper trough of low pressure over
the MS River Valley gives way to better clouds for much of the County warning forecast area
by Tuesday afternoon continuing through late Wednesday morning...with no
significant precipitation expected. This system also helps drive weak low
over the south central Gulf ne'ward towards the lower Florida Peninsula.
Deep middle to upper trough continues over the much of the eastern Continental U.S.
And north central Gulf through Friday allowing cooler drier air to
advect southward from the central part of the country to the
northern Gulf states and north central Gulf. High temperatures will range
from the upper 70s well inland to lower 80s closer to the coast Wednesday
through Friday. By 12z Sat latest forecasts from the GFS depict a fairly
strong tropical wave moving west into the southeast Gulf. This system looks
to drift west to the central Gulf over the weekend with surface ridge
holding strong over much of the eastern Continental U.S.. long range forecasts
depict surface low to deepen over the central Gulf through early next
week. Will use the current 00z mex guidance for temperatures in the
extended periods.
Quoting IKE:
My forecast for the inland Florida panhandle for Wednesday night...

Wednesday Night
Cooler. Mostly clear. Lows 48 to 53 inland...53 to 58 near the coast.


I doubt anything tropical will get up here in the next 5-7 days.


Stop bragging IKE LOL

Some of that cooler/drier air should make it down here by thursday am. Until then = grey and wet. At least it's keeping the AC bills down!

-rob
Quoting IKE:
My forecast for the inland Florida panhandle for Wednesday night...

Wednesday Night
Cooler. Mostly clear. Lows 48 to 53 inland...53 to 58 near the coast.


I doubt anything tropical will get up here in the next 5-7 days.


Nice!

Send some of that down here!
775. IKE
Quoting RobDaHood:


Stop bragging IKE LOL

Some of that cooler/drier air should make it down here by thursday am. Until then = grey and wet. At least it's keeping the AC bills down!

-rob


LOL....48-53....brrr...on the 1-2 of October. That's got to be near record cold and this mornings discussion from Tallahassee indicates it might be lower then that!
Quoting RobDaHood:


Ancient Islands from when FL was under the sea.
runs down center of state n to s and ends north of Lake O.

Only 100-200 ft above sea level for the most part, but no storm surge worries. Also where the E/W seabreezes tend to meet so get a lot of T-Storms in summer. BigTime citrus country.

-rob


200 ft = a bump in the road. Work 600ft above were I live and have to cross a little mountain folks from the Rockies call a bump in the road. LOL
Quoting IKE:


LOL....48-53....brrr...on the 1-2 of October. That's got to be near record cold and this mornings discussion from Tallahassee indicates it might be lower then that!


I'm wishing for a mild winter like we had last year. Only a few chances to break out the leather, but didn't need gloves to work outside. Lots of evenings sipping rum drinks on the deck watching sunset over lake. Perfect.
778. IKE
Quoting RobDaHood:


I'm wishing for a mild winter like we had last year. Only a few chances to break out the leather, but didn't need gloves to work outside. Lots of evenings sipping rum drinks on the deck watching sunset over lake. Perfect.


Yes...sounds nice...I live on a lake too...out-in-the-country....so quiet outside you can hear a pin drop.

They could bury me out here for what it's worth.
Quoting Fraidycat:
http://www.chron.com/hurricane/ike/

It's also pretty apparent that the local folks in Chambers County don't have the resources they need to recover the bodies. They aren't letting in Texas Equisearch, a pretty professional group. I don't know what's up with that.


There was also a comment after the article by a reader:

"...I was part of an out-of-state, specialized marine emergency rescue team deployed to Texas to assist in the rescue of storm flood victims. We left Florida Saturday September 13th at the request of State of Texas public safety officials . Midway through our deployment our mission was canceled due to Texas Task Force One taking control of the situation. Without regard to your specialized equipment our team was called off.

In watching the news reports, I personally witness Texas Task Force One engaging in antiquated methods of flood rescue, utilizing inflatable boats, undersized jon-boats and jet skies. It was VERY obvious that the entire operation was a dog and pony show. The Texas Task Force One excluded all other rescue resources in order to make themselves appear superior to all other resources.

I adamantly proclaim that the flood rescue methods and techniques used by Texas Task Force One and FEMA were antiquated and archaic. This was proven during the flooding of New Orleans in 2005.

What has taken Texas Task Force One to accomplish in 48 hours with 1,000 rescue personnel could have easily been accomplished within 18 hours with 100 personnel. There has been a serious misallocation of manpower and resources that may have very well resulted in human suffering and the loss of life.

God bless the souls of those who were lost and give their families the strength to deal with their loss."

Unfortunately, as with so many other aspects of this hurricane, I cannot find another source to collaborate. If anyone else has a link to another article addressing the efficiency, please share.

If true, I am very disappointed that the "Powers that be" (maybe not Texas, itself) turned away help. We obviously need all the trained personnel that is willing to come and help us.
780. IKE
I'll go ahead and take a stab.

I think Marco develops in the western Caribbean within a week or so.

Nice blob in the east-central GOM now...looks like rain for the west coast of Florida.
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:


200 ft = a bump in the road. Work 600ft above were I live and have to cross a little mountain folks from the Rockies call a bump in the road. LOL


Never said it was high, (LOL) but most people in south/central FL know where it is. (it's that bump between tampa and miami) Also if the poles melt again, I'll be one of the last ones building an Ark...
GM all,wish someone would find the off switch and turn off all this rain up here.
775-IKE & 777-RobDaHood

I'm seriously jealous you guys. We don't get anything resembling "fall" or "winter" until at least Dec. in Miami. Too much sunshine. Grey, overcast and cool sound perfect to me. At least we're going to have a couple of rainy days to break up the sunshiny monotony.
hey NE

I see you got all the rain we were supposed to get
Quoting Nocturnal37:
775-IKE & 777-RobDaHood

I'm seriously jealous you guys. We don't get anything resembling "fall" or "winter" until at least Dec. in Miami. Too much sunshine. Grey, overcast and cool sound perfect to me. At least we're going to have a couple of rainy days to break up the sunshiny monotony.


Exactly how I felt last month. August and September are the worst.

If IKE is cold then I am comfy and you're still hot. Sorry, just geography.
Morning Amigo's -- haven't checked the wave charts yet.... hoping that Yucatan item will be just big enough to rock the buoys - haven't had a ride since IKE ...and paddling the buoys gets a little old
Ike - you can keep those cool temps... I'm not ready to give up my summer look just yet
thanks StormW
morning surfmom. Hope you get some nice swells soon. Not fun when its just a lake ;)

Not excuses for milk and bread needed on those days
Quoting Bonedog:
hey NE

I see you got all the rain we were supposed to get


Yep,the cape got the most around 6 inches,I got around 4,at least Kyle took a jog to the east and didn't effect us much,other than pulling some tropical air over us.
Quoting IKE:
62 days...16 hours....41 minutes left in the season....
and its over!
seems kind of a waste of a name,giving Laura to that thing out there in the atlantic
Quoting surfmom:
Morning Amigo's -- haven't checked the wave charts yet.... hoping that Yucatan item will be just big enough to rock the buoys - haven't had a ride since IKE ...and paddling the buoys gets a little old


Morning Surfmom


-rob
Morning everyone......
Yea NE at least you got rain. They forecasted doom and gloom for me and all I got was a lousy cloudy day with some sprinkles.
Bone would love to give you some of that rain,have had over 9 inches this month
morning,Tampa
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:


200 ft = a bump in the road. Work 600ft above were I live and have to cross a little mountain folks from the Rockies call a bump in the road. LOL


That's why they call runners from FL Flatlanders. I remember when my youngest took his first ride to Brooksville (he was 3) he freaked out w/glee as I drove up and down the hills -- "mountains, mountains" -- a true Fl. flatlander.
799. melly
RobDaHood, My parents lived in Lake Placid.
They lived on Lake June, on Lake June Dr. They are both gone now, but I still travel two hours to Lake Placid to see the beautiful Caladiums, and the murels(sp) on the walls.
Quoting melly:
RobDaHood, My parents lived in Lake Placid.
They lived on Lake June, on Lake June Dr. They are both gone now, but I still travel two hours to Lake Placid to see the beautiful Caladiums, and the murels(sp) on the walls.


You almost found me, that's about 5 miles away.
LP is a pretty nice little town.
797. NEwxguy 12:59 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
morning,Tampa


Morning.....tell that isn't the one and only BONEDOG.....great to see ya

LOL surfmom. It is kinda funny how everyone has their own idea of what a mountain is LOL.
Quoting surfmom:


... I remember when my youngest took his first ride to Brooksville (he was 3) he freaked out w/glee as I drove up and down the hills -- "mountains, mountains" -- a true Fl. flatlander.


ROFLMAO -- almost fell outta my chair!
804. melly
tshirtgirl, The Bok Tower is the one in Clermont, There is a tower also on 27 in Lake Placid
Hey Tampa!! Yup its me :)
Ike, can you update us on the score of storms for the 2008 season?

Thanks, trunk monkey
783Nocturnal - I kinda (w/all respect) disagree with you. Once the light changes I feel Fall. I think the seasonal changes are subtle, but maybe cause I've lived here so long, but I sense, feel, smell a change in the air....just looking at how the light and the shadows change...the different fruit tress that bear fruit, the clarity of the blue sky --once the humidity lets off, the cooling of the water/ocean - grumble, grumble and ANIMAL HAIR LOL -- it's everywhere. Horses, dog, cats chickens -- everything I care for is either blowing a coat or molting feathers
listen to this radio station.....great sports talk radio.....

Link
804. melly

Clermont = citrus tower
Near lake wales = bok tower
Lake Placid = Lake Placid Tower or (originally) Placid Tower

Yeah, we're kinda big on towers here i guess
Bummer, looks like that Yuca low has skunked me --looks like its staying weak --maybe.... a knee high bump on Thursday.........poop
Knee high is still nice with a longboard though. Fun long lazy rides :)

Man a wish I got wet once this season :(
812. melly
Rob.You are right, got my towers mixed up... The one name that always makes me laugh
is the true name for "Lake Walk-In-Water"
Well if the low everyone is talking about forming in the Western Carib it won't be coming near the gulf.

Just bought 3 tickets for the RAYS game on thursday......
morning!!!
Hey, Bone, Tampa, NE, Storm, Orca, Surfmom..wazzup?
happy Monday... :oP

didnt get more than a sprinkle of rain all weekend! I think I'll have to water the garden if it doesnt rain today. Maybe I'll just wash my car..then it will rain.

813. cmackla 1:17 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
Well if the low everyone is talking about forming in the Western Carib it won't be coming near the gulf.


Steering suggests it would move into the GOM currently...

Quoting Celia1970:


There was also a comment after the article by a reader:

"...Unfortunately, as with so many other aspects of this hurricane, I cannot find another source to collaborate. If anyone else has a link to another article addressing the efficiency, please share.

If true, I am very disappointed that the "Powers that be" (maybe not Texas, itself) turned away help. We obviously need all the trained personnel that is willing to come and help us.


Good Morning everyone,

I just wanted to comment on this. Having lived my whole life on the Gulf coast; I am really befuddled with the closed coverage of search and rescue post Ike. Every news story talks about those coming home but very little to nothing about search and rescue. I even DVR'd different channels thinking the one I was watching may not be covering as well. I have read the local papers. It is eerie. Everyone I talk to says the same thing. The math doesn't add up. Either not that many people stayed (as was stated) or many more died than they are saying. I have only seen coverage of about 2000 rescues or so? They also bused a few thousand off of Galveston after the storm. It is really different from my recollections of storms previous. I thought maybe I was just paranoid or not looking in the right places but speaking to others there is lots of rumor and what is being said by first responders and what is being reported are very different animals.

I don't understand why, I suppose. The truth is what it is and why would you cover it up or not ask for help? I know many are in shelters and folks don't know where they are because they have been separated but not that many.

Okay, off my soapbox. It is just disconcerting.

Stacia
Rob.You are right, got my towers mixed up

happens from time to time...no sweat

The one name that always makes me laugh
is the true name for "Lake Walk-In-Water"


You mean Weohyakapka??

Sebring, FL has a lot of street with Seminole or Miccosukee names. It's funny when people can't even pronounce the name of the street they live on. Must drive 911 operators nuts.
807-Surfmom

Well yes you have a point, there is a certain change in the air somewhere around mid-October that I sense also but I want a real fall, lol. The afternoons get a wee bit cooler and breezier and I also put up Halloween decorations so that it seems more "fallish". I also spend more time vacuming all the pet hair as you mentioned. But we don't get cold fronts until much later. I think one year we had one right before Thanksgiving but it didn't stick around to make the holiday feel cozier. Oh well. That's Miami for ya.
820. IKE
Quoting trunkmonkey:
Ike, can you update us on the score of storms for the 2008 season?

Thanks, trunk monkey


12 Systems.
6 canes.
3 majors.
I am back...just got into my shop and its a little quiet so I figured I would jump back in here:)
Quoting TampaSpin:
Just bought 3 tickets for the RAYS game on thursday......


Yanks took the Sox 6-2 on Sunday

Yahoo!!
Morning Lake :) Happy Monday to you too.
welcome back tshirt
Quoting tshirtgirl75:
I am back...just got into my shop and its a little quiet so I figured I would jump back in here:)


see, there are a few advantages to being the owner!
Quoting tshirtgirl75:
I am back...just got into my shop and its a little quiet so I figured I would jump back in here:)


welcom to the blog!
let me guess..you sell t-shirts at your shop?
811 awww bonedog -- wish I could fix that for you..... I got a long board, but this year I bought a fat, thick swallow-tail fish. It really boosted my learning curve...now I don't get so battered just getting to the beach (the wind)of course I can't walk the plank, but it grabs every little thing, and even if I'm late --it's very forgiving and doesn't pitch. Not to make you feel sad, perhaps to motivate you - check out the 'cane surf pics on Gulfster.com......Aurasurf too -- some very lovely waves. EasternSurfMagazine has a terrific article on Jersey surfers too!

Favorite wave maker of the season thus far -- goes to Dolly. Hurricane Ike gets the prize for ehight, power and duration -- but he was so nasty (with jellies and his devastation)there was really no joy or pleasure --the sadness was in the water.
sounds like a nice stick surfmom. Haven't repaired or bought a new once since the wipeout last year.

Watched many a set roll in this year from some of the storms just never went out.

Hands down Hanna was the best up here 2' overhead, groundswell, no rip, long rights. Lasted about a week that way.
822. npenta519 1:21 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
Quoting TampaSpin:
Just bought 3 tickets for the RAYS game on thursday......


Yanks took the Sox 6-2 on Sunday

Yahoo!!


Guess the other half wasn't too thrilled but, you couldn't talk to much smack with the Yanks out......lol
Quoting LakeShadow:


welcom to the blog!
let me guess..you sell t-shirts at your shop?


you caught me....actually make them.
how long does it take for my icon picture to show up?
Quoting tshirtgirl75:


you caught me....actually make them.


cool... silkscreen? I'm an artist, so the craft is important. Lol... silkscreening is fun. and messy (at least when I do it). but messy is fun.
830. tshirtgirl75 1:34 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
Quoting LakeShadow:


welcom to the blog!
let me guess..you sell t-shirts at your shop?


you caught me....actually make them.


Can you make 1 that says Red Sox suxs.....lol
Quoting surfmom:
783Nocturnal - I kinda (w/all respect) disagree with you. Once the light changes I feel Fall. I think the seasonal changes are subtle, but maybe cause I've lived here so long, but I sense, feel, smell a change in the air....just looking at how the light and the shadows change...the different fruit tress that bear fruit, the clarity of the blue sky --once the humidity lets off, the cooling of the water/ocean - grumble, grumble and ANIMAL HAIR LOL -- it's everywhere. Horses, dog, cats chickens -- everything I care for is either blowing a coat or molting feathers


Hey surfmom...I totally agree. I was born & raised here and the changes are subtle to most, but I can definitely tell the season changes. I remember growing up that we use to "freeze" at halloween. LOL!
Quoting staciahouston:


Good Morning everyone,

I just wanted to comment on this. Having lived my whole life on the Gulf coast; I am really befuddled with the closed coverage of search and rescue post Ike. Every news story talks about those coming home but very little to nothing about search and rescue. I even DVR'd different channels thinking the one I was watching may not be covering as well. I have read the local papers. It is eerie. Everyone I talk to says the same thing. The math doesn't add up. Either not that many people stayed (as was stated) or many more died than they are saying. I have only seen coverage of about 2000 rescues or so? They also bused a few thousand off of Galveston after the storm. It is really different from my recollections of storms previous. I thought maybe I was just paranoid or not looking in the right places but speaking to others there is lots of rumor and what is being said by first responders and what is being reported are very different animals.

I don't understand why, I suppose. The truth is what it is and why would you cover it up or not ask for help? I know many are in shelters and folks don't know where they are because they have been separated but not that many.

Okay, off my soapbox. It is just disconcerting.

Stacia





I have been following all this on my blog since Ike.
It's very disturbing.....here's a link:

Ike's missing
People reporting missing after Hurricane Ike, from a database by the Laura Recovery Center.

• More than 400 still missing two weeks after Hurricane Ike

Quoting LakeShadow:


cool... silkscreen? I'm an artist, so the craft is important. Lol... silkscreening is fun. and messy (at least when I do it). but messy is fun.


yep I am a screenprinter and embroidery. all kinds of ad specialty items too. 11 years in the industry...ugh seems like so long!
2 bodies found Saturday in debris piles near Galveston and Bolivar, was in the Galveston Daily news.
Quoting tshirtgirl75:


yep I am a screenprinter and embroidery. all kinds of ad specialty items too. 11 years in the industry...ugh seems like so long!


I know what you mean.. I've been with my husband for about 11 years...
Quoting RobDaHood:
804. melly

Clermont = citrus tower
Near lake wales = bok tower
Lake Placid = Lake Placid Tower or (originally) Placid Tower

Yeah, we're kinda big on towers here i guess


My favorite attraction is "Spook Hill". It works with emergency response vehicles just as good. :-)
Quoting TampaSpin:
830. tshirtgirl75 1:34 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
Quoting LakeShadow:


welcom to the blog!
let me guess..you sell t-shirts at your shop?


you caught me....actually make them.


Can you make 1 that says Red Sox suxs.....lol


LOL....now tell us how you really feel....
Emmy posted this article on my blog last night:


Two weeks after Ike, more than 400 are still missing

Gail Ettenger made her last phone call at 10:10 p.m. She was trapped in her Bolivar Peninsula bungalow with her Great Dane, Reba. A drowning cat cried outside. Her Jeep bobbed in the seawater surging around her home.

Ettenger, 58, told her friend she was reading old love letters by flashlight. "I think I really screwed up this time," she said, according to Monroe Burks, Ettenger's neighbor who had evacuated to Houston.

That was Friday, Sept 12. On Wednesday — 12 days later — her nearly nude body was found face down by a huge debris pile in a remote mosquito-ridden marsh in Chambers County, about 10 miles inland from where her gray beach house once stood.

Quoting fmbill:


My favorite attraction is "Spook Hill". It works with emergency response vehicles just as good. :-)


ROFL - picturing the antique American Lafrance Ladder truck my dad used to own rolling up hill.

Cool place though, optical illusion that is definitely worth a short side trip to see.

Quoting melly:
tshirtgirl, The Bok Tower is the one in Clermont, There is a tower also on 27 in Lake Placid


The Bok Tower is actually in Lake Wales
835Bill - use to freeze LOL - If I was up "north" by Ike, I'd have the thermal shirt on -- paddled the gulf Saturday with a long sleeve rash guard and -- it was 80degrees. I think my blood has so thinned out -- probably all those long runs in 90 degree heat (which you add an additional 20 degree for heat index - once your cooking, same when you are working out the horses)
throwing it out there again...how long will it take for my icon photo to show up?
847. tshirtgirl75 1:49 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
throwing it out there again...how long will it take for my icon photo to show up?


Until the Admin. approves it......no time frame...it just has to be approved.
Quoting TampaSpin:
847. tshirtgirl75 1:49 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
throwing it out there again...how long will it take for my icon photo to show up?


Until the Admin. approves it......no time frame...it just has to be approved.


gotcha....thank you.
tshirt usually takes a few moments. If not try logging out then back in :)
Quoting StormW:
839. LakeShadow 9:41 AM EDT on September 29, 2008
Quoting tshirtgirl75:


yep I am a screenprinter and embroidery. all kinds of ad specialty items too. 11 years in the industry...ugh seems like so long!


I know what you mean.. I've been with my husband for about 11 years...


LOL!
Are we all that bad?


Storm - that is a seriously dangerous question to ask LOL
Quoting vortfix:





I have been following all this on my blog since Ike.
It's very disturbing.....here's a link:

Ike's missing
People reporting missing after Hurricane Ike, from a database by the Laura Recovery Center.

• More than 400 still missing two weeks after Hurricane Ike


This is concerning regarding the media - as I am finding the same lack of information, as well as an amazing amount of apathy among people. But when you figure that the diversity of news is regulated to just a few corporations -who ever is in charge must deem this is not important news.....I'm just incredulous, but I am about a great many things presently
nevermind my last post. been awhile since I uploaded mine.

sorry
855. melly
I'm at work and not supposed to be looking at non-work related stuff, but I couldn't help it when you mentioned Spook Hill in Lake Wales. When I was very small me and my brother went there with my mom driving. She stopped the car at the line and put it in Neutral. Nothing happened we sat there for 5 minutes . Me and my brother started moving around in the back seat trying to get the car to roll. Nothing happened. My brother who is older than me climbed into the front seat.

"Mom had her freekin' foot on the brake"
We all almost peed our pants.
Quoting surfmom:
835Bill - use to freeze LOL - If I was up "north" by Ike, I'd have the thermal shirt on -- paddled the gulf Saturday with a long sleeve rash guard and -- it was 80degrees. I think my blood has so thinned out -- probably all those long runs in 90 degree heat (which you add an additional 20 degree for heat index - once your cooking, same when you are working out the horses)


Exactly. I really do appreciate to the cool, dry season we have here, but my skin longs for the heat & humidity. So...it usually works out that be September, I'm really looking forward to winter...and by March, I'm really looking forward to summer. There's just so much fun here year-round, I can't imagine living anywhere else.
Quoting tshirtgirl75:
throwing it out there again...how long will it take for my icon photo to show up?


Initially had trouble uploading mine, but once it uploaded (problem w/javascript settings) it was a matter of minutes. Admin check the images to make sure they are apropriate, so maybe they are a little busy. Did you check the little box that says something like "make this my avatar".

go to you page and see if it is set there. Seems I had to do that too.
melly you're a trip!

wow talking about very very deep convection on mekkhala
LOL Melly thats funny
855. melly 1:54 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
I'm at work and not supposed to be looking at non-work related stuff, but I couldn't help it when you mentioned Spook Hill in Lake Wales. When I was very small me and my brother went there with my mom driving. She stopped the car at the line and put it in Neutral. Nothing happened we sat there for 5 minutes . Me and my brother started moving around in the back seat trying to get the car to roll. Nothing happened. My brother who is older than me climbed into the front seat.

"Mom had her freekin' foot on the brake"
We all almost peed our pants.


Been there also. What a great illiusion of vision that is......wow
The news stations all have mentioned that approximately 400 people still missing and unaccounted for from Bolivar and Galveston. Just not much to report until they are found - if ever. the two bodies found in the storm debris piles are just tragic. The ones that were washed out to sea or deeply buried in sand will remain lost. Ike was more than most any one expected at land fall. I knew how bad it could be from Dr. Masters and this blog.
859. btwntx08


that's one angry looking storm!
Quoting npenta519:


Yanks took the Sox 6-2 on Sunday

Yahoo!!


lol,well I guess Yankees fans have to scratch for something to cheer about to get them through a long,long off season
firefly it is very tragic. What is amazing to is even after the NWS said that if you stood behind in those areas you will die people stood.

I pray for the loved ones of those missing and all the families uprooted, displaced, and forever affected by the storm.
Quoting StormW:
847. tshirtgirl75 9:49 AM EDT on September 29, 2008
throwing it out there again...how long will it take for my icon photo to show up?


Did you save it as main profile?


That's the phrase I was trying to think of. There is a checkbox on the lower left of upload screen. that you have to mark for your main profile image. I think there was a place in the settings that you could use too once an image was uploaded but I can't find it now.

If it hasn't shown up by now I would try again.
Quoting TampaSpin:
813. cmackla 1:17 PM GMT on September 29, 2008
Well if the low everyone is talking about forming in the Western Carib it won't be coming near the gulf.


Steering suggests it would move into the GOM currently...



Well let me rephrase then....if anything were to form down there, I will have a heck of a time getting near where I live in LA. And the map I posted has a date of 10/8/2008 (9 days out from now) and judging from how the NHC cannot get it right 5 days out you take any of these models with a huge grain of salt....

We have a cold front moving down mid week so I will only worry about things forming in the BOC or off one of those fronts....plus history has shown that as we get into October two things happen:

1) We get more storms that re-curve
2) They move into Florida
847. Mine showed up in about 3 hours.
RE: Ike Missing Persons

Haven't commented on this cause it's hard to know what to say. But I do care.

I think we all knew that the death toll would be high. Many of the bodies will never be recovered and we will never know exactly how many.

I can't think of anything that I can personally do to improve the situation except try to help and be supportive of the survivors.

-rob
Quoting fireflymom:
The news stations all have mentioned that approximately 400 people still missing and unaccounted for from Bolivar and Galveston. Just not much to report until they are found - if ever. the two bodies found in the storm debris piles are just tragic. The ones that were washed out to sea or deeply buried in sand will remain lost. Ike was more than most any one expected at land fall. I knew how bad it could be from Dr. Masters and this blog.


And it isn't like there was no warning:

LIFE THREATENING INUNDATION LIKELY!

ALL NEIGHBORHOODS...AND POSSIBLY ENTIRE COASTAL COMMUNITIES...
WILL BE INUNDATED DURING HIGH TIDE. PERSONS NOT HEEDING EVACUATION
ORDERS IN SINGLE FAMILY ONE OR TWO STORY HOMES WILL FACE CERTAIN
DEATH.
MANY RESIDENCES OF AVERAGE CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY ON THE
COAST WILL BE DESTROYED. WIDESPREAD AND DEVASTATING PERSONAL
PROPERTY DAMAGE IS LIKELY ELSEWHERE. VEHICLES LEFT BEHIND WILL
LIKELY BE SWEPT AWAY. NUMEROUS ROADS WILL BE SWAMPED...SOME MAY BE
WASHED AWAY BY THE WATER. ENTIRE FLOOD PRONE COASTAL COMMUNITIES
WILL BE CUTOFF. WATER LEVELS MAY EXCEED 9 FEET FOR MORE THAN A
MILE INLAND. COASTAL RESIDENTS IN MULTI-STORY FACILITIES RISK
BEING CUTOFF. CONDITIONS WILL BE WORSENED BY BATTERING WAVES. SUCH
WAVES WILL EXACERBATE PROPERTY DAMAGE...WITH MASSIVE DESTRUCTION
OF HOMES
...INCLUDING THOSE OF BLOCK CONSTRUCTION. DAMAGE FROM
BEACH EROSION COULD TAKE YEARS TO REPAIR.
Michael posted the warning I was talking about. I have never seen wording like that from the NHC or NWS.
G'morning All

The buoy readings from Western Caribbean and BOC (42055, 42056, 42057, 42058)have nothing of note to show this morning.

Will check again this afternoon
Quoting Bonedog:
Michael posted the warning I was talking about. I have never seen wording like that from the NHC or NWS.


I was really glad to see a NWS forecaster take a stance like that. To many times you see things being "toned down". If you're wrong you look foolish, might even get chewed out by the boss, and this forecaster caught a lot of flak over that statement. But, he/she was right and it needed to be said. I was proud of him.
Quoting MichaelSTL:


And it isn't like there was no warning:

LIFE THREATENING INUNDATION LIKELY!

ALL NEIGHBORHOODS...AND POSSIBLY ENTIRE COASTAL COMMUNITIES...

Yeah, I remember it and was glad to have left. I was not coastal but had to evacuate a child at school so the rest of us left as well. I have read the articles about the 400 but I also wonder how many entire families and neighbors are gone and can't report each other missing.

I suppose it seems to me officials are behaving as though most of these folks will be found in shelters. It does seem they have backed off of the idea 20,000 had stayed and rode out Ike. It must have been far fewer. For those washed out or buried when will they start declaring it? I suppose I worry if they keep the number at 30 and most of those weren't in the area; then people won't be very serious when the next storm comes. I have good friends who were very lucky this time but should not have stayed.

It just seems everyone is repeating the same line with no real substance. I understand they don't know but it keeps coming across as odd. Don't know how to probably explain the feeling I suppose.

Stacia
-caveat: I don't want it to be a horrific number of dead and would actually rather it stay at 30. I just want folks to be more serious next time. Ike wasn't as bad as it was supposed to be and it seems folks have been pretty laissez faire about it.
What I want to know is how did that woman end up i a debris pile 10 miles inland away from her original location. Is the surge that powerful to travel so far?
!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEW BLOG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoting Bonedog:
Michael posted the warning I was talking about. I have never seen wording like that from the NHC or NWS.


I think we have seen this wording once before...during Hurricane Katrina.

1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!