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Failure of Glory satellite a major loss for climate change science

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:47 PM GMT on March 30, 2011

As the Taurus XL rocket boosting the $424 million Glory climate change research satellite roared off the launch pad from California's Vandenberg Air Force Base just after 2am PDT on March 4, NASA scientists and engineers from the rocket's maker, Orbital Sciences Corporation, were optimistic. A similar Taurus XL rocket failed in February 2009, resulting in the loss of the $273 million Orbiting Carbon Observatory, which was designed to preform high-resolution measurements of emissions of carbon dioxide from Earth. The rocket's fairing, a nose cone designed to shield satellites as it traveled through Earth's atmosphere did not separate properly, dooming the Orbiting Carbon Observatory to a spot at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Engineers redesigned the rocket, which did several successful launches over the past two years. But the rocket failed again for Glory's launch, and now the satellite lies useless beneath the South Pacific Ocean.


Figure 1. Climate responds to changes in the sun's radiation, dust (aerosol) particles, reflectivity of the surface (albedo) due to changes in land use, and concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and halocarbons. Changes in any of these quantities are called "forcings", and can force the climate to be warmer (red bars) or cooler (blue bars.) The word "radiative" arises because these factors change the balance between incoming solar radiation and outgoing infrared radiation (heat) within Earth's atmosphere. Since 1750, the changes in radiative forcing as estimated by the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) show that human activities, primarily due to increases in CO2 and other heat-trapping gases, have forced the climate to a warmer state. This forcing is equivalent to 1.6 watts per square meter of extra energy arriving everywhere on Earth's surface. However, there is a large uncertainty (LOSU = Level Of Scientific Understanding) on how much particles in the atmosphere (aerosols) affect Earth's climate. The uncertainty bars for the direct effect of particles in the atmosphere (where they scatter away more sunlight) and the indirect effects (where they increase the amount of sunlight-reflecting clouds, by acting as nuclei that cloud drops can form around) are very large compared to the uncertainty bars for other forcings.

The loss of the Glory satellite is a particularly bitter blow, since the satellite was designed to study the greatest unknown in climate change science--the emissions, composition, and distribution of dust particles in the atmosphere. Particles in the atmosphere (called aerosols by scientists) come from a variety of human-caused and natural sources. Black soot from fires can act to warm the climate, particularly if these black particles fall on ice and snow. However, most particles emitted into the atmosphere reflect sunlight back into space, and thus cool the climate. As seen in Figure 1, both the direct effects of dust particles (where they scatter away more sunlight) and the indirect effects (where they increase the amount of sunlight-reflecting clouds, by acting as nuclei that cloud drops can form around) are poorly known. It was hoped that data from the Glory satellite could significantly reduce these uncertainties. There is no replacement mission for Glory scheduled, and Congress' current budget-cutting appetite makes it unlikely a replacement satellite will be funded anytime soon. A replacement mission for the failed Orbital Carbon Observatory is scheduled for February 2013, but that mission may be delayed, since is it being launched by the same type of rocket that failed in Glory's launch.

As Gavin Schmidt notes in a post over at realclimate.org on Glory's demise, working from space is hard, expensive, and risky. Rocket failures resulting in the loss of hugely expensive satellites are not uncommon, and it takes years to procure funding and build new satellites. But, there is no substitute for satellites; the global coverage and detail of data they provide cannot be matched by surface- or aircraft-based observations. We must continue to hurl them into space, or risk plotting our course blindly into the future with only a fuzzy idea of how our planet is changing.

I'll be back on Friday with an April Fool's Day post.

Jeff Masters

Climate Change

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Quoting Jax82:
Rain, Wind, OMG! ;)



Only if you could see the damage around then maybe you wouldn't be making jokes. Thousands of people around here wit no power right now many still from yesterday's storms as there are lots of trees on powerlines.
502. IKE
Quoting islander101010:
floridians hype this hype that just some needed rain maybe a twister or two but figure this you got a twister 100yrds wide it touches down for a second or two okay but you got 300 miles of shoreline. maybe some isolated damage. drought buster thankfully. save the hype for cape verde season
It is needed rain. I remember reading on this blog about 1-2 weeks ago and a lot of talk was about how dry it was in Florida.

Nobody needs severe weather, but, you take the good with the bad.

My rain total was 1.58 from this system.
Quoting RastaSteve:


Actually no and who is that guy that you reference. Anyways heavy rain and heavy lightning here in the Wekiva Springs area.


The game's over dude. We all know you're Jeff9641. And if you wanna know how bad the hurricanes of 2004 were, come down here, where we got hit directly by Frances and Jeanne, and you can talk to everyone. A thunderstorm doesn't compare to a hurricane.
Quoting RastaSteve:


Only if you could see the damage around then maybe you wouldn't be making jokes. Thousands of people around here wit no power right now many still from yesterday's storms as there are lots of trees on powerlines.

Morning, I have seen the damage. Its not only the east coast, Dade City got pounded. Trees down all over the place. I didn,t have it too bad.75 inches of needed rain.
Quoting severstorm:

Morning, I have seen the damage. Its not only the east coast, Dade City got pounded. Trees down all over the place. I didn,t have it too bad.75 inches of needed rain.


Yeah, lots of torrential rain here causing street flooding on the 408 and 441 here in Orlando. The morning commute is a mess. We do need the rain though I would agree to that.
Does anyone think all the action from Central Florida will spread down to South Florida today?
Incredible!Now in Wroclaw 72 degrees(is it March?),cold front in this night,tomorrow 60 degrees,on Saturday 70 degrees,and on Sunday incredible 80 degrees!But the next cold front is there,and on the second side of front will be only 55 degrees,so thunderstorms are probable,maybe heavy.And it's only the beginning of April!!!
Quoting hurricaneben:
Does anyone think all the action from Central Florida will spread down to South Florida today?


It will. We are under a tornado watch until 1 and that will likely be extended.
Quoting caneswatch:


The game's over dude. We all know you're Jeff9641. And if you wanna know how bad the hurricanes of 2004 were, come down here, where we got hit directly by Frances and Jeanne, and you can talk to everyone. A thunderstorm doesn't compare to a hurricane.


We had Charley, Frances, and Jeanne with Charley the worst as it passed right over Orlando with a 110 mph winds. I know what heavy wind damage is and what we got that yesterday I haven't seen since 04.
510. Jax82
We're not in the Tornado watch here in Jacksonville but I expect we could get some strong cells if some of them track farther north. There is a tornado warning west of Gainesville at the moment and thats at the northern edge of the watch area, and their moving Northeast.



Quoting hurricaneben:
Does anyone think all the action from Central Florida will spread down to South Florida today?


Yes later this afternoon like 4pm or 5pm maybe earlier.
Quoting caneswatch:


It will. We are under a tornado watch until 1 and that will likely be extended.


Yeah I knew about the watch, but TWC was only predicting 30% chance of isolated T-storms and 40-50% tonight, I thought it would be higher like at least 60% being that a tornado watch is in effect.
This is what went through my area as I was heading into work.

Thursday, March 31, 2011
Posted at 7:46 AM
Edited on: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:50 AM

Damaging winds spreading east toward the coast

Severe storms are racing east across portions of Lake, Seminole and Orange counties and will enter southern Volusia and northern Brevard counties. These storms likely contain damaging winds of 60 to 70 mph. Radar indicates rotation along the leading edge prompting a tornado warning. These cells will move rapidly east at 50 to 60 mph toward the coast. A tornado watch is in effect for all of east central Florida through 1 pm.

515. P451
Europe's Goce Satellite is one impressive earth mapping machine. You got to check this out.
Hook echo forming with this cell in northern Pinellas County. Should see tornado warning shortly as that cell moves toward you severstorm. Get ready buddy.
Tornado Watch
FLC015-017-027-049-053-055-057-071-075-081-101-10 3-105-115-119-
311700-
/O.NEW.KTBW.TO.A.0080.110331T1000Z-110331T1700Z/

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED TORNADO WATCH 80 IN
EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE FOLLOWING AREAS

IN FLORIDA THIS WATCH INCLUDES 15 COUNTIES

IN SOUTHWEST FLORIDA

CHARLOTTE LEE

IN WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA

CITRUS DESOTO HARDEE
HERNANDO HIGHLANDS HILLSBOROUGH
LEVY MANATEE PASCO
PINELLAS POLK SARASOTA
SUMTER

THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...ARCADIA...AVON PARK...BRADENTON...
BRANDON...BROOKSVILLE...BUSHNELL...CAPE CORAL...CEDAR KEY...
CHIEFLAND...CLEARWATER...CRYSTAL RIVER...FORT MYERS...INVERNESS...
LAKELAND...NEW PORT RICHEY...PORT CHARLOTTE...PUNTA GORDA...
SARASOTA...SEBRING...SPRING HILL...ST. PETERSBURG...TAMPA...
THE VILLAGES...VENICE...WAUCHULA...WINTER HAVEN AND ZEPHYRHILLS.
There maybe a tornado forming near Jedkins and moving just north of Tampa over the next 20 minutes.
Quoting RastaSteve:


We had Charley, Frances, and Jeanne with Charley the worst as it passed right over Orlando with a 110 mph winds. I know what heavy wind damage is and what we got that yesterday I haven't seen since 04.


First off, Charley was no where near major hurricane status when he hit you. He was at Category 1 status with winds of 85 mph.

Second off, don't over-exagerate a wind storm. Ike's right, everyone can handle a little windstorm, like we do down here. Patio umbrellas get knocked down, pots fall and break, but it's nothing we can't handle
Quoting hurricaneben:


Yeah I knew about the watch, but TWC was only predicting 30% chance of isolated T-storms and 40-50% tonight, I thought it would be higher like at least 60% being that a tornado watch is in effect.


NWS is giving us 60%, WPTV is on top of it.
Quoting hurricaneben:


Yeah I knew about the watch, but TWC was only predicting 30% chance of isolated T-storms and 40-50% tonight, I thought it would be higher like at least 60% being that a tornado watch is in effect.

Chance of rain is just that, the chance a certain spot on the ground will get rain in a specified period. If atmospheric conditions are right, it is very possible to have a low chance of rain (20-30%), but have a tornado or severe thunderstorm watch. A severe thunderstorm or tornado watch only states that conditions are right for a severe t-storm or tornado.

For example, if CAPE is very high, there is plenty of shear in the atmosphere, with lots of precipitable water, but no forcing mechanism, I could easily see a 30% chance of rain, and a watch of some kind. (actually, in that kind of situation, the general area is likely to get a nasty thunderstorm... it just may be isolated)
Quoting caneswatch:


First off, Charley was no where near major hurricane status when he hit you. He was at Category 1 status with winds of 85 mph.

Second off, don't over-exagerate a wind storm. Ike's right, everyone can handle a little windstorm, like we do down here. Patio umbrellas get knocked down, pots fall and break, but it's nothing we can't handle


Roofs blown off houses in College Park in my frineds neighborhood, some shingles were even blown off my roof. Man it was crazy and the place is still a mess after yesterday as trees are down all over some on cars, houses, ect. Look at Wesh.com, wftv.com, wkmg.com. Oh by the way OIA had 105 mph wind gust from Charley I was at UCF when it hit and it looked like a tornado went thru. Look it up again if you don't believe me. Man the kids on here!
A tornado is on the ground in Tampa near Wesley Chapel.........TAKE COVER NOW
I was right!

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
836 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

FLC057-101-103-311315-
/O.CON.KTBW.TO.W.0019.000000T0000Z-110331T1315Z/
PINELLAS FL-HILLSBOROUGH FL-PASCO FL-
836 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 915 AM EDT FOR PASCO...
NORTHWESTERN HILLSBOROUGH AND NORTHERN PINELLAS COUNTIES...

AT 835 AM EDT...THE PUBLIC REPORTED A TORNADO. LOCATED NEAR
ODESSA...OR 8 MILES EAST OF HOLIDAY...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.

THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
HOLIDAY.
ODESSA.
MOON LAKE ESTATES.
LUTZ.
LAND O` LAKES.
WESLEY CHAPEL.

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
832 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0823 AM FUNNEL CLOUD KENNEDY SPACE CENTER 28.52N 80.68W
03/31/2011 BREVARD FL OTHER FEDERAL

NASA TEST DIRECTOR OBSERVED FUNNEL CLOUD NW OF LAUNCH PAD
39A.


&&

$$

JRC
Severestorm tornado heading your way! It's on the ground and moving at 35mph. What a day setting up for C FL.
tornado confirmd on the ground nw of tpa proper in lutz, fl take cover this is the real thing!!!
TampaSpin that storm looked like it went over you. Did you get any damage from it?
Quoting caneswatch:


First off, Charley was no where near major hurricane status when he hit you. He was at Category 1 status with winds of 85 mph.

Second off, don't over-exagerate a wind storm. Ike's right, everyone can handle a little windstorm, like we do down here. Patio umbrellas get knocked down, pots fall and break, but it's nothing we can't handle

+1.

RastaSteve (Jeff9461), a storm has some wind, some heavy rains. whoopee. Both here in TX, and up where I was born (northeastern Colorado), we get very nasty storms, and 99.9% of us don't freak out and start comparing thunderstorms to hurricanes. After living through 22 years of SE TX thunderstorms, 8 years of northeastern Colorado storms, and Hurricane Ike, I can confidently say there is NO comparison.

I've been within half a mile of a tornado. I've seen straight-line winds in a t-storm in excess of 65mph (as recorded at a PWS 1/2 a mile away). I've been in a storm that had rainfall rates in excess of 3" per hour. They ALL pale to the fury of a hurricane, in both intensity, destruction, and duration.

I normally don't call people out straight up, but I'm going to make an exception... You have a terrible rep among many of us "regulars" on the blog - especially those of us who are not weather rubes. Your hype, freak-out sessions, and wishcasting have grown very tiresome, losing all beneficial and entertaining attributes. There may be some bloggers here who like your posts, but by and large, for the love of all that is holy... CHILL OUT.

I'm sure you are a wonderful person, and a wonderful husband to your wife. But as a weather blogger, "wonderful" is not exactly a term I would use. Taking your posts down a few notches would be great, both for the betterment of Dr. M's blog, and also for your blood pressure.
531. P451
Amazing how nice the blog looks just by placing one single user name on your ignore list. The only trouble is those who decide to quote that user.
Quoting stillwaiting:
tornado confirmd on the ground nw of tpa proper in lutz, fl take cover this is the real thing!!!


Hey man, a rotating supercell is about 60 miles offshore of Tampa and moving ENE. That one as well looks dangerous.
this is real the thing the lady on chanel 8 (wx forecaster)sounds like she s gonna cry,this is going to be a bad day for fl,worst in years for sereve wx imo
Lotta trees in houses yesterday. Lot still without power..

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. -- Firefighters said a generator ignited a fire that forced a Seminole County couple out of their home early Thursday. There is video, the house is gone.
Quoting P451:
Amazing how nice the blog looks just by placing one single user name on your ignore list. The only trouble is those who decide to quote that user.

Yep. I agree. Thats why I rarely quote a certain person.
Quoting RastaSteve:


Hey man, a rotating supercell is about 60 miles offshore of Tampa and moving ENE. That one as well looks dangerous.
...the nws mentioned the possiblity of 2 inch hail for this t-watch area,i dont think ive ever seen that before!!!
Quoting Skyepony:
Lotta trees in houses yesterday. Lot still without power..

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. -- Firefighters said a generator ignited a fire that forced a Seminole County couple out of their home early Thursday. There is video, the house is gone.


Thanks Skye! To be busy storm tracking to post pics but will do so later.
Small chunk of the Daily GOM Warmth Top 5. The actual Top 5 will be around 4 PM today, so if you want to see the Top 5, check back in then...
2011 has seriously tooken over the Top 5, and is really cranked up in the past 4 days.
GOM:


Atlantic:

So even if the map shows that it's not the warmest, It definetly can get a tropical storm to spark up in the Gulf, unlike any other season right now.
should probably go with a pds today with all the populated areas the willbe effected from severe wx....long track t-nado now on the ground north of tpa near lutz
Quoting RastaSteve:
TampaSpin that storm looked like it went over you. Did you get any damage from it?



No nothing here yet its just north of where i live but, word is parts of Tampa is getting hit with lots of damage right now..........OMG this is really bad.
Been very luck here in Oldsmar. We've had some nice rain but all the severe stuff (including Monday) has been just a few miles to our north.
Quoting RastaSteve:


Roofs blown off houses in College Park in my frineds neighborhood, some shingles were even blown off my roof. Man it was crazy and the place is still a mess after yesterday as trees are down all over some on cars, houses, ect. Look at Wesh.com, wftv.com, wkmg.com. Oh by the way OIA had 105 mph wind gust from Charley I was at UCF when it hit and it looked like a tornado went thru. Look it up again if you don't believe me. Man the kids on here!


Wind gust, not sustained.

And don't call me a kid, especially when i'm not one, Jeff
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Small chunk of the Daily GOM Warmth Top 5. The actual Top 5 will be around 4 PM today, so if you want to see the Top 5, check back in then...
2011 has seriously tooken over the Top 5, and is really cranked up in the past 4 days.
GOM:


Atlantic:

So even if the map shows that it's not the warmest, It definetly can get a tropical storm to spark up in the Gulf, unlike any other season right now.

Most of the waters heating up so far are shallow, and the loop current. That said, the loop current being so toasty so early is a bit concerning, as is the lack of deep-water chill (temps <23C) that is usually evident in the western GOM.

That said, temps are only in the 26-27C range for the most part, so I'm not sounding any alarm bells (by any means), but the GOM definitely has my attention.
Tampa/ST. Pete and Sarasota is in serious trouble ......this is as severe as it can get for Tornados!
Rasta~ Upload them to WUphotos when you get a chance.

I added the link to WFTV news of it all. Video is worth the watch if you hadn't seen it. Can't believe those people walked away from that camper.
That tornado is now 8 miles sw of z-hills moving at 60 mph. take cover


The SSTs over the former Chile earthquake zone are surprisingly cold. They are currently around 11C, whereas this time last year they were closer to 14. Also, temperatures SW of Tokyo in front of the Kuroshio Current, which has been transporting radiation eastward have been cool as well.
Wind gusts are always more than sustained winds, and as a general rule are 25% faster than sustained winds. And as a note, for decently built structures (like those in most of FL), sustained winds will do significantly more damage in the end.

Its like the difference between just a 1-second blast from a fire hose, and a 5-minute soaking from the same fire hose. The soaking will reveal any weaknesses in the structure, due to the constant and consistent pressure.
Quoting AstroHurricane001:


The SSTs over the former Chile earthquake zone are surprisingly cold. They are currently around 11C, whereas this time last year they were closer to 14. Also, temperatures SW of Tokyo in front of the Kuroshio Current, which has been transporting radiation eastward have been cool as well.

Temps off the coast of Chile don't look seriously cold (compared to normal).

The Kuroshio current, for those who aren't familiar with it, is the Pacific's equivalent of the Gulf Stream.
550. Jax82
Tornado spotted on the ground.

912 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 930 AM EDT FOR
SOUTHEASTERN PASCO...NORTHEASTERN HILLSBOROUGH AND NORTHWESTERN POLK
COUNTIES...

AT 909 AM EDT...A TORNADO IS ON THE GROUND. THE TORNADO IS LOCATED
NEAR KATHLEEN...OR 9 MILES SOUTHEAST OF ZEPHYRHILLS...MOVING EAST AT
60 MPH.

THE PUBLIC OBSERVED A TORNADO ON THE GROUND NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF
BRUCE B. DOWNS AND INTERSTATE 275 AROUND 9 AM.

THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
KATHLEEN.
GIBSONIA.
POLK CITY.

551. Jax82
Confirmed Tornado on the ground at Kathleen and heading toward POLK CITY Florida........CONFIRMED!
reports coming in of widespread damage and reprts of hearing the"frieghttrain" sound,as i stated yesterday worst day for severe wx in central fl in years, im a rained spotter and will be on the roof of a 6 story parking garage taking pics when these storms roll off the gom later,off all day!!!
There is so much more coming off the GOM heading toward Florida it is unreal....The Tampa/St. Pete and Central Florida is under the Gun. Sarasota/Bradenton area you are in line as well.
555. Jax82
Quoting stillwaiting:
reports coming in of widespread damage and reprts of hearing the"frieghttrain" sound,as i stated yesterday worst day for severe wx in central fl in years, im a rained spotter and will be on the roof of a 6 story parking garage taking pics when these storms roll off the gom later,off all day!!!


Be safe! The tornado cell is heading towards Orlando, and will cross over I-4 in the next 20 minutes.
0500 AM TSTM WND GST 6 SW ASTOR 29.09N 81.60W
03/30/2011 M63 MPH LAKE FL PARK/FOREST SRVC

POWER LINES AND TREES DOWN IN OCALA NATIONAL FOREST.
HELICOPTER PIVOTED ON ITS PAD.

There is another Storm feature off Shore of Tampa Bay, that is 50miles off shore that will be on Shore in about 1 hour that is really severe looking currently with lots of Spin within it. Actually looks worse than this current one........GEESH!
Quoting TampaSpin:
There is another Storm feature off Shore of Tampa Bay, that is 50miles off shore that will be on Shore in about 1 hour that is really severe looking currently with lots of Spin within it. Actually looks worse than this current one........GEESH!


Yikes. It's looking like the watch down here is gonna be extended.
Quoting TampaSpin:
There is another Storm feature off Shore of Tampa Bay, that is 50miles off shore that will be on Shore in about 1 hour that is really severe looking currently with lots of Spin within it. Actually looks worse than this current one........GEESH!

You're talking about the one almost due west from Tampa, with the 42k top?

One thing I've noticed about today's storms is that they are much "taller" than the ones yesterday. The ones yesterday had echo tops around 26k-30k. Today's storms are generally between 35k and 43k.
Fl. Building Code (at least for new construction, can't say much for 50+ years ago as I do not have that code on my desk) is pretty substantial. It is designed (residential) 130 mph 3 second gust or 110 sustained. I.E. 60 mph is nothing for any decent RESIDENTIAL structure.
This is some serious thunderstorm activity, and tornado areas should be on watch, but it's nothing to freak out over.
That being said, I return to lurking.
Unreal what has been happening here and for people to say these are ordinary storms is false. I haven't this much damage and this many reports of severe wx since the Superstorm of 1993.
Quoting RastaSteve:

I don't think anyone ever said these are "ordinary storms". What many are taking issue with is the comparison between these storms and hurricanes.
Quoting CatfishJones:
Fl. Building Code (at least for new construction, can't say much for 50+ years ago as I do not have that code on my desk) is pretty substantial. It is designed (residential) 130 mph 3 second gust or 110 sustained. I.E. 60 mph is nothing for any decent RESIDENTIAL structure.
This is some serious thunderstorm activity, and tornado areas should be on watch, but it's nothing to freak out over.
That being said, I return to lurking.

Exactly.
OMG guys the weather here in Naples will be warm today!!!!! Party cloudy and 72 already!! Guys this will be a sunny day here!! The channel two meteorologist just said we could see highs in the mid 80s here!!!!!! Be prepared!!! If your goinoutside find shade immeidately or at some point!!!!!!! YOU MAY GET A SUNBURN WITH JUST SIX STRAIGHT HOURS OF DIRECT SUN!! This may be the sunniest day since yesterday; BE SAFE!!

;-)

Okay, just kidding. Seriously, though, while you should watch the radar, watch the skies, listen to NOAA, and always be cautious when severe weather threatens, there's no need to panic or overstate the situation. At worst, you can cause unnecessary worry and confusion; at best you may lose all credibility. Just sayin'...
Quoting jeffs713:

I don't think anyone ever said these are "ordinary storms". What many are taking issue with is the comparison between these storms and hurricanes.


Didn't realize that sorry. I know some maybe not you were thinking what was going on here was no big deal just thunder and rain.
With all this hype in Florida you'd think it's causing oil prices to spike


WTI Crude Oil
$106.54 ▲2.27
Quoting Neapolitan:
OMG guys the weather here in Naples will be warm today!!!!! Party cloudy and 72 already!! Guys this will be a sunny day here!! The channel two meteorologist just said we could see highs in the mid 80s here!!!!!! Be prepared!!! If your goinoutside find shade immeidately or at some point!!!!!!! YOU MAY GET A SUNBURN WITH JUST SIX STRAIGHT HOURS OF DIRECT SUN!! This may be the sunniest day since yesterday; BE SAFE!!

;-)

Okay, just kidding. Seriously, though, while you should watch the radar, watch the skies, listen to NOAA, and always be cautious when severe weather threatens, there's no need to panic or overstate the situation. At worst, you can cause unnecessary worry and confusion; at best you may lose all credibility. Just sayin'...
OMG! I forgot my sunscreen! I'm going to melt!!

+1 to Nea.
Quoting Neapolitan:
OMG guys the weather here in Naples will be warm today!!!!! Party cloudy and 72 already!! Guys this will be a sunny day here!! The channel two meteorologist just said we could see highs in the mid 80s here!!!!!! Be prepared!!! If your goinoutside find shade immeidately or at some point!!!!!!! YOU MAY GET A SUNBURN WITH JUST SIX STRAIGHT HOURS OF DIRECT SUN!! This may be the sunniest day since yesterday; BE SAFE!!

;-)

Okay, just kidding. Seriously, though, while you should watch the radar, watch the skies, listen to NOAA, and always be cautious when severe weather threatens, there's no need to panic or overstate the situation. At worst, you can cause unnecessary worry and confusion; at best you may lose all credibility. Just sayin'...

LMAO. Well stated.
Another Tornado Warning near Brooksville, Bushnell, Webster....Florida.........take cover now.
565. While these storms are severe, and significant, they aren't 100-year storms or anything like that. I've seen and heard of worse, but I also have seen and heard of many weaker storms. I think many people are just going off about the hype.
Let the Drama Begin! Sometimes the people complaining about the idiots are worse than the idiots. And think, it's not even Hurricane season yet.
Quoting RitaEvac:
With all this hype in Florida you'd think it's causing oil prices to spike


WTI Crude Oil
$106.54 %u25B22.27

I think oil prices are spiking because it is a day that ends in "y". I work in the oil industry, as do several of my friends, and all of believe that the price of oil has nothing to do with supply or demand, but rather has everything to do with emotion, speculators, and unmitigated greed.

Anyone selling a bicycle?
Quoting DaytonaBeachWatcher:
Let the Drama Begin! Sometimes the people complaining about the idiots are worse than the idiots. And think, it's not evern Hurricane season yet.

Heh. In hurricane season, the complaints just get drowned out in the idiot-spam.

This time of year, they actually get read.
Quoting jeffs713:

I think oil prices are spiking because it is a day that ends in "y". I work in the oil industry, as do several of my friends, and all of believe that the price of oil has nothing to do with supply or demand, but rather has everything to do with emotion, speculators, and unmitigated greed.

Anyone selling a bicycle?

So am I, who you with?
supercells will be prevalent,wait until about noon all hecks going to break loose over swfl,rock'n'roll,stay safe locked and loaded here in sarasota!!
576. Jax82
Quoting jeffs713:

I think oil prices are spiking because it is a day that ends in "y". I work in the oil industry, as do several of my friends, and all of believe that the price of oil has nothing to do with supply or demand, but rather has everything to do with emotion, speculators, and unmitigated greed.

Anyone selling a bicycle?


Yeah, and it will hit our economy soon if it keeps going up. I put $30 in my tank yesterday and got 8 gallons, or a half a tank. Sweet.
Quoting caneswatch:


Yikes. It's looking like the watch down here is gonna be extended.


Extended as in area or extended as in time? Please be specific.
578. Jax82
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
944 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL SUMTER COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
SOUTHEASTERN CITRUS COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
HERNANDO COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 1015 AM EDT

* AT 941 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
TORNADO NEAR WEEKI WACHEE...OR NEAR SPRING HILL...MOVING EAST AT 45
MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
WEEKI WACHEE.
BROOKSVILLE.
BUSHNELL.

Quoting Grothar:


Extended as in area or extended as in time? Please be specific.

Mostly time, probably. Might need flood watches if these storms continue to train across the same area.
Quoting Neapolitan:
OMG guys the weather here in Naples will be warm today!!!!! Party cloudy and 72 already!! Guys this will be a sunny day here!! The channel two meteorologist just said we could see highs in the mid 80s here!!!!!! Be prepared!!! If your goinoutside find shade immeidately or at some point!!!!!!! YOU MAY GET A SUNBURN WITH JUST SIX STRAIGHT HOURS OF DIRECT SUN!! This may be the sunniest day since yesterday; BE SAFE!!

;-)

Okay, just kidding. Seriously, though, while you should watch the radar, watch the skies, listen to NOAA, and always be cautious when severe weather threatens, there's no need to panic or overstate the situation. At worst, you can cause unnecessary worry and confusion; at best you may lose all credibility. Just sayin'...


LOL Nea

+1 for you.
Quoting Grothar:


Extended as in area or extended as in time? Please be specific.


Time. Happy, you fool LOL?
Quoting caneswatch:


Time. Happy, you fool LOL?


Yes, now I can breathe a sigh of relief. LOL I thought I was going to have to put the shutters up and move my patio furntiture in.
Quoting Grothar:


Yes, now I can breathe a sigh of relief. LOL I thought I was going to have to put the shutters up and move my patio furntiture in.


You can wait another few months to do that if (In)Accuweather is going to be correct.
587. PTXer
Hope everyone stays safe down FLA way! There was some discussion on lightning earlier. Has anybody ever seen this:

Link

It is lightning filmed at ultra high speed (12,000 frames per second). Truly amazing.
The storms yesterday afternoon were amazing. The wind here in Altamonte Springs knocked down tons of limbs and branches, and I was without power for 13 hours. This squall-line was the first in a very long time (since the 90s?) to match the hype and actually deliver severe weather in my location. Also, the storm that moved through a couple hours ago must have easily had 50 mph gusts. Are we going to get a final squall line as this moves out in a few hours?
Vortex signature headed for south St. Pete. Anyone else in the area, keep safe.

EDIT: Nevermind, fizzled out. We (Pinellas Co. around Indian Rocks/ Madiera) are still under warning, though.
We are NOT over hyping this situation. Even the METS here in Central Florida said that yesterdays outbreak of severe weather was the worst severe weather outbreak since 1993. Get over yourselves, this is a very bad event here in Florida.
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
1037 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MELBOURNE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL LAKE COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...TAVARES...MOUNT PLYMOUTH...MOUNT
DORA...MASCOTTE...LISBON...LEESBURG...EUSTIS...CA SSIA...

NORTHERN ORANGE COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...ZELLWOOD...WINTER PARK...WINTER
GARDEN...PINE HILLS...OCOEE...MAITLAND...LOCKHART...LAKE
APOPKA...

SEMINOLE COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...WINTER SPRINGS...WEKIVA SPRINGS...
SANFORD...OVIEDO...LONGWOOD...LAKE MARY...LAKE JESSUP...

WESTERN VOLUSIA COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...OSTEEN...ORANGE CITY...LAKE MONROE...
LAKE HELEN...DELTONA...DE LAND...DELAND...

* UNTIL 1130 AM EDT.

* AT 1031 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 6 MILES WEST OF
HOWEY IN THE HILLS...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.







BARRE...FITCHBURG...CHESTERFIELD...BLANDFORD...AY ER...JAFFREY... KEENE...PETERBOROUGH...WEARE 413 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011 ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 AM EDT SATURDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAUNTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 AM EDT SATURDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * LOCATIONS...THE EAST SLOPES OF THE BERKSHIRES...NORTH CENTRAL MASSACHUSETTS...AS WELL AS WESTERN AND CENTRAL HILLSBOROUGH AND CHESHIRE COUNTIES IN SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE. * HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...6 TO 14 INCHES OF SNOW. * TIMING...SNOW IS CURRENTLY EXPECTED TO DEVELOP LATE TONIGHT AND CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY EVENING ACROSS THE AREA. * WINDS...NORTH 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH. * IMPACTS...HEAVY SNOW COULD LEAD TO TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES FOR THE FRIDAY MORNING COMMUTE AS UNTREATED SURFACES WILL BE SLIPPERY WITH POOR VISIBILITY POSSIBLE AT TIMES. THE SNOW COULD ALSO BE WET AND HEAVY...PRESENTING PROBLEMS FOR TREE BRANCHES AND POWER LINES...AS WELL AS SNOW REMOVAL. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER STORM WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN AN AVERAGE OF 6 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW IS EXPECTED IN A 12 HOUR PERIOD...OR FOR 8 OR MORE INCHES IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD. TRAVEL WILL BE SLOW AT BEST ON WELL TREATED SURFACES...AND QUITE DIFFICULT ON ANY UNPLOWED OR UNTREATED SURFACES.


Where's the heat?


Link


Sorry but over 70 reports of severe weather in Florida alone is not common AT ALL. This was not over hyped, this was a very dangerous day and will be remembered by many as the worst outbreak of severe weather in years.
Quoting reedzone:
We are NOT over hyping this situation. Even the METS here in Central Florida said that yesterdays outbreak of severe weather was the worst severe weather outbreak since 1993. Get over yourselves, this is a very bad event here in Florida.
This satellite picture looks almost identical to the one on June-23, 1995 when we had a flash flood and severe weather event described by the head of the Emergency Operations Center Wayne Sallade as a "once in a lifetime event" It pounded Desoto and Charlotte Counties mercilessly for ten hours, dumping almost 16 inches of rain in less than 9 hours. The only difference this system and the 1995 system is the current thunderstorms are training further north...
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
1037 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MELBOURNE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL LAKE COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...TAVARES...MOUNT PLYMOUTH...MOUNT
DORA...MASCOTTE...LISBON...LEESBURG...EUSTIS...CA SSIA...

NORTHERN ORANGE COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...ZELLWOOD...WINTER PARK...WINTER
GARDEN...PINE HILLS...OCOEE...MAITLAND...LOCKHART...LAKE
APOPKA...

SEMINOLE COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...WINTER SPRINGS...WEKIVA SPRINGS...
SANFORD...OVIEDO...LONGWOOD...LAKE MARY...LAKE JESSUP...

WESTERN VOLUSIA COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...OSTEEN...ORANGE CITY...LAKE MONROE...
LAKE HELEN...DELTONA...DE LAND...DELAND...

* UNTIL 1130 AM EDT.

* AT 1031 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 6 MILES WEST OF
HOWEY IN THE HILLS...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.



Been watching that cell, nrt.

It means business. Be careful anyone in it's path.

Quoting hydrus:
This satellite picture looks almost identical to the one on June-23, 1995 when we had a flash flood and severe weather event described by the head of the Emergency Operations Center Wayne Sallade as a "once in a lifetime event" I pounded Desoto and Charlotte Counties mercilessly for ten hours, dumping almost 16 inches of rain in less than 9 hours. The only difference this system and the 1995 system is the current thunderstorms are training further north...
Further North would mean more rain as it runs the length of the state?
Quoting reedzone:
We are NOT over hyping this situation. Even the METS here in Central Florida said that yesterdays outbreak of severe weather was the worst severe weather outbreak since 1993. Get over yourselves, this is a very bad event here in Florida.


If this was over them then it would be a different story REED as always is the case on here. Let them bash and be foolish. Anyway possible tornado heading in my direction here in Longwood.
Morning...

Boy this has turned out to be quite an active 2 days. I'm under a Tornado Warning (in Lake Apopka) so keeping a close eye to the WX outside. For now the storm has lost most of its punch, but still dangerous.
Mailman just came by, completely oblivious that we're under a Tornado Warning (Madiera/IRB/Seminole).
It was as bad as driving through a cat 2 on the way to work today. Less wind than a rainband, but more lightning.
Severe thunderstorm warning, tornado watch, etc.
Quoting WxLogic:
Morning...

Boy this has turned out to be quite an active 2 days. I'm under a Tornado Warning (in Lake Apopka) so keeping a close eye to the WX outside. For now the storm has lost most of its punch, but still dangerous.


That's me. This is absolutly amazing as I can't recall ever seeing wx this bad even during summertime thunderstorms. I also think this lightning is worse than in summer storms here. I've had 2.64" so far today and counting!
Quoting palmbaywhoo:

Further North would mean more rain as it runs the length of the state?
The problem is, that its not moving now( except for the training ). Once it starts moving, it should move with enough speed not to flood the southern part of the state...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR... CENTRAL PINELLAS COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 1130 AM EDT

* AT 1024 AM EDT... NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A TORNADO 26 MILES WEST OF INDIAN ROCKS BEACH... OR 30 MILES WEST OF SEMINOLE... MOVING EAST AT 35 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR... INDIAN ROCKS BEACH. SEMINOLE. CLEARWATER. PINELLAS PARK.

THIS INCLUDES INTERSTATE 275 BETWEEN EXITS 22 AND 31.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

REMEMBER... AS WATERSPOUTS MOVE ASHORE THEY BECOME TORNADOES AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

Quoting DestinJeff:
Man, still with the display issues here in IE. I don't quite understand what the difficulty is in getting a display that just works. It happens all the time, all over the 'nets.

That is because IE stinks.

Quoting CatfishJones:
Mailman just came by, completely oblivious that we're under a Tornado Warning (Madiera/IRB/Seminole).

"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds".
In June of 1992, this guy dropped 25 inches of rain on us......Tropical Depression One in June 1992 produced 100-year floods in portions of southwestern Florida. The first tropical depression and second tropical cyclone of the 1992 Atlantic hurricane season, the depression developed on June 25 from a tropical wave. Located in an environment of strong wind shear, much of the convection in the system was located well to the southeast of the poorly defined center of circulation. The depression moved northeastward and struck near Tampa, Florida on June 26 shortly before dissipating over land.

The depression, in combination with an upper-level trough to its west, produced heavy rainfall to the east of its path, peaking at 33.43 inches (849 mm) in Cuba and 25 inches (635 mm) in Florida. In Cuba, the rainfall destroyed hundreds of homes and caused two fatalities. In Florida, particularly in Sarasota and Manatee counties, the rainfall caused severe flooding. 4,000 houses were affected, forcing thousands to evacuate. The flooding killed two in the state and was indirectly responsible for a traffic causality. Damage in Florida totaled over $2.6 million (1992 USD, $4 million 2009 USD).
Quoting Barefootontherocks:



Been watching that cell, nrt.

It means business. Be careful anyone in it's path.



Not looking as strong now as it did a just prior to the Tor warning. Steel... be careful.
:)
1033 EDT image


Add:
'Bye now, Floridians. Enjoy your day.
Guys, I doubt many are doing any "bashing" because folks are discussing the ongoing severe weather outbreak. But I and others do believe the repeated shouts of "TAKE COVER!!!" and "BE CAREFUL!!!" and "STAY SAFE!!!!" and "OMG THIS IS THE WORST SEVERE WEATHER IN FLORIDA SINCE 1993!!!!" are unnecessary at best, if not outright needlessly confusing. At any rate, I doubt anyone who is under the gun will ignore, say, the first five or six such warnings before finally being prompted to action by the seventh one; it's best if everyone just posts accurate information as to what is happening, where it's happening, and where it's expected to go.
609. Jax82
Tampa/St Pete getting drilled.

Quoting Neapolitan:
Guys, I doubt many are doing any "bashing" because folks are discussing the ongoing severe weather outbreak. But I and others do believe the repeated shouts of "TAKE COVER!!!" and "BE CAREFUL!!!" and "STAY SAFE!!!!" and "OMG THIS IS THE WORST SEVERE WEATHER IN FLORIDA SINCE 1993!!!!" are unnecessary at best, if not outright needlessly confusing. At any rate, I doubt anyone who is under the gun will ignore, say, the first five or six such warnings before finally being prompted to action by the seventh one; it's best if everyone just posts accurate information as to what is happening, where it's happening, and where it's expected to go.

Amen!

In other news, it is sunny here and shaping up to be a great day.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Guys, I doubt many are doing any "bashing" because folks are discussing the ongoing severe weather outbreak. But I and others do believe the repeated shouts of "TAKE COVER!!!" and "BE CAREFUL!!!" and "STAY SAFE!!!!" and "OMG THIS IS THE WORST SEVERE WEATHER IN FLORIDA SINCE 1993!!!!" are unnecessary at best, if not outright needlessly confusing. At any rate, I doubt anyone who is under the gun will ignore, say, the first five or six such warnings before finally being prompted to action by the seventh one; it's best if everyone just posts accurate information as to what is happening, where it's happening, and where it's expected to go.


LOL, Neo. (O intended)
Go for it. I got work to do.
Sure wish I could have that kind of red blob over me on radar, need rain here in SE TX
pat robertson just had a guest on that was pushing g.c. (global cooling) at least for the next two decades.
Yesterdays historic severe weather reports..



Quoting Neapolitan:
Guys, I doubt many are doing any "bashing" because folks are discussing the ongoing severe weather outbreak. But I and others do believe the repeated shouts of "TAKE COVER!!!" and "BE CAREFUL!!!" and "STAY SAFE!!!!" and "OMG THIS IS THE WORST SEVERE WEATHER IN FLORIDA SINCE 1993!!!!" are unnecessary at best, if not outright needlessly confusing. At any rate, I doubt anyone who is under the gun will ignore, say, the first five or six such warnings before finally being prompted to action by the seventh one; it's best if everyone just posts accurate information as to what is happening, where it's happening, and where it's expected to go.


I agree with the Caps statements but this is weather that we have not seen in many many years in Palm Bay. I have never seen that much hail dumped at my house in Palm Bay in the 26 years I have lived there

616. Jax82
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
1114 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
CENTRAL PINELLAS COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL NOON EDT

* AT 1110 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
TORNADO NEAR LARGO...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
HIGHPOINT.
TOWN `N` COUNTRY.
TAMPA.
EAST LAKE-ORIENT PARK.
MANGO.
SEFFNER.

This is not good news for those trying to clean up from previous storms...
Man the Gulf of Mexico sure has heated up in the last week.



I'm off to a trio of exciting meetings. Before I go, though, this, which is sad if true. (FN:TIWAGOS)

Japan's Nuclear Rescuers: 'Inevitable Some of Them May Die Within Weeks'

Workers at the disaster-stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan say they expect to die from radiation sickness as a result of their efforts to bring the reactors under control, the mother of one of the men tells Fox News.

The so-called Fukushima 50, the team of brave plant workers struggling to prevent a meltdown to four reactors critically damaged by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, are being repeatedly exposed to dangerously high radioactive levels as they attempt to bring vital cooling systems back online.

Speaking tearfully through an interpreter by phone, the mother of a 32-year-old worker said: “My son and his colleagues have discussed it at length and they have committed themselves to die if necessary to save the nation. “He told me they have accepted they will all probably die from radiation sickness in the short term or cancer in the long-term.”

“They have concluded between themselves that it is inevitable some of them may die within weeks or months. They know it is impossible for them not to have been exposed to lethal doses of radiation.”

Article...
Quoting reedzone:
We are NOT over hyping this situation. Even the METS here in Central Florida said that yesterdays outbreak of severe weather was the worst severe weather outbreak since 1993. Get over yourselves, this is a very bad event here in Florida.
it better be bad did a quick scan over every tv station nothing but hyping this cold front. wunderbrothers yur ad del fest looks like great fun railroad earth is one of the best bandsin america now
Quoting Jax82:
Tampa/St Pete getting drilled.

Imagine being on the east side of the bay, watching that coming at you....


Sure, yep this is hype, oh yeahh... We're crazy :P

Get over yourselves...
Quoting hydrus:
Imagine being on the east side of the bay, watching that coming at you....


I would be snapping pictures, and loving every second of it.
Quoting ILwthrfan:
Man the Gulf of Mexico sure has heated up in the last week.



Yes...The gulf is known for its ability to warm very quickly. After all, it has its own heating element...:)(loop current )...
Quoting PSUweathermet:


I would be snapping pictures, and loving every second of it.
Me too...And I have seen some bad ones...
628. Jax82
Quoting RitaEvac:


Wonder was the rainfall rate is in Tampa under that cell. Got to be raining cats and dogs, maybe cows.
Radioactive oil slicked hail



Quoting hydrus:
Imagine being on the east side of the bay, watching that coming at you....

First you say it, then you do it.
Quoting PSUweathermet:


I would be snapping pictures, and loving every second of it.



I take pics from my house on the second floor when storms come in, which overlooks just the other side of the other townhouses. Where my friend lives, at his pool, all it overlooks is just barren land and a wildlife preserve. I'd love to do it from there one day.
Quoting hydrus:
Me too...And I have seen some bad ones...


They are great powers of nature, to me completely worth the hour or two of yard clean up afterword. Plus, air always seems so clean after a big storm.
633. skook
unconfirmed report from bay news 9, Trucks are overturned on the top of cars on I275 in pinellas county.
Quoting reedzone:


Sure, yep this is hype, oh yeahh... We're crazy :P

Get over yourselves...


Reed, don't even tell us that. We're just sick and tired of some screaming OMG! and WOW! What would be better was if people (like a good some are doing) is posting the text from the NWS on the warnings.
Quoting caneswatch:



I take pics from my house on the second floor when storms come in, which overlooks just the other side of the other townhouses. Where my friend lives, at his pool, all it overlooks is just barren land and a wildlife preserve. I'd love to do it from there one day.


yeah, up here in the mountains its really neat to watch storms move through, almost looks like they are rising and falling with the landscape.
East Tampa here and it's just started raining with T&L.
Quoting caneswatch:


Reed, don't even tell us that. We're just sick and tired of some screaming OMG! and WOW! What would be better was if people (like a good some are doing) is posting the text from the NWS on the warnings.

OMG!
WOW!
Thunder!
Lightning!
Destruction!
Its the end of the world!
OMG!
WOW!
Quoting emcf30:



now thats a cool picture! was that on the ground? or that just a really defined funnel cloud?
Quoting RitaEvac:


why do you keep posting the radar over and over again? it auto updates in all of them.
From KSC this morning


Quoting PSUweathermet:


yeah, up here in the mountains its really neat to watch storms move through, almost looks like they are rising and falling with the landscape.


I was up in the Rockies a few weeks ago. Watching the storms (albeit snow) was different but neat.
Lots of flooding also occuring here in Seminole County so be very carefull on the roads as this rain has been relentless. Yes Nea, Tom Terry and the NWS of Melbourne agree this is the worst it's been since the Superstorm of 1993. God forbid if you talk about severe wx on here! Geesh!
Quoting PSUweathermet:


why do you keep posting the radar over and over again? it auto updates in all of them.


So you dont have to scroll back up looking for it

Quoting PSUweathermet:


now thats a cool picture! was that on the ground? or that just a really defined funnel cloud?


just a funnel.

Quoting emcf30:

Quoting emcf30:
From KSC this morning




Neat pics. Keep on posting some more.
Quoting RastaSteve:
Lots of flooding also occuring here in Seminole County so be very carefull on the roads as this rain has been relentless. Yes Nea, Tom Terry and the NWS of Melbourne agree this is the worst it's been since the Superstorm of 1993. God forbid if you talk about severe wx on here! Geesh!

Talking about a severe weather event, and adding editorials to said discussion are two entirely different things.
Quoting caneswatch:


I was up in the Rockies a few weeks ago. Watching the storms (albeit snow) was different but neat.


yeah especially if the winds are whipping, watching the low clouds dive after the mountains is really cool to watch.
Quoting emcf30:
From KSC this morning




Looks like crashing waves, except of clouds.
Quoting Raysfan70:
East Tampa here and it's just started raining with T&L.


Tor warned cell at Tampa.


Don't know exactly where you are, Rays. Be careful. The severe should move south some pretty soon.

Ok, I'm an hour late for work. That's it from me, Florida.
Quoting jeffs713:

OMG!
WOW!
Thunder!
Lightning!
Destruction!
Its the end of the world!
OMG!
WOW!


No, that's RitaEvac with radiation doom and gas price doom!
OMG!! Florida is gonna fall into the ocean after these storms!!
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
1151 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WESTERN POLK COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
EASTERN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 1230 PM EDT

* AT 1148 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
TORNADO NEAR BLOOMINGDALE...OR NEAR BRANDON...MOVING EAST AT 45
MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
BLOOMINGDALE.
WILLOW OAK.
MULBERRY.
BARTOW.
655.

Hello pot, meet kettle.
Quoting jeffs713:
655.

Hello pot, meet kettle.


He won't get that...
660. Kearn
honestly, it appears the band only has 2 cells that appear to be capable of tornadoes...

seems like the band is falling apart as it moves inland, i think that after that tornado warning expires we shouldn't see too much later on
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
1151 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MELBOURNE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHWESTERN BREVARD COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...SCOTTSMOOR...HAULOVER CANAL...
NORTHEASTERN SEMINOLE COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
SOUTHEASTERN VOLUSIA COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...OAK HILL...MAYTOWN...EDGEWATER...

* UNTIL 1215 PM EDT.

* AT 1147 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR MAYTOWN...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 65 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
BETHUNE BEACH...ELDORA...APOLLO BEACH AND INTERSTATE 95 BETWEEN MILE
MARKER 227 AND 244.
Quoting Kearn:
honestly, it appears the band only has 2 cells that appear to be capable of tornadoes...

seems like the band is falling apart as it moves inland, i think that after that tornado warning expires we shouldn't see too much later on


Well that's true, but it's not cloudy in South Florida. Should see regeneration of storms as they head into the warm, muggy south side of the state. Could be interesting from the fact that the SPC has a 30% chance of high winds.

Quoting PSUweathermet:


He won't get that...

Thats the point. ;)
TORNADO WARNING
FLC057-105-311630-
/O.NEW.KTBW.TO.W.0025.110331T1551Z-110331T1630Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
1151 AM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WESTERN POLK COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
EASTERN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 1230 PM EDT

* AT 1148 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
TORNADO NEAR BLOOMINGDALE...OR NEAR BRANDON...MOVING EAST AT 45
MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
BLOOMINGDALE.
WILLOW OAK.
MULBERRY.
BARTOW.

THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE SHELTER NOW.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IF YOU ARE IN THE PATH OF THE TORNADO GO TO A SMALL INTERIOR ROOM IN
A STRONG AND WELL CONSTRUCTED BUILDING. CARS AND MOBILE HOMES ARE NOT
SAFE. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN A DITCH OR CULVERT AND
COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

TO REPORT SEVERE WEATHER TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PLEASE CALL
813-645-2323.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 100 PM EDT THURSDAY AFTERNOON
FOR SOUTHWESTERN FLORIDA.

&&

LAT...LON 2791 8166 2769 8183 2786 8230 2793 8225
TIME...MOT...LOC 1551Z 279DEG 37KT 2788 8224

$$

JOHNSON
665. Kearn
Quoting reedzone:


Well that's true, but it's not cloudy in South Florida. Should see regeneration of storms as they head into the warm, muggy south side of the state. Could be interesting from the fact that the SPC has a 30% chance of high winds.



well, i'm not so sure about some serious storm regeneration. it has been overcast all day long today and the storms are not even near me yet

i expect they won't really get stronger until they're near or south of lake okeechobee
Quoting Kearn:


well, i'm not so sure about some serious storm regeneration. it has been overcast all day long today and the storms are not even near me yet

i expect they won't really get stronger until they're near or south of lake okeechobee


It was overcast up here all morning before the outbreak started yesterday. Even though the sun was peaking out a few times, it was cloudy, bright, and humid all day. If your temp is around 80 degrees with dew points over 70, I would be concerned. We have lots of damage in the area, something we normally pass by on.
Anybody take any pic's or video of the storms in Fla. on here?
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
1207 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

FLC009-127-311615-
/O.CON.KMLB.TO.W.0015.000000T0000Z-110331T1615Z/
VOLUSIA-BREVARD-
1207 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1215 PM EDT FOR
NORTHWESTERN BREVARD AND SOUTHEASTERN VOLUSIA COUNTIES...

AT 1205 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS CONTINUED TO
DETECT A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR SHILOH...OR 6 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF OAK HILL...MOVING EAST AT 60 MPH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO...THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
PEA SIZE HAIL AND DESTRUCTIVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 100 PM EDT THURSDAY AFTERNOON
FOR EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA.

&&

LAT...LON 2879 8096 2890 8088 2902 8087 2871 8067
2870 8067 2870 8069 2874 8070 2875 8073
2887 8080 2885 8081 2886 8082 2870 8072
2870 8077 2871 8075 2873 8076 2879 8084
2869 8083 2868 8097
TIME...MOT...LOC 1607Z 252DEG 53KT 2885 8073

$$


MOSES
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
1207 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

FLC105-311630-
/O.CON.KTBW.TO.W.0025.000000T0000Z-110331T1630Z/
POLK FL-
1207 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1230 PM EDT FOR CENTRAL
POLK COUNTY...

AT 1205 PM EDT...TRAINED WEATHER SPOTTERS REPORTED A TORNADO.
LOCATED NEAR MULBERRY...OR 8 MILES WEST OF BARTOW...MOVING EAST AT 45
MPH.


AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS ARE OBSERVING A TORNADO NEAR MULBERRY AT
1205 PM EDT.


THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
MULBERRY.
BARTOW.
FORT MEADE.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IF YOU ARE IN THE PATH OF THE TORNADO GO TO A SMALL INTERIOR ROOM IN
A STRONG AND WELL CONSTRUCTED BUILDING. CARS AND MOBILE HOMES ARE NOT
SAFE. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN A DITCH OR CULVERT AND
COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 100 PM EDT THURSDAY AFTERNOON
FOR SOUTHWESTERN FLORIDA.

&&

LAT...LON 2778 8203 2792 8199 2791 8166 2769 8183
TIME...MOT...LOC 1607Z 279DEG 37KT 2787 8192

$$

JOHNSON
Our threat for severe weather up here in Flagler County, FL has now diminished as the Tornado Watch has expired for us, well chopped down that is.
Quoting overwash12:
Anybody take any pic's or video of the storms in Fla. on here?


Watching TV. Amazing pics coming in from Central Pinellas (Clw/Largo). Lot's and lots of damage. Planes blown over at the St Pete/Clw airport.
I don't think the storms are going to actually regenerate further south. What I think will happen is their outflow boundaries will touch off storms as the day goes on.

Does anyone have a chart of CAPE values for SFL?
Well at least Fla. got some rain, too bad about the damage or possible injuries!
Those old diseased trees are the real hazard today..
Confirmed Tornado on ground in Bartow. These storms come in strong of GOM them flatten out, then regenerate.
Is that front going to make it all the way down here? I just layed a bunch of sod and could use the rain. They say it is but it looks to be moving east to west across the state. We should get our rain tonight but how much is the question.

Quoting Skyepony:
Those old diseased trees are the real hazard today..

I agree, they have not had a good cleaning out since Charlie in the Orlando area. I know just in my area in the Lake Conway  there are atleast 20 plus down. Although some are healthy but  the root system, sidewalks and all came tumbling down. I will try to post a good pic of one.

Maybe Floridaheat caught some eyewitness accounts of the storms as they went across Publix parking lot,film at 11!
Quoting Skyepony:
Those old diseased trees are the real hazard today..

Yep.

Since I am a bit of an optimist, I think I may have found a silver lining to these storms...

With the winds these storms are packing (50-65 mph), they will "weed out" the weakest of the trees, and cause some minor to moderate damage, so when/if the next hurricane comes, they won't be around to do significant damage with winds twice the speed.
Accuweather has its 2011 hurricane predictions out. More US land impacts forecasted.
Quoting scott39:
Accuweather has its 2011 hurricane predictions out. More US land impacts forecasted.
They will be right one of these years,I can feel it! LoL
Quoting overwash12:
Maybe Floridaheat caught some eyewitness accounts of the storms as they went across Publix parking lot,film at 11!


LOL
Quoting overwash12:
They will be right one of these years,I can feel it! LoL
No Bastardi this year---so maybe. LOL
OneDrop~ It should work itself south.


Wow..
Quoting overwash12:
They will be right one of these years,I can feel it! LoL

Insanity is preforming the same action repeatedly, and expecting a different result each time. In this case, accuweather consistently forecasts US landfalls, which doesn't always happen.

Also, statistically, if you forecast the same thing over and over and over, eventually you will be right.

And finally... their landfall forecast looks eerily similar to the historical landfall locations from the last 120 years.
Quoting jeffs713:

Yep.

Since I am a bit of an optimist, I think I may have found a silver lining to these storms...

With the winds these storms are packing (50-65 mph), they will "weed out" the weakest of the trees, and cause some minor to moderate damage, so when/if the next hurricane comes, they won't be around to do significant damage with winds twice the speed.


I agree, if we are in for a bad season may as well clean up the infrastructure & clean out some trees ready to go.
Hanger collapse at Lakeland airport, People inside. Unknown injuries. Also, multiple planes flipped over at sun n fun at the airport there.
Quoting Skyepony:
OneDrop~ It should work itself south.


Wow..

Wow is right. That is a LOT of helicity!

Quoting emcf30:


I wonder how it feels to be the person in that Altima. Talk about getting a good parking spot...
Quoting jeffs713:

Yep.

Since I am a bit of an optimist, I think I may have found a silver lining to these storms...

With the winds these storms are packing (50-65 mph), they will "weed out" the weakest of the trees, and cause some minor to moderate damage, so when/if the next hurricane comes, they won't be around to do significant damage with winds twice the speed.

True enough.
But I still cry for the Trees.
Quoting jeffs713:

Insanity is preforming the same action repeatedly, and expecting a different result each time. In this case, accuweather consistently forecasts US landfalls, which doesn't always happen.

Also, statistically, if you forecast the same thing over and over and over, eventually you will be right.

And finally... their landfall forecast looks eerily similar to the historical landfall locations from the last 120 years.
Do you feel the US will be as lucky as last year?
Quoting Skyepony:
OneDrop~ It should work itself south.


Wow..
Thanks Skye
Today, over 21 and counting...

Quoting jeffs713:

Insanity is preforming the same action repeatedly, and expecting a different result each time. In this case, accuweather consistently forecasts US landfalls, which doesn't always happen.

Also, statistically, if you forecast the same thing over and over and over, eventually you will be right.

And finally... their landfall forecast looks eerily similar to the historical landfall locations from the last 120 years.
Maybe thats what they are basing there forecast on, History!
Quoting Skyepony:


I agree, if we are in for a bad season may as well clean up the infrastructure & clean out some trees ready to go.

Yep. In Houston, we didn't get that natural cleanup before Ike (and the power companies were too incompetent to do it themselves), so we paid for it with week-long power outages.
My Bad, Hanger collapse was in Lake Whales not Lakeland. Planes were flipped at Lakeland.
Accuweather 2011 15-8-3
Quoting scott39:
Do you feel the US will be as lucky as last year?

No.
Going from a La Nina to a neutral year, activity is likely to be a bit above historical average. In addition, the A/B high is forecast to be slightly stronger than average, which leads to more westerly storm tracks and the warmest SSTs pushed further west. Also, a good analogue to this year's conditions is 2008, and most of us remember what happened that year.
Quoting jeffs713: I wonder how it feels to be the person in that Altima. Talk about getting a good parking spot...


As quoted by Mayhem of the Allstate commercials..."Shakey...shakey, shakey, shakey!"



Sorry... wanted to provide a little levity here. It was already stressful for me as my daughter lives in Brandon. She was a bit freaked.
Quoting overwash12:
Maybe thats what they are basing there forecast on, History!

Guess they are using the CLIP5 model.

Or maybe the FLUSH model.
Quoting jeffs713:

No.
Going from a La Nina to a neutral year, activity is likely to be a bit above historical average. In addition, the A/B high is forecast to be slightly stronger than average, which leads to more westerly storm tracks and the warmest SSTs pushed further west. Also, a good analogue to this year's conditions is 2008, and most of us remember what happened that year.
Why were most forecasters saying more westerly last season for the CV storms and then it changed?
Shakey...shakey, shakey, shakey!

Gonna be some damage
well guys its not looking good for the Caribbean and GOM based on the forecast from Accuweather so I preped up now are you WU bloggers in these areas
According to the Japan National Police Agency, the confirmed death toll from the earthquake is now 11,438 and the number missing is 16,541. The combined total is 27,979.

Daily change in confirmed dead up 56
Daily change in listed missing is up 251
Daily change in combined total is up 307
Does anyone know when the 2011 hurricane prediction will be released by colo. state univ.? just curious to know what we are looking at this storm season.
709. Kearn
clouds look really funny towards lake kissimmee, do we have a possible tornado now?
Quoting scott39:
Why were most forecasters saying more westerly last season for the CV storms and then it changed?

The forecast changed. Historically, springtime forecasts stink, especially when the ENSO status is changing. Early last year, the ENSO models were showing a transition from a moderate-to-strong El Nino to neutral or weak La Nina. As the year went on, it became apparent that ENSO was trending towards a moderate-to-strong La Nina, which changes forecasts quite a bit. Also, the atmosphere lagged behind the ocean (much like 2009 did, iirc), which made forecasting difficult.

The Caribbean was rather wonky last year, with invisible (at least to most models and measurements) dry slots at the mid levels.

And finally, the persistent trough on the East Coast was *not* well forecasted, in either its duration or intensity.

[edit: Anyone with more experience or tools available to them, feel free to correct me]
Quoting odinslightning:



Allstate is the most crooked carrier known to man. I would rather have an a.c.v. lloyds policy than an r.c.v. policy with Allhate. They scam their insureds....They get into IntegraClaim and they downward slope the pricing illegally. Allhate is crooked and I refuse to shop at Sears or use H&R Block....anything Sears Roebuck owns i avoid cuz they are thieves and liars.
So,I take your not in good hands!LOL
EAS: NEW Tornado Watch until 8pm. I'll post the NWS text.

TORNADO WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WT 81
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1245 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

TORNADO WATCH 81 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 800 PM EDT FOR THE
FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

FLC009-015-027-043-049-051-055-057-061-071-081-08 5-093-095-097-
099-103-105-111-115-117-010000-
/O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0081.110331T1645Z-110401T0000Z/

FL
. FLORIDA COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

BREVARD CHARLOTTE DESOTO
GLADES HARDEE HENDRY
HIGHLANDS HILLSBOROUGH INDIAN RIVER
LEE MANATEE MARTIN
OKEECHOBEE ORANGE OSCEOLA
PALM BEACH PINELLAS POLK
SARASOTA SEMINOLE ST. LUCIE
Quoting overwash12:
So,I take your not in good hands!LOL



LOL! Your in Crooks Hands, at MCO and Pilot.....lmfao
711.

I'm not fond of Allstate myself, especially after comparing my wife's rates with mine (I'm technically a higher risk group, and I was paying $400 less per year in a newer, more expensive car, both of us with totally clean records)
New FL Tor watch, MCD and new Day 1 severe outlook removed.
Quoting odinslightning:



Allstate is the most crooked carrier known to man.


Good grief. I don't give 2 shakes about the insurance carrier. I just find the commercial funny, just like I USED to find the Geico commercials funny.
been off all off season! Good to see some familiar faces.... Cape Coral is WINDY boy...anyone know what time we should get the storms?
And a new updated figure was just released. They haven't done that at this time of day before, not in the last week anyway.

According to the Japan National Police Agency, the confirmed death toll from the earthquake is now 11,532 and the number missing is 16,441. The combined total is 27,973.

Daily change in confirmed dead up 150
Daily change in listed missing is up 151
Daily change in combined total is up 301
Quoting jeffs713:
711.

I'm not fond of Allstate myself, especially after comparing my wife's rates with mine (I'm technically a higher risk group, and I was paying $400 less per year in a newer, more expensive car, both of us with totally clean records)




Yah, and trust me the real crookedness begins when you submit a claim. I caught them in 2009 in Denver getting into IntegraClaim and changing the pricing downward about 30-40%. They changed a square of roofing 25 yr shingles from 145 a square to a round 100 bucks. They are so stupid that when they do downward slope pricing they round numbers off. Crooked as the day is long.....Trust me, find u a new carrier before hurricane season starts if you live in CONUS east coast. I think the predictions for a busy storm season will be dramatically higher than the November/December 2010 predictions since the La Nina has not receded but in fact has only strengthened. When they announce the new predictions the premium quotes for all carriers will have to be raised....so change now before you will pay more...
Quoting Greyelf:


Good grief. I don't give 2 shakes about the insurance carrier. I just find the commercial funny, just like I USED to find the Geico commercials funny.



lol, nothing wrong with that friend...Cheers



They make me laugh too, but I also laugh at different levels of the joke, like how they r so crooked and the commercials just look spooky in a way like the film stock is silver nitrate.....anyhow :) cheers
Ok, I apologize now to all that are going to have to read subsequent posts about how X Insurance sucks. I guess I should have added a disclaimer with my earlier post stating my posting of the commercial was not an endorsement. LOL..

Quoting Kearn:
clouds look really funny towards lake kissimmee, do we have a possible tornado now?

That the storm that hit  Lakeland and  Lake Whales. Nearing Holopaw now and moving towards Melbourne. Channel 9 just said this is the strongest one yet. They also said NWS stated possible tornado hit fun n sun at Lakeland airport. Reports are at least 70 people trapped in downed hanger. Fire EMS enroute to scene.

Quoting Neapolitan:
I'm off to a trio of exciting meetings. Before I go, though, this, which is sad if true. (FN:TIWAGOS)


Japan's Nuclear Rescuers: 'Inevitable Some of Them May Die Within Weeks'

Workers at the disaster-stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan say they expect to die from radiation sickness as a result of their efforts to bring the reactors under control, the mother of one of the men tells Fox News.

The so-called Fukushima 50, the team of brave plant workers struggling to prevent a meltdown to four reactors critically damaged by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, are being repeatedly exposed to dangerously high radioactive levels as they attempt to bring vital cooling systems back online.

Speaking tearfully through an interpreter by phone, the mother of a 32-year-old worker said: %u201CMy son and his colleagues have discussed it at length and they have committed themselves to die if necessary to save the nation. %u201CHe told me they have accepted they will all probably die from radiation sickness in the short term or cancer in the long-term.%u201D

%u201CThey have concluded between themselves that it is inevitable some of them may die within weeks or months. They know it is impossible for them not to have been exposed to lethal doses of radiation.%u201D

Article...


Brings to mind that saying: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few..."
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
1255 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

FLC097-311715-
/O.CON.KMLB.TO.W.0017.000000T0000Z-110331T1715Z/
OSCEOLA-
1255 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 115 PM EDT FOR CENTRAL
OSCEOLA COUNTY...

AT 1252 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS CONTINUED TO
DETECT A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR FOREVER FLORIDA...OR
9 MILES SOUTH OF HOLOPAW...MOVING EAST AT 60 TO 65 MPH.

Now that's hauling ass...
Quoting jeffs713:

No.
Going from a La Nina to a neutral year, activity is likely to be a bit above historical average. In addition, the A/B high is forecast to be slightly stronger than average, which leads to more westerly storm tracks and the warmest SSTs pushed further west. Also, a good analogue to this year's conditions is 2008, and most of us remember what happened that year.



hmm neutral strange maybe the models show that but here on the gulf coast we haven't seen the end of the pineapple express all year. 58 degrees at the end of march....it feels like december/january. but maybe im missing something.
Quoting hcubed:


Brings to mind that saying: "The needs of the many oughtweigh the needs of the few..."


Or the one
Quoting Greyelf:
Ok, I apologize now to all that are going to have to read subsequent posts about how X Insurance sucks. I guess I should have added a disclaimer with my earlier post stating my posting of the commercial was not an endorsement. LOL..



lol elf sorry didn't mean to troll or attack your comments. your cool i just saw that allstate commercial and it made me rattle on in a different direction.

no malice intended, i just know about certain things and i was trying to help you all out by informing you of on the ground conditions in the real world. what you said was totally cool, sorry about the confusion :)
Now that things have cooled down for my daughter and I don't have to watch like a mother hen, I thought I'd come here to ask a question. She said they have no siren (which is why I was helping to watch out for her in case her power went out). Why in the world would such a developed area not have a siren?!?
Hi, I'm an AllState agent and I'd love to recruit some of you today especially with the predictions for this hurricane season. Let's go into a private chat if interested.

LOL
I may be about to get smacked here...Under a Tornado Warning.
TORNADO WARNING
FLC009-097-311745-
/O.NEW.KMLB.TO.W.0018.110331T1705Z-110331T1745Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
105 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MELBOURNE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN BREVARD COUNTY IN FLORIDA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...SATELLITE BEACH...PATRICK AIRFORCE
BASE...PALM BAY...MELBOURNE...MALABAR...INDIALANTIC...CAMP HOLLY
FISH CAMP...
EAST CENTRAL OSCEOLA COUNTY IN FLORIDA...

* UNTIL 145 PM EDT.

* AT 101 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 7 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF CAMP HOLLY FISH CAMP...MOVING EAST AT 70 MPH.
.
Quoting cat5hurricane:
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
1255 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

FLC097-311715-
/O.CON.KMLB.TO.W.0017.000000T0000Z-110331T1715Z/
OSCEOLA-
1255 PM EDT THU MAR 31 2011

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 115 PM EDT FOR CENTRAL
OSCEOLA COUNTY...

AT 1252 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS CONTINUED TO
DETECT A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR FOREVER FLORIDA...OR
9 MILES SOUTH OF HOLOPAW...MOVING EAST AT 60 TO 65 MPH.

Now that's hauling ass...
We had one up here last week moving at 68 knots....
It is getting really ugly out there right now!
Quoting Skyepony:
I may be about to get smacked here...Under a Tornado Warning.

Greyelf~ I think it's not a huge priority in FL cause most tornadoes are EF-0s.. We don't have them here either. NWS says get a weather radio. You can get text/e-mail alerts too.
Quoting palmbaywhoo:
It is getting really ugly out there right now!



You'll probably get even worse than me.
We've been tracking a likely rain-wrapped tornado from Indian Shores to
Forever, FL. Damage has been reported all along this stretch. The
tornado has crossed over the turnpike and heading toward I-95 near June
Park and eventually Melbourne. Damaging, destructive winds are likely.
There are active tornado warnings across central Florida including the
I-4 corridor from Tampa to Orlando. The tornado threat continues through
this afternoon. Track the Storms


weather.com
I expect 60mph gusts at NWS site ASAP
Quoting RitaEvac:

Talk about a last minute bow / hook echo. Damaging straight line winds possible in some areas along and just ahead of that line in addition to the threat of tornadic winds that prompted the tornado warning for that area.
NWS site was at the peak point of bow echo
Quoting RitaEvac:
NWS site was at the peak point of bow echo

I expect 60mph...possibly even higher gusts, since that whole thing was hauling east near 70mph.
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Talk about a last minute bow / hook echo. Damaging straight line winds possible in some areas along and just ahead of that line in addition to the threat of tornadic winds that prompted the tornado warning for that area.


its pretty cold behind this front thats moving over all of u in fla. im in mobile and we r behind it....its about 55-60 degrees here, colder in the shade. last night it was pounding lightning deep and way up in the atmosphere cuz when it would strike it would rumble a super long time. i bet the tops of those clouds are way way up there.
Looks like Doc has a New Blog.
Quoting RitaEvac:
I expect 60mph gusts at NWS site ASAP
North Central Florida is taking a beating...
Doc has a New Blog.
Link
happy april fools day :)