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Hurricane Isaac hits Louisiana, driving dangerous storm surges

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:27 AM GMT on August 29, 2012

Hurricane Isaac is ashore over Southeast Louisiana, having officially crossed the coast on the Mississippi Delta 90 miles southeast of New Orleans at 7:45 am EDT on August 28. Isaac intensified right up until landfall, striking with 80 mph winds and a central pressure of 970 mb. The storm's large size and large 50 - 60 mile diameter eye kept the intensification rate slow today, but it came quite close to becoming a significantly more dangerous storm. That's because at landfall, Isaac was in the midst of establishing a small inner eyewall within its large 50-mile diameter eye, a very rare feat I've never seen before. Usually, when an eye first forms, it gradually contracts, eventually becoming so small that it becomes unstable. An outer concentric eyewall then forms around the small inner eyewall, eventually becoming the only eyewall when the inner eyewall collapses. But Isaac is a very unusual storm that has continually surprised us, and this inside-out concentric eyewall formation fits the storm's unusual character. The storm isn't in a hurry to move fully inland, and has slowed down to a crawl this evening. This will give the storm the opportunity to keep its center mostly over water a few more hours, and maintain hurricane strength into the early morning on Wednesday.


Figure 1. Radar reflectivity image from New Orleans as Isaac made landfall at 6 pm CDT August 28, 2012.

A dangerous storm surge event underway
Isaac is bringing large and dangerous storm surge to the coast from Central Louisiana to the Panhandle of Florida. At 10 pm EDT, here were some of the storm surge values being recorded at NOAA tide gauges:

6.2' Waveland, MS
9.9' Shell Beach, LA
3.0' Pensacola, FL
4.4' Pascagoula, MS
3.4' Mobile, AL

The 9.9' storm surge at Shell Beach, which is in Lake Borgne 20 miles southeast of New Orleans, exceeds the 9.5' surge recorded there during Category 2 Hurricane Gustav of 2008. Research scientists running a Doppler on Wheels radar located on top of the 16' levees in Plaquemines Parish near Port Sulphur, LA, reported at 8:30 pm EDT that a storm surge of 14' moved up the Mississippi River, and was just 2' below the levees. Waves on top of the surge were cresting over the west side of the levee. Needless to say, they were very nervous. Over the past hour, the surge has retreated some, and waves were no longer lapping over the top of the levee. This is probably due to the fact that we're headed towards low tide. A storm surge of 9.5' has moved up the Mississippi River to the Carrrollton gauge in New Orleans. This is not a concern for the levees in New Orleans, since the storm surge has now brought the river up to 2.5' above its normal water level, which was 7' low due to the 2012 U.S. drought. The highest rise of the water above ground level will occur Wednesday morning over much of Southeast Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and the western Florida Panhandle, when the tide comes back in. It is clear now that this storm surge event will be as dangerous as that of Category 2 Hurricane Gustav of 2008. One piece of good news: NWS New Orleans successfully launched their 00Z balloon. However, their discussion noted the atmosphere is "saturated or nearly saturated" all the way up to 470mb, or 20,000 feet. Precipitable water was 2.76 inches, which will be ripe for extremely heavy rainfall.


Figure 2. Tide gauge data from Shell Beach, located on the south shore of Lake Borgne, just east of New Orleans. The green line shows the storm surge. The red line is the storm tide, the height of the water above Mean Sea Level (MSL.)

Portlight disaster relief charity responds to Issac
The Portlight.org disaster relief charity, founded and staffed by members of the wunderground community, have mobilized resources in advance of the arrival of Hurricane Isaac. Their crew, including 2 EMTs, is at the Biloxi Special Needs Shelter, and will be caring for shelter dwellers and doing rescues of people who call for help. Another team will be surveying all the shelters in the area to ensure that they are accessible to all people. You can donate to Portlight's disaster relief fund here.

I'll have more in the morning. Hunker down, New Orleans. It's going to be a long night.

Jeff Masters

Hurricane

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Reader Comments

For our Houstonians...

Ananometer at 68' (on a sailboat mast) in Seabrook. Winds consistent 18kt from 340 with gusts to 25kts. Water dropping in the bay. Oh, and HOT.
Quoting Charmeck:


You want compassion - where is the compassion for the people that have to go out and rescue them?? My heart and prayers go out to everyone - victims and rescue personnel but when evacuations are ordered there is a reason and usually there are evacuation centers that you can go to.


Nobody and I mean nobody has more compassion and respect for first responders than I do, I was making a point that some people do not have the resources to evacuate every storm. I don't presume to judge. Evacuation centers are not always a solution. Circumstances are different for everyone. Could be health, maybe you can't leave a relative, whatever. Its not always a black and white issue.
Quoting oracle28:


Dont forget the phrases

DOOM
shower curtain
pinhole eye
bottom-out
fish storm


You left out:

foot fetish
goddess
"Good Sir"

2004. MTWX
Quoting jpsb:
From experience, been thru many TCs. If the storm is bad you will NOT be allowed back. All your stuff is sitting unprotected in an area WITHOUT effective law enforcement. How would you like you leave all your stuff sitting around unprotected and not be allowed back for many days after the storm? Not me, I stay.


Stuff can be replaced... your lives cannot!!
2005. Asta
The water came up very quickly this time..
Interview with BIlly Nunguesser here.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/08/29/16 0233986/plaquemine-parish-president-damage-is-just -as-bad-as-katrina

The water is coming up on Three Rivers Road in Mandeville as well photos here
http://www.wwltv.com/

We have at least another day of rain and storm surge..
Loks like Isaac is another "Ms. Mousey" storm.. just sits and spins...
Not good. not good at all.
I'm worried about those in St. Charles Parish right now...
2006. keisa90
For what it's worth, the new NAM now brings what's left of Isaac all the way to SE Texas before turning it northward.
Quoting JasonRE:
Is this thing moving West at all like some of the models suggested? Our local Mets are saying that it's still uncertain if it will run up LA as it shows. Also, still haven't seen much rain. What's up with that? Could the nasty stuff start tonight and go into tomorrow?

Jason...dry air has been feeding in from the west so we aren't getting the rainbands we normally do. Gustier winds and the rain will be picking up later this afternoon and will linger into tomorrow. It is moving sloooowly :(
Quoting Charmeck:


You want compassion - where is the compassion for the people that have to go out and rescue them?? My heart and prayers go out to everyone - victims and rescue personnel but when evacuations are ordered there is a reason and usually there are evacuation centers that you can go to.


I too have compassion for both victims and rescuers, but have no doubts, most of the rescuers live for their jobs and would rather be doing nothing else. They love what they're doing.
Quoting AtHomeInTX:


Lol. I talk out loud to the blog sometimes. My husband just shakes his head. What's really bad is that now HE knows about people on the blog. :)
lol! I so relate...my poor coworkers must think of WU like a soap opera. I've actually been waiting for one of my friends to get to work so I can show her the pic of Nola Roux & her puppies lol
Can anyone give me a general idea of the status in NOLA? Specifically the areas of Algiers Point, the area near the Maple Leaf Bar (Uptown/Carrolton) and St Charles Ave around the 1700 block?

2011. LargoFl
Quoting keisa90:
For what it's worth, the new NAM now brings what's left of Isaac all the way to SE Texas before turning it northward.
i think i remember some folks in texas who were wishing for isaac's rains..maybe they will get it now if that happens
2012. IMA
Quoting BeanTech:


You left out:

foot fetish
goddess
"Good Sir"


hot towers
pin-hole eye
lol It goes on & on
2013. Asta
Quoting MoldyinMS:


Nobody and I mean nobody has more compassion and respect for first responders than I do, I was making a point that some people do not have the resources to evacuate every storm. I don't presume to judge. Evacuation centers are not always a solution. Circumstances are different for everyone. Could be health, maybe you can't leave a relative, whatever. Its not always a black and white issue.


True. The elderly are the hardest to get to leave as they have weathered many storms before.. but it is a different ball game now with the tremendous loss of the wetlands.. there is less of a buffer now. the storms behave differently than what they did when these people were younger.. also they don't want to leave what they know for somethings that they don't know and that won't take their beloved companion pets with them. Someone could make some serious income by creating seasonal storm shelter hotels north of the cane lines.. that take pets..
2015. JasonRE
Quoting hurricanehanna:

Jason...dry air has been feeding in from the west so we aren't getting the rainbands we normally do. Gustier winds and the rain will be picking up later this afternoon and will linger into tomorrow. It is moving sloooowly :(


Yeah, just wondering. Thanks for the info. Even though we'll be on the West side, it still seems like we would get quite a bit of rain. I see someone posted this could possibly run the coast to SE TX and then North? That would dump on us big time....
Thoughts and prayers are going out to those being affected by Isaac. Needs to hurry on through.

Back to lurking.
Quoting keisa90:
For what it's worth, the new NAM now brings what's left of Isaac all the way to SE Texas before turning it northward.


Yes some models have been showing that. But no one seems to think that will happen. NWS said SETX would be on the western fringe of the storm. Gusty winds maybe 1-2 inches of rain.
Quoting LargoFl:
i think i remember some folks in texas who were wishing for isaac's rains..maybe they will get it now if that happens


It would be nice. Unfortunately that model is not good with tropical storms so I give it a 5% chance of actually happening.
Quoting IMA:

hot towers
pin-hole eye
lol It goes on & on


and lets not forget the ants!
2020. kwgirl
Quoting FrancesJeanne:
lol! I so relate...my poor coworkers must think of WU like a soap opera. I've actually been waiting for one of my friends to get to work so I can show her the pic of Nola Roux & her puppies lol
Can someone direct me to the post of the pics. I would love to see it and can't bear searching each page. Just a general post number would be good.
2021. drs2008
Quoting MTWX:


Stuff can be replaced... your lives cannot!!
This is one of the reasons we have a curfew in Biloxi.
Quoting FrancesJeanne:
lol! I so relate...my poor coworkers must think of WU like a soap opera. I've actually been waiting for one of my friends to get to work so I can show her the pic of Nola Roux & her puppies lol
There's a picture of puppies?!
since Isaac is moving so slowly, will that tropical wave between Cuba and the Yucatan interact with Isaac?
2024. Asta
Quoting Giga2001:
Can anyone give me a general idea of the status in NOLA? Specifically the areas of Algiers Point, the area near the Maple Leaf Bar (Uptown/Carrolton) and St Charles Ave around the 1700 block?



wdsu.com
wwltv.com
nola.com
abc26.com

Entergy Outtage map
http://viewoutage.entergy.com/nola.aspx

cleco outtage map for northshore
http://www.cleco.com/site413.php
Quoting Badmonkey82009:
After years of lurking, I finally realized how it is you know that you've been lurking on the blog a little too long in one sitting.

1. You wore out your F5 key.
2. You understand Taz on first reading.
3. The Tampa shield doesn't sound like a minor league sports team's name.
4. You read Aussie's posts with an accent.
5. You know (and care) that Pat's dog had puppies.
6. You can define a westcaster, floridacaster, upcaster and downcaster... with examples.
7. You know that, when it comes to hurricanes, sometimes science is an art.
8. You randomly crave Fresca.
9. Jim Cantore causes you physical pain when he is on TV.
10. You root for a thunderstorm of the CV islands to become a hurricane then you try to steer into open ocean it by sheer force of will.
11. You.stop.noticing.dots.between.words.
12. You find yourself genuinely hoping that people you've never met get through the storm safely.

Thanks to everyone who posts the "good stuff". To everyone affected.. be safe, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Returning to lurking.


Nice one... but you read my posts with an accent??? I'm half Scottish though. Will you now read my posts with a Scottish accent.
Quoting JasonRE:


Yeah, just wondering. Thanks for the info. Even though we'll be on the West side, it still seems like we would get quite a bit of rain. I see someone posted this could possibly run the coast to SE TX and then North? That would dump on us big time....

yep, lots of rain. The groud and trees are saturated already. Big concern is branches or trees falling causing power outages.
Coming in from mandeville, 3.20 inches of rain.

Gusts around hurricane force.

Only getting worse folks

No power till at least sept 2nd.
Quoting AussieStorm:


Nice one... but you read my posts with an accent??? I'm half Scottish though. Will you now read my posts with a Scottish accent.

Aussiecold.
Quoting Badmonkey82009:
After years of lurking, I finally realized how it is you know that you've been lurking on the blog a little too long in one sitting.

1. You wore out your F5 key.
2. You understand Taz on first reading.
3. The Tampa shield doesn't sound like a minor league sports team's name.
4. You read Aussie's posts with an accent.
5. You know (and care) that Pat's dog had puppies.
6. You can define a westcaster, floridacaster, upcaster and downcaster... with examples.
7. You know that, when it comes to hurricanes, sometimes science is an art.
8. You randomly crave Fresca.
9. Jim Cantore causes you physical pain when he is on TV.
10. You root for a thunderstorm of the CV islands to become a hurricane then you try to steer into open ocean it by sheer force of will.
11. You.stop.noticing.dots.between.words.
12. You find yourself genuinely hoping that people you've never met get through the storm safely.

Thanks to everyone who posts the "good stuff". To everyone affected.. be safe, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Returning to lurking.


LOl....and I find myself shaking my head in agreement to all 12 as I read it.
Quoting Asta:


wdsu.com
wwltv.com
nola.com
abc26.com

Entergy Outtage map
http://viewoutage.entergy.com/nola.aspx

cleco outtage map for northshore
http://www.cleco.com/site413.php


Of course - i should have thought of most of that. Sheesh, i'm just not thinking quite straight this morning.

Thank you so much.
2033. new2you
I have a sister who lives Lakeview, LA and one of her neighbors sent her a pic of roof tiles blowing off her roof. Glad they got out of there.
2034. kwgirl
Quoting Asta:


True. The elderly are the hardest to get to leave as they have weathered many storms before.. but it is a different ball game now with the tremendous loss of the wetlands.. there is less of a buffer now. the storms behave differently than what they did when these people were younger.. also they don't want to leave what they know for somethings that they don't know and that won't take their beloved companion pets with them. Someone could make some serious income by creating seasonal storm shelter hotels north of the cane lines.. that take pets..
Here in the Keys the shelters have started taking pets. No one will leave their pet (child) in a storm, so to encourage people to leave they allow the pets. This should be standard. Of course, the shelters were searching people and would not allow tobacco, so a lot of people turned themselves away when that happened. It's a balancing act. Most people I know won't go to shelter because they don't allow beer!
2035. Relix
any takes on 98L? Have an event here in PR on Sunday and want to see if that recurve seems more likely than not.
Quoting AussieStorm:


Nice one... but you read my posts with an accent??? I'm half Scottish though. Will you now read my posts with a Scottish accent.

oh really Aussie because I'm also part Scottish myself
Quoting AussieStorm:


Nice one... but you read my posts with an accent??? I'm half Scottish though. Will you now read my posts with a Scottish accent.


It's one in the same

I read it with an accent to:)
Just got off the phone with my dad, and he's around the 1800 block of S. Carrolton. They had power up until 6am. Lots of rain & wind, with roof shingles and debris all over the street. There are power lines down, in the streets. But no flooding...

Quoting Giga2001:
Can anyone give me a general idea of the status in NOLA? Specifically the areas of Algiers Point, the area near the Maple Leaf Bar (Uptown/Carrolton) and St Charles Ave around the 1700 block?

Shingles are being peeled off our roof now. Scattering across the yard....
2040. drs2008
Quoting Badmonkey82009:
After years of lurking, I finally realized how it is you know that you've been lurking on the blog a little too long in one sitting.

1. You wore out your F5 key.
2. You understand Taz on first reading.
3. The Tampa shield doesn't sound like a minor league sports team's name.
4. You read Aussie's posts with an accent.
5. You know (and care) that Pat's dog had puppies.
6. You can define a westcaster, floridacaster, upcaster and downcaster... with examples.
7. You know that, when it comes to hurricanes, sometimes science is an art.
8. You randomly crave Fresca.
9. Jim Cantore causes you physical pain when he is on TV.
10. You root for a thunderstorm of the CV islands to become a hurricane then you try to steer into open ocean it by sheer force of will.
11. You.stop.noticing.dots.between.words.
12. You find yourself genuinely hoping that people you've never met get through the storm safely.

Thanks to everyone who posts the "good stuff". To everyone affected.. be safe, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Returning to lurking.
Best blog of the day !!
Quoting IMA:

hot towers
pin-hole eye
lol It goes on & on

Night shift.
dry air.
steering maps.
TCHP maps.


moving but ever so slow
2043. kwgirl
Quoting AussieStorm:


Nice one... but you read my posts with an accent??? I'm half Scottish though. Will you now read my posts with a Scottish accent.
I will. Are you a Glaswegian or from Edinburgh? They have different accents.
Quoting Asta:


wdsu.com
wwltv.com
nola.com
abc26.com

Entergy Outtage map
http://viewoutage.entergy.com/nola.aspx

cleco outtage map for northshore
http://www.cleco.com/site413.php
Link
2045. snotly
TUNNELS!

Quoting IMA:

hot towers
pin-hole eye
lol It goes on & on
Quoting kwgirl:
Can someone direct me to the post of the pics. I would love to see it and can't bear searching each page. Just a general post number would be good.
Post 233
Driving today and hearing lots of good Isaac coverage on National Public Radio.
The 42 karat Levees around NOLA worked as intended last I heard. And more heroic community rescues in the bayous.
Meanwhile, there's a nice little anti-cyclone over our new AOI approaching the mid-Atlantic.
The early runs for the models. I'd imagine though that 98L will end up going more south than that but not as far south as Isaac unless 98L really starts intensifying but who knows at this point. Main focus is Isaac.



Consensus also says hurricane strength is possible.
2049. jpsb
Quoting MTWX:


Stuff can be replaced... your lives cannot!!
I was able to save my house and business because I stayed for Ike, I got the water and the mud out of both places the next day. Folks that evacuated had to wait 3 or 4 days before they were allowed back. They all lost their homes. The go, no go call is sometimes difficult. Had I lived on Bolivar I would not have stayed for Ike. I look at the predicted surge and decide if my neighbors home can handle it. My home is only 13 feet above sea level and a one story but his is 16 above and 3 stories. He always gives me the keys before he leaves. I will admit I had my truck packed and was ready to go for Rita, but Rita just kept gaining latitude so I never had to leave. Rita was scary.
2050. ncstorm
Here in NC, if you do not evacuate in a mandatory evacuation, you get fined..personally I think if you live near a levee and a tropical system is approaching, you should go..people only saw Cat 1 and maybe they didnt understand the surge part of it that the NHC/NWS were stressing..everyone is not familiar with the weather as some of us are and only thought a low end Cat 1 and said to themselves "Im not evacuating for that"..for those who are not able to leave due to financial or health reasons and want to but cant, then something needs to be implemented to help them..right now the economy is not the greatest and people are living from paycheck to paycheck...its not as easy as some may think to pack up and pay for a hotel for two days..
Long Beach is in Mississippi.

Quoting LargoFl:
Longbeach......wish they would put what state.
That slow crawl and all of the reports coming in are/is painful to watch.........Don't forget to donate some money to Portlight or other relief organizations in the coming days if you can.
2053. angiest
Am I seeing another cyclonic loop? The last couple of radar frames appear to show a little southerly movement.
Quoting Asta:


True. The elderly are the hardest to get to leave as they have weathered many storms before.. but it is a different ball game now with the tremendous loss of the wetlands.. there is less of a buffer now. the storms behave differently than what they did when these people were younger.. also they don't want to leave what they know for somethings that they don't know and that won't take their beloved companion pets with them. Someone could make some serious income by creating seasonal storm shelter hotels north of the cane lines.. that take pets..


True, pets are a big part of it. In my experiences, relatives with alzhiemers or maybe mentally challenged in some other way that would not do well anywhere but home. So many reasons besides losing stuff. That was the point I was making. You can replace stuff, if you have the resources.
Much worse than Gustav
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

oh really Aussie because I'm also part Scottish myself

Cool.

I bet I could talk to ya'll and understand every word you say. Maybe you'd ya'll struggle to understand me though.

Anyways. I'm off to bed.

To everyone here that's being effected by Insanity Inducing Isaac. God speed. Stay safe. Stay strong.

Good night Ya'll.

P.S. Isaac, bugger off and find someone else to dump on.
Interesting photo of Kirk. He's definitely trying to organize.

2058. kwgirl
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

oh really Aussie because I'm also part Scottish myself
Ach aye. My wee bairn is Scots by birth. Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland, UK. If you went into a bar and asked about the Scottish people, you would be buying a round, its Scots.
Quoting kwgirl:
I will. Are you a Glaswegian or from Edinburgh? They have different accents.

I'm a teddy bear man. if you know what that means you'll know where my family comes from.
Quoting weatherh98:
Much worse than Gustav


I think the angle Isaac came into NOLA was probably the worst angle possible. What do you think?
Just getting on this a.m. This thing is just sitting on top of us in Terrebonne Parish. The news is focusing on New Orleans, so can anyone tell me what to expect this storm to do?
2063. kwgirl
Quoting Patrap:
Nola Roux with first two..
Beautiful Alsatian I believe?
from coming of Africa....In the end....this storm went WELL WEST, look where he is




And this is almost identical of what models were calling for on Isaac when he was out there. Expect this future storm to plow well west in the end too folks, get ready.

2065. angiest
Quoting DavidHOUTX:


I think the angle Isaac came into NOLA was probably the worst angle possible. What do you think?


At least very close to being the worst. If I am not mistaken, a track up the MS delta would have been even worse.
Quoting DavidHOUTX:


I think the angle Isaac came into NOLA was probably the worst angle possible. What do you think?
For Nola it is

For me it's one of the worst, still gonna get water coming up about 5 feet as it passes to my west
Quoting Thing342:
Interesting photo of Kirk. He's definitely trying to organize.

Is that a hole, or is Kirk's CoC actually forming an eye?
2068. 7544
list below
isaac
kirk
98L
possibly 99L off of africa now

what a active augest and the the peak is sept 10 ?
will these other system get close enough to make a run for the us landfalls still? maybe we going to see a couple of home brewed ? and has the mojo arrived yet thanks stay safe
2069. jpsb
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

oh really Aussie because I'm also part Scottish myself
I am American but 7 of my 8 grand parents are Scots. And I love Scotch Whiskey, must be in the genes.
Quoting duprk452:
Just getting on this a.m. This thing is just sitting on top of us in Terrebonne Parish. The news is focusing on New Orleans, so can anyone tell me what to expect this storm to do?


You're in the eye. You have more rain and wind coming
Quoting duprk452:
Just getting on this a.m. This thing is just sitting on top of us in Terrebonne Parish. The news is focusing on New Orleans, so can anyone tell me what to expect this storm to do?
It's going to be there for quite some time. And if you haven't gone through the eastern eyewall yet, it's going to be rough for several hours.
Quoting Giga2001:
Can anyone give me a general idea of the status in NOLA? Specifically the areas of Algiers Point, the area near the Maple Leaf Bar (Uptown/Carrolton) and St Charles Ave around the 1700 block?



Live News Coverage in NOLA

Link
2073. jpsb
Quoting Pirate999:
For our Houstonians...

Ananometer at 68' (on a sailboat mast) in Seabrook. Winds consistent 18kt from 340 with gusts to 25kts. Water dropping in the bay. Oh, and HOT.
Wind is dying down here in San Leon, was blowing 20-25 (mph) on the bay now 12-18. Guess Issac is losing steam.
Quoting dogsgomoo:
There's a picture of puppies?!
Okay, I admit it....I saved a copy of Pat's puppy picture because I wanted to show it to my SO when he got home and was afraid I wouldn't be able to find it again. Would I be breaching WU blog protocol to repost it (assuming I can figure out how)?
Quoting dogsgomoo:
There's a picture of puppies?!


This is the only one I saw, born right as the bands were really starting to pound:

link

Quoting kwgirl:
Ach aye. My wee bairn is Scots by birth. Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland, UK. If you went into a bar and asked about the Scottish people, you would be buying a round, its Scots.


I'm well familiar with Dunoon, and the general area of Holy Loch. Spent a year there as a child.
Quoting duprk452:
Just getting on this a.m. This thing is just sitting on top of us in Terrebonne Parish. The news is focusing on New Orleans, so can anyone tell me what to expect this storm to do?


Here is the last NHC Forecast Discussion from 2 hours ago

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 29/1500Z 29.6N 90.7W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND
12H 30/0000Z 30.2N 91.4W 55 KT 65 MPH...INLAND
24H 30/1200Z 31.2N 92.2W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND
36H 31/0000Z 32.8N 93.1W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
48H 31/1200Z 34.6N 93.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND
72H 01/1200Z 38.0N 92.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 02/1200Z 40.0N 89.0W 15 KT 15 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 03/1200Z 41.0N 85.0W 15 KT 15 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

Quoting Relix:
any takes on 98L? Have an event here in PR on Sunday and want to see if that recurve seems more likely than not.

hey Relix right, (I'm not wishcasting ok). I don't buy the track going NW and recure out to sea. them same models that's forecasting 98L, did Isaac and when Isaac was an Invest(94L) models were in almost the same place as they are now for 98L, well maybe just a bit N of what 98L models show, and well we sure saw what that invest 94L turned out to be, mean old Isaac. so as I said and someone else said it, we will have to wait a bit longer.

also 98L is about 1 whole degree S of where Isaac was when he was an invest
2080. dader
Quoting AussieStorm:
75 rescued in Plaquemines Parish - 25 still stranded



Goodnight for real now.


Wasn't there a mandatory evacuation order for Plaquemines. The people who stayed should be billed for rescue services.
Quoting TxGrandma:
Okay, I admit it....I saved a copy of Pat's puppy picture because I wanted to show it to my SO when he got home and was afraid I wouldn't be able to find it again. Would I be breaching WU blog protocol to repost it (assuming I can figure out how)?
Fine by me if you repost...seems like lots haven't seen it..back to lurking...
Quoting weatherh98:


It's one in the same

I read it with an accent to:)


I read everyone's posts as James Earl Jones and Morgan Freeman saying them together.

Except for Reedzone, he sounds like Gilbert Gottfried.
Quoting jpsb:
Wind is dying down here in San Leon, was blowing 20-25 (mph) on the bay now 12-18. Guess Issac is losing steam.


WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT
UNTIL 8 PM CDT THIS EVENING
Urgent - Weather Message
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
1037 AM CDT Wed Aug 29 2012

... Wind Advisory In Effect Until 8 PM CDT This Evening For
Galveston Chambers Counties...

.Increasing Winds Will Occur Today Due To The Interaction Between
High Pressure Over Western Texas And Hurricane Isaac Over
Southeastern Louisiana. Winds Will Increase This Morning To
Between 20 And 30 Mph And Possibly Gust To 35 Mph This Afternoon.
The Winds Are Expected To Gradually Diminish Tonight And Thursday.

Chambers-Galveston-
Including The Cities Of... Anahuac... Friendswood... Galveston...
League City... Mont Belvieu... Texas City... Winnie
1037 AM CDT Wed Aug 29 2012

Quoting duprk452:
Just getting on this a.m. This thing is just sitting on top of us in Terrebonne Parish. The news is focusing on New Orleans, so can anyone tell me what to expect this storm to do?

Do ya'll still have power? Stay safe!
2085. SirCane
Quoting Thing342:
Interesting photo of Kirk. He's definitely trying to organize.



Looks like a peewee compared to Isaac...
If we close out August with 12 named before peak season, unless September really turns out to be a bust, finding it difficult to see how 2012 will end up with less than 15 named storms at this rate. Not any major hurricanes yet though, rather surprising lack of those. Though to be honest, it's not often you see 11-12 named before September so it's not a huge shock that there hasn't been a major hurricane yet. 1988, 1989, 1997, 2001, 2002, and 2006 all didn't see a major hurricane until September.
2087. Grothar
2088. Relix
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

hey Relix right, (I'm not wishcasting ok). I don't buy the track going NW and recure out to sea. them same models that's forecasting 98L, did Isaac and when Isaac was an Invest(94L) models were in almost the same place as they are now for 98L, well maybe just a bit N of what 98L models show, and well we sure saw what that invest 94L turned out to be, mean old Isaac. so as I said and someone else said it, we will have to wait a bit longer.

also 98L is about 1 whole degree S of where Isaac was when he was an invest


This time I don't buy it. It*may* go N of the Islands but definitely not that curve upwards.
People on top of houses in the mandatory evac zone, I guess some people have thick heads. I constantly hear "I want to be home to protect my property" - STUPID!! Now county and city officials have to be put in harms way for rescues. How can you protect property from your rooftop? DUMB!!
2090. kwgirl
Quoting AussieStorm:

I'm a teddy bear man. if you know what that means you'll know where my family comes from.
I only got to Inverness once about 16 years ago. Beautiful as is all of Scotland.
2091. Eagle84
LOPL1 is STILL under storm-force winds and gusts at or over 80 knots. Except for the few hours spent under the COC it's been experiencing those conditions for about 36 hours straight.

Quoting TxGrandma:
Okay, I admit it....I saved a copy of Pat's puppy picture because I wanted to show it to my SO when he got home and was afraid I wouldn't be able to find it again. Would I be breaching WU blog protocol to repost it (assuming I can figure out how)?


Ha, I saved it, too. But I'm a huge dog dork.

I see a bunch of us posted links. They're all super famous now, hope it doesn't go to their heads. :D
Quoting DVSmith:


Arthur, Bertha and Fran all came ashore at Cape Fear in 1996 (I was living on Oak Island at the time).

Arthur was a TS, Bertha a Cat 1, which had stalled off SC and weakened from a Cat 2, before zipping up the eastern part of the state. Fran slammed ashore as a strong Cat 3 and was still a decent Cat 2 when it went through Durham.

Bonnie, in 1998, made landfall at Cape Fear as a Cat 3 and barely moved, dropping down to a TS, before curving back out to sea as a weak Cat 1 (having strengthened over the sounds).


Georges in '98 stalled over us for 3 days, slowly blowing himself out. Came into Pascagoula/Biloxi area and stalled on the beaches, putting Mobile on the dirty side, and slowly drifted eastward right across us. We had hurricane-force winds in Mobile for quite a long time.
2095. angiest
Quoting RitaEvac:


WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT
UNTIL 8 PM CDT THIS EVENING
Urgent - Weather Message
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
1037 AM CDT Wed Aug 29 2012

... Wind Advisory In Effect Until 8 PM CDT This Evening For
Galveston Chambers Counties...

.Increasing Winds Will Occur Today Due To The Interaction Between
High Pressure Over Western Texas And Hurricane Isaac Over
Southeastern Louisiana. Winds Will Increase This Morning To
Between 20 And 30 Mph And Possibly Gust To 35 Mph This Afternoon.
The Winds Are Expected To Gradually Diminish Tonight And Thursday.

Chambers-Galveston-
Including The Cities Of... Anahuac... Friendswood... Galveston...
League City... Mont Belvieu... Texas City... Winnie
1037 AM CDT Wed Aug 29 2012



It was even a bit breezy in Katy when we left home this morning.
Compare that radar loop to the one Jeff left up top. Hasn't moved much in the last 17hrs...

Houma in the eye..
Quoting RitaEvac:
from coming of Africa....In the end....this storm went WELL WEST, look where he is




And this is almost identical of what models were calling for on Isaac when he was out there. Expect this future storm to plow well west in the end too folks, get ready.



hmm we think alike


Quoting HopquickSteve:
Is that a hole, or is Kirk's CoC actually forming an eye?


could be and could be a dry spot these storms this year tend to have that

Quoting 7544:
list below
isaac
kirk
98L
possibly 99L off of africa now

what a active augest and the the peak is sept 10 ?
will these other system get close enough to make a run for the us landfalls still? maybe we going to see a couple of home brewed ? and has the mojo arrived yet thanks stay safe


so far I think we are just at the tip of the iecberg here
Quoting Gatorxgrrrl:
People on top of houses in the mandatory evac zone, I guess some people have thick heads. I constantly hear "I want to be home to protect my property" - STUPID!! Now county and city officials have to be put in harms way for rescues. How can you protect property from your rooftop? DUMB!!

They ignored warnings the first time, and did it again now. SMH.
2099. jpsb
Quoting RitaEvac:


WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT
UNTIL 8 PM CDT THIS EVENING
Urgent - Weather Message
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
1037 AM CDT Wed Aug 29 2012

... Wind Advisory In Effect Until 8 PM CDT This Evening For
Galveston Chambers Counties...

.Increasing Winds Will Occur Today Due To The Interaction Between
High Pressure Over Western Texas And Hurricane Isaac Over
Southeastern Louisiana. Winds Will Increase This Morning To
Between 20 And 30 Mph And Possibly Gust To 35 Mph This Afternoon.
The Winds Are Expected To Gradually Diminish Tonight And Thursday.

Chambers-Galveston-
Including The Cities Of... Anahuac... Friendswood... Galveston...
League City... Mont Belvieu... Texas City... Winnie
1037 AM CDT Wed Aug 29 2012

Starting to see traffic in the Ship Channel now, guess all danger to Texas from Issac is gone. Great!
Quoting MoldyinMS:


True, pets are a big part of it. In my experiences, relatives with alzhiemers or maybe mentally challenged in some other way that would not do well anywhere but home. So many reasons besides losing stuff. That was the point I was making. You can replace stuff, if you have the resources.

I'm not elderly yet but I live on a barrier island (in Florida) and would stay because of pets and also because my mother refuses to go anywhere and she lives across the street. Not moving a 55 gallon fish tank, either.
2101. Jstn568
SO frustrating seeing the reports of all the rescues in Plaquemines Parish come in. So many people did not leave when there was a mandatory evacuation ordered. I think they thought, "oh it's a TS/Cat 1, no big deal." And now look. There's a lesson here, one that seems to be taught over and over because people get too complacent. Granted, I know that some people can't leave for various reasons, but so many didn't even try.

Alright, stepping down from the soap box before the flood waters wash it away.
2102. LargoFl
Just a note..Palm beach county florida, is going thru one of those ..once in a 100 year floods, Isaac affected so many area's along the gulf coast huh..a tragedy really
Quoting Grothar:


This is getting very bad. Prayers being sent.

sheri
2104. angiest
Quoting Skyepony:


From my estimate he has moved just over 80nm miles from his first landfall on the delta, some 16 hours ago.
Any news about how the potentially explosive, radioactive sinkhole is holding up with the eye right over it?

Found the two items below but that's it.

http://www.examiner.com/article/sinkhole-parish-w ide-evacuation-no-cots-assistance-checks-or-rescue
http://www.examiner.com/article/isaac-50-miles-fr om-sinkhole-trees-down-people-stranded-on-rooftops
Quoting Jstn568:
SO frustrating seeing the reports of all the rescues in Plaquemines Parish come in. So many people did not leave when there was a mandatory evacuation ordered. I think they thought, "oh it's a TS/Cat 1, no big deal." And now look. There's a lesson here, one that seems to be taught over and over because people get too complacent. Granted, I know that some people can't leave for various reasons, but so many didn't even try.

Alright, stepping down from the soap box before the flood waters wash it away.



Somehow they manage to leave when the rescue boat gets there..... just sayin
2107. dader
Quoting Jstn568:
SO frustrating seeing the reports of all the rescues in Plaquemines Parish come in. So many people did not leave when there was a mandatory evacuation ordered. I think they thought, "oh it's a TS/Cat 1, no big deal." And now look. There's a lesson here, one that seems to be taught over and over because people get too complacent. Granted, I know that some people can't leave for various reasons, but so many didn't even try.

Alright, stepping down from the soap box before the flood waters wash it away.


In this country, we suffer fools all too gladly. They need to be billed for rescue and then they will leave. Too many "tough guys/gals" who want to ride it out below sea level.
Waveland surge is pushing 10' now.
That's what I said about second guessing (about 6 p.m. yesterday). Some of those folks might have left had NHC declared a hurricane yesterday morning but maybe not. The mayor in Plaquemines declared on NPR that 'this was no CAT 1!'
2110. LargoFl
Just think..most or all of those houses with water up to their roof tops are going to have to be condemmed and bull dozed..the mold will shortly become a very real health danger....just wondering..does that area have gators?
Quoting jpsb:
I am American but 7 of my 8 grand parents are Scots. And I love Scotch Whiskey, must be in the genes.


is that McCallahan (not sure if I'm spelling that right) Scotch? My dad drinks that stuff on the rocks. He gave me and my brother each a glass of it one Christmas Eve while sitting around a campfire. When he walked away, we both threw it in the fire. It was AWFUL! We felt bad because we knew it was expensive, but man oh man was it terrible. LOL! To each his own, I guess.
Quoting LargoFl:
Just a note..Palm beach county florida, is going thru one of those ..once in a 100 year floods, Isaac affected so many area's along the gulf coast huh..a tragedy really

Yes, Palm Beach County has been largely ignored
Looks like the Orleans Avenue Canal is about to overtop at Pumping Station 7, near I-610

http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/shefg raph-wotem2.cfm?sid=85642&d=7&dt=S
Quoting CybrTeddy:
If we close out August with 12 named before peak season, unless September really turns out to be a bust, finding it difficult to see how 2012 will end up with less than 15 named storms at this rate. Not any major hurricanes yet though, rather surprising lack of those.


I´m QUITE SURE 98L(Leslie) will be our first major hurricane..especially if recurve
Looks like Isaac has pulled up a beach chair and is enjoying the coastline...not in a hurry to leave.
2116. angiest
Quoting LargoFl:
Just think..most or all of those houses with water up to their roof tops are going to have to be condemmed and bull dozed..the mold will shortly become a very real health danger....just wondering..does that area have gators?


Is there a part of southern Louisiana that doesn't?
Quoting dader:


In this country, we suffer fools all too gladly. They need to be billed for rescue and then they will leave. Too many "tough guys/gals" who want to ride it out below sea level.

that area is not below sea level - on the natural banks of Mississippi river.
2118. LargoFl
Quoting 12george1:

Yes, Palm Beach County has been largely ignored
yes im afraid the bigger picture takes hold today..we are thinking about you folks though..stay safe down there as well ok
Quoting angiest:


It was even a bit breezy in Katy when we left home this morning.


Getting a little breezy in Jefferson County.



Partly Cloudy and Breezy

83°F

28°C

Humidity67%
Wind SpeedN 22 G 31 mph
Barometer29.65 in (1004.1 mb)
Dewpoint71°F (22°C)
Visibility10.00 mi
Heat Index88°F (31°C)
Quoting Badmonkey82009:
After years of lurking, I finally realized how it is you know that you've been lurking on the blog a little too long in one sitting.

1. You wore out your F5 key.
2. You understand Taz on first reading.
3. The Tampa shield doesn't sound like a minor league sports team's name.
4. You read Aussie's posts with an accent.
5. You know (and care) that Pat's dog had puppies.
6. You can define a westcaster, floridacaster, upcaster and downcaster... with examples.
7. You know that, when it comes to hurricanes, sometimes science is an art.
8. You randomly crave Fresca.
9. Jim Cantore causes you physical pain when he is on TV.
10. You root for a thunderstorm of the CV islands to become a hurricane then you try to steer into open ocean it by sheer force of will.
11. You.stop.noticing.dots.between.words.
12. You find yourself genuinely hoping that people you've never met get through the storm safely.

Thanks to everyone who posts the "good stuff". To everyone affected.. be safe, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Returning to lurking.


Really Enjoyable Post! LOL
*** 68+ So Far!! ***

Badmonkey82009, you need to re-post this to your own blog for posterity's sake. :o)


Quoting hurricanehanna:
Looks like Isaac has pulled up a beach chair and is enjoying the coastline...not in a hurry to leave.
2122. LargoFl
Quoting angiest:


Is there a part of southern Louisiana that doesn't?
whoa then big danger..probably alot of snakes also looking for a dry spot too
2123. hydrus
Isaac is at a crawl.
2124. LargoFl
raithwaite residents are saying they had to break thru roofs, climb onto rooftops. Had to be rescued by boat.
2125. ncstorm
Did the President of the Parrish that is comparing this to Katrina evacuate for Isaac?
2126. Gearsts
2127. GetReal


From the La/Tx border to Panama City Beach, Fl that is some coverage area....
Real Time water gauges, Click away:

http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/stati oninfo2.cfm?sid=85659&fid=&dt=S
2129. LargoFl
braithwaite park ...........
Quoting AussieStorm:


Nice one... but you read my posts with an accent??? I'm half Scottish though. Will you now read my posts with a Scottish accent.


Only half of them.
Quoting jpsb:
I am American but 7 of my 8 grand parents are Scots. And I love Scotch Whiskey, must be in the genes.

thats cool

Quoting kwgirl:
Ach aye. My wee bairn is Scots by birth. Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland, UK. If you went into a bar and asked about the Scottish people, you would be buying a round, its Scots.

thats great :)

Quoting CybrTeddy:
If we close out August with 12 named before peak season, unless September really turns out to be a bust, finding it difficult to see how 2012 will end up with less than 15 named storms at this rate. Not any major hurricanes yet though, rather surprising lack of those.

yep totaly agree

Quoting Relix:


This time I don't buy it. It*may* go N of the Islands but definitely not that curve upwards.


well I think it may go S and into the islands it really seem to be trending this way this year Caribbean storms and also GOM storms and US E coast Born Storms

JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting Thunderground:
Looks like the Orleans Avenue Canal is about to overtop at Pumping Station 7, near I-610

http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/shefg raph-wotem2.cfm?sid=85642&d=7&dt=S


How much more does it have go?
Quoting ncstorm:
Did the President of the Parrish that is comparing this to Katrina evacuate for Isaac?


As far as I know, Parish Presidents and some first responders don't usually leave their parish. Most of them have some sort of command facility, whether it be city hall or somewhere else, where they can take shelter. They need feet on the ground as soon as conditions allow it in order to get help where needed.
2135. dader
Quoting LAlurker:

that area is not below sea level - on the natural banks of Mississippi river.


Isn't the area uninhabitable without the levee system?
Yes and some of those same people only got 8 inches from Katrina but the water is into their attics this time.

Quoting LargoFl:
raithwaite residents are saying they had to break thru roofs, climb onto rooftops. Had to be rescued by boat.

Quoting FLCrackerGirl:


Really Enjoyable Post! LOL
*** 68+ So Far!! ***

Badmonkey82009, you need to re-post this to your own blog for posterity's sake. :o)



FlCracker!! I was wondering about you the other day when I went past 58th Ave!!

We have a WUBA group on FB, come join us.!! Hope your doing well!
Based on the image in Dr. Masters' post, if Isaac was going NW he'd be over NOLA, he's over Houma instead. Just saying.
Quoting Gatorxgrrrl:
People on top of houses in the mandatory evac zone, I guess some people have thick heads. I constantly hear "I want to be home to protect my property" - STUPID!! Now county and city officials have to be put in harms way for rescues. How can you protect property from your rooftop? DUMB!!


county and city didnt come get them, private citizens with boats did.

So whoever stayed and had a boat (an idiot in your mind maybe), is there to get their friends and neighbors out of this predicament.
Quoting ncstorm:
Did the President of the Parrish that is comparing this to Katrina evacuate for Isaac?


i don't think so. he was saying that water was coming through his electrical outlets on the back walls of his home and that he's lost some roof. so i'm assuming he's home or his family is.
11:00 AM CDT Wed Aug 29
Location: 29.6°N 90.7°W
Moving: NW at 6 mph
Min pressure: 972 mb
Max sustained: 75 mph
A day or two ago somebody posted asking if they should leave Plaquemines. I responded being behind that ridiculous horseshoe levee down there offers little protection.

A few posts later some jack__s posted "Remember, they can't make you leave!"

I wonder if that person is getting pulled off a roof today
Really, fellow bloggers, I know that many of you are tired of Isaac after 2 weeks of postings, but this is still going on here in LA, a lot still happening, still classed as a Cat 1 by NHC. Can you please refrain from posting about invests and TDs that won't affect anyone for days, weeks, or never. Give Isaac another day or two. Thanks!
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

hey Relix right, (I'm not wishcasting ok). I don't buy the track going NW and recure out to sea. them same models that's forecasting 98L, did Isaac and when Isaac was an Invest(94L) models were in almost the same place as they are now for 98L, well maybe just a bit N of what 98L models show, and well we sure saw what that invest 94L turned out to be, mean old Isaac. so as I said and someone else said it, we will have to wait a bit longer.

also 98L is about 1 whole degree S of where Isaac was when he was an invest


Thanks for discussing this, guys! I'm supposed to go camping (on another island) this weekend and am really interested in what is going to happen with 98L. Guess we'll have to wait until Thursday or so to get a better idea?

Lindy
2145. DVSmith
Quoting LargoFl:
braithwaite park ...........


That's horrible. I hope everyone was able (and wise enough) to evacuate prior to the levee overtopping.
Quoting kwgirl:
Ach aye. My wee bairn is Scots by birth. Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland, UK. If you went into a bar and asked about the Scottish people, you would be buying a round, its Scots.


I,m just across the river in Gourock,its a small world.
Man, Isaac is just sitting there. I've always said a Cat 1 storm can be just as bad as a stronger storm. Especially when it just sits there like that. The surge is topping the levees. They are holding but if they are not high enough that can be just as bad. Praying that Isaac gets moving and gets out of there real fast. Yes we have had flooding here in Palm Beach county but it's nothing compared to what they are going trough. Can't even imagine having head high water in the house.
2148. angiest
Quoting carpentergrl:


As far as I know, Parish Presidents and some first responders don't usually leave their parish. Most of them have some sort of command facility, whether it be city hall or somewhere else, where they can take shelter. They need feet on the ground as soon as conditions allow it in order to get help where needed.


Government officials typically do need to stay, for a variety of reasons. There are also likely to be some businesses (hospitals....) where private citizens are still required to work. So even in a mandatory evac, there are people who have to stay.
For those who are interested, in case you can't find Patrap's original post, I saved the pic he posted of Nola Roux and her first two puppies. Hoping Patrap doesn't mind if I repost, and hoping all 2-legged and 4-legged residents of the area are weathering the storm well. My prayers are with you. (Now let's see whether I do this right....no guarantees.) Link
2150. USCGLT
LOL Love the dramatic? Steve Harrigan (sp) on Fox News is in Ocean Springs standing in water up to his chest in someones back yard on Washington Av, the camera man is on the roof. Based on his report you would think the City of Ocean Springs is under water. The reality is where he standing he is a block or 2 off the beach about 4 feet above sea level. The home is on stilts about 15 feet up. Downtown Ocean Springs is about 6 blocks away and is NOT under water.
2151. ncstorm
Quoting truecajun:


i don't think so. he was saying that water was coming through his electrical outlets on the back walls of his home and that he's lost some roof. so i'm assuming he's home or his family is.


Im interested to know if he was at home or a command center..because if he was at home riding the storm out, then how can one expect the town to evacuate if their own leadership is not following the evacuation orders...

I dont know the story just speculating here..
Quoting LAlurker:

Was not the Mississippi river levee that was overtopped. A rural "back levee" that had not yet been raised since K. I feel very sorry for these people and the damage to their homes, but they were warned, and should have known better than to stay.


Not responding to you directly, but more the general sentiment...

It is human nature to search for a reason to not care. We all do it to some degree or other. It's comforting to believe that the good and bad things that happen in life occur for a reason. In my opinion, our ability to reject this is a excellent measure of our worth, both as individuals and as a society.





2153. sar2401
Quoting weatherh98:
Coming in from mandeville, 3.20 inches of rain.

Gusts around hurricane force.

Only getting worse folks

No power till at least sept 2nd.


Hope you do OK through it all, H98. If they can get your power restored in three days, you're doing good. It was 12 days in AL due to Ivan. Isaac seems to have been at least as bad, in terms of rain, in its outer rain bands as it has been in the center of the storm. Mobile s up to over 4.5 inches over the last two days, and I know there are areas of Florida with much more than that. Isaac is going to be studied for a long time.
Quoting dader:


In this country, we suffer fools all too gladly. They need to be billed for rescue and then they will leave. Too many "tough guys/gals" who want to ride it out below sea level.


It's psychology really. We humans are a reactive species, not a proactive species by nature. It's always going to happen. In everything we do. It's "close the barn door after the horse runs out."
Quoting FLCrackerGirl:


Really Enjoyable Post! LOL
*** 68+ So Far!! ***

Badmonkey82009, you need to re-post this to your own blog for posterity's sake. :o)


I have to admit that BadMonkey's comment caused me to create my first blog! I'm not taking credit for the comment ... but I COULD NOT resist doing it because I didn't want to see it "disappear" into thin air.

Lindy
Quoting ncstorm:


Im interested to know if he was at home or a command center..because if he was at home riding the storm out, then how can one expect the town to evacuate if their own leadership is not following the evacuation orders...

I dont know the story just speculating here..


He had been in the command center and when reports of issues with one of the levee was near overtopping he responded with Corp Engineer leadership. Regarding knowing his home was damaged, he went home to change into dry clothing when he discovered the piece of missing roof and the collapsing wall and water damage.

He has been a well respected hands on leader for that parish and a strong advocate against BP and the Fed Govt after the spill in 2010.
2157. angiest
Quoting SrChiefFan1:


He had been in the command center and when reports of issues with one of the levee was near overtopping he responded with Corp Engineer leadership. Regarding knowing his home was damaged, he went home to change into dry clothing when he discovered the piece of missing roof and the collapsing wall and water damage.

He has been a well respected hands on leader for that parish and a strong advocate against BP and the Fed Govt after the spill in 2010.


Nungesser has a good reputation outside of SE Louisiana.
Quoting FunhouseFX:


Not responding to you directly, but more the general sentiment...

It is human nature to search for a reason to not care. We all do it to some degree or other. It's comforting to believe that the good and bad things that happen in life occur for a reason. In my opinion, our ability to reject this is a excellent measure of our worth, both as individuals and as a society.







Profound.... thank you!
2159. Asta
http://www.wwltv.com/weather/hurricane-isaac/Slow-m oving-Hurricane-Isaac-pounding-southeastern-Louisi ana-167828515.html?c=n
2160. Grothar
Quoting catastropheadjuster:


This is getting very bad. Prayers being sent.

sheri


Mine went out on the early run.
2161. Asta
Quoting E46Pilot:


It's psychology really. We humans are a reactive species, not a proactive species by nature. It's always going to happen. In everything we do. It's "close the barn door after the horse runs out."

Evacuation and the decision to do so is a complex process.
Nola was told to Shelter in place.
The reason to leave, if at all, is also very often a financial decision.
Projected to be a Cat 1, but has a Cat 2 surge.
and many people were expected to come back to work on Thursday, so they are hestitant to evac, or cannot since they have a job to do.
It is expensive for gas to arkansas and a hotel for 6 plus people, and to find one that takes dogs over 100lbs is difficult at best. Or they have cattle or other responsibilities.
If you have never been there, perhaps it is best not to judge others until you have walked in their shoes.

Try to look for the good in people first.
2162. shfr173
This blog has slowed, must be due to numerous power outages??
Quoting Asta:

Evacuation and the decision to do so is a complex process.
Nola was told to Shelter in place.
The reason to leave, if at all, is also very often a financial decision.
Projected to be a Cat 1, but has a Cat 2 surge.
and many people were expected to come back to work on Thursday, so they are hestitant to evac, or cannot since they have a job to do.
It is expensive for gas to arkansas and a hotel for 6 plus people, and to find one that takes dogs over 100lbs is difficult at best. Or they have cattle or other responsibilities.
If you have never been there, perhaps it is best not to judge others until you have walked in their shoes.

Try to look for the good in people first.


Thats my point!
Quoting LargoFl:
Just think..most or all of those houses with water up to their roof tops are going to have to be condemmed and bull dozed..the mold will shortly become a very real health danger....just wondering..does that area have gators?


The American alligator exists naturally in virtually all of the state of Louisiana, most especially the southernmost part.

In fact, not many people know this but it is Louisiana, not Florida which has the highest concentration of alligators per capita (number of alligators vs. humans living in the designated region).
2165. Asta
Quoting angiest:


Government officials typically do need to stay, for a variety of reasons. There are also likely to be some businesses (hospitals....) where private citizens are still required to work. So even in a mandatory evac, there are people who have to stay.

New Orleans was asked to ' Shelter in Place" by the Mayor... No evacation was called. They are fortunate that the storm did not intensify
2166. Asta
Quoting cajunkid:


How much more does it have go?

Is this valid?? Doesn't look good.. lake coming in?? http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/sites/site.php?st ation=OACL1&network=LA_COOP

2167. Eagle84
Quoting E46Pilot:
I've always said a Cat 1 storm can be just as bad as a stronger storm.


Anyone that works on the water would agree. Anything over 48 knots is a storm and is treated as dangerous. Over 64 knots and it is a matter of survival.

The categories are really more to gauge potential damage, but people take them to mean how "safe" it is to be in the storm.

2168. pryord
Quoting shfr173:
This blog has slowed, must be due to numerous power outages??


A lot of the mets on here come from there. Please pray for them!
I am just wondering of he is going to turn or move more west??????