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Great quake rocks Japan, generating dangerous Pacific tsunami

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:56 PM GMT on March 11, 2011

We live on a dangerous planet. Earth's second great earthquake in thirteen months rocked the coast of Japan at 5:46 GMT this morning, generating a dangerous tsunami that is racing across the Pacific Ocean. The mighty magnitude 8.9 earthquake is the 7th most powerful tremor in world history (Figure 1), and the planet's second top-ten earthquake in the past two years. The world's 8th largest earthquake, a magnitude 8.8 event, hit Chile on February 27, 2010. Never before have two top-ten earthquakes hit so close together in time. Today's quake was the strongest in Japanese history, and may end up being the most expensive natural disaster in world history, surpassing the $133+ billion dollar price tag from Hurricane Katrina.


Figure 1. Wikipedia's list of strongest earthquakes of all-time.

Media reports put the height of the tsunami near the Japanese coast as high as 23 feet. The initial tsunami wave has already hit Hawaii, and so far wave heights have been less than six feet, with 2.1 feet measured at Honolulu and 5.7 feet on Maui. Hilo on the Big Island has had a wave of 4.6 feet thus far. The city is not going to suffer the kind of devastation wrought by the tsunami from the 9.5 Magnitude 1960 earthquake in Chile, killed 61 people in Hilo.

MEASUREMENTS OR REPORTS OF TSUNAMI ACTIVITY

BOSO JAPAN 02.5FT/00.75M
NAHA JAPAN 01.6FT/00.49M
OFUNATO JAPAN 10.7FT/03.25M
OMAEZAKI JAPAN 04.6FT/01.39M
TOKAI JAPAN 00.8FT/00.23M
TOSASHIMIZU JAPAN 03.0FT/00.91M
KWAJALEIN MARSHALL ISL 01.0FT/00.30M
MIDWAY IS. USA 05.1FT/01.55M
WAKE IS. USA 01.7FT/00.52M
LEGASPI PHILIPPINES 01.1FT/00.32M
DUTCH HARBOR AK 01.6FT/00.48M
NIKOLSKI AK 01.4FT/00.41M
FRENCH FRIGATE SHOALS 01.8FT/00.56M
ST PAUL IS. AK 02.0FT/00.61M
SAND POINT AK 00.7FT/00.22M
MANUS PAPUA NEW GUINEA 01.2FT/00.36M
NAWILIWILI KAUAI HI 01.6FT/00.48M
BARBERS POINT HI 02.3FT/00.70M
HONOLULU OAHU HI 02.1FT/00.64M
KAHULUI MAUI HI 05.7FT/01.74M
HILO HI 04.6FT/01.41M
KING COVE AK 02.1FT/00.64M
LANGARA POINT BC 00.8FT/00.23M

In the San Francisco Bay area, tsunami waves of 1.6 - 5.3 feet are expected near 8am local time. The highest waves are expected near Rio del Mar, in Monterey Bay near Santa Cruz. Fortunately, the expected time of arrival is near the time of low tide, and tidal range along the central California coast is about 5 feet. This means that in most locations, the initial tsunami wave will not reach above the high tide mark. However, a tsunami is usually a series of waves that occur over a period of hours, and the highest tsunami waves along the North American coast are expected to arrive 2 - 3 hours after the initial wave hits, according to the NOAA/NWS/West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center. These later waves could arrive as the tide is coming in, and cause flooding in low-lying areas. Northern California will see higher waves, with a tsunami of 7.9 feet expected at Crescent City. The waves will be hitting near the time of low tide at Crescent City, where tidal range is also about 5 feet between high and low tide.

Estimated time of arrival (PST) of possible tsunami at:
7:23 am for Crescent City
8:08 am for San Francisco
8:17 am for Santa Barbara

The latest forecast wave heights as of 5:20 am:
7.9 feet for Crescent City
6.5 feet for Port Orford
6.3 feet for Brookings
5.3 feet for Rio del Mar
4.5 feet for Reedsport
4.2 feet for Arena Cove
2.0 feet for Point Reyes
2.4 feet for Fort Point
2.8 feet for Pacifica
3.0 feet for Half Moon Bay
3.3 feet for Santa Cruz
2.9 feet for Point Sur


Figure 2. NOAA's preliminary forecast of tsunami wave energy for today's earthquake. Image credit: NOAA Tsunami Warning Center.

Portlight.org is mobilizing to provide financial assistance to people with disabilities affected by the disaster, and there will undoubtedly be a huge relief effort by numerous charities in the wake of the earthquake. Your financial contributions and prayers for those affected will be valuable.

Jeff Masters

Earthquake

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

You know this could happen in a city like Los Angeles and the death toll would be high also the cost.
How did they determine this was a 9.1 instead of an 8.9?
Quoting FloridaHeat:
CNN.com still lists it as an 8.9 quake.



Here is the link. Caneswatch just found it. It states the USG is still keeping it 8.9 but the others at Hawaii have upgraded it making it twice as strong as suspected. These number should fluctuate until there is a consensus. Interesting link:


Link
Only heard of possible revision to 9.0 acc. to NS. Probably take a bit to get a properly revised reading.

Either way, strongest quake in that area for 1,200 years supposedly.

9.1 would be the same (roughly) as the Indian Ocean disaster in 2004.
Quoting FloridaHeat:
I have a feeling this will be more costly than the Haiti earthquake.


Probably not in lives; the earthquake in Haiti killed around 300,000 (count the missing as dead) but come on, man, in actual monetary loss, of course it will...the two countries can't be compared that way...Japan is pretty much first in First World Asian countries; Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere and either number 2 or 3 worldwide (probably the poorest since the quake).

The cost in tangible materials lost (infrastructure, buildings, manufacturing) will be a factor of ten, minimum, higher than Haiti
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Yammering about ancient aliens on a day like this? Please stop! It's stupid and it's not funny!
Use the report ! Button.
Quoting FloridaHeat:


What a bizarre comment.


Buwawawa! Now that's funny!
Quoting aquak9:
Klaaata- I went thru Northridge... I'll NEVER got to Cally again. NEVER.


I have to fly to Novato CA, north of San Fran all the time. I don't go on the Bay Bridge or the Embarkadero if I can avoid it. I'm very aware of everything when I'm out there, even though everyone says in Novato, "it's ok, we're on rock!" Well, better than liquifaction I guess, but still don't like it.

I've felt quite a few tremors here on the East Coast as well, and I know they're tremors because once you experience an earthquake you know what it is, but they're certainly not like the West.

I lived in Southern California when I was in sixth grade, a long time ago in a galaxy far away. I remember being out on the playground when an earthquake hit, but the epicenter was a ways away. I remember that the ground seemed to be rolling like water, as we rode the sound/shockwave. I didn't like it then either.
Quoting Patrap:
When these assessment teams start in the Morning first Light,,

..,folks may want to process what they have seen today cuz the numbers are going to be dramatic.


Hi Patrick, yeah.
There was no time to get out unless you were already not there.

Speaking only of the tsunami and don't know how many people potentially were impacted from that.

The buildings are amazingly constructed to handle the earthquake, even one that is as nearly off the charts as this one was.
Now Japanese TV is saying 400-700 dead. Not sure why they dropped it down from "more than 1,000"
Link

Current list of latest quakes - Japan
Quoting Floodman:


Probably not in lives; the earthquake in Haiti killed around 300,000 (count the missing as dead) but come on, man, in actual monetary loss, of course it will...the two countries can't be compared that way...Japan is pretty much first in First World Asian countries; Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere and either number 2 or 3 worldwide (probably the poorest since the quake).

The cost in tangible materials lost (infrastructure, buildings, manufacturing) will be a factor of ten, minimum, higher than Haiti


Yes, you are correct.
I expect the death toll figures will bounce around a lot the next day or two.
Those numbers likely to go much,much higher in the coming days.

Dawn is breaking on the day after so the assessment teams will be getting out soon.


Quoting Patrap:
Those numbers likely to go much,much higher in the coming days.

Dawn is breaking on the day after so the assessment teams will be getting out soon.




Yes, I could see the number going to 2,000 or maybe even more.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Now Japanese TV is saying 400-700 dead. Not sure why they dropped it down from "more than 1,000"


Possibly "known" dead? We won't get the true numbers for days. It's just too early. Perhaps it will be miraculous, like 9/11, with the possible figures much higher than the actual figures, but I have a bad feeling about this. I think this is going to be terrible.
Bullet train's spotless safety record may have come to an end. If they can't find the train, what does that tell you. :{
Quoting Patrap:

-- Amphibious Force headquarters in White Beach, Okinawa, moved its watch to higher ground at Kadena Air Base in preparation for a forecasted tsunami.

I was stationed at Camp Hansen 9th Engineers Okinawa,Sept 82-83,,before I almost bumped into Grothar in Norway in 84



Both of us would have saluted each other, but only one of us would have meant it.

It really is a terrible, heartbreaking tragedy. Deja vu. The Japanese are a very resiliant people. They have an excellent infrastructure, but this is going to be an enormous task. Much immediate help will be needed.
how can they count the dead? It's not like they have a truly accurate census, is there?

B'sides...I mean a TRUE number?

C'mon folks...ya'll have seen the videos.
Quoting SQUAWK:
Bullet train's spotless safety record may have come to an end. If they can't find the train, what does that tell you. :{


How many were on the train? I assume the train was washed away by the tsunami, or fell into a deep hole possibly?
The 6.7-magnitude earthquake which struck Niigata prefecture at 0400 on Saturday (1900 GMT on Friday) caused landslides and avalanches, police have said. The Kyodo news agency said there were no immediate reports of casualties after the tremor, which was followed by an almost equally strong one in the same area about 45 minutes later. The quakes struck in the west of the main island of Honshu, on the Sea of Japan coast.
Quoting aquak9:
how can they count the dead? It's not like they have a truly accurate census, is there?

B'sides...I mean a TRUE number?

C'mon folks...ya'll have seen the videos.


We will never know because many of them were eaten by the Pacific Ocean.
I wouldn't hold a bullet train responsible for the deaths--it was the earthquake.
6.6 19:46:49 40.472 139.070 10.0 NEAR THE WEST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

Link
(Source: BBC.) Japan now: The official Kyodo news agency is reporting that about 88,000 people are missing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-123076 98?OCID=twwnabbc

aqua,
You're right. The reality of the situation is unknown at this time.

'Bye, all. I can't watch this horribility. Besides, fires burning close to home.
Confusion or clarity on the reactor issues:
Link

Excerpt:

The cooling problem is with the second of six reactors at the plant, located on the east coast of Japan about 200 miles north of Tokyo and south of the heavily damaged town of Sendai. Separately there were reports of elevated radiation levels inside the control room of one of the other reactor units, which was built 40 years ago. Sources said that the authorities were contemplating venting from that unit.
This list is just for today in the area of HONSHU, JAPAN.

MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 20:41:24 37.675 143.698 25.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 20:34:40 36.993 140.985 25.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 20:23:43 35.818 141.583 24.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 20:11:22 39.025 142.645 8.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 19:45:24 37.653 141.548 25.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 19:24:28 35.770 140.639 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 19:02:58 39.372 142.900 24.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 18:44:06 36.858 141.029 25.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 18:43:13 40.139 143.061 89.7 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 18:39:33 37.916 143.055 1.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 18:17:05 36.218 141.685 25.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/11 18:11:24 37.118 142.160 13.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.7 2011/03/11 18:02:38 36.793 143.212 24.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 17:50:01 37.648 144.991 25.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 17:32:13 37.137 144.572 24.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 17:30:47 37.418 141.099 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 17:23:57 36.015 141.888 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 17:16:59 37.111 144.145 26.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/11 17:14:59 39.016 142.517 51.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 17:12:40 37.564 144.069 25.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 16:55:52 37.779 143.171 25.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 16:34:21 39.376 143.405 40.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 16:20:51 36.157 141.877 25.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 16:11:26 39.463 143.577 9.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 16:04:52 39.236 144.320 25.5 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:55:22 36.626 142.162 24.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:50:59 37.409 142.217 24.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:46:01 36.022 141.958 19.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 15:42:05 36.066 141.515 15.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 15:36:15 38.907 142.722 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 15:32:33 37.216 142.233 25.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 15:19:37 36.233 141.856 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.2 2011/03/11 15:13:14 35.997 141.796 18.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 15:01:38 39.082 142.383 26.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 14:56:15 35.979 141.367 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 14:54:03 35.919 141.819 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 14:44:07 36.655 140.769 25.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 14:26:30 37.431 142.254 13.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 14:20:19 37.947 143.183 25.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 14:10:39 37.575 141.963 25.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 14:00:37 36.151 140.845 30.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 13:58:49 36.681 141.776 25.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 13:55:27 38.039 142.831 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 13:48:38 38.426 143.061 25.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 13:43:10 38.972 144.209 25.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/11 13:42:26 37.410 142.009 25.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 13:34:36 36.249 141.850 35.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 13:31:54 39.152 142.837 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 13:16:49 36.304 141.730 30.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 13:15:45 37.393 141.882 30.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 13:02:43 36.755 141.885 30.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 12:59:21 36.128 141.768 24.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 12:54:52 38.502 142.120 36.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 12:49:01 36.158 141.711 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 12:34:22 36.912 143.736 39.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 12:33:18 38.374 142.590 29.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 12:28:44 36.166 141.664 29.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 12:24:37 36.525 141.707 27.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 12:12:53 38.052 142.542 21.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 12:04:16 36.351 142.700 38.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:56:16 36.356 141.504 39.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 11:54:02 36.982 142.535 45.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 11:46:46 36.034 141.055 47.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 11:44:28 36.709 142.231 31.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.5 2011/03/11 11:36:39 39.276 142.521 11.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/11 11:21:02 35.759 140.913 25.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:16:50 36.614 141.894 36.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:13:12 36.451 141.789 18.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 11:10:57 35.534 141.856 27.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 11:00:51 37.813 141.481 28.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/11 10:58:05 39.060 142.213 30.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/11 10:52:07 38.534 143.346 29.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 10:45:46 38.466 143.591 41.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/11 10:35:35 37.044 141.298 25.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 10:28:44 39.447 143.531 29.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 10:20:27 36.966 142.289 21.7 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.0 2011/03/11 10:10:34 39.248 142.779 28.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 09:59:56 36.703 142.207 41.6 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 09:47:01 39.685 142.938 29.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 09:42:22 39.438 142.749 30.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 09:37:08 35.877 141.585 29.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 09:09:14 37.717 143.267 36.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 09:04:10 37.299 142.655 30.5 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/11 09:00:19 37.056 141.966 20.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/11 08:52:26 36.763 141.910 35.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 08:46:47 37.421 142.453 37.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 08:40:56 37.465 141.122 38.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 08:31:07 37.428 141.200 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.5 2011/03/11 08:19:24 36.200 142.000 19.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.2 2011/03/11 08:15:40 37.034 144.612 27.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.2 2011/03/11 08:12:04 36.606 141.557 19.8 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.5 2011/03/11 08:10:30 36.394 140.631 30.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 08:01:58 37.071 142.734 22.6 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/11 07:56:15 37.130 142.305 34.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/11 07:54:44 37.742 141.565 45.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 07:42:55 36.406 141.919 29.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 07:38:26 39.250 142.783 29.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 07:28:12 36.802 141.911 24.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/11 07:25:33 37.916 144.621 15.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 07:14:59 36.648 141.811 25.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.9 2011/03/11 07:13:47 36.051 142.347 28.5 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.8 2011/03/11 07:10:59 37.899 142.734 30.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 06:57:14 35.758 140.992 30.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.3 2011/03/11 06:48:47 37.993 142.764 22.3 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 7.1 2011/03/11 06:25:50 38.106 144.553 19.7 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.8 2011/03/11 06:15:40 36.186 141.192 35.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.4 2011/03/11 06:07:21 36.401 141.862 35.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.4 2011/03/11 06:06:11 39.025 142.316 25.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 8.9 2011/03/11 05:46:23 38.322 142.369 24.4 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/10 22:44:25 38.844 143.006 34.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.7 2011/03/10 21:49:46 38.590 143.086 26.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/10 16:54:45 38.053 143.253 4.7 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/10 11:21:08 38.611 143.049 17.6 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/10 09:02:21 38.652 143.146 21.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/10 08:59:19 38.547 143.295 19.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/10 08:08:20 38.630 143.304 17.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/10 07:33:04 38.954 142.458 20.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.6 2011/03/10 04:14:00 38.406 143.427 31.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/10 01:20:23 38.408 143.033 25.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/09 23:57:41 38.308 143.275 20.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.4 2011/03/09 23:37:00 38.438 143.185 32.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/09 21:22:18 38.385 142.642 23.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/09 21:00:57 38.267 142.580 22.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.0 2011/03/09 18:44:35 38.502 143.199 23.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 6.1 2011/03/09 18:16:14 38.378 142.506 22.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/09 14:24:05 38.589 143.226 10.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.7 2011/03/09 12:03:17 38.358 143.119 13.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/09 11:27:51 38.529 143.040 28.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.7 2011/03/09 10:13:39 38.721 143.090 27.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/09 08:55:38 38.667 143.055 15.6 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/09 08:02:36 38.606 143.103 15.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/09 07:56:27 38.849 142.929 10.7 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/09 07:13:48 38.246 143.108 9.9 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.1 2011/03/09 06:25:12 38.299 143.067 10.8 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.9 2011/03/09 06:12:13 38.681 143.022 10.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.7 2011/03/09 05:27:06 37.830 145.135 10.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.3 2011/03/09 04:45:54 38.543 142.740 27.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.7 2011/03/09 04:37:03 38.666 142.991 25.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/09 04:32:10 38.727 143.001 32.1 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 4.8 2011/03/09 04:15:39 38.857 142.658 12.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/09 04:05:53 38.870 142.420 10.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/09 03:19:00 38.795 142.962 19.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/09 03:08:35 38.339 143.097 24.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/09 02:57:16 38.402 142.825 17.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 7.2 2011/03/09 02:45:20 38.424 142.836 32.0 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Yammering about ancient aliens on a day like this? Please stop! It's stupid and it's not funny!


Some people deal with this sort of thing by getting all serious, others deal with this sort of thing with humour...I prefer the humour, me. Yes, a certain respect is called for, but so is some perspective, weatherboy.


Working on including this in a new blog post:

The tide gauge at Crescent City, CA shows that at least 15 separate tsunami waves have hit the harbor so far. The first wave came at about 15:50 UTC (7:50am PST), was about 2.5 feet high, and was not preceded by the ocean falling and water being sucked out to sea. After this initial wave, the ocean level dropped rapidly by 8 feet, and then a series of large waves began rushing in and out, with up to a 13 foot difference between low water and high water. The largest wave came at 17 UTC (9am PST), an hour and 10 minutes after the initial wave, and was 7 feet high. Fortunately, this wave came near the time of low tide, and the wave was only 2 feet above last night's high tide mark. Tidal range between low and high tide is about 5 feet at Crescent City. The tide is now rising, and new tsunami waves are still rushing in and out, with the one just before 21 UTC (1pm PST) reaching a height about 2 feet above high tide.

Jeff Masters
It looks like at least 8 ships of the Pacific Fleet are on their way to Japan, including the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan. I am sure more will be on the way. The amount of aid will have to be tremendous. I am sure Australia and the other nations will be sending enormous amounts of aid. Australia has very close ties to Japan.
Quoting Floodman:


It's now tied for #3 since "accurate" records were possible...


no upgrade still the same

Earthquake Details
This is a computer-generated message -- this event has not yet been reviewed by a seismologist.
Magnitude 8.9
Date-Time Friday, March 11, 2011 at 05:46:23 UTC
Friday, March 11, 2011 at 02:46:23 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 38.322°N, 142.369°E
Depth 24.4 km (15.2 miles) set by location program
Region NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Distances 130 km (80 miles) E of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
178 km (110 miles) E of Yamagata, Honshu, Japan
178 km (110 miles) ENE of Fukushima, Honshu, Japan
373 km (231 miles) NE of TOKYO, Japan

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 13.5 km (8.4 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST=350, Nph=351, Dmin=416.3 km, Rmss=1.46 sec, Gp= 29°,
M-type="moment" magnitude from initial P wave (tsuboi method) (Mi/Mwp), Version=A
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID usc0001xgp
Japan has a very accurate census program. But it will be a matter of counting the bodies and figuring out who was swept out to sea and is truly missing. It will take a long time to total it up.

The final figure for the Hanshin earthquake was not released for more than 10 years.

Quoting aquak9:
how can they count the dead? It's not like they have a truly accurate census, is there?

B'sides...I mean a TRUE number?

C'mon folks...ya'll have seen the videos.
Quoting SQUAWK:
Bullet train's spotless safety record may have come to an end. If they can't find the train, what does that tell you. :{


You can hardly fault the railroad for this; who foresees a 20 foot wall of water moving 50 miles and hour?
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Military Gears Up to Help Japan

By Cheryl Pellerin
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, March 11, 2011 – U.S. forces are swinging into action to assist Japan in the wake of a magnitude 8.9 earthquake that struck early this morning.

“We are assessing the situation and positioning forces so that they are ready to respond and provide disaster relief if directed,” said Navy Cmdr. Leslie Hull-Ryde, a Pentagon spokeswoman.

Japan has requested U.S. assistance through the State Department.

The USS Tortuga, in Sasebo, Japan, is preparing to load landing craft and to leave for the disaster areas as early as this evening.

The USS Essex, with the embarked 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, arrived in Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia, this morning. The ship is preparing to depart as early as this evening.

The USS Blue Ridge, in Singapore, is taking on humanitarian assistance and disaster relief supplies and preparing to depart tomorrow morning.

The USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group, at sea in the western Pacific on its way to Korea, can respond if directed.

“We are watching the situation closely and will adjust the track as required,” Hull-Ryder said.

Earthquake impacts on 7th Fleet, with headquarters in Yokosuka, Japan, include the following:

-- Ships in port in Yokosuka stationed linehandlers to adjust to water-level changes in Yokosuka harbor. No damage has been reported to any of the ships.

-- Ships in Guam have been directed to leave if possible, or to recall personnel and adjust lines during changes in sea level.

-- Maritime Patrol and Reconnaissance Force headquarters in Misawa was briefly evacuated. It is without power and operating from a generator.

-- Amphibious Force headquarters in White Beach, Okinawa, moved its watch to higher ground at Kadena Air Base in preparation for a forecasted tsunami.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey, the earthquake and subsequent tsunami was preceded by a series of large foreshocks over the past two days, beginning on March 9 with a 7.2 magnitude quake 25 miles from today’s earthquake, and continuing with another three earthquakes greater than magnitude 6.0 on the same day.

The U.S. Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Eva Beach, Hawaii, has issued a tsunami warning.

“A tsunami has been generated that could cause damage along coastlines of all islands in the state of Hawaii,” the warning says. “Action should be taken to protect lives and property.”
The zone that produced today’s earthquake has produced nine temblors of magnitude 7 or greater since 1973. The largest was a December 1994 magnitude 7.8 earthquake 160 miles north of today’s quake that killed three people and injured nearly 700.

President Barack Obama issued a statement this morning pledging any help Japan may need from the United States and announcing that the Federal Emergency Management Agency is preparing for potential tsunami-response operations in the United States and its territories.

"Michelle and I send our deepest condolences to the people of Japan, particularly those who have lost loved ones in the earthquake and tsunamis,” the statement said. “The United States stands ready to help the Japanese people in this time of great trial.

“The friendship and alliance between our two nations is unshakeable, and only strengthens our resolve to stand with the people of Japan as they overcome this tragedy,” Obama added. “We will continue to closely monitor tsunamis around Japan and the Pacific going forward, and we are asking all our citizens in the affected region to listen to their state and local officials as I have instructed FEMA to be ready to assist Hawaii and the rest of the U.S states and territories that could be affected."

Americans in affected areas who need to contact the State Department can do so by e-mail to japanemergencyusc@state.gov or Pacifictsunamiusc@state.gov. The State Department also is posting the latest travel information for the affected areas on the World Wide Web and via Twitter.

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Quoting TampaFLUSA:
(Source: BBC.) Japan now: The official Kyodo news agency is reporting that about 88,000 people are missing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-123076 98?OCID=twwnabbc



That's a broken link
Quoting SQUAWK:
This list is just for today in the area of HONSHU, JAPAN.


Next time link please!
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


Is this saying that the earth has moved because of the earthquake?
Now saying 200-300 dead in Sendai. I can read Japanese a *little* bit. The 400-700 may have been for the prefecture of Miyagi.
Thanks for the update in CA Jeff!
By the way, just saw an eagle flying north outside my window that faces east across oak hammock on the beachside. priceless
Quoting JeffMasters:


Working on including this in a new blog post:

The tide gauge at Crescent City, CA shows that at least 15 separate tsunami waves have hit the harbor so far. The first wave came at about 15:50 UTC (7:50am PST), was about 2.5 feet high, and was not preceded by the ocean falling and water being sucked out to sea. After this initial wave, the ocean level dropped rapidly by 8 feet, and then a series of large waves began rushing in and out, with up to a 13 foot difference between low water and high water. The largest wave came at 17 UTC (9am PST), an hour and 10 minutes after the initial wave, and was 7 feet high. Fortunately, this wave came near the time of low tide, and the wave was only 2 feet above last night's high tide mark. Tidal range between low and high tide is about 5 feet at Crescent City. The tide is now rising, and new tsunami waves are still rushing in and out, with the one just before 21 UTC (1pm PST) reaching a height about 2 feet above high tide.

Jeff Masters
With that tidal range, it most certainly was not the height that destroyed their docks, but the velocity of the water. Scouring the foundations and placing extreme stress on the structure.
Thus the root words

"Earth and Quake"
Quoting FloridaHeat:


Is this saying that the earth has moved because of the earthquake?


The earth always moves and rumbles for days, even weeks after most major quakes.
#
2132: The Tokyo Electric Power Company has said radiation may already have been released at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant.
#
2131: Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan has just announced that residents living within 10km (6.2 miles) of the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear station must evacuate their homes, according to the Kyodo news agency. Engineers are trying to fix the cooling system of one of the plant's reactors, which was damaged by the earthquake. The authorities had earlier told some 3,000 residents living within 3km (1.9 miles) to leave.
#
BBC
Quoting JeffMasters:


Working on including this in a new blog post:

The tide gauge at Crescent City, CA shows that at least 15 separate tsunami waves have hit the harbor so far. The first wave came at about 15:50 UTC (7:50am PST), was about 2.5 feet high, and was not preceded by the ocean falling and water being sucked out to sea. After this initial wave, the ocean level dropped rapidly by 8 feet, and then a series of large waves began rushing in and out, with up to a 13 foot difference between low water and high water. The largest wave came at 17 UTC (9am PST), an hour and 10 minutes after the initial wave, and was 7 feet high. Fortunately, this wave came near the time of low tide, and the wave was only 2 feet above last night's high tide mark. Tidal range between low and high tide is about 5 feet at Crescent City. The tide is now rising, and new tsunami waves are still rushing in and out, with the one just before 21 UTC (1pm PST) reaching a height about 2 feet above high tide.

Jeff Masters

VERY lucky the waves didn't come in at high tide - they actually came in on a neap tide... talk about dodging a bullet.
Quoting Grothar:


The earth always moves and rumbles for days, even weeks after most major quakes.


tends to effect rotational speed as well...I read somewhere that the Chilean earthquake added .25 of a second, or thereabouts, to our day
Quoting Floodman:


You can hardly fault the railroad for this; who foresees a 20 foot wall of water moving 50 miles and hour?
Ancient Aliens, thats who.

(you know some people will still want to fault the RR for it...)
Quoting klaatuborada:
#
2132: The Tokyo Electric Power Company has said radiation may already have been released at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant.
#
2131: Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan has just announced that residents living within 10km (6.2 miles) of the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear station must evacuate their homes, according to the Kyodo news agency. Engineers are trying to fix the cooling system of one of the plant's reactors, which was damaged by the earthquake. The authorities had earlier told some 3,000 residents living within 3km (1.9 miles) to leave.
#
BBC


Perparing for the worst...Japan, of all nations, is very sensitive to radiation dangers and this is certainly an indication of that
Quoting Floodman:


tends to effect rotational speed as well...I read somewhere that the Chilean earthquake added .25 of a second, or thereabouts, to our day


I was just posting this for FloridaHeat, but you'll do. This is something.

Link
I remember when Chernobyl blew they grabbed anyone they could to try to help mop and work on fixing it. All of those people died very quickly. I pray for those at the plant right now. They may already know their time is limited.

This is the scariest, to me, of everything else that is happening, and why I've never been keen on nuclear reactors built near fault lines, or just built, as man's pride is always saying he can build things safely, but I ain't buying it.
Quoting jeffs713:
Ancient Aliens, thats who.

(you know some people will still want to fault the RR for it...)


Well, you know, traditionally Ancient Aliens have been very difficult to get into a court of law. Railroads, on the other hand, are there nearly every day...
Quoting Patrap:



EXCELLENT video, thanks Patrap!

If that isn't enough to get people's attention, I don't know what will.
Quoting Grothar:


Both of us would have saluted each other, but only one of us would have meant it.

It really is a terrible, heartbreaking tragedy. Deja vu. The Japanese are a very resiliant people. They have an excellent infrastructure, but this is going to be an enormous task. Much immediate help will be needed.


I just saw this one...Grothar, you sacreligious man you
Quoting Floodman:


Well, you know, traditionally Ancient Aliens have been very difficult to get into a court of law. Railroads, on the other hand, are there nearly every day...

True. Ancient Aliens tend to ignore Subpoenas.
Quoting SQUAWK:
This list is just for today in the area of HONSHU, JAPAN.

You need to cut the bottom 40 or so of those off the list; those are foreshocks from the last couple of days...
561. DEKRE
Quoting FloridaHeat:
Are large creatures in the Pacific Ocean like whales killed by the tsunamis?


On the open sea, a tsunami is hardly noticeable. Only when the depth of the water decreases does the wave build up. Wave height in the open ocean is onle a few centi-meters, the volume of water is very high because of the great wave-length. A few cm times many km makes for quite an amount of water
Quoting Grothar:


I was just posting this for FloridaHeat, but you'll do. This is something.

Link


Outstanding...I somewhat over-estimated the effect of the earthquake...would have had to have been a 40 or so on the Richter scale for .25 of a second
Do you all really think this could have something to do with aliens?
Well I unfortunately have to go work! I got a new job as a bagger at Publix and I am making a ton of money doing that because they pay really well. I hope they let me go home early if the world is going to end.
Seismogram for Largest quake in Japan

Link
A-Ha...!

A bagger.

I knew it.

Are the Publix Bagger's union folk?

LOL
Quoting DEKRE:


On the open sea, a tsunami is hardly noticeable. Only when the depth of the water decreases does the wave build up. Wave height in the open ocean is onle a few centi-meters, the volume of water is very high because of the great wave-length. A few cm times many km makes for quite an amount of water
If I were in a decent-sized ship well away from the coasts, I'd have no fear of a tsunami. Great place to be for one...

You left out that those few centimeters in the ocean would occur over time scales of more than 10 minutes. It would take sensitive vertical GPS equipment to notice it.
Quoting Floodman:


You can hardly fault the railroad for this; who foresees a 20 foot wall of water moving 50 miles and hour?


It isn't about fault. They have not had a single death from an accident since the train's inception. They have had other major earthquakes that the trains have survived without loss of life. An amazing record. But the tsunami may have been just too much for them to handle.
569. DEKRE
Grothar (repeat)

Something for you (and other people who read german)

Link
Oh boy.
571. DEKRE
Quoting atmoaggie:
If I were in a decent-sized ship well away from the coasts, I'd have no fear of a tsunami. Great place to be for one...

You left out that those few centimeters in the ocean would occur over time scales of more than 10 minutes. It would take sensitive vertical GPS equipment to notice it.


That follows from the great wave-length
" The Tokyo Electric Power Company has said radiation may already have been released at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant".

TV news say that radiation levels are 8X higher than normal from that release
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
.


Hey, there
Quoting Floodman:


I just saw this one...Grothar, you sacreligious man you



Hehehe! How you doing, Flood? Some of these pictures are hard to watch. You want to help, but don't know how.
Quoting jeffs713:

True. Ancient Aliens tend to ignore Subpoenas.


Talk about illegals...ooops, I shouldn't have mentioned that!

Uploaded by samfarmar on Mar 11, 2011

An hour after the first tsunami wave hit Kona, Hawaii - I popped down to see the damage but didn't fully anticipate the surges that follow. A little close!




Quoting FloridaHeat:
Do you all really think this could have something to do with aliens?


This is a gag, right?
Quoting FloridaHeat:
I have a feeling this will be more costly than the Haiti earthquake.
That wouldn't be surprising. The Japanese have more to destroy.... in terms of lives lost? I'm not so sure the death toll will get that high. [At least I hope not.]
Quoting DEKRE:
Grothar (repeat)

Something for you (and other people who read german)

Link


Danke. Had read about the big hole in the north pole ozone somewhere else, not sure of where though.
Quoting BahaHurican:
That wouldn't be surprising. The Japanese have more to destroy.... in terms of lives lost? I'm not so sure the death toll will get that high. [At least I hope not.]
iam afraid the opening bid on loss of life will start at 100,000 most of that will be missing and presume well it don't look good
Quoting Floodman:


Talk about illegals...ooops, I shouldn't have mentioned that!


I always wondered: if aliens came down and landed without crossing a border, then are they "illegal"? What law would they have broken? Think about it. :)
Quoting Patrap:
Uploaded by samfarmar on Mar 11, 2011

An hour after the first tsunami wave hit Kona, Hawaii - I popped down to see the damage but didn't fully anticipate the surges that follow. A little close!






May I quote some very intelligent people for you? "Run away, run away!"
#
2149: The Kyodo news agency is now citing a safety panel as saying that the radiation level inside one of the reactors at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant is 1,000 times higher than normal.

BBC
Quoting HarryMc:

I always wondered: if aliens came down and landed without crossing a border, then are they "illegal"? What law would they have broken? Think about it. :)


I'd like to refer you to Robert Heinlein's great story, The Man Who Sold the Moon, where our hero figures out that land rights need to go vertical as well as horizontal, figured out what land the moon actually traversed over, an bought what he could to get a majority holding on the moon. Ah, Mr. Heinlein, I miss ya.
An estimated 23,000 gallons of jet fuel leaked out of a storage tank near Aniak this week, possibly through a partially open valve, according to the state Department of Environmental Conservation, which is overseeing the cleanup. "It is a very large spill. There is no question about that," said Bob Carlson, a Bethel-based environmental specialist with the DEC. The spill at a tank farm owned by Crowley Petroleum Services occurred sometime between noon Monday and 12:15 p.m. Tuesday, when it was discovered, according to a DEC situation report. Aniak is on the south bank of the Kuskokwim River about 320 miles west of Anchorage. The tank farm is about a mile west of the village near the Kuskokwim River. A worker making a routine inspection noticed fuel pooling outside the tank within a lined, secondary containment area, said Mark Miller, Crowley's Jacksonville, Fla.-based communications director. Crowley has hired two contractors to clean up the spill, Miller said. "We're there for as long as it takes," he said. The fuel leaked from a 220,000-gallon tank that contained about 80,000 gallons before the spill, Carlson said. It is being collected in a low area and pumped into a recovery tank. By the end of the workday Thursday, crews expected to have recovered 4,500 to 5,000 gallons, Miller said. The containment area is surrounded by 8-foot-high berms. While the tank farm is within a few hundred feet of the river, there's no evidence any fuel escaped the bermed area or contaminated the river, Miller said. Carlson said he plans to head to Aniak Friday to investigate. "Apparently, it leaked out into the snow and was captured by the snow and hopefully stayed there," Carlson said. Crowley says it is investigating the cause of the spill. One of its workers found a partially open valve on the tank and stopped the leak by shutting the valve, the DEC said. "If it's human error, that's very unfortunate," he said.
Quoting DEKRE:
Grothar (repeat)

Something for you (and other people who read german)

Link


Haven't heard this before. Maybe I'll translate it for atmo. He might find it interesting. This could be a very serious situation. Thank you for sharing. (Sind Sie Deutsche?)
Quoting Skyepony:
An estimated 23,000 gallons of jet fuel leaked out of a storage tank near Aniak this week,


There's man's pride again, thinking he can build an unleakable fuel tank. Hah!
Quoting HarryMc:

I always wondered: if aliens came down and landed without crossing a border, then are they "illegal"? What law would they have broken? Think about it. :)


Loitering!
Quoting klaatuborada:


I'd like to refer you to Robert Heinlein's great story, The Man Who Sold the Moon, where our hero figures out that land rights need to go vertical as well as horizontal, figured out what land the moon actually traversed over, an bought what he could to get a majority holding on the moon. Ah, Mr. Heinlein, I miss ya.

grok! me too. loved that sci fi writer along with frank herbert, of course who had all those fine ladies bossing everyone around with 'the voice' haha.
590. DEKRE
Quoting Grothar:


Haven't heard this before. Maybe I'll translate it for atmo. He might find it interesting. This could be a very serious situation. Thank you for sharing. (Sind Sie Deutsche?)


Originally
Quoting DEKRE:
Grothar (repeat)

Something for you (and other people who read german)



Extremen ya!
#
2153: The pressure inside one of the six Boiling Water Reactors (BWRs) at the Fukushima-Daiichi plant has built up because the cooling system was damaged by the earthquake. The heat produced by the nuclear reaction inside the core still needs to be dissipated even after a shutdown. If the outage in the cooling system persists, eventually radiation could leak out into the environment, and, in the worst case, could cause a reactor meltdown, experts say.

BBC


and now this is getting scarier by the hour
Quoting Chicklit:

grok! me too. loved that writer.



Grok back at 'cha! Lazarus Long lives!
LinktoUKGuardianarticleon reactor melt down crisis inJapan

what a mess. worst case scenario.

Excerpt from article cited above:
Another nuclear expert said that if the water cooling system had broken down, the consequences could be dire.

"One critical safety issue is the maintenance of water cooling systems to ensure that the nuclear fuel inside the reactor core does not heat up to unsafe levels," said Shaun Burnie, a consultant on the nuclear industry.

He said the reactor's operator, Tokyo Electric, had apparently been unable to pump cooling water into the 40-year-old reactors for at least three hours.

"The possibility is that the reactor fuel is already damaged. If they are unable to restore coolant pump capacity then the fuel will continue to heat up, eventually the fuel will be exposed to air at which point a whole series of events can unfold, including steam explosions, fuel meltdown and worse case is loss of containment. The last thing the people of Japan need after the tragedy of this earthquake and tsunami is a nuclear catastrophe."
Large areas are still underwater ..... a scientist live on Nhk said its unusual as it should be draining out to sea. I wonder if the ground levels dropped, like in Chile where they rose.
Reuters breaking
Japan says radiation at Fukushima plant not at level that requires workers’ evacuation

That's something.

Some of the scenes really are staggering.
Another take on the reactor situation:
http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Environment/2011/ 03/11/Japan-quake-exposes-risky-nuclear-decisions/
Quoting sunlinepr:
" The Tokyo Electric Power Company has said radiation may already have been released at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant".

TV news say that radiation levels are 8X higher than normal from that release

Corroboration
Quoting Patrap:
Uploaded by samfarmar on Mar 11, 2011

An hour after the first tsunami wave hit Kona, Hawaii - I popped down to see the damage but didn't fully anticipate the surges that follow. A little close!

Nice. Dumb, but nice. I've been right there on the Kona Promenade. A bit touristy, but the sunsets can be awesome.

Google Street View
Quoting Grothar:



Hehehe! How you doing, Flood? Some of these pictures are hard to watch. You want to help, but don't know how.


I'm pretty good, Gro...
Quoting klaatuborada:
I remember when Chernobyl blew they grabbed anyone they could to try to help mop and work on fixing it. All of those people died very quickly. I pray for those at the plant right now. They may already know their time is limited.

This is the scariest, to me, of everything else that is happening, and why I've never been keen on nuclear reactors built near fault lines, or just built, as man's pride is always saying he can build things safely, but I ain't buying it.


There is zero similarity between a modern nuclear plant here or in Japan and Chernobyl. The Soviets built that plant with no containment vessel so when there was a problem there was nothing to stop the radiation.

We can either have a nation and a world in the image of the unibomber or accept that there are certain risks in anything we do in modern society.
Quoting klaatuborada:



Grok back at 'cha! Lazarus Long lives!


You bet he does! I know him (actually, Gro and I both do)...nice enough young fella!
Quoting ycd0108:
Another take on the reactor situation:
http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Environment/2011/ 03/11/Japan-quake-exposes-risky-nuclear-decisions/


Your link is broken, let's try this:

Here
Quoting Floodman:


You bet he does! I know him (actually, Gro and I both do)...nice enough young fella!


Don't let him fool ya, he's not young, and watch out for any women you care for, cause he's a leacherous old coot!
Quoting twincomanche:


There is zero similarity between a modern nuclear plant here or in Japan and Chernobyl. The Soviets built that plant with no containment vessel so when there was a problem there was nothing to stop the radiation.

We can either have a nation and a world in the image of the unibomber or accept that there are certain risks in anything we do in modern society.


But if history has taught us anything it is that we are not infallible. Let us hope that the tradition of saving face and Japan's bureaucratic mastery of covering up to avoid scandal does not rear it's ugly head here.
Quoting klaatuborada:


Your link is broken, let's try this:

Here


I think this is fear mongering at this point. This is far from a catastrophe right now. Let's try not to get ahead of ourselves here.
Quoting klaatuborada:


Don't let him fool ya, he's not young, and watch out for any women you care for, cause he's a leacherous old coot!


Hey, Mrs. Grothar reads this blog sometimes. She already doesn't believe I have that much interest in weather!
Quoting twincomanche:


There is zero similarity between a modern nuclear plant here or in Japan and Chernobyl. The Soviets built that plant with no containment vessel so when there was a problem there was nothing to stop the radiation.

We can either have a nation and a world in the image of the unibomber or accept that there are certain risks in anything we do in modern society.


Back that up a step or two, comanch...there's a serious difference between the risks of industrialization and having someone build a nuclear "pile" next door. Typically you can still grow things and breathe the air oin an industrial area...on the other hand, what's the half life of Cesium-137?

Don;t get me wrong, I'm with you on nuclear power, but shrugging off the risks isn't devil-may-care or brave; it's stupid...
Devastation...
Quoting klaatuborada:


But if history has taught us anything it is that we are not infallible. Let us hope that the tradition of saving face and Japan's bureaucratic mastery of covering up to avoid scandal does not rear it's ugly head here.

Trying to cover things up is not limited to the government of Japan. LOL.
Quoting klaatuborada:


Don't let him fool ya, he's not young, and watch out for any women you care for, cause he's a leacherous old coot!


Ahhh, but he's an honorable (to a point) lecherous old coot...wait, are we talking about Laz or Grothar here?
Quoting Floodman:


Back that up a step or two, comanch...there's a serious difference between the risks of industrialization and having someone build a nuclear "pile" next door. Typically you can still grow things and breathe the air oin an industrial area...on the other hand, what's the half life of Cesium-137?

Don;t get me wrong, I'm with you on nuclear power, but shrugging off the risks isn't devil-may-care or brave; it's stupid...


I live 30 miles downwind in the prevailing wind from a Nuke plant and I sleep very well at night. When I can't sleep it's not worrying about that.


Just popping in, I think we may find the position of the city to the wave may have attributed to the unusual movement and charactaristics of the waters impact the Doc referenced earlier. Several other areas which sustained damage had coastlines that were conducive in providing and environment for water convergence similar to that of which we have witnessed with respect to storm surge from hurricanes on varying coastline structure/water depth, etc.

Additionally, I just heard while driving an AP release that the radiation is now 1000 times normal around the reactor. I don't know if that has indeed been confirmed with authorities or not.

Prayers to all affected >>> out>>>
Quoting twincomanche:

Trying to cover things up is not limited to the government of Japan. LOL.


Did not mean to infer that only Japan did this. It is a general fault of mankind I believe. Just look at the child who tries to hide whatever has broken. It is inherent in us all. There is a history of this in Japan that gives me pause.
Quoting Floodman:


Ahhh, but he's an honorable (to a point) lecherous old coot...wait, are we talking about Laz or Grothar here?


Perhaps both?
worst case scenario? what could happen? jane fonda was great in this movie.
617. srada
CNN showing the bullet train..stranded on the tracks
To clarify my remarks, maybe part of my attitude is because my Brother in law is a operator and a nuclear engineer at a plant and we have spent a lot of time talking about the back ups to the back ups that are in these plants. I am not sure anyone quite has a grasp on the enormity of this earthquake. This will go down as one of the BIG ones that no one designed anything for. I am amazed that more buildings have not collapsed in Tokyo.

That's like complaining when the roof comes off your house after a cat 5 hurricane because the code said you only had to build it to 130 knot winds.
Quoting srada:
CNN showing the bullet train..stranded on the tracks


do not see that this is the one reported missing.
Thanks Klaatuborada
Works for me (your link, that is)
Quoting klaatuborada:


But if history has taught us anything it is that we are not infallible. Let us hope that the tradition of saving face and Japan's bureaucratic mastery of covering up to avoid scandal does not rear it's ugly head here.


Japan just suffered a horrible disaster, and you're talking about their government covering up scandal. Really?
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2239: Japanese nuclear safety officials have said the problems at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear power plant represent "no immediate health hazard" to people living nearby. Some 45,000 people living within a 10km (6-mile) radius of the plant were told to evacuate as radiation levels rose to 1,000 times above normal in one reactor.

BBC
Quoting twincomanche:


I live 30 miles downwind in the prevailing wind from a Nuke plant and I sleep very well at night. When I can't sleep it's not worrying about that.


I know what you mean. I live between a superfund site and a lumpa-big nuke. Between those, our water and air are analyzed more than anywhere else I know of. Both are always wicked clean and we get the independent analyses to prove it.

Worked making reactor cores in my early career days and not worried about nuke safety measures at all. Even 1000 times "normal" like those reports say still "ain't much to talk about" as they say.
Quoting Jedkins01:


Japan just suffered a horrible disaster, and you're talking about their government covering up scandal. Really?


Did you read what I was responding to? Really? The entire thread? Did you?
Quoting twincomanche:


I live 30 miles downwind in the prevailing wind from a Nuke plant and I sleep very well at night. When I can't sleep it's not worrying about that.


Good for you...if anything does happen at the plant you will have been lethally dosed before anyone can warn you anyway, right?

Kind of like how I deal with flying: if something did happen there wouldn't be much I could do, and in most scenarios I wouldn't even have time to think "What was that?"
Quoting islander101010:
worst case scenario? what could happen jane fonda is great in this movie.


What happened in China Syndrome is junk science. This could not happen.
Quoting Floodman:


Good for you...if anything does happen at the plant you will have been lethally dosed before anyone can warn you anyway, right?

Kind of like how I deal with flying: if something did happen there wouldn't be much I could do, and in most scenarios I wouldn't even have time to think "What was that?"


"God, give us grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things
which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish
the one from the other."
Quoting DEKRE:
Grothar (repeat)

Something for you (and other people who read german)

Link


Thanks for sharing. Could that phenomenon be linked to the inredibly cold winter here in the UK? And is it likely to persist? In any case, I better remember to put my sun screen on and stay out of the sun around mid-day, if the ozone level is so low. I hope we won't get to Australian levels in terms of UV exposure.
Quoting islander101010:
worst case scenario? what could happen? jane fonda was great in this movie.


No, the worst case scenario for me would be watching Jane Fonda in this movie...
Quoting taistelutipu:


Thanks for sharing. Could that phenomenon be linked to the inredibly cold winter here in the UK? And is it likely to persist? In any case, I better remember to put my sun screen on and stay out of the sun around mid-day, if the ozone level is so low. I hope we won't get to Australian levels in terms of UV exposure.


Lucky you, you get to go out into the sun. I am allergic to the sun. "Run away, run away...!"
Quoting twincomanche:


What happened in China Syndrome is junk science. This could not happen.


Exactly...just like the idiots that were screaming about the explosive danger of the plant they built in central Missouri 30 years ago...they don't blow up, and in the west, at least, they're built for safety.

The nuclear industry has come a long way since Fermi built his reactor under the bleachers at U of C.

The only issue is the lethality in the event that something DID happen...
Quoting klaatuborada:


No, the worst case scenario for me would be watching Jane Fonda in this movie...


LOL.+
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2252: The Tokyo Electric Power Company has said the cooling systems of three reactors at second nuclear power plant, Fukushima-Daini, are malfunctioning, according to the Kyodo news agency. The plant is 11km (7 miles) to the south of Fukushima-Daiichi, where the cooling system one of its reactors is not working and pressure is rising.

BBC
Quoting klaatuborada:


No, the worst case scenario for me would be watching Jane Fonda in this movie...


Can you imagine Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan starring in a remake of China Syndrome... maybe music theme by Lady GaGa??
Quoting Ossqss:


Just popping in, I think we may find the position of the city to the wave may have attributed to the unusual movement and charactaristics of the waters impact the Doc referenced earlier. Several other areas which sustained damage had coastlines that were conducive in providing and environment for water convergence similar to that of which we have witnessed with respect to storm surge from hurricanes on varying coastline structure/water depth, etc.

Additionally, I just heard while driving an AP release that the radiation is now 1000 times normal around the reactor. I don't know if that has indeed been confirmed with authorities or not.

Prayers to all affected >>> out>>>


Just a point on the AP release as to if the radiation is a 1000 greater than normal? what is normal in this area and is a 1000 times greater than it dangerous?
IE. if one part /million is normal is 1000/million dangerous?
What would be considered a ''SAFE'' level to work in and if its unsafe why are they working in it!
This thing might turn into a mess like 3 mile island did.
With the chaos they must have there at the moment nothing is safe and nobody has had to defuse a nuclear reactor in a 9+ earthquake zone before with aftershocks.
Quoting Floodman:


Exactly...just like the idiots that were screaming about the explosive danger of the plant they built in central Missouri 30 years ago...they don't blow up, and in the west, at least, they're built for safety.

The nuclear industry has come a long way since Fermi built his reactor under the bleachers at U of C.

The only issue is the lethality in the event that something DID happen...


No argument here, although there are a lot of ways to die. Anxiety being one.
Quoting Jedkins01:


Japan just suffered a horrible disaster, and you're talking about their government covering up scandal. Really?


Yes, really...the earthquake doesn't somehow make all that go away and if the government of Japan has covered things up in the past then there is an expectation that they might be less than honest in the wake of the earthquake.
Another link for those who can read German: The waves of the quake in Japan were measured in Karlsruhe, Germany and they lead to minor shifts in an ancient volcanic area in Germany, what is nowadays the valley of the river Rhine. The institute measured a shift of almost 1 cm, i.e. 0.4 inches.
Quoting HarryMc:


Can you imagine Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan starring in a remake of China Syndrome... maybe music theme by Lady GaGa??


Wow! Just the thought of all those disasters in one place is boggling my mind! I don't know which would be considered worse! The China Syndrome shrinks in comparison!
Quoting klaatuborada:


Wow! Just the thought of all those disasters in one place is boggling my mind! I don't know which would be considered worse! The China Syndrome shrinks in comparison!


Exactly.
Quoting PlazaRed:


Just a point on the AP release as to if the radiation is a 1000 greater than normal? what is normal in this area and is a 1000 times greater than it dangerous?
IE. if one part /million is normal is 1000/million dangerous?
What would be considered a ''SAFE'' level to work in and if its unsafe why are they working in it!
This thing might turn into a mess like 3 mile island did.
With the chaos they must have there at the moment nothing is safe and nobody has had to defuse a nuclear reactor in a 9+ earthquake zone before with aftershocks.


In the long run no one was injured in the Three Mile Island "mess" as you put it. Only because of a ignorant media and ignorant politicians has that plant never been restarted.
Quoting twincomanche:


"God, give us grace to accept with serenity
the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things
which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish
the one from the other."


Life is about the decisions we make and how we deal with the result when those are good...or bad.

Again, I'm all for nuclear power: for the most part it's clean, it's safe and above all, we have fuel for a very long time...
Quoting twincomanche:


In the long run no one was injured in the Three Mile Island "mess" as you put it. Only because of a ignorant media and ignorant politicians has that plant never been restarted.


There's still some real estate for sale there, you buying?
Quoting klaatuborada:


There's still some real estate for sale there, you buying?

The Brother in Law says the containment vessel has the cleanest water on the planet inside it's been filtered so many times yet they won't allow it to be dumped. Now that's junk science at it's best.
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Quoting Floodman:


Back that up a step or two, comanch...there's a serious difference between the risks of industrialization and having someone build a nuclear "pile" next door. Typically you can still grow things and breathe the air oin an industrial area...on the other hand, what's the half life of Cesium-137?

Don;t get me wrong, I'm with you on nuclear power, but shrugging off the risks isn't devil-may-care or brave; it's stupid...


Coal plants put out far more harmful materials, including radioactive materials, than a nuclear plant does. And unlike nuclear plants which contain nice solid packages of waste, coal plants pump it straight into the environment.

A recent report from Oak Ridge National Laboratory concludes that coal power actually results in more radioactivity being released into the environment than nuclear power operation, and that the population effective dose equivalent from radiation from coal plants is 100 times as much as from ideal operation of nuclear plants. Indeed, coal ash is much less radioactive than nuclear waste, but ash is released directly into the environment, whereas nuclear plants use shielding to protect the environment from the irradiated reactor vessel, fuel rods, and any radioactive waste on site.

Thorium based reactors would be 100% safe as they need a neutron source to initiate the reaction. No neutron source, no reaction. However, given the massive regulatory hurdles in place around anything with "nuclear", it has been difficult if not impossible for much R&D in this field. Uranium is still the "easiest and cheapest", so like oil, I doubt we will see thorium reactors until uranium becomes so expensive that alternatives are seriously looked at.

Also:
One mandated safety indicator is the calculated probable frequency of degraded core or core melt accidents. The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) specifies that reactor designs must meet a 1 in 10,000 year core damage frequency, but modern designs exceed this. US utility requirements are 1 in 100,000 years, the best currently operating plants are about 1 in 1 million and those likely to be built in the next decade are almost 1 in 10 million.

I would much rather live next to a nuclear plant than a coal plant.



Ok people, honestly.

Realisticly, it is completely impossible to build something to withstand an 8.9 quake.

Had the sort of 4 to 10 ft faulting we saw elsewhere happened directly under one of these nuclear reactors, it would have split wide open.

No matter how strong you build a road, bridge, or reactor, at some point it will fail anyway in a big enough quake, simply because the foundation will crack, or the earth itself below the foundation will crack or sink, and either way, things like power lines and coolant pipes will be damaged.


You can even see in some of the videos where things like some of the bridges actual structural components did not fail at all. They simply fell over because the ground itself ruptured. It wouldn't matter if the bridge had been ten times better, it would have fallen down anyway.
Quoting Floodman:

Corroboration


Sorry, was out of the blog, but now that 8X radiation level is old news...

Actual news:

Japan quake causes emergencies at 5 nuke reactors


TOKYO -Japan declared states of emergency for five nuclear reactors at two power plants after the units lost cooling ability in the aftermath of Friday's powerful earthquake. Thousands of residents were evacuated as workers struggled to get the reactors under control to prevent meltdowns

Authorities said radiation levels had jumped 1,000 times normal inside Unit 1 and were measured at eight times normal outside the plant. They expanded an earlier evacuation zone more than threefold, from 3 to 10 kilometers (2 miles to 6.2 miles). Some 3,000 people had been urged to leave their homes in the first announcement.

Link
Quoting sunlinepr:


Sorry, was out of the blog, but now that 8X radiation level is old news...

Actual news:

Japan quake causes emergencies at 5 nuke reactors


TOKYO -Japan declared states of emergency for five nuclear reactors at two power plants after the units lost cooling ability in the aftermath of Friday's powerful earthquake. Thousands of residents were evacuated as workers struggled to get the reactors under control to prevent meltdowns

Authorities said radiation levels had jumped 1,000 times normal inside Unit 1 and were measured at eight times normal outside the plant. They expanded an earlier evacuation zone more than threefold, from 3 to 10 kilometers (2 miles to 6.2 miles). Some 3,000 people had been urged to leave their homes in the first announcement.

Link



I simply do not understand why these things aren't designed so that "some" of the fuel source could be pulled manually (either by a robot or at least some last ditch heroics,) to at least lower the overall density of the source material.


One of the News channels even quoted a Japanese spokesperson who allegedly said they had, "Lost control" of the cooling at two reactors.


To me, it doesn't seem right that they are downplaying this. Why would the radiation levels be 1000 times above normal unless the reactor was fused and not shut down properly? Why would radiation outside the core be 8 times normal, unless there was an actual breach somewhere?

They said they might need to vent radioactive water vapor, but that doesn't seem consistent with the reports. The 8 times number was supposed to be outside the gate of the plant. Surely super-heated water vapor would go straight up into the atmosphere and be carried away by the wind, not deposit right outside on the front lawn...
Quoting DEKRE:


This is called "Natural Selection"


At least they all get a Darwin award. It's so tragic to see this needless loss of life in the face of a catastrophe that gave so many no choice.

WTO