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Death Valley records a low of 107°F (41.7°C): a world record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:31 AM GMT on July 16, 2012

On Thursday morning, July 12, 2012 the low temperature at Death Valley, California dropped to just 107°F (41.7°C), after hitting a high of 128° (53.3°C) the previous day. Not only does the morning low temperature tie a record for the world's warmest low temperature ever recorded, the average temperature of 117.5°F is the world's warmest 24-hour temperature on record. According to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, the only other place in the world to record a 107°F low temperature was Khasab Airport in the desert nation of Oman on June 27, 2012. The previous U.S. record high minimum temperature may be a 103°F (39.4°C) observed in Death Valley, California in 1970. The NWS lists a July 5, 1918 low temperature of 110°F as the official highest minimum temperature recorded in Death Valley. This temperature is disputed by Mr. Herrera, who says the temperature that night was not monitored and passed from 60°F to 110°F then to 60°F again.


Figure 1. Badwater, Death Valley, California. Wide open spaces, infinite views. What's not to love about this place? Image credit: Wunderphotographer SonomaCountyRAF.

Wednesday's high of 128°F (53.3°C) was the 10th hottest temperature in U.S. history, and the hottest temperature measured in the U.S. since July 18, 2009, when Death Valley recorded another 128° reading. The only hotter temperatures in U.S. history were all measured at Death Valley, the most recent one being the 129° measured on July 6, 2007. The all-time high for Death Valley is the 134° reading of July 10, 1913.

Temperatures have cooled considerably at Death Valley over the weekend, and the forecast for Monday calls for for a downright chilly high of just 110°. That's sure to be a disappointment for the ultramarathoners in the grueling Badwater Ultramarathon, which begins Monday in Death Valley. Covering 135 miles (217km) non-stop from Death Valley to Mt. Whitney, CA, it is the most demanding and extreme running race offered anywhere on the planet. I'm sure they would have liked to have had the distinction of running their race last Wednesday and Thursday, during the hottest 24-hour period ever recorded on the planet!

Jeff Masters

Heat

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Quoting spathy:
Good question Pott.
How ya doing?

Doing good.
You ?

Hot and steamy here. Dark sky overhead, and still.
Had a good cloudburst here yesterday with 2" in about 40 mins.
Shook the house. Nice!
is weather modified weather modification?
i'm seeing two interpretations to this question:
1) that the result of modified environments without intention is wx. mod.
2) that the result of modified environments with intention is wx. mod.

i get annoyed with a certain user here, because he/she hides behind the ambiguity of statement 1) and Clearly implies statement 2).

it is evident that humans impact climate, climate drives weather, and weather has been modified under such human-impacting conditions. however, a conspiracy of intention doesn't gain any traction beyond seeding clouds from what i can gather.

Quoting pottery:

Doing good.
You ?

Hot and steamy here. Dark sky overhead, and still.
Had a good cloudburst here yesterday with 2" in about 40 mins.
Shook the house. Nice!


I am finally feeling better after a resp infection.

Dont you just love those kind of storms when they arent damaging?

Its a tropical thing that is sorely missed between seasons.

Quoting Minnemike:
is weather modified weather modification?
i'm seeing two interpretations to this question:
1) that the result of modified environments without intention is wx. mod.
2) that the result of modified environments with intention is wx. mod.

i get annoyed with a certain user here, because he/she hides behind the ambiguity of statement 1) and Clearly implies statement 2).

it is evident that humans impact climate, climate drives weather, and weather has been modified under such human-impacting conditions. however, a conspiracy of intention doesn't gain any traction beyond seeding clouds from what i can gather.



well i think the discussion is over now.
Whew.
Why do i always find myself in arguments on this blog...
505. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
is weather modified weather modification?
i'm seeing two interpretations to this question:
1) that the result of modified environments without intention is wx. mod.
2) that the result of modified environments with intention is wx. mod.

i get annoyed with a certain user here, because he/she hides behind the ambiguity of statement 1) and Clearly implies statement 2).

it is evident that humans impact climate, climate drives weather, and weather has been modified under such human-impacting conditions. however, a conspiracy of intention doesn't gain any traction beyond seeding clouds from what i can gather.




in the big scheme of things does it really matter if it was intentional or not????
Saw a good thing yesterday...

"Destruction of Manmade stuff is called Vandalism.
Destruction of Nature is called Progress"

Apropos of something or the other....
Quoting spathy:


I am finally feeling better after a resp infection.

Dont you just love those kind of storms when they arent damaging?

Its a tropical thing that is sorely missed between seasons.


Ouch! Sorry to hear about the infection. Nasty stuff.
And yeah, I LOVE those intense rainstorms.
Energising.
Geesh this blog is a bit depressing today! We need something to track in the Atlantic or this blog will implode into the abyss.

Thanks El-Nino..
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


well i think the discussion is over now.
Whew.
Why do i always find myself in arguments on this blog...


JMO
The answer is because you frame them in your mind as an argument.

Its not an argument just a back and forth that is sometimes infuriating.

But if you look at it as a fun look through a window of others thoughts,it can put a smile on your face.
Out til later>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Quoting StormTracker2K:
Geesh this blog is a bit depressing today! We need something to track in the Atlantic or this blog will implode into the abyss.

Thanks El-Nino..


what el nino?
oops ,i did it again.....:)





AOI in the Bahamas is what I'm watching today, and here's why: Low shear, warm SSTs, moderate mid-level vort, and 850 vort expanding in that general area. Still unlikely to develop, but the best thing we have to watch now as evidenced above.
Quoting yoboi:



in the big scheme of things does it really matter if it was intentional or not????
yes, it does. it is important to manage the impact of conspiracy as it impedes progress in dealing with the reality.
what if the 'big bad' government attempts a sincere effort at controlling the impact to our environment; how is it going to take charge when it's citizenry believes it to be the culprit of evil by means of intention?

yet, this is exactly what is occurring by way of misinformation regarding multiple economic and social policy fronts!! progress is dead because of a full-on narrative of lies. it will be a massive defeat to us all if the same game is played regarding environmental policy... oh wait, that Is what is happening..
Quoting spathy:


JMO
The answer is because you frame them in your mind as an argument.

Its not an argument just a back and forth that is sometimes infuriating.

But if you look at it as a fun look through a window of others thoughts,it can put a smile on your face.


im smiling, its a twisted grimace.
I suppose you are right though.

BTW, what is spathy, is that a made up word?
a monkey's name?
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


what el nino?
oops ,i did it again.....:)


LOL :O)
I wonder if we will see anything out of the system east of FL i see the cloud pattern has inproved and also the 850 and 700 mb vortics wind shear is also good for development.
517. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
yes, it does. it is important to manage the impact of conspiracy as it impedes progress in dealing with the reality.
what if the 'big bad' government attempts a sincere effort at controlling the impact to our environment; how is it going to take charge when it's citizenry believes it to be the culprit of evil by means of intention?

yet, this is exactly what is occurring by way of misinformation regarding multiple economic and social policy fronts!! progress is dead because of a full-on narrative of lies. it will be a massive defeat to us all if the same game is played regarding environmental policy... oh wait, that Is what is happening..


do ya really thing ya have a clue to all gov programs??? do ya know all projects nasa is studying??? do ya know what other countries are doing?? the gov has to keep certain things classified because not evryone could handle the truth...
Quoting WxGeekVA:





AOI in the Bahamas is what I'm watching today, and here's why: Low shear, warm SSTs, moderate mid-level vort, and 850 vort expanding in that general area. Still unlikely to develop, but the best thing we have to watch now as evidenced above.


Thanks WxG for telling us what you are posting.

These aging eyes are just not capable of seeing the fine print.
12z Euro running



Quoting pottery:

Did the seeding make rain ?



It must have!!
There counties that were seeded yesterday got over an inch of rain.

San Antonio got 0
Quoting WxGeekVA:





AOI in the Bahamas is what I'm watching today, and here's why: Low shear, warm SSTs, moderate mid-level vort, and 850 vort expanding in that general area. Still unlikely to develop, but the best thing we have to watch now as evidenced above.
Looks like we had the same thing in mind models do not always catch on so we might have a surprise there is plenty of moisture available.
Quoting SubtropicalHi:



It must have!!
There counties that were seeded yesterday got over an inch of rain.

San Antonio got 0


its just because you the weather fan there wanted rain.
So of course you wouldnt get it.
Quoting yoboi:


do ya really thing ya have a clue to all gov programs??? do ya know all projects nasa is studying??? do ya know what other countries are doing?? the gov has to keep certain things classified because not evryone could handle the truth...
i'm sorry, but i have no interest in making this some coy tease.. you don't make sense, and none of that addresses my point.
NASA is private, btw..
524. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
yes, it does. it is important to manage the impact of conspiracy as it impedes progress in dealing with the reality.
what if the 'big bad' government attempts a sincere effort at controlling the impact to our environment; how is it going to take charge when it's citizenry believes it to be the culprit of evil by means of intention?

yet, this is exactly what is occurring by way of misinformation regarding multiple economic and social policy fronts!! progress is dead because of a full-on narrative of lies. it will be a massive defeat to us all if the same game is played regarding environmental policy... oh wait, that Is what is happening..


let's cause panic and lose more people with that than what the actual event would have caused...i am not saying gov is always great but ya have to figure the risk when leaking the truth...
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


what el nino?
oops ,i did it again.....:)


Ok Brittany Spears
526. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
i'm sorry, but i have no interest in making this some coy tease.. you don't make sense, and none of that doesn't address my point.
NASA is private, btw..



if ya get gov grants not always a true private company...
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


im smiling, its a twisted grimace.
I suppose you are right though.

BTW, what is spathy, is that a made up word?
a monkey's name?


Its a long story but ...
A Spathe is a flower type/form.
A peace lily,Anthurium,Jack in the Pulpit are forms of a Spathe.
The actual name of a Peace Lily is a spathiphyllum.

There is also a form of that word that relates to conservatism.
Quoting ncstorm:
12z Euro running



Quoting WxGeekVA:





AOI in the Bahamas is what I'm watching today, and here's why: Low shear, warm SSTs, moderate mid-level vort, and 850 vort expanding in that general area. Still unlikely to develop, but the best thing we have to watch now as evidenced above.


Finally a great post
Quoting ncstorm:
12z Euro running





Great post buddy of weather related items.
This is the latest wave that was introduced just on the African coast. It looks like a dry wave.

COMPUTER MODEL DATA AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS ACROSS FAR WEST
AFRICA SUGGESTED A TROPICAL WAVE MOVING OFF THE COAST OF
MAURITANIA AND SENEGAL EARLY THIS MORNING WITH AXIS ANALYZED
FROM 18N16W TO 11N17W. NO CONVECTION IS CURRENTLY ASSOCIATED TO
THE WAVE DUE TO HIGH REFLECTIVITY VALUES DRY/SAHARAN AIR NOTED
ON METEOSAT-9. THEREFORE...AS THE WAVE CONTINUES EMBEDDED IN
THIS ENVIRONMENT...THE PLACEMENT OF THE AXIS MAY VARY OVER THE
NEXT FEW DAYS.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


its just because you the weather fan there wanted rain.
So of course you wouldnt get it.


LOL-- That's what I thought last night.

However, the area that got rain is normally drier than San Antonio.

When they seed they go into rain clouds.

Without the seeding the area that got 1 in of rain may have gotten drizzle.
Quoting Skyepony:
NOAA was a big part in getting a law passed where ships have to burn a better grade of fuel as they approach land.
This kinda got my brain rolling, along with your earlier comment with N Pole cams. Thinking of air traffic more than ships.

I know Anchorage International (aka Ted Stevens airport) is well used for passengers and goods on a "over the pole" air route for a shorter trip from continent to continent. Probably other airports are also. Might be hard to separate out axis change, but wonder if a study's been done that looks at effects of the presence and increase in the past few decades of air traffic going over the North Pole in terms of its capability to warm the atmosphere near and above the Pole.

(71)
Quoting Minnemike:
i'm sorry, but i have no interest in making this some coy tease.. you don't make sense, and none of that addresses my point.
NASA is private, btw..


NASA is as private an entity as the Post office.
A shade above Amtrak!
Two shades above GM. LOL
Quoting StormTracker2K:
Geesh this blog is a bit depressing today! We need something to track in the Atlantic or this blog will implode into the abyss.

Thanks El-Nino..
It's not El-Nino it's just July weather!
536. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
i'm sorry, but i have no interest in making this some coy tease.. you don't make sense, and none of that addresses my point.
NASA is private, btw..


what is your point???? i am trying to understand it...
537. yoboi
Quoting SubtropicalHi:


LOL-- That's what I thought last night.

However, the area that got rain is normally drier than San Antonio.

When they seed they go into rain clouds.

Without the seeding the area that got 1 in of rain may have gotten drizzle.


people can make it rain????
Wow. I just received 1.10" of rain in less than 20 minutes from the thunderstorm sitting over me. Quite heavy with plenty of CG lightning.
grants.. and here's where it all begins, the ceaseless tar and feathering by the conspiracists.. my wife is starting her Post-doc in Feb at JPL.. i suppose that puts her in the same league as my government-controlled artist friends who received federal grants..
Quoting yoboi:


people can make it rain????


Sometimes you have to wonder.. LOL
Look at Fl and Tex?
Peterman Glacier in Greenland Just Broke Off Ice Island 3X the Size of Manhattan

Just happened today and is the "Breaking News" on many of the arctic blog sites.

Quoting yoboi:


what is your point???? i am trying to understand it...
that it is damaging to spread conspiracy theories when there are very real problems to manage.. problems that are derailed by the nonsense spouted by conspiracy theories.
Quoting gulfbreeze:
It's not El-Nino it's just July weather!


544. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
grants.. and here's where it all begins, the ceaseless tar and feathering by the conspiracists.. my wife is starting her Post-doc in Feb at JPL.. i suppose that puts her in the same league as my government-controlled artist friends who received federal grants..


idk that is two differ grants, did ya read the fine print with both grants??? maybe that's why your artist friend is goverment controlled???? without reading both grants i can't answer you on that question, sorry.....
545. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
that it is damaging to spread conspiracy theories when there are very real problems to manage.. problems that are derailed by the nonsense spouted by conspiracy theories.


oh ok i see what ya saying...is there conspiracy facts being spewed also???
Quoting ncstorm:
12z Euro running



Development off of Africa it would seem.
Quoting yoboi:


people can make it rain????


only in the club..
120 hour

I guess the GFS may be RIGHT again..feedback issues..I dont think so..

Looks like there is going to be a nasty east and west coast sea breeze collision right over the orlando Metro over the next several hours. also once the collision happens these storms will pretty much remain stationary.

Quoting yoboi:


oh ok i see what ya saying...is there conspiracy facts being spewed also???
due to sarcasm and the general playful tones to your text, this will be my last reply..
conspiracies do not have supporting facts. conspiracies use facts to suggest support.. if there are supporting facts, then it is not a conspiracy. suggestion is not fact.

no facts exist that prove shipping infrastructure, air traffic, internal combustion engines, HAARP, etc. have been employed for the purpose of modifying weather.
cloud seeding occurs, and that's about it on the scale of intention, when using *supporting facts* to discuss the larger question of agencies seeking to modify weather.

any response i suspect will be some trollish baiting.. but that's up to you ;)
Quoting ncstorm:
120 hour

Has a weak wave in the MDR.
This article from NASA.gov explains pretty well the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's relationship with the private sector. Link
Quoting yoboi:


idk that is two differ grants, did ya read the fine print with both grants??? maybe that's why your artist friend is goverment controlled???? without reading both grants i can't answer you on that question, sorry.....
For a dead Armadillo, you're pretty smart. Add: Ps Hard to tell. Maybe that's a opossum and you're just playin' possum.

(70)
Hello cut-off low east of Florida, you are gaining an interesting subtropical look today.
Quoting ncstorm:
I guess the GFS may be RIGHT again..feedback issues..I dont think so..




Let'em bash the GFS just like they did Debby. Infact Dr. Jeff Masters mentioned this possibility in his blog late last week as a trugh split situation occuring off the Carolina coast.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Has a weak wave in the MDR.


Im ready for the first cape verde system to track
Quoting pottery:

Did the seeding make rain ?


Thank you, Pottery -- now we're getting down to the good stuff! Like:

Anything out there yet about the recent success rates of U.S. cloud-seeding efforts in the last five years or so? China's success rates? And as Pottery points out, the success rate in Texas yesterday?

Does Florida do any cloud-seeding? Or Georgia, for that matter?
Quoting StormTracker2K:



Let'em bash the GFS just like they did Debby. Infact Dr. Jeff Masters mentioned this possibility in his blog late last week as a trugh split situation occuring off the Carolina coast.


I actually posted text from Allan Huffman's blog before Dr. Masters put up his blog that we would have a trough split..He actually provides more than model runs..People should read his daily discussions when we have tropical interests out there..He is good as well
There's about to be an explosive collision across the westside of Orlando over the next couple of hours.

560. yoboi
Quoting Minnemike:
due to sarcasm and the general playful tones to your text, this will be my last reply..
conspiracies do not have supporting facts. conspiracies use facts to suggest support.. if there are supporting facts, then it is not a conspiracy. suggestion is not fact.

no facts exist that prove shipping infrastructure, air traffic, internal combustion engines, HAARP, etc. have been employed for the purpose of modifying weather.
cloud seeding occurs, and that's about it on the scale of intention, when using *supporting facts* to discuss the larger question of agencies seeking to modify weather.

any response i suspect will be some trollish baiting.. but that's up to you ;)



dude i am just asking questions???? before i form an opinion with something i am going to ask questions....

if ya read back i was asking someone if humans can make it rain...we don't live in china just yet, just because you say does not automatic make it so....the brown shirts were in the past....
Quoting ncstorm:


Im ready for the first cape verde system to track


So am I.
I am running out of humorous responses and dull Fl rainy season posts.
Quoting spathy:


Its a long story but ...
A Spathe is a flower type/form.
A peace lily,Anthurium,Jack in the Pulpit are forms of a Spathe.
The actual name of a Peace Lily is a spathiphyllum.

There is also a form of that word that relates to conservatism.
Well thank you for teaching me something new today. Locally, we call them PeePee plants. :)
Quoting StormTracker2K:
There's about to be an explosive collision across the westside of Orlando over the next couple of hours.



Are you looking at the Outflow headed West?
Quoting kwgirl:
Well thank you for teaching me something new today. Locally, we call them PeePee plants. :)


LOL
I have heard little boy flowers but not --- --- plants.
Quoting spathy:


Are you looking at the Outflow headed West?


and the outflow heading east as well. There is about to be a boundry collision very near Downtown Orlando.
Quoting StormTracker2K:
Looks like there is going to be a nasty east and west coast sea breeze collision right over the orlando Metro over the next several hours. also once the collision happens these storms will pretty much remain stationary.

There is definitely going to be a collision, but I wouldn't consider that a collision between the two sea breezes. The west coast sea breeze hasn't really penetrated far from the coast, but the outflow boundaries from the sea breeze storms continue to push inland spurring additional convection. It's sort of like Newton's cradle with energy from the SB circulations advancing...

And I'm definitely keeping my eye on the Orlando area... that collision will be neat to watch.
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
There is definitely going to be a collision, but I wouldn't consider that a collision between the two sea breezes. The west coast sea breeze hasn't really penetrated far from the coast, but the outflow boundaries from the sea breeze storms continue to push inland spurring additional convection. It's sort of like Newton's cradle with energy from the SB circulations advancing...

And I'm definitely keeping my eye on the Orlando area... that collision will be neat to watch.


Yup and once they collide then thunderstorms will spread out across C FL.
Quoting bappit:

I'm not so sure about that actually. As far as I know the subjects discussed on the blog are outside what could be expected of a secondary education--not because of difficulty but because of specialization. Yes, the younger people on the blog contribute and benefit, but kids will come to this blog regardless of their educational background, superior or otherwise, if they have the interest (and internet access). I think it is the desire to learn and witness that makes the blog go.

If the desire is there, you just can't deny it--like Chi Chi Rodriguez learning golf.

"Rodríguez would take a branch from a guava tree and turn it into a golf club. Using a metal can as a "golf ball", he would practice what he had seen the "real" golfers do, teaching himself how to play golf. By the time he was nine years old, he was proficient at golf and in 1947 at the age of 12, he scored a 67."
Agree totally. My point is that it's not so easy to get this information in a typical educational setting. Some of this stuff I learned "as a matter of course" during my growing up years because it was generally taught in schools here [in gr. 4 -8 geography / science]. Hurricane preparedness, along with an understanding of the weather that impacts our islands, was pretty much a basic requirement of life. Nowadays I'm not so sure that information is as readily available for students, even in locations like ours which are regularly impacted by TCs. So the curious and interested have to go looking.

This blog gets the hits because when people come here to learn, they can actually do that thing. Information is here, and it's relatively accessible regardless of age or educational background.
sorry for wasting blog space all..
Quoting ncstorm:


Im ready for the first cape verde system to track
I know I want Isaac to be a beautiful cape verde storm that hopefully goes out into the open Atlantic like the on in 2000 did.
Speaking of unintentional and uncontrollable weather modification (for that's all there is; the intentional stuff has never worked anywhere but a laboratory setting, late-night movies on SyFy, and the gullible minds of conspiracy theorists), NOAA released its J un State of the Climate report. Among the "good" news:

--The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean average surface temperature for June 2012 was the all-time warmest June on record, at 1.30C (2.34F) above average.

--The globally-averaged land surface temperature for June 2012 was also the all-time warmest June on record, at 1.07C (1.93F) above average.

--Average global temperature across land and oceans during June 2012 was 0.63C (1.13F) above the 20th century average of 15.5C (59.9F) and ranked as the fourth warmest June since records began in 1880.

--June 2012 marks 328th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average.

hot
Quoting Minnemike:
sorry for wasting blog space all..


You are not wasting space on the blog.
Its just how the blog is flowing today.

West coast sea breeze has brought partly cloudy weather here. The heaviest rain fell off to my west this afternoon. Typical rainy season weather. The area in the Bahamas looks like it is developing some convection around the ULL. We will see if it can work down to the surface.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Speaking of unintentional and uncontrollable weather modification (for that's all there is; the intentional stuff has never worked anywhere but a laboratory setting, late-night movies on SyFy, and the gullible minds of conspiracy theorists), NOAA released its J un State of the Climate report. Among the "good" news:

--The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean average surface temperature for June 2012 was the all-time warmest June on record, at 1.30C (2.34F) above average.

--The globally-averaged land surface temperature for June 2012 was also the all-time warmest June on record, at 1.07C (1.93F) above average.

--Average global temperature across land and oceans during June 2012 was 0.63C (1.13F) above the 20th century average of 15.5C (59.9F) and ranked as the fourth warmest June since records began in 1880.

--June 2012 marks 328th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average.

hot
Interesting how Australia is cool..
Quoting OrchidGrower:


Thank you, Pottery -- now we're getting down to the good stuff! Like:

Anything out there yet about the recent success rates of U.S. cloud-seeding efforts in the last five years or so? China's success rates? And as Pottery points out, the success rate in Texas yesterday?

Does Florida do any cloud-seeding? Or Georgia, for that matter?


The weather modification site posted by FLWeatherFreak Agriculture Defense Coaltion

There is a list of projects. I opened the first PDF on the page. I didn't see Florida listed on that report, but there are other reports on the site.
Quoting hydrus:
Interesting how Australia is cool..
Because they're "upside down" from the rest of the world.Lol.Aussie is gonna kill me.
To use a Keeper phrase...

Mark?

Quoting ncstorm:


Im ready for the first cape verde system to track


At this point I'd track rabid dogs across a zombie infested city....naked...
Orchid Grower the weather modification site is:
Agriculture Defense Coalition

Sorry about the bad link. I'm a slow blogger.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


well i think the discussion is over now.
Whew.
Why do i always find myself in arguments on this blog...


Are you the argumentative type?.....lol
581. yoboi
Quoting Barefootontherocks:
This article from NASA.gov explains pretty well the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's relationship with the private sector. Link
For a dead Armadillo, you're pretty smart. Add: Ps Hard to tell. Maybe that's a opossum and you're just playin' possum.

(70)


lmao
Quoting hydrus:
Interesting how Australia is cool..


It's winter in Australia. Happens every year.
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:


Are you the argumentative type?.....lol


no.....but we can argue about it if you'd like :)
Quoting OldLeatherneck:


It's winter in Australia. Happens every year.


He's talking about the below average temps.
Its colder than a normal winter

(ps, im correcting someone...again. I really should stop but i cant)
Quoting OldLeatherneck:


It's winter in Australia. Happens every year.
every 9 months
........................................winds picking up around your area stormtracker
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


no.....but we can argue about it if you'd like :)


It's not quite raining here yet, but I gotta go out, so I'm getting off in a few. HOWever, I'd like to leave the blog w/ a hypothetical...

I'm planning on getting a wx station and hooking it up to the 'net... eventually.

So, say another hurricane like Irene comes along, and makes a beeline for New Providence, cat 3+ winds and all. Should I leave up the station until the wind blows it away, so as to collect as much data as possible, or should I take it down and save myself the several hundred $$ it would cost me???

we got a 3 week heat wave coming up for august

and it will be the hottest of all time
Quoting BahaHurican:
It's not quite raining here yet, but I gotta go out, so I'm getting off in a few. HOWever, I'd like to leave the blog w/ a hypothetical...

I'm planning on getting a wx station and hooking it up to the 'net... eventually.

So, say another hurricane like Irene comes along, and makes a beeline for New Providence, cat 3 winds and all. Should I leave up the station until the wind blows it away, so as to collect as much data as possible, or should I take it down and save myself the several hundred $$ it would cost me???


Depends on what you mount it to, how you mount it, and how important a few hundred bucks is to you.

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* UNTIL 330 PM EDT

* AT 234 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
STRONG THUNDERSTORM 5 MILES WEST OF MISSION BAY...AND MOVING EAST
AT 5 MPH.

* THE STORM WILL AFFECT...
RURAL SOUTHERN PALM BEACH COUNTY
RURAL SOUTHEASTERN PALM BEACH COUNTY
AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THE PRIMARY IMPACTS WILL BE GUSTY WINDS OF 45 TO 55 MPH. THESE WINDS
CAN DOWN SMALL TREE LIMBS AND BRANCHES...AND BLOW AROUND UNSECURED
SMALL OBJECTS. SEEK SHELTER IN A SAFE BUILDING UNTIL THE STORM
PASSES. TRAINED WEATHER SPOTTERS HAVE REPORTED GENERAL ROTATION
WITH THIS STORM.

ALSO...DEVELOPING IN AN ENVIRONMENT FAVORABLE FOR FUNNEL CLOUDS.

STAY TUNED FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE WARNINGS.
from the NWS discussion in Wilmington about the ULL

INTERESTING UPPER LOW EASILY VISIBLE ON WV IMAGERY TODAY WILL MOVE
WESTWARD INTO FL/GA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD BEFORE DRIFTING
NORTHEAST AND WEAKENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY. EVEN AS UPPER RIDGE
BUILDS EAST FROM THE PLAINS STATES...THIS UPPER LOW WILL KEEP
RELATIVELY LOWER HEIGHTS ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST AND HENCE UPPER
RIDGING WILL NOT HAVE THE CONVECTION-SQUELCHING EFFECT IT USUALLY
DOES. AT THE SURFACE...BERMUDA HIGH PRESSURE WILL SIT OFFSHORE WHILE
THERMAL PIEDMONT TROUGH DEVELOPS AND STRENGTHENS EACH DAY. THESE
TOGETHER KEEP THE CAROLINAS IN A LOW-LEVEL SW RETURN FLOW REGIME
WHICH WILL TRANSPORT WARMTH AND MOISTURE INTO THE AREA. THIS ALL
TOGETHER MEANS WARMING TEMPS AND DECENT AFTN CONVECTION CHANCES EACH
DAY DURING THE SHORT TERM.
Quoting BahaHurican:
It's not quite raining here yet, but I gotta go out, so I'm getting off in a few. HOWever, I'd like to leave the blog w/ a hypothetical...

I'm planning on getting a wx station and hooking it up to the 'net... eventually.

So, say another hurricane like Irene comes along, and makes a beeline for New Providence, cat 3 winds and all. Should I leave up the station until the wind blows it away, so as to collect as much data as possible, or should I take it down and save myself the several hundred $$ it would cost me???

Baha, unless you have money to burn, I would take it down. Let the NWS or whatever the Bahamian Govt. weather service is called do the official fact gathering.
But I am a former banker, current accountant and just plain frugal:)
FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
314 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

FLC017-053-162015-
/O.NEW.KTBW.FA.Y.0049.120716T1914Z-120716T2015Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
HERNANDO FL-CITRUS FL-
314 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR...
CENTRAL CITRUS COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF HOMOSASSA SPRINGS

NORTHWESTERN HERNANDO COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 415 PM EDT

* AT 315 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
RAINFALL RATES OF TWO INCHES PER HOUR ASSOCIATED WITH THUNDERSTORMS
OVER THE ADVISED AREA...LOCALIZED FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR OCCURRING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

KEEP CHILDREN FROM BEING SWEPT AWAY IN FLOODED DITCHES AND DRAINS.
FLOOD WATERS ARE USUALLY DEEPER THAN THEY APPEAR AND MAY STALL YOUR
VEHICLE. JUST ONE FOOT OF FLOWING WATER IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO SWEEP
VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN.

&&

LAT...LON 2886 8265 2886 8244 2868 8244 2868 8265
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


How much is due to El Nino's lack of progression, and how much is due to it being winter in the southern hemisphere? Anyone have a similar anomaly map?
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
we got a 3 week heat wave coming up for august

and it will be the hottest of all time


dont know about 3 weeks, but the heat wave seems to be more westerly, models cant give a clear indication of where it will move past 2 weeks
Quoting BahaHurican:
It's not quite raining here yet, but I gotta go out, so I'm getting off in a few. HOWever, I'd like to leave the blog w/ a hypothetical...

I'm planning on getting a wx station and hooking it up to the 'net... eventually.

So, say another hurricane like Irene comes along, and makes a beeline for New Providence, cat 3+ winds and all. Should I leave up the station until the wind blows it away, so as to collect as much data as possible, or should I take it down and save myself the several hundred $$ it would cost me???



Just put a tether on it. Replacement parts are usually inexpensive if you got it from a good company.
REPOST:

It's not quite raining here yet, but I gotta go out, so I'm getting off in a few. HOWever, I'd like to leave the blog w/ a hypothetical...

I'm planning on getting a wx station and hooking it up to the 'net... eventually.

So, say another hurricane like Irene comes along, and makes a beeline for New Providence, cat 3+ winds and all. Should I leave up the station until the wind blows it away, so as to collect as much data as possible, or should I take it down and save myself the several hundred $$ it would cost me???

Quoting jeffs713:

How much is due to El Nino's lack of progression, and how much is due to it being winter in the southern hemisphere? Anyone have a similar anomaly map?
i did not think winter occured at the 0 degree mark of the tropics

0 and 10 degrees south
is quite the ways from that region

Quoting spathy:


Just put a tether on it. Replacement parts are usually inexpensive if you got it from a good company.


Now if a roof falls on it just click your heels a repeat.

The info I gathered was worth it.
The info I gathered was worth it....
God I hope it stays away from the East Coast!!!!
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


dont know about 3 weeks, but the heat wave seems to be more westerly, models cant give a clear indication of where it will move past 2 weeks
Quoting spathy:


Now if a roof falls on it just click your heels a repeat.

The info I gathered was worth it.
The info I gathered was worth it....


if your roof falls you have worse problems
................................................. seems like they have been watching much the same area's for the last 2 weeks now huh
Quoting HurricaneGroupie:
God I hope it stays away from the East Coast!!!!


staying more eastern:

shortwave troughs keep cycling through and troughs on the east coast (never-ending omega block):



extending into eastern US
.............................hey NC you have storms coming also
nothing interesting:


Just another southeast heat wave
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


no.....but we can argue about it if you'd like :)


LOL TOUCHE!
FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC
257 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

NCC153-165-162030-
/O.NEW.KRAH.FA.Y.0082.120716T1857Z-120716T2030Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
RICHMOND NC-SCOTLAND NC-
257 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RALEIGH HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR HEAVY RAINFALL AND MINOR
FLOODING IN...
EASTERN RICHMOND COUNTY IN CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA...
NORTH CENTRAL SCOTLAND COUNTY IN CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA...

* UNTIL 430 PM EDT

* AT 257 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
THUNDERSTORMS WITH HEAVY RAINFALL OVER NORTH CENTRAL SCOTLAND
AND EASTERN RICHMOND COUNTIES. DOPPLER RADAR ESTIMATED ONE TO TWO
INCHES OF RAIN HAS FALLEN SINCE 200 PM. ADDITIONAL RAINFALL
AMOUNTS OF UP TO AN INCH WILL BE POSSIBLE THROUGH 430 PM.

* RUNOFF FROM THIS HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CAUSE MINOR FLOODING TO
OCCUR...ESPECIALLY ALONG SMALL STREAMS...IN LOW LYING AREAS...AND
AREAS OF POOR DRAINAGE. SOME LOCATIONS THAT WILL EXPERIENCE MINOR
FLOODING INCLUDE...HOFFMAN.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM HEAVY RAIN MAY CAUSE MINOR FLOODING OF SMALL
CREEKS AND STREAMS...COUNTRY ROADS...AS WELL AS FARMLAND ALONG THE
BANKS OF CREEKS AND STREAMS.

PLEASE REPORT FLOODING TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BY CALLING...
1...8 7 7...6 3 3...6 7 7 2 OR NOTIFY YOUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY.

&&

LAT...LON 3489 7972 3512 7972 3512 7958 3509 7958
3506 7957 3506 7950 3506 7948 3505 7947
3488 7944

$$

VINCENT
Has there ever been any record of a tropical cyclone hitting Antarctica? Anyone know?
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
nothing interesting:


But isnt that interesting,that there is nothing interesting?
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
318 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

FLZ025-161945-
DUVAL-
318 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

...A SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ADVISORY HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR NORTHERN DUVAL
COUNTY FOR STRONG WINDS AND EXCESSIVE LIGHTNING VALID UNTIL 345 PM
EDT...

AT 319 PM EDT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
STRONG THUNDERSTORM CENTERED OVER OCEANWAY...OR 4 MILES EAST OF
JACKSONVILLE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT...MOVING SOUTH AT 5 MPH. THIS
STRONG THUNDERSTORM WILL ALSO AFFECT AREAS AROUND OCEANWAY AND
JACKSONVILLE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT THROUGH 345 PM EDT. EXCESSIVE
CLOUD-TO-GROUND LIGHTNING AND GUSTY WINDS OF 40 TO 50 MPH CAN BE
EXPECTED ALONG WITH POSSIBLE MINOR DAMAGE. HEAVY RAINFALL WILL
PRODUCE PONDING OF WATER ON ROADWAYS AND MINOR FLOODING OF LOW-LYING
AREAS.

REPORT DAMAGE TO THE NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR YOUR COUNTY
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

LAT...LON 3033 8175 3049 8180 3054 8159 3040 8149
TIME...MOT...LOC 1919Z 014DEG 4KT 3046 8164
Quoting Waltanater:
Has there ever been any record of a tropical cyclone hitting Antarctica? Anyone know?
maybe 750,000 years ago during the last tropical rein over the north and south poles
Quoting BahaHurican:
REPOST:

It's not quite raining here yet, but I gotta go out, so I'm getting off in a few. HOWever, I'd like to leave the blog w/ a hypothetical...

I'm planning on getting a wx station and hooking it up to the 'net... eventually.

So, say another hurricane like Irene comes along, and makes a beeline for New Providence, cat 3 winds and all. Should I leave up the station until the wind blows it away, so as to collect as much data as possible, or should I take it down and save myself the several hundred $$ it would cost me???

You could get people / local company to sponsor your station to keep it up for as long as possible. That way get data and you can replace it in case it gets destroyed.

/edit you could even have them sponsor your web traffic or site (with links back to their company / organization's web page. :P
Quoting spathy:


But isnt that interesting,that there is nothing interesting?


that similiar to the proof that all numbers are interesting.

1 is the first odd number
2 is the first even number
3 is the 1st odd prime number
4 is the first integer square
.
.
and so on.
But when we come to the 1st number that is not interesting, wouldnt that make it interesting?

Therefore all numbers are interesting
hey Patrap..did you see any of these around your area?.....................TROPICAL FUNNEL CLOUDS POSSIBLE THIS MORNING INTO EARLY
AFTERNOON...

AT 935 AM...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS RECEIVED A REPORT OF
FUNNEL CLOUDS DEVELOPING NORTHWEST OF SULPHUR. THE LAKE CHARLES
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RADAR SHOWS ISOLATED SHOWERS AND A FEW
THUNDERSTORMS BEGINNING TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE AREA.

A VERY MOIST AND UNSTABLE TROPICAL AIRMASS IS IN PLACE ACROSS THE
AREA. MEANWHILE...THE VERTICAL WIND PROFILE OVER THE AREA IS LIGHT
AND VARIABLE. THESE CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
OF TROPICAL FUNNEL CLOUDS...ESPECIALLY WHERE RAIN COOLED
BOUNDARIES...KNOWN AS OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES...AND THE SEABREEZE
COLLIDE.

THESE TROPICAL FUNNEL CLOUDS ARE USUALLY SHORT-LIVED AND DO NOT
REACH THE GROUND. IF THE FUNNEL CLOUD BECOMES MORE SEVERE AND
REACHES THE GROUND...MINOR DAMAGE MAY OCCUR...AND A TORNADO
WARNING WILL LIKELY BE ISSUED.

STAY TUNED FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND UPDATES ON THIS WEATHER
SITUATION.
Quoting Barefootontherocks:
This kinda got my brain rolling, along with your earlier comment with N Pole cams. Thinking of air traffic more than ships.

I know Anchorage International (aka Ted Stevens airport) is well used for passengers and goods on a "over the pole" air route for a shorter trip from continent to continent. Probably other airports are also. Might be hard to separate out axis change, but wonder if a study's been done that looks at effects of the presence and increase in the past few decades of air traffic going over the North Pole in terms of its capability to warm the atmosphere near and above the Pole.


There is some thing here about it. Looks like money awards have been handed out for cleaner fuels & specific routes are utilized to reduce impact. Some talk of taxes to Arctic States to mitigate the effects of Arctic travel & tourism..
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


that similiar to the proof that all numbers are interesting.

1 is the first odd number
2 is the first even number
3 is the 1st odd prime number
4 is the first integer square
.
.
and so on.
But when we come to the 1st number that is not interesting, wouldnt that make it interesting?

Therefore all numbers are interesting


Ok
You were correct. Nothing interesting.
Just please dont post that again...
I am already feeling sleepy LOL
What a storm that was! I have thus far received 2.46" since 2:00pm and it's still sprinkling. My entire neighborhood is flooded and actually flowing which I have never seen before in the 20 years I have lived here.

This month has to be one of the wettest for my immediate area on record. Too bad I just got my PWS going last week or I'd be able to know exactly how much has fallen. How are the storms coming on your side of the state tracker?
Here's a cloud seeding goof from Russia...

“A pack of cement used in creating good weather in the capital region failed to pulverize completely at high altitude and fell on the roof of a house, making a hole about 80-100 cm (2.5-3 ft).” – Naro-Fominsk Police when talking with agency RIA-Novosti.

Fortunately no one was hurt, but the Russian homeowner is less than impressed. He has shunned the Air Force’s offer of $2,100 to fix the roof and is suing for “moral suffering” damages instead. The Air Force claims this was a freak accident and unheard of in the 20 years of cloud seeding operations.

Read more
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
What a storm that was! I have thus far received 2.46" since 2:00pm and it's still sprinkling. My entire neighborhood is flooded and actually flowing which I have never seen before in the 20 years I have lived here.

This month has to be one of the wettest for my immediate area on record. Too bad I just got my PWS going last week or I'd be able to know exactly how much has fallen. How are the storms coming on your side of the state tracker?


Did you have some power outages?
I hate that!

632. yoboi
Quoting Skyepony:
Here's a cloud seeding goof from Russia...

“A pack of cement used in creating good weather in the capital region failed to pulverize completely at high altitude and fell on the roof of a house, making a hole about 80-100 cm (2.5-3 ft).” – Naro-Fominsk Police when talking with agency RIA-Novosti.

Fortunately no one was hurt, but the Russian homeowner is less than impressed. He has shunned the Air Force’s offer of $2,100 to fix the roof and is suing for “moral suffering” damages instead. The Air Force claims this was a freak accident and unheard of in the 20 years of cloud seeding operations.

Read more


what is that green stuff that planes release in the sky???
Death Valley will truly be deserving of its name soon. The normal precipitous temperature drops by night in these desert regions allow sufficient condensation for certain adapted species. Without the dew the desert will eventually become a truly dead zone.
Quoting StormTracker2K:




the models don't are very accurate, with the predicction of the enso
Right now everything is pointing El NINO.

But We Don't KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPENS


Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
we got a 3 week heat wave coming up for august

and it will be the hottest of all time
Why do you say that?
Buoy 45005 on Lake Erie 30 NM northwest of Cleveland reporting a water temperature of 84.4F. Looks like Erie is primed for tropical development or lake effect snow or something.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station =45005
Off topic but does anyone know who / where to report what seems to be a bug with the Wundermap? Whenever I select the Radar and Sat layers together all I see is two frames just bouncing back and forth for both layers.
Quoting Skyepony:
Here's a cloud seeding goof from Russia...

“A pack of cement used in creating good weather in the capital region failed to pulverize completely at high altitude and fell on the roof of a house, making a hole about 80-100 cm (2.5-3 ft).” – Naro-Fominsk Police when talking with agency RIA-Novosti.

Fortunately no one was hurt, but the Russian homeowner is less than impressed. He has shunned the Air Force’s offer of $2,100 to fix the roof and is suing for “moral suffering” damages instead. The Air Force claims this was a freak accident and unheard of in the 20 years of cloud seeding operations.

Read more


Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
maybe 750,000 years ago during the last tropical rein over the north and south poles
What about in "recorded history?" Do ya know??
-moo
I tried it and I don't have the problem. The sat doesn't have as many frames as the radar, but I get six.
Is your animation slider bar set to 2 frames?
that would do it.
Quoting ClimateChange:
Buoy 45005 on Lake Erie 30 NM northwest of Cleveland reporting a water temperature of 84.4F. Looks like Erie is primed for tropical development or lake effect snow or something.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station =45005
This:

water

...Plus this:

hot

...And this:

hot

...Equals this:

hot

DISCLAIMER: the water in Lake Michigan will not actually reach a rolling boil regardless of how warm the weather in the area is over the next few weeks. The image is intended to illustrate in a humorous way that the lake will, however, be far warmer then normal.
Quoting biff4ugo:
-moo
I tried it and I don't have the problem. The sat doesn't have as many frames as the radar, but I get six.
Is your animation slider bar set to 2 frames?
that would do it.
Nope. Was set to 15 so I slid it to 6, then 2 and still the same thing occurred.

It's odd, now that I look at it closely, there seems to be two radar layer frames actually. They both show up at the same time. Like frame one and frame 15, or frame one and six, or even frame one and two show on top of each other plus the sat layer under them. Half the map flickers out and then back and it happens no matter how far or close i zoom. It's a bit hard to explain. ;) I'll try and get some screen shots and put them up when i have a moment.

This has been happening for a while now. I'm sure it's my browser/OS/browser add-ons interfering with some script or other on the site. Want to file a bug report if there is a mechanism for that.


It's warm up in the lakes for sure.
Rita..just saw on the news, 3 people in houston got hit by lightning while huddled under a tree during a sudden storm, 2 died the third is in critical condition
From this afternoon's AFD of San Juan:

FOR WEDNESDAY...GFS BRINGS AN INDUCED TROUGH AND ITS
ASSOCIATED MOISTURE ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. THIS TROUGH WILL BE
SUPPORTED BY THE AFOREMENTIONED TUTT...WHICH WILL HELP TO INCREASE
THE INSTABILITY OVER THE ISLANDS. THIS TRANSLATES TO INCREASED
CHANCE FOR SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE
FORECAST AREA. THE NEXT TROPICAL WAVE WILL PASS MAINLY SOUTH OF
THE ISLANDS ON FRIDAY.
Quoting LargoFl:
Rita..just saw on the news, 3 people in houston got hit by lightning while huddled under a tree during a sudden storm, 2 died the third is in critical condition


2 guys got struck in GA after getting out of a boat and standing under a tree here in GA, one died.
beef and chicken prices going up again the news said..and..50% of the states are in serious drought conditions, they are still watching to see if THIS drought is going to be as bad as the dust bowl drought of the 30's..man i hope not, that one was real serious and the population of the usa wasnt as large as it is now
Quoting spathy:


Did you have some power outages?
I hate that!

Whoa you found my PWS lol

And nope, no power outages :)
All this talk about the Lakes!

Quoting Neapolitan:
This:

water

...Plus this:

hot

...And this:

hot

...Equals this:

hot

DISCLAIMER: the water in Lake Michigan will not actually reach a rolling boil regardless of how warm the weather in the area is over the next few weeks. The image is intended to illustrate in a humorous way that the lake will, however, be far warmer then normal.


A good early season arctic blast could cause a tremendous lake-effect blizzard.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


2 guys got struck in GA after getting out of a boat and standing under a tree here in GA, one died.
i think the news said 13 people in 10 states got hit this week..we take lightning for granted,hardly thinking at all about it huh..but damn its dangerous and a killer for sure
Quoting WxGeekVA:


It's warm up in the lakes for sure.
Gulf is like a big jacuzzi.
...............................................an d in Florida..its the number one killer
FML the DP is 81.... ewww

I was just in Maine for 2 weeks and had to come back for this.

There is so much standing water all around that whenever the temp heats up the DP goes up too.

Winter is only..... 4.5 months away
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
From this afternoon's AFD of San Juan:

FOR WEDNESDAY...GFS BRINGS AN INDUCED TROUGH AND ITS
ASSOCIATED MOISTURE ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. THIS TROUGH WILL BE
SUPPORTED BY THE AFOREMENTIONED TUTT...WHICH WILL HELP TO INCREASE
THE INSTABILITY OVER THE ISLANDS. THIS TRANSLATES TO INCREASED
CHANCE FOR SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE
FORECAST AREA. THE NEXT TROPICAL WAVE WILL PASS MAINLY SOUTH OF
THE ISLANDS ON FRIDAY.


OMG 2012 is much drier than 2011 and 2010!! I want SOME good wet waves over the N islands of the Lesser Antilles :)
Does anyone know this little Conchism? My friend says that a wet summer here in the Keys means a cold winter. I remember wet summers growing up here and I remember cold winters, but I am now too old to remember if the cold winter followed the wet summer.
Quoting washingtonian115:
Gulf is like a big jacuzzi.


i dont get why people love jacuzzis, sitting it hot bubbling water.

Much rather go to sleep or something
Link


For those of you that care to look, this is some information on me. My passion for weather burns through and trumps all of my troubles. I hope I can inspire you to power through what adversity comes at you. Don't Ever give up!

Have a nice evening,
FM


(This is a pic of a waterspout off of Sanibel Island this morning at 9:30)
Quoting kwgirl:
Does anyone know this little Conchism? My friend says that a wet summer here in the Keys means a cold winter. I remember wet summers growing up here and I remember cold winters, but I am now too old to remember if the cold winter followed the wet summer.



cold winter for the US or for the keys?
a keys cold winter would really onlly be 5 degrees colder than summer anyway right?
Quoting LargoFl:
Rita..just saw on the news, 3 people in houston got hit by lightning while huddled under a tree during a sudden storm, 2 died the third is in critical condition


Yea, I was posting about it last night
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


i dont get why people love jacuzzis, sitting it hot bubbling water.

Much rather go to sleep or something
I've never really enjoyed it that much.All ways reminded me of a bath but with chlorine in it.
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM FABIO ADVISORY NUMBER 20
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP062012
200 PM PDT MON JUL 16 2012

...FABIO WEAKENS TO A TROPICAL STORM...


SUMMARY OF 200 PM PDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.7N 120.2W
ABOUT 700 MI...1125 KM WSW OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 330 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...992 MB...29.29 INCHES
How hot has it been in Indy in 2012? Answer: Nearly as warm as the 1961-1990 normal for Tulsa, Oklahoma.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/ClimateChange/co mment.html?entrynum=2
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:



cold winter for the US or for the keys?
a keys cold winter would really onlly be 5 degrees colder than summer anyway right?
NO SA, but a cold winter in the keys will Definitely mean a cold winter for the rest of the US. It has to get past them to come here. And we actually get down to 40 degrees with higher humidity than you are used to. Also it usually blows 30 knots when there is a cold front moving through. So it can get cold. Two years ago we were so cold here we had a large fish kill. The turtle hospital in Marathon received 150 sea turtles who were stunned by the cold.
Eastern Atlantic:


Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


2 guys got struck in GA after getting out of a boat and standing under a tree here in GA, one died.



Lighting caused this 4 alarm fire at a Apartment building in Bucks County PA, injuring 5 Firefighters and one police officer and also leaving thirty people homeless. This occurred within five miles of my house, too close for comfort

Link
Quoting kwgirl:
NO SA, but a cold winter in the keys will Definitely mean a cold winter for the rest of the US. It has to get past them to come here. And we actually get down to 40 degrees with higher humidity than you are used to. Also it usually blows 30 knots when there is a cold front moving through. So it can get cold. Two years ago we were so cold here we had a large fish kill. The turtle hospital in Marathon received 150 sea turtles who were stunned by the cold.


And the Snook season is still permanently closed here because of all the snook that died from the cold.

Quoting CaribBoy:


OMG 2012 is much drier than 2011 and 2010!! I want SOME good wet waves over the N islands of the Lesser Antilles :)


Agree. I also want to track if not a storm or hurricane,a strong wave that can bring squally weather to the Eastern Caribbean islands. In fact,some of the islands need badly rain as a drought is with them.
Quoting washingtonian115:
I've never really enjoyed it that much.All ways reminded me of a bath but with chlorine in it.


water with chlorine is the best, just not hot and bubbly
Quoting SouthTampa:


A good early season arctic blast could cause a tremendous lake-effect blizzard.
I and a handful of others have mentioned this a few times. The Great Lakes are storing up a tremendous amount of heat energy (and will be doing so for another two or three months), energy that could be released explosively under the right conditions. The fabled "Gales of November" may turn very interesting this year. Too, the lakes should be slower to freeze up as well, which means a longer lake effect season.
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLAGSTAFF AZ
139 PM MST MON JUL 16 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN FLAGSTAFF HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EAST CENTRAL COCONINO COUNTY IN NORTH CENTRAL ARIZONA...

* UNTIL 215 PM MST

* AT 136 PM MST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO OVER EAST
CENTRAL COCONINO COUNTY...OR 8 MILES NORTHEAST OF WUPATKI VISOTOR
CENTER...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 15 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
RURAL EASTERN COCONINO COUNTY AT 150 PM MST

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

WHEN A TORNADO WARNING IS ISSUED BASED ON DOPPLER RADAR...IT MEANS
THAT STRONG ROTATION HAS BEEN DETECTED IN THE STORM. A TORNADO MAY
ALREADY BE ON THE GROUND...OR IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP SHORTLY.

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

H YOUR HANDS.

&&

LAT...LON 3574 11113 3561 11106 3557 11128 3562 11130
TIME...MOT...LOC 2038Z 243DEG 11KT 3561 11121

$$

DB
We havent even mentioned tropics much today,
Fabio is 70mph and on the decline.

Everything else is empty.
Im so attached to weather that in calm spells there is nothing to do.

Not as bad as July 2007 though, for a while when there wasnt a storm, we didnt even have rain to track for the whole month.
(guess i could have tracked the exceptional drought)
678. JLPR2
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


Agree. I also want to track if not a storm or hurricane,a strong wave that can bring squally weather to the Eastern Caribbean islands. In fact,some of the islands need badly rain as a drought is with them.


At least my area in Puerto Rico seems to be back to normal in rainfall, in fact today is the first day in 8days without at least .15inches of rainfall. But with August getting closer tropical waves should start to roll off Africa stronger and might finally bring moisture to the NE Caribbean.
Quoting fmhurricane2009:
Link


For those of you that care to look, this is some information on me. My passion for weather burns through and trumps all of my troubles. I hope I can inspire you to power through what adversity comes at you. Don't Ever give up!

Have a nice evening,
FM


(This is a pic of a waterspout off of Sanibel Island this morning at 9:30)
Hey, Tyler. I live right down the road in Naples. Did you take that waterspout photo? I saw a couple of candidate clouds--tall, with a flat, rain-free base--over the water this morning (and the Glades this afternoon), but no funnels emerged.

Welcome, and good to have you here...
680. JLPR2
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


i dont get why people love jacuzzis, sitting it hot bubbling water.

Much rather go to sleep or something


Gasp!
Blasphemy! XD
Khanun:

Fabio:

Well, gotta sign off. See ya'll tomorrow.
Quoting fmhurricane2009:
Link


For those of you that care to look, this is some information on me. My passion for weather burns through and trumps all of my troubles. I hope I can inspire you to power through what adversity comes at you. Don't Ever give up!

Have a nice evening,
FM


(This is a pic of a waterspout off of Sanibel Island this morning at 9:30)
..cool pic there, a couple of years ago i looked out towards clearwater beach and there were two, side by side waterspouts, dark and menacing, good thing they did not come ashore
Quoting Civicane49:
Fabio:


It almost looks to be making a comeback... Convection has once again wrapped all the way around that eye feature after leaving the west side open earlier today... Not out if the question it gets upgraded to a hurricane again at 11 if the trend continues... Of course any restrengthening would be brief due to the cool waters and drier air.
Quoting spathy:


Just put a tether on it. Replacement parts are usually inexpensive if you got it from a good company.
Quoting spathy:


Now if a roof falls on it just click your heels a repeat.

The info I gathered was worth it.
The info I gathered was worth it....
So this sounds like

Cat 1-2, good to go...
Cat 3-5, take 'em down...

Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


if your roof falls you have worse problems
Could be somebody else's roof...

Quoting Waltanater:
Has there ever been any record of a tropical cyclone hitting Antarctica? Anyone know?
SERIOUSLY doubt this. Though I'm sure some of the post-tropical storms have entered the area, isn't there some kind of circumpolar jet down there that would disrupt just about anything making a run for landfall?

Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
What a storm that was! I have thus far received 2.46" since 2:00pm and it's still sprinkling. My entire neighborhood is flooded and actually flowing which I have never seen before in the 20 years I have lived here.

This month has to be one of the wettest for my immediate area on record. Too bad I just got my PWS going last week or I'd be able to know exactly how much has fallen. How are the storms coming on your side of the state tracker?
Ohhh... I'm SOOOO jealous.... I'm prolly going to have to wait until 2013 to get it together with anything here... but glad u have one at last...

Where is the Best place to see Water spouts?...................The Florida Keys "are the greatest, natural vortex lab in the world," says Joseph Golden, a senior National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist who has studied waterspouts extensively. "Waterspouts probably occur more frequently in the Florida Keys than anywhere in the world."

Waters around the Keys, especially from Marathon past Key West on westward to the Dry Tortugas, probably see 400 or 500 waterspouts a year. Since they are so common, most go unreported unless they cause damage.

Golden suspects so many waterspouts hit the Florida Keys because the weather and geography supply two necessary ingredients.

First, the islands and the shallow water along them help heat the air. During the summer, waterspout season, the air is extremely humid with temperatures in the mid-80s into the low 90s. The heat causes the air to rise. As it rises, the air's humidity condenses into the tiny water droplets that make up clouds.

As water vapor condenses, it releases more heat that makes the air rise even faster. Rising air currents are needed for waterspout formation.

The second important waterspout ingredient in the Keys seems to be the regular east or northeast "trade winds" that blow right down the islands. These winds help line up the clouds. Lines of clouds encourage waterspouts. Exactly how is one of the questions researchers are trying to answer.

Clouds that spawn waterspouts in the Keys are generally from around to 18,000 to 22,000 feet high. Golden says, waterspouts are likely to form when the clouds are growing upwards.

In the Keys, waterspouts are most likely to form between 4 and 7 p.m. with a secondary maximum from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. A few waterspouts form around sunrise.

After the Florida Keys, the next most active U.S. waterspout area is the southeast Florida Coast from around Stuart south to Homestead. Tampa Bay has the greatest number of damaging waterspouts, probably because the shores of the Bay are so built up.

Places around the Gulf of Mexico along with the Atlantic Coast northward to Chesapeake Bay are also likely to see waterspouts. Waterspouts have been reported on the West Coast from Tatoosh Island, Wash., south to San Diego, but they tend to be weak and short lived. Waterspouts also skip across the Great Lakes and Utah's Great Salt Lake from time to time.

By Jack Williams of USA TODAY
Quoting kwgirl:
Does anyone know this little Conchism? My friend says that a wet summer here in the Keys means a cold winter. I remember wet summers growing up here and I remember cold winters, but I am now too old to remember if the cold winter followed the wet summer.


You know it’s quiet in the tropics when we’re already talking about winter :)
689. MTWX
Anyone get to see the Auroras this weekend??

I'm too far south for this one, but have seen some great images coming from as far south as Arkansas!!
We need a storm to track soon..... I'm thinking the 2nd week in August...
Quoting LargoFl:
Rita..just saw on the news, 3 people in houston got hit by lightning while huddled under a tree during a sudden storm, 2 died the third is in critical condition
Don't pple know not to get under a tree in a thunderstorm??? Even if u don't get hit by lightning, trees can and DO fall!

This is a really sad story....

Quoting Neapolitan:
Hey, Tyler. I live right down the road in Naples. Did you take that waterspout photo? I saw a couple of candidate clouds--tall, with a flat, rain-free base--over the water this morning (and the Glades this afternoon), but no funnels emerged.

Welcome, and good to have you here...


No, I did not take that photo, I have several photos of waterspouts on Sanibel, but I don't live there (I just went to Elementary/Middle school there)
When does the cape Verde season kick in?
Quoting BahaHurican:
Don't pple know not to get under a tree in a thunderstorm??? Even if u don't get hit by lightning, trees can and DO fall!

This is a really sad story....

..experts also say, lie down if caught outside and stay 30 feet away from the next person, but best thing to do is Get Inside, and stay away from water and windows
Got nailed here once again, nearly 2 inches of rain earlier, another day, another downpour!
................................................. .hey stormtracker..you ok out there? orlando looks like its getting hammered pretty good
Excessive Heat Watch
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
413 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

...DANGEROUS HEAT TO BUILD INTO SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN TUESDAY...

.BREEZY SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS WILL BRING A HOT AIRMASS OUT OF THE
DAKOTAS AND INTO SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN ON TUESDAY. CONDITIONS
WILL WARM CONSIDERABLY DURING THE LATE MORNING ...WITH TEMPERATURE
READINGS LIKING REACHING 100 DEGREES DURING THE AFTERNOON. THE
AIRMASS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE EXCESSIVELY HUMID...BUT DEWPOINTS IN
THE MIDDLE 60S WOULD ALLOW HEAT INDICES TO APPROACH 105 DEGREES. A
STRONG COLD FRONT WILL SINK INTO PORTIONS OF THE CWA BEGINNING
TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND WILL PROVIDE RELIEF FOR MUCH OF THE AREA FOR
THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK.

MIZ047-048-053-060>063-068>070-075-076-082-083-17 0415-
/O.NEW.KDTX.EH.A.0002.120717T1500Z-120718T0300Z/
MIDLAND-BAY-SAGINAW-SHIAWASSEE-GENESEE-LAPEER-ST. CLAIR-
LIVINGSTON-OAKLAND-MACOMB-WASHTENAW-WAYNE-LENAWEE -MONROE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MIDLAND...BAY CITY...SAGINAW...OWOSSO...
FLINT...LAPEER...PORT HURON...HOWELL...PONTIAC...WARREN...
ANN ARBOR...DETROIT...ADRIAN...MONROE
413 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

...EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH
TUESDAY EVENING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DETROIT/PONTIAC HAS ISSUED AN
EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING
THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER...

* TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REACH AND EXCEED 100 DEGREES
TUESDAY AFTERNOON.

* HEAT INDICES ARE FORECASTED TO RANGE BETWEEN 102 AND 107
DEGREES.

IMPACTS...

* HEAT RELATED ILLNESS SUCH AS HEAT STROKE...HEAT EXHAUSTION...
AND DEHYDRATION WILL BE POSSIBLE

* THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF CONSECUTIVE HOT DAYS MAY ADD TO THE
HEAT STRESS OF THOSE MOST AFFECTED BY THE HOT TEMPERATURES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

* AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH MEANS THAT A PROLONGED PERIOD OF HOT
TEMPERATURES IS EXPECTED. THE COMBINATION OF HOT TEMPERATURES AND
HIGH HUMIDITY WILL COMBINE TO CREATE A DANGEROUS SITUATION IN
WHICH HEAT ILLNESSES ARE POSSIBLE. DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS...STAY
IN AN AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM...STAY OUT OF THE SUN...AND CHECK UP
ON RELATIVES AND NEIGHBORS.
Quoting Jedkins01:
Got nailed here once again, nearly 2 inches of rain earlier, another day, another downpour!
..yeah we have been getting some good rains lately
Quoting mcluvincane:
When does the cape Verde season kick in?



when its ready too right now it dos not want too it wants too sleep some more



shhhh done wake it up
Quoting wxchaser97:
Excessive Heat Watch
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
413 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

...DANGEROUS HEAT TO BUILD INTO SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN TUESDAY...

.BREEZY SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS WILL BRING A HOT AIRMASS OUT OF THE
DAKOTAS AND INTO SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN ON TUESDAY. CONDITIONS
WILL WARM CONSIDERABLY DURING THE LATE MORNING ...WITH TEMPERATURE
READINGS LIKING REACHING 100 DEGREES DURING THE AFTERNOON. THE
AIRMASS IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE EXCESSIVELY HUMID...BUT DEWPOINTS IN
THE MIDDLE 60S WOULD ALLOW HEAT INDICES TO APPROACH 105 DEGREES. A
STRONG COLD FRONT WILL SINK INTO PORTIONS OF THE CWA BEGINNING
TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND WILL PROVIDE RELIEF FOR MUCH OF THE AREA FOR
THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK.

MIZ047-048-053-060>063-068>070-075-076-082- 083-17 0415-
/O.NEW.KDTX.EH.A.0002.120717T1500Z-120718T0300Z/
MIDLAND-BAY-SAGINAW-SHIAWASSEE-GENESEE-LAPEER-ST. CLAIR-
LIVINGSTON-OAKLAND-MACOMB-WASHTENAW-WAYNE-LENAWEE -MONROE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MIDLAND...BAY CITY...SAGINAW...OWOSSO...
FLINT...LAPEER...PORT HURON...HOWELL...PONTIAC...WARREN...
ANN ARBOR...DETROIT...ADRIAN...MONROE
413 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

...EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH
TUESDAY EVENING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DETROIT/PONTIAC HAS ISSUED AN
EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING
THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER...

* TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO REACH AND EXCEED 100 DEGREES
TUESDAY AFTERNOON.

* HEAT INDICES ARE FORECASTED TO RANGE BETWEEN 102 AND 107
DEGREES.

IMPACTS...

* HEAT RELATED ILLNESS SUCH AS HEAT STROKE...HEAT EXHAUSTION...
AND DEHYDRATION WILL BE POSSIBLE

* THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF CONSECUTIVE HOT DAYS MAY ADD TO THE
HEAT STRESS OF THOSE MOST AFFECTED BY THE HOT TEMPERATURES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

* AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH MEANS THAT A PROLONGED PERIOD OF HOT
TEMPERATURES IS EXPECTED. THE COMBINATION OF HOT TEMPERATURES AND
HIGH HUMIDITY WILL COMBINE TO CREATE A DANGEROUS SITUATION IN
WHICH HEAT ILLNESSES ARE POSSIBLE. DRINK PLENTY OF FLUIDS...STAY
IN AN AIR-CONDITIONED ROOM...STAY OUT OF THE SUN...AND CHECK UP
ON RELATIVES AND NEIGHBORS.
..this setup is real bad for those who work outside all day long huh
T. PETERSBURG --
Thunderstorms are passed across southern Pinellas County and northern Hillsborough County this morning, and more rain is expected in the Bay area throughout the afternoon.

Small hail and gusty winds are even possible, Bay News 9 meteorologist Diane Kacmarik said.

"The atmosphere is just a little more unstable than usual since an upper-level low is just east of Jacksonville," Kacmarik said. "That helped the storms start early."

Between 11 a.m. and 12:30 p.m, heavy rain fell along the central and South Pinellas beach east to Pinellas Park and St. Petersburg. At one point, Klystron 9 radar showed a small rotation off the central Pinellas coast.

The USF and New Tampa areas also got heavy rain, as did Hernando County, from Spring Hill east to Brooksville. Some areas picked up two inches of precipitation.
Bay news 9 meteorologist Josh Linker said there's a potential for more severe storms this afternoon, mainly north of the Bay area, because the upper-level low comes with a cold pocket of air aloft. That low also is pushing the storms southward.
Quoting Tazmanian:



when its ready too right now it dos not want too it wants too sleep some more



shhhh done wake it up


Are we going to get a wrestling update tonight?
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

It almost looks to be making a comeback... Convection has once again wrapped all the way around that eye feature after leaving the west side open earlier today... Not out if the question it gets upgraded to a hurricane again at 11 if the trend continues... Of course any restrengthening would be brief due to the cool waters and drier air.

Fabio is making a comeback only very briefly. The convection should become less organized later today due to the unfavorable conditions.

Fabio is highly unlikely to get upgraded to a hurricane again because the cyclone is in cold sea surface temperatures and dry air, which these do not support the storm to strengthen and maintain.
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
What a storm that was! I have thus far received 2.46" since 2:00pm and it's still sprinkling. My entire neighborhood is flooded and actually flowing which I have never seen before in the 20 years I have lived here.

This month has to be one of the wettest for my immediate area on record. Too bad I just got my PWS going last week or I'd be able to know exactly how much has fallen. How are the storms coming on your side of the state tracker?


Last week on Wednesday, I had 4 inches of rain in one hour from a line of severe thunderstorms, we had some flooding from that. I also had around 2 inches on Tuesday, an inch on Thursday, and some lighter amounts on Friday and yesterday, and now near 2 inches today. I've now had about 25 inches of rain since June first, the term "rainy season" probably just doesn't cut it for us this year, lol. We are still on average a couple weeks from being about halfway through the rainy season, and the peak historically is still a while to come, I wonder how high the total will be here from June first into early October, lol.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Are we going to get a wrestling update tonight?




hi


John Cena has won his 1st $ in the bank
Quoting kwgirl:
Does anyone know this little Conchism? My friend says that a wet summer here in the Keys means a cold winter. I remember wet summers growing up here and I remember cold winters, but I am now too old to remember if the cold winter followed the wet summer.
Never heard that one before... but I bet it's possible to see if the correlation actually exists...



Quoting washingtonian115:
I've never really enjoyed it that much.All ways reminded me of a bath but with chlorine in it.
Gotta admit I prefer sauna to jacuzzi... more tropical??? lol

Quoting LargoFl:
Where is the Best place to see Water spouts?...................The Florida Keys "are the greatest, natural vortex lab in the world," says Joseph Golden, a senior National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist who has studied waterspouts extensively. "Waterspouts probably occur more frequently in the Florida Keys than anywhere in the world."

So how are the Keys different enough from the Bahamas to cause them to have more water spouts than we do? Or is it just that spouts in the Keys are more likely to be seen?
Quoting Jedkins01:


Last week, I had 4 inches of rain in one hour from a line of severe thunderstorms, we had serious flooding from that. I've now had around 25 inches of rain since June first, the term "rainy season" probably just doesn't cut it for us this year, lol. We are still on average a couple weeks from being about halfway through the rainy season, and the peak historically is still a while to come, I wonder how high the total will be here from June first into early October, lol.



These storms here NW of Orlando are putting out lots of CG's.
Miami NWS Discussion

IN FACT, THE FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW PWAT`S DROPPING TO
AROUND 1.25 INCHES ON THURSDAY WHICH WOULD RUN BELOW THE 25TH
PERCENTILE. THOSE LOW PWAT VALUES COMBINED WITH RISING 50H WILL
LOWER THE AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER AND ALLOW FOR CLIMBING AFTERNOON
TEMPS WELL INTO THE 90S ESPECIALLY INTERIOR AREAS. THUS, HEAT
INDICES WILL LIKELY BE IN THE RANGE OF 100-105 ALONG BOTH COASTS AND
105-109 OVER THE INTERIOR FOR BOTH WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.
Quoting fmhurricane2009:


No, I did not take that photo, I have several photos of waterspouts on Sanibel, but I don't live there (I just went to Elementary/Middle school there)
Well, it's a good one. Anyway, we look forward to having you on the forum--especially with the knowledge of past hurricanes the NP article said you possess. ;-)
Quoting LargoFl:
..this setup is real bad for those who work outside all day long huh
Not good for anyone.
Haven't looked at the models so far for the day... what's their take on the ULL heading N from here? Any chance of a spindown and yet another STS-to-TS type transition?
Quoting BahaHurican:
Never heard that one before... but I bet it's possible to see if the correlation actually exists...



Gotta admit I prefer sauna to jacuzzi... more tropical??? lol

So how are the Keys different enough from the Bahamas to cause them to have more water spouts than we do? Or is it just that spouts in the Keys are more likely to be seen?
..it think it has to do alot with geography and water levels etc
Quoting Jedkins01:


Last week on Wednesday, I had 4 inches of rain in one hour from a line of severe thunderstorms, we had serious flooding from that. I also had around 2 inches on Tuesday, an inch on Thursday, and some lighter amounts on Friday and yesterday, and now near 2 inches today. I've now had about 25 inches of rain since June first, the term "rainy season" probably just doesn't cut it for us this year, lol. We are still on average a couple weeks from being about halfway through the rainy season, and the peak historically is still a while to come, I wonder how high the total will be here from June first into early October, lol.
Well you never know, all the rain could just stop all of a sudden and we could enter a drought lol
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Miami NWS Discussion

IN FACT, THE FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW PWAT`S DROPPING TO
AROUND 1.25 INCHES ON THURSDAY WHICH WOULD RUN BELOW THE 25TH
PERCENTILE. THOSE LOW PWAT VALUES COMBINED WITH RISING 50H WILL
LOWER THE AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER AND ALLOW FOR CLIMBING AFTERNOON
TEMPS WELL INTO THE 90S ESPECIALLY INTERIOR AREAS. THUS, HEAT
INDICES WILL LIKELY BE IN THE RANGE OF 100-105 ALONG BOTH COASTS AND
105-109 OVER THE INTERIOR FOR BOTH WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.


I'm not buying that, I doubt PWs will get below the 1.5 to 1.75 range even on the drier days, it has been more moist all rainy season than often forecast. the PW has been about 2.1 to 2.3 since yesterday, it forecast to just be about 1.8 to 2 just a couple days ago.


While I do expect some drying of the atmosphere this week with coverage dropping down to isolated coverage, I'm highly suspicious of 1.25 inch PW's. We should only see 2 to 3 days of dryer weather too.
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Well you never know, all the rain could just stop all of a sudden and we could enter a drought lol



lol, I really doubt that, it seems like the "Florida of old" is returning to me.
692. fmhurricane2009 5:00 PM EDT on July 16, 2012

I’ve figured out a way to get past that,” [he] said. “Because there’s so many better things in life than just worrying about every little thing that comes up.”

Now this is definitely an attitude we need here in the blog!

Glad to have you here, Tyler.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Miami NWS Discussion

IN FACT, THE FCST SOUNDINGS SHOW PWAT`S DROPPING TO
AROUND 1.25 INCHES ON THURSDAY WHICH WOULD RUN BELOW THE 25TH
PERCENTILE. THOSE LOW PWAT VALUES COMBINED WITH RISING 50H WILL
LOWER THE AMOUNT OF CLOUD COVER AND ALLOW FOR CLIMBING AFTERNOON
TEMPS WELL INTO THE 90S ESPECIALLY INTERIOR AREAS. THUS, HEAT
INDICES WILL LIKELY BE IN THE RANGE OF 100-105 ALONG BOTH COASTS AND
105-109 OVER THE INTERIOR FOR BOTH WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.



LOL! Good luck with that forecast. Those guys at the NWS in Miami must have not looked at the models lately. I don't see anything with a PWAT of 1.25" anywhere over FL over the next couple of weeks.
Quoting Jedkins01:


I'm not buying that, I doubt PWs will get below the 1.5 to 1.75 range even on the drier days, it has been more moist all rainy season than often forecast. the PW has been about 2.1 to 2.3 since yesterday, it forecast to just be about 1.8 to 2 just a couple days ago.


While I do expect some drying of the atmosphere this week with coverage dropping down to isolated coverage, I'm highly suspicious of 1.25 inch PW's. We should only see 2 to 3 days of dryer weather too.


Correct...the end of the Discussion:

DEEPER LAYER
MOISTURE WILL ONCE AGAIN BE ON THE INCREASE TOWARDS THE WEEKEND SO
HIGHER CHANCES FOR RAIN WILL RETURN.
Observed at: Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 5:00 PM EDT Monday 16 July 2012
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 29.85 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 5

Temperature: 90.3°F
Dewpoint: 61.5°F
Humidity: 38 %
Wind: W 11 gust 19 mph
Humidex: 99
Quoting Jedkins01:


I'm not buying that, I doubt PWs will get below the 1.5 to 1.75 range even on the drier days, it has been more moist all rainy season than often forecast. the PW has been about 2.1 to 2.3 since yesterday, it forecast to just be about 1.8 to 2 just a couple days ago.


While I do expect some drying of the atmosphere this week with coverage dropping down to isolated coverage, I'm highly suspicious of 1.25 inch PW's. We should only see 2 to 3 days of dryer weather too.


Those guys at the NWS in Miami are not the best forecasters just saying.
Quoting LargoFl:
..it think it has to do alot with geography and water levels etc
This is what made me think u could expect a similar level of water spout activity on the Great Bahama Bank, expecially W of Andros... but that's the side that's not populated.
Quoting BahaHurican:
This is what made me think u could expect a similar level of water spout activity on the Great Bahama Bank, expecially W of Andros... but that's the side that's not populated.
might also be water temps in the shallow waters around the keys, guess they did their studies for a long time and found the keys as their number one spot
Quoting Jedkins01:



lol, I really doubt that, it seems like the "Florida of old" is returning to me.
I can't help feeling that this will become the anomaly and the other years we've been seeing of late will become the "new normal". If nothing else, I think the PDO, with its larger scale swings than ENSO, may have more of an influence on these longterm patterns than we currently recognise.

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
Observed at: Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 5:00 PM EDT Monday 16 July 2012
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 29.85 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 5

Temperature: 90.3°F
Dewpoint: 61.5°F
Humidity: 38 %
Wind: W 11 gust 19 mph
Humidex: 99


61 dewpoint at temp at 90 with a heat index of 99. LOL! Yeah right. Maybe the Canadians have there dewpoint scale calibrated different than our shere in the US as that would equate to a heat index of 92 here in FL.
.........................................might be some warnings going up soon for south florida along the east coast
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
514 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

FLZ073-173-174-162145-
COASTAL MIAMI DADE COUNTY FL FAR SOUTH MIAMI-DADE COUNTY FL INLAND
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY FL
514 PM EDT MON JUL 16 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIAMI HAS ISSUED A

* SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ADVISORY FOR...
SOUTHEASTERN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY

* UNTIL 545 PM EDT

* AT 513 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
STRONG THUNDERSTORM 7 MILES SOUTH OF HOMESTEAD MIAMI SPEEDWAY...AND
MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 10 MPH.

* THE STORM WILL AFFECT...
RURAL SOUTHEASTERN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY
AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THE PRIMARY IMPACTS WILL BE FREQUENT TO EXCESSIVE LIGHTNING AND GUSTY
WINDS OF 45 TO 55 MPH. LIGHTNING IS THE NUMBER ONE WEATHER RELATED
KILLER IN FLORIDA. TREES AND OPEN SHELTERS OFFER NO PROTECTION. THESE
WINDS CAN DOWN SMALL TREE LIMBS AND BRANCHES...AND BLOW AROUND
UNSECURED SMALL OBJECTS. SEEK SHELTER IN A SAFE BUILDING UNTIL THE
STORM PASSES.

ALSO...DEVELOPING IN AN ENVIRONMENT FAVORABLE FOR FUNNEL CLOUDS.

LAT...LON 2533 8024 2534 8028 2537 8027 2537 8030
2531 8037 2525 8039 2526 8042 2523 8042
2522 8048 2519 8049 2522 8058 2519 8059
2527 8068 2547 8044 2543 8032 2540 8032
2541 8028 2537 8028 2540 8025 2539 8022
TIME...MOT...LOC 2115Z 297DEG 8KT 2535 8040

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Quoting StormTracker2K:


61 dewpoint at temp at 90 with a heat index of 99. LOL! Yeah right. Maybe the Canadians have there dewpoint scale calibrated different than our shere in the US as that would equate to a heat index of 92 here in FL.
data copied from enviroment canada must be an error on there part i alter no data
storms almost on top of you miami, heed your warnings
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Those guys at the NWS in Miami are not the best forecasters just saying.
This has to be sarcastic...
Quoting LargoFl:
might also be water temps in the shallow waters around the keys, guess they did their studies for a long time and found the keys as their number one spot
Similar shallow depths are found W off Andros, IIRC [something I would like to look up, actually]. ONly major dif that strikes me is proximity to Cuba, which, I suppose, could increase instability over the Keys....
Quoting BahaHurican:
This has to be sarcastic...

I would hope so considering he's just an amateur at this like the rest of us and we don't go around bashing them.
Storms moving into the West Palm Beach area...

That thing next to Florida looks good.
hey y'all this is WxGeekVAs GF on his phone at the swim meet. I've heard a lot about this blog and the stuff you talk about and some cool people on here like Levi and tropical 13 who he talks to. y'all seem like a friendly bunch who like weather like he does! you all have fun!
BTW, the heavy rain didn't materialize in my area... we got some sprinkles, is all. Over on the north side I think it rained a bit more.
I'm surprised that no one is really paying attention to this blob?.Its an interesting feature.
Quoting washingtonian115:
That thing next to Florida looks good.


Thank you.
Quoting BahaHurican:
I can't help feeling that this will become the anomaly and the other years we've been seeing of late will become the "new normal". If nothing else, I think the PDO, with its larger scale swings than ENSO, may have more of an influence on these longterm patterns than we currently recognise.




We shall see...
Quoting washingtonian115:
I'm surprised that no one is really paying attention to this blob?.Its an interesting feature.


This was the post meant for you Grothar :)
Hello boys and girls.


Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


This was the post meant for you Grothar :)


You know what they say about payback, Geoffrey!!! :)
Quoting Grothar:


You know what they say about payback, Geoffrey!!! :)


Yes sir. I shall behave myself.
Quoting washingtonian115:
I'm surprised that no one is really paying attention to this blob?.Its an interesting feature.
It's raining on a whole bunch of us, which is prolly why we aren't talking much about it... lol... but I did ask earlier if the models had anything to say about it...
Quoting StormTracker2K:



These storms here NW of Orlando are putting out lots of CG's.


Yeah I was seeing that, we had a lot of lightning around here too, and of course radar estimates are about half to a fourth of actual totals as usual. The radar says I had about a half inch today, I had near 4 times that... The estimate at St. Petersburg/Clearwater airport is 0.25 to 0.50, the actually rainfall total today there is near 2 inches, so if you are looking at radar estimates you would be highly deceived lol.
next week the Atlantic will start to heat up as the GFS is showing a system or systems developing from a cold front.Hope it verifies 1 because I want something to track in the Atlantic as I am bored.2 because I like to track ts no matter form where it comes it doesn`t matter it forms from a cold front and 3 it help to increase the numbers for the season.
Quoting allancalderini:
next week the Atlantic will start to heat up as the GFS is showing a system or systems developing from a cold front.Hope it verifies 1 because I want something to track in the Atlantic as I am bored.2 because I like to track ts no matter form where it comes it doesn`t matter it forms from a cold front and 3 it help to increase the numbers for the season.


I would like fewer storms for a number of reasons.
1. ....

LOL who am I kidding I love seeing a lot of storms as long as they aren't killing people or destroying a lot of stuff.

And wait a second my GF posted on here? Haha I was letting her see something different and I guess she took the liberty to post... At least it wasnt anything too bad!
Good chunk of Sahara dust on its way to FL. Should be pretty hazy and dry here in South FL on Wednesday.


Tuesday Mostly sunny and hot, with a high near 103. West wind 10 to 16 mph. Thats really close to my all time record high.
in 2004 the first formation of a cyclone was in july 31- august 6
and the season total was 15 TS - 9 Hurricanes- 6 majors

Right now we have 4-1-0 and we are in july 16
so, take it easy




Quoting Jedkins01:


Yeah I was seeing that, we had a lot of lightning around here too, and of course radar estimates are about half to a fourth of actual totals as usual. The radar says I had about a half inch today, I had near 4 times that... The estimate at St. Petersburg/Clearwater airport is 0.25 to 0.50, the actually rainfall total today there is near 2 inches, so if you are looking at radar estimates you would be highly deceived lol.


Hey, Jed. At one time, the Guiness World Book of Records had Tampa-St. Petersburg as the longest stretch of maximum sunshine days in the world. I don't know if they still hold the record. I think it was in the 60's that it occurred. It would be something if someone could find that fact out.

(That is the 1960's by the way)

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1477
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0514 PM CDT MON JUL 16 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...E-CNTRL NV...SWRN UT...FAR NWRN AZ

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH UNLIKELY

VALID 162214Z - 162315Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...20 PERCENT

SUMMARY...TSTM STRENGTH IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE SLIGHTLY DURING THE
NEXT FEW HOURS ACROSS E-CNTRL NV...SWRN UT AND FAR NWRN AZ. AS A
RESULT...THERE WILL BE AN INCREASED THREAT OF SEVERE WIND/HAIL.
ISOLATED NATURE OF THE THREAT IS EXPECTED TO PRECLUDE THE NEED FOR A
WW.

DISCUSSION...LATEST RADAR TRENDS SHOW A GRADUALLY INCREASING
STRENGTH IN MUCH OF THE CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY ACROSS THE CNTRL GREAT
BASIN. ICX VAD DEPICTS AN INCREASE IN 5-6 KM WINDS AS A SUBTLE
SHORTWAVE TROUGH PROGRESSES THROUGH THE BASAL PORTION OF A MEAN
TROUGH OVER MUCH OF THE WRN CONUS. AS A RESULT...LATEST MESOANALYSIS
SHOWS EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR BETWEEN 20-30 KTS...WHICH IS SUFFICIENT
FOR MODEST STORM ORGANIZATION. LOW INSTABILITY /MLCAPE AROUND 1000
J/KG/ WILL LIKELY LIMIT OVERALL COVERAGE OF ORGANIZED CONVECTION BUT
A FEW CELLS SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRIEFLY ORGANIZE AND POSE A WIND/HAIL
THREAT. THE WELL-MIXED SUB-CLOUD LAYER...ESPECIALLY ACROSS SWRN
UT...WILL PRESUMABLY RESULT IN STRONG GUSTS AS THE PRIMARY SEVERE
THREAT. LIMITED COVERAGE OF SEVERE STORMS IS ANTICIPATED TO PRECLUDE
THE NEED FOR A WW.

..MOSIER/THOMPSON.. 07/16/2012
Quoting WxGeekVA:


I would like fewer storms for a number of reasons.
1. ....

LOL who am I kidding I love seeing a lot of storms as long as they aren't killing people or destroying a lot of stuff.

And wait a second my GF posted on here? Haha I was letting her see something different and I guess she took the liberty to post... At least it wasnt anything too bad!


i guard my phone with my life...
18z GFS:

Quoting MAweatherboy1:
18z GFS:



strung out vorticity and the GFS tries to consolidate it into 3 lows.
idk about that
Quoting Grothar:


Hey, Jed. At one time, the Guiness World Book of Records had Tampa-St. Petersburg as the longest stretch of maximum sunshine days in the world. I don't know if they still hold the record. I think it was in the 60's that it occurred. It would be something if someone could find that fact out.

(That is the 1960's by the way)



I'm not sure, but we do live in a unique area, I rarely see completely overcast days, even days that we get 5 inches of rain often have at least a few hours of full sun. For example, although we have had nearly 9 inches of rain in the last week, we have also had a lot of sun, which I really like! Overcast "rainy days" are not my style. I like warm sunny tropical days with an intense tropical downpour or strong thunderstorm. We probably get as much sun during the rainy season as during the dry season, lol. When we get rain during the dry season it's usually from fronts which bring a lot more bark then bite, a lot of wind and a lot of clouds for 2 days often only to have one or 2 lines of thunderstorms pass through and then back to dry and breeze, and sometimes still cloudy, at least during the winter with "gulf effect" cold air clouds.

12z UKMET 120 hours

florida.bahama.system.might.have.a.chance..might.be .a.yellow.tomorrow
Quoting Civicane49:
12z UKMET 120 hours

They all show a low coming off of Africa.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
18z GFS:

I see a low in the BOC.
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Apparently this was the aurora:
780. wxmod
Quoting Skyepony:


Totally agree. Improving harbor air pollution is atleast one step in the right direction. Have to wonder if lowest grades aren't being used more offshore since money will be lost using the more expensive stuff near shore though.


My hunch is that recycled plastic is being ground up and mixed with lowest grade bunker fuel and burned to propel ships. Most recycled plastic gets shipped to China. From there, who knows what happens to it. That would certainly make the smoke that creates huge clouds. It's pretty disgusting when it blows over the USA.
Out of sight and out of mind!
Quoting WunderAlertBot:
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
WonderBot is God.
Quoting wxmod:


My hunch is that recycled plastic is being ground up and mixed with lowest grade bunker fuel and burned to propel ships. Most recycled plastic gets shipped to China. From there, who knows what happens to it. That would certainly make the smoke that creates huge clouds. It's pretty disgusting when it blows over the USA.
Out of sight and out of mind!


I don't think so. NOAA is flying over & gathering right out these ships + there is a few satellites that can see exactly what is being released..It's high Sulfates. Burning poly plastics pretty much releases H20, CO & CO2. PVC types release dioxins. Smaller amounts of fillers, colors & such but not a lot of sulfates.

Saw Alaska was suing EPA for forcing the cleaner fuels near shore & cruise ships for the most part aren't complying. Interesting Article..
783. wxmod
This is a satellite photo of the Pacific Ocean west of the USA. There are hundreds of clouds that go in straight lines and many people suggest they are contrails. But these trails are at sea level, according to infrared photos. Some people have also suggested that these trails are emissions from ships. NASA says they are ship emissions that have formed into clouds. The trails are up to a hundred miles wide and thousands of miles long. I would certainly wonder why no one has done a study of these trails or their particle content or their effect on the environment. It's just amazing that nothing is ever said about the incredible lack of information about something that is obviously important to the whole world.

784. wxmod
People say they know what these clouds are. Some are positive there is no such thing as weather modification or geoengineering. There are some who are adamant that ships could not produce clouds. One thing is for sure. There are tons of straight line clouds all over the ocean today and NASA or NOAA could easily send some boats out there to see what these clouds are made of. But they're not. Don't you wonder why?

tropics getting heated soon
Remark: What I disputed, in fact, it is not just a single temperature of Greenland Ranch in July 1918, but virtually all data from Greenland Ranch from its start in 1911 to at least the late 20s-early 30s.
There are dozens of minimum temperatures of 110F between 1922 and 1924, all clear bogus, that's where I found some absurde jumps in temperatures.
Data from Greenland Ranch starts to be very linear and reliable since late 30s, when the instrument was also slightly moved and likely its installation adjusted.
Maximiliano