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Heavy snows fall from Chicago to Virginia

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:32 PM GMT on March 06, 2013

An intensifying winter storm has moved off the coast of Virginia this morning, and will bring heavy rain and snow, strong winds, and coastal flooding to most of the Mid-Atlantic and New England coast over the next two days. Rain is mixing with snow in the Washington D.C. area, where 4 - 8" of snow is expected today, down from earlier forecasts of 8 - 12". According to The Capital Weather Gang, today's snowstorm needs at least 6.6" of accumulation to crack the top-ten list for biggest March snowstorms in D.C.; the biggest March snowstorm in D.C. history was 12" on March 27 - 28, 1891. Snowfall amounts of up to 15" have already fallen in western Virginia near Shenandoah National Park, as of 10 am EST Wednesday, and thundersnow was reported near Richmond, Virginia. Snowfall amounts of 12" were observed at Valparaiso, Indiana on Tuesday, and Chicago is digging out from 9.2"--the biggest March snow in Chicago in a calendar day since 11.5" fell on March 2, 1954. Chicago is now close to average for snowfall for the winter, since the city had a snow drought through most of December and January. The ratio of snow to liquid water ranged from 9:1 to 13:1 in the Chicago area, close to the typical 10:1 snow to liquid water snow the Midwest sees.


Figure 1. Satellite image of Winter Storm Saturn/Snowquester at 9:31 am EST March 6, 2013. Image credit: NASA.


Figure 2. Predicted snowfall amounts from Winter Storm Saturn (AKA Snowquester) from the NWS.

Coastal flooding a concern in the Mid-Atlantic and New England
This storm is going to cause a lot of damage to beaches all along the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast coast damaged by Hurricane Sandy in October, and by Winter Storm Nemo on February 9. The powerful onshore winds of the new storm have already piled up a storm surge in excess of 2' along most of the coast from Norfolk, Virginia to New York City. The highest surges at 10 am EST were 4' at Wachapreague, Virginia and 3.5' at Lewes, Delaware. Winds gusting to 55 mph will build waves of up to 15' and a 2 - 4' storm surge along the coast of New Jersey, causing widespread areas of moderate flooding. Moderate flooding is also expected along large portions of the New England coast, from New York City to Boston. The most dangerous flooding is predicted to occur along coast of Cape Cod Bay southeast of Boston, where Friday morning's high tide cycle is expected to be accompanied by a storm surge of 3 - 4' and waves as high as 25', causing major coastal flooding.

We'll have ongoing coverage this week of Winter Storm Saturn in our Winter Storm Section. You can track current storm surge levels using our wundermap with the storm surge layer turned on.

Jeff Masters
winter storm Saturn
winter storm Saturn
This does not look like a morning in March!
IT'S KIND OF PRETTY, FOR DECEMBER!
IT'S KIND OF PRETTY, FOR DECEMBER!
Unfortunately, it's March!
Snow and Rain
Snow and Rain
Woke up to a few inches of snow, soon after the rain made its appearance. The snow has started to fall again.
Heavy Snow Returns
Heavy Snow Returns
After a brief letup. Now about 12" and rising.

Winter Weather Saturn

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

92P is now 19P
Quoting StormTrackerScott:


That's about to flip flop come next week. New England is in for one HELL of a COLD SPELL!



Thanks for the good news.I'm desperately looking for some sign of spring,and you come up with this.
503. VR46L
My Sunshine has gone away

... Florida's groundwater has been disappearing rapidly as the state's population grows at breakneck speed: By 2015, Florida is expected to hit 20 million residents, making it the third-largest U.S. state, according to BusinessWeek.

To slake a thirsty state's population, Florida has been aggressively pumping out groundwater, destabilizing its limestone bedrock and contributing to the growing number of sinkholes, according to a USGS report.

Nowhere is this more true than in "Sinkhole Alley," the rapidly growing region of west-central Florida surrounding Tampa Bay, CNN.com reports. Sinkholes can also occur naturally, but from 2006 to 2010, the number of sinkhole claims to Florida insurance companies tripled, according to BusinessWeek.
ALTHOUGH PW VALUES ARE
SOMEWHAT LOW ACROSS THIS REGION IT APPEARS ISOLATED TSTMS...POSSIBLY
SUPERCELLS...WILL EVOLVE BY EARLY EVENING FROM SERN CO...ARCING
SSEWD INTO THE TX SOUTH PLAINS. LARGE HAIL IS THE MOST LIKELY
SEVERE THREAT...ALTHOUGH CLOUD BASES MAY BE NO HIGHER THAN 1KM DUE
TO RELATIVE LOW TEMPERATURE/DEW POINT SPREADS. FOR THIS REASON CAN
NOT RULE OUT A FEW TORNADOES
.

WITH LLJ EXPECTED TO REMAIN STRONG THROUGH THE NIGHT IT WOULD SEEM
LIKELY THAT A LOOSELY ORGANIZED LINE OF CONVECTION MAY PROPAGATE
INTO WRN OK AND ACROSS WRN/CNTRL KS DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.
THIS ACTIVITY WILL BE INCREASINGLY ELEVATED WITH TIME AND SEVERE
THREAT SHOULD WANE WITH LOSS OF DAYTIME HEATING.
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
... Florida's groundwater has been disappearing rapidly as the state's population grows at breakneck speed: By 2015, Florida is expected to hit 20 million residents, making it the third-largest U.S. state, according to BusinessWeek.

To slake a thirsty state's population, Florida has been aggressively pumping out groundwater, destabilizing its limestone bedrock and contributing to the growing number of sinkholes, according to a USGS report.

Nowhere is this more true than in "Sinkhole Alley," the rapidly growing region of west-central Florida surrounding Tampa Bay, CNN.com reports. Sinkholes can also occur naturally, but from 2006 to 2010, the number of sinkhole claims to Florida insurance companies tripled, according to BusinessWeek.
Time to start de-salinization for drinking water!
Looks like still no severe wx for the SE....
still warm....still nothing....mid march..

THE NEW SHORTWAVE
WILL LIKELY PRODUCE A SECONDARY AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE OLD
COLD FRONT THAT WILL FINALLY PUSH SHOWERS AND STORMS THROUGH CENTRAL
ALABAMA IN THE MONDAY THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY TIME FRAME. OF
COURSE...QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED IN THE COMING DAYS ARE...WHERE
WILL THAT SECONDARY SURFACE LOW BE...HOW MUCH DEEPENING OF THE LOW
WILL BE PRESENT...AND HOW FAST WILL THE LOW MOVE EASTWARD? THE ANSWER
TO THOSE QUESTIONS WILL MOST LIKELY DICTATE OUR CHANCES OF SEVERE
WEATHER. MODEL GUIDANCE IS STILL SOMEWHAT IN DISAGREEMENT ON THE
TIMING OF THE COLD FRONT...BUT IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN ADVERTISING
DEWPOINTS POSSIBLY RISING TO 60 DEGREES OR HIGHER FOR THE SOUTHERN
HALF OF THE CWA BY MONDAY AFTERNOON. THIS ALONG WITH AMPLE AMOUNTS OF
SHEAR (0-6KM BULK SHEAR VALUES OF 50+ KNOTS) AN APPROACHING JET
STREAK OF 125 KTS AT 300MB...AND A DEVELOPING LOW LEVEL JET...WILL
TELL YOU SEVERE STORMS COULD DEFINITELY BE IN THE CARDS.
HOWEVER...AS HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR MANY SYSTEMS THIS WINTER
SEASON...MODEL GUIDANCE IS INDICATING THAT WITH A POSSIBLE
SOUTHEASTERLY FLOW AT THE SURFACE AHEAD OF THE FRONT...THERE WILL
NOT BE ENOUGH TRULY DEEP MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY TO TAP INTO BEFORE
THE FRONT MOVES THROUGH CENTRAL ALABAMA IN THE MONDAY THROUGH EARLY
TUESDAY TIME FRAME. THE CURRENT MODEL DIFFERENCES IN TIMING ALSO
DECREASE CONFIDENCE OF SEVERE AT THIS TIME...AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
NOT MENTION SEVERE IN THE HWO FOR NOW. FROM THE LOOK OF GUIDANCE
TRENDS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS...WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER MARGINAL
HIGH SHEAR/LOW CAPE TYPE OF A SYSTEM
THAT IS QUITE DIFFICULT TO PIN
DETAILS DOWN 4+ DAYS IN ADVANCE. STAY TUNED.
A cold front moved through Georgia on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 bringing thunderstorms to north and central Georgia. Numerous reports of downed trees were reported across the area as well as one report of nickel sized hail in Fannin County. Significant damage with this storm system was reported in Glascock County and a National Weather Service damage assessment team determined that an EF-1 tornado moved through the County.

Glascock County Tornado


Rating: EF-1
Max wind speed: 100 mph
Path length: 1.5 miles
Path width: 150 yards
Injuries: 0
Deaths: 0
Start time: 7:00 PM
End time: 7:10 PM
Begin point: 33.269293N/-82.611441W
End point: 33.274213N/-82.585357W



Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
... Florida's groundwater has been disappearing rapidly as the state's population grows at breakneck speed: By 2015, Florida is expected to hit 20 million residents, making it the third-largest U.S. state, according to BusinessWeek.

To slake a thirsty state's population, Florida has been aggressively pumping out groundwater, destabilizing its limestone bedrock and contributing to the growing number of sinkholes, according to a USGS report.

Nowhere is this more true than in "Sinkhole Alley," the rapidly growing region of west-central Florida surrounding Tampa Bay, CNN.com reports. Sinkholes can also occur naturally, but from 2006 to 2010, the number of sinkhole claims to Florida insurance companies tripled, according to BusinessWeek.


Throw in some pythons or mutant piranhas and you've got yourself a Syfy channel movie.
Twas the night before Snowquester and all through the land,
the snow lovers were giddy and rubbing their hands.
Snowblowers and shovels were nestled in the garage,
snow was finally coming, this was not a mirage.

The children were ready for a day off of school
so they ignored their homework, their bedtimes and rules.
And I in my Mukluks and mamma in her Uggs
fretted a day cooped up with kids, best treated with drugs.

Four Aleve, One Xanax and two Ambiens ago,
I woke up at midnight and what do you know?
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
tore open the shutters and broke the damn sash.



The moon on the breast of the new fallen snow,
gave the lustre of mid-day to, wait...
THERE’S SNOW???



It’s been two lonely years without my pale friend,
it’s been a long road but it’s back here again.
Overjoyed I high-fived a squirrel in a tree,
Did I take two Ambien, or was it actually three?



Asleep once again my worries melted away,
Snow had found us again and it was here to stay.
Filled with joy in the morning, our snow angst had parted,
there’s an inch on the ground, but it’s yet to get started!



The storm’s ramping up, there’s much more coming you see,
said my best friends in blogland, CWG.
Could it be, yes indeed, our snow desert would end,
exceeding two inches is a safe bet my friends.



I pored over maps, the dynamics were there,
it’s 38 down here but up there there’s cold air.
The rapidly falling precipitation would bring
a speedbump in our dismal, forced march into spring.



Alas as we waited, and waited some more,
rain’s all that was falling, promising snow nevermore.
With gloating flowing in from our friends in the west,
where the inches of powder were piling up best.



Sleds, boots and shovels sat waiting, the snow was no more,
you burned us again, damn I-95 corridor!
With heads down and tails tucked we gave up our fight,
Jim Cantore is gone, caught the 3:30 flight.



And I heard him exclaim, ‘ere he flew away from me,
Snow’s not your thing DC, but you got RGIII.
I wonder how many EF-0 to EF-1 spinup tornadoes occur every year that are never found in the forests.
Quoting VR46L:
My Sunshine has gone away



Looks very wet for you guys.

Forecast only calling for 4-8" across much of eastern Mass & Rhode Island. Wonder if these have been underestimated a bit. Looks as if rates are quite high.

Warm air starts spreading across the south tomorrow.

Storm looks impressive.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
I wonder how many EF-0 to EF-1 spinup tornadoes occur every year that are never found in the forests.

Various NWS offices conduct damage surveys based on radar signatures. While weak, tornadoes of that magnitude are likely to have some kind of representation. So probably not many.
521. VR46L
Quoting StormTrackerScott:


Looks very wet for you guys.





Yeah but cant complain had a couple of lovely weeks In a few days I will be offering to fedex (if I could) the stuff to Florida as I am aware there are Fire problems now there!


523. VR46L
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Twas the night before Snowquester and all through the land,
the snow lovers were giddy and rubbing their hands.
Snowblowers and shovels were nestled in the garage,
snow was finally coming, this was not a mirage.

The children were ready for a day off of school
so they ignored their homework, their bedtimes and rules.
And I in my Mukluks and mamma in her Uggs
fretted a day cooped up with kids, best treated with drugs.

Four Aleve, One Xanax and two Ambiens ago,
I woke up at midnight and what do you know?
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
tore open the shutters and broke the damn sash.



The moon on the breast of the new fallen snow,
gave the lustre of mid-day to, wait...
THERE’S SNOW???



It’s been two lonely years without my pale friend,
it’s been a long road but it’s back here again.
Overjoyed I high-fived a squirrel in a tree,
Did I take two Ambien, or was it actually three?



Asleep once again my worries melted away,
Snow had found us again and it was here to stay.
Filled with joy in the morning, our snow angst had parted,
there’s an inch on the ground, but it’s yet to get started!



The storm’s ramping up, there’s much more coming you see,
said my best friends in blogland, CWG.
Could it be, yes indeed, our snow desert would end,
exceeding two inches is a safe bet my friends.



I pored over maps, the dynamics were there,
it’s 38 down here but up there there’s cold air.
The rapidly falling precipitation would bring
a speedbump in our dismal, forced march into spring.



Alas as we waited, and waited some more,
rain’s all that was falling, promising snow nevermore.
With gloating flowing in from our friends in the west,
where the inches of powder were piling up best.



Sleds, boots and shovels sat waiting, the snow was no more,
you burned us again, damn I-95 corridor!
With heads down and tails tucked we gave up our fight,
Jim Cantore is gone, caught the 3:30 flight.



And I heard him exclaim, ‘ere he flew away from me,
Snow’s not your thing DC, but you got RGIII.


GS That really is Great !
Funny , witty and topical!
Good to see !
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
... Florida's groundwater has been disappearing rapidly as the state's population grows at breakneck speed: By 2015, Florida is expected to hit 20 million residents, making it the third-largest U.S. state...

...claims to Florida insurance companies tripled, according to BusinessWeek.


Perfect example of the failure and fallacies of the "free market".

AGW will destroy (erase) much of the state of Florida over the coming century, but government policy plus people's stupidity/selfishness means they keep moving TO Florida, when they should be moving FROM Florida.


There is no long term planning for these problems, and to the contrary, everyone is just ignoring the problem as if it doesn't matter. Just keep massing more and more population centers in areas that are already vulnerable, and which will become more vulnerable over the coming decades.

All of these children and grandchildren of these families which are moving into Florida will be left with no heritage when the place is destroyed, so because of their parent's foolishness, they will basically be SCREWED and end up needing to migrate from Florida when all this goes down. It's like kick the can to the next generation, but be sure you get anything useful out of the can first, so all they get is garbage.

Apparently, nobody cares about future generations though...not even their own families.

Apparently leaders figure that if a few hundred people get killed, or maybe even a few thousand, it's no big deal, we'll just replace them with immigrants.


Now the sink holes are adding yet another dimension to danger in Florida, and sea level rise can't be a good thing for sink holes either.

There are safer places to live, with lower land prices. I say prices, because "value" would be a misnomer. Liabilities have a real "value" of net negative, yet real estate and tourism industry has made their fortunes selling the worthless for the price of gold.
Hydrologic Outlook
HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK
FLZ041-044>047-053-054-058-059-064-141-144-147-08 0000-

HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
850 AM EST THU MAR 7 2013

...SPRING FLOOD OUTLOOK FOR EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA...

EXISTING CONDITIONS...

RAINFALL...
RAINFALL WAS BELOW NORMAL ACROSS EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA THIS WINTER
SEASON...WITH ORLANDO RECORDING THE 6TH DRIEST WINTER ON RECORD.
RAINFALL FOR THE WINTER AT EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REPORTING LOCATIONS
RANGED ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 80 PERCENT OF NORMAL RAINFALL...BUT
WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA RUNNING BELOW 50 PERCENT OF NORMAL
AND MODERATE TO SEVERE DRY CONDITIONS OVER THE AREA. ONE EXCEPTION
WAS THE SOUTHERN TREASURE COAST INCLUDING STUART...WHERE SLIGHTLY
ABOVE NORMAL RAINFALL WAS RECORDED FOR THE WINTER SEASON.

SOIL MOISTURE...
THE KEETCH-BYRAM DROUGHT INDEX (KBDI) WHICH IS AN INDICATOR OF SOIL
DRYNESS SHOWS MODERATE TO SEVERE DRYNESS FOR ALL OF EAST CENTRAL
FLORIDA...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SOUTHERN TREASURE COAST WHERE
NEAR NORMAL SOIL MOISTURE STILL EXISTS.

GROUND WATER CONDITIONS...
GROUNDWATER LEVELS RANGE FROM NORMAL TO ABOVE NORMAL ALONG THE
TREASURE COAST...AND NORMAL TO BELOW NORMAL ACROSS THE INTERIOR
SECTIONS NEAR THE I-4 CORRIDOR.

RIVER FLOWS...
NEAR NORMAL STREAMFLOW IS BEING REPORTED ALONG THE TREASURE COAST
BUT BELOW TO WELL BELOW NORMAL STREAMFLOW IS REPORTED OVER THE
REMAINDER OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA WATERSHEDS...INCLUDING THE MIDDLE
ST JOHNS RIVER.

OUTLOOKS...

METEOROLOGICAL OUTLOOK...
NO APPRECIABLE RAINFALL IS EXPECTED IN EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA UNTIL
THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. THE LATEST CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER (CPC)
OUTLOOK THROUGH THE END OF MARCH INDICATES EQUAL CHANCES OF ABOVE...
NORMAL OR BELOW NORMAL RAINFALL THROUGH THE END OF MARCH.

LONG TERM OUTLOOK...
THE LATEST CPC THREE MONTH OUTLOOK FOR THE PERIOD MARCH THROUGH MAY
CALLS FOR A GREATER THAN NORMAL LIKELIHOOD FOR BELOW NORMAL RAINFALL
IN EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA.

SPRING FLOOD OUTLOOK...
BASED ON THE CURRENT HYDROLOGIC CONDITIONS FROM THE WINTER
SEASON...HISTORICAL RIVER FLOOD CLIMATOLOGY AND EXPECTED BELOW
NORMAL PRECIPITATION THIS SPRING...THE POTENTIAL FOR RIVER FLOODING
THIS SPRING IN EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA WILL BE BELOW NORMAL.

$$
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Various NWS offices conduct damage surveys based on radar signatures. While weak, tornadoes of that magnitude are likely to have some kind of representation. So probably not many.


I dont think this tornado had a warning, they just checked up on damage reports, and decided it was one.
There was certainly nothing worth noticing on radar.

It was probably just based in the low level winds and lasted a very short time (storms moved 65mph)

More like a swirl than anything else.
It went 1.5 mile (a minute)
Quoting Skyepony:
CIMSS blog has some great shots of Undular bore over Texas and the Gulf of Mexico the snow storm made yesterday. As it hit the GOM it looks like the winds created waves that cooled the SST.
very cool write up on that, thanks for sharing!!

HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK
FLC001-003-007-019-023-031-035-041-047-083-089-10 7-109-121-125-GAC001-
003-005-025-039-049-065-069-101-127-161-229-299-3 05-080500-

HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
805 AM EST THU MAR 7 2013

...SPRING FLOOD OUTLOOK FOR SOUTHEAST GEORGIA AND NORTHEAST
FLORIDA...

FOR THE SPRING OF 2013...THE SOUTHEAST RIVER FORECAST CENTER PREDICTS
A NEAR NORMAL POTENTIAL FOR RIVER FLOODING ACROSS SOUTHEAST GEORGIA
AND NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

HISTORICALLY FOR SOUTHEAST GEORGIA AND NORTHEAST FLORIDA...THE RIVER
FLOOD SEASON BEGINS IN EARLY TO MID JANUARY...WITH THE NUMBER OF
RIVER FLOOD EVENTS INCREASING THROUGH LATE WINTER WITH A PEAK IN EARLY
TO MID MARCH...AND ENDING IN MID APRIL FOR THE REGION.

CURRENT STREAMFLOWS...
THE 14-DAY AVERAGE STREAMFLOWS PROVIDED BY THE USGS AS OF MARCH 4TH
ARE RUNNING NEAR NORMAL WITH SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL LEVELS CLOSER TO
CENTRAL FLORIDA.

PAST PRECIPITATION...
PRECIPITATION OVER THE LAST 30 DAYS...BASED OFF OF SERFC MULTISENSOR
PRECIPITATION ESTIMATES...HAS BEEN ABOVE NORMAL ACROSS THE REGION.

FUTURE PRECIPITATION...
THE LATEST SHORT AND MEDIUM RANGE METEOROLOGICAL MODELS INDICATE
SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL PRECIPITATION FOR THE REGION THROUGH MID MARCH.
THE SEASONAL OUTLOOK...WHICH RUNS THROUGH MAY...SHOWS A SLIGHTLY
BETTER CHANCE FOR BELOW NORMAL PRECIPITATION ACROSS SOUTHEAST GEORGIA
AND NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

SUMMARY...
THOUGH THE LATEST GFS METEOROLOGICAL MODEL INDICATES ONLY ONE
SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITATION EVENT THROUGH MARCH 21ST AND BELOW NORMAL
PRECIPITATION THROUGH THE PERIOD...ALL OTHER ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS
SUGGEST RIVER FLOOD POTENTIAL WILL BE NEAR NORMAL THROUGH THE SPRING
FLOOD PERIOD. NEAR NORMAL FLOOD POTENTIAL MEANS THE NUMBER OF RIVER
FLOODS ACROSS THE REGION WILL BE CLOSE TO TYPICAL FOR THIS TIME OF
YEAR.

&&

INFORMATION USED TO COMPLETE THIS FLOOD POTENTIAL OUTLOOK WAS
PROVIDED COURTESY OF THE SOUTHEAST RIVER FORECAST CENTER...THE
CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER...THE UNITED STATES GEOLOGICAL
SURVEY...THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE
SUWANNEE RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

FOR MORE SPECIFIC HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL DATA...PLEASE VISIT THE
FOLLOWING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WEB SITES:

WWW.WEATHER.GOV/JAX
WWW.WEATHER.GOV/SERFC
HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK
FLZ039-042-043-048>052-055>057-060>062-065-080045 -

HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
742 AM EST THU MAR 7 2013

...SPRING FLOOD OUTLOOK FOR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA...

ABNORMALLY DRY TO MODERATE DROUGHT CONDITIONS PERSIST ACROSS WEST
CENTRAL FLORIDA AS BELOW NORMAL RAINFALL HAS OCCURRED DURING THE DRY
WINTER SEASON. RIVER LEVELS REMAIN LOW ON ALL RIVERS AND STREAMS
ACROSS THE REGION. THE FLOOD THREAT IS TYPICALLY LOW DURING THE
SPRING OVER THE FORECAST AREA...AND THAT WILL BE THE CASE AGAIN
THIS YEAR. IT WOULD TAKE A FIVE INCH RAIN EVENT TO PRODUCE THE
POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING ACROSS THE REGION...WHICH IS UNUSUAL EVENT
BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE. THE FLOOD THREAT FOR THE SPRING OF 2013 IS
LOW.

$$
We no longer call the storm snowquester here in D.C.
instead we call it the storm that will remain nameless.TSTWRN

I just pray for a good snow storm next winter.This winter was more like a big strip tease.Now we'll really be desperate for snow here in D.C.Well at least us snow lovers.
Quoting RTSplayer:


Perfect example of the failure and fallacies of the "free market".

AGW will destroy (erase) much of the state of Florida over the coming century, but government policy plus people's stupidity/selfishness means they keep moving TO Florida, when they should be moving FROM Florida.


There is no long term planning for these problems, and to the contrary, everyone is just ignoring the problem as if it doesn't matter. Just keep massing more and more population centers in areas that are already vulnerable, and which will become more vulnerable over the coming decades.

All of these children and grandchildren of these families which are moving into Florida will be left with no heritage when the place is destroyed, so because of their parent's foolishness, they will basically be SCREWED and end up needing to migrate from Florida when all this goes down. It's like kick the can to the next generation, but be sure you get anything useful out of the can first, so all they get is garbage.

Apparently, nobody cares about future generations though...not even their own families.

Apparently leaders figure that if a few hundred people get killed, or maybe even a few thousand, it's no big deal, we'll just replace them with immigrants.


Now the sink holes are adding yet another dimension to danger in Florida, and sea level rise can't be a good thing for sink holes either.

There are safer places to live, with lower land prices. I say prices, because "value" would be a misnomer. Liabilities have a real "value" of net negative, yet real estate and tourism industry has made their fortunes selling the worthless for the price of gold.


Well, I can't say I plan to stay here for the rest of my days, but Cape Coral has built a desalination plant to help meet our water needs; and on a personal level, I deliberately bought a barren property here so that I could reforest it. So at least some of us down here are environmentally aware and doing what we can.
534. VR46L
I dont think she is completely done...

Quoting OrchidGrower:


Well, I can't say I plan to stay here for the rest of my days, but Cape Coral has built a desalination plant to help meet our water needs; and on a personal level, I deliberately bought a barren property here so that I could reforest it. So at least some of us down here are environmentally aware and doing what we can.



Give me a break!!
Here is what they were forecasting



Already a couple of 4" reports coming in.

Here is a link to live updated totals map
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
538. eddye
is it me our is this going 2 be worse then last year for hurricanes and look how warm the waters are we in la nina
crazy NK government

North Korea on Thursday vowed to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States, amplifying its threatening rhetoric hours ahead of a vote by U.N
Quoting VR46L:
My Sunshine has gone away



: ( 56.3 here this morning....

update lol, see I'm late again.....