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Extreme storms and extreme heat hit the U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:50 PM GMT on June 30, 2012

A violent line of organized severe thunderstorms called a derecho swept across the U.S. from Illinois to Virginia on Friday, damaging houses, toppling trees, bringing down power lines. The storms killed six people in Virginia, two in New Jersey, and one in Maryland, and left at least 3.4 million people without power. The thunderstorms in a derecho (from the Spanish phrase for "straight ahead") create violent winds that blow in a straight line. The traditional definition of a derecho is a thunderstorm complex that produces a damaging wind swath of at least 240 miles (about 400 km), featuring a concentrated area of thunderstorm wind gusts exceeding 58 mph (93 km/hr.) A warm weather phenomenon, derechos occur mostly in summer, especially June and July in the Northern Hemisphere. They can occur at any time of the year and occur as frequently at night as in the daylight hours. As seen on our wundermap with the "go back in time" feature turned on, Friday's derecho began near Chicago in the early afternoon, then marched east-southeast, peaking in intensity over Virginia and Washington D.C. on Friday evening. The derecho was unusually intense due to the extreme heat, which helped create an unstable atmosphere with plenty of energy to fuel severe thunderstorms.


Figure 1. Radar image from our wundermap with the "go back in time" feature turned on for 11 pm EDT Friday June 29, 2012, showing the derecho over Washington D.C. and Baltimore. Click on the "hour" button above the wundermap to advance the time by one hour to watch the progress of the derecho across the country.


Figure 2. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center (SPC) logged 871 reports of damaging winds on Friday. Twenty one of these reports were for winds over 80 mph. The highest wind gust was in Oswego, Illinois: 92 mph.



Figure 3. A dramatic change in the weather in Buckeye land: the temperature at Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio dropped from 97°F to 68° after passage of Friday's derecho. The storm brought a wind gust of 82 mph to campus, and 0.86" of rain.

Historic heat wave topples Dust Bowl-era extreme heat records
A historic heat wave on a scale and intensity not seen in the U.S. since the great heat waves of the 1930s Dust Bowl era set new all-time heat records for at least ten major cities Friday. According to wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt, fifteen of the 303 major cities he maintains records for on the wunderground extremes page have set all-time heat records in the past four days. The only year with more all-time heat records is 1936, when 61 cities set all-time heat records. In 2011, which had the 2nd warmest summer in U.S. history, only ten of the 303 cities set all-time heat records during the entire summer. With the the hottest month of the year (July) still to come, 2012 threatens to rival the great Dust Bowl summer of 1936 for extreme heat.

All-time records for any date tied or broken on Friday:

109° Nashville, TN (old record 107° 7/28/1952
109° Columbia, SC (old record 107° on two previous occasions)
109° Cairo, IL (old record 106° on 8/9/1930)
108° Paducah, KY (ties same on 7/17/1942
106° Chattanooga, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952)
105° Raleigh, NC (ties same on 8/21/2007 and 8/18/1988)
105° Greenville, SC (old record 104° 8/10/2007 although 106° was recorded by the Signal Service in July 1887)
104° Charlotte, NC (ties same on 8/9 and 10/2007 and 9/6/1954)
102° Bristol, TN (ties same on 7/28/1952-this site now known as `Tri-State Airport')
109° Athens, GA. This is just 1° shy of the Georgia state record for June of 110° set at Warrenton in 1959.

All-time state June heat records set Friday:

113° Smyrna, TN (old record 110° in Etowah in June 1936)
109° Cairo, IL (old record 108° in Palestine in June 1954)

Also of note: Atlanta, GA hit 104° (its all-time June record), and just 1° shy of its all-time record of 105° set on 7/17/1980. The forecast for Atlanta on Saturday calls for a high of 105°F, which would tie for the hottest day in the city's history.

Wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt has a new post called The Amazing June Heat Wave of 2012 Part 1: The West and Plains June 23 - 27 summarizing the early portion of this week's historic heat wave. He plans to make a follow-up post on Sunday summarizing the records set on Friday and Saturday.

Relatively quiet in the Atlantic
An area of heavy thunderstorms, associated with an upper level low pressure system, has developed in the Gulf of Mexico along the Texas coast. This disturbance will probably move ashore over Texas before development into a tropical depression can occur, and NHC is giving it a 0% chance of development. The tropical wave approaching the Lesser Antilles (Invest 97L) has dissipated due to dry air, and is no longer a threat. None of the reliable computer models are developing anything during the next seven days.

Jeff Masters
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And the Sky Opened Up!
And the Sky Opened Up!
Much needed thunderstorms came through west-central Illinois late this evening. The lightning was absolutely incredible!

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The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

1001. spathy
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Uh Oh.... Please not again....


Doesnt look too solid a line yet. How fast is that moving?
Thanks Caicos...I couldn't get it to post with this phone
Quoting PlazaRed:

MOVE!


Not a bad idea, she might end up going to the smae college so there is hope there.

Quoting spathy:


Doesnt look too solid a line yet. How fast is that moving?


About 40 MPH, but it is slightly accelerating.
1004. spathy
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Not a bad idea, she might end up going to the smae college so there is hope there.



About 40 MPH, but it is slightly accelerating.


Thanks WxG
1005. Levi32
Based on the meridional (north-south) component of the 650mb wind, there is only a weak tropical wave along 38W over the central Atlantic, and there appear to be no well-defined tropical waves over the African continent at this time (maybe a very low-amplitude one at 10W), so the prospects are rather low in the near future of a potent tropical wave coming westward and needing to be watched for tropical development.

1006. spathy
accelerating ?
Not good.
I understand your trepidation after what youall have just been through. I grew up in your area and all those trees are pretty as long as they dont come down around you or yours.
I assume you are from Virginia.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Uh Oh.... Please not again....

Well, if that first line went that high and was unable to break the cap... Thank God.. y'all are probably going to be OK.
1008. hydrus
Quoting Levi32:
Based on the meridional (north-south) component of the 650mb wind, there is only a weak tropical wave along 38W over the central Atlantic, and there appear to be no well-defined tropical waves over the African continent at this time (maybe a very low-amplitude one at 10W), so the prospects are rather low in the near future of a potent tropical wave coming westward and needing to be watched for tropical development.

I hear weeping.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Not a bad idea, she might end up going to the smae college so there is hope there.



About 40 MPH, but it is slightly accelerating.

Yer,
You got to show a bit of enthusiasm.
After all she spent millions of years perfecting her genes so as you would be attracted to her, so you got to put in a bit of effort.
After all if you have got a few topics of interest you and communicate on, then why not consider heading out into her territory and sweeping streets or filling shelves at the local store to let her know you are more than a passing breeze in the night.
Might just work, after all we are all behind you and if you run into problems the whole of WU underground could come to your emotional rescue, maybe even will up the odd t'storm overhead for you as an added feature of general interest!
storms look to be falling apart in ohio..
Quoting PlazaRed:

Yer,
You got to show a bit of enthusiasm.
After all she spent millions of years perfecting her genes so as you would be attracted to her, so you got to put in a bit of effort.
After all if you have got a few topics of interest you and communicate on, then why not consider heading out into her territory and sweeping streets or filling shelves at the local store to let her know you are more than a passing breeze in the night.
Might just work, after all we are all behind you and if you run into problems the whole of WU underground could come to your emotional rescue, maybe even will up the odd t'storm overhead for you as an added feature of general interest!


I'm going out stormchasing next spring there so I want to hang with her then. I hope it works out, I like everything about her sucks I only got to hang for a week last time.
@ #960 Herbert boxes??
Quoting Levi32:
Based on the meridional (north-south) component of the 650mb wind, there is only a weak tropical wave along 38W over the central Atlantic, and there appear to be no well-defined tropical waves over the African continent at this time (maybe a very low-amplitude one at 10W), so the prospects are rather low in the near future of a potent tropical wave coming westward and needing to be watched for tropical development.



So Levi,Ernesto will have to wait until after Mid July as the earliest?
1014. pcbhere
Temps have dropped from 103 to 84 degrees in the last 30 minutes here in Louisville, Ky. Storms to the north and hopefully, will be here soon. I was dancing on the front lawn with my dog yelling WOOT! WOOT!
Okay, I got that from one of the vets here, can't remember who at the moment but if that's the case then okay. I haven't been reading any of his recent comments except for the one hydrus quoted; so I may well be wrong. Thanks for that update.
1016. Grothar
Quoting VR46L:
there are some serious big blobs coming through the Mid Atlantic States at the moment..Be Careful folks




You're not kidding VR. big ones

1017. VR46L
Quoting mermaidlaw:
@ #960 Herbert boxes??


I wont post the shower curtain version lol


Link
1018. hydrus
Quoting WxGeekVA:


I'm going out stormchasing next spring there so I want to hang with her then. I hope it works out, I like everything about her sucks I only got to hang for a week last time.
I know your pain. If I only had a time machine how different my life might have been. Nice burst over Africa..
They issued Severe Thunderstorm Warnings for those things?
1020. beell
Quoting Levi32:
Based on the meridional (north-south) component of the 650mb wind, there is only a weak tropical wave along 38W over the central Atlantic, and there appear to be no well-defined tropical waves over the African continent at this time (maybe a very low-amplitude one at 10W), so the prospects are rather low in the near future of a potent tropical wave coming westward and needing to be watched for tropical development.



You and the graphics, Levi-so cool! You will have quite the impressive skill set when it's all said and done. Folks will be standing in line to put you to work!

The monsoon could make that 10W wave look impressive for a couple days-until it runs off the west end.
1021. spathy
Quoting Tribucanes:
Okay, I got that from one of the vets here, can't remember who at the moment but if that's the case then okay. I haven't been reading any of his recent comments except for the one hydrus quoted; so I may well be wrong. Thanks for that update.


Dont feel bad. I read the word as the picture directed my brain. I didnt even see it till it was pointed out.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


I'm going out stormchasing next spring there so I want to hang with her then. I hope it works out, I like everything about her sucks I only got to hang for a week last time.

A possible course in English grammar and spelling might be advantageous!
Added to the above, you might request her advise on any local issues, plus her general background interests so as you can research them on the Internet or better still with us here, (Much more fun,) Start by being intrigued by her knowledge of all things you are not too sure about and freely compliment her on her local knowledge, ( bound to work wonders,)
The main thing is not to appear too confident and ask advise on your theories.
Always bear in mind that the future of humanity is in your hands!

Whats happening with those wild fires out in the mid west area of the US? We have got some of several thousands of acres here in southern Europe and thousands of people have been evacuated in the Valencia area of Spain. Thing are so bad they are showing up clearly on the satellite photos here.
1023. Grothar
Sorry if I posted that twice. It is after 3AM here. What do you expect!!!
Quoting Grothar:


You're not kidding VR. big ones



Here's the thing... Beryl in 2006 developed off a mass of convection that came off of North Carolina... Current wind shear is 5-10 knots off the East Coast... If this persists, we may need to watch for tropical development.
1025. VR46L
Quoting Grothar:
Sorry if I posted that twice. It is after 3AM here. What do you expect!!!


Are you in mainland Europe ? because you are an hour ahead of me
1026. hydrus
Quoting Grothar:
Sorry if I posted that twice. It is after 3AM here. What do you expect!!!
Its yo birthday, you should be up partying...More bad weather for folks that got whacked today..Day 2 convective outlook
National Weather Service Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1208 PM CDT sun Jul 01 2012


Valid 021200z - 031200z


..there is a slight risk of severe thunderstorms across much of the middle Atlantic
region...


..there is a slight risk of severe thunderstorms from the eastern Dakotas into western
Upper Michigan...


...
The upper trough over the northestern U.S. Will begin to move eastward with axis
offshore by 00z. Modest northwesterly flow aloft will remain across New York/PA
southeastward into Virginia...with weaker northwesterly flow into the Carolinas but
relatively cool air aloft will remain. At the surface...pockets of
instability will remain from Ohio across WV and into Maryland...but some
early convection makes the forecast uncertain. Greater instability
will exist across the Carolinas and into Georgia.


To the west...a convectively enhanced disturbance associated with a
weak shortwave trough will weaken the ridge across the northern
plains...with storms persisting through the period...moving from ND
at 12z Monday into Upper Michigan by 12z Tuesday. Low pressure will move from northern
South Dakota/southern ND eastward across central Minnesota overnight...and the greatest storms
threat will be along and just north of the low track.


..WV/Maryland southward across the Carolinas...
Models indicate storms may be ongoing across portions of Ohio and WV
Monday morning. This activity...or at least outflow...may continue southeastward
across Virginia and NC...possibly regenerating during the afternoon with a
wind and hail threat. Other activity is expected to form within a
weak surface trough southwestward into SC and eastern Georgia. The steep lapse rate
environment and ample moisture will favor strong downbursts and
hail. Shear will be strongest across Maryland and eastern Virginia...and a few
supercells will be possible with large hail.
1027. spathy
Quoting VR46L:


I wont post the shower curtain version lol


Link


Thanks vr4
I keep forgetting where those things are.
968 Tropicsweatherpr:

Lessee 6 plus 8 plus 27 plus 34 plus 17 plus 5 equals 97
So 6% of 97% is about 1 June NamedStorm out of every 16 NamedStorms from June thru November.
We had 2 Named storms in June, so we can expect 32 NamedStorms between the end of May and the beginning of December.
The averages are agin us! Could be worse I s'pose...
... 3% of the Named Storms take place before June and after November: ie 1 in about 33 named storms.
Had 2 NamedStorms in May. Sose it could be 66 NamedStorms in the Atlantic during 2012.

1030. VR46L
Quoting spathy:


Thanks vr4
I keep forgetting where those things are.


Your welcome Spathy
Quoting PlazaRed:

A possible course in English grammar and spelling might be advantageous!
Added to the above, you might request her advise on any local issues, plus her general background interests so as you can research them on the Internet or better still with us here, (Much more fun,) Start by being intrigued by her knowledge of all things you are not too sure about and freely compliment her on her local knowledge, ( bound to work wonders,)
The main thing is not to appear too confident and ask advise on your theories.
Always bear in mind that the future of humanity is in your hands!

Whats happening with those wild fires out in the mid west area of the US? We have got some of several thousands of acres here in southern Europe and thousands of people have been evacuated in the Valencia area of Spain. Thing are so bad they are showing up clearly on the satellite photos here.


Yeah I suck at English... Always have... And great advice, I will take that under advisement.


Uh Oh Not Good... Just west of where I live too...
Quoting Grothar:
Sorry if I posted that twice. It is after 3AM here. What do you expect!!!

If its 3am where you are then you must be in Eastern Europe as its not quite 3 am here yet and the ever attendant and intuitive Hydrus saw it before me as I'm a bit weary here too.
Are you on a sabbatical to the Eastern states or just flying over our zone?
A lot of smoke in the European air at the moment as fires are beginning to take control of lots of mountainous areas and no rain in sight of course.
Temps from 90 to 105/F in Spain this week and quite a lot of wind in the south to fan the flames.
We had a nice shelf cloud before the wimpy storms.

1035. hydrus
This could be interesting.

SEL2

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 452
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
905 PM EDT SUN JUL 1 2012

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

EASTERN KENTUCKY
WESTERN MARYLAND
WESTERN AND SOUTHWESTERN VIRGINIA
EASTERN WEST VIRGINIA INCLUDING THE EASTERN PANHANDLE

EFFECTIVE THIS SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING FROM 905 PM UNTIL
200 AM EDT.

HAIL TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 70
MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 80
STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 50 MILES WEST
NORTHWEST OF MARTINSBURG WEST VIRGINIA TO 60 MILES SOUTHWEST OF
BLUEFIELD WEST VIRGINIA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH
SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU2).

REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE
FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY
DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 445...WW 446...WW
447...WW 448...WW 449...WW 450...WW 451...

DISCUSSION...SEVERAL CLUSTERS OF THUNDERSTORMS ARE SPREADING ACROSS
EASTERN KY/WESTERN WV AND EASTERN OH...PRODUCING LOCALLY DAMAGING
WINDS AND HAIL. THESE STORMS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE WW AREA THROUGH
THE MID-LATE EVENING. AS USUAL...THERE IS UNCERTAINTY WHETHER
STORMS CAN MAINTAIN INTENSITY AS THEY MOVE ACROSS THE APPALACHIAN
MOUNTAINS INTO WESTERN VA. HOWEVER...MODERATE INSTABILITY AND A
SUBTLE SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE AREA SUGGEST THE
POTENTIAL THAT STORMS WILL PERSIST FOR SEVERAL MORE HOURS.

AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT
TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60
KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 500. MEAN STORM
MOTION VECTOR 30035.


...HART
Wind:


Hail:

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
We had a nice shelf cloud before the wimpy storms.


Nice cloud. How is everyone coping with the high heat? Staying nicely hydrated or planning a holiday to Sydney?


Looks like a nice storm complex moving through the NE CONUS. Stay safe.
1039. Grothar
Quoting VR46L:


Are you in mainland Europe ? because you are an hour ahead of me


Where are you?
1040. hydrus
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Uh Oh Not Good... Just west of where I live too...
I worry for the folks who have damage and no power. Not to mention I have relatives in Richmond.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Nice cloud. How is everyone coping with the high heat? Staying nicely hydrated or planning a holiday to Sydney?

Staying inside lol.
Reminds me of Friday... The mets were saying they thought it would weaken but then it didn't...
Quoting reedzone:


Here's the thing... Beryl in 2006 developed off a mass of convection that came off of North Carolina... Current wind shear is 5-10 knots off the East Coast... If this persists, we may need to watch for tropical development.
Hope it develops into Ernesto.
Quoting VR46L:


I wont post the shower curtain version lol


You know what would be cool though?

If they made shower curtains with the image posted on them.

Weather geeks the world over would have to have them.

Happy Birthday Grothar. Nice and quiet on my side of Florida tonight, anyway.

1046. Grothar
Quoting reedzone:


Here's the thing... Beryl in 2006 developed off a mass of convection that came off of North Carolina... Current wind shear is 5-10 knots off the East Coast... If this persists, we may need to watch for tropical development.


I remember you called that one. I remember we were watching a blob cross the country and it moved over into the Atlantic. (but I saw it first.:P)
Pictures I took from Friday's derecho.




Anybody here?
Quoting Ameister12:
Anybody here?

Yep, I'm here. A balmy 58.3°F after an overnight low of 39°F.
Ah stick'in great another nasty line of storms coming my way...
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
Wind:


Hail:

What day is that for?.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Yep, I'm here. A balmy 58.3°F after an overnight low of 39°F.

Hey, Aussie. How you doing?
995 WxGeekVA: ...this girl I met at weather camp last year at Penn State. I wish she didn't live halfway across the country...
1011 WxGeekVA: I'm going out stormchasing next spring there, so I want to hang with her then. I hope it works out, I like everything about her. Sucks I only got to hang for a week last time.

Just remember, "...brains... I want your brains... brains..." ain't a good pickup line.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, so I'll post it again. I found it funny.

Quoting Ameister12:

Hey, Aussie. How you doing?

other than cold, drinking a cuppa tea, also looking after 3 kids as it's school holidays and dealing with to many health problems, I'm 100% perfect.

How are you?
Quoting aspectre:
995 WxGeekVA: ...this girl I met at weather camp last year at Penn State. I wish she didn't live halfway across the country...
1011 WxGeekVA: I'm going out stormchasing next spring there, so I want to hang with her then. I hope it works out, I like everything about her. Sucks I only got to hang for a week last time.

Just remember, "Brains. I want your brains. Brains..." ain't a good pickup line.


Unless you're a zombie.. and I think I see what you did there...
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Not sure if this has been posted yet, so I'll post it again. I found it funny.



I'm going to guess 634/49 for Wednesday. The GFS Ensembles agree with me.

Quoting aspectre:
995 WxGeekVA: ...this girl I met at weather camp last year at Penn State. I wish she didn't live halfway across the country...
1011 WxGeekVA: I'm going out stormchasing next spring there, so I want to hang with her then. I hope it works out, I like everything about her. Sucks I only got to hang for a week last time.

Just remember, "Brains. I want your brains. Brains..." ain't a good pickup line.
and remember: whenever you see a really hot girl...some guy somewhere is just sick of her crap
Quoting presslord:

and remember: whenever you see a really hot girl...some guy somewhere is just sick of her crap

speaking from experience?
When you coming to pick up this 1.125L of Jim Beam Black, it won't drink itself.
Quoting AussieStorm:

other than cold, drinking a cuppa tea, also looking after 3 kids as it's school holidays and dealing with to many health problems, I'm 100% perfect.

How are you?

Health problems? That's fantastic (sarcasm). Well, It's been extremely hot and the rain we got today and Friday isn't helping, so I've been cooped up in my house all week and I'm bored. Typical summer in Ohio.
Quoting aspectre:
995 WxGeekVA: ...this girl I met at weather camp last year at Penn State. I wish she didn't live halfway across the country...
1011 WxGeekVA: I'm going out stormchasing next spring there, so I want to hang with her then. I hope it works out, I like everything about her. Sucks I only got to hang for a week last time.

Just remember, "Brains. I want your brains. Brains..." ain't a good pickup line.


That's an AWESOME pickup line. It would have worked on me! (I'm a girl-geek.) @WxGeekVA, give it a shot.

Here in Eugene, Oregon, we have 68F and yet more drizzle. That's rotten weather for making hay, which I badly need. But after reading about the heat and storms back East, I'm not kvetching about the drizzle. Besides, cool temps and a little drizzle are not bad for the Track and Field Olympic Trials, which are finishing up right now.
Quoting AussieStorm:

speaking from experience?
When you coming to pick up this 1.125L of Jim Beam Black, it won't drink itself.


soon...pinned down at the moment by horrile lightening
Quoting DataPilot:


That's an AWESOME pickup line. It would have worked on me! (I'm a girl-geek.) @WxGeekVA, give it a shot.

Here in Eugene, Oregon, we have 68F and yet more drizzle. That's rotten weather for making hay, which I badly need. But after reading about the heat and storms back East, I'm not kvetching about the drizzle. Besides, cool temps and a little drizzle are not bad for the Track and Field Olympic Trials, which are finishing up right now.


Kvetching? Seriously?

*slow clap*
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Uh Oh Not Good... Just west of where I live too...






I'm right in the middle, hoping for the best. They don't look quite as bad as Friday's storms. I just read a report of a confirmed downburst 30 yards wide and one mile wide, with winds at 100 mph near Reedsville WV. We really don't need a repeat.
Does anybody know what date that is for the server weather event in comment 1037.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Does anybody know what date that is for the server weather event in comment 1037.


Unfortunately, that's for tonight, after midnight. Here it comes again: (
Quoting goosegirl1:


Unfortunately, that's for tonight, after midnight. Here it comes again: (


Sorry, forgot to say check on noaa.gov severe storm page to get more info.
Quoting goosegirl1:


Unfortunately, that's for tonight, after midnight. Here it comes again: (
Wha?.Noooooooooo.People can't go through this again.Nature..I'm starting to hate you...
Can anybody say... doom?

Quoting KoritheMan:
Can anybody say... doom?


Nope. Nobody can.


It looks weaker, but Friday's did too for a while. I'll be watching it as it goes over the mountains.
1074. jpritch
Hail from a couple of hours ago in Chillicothe, Ohio.
Me and hubby have been busy all afternoon long.We've taken some neighbors that don't have power to cooling centers(Lucky I have a van).Hopefully power is restored to them soon.
That's big hail...
Quoting washingtonian115:
Me and hubby have been busy all afternoon long.We've taken some neighbors that don't have power to cooling centers(Lucky I have a van).Hopefully power is restored to them soon.


How considerate of you. :)
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Happy Birthday Gro...



*lol* Good one Geoffrey....and a Happy b'day to you, Grothar!!

Other than two 50-drop showers today, my mango tree is dropping more fruit than water.

We could really handle some decent rain over here.

Lindy
Quoting KoritheMan:
Can anybody say... doom?


Doom.

It's Grothar's bday?

Happy... how many does this make? Is three trillion a fair estimate?
Quoting KoritheMan:


How considerate of you. :)
When it comes to disasters like this as a community we have to pull together.That's what makes us better in the future.Americans have always pulled together in these types of situations.It's the american spirit.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Doom.



Imagine the ACE such a storm would have.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Imagine the ACE such a storm would have.

103.76 units.
Quoting washingtonian115:
When it comes to disasters like this as a community we have to pull together.That's what makes us better in the future.Americans have always pulled together in these types of situations.It's the american spirit.


If I get an opportunity to chase a major hurricane this year (Debby sucked), I will make sure to help the victims in any way I can. I think I'd go home feeling guilty otherwise.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Doom.


1.7 trillion dollars in damage? Holy @!*%!
Man what the heck?

Are we going to get ANOTHER land-cane move off shore and become tropical over the next few days?

Hard to imagine the mass of convection moving through Georgia and the Carolinas NOT holding together over land and water.

Speaking of which, it's approaching the flood zones from Florida's experience with Debby, and has isolated 3 and 4 inch per hour rainfall rates...
Three killed already in that NC storm.
Quoting Ameister12:

1.7 trillion dollars in damage? Holy @!*%!

If that storm came to fruition, it would probably be higher than that.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

If that storm came to fruition, it would probably be higher than that.


WAY higher.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Doom.



Semi-realistic scenario circa 2100 after a few degrees worth of AGW...
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

If that storm came to fruition, it would probably be higher than that.

Oh! Yeah it would! O_O
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Doom.

OMG that would truly be an epic disaster. which name did you put to that storm ?
Fema would be like, "Sorry folks, move to Alaska...that's where we're going."
Quoting RTSplayer:
Fema would be like, "Sorry folks, move to Alaska...that's where we're going."


Funny thing is, that would probably actually happen.
Quoting allancalderini:
OMG that would truly be an epic disaster. which name did you put to that storm ?

Marvin.
Quoting WxGeekVA:
Reminds me of Friday... The mets were saying they thought it would weaken but then it didn't...


I wasn't really expecting it to weaken. Typically with storms that come from the west... they start off strong but when they pass over the mountains they significantly weaken but once they pass over the Blue Ridge and into the western Peidmont they being to reintensify and by the time they reach I-95 they may be severe. I was never expecting a weak line. I do not want to deal with another storm... done with it.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Marvin.


Chuck Norris
1099. hahaguy
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Marvin.


Sounds about right.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Not sure if this has been posted yet, so I'll post it again. I found it funny.



Haha that's Aaron Justus from CBS 6 in Richmond VA. I actually know him personally and he never takes himself too seriously. He does have a sense of humor but a great meteorologist. He did this the last day of working at that station last summer. He now lives in San Diego.

I wonder how he held himself together throughout the whole thing.
Quoting hahaguy:


Sounds about right.


Evening, Brian. Good to see a familiar face. I hope you are doing well.

Quoting tropicfreak:


I wonder how he held himself together throughout the whole thing.
That's what I want to know. I don't think I could do it. XD
Global Change Observation Mission 1st - Water "SHIZUKU" (GCOM-W1) Inserted into A-Train Orbit
July 2, 2012 (JST)
Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)

Press Release July 2, 2012 Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency Global Change Observation Mission 1st - Water "SHIZUKU" (GCOM-W1) Inserted into A-Train Orbit The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) confirmed that the Global Change Observation Mission 1st - Water "SHIZUKU" (GCOM-W1) was inserted into a planned position on the A-Train orbit as a result of orbit control performed on June 29, 2012. The SHIZUKU was launched from the Tanegashima Space Center at 1:39 p.m. on May 18, 2012.

The SHIZUKU is flying in front of the Aqua satellite, thus it takes the most front position in the A-Train until another National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) satellite, OCO-2 (USA) joins the constellation.

We have received a welcome message from Dr. Michael Freilich, Earth Science Division Director, of the NASA, as follows: "We are pleased to welcome JAXA and SHIZUKU as a member of the international A-Train constellation. The merging and sharing of data from multiple A-Train satellites has already led to significant advances in atmospheric science, and the addition of the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer 2 (AMSR2) dataset will be an important extension of the A-Train's scientific capabilities."

.........
GCOM-W carries the AMSR2 (Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer 2), an instrument to observe water-related targets such as precipitation, water vapor, sea surface wind speed, sea surface temperature, soil moisture, and snow depth.
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f21/overview/shizuku _e.html


.........

I hope this means we may have another "SCAT" type of data available

Quoting KoritheMan:
Can anybody say... doom?



Probably not doom, but inconvenience,
Quoting KoritheMan:
Can anybody say... doom?



Maybe not doom, but noise, inconvenience, no power or water, no air conditioning in a heat wave.... I need to stop complaining, at least we will get some rain. Many are wishing for that tonight. We really are complacent in the mid-Atlantic, as we don't often see severe storms so we tend not to handle them very well. The town I work in did not lose power this weekend, but we did lose internet service so businesses were unable to process debit and credit cards. I was surprised at the number of people who came 50 miles into Romney to get gas and supplies, then have to move on because they didn't have cash. I kept thinking "they need to read the checklists for hurricane preparedness on Wunderground! "

Quoting WxGeekVA:


Chuck Norris



It'd be so bad, they'd retire the letter from the alphabet.

"We shall never use any names beginning with 'anyletter' again."
Quoting KoritheMan:

That's what I want to know. I don't think I could do it. XD


I miss him as a met here in Central VA. The CBS 6 weather team has always been awesome! They aren't conservative but they aren't aggressive either with their forecasts.

Quoting goosegirl1:


Probably not doom, but inconvenience,


Aw come on. It's more fun to say doom and you know it! :|
1108. hahaguy
Quoting KoritheMan:


Evening, Brian. Good to see a familiar face. I hope you are doing well.


Good to see you too Kori. All is well here.
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Global Change Observation Mission 1st - Water "SHIZUKU" (GCOM-W1) Inserted into A-Train Orbit
July 2, 2012 (JST)
Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)

Press Release July 2, 2012 Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency Global Change Observation Mission 1st - Water "SHIZUKU" (GCOM-W1) Inserted into A-Train Orbit The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) confirmed that the Global Change Observation Mission 1st - Water "SHIZUKU" (GCOM-W1) was inserted into a planned position on the A-Train orbit as a result of orbit control performed on June 29, 2012. The SHIZUKU was launched from the Tanegashima Space Center at 1:39 p.m. on May 18, 2012.

 The SHIZUKU is flying in front of the Aqua satellite, thus it takes the most front position in the A-Train until another National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) satellite, OCO-2 (USA) joins the constellation.

 We have received a welcome message from Dr. Michael Freilich, Earth Science Division Director, of the NASA, as follows: "We are pleased to welcome JAXA and SHIZUKU as a member of the international A-Train constellation. The merging and sharing of data from multiple A-Train satellites has already led to significant advances in atmospheric science, and the addition of the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer 2 (AMSR2) dataset will be an important extension of the A-Train's scientific capabilities."

.........

What do you make of this Caicos? Also Koritheman, I believe we'll need your input here as well...

Quoting kipperedherring:
What do you make of this Caicos? Also Koritheman, I believe we'll need your input here as well...
Sounds every bit positive. I'm all for scientific advancement.
Quoting tropicfreak:


I wasn't really expecting it to weaken. Typically with storms that come from the west... they start off strong but when they pass over the mountains they significantly weaken but once they pass over the Blue Ridge and into the western Peidmont they being to reintensify and by the time they reach I-95 they may be severe. I was never expecting a weak line. I do not want to deal with another storm... done with it.


That's the normal pattern, but it's not all that uncommon for derechos to hold together thru the mountains, especially in late June/early July. This heat is helping provide fuel as well. Stay safe everyone, maybe this one will just bring some cool air and rain.
I got the perfect alibi for the NHC's repeatedly busted forecast with Debby, although it doesn't apply to people such as myself and Levi who screwed up.


All NHC needs to do now is blame the Republicans and Tea Party in congress for cutting funding to the NWS.

They could say something like this:

"We weren't able to make the best forecast because we didn't have the funds to do the missions we would liked to do to collect the best data. This is all the Tea Party's fault."
Quoting KoritheMan:

Aw come on. It's more fun to say doom and you know it! :|


Ok, I'll try it... DOOOOOM!
1115. nigel20
Good evening everyone!

Antilles radar
The storms eventually caused 250,000 ComEd customers to lose power and more than 60 kayakers had to be rescued from the Chicago River. By 8:45 p.m., 155,000 customers were still without power.

Nearly 200 calls of fallen trees and branches poured into Chicago’s 911 center, along with 50 calls of downed wires and 35 street light outages.
BRB.

I'm going to go see who's having a heart attack right now on TWC...
1118. DDR
Good evening nigel
i like the barbados radar more :)
Quoting nigel20:
Good evening everyone!

Antilles radar


Hows your weather. Weather here is nice. between 61.0F and 87.3F
Quoting KoritheMan:

Sounds every bit positive. I'm all for scientific advancement.
I hope you're right, I sincerely do. For me, I can't shake a feeling of strong foreboding about this whole thing...
Nevermind.

They aren't even covering the severe weather. They are too interested in the regularly scheduled programming.

"We are sorry, but if you want to know the weather, look outside. lol. We're a news and documentary show now." - spox...
Quoting RTSplayer:
Nevermind.

They aren't even covering the severe weather. They are too interested in the regularly scheduled programming.

"We are sorry, but if you want to know the weather, look outside. lol. We're a news and documentary show now." - spox...

Have you noticed there is no way to contact them?

Quoting goosegirl1:


Ok, I'll try it... DOOOOOM!
There. Was that hard?
Quoting RTSplayer:
I got the perfect alibi for the NHC's repeatedly busted forecast with Debby, although it doesn't apply to people such as myself and Levi who screwed up.


All NHC needs to do now is blame the Republicans and Tea Party in congress for cutting funding to the NWS.

They could say something like this:

"We weren't able to make the best forecast because we didn't have the funds to do the missions we would liked to do to collect the best data. This is all the Tea Party's fault."


or screw the euro in favor of the GFS physics upgrades ;)

Quoting kipperedherring:
I hope you're right, I sincerely do. For me, I can't shake a feeling of strong foreboding about this whole thing...
Foreboding of what?
1126. nigel20
Quoting DDR:
Good evening nigel
i like the barbados radar more :)

Hey DDR...agreed.
here you go...

Quoting PedleyCA:


Hows your weather. Weather here is nice. between 61.0F and 87.3F

Hey Pedley...it is still pretty hot and dry in the eastern section of Jamaica though we had some light showers today, but it still wasn't enough to lift the water restrictions.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Chuck Norris

Nope, not worthy of my name. Not bad though.
if there's any "good" news about tonight's severe weather it's that most of it appears to be Derecho-style straight line winds, rather than tornadic, rotating cells.

I doubt that'll be any consolation to anyone who has a tree fall on their house or car.

this is pretty epic in Georgia and S. Carolina, and otherwise very widespread in other parts of the S.E states.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Have you noticed there is no way to contact them?


Link
Quoting AussieStorm:

Yep, I'm here. A balmy 58.3°F after an overnight low of 39°F.



Balmy? That's downright cold...
Quoting KoritheMan:

Foreboding of what?
I only hope Caicos will be able to respond, I felt as if 1000's of souls cried out at once and were silenced, there's a strong disturbance in the force with this ...
Quoting RTSplayer:


Semi-realistic scenario circa 2100 after a few degrees worth of AGW...


30 inch per hour rain rates, 1000 mph tornadoes and 500 mph hurricanes, 11.9 trillion volt lightning strikes that vaporize buildings...
1131:

Mighty convenient that this system covered the entire state of Georgia in moderate to heavy rains, just in time to bust the droughts, now isn't it?

Makes you think about whether our government's weather control experiments have become more successful than we'd been led to believe...

Perhaps "Debby" was meant to come here, but the system didn't have quite enough control...so now they sent a second attempt...


Watching and waiting...
Quoting Jedkins01:



Balmy? That's downright cold...


Bet a lot of people would line up for some of that weather right now.
Quoting KoritheMan:

There. Was that hard?


Not at all :) It's starting to thunder, so I may have need to say it again tonight.
Quoting RTSplayer:
1131:

Mighty convenient that this system covered the entire state of Georgia in moderate to heavy rains, just in time to bust the droughts, now isn't it?

Makes you think about whether our government's weather control experiments have become more successful than we'd been led to believe...

Perhaps "Debby" was meant to come here, but the system didn't have quite enough control...so now they sent a second attempt...


Oh, so the government controls the weather?

Please enlighten me on why then they let a derecho badly damage parts of the Washington DC area.

Quoting WxGeekVA:


Oh, so the government controls the weather?

Please enlighten me on why then they let a derecho badly damage parts of the Washington DC area.
It was a demonstration of power to show the station is fully operational...
Quoting PedleyCA:


Bet a lot of people would line up for some of that weather right now.


No thanks, I'll take my 90's in Florida...
RTS your really on to something. The Weather Channel could run a little caption on the bottom. Severe Weather is going on somewhere, please look out your window for further updates. Enjoy your regularly scheduled programming.
1142. 7544
hmmmm how far south can this mess go looks to be moving due south at a good clip anyone know
Link
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Oh, so the government controls the weather?

Please enlighten me on why then they let a derecho badly damage parts of the Washington DC area.


1) My post implies only partial control.

2) The government doesn't care if a tree falls on grandma's house. They do care if a drought causes hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in damages to crops, livestock, reservoirs, or other economic assets. One billion saved > ten million lost, at least when only dollars matter.

3) I believe the HAARP facility is known to operate at least one device that uses EM to try to modify the motions of high and low pressure systems, as do several other countries have such facilities, including Russia. They have been developing this technology for decades going back to the heart of the cold war.
Quoting kipperedherring:
It was a demonstration of power to show the station is fully operational...


That's no moon...

Quoting RTSplayer:


1) My post implies only partial control.

2) The government doesn't care if a tree falls on grandma's house. They do care if a drought causes hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in damages to crops, livestock, reservoirs, or other economic assets. One billion saved > ten million lost, at least when only dollars matter.


Well from what I can tell there is several tens of millions maybe 100 million dollars of damage in my county alone, so I'm guessing dollars are going to matter in this case. It might even have a chance of being a billion dollar disaster by the end of all of the cleanup.
Quoting RTSplayer:


1) My post implies only partial control.

2) The government doesn't care if a tree falls on grandma's house. They do care if a drought causes hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in damages to crops, livestock, reservoirs, or other economic assets. One billion saved > ten million lost, at least when only dollars matter.


Tell me, do you even have an ounce of evidence that it is possible or is occurring, or do you at least have a decent argument? Common man, let me guess, they also have anti-gravity and light sabers too, or they are secretly planning to terraform mars?

Don't get sucked into that stuff...
I guess their thinking at the TWC is that they've been covering it most the day and it has calmed down quite a bit. Line moving into the Virginia and West Virginia hasn't been informed of this yet though. Almost 1000 reports again by the time this is done. Tomorrow going to be more, where's it going today watching. Hope if the Carolina's get a repeat it's not as strong as today's storms. Chicago straight line wind event topped out at ninety mph. No injuries reported, so that was lucky.
This is the last derecho the DC area had back in 2008, June 4th. I remember it because we lost power for 3 days and I got off from school because of it.

Anyway, the relevance of the HAARP facility was crucial to the Cold War and other "Regime Change" war situations.

If you can control the weather, at least partially, then you can plan and execute military strikes more effectively, particularly Navy and Air Force maneuvers, or if you get enough control, you could use the Weather itself as a weapon...eventually...

Other countries could be doing this stuff to US right now, for all we know...
Quoting Jedkins01:


No thanks, I'll take my 90's in Florida...


90's are OK, I can deal with those. It is all this other freak weather, flooding and Derechos. Just don't need all the destruction. I am glad we don't have any of that out on the West Coast.

Quoting RTSplayer:
1131:

Mighty convenient that this system covered the entire state of Georgia in moderate to heavy rains, just in time to bust the droughts, now isn't it?

Makes you think about whether our government's weather control experiments have become more successful than we'd been led to believe...

Perhaps "Debby" was meant to come here, but the system didn't have quite enough control...so now they sent a second attempt...
Normally I find your posts highly informative and logical. But now you're stooping to baseless conjecture? Seriously dude, you're better than this.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Oh, so the government controls the weather?

Please enlighten me on why then they let a derecho badly damage parts of the Washington DC area.



They have to allow some damage to their area to not make it obvious, you know, the old self destruction excuse ;)


'tis another good one related to the heat and crazy storms.
Quoting PedleyCA:


90's are OK, I can deal with those. It is all this other freak weather, flooding and Derechos. Just don't need all the destruction. I am glad we don't have any of that out on the West Coast.


Down here in Florida we don't really get much of what's known as a derecho, because it requires a large expanse of continental air mass, and a lot of cold air aloft atop a very hot surface, oh and strong winds above the surface too. Although I have seen a lot of severe thunderstorms do damage around here, we had an 80+ mph gust even last spring and another one a couple years ago in the summer that tore this area up pretty good, but they aren't widespread lines like a derecho.
Quoting Jedkins01:


Tell me, do you even have an ounce of evidence that it is possible or is occurring, or do you at least have a decent argument? Common man, let me guess, they also have anti-gravity and light sabers too, or they are secretly planning to terraform mars?

Don't get sucked into that stuff...



Check here
Quoting WxGeekVA:


'tis another good one related to the heat and crazy storms.



I'm pretty sure Satan payed a visit to the Tampa Bay area last Sunday too. Heck we already had 6 or 7 tornadoes touch down in the area before the SPC finally sluggishly caught up and issued a tornado watch. Thankfully the NWS here did great and was all over the severe threat even though the SPC failed to see the event coming despite ridiculous helicity setting up over us Saturday night and Sunday morning. That was the first time I've ever came across freshly done tornado damage while driving around n the storm, only 2 miles from my house, crazy day indeed.
Quoting RTSplayer:


1) My post implies only partial control.

2) The government doesn't care if a tree falls on grandma's house. They do care if a drought causes hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in damages to crops, livestock, reservoirs, or other economic assets. One billion saved > ten million lost, at least when only dollars matter.

3) I believe the HAARP facility is known to operate at least one device that uses EM to try to modify the motions of high and low pressure systems, as do several other countries have such facilities, including Russia. They have been developing this technology for decades going back to the heart of the cold war.


Lordy, I better scamper to the kitchen to make a new tin foil hat!
Quoting Jedkins01:


They have to allow some damage to their area to not make it obvious, you know, the old self destruction excuse ;)

Jedkins01, you are indeed wise in the ways of the force...
1158. nigel20
Eastern Tropical Atlantic
Wxgeek, washingtonian and points east toward the capitol- the storm has arrived, without the same wind as two days ago. Still lots of beautiful lightening! Expect it over the next 2 hours or so.
Quoting KoritheMan:

Normally I find your posts highly informative and logical. But now you're stooping to baseless conjecture? Seriously dude, you're better than this.


Yes, I am, thanks, but I'm a tad bored.

Just think, if they declassified all the cold ware era stealth spy planes and bombs, what is the "classified" stuff now?

Only thing that's left is:

Cloaking fields
weather control
"stable" anti-matter
zero point
time travel

Take your pick.

The most likely things to actually exist are cloaking fields and weather control.

Military grade lasers and rail guns aren't even classified....
Quoting goosegirl1:


Lordy, I better scamper to the kitchen to make a new tin foil hat!


Won't help...
1162. nigel20
Quoting nigel20:
Eastern Tropical Atlantic


That about 2 to 3hrs old
1164. nigel20
Quoting Tazmanian:


That about 2 to 3hrs old

I know, but the image will update automatically.
Good Night All - Stay Safe - Sleep Well
1166. nigel20
Quoting PedleyCA:
Good Night All - Stay Safe - Sleep Well

Same to you Pedley!
We can't even build a model that can perfectly project weather 24 hours away yet we can control entire weather systems? Thats a stretch...
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
We can't even build a model that can perfectly project weather 24 hours away yet we can control entire weather systems? Thats a stretch...


Never said that.

Redirect and possibly slightly modify intensity? Definitely.

Total control? No way.
Quoting RTSplayer:


Never said that.

Redirect and possibly slightly modify intensity? Definitely.

Total control? No way.


Using?
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Using?


Directed energy weapons.
1171. DDR
Nigel,you have water restrictions in Jamaica?
I didn't know that it was this bad.
RTS you know HARRP is just a bunch of antennas for science study. It's not militarized or anything like that. Our government would never do that. Russia and China rushing to try to gain same technology because of it's extreme implications (like all the birds and fish dying instantly seemingly in the same area down south couple years back). I respect everyone's opinions who say HARRP is not what RTS is trying to show, but I really want to do a face palm right now. To each their own. I hope people will truly seek though, and make an informed decision. Real easy to say, Conspiracy Theorist! We're programmed in America to instantly discredit conspiracy theories and most don't even know that's the case.
Hey folks. Went to sleep at 11:00; warm muggy day with no rain and heard some noise that woke me up. Wind was howling outside. Sudden line of t-storms popped up in Southern GA and headed into North Florida.

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
1153 PM EDT SUN JUL 1 2012

AT 1152 PM EDT...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS DETECTED A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THESE STORMS WERE LOCATED ALONG A LINE EXTENDING
FROM 34 MILES NORTHEAST OF CHATTAHOOCHEE TO 13 MILES NORTHEAST OF MONTICELLO...OR ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM HARRELLS STILL TO GROOVERVILLE...AND MOVING SOUTHWEST AT 25 MPH.


Nothing like the weather experienced in other parts of the US but totally unexpected this evening.
Another active SW day tomorrow, it's no fun, but at least many areas that needed rain badly have gotten it the last two days. At quite a cost though. Another five hundred reports maybe again tomorrow, if we're lucky. Just lovely.
1175. nigel20
Quoting DDR:
Nigel,you have water restrictions in Jamaica?
I didn't know that it was this bad.

Yes, especially in the eastern end of the island. The capital city (Kingston) is suffering the most...it's a town of over 600,000 people. We usually received quite a bit of rain between May and June, but it has been pretty dry over the said period.
Really cool watching it roll down towards the house but gonna turn the computer off. Will let you know in the am what the deal was. Good Night.....)
1177. DDR
Quoting nigel20:

Yes, especially in the eastern end of the island. The capital city (Kingston) is suffering the most...it's a town of over 600,000 people. We usually received quite a bit of rain between May and June, but it has been pretty dry over the said period.
That's bad and with predictions of el nino,even worse.We've had an average season so far but im expecting below average rainfall here as el nino advances.
1178. nigel20
Quoting DDR:
That's bad and with predictions of el nino,even worse.We've had an average season so far but im expecting below average rainfall here as el nino advances.

Agreed.
Any sign development may come from the destructive land blob over the Carolina's today? They were the most intense storms of the day outside of Chicago's wind event of 90mph which was bye bye electricity for over six figures again. How many people have lost power in the SE today?
Just under 800 reports now for the day. Finally winding down although entire line moving into NC is still severe and may make it to the coast but hopefully won't be severe for much longer.
Quoting RTSplayer:
if there's any "good" news about tonight's severe weather it's that most of it appears to be Derecho-style straight line winds, rather than tornadic, rotating cells.

I doubt that'll be any consolation to anyone who has a tree fall on their house or car.

this is pretty epic in Georgia and S. Carolina, and otherwise very widespread in other parts of the S.E states.
"Epic" is 3.5 million without power via a non-tropical windstorm event, striking Washington, D.C. at roughly midnight on 6/30/2012.

Today, Maryland's governor made the excuse on CNN's State of the Union, that "Unlike a polite hurricane that gives you three days of warning, this storm gave us all the impact of a hurricane without any of the warning,"

As a result, I suspect that instead of a week to get the power back on, it will be at least two weeks for most residents of the harder hit areas. My sincere and heartfelt concern go out to all those who are feeling the record heat in their darkened homes.

However, I disagree with Maryland's governor, because if someone smart in civil authority had bothered to look at my disaster forecast for Washington, D.C., published on March 5th of this year, they might have been better prepared for an event of this type and magnitude. Arguably, the what and the where were pretty obvious, and given my past writings(13 January 2012 - Post 24) about this city and the surrounding area, the when could have been suspected, as well.

Make no mistake, it's a weather forecast, and at the very end; at the very moment you suddenly recognize or suspect what you're looking at, the illumination of the city changes. Perhaps it's because there aren't any lines attached ...?







That sucks. SPC expecting identical weather tomorrow for same areas. SC more than NC. and risk moves from Northern Indiana and Northern Ohio down to Southern Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia and West Virginia. This is going to be quite the run and the heat today was just as sickening. 127 humidity close to ncstorm before the storms moved in. Unreal. Be back later to see if anyone's around to chat.
I say that ther NHC should had at least put a yellow circle in the Eastern Pacific ocean.
1184. nigel20
Stay safe everyone...I'm off to bed!
Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
"Epic" is 3.5 million without power via a non-tropical windstorm event, striking Washington, D.C. at roughly midnight on 6/30/2012.

Today, Maryland's governor made the excuse on CNN's State of the Union, that "Unlike a polite hurricane that gives you three days of warning, this storm gave us all the impact of a hurricane without any of the warning,"

As a result, I suspect that instead of a week to get the power back on, it will be at least two weeks for most residents of the harder hit areas. My sincere and heartfelt concern go out to all those who are feeling the record heat in their darkened homes.

However, I disagree with Maryland's governor, because if someone smart in civil authority had bothered to look at my disaster forecast for Washington, D.C., published on March 5th of this year, they might have been better prepared for an event of this type and magnitude. Arguably, the what and the where were pretty obvious, and given my past writings(13 January 2012 - Post 24) about this city and the surrounding area, the when could have been suspected, as well.

Make no mistake, it's a weather forecast, and at the very end; at the very moment you suddenly recognize or suspect what you're looking at, the illumination of the city changes. Perhaps it's because there aren't any lines attached ...?









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Weather that hit the SE so hard today really looking like it's trying to rush to the Gulf. I know what's over Southern Georgia and Northern Florida is forecast to move east but been on a southern trajectory for awhile now. Peaked my curiosity.
Looking at radar this is going to eject with severe conditions attached and mid level circulation. Headed through the panhandle now and out to the N.E Gulf headed South West.
Wrong way storm on our hands?
Comment 1154 has a nice link of information. A good read and it's short.
Quoting Tribucanes:
Looking at radar this is going to eject with severe conditions attached and mid level circulation. Headed through the panhandle now and out to the N.E Gulf headed South West.

That's the strangest thing I have seen in a while. Just looked at it on high resolution radar!
1191. VR46L
Quoting HurricanePookie:


You know what would be cool though?

If they made shower curtains with the image posted on them.

Weather geeks the world over would have to have them.

Happy Birthday Grothar. Nice and quiet on my side of Florida tonight, anyway.




LOL


awesome first sunight views..
kinda cool low near the Azores
My next 7 days weather here in Sydney, Australia.

Anyone want to swap houses, I prefer hot weather.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:

awesome first sunight views..
kinda cool low near the Azores










Quoting AussieStorm:












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Quoting Tribucanes:
Looking at radar this is going to eject with severe conditions attached and mid level circulation. Headed through the panhandle now and out to the N.E Gulf headed South West.

It's going the right way - to Texas - if it can survive the traipse through the high pressure.

That pinball about to eject out of Africa looks like it means business. Probably a yellow crayon by 2pm.
Shrews Rapidly Evolving in Response to Climate Change



Shrews are among a diverse group of small mammals that have rapidly evolved in response to climate change, according to a new study released this month. Using historical climate data and modern molecular evidence from multiple genes, scientists found that some shrew species respond positively to periods of warmer and wetter climate through expanding geographic ranges and increased population sizes, while other shrew species respond the same way during periods of colder and drier climate.

The smallest mammals, such as mice and shrews, can reproduce rapidly yielding many generations of offspring in a short period of time. Because of this, they evolve comparatively quickly and as such are useful for studying how species in general respond to environmental changes. In addition, unlike many birds and larger mammals, they are non-migratory and thus exhibit both ecological and evolutionary responses to local conditions year-round. Shrews were therefore perfect model organisms to test predictions about the influence of historical climate change on resident species in the Arctic.


"Evolutionary adaptation is driven by necessity, favored by large gene pools, and accelerated by short intervals to reproductive maturity," said USGS Director Marcia McNutt. "All of these factors make shrews the ideal organism for examining genetic adaptation to climate change, understanding which is critical to helping manage wildlife in the decades ahead."

Climatic changes over the last 350 thousand years have caused dramatic environmental shifts at high latitudes. For example, glacial cold phases lasting approximately 75 thousand years were interspersed with warmer periods lasting 20 thousand years and the earth is now experiencing yet another of these warmer periods. Therefore, scientists conducting the current study used historical evidence to predict how small mammals in the Arctic have responded to past climate change and thus how such species may react to current and future climate scenarios.

“Our research suggests that early ancestors of this group of roughly a dozen shrew species experienced an ecological separation due to isolation in different areas, adapting to wetter or drier local conditions respectively,” said Dr. Andrew Hope, a geneticist with the USGS Alaska Science Center who led the research.

Following initial adaptation to different environments, each cold and dry glacial phase caused rapid expansion of one group of shrew species while those adapted to warmer and wetter conditions contracted into multiple small isolated areas. Then during each warm and wet interglacial phase the opposite dynamics occurred. As high-latitude climates alternated between warm and cold climate changes, species such as the shrews rode an evolutionary see-saw of alternating population growth and decline, which promoted the formation of new species. The result has been a rapid increase in number of species in the Arctic in a very short evolutionary timespan. Investigation of these shrews has also uncovered previously unrecognized genetic diversity possibly representing un-described species.

This study of historical evolutionary processes offers valuable insight into the future ecological responses of species to prevailing environmental trends. Resident small mammals constitute an important toolset for investigating biological responses to climate change.

Shrews are tiny mammals that rely on insects, worms and other invertebrates for food. Despite their diminutive size, they can be found in virtually every available terrestrial habitat in North America excluding the most arid desert regions, reflecting adaptation to a broad range of environmental conditions. Link

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Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
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I remember reading a book titled (I think) "The beak of the finch" about the adaption/evolution process of Finches on the Galapagos islands. The researchers were amazed at how much finches varied even in single generations based on the supply of different size berries.

But rapid evolution seems to be a capability of species with large variations in offspring, multiple offspring per birth cycle and frequent birth cycles.... in short, yeah, anythign that can adapt rapidly is likely a pest.
Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
"Epic" is 3.5 million without power via a non-tropical windstorm event, striking Washington, D.CMake no mistake, it's a weather forecast, and at the very end; at the very moment you suddenly recognize or suspect what you're looking at, the illumination of the city changes. Perhaps it's because there aren't any lines attached ...?



I think you just drew a bunch of stuff and got lucky with a lot of extrapolation

And if you are so great at predicting these things, why not just write it out in plain english?
Here comes the EPAC into action.

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT MON JUL 2 2012

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE INCREASED IN ASSOCIATION WITH A BROAD
LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ABOUT 475 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF ACAPULCO
MEXICO. SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS DISTURBANCE IS POSSIBLE
DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10
TO 15 MPH. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING
A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN

Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
Here comes the EPAC into action.

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT MON JUL 2 2012

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE INCREASED IN ASSOCIATION WITH A BROAD
LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ABOUT 475 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF ACAPULCO
MEXICO. SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS DISTURBANCE IS POSSIBLE
DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10
TO 15 MPH. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING
A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN




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Quoting greentortuloni:


.... in short, yeah, anythign that can adapt rapidly is likely a pest.


Are you talkin' to me?

There's no way to correct a fumble fingered accidental plus or minus on a comment, is there?

FYI I did not intend to plus 1181, oops. Not that folks here are interested in what I approve :-)

Just don't like the appearance of opining on what I'm not sure of...