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Coldest air in nearly two years hits the Midwest U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:08 PM GMT on January 21, 2013

A blast of Arctic air more intense than anything experienced during the winter of 2011 - 2012 has descended over the Midwest U.S., bringing the coldest temperatures in nearly two years. The low hit -2°F Monday morning in Des Moines, Iowa, marking the first day since February 10, 2011 that Des Moines had dropped below zero. The 710 consecutive days the city had gone without reaching 0°F was the longest such streak on record (previous record: 368 straight days, beginning January 23, 1954.) In Minneapolis, the mercury dropped to -10°F Monday morning, the coldest day since February 10, 2011. With the high temperature not expected to get above zero Monday, the city will likely snap its record-long streak of just over four years without a high temperature above 0°F. The last time the high temperature at the Minneapolis airport was below zero was on January 15, 2009, when the thermometer climbed to only -6°F. The previous longest such streak since record keeping began in 1872 was a 3.1 year streak that ended in January 2004. Strong winds accompanying today's cold blast have dropped the wind chill to a dangerously cold -40 to -50°F across much of Minnesota and North Dakota. The wind chill bottomed out at -51°F at Langdon, North Dakota at 4:35 CST Monday morning, thanks to a temperature of -22° combined with a wind of 17 mph. The wind chill hit -46°F at nearby Devils Lake and -51° at Hamden. The lowest wind chill in Minnesota was at Le Center: -43°F. Brr!

Jeff Masters
Lake Effect
Lake Effect
Heavy snow squalls came through this morning, left a Winter Wonderland...
Snow bird
Snow bird
The little birds visited the feeder all day long, whilst the snow fell.
Frozen II.
Frozen II.
Frozen raindrops created during hours of freezing rain...

Winter Weather

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

yar... it be cold up here!!
Thanks Dr Masters
That was short and sweet!

And the photo is absolutely awesome
Thanks Dr. Masters, definitely getting very cold here.
Thanks, Dr. Masters.

Quote from the Official Presidential Inauguration Ceremony...

"We will respond to climate change, knowing failure to do so would be a disgrace to the children of future generations." -- President Barack H. Obama

Expecting highs in the mid- to upper 30s here tomorrow. Coldest air so far this winter. Warm up coming midweek, followed by an equally significant arctic outbreak for the weekend.
Winter temperatures have finally returned!
That is one very beautiful frost on window picture.
Thanks,Doc Masters, not much to be said except Brrrrrrr!!!!!.It has been a long time.Here in New England we've been spoiled,watch how many people start complaining about the snow and cold.
Thanks Doc,
when i checked an hour ago, it was 20F warmer at the North Pole than outside my door.. and we have full sun!
:P
edit: i have been corrected... darn it all internets and silly town names!!
Quoting Minnemike:
when i checked an hour ago, it was 20F warmer at the North Pole than outside my door.. and we have full sun!
:P






That's how it usually goes, Mike. Nothing Earth shattering there...





Quoting NEwxguy:
Thanks,Doc Masters, not much to be said except Brrrrrrr!!!!!.It has been a long time.Here in New England we've been spoiled,watch how many people start complaining about the snow and cold.





Still no snow for you, and no snow for you in the forecast.

Just no snow for you at all.

Understood?



Thanks Dr . Masters...good afternoon all!
Doc ~ What wonderful pictures you posted, yet again. What is up with that? TWC is really rubbing of on you, eh?
Thank you Dr. Masters. And such beautiful photos
Quoting nigel20:
Thanks Dr . Masters...good afternoon all!



Nigel, long time no see, My Friend. What's shaking these days down in Jamaica? Anything?



Thanks DRM. Y'all are some hardy souls up there. I'm cold just reading about it. :)
Quoting PedleyCA:
Thanks Doc,

Hey Pedley...it has been a while. What's up?
EDIT: Picture of 94S added.

Shortest blog ever! ;)

Thanks Dr. Masters!

Australia is getting active and is starting to spit these systems out. Garry moving to the north of American Samoa. Another area is still inland over Mozambique, and has held together very well. This is the system that was considered our "landphoon" over Botswana earlier in the week.




Quoting AtHomeInTX:
Thanks DRM. Y'all are some hardy souls up there. I'm cold just reading about it. :)



That's colder than Romo in December, eh?
ST. PETERSBURG --
It's about to get much cooler for a few days in west central Florida.

After a mild day today, a cold front will pass through the area tonight into Tuesday and will gradually drop the temperature by several degrees, Bay News 9 meteorologist Juli Marquez said.

"The much cooler air is on the other side of the front," Marquez said. "I think we’ll feel that Tuesday morning. So for a lot of people going back to work (after MLK Day), and for the kids going back to school, they’ll notice a difference. There will be quite a chill in the air."

Wednesday and Thursday mornings will be the coldest. Lows will be in the mid 40s around Tampa Bay and could get close to freezing in the north counties, Marquez said.

Thursday afternoon and Friday will be warmer, but another cold front is due by the weekend, and that one could bring a chance of rain.
Thanks Doc...


WINTER WEATHER UPDATE 74
______________________________

Southeast New England Snowstorm
Major Lake effect from Lake Erie

In Honor to Dr. MLK Jr.



click image for larger pic
And Oh My!!... What a beautiful voice Kelly Clarkson has while singing "My Country Tis of Thee " At the President's Inauguration
Thanks Dr. Masters... cold air is definitely arriving here now
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
And Oh My!!... What a beautiful voice Kelly Clarkson has while singing "My Country Tis of Thee " At the President's Inauguration



She does have quite the voice.



Quoting TomballTXPride:



Nigel, long time no see, My Friend. What's shaking these days down in Jamaica? Anything?




Hey Tom! We have been experiencing dry warm weather so far this winter.
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR NORTHERN DELAWARE...NORTHEAST
MARYLAND...SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

A LIGHT PRECIPITATION EVENT IS POSSIBLE LATE IN THE DAY. THERE
MAY BE A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW AT FIRST, CHANGING TO ALL SNOW AFTER
DARK. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF A DUSTING TO AN INCH ARE POSSIBLE AND
THE SNOW MAY AFFECT THE LATE PART OF THE EVENING COMMUTE.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

THE PROBABILITY FOR WIDESPREAD HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS LOW.
Thanks Doc
Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 12:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 29.9 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 19.8°F
Dewpoint: 5.7°F
Humidity: 54 %
Wind: WSW 13 mph
Wind Chill: 7
Quoting cyclonekid:
Shortest blog ever! ;)

Thanks Dr. Masters!

Australia is getting active and is starting to spit these systems out. Garry moving to the north of American Samoa. Another area is still inland over Mozambique, and has held together very well. This is the system that was considered our "landphoon" over Botswana earlier in the week.







I guess with cold air, there's no climate change agenda attached, huh? Probably why it is so short and sweet...



Quoting nigel20:

Hey Tom! We have been experiencing dry warm weather so far this winter.




Seems like you all down there are experiencing much of what the CONUS had all of 2012.

Good to hear from you, Old Friend!






At Home in Texas. Just a bad joke about Romo. I actually really like him. He'll get it together next year!!


Quoting Minnemike:
when i checked an hour ago, it was 20F warmer at the North Pole than outside my door.. and we have full sun!
:P
That may or not be true. Here are two weather stations very close to the north pole.

Weather for Kaffeklubben Island, Greenland
-25°F |
Mostly Sunny
Clear
Wind: NE at 6 mph
Humidity: 80%

Alert Airport (CYLT)
Elevation
102 ft
Now
Partly Cloudy
Temperature
-31 °F
Feels Like -53 °F
Wind(mph)
9

You may have been looking at North Pole, AK which is 9F above zero.
TWC...

after the boulder took a detour...

Quoting TomballTXPride:




Seems like you all down there are experiencing much of what the CONUS had all of 2012.

Good to hear from you, Old Friend!




Same here!
Central NC may see its second winter weather event of the season by the end of the week...

THE OPERATIONAL MODELS INCLUDING THE 00Z/EC HAVE TRENDED A BIT SOUTHWARD WITH THE TRACK OF THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM (NOW EASTWARD THROUGH THE LOWER OH VALLEY INTO THE WVA/VA MOUNTAINS AND ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC STATES FRIDAY. OF STRONG INTEREST FOR OUR REGION IS THE POTENTIAL THAT THE MODELS ARE NOT LATCHING ONTO A POTENTIAL CAD EVENT LATE THU NIGHT INTO FRIDAY... ANY PRECIPITATION THAT
DEVELOPS/OVERSPREADS THE PIEDMONT EARLY FRIDAY WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO LOCK THE COLD AIR IN PLACE. THE MODELS ALSO APPEAR A BIT QUICK IN SHIFTING THE COLD AIR OFFSHORE AND TOO STRONG WITH THE WAA AT THE
SURFACE FRIDAY. THEREFORE... IT APPEARS THAT A CAD EVENT IS DEFINITELY POSSIBLE FRIDAY... ALONG WITH AT LEAST SOME CHANCE OF LIGHT WINTERY PRECIPITATION IN THE NW (PIEDMONT DAMMING REGION).
Quoting nymore:
That may or not be true. Here are two weather stations very close to the north pole.

Weather for Kaffeklubben Island, Greenland
-25°F |
Mostly Sunny
Clear
Wind: NE at 6 mph
Humidity: 80%

Alert Airport (CYLT)
Elevation
102 ft
Now
Partly Cloudy
Temperature
-31 °F
Feels Like -53 °F
Wind(mph)
9

You may have been looking at North Pole, AK which is 9F above zero.
when googling, i made an effort to avoid N.P. Alaska.. well that failed!
The map froze...lol


I thought you all may find this interesting. Vortex on Lake Ontario:

Ooops, link not working.

How do I share a radar animation?

Look at radar KROC between 10AM and 12:30PM Jan 21st.

Happens when there is a great deal of instability and the winds are just right. Watch today, there are bound to be more!
Quoting Minnemike:
when googling, i made an effort to avoid N.P. Alaska.. well that failed!




Gotta be careful when doing that. Lot of garbage and junk out there. Lots of mis-information. How long you been using the internet?? Are you a newbie??
Hopefully the radar site works.

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID =BUF®ion=a5&lat=42.87516022&lon=-77.46228027&la bel=Holcomb%2c%20NY
Quoting nigel20:

Hey Pedley...it has been a while. What's up?


Just happy we are having some decent weather. Been over 70 for 4 days. So back in the normal range. We had a cold spell. Nothing like what they are reporting today but very nasty to us in SoCal.
Good to see you dropped in to say HI. How is Jamaica doing after the storm? Did you get any damage where you were?
Quoting dabirds:
It's cold in C IL this a.m. and they've dropped tomorrow's low to 5 - almost as cold as the Wings were in StL Sat. night 97 (sorry couldn't resist)

Also, a RIP to one of the greatest gentlemen to ever grace this planet, Stan "The Man" Musial.


From last blog.

Also, great article on stltoday.com from Bernie Miklasz for those interested in more on Stan.

Not liking that change in forecast to freezing rain Thursday, nothing I hate more.
Here's an embedded view of that radar image showing the vortex forming over Lake Ontario:



Pretty cool! Thanks for pointing it out, Liquidsquid.


In order to post a radar image like this I set up the radar how I want it, then click "View/Save this image", go to that page and copy the link, then when you come here to the blog to post it, hit the "Image" button above the compose window and paste the link there.
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MILWAUKEE/SULLIVAN WI
419 AM CST MON JAN 21 2013

WIZ046-047-051-052-056>060-062>072-221030-
MARQUETTE-GREEN LAKE-FOND DU LAC-SHEBOYGAN-SAUK-COLUMBIA-DODGE-
WASHINGTON-OZAUKEE-IOWA-DANE-JEFFERSON-WAUKESHA-M ILWAUKEE-
LAFAYETTE-GREEN-ROCK-WALWORTH-RACINE-KENOSHA-
419 AM CST MON JAN 21 2013

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF EAST CENTRAL
WISCONSIN...SOUTH CENTRAL WISCONSIN AND SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

A WIND CHILL ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT TODAY FOR SOUTH CENTRAL AND
EAST CENTRAL WISCONSIN AND THEN EXPANDS TO INCLUDE SOUTHEAST
WISCONSIN TONIGHT. WIND CHILLS WILL RANGE FROM 10 BELOW ZERO TO 30
BELOW ZERO WITH COLDEST READINGS TONIGHT.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY

THE WIND CHILL ADVISORY WILL CONTINUE UNTIL NOON TUESDAY FOR
SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AS WIND CHILL TEMPERATURES OF 15 BELOW TO 25 BELOW
ZERO ARE EXPECTED. BELOW ZERO WIND CHILLS WILL THEN LINGER THROUGH
WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL NOT BE NEEDED IN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS.

$$


------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------

Quoting TomballTXPride:




I guess with cold air, there's no climate change agenda attached, huh? Probably why it is so short and sweet...





there will be a new GW blog in a few hrs watch

lol
Quoting TomballTXPride:
Doc ~ What wonderful pictures you posted, yet again. What is up with that? TWC is really rubbing of on you, eh?


...maybe it has something to do with the more than a million images in the WU photo galleries. No need to insult our host.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


there will be a new GW blog in a few hrs watch

lol


Keep ~ Think you might be one to something. LOL


Quoting indianrivguy:


...maybe it has something to do with the more than a million images in the WU photo galleries. No need to insult our host.



Who's insulting who??



Quoting indianrivguy:


...maybe it has something to do with the more than a million images in the WU photo galleries. No need to insult our host.


agreed...
Quoting PedleyCA:


Just happy we are having some decent weather. Been over 70 for 4 days. So back in the normal range. We had a cold spell. Nothing like what they are reporting today but very nasty to us in SoCal.
Good to see you dropped in to say HI. How is Jamaica doing after the storm? Did you get any damage where you were?

Most of Jamaica was OK except for the NE end of the island which was heavily damaged. Only a few downed trees and light poles.
Quoting hydrus:

Hey hydrus...what's up?

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
1011 AM EST MON JAN 21 2013

.LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...
THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM IS FCST TO DEVELOP ON THE SRN FLANK OF THE
ARCTIC AIRMASS THAT IS OVER THE GREAT PLAINS WED NGT AND THU. THERE
IS A LARGE MODEL SPREAD REGARDING THE TRACK OF THE LOW AS IT
PROGRESSES DOWNSTREAM WITH A TRACK AS FAR SOUTH AS THE MID-ATLANTIC
REGION AND AS FAR NW AS THE GREAT LAKES THU NGT INTO FRI. THE
POSITION OF THE LOW AND THE RETREATING ARCTIC HIGH WILL PLAY A BIG
ROLE IN DETERMINING WHAT PTYPES WE GET IN OUR AREA. A WINTRY MIX OF
SN/IP/FZRA ARE ALL IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. A WARMER...MORE
NRN SOLUTION WITH THE TRACK OF THE SFC LOW WOULD FAVOR AN ICING
THREAT...ALTHOUGH SFC TEMPS MAY EVENTUALLY WARM ABOVE FREEZING IN
SOME SPOTS DURING THE DAY FRI AND PTYPE WOULD CHANGE OVER TO RAIN. A
SRN TRACK WOULD FAVOR MORE OF A SN/IP CHANGING TO FZRA MIX WITH
WINTRY PRECIP PERSISTING THRUOUT THE EVENT.

THE ARCTIC HIGH WILL BUILD BACK INTO THE AREA DURING THE WEEKEND.
TEMPS WILL REMAIN WELL BELOW NORMAL DURING THIS TIME.
Quoting nigel20:

Hey hydrus...what's up?
Business as usual. Cold tonight here tonight with the low expected at 10 to 12 degrees.
Quoting indianrivguy:


...maybe it has something to do with the more than a million images in the WU photo galleries. No need to insult our host.
IRG... Went out of Boynton Inlet yesterday.... Some nice Porgies, Triggerfish, and a few small Mutton..... Too,too many blue runners... Nice mess for a family fish fry .
Ryan Maue‏@RyanMaue

.MT @Tony_Wells GFS uncorks 918 mb extratropical low near Greenland on Day 5 ...Would be number 3 strongest since 1979 http://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/293401638356529 152/photo/1
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
IRG... Went out of Boynton Inlet yesterday.... Some nice Porgies, Triggerfish, and a few small Mutton..... Too,too many blue runners... Nice mess for a family fish fry .
I get tired of the blue critters stealing my bait....Even when I wrap it with oatmeal.:)
Quoting hydrus:
I get tired of the blue critters stealing my bait....Even when I wrap it with oatmeal.:)
My bf saves them... He can go to the local marina and sell them as chum.... I think $12 for a 5 pound bucket... Pays for gas
Hope the NAM is right Keep, most of that freezing rain will stay north of us if correct. Regardless, hope it changes to snow, sleet, or just rain by then.
Quoting hydrus:
I get tired of the blue critters stealing my bait....Even when I wrap it with oatmeal.:)
hydrus... Your blue runner may be a different species than our blue runner... The one here in south Florida is a member of the Jack Crevalle family... Great fighter but not a good fish to eat.
Quoting dabirds:
Hope the NAM is right Keep, most of that freezing rain will stay north of us if correct. Regardless, hope it changes to snow, sleet, or just rain by then.


we will know better by 36 hrs from now get a few more runs to fine tune it iam expecting an all snow event over lakes with frz rain south of there

this one looks not that bad maybe 15 to 20 cm total snowfall the next one for mid next week may prove to be a strong system

we shall see i guess
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
hydrus... Your blue runner may be a diffrent species than our blue runner... The one here in south Florida is a memeber of the Jack Crevalle family... Great fighter but not a good fish to eat.
Actually I am speaking of the very fish you are..When I seek snapper and other tasty fish for dinner, I need to get the bait into deep water. Before I can get it to the desired depth, Blue Runners usually rip me off. So I cake it with oatmeal to fool them into eating that rather then my bait.
Quoting MrMixon:
Here's an embedded view of that radar image showing the vortex forming over Lake Ontario:



Pretty cool! Thanks for pointing it out, Liquidsquid.


In order to post a radar image like this I set up the radar how I want it, then click "View/Save this image", go to that page and copy the link, then when you come here to the blog to post it, hit the "Image" button above the compose window and paste the link there.


Ah, the image tags. Should have known. Thanks!
hydrus... It's is amazing that many of the fish species have local slang names.. A fish in Tenn. may have the same name as the one in Florida but it may be a total different fish... A popular freshwater fish is the "Crappie" in Ohio.. In Florida it is know as the Speckled Perch (Speck) Gets confusing
this is next wed jan 30 thur feb 1st dipiction

Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
hydrus... It's is amazing that many of the fish species have local slang names.. A fish in Tenn. may have the same name as the one in Florida but it may be a total different fish... A popular freshwater fish is the "Crappie" in Ohio.. In Florida it is know as the Speckled Perch (Speck) Gets confusing
This is true. Growin up in South Florida, I have heard odd names for many of them...Especially " SheepsHead "..:)
Quoting hydrus:
Actually I am speaking of the very fish you are..When I seek snapper and other tasty fish for dinner, I need to get the bait into deep water. Before I can get it to the desired depth, Blue Runners usually rip me off. So I cake it with oatmeal to fool them into eating that rather then my bait.
hydrus... Squid is the bait of choice here for the bottom fish.... Sardines for the Kings
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
hydrus... Squid is the bait of choice here for the bottom fish.... Sardines for the Kings
AAHHHH..The sound of home..:)
Quoting hydrus:
This is true. Growin up in South Florida, I have heard odd names for many of them...Especially " SheepsHead "..:)
Bandit Fish here
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
IRG... Went out of Boynton Inlet yesterday.... Some nice Porgies, Triggerfish, and a few small Mutton..... Too,too many blue runners... Nice mess for a family fish fry .



Sounds like a nice fish fry to me. I really like Triggerfish, tastes very sweet to me.

I work part time at the Snook Nook for Happy Henry and had a customer give me some whiting this am. Good eatin', be doing them up tomorrow with some cheese grits, fried green tomatoes, and onion rings.. my mouth is watering like Pavlov's dog as I write.
Quoting hydrus:
This is true. Growin up in South Florida, I have heard odd names for many of them...Especially " SheepsHead "..:)
hydrus...Where are you now???
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
hydrus...Where are you now???
Middle Tennessee on the Cumberland Plateau. Warren County.
Quoting indianrivguy:



Sounds like a nice fish fry to me. I really like Triggerfish, tastes very sweet to me.

I work part time at the Snook Nook for Happy Henry and had a customer give me some whiting this am. Good eatin', be doing them up tomorrow with some cheese grits, fried green tomatoes, and onion rings.. my mouth is watering like Pavlov's dog as I write.
"Happy Henry"??????
Quoting liquidsquid:


Ah, the image tags. Should have known. Thanks!


If you are wanting to show something specific, you need to save it, host it, post it. Otherwise, it is a live link and continues to update.

Be back later.
Quoting hydrus:
Middle Tennessee on the Cumberland Plateau. Warren County.
Home of the Striped Bass, Stripers,Wipers, and 10 other slang names
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
"Happy Henry"??????


Henry Caimotto, Snook Nook owner since 1984.

Quoting indianrivguy:


Henry Caimotto, Snook Nook owner since 1984.

Listen to him every Saturday morning... You know Dano? I was friends with Lexxus til she got axed
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Listen to him every Saturday morning... You know Dano? I was friends with Lexxus til she got axed
She disappeared from me when she got married ..again and again
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


One heck of a cold snap...




Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Listen to him every Saturday morning... You know Dano? I was friends with Lexxus til she got axed
Oooops, resigned
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Listen to him every Saturday morning... You know Dano? I was friends with Lexxus til she got axed


Henry is one of my favorite folks in all the world. He supported me for Indian Riverkeeper, and is on my Board.

Yea, I know him. A VERY funny man, a pure pleasure to be around. I have worked backstage for several Love Doctors shows.. Lexxus is something to behold in action. My girl busted me looking.. she told me. "you better not close your eyes tonight, not even once.."
Quoting indianrivguy:


Henry is one of my favorite folks in all the world. He supported me for Indian Riverkeeper, and is on my Board.

Yea, I know him. A VERY funny man, a pure pleasure to be around. I have worked backstage for several Love Doctors shows.. Lexxus is something to behold in action. My girl busted me looking.. she told me. "you better not close your eyes tonight, not even once.."
Lexxus is a beautiful woman... Her "blonde" attitude didn't worked for many listeners... Actually she is very intelligent.. (It was a money thing) Haven't heard from her in a few months. Hope her new marriage is going well....
Wonderful! They have a place called The Coffee Club Island! I almost want to move there :-)

Quoting nymore:
That may or not be true. Here are two weather stations very close to the north pole.

Weather for Kaffeklubben Island, Greenland
-25°F |
Mostly Sunny
Clear
Wind: NE at 6 mph
Humidity: 80%

Alert Airport (CYLT)
Elevation
102 ft
Now
Partly Cloudy
Temperature
-31 °F
Feels Like -53 °F
Wind(mph)
9

You may have been looking at North Pole, AK which is 9F above zero.
Levi mentioned this the other day, but if you didn't hear, there's a possibility of an absolute bomb of a storm blowing up over the far north Atlantic in a few days, kind of like what we had in the far NW Pacific a few days ago, except maybe even stronger. Check out the 12z GFS!

Quoting indianrivguy:


Henry is one of my favorite folks in all the world. He supported me for Indian Riverkeeper, and is on my Board.

Yea, I know him. A VERY funny man, a pure pleasure to be around. I have worked backstage for several Love Doctors shows.. Lexxus is something to behold in action. My girl busted me looking.. she told me. "you better not close your eyes tonight, not even once.."
Been to Conchy Joe's many times... They just opened a Mulligan's here near me in lake Worth on the beach...
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Levi mentioned this the other day, but if you didn't here, there's a possibility of an absolute bomb of a storm blowing up over the far north Atlantic in a few days, kind of like what we had in the far NW Pacific a few days ago, except maybe even stronger. Check out the 12z GFS!



wow...this storm could stand close to the all time record low 913 mb storm of 1990s
NW wind in full effect when went out for lunch, truck said 15, WU says 17.4, wind chill 2 w/ 17mph wind, gusts have hit 23 so far, so imagine below 0 once hit 20+. Hope they die down before tomorrow a.m.'s low. It'll be awfully cold for the kids going back to school.
Big warm up expected in a little over a week.



Cold is back by the beginning of February.



...sticks around too.


Weather Station Riverside (KRAL)
Elevation 817 ft
Now
Clear
Clear
Temperature
75.9 °F
Feels Like 70 °F
Wind(mph)
8.1

Forecast is 79 Time right now is 11:04PST
overcast but nice outside right now...........
cover those plants north of tampa mid week...........
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA
951 AM EST MON JAN 21 2013

PAZ007>009-212300-
/O.CON.KPBZ.WW.Y.0003.130121T1700Z-130123T1100Z/
/O.CON.KPBZ.WC.Y.0001.130122T0300Z-130123T1600Z/
MERCER-VENANGO-FOREST-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SHARON...HERMITAGE...GROVE CITY...
GREENVILLE...FARRELL...OIL CITY...FRANKLIN...SUGARCREEK...
TIONESTA
951 AM EST MON JAN 21 2013

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
WEDNESDAY...
...WIND CHILL ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING
TO 11 AM EST WEDNESDAY...

* ACCUMULATIONS...6 TO 10 INCHES OF SNOW THROUGH WEDNESDAY
MORNING...PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE
COUNTIES.

* TIMING...SNOW WILL DEVELOP BY AROUND NOON. THE HEAVIEST SNOW
IS EXPECTED TO FALL MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY...WITH SNOW
DIMINISHING TUESDAY NIGHT.

* WIND CHILL VALUES...NEAR 10 BELOW ZERO TONIGHT AND TUESDAY
NIGHT.

* TEMPERATURES...LOWS TONIGHT AND TUESDAY NIGHT WILL BE BETWEEN 5
AND 10 DEGREES ABOVE ZERO. HIGHS WILL BE IN THE LOWER TEENS ON
TUESDAY.

* WINDS...WEST 10 TO 20 MPH...WITH GUSTS TO 30 MPH.

* MAIN IMPACT...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO
SNOW COVERED ROADS AND REDUCED VISIBILITY.
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR THE MARYLAND PORTION OF THE
CHESAPEAKE BAY...TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER...AND ADJACENT COUNTIES IN
CENTRAL MARYLAND AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA.

.DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT

AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE BALTIMORE-
WASHINGTON METRO AREA THIS EVENING. THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO BRING
SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS TO THE REGION THIS EVENING. THE SCATTERED
SNOW SHOWERS MAY PRODUCE LOCALIZED SNOW ACCUMULATIONS UP TO HALF
AN INCH...AND BRIEFLY REDUCE VISIBILITIES TO BELOW ONE- HALF MILE.
REMAINING MOISTURE FROM ANY SNOW SHOWER WILL QUICKLY ICE OVER AS
COLD AIR POURS IN BEHIND THE FRONT.

COLDER TEMPERATURES AND GUSTY WINDS WILL PRODUCE LOW WIND CHILLS
IN THE POSITIVE SINGLE DIGITS AND LOW TEENS TONIGHT.

A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FOR THE TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER
AND MARYLAND CHESAPEAKE BAY THIS AFTERNOON. A GALE WARNING IS IN
EFFECT FOR THE LOWER TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER AND MARYLAND CHESAPEAKE
BAY BEGINNING THIS EVENING...WHILE THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY
CONTINUES ON THE MIDDLE AND UPPER TIDAL POTOMAC OVERNIGHT.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY

A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FOR ALL WATERS THROUGH
WEDNESDAY.

THE COMBINATION OF LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY AND GUSTY WINDS WILL
PRODUCE AN ENHANCED THREAT FOR THE SPREAD OF FIRES ON TUESDAY.

A STORM SYSTEM IS ANTICIPATED TO AFFECT THE MID-ATLANTIC IN THE
THURSDAY NIGHT TO FRIDAY TIMEFRAME AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
PRODUCE A WINTRY MIX ACROSS THE AREA.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

$$
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Big warm up expected in a little over a week.



Cold is back by the beginning of February.



...sticks around too.

Hopefully this meant we can have chances at snowstorm here in North Carolina.
This is the storm system for next week. In this run, it is an all snow to mostly snow event in Metro Detroit.
12z GFS:


This is a good blog on winter tornado outbreaks. The largest winter tornado outbreak occurred 14 years ago on this date in 1999, mostly in Arkansas.

Link
Quoting dabirds:
Hope the NAM is right Keep, most of that freezing rain will stay north of us if correct. Regardless, hope it changes to snow, sleet, or just rain by then.


Discussions say they have low confidence in the forecast of this storm. Models are eroding arctic air away way too quickly out ahead of this current system is the current thinking. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. I don't think there will be a lot of moisture for it to work with though, so it should keep whatever precipitation falls at advisory criteria or less, but it's still aways out and things can most certainly change.

MODELS HAVE TRENDED SLOWER WITH THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WHICH IS
FORECASTED TO TRACK ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY. THERE ARE ALSO SOME
ISSUES WITH THE NAM AND GFS BEING A LITTLE TOO QUICK TO ERODE THE
ARCTIC AIR ACROSS OUR REGION THURSDAY EVENING. MOST GFS
ENSEMBLES...GEM AND EURO BRING THE ZERO 850 MB LINE INTO SOUTHERN
INDIANA AND PRECIP ACROSS OUR FAR SOUTH WILL LIKELY START OUT A
MIXTURE OF FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET AND THEN CHANGE TO ALL SNOW LATE
TONIGHT. THERE COULD BE A BAND OF 3 TO 4 INCHES OF SNOW WITH THIS
SYSTEM ACROSS PARTS OF OUR REGION.

Hopeful it will return to the snow forecast ILwthr, 97's model shows some more next midweek, though you're closer to the rain line. Just don't want to see freezing rain, sleet is not so bad, at least usually some traction and far less falling limbs/power outages.
Meanwhile, North Carolina is facing another minor winter storm this Friday/Saturday according to Euro.

Hi everyone! Just thought you guys might want to check this blog post that I made. :D

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/WunderGirl12/com ment.html?entrynum=2

Thanks!

WunderGirl12
latest gfsx

Quoting Bluestorm5:
Meanwhile, North Carolina is facing another minor winter storm this Friday/Saturday according to Euro.



Someone better tell Washington115 to knock on wood!
Please snow on Friday...please.

WEATHER FORECAST FOR NORTHERN NYC SUBURBS
___________________

700/850 mb gfsx



Thanks Dr M for choosing my photo for your blog......

For all who ask, it is a robin - a European robin - shivering it the cold icy blast we are getting from Siberia.
Quoting WunderGirl12:
Hi everyone! Just thought you guys might want to check this blog post that I made. :D

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/WunderGirl12/com ment.html?entrynum=2

Thanks!

WunderGirl12





You are more than welcome, WunderGirl12. :)

-Ainslie



Gonna be freeze warnings out tonight northern Georgia..
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE AREA TODAY. A CANADIAN
ARCTIC AIR MASS WILL MOVE INTO THE REGION BEHIND THE FRONT. BRISK
NORTHWEST WINDS AND FALLING TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN WIND CHILL VALUES AS
LOW AS 5 DEGREES BELOW ZERO IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF NORTH
CAROLINA MOUNTAINS TONIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

CONTINUED BRISK NORTHWEST WINDS IN A COLD ARCTIC AIR MASS OVER THE
REGION WILL RESULT IN WIND CHILL VALUES IN THE SINGLE DIGITS
BELOW ZERO OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF NORTH CAROLINA MOUNTAINS TUESDAY
NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY MORNING.
great images KEEPEROFTHEGATE thanks!!, they move as fast they look so cool..

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
700/850 mb gfsx



Quoting wxchaser97:
This is the storm system for next week. In this run, it is an all snow to mostly snow event in Metro Detroit.
12z GFS:




Oh damn. Shows the low in the last frame smack over my house. That is when we get the slop sleet/freezing rain/ruined skiing snow.
Extreme cold, I hope the homeless have a place to stay. Sadley, no mention of that on the news.

I keep feeding the birds here, but much warmer considering the upper midwest. I hope all are safe there.
Classic Norlun trough situation evolving tonight in MA. Looks like a general 2-6 inches with higher amounts at the coast but someone should come away with a foot, all depending on where the heavy band(s) sets up. Most likely location would be just north of Boston or far SE MA:

On the way back down now, maybe a little cloud cover moves in and keeps the bottom from dropping out tonight. 2 is the current dew point, winds seem to have let up a little, wc only 8 now, around 16 currently.

For any Stan the Man fans, public visitation will be 2-8 Thurs. @ Cathedral Basilica. There also will be a procession from Cathedral to ballpark after the 11 a.m. service on Sat. Family will lay a wreath at the statue before proceeding for private burial service.

Forgot to RIP another great St. Louisian, HOF manager Earl Weaver. Saw the HOF said that was the first time they lost two within 24hrs.
we now have winter storm Jove from TWC
Quoting Astrometeor:
Please snow on Friday...please.

Where are you at Astro?? i'm out here a little west of Nashville...
Pretty nice snowstorm to end the week for the Northeast

Riverside, California (Airport)
Updated: 15 min 44 sec ago
Clear
80 °F
Clear
Humidity: 5%
Dew Point: 4 °F
Wind: 9 mph from the NE
Pressure: 30.01 in (Falling)
Visibility: 10.0 miles
UV: 3 out of 16
Pollen: 8.10 out of 12
Pollen Forecast new!
Clouds:
Clear -
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 817 ft

I have 76.1 at my place.
WINTER STORM JOVE!!!

Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
WINTER STORM JOVE!!!

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:




you two are a little late i saw it 1st
Breaking News! We have winter storm Jove!
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Breaking News! We have winter storm Jove!




you are all so late



i saw it 1st
Miami NWS Disco

THE LATE WEEK PERIOD REMAINS UNCERTAIN, THOUGH FORECAST CONFIDENCE
HAS INCREASED SOMEWHAT BASED ON MODEL TRENDS. THE REASON BEING
THAT THE ECWMF SOLUTIONS OFF BOTH THE 21.00Z AND 21.12Z RUNS HAVE
TRENDED TOWARDS THE GFS SOLUTION (AND ITS ENSEMBLE MEAN) OF A
LESS AMPLIFIED TROUGH AND MILDER TEMPERATURES BEHIND THE EXPECTED
COLD FRONT ON SATURDAY. EVEN SO, ECMWF REMAINS COLDER...BUT THE
TREND IN THIS MODEL HAS CERTAINLY WARMED. THIS HAS BEEN THE TREND
THIS WARM WINTER. STILL, THE EXACT DEGREE OF COOLING REMAINS
UNCERTAIN. ECMWF SHOWS LOWS IN THE 40S AND 50S SUN-MON VS. ITS
PAST RUNS WHICH SHOWED 30S AND 40S. GFS CONTINUES TO SHOW WARMER
LOWS IN THE 50S AND 60S SUN-MON. HIGHS OFF THE ECMWF ARE IN THE
60S TO NEAR 70 SUN WHILE THE GFS SHOWS LITTLE COOLING WITH HIGHS
REACHING WELL INTO THE 70S. THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT IS THAT
THE RISK FOR A SIGNIFICANT SOUTH FL COLD BLAST IS LESSENING WITH
TIME. ALSO, MODEL TRENDS HAVE BEEN FOR LESS PRONOUNCED MOISTURE
FRI-SAT, SO HAVE KEPT FRI DRY AND HAVE JUST A SLIGHT CHANCE OF
SHOWERS FOR SATURDAY.
By Jove...

I think we've got it....

: )
Quoting Tazmanian:




you two are a little late i saw it 1st

You saw nothing first.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You saw nothing first.




LOL LOL LOL



too funny
Breaking News: The TWC storm naming system is still really stupid!
Quoting JNCali:
Where are you at Astro?? i'm out here a little west of Nashville...


Goodlettsville, just north of Nashville. Where the Little-Leaguers are from.
Quoting WxGeekVA:
Breaking News: The TWC storm naming system is still really stupid!



i fined it a good idea
Quoting Tazmanian:



i fined it a good idea


It is just for the ratings, most don't watch them. The NWS doesn't like it, for good reason. naming storms that just cause annoyance and not destruction is a horrible idea.
Quoting Astrometeor:


It is just for the ratings, most don't watch them. The NWS doesn't like it, for good reason. naming storms that just cause annoyance and not destruction is a horrible idea.




i fined nameing winter storms a good idea a vary good idea name storms that we can keep track of in the off season
Quoting Astrometeor:


It is just for the ratings, most don't watch them. The NWS doesn't like it, for good reason. naming storms that just cause annoyance and not destruction is a horrible idea.

If the NWS, or an organization like that, was naming winter storms it wold be better.
Quoting Astrometeor:


It is just for the ratings, most don't watch them. The NWS doesn't like it, for good reason. naming storms that just cause annoyance and not destruction is a horrible idea.
The Weather Channel is a Joke!
Quoting WxGeekVA:
Breaking News: The TWC storm naming system is still really stupid!
Let's not start the naming argument again on this blog...
Quoting wxchaser97:

If the NWS, or an organization like that, was naming winter storms it wold be better.


Quoting gulfbreeze:
The Weather Channel is a Joke!


This is exactly my reasoning for why the TWC naming system is stupid in 2 sentences.
Quoting gulfbreeze:
The Weather Channel is a Joke!





your the one thats a joke not twc
Quoting Tazmanian:



the olny one on this blog is stupid is WxGeekVA not TWC i love TWC and there nameing of winter storms


There's no need to insult my intelligence Taz, as I am going to be attending the #1 meteorology program in the nation at Penn state beginning in the fall. I am merely stating my personal opinion on the ridiculous naming system created by TWC. No need to call me "stupid".
Riverside, California (Airport)
Updated: 7 min 27 sec ago
Clear
80 °F
Clear
Humidity: 5%
Dew Point: 3 °F
Wind: 8 mph from the NNE
Pressure: 30.01 in (Steady)
Visibility: 10.0 miles
UV: 2 out of 16
Pollen: 8.10 out of 12
Pollen Forecast new!
Clouds:
Clear -
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 817 ft

Now 76.7 at my place, NICE
Quoting Tazmanian:



the olny one on this blog is stupid is WxGeekVA not TWC i love TWC and there nameing of winter storms

The concept and ideas of naming winter storms is a good idea, don't get me wrong on that, but I feel it could be done differently with a more solid criteria and a gov organization.
Quoting wxchaser97:

The concept and ideas of naming winter storms is a good idea, don't get me wrong on that, but I feel it could be done differently with a more solid criteria and a gov organization.


Would the way they do it in Europe make more sense???
Quoting PedleyCA:


Would the way they do it in Europe make more sense???


What's Europe's way?
Except for taking the lazy way out like I had planned for the parade.I went and stood five hours in the cold with flurries and all.I got a close up picture with the president and his wife! walking down the street.They looked really good.Alot of people bumb rushed me and wanted the picture.I am looking forward to the storm on Friday!.The high is suppose to be in the upper 20's-31 degrees.
Quoting sandiquiz:
Thanks Dr M for choosing my photo for your blog......

For all who ask, it is a robin - a European robin - shivering it the cold icy blast we are getting from Siberia.

Siberia without the "S" here.
We had one of those landcane things over the weekend.
Came down from the north west over Portugal, all the way to the Med.
The weather bod on the TV said it was very similar in form to a tropical storm, blew the Internet out in the village, and blew the church clock right out of the church tower, bits and pieces of cement render and clock all over the place. The remains of it in the wall keep on chiming, in fact its hammering out midnight as I type this.
Freezing cold and blizzarding over north of Europe.
We've got 2300 cubic meters of water a second flowing down the river Ebro and over a lot if its surrounding fields. That's got to be about 550,000 gallons a second. Lots of snow forecast for tomorrow and continuing all week. Not for us of course we only get 11/C.
Quoting Astrometeor:


What's Europe's way?


See here:

storm names

scroll down to names
Quoting Astrometeor:


Goodlettsville, just north of Nashville. Where the Little-Leaguers are from.
Cool between you, Hydrus and me all we need is someone in the South TN area
Federal Advisory Committee Draft Climate Assessment Report Released for Public Review

A 60-person Federal Advisory Committee (The "National Climate Assessment and Development Advisory Committee" or NCADAC) has overseen the development of this draft climate report.

The NCADAC, whose members are available here (and in the report), was established under the Department of Commerce in December 2010 and is supported through the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). It is a federal advisory committee established as per the Federal Advisory Committee Act of 1972. The Committee serves to oversee the activities of the National Climate Assessment. Its members are diverse in background, expertise, geography and sector of employment. A formal record of the committee can be found at the NOAA NCADAC website.

The NCADAC has engaged more than 240 authors in the creation of the report. The authors are acknowledged at the beginning of the chapters they co-authored. /quote

The report is a whopping 147MB, but you can just download the individual chapters that may interest you. Its all on the page I linked.
Quoting Tazmanian:





your the one thats a joke not twc
I remember when TWC was a very good channel and my main source for weather but those days are long gone.
163. N3EG
Quoting WxGeekVA:


I am merely stating my personal opinion on the ridiculous naming system created by TWC...


I agree. Another publicity play which favors the East Coast over us with our Pacific storms.
Made WeatherBell's color table.

Quoting PedleyCA:


See here:scroll down to names


I don't know Pedley, naming highs seems a bit extreme, the slippery slope fallacy as it is called. The problem is that these things are normal, yes some are extreme, but most just want to know if they need a jacket. People don't care if nerds are naming storms, if anything, they would be weirded out.

On the basis of looking back into history, meh, names bestowed by the media work fine. However, again, normal people won't be looking back at these storms much. So the name is irrelevant in my humble opinion.
A snow burst caused a massive 86 car pileup on I-275 and a 52 car pileup on I-75 near Cincinnati, OH! Dozens were injured a few even killed including a 12 year old girl. Very tragic.

Slideshow of the massive pileup.

Quoting WxGeekVA:


There's no need to insult my intelligence Taz, as I am going to be attending the #1 meteorology program in the nation at Penn state beginning in the fall. I am merely stating my personal opinion on the ridiculous naming system created by TWC. No need to call me "stupid".



The best program? There are a number of schools in the nation that have awesome meteorology programs. To be fair I don't know much about the program at Penn State, but I do know of some other great schools for meteorology, Oklahoma, Mississippi State, and of course here at FSU where I am majoring in meteorology.

It's really all personal preference. I mean, if I lived in the plains I'd go to Oklahoma, if I lived in the central south I'd go to Mississippi State. If I lived in the northeast I'd go to Penn State. But I live in Florida so FSU is my school of choice for meteorology in the area.


I'm sure there are other great schools for meteorology as well, University of Miami and Florida tech also have meteorology programs in my state, which are probably good too.

Also, I've always felt its just smart to go towards a school in your state that's the most affordable. Even with FSU being one of the most affordable schools in the country, and the fact that I already have an AA with 74 credit hours, its still a ton of money.

I just wouldn't invest going 40,000 in debt to go to a college out of state, that's unimaginable to me. I'll have about 12,000 to pay off when I graduate, that's even crazy still.
Are you guys still arguing about TWC naming winter storms? Stop! Just stop!
Quoting Jedkins01:



The best program? There are a number of schools in the nation that have awesome meteorology programs. To be fair I don't know much about the program at Penn State, but I do know of some other great schools for meteorology, Oklahoma, Mississippi State, and of course here at FSU where I am majoring in meteorology.

It's really all personal preference. I mean, if I lived in the plains I'd go to Oklahoma, if I lived in the central south I'd go to Mississippi State. If I lived in the northeast I'd go to Penn State. But I live in Florida so FSU is my school of choice for meteorology in the area.


I'm sure there are other great schools for meteorology as well, University of Miami and Florida tech also have meteorology programs in my state, which are probably good too.


Opposite to that logic, I live in Alaska, and hope to attend FSU, not Washington State, lol.
Quoting Astrometeor:


What's Europe's way?

Depends which part of Europe you mean. The UK and Spain I know dont name storms under normal circumstances and they get plenty of them in winter.
I think Germany does name some storms?
Barbanz will know if shes about later.
As far as I know or have heard the only reference to names is if the storms were earlier named storms in the Atlantic as in Hurricanes.
The West coast of Europe gets some incredible storms in winter. Last weekend north of Portugal they were getting 35 foot high plus waves and winds in the 80 MPH range and this is quite common in winter.
Same again forcast for tomorrow in that area.
Quoting Levi32:


Opposite to that logic, I live in Alaska, and hope to attend FSU, not Washington State, lol.



Nice! When do you plan to come here? As of now I will be in the MET program and set to graduate by spring 2015 if everything works out!

My reasons for stating what I did is money though. I guess if you get enough grants out of state tuition can be dealt with but that was my main reason.

FSU is a beautiful campus, and the NWS being in the same building as the program is an awesome experience, meteorology students have access to the NWS computers.


I was discussing earlier though that unfortunately NWS job opportunities are very slim right now, and the FSU program is more geared towards the NWS route. I guess if you're willing to go for your M.S. or PHD you still have a good shot at a NWS position then. Its just that getting them with a bachelors degree is slim right now.

What's nice is the program also gives you the opportunity for having an automatic minor in mathematics.
For me, even though Western Kentucky is out of state, I would get in-state tuition if I went there thanks to Tennessee's laws. However, I would not pick a college over where it is located, I would still go check them out and compare the lot.
Quoting WxGeekVA:
Breaking News: The TWC storm naming system is still really stupid!


You and I may not be in firm disagreement about that.

However, Doctor Masters made a special supplement post the other day, stating (approximately) that he thought it was a good idea to experiment with.

It being the case that I should rather be a gentleman than be 'right', especially on someone else's blog, I am resolved to cease dissing the idea, at least on this site.

Moving right along: I thought the Polar Vortex was supposed to supposed to split in two and send the central and east coasts states back to the ice age for a week or two! Yes, I know, things are cooling off somewhat over there, but not THAT much!
Hazmat & vehicle accidents are hazards of the day globally..

More than 100 vehicles involved in separate pileups across Ohio
More than 20 cars involved in crash on Northeast Outerbelt






People make their way to the market through a flooded street at the Muara Baru district in Jakarta January 20, 2013. Severe floods in Jakarta eased on Friday, a day after unusually heavy monsoon rains swamped parts of the Indonesian capital in waist-deep water and left more than 18,000 people homeless.

Heavy floods in Indonesia's capital of Jakarta since Tuesday have killed 20 and affected about 250,000 people, an official said on Monday.

"The latest data that we have today (Monday) showed that 20 people have been killed by the floods," Nelis Zuliansri , spokesperson of the agency told Xinhua over phone.

"They were killed by electricity shocks and being drawn," she said.

Lukman said that the floods have affected 249, 154 people.

The floods have been caused by a five-year cycle of monsoon rain, according to the meteorology and geophysics agency.

The disaster paralyzed business and official activities in Jakarta on Thursday as it inundated business centers and government official buildings.

Jakarta policymakers have declared an emergency status by up to January 27.
Quoting Ameister12:
A snow burst caused a massive 86 car pileup on I-275 and a 52 car pileup on I-75 near Cincinnati, OH! Dozens were injured a few even killed including a 12 year old girl. Very tragic.

Slideshow of the massive pileup.



Wow, what a mess.

Probably every driver in the lot will be cited:
"Driving too fast for current conditions" or something nearly to that.

Why don't we, when we are driving, realize that we should not drive faster than we can see to stop?
Quoting MontanaZephyr:


You and I may not be in firm disagreement about that.

However, Doctor Masters made a special supplement post the other day, stating (approximately) that he thought it was a good idea to experiment with.

It being the case that I should rather be a gentleman than be 'right', especially on someone else's blog, I am resolved to cease dissing the idea, at least on this site.

Moving right along: I thought the Polar Vortex was supposed to supposed to split in two and send the central and east coasts states back to the ice age for a week or two! Yes, I know, things are cooling off somewhat over there, but not THAT much!
I noticed that. NOAA just announced on this date in 1985 the all time record low was set in Nashville,TN at -17 degrees and with 6 inches of snow on the ground. The last time Nashville was below zero was Feb-5 1996...I did travel a lot in the winter of 85, and it seemed frigid everywhere.
Quoting Jedkins01:



Nice! When do you plan to come here? As of now I will be in the MET program and set to graduate by spring 2015 if everything works out!

My reasons for stating what I did is money though. I guess if you get enough grants out of state tuition can be dealt with but that was my main reason.

FSU is a beautiful campus, and the NWS being in the same building as the program is an awesome experience, meteorology students have access to the NWS computers.


I was discussing earlier though that unfortunately NWS job opportunities are very slim right now, and the FSU program is more geared towards the NWS route. I guess if you're willing to go for your M.S. or PHD you still have a good shot at a NWS position then. Its just that getting them with a bachelors degree is slim right now.

What's nice is the program also gives you the opportunity for having an automatic minor in mathematics.


Well I can never have an undergraduate meteorology degree. I hope to graduate in 2014 and get a graduate degree through FSU. If I get in, I'll just have to see what kind of opportunities I encounter.
Quoting Levi32:


Opposite to that logic, I live in Alaska, and hope to attend FSU, not Washington State, lol.
If I were going to met school, I'd go there too lol. Aside from being on top of the met schooling, it's in Florida...tropics, shorts n tees, girls, it's a party school...yeah, all that nice stuff
Quoting Skyepony:


People make their way to the market through a flooded street at the Muara Baru district in Jakarta January 20, 2013. Severe floods in Jakarta eased on Friday, a day after unusually heavy monsoon rains swamped parts of the Indonesian capital in waist-deep water and left more than 18,000 people homeless.

Heavy floods in Indonesia's capital of Jakarta since Tuesday have killed 20 and affected about 250,000 people, an official said on Monday.

"The latest data that we have today (Monday) showed that 20 people have been killed by the floods," Nelis Zuliansri , spokesperson of the agency told Xinhua over phone.

"They were killed by electricity shocks and being drawn," she said.

Lukman said that the floods have affected 249, 154 people.

The floods have been caused by a five-year cycle of monsoon rain, according to the meteorology and geophysics agency.

The disaster paralyzed business and official activities in Jakarta on Thursday as it inundated business centers and government official buildings.

Jakarta policymakers have declared an emergency status by up to January 27.


...makes a guy need to pee just looking at it!

Which, projecting into the scene, you realize that at least some of those guys are thinking, being visited with that same issue, "But... what's the worry anyways...??? No one will notice..."
This would be a massive arctic outbreak for most of the U.S....If it did occur.:)...
Quoting PedleyCA:


See here:

storm names

scroll down to names

This is an interesting line from the link you posted:-

"These storms cause economic damage of €1.9 billion per year, and insurance losses of €1.4 billion per year (1990–1998). They rank as the second highest cause of global natural catastrophe insurance loss (after U.S. hurricanes)."

I supose our church clocks repair bill will be in the next expences list?
Quoting hydrus:
This would be a massive arctic outbreak for most of the U.S....If it did occur.:)...


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Temperature: KRAL 1/21/2013
Mean Temperature 62 °F 55 °F
Max Temperature 80 °F 67 °F 83 °F (1968)
Min Temperature 44 °F 44 °F 23 °F (1922)


I got low 50.8 high 76.7 now 75.4
Quoting Tazmanian:



the olny one on this blog is stupid is WxGeekVA not TWC i love TWC and there nameing of winter storms



Been a while since I said it but,
don't spaz, Taz.
Quoting hydrus:
This would be a massive arctic outbreak for most of the U.S....If it did occur.:)...

Hydrus. Whats the chances/odds of that happening?
It looks really nasty.
Sure to be in the catastrophe running at least, probably really worth a naming ceremony.
Quoting PlazaRed:

This is an interesting line from the link you posted:-

"These storms cause economic damage of €1.9 billion per year, and insurance losses of €1.4 billion per year (1990–1998). They rank as the second highest cause of global natural catastrophe insurance loss (after U.S. hurricanes)."

I supose our church clocks repair bill will be in the next expences list?


If they had a decent criteria for what to name like the storms you mentioned.

Would love to see a picture of the clock tower aftermath.....
Quoting PedleyCA:


If they had a decent criteria for what to name like the storms you mentioned.

Would love to see a picture of the clock tower aftermath.....

I got the pictures. It happened at about 10am, I was standing on the roof risking death, watching the flooding in the valley, when I noticed that the clock was shaking and vibrating in the gale. I took a photo of it, then I went in to get the cup of coffee.
A few minutes later I noticed that the clock and gone and there was just a hole in the church facade where it had been.
Needless to say I photographed the hole and the remains.Along with a distant shot of the flooding for good measure.
The shots are in the camera but as the Internet has been blown away as well for 3 days I haven't got round to uploading them to WU. Tomorrow I'll see about doing it, I hope they allow the photos, as some of mine got refused before.
All for now from here its 1.15am. Happy freezing.
Quoting PlazaRed:

Hydrus. Whats the chances/odds of that happening?
It looks really nasty.
Sure to be in the catastrophe running at least, probably really worth a naming ceremony.
I have not had time to really look at things, but seeing how different the pattern is compared to last year I bet it is in the cards.....so to speak...:)
Quoting TomTaylor:
If I were going to met school, I'd go there too lol. Aside from being on top of the met schooling, it's in Florida...tropics, shorts n tees, girls, it's a party school...yeah, all that nice stuff


I have some family in FL. The "amenities" have derailed many. Stay the course, get your education, and enjoy the benefits afterwards. That applies to most any institution.
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I say keep the storm coming south!!!!! I want more snow!!!!! (Friday's storm)
Oh! Slip outside and have a look at the moon, which is not too far from overhead at the moment. It is very close to Jupiter. In fact, in an hour or three, if you live in the south, it should come so close you will hear the moon's tires squealing.

Supposed to be an occultation in South America.
Quoting Jedkins01:



The best program? There are a number of schools in the nation that have awesome meteorology programs. To be fair I don't know much about the program at Penn State, but I do know of some other great schools for meteorology, Oklahoma, Mississippi State, and of course here at FSU where I am majoring in meteorology.

It's really all personal preference. I mean, if I lived in the plains I'd go to Oklahoma, if I lived in the central south I'd go to Mississippi State. If I lived in the northeast I'd go to Penn State. But I live in Florida so FSU is my school of choice for meteorology in the area.


I'm sure there are other great schools for meteorology as well, University of Miami and Florida tech also have meteorology programs in my state, which are probably good too.

Also, I've always felt its just smart to go towards a school in your state that's the most affordable. Even with FSU being one of the most affordable schools in the country, and the fact that I already have an AA with 74 credit hours, its still a ton of money.

I just wouldn't invest going 40,000 in debt to go to a college out of state, that's unimaginable to me. I'll have about 12,000 to pay off when I graduate, that's even crazy still.
Florida Tech? Forget about it lol. I went there four semesters and am in unimaginable debt. The professors aren't good either.
Quoting MontanaZephyr:
Oh! Slip outside and have a look at the moon, which is not too far from overhead at the moment. It is very close to Jupiter. In fact, in an hour or three, if you live in the south, it should come so close you will hear the moon's tires squealing.

Supposed to be an occultation in South America.


When is this supposed to take place on the West Coast????
Sierra's are above average on smowpack so far this year
Link
woudl not want this guys job!


Quoting JNCali:
Sierra's are above average on smowpack so far this year
Link
woudl not want this guys job!




How about some snow shoes?
Quoting PedleyCA:


When is this supposed to take place on the West Coast????


You will be able to make out Jupiter just after sunset. So, for the west coast, approximately now and for the rest of the evening.
Quoting Jedkins01:



The best program? There are a number of schools in the nation that have awesome meteorology programs. To be fair I don't know much about the program at Penn State, but I do know of some other great schools for meteorology, Oklahoma, Mississippi State, and of course here at FSU where I am majoring in meteorology.

It's really all personal preference. I mean, if I lived in the plains I'd go to Oklahoma, if I lived in the central south I'd go to Mississippi State. If I lived in the northeast I'd go to Penn State. But I live in Florida so FSU is my school of choice for meteorology in the area.


I'm sure there are other great schools for meteorology as well, University of Miami and Florida tech also have meteorology programs in my state, which are probably good too.

Also, I've always felt its just smart to go towards a school in your state that's the most affordable. Even with FSU being one of the most affordable schools in the country, and the fact that I already have an AA with 74 credit hours, its still a ton of money.

I just wouldn't invest going 40,000 in debt to go to a college out of state, that's unimaginable to me. I'll have about 12,000 to pay off when I graduate, that's even crazy still.


Growing up in the northeast (NJ), I thought Rutgers or Penn State was going to be my choice for met school. Got accepted to both, but saw what the eventual price tag was going to be. Decided to attend Millersville University in Pennsylvania and had a wonderful college career. Got my Bachelors in Meteorology and had my loans paid off within 5 years. Half the price as the "big" schools and the smaller class sizes were awesome. Some of my deep met courses (Dynamics, Synoptic, Remote Sensing, etc.) only had 10 or 11 students. I think they have a graduate program now, its been over 10 years since I graduated. Any up and coming met students, you should check out Millersville, your parents will thank you.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


There's no need to insult my intelligence Taz, as I am going to be attending the #1 meteorology program in the nation at Penn state beginning in the fall. I am merely stating my personal opinion on the ridiculous naming system created by TWC. No need to call me "stupid".


There's still plenty to belittle about Penn State...LOL Just saying

I don't want to wait for the bus tomorrow! :-(

Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 17. Wind chill values as low as -12. West wind 11 to 13 mph.
Quoting hydrus:
This would be a massive arctic outbreak for most of the U.S....If it did occur.:)...


Would be awesome, but the GFS is always predicting doom 10 days on, no?
Quoting Astrometeor:


It is just for the ratings, most don't watch them. The NWS doesn't like it, for good reason. naming storms that just cause annoyance and not destruction is a horrible idea.


Brian Norcross said himself it was mainly about marketing, especially with the NWS not joining in and telling all NWS branches not to use the names in any of there advisories/watches/warnings.
-40C windchill tonight here. Coldest in a while.

Last cold day of the week though.
Hurricane Isaac's TCR is scheduled to be released this week. Not expecting many changes.

Sandy's will take another week or two. My best guess is an upgrade to major hurricane intensity with a brief subtropical period before landfall in New Jersey.
Quoting Chucktown:


Growing up in the northeast (NJ), I thought Rutgers or Penn State was going to be my choice for met school. Got accepted to both, but saw what the eventual price tag was going to be. Decided to attend Millersville University in Pennsylvania and had a wonderful college career. Got my Bachelors in Meteorology and had my loans paid off within 5 years. Half the price as the "big" schools and the smaller class sizes were awesome. Some of my deep met courses (Dynamics, Synoptic, Remote Sensing, etc.) only had 10 or 11 students. I think they have a graduate program now, its been over 10 years since I graduated. Any up and coming met students, you should check out Millersville, your parents will thank you.


Didn't you get in-state tuition at Rutgers? I realize that would still be expensive but by comparison to PSU I feel like it would be affordable? I live in NJ and I've been eye-ing down Rutgers; Millersville seems too small and I'm looking for a large and open-minded environment that you would get at a D1 school.
Quoting wxgeek723:


Didn't you get in-state tuition at Rutgers? I realize that would still be expensive but by comparison to PSU I feel like it would be affordable? I live in NJ and I've been eye-ing down Rutgers; Millersville seems too small and I'm look for a large and open-minded environment that you would get at a D1 school.


I enjoyed the smaller campus and class sizes. To each his own, some folks want that big college experience with the big football or basketball following. Nothing wrong with PSU, FSU, RU, etc., they are all great met schools. Just depends what you want. My advice, check out as many as you can in person. Rutgers does have the in state tuition like most schools do, but it was still almost twice what the out of state tuition was for Millersville.
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Brisbane
Tropical Cyclone Advice #5
TROPICAL LOW 08U
8:55 AM WST January 22 2013
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At 8:00 AM WST, Tropical Low (1000 hPa) located at 19.4S 120.2E or 195 km east northeast of Port Hedland and 270 km southwest of Broome has 10 minute sustained winds of 20 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The low is reported as moving west southwest at 6 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T1.5/1.5/D1.0/24 HRS

The low may develop into a tropical cyclone on Wednesday as it moves to the west southwest just off the Pilbara coastline. If the system does reach cyclone intensity then gales with wind gusts to 55 knots could develop between Pardoo and Dampier during Wednesday possibly extending west to Onslow late in the day. Squally thunderstorms are expected with locally heavy rainfall.

Tropical Cyclone Warning
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A Cyclone WARNING has been declared for a developing tropical low for coastal areas from Pardoo to Mardie, including Port Hedland and Karratha

Tropical Cyclone Watch
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A Cyclone WATCH is current for coastal areas from Mardie to Onslow

Forecast and Intensity
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12 HRS: 19.7S 119.0E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)
24 HRS: 20.0S 117.9E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Cyclone)
48 HRS: 20.8S 116.3E - 30 knots (Tropical Low)
72 HRS: 20.6S 114.4E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)

Additional Information
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Convection has developed overnight about the center indicating some development of the low under low vertical wind shear, upper level outflow and high ocean heat content [SST>31C]. Dvorak assessment at T1.5 with a 0.3 curved band arguable. Surface observations show only modest pressure falls and broad scale low level forcing remains weak.

Although conditions remain generally conducive for development of a small system in the next 12-24 hours, computer models [numerical weather prediction] don't suggest intensification to cyclone strength. However, numerical weather prediction generally has lower skill in such a scenario and hence the precautionary warnings.

Forecast motion is to the west southwest, roughly parallel to the coast under the influence of a weak mid-level ridge. A more southwesterly motion to the Pilbara coast is expected on Wednesday as a mid-level trough approaches from the southwest. Later on Wednesday and Thursday the circulation should weaken due to the combination of land influences and increasing shear with the mid-level center moving inland.
I bet if dozens of complaints about TWC naming winter storms were posted here every single time TWC named a winter storm, they would immediately cease the practice, because the very last thing a television network or website wants is people talking about them. ;-)

The CPC says next week will be toasty one in much of the eastern/southeastern parts of the nation...

CPC

...and they've backed off substantially from their calls for deep cold along the northern tier in the 8-14 day period.

CPC
Quoting Astrometeor:


It is just for the ratings, most don't watch them. The NWS doesn't like it, for good reason. naming storms that just cause annoyance and not destruction is a horrible idea.



The majority of tropical storms named by NOAA do not cause destruction.
^^^ Lol THEY'RE WATCHING!

Honestly I find the idea slightly...juvenile. I used to have a fascination with the naming of hurricanes when I was younger and would try to replicate the names with winter storms. Except I would kind of follow suit with NWS Buffalo and name them after objects, animals, etc. However as I got older I just grew out of it and realized it's not really a good idea nor really necessary. I guess you could argue hurricanes don't NEED to be named either but I think there's much more of a need to draw attention to a 940mb tropical system than a 995mb winter storm.

You have to consider how these names sound to the public. From our geeky perspective 'Winter Storm Iago' is amusing but from a laymen's standpoint it's like WTF?

I have the same problem with this year's list. I used to think it had such cool names on it but ever since my friend told me hurricanes have such funny names (how does "Sandy" epitomize destruction?), I realized how bizarre a hurricane named 'Chantal' or 'Dorian' would sound to someone who doesn't follow the weather.

BTW TWC Iago would've been a good replacement name on the hurricane list :p
Quoting Neapolitan:
I bet if dozens of complaints about TWC naming winter storms were posted here every single time TWC named a winter storm, they would immediately cease the practice, because the very last thing a television network or website wants is people talking about them. ;-)

The CPC says next week will be toasty one in much of the eastern/southeastern parts of the nation...

CPC

...and they've backed off substantially from their calls for deep cold along the northern tier in the 8-14 day period.

CPC


if they were wrong about the initial cold air in the 8-14 day period, what makes you think they are right about it being "toasty"..these maps are like throwing dice and possibly "crapping" out..I noticed you only post these when they predict a warm up..
...ACCUMULATING SNOW...LOCALLY HEAVY AT TIMES...DEVELOPS INTO THIS
EVENING AND TAPERS OFF TUESDAY MORNING...

.DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE OFF THE SOUTH COAST OF NEW ENGLAND WILL
PROVIDE A SET UP FOR AN INITIAL WIDE BAND OF SNOW ACROSS THE
SOUTH COAST OF NEW ENGLAND INTO AROUND MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. AS THE
LOW DEPARTS EAST...THE BAND WILL PIVOT AROUND THE LOW ACCORDINGLY
ACROSS THE EASTERN SHORELINE OF NEW ENGLAND AND INTENSIFY. A
NARROW BAND OF HEAVY SNOW IS ANTICIPATED IN PROXIMITY OF COASTAL
NEW HAMPSHIRE EXTENDING SOUTHEAST INTO THE EASTERN HALF OF THE
CAPE. WHILE THE EXACT PLACEMENT OF AN ANTICIPATED HEAVY SNOW BAND
REMAINS UNCERTAIN...THERE IS STILL CONFIDENCE THAT LOCATIONS IN
NORTHEAST MASSACHUSETTS AND THE CAPE WILL SEE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS
AT OR EXCEEDING 6 INCHES. IT REMAINS PLAUSIBLE THAT THIS AREA OF
HEAVY SNOW WILL EXTEND WEST...IMPACTING REMAINING EASTERN PORTIONS
OF MASSACHUSETTS. THUS...IT IS LIKELY THAT FORECASTED SNOW AMOUNTS
WILL BE MODIFIED AS THE SITUATION EVOLVES...AND HEADLINES MAY
NEED TO BE UPDATED ACCORDINGLY.
Quoting stuostro:



The majority of tropical storms named by NOAA do not cause destruction.



Nice to have ya drop in. Ya need to do it more often!
You can see that Jupiter- Moon appulse right now on the West Coast, very nice.

Spell check doesn't like that word but as I pasted it in there it is straight from that article. I looked it up and that is the correct spelling. Sometimes spell check will not be your friend.
Quoting stuostro:



The majority of tropical storms named by NOAA do not cause destruction.


That wasn't my point.

Quoting wxgeek723:


I realized how bizarre a hurricane named 'Chantal' or 'Dorian' would sound to someone who doesn't follow the weather.
Don't hate. Those names are way cooler than you'll ever be (:p), and I predict they will inflict massive destruction.
Off topic -
I just read an account in the Feb. 2013 issue of Popular Mechanics of the rescue of personnel from the H.M.S. Bounty during Superstorm Sandy. I am so thankful that we have such a resource as the Coast Guard to try and rescue our butts when we get into trouble in coastal waters as well as large inland lakes. And those rescue swimmers are just unbelievable - I get choked up everytime I read an account of their actions.
Quoting KoritheMan:

Don't hate. Those names are way cooler than you'll ever be (:p), and I predict they will inflict massive destruction.

Hurricane Van for the win!
Quoting Chucktown:


Growing up in the northeast (NJ), I thought Rutgers or Penn State was going to be my choice for met school. Got accepted to both, but saw what the eventual price tag was going to be. Decided to attend Millersville University in Pennsylvania and had a wonderful college career. Got my Bachelors in Meteorology and had my loans paid off within 5 years. Half the price as the "big" schools and the smaller class sizes were awesome. Some of my deep met courses (Dynamics, Synoptic, Remote Sensing, etc.) only had 10 or 11 students. I think they have a graduate program now, its been over 10 years since I graduated. Any up and coming met students, you should check out Millersville, your parents will thank you.


I was accepted to Millersville; but I chose Penn State instead.
Quoting Ameister12:
I don't want to wait for the bus tomorrow! :-(

Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 17. Wind chill values as low as -12. West wind 11 to 13 mph.

I'm hoping that maybe I can get a cold day(no school) tomorrow. The forecast low is 3F, but the current temp is already 8F so it might go even lower. Wind Chill Advisory in effect.

Tuesday Flurries likely. Partly sunny, with a high near 11. Wind chill values as low as -16. West northwest wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph.

Quoting KoritheMan:

Don't hate. Those names are way cooler than you'll ever be (:p), and I predict they will inflict massive destruction.


Lol think of the Twitter jokes that would come out of those names.
This upcoming winter storm for Friday is very interesting unlike the others where the NWS had to deal between the rain/snow line, this one is just all snow... potentially big snowfall accumulations since lots of cold air will be in place
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
This upcoming winter storm for Friday is very interesting unlike the others where the NWS had to deal between the rain/snow line, this one is just all snow... potentially big snowfall accumulations

BRING IT ON!
Quoting Astrometeor:


That wasn't my point.


Um... What was your point?

Quoting wxgeek723:


Lol think of the Twitter jokes that would come out of those names.
My mother's middle name is Chantal, and she up and left my father and me. So I know Chantal will be dangerous!
There are going to be people who support the idea of The Weather Channel naming winter storms, and there are going to be people who oppose the idea of The Weather Channel naming storms. Complaining about TWC's decision several months after the fact, especially with the knowledge that your comment is ultimately not going to change the outcome, is just plain stupid now.

That being said, I do support The Weather Channel naming storms. Like it or not, naming storms has increased awareness of the storm. While not every storm they name ends up huge, when the big one does come, such as Euclid, people are prepared.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
This upcoming winter storm for Friday is very interesting unlike the others where the NWS had to deal between the rain/snow line, this one is just all snow... potentially big snowfall accumulations since lots of cold air will be in place


ME GUSTA!
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
There are going to be people who support the idea of The Weather Channel naming winter storms, and there are going to be people who oppose the idea of The Weather Channel naming storms. Complaining about TWC's decision several months after the fact, especially with the knowledge that your comment is ultimately not going to change the outcome, is just plain stupid now.


You're just trying to rationalize it because you blindly support them 100%.
Quoting Doppler22:

BRING IT ON!


I'll try to come on with snowfall potentials based on the HWO... whenever the NWS issued them from Mid Atl into the Northeast... Im pretty sure this storm is the one I been waiting for a while... Hope model consistency remains...
Quoting Chucktown:


Growing up in the northeast (NJ), I thought Rutgers or Penn State was going to be my choice for met school. Got accepted to both, but saw what the eventual price tag was going to be. Decided to attend Millersville University in Pennsylvania and had a wonderful college career. Got my Bachelors in Meteorology and had my loans paid off within 5 years. Half the price as the "big" schools and the smaller class sizes were awesome. Some of my deep met courses (Dynamics, Synoptic, Remote Sensing, etc.) only had 10 or 11 students. I think they have a graduate program now, its been over 10 years since I graduated. Any up and coming met students, you should check out Millersville, your parents will thank you.



Interesting, yeah I just looked up Millersville, sounds like a great school!

That's one of the reason I love the MET program at FSU, its a small intelligent community amidst a giant school. I like the school as a whole but being I'm a bit introverted the masses of college students get intimidating. However, the small meteorology community makes you feel more at home and less like a number.
Neapolitan, every time I see the topic of naming winter storms come up on the blog you always seem to be playing Switzerland.

Can I ask your opinion of this matter?
Quoting wxgeek723:


You're just trying to rationalize it because you blindly support them 100%.

No, actually, I disagree with The Weather Channel about quite a few things. Thanks for the response anyways.
Quoting Levi32:


Well I can never have an undergraduate meteorology degree. I hope to graduate in 2014 and get a graduate degree through FSU. If I get in, I'll just have to see what kind of opportunities I encounter.



Ohh ok, I gotcha. Well from what I know, FSU's graduate program is known for bringing in people where not previously MET majors in undergrad so its right up your alley. They get a number of math majors, physics majors, and computer science majors that go for a graduate meteorology degree. I'm not fully sure why that is, maybe people with those majors acquire an interest for weather along the way and realize that its the most invigorating science to get into :)

At any rate, good luck!

As it stands now, graduate school sounds to intimidating to me, but if I do go to grad school I would most assuredly stay at FSU.

I don't know that much about graduate school. I just know the MET undergrad program here is very intense.
I just can't understand how a 3-6 inch "snowstorm" in New England is a big deal. I think the arguing over naming these storms is old news and unnecessary at this point, but really, this one is kind of ridiculous, actually looks like it could end up being even less than forecast. Certainly not worthy of a massive headline "Deadly Winter Storm" on the TWC homepage.

Friday looks more interesting though, that could be a widespread 6"+.
Quoting ncstorm:


if they were wrong about the initial cold air in the 8-14 day period, what makes you think they are right about it being "toasty"..these maps are like throwing dice and possibly "crapping" out..I noticed you only post these when they predict a warm up..
Weather forecasts for the shorter term are almost always going to be more accurate than forecasts for a more distant period. Meteorologists refine their forecasts as the forecast period draws closer and more input is gathered, and since six days is, after all, considerably closer than, say, 14 days, it should come as no surprise to the knowledgeable that there would indeed be some level of refinement as time goes on.

It may seem to you as though I "only post these when they predict a warm up", but that's likely because there have been so many more warm ups than cool downs these last few years. Remember, record highs outnumbered record lows in the U.S. last year by better than four-to-one, and this year that ratio is already close to 2-to-1--and that in spite of last week's cold snap.

206 AussieStorm: Brian Norcross said himself it was mainly about marketing, especially with the NWS not joining in and telling all NWS branches not to use the names in any of there advisories/watches/warnings.

Naming must be a good idea ifn the boss hasta order the highly educated NWS workers to not use it. Especially after considering that the same boss had ordered the NHC to drop its full coverage of Sandy.

While 'marketing' is often used in a perjoritive manner, the impetus behind marketing is to get info out to as many people as possible... which seems a good thing if the info is reliable, as truthful as far as can be determined at the time.
Quoting TomTaylor:
If I were going to met school, I'd go there too lol. Aside from being on top of the met schooling, it's in Florida...tropics, shorts n tees, girls, it's a party school...yeah, all that nice stuff



Not a whole lot of shorts and tees around campus right now, its been pretty cold lately, and its a mild winter in the southeast, maybe I'm just a Tampa Bay cold wimp, but I'm not used to half the nights a week having lows below 40 degrees.
"Jove: Deadly Winter Storm Named"

Even in the highest total accumulation areas, it isn't something they can't handle. It definitely won't be deadly nor is it a widespread big accumulating storm. I don't agree with calling it a deadly storm here.

Lol, MA posted a similar thing just a minute or two before me. I thought of this idea in weather chat first.
It is freezing as hell here right now!
Hi - first time popping in for some expertise. The local weatherguessers are saying we have the set up for a Norlun trough here in a region that follows the southern border of Maine and New Hampshire. Never heard of this before!
Quoting wxgeek723:
Neapolitan, every time I see the topic of naming winter storms come up on the blog you always seem to be playing Switzerland.

Can I ask your opinion of this matter?
I'm not sure what you mean by "playing Switzerland". But I'll repeat my two basic responses: 1) I think it's a great idea that will likely gain a lot of traction in the coming years while decreasing some of the confusion we've seen in the past; and 2) there's no penalty for not using TWC's names, so those who don't like the idea can simply elect to call it anything they want, or nothing at all.
Quoting FunnelVortex:
It is freezing as hell here right now!


Yes It is:


Rhinelander WI


A Few Clouds

-17°F

-27°C

Humidity73%
Wind SpeedW 5 mph
Barometer30.08 in (1024.5 mb)
Dewpoint-23°F (-31°C)
Visibility10.00 mi
Wind Chill-30°F (-34°C)

Last Update on 21 Jan 7:53 pm CST

Current conditions at

Rhinelander-Oneida County Airport (KRHI)

Lat: 45.63 Lon: -89.47 Elev: 1663ft.
Quoting Neapolitan:
I'm not sure what you mean by "playing Switzerland". But I'll repeat my two basic responses: 1) I think it's a great idea that will likely gain a lot of traction in the coming years while decreasing some of the confusion we've seen in the past; and 2) there's no penalty for not using TWC's names, so those who don't like the idea can simply elect to call it anything they want, or nothing at all.


Switzerland is a neutral country.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
I just can't understand how a 3-6 inch "snowstorm" in New England is a big deal. I think the arguing over naming these storms is old news and unnecessary at this point, but really, this one is kind of ridiculous, actually looks like it could end up being even less than forecast. Certainly not worthy of a massive headline "Deadly Winter Storm" on the TWC homepage.
Well, to be fair, they only called it a "Deadly Winter Storm" because it's been deadly.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Well, to be fair, they only called it a "Deadly Winter Storm" because it's been deadly.

Not really. The little clipper system that caused that very tragic accident is completely separate from the new coastal low forming right now, which is the system they named.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Not really. The little clipper system that caused that very tragic accident is completely separate from the new coastal low forming right now.
"A fast-moving 'Alberta Clipper' system, which has already caused at least one fatal multi-vehicle accident in Ohio, will quickly intensify once it hits the waters south of New England Monday night. Before it can escape out to sea on Tuesday, it will brush parts of New England with potentially significant snowfall and gusty winds."

I'm not impugning your meteorological prowess, but I think on this one I'll side with the professionals who don't see the "complete separation" between the systems you do.

I'm out for the night. Adieu...
Quoting Neapolitan:
"A fast-moving 'Alberta Clipper' system, which has already caused at least one fatal multi-vehicle accident in Ohio, will quickly intensify once it hits the waters south of New England Monday night. Before it can escape out to sea on Tuesday, it will brush parts of New England with potentially significant snowfall and gusty winds."

I'm not impugning your meteorological prowess, but I think on this one I'll side with the professionals who don't see the "complete separation" between the systems you do.

I'm out for the night. Adieu...

Lol, I'm certainly not claiming to have any "meteorological prowess", and yes, to be fair, the systems are kind of related. But not the same. I think it's a little too strong a headline.

I'm out for the night also. Was hoping for a school delay or cancellation tomorrow but that's looking pretty unlikely at this point. Oh well.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Not really. The little clipper system that caused that very tragic accident is completely separate from the new coastal low forming right now, which is the system they named.


Actually it is not completely separate. The surface pressure pattern evolves, but it's the same shortwave and vort max swinging around through the base of the trough, the tail of which produced the snow in Ohio that led to the fatal accident.
Lets just be honest with ourselves. This is purely about ratings. The number one example would be last weekend in North Dakota and NW Minnesota. The NWS issued a Blizzard Warning for the area. The Weather Channel evidently seen no reason to name this event. Now if you will not name a storm when a Blizzard Warning is issued, it becomes less about safety and awareness as there is nothing deadlier in the winter than a blizzard if you are caught out in one. Just in this case it very rural with no larger cities being effected so hence no name. IMO
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:

"A fast-moving "Alberta Clipper" system, which has already caused at least one fatal multi-vehicle accident in Ohio, will quickly intensify once it hits the waters south of New England Monday night."

I can't wait until hurricane season...everybody is a lot calmer then.
Still snowing here
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


so ONE death makes the Alberta Clipper Jove deadly???

..well yes.

Typically if somebody dies, the event is deadly.
Record cold kills 80 in Bangladesh
2013-01-10 10:44


India knows how to handle a cold winter, but it has rarely been so cold as it is this year. See the pictures.

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Dhaka - A cold snap which saw temperatures drop on Thursday to their lowest point in Bangladesh's post-independence history has killed around 80 people, officials said.

The weather office said the lowest temperature was recorded at 3ºC in the northern town of Syedpur and the Red Crescent said hospitals were packed with patients suffering respiratory illness.

Shah Alam, deputy head of the weather office, said the last time the temperature had dropped below 3ºC was in February 1968 when Bangladesh was still part of Pakistan.

"The temperature is the lowest in Bangladesh's history," he said.

The Red Crescent Society said impoverished rural areas had been worst hit as many people could not afford warm clothing or heating.

"They are not prepared for such extreme weather. Many could not even go to work," the society's general-secretary Abu Bakar said.

"According to the reports of our district offices and local administrations about 80 people have died due to cold-related diseases such as respiratory problems, pneumonia and cough," Bakar added.

Bangladesh, which is a tropical country, normally sees temperatures fall to around 10ºC at this time of year.

The weather office said temperatures were expected to rise from Saturday.


Link
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

..well yes.

Typically if somebody dies, the event is deadly.


I still think the word is too strong for this weak and small impact-area-storm
Since the headline on The Weather Channel seemed to be causing a lot of argument, it has been modified.

Happy now?

Winter Storm Jove: Snowy Commute Possible
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I still think the word is too strong for this weak and small impact-area-storm

Well, it was just changed:

Winter Storm Jove: Snowy Commute Possible

I am late with this stuff tonight I guess.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Since the headline on The Weather Channel seemed to be causing a lot of argument, it has been modified.

Happy now?

Winter Storm Jove: Snowy Commute Possible


Quoting wxchaser97:

Well, it was just changed:

Winter Storm Jove: Snowy Commute Possible



It's better now...
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

"A fast-moving "Alberta Clipper" system, which has already caused at least one fatal multi-vehicle accident in Ohio, will quickly intensify once it hits the waters south of New England Monday night."

I can't wait until hurricane season...everybody is a lot calmer then.


LOL!

Now THAT was funny!
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:




It's better now...
Lol you people fight more with these winterstorms than Hondurans do when watching soccer.
Quoting allancalderini:
Lol you people fight more with these winterstorms than Hondurans do when watching soccer.


I do too... believe me...
Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 29.9 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 11.1°F
Dewpoint: 0.9°F
Humidity: 63 %
Wind: W 22 mph
Wind Chill: -8
Personally, I don't think it's a great idea for The Weather Channel to be naming the storms if the government agencies are not supporting the idea, but I'm not arguing about it like some of you are. That's just my opinion.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I do too... believe me...
Another soccer fan *sighs*when I am going to find a volleyball fan.*cries in a corner*
Current look at temperatures across this part of the world...

* Sizzling 70F in Miami, Florida.

* Mild 7F in Chicago, Illinois.

* Balmy -20F in Thunder Bay, Canada.

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 29.9 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 11.1 F
Dewpoint: 0.9 F
Humidity: 63 %
Wind: W 22 mph
Wind Chill: -8

Is this a competition?

Saint-Hubert Airport
Date: 10:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 30.0 inches
Visibility: 10 miles
Temperature: 2.3 F
Dewpoint: -6.5 F
Humidity: 66 %
Wind: NNE 11 mph
Wind Chill: -14

;^)
Real Cold

Rhinelander WI

A Few Clouds

-17°F

-27°C

Humidity73%
Wind SpeedW 7 mph
Barometer30.08 in (1024.4 mb)
Dewpoint-23°F (-31°C)
Visibility10.00 mi
Wind Chill-34°F (-37°C)

Last Update on 21 Jan 8:53 pm CST

Current conditions at

Rhinelander-Oneida County Airport (KRHI)

Lat: 45.63 Lon: -89.47 Elev: 1663ft.
Check out this place in central Ontario...

Armstrong
Date: 10:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Pressure: 30.2 inches
Temperature: -39.8°F
Dewpoint: -47.9°F
Humidity: 62 %
Wind: calm

Thankfully, winds are calm.

(sarcasm intended)
Time to Call it a Night - Sleep Well - Bundle Up - Stay Safe - Have a Good Night.
Raw, unedited footage of a heavy snow squall blasting through my area yesterday, Sunday.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Current look at temperatures across this part of the world...

* Sizzling 70F in Miami, Florida.

* Mild 7F in Chicago, Illinois.

* Balmy -20F in Thunder Bay, Canada.



-100F????? REALLY??

I think up to -60F is enough
On the naming of winter storms issue, I agree with the Dr. that it's a good experiment. Part of every experiment is looking at the methodology, the execution, the results, etc. That's what we debate here. I'd think that they're studying and debating the experiment at TWC themselves.
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To me, so far it's a noble idea that's faulty in it's methodology. Way too nebulous. Travel delays? Signifigant? Widespread?...there's no standard in science here. How can you expect the public to react to standards that nobody knows, and TWC makes up on the fly. It's something they need to look at, imo. Plus the names themselves are Monty Python silly.
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Then, in execution, they name every front that rolls in, most of which are routine. How is the public expected to tell the difference between the normal winter front and something more serious when you're naming the routine the same as the extreme?
um.......





The Bureau of Meteorology warns that, at 3:00 pm, severe thunderstorms were detected on weather radar near Wollongong, Bargo, Bulli, Lake Cataract, Unanderra and Lake Nepean. These thunderstorms are moving towards the northeast. They are forecast to affect Appin, Picton, Wedderburn, Darkes Forest, Helensburgh and Stanwell Park by 3:30 pm and Sutherland, Camden, Campbelltown, Engadine, Oran Park and Oakdale by 4:00 pm.
Large hailstones, heavy rainfall that may lead to flash flooding and damaging winds are likely.
Avon Fire Tower received 31mm of rainfall in 15 mins to 2:25pm .
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


-100F????? REALLY??

I think up to -60F is enough
The temperatures on GREarth is adjustable. I guess -100 F to 100 F range is the way he like it.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


-100F????? REALLY??

I think up to -60F is enough

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Quote screwed up


Ojmjakon, Russia
Elevation
2444 ft
Station Select
Now
Smoke
Temperature
-64F

Typically one of the coldest places in the northern hemisphere. It is the afternoon there to.
Quoting SteveDa1:

Is this a competition?

Saint-Hubert Airport
Date: 10:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 30.0 inches
Visibility: 10 miles
Temperature: 2.3 F
Dewpoint: -6.5 F
Humidity: 66 %
Wind: NNE 11 mph
Wind Chill: -14

;^)


From HOT!!!!




To ffffrrrreeeezzzziiiinnnnnggggg cccccoooolllldddd



Quoting AussieStorm:
um.......



The Bureau of Meteorology warns that, at 3:00 pm, severe thunderstorms were detected on weather radar near Wollongong, Bargo, Bulli, Lake Cataract, Unanderra and Lake Nepean. These thunderstorms are moving towards the northeast. They are forecast to affect Appin, Picton, Wedderburn, Darkes Forest, Helensburgh and Stanwell Park by 3:30 pm and Sutherland, Camden, Campbelltown, Engadine, Oran Park and Oakdale by 4:00 pm.
Large hailstones, heavy rainfall that may lead to flash flooding and damaging winds are likely.
Avon Fire Tower received 31mm of rainfall in 15 mins to 2:25pm .


Looks like the storms are heading more east than north, at least currently.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 29.9 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 11.1°F
Dewpoint: 0.9°F
Humidity: 63 %
Wind: W 22 mph
Wind Chill: -8


What's that temp in real degrees? lol
An update to Jeff's info above in the blog entry. Langdon, Nd not quite as cold as stated and Warroad, Mn slightly colder than Le Center, Mn. These are from the NWS out of Grand Forks

Site wind chill (fahrenheit)

Langdon ND... ... ... ... .-49
Cando ND... ... ... ... ... -48
Devils Lake ND... ... ... -46
Warroad MN... ... ... ... .-45
Roseau MN... ... ... ... ..-42
Cavalier ND... ... ... ... -42
Cooperstown ND... ... ... -42
Fergus Falls MN... ... ..-41
Wadena MN... ... ... ... ..-41
Bemidji MN... ... ... ... .-41
Fosston MN... ... ... ... .-41
Grafton ND... ... ... ... .-40
Crookston MN... ... ... ..-40
Thief River Falls MN... -39
Park Rapids MN... ... ... -39
Detroit Lakes MN... ... .-39
Grand Forks ND... ... ... -38
Valley City ND... ... ... -38
Fargo ND... ... ... ... ... -37
Wahpeton ND... ... ... ... -37
Quoting Bluestorm5:
The temperatures on GREarth is adjustable. I guess -100 F to 100 F range is the way he like it.


so be it...it's his thing after all
I wonder if Nea put any stock into TWC.Which is probably why he always defends it when it comes to someone not supporting the naming thing.I personally think it is retarded...but whatever and don't get me started on those down right awful names....
Quoting 47n91w:


Looks like the storms are heading more east than north, at least currently.

Looks like they are headed North east to me on Radar.
Quoting washingtonian115:
I wonder if Nea put any stock into TWC.Which is probably why he always defends it when it comes to someone not supporting the naming thing.I personally think it is retarded...but whatever and don't get me started on those down right awful names....
I doubt it because he hates the groups who own it. Such as Bain Capital and The Blackrock Group. I can't believe he even posts here, knowing this.
Quoting Bielle:


What's that temp in real degrees? lol


Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 11:00 PM EST Monday 21 January 2013
Condition: Clear
Pressure: 101.3 kPa
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 24 km
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: -11.7°C
Dewpoint: -17.3°C
Humidity: 63 %
Wind: W 34 gust 45 km/h
Wind Chill: -22
Just dropped down to 1F after I though I would level off around 3F. Might even make it to zero tonight, the lakes can only warm the air so much.
and if ya want a deadly storm that will be next wed/thur

but it may be more epic than deadly

987mb low at 500mb level centred over just sw of jersey

Port Hedland closing as tropical low approaches
A blue alert has been issued for Pilbara communities as a tropical low intensifies off the North West coast.

The low is currently about 195 kilometres east north-east of Port Hedland and is expected to intensify into a category one tropical cyclone in the next 24 hours.

The Port Hedland Port Authority has evacuated its inner and outer anchorages.

The authority says it has moved 35 vessels further out to sea to avoid the potential cyclonic weather; they were anchored preparing to return to port before the decision was made.

There are currently seven ships moored in the docks that are being loaded but the port is to close later today and those ships will be sent out to sea.

A Chevron spokesperson says it is monitoring the low to see if there will be any impact on its Gorgon Project at Barrow Island and Onslow.

"We're monitoring the situation and will work with our contractors to make the necessary precautionary arrangements," he said.

"Our number one priority is the health and safety of our people."

Apache says it has also begun preparations and will make safe all its facilities.

In a statement, the company says its Stag and Van Gogh fields are being shut down and all non-essential personnel from offshore operations are being evacuated.

Woodside says it is taking the necessary precautions to safeguard its people and assets.

Forecasters predict the system will affect the coastal Pilbara town of Dampier tomorrow night.

A spokeswoman for the port says at this stage, vessels within the inner harbour will continue to load as per normal.


© ABC 2013
Samoa keeps watch on passing cyclone

Warnings of storms and strong winds are in place for Samoa, with tropical cyclone Garry passing nearby.
The storm was 125 nautical miles north-east of the capital, Apia, earlier on Tuesday.
The category one cyclone was expected to intensify to category two as it moves south-east away from Samoa. American Samoa''s eastern islands were expecting winds up to storm-force.
Mulipola Titimaea, from Samoa's National Disaster Management Office, told the system was unpredictable.
"We are still maintaining our warnings, wind levels, the storm warnings, the storm surge, and also the possibility of heavy rain that might lead to flooding and landslide."
In American Samoa, Mase Akapo, from the Pago Pago office of the US National Weather Service, said the main island of Tutuila could expect gale-force winds, developing into storm-force, as Garry moves over the Manu'a islands.
"It looks as if once it passes American Samoa then it's going to head towards Raratonga, the Cook (Islands) and looks like it will intensify even stronger than that," he said.
Mr Titimaea, speaking of the storm's unpredictability, said it was similar to last month's devastating cyclone Evan "in character and formation, so we've learnt from that it's unpredictable."
The forecaster said: "If you compare it with (tropical cyclone) Evan . . . Evan was predicted to move south-west, but it moved north-east."
Garry was a very small system. "Some forecasters and scientists call them 'black swan' because it's hard to pick up the intensity from the radar centre."

More storms loom

Mr Titimaea said there was another depression to the east but it is very weak. "There's also an interesting one to the west, which could be forming again where the depression of Garry formed.
"It's a very busy season for us Pacific forecasters."
Two hundred school students in Fiji will take classes in temporary shelters for at least a month after damage caused by cyclone Evan.
Schools reopened this week for the first time since cyclone Evan hit in December, causing an estimated $US43 million damage.
Manasa Tagicakibau, director of the National Disaster Management Office, says the rebuilding of school buildings damaged by Evan continues, so temporary shelters have been erected.
"We have had 14 schools that were badly damaged, and these were the schools that we've erected temporary shelters for," the director said.
"Apart from those 134 schools, other schools were badly damaged which the school children can still use the buildings while repair work carries on."

© ABC 2013
Invest 93S:



Oswald:



Garry:

SPECIAL WEATHER UPDATE 75
_________________________


POTENT SNOWSTORM ON FRIDAY FOR THE NORTHEAST...

Find yourself anywhere within the shaded area in the map, if so, you are in for significant snowfalls




click image for larger view...
Quoting iceagecoming:
Record cold kills 80 in Bangladesh
2013-01-10 10:44


India knows how to handle a cold winter, but it has rarely been so cold as it is this year. See the pictures.

Related Links

100+ die in record Indian cold snap
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China chills hit 28-year low



Dhaka - A cold snap which saw temperatures drop on Thursday to their lowest point in Bangladesh's post-independence history has killed around 80 people, officials said.

The weather office said the lowest temperature was recorded at 3ºC in the northern town of Syedpur and the Red Crescent said hospitals were packed with patients suffering respiratory illness.

Shah Alam, deputy head of the weather office, said the last time the temperature had dropped below 3ºC was in February 1968 when Bangladesh was still part of Pakistan.

"The temperature is the lowest in Bangladesh's history," he said.

The Red Crescent Society said impoverished rural areas had been worst hit as many people could not afford warm clothing or heating.

"They are not prepared for such extreme weather. Many could not even go to work," the society's general-secretary Abu Bakar said.

"According to the reports of our district offices and local administrations about 80 people have died due to cold-related diseases such as respiratory problems, pneumonia and cough," Bakar added.

Bangladesh, which is a tropical country, normally sees temperatures fall to around 10ºC at this time of year.

The weather office said temperatures were expected to rise from Saturday.


Link


It is really sad to read that this cold wave has taken lives in Bangladesh. Hard to believe that a population living in an area that has average lows of 50F (10C) this time a year would be so adversely affected by lows in the upper 30s.
307. emguy
Quoting stuostro:



The majority of tropical storms named by NOAA do not cause destruction.


I was very dissappointed in Stu's comment, which was in point counter point defense to naming winter storms. I have always respected him highly for his meteorological and scientific knowledge, as he is very brilliant, but his comment here sounded a bit more like a TV network sellout. I would have preferred he had not commented at all.

Tropical Weather Systems are named and defined by a specific set of atmospheric parameters which must be achieved...The Weather Channel Method of naming winter storms meets no such scientific parameter. Carte Blanche: and front, low, Noreaster, Alberta Clipper, Pacific Storm, Gulf of Alaska originating storm, Gulf of Mexico originating storm, or shortwave trough can (AND WILL) be named. I don't care what these folks think of this commentary, as they will continue to support and push the naming idea, in spite of its unpopularity.

For the record, Hurricane Charley destroyed my neighborhood in Port Charlotte in 2004. Otherwise, we had several other named storms which were minor tropical storms, but otherwise gave us a power flicker and/or flooding rains at the least. So far this winter, I have survived more Weather Channel named storms living in the north, than a lifetime of tropical cyclones in the south...and during each of your name winter events...it was business as usual...and the power never blinked once.

From a standpoint of people, most up here laughed at the Weather Channel for naming something routine for the area...and I mean truely made a joking point of it...They think you guys are off your rocker. Then there was the other side...during Helen...it was covered on TV all day...but when Helen actually arrived...Lifeguard and Coast Guard stuff was on. This is WHEN people wanted to know what was going on...and YOU dropped the ball. Fortunately, the local news covered it. You...and the Weather Channel are loosing your market, and will only survive by A.) Getting back to Science and Weather, and B.) Be all in when you name it. Get back to your base and just cover the weather 24/7...No more news tidbits....no more reality TV...get back to real weather 24/7.
Quoting Slamguitar:

Just dropped down to 1F after I though I would level off around 3F. Might even make it to zero tonight, the lakes can only warm the air so much.


Well there it is, I'm now at -1F with a -18F wind chill. Hopefully that's where it stops. My feet are cold.
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Perth
Tropical Cyclone Advice #7
TROPICAL LOW 08U
2:51 PM WST January 22 2013
===========================================

At 2:00 PM WST, Tropical Low (998 hPa) located at 19.4S 119.4E or 130 km northeast of Port Hedland and 305 km east northeast of Karratha has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The low is reported as moving west at 6 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0/2.0/D1.0/24 HRS

The low may develop into a tropical cyclone on Wednesday as it moves to the west just off the Pilbara coastline. If the system does reach cyclone intensity then gales with wind gusts to 55 knots could develop between De Grey and Dampier during Wednesday possibly extending west to Onslow on Thursday. Squally thunderstorms are expected with locally heavy rainfall.


Tropical Cyclone Warning
=========================
A Cyclone WARNING continues for a developing tropical low for coastal areasnfrom De Grey to Mardie, including Port Hedland and Karratha

Tropical Cyclone Watch
=======================
A Cyclone WATCH continues for coastal areas from Mardie to Onslow

Forecast and Intensity
==========================
12 HRS: 19.5S 118.3E - 30 knots (Tropical Low)
24 HRS: 20.1S 117.4E - 40 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Cyclone)
48 HRS: 20.9S 116.3E - 30 knots (Tropical Low)
72 HRS: 20.7S 114.1E - 25 knots (Tropical Low)

Additional Information
=======================
Limited deep convection continues about this small system, mainly constrained to the southern quadrants. Dvorak intensity provides ineffective guidance in this instance - intensity based on surface observations with Bedout Island recording winds in the 25 to 30 knot range and with mean sea level pressure falling to 998 hPa.

Upper conditions remain moderately favourable overnight, however development of a strong mid to upper level ridge to the east of the system [upstream from ex-Oswald] is likely to lead to strong northerly shear developing during Wednesday.

ECMWF and GFS computer models have consistently forecast the top half of the storm to rapidly separate due to this shear after 23 / 0600 UTC. The most recent ECMWF run suggests that the low level may drag southwards over the Pilbara region in the wake of the upper level circulation, instead of completely separating whilst over water. This change in guidance strategy will be considered in the next policy issue.

Gales are most likely to be observed in southern quadrants, with rainfalls in the order of 50 to 150 mm to the south and east of the track.
At 9:30 AM EST, Ex-Tropical Cyclone "Oswald" (993 hPa) located over Cape York Peninsula approximately 200 km south of Weipa. It is expected to remain slow moving overland during the next three days.
Good Morning folks!..coffee is perked for you all when you get here..have a great day everyone!
Freeze Watch tonight all the way down to LAKELAND FL.........................URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
219 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

...A FREEZE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY
WEDNESDAY MORNING...

.THE CALM CENTER OF HIGH PRESSURE IS FORECAST TO MOVE VERY NEAR TO
THE TRI STATE REGION OVERNIGHT. THE LIGHT WINDS WILL COUPLE WITH
MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES TO ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO DROP STEADILY THROUGH
THE NIGHT. A MARGINAL FREEZE IS EXPECTED...WITH SUB FREEZING
DURATIONS ON THE ORDER OF 2 TO 3 HOURS.
freeze watch ......INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...TALLAHASSEE...SPRING HILL...
MONTICELLO...MADISON...GREENVILLE...PERRY...MIDWA Y...MAYO...
CROSS CITY...GEORGETOWN...FORT GAINES...CUTHBERT...SHELLMAN...
ARLINGTON...MORGAN...EDISON...LEARY...DAWSON...AL BANY...
LEESBURG...SMITHVILLE...SYLVESTER...ASHBURN...TIF TON...
FITZGERALD...OCILLA...DOUGLASVILLE...BLAKELY...CO LQUITT...
NEWTON...CAMILLA...PELHAM...MOULTRIE...ADEL...SPA RKS...
NASHVILLE...DONALSONVILLE...BAINBRIDGE...CAIRO... THOMASVILLE...
QUITMAN...VALDOSTA...LAKELAND
219 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

...A FREEZE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY
WEDNESDAY MORNING...

* TEMPERATURE...MINIMUM TEMPERATURES BETWEEN 28 TO 30 DEGREES.

* DURATION...FREEZING TEMPERATURES EXPECTED WITHIN 2 TO 3 HOURS OF
SUNRISE.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WATCH MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE POSSIBLE.
THESE CONDITIONS COULD KILL CROPS AND OTHER SENSITIVE VEGETATION.
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
438 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

...LIGHT FREEZE POSSIBLE IN LEVY COUNTY TONIGHT...

.COLD HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD IN FROM THE NORTH TONIGHT.

FLZ039-222200-
/O.NEW.KTBW.FZ.A.0001.130123T0900Z-130123T1300Z/
LEVY-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CEDAR KEY...CHIEFLAND
438 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

...FREEZE WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY
MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL HAS
ISSUED A FREEZE WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TONIGHT
THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING.

* TEMPERATURE...30 TO 32 DEGREES FOR 2 TO 4 HOURS.

* IMPACTS...DAMAGE IS POSSIBLE TO COLD SENSITIVE PLANTS. PLAN TO
COVER OR BRING INDOORS THESE PLANTS DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WATCH IS ISSUED FOR THE POTENTIAL OF A WIDESPREAD AND
DAMAGING FREEZE WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS. DURING THE FREEZE
PERIOD...TEMPERATURES MAY REMAIN BELOW 32 DEGREES FOR MORE THAN
2 HOURS.

&&
7-day for the Tampa Bay area..............
...ICY CONDITIONS THIS MORNING...

A HALF INCH TO AN INCH AND A HALF OF SNOW FELL IN MUCH OF CENTRAL
AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY, EXTREME SOUTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND THE
FAR UPPER DELMARVA ON MONDAY EVENING. UNTREATED ROADS AND WALKWAYS
WILL REMAIN SLIPPERY THIS MORNING WITH TEMPERATURES MAINLY IN THE
UPPER TEENS AND LOWER 20S.

IF YOU WILL BE GOING OUT THIS MORNING, BE PREPARED FOR HAZARDOUS
CONDITIONS. IF YOU WILL BE DRIVING, USE EXTRA CARE AND BE SURE TO
LEAVE PLENTY OF ROOM BETWEEN YOUR VEHICLE AND THE ONE AHEAD OF
YOU.

$$

IOVINO
G'mornin' Largo.

Chilly at 42.4F here this morning.
Good morning Largo and Doug and anyone else who is up. Evening, Aussie. It's 40 degrees here this morning, but supposed to be about 70 later on. I think it's even dried up enough to take the kids out to recess today and be able to enjoy a beautiful day.
I've put some bacon and eggs over with Largo's coffee for breakfast.

This week looks to be a beautiful spring weather week for us here in Louisiana.
Quoting aislinnpaps:
I've put some bacon and eggs over with Largo's coffee for breakfast.

This week looks to be a beautiful spring weather week for us here in Louisiana.



G'mornin' back. Sposed to be very pleasant here as well today. Gotta bagel?
Good morning everybody. I know we pay for it in the summer but it's beautiful here now. :)

THE UNSEASONABLY WARM TEMPERATURES WILL PERSIST INTO WEDNESDAY.

&&

.OUTLOOK...
AN ALBERTA CLIPPER WILL RACE SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST...
REACHING THE MID-ATLANTIC REGION ON FRIDAY. ITS ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT
WILL MOVE THROUGH THE WESTERN UPPER GULF COAST STATES BY FRIDAY
EVENING...BEFORE RUNNING UP AGAINST THE BERMUDA-GULF OF MEXICO WALL
OF HIGH PRESSURE ON SATURDAY.

THE COLD FRONT COMES TO A HALT ACROSS THE FARSHORE WATERS BY
SATURDAY EVENING.

HIGH PRESSURE DOMES ACROSS CENTRAL FLORIDA ON SUNDAY...SHOVING THE
AFOREMENTIONED STALLED FRONT NORTHWARD AS A WARM FRONT.

Its 14 degrees, and feels like 0 degrees.... Just a little chilly
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



G'mornin' back. Sposed to be very pleasant here as well today. Gotta bagel?


But of course, with cream cheese and jelly!

Morning, AtHome and Doppler!
Quoting aislinnpaps:


But of course, with cream cheese and jelly!

Morning, AtHome and Doppler!


Mornin' aislinn. :)
Mornin' everyone!

Afternoon Aussie!

Chilly and clear this morning, calm winds. Should've run out to the beach to walk and throw a spoon, but was just tooooo lazy.
327. beell
Another severe weather/snow combo showing up in the models. As of now, snow on the cold side from the OK/TX panhandle area moving NE towards the Lower Great Lakes, Severe in a rather large warm sector across the Gulf Coast and SE. A few folks have been watching over the last 2-3 days. Just coming into the extended range of SPC products (4-8 day Outlook). For next Monday and Tuesday.

DAY 4-8 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0252 AM CST TUE JAN 22 2013

VALID 251200Z - 301200Z

...DISCUSSION...
THE ECMWF AND GFS MODELS ARE IN MUCH BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE
EVOLUTION OF THE PATTERN OVER THE NEXT 8 DAYS...WITH THE POTENTIAL
FOR THUNDERSTORMS...POSSIBLY SEVERE...BEGINNING MON-TUE NEXT WEEK.

A POWERFUL SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS FORECAST TO MOVE SEWD ACROSS THE
UPPER AND MIDDLE MS VALLEY ON FRI/D4...AND WILL AMPLIFY AS IT
APPROACHES THE E COAST ON SAT/D5. BEHIND THIS TROUGH...A LARGE AREA
OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL MAINTAIN COOL AND DRY WEATHER OVER THE CNTRL
AND ERN STATES.

BY SUN/D6 INTO MON/D7...THERE IS CONSISTENCY IN DROPPING A STRONG
SHORTWAVE TROUGH OR UPPER LOW SWD ACROSS THE GREAT BASIN...THEN
MOVING IT INTO THE PLAINS OR MS VALLEY ON TUE/D8. THERE APPEARS TO
BE SUFFICIENT TIME WITH FAVORABLE LOW LEVEL TRAJECTORIES TO BRING
SUBSTANTIAL MOISTURE NWD ACROSS THE GULF OF MEXICO AND INTO ERN TX
AND ACROSS THE GULF COAST STATES. THE LIKELY JUXTAPOSITION OF STRONG
FLOW ALOFT OVER A SUFFICIENTLY BROAD MOIST SECTOR SUGGEST THAT
SEVERE WEATHER WOULD BE LIKELY IF THIS SCENARIO OCCURS.
HOWEVER...WILL WAIT FOR MORE RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY FROM THE VARIOUS
MODELS BEFORE INTRODUCING ANY POTENTIAL SEVERE AREAS THIS FAR IN
ADVANCE.

..JEWELL.. 01/22/2013
Everyone have a great Tuesday, Aussie a great Wednesday!
329. EvPv
Only once have conditions been present (and work schedule) that let me do a bike ride completely sub 0°. When I left my house that day it was -7° and when I got home it was -1.8°.
(That ride was about 10 miles)
I may get a window on Wednesday or Thursday morning before work to do it again. Possibly get to -10°. I'll bike to the coldest spot in town (within range) to see what I can get to.
It breaks up the Maine winter, plus it puts any daily work issues into perspective when you bike 5-10 miles in winter conditions.
Quoting aislinnpaps:


But of course, with cream cheese and jelly!

Morning, AtHome and Doppler!




Morning, Ainslinn.
Quoting PensacolaDoug:



G'mornin' back. Sposed to be very pleasant here as well today. Gotta bagel?



You're kidding, Doug? Right?



Quoting indianrivguy:
Mornin' everyone!

Afternoon Aussie!

Chilly and clear this morning, calm winds. Should've run out to the beach to walk and throw a spoon, but was just tooooo lazy.




Morning Indian River Guy. How are you today, Sir? Fine I imagine.



Quoting EvPv:
Only once have conditions been present (and work schedule) that let me do a bike ride completely sub 0°. When I left my house that day it was -7° and when I got home it was -1.8°.
(That ride was about 10 miles)
I may get a window on Wednesday or Thursday morning before work to do it again. Possibly get to -10°. I'll bike to the coldest spot in town (within range) to see what I can get to.
It breaks up the Maine winter, plus it puts any daily work issues into perspective when you bike 5-10 miles in winter conditions.


From where I sit, it just shows you haven't a lick of sense..:) brrrrrrr, not a chance this south Florida boy rides a bike in that cold. I will root for you from here... in shorts, no shirt no shoes.. and warm. :)
Both of my family's vehicles wouldn't start this morning. I wonder why...



Just refreshed the page and it got 1C colder O_o
Quoting TomballTXPride:




Morning Indian River Guy. How are you today, Sir? Fine I imagine.





I am plenty good enough thank you, I hope all is well with you and yours also!
Quoting yqt1001:
Both of my family's vehicles wouldn't start this morning. I wonder why...



wow.. just wow... You are a LOT tougher than me.
Quoting yqt1001:
Both of my family's vehicles wouldn't start this morning. I wonder why...



Just refreshed the page and it got 1C colder O_o
Should have plugged them in last night.
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
G'mornin' Largo.

Chilly at 42.4F here this morning.
2 here in central il
Reporting in from West Palm Beach...Largo, the coffee is cold!

Quoting nymore:
Should have plugged them in last night.

How do you "plug" a car in? What does that mean, we don't have weather cold enough that we'd have to plug a car or another vehicle in.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Reporting in from West Palm Beach...Largo, the coffee is cold!



Sounds like someone isn't doing their job keeping the coffee cold. Shame on you, Geoffrey.

Coffee is hot and fresh over here, Largo. And everyone else is welcome. Water for you, Geoffrey.

Quoting nymore:
An update to Jeff's info above in the blog entry. Langdon, Nd not quite as cold as stated and Warroad, Mn slightly colder than Le Center, Mn. These are from the NWS out of Grand Forks

Site wind chill (fahrenheit)

Langdon ND... ... ... ... .-49
Cando ND... ... ... ... ... -48
Devils Lake ND... ... ... -46
Warroad MN... ... ... ... .-45
Roseau MN... ... ... ... ..-42
Cavalier ND... ... ... ... -42
Cooperstown ND... ... ... -42
Fergus Falls MN... ... ..-41
Wadena MN... ... ... ... ..-41
Bemidji MN... ... ... ... .-41
Fosston MN... ... ... ... .-41
Grafton ND... ... ... ... .-40
Crookston MN... ... ... ..-40
Thief River Falls MN... -39
Park Rapids MN... ... ... -39
Detroit Lakes MN... ... .-39
Grand Forks ND... ... ... -38
Valley City ND... ... ... -38
Fargo ND... ... ... ... ... -37
Wahpeton ND... ... ... ... -37


I wonder why Nea didnt post these temps?
Quoting ncstorm:


I wonder why Nea didnt post these temps?




Um, I think that is pretty clear why he didn't. It wouldn't support his climate change agenda. Kinda like he only plusses certain member's comments in Ricky's Blog...



344. ARiot
Quoting AussieStorm:

How do you "plug" a car in? What does that mean, we don't have weather cold enough that we'd have to plug a car or another vehicle in.


In cold places, you need an electric engine block or oil pan heater, or both. Even in not so cold places, some diesel truck owners use them.

Cool here in on the outskirts of Tomball. But nothing compared to the shivering up north...
The CPC 8-14 day outlook map for windchill-no "toasty" here but "frosty"





looks like it differs from the infamous other map that is posted so much here on the blog..

Quoting ncstorm:
The CPC 8-14 day outlook map for windchill-no "toasty" here but "frosty"





looks like it differs from the infamous other map that is posted so much here on the blog..



I know right, something we have not seen very much at all lately, exception being Alaska. Don't think we'll see too many record lows though. Models were wanting to make the entire month of February rather cold for the lower 48. Crossing Fingers on that!
Henry Margusity Fan Club
Bigfork, MN comes in with a -60 Realfeel temp and a measured temp of -33 this morning.
Monsoon trough brings heavy downpours



Heavy rain continues to pummel large parts of far north Queensland in the wake of tropical cyclone Oswald, which crossed the coast early this morning and was promptly downgraded. The weather bureau says the category one system made landfall between the Aboriginal communities of Pormpuraaw and Kowanyama about 1:00am (AEDT).
Further north, Weipa felt wind gusts of up to 90 kilometres an hour.
Kowanyama's airport was closed after torrential rain damaged the runway overnight.
Pormpuraaw's airstrip is flooded.
Daryl Camp from Emergency Management Queensland says it is a major issue for both communities, which are regularly isolated by road closures during the wet season.
"They're cut off every year with the roads so they do rely fairly heavily on the airstrip, especially Kowanyama which is ... about 20 to 25 kilometres inland," he said.
"They rely very heavily on the aircraft - Pormpuraaw to a lesser degree but they have trouble getting a barge in there."
Damaging winds gusts are affecting the Peninsula district and they are expected to develop on the North Tropical Coast and Tablelands later tonight.



Power out

Hundreds of properties are still without power on western Cape York.
Ergon Energy says it hopes to fly a repair crew to Weipa this afternoon.
Heavy rain today has caused flooding south of Cairns, closing some roads.
Some parts of the Gulf Country have missed out on heavy rain thus far.
But weather bureau senior forecaster Brett Harrison says the system is likely to stay over the Peninsula for the next two days before possibly re-entering the Gulf.
"We are seeing some very heavy rainfall over the northern tropics," he said.
"A lot of it is associated with the cyclone but also the monsoon trough that is very strong around the Cairns area.
"We have seen the heaviest rainfall around the Tully and Innisfail region with over 300mm recorded since 9am yesterday and we expect the rain to continue.
"We do expect heavy rain to continue throughout the next few days with the monsoon trough."
Mr Harrison says Oswald is expected to continue moving inland before tracking south tomorrow.

Storm surge

Carpentaria Mayor Fred Pascoe says graziers are hoping for big rain falls from the system.
He says authorities have been preparing, and a command centre has been set up in the shire, with a particular focus on Karumba, in case a cyclone re-forms.
"If this thing does come back, predictions are it is going to land on the western side of the Gulf," he said.
"If it lands on the western side of Karumba, there is the real potential for a storm surge, which is probably more of a hazard than a cyclone, given the flat country we have got up here.

© ABC 2013
Quoting ARiot:


In cold places, you need an electric engine block or oil pan heater, or both. Even in not so cold places, some diesel truck owners use them.


Is it like an electric blanket or something like that?
Some one's gonna need to make an asteroid-capable weather station...
"A new asteroid-mining company launches Tuesday with the goal of helping humanity expand across the solar system by tapping the vast riches of space rocks." Complete Article

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/01/22/asteroid -mining-project-aims-for-deep-space-colonies/#ixzz 2IiFtJAq3


Quoting AussieStorm:

Is it like an electric blanket or something like that?
It is a little heater that heats either the water or oil, therefore it keeps your engine block warm.

There have been times where I can not plug my diesel in, when it was very cold I just let it run all night long
Quoting AussieStorm:

Is it like an electric blanket or something like that?


sometimes. They also have a heater that goes in the oil dipstick tube, and heats the oil from inside the oil pan.
Quoting ncstorm:
Henry Margusity Fan Club
Bigfork, MN comes in with a -60 Realfeel temp and a measured temp of -33 this morning.
Without AGW these temp's would have been much colder,see the trend here folks!
Quoting ncstorm:
Henry Margusity Fan Club
Bigfork, MN comes in with a -60 Realfeel temp and a measured temp of -33 this morning.
I just cannot imagine..what that feels like..especially with a wind..lowest ive ever felt was minus 10 degree's and that wasnt any fun at all with a stiff breeze...folks up there probably know but ..be careful of frost bite
Quoting LargoFl:
I just cannot imagine..what that feels like..especially with a wind..lowest ive ever felt was minus 10 degree's and that wasnt any fun at all with a stiff breeze...folks up there probably know but ..be careful of frost bite


yeah, how do you dress for that?? I wonder if they cancel schools due to those temps?..reminds me of the kid in a Christmas story..they must have some serious antifreeze up there for those car engines..
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Reporting in from West Palm Beach...Largo, the coffee is cold!

LOL you should have got here sooner LOL..was real nice here this morning until daylight came then it got cooler..somewhere in the high 50's now supposed to go up to 69 later, couple of cool days ahead by me..nothing at all like up north geez
Quoting LargoFl:
I just cannot imagine..what that feels like..especially with a wind..lowest ive ever felt was minus 10 degree's and that wasnt any fun at all with a stiff breeze...folks up there probably know but ..be careful of frost bite
This is something you get used to seeing where I live.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND CHILL WARNING MEANS THE COMBINATION OF VERY COLD AIR AND
WIND WILL CREATE DANGEROUSLY LOW WIND CHILL VALUES. THIS WILL
RESULT IN FROST BITE AND LEAD TO HYPOTHERMIA OR DEATH IF
PRECAUTIONS ARE NOT TAKEN.
Quoting ncstorm:


yeah, how do you dress for that?? I wonder if they cancel schools due to those temps?..reminds me of the kid in a Christmas story..they must have some serious antifreeze up there for those car engines..
yeah i'd keep my kids home from school or..if my car DID start i'd drive them there and pick them up..roads must be iced too..real dangerous those temps are
Quoting nymore:
It is a little heater that heats either the water or oil, therefore it keeps your engine block warm.

There have been times where I can not plug my diesel in, when it was very cold I just let it run all night long

I've seen that on Ice Road Truckers. Was going to ask about that.
engine block warmer..costs about $30.oo..........
gee even down close to was d.c..........URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
329 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

MDZ501-502-VAZ503-504-WVZ050-055-501>506-221630-
/O.EXT.KLWX.WC.Y.0001.000000T0000Z-130123T1700Z/
EXTREME WESTERN ALLEGANY-CENTRAL AND EASTERN ALLEGANY-
WESTERN HIGHLAND-EASTERN HIGHLAND-HAMPSHIRE-HARDY-WESTERN GRANT-
EASTERN GRANT-WESTERN MINERAL-EASTERN MINERAL-WESTERN PENDLETON-
EASTERN PENDLETON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FROSTBURG...CUMBERLAND...HIGHTOWN...
MONTEREY...MOOREFIELD...BAYARD...MOUNT STORM...PETERSBURG...
ELK GARDEN...KEYSER...FORT ASHBY...CIRCLEVILLE...FRANKLIN
329 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

...WIND CHILL ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON EST WEDNESDAY...

* WIND CHILL VALUES...5 TO 15 DEGREES BELOW ZERO...PARTICULARLY
AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS.

* TEMPERATURES...5 TO 20 ABOVE.

* WINDS...WEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND CHILL ADVISORY MEANS THAT VERY COLD AIR AND STRONG WINDS
WILL COMBINE TO GENERATE LOW WIND CHILLS. THIS WILL RESULT IN
FROST BITE AND LEAD TO HYPOTHERMIA IF PRECAUTIONS ARE NOT TAKEN.
IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUTDOORS...MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A HAT AND
GLOVES.

&&

$$
old man winter has arrived.............SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
540 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

NJZ001-007-008-PAZ055-221500-
SUSSEX-WARREN-MORRIS-MONROE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEWTON...WASHINGTON...MORRISTOWN...
STROUDSBURG
540 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

...SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS THIS MORNING...

SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED THIS MORNING IN MONROE COUNTY
IN PENNSYLVANIA, AS WELL AS IN THE NEW JERSEY COUNTIES OF SUSSEX,
WARREN AND MORRIS. THE SNOW SHOWERS MAY LEAVE A DUSTING TO AN INCH
OF NEW SNOW IN SPOTS, MAINLY IN THE ELEVATED TERRAIN. IF YOU WILL
BE DRIVING THIS MORNING, BE PREPARED FOR SLIPPERY SPOTS AND
REDUCED VISIBILITY.

$$

IOVINO
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

...EXCESSIVE COLD IMPACT...
COLD DRY AIR WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE INTO THE REGION ON NORTHERLY
WINDS TODAY AND TONIGHT. TEMPERATURES WILL DROP INTO THE MIDDLE
30S FOR INTERIOR SECTIONS OF THE NATURE COAST WITH PATCHY FROST
POSSIBLE IN PROTECTED AREAS. LEVY COUNTY COULD SEE TEMPERATURES
NEAR 30 DEGREES BY WEDNESDAY MORNING.

...WIND AND SEA IMPACT...
A BRIEF PERIOD OF 20 KNOT WINDS AND 5 TO 6 FOOT SEAS IS EXPECTED
ACROSS MUCH OF OUR WATERS TODAY. WINDS AND SEAS WILL BEGIN TO
DIMINISH LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

...FIRE WEATHER IMPACT...
VERY LOW HUMIDITIES ARE EXPECTED TODAY. THE NATURE COAST WILL SEE
5 TO 7 HOURS OF CRITICAL HUMIDITIES WHILE THE TAMPA BAY AREA WILL
SEE 3 TO 5 HOURS. LESS THAN 3 HOURS OF LOW HUMIDITIES ARE EXPECTED
FARTHER SOUTH. WINDS COULD APPROACH 15 MPH AT TIMES...FURTHERING
THE FIRE WEATHER DANGER TODAY.
Unbelievable snowfall rates taking place right now east of Lake Ontario . Radar snow echos of 25-35 dbz! NWS says reports of 2-4 inch per hour with isolated 5 in per hour totals. Wish I was there!!!



She's shifting south edging closer to Syracuse.

A BAND OF VERY HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL CONTINUE ACROSS
OSWEGO...SOUTHWESTERN LEWIS...AND FAR SOUTHERN JEFFERSON COUNTIES
THIS MORNING.

SNOWFALL RATES OF TWO TO FOUR INCHES PER HOUR...WITH SOME
ISOLATED SPOTS POSSIBLY SEEING RATES UP TO 5 INCHES PER
HOUR...WILL IMPACT THE SANDY
CREEK...REDFIELD...OSCEOLA...ALTMAR...PARISH...PU LASKI AND
WILLIAMSTOWN AREAS THROUGH 10 AM.
SPECIAL WEATHER UPDATE 75
_________________________


POTENT SNOWSTORM ON FRIDAY FOR THE NORTHEAST...
If you are in the shaded area, you could be in for some significant snow...



click pic for larger view...
370. ARiot
Quoting AussieStorm:

Is it like an electric blanket or something like that?


Some folks gave examples, and I suppose they technically *do* work on the same resistance principle (the metal wire is heated as low current passes through).

As a person who has never had a block heater, becuase I never permentantly lived far enough north, here are some other things I've done to make sure the car will start when living up north.

- remove battery and bring it inside since a warm battery is normally happier than a cold one

- drive front end of truck into brush as far as it'll go

- cover front of car with moving blankets and tarps

- on my motorcycle, in MD, I had an extention cord from the house to the shed and I'd plug in a battery tender connected to the battery and clamp a work light with 100 watt incandescent bulb near the oil bag. I'd turn it on about an hour before going out. (Older Harley Davidsons don't like to start in the low teens)

- I've taken oil out of a tractor, heated on a stove and put it back in :-)

In the military, as long as you weren't down for noise discipline, you would leave stuff running all night or have cyclical starts when deployed or training in cold areas. (I say leave 'em running :-) )
EvPv,

What do you put in your bicycle tires at that temperature. They aren't rubber filled with air are they?
5 miles out with a flat would really stink. Do your chain links ever lock up?
Quoting LargoFl:
LOL you should have got here sooner LOL..was real nice here this morning until daylight came then it got cooler..somewhere in the high 50's now supposed to go up to 69 later, couple of cool days ahead by me.


Quoting LargoFl:
gee even down close to was d.c..........URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
329 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

MDZ501-502-VAZ503-504-WVZ050-055-501>506-22163 0-
/O.EXT.KLWX.WC.Y.0001.000000T0000Z-130123T1700Z/
EXTREME WESTERN ALLEGANY-CENTRAL AND EASTERN ALLEGANY-
WESTERN HIGHLAND-EASTERN HIGHLAND-HAMPSHIRE-HARDY-WESTERN GRANT-
EASTERN GRANT-WESTERN MINERAL-EASTERN MINERAL-WESTERN PENDLETON-
EASTERN PENDLETON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FROSTBURG...CUMBERLAND...HIGHTOWN...
MONTEREY...MOOREFIELD...BAYARD...MOUNT STORM...PETERSBURG...
ELK GARDEN...KEYSER...FORT ASHBY...CIRCLEVILLE...FRANKLIN
329 AM EST TUE JAN 22 2013

...WIND CHILL ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON EST WEDNESDAY...

* WIND CHILL VALUES...5 TO 15 DEGREES BELOW ZERO...PARTICULARLY
AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS.

* TEMPERATURES...5 TO 20 ABOVE.

* WINDS...WEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND CHILL ADVISORY MEANS THAT VERY COLD AIR AND STRONG WINDS
WILL COMBINE TO GENERATE LOW WIND CHILLS. THIS WILL RESULT IN
FROST BITE AND LEAD TO HYPOTHERMIA IF PRECAUTIONS ARE NOT TAKEN.
IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUTDOORS...MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A HAT AND
GLOVES.

&&

$$


Yes, even here in eastern Mineral County. We had snow showers overnight but less than 1/2 inch so no worries this morning. But it was 5 this morning, with a windchill of -15. Days like this, when the lake effect snow showers are blowing around but nothing is accumulating, we locals say the "allegheny gnats" are flying :) We had next to no winter last year, so this is a refreshing change with a snow storm predicted for Thursday into Friday. Bundle up Washi, it's gonna be a cold week!
I see ex TC Oswald still has his circulation and it moving towards Cooktown ->SW'erly
Could he make it to the Coral sea and reform?



BOM Cairns 512km Loop

I'm going to bed now, could someone keep an occasional eye on Ex-TC Oswald for me while I'm gone. Thanks.

Goodnight all. Stay warm.
Good Night Aussie, Good Morning All the Rest - 53.1 here....
Quoting ncstorm:


yeah, how do you dress for that?? I wonder if they cancel schools due to those temps?..reminds me of the kid in a Christmas story..they must have some serious antifreeze up there for those car engines..


The school districts in northern Wisconsin usually close when wind chill values reach -40. And that's exactly what the values were this morning, so all schools across my area are closed. I'd imagine that each school district chooses their own threshold.

As a trickle-down effect, some businesses are closed today too. If there's no place for the kids to go, many parents are stuck at home. But really, when exposed skin freezes within 10 minutes, it's best to play it safe and limit outdoor time anyway.

Many memories as a kid that school was closed for cold temps and bitter wind chills.
CURRENT WEATHER
____________________

Windy
Temp: 21F
Feels like: 5F
I really am loving this cold weather with wind :).Chances are increasing for snow...But my hopes aren't high...
Lol, 2 degrees in Chicago.


Fair

-16°F

-27°C

Humidity70%
Wind SpeedW 7 mph
Barometer30.15 in (1027.0 mb)
Dewpoint-23°F (-31°C)
Visibility10.00 mi
Wind Chill-32°F (-36°C)

Last Update on 22 Jan 8:53 am CST

Current conditions at

Rhinelander-Oneida County Airport (KRHI)

Lat: 45.63 Lon: -89.47 Elev: 1663ft.


Fair

45°F

7°C

Humidity34%
Wind SpeedNNE 8 MPH
Barometer30.11 in (1018.7 mb)
Dewpoint18°F (-8°C)
Visibility10.00 mi
Wind Chill41°F (5°C)

Last Update on 22 Jan 6:53 am PST

Current conditions at

Riverside, Riverside Municipal Airport (KRAL)

Lat: 33.95139 Lon: -117.45056 Elev: 814ft.

Much Better 51.8 here
Coldest temp this morning in Wisconsin was -28 in Minong (means "place of plentiful blueberries" in Ojibwe), which isn't far from where the state's minimum record was recorded. On the south shore of Lake Superior, my low temp was the -14 shown on the map.

"lowest temperature on record was minus 55 F, reported from Couderay on both February 2 and February 4, 1996." (source)



Edit: just saw a second -28 on the map, east of Minong in a small town called Springstead.
383. bwi
Quoting EvPv:
Only once have conditions been present (and work schedule) that let me do a bike ride completely sub 0°. When I left my house that day it was -7° and when I got home it was -1.8°.
(That ride was about 10 miles)
I may get a window on Wednesday or Thursday morning before work to do it again. Possibly get to -10°. I'll bike to the coldest spot in town (within range) to see what I can get to.
It breaks up the Maine winter, plus it puts any daily work issues into perspective when you bike 5-10 miles in winter conditions.


My commute is 16 miles each way, but in DC it never gets that cold, so just normal tele-ski kind of bike gear is always plenty for warmth. My biggest problem when it's below freezing is that my water bottle slush up into slurpee-like frozen glop. However, I got some insulated water bottles that worked great this morning. It's funny how much water you need when it's cold, because it's so dry and you're still sweating at least a little!
Quoting indianrivguy:


sometimes. They also have a heater that goes in the oil dipstick tube, and heats the oil from inside the oil pan.
Correct... After spending 2 years in Fairbanks I remember all of the tricks to keep a car running... There is an oil pan heater, something called a perculator that keeps the water in the radiator moving so it won't freeze... There is also a heater that keeps running in the interior or the plastic interiors will crack... Also a film that has airspace that is put on the windows so they won't freeze and you can still see outside... Many areas had a outlet plug to plug your car into to keep warm... Some free, some you had to pay...But this was many. many years ago.I'm sure Levi knows more about this in the current times
Just went to see our Jr. High schooler have his spelling bee.... only 22 degrees still.. and it's a cold 22 degrees here in Mid TN this morning.. brrrrrrrrr! Puffy Jacket Event :/
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Correct... After spending 2 years in Fairbanks I remember all of the tricks to keep a car running... There is an oil pan heater, something called a perculator that keeps the water in the radiator moving so it won't freeze... There is also a heater that keeps running in the interior or the plastic interiors will crack... Also a film that has airspace that is put on the windows so they won't freeze and you can still see outside... Many areas had a outlet plug to plug your car into to keep warm... Some free, some you had to pay...But this was many. many years ago.I'm sure Levi knows more about this in the current times
Unbelieveably car tires would actually freeze at -50. It took a mile or so until the finally smooth out and you could drive without the clump, clump, clump
387. SuzK
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I still think the word is too strong for this weak and small impact-area-storm


That's because you weren't on the roads here yesterday, actively dealing with the snow-slickened and icy driving. If it wasn't deadly enough for you, it is ONLY by the grace of whatever. Seriously.
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Unbelieveably car tires would actually freeze at -50. It took a mile or so until the fianlly smooth out and you could drive without the clump, clump, clump
A good rule of thumb I've always lived by: Cars tires frozen = no drive
y'all talking about cold and stuff....
81 degrees here in Nassau. Love it.
Quoting aislinnpaps:
I've put some bacon and eggs over with Largo's coffee for breakfast.

This week looks to be a beautiful spring weather week for us here in Louisiana.


I'll take two over medium please :)

Looks to be a beautiful week here in Central TX as well. Pushing around 80+ near the end of the week.
Solar Energy Worker Leads Police on Pursuit in Utility Truck

Last night I heard my GF yell Burbank and I went in and there was a pursuit on the TV and they mentioned it was in an Industrial area and as
I was watching it the guy said Clark and Buena Vista which is about 4 blocks
from where I used to live in early 2004. Was looking for the 7 day and came across that first.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Current look at temperatures across this part of the world...

* Sizzling 70F in Miami, Florida.

* Mild 7F in Chicago, Illinois.

* Balmy -20F in Thunder Bay, Canada.



LOL..when did 70 degrees become "sizzling"??..90 degrees must be "turbo fire"
-60 degree's up there..thats 100 degree's colder than where i am..brrrrr.glad i dont live up there..wow
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF CENTRAL
MONTANA...SOUTH CENTRAL MONTANA...SOUTHEAST MONTANA AND NORTH
CENTRAL WYOMING.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

STRONG WINDS WILL CONTINUE ALONG THE FOOTHILLS FROM LIVINGSTON TO
NYE THROUGH THIS MORNING. WINDS OF 35 TO 45 MPH CAN BE EXPECTED
WITH GUSTS TO 65 MPH PRODUCING DANGEROUS CROSSWINDS ALONG
INTERSTATE 90 AND LOCAL ROADWAYS.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY

A FAST MOVING WEATHER SYSTEM WILL IMPACT THE REGION THURSDAY AND
BRING THE POTENTIAL FOR HIGH WINDS ALONG THE EASTERN PLAINS OF
MONTANA. WIND GUSTS OVER 45 MPH ARE LIKELY...AND UP TO 60 MPH
POSSIBLE. PEOPLE WITH TRAVEL PLANS OR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES THURSDAY
SHOULD MONITOR THE WEATHER FORECASTS THIS WEEK.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

WEATHER SPOTTERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SIGNIFICANT WEATHER
CONDITIONS ACCORDING TO STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

$$
Pensacola..if you havent left on your trip to colorado yet..pack an extra set of thermal long johns lol..man its Freezing up there
Quoting ncstorm:


LOL..when did 70 degrees become "sizzling"??..90 degrees must be "turbo fire"
yes sir. 120 is , well , I dunno..:)
Today's State Extremes
State Highs:
Avalon 66°F
Point Mugu 66°F
Los Angeles 64°F
Camarillo 59°F
San Diego Brown 57°F

State Lows:
Truckee-Tahoe 5°F
Alturas 10°F
South Lake Tahoe 10°F
Big Bear City 12°F
Lancaster 16°F

nothing below zero here.
54.9 here now.....
nice in Texas ..................
Quoting ncstorm:


LOL..when did 70 degrees become "sizzling"??..90 degrees must be "turbo fire"
When it's 70+ here in Palm Beach county ...then I know why I decided to stay here.... It is beautiful... Doors are open with a light breeze... Doesn't get any better.
7-day for the Tampa Bay area..................
cold all around D.C. today,20's and 30's
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
When it's 70+ here in Palm Beach county ...then I know why I decided to stay here.... It is beautiful... Doors are open with a light breeze... Doesn't get any better.
I am with you on that one..really nice here, just walked my dogs in the park, beautiful
Quoting LargoFl:
I am with you on that one..really nice here, just walked my dogs in the park, beautiful


Im freezing my feet up here.... feels like just 6F!
for the Mid-Gulf coast states................
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


Im freezing my feet up here.... feels like just 6F!
yep I hear ya, its why i packed up and moved to florida
Quoting ncstorm:
The CPC 8-14 day outlook map for windchill-no "toasty" here but "frosty"





looks like it differs from the infamous other map that is posted so much here on the blog..

A couple of things that might help clear up your confusion:

1) Windchill is not the same as temperature.

2) The CPC maps don't show forecasted temperatureshot and cold; they show the chances that temperatures will be higher and lower than the average for any given area. To use a few extreme examples: if an area that normally sees 100 degrees for a high has a really great chance of seeing highs only in the 80s next week, the CPC would shade that area blue. Likewise, if an area that averages 10F for a low is forecast to have a really great chance of seeing lows only into the mid 20s, it will appear red on those CPC outlook maps that are so often posted here.

To use one example from your maps: a forecast high chance of a 10F windchill is not in the least incompatible with a forecast calling for a low chance of an actual temperature in the 30s. It just takes some wind, that's all.

Thanks. I've enjoyed having this opportunity to clarify things.