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Fire season is here: wildfires scorch Florida, Texas

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:58 PM GMT on March 02, 2011

It's March in the Southern U.S., and that means it's wildfire season. Strong winds and tinder-dry conditions in Northeast Florida near St. Augustine fanned a 10,000-acre fire that forced closure of I-95 yesterday morning. Other fires are burning in Texas and New Mexico, and a fire in West Texas earlier this week burned over 120,000 acres and caused a fatal traffic accident that killed one person. It promises to be an active fire season across the entire southern tier of states this spring due to a very dry winter. Dry winters in the Southern U.S. are common when unusually cold water is present in the Equatorial Pacific Ocean--La Niña conditions. This occurs because the unusually cold waters act to deflect the jet stream, keeping wintertime storm systems from traveling over the Southern U.S. La Niña is gradually weakening, but is expected to last through the spring months, meaning that drought conditions will continue into the summer. There is some relief in sight this weekend for Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and the Florida Panhandle, where a storm system and associated cold front are expected to bring rains of 1/2 to 1 inch. However, Texas and most of the Florida Peninsula will miss the heaviest rains, and NOAA's Climate Prediction Center is predicting much above average chances of dry weather across the Southern U.S. for the remainder of March.


Figure 1. NASA's Aqua satellite detected three large fires burning in eastern Florida on February 28, 2011. According to the National Interagency Fire Center, all three wildfires burned out of control and threatened homes. The largest of the fires is the Iron Horse Fire, burning in northern Brevard County. The 10,000-acre fire produced dense clouds of smoke that forced officials to close parts of US Highway 1 and Interstate 95, said news reports. As of March 1, the fire had destroyed one home and was burning towards more densely populated areas, reported CNN. In the north, the Keller Fire also closed roads, including Highway 1 and Interstate 95. The smaller Ferry-7 fire burned primarily in National Forests. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.


Figure 2. U.S. drought conditions as of February 22, 2011, showed large regions of drought over the southern tier of states, with the extreme drought conditions over portions of Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Georgia, and Florida. Image credit: U.S. Department of Agriculture.

I'll have a new post on Thursday or Friday.

Jeff Masters
Out of control.
Out of control.
Brush fire out of control in Central Florida. Looking East toward I-95 across Lake Harney. I-95 is about 14 miles away.
Matador TX Wild Fire
Matador TX Wild Fire
Notice the hogs running from fire
Iron Horse Fire
Iron Horse Fire
February 28, 2011 near I-95 Volusia and Brevard Counties, Florida 2

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Reader Comments

Quoting Jedkins01:


Sounds a little too extreme to me, but at least they allow wildlife to stay wild up there. I'd rather have people who are a little extreme about wild life conservation than cold hearted businessman that enjoy destroying pristine wilderness just to increase their already multi-million dollar net worth by several more million.

As a self-proclaimed conservationist and fellow Floridian, I'm interested to hear what you think about this: an ill-informed Florida State Senator, caught up in the illogical anti-government hysteria that's running wild right now, wants to entirely do away with all fresh-and saltwater fishing licenses. Says the Senator: "I don't believe a citizen should have to get written permission from the government and pay a fee to throw a couple of fishing poles in a truck and head to the beach. That's an intrusion into what is a common activity in Florida. The question is why do we have fishing licenses? The burden of proof is with the people who want to hassle and annoy citizens by requiring written permission from the government."

sigh

Apparently, this incompetent doofus hasn't considered even for a second that the money from those fishing licenses--roughly $32 million per year--is what keeps fishing viable in the first place, with all of it (along with millions more in federal money) going to support research and the FWC's law enforcement efforts. Personally, I think he's a small-minded and myopic simpleton. But what say you?
Quoting Neapolitan:

As a self-proclaimed conservationist and fellow Floridian, I'm interested to hear what you think about this: an ill-informed Florida State Senator, caught up in the illogical anti-government hysteria that's running wild right now, wants to entirely do away with all fresh-and saltwater fishing licenses. Says the Senator: "I don't believe a citizen should have to get written permission from the government and pay a fee to throw a couple of fishing poles in a truck and head to the beach. That's an intrusion into what is a common activity in Florida. The question is why do we have fishing licenses? The burden of proof is with the people who want to hassle and annoy citizens by requiring written permission from the government."

sigh

Apparently, this incompetent doofus hasn't considered even for a second that the money from those fishing licenses--roughly $32 million per year--is what keeps fishing viable in the first place, with all of it (along with millions more in federal money) going to support research and the FWC's law enforcement efforts. Personally, I think he's a small-minded and myopic simpleton. But what say you?
I'll agree with you Nea. Evidently, this Senator is a fisherman who resents paying for anything.
Quoting Neapolitan:

As a self-proclaimed conservationist and fellow Floridian, I'm interested to hear what you think about this: an ill-informed Florida State Senator, caught up in the illogical anti-government hysteria that's running wild right now, wants to entirely do away with all fresh-and saltwater fishing licenses. Says the Senator: "I don't believe a citizen should have to get written permission from the government and pay a fee to throw a couple of fishing poles in a truck and head to the beach. That's an intrusion into what is a common activity in Florida. The question is why do we have fishing licenses? The burden of proof is with the people who want to hassle and annoy citizens by requiring written permission from the government."

sigh

Apparently, this incompetent doofus hasn't considered even for a second that the money from those fishing licenses--roughly $32 million per year--is what keeps fishing viable in the first place, with all of it (along with millions more in federal money) going to support research and the FWC's law enforcement efforts. Personally, I think he's a small-minded and myopic simpleton. But what say you?



That's very disturbing to hear. He is trying to play on citizens of Florida by saying, hey guys back me because I'm working to make fishing free. Well you know, that sounds good if you don't examine things a little further.

First of all, licenses are created to help keep track of who is fishing and who isn't. Also, it draws the lines between law abiding citizens, and those who fish illegally. People who engage in outdoor activities illegally, such as hunting in fishing, of course are the same people that will carelessly and stupidly take 3 times the limit of fish while fishing, or kill deer outside of deer season. Those people don't like to use licenses of course. That being said, it allows the law to come down harder on that kind of activity.

That's just one purpose a license serves, but it also funds critical money for the FWC as you said, 32 million.

Which generally gives me a feeling that the Senator knows its harmful for the FWC. I mean come on, hes a senator, he has to know about that. He is backing a bill to ban licenses hoping that people will be ignorant enough about how the system works to think its a good thing, when in reality it destroys conservation efforts.

Some politicians would love to see the FWC dissolve so that people can just go in and carelessly destroy nature.

I think that's very disturbing, hopefully he will not be able to get the bill passed.

Next we'll have a Senator saying we need to remove the use of drivers licenses! lol
Quoting Jedkins01:


Sounds a little too extreme to me, but at least they allow wildlife to stay wild up there. I'd rather have people who are a little extreme about wild life conservation than cold hearted businessman that enjoy destroying pristine wilderness just to increase their already multi-million dollar net worth by several more million.


Much of Florida has already been ruined beyond repair. The Florida Panther will never be what it was. Hunting is much harder now because too many wild lands have been disturbed, making hunting populations too small. Many species in Florida have been threatened from rattle snakes to birds because of either hate of the animal or for overdeveloped land by businesses.

Thank God there are people out there who have fought to halt such things. The American Alligator was once dangerously low in population, now they can be enjoyed everywhere, and permits for hunting allow them to be enjoyed for meat, but thankfully, they aren't allowed to be mass killed anymore.


I'm worried though, that congress will start to allow Florida to begin being ruined again, they've already shown signs of anti-environmentalism.


Maybe being a little more extreme, might have saved you from the position your now in? I don't have a problem putting polluters/poachers, or people wilfully destroying habitat in jail?

Get caught fishing/hunting illegally up here... they take everything you used to do it away from you... that includes boats/RV's/equipment.

Getting thrown in jail in Canada is actually very hard to do, and its seldom for any length of time ( a problem we should rectify)

Well, I guess no more weatherunderground blog for me. I am tired of all the political ranting from both sides. You are not going to change anyone minds. I will try an all weather blog where it is done in a cordial manner and no name calling.
Indeed that was probably part of the plan in a few of the arguments presented here. Of course such techniques can be vaguely and clandestinely incorporated into argument also. They are always present and highlightable.

In a scientific debate validity is very narrowly defined. Perhaps it would be best to keep within those parameters. Changing opinion was never really a true and obtainable goal. Removing opinion from where it did not belong was.

Proving opinionated incivility effective is probably not a good technique for removing it from public forums discussing science - correct?.
nice pictures of the fire
Quoting mossyhead:
Well, I guess no more weatherunderground blog for me. I am tired of all the political ranting from both sides. You are not going to change anyone minds. I will try an all weather blog where it is done in a cordial manner and no name calling.
seems like a good day to me, in comparison. folks actually agreeing on things when normally pinned against each other on other topics.
it gets WAY messier in here... that said, you are probably making a wise choice nonetheless.
Quoting Orcasystems:


Completely different style of Government up here. Is it better... not sure, but they are not out to cut each others throat like some others.

Can they control the people.. not a hope... can they control the media.. no.

This is the humorous part. You call it "far left control problem"... Icecream calls it "right-wing PM Stephen Harper".

Canadian Partys:

Conservative Party - To the Right
Liberal Party - Centre
NDP - Left or more like the Green Party

Down South of the 49th they would be

Conservative Party - Right leaning Democrats
Liberal Party - Demorcrats
NDP - Rabid Socialists (j/k)


To be fair though, Fox News is not recognized as a "news" program. Several individuals and groups took them to court over the matter. Fox argued that while they may provide news stories, they are free to do as they wish since they are an entertainment network. The courts sided with Fox News, which isn't surprising considering similar rulings have been handed down in the past for publishing companies who "make stuff up" (like the Weekly World News, National Enquirer, etc.) yet still present as "real" news publications.

I agree with you about the political spectrum. Compared to other western nations, our democratic party would be considered conservative. Our tree-huggin' hippies would be about center. :D
JeffMasters@479

You might also find this Oregon Field Guide video useful and thought provoking on the subject of coastal erosion.

Here in Oregon we are measuring greater storm intensity and more wave action creating both more erosion and more dune building as the video indicates.

And although not weather related, the last major earthquake/tsunami to strike the Oregon/Washington coast did so in 1700. This Cascadia Subduction Zone calamity has recently been discovered to be a periodic occurrence. With the periodicity being ~300 years.
patrap,

Here's some photos for your shuttle collection:

Space Shuttle Discovery's Final Voyage
Looks like a political forum today.....NOTHING NEW!
511 is that not just in effect putting it off until some incident or development makes the situation more uncivil and involves bodily harm and destruction?

I think there is a measurable culpability in avoidance that has put us here.

Also isn't it disrespectful to climate science to disparage their scientific work as opinion. If it was a storm threatening that was preventable or modifiable it would be inexcusable to avoid discussing it. Regardless of its forecast window if it was scientifically predictable as coming in 1 day, 1 week, a year 10 years or more??

515 yes that part is just what you have made it into.
Outstanding imagery from Discovery's Final Flight fer sure.

Thanx for the link.
518. XLR8
"Politics"

"Poli" - Many
"Tics" - Blood Sucking Parasites
It is a beautiful image.

They all are, what a nice surprise there are more - the first one stands out though. But the others are incredible.
This is Excellent....

Huh!! That's not working... so

U-Tube Sir Ken Robinson, 'schools killing creativity'.
521. XLR8
Thanks for sharing the photos, very lovely.
Quoting JFLORIDA:
511 is that not just in effect putting it off until some incident or development makes the situation more uncivil and involves bodily harm and destruction?

I think there is a measurable culpability in avoidance that has put us here.

Also isn't it disrespectful to climate science to disparage their scientific work as opinion. If it was a storm threatening that was preventable or modifiable it would be inexcusable to avoid discussing it. Regardless of its forecast window if it was scientifically predictable as coming in 1 day, 1 week, a year 10 years or more??

515 yes that part is just what you have made it into.


ROFLMAO with a mirror for you!
with a mirror for you!

Well then lets talk about that.

Still you are not providing insight or relevant information on climate. Im not important either way. You've done this for years and look at you. Most of your posts are just complains and dead weight with nothign on the upside.

Educationally where has it taken you? You are incompetent on climate which is a large part of meteorology. You have political friends here and I have enemies no doubt. But what have you solved or figured out??

If nothign else though TampaSPIN is a good handle. Your first words on arrival being a political assessment. You're achieved greater political polarization and attempt to spread that I suppose.

But im not agreeing with any part of your post. Its incorrect on top of being illogical. I would like to see where I disparaged climate science or avoided scientific reference of the topic?

Please post it.
You done this for years and look at you. Most of your posts are just complains and dead weight with nothign on the upside.

Educationally where has it taken you?


hmmmm.... well at least they can spell and form a sentence that is correct.
Quoting JFLORIDA:
511 is that not just in effect putting it off until some incident or development makes the situation more uncivil and involves bodily harm and destruction?
huh... who, me?

my comment was that the non-weather comments had not been nearly as attacking oriented vs. other days when it just becomes a shouting match in here... and to the individual who found, what i believe to be moderated discussions, as contentious name-calling, my suggestion was that another weather blog might be suitable for he/she who does desire weather-related discussions over politics and network news.

so i find your statement to me confusing at best.
520 pot I saw it - it was very good. Everything is in the Details and constantly assessing and reassessing them.
Quoting NRAamy:
You done this for years and look at you. Most of your posts are just complains and dead weight with nothign on the upside.

Educationally where has it taken you?


hmmmm.... well at least they can spell and form a sentence that is correct.


Amy ignore him! Hey, i don't spell worth a crap either........LOL! He, is ignored by most and makes others ill of his post......just sayn the truth!
i know, maybe JFlorida will be hired by Dr. Masters for the scientist he is in search! That would sure grab some traffic for Dr. Masters Blog........LOL
Amy if spelling meant more to me than honesty, character and commitment perhaps I would be as good at it as you.

Im doing fine and would rather be correct anyway.
How about you folks get a room somewhere so the rest of us can discuss the weather, eh?
Quoting JFLORIDA:


What are you arguing there. How do we go off on a tangent from weather and climate to such opinionated discussion? Argument in Science is very narrowly defined.

Removing part of the science is just as invalid as political discussion here or anywhere.
i really don't think you're following my statements correctly JFlorida. this is the 2nd response that makes no sense.

let me clarify the extent of my point to put this to rest:
person A says "This blog has gone political and people resort to name calling. I want weather. Bye"
person B says "I don't think there's been much name calling today, but yes, it has been political. Another site might be what you are looking for."

i am person B. so where in my paraphrased dialogue do i make statements that elicit such responses from you? please ignore my previous posts and re-evaluate the paraphrased dialogue which seeks to clarify the extent of my statement. then review my previous posts, and in your own head, try to find where you misread my intentions. you needn't share your realizations with the blog, but you may if you wish.

i am making no statements about politics or science, other than mildly reflecting on the content of what other individuals have posted today. i never mention removing science from anything. i am not the facilitator here, and i've only taken part in the discussion about Fox's high ratings via 1 comment... and then i responded to someone who announced their departure.

(and then i tried to communicate with you about your peculiar responses to my simple post)
Quoting riblet2000:
How about you folks get a room somewhere so the rest of us can discuss the weather, eh?


Seriously...I don't know why anybody would put any significant effort in complaining about the content of comments on a message board. I know I generally prefer to avoid the political discussions myself but I never would complain that they exist. It's just too easy to ignore them. But anyway...

You want to talk about the weather? Fine, you first...What specifically do you want to talk about?
Actually I did discus the weather and the fires below and no one answered. But I would enjoy anythign weather or climate related being posted. See again if you would just post it perhaps that would be more effective.

534 It wasn't an accusation its just that outcome favors an argument - exclusively, and furthers the incivility. Right?

Let me explain my thoughts - If that person was truthful then making the situation uncomfortable is a valid and successful methodology for suppressing climate discussion. If they were not truthful then they portrayed a situation as an exclusive rule for "civility" that suppresses climate discussion if "uncomfortable" material is included.

Nearly all climate knowledge is based in some facet of information or in trends that involve warming.

Indeed even the SSTs and the Model outputs are themselves factored for warming.

Correct?

You are discussing intent. When I discus intent and motivation I separate it out religiously. Or should at least.
Quoting sirmaelstrom:


Seriously...I don't know why anybody would put any significant effort in complaining about the content of comments on a message board. I know I generally prefer avoid the political discussions myself but I never would complain that they exist. It's just too easy to ignore them. But anyway...

You want to talk about the weather? Fine, you first...What specifically do you want to talk about?

And yet, there is your two cents about it. Hypocrite.
JFlorida... i cannot control other bloggers, only myself. others tend to start the rants.. apologetically, i sometimes chime in on such non-weather dialogue. since it is an apparent fact that a wealth of off-topic blogging occurs here, i can relate to the desire to find a different weather blog that stays on topic. WU is not the end all be all required site for targeted weather discussions. there are other options available... but this is a great blog when weather events take place that merit our attention. i won't be leaving...
Quoting riblet2000:

And yet, there is your two cents about it. Hypocrite.


LOL...Do you want to discuss something weather-related or not?
look into the avatar JF
This blog is either 'look at the apocolyptocane the GFS shows hitting SoFLA 15 days from now!' or its 'AHHHH GLOBAL WARMING'.  Nothing more, nothing less.
Quoting JFLORIDA:

You are discussing intent. When I discus intent and motivation I separate it out religiously. Or should at least.

yes; my intent. that which was attempted to be effectively communicated several times. alas, i failed somewhere along the path. i like to think i At Least make sense to the Jflo...
:)




Flood warnings are going to be flying from the south all the way to ME, by the time this next system gets done. Our flood warnings here in Muncie from the Sunday night storms were only recently discontinued. New flood watches are already out, and it may be worse this time round.
539 I enjoy technical climate discussion - It is the recorded observational core and history of meteorology. Thats a fact of the science. I don't mind the occasional sparing to facilitate that discussion either. Especially after historically it was suppressed here for so long.

Look at the people that never post on weather, never initiate a weather discussion complaining now instead of posting it for instance. Absurd as it sounds that used to work here to suppress discussion.

543 I dont see a disagreement here. If you do you are welcome in my blog to discus it in more detail. Motivation and intent I feel is far more initially confusing than meteorology and climatology.

546 BTW the wheat crop in china did get some help - but we are digging out of a hole food wise im afraid and like you pointed out - grains (not just corn) go to ethanol production.
Let's talk about the weather... in China.

The good news is that recent rain has reduced the 200 year drought in Shandong province to a more manageable "never seen in living memory" type event.

The bad news? Northern China simply does not have enough water and never will.

The net result of all the extreme weather and high energy costs in the recent past? The highest food costs the planet has ever seen.

And still the U.S. burns one-sixth of the world corn crop in its gas tanks for trips to Disney World. Can such obliviousness last?

“A starving person is difficult to reason with.” --Norman Borlaug
NASA's Glory spacecraft is scheduled for launch tomorrow Friday, March 4! Link Link

Glory will join the constellation of satellites known as the A-train! More about the A-Train in these links Link Link
Hurricane Forecasters Bring Preparedness Message to Mexico and Caribbean


Excerpt:

NOAA and the U.S. Air Force Reserve will host a series of public events March 21-26 in six communities in Mexico and the Caribbean to urge residents to prepare for the 2011 hurricane season.

Tours of the Air Force Reserve Command’s WC-130J “Hurricane Hunter” aircraft will be available to residents along with the opportunity to meet U.S. National Hurricane Center Director Bill Read; Senior Hurricane Specialist Lixion Avila; Tropical Analysis and Forecast Branch meteorologist Scott Strippling; and Air Force Reservists from the 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron, 403rd Wing, Keesler Air Force Base, Miss.


Locations and times for public tours are listed below (all times are local):

•Monday, March 21st: San Jose del Cabo, Mexico, 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
•Tuesday, March 22nd: Tuxtla Gutiérrez, Mexico, 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
•Wednesday, March 23rd: Grand Cayman Island, 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
•Thursday, March 24th: Curacao, Netherlands Antilles, 12:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
•Friday, March 25th: St. Lucia, 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
•Saturday, March 26th: Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico, 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
Quoting JFLORIDA:
539 I enjoy technical climate discussion - It is the recorded observational core and history of meteorology. Thats a fact of the science. I don't mind the occasional sparing to facilitate that discussion either. Especially after historically it was suppressed here for so long.

Look at the people that never post on weather, never initiate a weather discussion complaining now instead of posting it for instance. Absurd as it sounds that used to work here to suppress discussion.

i have fully followed everything you've said, in the vacuum of your own context. fortunately for my sake, you've made enough statements that i'm starting to get a clue as to why my posts were used as a platform to make the points you have.

that is very well. i agree about the use of 'civility' lately as a smoke screen. i also feel that civility has genuinely become an antiquated practice. i'm not concerned about it myself, seeking reason and well founded logic above all other things. that is probably why i can tolerate your remarks with greater ease than some others in here.
Quoting sirmaelstrom:


Seriously...I don't know why anybody would put any significant effort in complaining about the content of comments on a message board. I know I generally prefer to avoid the political discussions myself but I never would complain that they exist. It's just too easy to ignore them. But anyway...

You want to talk about the weather? Fine, you first...What specifically do you want to talk about?
Sure is windy in the Keys today. Great Kite flying weather, but I hate the way it is drying out my garden. Hopefully we will get some rain from the next front, if it makes it this far.
Quoting HIPPOCRITT:
This blog is either 'look at the apocolyptocane the GFS shows hitting SoFLA 15 days from now!' or its 'AHHHH GLOBAL WARMING'.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Or it's:

"How ya doin'?"

"I'm good. How are you?"

"Great. I see there's no weather talk again."

"Yeah, people come on here and talk only about tropical weather or climate."

"Yeah, I know. It gets old. Here, look at this classic rock video I found on YouTube."

"Oh, great! That was when music was real. Kids these days wouldn't know music. Here, look at this video from the same year."

"That was awesome. Ah, well."

"Yes."

"You think the forum will ever get back to where it was? You know, people talking about weather?"

"I don't know. Like I said, all I ever see are people talking about tropical weather or climate."

"Yeah. It gets old."

"Yes, really old."

"Yeah. Well, I'm gonna lurk. I'll come back when people start talking about something other than tropical weather and climate."

"Don't know if that will happen, but okay. Take care. And here's a video for you to watch. It's from the 70s."

;-)

As has been stated before, coming in here and complaining about the current subject without offering anything but that complaint is very much like walking into a room, stopping the conversation, then sitting quietly. IOW, if you've something substantive to add, add it. Please. Otherwise, well, you know...
Nea... well played.
i don't contribute much myself, but i ain't complainin
549 thats more like it. bit of a hip shot there but yea to your credit, no one wants to bounce their best ideas off a rock in a hole when a wonderfully constructed stage is also present. Or at least they shouldn't. Right?!

553 scary hopefully thats for the whole site.
What was the best Climate Humor of 2010?

Joe Romm offers us his answer.
Quoting kwgirl:
Sure is windy in the Keys today. Great Kite flying weather, but I hate the way it is drying out my garden. Hopefully we will get some rain from the next front, if it makes it this far.


Pretty breezy where I've been today too (Gainesville and Ocala). Supposedly a decent shot at a quarter-inch or so of rain around Sunday for Central Florida. Quick check of the NWS forecast calls for only 20% or less chance of rain for the Keys everyday for the next week. Lot of chances to fly your kite.

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№ 551 LOL...Good Job!
Quoting Neapolitan:

Or it's:

"How ya doin'?"

"I'm good. How are you?"

"Great. I see there's no weather talk again."

"Yeah, people come on here and talk only about tropical weather or climate."

"Yeah, I know. It gets old. Here, look at this classic rock video I found on YouTube."

"Oh, great! That was when music was real. Kids these days wouldn't know music. Here, look at this video from the same year."

"That was awesome. Ah, well."

"Yes."

"You think the forum will ever get back to where it was? You know, people talking about weather?"

"I don't know. Like I said, all I ever see are people talking about tropical weather or climate."

"Yeah. It gets old."

"Yes, really old."

"Yeah. Well, I'm gonna lurk. I'll come back when people start talking about something other than tropical weather and climate."

"Don't know if that will happen, but okay. Take care. And here's a video for you to watch. It's from the 70s."

;-)

As has been stated before, coming in here and complaining about the current subject without offering anything but that complaint is very much like walking into a room, stopping the conversation, then sitting quietly. IOW, if you've something substantive to add, add it. Please. Otherwise, well, you know...


Phht!
Quoting JFLORIDA:
549 thats more like it. bit of a hip shot there but yea to your credit, no one wants to bounce their ideas off a rock in a hole when a wonderfully constructed stage is also present. Or at least they shouldn't. Right?!

must you beg the question? :P
how about that hip shot! (tis an ironic jest y'all, from fallacy 101)
Quoting Minnemike:
i'm ...seeking reason and well founded logic above all other things. that is probably why i can tolerate your remarks with greater ease than some others in here.



Ditto.
Shrinking Tundra, Advancing Forests: How the Arctic Will Look by Century's End

ScienceDaily (Mar. 3, 2011) %u2014 Imagine the vast, empty tundra in Alaska and Canada giving way to trees, shrubs and plants typical of more southerly climates. Imagine similar changes in large parts of Eastern Europe, northern Asia and Scandinavia, as needle-leaf and broadleaf forests push northward into areas once unable to support them. Imagine part of Greenland's ice cover, once thought permanent, receding and leaving new tundra in its wake.
Those changes are part of a reorganization of Arctic climates anticipated to occur by the end of the 21st century, as projected by a team of University of Nebraska-Lincoln and South Korean climatologists.

In an article to be published in a forthcoming issue of the scientific journal Climate Dynamics, the research team analyzed 16 global climate models from 1950 to 2099 and combined it with more than 100 years of observational data to evaluate what climate change might mean to the Arctic's sensitive ecosystems by the dawn of the 22nd century.
The study is one of the first to apply a specific climate classification system to a comprehensive examination of climate changes throughout the Arctic by using both observations and a collection of projected future climate changes, said Song Feng, research assistant professor in UNL's School of Natural Resources and the study's lead author.

Based on the climate projections, the new study shows that the areas of the Arctic now dominated by polar and sub-polar climate types will decline and will be replaced by more temperate climates -- changes that could affect a quarter to nearly half of the Arctic, depending on future greenhouse gas emission scenarios, by the year 2099.

Changes to Arctic vegetation will naturally follow shifts in the region's climates: Tundra coverage would shrink by 33 to 44 percent by the end of the century, while temperate climate types that support coniferous forests and needle-leaf trees would push northward into the breach, the study shows....

Link
Quoting sirmaelstrom:


Pretty breezy where I've been today too (Gainesville and Ocala). Supposedly a decent shot at a quarter-inch or so of rain around Sunday for Central Florida. Quick check of the NWS forecast calls for only 20% or less chance of rain for the Keys everyday for the next week. Lot of chances to fly your kite.

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&#x2116 551 LOL...Good Job!
Yes, this is definitely our dry season and since it is sunny and in the 70's and 80's, really, perfect beach weather. I guess I have to go back to my once a week watering. I have been relying on the dew but that is getting less and less.
The accuweather spring forecast for the mid-atlantic is bogus.I think we'll see a warm spring here.Heck the buds are already in full force,and ready to bloom.I remember when they forecasted that we were going to see a warm January.Then they did a complete 360.(>.>).
Climate Change Costs Could Top $8 Trillion by 2030

"It's not a good week for climate change naysayers. According to a report released this week, climate change will have significant structural impacts on the transportation, construction, and manufacturing industries over the next 20 years and could account for costs over $8 trillion by the year 2030. This comes quick on the heels of news that...entire portions of coastal towns across the United States will be submerged in the coming decades."

Article...

Now if that doesn't motivate you to action, you're probably the type who stands in the front door of his mobile home watching a mile-wide EF-5 tornado headed straight at you, swallowing the last of your cheap can of beer and telling yourself that it'll swerve, yeah, it'll swerve. You're like Bill Murray's character in Groundhog Day, driving a car down the railroad tracks playing chicken, certain that the oncoming train will turn to the side at any moment... ;-)
Nea, donate your salary and take action then
Quoting kwgirl:
Yes, this is definitely our dry season and since it is sunny and in the 70's and 80's, really, perfect beach weather. I guess I have to go back to my once a week watering. I have been relying on the dew but that is getting less and less.


Current three month US outlooks for drought and precipitation:


From here.


From here.

Looks like more of the same through May.
Quoting RitaEvac:
Nea, donate your salary and take action then

How's the view from your front door? See anything big, dirty, and spinning your way? ;-)
Not a damn thing
Quoting RitaEvac:
Nea, donate your salary and take action then
Quoting RitaEvac:
You seem to know more about all this, get off the blog, shut up, and put your money where your mouth is.


Amen.
For you, young Levi:

Researchers Crack the Mystery of the Missing Sunspots

"In 2008-2009, sunspots almost completely disappeared for two years. Solar activity dropped to hundred-year lows; Earth's upper atmosphere cooled and collapsed; the sun’s magnetic field weakened, allowing cosmic rays to penetrate the Solar System in record numbers. It was a big event, and solar physicists openly wondered, where have all the sunspots gone?

"Now they know. An answer is being published in the March 3rd edition of Nature.

"Plasma currents deep inside the sun interfered with the formation of sunspots and prolonged solar minimum," says lead author Dibyendu Nandi of the Indian Institute of Science Education and Research in Kolkata. "Our conclusions are based on a new computer model of the sun's interior."

Article
571.

Seen it. It's cool.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Climate Change Costs Could Top $8 Trillion by 2030

"It's not a good week for climate change naysayers. According to a report released this week, climate change will have significant structural impacts on the transportation, construction, and manufacturing industries over the next 20 years and could account for costs over $8 trillion by the year 2030. This comes quick on the heels of news that...entire portions of coastal towns across the United States will be submerged in the coming decades."

Article...

Now if that doesn't motivate you to action, you're probably the type who stands in the front door of his mobile home watching a mile-wide EF-5 tornado headed straight at you, swallowing the last of your cheap can of beer and telling yourself that it'll swerve, yeah, it'll swerve...


One of the studies referenced in the link is below:

http://www.fastcompany.com/1727750/miami-and-new- orleans-could-lose-10-percent-of-their-land-by-210 0-says-study

From the article:
"The world will only get wetter. That's the somber conclusion of a new study done by the University of Arizona. Miami, New York City, and Washington D.C. are among 180 coastal cities that are all at risk of facing sea level rises of 20 feet by the year 2100, causing floods and erosion and impacting over 40 million people[snip]..."


A bit overdone I think...

Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Hurricane Forecasters Bring Preparedness Message to Mexico and Caribbean


Excerpt:

NOAA and the U.S. Air Force Reserve will host a series of public events March 21-26 in six communities in Mexico and the Caribbean to urge residents to prepare for the 2011 hurricane season.

Tours of the Air Force Reserve Command’s WC-130J “Hurricane Hunter” aircraft will be available to residents along with the opportunity to meet U.S. National Hurricane Center Director Bill Read; Senior Hurricane Specialist Lixion Avila; Tropical Analysis and Forecast Branch meteorologist Scott Strippling; and Air Force Reservists from the 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron, 403rd Wing, Keesler Air Force Base, Miss.


Locations and times for public tours are listed below (all times are local):

•Monday, March 21st: San Jose del Cabo, Mexico, 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
•Tuesday, March 22nd: Tuxtla Gutiérrez, Mexico, 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
Wednesday, March 23rd: Grand Cayman Island, 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
•Thursday, March 24th: Curacao, Netherlands Antilles, 12:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
•Friday, March 25th: St. Lucia, 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
•Saturday, March 26th: Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico, 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
Lucky Kman. :p
Quoting sirmaelstrom:
A bit overdone I think...


Possibly--though A) a rise far less than that will bring about catastrophe, and B) while it may be at the high end of predictions, it's certainly within the realm of possibility.
Quoting sunlinepr:

look a lone thunderstorm in the golf of mex





Full Loop


Lightning:

Quoting Neapolitan:

Possibly--though A) a rise far less than that will bring about catastrophe, and B) while it may be at the high end of predictions, it's certainly within the realm of possibility.


Just read the second article referenced in the link. Seems to get the $8T figure from a 10% higher risk in investment portfolios due to climate change effects by 2030. I didn't see where any specifics as to what climate effects were taken into account when coming up with the figure.

Sounds reasonable though as a lot of these portfolios probably currently contain significant investments in fossil fuels, the supply of which may look quite different in 2030 than today. I would think that these portfolios would change over time to include other investments in order to avoid such risks/losses though.

Added: Actually it seems that the uncertainty over what effects to expect by 2030 is what their referring to, thus making harder to know how to adjust the portfolio. I think uncertainties in the supply of current fuel sources would be far more important. I think whatever changes in climate occur by 2030 will occur slow enough to allow portfolios to be adjusted accordingly.
Now dengue seems established and coming out of a drought I think we should expect to at least see a few if not more cases in the Miami area this season. Possibly more up into central and N fla too.

Quoting sirmaelstrom:


Current three month US outlooks for drought and precipitation:


From here.


From here.

Looks like more of the same through May.



Not sure if I buy into that completely, to be significantly below average we will have to average 0.50 or less for each of those 3 months. At the same time though, I wouldn't be surprised.
Oh I can't wait to see what storm names their gonna retire this year.I know two are in the cards.I think Igor,and Tomas has the highest percent of getting retired.Maybe Alex,Karl,and Matthew may stand a chance.Earl not likley?
add Hortence to that retirement list.

And Jethro....
I think that Florida will likley break their drought conditions this summer,and early fall if the U.S is under the gun from hurricans/tropical activity.We'll see.But a weak tropical storm,or tropical depression won't hurt anyone.......right?..
How about Peter?
I think Buford is being retired to....
Quoting NRAamy:
add Hortence to that retirement list.

And Jethro....
Grother has already been added to the list serval times.The name won't go away...lol J/K.:P.
Grothar would be an awesome name for a storm.....

:)

but so would dashboard cowman!

:)

or better yet..... SQUAWK!!!!!!!

:)
Quoting washingtonian115:
Oh I can't wait to see what storm names their gonna retire this year.I know two are in the cards.I think Igor,and Tomas has the highest percent of getting retired.Maybe Alex,Karl,and Matthew may stand a chance.Earl not likley?

My take:

Igor: 95% chance of retirement
Tomas: 80%
Alex: 40%
Karl: 40%
Matthew: 30%

And, yes, I realize these percentages are pretty much pointless. 'Tis just for fun...
Quoting Jedkins01:



Not sure if I buy into that completely, to be significantly below average we will have to average 0.50 or less for each of those 3 months. At the same time though, I wouldn't be surprised.


Well...I'm assuming you're referring to Florida. Would it have to necessarily have to be that low though? I would guess that average for North/Central Florida for March-May would a few inches per month, varying somewhat depending on the specific location.

Quoting Orcasystems:
I think for some down south.. it might be a pleasant change for you to look at what the rest of the world looks at. Go to some non American news sites.

canada.com
bbc.com

You won't find out what Paris Hilton wore yesterday.. or who Charley Sheen is sleeping with... but the news is quite interesting.

+1000

Quoting jwh250:
Click for Intercourse, Pennsylvania Forecast
Yep yust yup der vrode vrum Blue Ball
Quoting Neapolitan:

My take:

Igor: 95% chance of retirement
Tomas: 80%
Alex: 40%
Karl: 40%
Matthew: 30%

And, yes, I realize these percentages are pretty much pointless. 'Tis just for fun...
I love speculation!,and anticapation
Quoting Jedkins01:



Not sure if I buy into that completely, to be significantly below average we will have to average 0.50 or less for each of those 3 months. At the same time though, I wouldn't be surprised.

I was thinking on my way home from work that if I were a praying man I would be asking for rain and the weather gods would be asking "So how much damage and how many lives is it worth to you to go fishing? Only way to put water where you want it is with a Con-US Hurricane."
Quoting Orcasystems:
I think for some down south.. it might be a pleasant change for you to look at what the rest of the world looks at. Go to some non American news sites.

canada.com
bbc.com

You won't find out what Paris Hilton wore yesterday.. or who Charley Sheen is sleeping with... but the news is quite interesting.


Hey! Don't be so hard on us Americans! I noticed on the canada.com site that "Charlie Sheen" is listed as hot topics across the top.

Anyway, I did find something interesting on the BBC site that I haven't seen posted anywhere else so I'm linking it below.

Antarctic ice sheet built 'bottom-up'


Added: Man...I'm supposed to be meeting some colleagues for a meeting and drinks at around five and I've just realized it's already past six. I hope I'm not in the wrong restaurant...
Quoting sirmaelstrom:


Well...I'm assuming you're referring to Florida. Would it have to necessarily have to be that low though? I would guess that average for North/Central Florida for March-May would a few inches per month, varying somewhat depending on the specific location.


yep, it is about 2 to 3 inches a month. It is typically the driest time of year. February we usually get about 3.5 to 4 inches, we certainly didn't reach that this last February, thanks to La Nina.

Quoting sunlinepr:
Shrinking Tundra, Advancing Forests: How the Arctic Will Look by Century's End

ScienceDaily (Mar. 3, 2011) %u2014 Imagine the vast, empty tundra in Alaska and Canada giving way to trees, shrubs and plants typical of more southerly climates. Imagine similar changes in large parts of Eastern Europe, northern Asia and Scandinavia, as needle-leaf and broadleaf forests push northward into areas once unable to support them. Imagine part of Greenland's ice cover, once thought permanent, receding and leaving new tundra in its wake.
Those changes are part of a reorganization of Arctic climates anticipated to occur by the end of the 21st century, as projected by a team of University of Nebraska-Lincoln and South Korean climatologists.

In an article to be published in a forthcoming issue of the scientific journal Climate Dynamics, the research team analyzed 16 global climate models from 1950 to 2099 and combined it with more than 100 years of observational data to evaluate what climate change might mean to the Arctic's sensitive ecosystems by the dawn of the 22nd century.
The study is one of the first to apply a specific climate classification system to a comprehensive examination of climate changes throughout the Arctic by using both observations and a collection of projected future climate changes, said Song Feng, research assistant professor in UNL's School of Natural Resources and the study's lead author.

Based on the climate projections, the new study shows that the areas of the Arctic now dominated by polar and sub-polar climate types will decline and will be replaced by more temperate climates -- changes that could affect a quarter to nearly half of the Arctic, depending on future greenhouse gas emission scenarios, by the year 2099.

Changes to Arctic vegetation will naturally follow shifts in the region's climates: Tundra coverage would shrink by 33 to 44 percent by the end of the century, while temperate climate types that support coniferous forests and needle-leaf trees would push northward into the breach, the study shows....

Link


Its OK imagining all these sorts of thing but will there be anybody there, when it may become reality to see that the imagining has come into future reality? All this is going to come about due to CO2 increase and that might eliminate us/the watchers, in the same process!!
Beware of the cost of future paradise?
599. 78787
http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/ml/ocean/sst/anom_anim.ht ml
Quoting PlazaRed:


Its OK imagining all these sorts of thing but will there be anybody there, when it may become reality to see that the imagining has come into future reality? All this is going to come about due to CO2 increase and that might eliminate us/the watchers, in the same process!!
Beware of the cost of future paradise?


Global warming does not equal planetary destruction, nor the elimination of the human race. It will cause issues and possibly wars, but unless some long dormant doom virus is suspended in the ice somewhere, it's very very unlikely that the human race will be eliminated. Pain, suffering, inconvenience are probable. Disasters? Likely. But humans will still be around.
601. DDR
Quoting mnsky:
Wow~ !labels=1 labels=1 labels=1labels=1


Large Visitor Globe

Action:
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Member Since: June 28, 2010 Posts: 1 Comments: 12


Cool globe
It says Tacarigua as my location,its only off by 1.5 kilometers.
Quoting 78787Quoting Orcasystems:
I think for some down south.. it might be a pleasant change for you to look at what the rest of the world looks at. Go to some non American news sites.

canada.com
bbc.com

You won't find out what Paris Hilton wore yesterday.. or who Charley Sheen is sleeping with... but the news is quite interesting.

I'm with Hillary and what she said today: "Viewership of Al Jazeera is going up in the United States because it's real news. You may not agree with it, but you feel like you're getting real news around the clock instead of a million commercials and, you know, arguments between talking heads, and the kind of stuff that we do on our news."

Source...
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Global warming does not equal planetary destruction, nor the elimination of the human race. It will cause issues and possibly wars, but unless some long dormant doom virus is suspended in the ice somewhere, it's very very unlikely that the human race will be eliminated. Pain, suffering, inconvenience are probable. Disasters? Likely. But humans will still be around.
Quoting sirmaelstrom:


Hey! Don't be so hard on us Americans! I noticed on the canada.com site that....


Also found this article:

War and peace: Making sense of climate conflict Richard Black | 18:49 UK time, Friday, 18 February 2011

It must have seemed a good idea at the time; to get a group of people together from "both sides of the climate debate", put them in a room for a few days, and see whether peace would spontaneously break out....

Link

Quoting Xyrus2000:


Global warming does not equal planetary destruction, nor the elimination of the human race. It will cause issues and possibly wars, but unless some long dormant doom virus is suspended in the ice somewhere, it's very very unlikely that the human race will be eliminated. Pain, suffering, inconvenience are probable. Disasters? Likely. But humans will still be around.


Well put!
Planetary destruction is probably out of the question as CO2 isn't normally known as a planet destroyer.
It is an agent in forming acid rain though and this is going to make a mess of any new paradise soils, not yet to get into mentioning the seas on the continental shelves, as rain runs off along with carbonic acid H2CO3
I think the doom ''virus'' might be methane release and possibly a few more nasty things in the ancient melting ice.
European/US rocket - The Liberty rocket and the 'genetics' of human spaceflight Jonathan Amos | 19:49 UK time, Tuesday, 8 February 2011
Link


I wondered how long it would take before we saw Europe's biggest space company, Astrium, step into the race to develop a follow-on to the soon-to-be retired space shuttle.
It needs a US partner to get involved in the Nasa commercial crew development programme, of course, and in ATK it has one of the key companies in human spaceflight rocketry.



The firms' proposed Liberty rocket would mesh elements from the shuttle launch system with Europe's Ariane 5.
The new vehicle would incorporate a shuttle-derived, five-segment, solid-fuelled booster provided by ATK as the first stage, with an Ariane 5 cryogenic-core-stage and Vulcain-2 engine from Astrium making up the second stage (Vulcains are produced by French firm Snecma).



Quoting greentortuloni:
manatees death set new record over last two years.


I sure wish we could see so called news reports based on facts instead of coulds and maybes.
Quoting Neapolitan:

I'm with Hillary and what she said today: "Viewership of Al Jazeera is going up in the United States because it's real news. You may not agree with it, but you feel like you're getting real news around the clock instead of a million commercials and, you know, arguments between talking heads, and the kind of stuff that we do on our news."

Source...


And besides it's so deliciously anti American in general.
Quoting Neapolitan:
For you, young Levi:

Researchers Crack the Mystery of the Missing Sunspots

"In 2008-2009, sunspots almost completely disappeared for two years. Solar activity dropped to hundred-year lows; Earth's upper atmosphere cooled and collapsed; the sun’s magnetic field weakened, allowing cosmic rays to penetrate the Solar System in record numbers. It was a big event, and solar physicists openly wondered, where have all the sunspots gone?

"Now they know. An answer is being published in the March 3rd edition of Nature.

"Plasma currents deep inside the sun interfered with the formation of sunspots and prolonged solar minimum," says lead author Dibyendu Nandi of the Indian Institute of Science Education and Research in Kolkata. "Our conclusions are based on a new computer model of the sun's interior."

Article


There's already a comment in "Nature" from someone in the know stating that the current solar observations don't match their wonderful new model. Just what we need: another model that can't live up to expectations. I'm sure they are already finding ways to massage the data.
Quoting PlazaRed:


Well put!
Planetary destruction is probably out of the question as CO2 isn't normally known as a planet destroyer.
It is an agent in forming acid rain though and this is going to make a mess of any new paradise soils, not yet to get into mentioning the seas on the continental shelves, as rain runs off along with carbonic acid H2CO3
I think the doom ''virus'' might be methane release and possibly a few more nasty things in the ancient melting ice.


Methane is non-toxic to humans unless the concentrations get ridiculously high (or oxygen levels drop sufficiently). However, a large methane release would cause global temperatures to rise quite noticeably.
Quoting twincomanche:


And besides it's so deliciously anti American in general.

Only if one considers the truth "anti American". I--and many others--find Al Jazeera refreshingly honest. The thing is, there's a lot of good with America, but there's also a lot of bad. Pretending the former is all that exists while ignoring the latter is foolish and highly counterproductive.

Anyway: 88 days, 22 hours, and 43 minutes until hurricane season officially begins. It'll be here before we know it...
613. JRRP
Quoting JRRP:


Revenge of the cold tongue?
Quoting Neapolitan:

I'm with Hillary and what she said today: "Viewership of Al Jazeera is going up in the United States because it's real news. You may not agree with it....."

Source...

Al Jazeera Director General Wadah Khanfar Heralds 'Birth Of New Era' In Arab World
Presentation at the TED conference in Long Beach.

Link
Thousands of home computers infiltrated after hackers infect high-profile websites with booby-trapped ads By Graham Smith Last updated at 7:59 AM on 3rd March 2011

Tens of thousands of people are feared to have had their computers infected by booby-trapped adverts on websites including the London Stock Exchange as the full extent of a cyber-attack which began on Sunday becomes apparent.
The scam, which also involved ads on Autotrader, Vue and six other websites, began on Sunday after cyber-criminals hacked into an ad firm's IT system.
Malicious adverts were then released which caused fake virus warnings to pop-up on computers belonging to those surfing the affected sites.

Link


March 3rd Sea Surface Temps; And other years on this date...

March 2, 2011

March 2, 2010


March 2, 2009


March 2, 2008


March 2, 2007


March 2, 2006


March 2, 2005
Quoting Neapolitan:

Only if one considers the truth "anti American". I--and many others--find Al Jazeera refreshingly honest. The thing is, there's a lot of good with America, but there's also a lot of bad. Pretending the former is all that exists while ignoring the latter is foolish and highly counterproductive.

Anyway: 88 days, 22 hours, and 43 minutes until hurricane season officially begins. It'll be here before we know it...


Next time Al Jazeera or MSNBC says something positive about America let me know. I will be standing by. Or you for that matter.
Evening everybody.

Just checking in for a couple minutes. I'm not liking the cooler snap we got today - makes me think we're heading back to winter! lol

But we are supposed to get a few more cold snaps before the end of the month, so I better get used to it... It's really the winds in March that keep things cool, though, and we had some pretty speedy ones today.

Anybody else still following the developments with the NZ earthquake? They're up to 160 deaths confirmed, and a lot of digging out yet to be done.

“The truth is rarely pure and never simple.”
“What you perceive, your observations, feelings, interpretations, are all your truth. Your truth is important. Yet it is not The Truth.”
Wow. Absolutely nothing interesting happened on this page.... lol

Aside from the retrospective look at March SSTs....
623. JRRP
Quoting Levi32:


Revenge of the cold tongue?

Quoting JRRP:


Have you seen the high SST anomaly of the western Australia coast? Looks toasty.
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Have you seen the high SST anomaly of the western Australia coast? Looks toasty.
I saw the same thing, i bet a lot of people are hitting the beach in aussie
What about off Madagascar?

Here is madasgascar
Will be back later...
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
look into the avatar JF


me thinks the lad doth protest too much

Quoting Cochise000:


There's already a comment in "Nature" from someone in the know stating that the current solar observations don't match their wonderful new model. Just what we need: another model that can't live up to expectations. I'm sure they are already finding ways to massage the data.


With a tale forsooth he cometh unto you, with a tale which holdeth children from play, and old men from the chimney corner.

631. JRRP
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Have you seen the high SST anomaly of the western Australia coast? Looks toasty.

yeah
and west of United States has been cooling

Quoting HurricaneDean07:
March 3rd Sea Surface Temps; And other years on this date...

March 2, 2011

March 2, 2010


March 2, 2009


March 2, 2008


March 2, 2007


March 2, 2006


March 2, 2005


Interesting the placement of the cool spots with respect to those graphs in the Southern Caribbean and the seasons involved.....Make ya wonder,,,,Hummm, thanks !
Quoting twincomanche:


I sure wish we could see so called news reports based on facts instead of coulds and maybes.


What's the matter with Faux News or the Communist News Network (CNN)?
Quoting Dakster:


What's the matter with Faux News or the Communist News Network (CNN)?


They occasionally stumble upon the facts.
Hmmm. Facts. I didn't know those where important when reporting the news.
Quoting Dakster:
Hmmm. Facts. I didn't know those where important when reporting the news.

Nowadays these rarely get in the way of the story.
“The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world”
I note temps near Africa's hurricane zone seem relatively normal. Seems excess heat is concentrated further south. I wonder how that heat anomaly is affecting weather in Perth....

Anyway, good night to all.
Night Baha
641. xcool
642. flsky
Quoting Dakster:


What's the matter with Faux News or the Communist News Network (CNN)?

Are you still in high school?
This is apparently how Fox News is referred to here on WU, as the Faux News. Name calling seems to be a accepted form of communication.
Quoting sunlinepr:



632, does not seem anyone brought this up :)

NASA: Humanoid robot moves onto space station


OR


NASA: Humanoid Robot Launching Into Future

Ya just never know what ya find :^#


Fixed link, I think ,,,,

Edit, nope, it is being truncated, discretionary policy in force.....

President Obama urges astronauts to unpack robot
Quoting Ossqss:



632, does not seem anyone brought this up :)

NASA: Humanoid robot moves onto space station

NASA: Humanoid Robot Launching Into Future

Ya just never know what ya find :^#

President Obama urges astronauts to unpack robot


I get a error on the third link.
Quoting Ossqss:



632, does not seem anyone brought this up :)

NASA: Humanoid robot moves onto space station


OR


NASA: Humanoid Robot Launching Into Future

Ya just never know what ya find :^#

President Obama urges astronauts to unpack robot


The HAL27000 prepares to take over the International Space Station.
Quoting twincomanche:


I get a error on the third link.


Worked this time. That's even scarier.
Quoting twincomanche:


I get a error on the third link.


Try it now, I think I Fixxed it :)

Iron Horse fire update~ It's been windy but we had firefighters from all over come to knock it down..

6:50 p.m. update

Firefighters tonight plan to improve fire lines around a western section of the Iron Horse fire burning in Brevard and Volusia counties.

Division of Forestry officials revised the acreage of the fire, putting it at 16,715, after taking global positioning system measurements.

Officials say smoke will be an issue for some time. Residents are asked to call 9-1-1 to report flames only, not smoke.

More than 200 firefighters from across Brevard County as well as surrounding counties helped fight the massive brush fire.

— Susanne Cervenka
Area forecast discussion...corrected
National Weather Service New Orleans la


Sat and Sat night will be the more active time frame for our area.
The trough will continue to dig and become more amplified as it
works east. A cold front will slowly work into the County Warning Area from the northwest
late Sat with a weak surface wave developing along the front over the
County Warning Area. By early Sat evn models indicate a developing surface low over southern MS
and pushing east into Alabama. There will actually be a lot more going
for strong/severe storms with this system than the past few we have
seen. We will have good forcing moving right through the County Warning Area along
with the rrq of the upper jet along with a developing surface low with
the cold front moving through overnight. However...the biggest
difference is the models are actually indicating some instability to
work with. Overall shear is not that impressive and the wind field
GOES unidirectional pretty early in the day. In fact the 800 mb and 700 mb
winds are actually backed compared to the winds below and this could
really hamper the Mode of severe weather. This scenario really
indicates more of a straighting wind and hail risk and a greatly
reduced risk of tornadoes. Rain showers and thunderstorms and rain will continue off and on
through the day Sat impacting numerous locations and any mardi gras
activities that are going on. As we head into the evn hours there is
some minor disagreement b/T the models with the GFS being a little
fast and trying to push the front through the area during the early
evn hours possibly bringing an end to rain over much of the region by
9pm(possibly earlier). On the other hand is the slower European model (ecmwf) which
we tend to agree with a little more and doesnt push the front
through until after midnight.

Federal researchers declare eastern cougar extinct
By MICHAEL RUBINKAM, Associated Press Michael Rubinkam, Associated Press Wed Mar 2, 4:04 pm ET

ALLENTOWN, Pa. %u2013 The "ghost cat" is just that.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on Wednesday declared the eastern cougar to be extinct, confirming a widely held belief among wildlife biologists that native populations of the big cat were wiped out by man a century ago.

After a lengthy review, federal officials concluded there are no breeding populations of cougars %u2014 also known as pumas, panthers, mountain lions and catamounts %u2014 in the eastern United States. Researchers believe the eastern cougar subspecies has probably been extinct since the 1930s.
Sorry about that weather for Mardi Gras, Pat...we too were planning an outdoor weekend....but who knows...we can always just "get out in it" Right?
Quoting Skyepony:
Iron Horse fire update~ It's been windy but we had firefighters from all over come to knock it down..

6:50 p.m. update

Firefighters tonight plan to improve fire lines around a western section of the Iron Horse fire burning in Brevard and Volusia counties.

Division of Forestry officials revised the acreage of the fire, putting it at 16,715, after taking global positioning system measurements.

Officials say smoke will be an issue for some time. Residents are asked to call 9-1-1 to report flames only, not smoke.

More than 200 firefighters from across Brevard County as well as surrounding counties helped fight the massive brush fire.

%u2014 Susanne Cervenka


If there are any airborne firefighting assets there just make sure they don't dump any of those evil chemical's into the water. Has it occurred to anyone that these fires are natural and should be allowed to burn themselves out?
New Zealand~ Giant wave impact..


Passengers say there was pandemonium when a big wave shattered windows and swamped the East by West Ferry in Wellington Harbour, sparking a rescue operation. Forty-four people, including two crew, were on the 8.05am Dominion Post ferry from Days Bay to Seatoun yesterday when it was struck by what is believed to be a rogue wave as it rounded Scorching Bay. "It was pretty scary – we went under and all the glass smashed," one of 28 Scots College pupils on board said. Among them was a year nine boy from St Andrew's College in Christchurch, who has been staying with his grandfather in Eastbourne since last week's earthquake. Sam Martel told One News he had refused to take off his prized St Andrew's College blazer when told to do so by ferry staff. "I sort of said, nah, I'd prefer to keep my blazer on, because I want to wear it with pride." Sergeant Scott Miller said it was believed up to 4000 litres of water swamped the ferry when it went nose first into a trough and was swamped by a wave. A second wave followed, blowing out the ferry's doors. One passenger was washed overboard, but was quickly picked up by the police launch, he said. That man, and the captain, were taken to hospital, where they were treated for hypothermia. The captain also had stitches for a cut to the head. Both were discharged yesterday afternoon.

Afterwards, the wet but mostly cheerful passengers described the panic on board when the wave hit. "It was a sinking moment of absolute panic when water came in. It felt like [we were] potentially going to go straight to the bottom ... It was horrendous," David Woodnorth said. Scots College pupil Carlos Speirs, 13, said it was just pandemonium. He was among pupils on the boat's top level. "I could see the big wave coming then I heard a shattering and a bang. Me and my classmates ran to the back because the ship was at about a 60 degree angle going headfirst into the water." Commuter Robin Newton praised the handling of the situation by emergency staff. "It was very speedy. People were starting to be off-loaded into the zodiacs [boats] within 20 to 25 minutes." Among the first on the scene were members of the Worser Bay Surf Life Saving Club, who helped shuttle people to shore, where they were taken to the club before being collected by family. Many passengers praised the teenagers on board, saying the older pupils took charge and looked after the younger boys. Anne Manchester said one pupil asked her if she could swim, and offered to help her to shore. "He was the calmest person."

Scots College headmaster Graeme Yule had already received praise for the pupils, and said he was proud of the way they had behaved. The pupils were taken back to the school and given a hot drink and biscuits while they waited for their parents to arrive. Ms Manchester questioned whether the ferry should have sailed. "It was extremely rough and all of us had felt probably that sailing shouldn't have happened." Maritime New Zealand is investigating. East by West Ferries managing director Jeremy Ward said the company would also investigate, but ferries had sailed in worse weather, and it appeared to have been a freak wave. Water was pumped off the ferry and it was moored at Scorching Bay until the weather calmed enough for it to return to its berth. The ferry service will operate on a limited timetable until the boat is repaired. Stormy weather whipped through Wellington yesterday, with gales topping 50 knots (92kmh) in some places. MetService chief forecaster Peter Kreft said winds were 25 to 30 knots for most of the morning, with regular gusts above 40 knots.
Quoting Patrap:
Area forecast discussion...corrected
National Weather Service New Orleans la


Sat and Sat night will be the more active time frame for our area.
The trough will continue to dig and become more amplified as it
works east. A cold front will slowly work into the County Warning Area from the northwest
late Sat with a weak surface wave developing along the front over the
County Warning Area. By early Sat evn models indicate a developing surface low over southern MS
and pushing east into Alabama. There will actually be a lot more going
for strong/severe storms with this system than the past few we have
seen. We will have good forcing moving right through the County Warning Area along
with the rrq of the upper jet along with a developing surface low with
the cold front moving through overnight. However...the biggest
difference is the models are actually indicating some instability to
work with. Overall shear is not that impressive and the wind field
GOES unidirectional pretty early in the day. In fact the 800 mb and 700 mb
winds are actually backed compared to the winds below and this could
really hamper the Mode of severe weather. This scenario really
indicates more of a straighting wind and hail risk and a greatly
reduced risk of tornadoes. Rain showers and thunderstorms and rain will continue off and on
through the day Sat impacting numerous locations and any mardi gras
activities that are going on. As we head into the evn hours there is
some minor disagreement b/T the models with the GFS being a little
fast and trying to push the front through the area during the early
evn hours possibly bringing an end to rain over much of the region by
9pm(possibly earlier). On the other hand is the slower European model (ecmwf) which
we tend to agree with a little more and doesnt push the front
through until after midnight.

hello everyone does any of you all have a link to the past (TWD)and can you post it thanks
Doc Masters talks about St. Augustine fire but I think he meant Titusville/Oak Hill.
Was driving south on I-95 yesterday into smoke then saw police cars racing north from Brevard County line with lights flashing.
Heard shortly afterward they had closed 95 and were diverting to Bee Line...so got lucky!
We have been dry all summer, dry all fall, and now it's winter into spring and still dry. The palm trees are browning and there is plenty of fuel for the fires.
Pakistan~

Major loss of property has been reported in Naushki, Chagai and Quetta following the torrential rains which were accompanied by a hailstorm. Quetta Division Commissioner, Naseem Lehri, confirmed that more than 50 houses had been swept away due to the rains and floodwater in Naushki, while 12 more collapsed in Chagai, close to the Afghan border. The land route between Karachi to Quetta and Khuzdar to Shadat Kot remained disrupted for several hours due to landsliding and floods. Quetta and the adjoining areas received about 30 millimetres of rain on Tuesday night, an official of the Met Office said on Wednesday, forecasting more rains across Balochistan during the next 24 hours. The heavy rains have wrecked havoc in the province by leaving dozens of people homeless. “Around 60 houses were washed away in Kili Zarin Ziarat in Naushki when the Dosay Band was broken by the heavy rains,” the Quetta Division commissioner said, adding that many houses and shops in Quetta had also been damaged. The Provincial Disaster Management Authority (PDMA) has dispatched 125 tents and blankets to Naushki for the victims. “Damage assessment is underway because it is a vast area and will take time to reach out to all the people, Lehri told Daily Times. The intermittent rains have been lashing Quetta and other areas for the past 20 days, and have caused heavy damages to the highways, roads, bridges and houses, he said.

In Quetta, rainwater has seeped into houses and government buildings while walls of several houses have collapsed. “Suction pumps have been engaged to drain out water from the houses, shops and roads in Quetta,” Lehri said. He added that rescue work was underway in Quetta and adjoining areas. However, the commissioner said officials had not been able to assess the damages caused by the heavy showers. The Met official said that around 20 mud houses had been damaged in Killi Chagai in Chagai district. The rains have caused flash floods in the seasonal rivers and nullas in Mastung and Khuzdar districts, and in Mastung, a teenage boy, Khaliq Ahmed, was listed missing as a flash flood swept him away on Wednesday. In Khuzdar, the low-lying areas were submerged in rainwater and the highway between Khuzdar and Shadat Kot was blocked due to landsliding. The traffic between Quetta and Karachi was also disrupted for many hours as bridges and causeways were washed away in Mastung, some 50 kilometres away from Quetta. more here


Still no signs of freezing at Jakobshavn Isbrae outlet, Greenland.

Rising Temperatures Bringing Bigger Floods

Estonia claims Europe's longest ice highway
Quoting Chicklit:
Doc Masters talks about St. Augustine fire but I think he meant Titusville/Oak Hill.
Was driving south on I-95 yesterday into smoke then saw police cars racing north from Brevard County line with lights flashing.
Heard shortly afterward they had closed 95 and were diverting to Bee Line...so got lucky!
We have been dry all summer, dry all fall, and now it's winter into spring and still dry. The palm trees are browning and there is plenty of fuel for the fires.


I-95 is closed? Where, and will it re-open for March Break? I'm not going to drive there, somebody I know is though.
Brush fires are a natural occurrence in Florida in the dry season. Why don't we let them just burn themselves out in the natural order of things? Let nature take it's course?
Disease is the natural order of things. Why not forgo antibiotics and vaccination and let nature take it's course?
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


I-95 is closed? Where, and will it re-open for March Break? I'm not going to drive there, somebody I know is though.

It's mostly open. Just occasionally closed. Listen to local radio stations.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Disease is the natural order of things. Why not forgo antibiotics and vaccination and let nature take it's course?

Yeah, yeah, that's the spirit. We will get back to the natural order of things with this thinking.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Disease is the natural order of things. Why not forgo antibiotics and vaccination and let nature take it's course?

I do think that there is a difference between preventing disease and letting nature take its' course as far as natural things such as the results of weather.
Quoting twincomanche:
Brush fires are a natural occurrence in Florida in the dry season. Why don't we let them just burn themselves out in the natural order of things? Let nature take it's course?


Quoting weatherboy1992:
Disease is the natural order of things. Why not forgo antibiotics and vaccination and let nature take it's course?


Because firefighters and doctors have to get paid.
our region got a special statement flying


WOCN11 CWTO 032058
Special weather statement
Issued by Environment Canada
Thursday 3 March 2011.

Special weather statement issued for..
City of Toronto
Windsor - Essex - Chatham-Kent
Sarnia - Lambton
Elgin
London - Middlesex
Simcoe - Delhi - Norfolk
Dunnville - Caledonia - Haldimand
Oxford - Brant
Niagara
City of Hamilton
Halton - Peel
York - Durham
Huron - Perth
Waterloo - Wellington
Dufferin - Innisfil
Grey - Bruce
Barrie - Orillia - Midland
Belleville - Quinte - Northumberland
Kingston - Prince Edward
Peterborough - Kawartha Lakes
Stirling - Tweed - South Frontenac
Bancroft - Bon Echo Park
Brockville - Leeds and Grenville
City of Ottawa
Gatineau
Prescott and Russell
Cornwall - Morrisburg
Smiths Falls - Lanark - Sharbot Lake
Parry Sound - Muskoka
Haliburton
Renfrew - Pembroke - Barry's Bay
Algonquin
Burk's Falls - Bayfield Inlet.

Some mixed precipitation late tonight into Friday for some regions.

Significant precipitation expected for all regions beginning late
Friday.

------------------------------------------------- --------------------
==discussion==
A pronounced trough of low pressure currently over the central
United States will approach the Great Lakes overnight. In advance of
the trough, patchy mixed precipitation in the form of snow, ice
pellets and a little freezing rain is likely to develop in the
southwest late tonight. It will gradually spread northeast on Friday
affecting a broad swath potentially including such locales as London
to Kitchener and north to Southern Georgian Bay. It is not expected
to be extensive but may create icy conditions in some locales.

A more substantial precipitation event is slated for later in the
Day Friday, continuing for a prolonged duration through much of the
upcoming weekend. The trough is expected to stall across Lake Huron
and Georgian Bay Friday night and Saturday. Ample moisture surging
northwards from the gulf of Mexico and sufficient lift along and
ahead of this trough will favour widespread rain to envelop much of
Southern Ontario later Friday and continue Friday night and
Saturday. The rain will likely be occasionally heavy, but it is too
early to precisely identify the swath of heaviest rainfall. However,
it appears a general 25 to 40 millimetres of rain is likely for the
entire period into Sunday, with some areas quite likely exceeding 50
millimetres. A rainfall warning will likely be issued as the heavy
rainfall location becomes more certain.

And just to complicate matters, some regions to the east of Georgian
Bay towards the Ottawa Valley will likely see mainly snow late
Friday and Friday night. Snowfall amounts in excess of 10
Centimetres are likely in some areas, especially near the Ottawa
Valley.

Finally, a texan low will amble northwards along the trough reaching
the lower Great Lakes on Sunday. The rain is expected to change to
snow before ending in many areas on Sunday. A swath of significant
snow is possible before the precipitation ends completely.

Please refer to the latest public forecasts for more details.

END/OSPC


Quoting DontAnnoyMe:




Because firemen and doctors have to get paid.


The logic here is so elegant. I hope you are being sarcastic.
Quoting twincomanche:


The logic here is so elegant. I hope you are being sarcastic.


Oops, yeah I forgot the ;-)

BTW, would you let a preventable natural fire destroy your property?
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


I-95 is closed? Where, and will it re-open for March Break? I'm not going to drive there, somebody I know is though.


I-95 is open at the moment. FHP has heavy smoke..use caution warnings. They've been closing it on & off for days with this Iron Horse fire. At one point a few days aga the sheriff closed it, the FL highway Patrol said they didn't use proper procedure~ opened it, NWS noted the incident because the smoke was so heavy.

Usually it gets closed early in the morning if at all..mix in some fog & dark, gets deadly.

Come on down.. it would take atleast a few more months of no rain before we'd send the tourist & spring partiers elsewhere.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Oops, yeah I forgot the ;-)

BTW, would you let a preventable natural fire destroy your property?


No but then I don't claim to be a naturalist or a environment advocate.
Quoting twincomanche:

I do think that there is a difference between preventing disease and letting nature take its' course as far as natural things such as the results of weather.


illogical
but
coming from a twisted mind
not surprising
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:




Because firefighters and doctors have to get paid.


Plus 1, but I have a comment for both.

1. Because homes would burn down and people would die. I mean c'mon Twin, why let it burn when there are homes and people around? Not surprising that came from your typing.

2. Because people would have a much shorter life if not for antibiotics and vaccines, and when I mean much shorter, I mean a lot wouldn't make to to their high school graduation.
Quoting caneswatch:


1000, but I have a comment for both.

1. Because homes would burn down and people would die. I mean c'mon Twin, why let it burn when there are homes and people around?

2. Because people would have a much shorter life if not for antibiotics and vaccines, and when I mean much shorter, I mean a lot wouldn't make to to their high school graduation.

Let's see now firefighters could get out of the way and take all the civilians and then there would be no doctors required. we are arguing perfect world stuff here now you know because that is what lives here.
Quoting twincomanche:


I just love name calling. You have a mental problem. You have no idea if I have a twisted mind or if I am jerking your chain or if merely you are in error. think about your anger.


Who called you a name?
Your command of English is laughable
but conceding your point
maybe you don't have a twisted mind
after all
but rather
just not much of one at all
Quoting twincomanche:


I just love name calling. You have a mental problem. You have no idea if I have a twisted mind or if I am jerking your chain or if merely you are in error. think about your anger.


Once again, not surprised that came from your typing.
Quoting notverylikely:


Who called you a name?
Your command of English is laughable
but conceding your point
maybe you don't have a twisted mind
after all
but rather
just not much of one at all

Bye.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Disease is the natural order of things. Why not forgo antibiotics and vaccination and let nature take it's course?


Are you kidding? That statement coming from you is fascinating. Have you gotten the fundamentals of nature back in line ? Just sayin, that is where it begins, and you well.... are anomalous to the natural, mother nature norm. How many deviations?



Were you not permanently banned SSIG for your comments about someone's children ? To bad you now circumvent that of which you preached excessivly about with respect to other bloggers who circumvented bans with new handles.

Yep, it is you in the spotlight this time!


I've faced fire storms & hurricanes. I'd prefer the hurricanes. Just like I'd board up for a 'cane, I'd put sprinklers on the roof for a fire storm. As an environment advocate I realize saving the house has less impact than rebuilding it.
Look, none of us live in the 'natural order of things' anymore. Houses aren't natural. Clothes. Cooked food. My guess is that many of us would not survive a week without them. Few of us would survive a month.

Brush fires in Florida have to be fought because Florida has 20 million people and if left to themselves fires will burn down people's homes and kill them.

And that's why we fight brush fires.
I'm not 'SSIG' ossqss. Bug off.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Disease is the natural order of things. Why not forgo antibiotics and vaccination and let nature take it's course?

Yea, why don't you let nature take it's course; throw your computer out the window and start living off the land like nature intended you to.
Quoting twincomanche:

Let's see now firefighters could get out of the way and take all the civilians and then there would be no doctors required. we are arguing perfect world stuff here now you know because that is what lives here.


Read the ENTIRE thing. Property damage would be extreme, and if you wanna be sick, be my guest. It's not a perfect world thing, it's not even a great idea.
Quoting weatherboy1992:
I'm not 'SSIG' ossqss. Bug off.


LoL, you already admitted such! Remember?

Yep, what you post is never ending bro! Realize that folks!

Can ya say screen scrape?

gnight

Quoting weatherboy1992:
Look, none of us live in the 'natural order of things' anymore. Houses aren't natural. Clothes. Cooked food. My guess is that many of us would not survive a week without them. Few of us would survive a month.

Brush fires in Florida have to be fought because Florida has 20 million people and if left to themselves fires will burn down people's homes and kill them.

And that's why we fight brush fires.


Good. You get it.
outta here for tonight. Ready to talk about the weather whenever there is some weather to talk about.
No, ossqss I never said that. And I am not. And I won't be seeing your posts anymore. Gawd.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
.


Exactly!
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Exactly!
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Exactly!


Exactly wrong......:)
I'll keep trying...lol.....when blog not busy. How ya doing.....new avatar? very nice...
The Ocala National Forest wildfire was largely controlled Thursday, while new -- but much smaller -- blazes ignited throughout the region as conditions remained prime for the land-charring fires.

Mike Drayton with the Ocala National Forest said Thursday afternoon the fire had burned almost 700 acres and was 80 to 85 percent contained.

“We're mopping it up and keeping it inside the lines,” Drayton said. “We still have about 25 people working on it.”

Meanwhile, a fire that ignited in a Gilchrist County shed burned 50 acres of grass, said Gilchrist County Fire Chief William Careccia.

The cause of the fire is not known, Careccia said. The owner of the property told firefighters the destroyed shed contained some acetylene tanks, adding that the property was being rented to someone.

“The fire spotted out of the shed and then we had embers that had it spotting over a bigger area,” he said. “Close to 50 acres was burned.” continues with details on smaller fires today.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
I'll keep trying...lol.....when blog not busy. How ya doing.....new avatar? very nice...


TY. OK, you? What are you trying to do?
I have directions (from Grothar) and I'm trying to learn to post a link.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
I have directions (from Grothar) and I'm trying to learn to post a link.


Oh, just click the link button above the comment box and paste it there - overwrite the http:// in the box.

Once you click OK, you should see the word 'Link' towards the end. You can overwrite that with something meaningful

Link

The helicorder reading for the Ar. quakes today.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Link

The helicorder reading for the Ar. quakes today.


Oh, it's an image. In that case, you have to click the Image box, not the Link box.
You can right click & highlight the words you want to tie your link to. Then click link button.
Does the link work for you, IE wont display for me.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
I have directions (from Grothar) and I'm trying to learn to post a link.


Go ahead, blame it on me. I can take it.
Quoting Skyepony:
You can right click & highlight the words you want to tie your link to. Then click link button.


?

can only highlight w/left click, but then clicking link only brings up the usual link box
Quoting Grothar:


Go ahead, blame it on me. I can take it.


Lordy Grothar...I'm a DuH !
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Lordy Grothar...I'm a DuH !


Nah, it's all his fault. lol

Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Lordy Grothar...I'm a DuH !


No you're not. It took me awhile to learn how to do it. All I posted the first week were red x's.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Nah, it's all his fault. lol



I'll give you a link you'll never forget. :P How is the night shift? Just dropped in to see who needed help.
Quoting Grothar:


I'll give you a link you'll never forget. :P How is the night shift? Just dropped in to see who needed help.


Hehehe. Been relatively quiet. You're either up late, or in an earlier time zone.
.
Quoting Grothar:


I'll give you a link you'll never forget. :P How is the night shift? Just dropped in to see who needed help.


well, I got the image...took a look at preview and it was HUGE....I'd shut the whole blog down........geeez
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Oh, it's an image. In that case, you have to click the Image box, not the Link box.


Reposting for eyes, in case she missed it.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:
.

well, I got the image...took a look at preview and it was HUGE....I'd shut the whole blog down........geeez


No it won't. Do it!
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Hehehe. Been relatively quiet. You're either up late, or in an earlier time zone.


Couldn't sleep. Still in Ft. Lauderdale. Very windy. I had this terrible nightmare, that EYES was messing up the blog so I woke up.
You know....just sayin'....I've been keeping a small eye on this creature near 25N, 68W. It's a small trough of low pressure stuck at the tail-end of a stalled-out front. With the big upper low sitting southwest of Europe and the ridge soon to build over the top of the NWATL, this little swirl is gonna be trapped and drift eastward for the next 3 days before eventually being drawn northward. It'll be under the subtropical jet the whole time, but waters are near ~24C. I wouldn't be too surprised to see it attempt to take on one or two subtropical characteristics as it interacts with the upper trough and makes its turn northward before hitting sub-20C water pretty fast.

It's a low shot, but thought it was worth mentioning. It's pretty boring in here after all.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


?

can only highlight w/left click, but then clicking link only brings up the usual link box


oops, yeah, left click to highlight. It just lets you insert the link where ever you want. You can also highlight the HTML for an image, click link & embed your link with the image.
Keeper, I still have a migraine. Get rid of that avatar or I'll have you charged with elderly abuse. Old people can't take moving images like that. It puts us in a trance like state. You wouldn't want me saying anything I shouldn't on the blog, now do you?
Quoting Grothar:


Couldn't sleep. Still in Ft. Lauderdale. Very windy. I had this terrible nightmare, that EYES was messing up the blog so I woke up.


That's a riot. Come on, EYES, he's gotta get some sleep soon! LOL
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


Still no signs of freezing at Jakobshavn Isbrae outlet, Greenland.

Rising Temperatures Bringing Bigger Floods

Estonia claims Europe's longest ice highway


We're pretty much at max extent. And even if it did finally freeze it would basically be just slush at this point.

There isn't much multi-year ice left in the arctic, and what's left is getting thin. A record minimum for extent and volume seems like a distinct possibility this year.
Quoting Skyepony:


oops, yeah, left click to highlight. It just lets you insert the link where ever you want. You can also highlight the HTML for an image, click link & embed your link with the image.


Skye, leave her alone. You're even getting me confused. LOL
GFS kinda likes it I guess...who knows. Unlikely, but interesting.

Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Does the link work for you, IE wont display for me.


Link

IE tried to stop the pop up, had to tell it every thing was okay. Back to Firefox.

Quoting Xyrus2000:


We're pretty much at max extent. And even if it did finally freeze it would basically be just slush at this point.

There isn't much multi-year ice left in the arctic, and what's left is getting thin. A record minimum for extent and volume seems like a distinct possibility this year.


I lived in Greenland a while back. Was there once last year. The retreating of the glaciers is phenomenal. One has to actually see it to appreciate it.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Is that your EKG?
Quoting Levi32:
GFS kinda likes it I guess...who knows. Unlikely, but interesting.



I see you have everything covered from A to Z.
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Woohoo, there ya go EYES.
Quoting Grothar:


Is that your EKG?


LOLOL....probably looks worse than that ~~~~~~;]
Quoting Skyepony:


Link

IE tried to stop the pop up, had to tell it every thing was okay. Back to Firefox.



Thanks for your help, Skye.....always appreciate help:)
Quoting Grothar:


I see you have everything covered from A to Z.


Just randomly glancing around the globe. There's almost nothing going on of particular interest right now. Pretty boring.
Quoting Levi32:


Just randomly glancing around the globe. There's almost nothing going on of particular interest right now. Pretty boring.


They are not unheard of.

Quoting Skyepony:
You can also highlight the HTML for an image, click link & embed your link with the image.


i.e., paste the image location URL over the word 'Link' in the html for the link itself. Cool!
This one surprised everybody. I was flying in from Germany.

Our world is amazing, we are all miracles, life is

our world is in a crisis

we gotta make this better folks

how we going to do it?
European? *shrug*

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


Wiseguy!
Quoting Levi32:
European? *shrug*



Are you calling me a European? LOL
Here is one 168 out.

Quoting Grothar:


Are you calling me a European? LOL


Well, they do live longer than Americans....
Quoting Levi32:


Well, they do live longer than Americans....


So that is why I have lasted so long. LOL Good to know.
Quoting DontAnnoyMe:


Woohoo, there ya go EYES.


Thank YOU !! I've posted my very first visual....didnt take but a few weeks....lol
Hey Grothar, did you happen to know the missing FBI agent from your area that was found to still be alive in Iran?
Quoting weatherboy1992:
Disease is the natural order of things. Why not forgo antibiotics and vaccination and let nature take it's course?



LOL so true.

The scary thing is, some people actually believe we should do away modern medical advances and "let nature take its course".

How disgusting.
Question for WunderBloggers:Is 2003 a good analog year for 2011???
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
Question for WunderBloggers:Is 2003 a good analog year for 2011???


Not really.
And the poll:When we'll see the first tropical storm in 2011(in atlantic basin of course:) )
A-April
B-1 to 15 May
C-16 to 31 May
D-1 to 15 June
E-16 to 30 June
F-1 to 15 July
G-16 to 30 July
H-1 August or after.
My bet:C
Quoting Levi32:


Not really.

Why?
PS.I'm writing despite I'm on the chemistry lesson in school!
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:

Why?
PS.I'm writing despite I'm on the chemistry lesson in school!


The atmosphere had just made the switch from El Nino (2002) to a warm neutral, for one thing. We have nothing like that this year.
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
And the poll:When we'll see the first tropical storm in 2011(in atlantic basin of course:) )
A-April
B-1 to 15 May
C-16 to 31 May
D-1 to 15 June
E-16 to 30 June
F-1 to 15 July
G-16 to 30 July
H-1 August or after.
My bet:C


D
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:

Why?
PS.I'm writing despite I'm on the chemistry lesson in school!


Yeah this is basically the main reason.

Quoting KoritheMan:


The atmosphere had just made the switch from El Nino (2002) to a warm neutral, for one thing. We have nothing like that this year.
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
And the poll:When we'll see the first tropical storm in 2011(in atlantic basin of course:) )
A-April
B-1 to 15 May
C-16 to 31 May
D-1 to 15 June
E-16 to 30 June
F-1 to 15 July
G-16 to 30 July
H-1 August or after.
My bet:C


E, for now.
Quoting Levi32:


Yeah this is basically the main reason.


aha.And now Levi,answer the poll,ok? I feel I'm in love with this season:P
And next question:I know it's to early to give any prediction,but basing on actual knowledge,what's your TS-H-MH prediction???
Like:13-8-3 or 24-14-8,yes?And maybe 41-25-15?
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
And next question:I know it's to early to give any prediction,but basing on actual knowledge,what's your TS-H-MH prediction???


15/8/4. I'm thinking we'll see a lot more early season activity this year, but late season activity might slacken a bit due to the possibility of a developing El Nino.

If El Nino shows no apparent signs of development, however, these numbers will need to be adjusted upward.
Quoting KoritheMan:


15/8/4. I'm thinking we'll see a lot more early season activity this year, but late season activity might slacken a bit due to the possibility of a developing El Nino.

If El Nino shows no apparent signs of development, however, these numbers will need to be adjusted upward.

I'll put the odds higher,at hmmm...18-11-4.I don't think El nino will develop by summer(maybe in late fall),so storms won't be killed by shear like in 2009(first season I watched).SSTs will be also very warm.As you say we'll probably see the hyperactive beginning.But they're still 3 months to 1 June,so as I say:It's to early to give accurate predictions.
At weekend I'll try to put a more detailed discussion about 2011 AHS.
Anyone,what you think about my english skills?(I'm a Pole,so english isn't my native language and i wanna know)
How to change my avatar???
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Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
Like:13-8-3 or 24-14-8,yes?And maybe 41-25-15?


someone- please take away his coffee, redbull, sniff'ms, and every other energizer he has coursing thru his system.

Like a bull in a china shop!!
aquak9,

Have you seen any entries from IKE lately? Did he decide to take a break from WU?
Good Morning All, NRT. I haven't seen Ike in weeks on here. 53 in wcfl this am
Reply post 765. Ike is going through some difficult times want post on the blog why out of respect.Ike is a fine man and maybe you should email him and if he chooses to he will let you know.I thank Ike is one of the best bloggers on here, AND HAS FOR A LONG TIME.He never brags or ridicules anyone.He is not out to be a blog glory hound like some.He doesnt come on just to make corny jokes ,make fun of the southern language by constantly mispelling or quoting you tube nonsense.Ike like a lot of the old bloggers is just fed up with the sarcasm, ridicule,and absolute nonsense that has came to this blog.Further more while I honestly admit I have my doubts about the GW theories contrary to belief it is about weather.Last time I checked all these posts from you tube music videos, movies, and other nonsense is not weather related.And a last thought: with hurricane season coming up and a lot of us not having the time to sit behind a computer blog all day due to we have jobs and resposibilties, and have to get up at early hours.Please lets try to be respectful of others and not have a couple people who stay on here 24-7 not monopolize the blog. And please reduce the constant repetitive paste of graphs charts.Post the website and we can go from there.I think this is a lot of what Ike would like to say and a lot of others who have left. Aquak if you are around good morning and God Bless.
A setback for climate research:

NASA science satellite lost in Taurus launch failure

"The protective nose cone of an Orbital Sciences Corp. Taurus XL rocket carrying NASA's Glory environmental research satellite apparently failed to separate after launch Friday, preventing the spacecraft from achieving orbit in a $424 million failure. It was the second nose cone failure in a row for a Taurus XL rocket following the 2009 loss of another environmental satellite.

"The Glory mission got underway at 2:09:43 a.m. local time (5:09:43 a.m. EST) with a sky-lighting launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. The rocket's first three solid-fuel stages ignited as planned, but the nose cone fairing did not separate as required two minutes and 58 seconds after liftoff."

Details...
Looks like the Northeast's turn now:

HPC Days 1-3:

2011 2 majors 11 storms plus two td's for some reason this yr they have a hard time spinning up. there will be a couple really bad floods due to stalled out troughs. unfornately thats all is can get without spotting her another 20$ "cystal balls are not cheap you know"
Numerous Flash Flood Watches, Flood Watches, and Flood Warnings out for much of the lower and upper Ohio Valley stretching into the part of the Northeast.


Quoting Neapolitan:
A setback for climate research:

NASA science satellite lost in Taurus launch failure

"The protective nose cone of an Orbital Sciences Corp. Taurus XL rocket carrying NASA's Glory environmental research satellite apparently failed to separate after launch Friday, preventing the spacecraft from achieving orbit in a $424 million failure. It was the second nose cone failure in a row for a Taurus XL rocket following the 2009 loss of another environmental satellite.

"The Glory mission got underway at 2:09:43 a.m. local time (5:09:43 a.m. EST) with a sky-lighting launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. The rocket's first three solid-fuel stages ignited as planned, but the nose cone fairing did not separate as required two minutes and 58 seconds after liftoff."

Details...
More wasteful spending by the US government, what a disaster that is, $424 million down the drain....and we wonder why space programs get cut.
Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
Reply post 765. Ike is going through some difficult times want post on the blog why out of respect.Ike is a fine man and maybe you should email him and if he chooses to he will let you know.I thank Ike is one of the best bloggers on here, AND HAS FOR A LONG TIME.He never brags or ridicules anyone.He is not out to be a blog glory hound like some.He doesnt come on just to make corny jokes ,make fun of the southern language by constantly mispelling or quoting you tube nonsense.Ike like a lot of the old bloggers is just fed up with the sarcasm, ridicule,and absolute nonsense that has came to this blog.Further more while I honestly admit I have my doubts about the GW theories contrary to belief it is about weather.Last time I checked all these posts from you tube music videos, movies, and other nonsense is not weather related.And a last thought: with hurricane season coming up and a lot of us not having the time to sit behind a computer blog all day due to we have jobs and resposibilties, and have to get up at early hours.Please lets try to be respectful of others and not have a couple people who stay on here 24-7 not monopolize the blog. And please reduce the constant repetitive paste of graphs charts.Post the website and we can go from there.I think this is a lot of what Ike would like to say and a lot of others who have left. Aquak if you are around good morning and God Bless.

Best comment +1000000000000000
Quoting aquak9:


someone- please take away his coffee, redbull, sniff'ms, and every other energizer he has coursing thru his system.

Like a bull in a china shop!!

This extreme prediction was only ironical.It's rather impossible to have 41 tropical storms in year.But 18-11-4 seems reasonable for 2011.
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
Anyone,what you think about my english skills?(I'm a Pole,so english isn't my native language and i wanna know)
You have the slang down alright:)
FLOOD WATCH
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PADUCAH KY
322 AM CST FRI MAR 4 2011

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH
SATURDAY MORNING...

THE FLASH FLOOD WATCH CONTINUES FOR

* SOUTHEAST MISSOURI...SOUTHERN ILLINOIS...SOUTHWEST INDIANA AND
WESTERN KENTUCKY.

* FROM THIS 6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH NOON SATURDAY

* 1 TO 2 INCHES OF RAIN IS EXPECTED THROUGH MIDDAY SATURDAY. THE
HEAVIEST RAIN IS FORECAST TO OCCUR TONIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY
MORNING. ISOLATED AMOUNTS IN THE 2 TO 3 INCH RANGE CANNOT BE
RULED OUT.

* WITH SOIL CONDITIONS STILL QUITE MOIST FROM RECENT RAIN
EVENTS...IT WILL NOT TAKE LONG FOR ANY HEAVY RAINS TO RESULT
IN A RUNOFF SITUATION. CREEKS AND STREAMS COULD RISE QUICKLY
AND ROADWAYS MAY BECOME FLOODED. IN ADDITION...THIS RAINFALL
WILL EXACERBATE THE ONGOING RIVER FLOODING..ESPECIALLY IN THE
OHIO RIVER VALLEY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FLASH FLOOD WATCH MEANS THAT CONDITIONS MAY DEVELOP THAT LEAD
TO FLASH FLOODING. FLASH FLOODING IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

YOU SHOULD MONITOR LATER FORECASTS AND BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION
SHOULD FLASH FLOOD WARNINGS BE ISSUED.

&&

$$
Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
Reply post 765. Ike is going through some difficult times want post on the blog why out of respect.Ike is a fine man and maybe you should email him and if he chooses to he will let you know.I thank Ike is one of the best bloggers on here, AND HAS FOR A LONG TIME.He never brags or ridicules anyone.He is not out to be a blog glory hound like some.He doesnt come on just to make corny jokes ,make fun of the southern language by constantly mispelling or quoting you tube nonsense.Ike like a lot of the old bloggers is just fed up with the sarcasm, ridicule,and absolute nonsense that has came to this blog.Further more while I honestly admit I have my doubts about the GW theories contrary to belief it is about weather.Last time I checked all these posts from you tube music videos, movies, and other nonsense is not weather related.And a last thought: with hurricane season coming up and a lot of us not having the time to sit behind a computer blog all day due to we have jobs and resposibilties, and have to get up at early hours.Please lets try to be respectful of others and not have a couple people who stay on here 24-7 not monopolize the blog. And please reduce the constant repetitive paste of graphs charts.Post the website and we can go from there.I think this is a lot of what Ike would like to say and a lot of others who have left. Aquak if you are around good morning and God Bless.

IKE is a great blogger. Miss having him around. He's very smart and insightful.
Quoting kwgirl:
You have the slang down alright:)

Nice to hear that:) Speaking english is easy:-)
What about weather in Wroclaw,my native city-50 degrees and sunny sky.
Quoting HIPPOCRITT:

More wasteful spending by the US government, what a disaster that is, $424 million down the drain....and we wonder why space programs get cut.

Scientific research? Wasteful? The way this American sees it, if Big Oil can reap billions of dollars per year in direct subsidies--often while paying zero dollars in corporate taxes--I don't mind a fraction of that amount being used to find out how we're messing with the environment. That $424 million works out to less than 4/10ths of a penny a day for every person in this country. That's hardly an onerous burden for something so important, is it?

P.S. -- The spacecraft was insured.
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
What about weather in Wroclaw,my native city-50 degrees and sunny sky.

I'll take that. For this time of year, that's rather balmy, no? And, is Wroclaw anywhere near Warsaw, the capital?
at the end of the run it appears the cold air is on its retreat north as spring pushes in

Quoting cat5hurricane:

I'll take that. For this time of year, that's rather balmy, no? And is Wroclaw near Warsaw, the capital?

For early march,it's rather warm.Wroclaw is 340 kilometers(215 miles) southwest of Warsaw.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
at the end of the run it appears the cold air is on its retreat north as spring pushes in


Keeper - I think you just made many very happy.
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:

Nice to hear that:) Speaking english is easy:-)

Really? Then I take it you haven't heard many speeches by certain U.S. politicians lately. ;-)

Looks like there's some possibly serious flooding about to start. Where we are now:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

This is for now through Thursday:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

And this is next week's happy news:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

(That's heavy snow for the Upper Midwest Tuesday and Wednesday, along with strong to severe storms, including heavy rain through the Mississippi River Valley and eastward on those same days.)
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:

For early march,it's rather warm.Wroclaw is 340 kilometers(215 miles) southwest of Warsaw.

Okay. That's not too far then.
When you want,you can call me PHM,ok?
I vote for C
Good point nea about the corporate companies getting tax breaks.I for one work for one that gets that kind of break.Now not defending them, I will say a lot of the tax breaks on the state and county level comes from the idea of having these large companies in thier area provides jobs, employs suppiers and helps local businesses.Example in our area is all the money chevron and ngss have put back in the schools and communities.They have paid for the building of new schools and school related activities .Youth sports complexes and more.Now while I feel they should pay thier fair share of taxes, thier departure would cost a lot of areas more harm than recieving just thier tax money.One other note.We live in a country that sends billions of dollars overseas to help other countries.Now that is the decent and moral thing to do.On the other hand how do you explain that to the the poverty stricken in this country who could use that money?How about the homeless that did not choose that way of life?How about the disabled vets living in the streets?Or the welfare dependents who really do want to work and have a job and future?Seems to me a lot of us that are not in these situations worry more about people abroad than our own american people.Lets go back back to the old WWII slogan of fight for America put America first.It worked for the greatest generation, look what they accomplished!have a great day.
Quoting Neapolitan:

Really? Then I take it you haven't heard many speeches by certain U.S. politicians lately. ;-)

Looks like there's some possibly serious flooding about to start. Where we are now:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

This is for now through Thursday:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

And this is next week's happy news:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

(That's heavy snow for the Upper Midwest Tuesday and Wednesday, along with strong to severe storms, including heavy rain through the Mississippi River Valley and eastward on those same days.)

Quoting PolishHurrMaster:
And the poll:When we'll see the first tropical storm in 2011(in atlantic basin of course:) )
A-April
B-1 to 15 May
C-16 to 31 May
D-1 to 15 June
E-16 to 30 June
F-1 to 15 July
G-16 to 30 July
H-1 August or after.
My bet:C

Right now; PHM, I'm going to go with E.
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Okay. That's not too far then.

But in Poland it can be really great distance.Polish weather is very changable,and when here is sunny,80 miles to the east can rain.
I remember on 15 Aug 2008,while on the northwest side of Poland was 53 degress,400 miles to the southeast was 92 degress.This is the day of the strongest tornado ever recorded in Poland,a EF-3 that strucked Częstochowa,a city 150 miles east of Wroclaw
Quoting Neapolitan:

Really? Then I take it you haven't heard many speeches by certain U.S. politicians lately. ;-)

Looks like there's some possibly serious flooding about to start. Where we are now:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

This is for now through Thursday:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

And this is next week's happy news:

Appropriate tropical weather-related image.

(That's heavy snow for the Upper Midwest Tuesday and Wednesday, along with strong to severe storms, including heavy rain through the Mississippi River Valley and eastward on those same days.)


Image if these systems were transversing through the Dakota's and Upper Midwest right now, it would be biblical, although it's only a matter of time before the storm track gets up there.
Quoting PolishHurrMaster:

But in Poland it can be really great distance.Polish weather is very changable,and when here is sunny,80 miles to the east can rain.
I remember on 15 Aug 2008,while on the northwest side of Poland was 53 degress,400 miles to the southeast was 92 degress.This is the day of the strongest tornado ever recorded in Poland,a EF-3 that strucked Cz%u0119stochowa,a city 150 miles east of Wroclaw

An EF-3. Was not aware of the great instability present to produce a tornado that strong around there. Nevertheless, severe weather season is right on our heels though. The clashing of the airmasses is only a whisper away.
Incoming showers for the Iron Horse fire..




As for the poll I'm leaning toward C. We are getting due for an early start. Probably not good for our numbers that the WPac has been so quiet.
Quoting SAINTHURRIFAN:
Good point nea about the corporate companies getting tax breaks.I for one work for one that gets that kind of break.Now not defending them, I will say a lot of the tax breaks on the state and county level comes from the idea of having these large companies in thier area provides jobs, employs suppiers and helps local businesses.Example in our area is all the money chevron and ngss have put back in the schools and communities.They have paid for the building of new schools and school related activities .Youth sports complexes and more.Now while I feel they should pay thier fair share of taxes, thier departure would cost a lot of areas more harm than recieving just thier tax money.One other note.We live in a country that sends billions of dollars overseas to help other countries.Now that is the decent and moral thing to do.On the other hand how do you explain that to the the poverty stricken in this country who could use that money?How about the homeless that did not choose that way of life?How about the disabled vets living in the streets?Or the welfare dependents who really do want to work and have a job and future?Seems to me a lot of us that are not in these situations worry more about people abroad than our own american people.Lets go back back to the old WWII slogan of fight for America put America first.It worked for the greatest generation, look what they accomplished!have a great day.

Very nicely put.
Quoting Skyepony:
Incoming showers for the Iron Horse fire..




As for the poll I'm leaning toward C. We are getting due for an early start. Probably not good for our numbers that the WPac has been so quiet.

Just what the doctor ordered...
Good morning/evening.

Nice post. Ike rocks.
Climate change science issues interest me, but I agree with the post completely.
Except that I like the animated weather map posts, and visualized climate graph posts. I don't object to following links though.

I hope we get the decaf tropical storm numbers.
Quoting biff4ugo:
Good morning/evening.

Nice post. Ike rocks.
Climate change science issues interest me, but I agree with the post completely.
Except that I like the animated weather map posts, and visualized climate graph posts. I don't object to following links though.

I hope we get the decaf tropical storm numbers.

LOL. Decaf for me too.