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First EF-4 tornado of 2013 injures 82 near Hattiesburg, MS

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:10 AM GMT on February 12, 2013

The strong tornado that swept through Hattiesburg and Oak Grove in Lamar County, Mississippi, on Sunday has been rated an EF-4 with 170 mph winds, making it the first violent EF-4 tornado of 2013. The tornado hit Hattiesburg at 5:12 pm CST February 10, injuring 82 people and causing widespread damage over a 20-mile-long path. Miraculously, there were no deaths.The only other violent EF-4 tornado ever to hit Lamar County occurred on April 24, 1908, according to NWS Jackson.


Figure 1. Oak Grove High School football field near Hattiesburg, MS after Sunday's tornado. Damage was rated EF-4 near the high school, and there was clear evidence of the tornado being multi-vortex over a portion of its path. Image credit: NWS Jackson Facebook page.

The 2013 tornado season is off to an unusually busy start--a pattern we also saw last year. The January 29 - 30, 2013 tornado outbreak now has 56 confirmed tornadoes, including the only EF-3 tornado of the year, which hit Adairsville, GA, on January 30, killing one person. The outbreak is now ranked as the second largest January tornado outbreak since records began in 1950 (the largest: 128 tornadoes on January 21 - 22, 1999 .) NOAA's Storm Prediction Center logged twelve preliminary reports of tornadoes on Sunday, from Mississippi and Alabama. This brings the tally of preliminary tornado reports for the year to 100. On average, we've had just 72 preliminary tornado reports by February 10 during the previous seven years, 2005 - 2011.


Video 1. Hotel worker Rynal Grant caught this impressive video of the February 10, 2013 Hattiesburg, Mississippi tornado.

Portlight receives $125,000 grant for New Jersey relief efforts
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Jeff Masters
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
This photo provided by Jordan Holliman shows a tornado moving through Hattiesburg, Miss., Sunday, Feb. 10, 2013. Major damage was reported in Hattiesburg and Petal, including on the campus of the University of Southern Mississippi. (AP Photo/Jordan Holliman)
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
A business at 5133 Lincoln Road Extension in Hattiesburg, Miss., is damaged after an apparent tornado Sunday, Feb. 10, 2013. (AP Photo/Chuck Cook)
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
Hattiesburg, MS Tornado
A heavily damaged vehicle sits near the front of the University of Southern Mississippi on Hardy Street in Hattiesburg Miss., Feb 10, 2013 after a tornado passed through the city Sunday afternoon. (AP Photo/Hattiesburg American, Ryan Moore)

Tornado

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Reader Comments

Quoting Tazmanian:




your late
lol be nice taz
Quoting Tazmanian:




your late

And your point is at pointing that out? Maybe not everyone knows Sandy's TCR was out. Not everyone sits in front of there pc/laptop/tablet/cellphone 24/7 on this blob reading every single comment that everyone posts. Some of us do have lives outside of this blog. Unlike "some" on here. Maybe you need to stop being the blog police Mr Taz, Cause your not doing a very good job.
Quoting Tazmanian:




your late


That's nice. Figured as much, but thought I'd share anyway.
Quoting AussieStorm:

And your point is at pointing that out? Maybe not everyone knows Sandy's TCR was out. Not everyone sits in front of there pc/laptop/tablet/cellphone 24/7 on this blob reading every single comment that everyone posts. Some of us do have lives outside of this blog. Unlike "some" on here. Maybe you need to stop being the blog police Mr Taz, Cause your not doing a very good job.
Plus, I didn't even know Sandy TCR was out until someone mentioned it on this blog around 12 pm EST (when Sandy's TCR was actually released around 8 am EST). I was glad someone mentioned about it or I would've not heard about it until right now.
Quoting nymore:
The problem is not the car, the problem is the battery. Battery technology has basically not changed in 100 years, until there is better storage technology it will be a failure. Solar and wind have the same problem. Hopefully things will change in the storage area.


How about this one from last year? Link

I would drive one, if I had $52K somewhere :)
Quoting Minnemike:
well now how cool is that!
it Is fixed for we classicWu'ers ^_^
was still acting up this morning, had been irking me for a week, even had to go to the new-fangled modern version just to witness the major events of late..
i am most pleased!


You are correct. Mine is back to normal. Don't know who to thank for that. Maybe they saw your comment this morning and asked who changed that and made them put it back the way it was. Life is good again, ... lol
Quoting LostTomorrows:


That's nice. Figured as much, but thought I'd share anyway.

Don't worry about him. He's the would-be blog police. When actually he's just a pain in the retina.

GFS is predicting a new Tropical cyclone



Also another in the SW Pacific Islands
Quoting Levi32:
418. Based on his previous comments on the subject, I would guess Maue is being sarcastic.
I was thinking the same. Though Bastardi took him seriously.
I want you
I want you so bad
I want you
I want you so bad
It's driving me mad
Quoting goosegirl1:


How about this one from last year? Link

I would drive one, if I had $52K somewhere :)
What does that have to do with the performance of the vehicle. Until the car can do what Americans cars can do now the vast and I mean vast majority of Americans will not buy them. Tesla wants to sell 20,000 this year according to the story by comparison Ford sells more F150 pick-ups in 12 days
My next holiday location.


Lizard Island

Lizard Island is the Northern most beach resort in Australia.
Quoting AussieStorm:
My next holiday location.


Lizard Island

Lizard Island is the Northern most beach resort in Australia.
Is there beer there Aussie?
So much for that 80% likely watch

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Is there beer there Aussie?

LOL. I bloody well hope so.
Quoting goosegirl1:


How about this one from last year? Link

I would drive one, if I had $52K somewhere :)


That is one of the only ones with decent range.
Quoting AussieStorm:

LOL. I bloody well hope so.
I would never go anywhere with beer... One time in Band Camp.... Oh, nevermind
Quoting TomTaylor:
Its hard to tell if Ryan is being serious or sarcastic here since Ryan is usually a very sarcastic and cynical guy.

We can just give Ryan the benefit of the doubt in this case. :)
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I would never go anywhere with beer... One time in Band Camp.... Oh, nevermind

I've never been anywhere where there wasn't beer. And if there was, I wouldn't stay there.
Quoting AussieStorm:

I've never been anywhere where there wasn't beer. And if there was, I wouldn't stay there.
Spent a few weeks in Edinburg Scotland last year... Went into the local pub on Princess Street... Asked for the local brew... This guy handed me this quart can of "WARM" beer called EXPORT... I learned to like it... Or die
Here is new invest 98W southsouthwest of Yap.

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Spent a few weeks in Edinburg Scotland last year... Went into the local pub on Princess Street... Asked for the local brew... This guy handed me this quart can of "WARM" beer called EXPORT... I learned to like it... Or die

You went to the wrong pub. My cousin took me to one and the beer was ice cold, just the way it should be.
Quoting AussieStorm:

You went to the wrong pub. My cousin took me to one and the beer was ice cold, just the way it should be.
Dammit Jim..My uncle Peter took me there...He lives in BroomHouse...
What's going on with the Navy TC page

I get

403 Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /TC.html on this server.

I've had this link for years.
Tropical Cyclone Gino.
I was at work today.... I checked in every once in a while...What a knock down drag out day on the blog today.... Too funny
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Spent a few weeks in Edinburg Scotland last year... Went into the local pub on Princess Street... Asked for the local brew... This guy handed me this quart can of "WARM" beer called EXPORT... I learned to like it... Or die


That would make me want to stop drinking. Well, if I hadn't already done so. Warm beer just isn't right. In less you were brought up that way.
Looks like a no-go for today's severe weather event.


MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0159
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0517 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2013

AREAS AFFECTED...SRN MS - SRN AL - FL PANHANDLE - FAR SWRN GA

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE

VALID 122317Z - 130015Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...40 PERCENT

SUMMARY...ROBUST TSTM DEVELOPMENT AND SUSTENANCE OVER THE NEXT
SEVERAL HOURS IS UNCERTAIN AND A POTENTIAL SEVERE RISK IS SEEMINGLY
BECOME MORE LIMITED IN SPATIAL EXTENT. CONVECTIVE TRENDS WILL
CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS REGARDING THE
NEED FOR A POSSIBLE TORNADO WATCH.

DISCUSSION...SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SHOW A STATIONARY FRONT
APPROXIMATELY 40 MI INLAND FROM THE MS/AL/FL PANHANDLE COASTS. THE
LAST SEVERAL HOURS HAVE SHOWN LITTLE IN THE WAY OF INTENSE UPDRAFTS
SOUTH OF THE BOUNDARY AND MUCH OF THE RECENT TSTM ACTIVITY OVER SRN
AL HAS MOVED N AND BECOME ELEVATED IN CHARACTER. AS SUCH...THE
WEAKLY BUOYANT SURFACE-BASED AIRMASS HAS BEEN CONFINED TO NEAR THE
COAST LIMITING THE RESIDENCE TIME FOR STORMS TO MATURE AND INTENSIFY
FURTHER.

MODEL GUIDANCE --PARTICULARLY CONVECTION-ALLOWING MODELS-- ARE
SUBDUED IN SHOWING VIGOROUS STORMS DEVELOPING ACROSS THIS REGION
DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON-EVENING HOURS...WHICH SEEMS TO AGREE WITH
OBSERVATIONS TO THIS POINT. NONETHELESS...AN UPTICK IN STORM
STRENGTH AND POTENTIAL SEVERITY IS STILL POSSIBLE AS A SRN PLAINS
SPEED MAXIMUM ENCROACHES ON THE AREA LATER TONIGHT. THUS A LOW RISK
FOR A FEW SEVERE STORMS WILL PERSIST THROUGH THE EVENING
HOURS...INCLUDING A CONDITIONAL PROBABILITY FOR AN ISOLD TORNADO.

..SMITH/KERR.. 02/12/2013
Evening Everyone! Hi Aussie! :-) I'm running from a front line, and having a blast. :-D I'll be on till about 8ish, maybe longer. Well, lets hope to it!

WunderGirl12
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Spent a few weeks in Edinburg Scotland last year... Went into the local pub on Princess Street... Asked for the local brew... This guy handed me this quart can of "WARM" beer called EXPORT... I learned to like it... Or die


Warm beer? That just sounds wrong, even to a minior. *yuck* My dad likes his beer ICE cold.
Lol, SPC is not having a good time today. Three MDs for the same area, one with a 95% watch probability, then 80%, now a new one at just 40%. Just goes to show even the best forecasters out there struggle sometimes. Radar definitely doesn't look too threatening on the Gulf Coast right now.
nevermind

Quoting PedleyCA:


That would make me want to stop drinking. Well, if I hadn't already done so. Warm beer just isn't right. In less you were brought up that way.
Pedley, When the barkeep in Scotland ask you if you want another one...
Tell her no, no, no ,no, no, no ,no no..
Don't leave her now for her love belongs to me
Quoting AussieStorm:
What's going on with the Navy TC page

I get

403 Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /TC.html on this server.

I've had this link for years.

Whoa, that is weird. I just tried my bookmarked link, which was working before, and I get the same message.

EDIT: working for me now.
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Dammit Jim..My uncle Peter took me there...He lives in BroomHouse...

Jim?
My cousins live in Craiglockhart. Been there twice in 91 and 97. In 97 I was 21, the trip was my 21st birthday present. My cousin took me to a nice little pub with all my other cousins, they came from all over Scotland and England. As it was my Auntie and Uncles 50th wedding anniversary. The oldies partied at home and the youngins went out to the pub then onto a local night club.

Looks like another strong low developing in the NW Pacific.

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I want you
I want you so bad
I want you
I want you so bad
It's driving me mad



Yeah... I have that effect on people.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Don't worry about him. He's the would-be blog police. When actually he's just a pain in the retina.

GFS is predicting a new Tropical cyclone



Also another in the SW Pacific Islands

peculiar...
as for the tcr, what was actually changed?
Quoting AussieStorm:
What's going on with the Navy TC page

I get

403 Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /TC.html on this server.

I've had this link for years.

I had the same issue earlier today but it seems to be working now.

Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
Here is new invest 98W southsouthwest of Yap.


peculiar
Quoting AussieStorm:
My next holiday location.


Lizard Island

Lizard Island is the Northern most beach resort in Australia.


A little different from where I want to go next summer...

Cartwright, Labrador:


A 2,250 km drive to the Labrador Coast is what I have planned.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Jim?
My cousins live in Craiglockhart. Been there twice in 91 and 97. In 97 I was 21, the trip was my 21st birthday present. My cousin took me to a nice little pub with all my other cousins, they came from all over Scotland and England. As it was my Auntie and Uncles 50th wedding anniversary. The oldies partied at home and the youngins went out to the pub then onto a local night club.

Looks like another strong low developing in the NW Pacific.



Hey Aussie, did you have fun at the night club??
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



Yeah... I have that effect on people.
I thought so Doug...You damn northerners
PlazaRed was talking about 11 meters of snow and wanting a song. Here is a video with a train removing snow in Arthurs Pass in Christschurch New Zealand....

Snowplow

edit: best I could do...
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I thought so Doug...You damn northerners


Hahaha...can we stop with the curse words??
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

I had the same issue earlier today but it seems to be working now.


Yeah, it's working fine for me right now. Must've been having some issues, or updating the website.
This was issued a couple hours ago by the Taunton, MA NWS office. It just offers a confirmation of some reporting sites that experiences blizzard conditions this past Friday and Saturday.

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA
455 PM EST MON FEB 11 2013

...BLIZZARD OF 2013...

BLIZZARD CONDITIONS WERE REACHED AT MANY LOCATIONS ACROSS SOUTHERN
NEW ENGLAND DURING THE STORM ON FEBRUARY 8 AND 9. THUS IT IS SAFE TO
CALL THIS THE BLIZZARD OF 2013 FOR SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND. CERTAINLY
PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THIS EVENT WAS THAT IT WAS MOST DEFINITELY A
BLIZZARD.

THE STRICT DEFINITION OF A BLIZZARD IS THAT FALLING AND/OR BLOWING
SNOW REDUCES VISIBILITY TO BELOW 1/4 MILE ALONG WITH WINDS THAT
FREQUENTLY GUST TO 35 MPH OR MORE...AND THAT THESE BLIZZARD
CONDITIONS ARE THE PREDOMINANT REPORTED CONDITION FOR 3 CONSECUTIVE
HOURS.

WHEN REVIEWING WHETHER A PARTICULAR OBSERVATION LOCATION HAD
BLIZZARD CONDITIONS...WE COUNTED VISIBILITIES EQUAL TO 1/4 MILE
SINCE THAT IS QUITE LOW FOR AN AUTOMATED VISIBILITY SENSOR TO BE
ABLE TO DETECT. WE ALSO MADE SOME SUBJECTIVE DECISIONS. FOR
EXAMPLE...IN MANCHESTER NH...BLIZZARD CONDITIONS WERE MET FOR A
CONSECUTIVE 2 HOURS 40 MINUTES...AND WE CONSIDERED THIS CLOSE ENOUGH
TO THE 3 HOUR REQUIREMENT. AT BOSTON LOGAN INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORT...WITHIN A 6-HOUR PERIOD BLIZZARD CONDITIONS WERE OBSERVED
FOR 4 OF THOSE HOURS. THUS WE DECIDED TO COUNT THIS EVEN THOUGH
THERE WERE ONLY 2 CONSECUTIVE HOURS.

THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATION SITES CLEARLY HAD BLIZZARD CONDITIONS.
DURATIONS LISTED ARE APPROXIMATE...

WORCESTER MA.... 8 HOURS
NORWOOD MA...... 7.5 HOURS
NORTH SMITHFIELD RI...5.5 HOURS
BEDFORD MA...... 4.5 HOURS
FALMOUTH MA..... 4.5 HOURS
NEW BEDFORD MA...4.5 HOURS
NEWPORT RI.......3.5 HOURS
HARTFORD CT......3.0 HOURS...AT BRAINARD FIELD

THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATION LOCATIONS WERE DETERMINED TO HAVE ALSO HAD
A BLIZZARD...

WESTFIELD MA.....2.75 HOURS...ROUNDED UP TO 3
MANCHESTER NH....2.75 HOURS...ROUNDED UP TO 3
MARSHFIELD MA....2.5 HOURS BEFORE POWER WENT OUT BUT LIKELY CONTD
BOSTON MA........2.0 HOURS CONTINUOUS...BUT 4 OF 6 HOURS BLIZZARD
TAUNTON MA.......2.0 HOURS CONTINUOUS...AT LEAST 3.5 HOURS TOTAL
BEFORE DATA OUTAGE

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE FOLLOWING SITES HAD NEAR-BLIZZARD
CONDITIONS...

PROVIDENCE RI
WESTERLY RI
CHICOPEE MA

THE FOLLOWING SITES MAY HAVE HAD BLIZZARD CONDITIONS BUT DATA WERE
LOST AT THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM...

BEVERLY MA
PLYMOUTH MA

$$
FIELD
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Hahaha...can we stop with the curse words??
Darnit
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
Rough day KEEPER?
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

I had the same issue earlier today but it seems to be working now.


Yeah, the site is back up, not sure what happened. In all the years I have visited the Navy TC site that was the 1st time I've had that problem.
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Darnit


lol. :-P thanks for stopping. :-D
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Hey Aussie, did you have fun at the night club??

Hey WUGirl. Yeah I did. well, sorta. I woke up the next morning 90% deaf and a hole burnt in my jeans.
Jim Cantore %u200F@JimCantore

Snowfall chances increasing more on the southeast coast than the northeast coast this weekend:


Quoting AussieStorm:

Hey WUGirl. Yeah I did. well, sorta. I woke up the next morning 90% deaf and a hole burnt in my jeans.
Happens to me maybe one every week... But Hey... I ride my bike 10 miles and I feel better... Sometimes
um.... What happened to the info on the side of the ATCF?

Quoting AussieStorm:

Hey WUGirl. Yeah I did. well, sorta. I woke up the next morning 90% deaf and a hole burnt in my jeans.


hahaha. sounds like A LOT of fun for me! :-P How'd you get a hole in your jeans??
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Happens to me maybe one every week... But Hey... I ride my bike 10 miles and i feel better... Sometimes

What happens to you. Getting a hole burnt in your jeans or 90% deafness?
Quoting AussieStorm:

Hey WUGirl. Yeah I did. well, sorta. I woke up the next morning 90% deaf and a hole burnt in my jeans.
Can't help you with the hole in the jeans...Well, Maybe
Quoting PedleyCA:
I want you


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utVR3EgQkHs

Sorry about this but there are times when you have to come to face with reality!

"%u201CIs a Dream a Lie If It Don%u2019t Come True, Or Is It Something Worse!"
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Rough day KEEPER?
naw i always have a good day even if its a bad day
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I thought so Doug...You damn northerners



Men, women, dogs, cats, it's a curse.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
naw i always have a good day even if its a bad day

"I need to laugh, and when the sun is out
I've got something I can laugh about"
Quoting PedleyCA:
PlazaRed was talking about 11 meters of snow and wanting a song. Here is a video with a train removing snow in Arthurs Pass in Christschurch New Zealand....

Snowplow

Brilliant, Just Brilliant!
Quoting WunderGirl12:


hahaha. sounds like A LOT of fun for me! :-P How'd you get a hole in your jeans??

Long story. But the short story is. Someone I met there didn't like me and they put a cigarette in my slightly turned up jeans leg. I didn't even notice it until I woke up the next morning when I got dressed at my cousins house. I saw the hole the size of maybe 2inches roundish with burn marks around the size.
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Can't help you with the hole in the jeans...Well, Maybe

The jeans ended up in the bin.
Quoting StAugustineFL:


SPC Excerpt: ...ERN GULF COAST/SRN GA REGION...
THIS OUTLOOK REPRESENTS EWD EXTENSION OF DAY-1 SVR POTENTIAL INTO
ROUGHLY FIRST 9 HOURS OF PERIOD...UNTIL TWO RELATED FACTORS COMBINE
TO REDUCE THREAT...
1. VEERING OF PREFRONTAL BOUNDARY-LAYER FLOW RELATED TO SHIFT OF
STRONGEST CYCLONICALLY ASSOCIATED ISALLOBARIC FORCING OFF CAROLINAS
AND FARTHER AWAY FROM THIS AREA. RESULT SHOULD BE REDUCTION WITH
TIME OF BOTH SHEAR AND FRONTAL CONVERGENCE IN LOW LEVELS.
2. DEPARTURE OF MID-UPPER WAVE...RELATED WEAKENING OF MID-UPPER
LEVEL LARGE-SCALE ASCENT OVER SERN CONUS...AND MOVEMENT OF SFC FRONT
AHEAD OF THAT WEAKENING ASCENT.

HOWEVER...BEFORE THOSE PROCESSES ARE COMPLETE...AND ESPECIALLY
BEFORE 21Z...SVR POTENTIAL WILL LINGER IN FORM OF DAMAGING GUSTS AND
CONDITIONAL TORNADO RISK. WHILE OPTIMAL/MARITIME-TROPICAL SFC AIR
WILL REMAIN OVER OPEN GULF...MID-60S F SFC DEW POINTS SHOULD OCCUR
INLAND FROM SERN AL EWD ACROSS SRN GA AND SWD TO NRN FL AND
CENTRAL-ERN PANHANDLE. THIS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO YIELD SFC-BASED
EFFECTIVE INFLOW PARCELS IN MODIFIED FCST SOUNDINGS. DEEP-LAYER
SHEAR WILL SUPPORT SVR POTENTIAL. INTENSE MIDLEVEL WINDS SHOULD
OFFSET VEERING SFC FLOW TO MAINTAIN 55-65 KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR
MAGNITUDES. MEANWHILE COMBINATION OF DIABATIC SFC HEATING -- MUTED
BY CLOUD COVER -- AND BOUNDARY-LAYER THETAE ADVECTION SHOULD
COUNTERBALANCE WEAK MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES ENOUGH FOR 500-800 J/KG
MLCAPE. GIVEN GEOMETRY OF LOW-MIDDLE LEVEL WINDS WITH RESPECT TO
BOUNDARY...DOMINANT MODE SHOULD BE QUASI-LINEAR...BUT A FEW
SUPERCELLS ARE POSSIBLE. COVERAGE WILL BE MODULATED SOMEWHAT BY
AFOREMENTIONED WEAKENING LIFT AND BY STABLE LAYER AROUND 700 MB
EVIDENT IN FCST SOUNDINGS.




Local NWS graphic/discussion.



...Locally heavy rainfall over southeast Georgia... ...Strong to Severe storms possible... A cold front will approach the area on Wednesday bringing widespread showers and thunderstorms. Some storms may become strong to severe with strong winds and isolated tornadoes possible. Rainfall amounts over southeast Georgia today through Wednesday will be 1-2 inches with locally higher amounts possible. High temperatures will be in the 70's on Wednesday along with breezy conditions.



Be careful, don't be surprised if you got robbed, I'm seeing a lot of convective inhibition to the west. Here in Tallahassee, I'm starting to wonder if this event will materialize to anywhere near what they are saying, so far the models have been wrong. Hopefully it's just a timing issue and we'll start seeing large scale lift in the warm sector.


However, there is still hope, there is still plenty of time, it just doesn't look good right now for those in north Florida who need rain. As I said though, it may just be a timing issue, we'll see.
I thought I would just share this.

Off topic but the wack job in California has killed other cop.
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



Men, women, dogs, cats, it's a curse.
Love my cats... I had the most wonderful cat a few years ago... He was a Maine Coon Cat... I miss him dearly... His name was "Pretty Boy" So sad... He got attacked by a wild animal here in south Florida.... He was my best friend...Sorry for crying.
897
SXUS74 KAMA 122333
RERAMA

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AMARILLO TX
0525 PM CST TUE FEB 12 2013

...RECORDS FOR DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL AND PRECIPITATION SET AT
AMARILLO...

THERE WAS 4.7 INCHES OF SNOWFALL AT AMARILLO TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE
OLD RECORD OF 2.4 INCHES WHICH WAS SET IN 2004.


THERE WAS A LIQUID EQUIVALENT OF 0.5 INCHES FROM THE SNOW THAT FELL
TODAY. THIS TIED THE LIQUID PRECIPITATION RECORD THAT WAS LAST SET
IN 1906.

$$

NF

Link
Quoting AussieStorm:

Long story. But the short story is. Someone I met there didn't like me and they put a cigarette in my slightly turned up jeans leg. I didn't even notice it until I woke up the next morning when I got dressed at my cousins house. I saw the hole the size of maybe 2inches roundish with burn marks around the size.


Poor you Aussie!!! :-P Well, that was the past. :-)
Quoting nymore:
Off topic but the wack job in California has killed other cop.

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters
Deputy wounded in shootout with gunman thought to be fugitive ex-LAPD policeman dies: Los Angeles Times
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Poor you Aussie!!! :-P Well, that was the past. :-)

16 years ago. How time flies.
Quoting AussieStorm:

16 years ago. How time flies.


16 years ago! Ohh My!
Quoting nymore:
Off topic but the wack job in California has killed other cop.


They also have him cornered up in Seven Oaks Calif. I know the place, my brother in law used to have a trailer up there.
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Love my cats... I had the most wonderful cat a few years ago... He was a Maine Coon Cat... I miss him dearly... His name was "Pretty Boy" So sad... He got attacked by a wild animal here in south Florida.... He was my best friend...Sorry for crying.




Sorry for the loss of your pet. I know the feeling.
Got to bale out now as the midnight plus "1" is about and tomorrow is yet another day less!
Thanks for the company people far and wide( Thin too)
Morning Aussie. Oh,I'll no doubt see you about lunch time. PlazaRed.
Quoting PensacolaDoug:




Sorry for the loss of your pet. I know the feeling.


So do I. My sister's pet mouse Pearl died in September... :'-(
Thank you for the wonderful blog post. I really hope the death toll stays at 0 in Hattiesburg.

Sincerely,

AETHOMAS
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5.2 earthquake, 71km W of Tonopah, Nevada. Feb 12 16:10 at epicenter (6m ago, depth 7km).

Link
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


That residual from North Korea
Anyone watching the Reed Timmer Show on now.
Mike Theiss is the guest Link
Nevada quake downed a bit to a 4.9.

Edit: And now back up to 5.1.
Currently in SoCal.
The News here said either he set the house on fire or SWAT did it with a flash grenade. But as Aussie posted he is screwed now....
Quoting PedleyCA:
The News here said either he set the house on fire or SWAT did it with a flash grenade. But as Aussie posted he is screwed now....

Supposedly SWAT fired explosives into the cabin and it's very much engulfed in flames. Not sure if Dorner has used the fire as a diversion to escape.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Nevada quake downed a bit to a 4.9.

Edit: And now back up to 5.1.

Back down to 4.9

== PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE REPORT == ***This event has been revised. Region: NEVADA
Geographic coordinates: 38.022N, 118.048W
Magnitude: 4.9
Depth: 9 km
Universal Time (UTC): 13 Feb 2013 00:10:14
Time near the Epicenter: 12 Feb 2013 16:10:14
Local standard time in your area: 13 Feb 2013 00:10:14
Location with respect to nearby cities:
27 km (17 miles) S (171 degrees) of Tonopah Junction, NV
44 km (27 miles) WNW (284 degrees) of Weepah, NV
53 km (33 miles) SE (127 degrees) of Qualeys Camp, NV
72 km (45 miles) W (266 degrees) of Tonopah, NV
304 km (189 miles) E (100 degrees) of Sacramento, CA
NOAAHurricaneHunters ‏@NOAA_HurrHunter
The crew and #NOAA49 (#NOAA G-IV) are more than half way done with today's mission. We've sampled surface winds greater than 40 kt
I guess the storms won't fire up tonight...
535 AussieStorm: Jim?

McCoy's StarTrek catch phrase transformed via SaturdayNightLive parody into the now familiar

So familiar that often the first two words suffice to invoke the meme.
Quoting AussieStorm:
NOAAHurricaneHunters ‏@NOAA_HurrHunter
The crew and #NOAA49 (#NOAA G-IV) are more than half way done with today's mission. We've sampled surface winds greater than 40 kt

I'm looking for recon info but can't find any. But i did find this not sure if anyone else has seen it. Looks like Christa Clynch Hornbaker is retiring from the Hurricane hunters.
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URNT11 KBIX 260305
97779 01264 10287 86000 79300 03022 7480/ /8048
RMK AF303 1609A ISAAC OB 22
Signing off with my last recco - God Bless all past Hurricane Hunters and God's Speed to all those who carry on.
It has been a wonderful ride! Christa Clynch Hornbaker - LAST REPORT
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #8
CYCLONE TROPICAL GINO (08-20122013)
4:00 AM RET February 13 2013
=======================================

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Gino (965 hPa) located at 18.4S 79.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 75 knots with gusts of 105 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south at 8 knots.

Hurricane Force Winds
======================
50 NM radius from the center

Storm Force Winds
=================
70 NM radius from the center, extending up to 90 NM in the southern semi-circle and the northeastern quadrant

Gale Force Winds
==================
100 NM radius from the center, extending up to 150 NM in the southwestern and northeastern quadrant, and up to 180 NM in the southeastern quadrant

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
140 NM radius from the center, extending up to 220 NM in the southern semi-circle and the northeastern quadrant

Dvorak Intensity: T5.0/5.0/D1.0/18 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
========================
12 HRS: 20.0S 79.5E - 85 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
24 HRS: 21.7S 79.8E - 85 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
48 HRS: 25.4S 82.8E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
72 HRS: 26.9S 86.8E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)

Additional Information
======================
As the signature on microwaves data GOES on improving, the eye appears always irregular on infrared meteosat7 channels, disappearing temporally within a colder central dense overcast more symmetrical.

Gino is moving southwards on the western edge of the low to mid level ridge. Within the next 24 hours, system should begin to recurve south southeastwards then southeastwards under the combined effects of the ridge existing in the east and a mid-level through arriving in the southwest. Available numerical weather prediction models are in good agreement to this scenario.

Over this forecast track, conditions are favorable for intensification as a strong outflow channel is building poleward. System should then reach its maximum intensity today. On and after Tuesday, beyond 21.0S, a westerly to northwesterly vertical wind shear should rapidly strengthen, and system is shifting over marginal heat oceanic content.

System is therefore expected to quickly weaken by decelerating on a southeastwards then eastwards track on the northeastern edge of a rebuilding low level ridge. Next residual low should track westwards as it undergoes the steering easterly trade winds influence.
Quoting Bluestorm5:
I guess the storms won't fire up tonight...

I think whatever you are sick with is contagious over the internet. I am getting pretty sick and might not be going until school. And yeah looks like a no-go, maybe tomorrow though.
Quoting wxchaser97:

I think whatever you are sick with is contagious over the internet. I am getting pretty sick and might not be going until school. And yeah looks like a no-go, maybe tomorrow though.


Dang it, not another friend sick, :( Get better Isaac, Cody and everyone in chat need you.

I was promised showers, and I don't even see that happening.
Quoting wxchaser97:

I think whatever you are sick with is contagious over the internet. I am getting pretty sick and might not be going until school. And yeah looks like a no-go, maybe tomorrow though.
LOL, my bad! Maybe tomorrow.
Quoting wxchaser97:

I think whatever you are sick with is contagious over the internet. I am getting pretty sick and might not be going until school. And yeah looks like a no-go, maybe tomorrow though.

You stay sick.

More severe weather for southeast TX and south central LA??
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
Here is new invest 98W southsouthwest of Yap.


Forecast track for 98W
Quoting AussieStorm:

Forecast track for 98W

Where do you get this map?
Am I the only one who finds this odd?

Hurricane taking on the shape of a nor'easter:



Nor'easter taking on the shape of hurricane:
Quoting Bluestorm5:
LOL, my bad! Maybe tomorrow.

Actually, definitely not going tomorrow.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You stay sick.

Thanks for those encouraging words -_-
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You stay sick.


Two days till Valentine's Day and you break your Valentine's heart like that, shame. Apologize mister.
Quoting Stormchaser121:

Where do you get this map?

From a friend. hehe
Quoting AussieStorm:

From a friend. hehe

I keep trying to look for it...cant find it anywhere.
Quoting wxchaser97:

Thanks for those encouraging words -_-

No problem.

Quoting Astrometeor:


Two days till Valentine's Day and you break your Valentine's heart like that, shame. Apologize mister.

I couldn't care less about Valentine's Day.
Quoting Stormchaser121:

I keep trying to look for it...cant find it anywhere.

Here
Quoting AussieStorm:

Here

Thanks! :)
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

No problem.


I couldn't care less about Valentine's Day.


I bet.



;)
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

No problem.


I couldn't care less about Valentine's Day.


single people say that...it's normal
Gino..

Quoting ChillinInTheKeys:


Link

Birmingham Radar shows parts of Alabama have had 19" of rain since it reset on Sunday. Wow.

A bit of an overestimation. Although raw radar from just one site has estimated rainfall of up to that amount, a combination of radar, rain gauges, and human QA/QC has a lower value:
http://water.weather.gov/precip/index.php?yday=13 60670400&yday_analysis=0&layer[]=0&layer[]=1&layer []=4&timetype=RECENT&loctype=STATE&units=engl&time frame=last7days&product=observed&loc=stateAL

Have to be careful with raw radar estimates... they are not as widely used as they used to be. Radars, on average, underestimate at the close ranges, overestimate at the medium ranges, and then overestimate again at the long ranges.

(Click image for full map)

The GFS 120hr accumulated snowfall prediction for Colorado shows up to 18" in the northern mountains. Looks like the Front Range will get some too...

Of course, the GFS said we'd get 4-6" last weekend and we ended up with about 1.5"... so I'll believe it when I see it.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Hey WUGirl. Yeah I did. well, sorta. I woke up the next morning 90% deaf and a hole burnt in my jeans.



That's why I don't go to clubs, well, that and a many other myriad of reasons...
From Taunton, MA NWS...

THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATION SITES CLEARLY HAD BLIZZARD CONDITIONS.
DURATIONS LISTED ARE APPROXIMATE...

WORCESTER MA.... 8 HOURS
NORWOOD MA...... 7.5 HOURS
NORTH SMITHFIELD RI...5.5 HOURS
BEDFORD MA...... 4.5 HOURS
FALMOUTH MA..... 4.5 HOURS
NEW BEDFORD MA...4.5 HOURS
NEWPORT RI.......3.5 HOURS
HARTFORD CT......3.0 HOURS...AT BRAINARD FIELD

THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATION LOCATIONS WERE DETERMINED TO HAVE ALSO HAD
A BLIZZARD...

WESTFIELD MA.....2.75 HOURS...ROUNDED UP TO 3
MANCHESTER NH....2.75 HOURS...ROUNDED UP TO 3
MARSHFIELD MA....2.5 HOURS BEFORE POWER WENT OUT BUT LIKELY CONTD
BOSTON MA........2.0 HOURS CONTINUOUS...BUT 4 OF 6 HOURS BLIZZARD
TAUNTON MA.......2.0 HOURS CONTINUOUS...AT LEAST 3.5 HOURS TOTAL
BEFORE DATA OUTAGE
Quoting aspectre:
535 AussieStorm: Jim?

McCoy's StarTrek catch phrase transformed via SaturdayNightLive parody into the now familiar

So familiar that often the first two words suffice to invoke the meme.



I'm surprised this didn't get banned yet, maybe the moderator sympathized with you, lol.
Quoting wxgeek723:
Am I the only one who finds this odd?

Hurricane taking on the shape of a nor'easter:



Nor'easter taking on the shape of hurricane:


That's part of what I love about natural science, it "breaks the rules" so to speak.
Mother Nature hates me.

But you know what?

I didn't want her stupid rain anyways.

Quoting ScottLincoln:

A bit of an overestimation. Although raw radar from just one site has estimated rainfall of up to that amount, a combination of radar, rain gauges, and human QA/QC has a lower value:
http://water.weather.gov/precip/index.php?yday=13 60670400&yday_analysis=0&layer[]=0&lay er[]=1&layer []=4&timetype=RECENT&loctype=STATE&uni ts=engl&time frame=last7days&product=observed&loc=state AL

Have to be careful with raw radar estimates... they are not as widely used as they used to be. Radars, on average, underestimate at the close ranges, overestimate at the medium ranges, and then overestimate again at the long ranges.



It depends on the radar site too, the one at Ruskin often underestimates totals by a long shot. I've seen many times where rain gauges report 2 to 4 times as much rain as the radar depicts over the region during the rain season in tropical air masses

Typically, stratiform rain with large rain drops is the most over-estimated light precip type on radar. Whereas convection with a warm atmospheric column and a lack of ice in the cumulonimbi tops with smaller rain drops is the most underestimated type of heavy precip.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:br /I couldn't care less about Valentine's Day.


No e-chocolates for you then. Sheesh.

Although, I will do something for MY Valentine at school tomorrow since she won't be at school on Thursday.
Quoting Jedkins01:



That's why I don't go to clubs, well, that and a many other myriad of reasons...


Aha, you're married, right?
Quoting Jedkins01:



That's why I don't go to clubs, well, that and a many other myriad of reasons...

I haven't been to a night club since. Just have no reason to, plus I am married with 2 kids.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Mother Nature hates me.

But you know what?

I didn't want her stupid rain anyways.


Turn off your weather shield.
Some people can’t be reasoned with

Posted on February 13, 2013

If you keep an eye on global warming denier blogs, you expect to see some pretty stupid stuff. But every now and then they exceed expectation. Sometimes they even take it to a new level. This particular bit was featured by Anthony Watts, but it originates with Steve Goddard.


The stunning announcement is “Most Ice Gain Ever Recorded.” It refers to the fact that Arctic sea ice has increased since its September minimum by a larger amount than in any previously observed season (at least, during the satellite era). For this graph, the “gain” seems to be defined as the difference between each year’s Feb. 12 value and its preceding September minimum (based on satellite data from Cryosphere Today).



Anthony Watts calls this a “stunning rebound” and further opines “This continued growth of ice in the Arctic make the arguments for ice mass loss in Antarctica rather hard to believe.”

What’s really rather hard to believe is that these people can actually be that blinded by ideology, or gullible, or stupid, or all three. What’s really stunning is the vanishing of Arctic sea ice, during all months, all seasons of the year, at its annual minimum and its annual maximum.
...
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FXUS62 KTAE 130333
AFDTAE

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
1033 PM EST Tue Feb 12 2013

...Slight risk of severe storms overnight along with potential for
heavy rain...

.NEAR TERM [Through Wednesday Morning]...
Updated 1030pm.
Very well defined warm front is currently lifting north across
the forecast office. As of 03Z, the boundary stretched from near
Tifton westward through Geneva County in southeast Alabama. North
of the front, temperatures are in the mid 50s with northeast
winds. Just south of the front, temperatures rise into the lower
70s on gusty southerly winds. Dewpoints south of the front are
well into the upper 60s. Surface low is analyzed over southern
Mississippi. This low will lift northeast overnight, pushing the
warm front farther north. The trailing cold front will then cross
the area late tonight and into Wednesday morning. Combined with
the low level conditions, strong mid and upper level westerly flow
is generating a marginally favorable environment for severe storms
overnight.So far, deep convection has struggled to develop in the
warm sector, possibly owing to some weak large scale subsidence in
the wake of an exiting shortwave. This negative forcing may help
to limit the severe threat overnight.
However, with the favorable
thermodynamic and kinematic environment in place, any deep
convection that does develop will have the potential to produce
damaging winds, isolated tornadoes, and large hail.

Heavy rain will continue to be a concern overnight, especially for
saturated areas of the panhandle, southeast Alabama, and southwest
Georgia. Any additional rain in these areas could result in
additional flooding.

For the evening grid update, adjusted temperatures to account for
the warm frontal position. Also updated the PoP grids to account
for recent radar trends.




Looks like my earlier suspicions are correct, while they didn't mention this, each piece of upper energy has passed further north than expected by the models and has bi-passed the gulf coast, hence the subsidence occurring in the wake of today's upper disturbance, the same thing that happened yesterday.

Surprisingly, forecasters are still calling for just as much heavy for the Florida Panhandle tonight. However, I can't help but be rather skeptical, yesterday and last night was supposed to be an 80% chance of thunderstorms with heavy rain wording and the Tallahassee area didn't even get a drop. Today the forecast was accurate, but tonight, well we'll see, but it doesn't look good.


I'm not saying it won't happen, but I'm losing confidence in a the development of a significant solid line of convection to organize like what is still being forecast.

I sure hope it does, cause if it doesn't this would be the 3rd frontal system in a row where we have been expected to see a lot of rain and instead get "robbed".

631. MTWX
Quoting AussieStorm:

I haven't been to a night club since. Just have no reason to, plus I am married with 2 kids.

I'm more of a catch a game at a small bar kinda guy myself....
Our only hope is this next approaching piece of shortwave energy in the western gulf, if this doesn't overcome the subsidence and stable surface layer, than I don't know what will:




I still have hope that there will be a decent line of storm setting up over the region tonight, but like I said, not with as high of a confidence level.
Quoting MTWX:

I'm more of a catch a game at a small bar kinda guy myself....

I don't mind going to the pub with my work mates on a Friday night after work but that's about it.
Quoting AussieStorm:

I haven't been to a night club since. Just have no reason to, plus I am married with 2 kids.


Good choice!
635. skook
A look back at Early seasons f4.

First up, the 1967 St. Louis Tornado outbreak.

The 1967 St. Louis tornado outbreak was the rare winter outbreak that occurred on January 24, 1967. Thirty-two tornadoes broke out from Oklahoma to Wisconsin. Fourteen tornadoes struck Iowa, nine in Missouri, eight in Illinois, and one in Wisconsin.

This outbreak broke a major record. The lone F3 tornado reported in Wisconsin was the farthest north in the United States that a tornado had ever occurred in January at the time. This would later happen again on January 7, 2008 when several tornadoes hit southeastern Wisconsin with a similar system. This outbreak is also possibly the farthest north a tornado outbreak has occurred in the winter.

The tornadoes broke ahead of a deep storm system. Several temperature records were broken in the Midwest on this day. One of the most notable tornadoes struck St. Louis County, Missouri where three people were killed and 216 were injured. The tornado ranked at F4 on the Fujita scale.

Two more tornadoes were reported in Newton County and Jasper County in southwestern Missouri just after midnight on January 26.

The next day thunderstorms produced sleet, freezing rain, and snow in St. Louis. Three days later, on January 27, a blizzard crippled Chicago, dumping 23 inches (58 cm) of snow on the city.
Link
Quoting 2ifbyC:


Aha, you're married, right?



Nope! I'm a single young man and a junior at FSU, not exactly married with kids, but you know, I have other reasons. The club is definitely not a wise place to go. We are supposed to be growing as young people and using our young live wisely while we still have it, not going backwards, backwards is what the club does to you.
Quoting AussieStorm:

I don't mind going to the pub with my work mates on a Friday night after work but that's about it.



There is a huge difference between that and the club :)
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Spent a few weeks in Edinburg Scotland last year... Went into the local pub on Princess Street... Asked for the local brew... This guy handed me this quart can of "WARM" beer called EXPORT... I learned to like it... Or die
PBW, that is good British ale or lager. I prefer a bitters. You get used to drinking it room temperature when it is cold outside. Love it!
I just walked 12.17 km (7.56 miles) (more or less).

Accuracy thanks to Google Earth.

Saw some deer. I definitely would've liked to post the pictures here.

But, I was unable to picture them; they ran away.

Better luck next time!
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


single people say that...it's normal

I have better things to do than put up with extra people. I think I'll stay single.

Quoting Astrometeor:


No e-chocolates for you then. Sheesh.

Although, I will do something for MY Valentine at school tomorrow since she won't be at school on Thursday.

I didn't want your stupid e-chocolate anyways.

Quoting AussieStorm:

Turn off your weather shield.

It's not on! :P

Quoting SteveDa1:
I just walked 12.17 km (more or less) (7.56 miles)

Accuracy thanks to Google Earth.

Saw some deer, I would've liked to post the pictures here.

But... I was unable to picture them; they ran away.

Better luck next time!

If you saw pictures run away you might want to go to the doctor. ;)

Just playing.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I have better things to do than put up with extra people. I think I'll stay single.


better things..stare at the computer all day? Doubt that when you see someone actually caring for you (in love) of the other way around.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
If you saw pictures run away you might want to go to the doctor. ;)

Just playing.


Now that you mention it, I am now in doubt...

But, after thinking through what happened to me earlier for about 5 minutes, I have come to the conclusion that it definitely was in fact the deer who ran away, not the pictures. ;)
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I have better things to do than put up with extra people. I think I'll stay single.


Party at Cody's house guys and girls!

I can learn something from Sandy's TCR. And other weather things, lol. It would be like a workshop lesson.

And Cody, if you need anything, just ask, I shall helps you!

;)
Quoting kwgirl:
PBW, that is good British ale or lager. I prefer a bitters. You get used to drinking it room temperature when it is cold outside. Love it!

Even when it's cold I can drink ice cold beer. Just need to keep your body warmer.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


Hey it's the short range severe weather king.
Nothing like checking the NAM the day before a tornado outbreak..



People forget its purpose, and what the capital M stands for, its "mesoscale".
Quoting wxchaser97:

Actually, definitely not going tomorrow.

Thanks for those encouraging words -_-
Hope you get well soon:).
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I have better things to do than put up with extra people. I think I'll stay single.


I didn't want your stupid e-chocolate anyways.


It's not on! :P


If you saw pictures run away you might want to go to the doctor. ;)

Just playing.
Once Cupid strike you there will be no turning back.
Quoting allancalderini:
Hope you get well soon:).Once Cupid strike you there will be no turning back.


totally agree with you man!
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


totally agree with you man!
;) yeah.
Quoting allancalderini:
Once Cupid strike you there will be no turning back.


LOL, nice comeback, read a week or so ago a poem from Ovid where he was insulting Cupid until Cupid struck him dumb with love.
Quoting Astrometeor:


LOL, nice comeback, read a week or so ago a poem from Ovid where he was insulting Cupid until Cupid struck him dumb with love.


read it too. LOL
Quoting Astrometeor:


LOL, nice comeback, read a week or so ago a poem from Ovid where he was insulting Cupid until Cupid struck him dumb with love.
Thanks.I read a similar story actually.
Quoting allancalderini:
Hope you get well soon:).Once Cupid strike you there will be no turning back.

Actually things have went downhill really fast, I went from a normal temp to 102F fever in about 2-3hrs.

I love how the GFS can give you an all snow system and drop several inches of snow to giving you an all rain until the very end event with a good amount of rain in just 2 runs.

00Z GFS:


12Z GFS:
Quoting wxchaser97:

Actually things have went downhill really fast, I went from a normal temp to 102F fever in about 2-3hrs.

I love how the GFS can give you an all snow system and drop several inches of snow to giving you an all rain until the very end event with a good amount of rain in just 2 runs.

00Z GFS:


12Z GFS:


I hated to tell you this but rapid onset of acute respiratory (and other) symptoms in combination with a rapid development of fever is usually indicative of influenza.
Quoting Jedkins01:



Nope! I'm a single young man and a junior at FSU, not exactly married with kids, but you know, I have other reasons. The club is definitely not a wise place to go. We are supposed to be growing as young people and using our young live wisely while we still have it, not going backwards, backwards is what the club does to you.


Day-um, ya don't know how refreshing and encouraging that sounds!!!
655. flsky
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Love my cats... I had the most wonderful cat a few years ago... He was a Maine Coon Cat... I miss him dearly... His name was "Pretty Boy" So sad... He got attacked by a wild animal here in south Florida.... He was my best friend...Sorry for crying.


So sorry to hear about your cat. Although I have yet to own one, this is my favorite breed.
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #9
CYCLONE TROPICAL GINO (08-20122013)
10:00 AM RET February 13 2013
=======================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Gino (960 hPa) located at 19.1S 79.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 75 knots with gusts of 105 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south southeast at 8 knots.

Hurricane Force Winds
======================
55 NM radius from the center

Storm Force Winds
=================
85 NM radius from the center, extending up to 90 NM in the southern semi-circle

Gale Force Winds
==================
120 NM radius from the center, extending up to 140 NM in the northeastern quadrant, and up to 170 NM in the southern semi-circle

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
150 NM radius from the center, extending up to 220 NM in the northeastern quadrant, and up to 230 NM in the southern semi-circle

Dvorak Intensity: T5.0/5.0/D1.0/24 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
========================
12 HRS: 21.1S 80.0E - 80 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
24 HRS: 22.9S 80.8E - 75 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
48 HRS: 26.0S 83.6E - 55 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
72 HRS: 26.6S 87.1E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)

Additional Information
======================
All latest available guidance for intensity estimates (manual Dvorak, SATCON, AMSU) suggest a current intensity in the 70-80 knots range. Consequently, vmax is set at 75 knots again for this advisory.

During the last 6 hours, a ragged eye has appeared within the central dense overcast

Gino is moving now south southeastwards on the western edge of the low to mid level ridge. Within the next 2 to 3 days, the system should round this ridge on a gradual southeastwards to eastwards track. Available numerical weather prediction models are in good agreement to this scenario.

Over this forecast track, conditions are still slightly favorable for intensification as a strong outflow channel is building poleward. System should then reach its maximum intensity today. On and after Tuesday, beyond 21.0S, a westerly to northwesterly vertical wind shear should rapidly strengthen, and system is shifting over marginal heat oceanic content.

System is therefore expected to quickly weaken and decelerating. Extratropical transition could begin Saturday.

Next residual low should track westwards as it undergoes the steering easterly trade winds influence.
Notice the freeze North of Tampa Bay warning....
Good Morning folks, still warm and humid and breezy here but we know a change is coming....well the Blogs Coffee is perked for when you get here..enjoy...have a great day everyone and stay safe out there.
"We can choose to believe that Superstorm Sandy, and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence," he said. "Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgement of science - and act before it" too late.

President Obama

My response. (Has now been withdraw as it has been pointed out I am wrong)

Correlation does not imply causation. There is no study that proves greenhouse gases are the cause of global warming. A recently leaked UN draft mentions that solar activity, of which very little is known about, could actually be the cause. There is consensus among scientists that changing solar radiation levels, which were the result of changes in the earth's axis, both caused and ended the ice age, and that carbon dioxide levels had no effect at all. Before the U.S. embarks on a multitrillion dollar spending spree on inefficient and expensive green energy we should have more certainty that it will actually have a measurable effect on the temperature and not a speculative guess. I have no problem with higher taxes on oil companies, but to use that revenue on worthless pet projects for democrats is a theft from the public. Spend it on unemployment insurance or anything that we know will actually help people.
Quoting LargoFl:
Good Morning folks, still warm and humid and breezy here but we know a change is coming....well the Blogs Coffee is perked for when you get here..enjoy...have a great day everyone and stay safe out there.

I'm just tucking into a cuppa Milo and a freshly baked Banana cake.
those with Citrus tree's..rejoice...........
...THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR THE FOLLOWING RIVERS IN FLORIDA...
APALACHICOLA RIVER NEAR BLOUNTSTOWN AFFECTING CALHOUN...FRANKLIN...GULF AND
LIBERTY COUNTIES

DUE TO HEAVY RAINFALL THIS EVENING UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM IS CAUSING FLOODING
IN THE APALACHICOLA RIVER BASIN.
A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE INTO SOUTH FLORIDA ON THURSDAY AND STALL
THROUGH FRIDAY. THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT CHANCE FOR THUNDERSTORMS
BOTH DAYS WITH AN OCCASIONAL LIGHTNING STRIKE AND BRIEF HEAVY
RAINFALL. A SECOND AND STRONGER FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH SOUTH
FLORIDA ON SATURDAY WITH MUCH COLDER TEMPERATURES EXPECTED SUNDAY
AND MONDAY MORNINGS. TEMPERATURES MAY FALL INTO THE 30S OVER THE
LAKE OKEECHOBEE REGION AND 40S ELSEWHERE.
In winter here by me aussie, im glad my county is surrounded by water..it keeps us a bit warmer than inland..sometimes keeps us above freezing..
SNOW FLAKES for DC?...............THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR THE MARYLAND PORTION OF THE
CHESAPEAKE BAY...TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER...AND ADJACENT COUNTIES IN
CENTRAL MARYLAND AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

RAIN IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE TO SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE WASHINGTON-
BALTIMORE METRO AREA THIS EVENING. LIGHT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS
ARE LIKELY THIS EVENING ACROSS CENTRAL MARYLAND...PARTICULARLY NEAR
THE MASON DIXON LINE.
Eric Fisher‏@EricFisherTWC

Winter Storm #Nemo really beat up the Cape Cod coastline. Some of the damage/pictures still coming in: Link
Quoting LargoFl:
In winter here by me aussie, im glad my county is surrounded by water..it keeps us a bit warmer than inland..sometimes keeps us above freezing..

Well, it helps that your in the sub-tropics.
Quoting Luisport:
Eric Fisher‏@EricFisherTWC

Winter Storm #Nemo really beat up the Cape Cod coastline. Some of the damage/pictures still coming in: Link


Thanks and wow. that is bad. If this was my house, I would be clearing it out asap before it falls.

Quoting AussieStorm:


Thanks and wow. that is bad. If this was my house, I would be clearing it out asap before it falls.

for a "nothing" storm this is really huge!
Quoting Luisport:
for a "nothing" storm this is really huge!

Oh, I wouldn't say it was a nothing storm. We saw the damage it did to the CT/MA coast. also 38" in nothing to sneeze about.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Oh, I wouldn't say it was a nothing storm. We saw the damage it did to the CT/MA coast. also 38" in nothing to sneeze about.
yes of course but nemo signify "nothing"...
Quoting Luisport:
yes of course but nemo signify "nothing"...


Nemo is a Latin word meaning "no man" or "no one". Nemo is also a Boy's name in latin
4 hLevi Cowan‏@TropicalTidbits

GEM solution is no picnic for northern New England:
Link
Good morning, all. Evening, Aussie. 47 degrees here with a wind chill of 41. But NO rain! Today or tonight the cold front moves in and we'll be in the upper 30's this time tomorrow morning. Highs in the upper 50's today.

There's an egg and sausage cassarole, biscuits and gravy and Canadian bacon on the sideboard. Help yourselves.
Quoting aislinnpaps:
Good morning, all. Evening, Aussie. 47 degrees here with a wind chill of 41. But NO rain! Today or tonight the cold front moves in and we'll be in the upper 30's this time tomorrow morning. Highs in the upper 50's today.

There's an egg and sausage cassarole, biscuits and gravy and Canadian bacon on the sideboard. Help yourselves.

Good Evening
I'm full from Banana cake and a hot cuppa milo.
Quoting AussieStorm:
Correlation does not imply causation.


No. Scientific studies imply causation. And they exist out the wazoo, overwhelmingly implicating human activities.

Quoting AussieStorm:
There is no study that proves greenhouse gases are the cause of global warming.


It depends on what you mean by "proves". Science doesn't deal in absolute proofs, unless you're talking about mathematics. But if you want "overwhelming body of evidence" as a standard, then yes, there's not only thousands of studies, but a large number of metastudies as well, conducted by the most esteemed scientific bodies in the world.

Quoting AussieStorm:
A recently leaked UN draft mentions that solar activity, of which very little is known about, could actually be the cause.


EVERY IPCC report has covered solar activity. All agree that it has an effect. All agree that the effect is negligible compared to the human-induced impact.

Quoting AussieStorm:
There is consensus among scientists that changing solar radiation levels, which were the result of changes in the earth's axis, both caused and ended the ice age, and that carbon dioxide levels had no effect at all.


Half correct. Yes, the Milankovitch cycles are due to changes in solar radiation levels caused by the precession of the Earth, and are the primary theorized cause of periodic ice ages. No, there is not in the least agreement that "carbon dioxide levels had no effect at all". Quite to the contrary, the primary criticism for the precession argument for the cause of periodic ice ages when it was proposed is that it's quite easy to calculate that the changes in solar radiation levels are not enough to change the climate that radically. Hence there has to be a "feedback mechanism" amplifying it. There is near universal agreement that this feedback mechanism is greenhouse gasses, primarily carbon dioxide.

Quoting AussieStorm:
Before the U.S. embarks on a multitrillion dollar spending spree on inefficient and expensive green energy


Your cost figures are not in line with studies, and the predominance of the evidence suggests that it overwhelmingly is a significant long-term money saver due to the reduction in climate amelioration and disaster-cleanup costs.

Quoting AussieStorm:
we should have more certainty that it will actually have a measurable effect on the temperature and not a speculative guess.


Approximately 98% of the world's active publishing climate scientists are in agreement on this one. How much more do you need?
Quoting AussieStorm:

Good Evening
I'm full from Banana cake and a hot cuppa milo.


Banana cake sounds wonderful. How are the storms and rain down your way?
Quoting KarenRei:


No. Scientific studies imply causation. And they exist out the wazoo, overwhelmingly implicating human activities.



It depends on what you mean by "proves". Science doesn't deal in absolute proofs, unless you're talking about mathematics. But if you want "overwhelming body of evidence" as a standard, then yes, there's not only thousands of studies, but a large number of metastudies as well, conducted by the most esteemed scientific bodies in the world.



EVERY IPCC report has covered solar activity. All agree that it has an effect. All agree that the effect is negligible compared to the human-induced impact.



Half correct. Yes, the Milankovitch cycles are due to changes in solar radiation levels caused by the precession of the Earth, and are the primary theorized cause of periodic ice ages. No, there is not in the least agreement that "carbon dioxide levels had no effect at all". Quite to the contrary, the primary criticism for the precession argument for the cause of periodic ice ages when it was proposed is that it's quite easy to calculate that the changes in solar radiation levels are not enough to change the climate that radically. Hence there has to be a "feedback mechanism" amplifying it. There is near universal agreement that this feedback mechanism is greenhouse gasses, primarily carbon dioxide.



Your cost figures are not in line with studies, and the predominance of the evidence suggests that it overwhelmingly is a significant long-term money saver due to the reduction in climate amelioration and disaster-cleanup costs.



Approximately 98% of the world's active publishing climate scientists are in agreement on this one. How much more do you need?

ok, I'm wrong. I withdraw my comment.
Quoting aislinnpaps:


Banana cake sounds wonderful. How are the storms and rain down your way?

My wife made it and it was delicious. Today no rain but it was threatening. Maybe more storms on Friday or Saturday.
It's a bit early for this. SE Georgia

Quoting KarenRei:


No. Scientific studies imply causation. And they exist out the wazoo, overwhelmingly implicating human activities.



It depends on what you mean by "proves". Science doesn't deal in absolute proofs, unless you're talking about mathematics. But if you want "overwhelming body of evidence" as a standard, then yes, there's not only thousands of studies, but a large number of metastudies as well, conducted by the most esteemed scientific bodies in the world.



EVERY IPCC report has covered solar activity. All agree that it has an effect. All agree that the effect is negligible compared to the human-induced impact.



Half correct. Yes, the Milankovitch cycles are due to changes in solar radiation levels caused by the precession of the Earth, and are the primary theorized cause of periodic ice ages. No, there is not in the least agreement that "carbon dioxide levels had no effect at all". Quite to the contrary, the primary criticism for the precession argument for the cause of periodic ice ages when it was proposed is that it's quite easy to calculate that the changes in solar radiation levels are not enough to change the climate that radically. Hence there has to be a "feedback mechanism" amplifying it. There is near universal agreement that this feedback mechanism is greenhouse gasses, primarily carbon dioxide.



Your cost figures are not in line with studies, and the predominance of the evidence suggests that it overwhelmingly is a significant long-term money saver due to the reduction in climate amelioration and disaster-cleanup costs.



Approximately 98% of the world's active publishing climate scientists are in agreement on this one. How much more do you need?


Beautiful. I tip my hat to you.
Oh no... It's Western Australia's turn to have bad bush fires.

South West residents at risk as fires burn



Two homes have been destroyed and others are under threat from bushfires burning in the shires of Bridgetown-Greenbushes, Nannup and Donnybrook-Balingup.
It has been reported that the historic Southampton Homestead, around 12 kilometres south of Balingup, was one of the houses which was destroyed.
A bushfire emergency warning was issued earlier this afternoon and remains in place for people south of Hay Road, west of South Western Highway, north of Brockman Highway and east of Wetherley Road. This includes the townsites of Greenbushes, the western part of Bridgetown, Hester Brook, Wandillup, Maranup and Southampton.
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Meanwhile, a bushfire 'watch and act' warning remains in place for people west of Greenbushes-Boyup Brook Road, Kendall Road, Winnejup Road, Wheatley Giblett Road and Carbanup Brook Road, and north of Glentulloch Road.
Homes in the areas listed are under direct threat. The fire that started at River Road yesterday has crossed the river and is burning in an eastern direction.
The Department of Fire and Emergency Services advise that those in the area are in danger and need to act immediately to survive. If the way is clear, leave now for a safer place.
People in the Shire of Bridgetown-Greenbushes that decide to leave are to place a green bag on their mail box or gate to advise firefighters that they have left.

Fire burning in the Greenbushes area. Photo: Michelle Ulph via Facebook
As embers are ahead of the fire, close all doors and windows, and turn off evaporative air conditioners, but keep water running through the system if possible.
Do not rely on mains water pressure as it may be affected. However, if you have access to a water tank and plan to stay and defend start patrolling around your house and put out spot fires.
If you cannot leave, you need to get ready to shelter in your home and actively defend it.
If you are not at home, it is too dangerous now to return.
Relocation information for both fires
People need to leave via Southampton Road to Brockman Highway or Maranup Ford Road towards Bridgetown.
The Bridgetown Recreation Centre has been set up as a relocation point.
Road closures for both fires
- Southampton Road between Hay Road and Maranup Ford Road.
- Maranup Ford Road between Greenbushes Road and Maranup Bridge.
- Spring Gully Road between Greenbushes and Southampton Road.
The Bibbulmun Track, including Kings Hut, is closed between Balingup and Donnelly River Village.




Nannup and Balingup
A bushfire 'advice' remains in place for people in an area between Nannup and Balingup in the Blackwood Valley.
Although there is no immediate danger people need to be aware and keep up-to-date.
The fires are believed to be some of the six bushfires that started following an intensive thunderstorm on Tuesday afternoon.
A seventh potential fire is being investigated.
Other fires are currently within containment lines but conditions are hot and dry with variable winds meaning the situation could change rapidly if fires break containment lines.
My cousin just sent me this photo. He's on a dozer in a coal mine in Scotland.



He now just sitting in his dozer as the snow is very heavy and is drifting making visibility difficult.
oh dear. 2 fire-fighters are dead in the Victorian Alpine area after a tree fell on there truck.


Two firefighters killed battling Victorian blaze.

Two firefighters have been killed in Victoria's alpine region.

They were working on the huge Harrietville blaze when a tree fell on their vehicle in the remote Buckland valley.

The Australian Workers Union (AWU) says the firefighters were employed by the Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE).

Police say the blaze and steep terrain are making it difficult to get to the scene.

"Our members have confirmed that two firefighters unfortunately lost their lives," AWU Victorian secretary Cesar Melhem said.

Mr Melhem says the deaths are a shattering loss for the firefighters' families, their workmates, the union and all Victorians.

"These DSE firefighters work in the most horrific conditions imaginable, away from the big centres, out in the bush, and with very little recognition for their heroic contribution to this state," he said.

"They have died heroes, which will be small comfort to those that grieve them."

The union says the identities of the firefighters have not been confirmed.

"The priority at this stage will be to recover the bodies because they're still behind the fire lines and attend to the rest of the firefighters making sure all of the support has been provided to them," Mr Melhem said.

He says their colleagues are receiving support.

"These firefighters are a very close group of people, they do depend on each other so I would say at this point in time they would be in a state of shock losing their comrades," he said.

"We have some of our officials on the scene as well to provide support to these firefighters and hopefully they'll be able to pull through."

The DSE and CFA had earlier said firefighters were making the most of mild weather conditions working around the clock to control hotspots and build containment lines around the fire.

The Harrietville fire has burned 27,000 hectares since it was started by lightning on January 21.

Another Victorian DSE firefighter died while working on bushfires in Tasmania last month.

Peter Cramer, a DSE firefighter and CFA volunteer from Tyers in Gippsland, was part of a contingent of more than 70 Victorian emergency services workers sent to Tasmania to help fight the fires.

Mr Cramer, 61, died on January 13 at Taranna, east of Hobart, while working on foot to identify potential containment lines on the southern boundary of the Forcett fire about three kilometres from the active fire edge.

ABC/AAP
BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
SPECIAL MARINE WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON SC
654 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHARLESTON HAS ISSUED A

* SPECIAL MARINE WARNING FOR...
COASTAL WATERS FROM SAVANNAH GA TO ALTAMAHA SOUND GA OUT 20 NM...
INCLUDING GRAYS REEF NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY...
WATERS FROM SAVANNAH GA TO ALTAMAHA SOUND GA EXTENDING FROM 20 TO
60 NM...

* UNTIL 830 AM EST

* AT 653 AM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 35
KNOTS...FROM SAPELO SOUND TO 7 NM NORTHWEST OF ALTAMAHA
SOUND...MOVING EAST AT 55 KT.

* SOME LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
BUOY BL...SAPELO BUOY S...ALT BUOY...BUOY J...BUOY 41008 AND DRH
BUOY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

PREPARE FOR STRONG WIND GUSTS AND SUDDEN WIND SHIFTS...STEEP AND
RAPIDLY BUILDING WAVES...DANGEROUS LIGHTNING AND POOR VISIBILITY IN
HEAVY RAIN AND BLOWING SPRAY. BE SURE ALL PASSENGERS ARE WEARING
APPROVED PERSONAL FLOATATION DEVICES. TURN ON BILGE PUMPS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 AM EST WEDNESDAY MORNING
FOR SOUTHEAST GEORGIA AND THE ADJACENT COASTAL WATERS.
Quoting AussieStorm:

ok, I'm wrong. I withdraw my comment.


I get nervous when you give up easy... You prolly need another beer.:)

Good evening' Mate!!

Morning everyone not down under!
Check this out.... Middle of the North Pacific.







Quoting indianrivguy:


I get nervous when you give up easy... You prolly need another beer.:)

Good evening' Mate!!

Morning everyone not down under!

I can't argue with solid facts mate. My feet aren't stuck in concrete. I can move from a brown field to the greener field next door
Everyone have a great Wednesday! Aussie, have a great Thursday!
HPC!
Quoting aislinnpaps:
Everyone have a great Wednesday! Aussie, have a great Thursday!

Have a great Ash Wednesday
Dr. Greg Forbes Torcon Index Wednesday, Feb. 13

Thunderstorms with heavy rain, isolated damaging gusts and tornadoes in southeast and east-central AL, central and south GA, central and east FL panhandle, north and central FL peninsula, southeast third of SC. A chance of morning hail in northwest GA.

TOR:CON
AL east-central, southeast - 3
FL central, east panhandle - 3
FL north, central peninsula - 2 to 3
GA east-central, southeast - 4
GA southwest, west-central - 3
GA northwest - less than 2
SC south - 4
SC northeast - 3
Thursday, Feb. 14
Scotland right now. Nemo pays a visit.











markvoganweather.com
@MarkVogan
“We’re using the atmosphere as an open sewer. It’s functionally insane." Al Gore 02/07/13

Article here.
Quoting ncstorm:

That should expire very soon. The storm is now over the Atlantic with Marine warning.

MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON SC
729 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

AMZ354-374-131330-
/O.CON.KCHS.MA.W.0003.000000T0000Z-130213T1330Z/
729 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

...A SPECIAL MARINE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 830 AM EST FOR
THE FOLLOWING AREAS...
COASTAL WATERS FROM SAVANNAH GA TO ALTAMAHA SOUND GA OUT 20 NM...
INCLUDING GRAYS REEF NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY...
WATERS FROM SAVANNAH GA TO ALTAMAHA SOUND GA EXTENDING FROM 20 TO
60 NM...

AT 729 AM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO
INDICATE A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING WINDS IN EXCESS
OF 35 KNOTS... FROM 9 MILES NORTHEAST OF 41008 TO 6 MILES WEST OF
41008...MOVING EAST AT 50 KT.

THESE STRONG THUNDERSTORMS WILL OTHERWISE REMAIN AWAY FROM
SIGNIFICANT MARINE LOCATIONS ACROSS THE INDICATED AREA.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

PREPARE FOR STRONG WIND GUSTS AND SUDDEN WIND SHIFTS...STEEP AND
RAPIDLY BUILDING WAVES...DANGEROUS LIGHTNING AND POOR VISIBILITY IN
HEAVY RAIN AND BLOWING SPRAY. BE SURE ALL PASSENGERS ARE WEARING
APPROVED PERSONAL FLOATATION DEVICES. TURN ON BILGE PUMPS.
In weather history: The all time highest pressure record for North Carolina is set in Raleigh when the pressure reaches 31.00 inches on February 13, 1981.
Quoting ncstorm:
Dr. Greg Forbes Torcon Index Wednesday, Feb. 13

Thunderstorms with heavy rain, isolated damaging gusts and tornadoes in southeast and east-central AL, central and south GA, central and east FL panhandle, north and central FL peninsula, southeast third of SC. A chance of morning hail in northwest GA.

TOR:CON
AL east-central, southeast - 3
FL central, east panhandle - 3
FL north, central peninsula - 2 to 3
GA east-central, southeast - 4
GA southwest, west-central - 3
GA northwest - less than 2
SC south - 4
SC northeast - 3
Thursday, Feb. 14
thanks for this, watching this very closely today in my area...
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

...THUNDERSTORM IMPACT...
A BAND OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL MOVE SOUTHEAST ACROSS
THE REGION TODAY. NO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED...BUT SOME
OF THE STRONGER STORMS COULD CONTAIN GUSTY WINDS AND DEADLY CLOUD
TO GROUND LIGHTNING.

...LAKE WIND IMPACT...
WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 20 TO 25 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS TODAY. THIS
WILL RESULT IN CHOPPY CONDITIONS ON LARGER LAKES.
Florida needs this rain,we are sinking into drought..
COASTAL WATERS FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON SC
739 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

SOUTH SANTEE RIVER SC TO SAVANNAH GA OUT 20 NM AND SAVANNAH GA TO
ALTAMAHA SOUND GA OUT 60 NM...INCLUDING CHARLESTON HARBOR AND GRAYS
REEF NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY

AMZ354-140345-
WATERS FROM SAVANNAH GA TO ALTAMAHA SOUND GA OUT 20 NM...INCLUDING
GRAYS REEF NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY-
739 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT THROUGH THIS EVENING...
...TORNADO WATCH 35 IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM EST THIS MORNING...
“We’re using the atmosphere as an open sewer. It’s functionally insane." Al Gore 02/07/13



What hypocrite he has proved to be. Of course for a half billion bucks, I would be too.

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR THE MARYLAND PORTION OF THE
CHESAPEAKE BAY...TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER...AND ADJACENT COUNTIES IN
CENTRAL MARYLAND AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

RAIN IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE TO SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE WASHINGTON-
BALTIMORE METRO AREA THIS EVENING. LIGHT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS
ARE LIKELY THIS EVENING ACROSS CENTRAL MARYLAND...PARTICULARLY NEAR
THE MASON DIXON LINE.
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
“We’re using the atmosphere as an open sewer. It’s functionally insane." Al Gore 02/07/13



What hypocrite he has proved to be. Of course for a half billion bucks, I would be too.


Mornin' Doug!

Someone must have told him that all three of his books that were sold were used as firewood during Sandy...

Nice graphics 57, thanks!
Roof collapses at Chernobyl nuclear plant: Ukraine

A section of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine has collapsed under the weight of snow but there were no injuries or any increase in radiation from the reactor that exploded in 1986, the country’s emergency agency said Wednesday.

“The preliminary reason for the collapse was too much snow on the roof,” the agency said, adding that the radiation situation is “within the norm” and nobody was harmed in Tuesday’s incident.

The roof was constructed after the 1986 disaster but is not part of the sarcophagus structure covering the reactor, it said.

However the collapse underlines concerns about the condition of the now defunct nuclear plant over two-and-a-half-decades after the world’s worst nuclear disaster.

Part of the roof and some of the walls at the plant’s machine room, close to the sarcophagus that seals the reactor number four which melted down in the 1986 accident, fell under the weight of the snow.

The area of the accident is estimated about 600 square metres, (6,500 square feet), the emergency agency said.

A statement on the website of the power station described the accident as the “partial failure of the wall slabs and light roof of the Unit 4 Turbine Hall”.

It said that the damaged structure was not critical part of the protection structures at the power plant.

“There are no changes in the radiation situation at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant industrial site and in the exclusion zone. There were no injuries,” it said.

Chernobyl is only around 100 kilometres (60 miles) from Ukraine’s capital Kiev and lies close to the borders with Russia and Belarus. The area around the plant is still very contaminated and is designated as a depopulated “exclusion zone”.

Amid concerns about the state of the sarcophagus, an arch-shaped structure called the New Safe Confinement is being built nearby to slide over the existing sarcophagus covering the reactor.

The EBRD is administering the fund to build the shelter with the help of donor contributions. When it is finished in 2015, the structure will weigh 20,000 tonnes and span 257 metres (almost 850 feet).

Two workers were killed by the April 26, 1986 explosion and 28 other rescuers and staff died of radiation exposure in the next months. Tens of thousands of people needed to be evacuated and fears remain over the scale of damage to people’s health.

In 1986 and 1987, the Soviet government sent more than half a million rescue workers, known as liquidators, to clear up the power station and decontaminate the surrounding area.

However the total death toll from Chernobyl remains a subject of bitter scientific controversy, with estimates ranging from no more than a few dozen deaths directly attributable to the disaster to tens of thousands.
Quoting pcola57:
USGS Water Watch..










How are the aquifers fairing? I know there is a massive aquifer system under Florida
Quoting pcola57:


Latest report is FL. panhandle is averaging slightly less than average and no new local wells have been authorized at this time..
However,the rest of FL. is close to over tapping local resources and a report concerning this is due from FSU in March..
I hope March isn't too late. Aquifers are an important resource.

BRRRRRRRRRRR
The EF3 Adairsville tornado, EF4 Hattiesburg tornado, and remainder of this year's strong tornadoes (EF2+ - there have been an unusual amount already) have occurred from generally similar synoptic setups. Have to wonder if the pattern will stay active and if the focus of activity will remain situated in the south.


MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0162
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0738 AM CST WED FEB 13 2013

AREAS AFFECTED...SOUTHEAST GA/NORTHERN FL

CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 35...

VALID 131338Z - 131445Z

THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 35 CONTINUES.

SUMMARY...TORNADO WATCH 35 CONTINUES UNTIL 14Z ACROSS SOUTHEAST
GA...ALTHOUGH OVERALL TORNADO POTENTIAL IS LOW SUCH THAT WATCH
EXPIRATION IS PROBABLE. SOME INCREASE IN TSTM COVERAGE/VIGOR MAY
CONTINUE TO OCCUR THROUGH THE MORNING ACROSS NORTHERN FL...ALTHOUGH
THE NEED FOR A WATCH IS UNCERTAIN /AND UNLIKELY IN THE SHORT TERM/.

DISCUSSION...INITIAL STRONG/POTENTIALLY SEVERE TSTMS EARLY THIS
MORNING ACROSS FAR SOUTHEAST GA HAVE NOW SPREAD EASTWARD OFFSHORE.
ADDITIONAL SURFACE BASED DEVELOPMENT ACROSS TORNADO WATCH 35 IN
VICINITY OF THE STATIONARY/WARM FRONT DOES NOT SEEM LIKELY IN THE
SHORT TERM. THAT SAID...STORMS SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEVELOP A BIT
FARTHER S/SW FROM THE NORTHEAST GULF OF MEXICO INTO NORTH FL IN THE
VICINITY OF A PRE-FRONTAL CONFLUENCE BOUNDARY THAT EXTENDS SW-NE
ACROSS THE REGION. SUCH DEVELOPMENT WILL BE AIDED BY THE INFLUENCE
OF WEAK HEIGHT FALLS ALOFT VIA THE UPPER TROUGH APPROACHING THE
LOWER-MIDDLE MS RIVER VALLEY...ALTHOUGH MODEST OVERALL CONVERGENCE
AND RESIDUAL MID-LEVEL INVERSION /AROUND 700MB SUCH AS 12Z
JACKSONVILLE OBSERVED RAOB/ MAY BE MITIGATING FACTORS FOR A MORE
CERTAIN/CONSEQUENTIAL SEVERE RISK. SHOULD STRONGER UPDRAFTS BECOME
ESTABLISHED...A RISK FOR DAMAGING WINDS MAY EXIST ACROSS NORTH
FL/PERHAPS EXTREME SOUTHEAST GA GIVEN THE STRONG/UNIDIRECTIONAL
NATURE OF THE WIND PROFILES ACROSS THE REGION.

..GUYER.. 02/13/2013


ATTN...WFO...CHS...TBW...JAX...TAE...

LAT...LON 31458275 31828204 31368125 29718176 29438316 29998357
31458275
Season's first meas. #snow in #Tulsa Tue. was latest such occurrence, there, since 1932. Quite a change from past seasons! @nwstulsa
BAKER-BRADFORD-CLAY-DUVAL-UNION-
839 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

...A SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ADVISORY HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR NORTHWESTERN
CLAY...NORTHERN BRADFORD...SOUTHEASTERN BAKER...EASTERN UNION AND
SOUTHERN DUVAL COUNTIES FOR STRONG WINDS AND FUNNEL CLOUDS VALID
UNTIL 930 AM EST...

AT 839 AM EST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
STRONG THUNDERSTORM CENTERED 2 MILES SOUTH OF JOHNSTOWN...MOVING EAST
AT 50 MPH. THIS STRONG THUNDERSTORM WILL ALSO AFFECT AREAS AROUND
SAMPSON...RAIFORD...NEW RIVER...LAKE
BUTLER...JOHNSTOWN...STARKE...ELLERBEE...LAWTEY.. .AND KINGSLEY
THROUGH 930 AM EST. GUSTY WINDS OF 45 TO 55 MPH CAN BE EXPECTED
ALONG WITH POSSIBLE MINOR DAMAGE. DOPPLER RADAR HAS INDICATED WEAK
ROTATION WITHIN THIS STORM. TORNADOES MAY DEVELOP WITH LITTLE OR NO
ADVANCE WARNING.

REPORT DAMAGE TO THE NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR YOUR COUNTY
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 AM EST WEDNESDAY MORNING
FOR SOUTHEAST GEORGIA.
WoW!
FOLKS AROUND STARKE FLORIDA PAY ATTENTION.......DOPPLER RADAR HAS INDICATED WEAK
ROTATION WITHIN THIS STORM. TORNADOES MAY DEVELOP WITH LITTLE OR NO
ADVANCE WARNING.
.
108 days until Hurricane season!
BAD STORM HEADING TOWARDS GAINESVILLE FL............
Quoting AussieStorm:

BRRRRRRRRRRR
Chilly--but very seasonal. In fact, most locations are around average, with just a few places in the extreme Southwest cool enough to set or tie some record lows, and just a few places in the extreme Southeast--that is, Florida--warm enough to set or tie some record high minimums. IOW: status quo for mid-February.
...Moderate Drought Conditions developed over southeast PORTIONS OF South Florida...

...Abnormally Dry Conditions rest of South Florida......
Quoting SFLWeatherman:
108 days until Hurricane season!


One day more closer.

Link
Quoting SFLWeatherman:
WoW!


I sure hope that comes to pass. We need it here in South Florida
Quoting pcola57:


I agree..
It's been my observation that water takes a back seat in development decisions here..
Truly a dangerous scenario IMO..
Good morning all. I agree, the State of Florida has a miserable track record for taking care of our most vital resource, potable water. The Florida Keys have a well in the Biscayne aquifer and the water is piped 150 miles to provide us with drinking water. In the last few years, our aqueduct authority has built a desalination reverse osmosis plant at the wellhead so we can treat brackish water and combine it with the fresh water. I think the State of Florida should mandate desalination plants with any new construction, along with appropriate reclamation sewage treatment plants. No more discharge into the ocean! The Keys have been building a sewage collection and treatment system throughout the keys (150 linear miles) under an EPA mandate. However, no one forces the counties up north of us to do the same. So as septic tanks leach into our porous soil, the potable water becomes less so. And we won't even get into salt water intrusion. It is all just a matter of time. Will it be the amount of people drawing too much off the aquifer or sea level rise that will be the demise of our aquifer?
Quoting Neapolitan:
Chilly--but very seasonal. In fact, most locations are around average, with just a few places in the extreme Southwest cool enough to set or tie some record lows, and just a few places in the extreme Southeast--that is, Florida--warm enough to set or tie some record high minimums. IOW: status quo for mid-February.

Well, it's BRRRR to me. Hence why I said it.
kWGIRL..Tampa already has one up and running for awhile now.......Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination Plant


The Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination facility is a drought-proof, alternative water supply that provides up to 25 million gallons per day of drinking water to the region.
Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning all. I agree, the State of Florida has a miserable track record for taking care of our most vital resource, potable water. The Florida Keys have a well in the Biscayne aquifer and the water is piped 150 miles to provide us with drinking water. In the last few years, our aqueduct authority has built a desalination reverse osmosis plant at the wellhead so we can treat brackish water and combine it with the fresh water. I think the State of Florida should mandate desalination plants with any new construction, along with appropriate reclamation sewage treatment plants. No more discharge into the ocean! The Keys have been building a sewage collection and treatment system throughout the keys (150 linear miles) under an EPA mandate. However, no one forces the counties up north of us to do the same. So as septic tanks leach into our porous soil, the potable water becomes less so. And we won't even get into salt water intrusion. It is all just a matter of time. Will it be the amount of people drawing too much off the aquifer or sea level rise that will be the demise of our aquifer?

That is sad. Aquifers need to be treasured not destroyed. They are the beating heart of nature. Is they become damaged, everything goes downhill from there.
Quoting LargoFl:
kWGIRL..Tampa already has one up and running for awhile now.......Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination Plant


The Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination facility is a drought-proof, alternative water supply that provides up to 25 million gallons per day of drinking water to the region.
Glad to hear that. I am sure there are some more, but each year we hear about South Florida and how the drain on the aquifer is endangering the Biscayne aquifer. Hence the FKAA decision to build the desalination plant at the wellhead of our "fresh" water source.
Quoting LargoFl:
kWGIRL..Tampa already has one up and running for awhile now.......Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination Plant


The Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination facility is a drought-proof, alternative water supply that provides up to 25 million gallons per day of drinking water to the region.

We have a desal plant here in Sydney. They have turned it off as our dams are now overflowing so it was just wasting energy.
s t.augustine wants to build one and was told.....at what cost??
We are losing our chances of a weekend storm here in D.C.That is good news for me.
GFS at 84 hours....snow in the northeast............
Tornado Chronicles ‏@tornadochron
On this date in 2000 an F3 tornado struck near Camilla GA late in evening, resulting in 11 deaths and 175 injuries.

Now this is interesting!!


Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning all. I agree, the State of Florida has a miserable track record for taking care of our most vital resource, potable water. The Florida Keys have a well in the Biscayne aquifer and the water is piped 150 miles to provide us with drinking water. In the last few years, our aqueduct authority has built a desalination reverse osmosis plant at the wellhead so we can treat brackish water and combine it with the fresh water. I think the State of Florida should mandate desalination plants with any new construction, along with appropriate reclamation sewage treatment plants. No more discharge into the ocean! The Keys have been building a sewage collection and treatment system throughout the keys (150 linear miles) under an EPA mandate. However, no one forces the counties up north of us to do the same. So as septic tanks leach into our porous soil, the potable water becomes less so. And we won't even get into salt water intrusion. It is all just a matter of time. Will it be the amount of people drawing too much off the aquifer or sea level rise that will be the demise of our aquifer?


Morning kwgirl..
I didn't realize the Keys were so progressive in their approach to this problem..
Kudos to them..
As you know,parts of this state are sooo backward..
The legislature hasn't made a decision on this issue in years..
And where is the leadership from the Governors office?
I have written to my local representatives concerning our water quality here as last year we were voted as the worst water in the US..
No response from them at all..
Sad.. :(


10 U.S. cities with the worst drinking water

1. Pensacola, Fla. (Emerald Coast Water Utility)
Located on the Florida Panhandle along the Gulf of Mexico, Pensacola is Florida's westernmost major city. Analysts say it has the worst water quality in the country. Of the 101 chemicals tested for over five years, 45 were discovered. Of them, 21 were discovered in unhealthy amounts. The worst of these were radium-228 and -228, trichloroethylene, tetrachloroethylene, alpha particles, benzine and lead. Pensacola's water was also found to contain cyanide and chloroform. The combination of these chemicals makes Pensacola's water supply America's most unhealthy.
Quoting DavidHOUTX:
Now this is interesting!!




What model is that??
Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning all. I agree, the State of Florida has a miserable track record for taking care of our most vital resource, potable water. The Florida Keys have a well in the Biscayne aquifer and the water is piped 150 miles to provide us with drinking water. In the last few years, our aqueduct authority has built a desalination reverse osmosis plant at the wellhead so we can treat brackish water and combine it with the fresh water. I think the State of Florida should mandate desalination plants with any new construction, along with appropriate reclamation sewage treatment plants. No more discharge into the ocean! The Keys have been building a sewage collection and treatment system throughout the keys (150 linear miles) under an EPA mandate. However, no one forces the counties up north of us to do the same. So as septic tanks leach into our porous soil, the potable water becomes less so. And we won't even get into salt water intrusion. It is all just a matter of time. Will it be the amount of people drawing too much off the aquifer or sea level rise that will be the demise of our aquifer?
Both, most likely. Between the drainage of freshwater into the sea by parking lots and streets directing rainwater into canals, the seepage of saltwater into the aquifer by brackish canals, the over-pumping of freshwater by wells (too many people, too many golf courses and lime-green lawns), lowering of the water table by drought, and sea level rise (about 8" over the past 100 years), the zone of dispersion--that is, the line separating saltwater from the freshwater aquifer--has moved steadily and incessantly inland, forcing the closure of one well after another all across South Florida. Now there are many tens of millions of dollars being spent on bridge technologies such as desalination plants, reverse osmosis systems, and lengthy pipes to the less salty edge of the Everglades. But in forty of fifty years, the sea level will likely rise another foot or two, and that would render much of the Everglades a brackish swamp from which little freshwater will be siphoned at any cost.

As with so many other places, South Florida is in deep trouble...
Quoting pcola57:


Morning kwgirl..
I didn't realize the Keys were so progressive in their approach to this problem..
Kudos to them..
As you know,parts of this state are sooo backward..
The legislature hasn't made a decision on this issue in years..
And where is the leadership from the Governors office?
I have written to my local representatives concerning our water quality here as last year we were voted as the worst tasting water in the US..
No response from them at all..
Sad.. :(
Progressive how? Building the Desalination plant maybe, though we had one for years until it broke. The sewers are an unfunded mandate and should have been done years ago. The county is being forced into doing it, at considerable expense. Imagine that you need to get every home and business hooked up to a central collection system, pump it to a treatment plant and then discharge the affluent somewhere. Not to mention that we are a string of islands connected by bridges. So there will be several treatment plants throughout the county. We won't go into the problems of digging into the coral rock, having little elevation to allow gravity to work and the expense of hooking each home to the system. A lot of people cannot afford the $4,000.00 dollars for the hookup. And I am not sure that pays for the plumber to connect your house, after he has removed the septic system. When you find that there are polio viruses living in your canal because of the septic run off, then you kinda want it done, even if it costs you. I think the most telling study was done with the Queen Conch. It was found that the Queen conch cannot breed in near shore waters because of the amount of estrogen in the water. Our birth control is being flushed and is leaching into the waters and affecting the wildlife. Pretty sad.
Morning All!

Are the models still showing snow in Florida??

WunderGirl12
looks like this band of heavy rain wants to miss me..
I see the models have moved slightly more south with 98W


Quoting LargoFl:
GFS at 84 hours....snow in the northeast............
Our local mets and CWG think we'll only see conversational flakes.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Our local mets and CWG think we'll only see conversational flakes.


Hi Wash! :-)
Quoting LargoFl:


Where is that? When is that???? Is that recent???
Quoting LargoFl:
LOL

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR THE MARYLAND PORTION OF THE
CHESAPEAKE BAY...TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER...AND ADJACENT COUNTIES IN
CENTRAL MARYLAND AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

RAIN IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE TO SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE WASHINGTON-
BALTIMORE METRO AREA THIS EVENING. LIGHT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS
ARE LIKELY THIS EVENING ACROSS CENTRAL MARYLAND...PARTICULARLY NEAR
THE MASON DIXON LINE.
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Where is that? When is that???? Is that recent???
..no probably from back in 1977 when even Tampa had snow
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Hi Wash! :-)
Hello wundergirl12 I'm sorry if I offended anyone yesterday while I had my rants and "acting out" post.
Quoting LargoFl:
..no probably from back in 1977 when even Tampa had snow


DARN! You had me hopeful for a second...
Quoting WunderGirl12:
Morning All!

Are the models still showing snow in Florida??

WunderGirl12





Tampa 1977...hope no repeat ever.............
Quoting washingtonian115:
Hello wundergirl12 I'm sorry if I offended anyone yesterday while I had my rants and "acting out" post.


I wasn't aware of your "acting out", so I'm not offended. How are you, btw?
Quoting washingtonian115:
Our local mets and CWG think we'll only see conversational flakes.

That or dandruff
Quoting kwgirl:
Progressive how? Building the Desalination plant maybe, though we had one for years until it broke. The sewers are an unfunded mandate and should have been done years ago. The county is being forced into doing it, at considerable expense. Imagine that you need to get every home and business hooked up to a central collection system, pump it to a treatment plant and then discharge the affluent somewhere. Not to mention that we are a string of islands connected by bridges. So there will be several treatment plants throughout the county. We won't go into the problems of digging into the coral rock, having little elevation to allow gravity to work and the expense of hooking each home to the system. A lot of people cannot afford the $4,000.00 dollars for the hookup. And I am not sure that pays for the plumber to connect your house, after he has removed the septic system. When you find that there are polio viruses living in your canal because of the septic run off, then you kinda want it done, even if it costs you. I think the most telling study was done with the Queen Conch. It was found that the Queen conch cannot breed in near shore waters because of the amount of estrogen in the water. Our birth control is being flushed and is leaching into the waters and affecting the wildlife. Pretty sad.


Or you could be in one of the cold spots(blue)such as mine.

Link

Where they say it'll cost $25,000 for each residence for a system with a 20 year life span and annual maintainance and certification costs.
Quoting AussieStorm:







Thanks Aussie! Darn, no Snow for me this year. do you guys have ANY idea how warm it is going to be today??? 86 degrees F!!! Holy smokes thats warm for Florida.
J anuary 2010..could we get a repeat this weekend, back then they forecasted SNOW around Jacksonville to maybe Daytona..cant remember IF it really happened...
Quoting AussieStorm:

That or dandruff


LOL! Here's the news article - "Massive dandruff blizzard! Scientists have no idea what caused it...Stay tuned for more information!"
STAY ALERT NORTH FLORIDA....................SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
941 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

FLC019-031-109-131500-
/O.CON.KJAX.SV.W.0011.000000T0000Z-130213T1500Z/
CLAY FL-ST. JOHNS FL-DUVAL FL-
941 AM EST WED FEB 13 2013

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 AM EST
FOR SOUTHEASTERN DUVAL...NORTHWESTERN ST. JOHNS AND NORTHEASTERN CLAY
COUNTIES...

AT 941 AM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS CONTINUED TO
TRACK A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN
EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR MANDARIN...MOVING EAST
AT 45 MPH.

OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO UNF...
SAN PABLO...PALM VALLEY...SAWGRASS...PONTE VEDRA BEACH...JACKSONVILLE
BEACH AND NEPTUNE BEACH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

FOR YOUR PROTECTION MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF
YOUR HOME OR BUSINESS. THIS STORM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE SERIOUS
INJURY AND SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO PROPERTY.
Quoting LargoFl:
J anuary 2010..could we get a repeat this weekend, back then they forecasted SNOW around Jacksonville to maybe Daytona..cant remember IF it really happened...


I remember Jan. 2010. There was snow in Daytona. Some accumulated, but me, being a 12 year old, decided to make A snowball. (Meaning one snowball) It "snowed" for about 30min, then stopped. Then it turned into really cold rain. :-(
Quoting LargoFl:


Hey Largo, is that front line moving off of the coast?
Quoting WunderGirl12:


I remember Jan. 2010. There was snow in Daytona. Some accumulated, but me, being a 12 year old, decided to make A snowball. (Meaning one snowball) It "snowed" for about 30min, then stopped. Then it turned into really cold rain. :-(
WELL Sat/sunday morning its going to be cold enough for snow by you..all it needs is moisture
Quoting WunderGirl12:


I wasn't aware of your "acting out", so I'm not offended. How are you, btw?
I'am good today.I had plans this weekend and at first it looked like it was going to be interrupted.Thank goodness.But they can put it in the forecast at anytime again.
Quoting AussieStorm:

That or dandruff
Might as well be.
Quoting LargoFl:
WELL Sat/sunday morning its going to be cold enough for snow by you..all it needs is moisture


Which I may, or may not have.
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Hey Largo, is that front line moving off of the coast?
looks like the line is going slightly east/southeast
Quoting washingtonian115:
I'am good today.I had plans this weekend and at first it looked like it was going to be interrupted.Thank goodness.But they can put it in the forecast at anytime again. Might as well be.


What type of plans did you have for the weekend?? :-)
Here's a photo from the trip to the snow here in Australia.


Is this Australia or somewhere in Europe?
Quoting LargoFl:
looks like the line is going slightly east/southeast


Okay. Does the radar tell you how fast it is moving? (I'm gonna try to predict when it is going to hit daytona)
current GFS..........
Quoting AussieStorm:
Here's a photo from the trip to the snow here in Australia.


Is this Australia or somewhere in Europe?


Is that Australia?
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Is that Australia?

Sure is... This is me

Quoting AussieStorm:

Sure is... This is me



WOW! i didn't know that there was snow in Australia! thanks for telling me about it. :-)
Quoting WunderGirl12:


What type of plans did you have for the weekend?? :-)
I was going to a convention at the Gaylord hotel or as it is known as the natinaol harbor.On a normal day parking is already a disaster.Just imagine if snow was added into the mix.Then they would probably have to cancell the convention or delay it until another time.Most of the eateries would probably be closed as well.
This is at my parents place 820metres ASL, it was -10c overnight and as you can see, everything was coated in a thick layer of frost.

Quoting washingtonian115:
I was going to a convention at the Gaylord hotel or as it is known as the natinaol harbor.On a normal day parking is already a disaster.Just imagine if snow was added into the mix.Then they would probably have to cancell the convention or delay it until another time.Most of the eateries would probably be closed as well.


Ouch. What is the convention on? :-)
Quoting AussieStorm:
This is at my parents place 820metres ASL, it was -10c overnight and as you can see, everything was coated in a thick layer of frost.



-10 C? brrr.....a bit too cold for me. :-) (I use F and C)
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

Tell me... Ice Pellets. Is that just a winter term? What about those severe thunderstorms over the GOM moving towards N Fla. they have 0.5"-1.5" hail signatures. Is it still called hail or ice pellets? Is it ice pellets in winter hail in summer?
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Ouch. What is the convention on? :-)
Well knowing that I'am still a nerd at heart and so is my daughter...we are going to a comic/cartoon convention.My inner kid is calling!.
...THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR THE FOLLOWING RIVERS IN FLORIDA...

APALACHICOLA RIVER NEAR BLOUNTSTOWN AFFECTING CALHOUN...FRANKLIN...GULF AND
LIBERTY COUNTIES

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

ALL PERSONS WITH INTEREST ALONG THE RIVER SHOULD MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS...
AND BE PREPARED TO TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY. DO
NOT DRIVE CARS THROUGH FLOODED AREAS. IF YOU SEE FLOOD WATERS...REMEMBER TO TURN
AROUND AND DO NOT DROWN.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Well knowing that I'am still a nerd at heart and so is my daughter...we are going to a comic/cartoon convention.My inner kid is calling!.


Nice! I like those types of conventions. (I've only been to one, though, but I had A LOT of fun)
A SPECIAL MARINE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1115 AM EST...

FOR THE FOLLOWING AREAS...
WATERS FROM TARPON SPRINGS TO SUWANNEE RIVER FL OUT 20 TO 60 NM...
COASTAL WATERS FROM TARPON SPRINGS TO SUWANNEE RIVER FL OUT 20 NM...
INCLUDING ANCLOTE KEY...BAYPORT...CEDAR KEY...OZELLO...SUWANNEE RIVER
AND YANKEETOWN...

AT 914 AM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO
INDICATE A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS...PRODUCING STRONG WINDS 34 KNOTS OR
GREATER FROM 37 NM SOUTHWEST OF CEDAR KEY TO 77 NM WEST OF ANCLOTE
KEY...MOVING EAST AT 25 KNOTS.
So, now it looks like no snow or severe weather in GA for the next 2 weeks... I might cry.

And for the past month and a half, high temps have averaged Hi 50-70/Lo 30-50, and on the one day I go to run a 5k, its going to be 24 that morning, high 47 and windy.

I knew mother nature hated me, but I had no idea it was this bad.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
So, now it looks like no snow or severe weather in GA for the next 2 weeks... I might cry.

And for the past month and a half, high temps have averaged Hi 50-70/Lo 30-50, and on the one day I go to run a 5k, its going to be 24 that morning, high 47 and windy.

I knew mother nature hated me, but I had no idea it was this bad.


Hahaha. Poor you GA. Hope you do well for the 5k
wonder if Bethesda will get any snow .............
Quoting AussieStorm:

Tell me... Ice Pellets. Is that just a winter term? What about those severe thunderstorms over the GOM moving towards N Fla. they have 0.5"-1.5" hail signatures. Is it still called hail or ice pellets? Is it ice pellets in winter hail in summer?
hail in thunderstorms hail keeps rising and falling in ts until its to heavy then lands at the surface

ice pellets is rain that freezes into ice as it reaches surface where temps are at or below freezing
and freezing rain is rain that freezes once it lands on the surface thats at or below freezing
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Nice! I like those types of conventions. (I've only been to one, though, but I had A LOT of fun)
Most of the people are fun and weird.But they're weird in a good way and friendly.Not to mention the work they put into the costumes.
wow a week from today.....................
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
So, now it looks like no snow or severe weather in GA for the next 2 weeks... I might cry.

And for the past month and a half, high temps have averaged Hi 50-70/Lo 30-50, and on the one day I go to run a 5k, its going to be 24 that morning, high 47 and windy.

I knew mother nature hated me, but I had no idea it was this bad.

Average for my area.
February minimum temperature:
average this month: -2.0°F
Average Temp: 61.7°F

February maximum temperature:
average this month -3.1°F
Average Temp: 79.2°F
50% chance today...................
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
So, now it looks like no snow or severe weather in GA for the next 2 weeks... I might cry.

And for the past month and a half, high temps have averaged Hi 50-70/Lo 30-50, and on the one day I go to run a 5k, its going to be 24 that morning, high 47 and windy.

I knew mother nature hated me, but I had no idea it was this bad.

I walk 5km a day. Rain, Windy, Hail, Cold, Hot.
day isnt over yet GS..................
Year To Date
highest temperature: 113.9F (Jan 18)

lowest temperature 54.0F (Jan 15)

Currently
62.2F
02:30

And Goodnight. Stay warm and dry.
I don't like these 50's for February.I want 20's and 30's.
Quoting washingtonian115:
I was going to a convention at the Gaylord hotel or as it is known as the natinaol harbor.On a normal day parking is already a disaster.Just imagine if snow was added into the mix.Then they would probably have to cancell the convention or delay it until another time.Most of the eateries would probably be closed as well.


Is this the Gaylord near Oxen Hill, right across the Potomac from Alexandria? I stayed there for a business trip a couple of years ago, it's a very nice place :) We went in early fall so the weather was nice and we walked around to all the shops and had drinks at a little Mexican place down the street- don't tell your daughter, but they make killer margaritas!
Quoting goosegirl1:


Is this the Gaylord near Oxen Hill, right across the Potomac from Alexandria? I stayed there for a business trip a couple of years ago, it's a very nice place :) We went in early fall so the weather was nice and we walked around to all the shops and had drinks at a little Mexican place down the street- don't tell your daughter, but they make killer margaritas!
Actually the Gaylord hotel is located near Bowlings air force base and is 8 miles outside of D.C.It is located near Suitland M.D.I went to the little Mexicanplace there and I would agree.That tropical one with the citrus food was delicious.But I have a underage child with me and I'll be the only one driving.Hubby will be at home so I can see a disaster already.
Quoting AussieStorm:

I walk 5km a day. Rain, Windy, Hail, Cold, Hot.
I walk 4-6 miles a day as part of my commute (from the train station to the office and back). Forces me to get exercise, saves money and gas versus driving.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
hail in thunderstorms hail keeps rising and falling in ts until its to heavy then lands at the surface

ice pellets is rain that freezes into ice as it reaches surface where temps are at or below freezing
and freezing rain is rain that freezes once it lands on the surface thats at or below freezing
Very good KEEPER... In fact hail is pretty much like telling the age of trees by the rings..If a hailstone can be cut in half a person could actually tell how many time it had been thrown back up only to fall again. Each time makes another ring. Large hailstones may be throw back up many, many times due to strong turbulence caused by the thundersorm.... Ok, That's all my brain can handle at one sitting, How did I do??
Im planing on taking my girlfriend to the Florida state fain around 3PM for her birthday. I was wondering if the little squall line should be thorough the area by then, so at least it would not rain and ruin our plans. Thanks
Quoting tampahurricane:
Im planing on taking my girlfriend to the Florida state fain around 3PM for her birthday. I was wondering if the little squall line should be thorough the area by then, so at least it would not rain and ruin our plans. Thanks
tampa...And when might her birthday be? (spell check)
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Actually the Gaylord hotel is located near Bowlings air force base and is 8 miles outside of D.C.It is located near Suitland M.D.I went to the little Mexicanplace there and I would agree.That tropical one with the citrus food was delicious.But I have a underage child with me and I'll be the only one driving.Hubby will be at home so I can see a disaster already.


I haven't been to that one, but it's likely a lot the same. Have fun! Hopefully the weather cooperates. When we went out, we were all walking, so all we had to worry about was finding our way back :)) I can see your worry with leaving the hubs at home... they just can't see all those dirty dishes, can they?
Quoting AussieStorm:

How are the aquifers fairing? I know there is a massive aquifer system under Florida


They are polluted, and getting worse every day. Florida has more first magnitude springs than anywhere else in America. Almost all of them are suffering from reduced flow, and nitrogen pollution.
746 LargoFl: The Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination facility is a drought-proof, alternative water supply that provides up to 25 million gallons per day of drinking water to the region.

After drinking and cooking, that's about enough to let each person flush the toilet once per day... maybe 3times with the highest efficiency units.