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January global temperatures 11th - 17th warmest on record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:14 PM GMT on February 18, 2011

January 2011 was the globe's 17th warmest January on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies rated January the 11th warmest on record. January 2011 global ocean temperatures were the 11th warmest on record, and land temperatures were the 29th warmest on record. Global satellite-measured temperatures for the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere were average,the 16th or 17th coolest in the 34-year record, according to Remote Sensing Systems and the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH). The global cool-down from November, which was the warmest November on record for the globe, was due in large part to the on-going moderate strength La Niña episode in the Eastern Pacific. The large amount of cold water that upwells to the surface during a La Niña typically causes a substantial cool-down in global temperatures. Notably, the January 2011 global ocean temperature was the warmest on record among all Januaries when La Niña was present. The ten warmest Januaries occurred during either El Niño or neutral conditions.


FIgure 1. Departure of temperature from average for January 2011. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC).

The coldest places on the globe in January, relative to average, were Mongolia, Southern Siberia, and China. China recorded its coldest January since 1977, and second coldest January since national records began in 1961. Record or near-record warm conditions were experienced in Northeast Canada, Western Greenland and Northern Siberia.

A cold and dry January for the U.S.
For the contiguous U.S., January temperatures were the 37th coldest in the 116-year record, and it was the coldest January since 1994, according to the National Climatic Data Center. Despite the heavy snows in the Northeast U.S., January was the 9th driest January since 1895. This was largely due to the fact that the Desert Southwest was very dry, with New Mexico recording its driest January, and Arizona and Nevada their second driest.

Sea ice extent in the Arctic lowest on record during January
January 2011 Northern Hemisphere sea ice extent was the lowest on record in January, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center. This was the second consecutive month of record low extent. Satellite records extend back to 1979. The area of missing ice was about twice the size of Texas, or 60% the size of the Mediterranean Sea. Ice was notably absent in Northeast Canada and Western Greenland, and Hudson Bay did not freeze over until mid-January, more than a month later than usual. This was the latest freeze-up on record, and led to record warmth over much of Northeast Canada. Frobisher Bay on Baffin Island had its warmest January on record, 1.1°C above the previous record set in 1985. Weather records for the station go back to 1942.

An incredible 110° temperature swing in 1 week in Oklahoma
The temperature in Bartlesville, Oklahoma shot up to a record 82°F yesterday, just seven days after the city hit -28°F on February 10. This 110°F temperature change has to be one of the greatest 1-week temperature swings in U.S. history. The -31°F that was recorded in nearby Nowata last week has now been certified by the National Weather Service as the new official all-time coldest temperature ever recorded in Oklahoma. What's more, the 27 inches of snow that fell on Spavinaw, Oklahoma during the February 8 - 9 snowstorm set a new official state 24-hour snowfall record. The previous record was 26", set on March 28, 2009, in Woodward and Freedom.

A 100+ degree temperature change in just six days is a phenomenally rare event. I checked the records for over twenty major cities in the Midwest in Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Wyoming, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, and Montana, and could not find any examples of a 100-degree temperature swing in so short a period of time. The closest I came was a 108° swing in temperature in fourteen days at Valentine, Nebraska, from -27°F on March 11, 1998 to 82°F on March 25, 1998. Valentine also had a 105°F temperature swing in fifteen days from November 29, 1901 (71°F) to December 14, 1901 (-34°F.) Our weather historian, Christopher C. Burt, lists the world record for fastest 24-hour change in temperature as the 103°F warm-up from -54° to 49° that occurred on January 14 - 15, 1972, during a chinook wind in Lowe, Montana. This week's remarkable roller coaster ride of temperatures in Oklahoma is truly a remarkable event that has few parallels in recorded history.

Tropical Cyclone Carlos' deluge abates
Darwin, Australia suffered its greatest 24-hour rainfall in its history on Wednesday, when a deluge of 13.4 inches (339.4 mm) hit the city when Tropical Cyclone Carlos formed virtually on top of city and remained nearly stationary. Carlos has now dissipated, and brought only an additional 1.50" (38 mm) of rain yesterday to Darwin. Over the past four days, Carlos has dumped a remarkable 26.87" (682.6 mm) of rain on Darwin (population 125,000), capital of Australia's Northern Territory. Australia's west coast is also watching Tropical Cyclone Dianne, which is expected to remain well offshore as it moves southwards, parallel to the coast.


Figure 2. Solar flare of February 15, 2011, as captured by the SOHO and SDO spacecraft. Image credit: NASA.

Space weather: biggest solar flare in 4 years
The strongest solar flare in more than four years erupted on the sun at 0156 UTC on Tuesday, when giant sunspot 1158 unleashed an X2-class eruption. X-class flares are the strongest type of x-ray flare, and this week's flare is the first X-class flare of the new 11-year sunspot cycle 24, which began in 2009 - 2010. The flare was accompanied by a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME), which means that a portion of the sun's atmosphere was ripped away and thrown into space. High-energy particles from the CME arrived at Earth at 01 UTC this morning, and sky watchers at high northern latitudes may be able to see auroras over the coming few nights. Consult NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center or spaceweather.com for updates.

Jeff Masters

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The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Quoting jwh250:
Xyrus, I know you have a lot more than 5 comments. After my last comment, my count also reset from 150 or so back to zero. I could care less myself, just odd is all.


Interesting. Probably a bug in the software or something.

Not too concerned about it.
Hmmm...... so it seems very rare that a TC actually retains its tropical characteristics as it approaches NZ.... even in the North Island the impacts seem to be more from extratropically-transitioned storms than those which are still tropical storms. This is pretty interesting, because in the ATL TCs seem to persist past 35N on a fairly regular basis.... an effect of the Gulf Stream?
Quoting JFLORIDA:
518 SLOW Warming is good for species diversification to a point. After about 90 degrees many biological pathways becomes less efficient and cooling becomes a concern in plant AND animals. Over about 100 degrees damage and death begins to occur in species not modified for extreme conditions.

Most adaptations not involving a trait linked to a single or few nucleotides take a substantial amount of time to occur. In a rapid warming scenario the temperature FAR out-paces adaption and with the spread of invasive species extinctions occur.



Quoting RecordSeason:


And you think evolutionary theory and abiogenesis are "real science"?

You will not find "hope" or "peace" in the godless civilization you envision. already, the movement away from any reverence for God is turning the western world into a culture of death. America and Europe alone, through the practise of abortion, have made the Massacre of the Innocents, and even Hitler's Holocaust, look like a square dance, and the key enabling factor has been the "doctrine" that life is meaningless and that the unborn are a useless and inconvenient piece of garbage to be discarded.

The irony is that atheists condemn and mock the "superstitions", and yet they do all of the clearly WRONG things that the false religions and false gods promoted, including killing their own children. They burned their children as an offering to the gods baal and chemosh and molech, but atheists devour their own childen because of the god of "self"....and it is now normalized and accepted, and progressives who are for world population decrease even PROMOTE this as "good".


Then we have "judges" who uphold this abomination as a "fundamental right" of women to murder their children.


"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones."


I am convinced that one of the biggest contributing factors to crime, school massacres, and suicide today is caused by the fact that they are all being brainwashed by the left to believe that they are just a meaningless accident with no purpose in life.

They reason that if life is meaningless, then why bother. They further reason, perhaps, that if life is meaningless they can even screw it up for others to "get even" in the process.


Ironically, the Muslims really don't have that much work to do to finish off Europe and America, because Europe and America are killing themselves through their godless abortions and other forms of insanity, reducing their population growth to zero or in some cases even negative. We have something like 40 million murderers walking the streets, and they do not even bat an eye or lose sleep. They have no remorse and no regrets, and they did this intentionally, while the guy who merely accidentally killed someone, we hypocritically send to jail.


We live in one of the most evil and murderous generations in the history of the world, and because it is done in the "dark" where nobody sees it, you think it does not matter, and again, I'm not talking about China or Cambodia or Africa. I'm talking about the "good" ole U.S. and Europe. Mass murder and genocide are perfectly legal, so long as you call it "medicine".

Legal doesn't make it right.


I think you will find, in a hostorical surveyor present day for that matter, that most crimes of hate are committed by religious people. In my humble opinion, the reason is simple: athiests, agnostics and people with less strong religious beliefs actually base their actions on the idea of common humanity. The love or worship of god shouldn't but seems to all too often, remove the love of fellow human beings.

I think if a country was started where everyone was genuinely athiest (as opposed to a communist country where athiesm was forced on religious people), that country would be head and shoulders ahead of the rest of the world.

I say this as a non athiest by the way. Even as a believer in god, I find the opinions of other people about their belief about as interesting as stories about thier sex life: mine is fine, thank you, I am ahppy yours is too but I'd really rather not know how you got peanut butter on your trampoline.
Wow, my spelling is really off today.
Blog flight!
Quoting RecordSeason:


The most catastrophic droughts and famines in history have been associated with volcanism and/or extreme cooling events, not warming events.

True.

Global cooling:

A. Mass species extinction due to change in environment.
B. Decrease in plant productivity, and because of the fact that plants are primary producers and make up the first level of the trophic pyramid, all the other organisms experience decreased populations, causing a decrease in proliferation of "life" on earth as a whole.

Global warming:

A. Species extinction due to change in environment, probably less than that of cooling to the same degree.
B. Speciation as a whole proliferates. This is because under a warmer environment the primary producers, plants thrive under a warmer environment (examples include tropical rainforests, the most species rich and diverse biomes in the world. Another example would be during the dinosaur age). Greater production on the first trophic level allows for greater speciation on all levels of the trophic pyramid.

Now, notice both cooling and warming experience extinction. BUT, under warming we see emergence of many new species and the proliferation of "life" as a whole. Under cooling we do not.

That's that. Warming sees proliferation of life as a whole, cooling does not. Simply because of plant productivity, this is because plant life makes up the base of the food chain in all food chains-they are the primary producers, the first level in the trophic pyramid. Extinction is also worse in cooling. But warming also sees extinction.

So warming is probably better than cooling, but that doesn't mean warming doesn't have it's problems.



Also, as to your original point, multi billion dollar weather disasters, floods, droughts, etc. are more common under warming than they are during cooling. So, warming does have it's problems. Though as already stated, proliferation of life as a whole is noticeably higher in a warmer environment.
Quoting RecordSeason:


Uh huh..

and now we know that you, like most people, have never actually bothered to read the Bible you disbelieve.

The text itself tells us that Adam and Eve had at least 5 sons and at least 2 daughter.

Cain
Abel
Seth

are named directly.

Other "Sons and Daughters" are mentioned, but not named, in Genesis chapter 5, verse 3 and 4:

"...begat a son in his own likeness, after his image, and called his name 'Seth': and the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: AND HE BEGAT SONS AND DAUGHTERS."


Note that "sons" is plural, as is "daughters".

If you follow the genealogy, you will find that though none of the daughters are mentioned by name, except the wives of a polygamist named Lamech, who used God's mercy on Cain as an excuse to commit murder, other than Eve and these two women, no other female antedeluvian is mentioned by NAME. However, every couple in the genealogy had at least three sons, one named and two un-named, and at least two daughters, Except Noah, who had 3 sons (triplets,) and no daughters.

All male descendents of Cain perished in the flood, though Noah's wife may have been descended from Cain or one of Adams un-named sons, we aren't told, and Noah's sons' wives may have been descended from Cain or one of Adam's un-named sons, we aren't told.

So the answer to your question is that it is an ignorant and mis-informed question, usually posed by people who have never actually bothered to read the text, and certainly not in depth...

The reality is that almost every objection unbelievers have is usually based on the fact that someone has actually lied to them about the content of the text, and presented paradoxes such as this, which upon further examination, there is no paradox at all. The text itself explained that perfectly.

Nothing against you personally, it's just I get this sort of thing all the time from people who don't believe the Bible, and it turns out they've never bothered to read it, or they have a liar or otherwise mis-informed person telling them what it says.

And yes, people lived that long because they were originally created perfect and did not get cancer or diseases. It took that long to wear out Adam's body.

I thought that incest is supposed to be a bad thing.

507 - In world history or human history? - if we are talking human history here then there have been no extreme warming events until now.

So its effects are unknown on a global scale by historical comparison in the human record alone.
Quoting BahaHurican:
Hmmm...... so it seems very rare that a TC actually retains its tropical characteristics as it approaches NZ.... even in the North Island the impacts seem to be more from extratropically-transitioned storms than those which are still tropical storms. This is pretty interesting, because in the ATL TCs seem to persist past 35N on a fairly regular basis.... an effect of the Gulf Stream?


I checked the climate stats for Auckland, NZ on the north part of North Island, and the summers there are not very warm. Average summer temps stay in the upper 60s. The ocean probably doesn't get warmer than that. Strong hurricanes just can't maintain themselves over water in the upper 60s.
Quoting DDR:
and don't forget keeper,to make money


Quoting weatherboy1992:


I checked the climate stats for Auckland, NZ on the north part of North Island, and the summers there are not very warm. Average summer temps stay in the upper 60s. The ocean probably doesn't get warmer than that. Strong hurricanes just can't maintain themselves over water in the upper 60s.
Seems so. On another site I read NZ has been hit by only two hurricane strength storms in the last 100 years, the last in 1936. [which IMO implies they are likely to get another one soon....] Also I saw that where the TC zone in the northern hemisphere extends to about 35N, it only goes to about 22S .... My initial impression was that we've a strong warm current in the ATL which would contribute to hurricane persistance further north; I don't see anything like that for OZ or NZ....
Oops! Gotta run. Back later.
Hi all,

Here's a great webcam of the auroras live-

http://salmon.nict.go.jp/live/aurora_cam/live_aur ora_cam_e.html

Even in daylight they are visible - amazing

-Jad
"the Muslims really don't have that much work to do to finish off Europe and America"

For someone who defends religion so steadfastly, this is ignorant beyond belief.
We're just under 100 days from hurricane season.
Quoting jadnash:
Hi all,

Here's a great webcam of the auroras live-

http://salmon.nict.go.jp/live/aurora_cam/live_aur ora_cam_e.html

Even in daylight they are visible - amazing

-Jad


Thanks for the link. But I think you talk too much on this blog. ;) j/k
Quoting JFLORIDA:
507 - In world history or human history? - if we are talking human history here then there have been no extreme warming events until now.

So its effects are unknown on a global scale by historical comparison in the human record alone.


No, I know we haven't had any extreme warming in recent human history. I was making the point that under a warmer planet, life as a whole on the planet becomes more prolific. Species still will go extinct from failure to adapt, but life will proliferate because plant life proliferates.

Plants proliferate under a warmer planet because they're is greater precipitation under a warmer planet, and a longer growing period and less periods of frost/freezing which inhibits plant growth.

If you have greater plant growth, you will see greater species growth on all levels of the food chain. This is because plants are the primary producers; they're the base level in the trophic pyramid.

Now obviously under cooling we would see the opposite of this. Not only would species go extinct from failure to adapt, but plant production would decrease due to less evaporation meaning less precipitation, and shorter growing periods.


Notice both cases have extinction from failure to adapt, so I am not suggesting warming is a good thing. It is a good thing for species evolution, and the proliferation of life as a whole on the planet, but it is not necessarily good for humans, because as I said, extinction will occur for species who can not adapt to the new environment.
Quoting PcolaDan:


Thanks for the link. But I think you talk too much on this blog. ;) j/k


PcolaDan,

Yes, I'll try to hold it down if I can :-)
That assumption isnt zactly the path were seeing.


Global warming will cause plants and animals to migrate

A new study estimates that animals and plants will have to migrate, on average, nearly a quarter of a mile each year to keep up with shifting climate belts caused by global warming.


One upon a time, adaptation to global warming was dubbed a cop-out, a way to duck the challenge of reducing, and ultimately eliminating, greenhouse-gas emissions from cars, factories, and power plants.

Now, however, the issue is front and center a necessary adjunct to reducing emissions. One significant adaptation challenge involves protecting as much of Earth's biodiversity as possible in what is projected to be a prolonged period of rapid if sometimes erratic warming.


#515 +1
521.

Err.. I'm not quite sure how to respond to that one.
Quoting Patrap:
That assumption isnt zactly the path were seeing.


Global warming will cause plants and animals to migrate

A new study estimates that animals and plants will have to migrate, on average, nearly a quarter of a mile each year to keep up with shifting climate belts caused by global warming.


One upon a time, adaptation to global warming was dubbed a cop-out, a way to duck the challenge of reducing, and ultimately eliminating, greenhouse-gas emissions from cars, factories, and power plants.

Now, however, the issue is front and center a necessary adjunct to reducing emissions. One significant adaptation challenge involves protecting as much of Earth's biodiversity as possible in what is projected to be a prolonged period of rapid if sometimes erratic warming.




If this was in response to my posting, I know that, I am not at all saying warming is a good thing, or that we should embrace it.

Warming means a change. Humans probably could adapt, but it would be at the cost of millions, if not billions of lives. A much easier solution is just work to stop our effec on climate to help prevent any chance at extreme warming.

All I was suggesting is that life proliferates more under a warmer earth, BUT what life proliferates is different then the current organisms inhabiting earth. Meaning warming is good from mother natures perspective, but from a humans perspective it is not a good thing.
518 SLOW Warming is good for species diversification to a point. After about 90 degrees many biological pathways becomes less efficient and cooling becomes a concern in plant AND animals. Over about 100 degrees damage and death begins to occur in species not modified for extreme conditions.

Most adaptations not involving a trait linked to a single or few nucleotides take a substantial amount of time to occur. In a rapid warming scenario the temperature FAR out-paces adaption and with the spread of invasive species extinctions occur.
527. JRRP
Magnitude 6.2 - NEAR THE EAST COAST OF KAMCHATKA, RUSSIA



2011 February 20 21:43:20 UTC

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Magnitude 6.2
Date-Time

* Sunday, February 20, 2011 at 21:43:20 UTC
* Monday, February 21, 2011 at 09:43:20 AM at epicenter
* Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 55.920°N, 162.114°E
Depth 9.3 km (5.8 miles) set by location program
Region NEAR THE EAST COAST OF KAMCHATKA, RUSSIA
Distances 260 km (160 miles) WNW of Nikol'skoye, Komandorskiye Ostrova, Rus.
380 km (235 miles) SSE of Palana, Koryakia, Russia
395 km (245 miles) NNE of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy, Russia
6660 km (4140 miles) NNE of MOSCOW, Russia 1
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 13.3 km (8.3 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST=521, Nph=604, Dmin=394.1 km, Rmss=0.94 sec, Gp= 22°,
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Event ID usb0001hpw
Another 3+ magnitude quake near Conway, Arkansas
That's kinda all "Fracked up" seems in Conway.

3.3 temblor
Quoting Patrap:
That's kinda all "Fracked up" seems in Conway.

3.3 temblor
nothing to see here move along it was just fireworks
Quoting Patrap:
That's kinda all "Fracked up" seems in Conway.

3.3 temblor


The thing about these quakes is they seem to be getting closer to the surface. The 4+ one they had earlier was 4+ miles deep. The later ones have been in the 2-3+ mile deep range, and the most recent one is only 1.4 miles deep.

If this were in a different area, I would say this sounds like magma trying to make it's way to the surface. But the only semi active area is the New Madrid fault, and there aren't any hotspots around the area.

However, there was that volcano in Mexico that sprouted in the middle of some poor farmer's field, so I suppose there is a non-zero chance that it could be magma. Very very unlikely though.
Has spring sprung in south Florida?

538. afj3
Correct me if I am wrong but it there a theological debate taking place in a weather blog?
Spring has arrived in central FL. Just don't see another freeze happening, at least along the east coast.. Had a high of 77.7º today. I've been planting warm season veggies all month. A bunch came up today.


Extreme high tides have flooded parts of the low-lying Marshall Islands capital Majuro with a warning Sunday of worse to come because of rising sea levels. Several areas of the city were flooded Saturday and forecasters predicted more to come on Sunday evening before the current high tide levels ease. Flooding of the Marshall Islands atolls, many of which rise less than a metre (three feet) above sea level, will increase in "frequency and magnitude" in the coming years, University of Hawaii marine researcher Murray Ford said. Dr Ford, who is studying rising sea levels in the Marshall islands, said the weekend's extreme tides of 1.67 metres were exacerbated by La Nina, a weather phenomenon that has caused the base sea level to rise by 15 centimetres in recent months. "As the sea level is temporarily higher as a result of La Nina and overlies long-term sea level rise, the impacts are magnified," Dr Ford said. "While these events happen only a handful of times a year at present they will continue to increase in both frequency and magnitude." Dr Ford said a gauge measuring long-term sea level changes at Majuro indicated the "average sea level is more than six inches above predicted" levels. The Marshall Islands, a collection of coral atolls and islands, announced plans late last year to build a wall to hold back rising sea levels around Majuro which is home to nearly half of the country's 55,000 population. Overcrowding in the urban centre have forced people to build homes within a couple of metres of the shore, increasing their exposure to flooding during peak tide periods.


"In Blog we trust"
About 300,000 residents of Cascavel in Brazil's western Parana state were left without drinking water when engine oil from an overturned tank truck polluted a local river, Brazilian media said on Sunday. More than 5 metric tons of oil products leaked to the road and then to the river via drainage systems. The local environmental authority IAP estimated environmental damage as "significant."

Scientists warn of $2,000bn solar ‘Katrina’


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/67444b2c-3d13-11e0-bbff -00144feabdc0.html#axzz1EXuN58lN

More hysteria from the scientific community.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Has spring sprung in south Florida?

yeah the push of warm air has begun the cold winter this season for you is done
Quoting afj3:
Correct me if I am wrong but it there a theological debate taking place in a weather blog?

No, not a debate; just some straight-thinking people helping to keep the focus on real science while minimizing interjections of superstition, pseudo-science, and anti-science.
We've spotted these past tests from earthquakes...


North Korea has started digging tunnels at its nuclear test site in apparent preparation for a third atomic detonation, a report said Sunday. The North started building at least two new tunnels at Punggye-ri in the northeastern province of North Hamgyong for a possible underground atomic test, Yonhap news agency said, citing a senior Seoul official. The communist nation conducted its first two nuclear tests, in October 2006 and May 2009, in Punggye-ri, the second coming the month after it walked out of six-party regional nuclear disarmament talks. "It is obvious evidence that it (the North) is preparing a third nuclear test," said the unnamed official quoted by Yonhap. Pyongyang is building more than one tunnel to choose the best one for a possible test, as tunnels cannot be reused after a nuclear test blast, the official was quoted as saying. The official added the possible test would probably be carried out using material from the North's plutonium stockpile, which Seoul and Washington estimate to be enough for six to eight bombs. The nuclear-armed North in November disclosed an apparently operational uranium enrichment plant to visiting US experts, heightening regional security fears. Pyongyang claims the programme is for peaceful energy development. But outside experts have said it could easily be converted to produce weapons-grade uranium, giving the North a potential second way of making atomic bombs. Security concerns heightened further after recent satellite images showed Pyongyang was taking steps to test a missile that could eventually reach the US. An image posted on the website of US defence information group GlobalSecurity.org showed a completed missile launch tower at the North's Tongchang-ri base on the west coast. US Defence Secretary Robert Gates warned last month that North Korea could have missiles within five years that would directly threaten the United States.
N. Korea Nuke Test.

Lite Fuse,get away

Ha ha.Up here in D.C were having our own version of a mardi Gras on tuesday.Who ever has the best costume wins to go to the real one.
Quoting Patrap:
N. Korea Nuke Test.

Lite Fuse,get away



Anyway their were a ton of homes damaged in the Suburbs of D.C,such as Arundle county,Montgomery county,and P.G county by brush fires.
I've read several times on this blog how harmful increasing SSTs were to coral reefs. Some beg to differ.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2011/ 02/18/coral-reefs-expand-as-the-oceans-warm/
here is parade from oct 2010

554. afj3
Quoting Neapolitan:

No, not a debate; just some straight-thinking people helping to keep the focus on real science while minimizing interjections of superstition, pseudo-science, and anti-science.

I hear ya!!! And agree
Quoting twincomanche:

Scientists warn of $2,000bn solar ‘Katrina’


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/67444b2c-3d13-11e0-bbff -00144feabdc0.html#axzz1EXuN58lN

More hysteria from the scientific community.


First, your link doesn't work that well. Seems like all the articles are behind a registration wall.

Second, it isn't hysteria. It's actually a well known fact that our grids, and satellites are ill-equipped when it comes to dealing with massive solar flares.
Quoting Neapolitan:

Absolutely. There is no other scientific theory--much less any one of the numerous silly creation myths--that comes anywhere close to fitting the truth as beautifully and elegantly as evolution does.


And in creation's place is the idea that all life developed from a single cell.

A single cell that turned into both plant life and animal life.

A single cell that evolved into both skeletal and exo-skeletal creatures.

A single cell that formed both warm-blooded and cold blooded animals.

A single cell that allowed creatures to both swim and fly.

Where's the fossil record that shows this orderly progression from one to the next? Plant life first, then animal life?

Herbivores, omnivores or carnivores first?

What set of nature's conditions determined that an exoskeleton was better, and still kept an internal skeleton?

Seems to be a few holes in the theory.
How was everyone's weekend?.Mines was wonderful.I went to the mall today,and then afterwards went to the resturant and talked to some friends.I hope everyone enjoyed their weekend.And yes! no work tomorrow so I get to sleep in to at least 8:00 or 8:30.(I usually wake up at 5:30 am on the daily bases)
The Carrington Event listed in Wikipedia as the Solar Storm of 1859. The Doc blogged on it a while back.

From Wikipedia:

On September 1%u20132, 1859, the largest recorded geomagnetic storm occurred. Aurorae were seen around the world, most notably over the Caribbean; also noteworthy were those over the Rocky Mountains that were so bright that their glow awoke gold miners, who began preparing breakfast because they thought it was morning.[4]

Telegraph systems all over Europe and North America failed in some cases even shocking telegraph operators.[5] Telegraph pylons threw sparks and telegraph paper spontaneously caught fire.[6] Some telegraph systems appeared to continue to send and receive messages despite having been disconnected from their power supplies.[7]
Funny, those ice cores also store information about previous solar storms. Wikipedia:

Ice cores contain thin nitrate-rich layers that can be used to reconstruct a history of past events before reliable observations. These show evidence that events of this magnitude — as measured by high-energy proton radiation, not geomagnetic effect — occur approximately once per 500 years, with events at least one-fifth as large occurring several times per century.[3] Less severe storms have occurred in 1921 and 1960, when widespread radio disruption was reported.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
yeah the push of warm air has begun the cold winter this season for you is done
What about Lower Al?
How is the Earth going to feed 8 Billion people by 2050?
BTW - since this a tropical weather blog, thouth this story interesting:

Geographer re-creates ‘The Great Louisiana Hurricane of 1812

Geographer re-creates ‘The Great Louisiana Hurricane of 1812’

UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA

Nearly 200 years before Hurricane Katrina, a major storm hit the coast of Louisiana just west of New Orleans. Because the War of 1812 was simultaneously raging, the hurricane’s strength, direction and other historically significant details were quickly forgotten or never recorded.

But a University of South Carolina geographer has reconstructed the storm, using maritime records, and has uncovered new information about its intensity, how it was formed and the track it took.

Cary Mock’s account of the “Great Louisiana Hurricane of 1812” appears in the current issue of the Journal of the American Meteorological Society, a top journal for meteorological research.

“It was a lost event, dwarfed by history itself,” said Mock, an associate professor in the College of Arts and Sciences. “Louisiana was just in possession by the United States at the time, having been purchased from France only years before, and was isolated from the press.”

Mock said historians have long known a hurricane hit New Orleans on Aug. 19, 1812, but they didn’t know the meteorological details about the storm.

“Hurricane Katrina is not the worst-case scenario for New Orleans, as its strongest winds were over water east of the eye,” he said. “The 1812 hurricane was the closest to the city, passing just to the west. It wasn’t as big as Katrina, but it was stronger at landfall, probably a mid-three or four category hurricane in terms of winds.”

Detailed information about past hurricanes is critical to helping climatologists today forecast and track hurricanes. But until recently, little was known of hurricanes that occurred before the late 19th century, when weather instrumentation and record keeping became more sophisticated and standardized. Mock’s research has shed light on much of the nation’s hurricane history that has remained hidden for centuries.

“A hurricane like the one in August 1812 would rank among the worst Louisiana hurricanes in dollar damage if it occurred today,” Mock said. “Hurricane Betsy was 100 miles to the west. Katrina was to the east. A 1915 hurricane came from the south. By knowing the track and intensity, as well as storm surge, of the August 1812 hurricane, we have another worst-case-scenario benchmark for hurricanes. If a hurricane like it happened today -- and it could happen -- it would mean absolute devastation.”

Mock has spent the last decade creating a history of hurricanes and severe weather of the eastern U.S. that dates back hundreds of years. Using newspapers, plantation records, diaries and ships’ logs, he has created a database that gives scientists the longitudinal data they’ve lacked. His research has been funded by nearly $700,000 in grants from the National Science Foundation and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Mock began researching the August 1812 hurricane, along with other early Louisiana hurricanes, in 2006.

Newspaper accounts, which included five from Louisiana and 17 from other states, described hourly timing of the storm’s impact, wind direction and intensity, rainfall, tide height and damage to trees and buildings.

The Orleans Gazette description of the impact of storm surge on the levees is one example:

“The levee almost entirely destroyed; the beach covered from fragments of vessels, merchandize (sic), trunks, and here and there the eye falling on a mangled corpse. In short, what a few hours before was life and property, presented to the astonished spectator only death and ruin,” the newspaper reported.

The environmental conditions of the Louisiana coast were different in 1812; the sea level was lower, elevation of the city was higher and the expanse of the wetlands far greater. These conditions would have reduced the storm surge by at least several feet, Mock said.

Some of the most valuable sources to Mock’s research were maritime records, which include ship logbooks and ship protests, records submitted by ship captains to notaries detailing damage to goods as a result of weather. Ship logs, updated hourly, include data about wind scale, wind direction and barometric pressure.

Because of the war, England bolstered its naval presence, providing Mock, the first academic researcher to conduct historical maritime climate research, with a bounty of records to help him re-create the storm’s path and intensity.

“The British Royal Navy enforced a blockade of American ports during the War of 1812,” Mock said. “The logbooks for ships located in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea had all sorts of valuable information.”

In addition to 12 British navy logbooks, he was able to use information from logbooks of the USS Enterprise and from an American merchant vessel. Ship protest records from the New Orleans Notarial Archives provided Mock with some surprising contributions.

“I was initially pretty pessimistic on what I would find in the ship protests,” Mock said. “I thought I’d find a few scraps and be in and out in two days. I was wrong. I found a trove of material and ended up going back eight times.”

Archivists presented Mock with upward of 100 books for every year, each 800 pages in length and none indexed with the word hurricane. After scouring the records, Mock uncovered nearly 50 useful items related to the 1812 hurricane, including accounts from the schooner Rebecca, which described the storm in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico in a protest that was filed with notary Marc Lafitte.

It described a 4 p.m. heavy gale that increased to a perfect hurricane wind, with the shifting of winds by noon the next day. The shift of winds from the northeast to the northwest told Mock the storm track passed to the east of the Rebecca.

Using the logs and protests, Mock was able to correlate the precise location of ships with the hourly weather and create a map of the storm’s path through the Gulf of Mexico.

“Its initial approach was toward Mississippi, but then it turned northwest toward Louisiana as it approached landfall in the afternoon on Aug. 19,” Mock said. “The USS Enterprise had the most detailed wind observations at New Orleans. A change in winds to the southwest around local midnight tells me that the storm center skimmed as little as five kilometers to the west of New Orleans.”

To further understand the hurricane’s formation and dissipation, Mock reviewed records stretching north to Ohio and east to South Carolina. Included among them were meteorological records by James Kershaw in Camden, S.C., which are part of the collections of USC’s South Caroliniana Library.

“I wanted to collect data from a wide area to understand the weather patterns, pressure systems and the very nature of the 1812 hurricane,” Mock said. “A better understanding of hurricanes of the past for a wide area provides a better understanding of hurricane formation and their tracks in the future.”

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More pictures listed at the site.

I'm going to try and find the link to the Journal of the American Meteorological Society, and post it here.

Just one more hurricane track to add to the history.
Quoting scott39:
How is the Earth going to feed 8 Billion people by 2050?

From today's Wall Street Journal

"Could beetles, dragonfly larvae and water bug caviar be the meat of the future? As the global population booms and demand strains the world's supply of meat, there's a growing need for alternate animal proteins. Insects are high in protein, B vitamins and minerals like iron and zinc, and they're low in fat. Insects are easier to raise than livestock, and they produce less waste. Insects are abundant. Of all the known animal species, 80% walk on six legs; over 1,000 edible species have been identified. And the taste? It's often described as 'nutty'." (Article...)

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

We can raise them on spacious bugmeat farms spread out along the Gulf Coast of Tennessee...
Quoting hcubed:


And in creation's place is the idea that all life developed from a single cell.

A single cell that turned into both plant life and animal life.

A single cell that evolved into both skeletal and exo-skeletal creatures.

A single cell that formed both warm-blooded and cold blooded animals.

A single cell that allowed creatures to both swim and fly.

Where's the fossil record that shows this orderly progression from one to the next? Plant life first, then animal life?

Herbivores, omnivores or carnivores first?

What set of nature's conditions determined that an exoskeleton was better, and still kept an internal skeleton?

Seems to be a few holes in the theory.


I highly doubt that all forms of life originated from a single cell. In fact human cells contain mitochondria(s) which are distinctly different from the host cell (both in origin and biological processes). Plant and bacterial cells are also distinctly different then animal cells. There were probably multiple cells, cell fragments, random proteins, ect that happened to interact over extremely long periods of time. If it happened to not occur the way that it did then you wouldn't be here to question it in the first place no?

Do you really want to get down to the very basis of creation? Look up the dark flow; my research indicates that there is a universe sized "black-hole" like object at the center of the universe which has and always will exist. Matter and energy go in the one end, and energy and matter go out the other creating various "big bangs" over long periods of time (this can also explain every property of the known universe as noted by scientific research). And yes, black-holes can eject matter; I won't go into the details of such process though.
Quoting hcubed:


And in creation's place is the idea that all life developed from a single cell.

A single cell that turned into both plant life and animal life.

A single cell that evolved into both skeletal and exo-skeletal creatures.

A single cell that formed both warm-blooded and cold blooded animals.

A single cell that allowed creatures to both swim and fly.

Where's the fossil record that shows this orderly progression from one to the next? Plant life first, then animal life?

Herbivores, omnivores or carnivores first?

What set of nature's conditions determined that an exoskeleton was better, and still kept an internal skeleton?

Seems to be a few holes in the theory.


You're initial premise is incorrect. Abiogenesis doesn't begin with cells, and neither does evolution. It took over a billion years for the first cells to appear. It's also likely that life began in multiple places spread out over time. Natural selection drove differentiation over billions of years to form more complex life forms.

You also assume that plants came first, which isn't correct. The clear delineation between plant and animal didn't happen for some time. Early life forms (eukaryotes and such) had no such distinction

The fossil record shows evolution pretty clearly over time. Is the fossil record complete? Of course not, nor will it ever be. It takes a perfect set of circumstances for fossilization to occur, and between Earth's seismic activity and weathering most organisms over the course of Earth's history have left little if any trace.

But the real test of any theory is whether or not it can explain observations and make useful predictions, which evolution does.

Now if you have a better scientific hypothesis to explain observations and make predictions without invoking magical sky wizards and such, by all means research and publish it. But you're going to need a very very very solid case to show that evolution is incorrect.
I like grits, bacon and eggs for breakfast.
About that Journal article, here's the link:

THE GREAT LOUISIANA
HURRICANE OF AUGUST 1812


Abstract

Major hurricanes are prominent meteorological hazards of the U.S. Atlantic and Gulf coasts. However, the official modern record of Atlantic basin tropical cyclones starts at 1851, and it does not provide a comprehensive measure of the frequency and magnitude of major hurricanes. Vast amounts of documentary weather data extend back several centuries, but many of these have not yet been fully utilized for hurricane reconstruction. These sources include weather diaries, ship logbooks, ship protests, and newspapers from American, British, and Spanish archives. A coordinated effort, utilizing these historical sources, has reconstructed a major hurricane in August 1812, which is the closest to ever pass by New Orleans, Louisiana, including Hurricane Katrina. The storm became a tropical depression in the Caribbean Sea, passed south of Jamaica as a tropical storm, and then strengthened to hurricane strength in the Gulf of Mexico. It made landfall about 65 km southeast of New Orleans and passed just to the west of the city. Historical storm surge and damage reports indicate it as a major hurricane at landfall. Given that conditions during 1812 include having lower sea level, higher land elevation prior to human-induced subsidence, and more extensive wetlands, a recurrence of such a major hurricane would likely have a greater detrimental societal impact than that of Hurricane Katrina. The 1812 hurricane study provides an example of how historical data can be utilized to reconstruct past hurricanes in a manner that renders them directly comparable with those within our modern record.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I like grits, bacon and eggs for breakfast.

+1
Rest in Peace Uncle Leo...



Quoting Neapolitan:

From today's Wall Street Journal

"Could beetles, dragonfly larvae and water bug caviar be the meat of the future? As the global population booms and demand strains the world's supply of meat, there's a growing need for alternate animal proteins. Insects are high in protein, B vitamins and minerals like iron and zinc, and they're low in fat. Insects are easier to raise than livestock, and they produce less waste. Insects are abundant. Of all the known animal species, 80% walk on six legs; over 1,000 edible species have been identified. And the taste? It's often described as 'nutty'." (Article...)

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

We can raise them on spacious bugmeat farms spread out along the Gulf Coast of Tennessee...
Ive eaten Chocolate covered crickets before. They were pretty tasty. The developing countries are the ones that will suffer even more. It takes 7 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of meat and about 3 pounds to make eggs and milk. I wonder how long it would take to deplete our supply of insects? It would take alot of insects for this big boy to eat! LOL
Quoting Xyrus2000:


First, your link doesn't work that well. Seems like all the articles are behind a registration wall.

Second, it isn't hysteria. It's actually a well known fact that our grids, and satellites are ill-equipped when it comes to dealing with massive solar flares.


More junk science.
There you go. This has not been peer reviewed and comes from a newspaper so therefore is of no relevance of course.

Scientists warn of $2,000bn solar %u2018Katrina%u2019

By Clive Cookson in Washington

Published: February 20 2011 17:50 | Last updated: February 20 2011 17:50

The sun is waking up from a long quiet spell. Last week it sent out the strongest flare for four years %u2013 and scientists are warning that earth should prepare for an intense electromagnetic storm that, in the worst case, could be a %u201Cglobal Katrina%u201D costing the world economy $2,000bn.

Senior officials responsible for policy on solar storms %u2013 also known as space weather %u2013 in the US, UK and Sweden urged more preparedness at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington.
EDITOR%u2019S CHOICE
Scientists project humans into avatars - Feb-17
Listen to the FT Science podcast - Jun-03
Sun throws new light on global warming - Oct-07
A disastrous truth - Jan-21
Governments warned on cyber crime - Jan-17
Jamming of GPS signals threatens vital services - Feb-23

%u201CWe have to take the issue of space weather seriously,%u201D said Sir John Beddington, UK chief scientist. %u201CThe sun is coming out of a quiet period, and our vulnerability has increased since the last solar maximum [around 2000].%u201D

%u201CPredict and prepare should be the watchwords,%u201D agreed Jane Lubchenco, head of the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. %u201CSo much more of our technology is vulnerable than it was 10 years ago.%u201D

A solar storm starts with an eruption of super-hot gas travelling out from the sun at speeds of up to 5m miles an hour. Electrically charged particles hit earth%u2019s atmosphere 20 to 30 hours later, causing electromagnetic havoc.

Last week%u2019s solar storm may have been the biggest since 2007, but it was relatively small in historical terms.

It caused some radio communications problems and minor disruption of civil aviation as airlines routed flights away from the polar regions, said Dr Lubchenco.

A more extreme storm can shut down communications satellites for many hours %u2013 or even cause permanent damage to their components. On the ground, the intense magnetic fluctuations can induce surges in power lines, leading to grid failures such as the one that blacked out the whole of Quebec in 1989.

The 11-year cycle of solar activity is quite variable and the present one is running late, with the next maximum expected in 2013.

The peak was not expected to be very strong but that should not cause complacency, said Tom Bogdan, director of the US Space Weather Prediction Center.

The most intense solar storm on record, which ruined much of the world%u2019s newly installed telegraph network in 1859, took place during an otherwise weak cycle. An 1859-type storm today could knock out the world%u2019s information, communications and electricity distribution systems, at a cost estimated by the US government at $2,000bn.

In terms of terrestrial vulnerability, the biggest change since the 2000 peak is that the world has become more dependent on global positioning system satellites %u2013 and not just for navigation. The world%u2019s mobile phone networks depend on ultra-precise GPS time signals for their co-ordination.

Definition of "abiogenesis" (noun)

1. the now discredited theory that living organisms can arise spontaneously from inanimate matter; spontaneous generation.

"...the hypothetical process by which living organisms develop from nonliving matter; also, the archaic theory that utilizes this process to explain the origin of life. Pieces of cheese and bread wrapped in rags and left in a dark corner, for example, were thus thought to produce mice, according to this theory, because after several weeks, there were mice in the rags. Many believed in spontaneous generation because it explained such occurrences as the appearance of maggots on decaying meat..."

Well, that's what the observations told them...
Quoting scott39:
Ive eaten Chocolate covered crickets before. They were pretty tasty. The developing countries are the ones that will suffer even more. It takes 7 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of meat and about 3 pounds to make eggs and milk. I wonder how long it would take to deplete our supply of insects? It would take alot of insects for this big boy to eat! LOL

I've traveled quite a bit in South America along with a little in Africa, and have eaten lots of insects: dried, fried, roasted, stewed, ground, powdered, sweetened, hot and spicy, pureed into soup, whatever. Yes, it sounds disgusting at first, but to an outsider, it's really no more disgusting than slaughtering a large animal, grinding its muscle fibers to an even consistency, shaping them into patties, grilling them, and eating them between two slices of bread. ;-) It's all relative...
Quoting twincomanche:
There you go. This has not been peer reviewed and comes from a newspaper so therefore is of no relevance of course.

Scientists warn of $2,000bn solar ‘Katrina’

By Clive Cookson in Washington

Published: February 20 2011 17:50 | Last updated: February 20 2011 17:50

The sun is waking up from a long quiet spell. Last week it sent out the strongest flare for four years – and scientists are warning that earth should prepare for an intense electromagnetic storm that, in the worst case, could be a “global Katrina” costing the world economy $2,000bn.

Senior officials responsible for policy on solar storms – also known as space weather – in the US, UK and Sweden urged more preparedness at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington.
EDITOR’S CHOICE
Scientists project humans into avatars - Feb-17
Listen to the FT Science podcast - Jun-03
Sun throws new light on global warming - Oct-07
A disastrous truth - Jan-21
Governments warned on cyber crime - Jan-17
Jamming of GPS signals threatens vital services - Feb-23

“We have to take the issue of space weather seriously,” said Sir John Beddington, UK chief scientist. “The sun is coming out of a quiet period, and our vulnerability has increased since the last solar maximum [around 2000].”

“Predict and prepare should be the watchwords,” agreed Jane Lubchenco, head of the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. “So much more of our technology is vulnerable than it was 10 years ago.”

A solar storm starts with an eruption of super-hot gas travelling out from the sun at speeds of up to 5m miles an hour. Electrically charged particles hit earth’s atmosphere 20 to 30 hours later, causing electromagnetic havoc.

Last week’s solar storm may have been the biggest since 2007, but it was relatively small in historical terms.

It caused some radio communications problems and minor disruption of civil aviation as airlines routed flights away from the polar regions, said Dr Lubchenco.

A more extreme storm can shut down communications satellites for many hours – or even cause permanent damage to their components. On the ground, the intense magnetic fluctuations can induce surges in power lines, leading to grid failures such as the one that blacked out the whole of Quebec in 1989.

The 11-year cycle of solar activity is quite variable and the present one is running late, with the next maximum expected in 2013.

The peak was not expected to be very strong but that should not cause complacency, said Tom Bogdan, director of the US Space Weather Prediction Center.

The most intense solar storm on record, which ruined much of the world’s newly installed telegraph network in 1859, took place during an otherwise weak cycle. An 1859-type storm today could knock out the world’s information, communications and electricity distribution systems, at a cost estimated by the US government at $2,000bn.

In terms of terrestrial vulnerability, the biggest change since the 2000 peak is that the world has become more dependent on global positioning system satellites – and not just for navigation. The world’s mobile phone networks depend on ultra-precise GPS time signals for their co-ordination.

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Ok, So how do we better prepare for such an event?
Sensationalism of a Solar Flare.

Fascinating.



www.solarcycle24.com

Solar Update - Huge Sunspot 1158 which produced Cycle 24's first X-Class Flare is rotating onto the western limb and will soon be out of direct earth view.

Sunspots 1161 + 1162 persist in the northern hemisphere and there is a chance for M-Class flares.

Sunspot 1161 +1162 (Saturday)



Prepared jointly by the U.S. Dept. of Commerce, NOAA,
Space Weather Prediction Center and the U.S. Air Force.
Updated 2011 Feb 20 2200 UTC

Joint USAF/NOAA Report of Solar and Geophysical Activity
SDF Number 051 Issued at 2200Z on 20 Feb 2011

IA. Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 19/2100Z
to 20/2100Z: Solar activity was low during the past 24 hours.
Region 1161 (N11W28) grew slightly in areal coverage and maintained
a beta-gamma magnetic classification. Region 1162 (N18W32) remained
stable throughout the period. Both regions produced C-class
activity and Region 1161 produced a long duration B6 event at
20/1837Z.

IB. Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be low
to moderate for the next three days (21-23 February). Regions 1161
and 1162 are both capable of producing M-class activity.

IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 19/2100Z to 20/2100Z:
The geomagnetic field was mostly quiet during the past 24 hours. The
greater than 2 MeV electron flux at geosynchronous orbit reached
high levels during the period.

IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be mostly quiet for the next three days (21-23
February).

III. Event Probabilities 21 Feb-23 Feb
Class M 60/60/50
Class X 05/05/05
Proton 05/05/05
PCAF Green




Energy from the Sun Has Not Increased


The amount of solar energy received at the top of our atmosphere has followed its natural 11-year cycle of small ups and downs, but with no net increase. Over the same period, global temperature has risen markedly. This indicates that it is extremely unlikely that solar influence has been a significant driver of global temperature change over several decades.



Global surface temperature (top, blue) and the Sun's energy received at the top of Earth's atmosphere (red, bottom). Solar energy has been measured by satellites since 1978.
Quoting scott39:
How is the Earth going to feed 8 Billion people by 2050?
we start eating each other
Hello all, hope all had a great weekend. Been beautiful here in Ms. The Daytona 500 was great, although my guys didn't win....and LONG LIVE the "Classic View".......:}
Quoting Neapolitan:

I've traveled quite a bit in South America along with a little in Africa, and have eaten lots of insects: dried, fried, roasted, stewed, ground, powdered, sweetened, hot and spicy, pureed into soup, whatever. Yes, it sounds disgusting at first, but to an outsider, it's really no more disgusting than slaughtering a large animal, grinding its muscle fibers to an even consistency, shaping them into patties, grilling them, and eating them between two slices of bread. ;-) It's all relative...
Some of those flavors sound good. I never see much of the media, reporting on a food crisis in this worlds very near future. I read that we will have to produce more food in the next 40 years than what was produced in the last 8000! I think this is the USA is the greatest country in the world, but lets face it, our economy is built on waste and that includes food. Our Country is on top of the food chain and I dont know what will change that mindset,to help in the future?
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
we start eating each other
Go for the Hams first--They are the best!!
Quoting scott39:
Ok, So how do we better prepare for such an event?


That's the point. We probably don't need to prepare. We already are prepared. These will most likely be non events.
Quoting scott39:
Some of those flavors sound good. I never see much of the media, reporting on a food crisis in this worlds very near future. I read that we will have to produce more food in the next 40 years than what was produced in the last 8000! I think this is the USA is the greatest country in the world, but lets face it, our economy is built on waste and that includes food. Our Country is on top of the food chain and I dont know what will change that mindset,to help in the future?

I think when a McDonald's hamburger costs what a pound of Kobe beef costs now, minds may be changed. You think people are complaining about Taco Bell using filler now? Wait until there's not a speck of beef in anything that costs less than $100 a serving.
Quoting scott39:
Ok, So how do we better prepare for such an event?


If something like this were to happen there would be no way to prepare. Lots of zombie satellites would be in orbit and most methods of communication would be out. I generally take the route of not paying attention to unlikely events such as these, where there is no way to actually prepare.


Quoting scott39:
How is the Earth going to feed 8 Billion people by 2050?


My question to you is how is Earth going to feed 6 billion people by 2020? Most people don't realize that our food situation is approaching a critical point much quicker than previously predicted. I was attempting to fund-raise money to build aeroponic greenhouses for high efficiency food production (and flood / drought resistance), although I've come to realize that 90%+ of individuals are completely useless and would rather watch tv or get drunk than secure our food sources. Guess they will just have to starve like the rest of the undeveloped world.
God bless the man who got his own. Signed Blood Sweat and Tears.No plagiarism intended.
Argument on evolution? really? If you even have a basic understanding of reproduction and gene mutation, common sense will tell you that evolution is not only a fact, but happens everyday..... I'll go even further and say that it is impossible for evolution to not occur given how our genetics work (our = the animal kingdom, not so much humans).
Why did you change from cochise111 to cochise000?

Quoting Cochise000:
I've read several times on this blog how harmful increasing SSTs were to coral reefs. Some beg to differ.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2011/ 02/18/coral-reefs-expand-as-the-oceans-warm/
Quoting Neapolitan:

I think when a McDonald's hamburger costs what a pound of Kobe beef costs now, minds may be changed. You think people are complaining about Taco Bell using filler now? Wait until there's not a speck of beef in anything that costs less than $100 a serving.
Now that would really suck!! I love my McDouble for a buck! See Im part of the problem too. LOL
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
I like grits, bacon and eggs for breakfast.

Yep
When In the USMC Chow line,,I remember getting nervous as the Line got closer to the Steaks,,and then Suddenly they ran out and some got Fried Veal Patties instead.


Such sadness from tough guys was always Phun to observe...,

As I chomped on the last Ribeye across from the Guy who got the first Fried Veal Slider.


Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp..





Hey Dude, no cutting in !
594. BtnTx
Wow, some people actually eat at McDonalds!
Quoting BtnTx:
Wow, some people actually eat at McDonalds!


Millions every day. Get a grip.
Quoting alfabob:


If something like this were to happen there would be no way to prepare. Lots of zombie satellites would be in orbit and most methods of communication would be out. I generally take the route of not paying attention to unlikely events such as these, where there is no way to actually prepare.




My question to you is how is Earth going to feed 6 billion people by 2020? Most people don't realize that our food situation is approaching a critical point much quicker than previously predicted. I was attempting to fund-raise money to build aeroponic greenhouses for high efficiency food production (and flood / drought resistance), although I've come to realize that 90%+ of individuals are completely useless and would rather watch tv or get drunk than secure our food sources. Guess they will just have to starve like the rest of the undeveloped world.

IQALUIT — Nunavut's MP and officials from the Northwest Company went into damage control mode Tuesday after photos of expensive food at a Northern Store in Arctic Bay caused outrage in the North and awe in the South.


Among the items pictured were a $13 bag of spaghetti, a $29 jar of Cheez Whiz, a $77 bag of breaded chicken and a $38 bottle of cranberry juice.


David Anderson, the manager of major market stores for the Northwest Co., told a meeting of Baffin mayors in Iqaluit that prices on those items went up when the supply shipped last summer by sealift ran out.



Read it on Global News: Arctic communities choking on sky-high food prices
Why should God work in a logical way. That would be defiant to all those that need to justify to the rest, the sins of man. Remember man has a free will.Does that imply his ability to renounce the will of God, I think not. God doesn't play dice with the universe.
598. BtnTx
Quoting twincomanche:


Millions every day. Get a grip.
And millions are starving: Get a Grip
Yes…God is illogical….That makes sense. A human trait.
Keeper, I'm waiting on a model....what's coming down?
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

IQALUIT — Nunavut's MP and officials from the Northwest Company went into damage control mode Tuesday after photos of expensive food at a Northern Store in Arctic Bay caused outrage in the North and awe in the South.


Among the items pictured were a $13 bag of spaghetti, a $29 jar of Cheez Whiz, a $77 bag of breaded chicken and a $38 bottle of cranberry juice.


David Anderson, the manager of major market stores for the Northwest Co., told a meeting of Baffin mayors in Iqaluit that prices on those items went up when the supply shipped last summer by sealift ran out.



Read it on Global News: Arctic communities choking on sky-high food prices


Supply and demand should fix this problem by people rushing food in while any premium exists. This isn't a case of food not being available because of any real shortage. This one is a supply chain situation.
Quoting BtnTx:
And millions are starving: Get a Grip


Duh. Go back and read your post. It makes no reference to starving people.
606. BtnTx
Quoting twincomanche:


Duh. Go back and read your post. It makes no reference to starving people.
You are right. Nevermind. Not having a good night. I stand corrected.
Link Confirmed Between Warming and Heavy Storms
By Stephen Leahy

UXBRIDGE, Canada, Feb 16, 2011 (IPS) - Human-induced heating of the planet has already made rainfall more intense, leading to more severe floods, researchers announced Wednesday.

Two new studies document significant impacts with just a fraction of the heating yet to come from the burning of fossil fuels. Fortunately, another new report shows the world can end its addiction to climate-wrecking fossil-fuel energy by 2050.

"Warmer air contains more moisture and leads to more extreme precipitation," said Francis Zwiers of the University of Victoria.

Extreme precipitation and flooding over the entire northern hemisphere increased by seven percent between 1951 and 1999 as a result of anthropogenic global warming. That represents a "substantial change", Zwiers told IPS, and more than twice the increase projected by climate modeling.

Zwiers and Xuebin Zhang of Environment Canada used observations from over 6,000 weather stations to measure the impact of climate warming on the intensity of extreme precipitation for the first time. The study was published Wednesday in the journal Nature.

The planet is currently 0.8 degrees C hotter from the burning of fossil fuels. However, global temperatures had not yet started to increase in 1951, the first year of rainfall data Zwiers and Xuebin examined. By 1999, global temperatures had climbed by about 0.6 degrees C. The average temperature increase over that 50-year period is relatively small compared to the present but major impacts have been documented in terms of storm and flood damage even with this small increase in temperatures.

This suggests that the Earth's climatic system may be more sensitive to small temperature increases than previously believed.

The global costs of extreme weather events shot up from less than five billion dollars a year during the 1950s to 45 billion dollars a year during the 1990s, according to Munich Re, a major reinsurance company in Germany. Not all of this increase is due to climate change. Some is due to population and infrastructure growth and better disaster reporting. However, the number of significant floods has tripled in the past 30 years.

Those costs came during a time when the planet was cooler than present - a period of "relatively weak anthropogenic forcing", Zwiers said. But as temperatures climbed, there was a sharp increase in intense rainfall events during the 1990s, suggesting an acceleration in flooding and damaging rainfall. Zwiers said it is too soon to know if the 1990s increase represents a new trend.

Global temperatures are guaranteed to increase further from today's 0.8 degrees C to at least 1.0 degree C by 2020. This will boost the amount of water vapour and heat in the atmosphere, which are the fuel for even more and harder rainfall events.

Scientists have long known extreme events would increase with a hotter planet but have maintained that a single flood or storm could not be explicitly linked to climate change. Now another study published Wednesday in Nature lays odds they've found the "smoking gun" behind Britain's severe flooding in 2000.

During the fall of 2000, the UK experienced some of its most damaging floods and wettest weather since the first records began in 1766. Using the distributed computing power from thousands of personal computers around the world, researchers at Oxford University and others determined that human emissions of greenhouse gases had more than doubled the odds of the devastating 2000 flood.

"We simulated a parallel world in which there were no greenhouse gas emissions," said lead researcher Pardeep Pall of Oxford University.

Thousand of computer simulations were tested against reality and the results revealed that climate change more than doubled the odds of the 2000 flooding, Pall said at a press conference.

"This study was 20 times more demanding than anything we're tried before. It is not easy to precisely say what caused what when it comes to a single weather event," added Myles Allen of Oxford University.

The UK Met Office is developing new methods for assessing extreme weather events and determining the factors that caused them in hopes of improving predictions. In future, the Met Office may be able to predict such events and explain why they happened, said Allen.

With human-induced heating of the planet expected by many to reach at least 2.4 degrees C in the coming decades, extreme events of the recent past will seem very tame indeed. However, this calamitous future can be avoided with a rapid transition to a renewable global energy system.

A detailed new study demonstrates that 95 percent of global energy needs can be meet with renewables utilising today's technologies alone.

The Energy Report by Ecofys, a leading energy consulting firm in the Netherlands, is the first to show that 95 percent of all energy can be renewable by 2050, while offering comfortable lifestyles for a growing global population and allowing a tripling of the global economy.

"We can do this by using and improving the technologies that are already at hand," said Manon Janssen, CEO of Ecofys. "It is a business opportunity, as much as it is a technological challenge."

Ecofys spent two years preparing the report in partnership with the World Wildlife Fund.

Paramount will be major increases in energy efficiency in all sectors so that by 2050 energy use is 15 percent less than the energy use in 2005. And this is all possible with existing technology, the report noted. Emissions from burning fossil fuels for energy will fall more than 80 percent by 2050, offering a real chance of keeping global temperatures below 2 degrees C, the report said.

While the transition will be costly, the savings from lower energy use will amount to a five- to six-trillion-dollar "windfall" for humanity by 2050.

The move to renewable energy is already well underway in places like California, where the cost of generating solar energy is now as cheap as fossil fuels, said Justin Gerdes, a California journalist specialising in energy issues.

"Renewables already benefit from lower upfront costs to install - especially onshore wind - compared to huge one- gigawatt fossil fuel or nuclear plants," Gerdes said. "And, then, of course, the renewables have no cost for fuel."

And this is happening in the U.S., where climate change is a non-issue politically and there is no price or cap on carbon emissions.

"In short, this can happen," Gerdes said.

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Quoting BtnTx:
Wow, some people actually eat at McDonalds!
I only eat the fries, I swear. And I do the drive-through with my car turned off....

Thanks 4 the McCartney tune, Pat... really hit the spot...