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Historic Nor'easter pounds Mid-Atlantic coast

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT on November 12, 2009

A historic Nor'easter, energized by the remains of Hurricane Ida, is pounding the coast form North Carolina to New Jersey with heavy rain, tropical storm-force winds, and a destructive storm surge. Wind gusts of 64 mph were reported at the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel and at Cape Henry, VA this morning. The high winds, combined with the slow movement of the Nor'easter are acting to push near-record storm surges onto the coast in Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware. At Norfolk, Virginia, the storm surge from Ida-ex was 5.0 feet at 10 am EST, the third highest storm surge there since tide gauge records began in 1927. Only Hurricane Isabel in 2003 and the Chesapeake-Atlantic Hurricane of 1933 have brought higher storm surges to Norfolk. Serious coastal flooding is occurring from northern North Carolina to the Delaware/New Jersey border, and the storm surge at Lewes Point, Delaware at 10 am this morning was 4.0 feet, just below the record high of 4.17' set during the January 4, 1992 Nor'easter. Tide records go back to 1919 at Lewes Point.


Figure 1. The Ida-ex Nor'easter at 9:31 am EST 11/12/09. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

The highest storm surges on record at the Sewell's Point tide gauge in Norfolk, Virginia are:

5.62' Sep 2003 Hurricane Isabel
5.61' Aug 1933 Chesapeake-Atlantic Hurricane
5.00' Nov 2009 Ida-ex
4.73' Sep 1933 Hurricane 13, Cat 1
4.66' Mar 1962 Ash Wednesday Nor'easter
4.05' Sep 1936 Hurricane 13, Cat 2

And the highest water levels, measured above Mean Lower Low Water (MLLW, the lowest tide measured in a full 19-year natural tidal cycle):

1933 hurricane (Aug 23rd 1933)..............8.9 feet MLLW
April 11th 1956 Nor'easter..................8.0 feet MLLW
Hurricane Isabel (Sep 18th 2003)............7.9 feet MLLW
Ash Wednesday storm (Mar 7th 1962)..........7.8 feet MLLW

The water level during high tide this morning at 5 am EST reached 6.7' MLLW in Norfolk at Sewell's Point, but the storm surge of Ida-ex has increased by a full foot since then. The next high tide at 5 pm may see water levels near 8.2 feet. The tremendous amount of rain Ida-ex is dumping over the coast is adding to the storm surge, since the drainage of the rivers into the coastal bays raises the water level above what the wind pushes in.


Figure 2. Predicted storm tide (height above Mean Lower Low Water (MLLW, the lowest tide measured in a full 19-year natural tidal cycle, black line) for Sewell's Point, Virgina in Norfolk, as predicted by the GFS model. A storm tide of 8.0 feet is forecast this afternoon during the 5 pm EST high tide. For a full description of this plot, see the NOAA Extratropical Surge web site.


Figure 3. Tide gauge trace from the Sewell's Point gauge in Norfolk, VA, shows a storm surge of 5 feet (green line) at 10 am EST, and a maximum tide of 6.7 feet above MLLW so far today. Image credit: NOAA Tides and Currents.


Figure 4. Radar-estimated rainfall from the Norfolk radar shows a large area of 4 - 5 inches of rainfall over coastal Virginia and North Carolina. The band of very high rainfall amounts of 5 - 8 inches shown in the northeast part of the radar display is not real; rainfall amounts in that region have been closer to 2 - 4 inches. The error results because at that distance from the radar, the beam is about 8,000 feet above the ground, and is hitting a "bright band" of highly reflective precipitation, where snow is melting and forming rain. The highly reflective rain/snow area reflects much more of the radar beam back, making the software algorithm used to estimate precipitation amounts fail.

You can follow the storm today with our Severe Weather Page.

Jeff Masters

Hurricane Winter Weather

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

The animation looks like the center is now moving inland. Unless it's just me...
cubanheat...I can't answer that without profanity...and I don't wanna get banned right now...
doing it now!
COC for Nor'easter "Ida" is approximately 50 MI E of Moorehead City, NC. Take a look at the NOAA Composite Radar, tab over to NC and you'll see it!
Link

this is an interactive outage map, its zoomable as well as real time. It can be refreshed so you'll see it as they go off or come back on.
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cubanheat...today, this day -- in the present -- our friend performed a great service; no, many great services on and to this blog.
I don't always agree with him on everything.
But he is a scientist and knowledgeable and today and many days...he is a kind teacher.
If he upset you, and I know for a fact he can do that :) then please many up and wu-mail him.
I just spent a few minutes of my life to respectfully answer you, so please be respectful of us, okay.
502. presslord 2:58 AM GMT on November 13, 2009
cubanheat

thanks!!!
PUBLIC ADVISORY NUMBER 37 FOR REMNANTS OF IDA
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD AL112009
1000 PM EST FRI NOV 12 2009

...HEAVY RAINS CONTINUE ACROSS EASTERN VIRGINIA ... EASTERN
MARYLAND ... DELAWARE ... SOUTHERN NEW JERSY ... AND CENTRAL NORTH
CAROLINA ...

FLOOD WARNINGS CONTINUE FOR AREAS FROM ALABAMA AND THE FLORIDA
PANHANDLE NORTHEAST THROUGH THE CAROLINAS AND SOUTHERN VIRGINIA.
FLOOD AND FLASH FLOOD WATCHES AND ADVISORIES REMAIN IN EFFECT
ACROSS PORTIONS OF EASTERN VIRGINIA AND MARYLAND INTO DELAWARE.
COASTAL FLOOD WATCHES AND WARNINGS ARE IN EFFECT FROM EASTERN
NORTH CAROLINA NORTHWARD TO LONG ISLAND. GALE...HIGH WIND AND
STORM WARNINGS ARE IN EFFECT FROM EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA NORTHWARD
TO NEW JERSEY.

FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE WATCHES
AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV.

AT 1000 PM EST...0300 UTC...LOW PRESSURE WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE
35.1 NORTH...AND LONGITUDE 75.4 WEST...OR 10 MILES...15 KM...EAST
OF HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA AND 75 MILES...105 KM...SOUTH-SOUTHEAST
OF ELIZABETH CITY NORTH CAROLINA.


THE SURFACE LOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMNANTS OF IDA IS EXPECTED TO
BE QUASI STATIONARY OFFSHORE NORTH CAROLINA THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY
THEN BEGIN TO SLOWLY MOVE EASTWARD.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 40 MPH...65 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 993 MB...29.33 INCHES.

Area topography. Anything in orange or "warmer", if accurate, did not flood. Yellow, probably not.

Some areas in green are water or marsh and some are inhabited.


(Best at full size, click!)


Press, there are places around here, such SE Newport News, where one must be careful for their own personal safety if you know what I mean. This area is a spread out "city" of 2 M scattered among almost a dozen separate towns. End result is there is everything there, good and bad, that one would find in a city of 2 M.
Please post, e-mail and spam this announcement anywhere you can think of...be sure to use our WU Featured Blog link:

Portlight.org is deploying up to 3 self sufficient mobile kitchens capable of feeding over 2000 people a day to the Virginia coast...we will be providing meals for first responders, volunteers, and, of course, affected residents...

Please donate using the PayPal button at this link...give early...and give often...

Link
512. beell
And just for cubanheat!

Rare is virginia a recip state?
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Just wanted to let everyone know my prayers are with all you folks who are suffering through the severe weather in the US. Hope everyone is okay.

Hi, NeNe. Good to know you've got MidAtlantic's, etc.'s back!
Quoting presslord:
water + power outage will = hungry people


presslord+crisis=guardian angel
yes conch it is. But Flood has few friends there!
Watching wavy.com live report. It's pretty choppy - not sure if they are overloaded, or if it's on my end. Anyway..they were showing someone in a kayak or canoe, going down what looks like a city street. Sounds like serious flooding.
Quoting cubanheat:
yeah right!!!! this atmo should call himself the " stormkiller",,,since Ida formed ,,has been saying ,"sheared will ripped Ida",,,"no way to be a Hurricane",,,"no landfall in Conus",,,calling "doomcasters" who everyone who believe in a merge or a Perfect Storm II,,,,so now that everything that he said it wont happens ,,,is already happens ,,,,he' s presuming that he knows about weather,,,,
go to take a shower !!!!

Ummm, I doubted one SFMR reading near a thunderstorm outflow when Ida was near the LA coast?
Otherwise, I dunno what you are talking about. P451 can vouch for us discussing vorticity advection, etc. (go look it up...and the blog comments, too).

The only caster-names I throw around are those mounted to the bottom of my chair.

My wife will thank you, I did forget to shower.
go in packin'
515...Thanks!!!! but as you can see...this is a community effort...
Were getting this New Response ready with some fast Planning and quick work from a lotta folks.


We plan to be in Position as soon as Possible.
one of us can!
You two be safe up there! Dont want to fend off the trolls without you!
Quoting WaterWitch11:


presslord+crisis=guardian angel


correction:

presslord+patrap+crisis=guardian angels
Looking at that outage map is seems the main line south to the coast is out and many subs as well. will take some time to fire those up and if the water is as high as stated it wont be soon. Like atmo said if the winds dont die soon no place for the water to go and no power!

I guess some SOS on Biscuits and some Shrimp Creole should firm up the Hungriest.


Simple fare for a Simple Job.


Patrap their yankees dont kill em!!
Same topography map, but huge (5 MB?) for the map junkies: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/images/virginia-beach-dem-map.jpg
Quoting rareaire:
Looking at that outage map is seems the main line south to the coast is out and many subs as well. will take some time to fire those up and if the water is as high as stated it wont be soon. Like atmo said if the winds dont die soon no place for the water to go and no power!

That was outdrsmn.
The total outage count from Dominion went from 188k to 190k, and just dropped bac down to 188k.
Looks like even in these conditions, they have some people out there working on the outages.
Y'all!! This is all incredibly helpful!!!!!!!!!! Millions of "Thanks!!!!!!!"
Quoting atmoaggie:

That was outdrsmn.
oops sorry, id say my bad but daugter has stated im to old to say that and she is here!
Quoting BrowardJeff:
The total outage count from Dominion went from 188k to 190k, and just dropped bac down to 188k.
Looks like even in these conditions, they have some people out there working on the outages.


188,000 "utility customers" without power=approximately 564,000 people in the dark
Quoting presslord:
515...Thanks!!!! but as you can see...this is a community effort...


i understand that but it seems to me that you & patrap are the "biggest toads in the puddle" lol
just look what's transpired here in the last hour...
Quoting presslord:
515...Thanks!!!! but as you can see...this is a community effort...


Thinking about placement; (and so sorry I don't know the area like I know Delaware coast).

When I'm doing post-disaster community outreach...even in "iffy" areas, I feel safe, even by myself, and most helpful near:

Senior Centers

Community Centers (Mixed use & ages best)

If there's a "Church" Street, avenue or square, w/lots of churches, great.

Near Social Services buildings okay, but not exactly upbeat.
post 518.
dont take it on, Atmo.
Quoting pottery:
post 518.
dont take it on, Atmo.
Exactly. not worth it in this kind of time!
Quoting rareaire:
Patrap their yankees dont kill em!!

ROFL, eh, that's a negative, rare.
BELOW the Mason-Dixon line, thank u very much.
Funny, tho.
Creaole and SOS i think thats a recipe for serious problems up that far! I know it would be here . We dont even have a popeyes!
atmo is one of the most knowledgeable, least noxious, best liked people on the blog...
Quoting rareaire:
Exactly. not worth it in this kind of time!


just have to say:
when any of us thinks they are perfect and don't ever make mistakes please introduce yourself to us cause I think we would all like to meet the one who can walk on water!
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


Thinking about placement; (and so sorry I don't know the area like I know Delaware coast).

When I'm doing post-disaster community outreach...even in "iffy" areas, I feel safe, even by myself, and most helpful near:

Senior Centers

Community Centers (Mixed use & ages best)

If there's a "Church" Street, avenue or square, w/lots of churches, great.

Near Social Services buildings okay, but not exactly upbeat.


Suggestion, try calling the Emergency Management officals in the area and ask them where the best place would be to serve the largest amount of people.
alright its time for bed here. I have to go way north tomorrow cause conch is a sissy!
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

ROFL, eh, that's a negative, rare.
BELOW the Mason-Dixon line, thank u very much.
Funny, tho.


Did we forget to tell ya'll we moved the line south some?
Press and Patrap you be safe. Ill check in on everyone tomorrow, Nite all
One of the less populous places that I know has a tendency to flood is Poqouson.

I doubt any of the pictures online (for the whole area) are from the high tide that peaked at around 6, they are too bright for 6 PM EST. They are from this morning's high tide. And most of them only show water levels very close to in the houses. Tonight's tide was higher...



The peak at a couple of places was over Isabel's surge. So a look at where Isabel flooded would be a good start to deployment questions.

Tide values from this morning and afternoon tide cycles and
against Hurricane Isabel in 2003...heights above MLLW.

Site..........Morning..Afternoon...Isabel
Chesapeake BBT...6.46'...7.61'...7.54'
Sewells Point..........6.73'...7.74'...7.89'
Money Point.............7.37'...8.56'*..8.33'

* still rising

Money Point is a section of the Elizabeth River.
Quoting PcolaDan:


Did we forget to tell ya'll we moved the line south some?
Now thats funny! lol
Here's a comment from a friend of mine in Cary, North Carolina..not to minimize what's happening elsewhere at all..but just in case others have friends/relatives in the area.

"What we've had is 3+ straight days of rain. And when I say straight, I mean non-stop. The dogs are hating it...freezing rain has got to be miserable. Other than that, it's been pretty mild"
Quoting Bordonaro:


Suggestion, try calling the emergency management officals in the area and ask them where the best place would be to serve the largest amount of people.

The Firehouse! Everybody loves the Firehouse!

Bordonaro, shh, just between you and me, don't say the Fix Everything My Ass word to Press; he doesn't want to get banned.
Quoting ConchHondros:
Rare is virginia a recip state?


No, but they do have an emergency stamp program, much like Florida

Howdy folks...came in to check on things and see if I can learn something about these baroclinic systems...I'm not bad for the barotropic features but I need to do some work on these
rare....Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:

The Firehouse! Everybody loves the Firehouse!

Bordonaro, shh, just between you and me, don't say the Fix Everything My Ass word to Press; he doesn't want to get banned.


Those are fighting words, as usual they're "asleep at the wheel"!! Probably talking about tomorrow's lunch menu, meanwhile, over 2,000,000 are being affected by a storm that does NOT want to quit!!
Quoting rareaire:
oops sorry, id say my bad but daugter has stated im to old to say that and she is here!


Say "mea culpa" and tell her that it's Latin for "my bad"
Quoting presslord:
atmo is one of the most knowledgeable, least noxious, best liked people on the blog...


Precisely; atmo, this person is beneath you...
Anyone home?
Over here!
Evening, all...Mrs. Flood here...for those I didn't meet this afternoon. :)
561. xcool
sympathies, ma'am ; )
I'm out for the night..probably back to full lurk mode tomorrow.

To anyone in the affected area..stay safe..

To the Portlight gang - good luck, and keep up the good work!
Lurking..making a Trip List for myself.

Crab Boil,Zatarains,,Tabasco,..Bakers Hat,Cajun Style Apron,..Saints Hat...what else?

Left Handed Spatula..,Check

And also reminding myself.,

Dont yell at the FEMA folks Pat..

Repeating,..dont yell at the FEMA folks Pat.

Smile and mumble,,"Serenity Now"
LOL! Thanks, Press...pleasure to meet you! I've heard (and read by lurking)so much about you.
Pleasure's all mind, ma'am!

Pat...go ahead...yell at the FEMA crowd...
562, LOL.
Good to meet the Mrs. Flood. Greetings.
Good Going Portlight.
Good night all.
Just a quick note for conch, rare and eyes - no requirements for working as an adjuster in Virginia. You're all good to go. :)
Thanks, Pottery - and good night!
Hi everyone just checking in to see how and what Ex Ida is doing up on the East coast..... I hope everyone is ok and remember you will get through this....

Taco :0)

Oh yea nice to meet you Mrs Flood.....
Pat, press, if there was anything I could do other than provide moral support, I would; you guys are amazing! At the risk of sounding maudlin, I'm proud to count you among my friends...if a man is to be judged by the company he keeps, I must be one hell of a guy!
Pleased to meet you, Taco! :)
Big smile here :0)
Quoting Floodman:
...if a man is to be judged by the company he keeps, I must be one hell of a guy!


I am here to testify, my darlin', that you are indeed one hell of a guy!
Taco, how you doing to night?
Surge atlas from the State of Virginia.

All of Poquoson floods with a cat 2 cane.

(Click for full size)


Big picture for the peninsula:

(Click for full size)


And the south shore:

(Click for full size)


All from here: http://www.vaemergency.com/threats/hurricane/stormsurge.cfm
just saw and thought i'd share:

Magnitude
6.5

Friday, November 13, 2009 at 12:05:55 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
19.348°S, 70.246°W
Depth
10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region
TARAPACA, CHILE
Distances
95 km (60 miles) S of Arica, Chile
95 km (60 miles) N of Iquique, Chile
150 km (95 miles) S of Tacna, Peru
1560 km (970 miles) N of SANTIAGO, Chile

pretty shallow nothing on the media as of yet
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:


I am here to testify, my darlin', that you are indeed one hell of a guy!


It would appear from your nick.. that you have been with Floodman for a loooong time :)
Well after the tropics put out one last breath it looks to done for sure.
Quoting Patrap:
Lurking..making a Trip List for myself.

Crab Boil,Zatarains,,Tabasco,..Bakers Hat,Cajun Style Apron,..Saints Hat...what else?

Left Handed Spatula..,Check

And also reminding myself.,

Dont yell at the FEMA folks Pat..

Repeating,..dont yell at the FEMA folks Pat.

Smile and mumble,,"Serenity Now"

lol.

You would be surprised that the Krogers up there had Paul Prudhomme's Blackened Redfish Magic and Community Coffee, even New Orleans blend. And Louisiana Fish Fry products, too.
Quoting Orcasystems:


It would appear from your nick.. that you have been with Floodman for a loooong time :)


I'm not easy, Orca. I would imagine it seems much longer than it's really been LOL
583. 789
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:
Evening, all...Mrs. Flood here...for those I didn't meet this afternoon. :)
hello and welcome just a lurker during hot times flood has very welcome input here nice to hear from his inspiration ,ida extropical is really showing her strength thoughts out to those without power feeliong her wrath
Quoting Orcasystems:


It would appear from your nick.. that you have been with Floodman for a loooong time :)


Hi, Orca...Flood and I have been together a few years, but two lifetimes wouldn't be enough to suit me. But my nearly 50 years on this earth have indeed been a long and very strange trip, at times! :)
Quoting Floodman:


I'm not easy, Orca. I would imagine it seems much longer than it's really been LOL


I know what you mean.. SWMBO must be a saint.. we had our 30th this year. She gave me H1N1 on our anniversary.
atmo, the maps say flooding for a CAT2; how about a cumulative CAT2? The rainfall and the onshore in addition to the storm surge fofr oh, say 36-48 hours...seems the accumulated energy and water with no escape would equal a CAT2, huh?
If Ida's remnants counted for Ida i'd say she got a shot for retirement.
I don't know you people, but your great. Is Presslord driving north from SC? Depending on where he, she or anyone is coming from, if the NC ferries make sense in terms of mileage, we perhaps could stage him here on the OBX, we are only 65 miles from downtown Portsmouth. It is a wide 4 lane highway straight into downtown Norfolk. No turns, few lights, few trees along the roads to have come down (NC 158 into NC 168). I know it sounds a little crazy since the OBX was supposed to be slammed, but so far, not too bad. The big issue is little highway NC-12 which has closed down several times today. But we have pros on getting it reopened. Anyway, assuming we are still dry in the am, it is an offer. We live at MP Zero, next to the bridge to the mainland.
Quoting Orcasystems:


I know what you mean.. SWMBO must be a saint.. we had our 30th this year. She gave me H1N1 on our anniversary.


Orca, my friend, I believe I told you that I was not quite convinced that that was an intentional gift...LOL
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:


Hi, Orca...Flood and I have been together a few years, but two lifetimes wouldn't be enough to suit me. But my nearly 50 years on this earth have indeed been a long and very strange trip, at times! :)

Ohhhh, proof that Flood is a cradle-robber.
We all know he was there in the wings whispering in Napoleon's ear...
Quoting 789:
hello and welcome just a lurker during hot times flood has very welcome input here nice to hear from his inspiration ,ida extropical is really showing her strength thoughts out to those without power feeliong her wrath


Thanks so much, 789! I've been a lurker for awhile myself, finally decided to join the discussion. You've all made me feel warmly welcomed. I see why Flood so enjoys his time here. :)
570. taco2me61 4:09 AM GMT on November 13, 2009
Hi everyone just checking in to see how and what Ex Ida is doing up on the East coast..... I hope everyone is ok and remember you will get through this....


Hey, there. So I just finished watching the DC area weather report. It's not as bad as it could be; pales in comparison to Hampton Rds. area of VA.

Bethany Beach, DE: erosion all the way up beach and into dunes.

Ocean City, MD: erosion and some street flooding, esp. bay side

DC et environs: Potomac River flooding up and onto sidewalks and walkways; but didn't mention streets. Finally some breaks in rain pattern but they'll "fill in."

Still at least 12 hours of strong rain, wind, and flood warnings in Chesapeake Bay and Eastern Shore.

But no major building or residence damages reported...yet. Poss. minor flooding thus far,(prob. in Bethany).

12 more hours to go to see if we've dodged the worst bullets here.

Oh, Annapolis was mentioned, parking lot near dock will be a lake but attendant was taking it with humor.
Quoting Floodman:
atmo, the maps say flooding for a CAT2; how about a cumulative CAT2? The rainfall and the onshore in addition to the storm surge fofr oh, say 36-48 hours...seems the accumulated energy and water with no escape would equal a CAT2, huh?

Yeah, not finding much in the way of good elevation vs water mapping. I'm a lookin, though.

I dunno. I hope it isn't a cat 2 surge equivalent...dat's a lot of area.
Quoting Floodman:


I'm not easy, Orca. I would imagine it seems much longer than it's really been LOL

You may not be easy, but are you cheap?
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:


Hi, Orca...Flood and I have been together a few years, but two lifetimes wouldn't be enough to suit me. But my nearly 50 years on this earth have indeed been a long and very strange trip, at times! :)


I would have guessed Flood at 2 times your age :)
Like yourself.. SWMBO and myself are just spring chickens like yourself.. both turned 30 this year,
Quoting OuterBanker:
I don't know you people, but your great. Is Presslord driving north from SC? Depending on where he, she or anyone is coming from, if the NC ferries make sense in terms of mileage, we perhaps could stage him here on the OBX, we are only 65 miles from downtown Portsmouth. It is a wide 4 lane highway straight into downtown Norfolk. No turns, few lights, few trees along the roads to have come down (NC 158 into NC 168). I know it sounds a little crazy since the OBX was supposed to be slammed, but so far, not too bad. The big issue is little highway NC-12 which has closed down several times today. But we have pros on getting it reopened. Anyway, assuming we are still dry in the am, it is an offer. We live at MP Zero, next to the bridge to the mainland.


You might want to WU mail him with this info.
Quoting atmoaggie:

Ohhhh, proof that Flood is a cradle-robber.
We all know he was there in the wings whispering in Napoleon's ear...


LMBO!!! This will really knock you out - he's younger than I by 3 weeks, so I'M the cradle-robber! We both will turn 50 in the first few weeks of the new year.
Quoting atmoaggie:

Yeah, not finding much in the way of good elevation vs water mapping. I'm a lookin, though.

I dunno. I hope it isn't a cat 2 surge equivalent...dat's a lot of area.


They won't really have surge per se will they? This should be wind driven water for the most part since it really didn't have a tight low that creates the surge. Or am I way off base hear. Don't know, just thinking out loud.
Quoting atmoaggie:

Ohhhh, proof that Flood is a cradle-robber.
We all know he was there in the wings whispering in Napoleon's ear...


My friend...just so you know, a life-long anglophile I was whispering "Waterloo, schmaterloo"
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:


LMBO!!! This will really knock you out - he's younger than I by 3 weeks, so I'M the cradle-robber! We both will turn 50 in the first few weeks of the new year.


OMG...I am older then Flood...shoot me now :(
Quoting OuterBanker:
I don't know you people, but your great. Is Presslord driving north from SC? Depending on where he, she or anyone is coming from, if the NC ferries make sense in terms of mileage, we perhaps could stage him here on the OBX, we are only 65 miles from downtown Portsmouth. It is a wide 4 lane highway straight into downtown Norfolk. No turns, few lights, few trees along the roads to have come down (NC 158 into NC 168). I know it sounds a little crazy since the OBX was supposed to be slammed, but so far, not too bad. The big issue is little highway NC-12 which has closed down several times today. But we have pros on getting it reopened. Anyway, assuming we are still dry in the am, it is an offer. We live at MP Zero, next to the bridge to the mainland.


Welcome to wunderground! If you have the chance to and you know where they are, go by and meet them...they are some of the best of us!
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:


LMBO!!! This will really knock you out - he's younger than I by 3 weeks, so I'M the cradle-robber! We both will turn 50 in the first few weeks of the new year.


50 hmm it'll come to me ... 50, when was that
Quoting PcolaDan:


You might want to WU mail him with this info.


Done, thanks PcolaDan for the tip.
Hey Y'all, first time posting on here, so bear with me. I work with press and pat and all them, and we're starting to make our preparations for deployment. Thanks to everyone who has posted maps and tips, its sooo helpfull! Is there anyone in the affected areas who might have personal knowledge of some of these communities? and maybe the time to send me a WU-mail with your info so I can get an on the ground report? anyone who lives by there that wants to put your name down as a volunteer? we're hoping to have some teams rolling in around sunday to start figuring out where to place a kitchen, and if anyone has strong ties to a specific community that needs some help, and especially a church or community center where we might be able to locate a kitchen, or if you're in emergency response and would like us to come serve you some lunch, please please let me know!
once again, thank you all so much for your kindness and generosity and knowledge, and my heart goes out to everyone living through this right now. we're coming! and we're bringing lunch!
Quoting PcolaDan:


They won't really have surge per se will they? This should be wind driven water for the most part since it really didn't have a tight low that creates the surge. Or am I way off base hear. Don't know, just thinking out loud.

Right. A slower buildup, but with levels rivaling Isabel, it is going to propagate inland and flood some folks. And with 2 days of rain swelling the rivers vs a moving TC, where the rain runoff comes downstream sometime after the peak surge, (usually) I don't know just how different this is going to be. I don't know. Little data.

The pics from this morning showed a bunch of areas with the water lapping at the door thresholds. The 6 PM peak was higher on the gauges, but the rain had abated, too. So tough to definitively say that more water was present at homes this afternoon than this morning (for which all of the pics are available).

Also tough to find a coastal VA topographical map that shows only the low areas without burying it in contours that include the hills and mountains (cannot see the 5 feet range when they are showing 0 to 2000).
Quoting StormW:


I don't remember 30!


OMG Storm now thats funny.... while I'm fixen to hit 48 at the end of the month....

Taco :0)
Okay y'all, just to put a little more perspective on this age thing...Flood is possessed of a VERY chequered past, which accounts for his seemingly old age. I, however, didn't start acquiring such a past until MUCH later in life, and therefore am not so bad off for the wear and tear!

(Love you, baby, road miles notwithstanding!)
Quoting StormW:


I don't remember 30!


Umm correction.. that would be 50
wishful thinking on the 30

I'm not sure if I even remember being 30 :(
Quoting atmoaggie:

Yeah, not finding much in the way of good elevation vs water mapping. I'm a lookin, though.

I dunno. I hope it isn't a cat 2 surge equivalent...dat's a lot of area.


What worries me is the duration; again, I'm no expert on any of these systems but I'm vastly lacking in information about the baroclinic systems...but it seems to me that if a Hurricane releases x energy over y time, and one of these systems release .1x energy over the same time, if the duration is 10x that of a hurricane, the same energy has been released but the rainfall amounts will be far in excess...add the wind and the tides and there's nowhere for the water to go
588. How kind of you. Sounds like a dream drive for a vacation another time!
Quoting KitchenGypsy:
Hey Y'all, first time posting on here, so bear with me. I work with press and pat and all them, and we're starting to make our preparations for deployment. Thanks to everyone who has posted maps and tips, its sooo helpfull! Is there anyone in the affected areas who might have personal knowledge of some of these communities? and maybe the time to send me a WU-mail with your info so I can get an on the ground report? anyone who lives by there that wants to put your name down as a volunteer? we're hoping to have some teams rolling in around sunday to start figuring out where to place a kitchen, and if anyone has strong ties to a specific community that needs some help, and especially a church or community center where we might be able to locate a kitchen, or if you're in emergency response and would like us to come serve you some lunch, please please let me know!
once again, thank you all so much for your kindness and generosity and knowledge, and my heart goes out to everyone living through this right now. we're coming! and we're bringing lunch!


Welcome, we already heard good things about you. :) Sorry I can't help with your question though.
Quoting StormW:


I don't remember 30!


Howdy, Storm! Mrs. Flood, here...I'm so glad to finally meet you. Flood is one of your biggest fans! :)
Quoting KitchenGypsy:
Hey Y'all, first time posting on here, so bear with me. I work with press and pat and all them, and we're starting to make our preparations for deployment. Thanks to everyone who has posted maps and tips, its sooo helpfull! Is there anyone in the affected areas who might have personal knowledge of some of these communities? and maybe the time to send me a WU-mail with your info so I can get an on the ground report? anyone who lives by there that wants to put your name down as a volunteer? we're hoping to have some teams rolling in around sunday to start figuring out where to place a kitchen, and if anyone has strong ties to a specific community that needs some help, and especially a church or community center where we might be able to locate a kitchen, or if you're in emergency response and would like us to come serve you some lunch, please please let me know!
once again, thank you all so much for your kindness and generosity and knowledge, and my heart goes out to everyone living through this right now. we're coming! and we're bringing lunch!


Gypsy, I am not an overly religious man, but God bless you! By the way, welcome to wunderground! Anyone that is a friend of Pat or presslord is doubly welcome here
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:
Okay y'all, just to put a little more perspective on this age thing...Flood is possessed of a VERY chequered past, which accounts for his seemingly old age. I, however, didn't start acquiring such a past until MUCH later in life, and therefore am not so bad off for the wear and tear!

(Love you, baby, road miles notwithstanding!)


So Flood you have been rode "Hard & put up Wet".... mmmmmmm makes me wonder....
Quoting KitchenGypsy:
Is there anyone in the affected areas who might have personal knowledge of some of these communities? and maybe the time to send me a WU-mail with your info so I can get an on the ground report? anyone who lives by there that wants to put your name down as a volunteer?

We have a number of WU participants here that have been conspicuously absent for at least a few hours...

Methinks they have no power.
Quoting Orcasystems:


Umm correction.. that would be 50
wishful thinking on the 30

I'm not sure if I even remember being 30 :(


LOL...I was going to ask if you and SWMBO got married in the cradle!
Quoting StormW:


I don't remember 30!


I don't either, Storm...but I remember the hang over!

How are you sir?
Quoting atmoaggie:

Right. A slower buildup, but with levels rivaling Isabel, it is going to propagate inland and flood some folks. And with 2 days of rain swelling the rivers vs a moving TC, where the rain runoff comes downstream sometime after the peak surge, (usually) I don't know just how different this is going to be. I don't know. Little data.

The pics from this morning showed a bunch of areas with the water lapping at the door thresholds. The 6 PM peak was higher on the gauges, but the rain had abated, too. So tough to definitively say that more water was present at homes this afternoon than this morning (for which all of the pics are available).

Also tough to find a coastal VA topographical map that shows only the low areas without burying it in contours that include the hills and mountains (cannot see the 5 feet range when they are showing 0 to 2000).


That confirms what I was thinking. Yea there are already lots of people with flooded houses from what I've been reading. Just thinking about the difference between slowly rising waters vs the strength of surge like we've seen here.
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:
Okay y'all, just to put a little more perspective on this age thing...Flood is possessed of a VERY chequered past, which accounts for his seemingly old age. I, however, didn't start acquiring such a past until MUCH later in life, and therefore am not so bad off for the wear and tear!

(Love you, baby, road miles notwithstanding!)


It ain't the years, baby, it's the mileage...LOL
Quoting StormW:


Yea...I used to be 48.


Storm you have never been 48..... You skiped that year altogether... LMAO

But I am still trying to figure what did I do back in the 7o's...... Seems like a blur to me I think....

Taco :0)
Quoting StormW:


I don't remember 30!

I stopped at 29.

Now I just celebrate anniversaries of my 29th b-day.

Weird thing is I feel like I've been married longer than that...
Quoting taco2me61:


So Flood you have been rode "Hard & put up Wet".... mmmmmmm makes me wonder....


That's the rumour...I am neither confirmig nor denying the rumours of my past peccadilloes
Quoting atmoaggie:

We have a number of WU participants here that have been conspicuously absent for at least a few hours...

Methinks they have no power.


You are likely correct...
Quoting PcolaDan:


That confirms what I was thinking. Yea there are already lots of people with flooded houses from what I've been reading. Just thinking about the difference between slowly rising waters vs the strength of surge like we've seen here.

Yeah, prolly not many erased houses there, like Perdido or Garcon Point after Ivan. Different in that regard.
This storm is a monster... just got power backa gain... spooky listening to it at night...
604. KitchenGypsy -- aren't you a sweetheart!
You know, there were a lot of people, from the affected communities, posting on the blog yesterday. Then they all got quiet...I think about dinner time. My guess -- they went to get dinner and/or lost power. A couple of them mentioned internet connections were going in and out.
I don't suppose anyone with Portlight has time to review those posts. If any of them show up tomorrow, how will they be able to reach you while you're on the road? The Portlight blog?
Quoting StormW:


Doin' good flood...was gonna turn in, but decided I'm gonna have some dessert first.


Well, I am going to be hitting it myself in a few minutes; tomorrow will be a long day...

I'm still hoping to catch you at some watering hole or another in the greater Tampa area sometime soon, by the way
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
This storm is a monster... just got power backa gain... spooky listening to it at night...

Welcome back. Hope you are dry and your adobe is still comfortable.
Quoting Floodman:


It ain't the years, baby, it's the mileage...LOL


Exactly! :)
Quoting StormW:


:)
I was workin on the first year of my second enlistment in the CG at 29.

I am doing a lots of things at 29...cause I am staying put.
I'm here...gypsy and I have talked about 5 times tonight...btw...I'm tryin to marry her off to my son
Quoting PcolaDan:


That confirms what I was thinking. Yea there are already lots of people with flooded houses from what I've been reading. Just thinking about the difference between slowly rising waters vs the strength of surge like we've seen here.


heres what the thinking is down here... every time the surge gets pushed far in water is strugling very hard to retreat, so even if the surge is the same or even less it looks like more as there is more water to begin with. People are begining to become scared.. im 11 feet so i should be safe, but my road isnt passable at the moment. Most schools here have been canceled for tomorrow
Quoting StormW:


Uh oh! It's da boss!!!

Glad to meet you too!

Yeah...he's been speaking of coming down and having a liqu....I mean business lunch.


LOL - yes, he's looking forward to that business lunch! I hope y'all will get the opportunity soon.
Quoting atmoaggie:

Welcome back. Hope you are dry and your adobe is still comfortable.


why thank you haha, alot of clean up will be likely tomorrow. trees coming down all over the place now the ground can't hold anything in.
Quoting atmoaggie:

I am doing a lots of things at 29...cause I am staying put.


That's funny...until I screwed up my back, making me move like a man in his early nineties, I was 19 with several decades of experience...

That having been said, this nonegenarion is going to get some rest...to those of you under ex-Ida, rest as easy as you can; wishing the best for you all...see you folks in the AM!
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


heres what the thinking is down here... every time the surge gets pushed far in water is strugling very hard to retreat, so even if the surge is the same or even less it looks like more as there is more water to begin with. People are begining to become scared.. im 11 feet so i should be safe, but my road isnt passable at the moment. Most schools here have been canceled for tomorrow


Been watching the live blog on www.wavy.com, yea lots of scared people.
anyone see my post.
Quoting taco2me61:


So Flood you have been rode "Hard & put up Wet".... mmmmmmm makes me wonder....


LOL! OMG, translation puh-leez as I have been recently pronounced a Yankee and do not understand. Gutter-brat is more like where my head is...shame on this Nana.

You mean "put up with"?

!
btw I stopped counting after 1 because I didn't know how old I was.
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


LOL! OMG, translation puh-leez

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
Well, Wundergroup, it's been so great to finally meet all of you, and I thank you again for the warm welcome. I look forward to getting to know everyone and learning more about the weather.

To all those being affected by the nor'easter, our prayers are with you. Stay safe!!

Flood, I know you won't go to bed unless I go first so...G'night, all! :)
I didn’t know what a Nor’easter was when I moved from Mississippi to Virginia. But I’ll tell ya, these things are mean. TS Ida appears to have been a puppy when compared to the Nor’easter Ida-ex. Hampton Roads is flooded, my friends down there are wigging. One friend, who lives at least 12 feet in elevation, had to park a block from his “Villa”, which is three streets from the beach, in VA Beach because his street was flooded and not from surge. Tidewater Virginia is getting it bad. I think the beaches will have to be rebuilt, again, since I saw footage of waves crashing on the Boardwalk. In Richmond, it’s been miserable for two days, rain, more rain, wind, more wind - with a temperature in the 40's. Damn, these Nor’easters are tough! I’m concerned about the newscasts I will see tomorrow. A lot of land has been submerged.
Quoting ElConando:
anyone see my post.

Nope. (Really, did not see a post of yours before this one.)
Quoting StormW:


Prayers are with all of you up that way.

I know it's gotta be a mess...was stationed up that way quite a few years on and off. Had to deal with David back in '79. I was up all night keeping pumps running to keep our substation at the base dry.


we have drainage lakes and they were doing a wonderful job but 9 inches is just to much for them lol. they have failed and just become part of the ocean haha
maryland: I promise, I'm really not. ask press.
as far as getting in touch with me, WU-mail me saying you've got answers to my questions and leave your number, and I'll give you a call. I figured folks with answers might not have power, so I'll probably end up posting that same message a few times, sorry in advance for the repetition.
this is the time for everyone to raid their phone book though. even if you're not in the area, think of the people you may know that are, we'd love to come help them. any community organizations, or even your church. the first phase of disaster response is networking! lets get creative, so we can go help some people!
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


LOL! OMG, translation puh-leez


No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
This storm is a monster... just got power backa gain... spooky listening to it at night...

Oh good, we were just talkin' about youse guys, in a nice way. Please read #604 and see what you think or if you have any suggestions.
Hey Flood its not the past mileage but the "Million" more you too have in front of you.... Enjoy evry mile as it comes, thats the best part....

Taco :0)

NEXRAD Radar
Norfolk, Storm Total Surface Rainfall Accumulation Range 124 NMI

Quoting atmoaggie:

Nope. (Really, did not see a post of yours before this one.)


I'm invisible no longer!!!

Erm. anyway, of my posts about 1 1/2 ago I explained that I believed that if the remnants of Ida counted for the total damage Ida has wrought, there would be a decent chance at retirement.
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:
Well, Wundergroup, it's been so great to finally meet all of you, and I thank you again for the warm welcome. I look forward to getting to know everyone and learning more about the weather.

To all those being affected by the nor'easter, our prayers are with you. Stay safe!!

Flood, I know you won't go to bed unless I go first so...G'night, all! :)

Good night, 'twas and 'tis a pleasure.
Quoting LongStrangeTrip:
Well, Wundergroup, it's been so great to finally meet all of you, and I thank you again for the warm welcome. I look forward to getting to know everyone and learning more about the weather.

To all those being affected by the nor'easter, our prayers are with you. Stay safe!!

Flood, I know you won't go to bed unless I go first so...G'night, all! :)


It was nice to meet you too Have a great nite....
Long...God bless you...
Quoting taco2me61:
Hey Flood its not the past mileage but the "Million" more you too have in front of you.... Enjoy evry mile as it comes, thats the best part....

Taco :0)


Awwww...well said, Taco. For me, every mile with Flood is better than 10,000 with anyone else! And with that, I'm out...g'night, again!
Quoting ElConando:


I'm invisible no longer!!!

Erm. anyway, of my posts about 1 1/2 ago I explained that I believed that if the remnants of Ida counted for the total damage Ida has wrought, there would be a decent chance at retirement.

I guess that partly depends on whether or not all of the El Salvador fatalities are attributed to her...though they had a lot more to do with EP96(?)
Pat: you've got mail
OK gang...I suppose I need my beauty rest...thanks for every word of input...
and there goes a tree!! dang that sound scares me...
K-Gypsy -- post and re-post, no problem.
We have the power of the "Flag Admin" button if any one bellyaches, LOL, ohhhhhh the power has just gone to my head, as if.
who am i sending the email too?
One last thing, a quote by CS Lewis:

Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: "What! You, too? Thought I was the only one."

Good night, friends!
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
and there goes a tree!! dang that sound scares me...

That ain't cool...
VAbeach...any first hand info can come to me...Thanks!!
VABeach: you can send it to me, send your contact info and I'll give you a call tommorow, if that works for ya. hope you're staying safe
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
who am i sending the email too?


(What email is that? - answered by others never mind) And yea, trees falling outside the house are real scary.
Quoting Floodman:
One last thing, a quote by CS Lewis:

Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: "What! You, too? Thought I was the only one."

Good night, friends!


Good Nite Flood and Have a good rest my friend....

Taco :0)
or gypsy
press, are we gonna fight over VAbeach? lol
There it is. The wind isn't letting the low tide go ahead and fall like it should. (See the 2 red "X"s almost on top of each other near the end of the reds) And the result is that the forecast is well below the observations.

May or may not exceed this afternoon's water levels at 6 AM. Forecast says no, but forecast was between 0.5 and 1 foot lower than obs today.

This is the middle of the bay bridge-tunnel:


And at Sewells Point (this is representative of Norfolk flooding):
I'm too old and tired to argue ; )
Quoting atmoaggie:
There it is. The wind isn't letting the low tide go ahead and fall like it should. (See the 2 red "X"s almost on top of each other near the end of the reds) And the result is that the forecast is well below the observations.

May or may not exceed this afternoon's water levels at 6 AM. Forecast says no, but forecast was between 0.5 and 1 foot lower than obs today.

This is the middle of the bay bridge-tunnel:


And at Sewells Point (this is representative of Norfolk flooding):


I am sorry to say they will be much higer than that :(.
and press mail
Quoting KitchenGypsy:
press, are we gonna fight over VAbeach? lol



Uh oh sorry i sent it to press ;) you want a copy of it?
Quoting StormW:


Any word near Culpepper? My sis lives there.



From what I have heard they should be fine, have not heard any bad news from there.
Dan, you are killing me. Smothering laughter, hubby asleep on couch, snoring...

Good night all. Hey, you guyz across the river -- Stay safe and that means getting in a place where trees won't hit you. Please.

Yeah, that isn't good. We are at low tide, yet this low tide did not fall to levels as low as the previous low tide, though it should have been more (look at the green line-astronomical tide range).
The 6 AM high tide will have had a head start in water levels without the low tide doing it's thing. The key is the wind-drive surge, here. If the forecast timing is off and the wind abates completely...now or very soon...then the peak observed levels could still be the forecast peak or lower.
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


I am sorry to say they will be much higer than that :(.
and press mail


I think so too...I would love to disagree and we could have a shouting match instead, but...
Quoting atmoaggie:
Yeah, that isn't good. We are at low tide, yet this low tide did not fall to levels as low as the previous low tide, though it should have been more (look at the green line-astronomical tide range).
The 6 AM high tide will have had a head start in water levels without the low tide doing it's thing. The key is the wind-drive surge, here. If the forecast timing is off and the wind abates completely...now or very soon...then the peak observed levels could still be the forecast peak or lower.


low isnt moving as quickly as planned, im still getting rocked by winds...
Ok everyone have a good nite and please be "Safe" ot there, for the ones in VA and NC....

Taco :0)
Okay, I don't get the "adjustment" made in the plots in post 680 in the last few minutes...

Obs were well over the forecast water levels and now tracking right along with it? Odd.
I still think the prediction is low, though. We'll see at wake-up time. L8R.
Quoting atmoaggie:

I guess that partly depends on whether or not all of the El Salvador fatalities are attributed to her...though they had a lot more to do with EP96(?)


They are attributed to EP96 so on second thought maybe not. Which isn't a bad thing at all eh?
WHOO HOO! Know I said good night, BUT:

Hadn't checked my e-mail this afternoon, and

Got a "Please Stand By to Stand By" to go out for post-disaster recovery work.

Would be a hell of a way to meet some WU bloggers. Just wanted to tell somebody. Too late to call gal pals. Thanks.
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
WHOO HOO! Know I said good night, BUT:

Hadn't checked my e-mail this afternoon, and

Got a "Please Stand By to Stand By" to go out for post-disaster recovery work.

Would be a hell of a way to meet some WU bloggers. Just wanted to tell somebody. Too late to call gal pals. Thanks.


And good night again (whoo hoo'ing myself anyway, don't care, hap-pee.)
Good nite from obx. It is eerily quiet right now. Nice meeting you all.
hay Storm W-- I am on the east coast Its 55 and droping..how about you? Iam cold!!!
696. 789
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


And good night again (whoo hoo'ing myself anyway, don't care, hap-pee.)
do you responed red cross
Just got up and checked the winds they have dropped off but still around 30 knots. They are starting to nudge more to the NNE over the bay. That should help keep the water level from gaining too much additional ground from a tidal standpoint. Once the wind goes to the west side of north then the tidal flooding will back off. It will still take at least one full cycle to get back to normal. Maybe two, lot's of water out there.
000
WTNT31 KWNH 130857
TCPAT1

PUBLIC ADVISORY NUMBER 38 FOR REMNANTS OF IDA
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD AL112009
400 AM EST FRI NOV 13 2009

...MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINS CONTINUE ALONG THE MID ATLANTIC
COAST...

FLOOD WATCHES...WARNINGS...AND ADVISORIES REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR
PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. AND THE MID-ATLANTIC. HIGH
WIND...GALE...AND STORM WARNINGS ARE ALSO IN EFFECT ALONG COASTAL
REGIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC.

FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE WATCHES
AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV.

AT 400 AM EST...0900 UTC...THE CENTER OF REMNANTS OF IDA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 34.7 NORTH...AND LONGITUDE 75.8 WEST...OR 35
MILES...60 KM...SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA AND 75
MILES...80 KM...EAST OF MOOREHEAD CITY NORTH CAROLINA.

DURING THE DAY ON FRIDAY...THE SURFACE LOW WILL SLOWLY TRACK
EASTWARD AWAY FROM THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 40 MPH...65 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 994 MB...29.36 INCHES.

(Selected Storm Total Rainfall excluded)

ADDITIONAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG
THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST AND OVER SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND.

...SUMMARY OF 400 AM EST INFORMATION...
LOCATION...34.7N 75.8W
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH
PRESENT MOVEMENT...SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OR 205 DEGREES AT 9 MPH
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...994 MB

THE NEXT ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM WILL BE ISSUED BY THE
HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER AT 1000 AM EST. PLEASE REFER
TO YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE FOR FURTHER
INFORMATION ON THIS STORM.

GERHARDT

FORECAST POSITIONS
INITIAL 13/0900Z 34.7N 75.8W
12HR VT 13/1800Z 34.2N 74.6W...EXTRATROPICAL
24HR VT 14/0600Z 34.0N 72.6W...EXTRATROPICAL
36HR VT 14/1800Z 33.2N 70.8W...EXTRATROPICAL
$$
LOCATION PEAK WIND GUST (MPH

CBBV2 (CHESAPEAKE BAY BRIDGE TUNNEL VA) 71 (800 PM EST)
CHYV2 (CAPE HENRY VA) 72 (543 PM EST)
YKRV2 (YORK RIVER LIGHT VA) 66 (506 PM EST)
KORF (NORFOLK VA) 74 (611 PM EST)
RPLV2 (RAPPAHANNOCK LIGHT VA) 60 (230 PM EST)
KWAL (WALLOPS ISLAND VA) 59 (758 PM EST)
WAHV2 (WACHAPREAGUE VA) 57 (600 PM EST)
KNTU (OCEANA VA) 75 (614 PM EST)
KOXB (OCEAN CITY MD) 56 (1215 PM EST)
KECG (ELIZABETH CITY NC) 54 (204 PM EST)
OCIM2 (OCEAN CITY INLET MD 44 (848 AM EST)
44009 (15NM E OF FENWICK IS DE) 62 (400 PM EST)
DUKN7 (DUCK PIER NC) 53 (1012 AM EST)

Currently without power here in Norfolk, been running on Generator since about 5 pm last night.
G'morning all.

Well, DocMaster's kept saying all Season™, that there'd be an event that needed a response.

Hate to wish he was wrong...but I wish he had been wrong.

post 699- you gotta be kiddin' me. No way, not more.
Good Morning. OMG it is early but somebody has to wake up the rooster. Shaping out to be a great W/E here. What happens when you have lots of mileage and years? Never mind I remember as look into my medicine chest. Looks like my grandmothers.
703. IKE
70 more TWO's after this one and.....it's over.
426 hours...
20 minutes left...


TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
700 AM EST FRI NOV 13 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BERG
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION


DAYS 2/3...

...NORTHEAST...

THE MODELS AGREE IN GRADUALLY TAKING THE DEEP LOW INVOF THE NC
OUTER-BANKS EWD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS...AWAY FROM THE EAST
COAST. HOWEVER...SUFFICIENT MID/UPR LVL ENERGY ASSOC WITH THE DEEP
LYR CYC WILL ADVECT NWD UP ALONG THE NRN MID-ATL AND NEW ENGLAND
COAST TO GENERATE A WELL-DEFINED INVERTED TROF AND POSSIBLY A NEW
SFC LOW
. THIS SHOULD PROMOTE AN INFLUX OF DEEP ATLANTIC MOISTURE
ACROSS NEW ENG WITH A THREAT OF MDT TO LOCALLY HVY RAINFALL
AMTS...ESP ALONG THE COAST. HPC QPF GENERALLY FOLLOWED A BLEND OF
THE NAM/GFS WHOSE MASS FIELDS WERE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT
THROUGHOUT THE PERIOD.


list of abbreviations and acronyms
good morning welcome to the new age where hurricane season never ends
Rain has stopped, still breezy with some gusts. Rain gauge 4.5 inches. Hopefully we are done. Post 699-wht is that?? Looks pretty scary.
rich surfers from all over the world are converging on the leeward islands for movies and photo shoots 456 wax up
@699
Not sure how accurate that will be but definetly worth watching.
Quoting leftovers:
rich surfers from all over the world are converging on the leeward islands for movies and photo shoots 456 wax up


Going to have some great photo's in the surf mags in a month.
Can't say I enjoyed any of Ida's waves here on the Gulf - the Menfolk had fun w/her - had one okay day on Monday -- but I came out with a "buckled" board : (
The winds have FINALLY laid down..
Spring Lake NJ @ 0700
Winds still out of the NE here. Rain picked up before dawn. Waves still look about 8 ft with 4-5 sec. period. Sand continues to migrate with the wind over existing dunes and Ocean Ave. Photos to follow.

Link below attempts to show back bay water ponding due to consistent winds. Very powerful model.

http://hudson.dl.stevens-tech.edu/maritimeforecast/PRESENT/index.shtml

good morning all :)
Quoting futuremet:
hmmm....


Looks to me like the PAC NW has more to worry about...srn Vancouver Island and the Olympics of WA...10" of rain in 3 days starting Sat night...that's a lot of rain even for those locations.
Good morning from the Outer Banks OBX - NC-12 is closed in spots from Buxton to Hatteras, the closures appear to be the result of overwash and scouring. There are no reported breaches of NC-12. Officials are determining when the road will reopen, but are not giving any timeframe yet. North of Oregon Inlet, 158 is open from
Whalebone to MP Zero, the Wright Memorial Bridge. NC-12 in this area, known as the Beach road is spotty with sections closed. Haven't heard of any other homes falling into the ocean yet. South Nags Head, the most threatened of areas hasn't announced whether access to this area will be restricted today.
What are we hearing from the NC and Va Coast?
from WAVY:

The sheriff’s office was evacuating some residents in the Gloucester Point area this evening. I got a call from a viewer that said that a lot of people had 3-4 feet of water in their home in the Guinea Neck section of Gloucester County. We have about 160,000 people without power in southeast Virginia. I’ve seen probably 20-30 instances of cars flooded. I’m sure there were 10 times that, but I have no proof. We are getting reports from just about everywhere of tidal flooding being on the the same level (roughly) as Isabel. Some residents had a little more, some a little less this evening. You have to remember that the rain around the region was a lot, but varied from place to place. This rain is significant when you add it to the tidal flooding. Also, different folks may have leaves or other debris clogging their storm drains. The winds are finally beginning to taper off tonight as of 9:30pm. The winds won’t die off completely overnight. They’ll stay up through the day tomorrow too, but will be more in the 15-20mph range with gusts to 25 maybe 35mph.

Got some wrap around rain to make the commute this morning miserable, but that's about it here in New Bern. 6-7" later, everything's pretty soggy. The parking lot is a No Wake Zone.
Local school closing:

Washington County Schools: Closed Friday - Makeup Day Saturday


I'm sure attendance will be high.


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TS BUSTED FORECAST, to be used in the event you make a minor discrepancy in your forecast.
At the Bay Bridge Tunnel thay had a record tide hight of 7.61 ft this morning. Also a report of 162,000 with out power in this article. Also some video.

HAMPDON ROADS, VA
Quoting presslord:
What are we hearing from the NC and Va Coast?

Presslord see 715 for update as of 8am est. Some other news, schools in Dare County (the OBX) and some of the mainland, Currituck County (includes main highway from OBX to Norfolk area) are closed today. Pretty much all schools around Norfolk area are closed.
Quoting presslord:
What are we hearing from the NC and Va Coast?


May not be as bad as feared. Not seeing a lot of news about flooding in homes.

But...
"As feared, the Nor'easter brought a significant amount of water onshore in Poquoson.

This morning, Poquoson City Manager Randy Wheeler said reports were received last night of homes with water inside, but officials have not yet been able to fully assess damage within the city."

http://www.dailypress.com/news/weather/dp-now-weather-update.nov13,0,357943.story
This is the only mention of some confirmation of water in homes from an official. I am certain there are more to come, but how many, I dunno.
Going out now to check local environs for about an hour, will take a quick glance at the ocean, where nc-12 splits with 158 and heads north to Duck. BTW, NC-12 through Duck is open, but with standing water is spots.
Oh, and if you guys go, they might get militant if you pronounce their town name wrong.

Poqouson is pa-KO-sen.
728. P451
Good Morning. Long Branch NJ 745am. 8-12 footers. I'm standing about 10' above the surf on a seawall so the camera is about 15' above the surf. It's a cheap camera so the perspective is off - the surf is bigger than it seems.

3 minute video

729. P451
So overall we had some damaged traffic lights, some large tree limbs down (weakened ones no doubt) and some moderate coastal flooding (some coastal routes were closed and most were overtopped with sand and surf.
Summer is definitely over :(

WIND WARNING: Greater Victoria Issued at 5:55 AM PST FRIDAY 13 NOVEMBER 2009

SOUTHERLY WINDS TO 90 KM/H ARE OVER THE NORTHERN SECTION OF EAST VANCOUVER ISLAND, VICTORIA AND SOUTHERN GOLF ISLAND THIS MORNING. NORTHWESTERLY WINDS TO 70 KM/H ARE EXPECTED OVER VANCOUVER ISLAND AND SUNSHINE COAST THIS MORNING. THIS IS A WARNING THAT POTENTIALLY DAMAGING WINDS ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING IN THESE REGIONS. MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS..LISTEN FOR UPDATED STATEMENTS.
A COLD FRONT IS CROSSING VANCOUVER ISLAND. SOUTHERLY WINDS TO 90 KM/H AHEAD OF THE FRONT CONTINUE IN THE EAST VANCOUVER ISLAND, VICTORIA AND SOUTHERN GOLF ISLAND THIS MORNING. NORTHWESTERLY WINDS OF 70 KM/H IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT ARE FORECAST TO DEVELOP THIS MORNING OVER VANCOUVER ISLAND AND SUNSHINE COAST. THE NORTHWESTERLY WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO EASE IN THE AFTERNOON.
Even though this thing is expected to move east out to sea,its going to set up a pretty good flow off the Atlantic for us here in southern New England to give us a good 1-3 inches of rain.Nothing like the mid-atlantic,but still a pretty miserable day tomorrow here in eastern Mass and the cape and islands.
On my way to work.
Dominion Electric is reporting 156,439 accounts still without power.
Last night, we were calculating at an average of 3 people per account, which would mean ~450,000 individuals.
Quoting P451:
Good Morning. Long Branch NJ 745am. 8-12 footers. I'm standing about 10' above the surf on a seawall so the camera is about 15' above the surf. It's a cheap camera so the perspective is off - the surf is bigger than it seems.

3 minute video



Judging by the cresting waves way offshore I BELIEVE YOUR ESTIMATION!! Nice shot and nice update.
Quoting P451:
So overall we had some damaged traffic lights, some large tree limbs down (weakened ones no doubt) and some moderate coastal flooding (some coastal routes were closed and most were overtopped with sand and surf.

I lived in Rumson and Sea Bright during the late 50s and early 60s and remember well the storms and hurricanes that hit the area. I had a huge tree in our backyard that was uprooted but my treehouse lived thru it! I started surfing the after-surf of these storms in the 60s so your updates really bring back the memories. Thanks again! And keep up the good work!
good mornin all! alright, I warned you last night that I'd be reposting this:
as far as getting in touch with me, WU-mail me saying you've got answers to my questions and leave your number, and I'll give you a call. this is the time for everyone to raid their phone book! even if you're not in the area, think of the people you may know that are, we'd love to come help them. any community organizations, or even your church. the first phase of disaster response is networking! lets get creative, so we can go help some people!
736. P451
Quoting StormW:


May not bee too far fetched...Global Models and forecast steering yesterday supported that scenario...somewhat


If it did this...would anyone be surprised given what we've witnessed the past 7 days? I sure wouldn't. I would practically expect it at this point. Ida is a fighter like none other.

737. P451
Quoting overthehillsurfer:

I lived in Rumson and Sea Bright during the late 50s and early 60s and remember well the storms and hurricanes that hit the area. I had a huge tree in our backyard that was uprooted but my treehouse lived thru it! I started surfing the after-surf of these storms in the 60s so your updates really bring back the memories. Thanks again! And keep up the good work!


Cool. I grew up in Rumson as well 30 years ago. I'm going to send you some pictures of the area in WU Mail.

739. P451
PUBLIC ADVISORY NUMBER 39 FOR REMNANTS OF IDA
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD AL112009
1000 AM EST FRI NOV 13 2009

...RAINS FADING AWAY ALONG THE MID ATLANTIC COAST...

FLOOD WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
CENTRAL GULF COAST...THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S....AND THE MID-ATLANTIC
STATES. HIGH WIND...GALE...AND STORM WARNINGS ARE ALSO IN EFFECT
ALONG COASTAL REGIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES.

FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE WATCHES
AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV.

AT 1000 AM EST...1500 UTC...THE CENTER OF REMNANTS OF IDA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 34.0 NORTH...AND LONGITUDE 74.7 WEST...OR 90
MILES...145 KM...SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA AND
110 MILES...175 KM...EAST-SOUTHEAST OF MOREHEAD CITY NORTH
CAROLINA.

DURING THE DAY TODAY THE SURFACE LOW WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE
SOUTHEASTWARD AWAY FROM THE COAST OF THE CAROLINAS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 65 MPH...105 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 995 MB...29.39 INCHES.

Quoting P451:


If it did this...would anyone be surprised given what we've witnessed the past 7 days? I sure wouldn't. I would practically expect it at this point. Ida is a fighter like none other.



WOW! That would be some kind of scenario, huh? Let's hope not for the sake of the currently afflicted areas. They don't need a repeat performance!
741. P451
SELECTED STORM TOTAL RAINFALL IN INCHES THROUGH 7 AM EST

...ALABAMA...
OPELIKA 11 S 9.83
CENTREVILLE 6SW 6.35
WARRIOR LOCK AND DAM 6.15
SEALE 3ESE 5.81
CLANTON 5.69

...WASHINGTON, DC...
WASHINGTON/NATIONAL 1.54
WASHINGTON 3ENE 1.41
WASHINGTON 7NW 1.39

...DELAWARE...
GREENWOOD 2.9 SE 3.97
DOVER 6.4 WNW 3.19
SMYRNA 2.7 SSE 2.99
GEORGETOWN/SUSSEX CO. ARPT 2.84
LEWES 7.2 S 2.03

...FLORIDA...
GONZALEZ 2.5 NNW 6.78
LAKELAND 1.5 W 5.75
CRESTVIEW/BOB SIKES 4.53
PENSACOLA RGNL ARPT 4.08
DE FUNIAK SPRINGS 12WNW 4.02

...GEORGIA...
COLUMBUS 15NW 7.25
WOODBURY 6.95
ATLANTA 5.98
WEST POINT 5.84
ATLANTA 4N-PEACHTREE CREEK 5.72
TALBOTTON 5.70

...MARYLAND...
GREAT MILLS 7.10
LEONARDTOWN 0.6 NE 5.99
RIDGE 1.0 N 5.58
HOLLYWOOD 1.5 NW 5.58
PATUXENT RIVER NAS 5.31
PARK HALL 0.2 SW 5.01

...NORTH CAROLINA ...
SWANSBORO 3.3 NW 9.51
SNEADS FERRY 1.5 S 8.76
NEWPORT 0.2 SW 8.45
JAMES CITY 0.3 SSE 7.77
SURF CITY 7.55
WASHINGTON 2NW 7.30
NEW BERN 7.25
HAVELOCK 1.8 W 7.12
GREENSBORO 6.59
JACKSONVILLE 3NE 6.50

...NEW JERSEY...
LINWOOD 0.7 SSW 2.60
LOWER TWP 2.2 NE 2.22
UPPER TWP 3.2 SE 2.18
WOODBINE 0.8 NNW 2.06
MIDDLE TWP 4.4 SW 2.04

...SOUTH CAROLINA...
LORIS 1S 6.59
CLARKS HILL 2W 6.18
WALHALLA 1.5 NW 5.57
POMARIA 4 N 5.42
NEWBERRY 5.08
CLEVELAND 4S 5.08
TABLE ROCK DAM 5.03
GALIVANTS FERRY 5.01
MULLINS 4W 4.90
NORTH MYRTLE BEACH 4.89


..VIRGINIA...
CHESAPEAKE 3.5 NE 11.92
HAMPTON 8.1 W 11.86
SUFFOLK 13.3 NE 10.98
LANGLEY AFB 10.58
OCEANA NAS/SOUCEK 10.29

NEWPORT NEWS 5.8 NE 9.76
JONES CREEK IFLOWS 9.12
POOR MTN. IFLOWS 8.88
PORTSMOUTH 4.1 SSE 8.66
NORFOLK NAS 8.47
P451,lets hope that scenario doesn't come to pass,last thing the people on the east coast need is an encore performance.
Just what we need... more rain...

Oh hell no, that isn't going to happen. That shows really tight isobars over us in about 1 weeks time. That's when I fly out on my honeymoon daggumit!
If that happened, you could be looking at Floyd-Lite like flooding in eastern NC. Lets hope not.
Quoting hurricanejunky:


WOW! That would be some kind of scenario, huh? Let's hope not for the sake of the currently afflicted areas. They don't need a repeat performance!



He He. IDA is poised to make as big of difference she can, somewhere somehow. Like you, it would not surprise me a bit.
I'm to be on a call with Glocester County and Poqouson Town officials shortly...just spoke with Poqouson Town manager briefly....much flooding...tho receding...and wide spread power outages...
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
Just what we need... more rain...



hey vabeach, your from yorktown?...hows glouchester point fairing?...i heard they were having to evacuate some people from Gloucester county this am...reason i ask is i got a hard headed grandfather who lives on his 42' sailboat down at one of the small marinas in Gloucester county...and i haven't heard a word from him this week...i might be making a trip down there today if he doesn't get in touch with me before noon today...
749. P451
Quoting watchingnva:


hey vabeach, your from yorktown?...hows glouchester point fairing?...i heard they were having to evacuate some people from Gloucester county this am...reason i ask is i got a hard headed grandfather who lives on his 42' sailboat down at one of the small marinas in Gloucester county...and i haven't heard a word from him this week...i might be making a trip down there today if he doesn't get in touch with me before noon today...



there was pretty bad flooding up there at gloucester point, but the winds probably didn't get above 35-40 knots so if he was anchored down in the dock, he should be ok.
A question just came to me pertaining to the Chesapeake Bay and Delaware Bay with the high tides and winds. Would this have any affect on the saline content of the upper portion of the bays.
Quoting P451:


half of my neighborhood is out...
Quoting lawntonlookers:
A question just came to me pertaining to the Chesapeake Bay and Delaware Bay with the high tides and winds. Would this have any affect on the saline content of the upper portion of the bays.



yes, it would make the percentage higher, but you have to remember alot of fresh rain water is also running off into the bay therefore the change will be neglegable
Quoting lawntonlookers:
A question just came to me pertaining to the Chesapeake Bay and Delaware Bay with the high tides and winds. Would this have any affect on the saline content of the upper portion of the bays.


Some of these bouys have salinity, you can monitor them, such as this one.
Good Morning all,
I know this is not the current AOI but one of the Turks and Caicos PWS has a very low pressure reading..:
28.9 °C
Scattered Clouds
Humidity: 78%
Dew Point: 24 °C
Wind: 20.9 km/h / 5.8 m/s from the SSW
Wind Gust: 27.4 km/h
Pressure: 1006.7 hPa (Steady)
Heat Index: 34 °C
Tides are still running 4 to 5 feet above normal. Even though they say the water is retreating I think it is just tidal. Except for a foot or so off of peak, I think the water will come back on the next high tide in about 7 hours. Glouster Poquoson and Fox Hill. The Norfolk, Va. Beach, Suffolk side of the bay will see much of the same.

With the storm center looking to drift SE the chances of a quick drawdown from NW winds isn't going to happen.

Up here on the Chickahominy river high tide is just peaking and the water is just as high as the last. Heard they evacuated portions of one neighborhood just down river last night. Diascund creek over flowed and closed Rt 60. That hasn't happened in about 15 years, even Isabel didn't do it.
Quoting outdrsmn:
Tides are still running 4 to 5 feet above normal. Even though they say the water is retreating I think it is just tidal. Except for a foot or so off of peak, I think the water will come back on the next high tide in about 7 hours. Glouster Poquoson and Fox Hill. The Norfolk, Va. Beach, Suffolk side of the bay will see much of the same.

With the storm center looking to drift SE the chances of a quick drawdown from NW winds isn't going to happen.

Up here on the Chickahominy river high tide is just peaking and the water is just as high as the last. Heard they evacuated portions of one neighborhood just down river last night. Diascund creek over flowed and closed Rt 60. That hasn't happened in about 15 years, even Isabel didn't do it.


isabel wasnt much of a rain maker though, but the tidal flooding can be compared, its incredible.
That thing (ex-Ida) is CRAZY. Looks like it's starting to wrap convection back around the COC again. What is the model consensus right now? The Hydromet issued the last advisory. Why is that? Will it go back to NHC if it gets back down toward FL and could it revert back to warm core or is that even possible?


anyone know how to read this map... tell me how much wind is in this band?
The hydromet is showing 65 mph winds and 995mb pressure. Sounds like it's strengthening and moving SE. Hmmm
Quoting P451:


If it did this...would anyone be surprised given what we've witnessed the past 7 days? I sure wouldn't. I would practically expect it at this point. Ida is a fighter like none other.



The mid Atlantic would be under water.
Quoting ElConando:


The mid Atlantic would be under water.



the erosion that this current storm did, if it cycled around the water could go miles inland...
Quoting StormW:


That's SRM or Storm Relative Motion doppler channel. Also known as Storm Relative Velocity. One of the main tools we use to detect MESO's and TVS. Green shows winds blowing inbound to the radar site, reds and oranges show winds outbound from the radar site.

Generally, where deep or bright reds, and greens or blue are touching side by side, this indicates counterclockwise rotation in a relatively small area.


thanks :), can it be used to tell how strong straight line winds are? like could this band knock down more trees?
Quoting StormW:


That looks like SRM or Storm Relative Motion doppler channel. Also known as Storm Relative Velocity. One of the main tools we use to detect MESO's and TVS. Green shows winds blowing inbound to the radar site, reds and oranges show winds outbound from the radar site.

Generally, where deep or bright reds, and greens or blue are touching side by side, this indicates counterclockwise rotation in a relatively small area.

It would help out a little better to know if that is SRM or Radial Velocity channel.


and it is the base radial velocity channel
767. P451
Virginia to New England: Look at the northern side of this storm. Convection deepening and rotating into the coast. If it holds together it could prove to be a very nasty day from SE Virginia to SE Mass.

12 HR IR LOOP

768. P451
Quoting ElConando:


The mid Atlantic would be under water.


Half of it already is.

This system, just like Hurricane Ida herself, looks like she's putting on a new burst of intensification after seemingly winding down for a bit.

Quoting P451:
Virginia to New England: Look at the northern side of this storm. Convection deepening and rotating into the coast. If it holds together it could prove to be a very nasty day from SE Virginia to SE Mass.

12 HR IR LOOP



looks like a strengthening storm to me... and where do you get the 12hr loops from p?
770. P451
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


looks like a strengthening storm to me... and where do you get the 12hr loops from p?



http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/


You can get up to 48 hours. They're pretty systems intensive though.

Once you're on one of the 12hr loop pages, at the bottom are multiple pulldown menus to up it to 48.

Be prepared to wait..a couple of minutes for such to load and play.

771. P451
WV - Still Image

772. P451
Think the scope of this thing is big enough? It pretty much ran over what's left of 98L.

Quoting P451:



http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/


You can get up to 48 hours. They're pretty systems intensive though.

Once you're on one of the 12hr loop pages, at the bottom are multiple pulldown menus to up it to 48.

Be prepared to wait..a couple of minutes for such to load and play.



thanks :)
774. P451
Bermuda Radar

New Blog
What a perfect XtraTropical system x IDA is ...she is trying to wrap some around the center. Incredible storm.

OUTER BANKS BEATING Tropical Update
Quoting PcolaDan:


50 hmm it'll come to me ... 50, when was that


Non-weather related image. BAN! (I mean come on, my images are always at least relevant to the discussion and i've been banned twice, like a plate of crow at this storm's landfall, but he's permitted to post annoying animated smileys?)
Quoting P451:


If it did this...would anyone be surprised given what we've witnessed the past 7 days? I sure wouldn't. I would practically expect it at this point. Ida is a fighter like none other.



ida is hurricane screw it lets just trash florida again! (Omg if i get banned for this I'll... I mean this is an image about hurricanes. I dunno where the mods draw their lines, and how they have no souls to understand non-weather images to make simple humor.)

NE-wxguy --get up off the floor for a few seconds--also floodman hear ye hear ye hear ye yesterday at about 5-30 pm a hp was put over viginia city pressure was under 995. 6-7 hrs later, pressure was 999.9. also virginia bch reported--no rain--overcast---also goes east showed it clearing. this morning was even
better. i am confident that you are both
honorable men--so you , please check it out
and you tell me what happened. note--in the
8 yrs that i have been involved in weather
modification- (EXCEPT IN BERTHA WHEN THE WEATHER MAN SAID--I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ANYMORE--THIS STORM DEFIES REASON) I have never had a weatherman,who did not have a reason, why something that should have
happened, did not happen. remember that!
ps--when you are ready--and i can break free--
time wise--if you are interested--i will give
you the reason why bertha was the longest
lasting hurricane, on record for that time of
year---i have about 130+ pages of documentation, on bertha,that i did myself.
you will find it very interesting by for now
Posted 10 pictures from Ida-ex.