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Bitter cold in Alaska and Europe; Alaska's -79°F reading bogus

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:08 PM GMT on January 31, 2012

Bitter cold temperatures gripped much of Alaska again this morning, and the month of January is setting numerous records for coldest January on record for much of northern Alaska. According to the Fairbanks weather office, here are the likely final rankings for January temperatures at select locations in Alaska during 2012:

Nome: coldest
Kotzebue: 2nd coldest
Barrow: not in top ten coldest
Galena: coldest
Bettles: coldest
Fairbanks: 5th coldest (coldest since 1971)

A major atmospheric jet stream pattern change is underway this week, though, which will bring more seasonable temperatures to Alaska by late in the week.


Figure 1. Departure of temperature from average as analyzed by the GFS model, for January 30, 2012. Remarkably cold air was present over northern Alaska, Eastern Europe, and Southern Asia, while very warm air was over the Central U.S. and much of Siberia.

European cold wave kills 58
Alaska isn't the only place suffering exceptionally cold temperatures this week. At least 58 people have died in the European cold wave over the past week, according to ABC News. Hardest hit was the Ukraine, where 30 people, most of them homeless, died.

Alaska's -79°F reading bogus
I reported in yesterday's post that a personal weather station located about 180 miles north of Fairbanks, the Jim River DOT site, apparently recorded a low temperature of -79°F Saturday morning (January 28, 2012). This is very close to the coldest temperature ever recorded in the U.S., a remarkable -80°F (-62.2°C) reading from Prospect Creek, AK (about a mile away from Jim Creek), on January 23, 1971. However, it turns out the that the electronic temperature sensor on the weather station at Jim Creek is only rated to -40°F. Furthermore, the voltage on the lithium battery that powers the stations drops dramatically below -50°F, resulting in bogus low temperatures. Here is the official work on the low temperatures at Jim River from the NWS:

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FAIRBANKS AK
252 PM AKST MON JAN 30 2012

...CLARIFICATION OF TEMPERATURES FROM JIM RIVER DOT CAMP...

TEMPERATURES THIS PAST WEEKEND AT THE ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION JIM RIVER MAINTENANCE CAMP AT MILE 138 DALTON HIGHWAY...STATION JMTA2...HAVE BEEN REPORTED AS LOW AS 79 BELOW.

THE TEMPERATURES ARE NOT CORRECT. THE WEATHER STATION IN USE AT THE JIM RIVER DOT CAMP IS A PERSONAL WEATHER STATION THAT IS NOT RATED FOR TEMPERATURE COLDER THAN 40 BELOW. THE UNREALISTICALLY LOW TEMPERATURES ARE BELIEVED TO BE A FUNCTION OF THE BATTERY FAILING AT VERY LOW TEMPERATURES.

THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STANDARD...TEMPERATURE MEASUREMENTS AT JIM RIVER DOT CAMP.

Jeff Masters
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Their getting hungry,poor guys
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This photo was taken during the latest CME solar energy to arrive from the sun. During this time we are also having our coldest temperatures of the winter, -55F when this photo was taken.
It seems that will wait till spring
It seems that will wait till spring

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Reader Comments

Interesting that the super cold in the north is balanced by the warmer temps in the lower latitudes. Is there a way to calculate the total global thermal energy, similar to how they measure ocean heat energy content during hurricane season? In other words, what's the total global temperature?
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In the lower 48 during the past week, 164 tied or bested high temperature records and 10 tied or bested low temperature records.

Link

Personally, I'd trade some of our warmth for Alaska's cold but don't get to make that decision.
Jeff mentioned in a the last blog that there was some unaccounted for "missing" energy in the earth's energy budget that had been speculated to be cached in deep ocean waters (and therefore hard to measure) or that had been used to evaporate stratospheric water vapor. Apprently, its out there in the open after all, hiding within the error of the measurements.

Link

On a weather note, the next's weeks evolution of the 500 mb height field is profoundly strange (very amplified...with an apparent mid continent "Rex-block" forming) and reminds me of a summertime pattern. Unless that big blocking ridge forecast to form over the west can shift well to the west, they'll be not much possibility of a winter left for the lower 48.
Let me guess........this cold spell is a result of Global Warming.
Quoting Progster:
Jeff mentioned in a the last blog that there was some unaccounted for "missing" energy in the earth's energy budget that had been speculated to be cached in deep ocean waters (and therefore hard to measure) or that had been used to evaporate stratospheric water vapor. Apparently, its out there in the open after all, hiding within the error of the measurements.

Link

On a weather note, the next's weeks evolution of the 500 mb height field is profoundly strange (very amplified...with an apparent mid continent "Rex-block" forming) and reminds me of a summertime pattern. Unless that big blocking ridge forecast to form over the west can shift well to the west, they'll be not much possibility of a winter left for the lower 48.
Quoting scooster67:
Let me guess........this cold spell is a result of Global Warming.


they will probably say that
didn't mean to self quote; just to fix a typo, lol.
There is a "MODIFY COMMENT" link on every comment, you can redo any comment that you post.
Quoting Patrap:
There is a "MODIFY COMMENT" link on every comment, you can redo any comment that you post.


Thanks Patrap. Not quite sure how I did that...finger trouble :)
Happens 2 me all da time,, thankfully, we have the Modify option, but for those who think they can make a "rogue" post, then remove it and put something else in its place, well, the original post stays in the server head.
modify comment is great...i use it every once n awhile:D
Quoting SPLbeater:
modify comment is great...i use it every once n awhile:D
For what?
Quoting Neapolitan:
For what?


Neo, be nice.
Anyone have a theory or reasoning to why northeast Canada/Eastern Canada is void of any cold weather anomalies? I ask this because with the warm air anomalies over the north pole, I would expect to see that circle of cool anomalies surrounding the majority of the warm anomaly, but instead we see that warm anomaly finger from that North Pole down into the lower 48. Does this have something to do with the Gulf Stream?
I really want a thunderstorm...
back l8r.
Quoting Neapolitan:
You are certainly entitled to your own belief, but what you stated is far too close to that of the ignorant ancients who simply ascribed a supernatural cause to everything they saw and experienced because they lacked the scientific knowledge to figure it out. Thunder was an angry god muttering; rain was the god crying; famine was the god's punishment; and so on. No, looking at something intricate and complex in the natural world and saying, "I don't understand it, so it must be The Great Being In The Sky who did it" isn't a type of logic with which I'm comfortable. ;-)

Lol..You sound like a grouchy old curmudgeon Nea..But your post is true..Back then, if they did not understand an act or event of nature, it must have been something supernatural or a God. It is however possible all things happen and exist because of God or a form of super-intelligence...I think it was Ovid that said" Man creates Gods by the dozen, but cannot even make a worm..:)
Quoting percylives:


Neo, be nice.
Huh? I was being nice; I am actually curious as to just what reason different members have had to employ the forum's "Modify Comment" function. I myself use it, for instance, when I find a glaring typo after posting, or when I've messed up the formatting somehow, or when I spot a factual error (or have one pointed out to me). That's all. I'm the nicest person you'd ever want to meet. I swear. ;-)
Would whomever is the adult in charge here please raise their hand???
Quoting presslord:
Would whomever is the adult in charge here please raise their hand???
put the hand down press
..recess, Im gonna eat my PB and J here on the stoop
I find it ironic that high temperatures in the US have prompted a resurgence in global warming chatter, precisely when temperatures globally have been cold.
.."your looking at the dog instead of the owner"..

Temperatures in Eastern & Southeastern Europe are continuing to plummet - according to reports, Bulgaria is set for a new energy consumption record tonight as 27 out of 28 provinces have an "orange" code event, the second worst. The previous record was 7270 megawatts on the 26 January 2010. At least 5 deaths have been confirmed in the country, adding to the growing death toll - 30 in Ukraine, 21 in Poland, 9 in Romania, 3 in Serbia and several more in Slovakia, Czech Republic and Bosnia, probably over 70 by now.

Temperatures are set to go down to -25/-30 C tonight in some areas across Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova & Ukraine.
Quoting kinase1:
Interesting that the super cold in the north is balanced by the warmer temps in the lower latitudes. Is there a way to calculate the total global thermal energy, similar to how they measure ocean heat energy content during hurricane season? In other words, what's the total global temperature?


That data usually gets published a few days after the end of the month.

I suspect the Earth is actually slightly warmer over all. We may even be in the top 10 warmest January.

What you're seeing is the NH, and look how much bigger the sum of the red areas are compared to the blue.

Plus, this is a projection of a hemisphere onto a disk. The area of the red blotches over the continental U.s. and over Africa, the middle east, and China are all severely "fore-shortened".

If you could see this map as an actual rotatable globe, like say in "Google Earth", you'd see that there isa hell of a lot more dark red than there is dark blue.
Europe is getting a deep freeze too..this video is from Denmark

Link
Quoting presslord:
Would whomever is the adult in charge here please raise their hand???
Good afternoon press, I posted a WU-mail to you about the boats..And what are your thoughts on this..? This is not normal at all..Not much moisture on the east side either..
"Climate Change - Has The Earth Been Cooling?"

YouTube Link

(I don't brake for trolls!)
Quoting hydrus:
Quoting Neapolitan:
You are certainly entitled to your own belief, but what you stated is far too close to that of the ignorant ancients who simply ascribed a supernatural cause to everything they saw and experienced because they lacked the scientific knowledge to figure it out. Thunder was an angry god muttering; rain was the god crying; famine was the god's punishment; and so on. No, looking at something intricate and complex in the natural world and saying, "I don't understand it, so it must be The Great Being In The Sky who did it" isn't a type of logic with which I'm comfortable. ;-)

Lol..You sound like a grouchy old curmudgeon Nea..But your post is true..Back then, if they did not understand an act or event of nature, it must have been something supernatural or a God. It is however possible all things happen and exist because of God or a form of super-intelligence...I think it was Ovid that said" Man creates Gods by the dozen, but cannot even make a worm..:)


@Nea: I was stating that because of our understanding, not ignorance, of the complexities of even the simplest process in nature we should seek to know the Greater Being who created it all in the first place.. Science does in no way contradict God.. it proves His existence if anything.. if you take what we have discovered about the natural order up to this point, how can you not see the statistical impossibility of the Earth and the life on it? Granted.. if you are not able to go beyond the limits of intellect you can not apprehend spiritual concepts.. BUT.. if you can at least ask God to show Himself to you He will.. in His own way in His own time.. you just gotta ask..

I am asking Him why my trees are budding in January?!
Quoting Patrap:
.."your looking at the dog instead of the owner"..

I didn't make any claims about long term trends,
it was just a statement of fact. Your interpreting it how you want it to sound for the purposes of your post. People seem quick to jump on any posts mentioning the word cold.
Human thought has created the problems we all face today, not God, nor any deity that the mind Manifests.


50,000 years of programming will do that.

As we slide down the Timewave Zero to the eschaton, expect a lot more radical Novelty in Nature and the World in General.

This barely raised a blip yesterday, as the "disclosure" is imminent from the Vatican to CNN.


Global New's
32. CycloneUK


Your assertion was incorrect so I used the opportunity to show it. Nothing more.

I respect all opinions.

Fresca?


Everything is relative to the observer, the observer in Nebraska,would rightly so, differ from one in Europe this Winter, one could say



Figure 1. Departure of global temperature from average for 2011. The Arctic was the warmest region, relative to average. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

2011: Earth's 11th warmest year; where is the climate headed?
Eastern China today, modifying the world's weather again, for the 365th time since last Jan. 31.
Quoting Patrap:
Human thought has created the problems we all face today, not God, nor any deity that the mind Manifests.


50,000 years of programming will do that.

As we slide down the Timewave Zero to the eschaton, expect a lot more radical Novelty in Nature and the World in General.

This barely raised a blip yesterday, as the "disclosure" is imminent from the Vatican to CNN.


Global New's



I'm going out on a limb and guessing it's part of a submerged temple complex from an unknown 12,000 year old civilization.

You can find all sorts of stuff from several thousand years ago in the English Channel and the Baltic Sea.
Quoting RTSplayer:



I'm going out on a limb and guessing it's part of a submerged temple complex from an unknown 12,000 year old civilization.

You can find all sorts of stuff from several thousand years ago in the English Channel and the Baltic Sea.


Agreed. I think they did say it was only 300 feet or so in depth, so its very shallow, but isn't that an area where a glacier was in place throughout the last ice age?....If it was then then you may have to put that date back even further which be fascinating.
Quoting CycloneUK:
I find it ironic that high temperatures in the US have prompted a resurgence in global warming chatter, precisely when temperatures globally have been cold:


Temperatures globally haven't been cold; much of eastern Europe and western Asia have been, however.

P.S. A quick FYI: that chart says "redistribution prohibited" at the bottom--and Ryan Maue is a member here. ;-)
Patrap

My assertion was incorrect? It was an observation. There was no emotional agenda there at all. Shall I spell it out for you? F.A.C.T.S.

Now that is an emotional agenda.
LOL

..it's been a Hard Day's Night"..
*Shows graph of global temperatures*

Quoting Neapolitan:
Temperatures globally haven't been cold


????
Did you know that power plant dust from China migrates toward the Arctic where it coats the ice cap with black soot. Then that air swoops down over the USA. You can smell the computer parts being burned for electricity. Any idea who used all those defunct computers before they were shipped back to China? That's what they call recycling!
Drought forces Texas town to truck in water

(AP) SPICEWOOD - Tanker trucks loaded with water have become the lifeline for a Texas lakefront village that came precariously close to becoming the state's first community to run out of drinking water during a historic drought.
Spicewood got its first delivery of water Monday under dark clouds and rain. The 8,000-gallon water delivery arrived after it became clear the village's wells could no longer produce enough water to meet the needs of the Lake Travis community's 1,100 residents and elementary school, said Clara Tuma, spokeswoman of the Lower Colorado River Authority.

The town uses wells, not the nearby lake, for its drinking water. Ryan Rowney, manager of water operations for the authority, said it plans to truck water into the Central Texas town for several more weeks while exploring alternatives, including drilling a new well or piping water from Lake Travis. But the agency doesn't want to rush into any project, and prefers for now to pay $200 per truckload of water while ensuring the tens of thousands of dollars it will cost to find a permanent solution are well-spent.

Video: Texas drought heats up
Video: Texas drought calling for desperate measures
Texas drought takes toll on farmers

Several towns and villages in Texas have come close to running out of water during the driest year in Lone Star State history, but until now none has had to truck in water. Most found solutions to hold them over, often paying tens of thousands of dollars to avoid hauling water, a scenario that conjures up images from the early 1900s, when indoor plumbing was a novelty.

"The hauling of water is just a Band-Aid approach. It's just a short-term approach," said Joe Don Dockery, a Burnet County commissioner that oversees the Spicewood area.

The Lower Colorado River Authority realized last week how dire the situation was, and informed Dockery on Monday. By the next day, the situation was worse - the well had dropped an additional 1.3 feet overnight. The severest forms of water restrictions were put in place, and the authority said there would be no new hookups to the town's water supply.

Water still ran Monday through pipes and faucets of Spicewood. But instead of being pumped from wells into the community's 129,000-gallon storage tank - a two day's supply of water - the already treated liquid will be hauled in from 17 miles away, treated a second time and put into the town's water system.

"If we need to haul every day, we will. This will probably go on for several more months," Rowney said.

Trucks, including at least one 6,000 gallon tanker, will make about four or five deliveries a day, Rowney said, but the town will still have to remain under the severest water restrictions.

"All you can do is take a bath, a shower, and that's really all you're allowed to do. You can flush the commode, but even that we're asking people to do judiciously," Rowney said.

Spicewood, about 35 miles from Austin, is home to many retirees who spend their weekdays in the city and drive to their lakeside homes on the weekends. Residents are now being careful, taking shorter showers, and some are even bringing their clothes to Laundromats.
Quoting Progster:
Jeff mentioned in a the last blog that there was some unaccounted for "missing" energy in the earth's energy budget that had been speculated to be cached in deep ocean waters (and therefore hard to measure) or that had been used to evaporate stratospheric water vapor. Apprently, its out there in the open after all, hiding within the error of the measurements.

Link

On a weather note, the next's weeks evolution of the 500 mb height field is profoundly strange (very amplified...with an apparent mid continent "Rex-block" forming) and reminds me of a summertime pattern. Unless that big blocking ridge forecast to form over the west can shift well to the west, they'll be not much possibility of a winter left for the lower 48.


"Hiding within the errors of measurement" is really not a good way to state this. A bit misleading, one might say.

From the article:
"The original study found that the Earth's temperature, which had been steadily rising, slowed its pace. But the new study notes that the methods for measuring characteristics of the ocean shifted in 2003.

When accounting for the margin of error of both methods employed, the new study states that the
apparent decline is "not statistically significant, nor is it observed by CERES."

Currently, data on the ocean is collected via the Argo program, which has dropped more than 3,000 floats in saltwater around the world. As the floats sink and rise, they measure the temperature and salt content of the water up to a depth of 1.25 miles (2,000 meters).

"Our data show that Earth has been accumulating heat in the ocean at a rate of half a watt per square meter (10.8 square feet), with no sign of a decline," Loeb said.
"
Quoting CycloneUK:
*Shows graph of global temperatures*



????
*highlights the word "global"

????

;-)
Such a cute prank, I wish I'd thought of it. The illusion probably wouldn't last for long...
...but the double takes it'd cause...
Quoting JNCali:


@Nea: I was stating that because of our understanding, not ignorance, of the complexities of even the simplest process in nature we should seek to know the Greater Being who created it all in the first place.. Science does in no way contradict God.. it proves His existence if anything.. if you take what we have discovered about the natural order up to this point, how can you not see the statistical impossibility of the Earth and the life on it? Granted.. if you are not able to go beyond the limits of intellect you can not apprehend spiritual concepts.. BUT.. if you can at least ask God to show Himself to you He will.. in His own way in His own time.. you just gotta ask..

I am asking Him why my trees are budding in January?!
i think spring comes early this year and everything else comes early with it.
Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 2:00 PM EST Tuesday 31 January 2012
Condition: Mostly Cloudy
Pressure: 29.86 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 4

Temperature: 48.7°F
Dewpoint: 37.2°F
Humidity: 64 %
Wind: WSW 13 mph
Quoting aspectre:
Such a cute prank, I wish I'd thought of it. The illusion probably wouldn't last for long...
...but the double takes it'd cause...


Yeah, it's a good prank, but it probably would have been better done in spot no quite as sensitive to flying objects as NYC. I'm surprised a couple of F-16's didn't show up to investigate.
today is a 20 degree above normal day and tomorrow as well we should be at 25 28 f for a high normally we are pushing near 49f today may break the 50 mark witin the next hour
Quoting hydrus:
Good afternoon press, I Co
Quoting hydrus:
Good afternoon press, I posted a WU-mail to you about the boats..And what are your thoughts on this..? This is not normal at all..Not much moisture on the east side either..


Could be becuase La Nina is fading which begs the question will we transition to El-nino by the end of the year. Look at this not talk about not normal for a La Nina. Talk about not being normal for the Dry Season!

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
today is a 20 degree above normal day and tomorrow as well we should be at 25 28 f for a high normally we are pushing near 49f today may break the 50 mark witin the next hour


It was 64 degrees F in Springfield, IL and that was just at 1 pm. I have bad feeling about the Texas drought expanding north through the Midwest this summer. There has been nearly zero snow and the ground has been above freezing for about 99% of the winter here which is just never heard of. I could conservatively say there is about a 4:1 ratio in the number of overnight lows above freezing vs. below freezing here as well.
Quoting ILwthrfan:


It was 64 degrees F in Springfield, IL and that was just at 1 pm. I have bad feeling about the Texas drought expanding north through the Midwest this summer. There has been nearly zero snow and the ground has been above freezing for about 99% of the winter here which is just never heard of. I could conservatively say there is about a 4:1 ratio in the number of overnight lows above freezing vs. below freezing here as well.
same thing here ground should be rock hard but its soft and mushy we had 4 inchest of snow last night and as of right now it has all but disapeared thats cause the ground is too warm and the early spring temps today makes for a rapid melt i bet my kid did not even get to play in the snow at lunch today because it already had melted by then now its just running water

ya its a good bet that we are going to see one of the driest summers and hottest on record this season for some reason

i was even out looking at trees on the property and there is some small buds starting to form the type ya get right around the first week of spring and today is 50f normally dont make it to that temp till mid march but mom has other plans i guess

all iam waiting on now is the robin to start pounching around on the lawn we dont see that till first week of april so we have to see if he shows up early as well
Dumping Giga-ton's of Pollutants into the Atmosphere from the Burning of Fossil Fuel's 24/7/365 days a year well,..

There are consequences.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
same thing here ground should be rock hard but its soft and mushy we had 4 inchest of snow last night and as of right now it has all but disapeared thats cause the ground is too warm and the early spring temps today makes for a rapid melt i bet my kid did not even get to play in the snow at lunch today because it already had melted by then not its just running water

ya its a good bet that we are going to see one of the driest summers and hottest on record this season for some reason

i was even out looking at trees on the property and there is some small buds starting to form the type ya get right around the first week of spring and today is 50f normally dont make it to that temp till mid march but mom has other plans i guess

all iam waiting on now is the robin to start pounching around on the lawn we dont see that till first week of april so we have to see if he shows up early as well


Second order positive feedback.

CO2 traps heat.

Heat melts ice faster.

Albedo feedback heats things up even faster.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
same thing here ground should be rock hard but its soft and mushy we had 4 inchest of snow last night and as of right now it has all but disapeared thats cause the ground is too warm and the early spring temps today makes for a rapid melt i bet my kid did not even get to play in the snow at lunch today because it already had melted by then not its just running water

ya its a good bet that we are going to see one of the driest summers and hottest on record this season for some reason

i was even out looking at trees on the property and there is some small buds starting to form the type ya get right around the first week of spring and today is 50f normally dont make it to that temp till mid march but mom has other plans i guess

all iam waiting on now is the robin to start pounching around on the lawn we dont see that till first week of april so we have to see if he shows up early as well
Here in Central Texas we are already seeing some signs of an early Spring Migration at the bird feeders. The skunks are also out and about and the mosquito hawks have started to appear.

So either we are skipping right past Winter and into Spring or we're going to get a crazy February ice storm that kills what the last big freeze and summer drought missed.

I'm getting a little crazy with all this weather and thinking about putting the garden in.
As cold as it's been up north, it's just the opposite down here in Alabama. We've only had three nights below freezing and we've had numerous days with highs in the 60's and 70's. My daffodils and mock orange bushes are blooming and, if this keeps up, I'm going to have to cut my grass! Of course, the downside has been we've already had two rounds of tornadoes with several deaths. Birmingham radar is going to be down on and off between now and February 13th to install dual polarization radar. I wish they would have picked a date in the fall to do this, since it looks like we have another bout of severe weather possible sometime this weekend. It's 73 now, and we are starting to get south winds - bad combination as we head into February, the "typical" beginning of our severe weather season.
Winds got this controlled burn at Kennedy Space Center stoked up.

Quoting Patrap:
Dumping Giga-ton's of Pollutants into the Atmosphere from the Burning of Fossil Fuel's 24/7/365 days a year well,..

There are consequences.


Well, BP in Texas City is about 9 hrs from a strike by union workers, so if that happens, they will shut every unit down, therefore cutting 24/7/365 down a smidge
For temperature departures for the next week, it looks like the 4th and 5th are the most normalized for highs.

The 6th appears to be the most normalized for lows, but is still very much skewed in favor of above normal temperatures everywhere. Overnight lows are projected far above normal for almost the entire lower 48 every day for the next 6 days.
Quoting Skyepony:
Winds got this controlled burn at Kennedy Space Center stoked up.



We need rain very bad driest January EVER in many places here in C FL. Melbourne a Trace was only recorded same in Daytona. Looks though February could be wet especially next week as some sort of Hybrid organizes in the Gulf.



6 scooster67 "Let me guess........this cold spell is a result of Global Warming."

I can guess weirder: (formerly)permafrost methane reacting with atmospheric ozone. Two extremely powerful (but short-lived) greenhouse gases being converted into water vapor and weaker greenhousing (but long-lived) CO2.
Water vapor condenses and falls, leaving the CO2 and OzoneDepletion.
OzoneDepletion allows more ground and atmospheric infrared(heat)radiation to escape into space... leading to extra cooling.

How likely is that particular scenario to be true? I'd rate it just plausible enough to be worth running a computer simulation on -- to satisfy my own curiousity -- if I had the funding or if I were in need of a dissertation topic in the atmospheric sciences.
there is alot of folk that are beginning to get wary of the weird weather i had a tentant of mine just this morning say to me that he is very concearned about the weather and whats happening and what is yet to happen my reply was we will just have to adapt there is nothing else we can do
Hopefully this is a low in the NW Gulf that spins up near TX, and rides up the coast, more typical scenario for winter here

What's this about Oil still leaking in the gulf been hearing more and more about this lately on the news.
Texas has a drought. China has a thousand square mile empty lake. Is there a connection?

Quoting StormTracker2K:


We need rain very bad driest January EVER in many places here in C FL. Melbourne a Trace was only recorded same in Daytona. Looks though February could be wet especially next week as some sort of Hybrid organizes in the Gulf.



i have my full tropical blog page ready for posting just in case the tropics decide to do something weird been watchin that depiction
Quoting RTSplayer:
For temperature departures for the next week, it looks like the 4th and 5th are the most normalized for highs.

The 6th appears to be the most normalized for lows, but is still very much skewed in favor of above normal temperatures everywhere. Overnight lows are projected far above normal for almost the entire lower 48 every day for the next 6 days.
Low temps anomalies for tonight across the continental U.S.:

Warm
Quoting StormTracker2K:


We need rain very bad driest January EVER in many places here in C FL. Melbourne a Trace was only recorded same in Daytona. Looks though February could be wet especially next week as some sort of Hybrid organizes in the Gulf.





Model seems to have backed off a bit on it's intensity, and moved it more to the NW since it first started picking up on it.

Lots of chaotic behavior still out that far, needs 3 more days.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
i have my full tropical blog page ready for posting just in case the tropics decide to do something weird been watchin that depiction


Wouldn't that be something tracking STS Alberto in the next week. It's possible and the water temps are in the mid to upper 70's.
Quoting RTSplayer:


I've been meaning to ask, do you actually play RTS games? I'm a fan of the Total War series.
Quoting RitaEvac:
Hopefully this is a low in the NW Gulf that spins up near TX, and rides up the coast, more typical scenario for winter here



Would be much appreciated. :)
you can see that low in the south central gulf show up at the end of the run

Why bemoan a Leak in the Gulf, if one exists, and many do, from Macondo's Well to natural Fissures, one would think the focus would be on the giga tonnes of Pollutants going Nonstop into the atmosphere 24/7.

Does it not matter?

No, it matters greatly and completely.

Soon all this will force a new age, as its Era is passed.

Also,if one uses Fossil fuel engines, be it a Plane, car, Ship, whatever...can one really begrudge the Fossil Fuel industry with a straight face..?

I dont, Im a realist.

Quoting Patrap:
Dumping Giga-ton's of Pollutants into the Atmosphere from the Burning of Fossil Fuel's 24/7/365 days a year well,..

There are consequences.


Yep, they call it REGIONAL record cold.

State-owned Bulgarian National Radio said a record low of -29 degrees Celsius (-20 degrees Fahrenheit) had been reached in the northern town of Knezha early Tuesday.

Link
Brownsville
NEXRAD Radar

Base Reflectivity 0.50° Elevation
Range 248 NMI

The Low, in its formative stage now, will eject E Ne across the GOM thru Thursday Morn..



NOLA disco,

A phasing of shortwave energy across the plains will push into the
Mississippi Valley Wednesday afternoon. This should consolidate
southern stream energy over the central Gulf Coast region
Wednesday morning...then move slowly east Wednesday afternoon.
Showers and thunderstorms should be fairly widespread Wednesday
morning...then shift east with better rain chances over the
Mississippi Gulf Coast and adjacent Gulf waters Wednesday
afternoon. Severe thunderstorms are not expected...however locally
heavy rainfall is possible as a stalled frontal boundary may be in
place. Shortwave trough will push east of the region Wednesday
night with a shortwave ridge aloft building in from the west. The
lingering frontal boundary will push south towards the coast or
coastal waters as a weak cold front. Any leftover rain to the east
will end Wednesday evening.
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin
TROPICAL CYCLONE IGGY, CATEGORY TWO (11U)
3:00 AM WST February 1 2012
=================================

At 2:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Iggy, Category Two (980 hPa) located at 25.2S 107.5E or 770 km west southwest of Exmouth and 620 km west of Carnarvon has 10 minute sustained winds of 50 knots with gusts of 70 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south southwest at 14 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T4.0/4.0/D1.0/24 HRS

Storm Force Winds
=================
30 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
--------------------
100 NM from the center in northeastern quadrant
70 NM from the center in northwestern quadrant
120 NM from the center in southeastern quadrant
90 NM from the center in southwestern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
======================

12 HRS: 27.2S 107.9E - 40 knots (CAT 1)
24 HRS: 28.6S 109.1E - 35 knots (CAT 1)
48 HRS: 29.0S 112.3E - 30 knots (TROPICAL LOW)
72 HRS: 28.5S 117.3E - 20 knots (TROPICAL LOW)

Additional Information
=======================

TC Iggy was located by microwave and IR imagery which show a well defined eye, albeit with relatively warm cloud tops. Iggy appears to have re-intensified to category 2 intensity [SATCON is 71 knots [1min mean] and Dvorak IR eye DT estimates at 4.5 with CI at 4.0, the intensity at 50 knots. This is based on 1359 ASCAT pass showing a region of 50 knots on eastern and southern flank which may be enhanced by the 12 knot southly motion. Diurnal development is currently at a peak.

Although Iggy is now in a climatologically unfavorable region for TCs, sea surface temperatur are 25-26C [warmer than normal], the shear remains low and there is favorable outflow aloft. The low shear is also protecting the core of the cyclone from the dry air at the system's periphery. Hence weakening is only expected after the diurnally favored period overnight. During Wednesday the convection should struggle as Iggy begins to move over waters less than 24C.

Marginal gales may extend beyond 24h, as suggested by various numerical weather prediction models, albeit limited to sectors assisted initially by synoptic southeasterlies south of the system and then on the northern side as the system takes a more eastwards track. Models show good agreement on the track with the majority taking the remnant system towards the west coast on Thursday. There are no indications that gales could be maintained through to landfall.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center on TC IGGY will be issued at 1:30 AM UTC..
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #9
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 07F
6:00 AM FST February 1 2012
======================================

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression 07F (997 hPa) located at 17.8S 171.7E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The depression is reported as moving southeast at 20 knots. Position poor based on multisatellite infrared imagery with animation and peripheral surface observation.

Organization has improved slightly in the past 12 hours. Convection remains persistent in the last 24 hours. Cloud tops cooling in the last 6 hours. System lies south of 250 hpa ridge axis, downstream of an upper trough and just north of the 250 hpa jet. Depression lies in a region of low shear and is being steered to the southeast by a deep layer mean northwesterly wind flow. Sea surface temperature is around 29-30C

Dvorak analysis based on 0.45 wrap yields. Final Dvorak based on DT, MET and PT agrees.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5/2.5/D0.5/24 hrs

Global models are intensifying the system and moving it southeastwards then southwest.

Potential for this system to develop into a tropical cyclone in the next 12 to 24 hours is moderate to high.

The next tropical cyclone advisory from Fiji Meteorological Services will be issued at 2:30 AM UTC.
LOL..now there's a Non Biased Handle interjecting his thoughts.

Always welcomed.

But your following the Dog , not the owner.

; )
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
there is alot of folk that are beginning to get wary of the weird weather i had a tentant of mine just this morning say to me that he is very concearned about the weather and whats happening and what is yet to happen my reply was we will just have to adapt there is nothing else we can do


As our ancestors did, or not as in Neanderthals.



It was one rough ride 35,000 years ago when they left the landscape.
If a hurricane hits and no one's around to see it,

did it really exist?
Quoting CybrTeddy:
If a hurricane hits and no one's around to see it,

did it really exist?

Yes.
Evening All. Interesting little system showing up in the superior long range. 240hr image GFS SLP/6hr Precip.

Quoting ProgressivePulse:
Evening All. Interesting little system showing up in the superior long range. 240hr image GFS SLP/6hr Precip.



ugh
Quoting yqt1001:


I've been meaning to ask, do you actually play RTS games? I'm a fan of the Total War series.


Starcraft 2 and Warcraft 3 Veteran.

Getting too old to keep my Actions Per Minute up though, I'm actually way below average in that, but play above my APM, if you know what I mean.

I am top of platinum league in Starcraft 2 1v1 game.

I have beaten Master level players (same league as the pros) in 1v1 and 2v2 on a few occasions, but admittedly took a bit of luck.

In protoss vs protoss I'm about 1 or 2 leagues better than any of my other matchups.

Had this argument one time with my ally from a Random Team game about who was the better Protoss, well he was even ranked above me, and was making fun of my play, because I never Fast Expand.

I was like, "I bet I'll beat you 1vs1."

So he's like, "Pick map."

So, a few minutes later I beat him pretty badly. I had even told him the build order I was going to be using, because that's just how good it is, it's kinda broken really. So he types, "You are the better protoss," and leaves.

Some of the pros use a build similar to mine now.

I'm a lot better at the strategy and tactics aspects of it, rather than the multi-tasking and micro-management.

To be honest, I haven't played it consistently in a while. I've been playing Starcraft since it first came out, so after 14 years I get a lot of wins just on experience and like, "Yeah right, like that's really going to work," kind of thing.


Unfortunately, if I get into a high multi-tasking game I'm screwed, so I tend to use fast tech builds or rush/counter-rush builds, instead of an expansion strategy. I don't want the game to get big. I like control through a well balanced tempo attack, or harrassment tactics.

I also played Total War but kinda didn't like it.

I've played Age of Empires series, played number 3 online and stomped people too easily, so gave that one up.

Used to play Lords of Magic vs the computer, and of course C&C, but the C&C series always bothered me because there's very little macro and no acceleration of the game, hence no skill gap.
Quoting CybrTeddy:
If a hurricane hits and no one's around to see it,

did it really exist?


If there is no empirical evidence ... then I'd assume not.
Quoting presslord:


ugh



Didn't mean to interrupt this blister fast pace of GW talk. Nice to see you too.
The below video shows by example, How Lucky we are to have Dr. Masters site, his entries and his Views in a Public Forum.

Sadly, most Universities dont allow such activity, as wunderground is a Privately owned Company.







Professor Ivor Van Heerden helped create the storm surge model that warned of New Orleans vulnerability to levee failure. His work and his efforts to publicize this science was responsible for the saving of many thousands of lives.

After the levee system failure - until the BP well disaster, the biggest engineering failure in US history - Van Heerden pointed out that the levees failed because of poor design, constructions and maintenance.

For this, he was threatened by LSU administrators who said they did not want to lose US Army Corps of Engineer funding.

He was in fact fired without stated reason or cause and LSU continues to get grants from the US Army Corps of Engineers which continues to act without meaningful oversight putting thousands of lives and billions of dollars of property at risk.
Quoting Patrap:
Vet?

Does the VA give you Health benefits for your Game service?


Hahaha.

Just means it's been a while.

Like when you select difficulty on the campaign, it's like this:

Casual: You have no experience with RTS games.

Normal: You have some experience with RTS.

Hard: You are a starcraft Veteran.

Brutal: Only select Brutal if you are an expert at Starcraft.

I can beat Brutal. Beat all but 3 of the missions on the first try each.

Hard is so easy it's boring.

I found out most people cannot beat 1 hard/difficult computer.

I can beat 2 Insane computers allied against me.

Insane is 2 difficulties higher than Hard/difficult.

Understand?

"Veteran" just means you've played Starcraft for several years.


Didn't mean to get two posts like this, but he asked, and then you askes.
I was talking about the other day how I got lucky on April 16, 2011, and this is just how lucky I was.

Quoting ProgressivePulse:



Didn't mean to interrupt this blister fast pace of GW talk. Nice to see you too.



'ugh' was in reference to the potential weather...not the post itself
Pine Island Glacier

In mid-October 2011, NASA scientists working in Antarctica discovered a massive crack across the Pine Island Glacier, a major ice stream that drains the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. Extending for 19 miles (30 kilometers), the crack was 260 feet (80 meters) wide and 195 feet (60 meters) deep. Eventually, the crack will extend all the way across the glacier, and calve a giant iceberg that will cover about 350 square miles (900 square kilometers).

This image from the Advanced Spaceborne Thermal Emission and Reflection Radiometer (ASTER) instrument on NAS's Terra spacecraft was acquired Nov. 13, 2011, and covers an area of 27 by 32 miles (44 by 52 kilometers), and is located near 74.9 degrees south latitude, 101.1 degrees west longitude.

Image Credit: NASA/GSFC/METI/ERSDAC/JAROS, and U.S./Japan ASTER Science Team




Quoting Patrap:
Why bemoan a Leak in the Gulf, if one exists, and many do, from Macondo's Well to natural Fissures, one would think the focus would be on the giga tonnes of Pollutants going Nonstop into the atmosphere 24/7.

Does it not matter?

No, it matters greatly and completely.

Soon all this will force a new age, as its Era is passed.

Also,if one uses Fossil fuel engines, be it a Plane, car, Ship, whatever...can one really begrudge the Fossil Fuel industry with a straight face..?

I dont, Im a realist.



Believe it or not, some people have no choice but drive gasoline powered vehicles to work to support their families. But I suppose that some folks get their support from other sources and have no need for a car.

I guess effort would be better spent providing solutions and alternatives rather than constantly complaining about things that people have no other choice in doing.
Quoting Patrap:
Pine Island Glacier

In mid-October 2011, NASA scientists working in Antarctica discovered a massive crack across the Pine Island Glacier, a major ice stream that drains the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. Extending for 19 miles (30 kilometers), the crack was 260 feet (80 meters) wide and 195 feet (60 meters) deep. Eventually, the crack will extend all the way across the glacier, and calve a giant iceberg that will cover about 350 square miles (900 square kilometers).

This image from the Advanced Spaceborne Thermal Emission and Reflection Radiometer (ASTER) instrument on NAS's Terra spacecraft was acquired Nov. 13, 2011, and covers an area of 27 by 32 miles (44 by 52 kilometers), and is located near 74.9 degrees south latitude, 101.1 degrees west longitude.

Image Credit: NASA/GSFC/METI/ERSDAC/JAROS, and U.S./Japan ASTER Science Team






Pat, link please if possible. I would like to know if there is a projection on when "she drops".

I see there has been a background of noise complaining about the content of the discussion over the last few days. I think it has been interesting.

Weather is what you talk about when you are not willing to talk about meaningful things. Weather comes and goes.

Some of the other topics (even the *&^%%^#$&^ religion) have been good.
Quoting blakels:


Believe it or not, some people have no choice but drive gasoline powered vehicles to work to support their families. But I suppose that some folks get their support from other sources and have no need for a car.

I guess effort would be better spent providing solutions and alternatives rather than constantly complaining about things that people have no other choice in doing.


He.

What's more, even when electrics become widespread and more available, a rather large portion of the population simply won't be able to afford to buy them, since they already buy used vehicles now, and so the electrics are supposed to pay for themselves over a longer time period.

So the people who buy electrics are making an investment, and are unlikely to sell them to used car dealers, which means that like everything else, the poor people will not be able to participate in purchasing electric vehicles anyway.

Unless something truly revolutionary happens, they'll still be driving gasoline clunkers for decades...with worn out, leaking parts that make even more pollution.
Its on the NASA Home Page.

NASA Image Gallery
Quoting RTSplayer:


He.

What's more, even when electrics become widespread and more available, a rather large portion of the population simply won't be able to afford to buy them, since they already buy used vehicles now, and so the electrics are supposed to pay for themselves over a longer time period.

So the people who buy electrics are making an investment, and are unlikely to sell them to used car dealers, which means that like everything else, the poor people will not be able to partipate in purchasing electric vehicles anyway.

Unless something truly revolutionary happens, they'll still be driving gasoline clunkers for decades...with worn out, leaking parts that make even more pollution.


Cash for Clunkers Man, think Cash for Clunkers............:)
Quoting Patrap:
Its on the NASA Home Page.

NASA Image Gallery


Thanks pat.

No guess on when she drops though.
96. blakels




Owning 2 Vehicles and having Built refineries and worked on Offshore Rigs, Im speaking of my reality,,

We all have to be mobile, but the jist of my post was that if one focuses on a Single thing, like a spill one should expound on the actual reality of our common situation.



Your coyness denotes a frame of reference that you cant hide, its as clear as your other 20 comments.

Woof! , comes to mind.
Quoting 1911maker:


Thanks pat.

No guess on when she drops though.



Spring maybe, but Im no Frozen Tundra type atall.

: )
Quoting Patrap:



Spring maybe, but Im no Frozen Tundra type atall.

: )


Tundra when it is in full bloom is quite pretty. You should strive to visit some before it all goes away.
Quoting 1911maker:


Cash for Clunkers Man, think Cash for Clunkers............:)


Unfortunately, even modest improvements in the efficiency of ICE engines is insignificant relative to the amount of pollution.

A ten percent increase in efficiency would bring an auto from 30% to 33% under ideal circumstances, and even if they got to the double Carnot limit of 44%, your car is still 0% efficient when it's stopped at a light or stop sign or in traffic.

So at the double carnot limit, you'd use a third less fuel than existing autos, but when in traffic you'd still use about the same amount anyway.

A third less fuel isn't good enough anyway.

At present world population growth curve, we'll hit 9 billion some time between 20 and 30 years from now, even if this generation of young people grows a brain and stops reproducing like rabbits in the east and middle-east.

So demand for energy world wide is probably going up by at least 30% over the next 20 years, not even making a standards of living adjustment for third world or developing nations who are playing catch-up.

So for example, cutting CO2 emissions by 8.5% is woefully inadequate. Given our infrastructure, we'd need to not only replace 8.5% of the Carbon-based energy, but also find another 30% worth on TOP of that during the next 20 years from alternative sources. This still would only reduce the rate of net CO2 production by about 0.2PPM/Year. The keeling Curve would still be going up almost as fast as it does now.


When they sit around contingency planning, everyone is always like, "What if things continue exactly as they always have?"


We can replace 10% of ICE autos per decade with electrics, and the world population growth and "living standards" improvements will just replace them right back and even more, somewhere in some demographic and country.

No joke.
Link

I know, I know... a WUWT link. Take a look at what Burt Rutan has to say about global warming. He hits the nail directly on the head.
Quoting 1911maker:


Tundra when it is in full bloom is quite pretty. You should strive to visit some before it all goes away.


I have, when Grothar and myself served in NATO in TEAMWORK 84 in Tromso, Norway.

Back when the World was younger and we knew our Enemy well.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I was talking about the other day how I got lucky on April 16, 2011, and this is just how lucky I was.



See all the red in SE Virginia, I live there :p was not as lucky.
If you want a clean planet, get rid of all of the technology, including the computer your typing on, vehicles and live in the stone age. Everything is made of plastic, metal, rubber, and all comes from refining, and chemical plants
..somewhere in Houston a catcracker is not being monitored by the Human Mind.


And we are one day......with contact lenses we will wear. It will have nano wireless fiber embedded in the lenses to pick up hubs nearby (like cell towers) but basically wifi. The internet will be in front of us in our own eyes, need directions, you can pull it up in your head and see where to go. This is what Pat is talking about, we will change into a different form.

We will be a main frame server all at once! a super connection of mankind like never before!

Wanna know who that person is in front of you, POW! stare at em and their identity is spelled out next to them hovering in mid air, only when the lenses are worn
We will be in buildings without ever being in buildings, we will create a virtual world



From Antarctica to Bangladesh: The Story of Rising Seas

After crossing the legendary Drake Passage, we came in sight of the Antarctic continent. It is a majestic, otherworldly place. The Antarctic Peninsula, which juts northward toward South America, is lined with ice-covered mountains and surrounded by abundant wildlife in the sea. But even on this continent that looks and feels pristine, a troubling process is underway because of global warming.

The ice on land is melting at a faster rate and large ice sheets are moving toward the ocean more rapidly. As a result, sea levels are rising worldwide. Most of the world's ice is contained in Antarctica -- more than 90 percent. The West Antarctic Ice Sheet, which lies south of the Peninsula, contains enough water to raise sea levels worldwide by more than 20 feet. Part of the ice sheet, the Pine Island Glacier ice shelf, is among the many in Antarctica that are shrinking at an accelerating rate. This has direct consequences for low-lying coastal and island communities all over the world -- and for their inland neighbors.

In analyzing the relationship between melting ice and sea level rise, it is important to distinguish between two kinds of ice: the ice on land and the ice floating on top of the sea. When floating ice melts, sea level is not affected, because its weight has already pushed the sea level upward. But the melting of glaciers and ice sheets resting on land does increase sea level rise. So far, the melting of small mountain glaciers and portions of ice sheets in Antarctica and Greenland has been the main contributor to sea level rise from the loss of ice. (As the oceans warm up, their volume naturally expands, and this too has been a contributor to a small portion of the sea level rise that has occurred in the age of global warming).

Scientists aren't yet sure precisely how much sea levels will rise over the next century. What we do know is that sea level rise is occurring already, with real consequences for human beings who live near the coasts. In the world's largest port cities, 40 million people are now already at risk of severe coastal flooding. That number could well triple within the next half-century or so.

Even wealthier countries are not immune to the impacts. In the United States, for example, particularly vulnerable areas are: Miami Beach, the Chesapeake region, coastal Louisiana, and coastal Texas. In some of these areas, the land is sinking even as the oceans rise. This will have implications that extend right up to the steps of our nation's Capitol. A recent study found that sea level rise of only a tenth of a meter would lead to $2 billion in property damage and affect almost 68,000 people in Washington, D.C. In addition, the enhanced threat of storm surges was illustrated last year when tropical storm Irene led to warnings that the New York City subway system and tunnels into the city could be flooded.

But the most vulnerable regions lie in developing countries, where populations are still rising fast and there is little money to shore up infrastructure. The cities most threatened by sea level rise are places like Calcutta and Mumbai in India; Guangzhou, China; and Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. And of course, there are more than a few low-lying island nations -- like the Maldives -- that are already in imminent danger.

Then there is Bangladesh. A one-meter sea level rise -- which could happen as soon as 2050 according to some Antarctic specialists -- could result in between 22 and 35 million people in Bangladesh relocating from the areas in which they now live and work. Two-thirds of this nation is less than five meters above sea level. For the nation's 142 million people packed into a small space, climate change poses a nearly unimaginable challenge. The threat of sea level rise is not simply flooding, but saltwater intrusion that hurts the production of rice, the country's staple crop. Increased damage to rice farmers could soon put 20 million farmers out of work and force them into crowded cities.

Here in Antarctica, it's easy to feel isolated from the rest of the world. But as I look at this exquisite continent buried deep under the ice, it's troubling to think about what will happen as this ice melts ever more rapidly.

Cross-posted at the Climate Reality Blog.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Huh? I was being nice; I am actually curious as to just what reason different members have had to employ the forum's "Modify Comment" function. I myself use it, for instance, when I find a glaring typo after posting, or when I've messed up the formatting somehow, or when I spot a factual error (or have one pointed out to me). That's all. I'm the nicest person you'd ever want to meet. I swear. ;-)
LOLOLOL thats a joke.....
Quoting RitaEvac:
And we are one day......with contact lenses we will wear. It will have nano wireless fiber embedded in the lenses to pick up hubs nearby (like cell towers) but basically wifi. The internet will be in front of us in our own eyes, need directions, you can pull it up in your head and see where to go. This is what Pat is talking about, we will change into a different form.

We will be a main frame server all at once! a super connection of mankind like never before!

Wanna know who that person is in front of you, POW! stare at em and their identity is spelled out next to them hovering in mid air, only when the lenses are worn


I am afraid you will not like what you find when you have that.

Oh, given the pace of improvements in technology, you are probably right. I think it's possible sooner than later.

Hackers will hack your brain.

People will share private information about you without your consent.

Right now it's only about what you type, or what videos you put online, etc, which people already use and mis-use without your consent, indefinitely and forever as long as you live.

THEN they will read your mind and steal your thoughts, both your private memories and your own innovations, and take them for their own.

Already, many employers force employees to sign waivers giving rights to any intellectual property they invent while under employment to the company. In the future, the company may not even do that. They will simply steal your ideas right out of your head with a mind scan or an implant.

It's not a mind game. It's not a joke or science fiction.

People are working on legitimate sciences of brain-computer barriers now.

X-Ray vision and Telepathy

Your employer already can tell you what you can and can't put in your body and when. In the future, some court may rule that the company can put a chip in you and monitor your vitals or your location via GPS, etc.


Big Brother?

Heck, everyone is already Big Brother.
Quoting ProgressivePulse:
Evening All. Interesting little system showing up in the superior long range. 240hr image GFS SLP/6hr Precip.



Very interesting, actually appears sub-tropical in nature for a brief time. GFS has been persistent. Defiantly at least a Nor'easter in the making if it does happen.
10 Day GFS precip map. Very impressive if this verifies for FL. From drought to floods in a matter of a week.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I was talking about the other day how I got lucky on April 16, 2011, and this is just how lucky I was.



But in August 2011.. not so lucky.
Hey Cyberteddy, it's showing on every run on the GFS now.


Quoting CybrTeddy:


But in August 2011.. not so lucky.

Yeah, we weren't so lucky then :P
Quoting RTSplayer:


I am afraid you will not like what you find when you have that.

Oh, given the pace of improvements in technology, you are probably right. I think it's possible sooner than later.

Hackers will hack your brain.

People will share private information about you without your consent.

Right now it's only about what you type, or what videos you put online, etc, which people already use and mis-use without your consent, indefinitely and forever as long as you live.

THEN they will read your mind and steal your thoughts, both your private memories and your own innovations, and take them for their own.

Already, many employers force employees to sign waivers giving rights to any intellectual property they invent while under employment to the company. In the future, the company may not even do that. They will simply steal your ideas right out of your head with a mind scan or an implant.

It's not a mind game. It's not a joke or science fiction.

People are working on legitimate sciences of brain-computer barriers now.

X-Ray vision and Telepathy

Your employer already can tell you what you can and can't put in your body and when. In the future, some court may rule that the company can put a chip in you and monitor your vitals or your location via GPS, etc.


Big Brother?

Heck, everyone is already Big Brother.


I'll be unplugged from the grid, while others live in the Matrix
Looks like we could be dealing with a Severe Weather outbreak as we head into Thursday, and then a Tornado outbreak as we head into Friday. More details as time progress.

Helicity values are insane.





Quoting CycloneUK:
I find it ironic that high temperatures in the US have prompted a resurgence in global warming chatter, precisely when temperatures globally have been cold.

The last couple of days may have been triggered by an editorial in the Wall Street Journal. It would be naive to think that everyone posting on here is just here for the blog.
It would be interesting to sit here in February and track a STS or depression.If that happens I wonder how this blog will react....
Quoting JupiterKen:
Link

I know, I know... a WUWT link. Take a look at what Burt Rutan has to say about global warming. He hits the nail directly on the head.


Current rates of warming are very close to even the earliest estimates from the late 1980s. Absolute amounts of CO2 as compared to other gases are irrelevant, it's the physical properties that matter and these have been measured and understood for over a century.

He hits nothing. He just shows that he is (hopefully) a better engineer than climate scientist.

Quoting scooster67:
Let me guess........this cold spell is a result of Global Warming.


Depends. If a reduction in Arctic sea ice were to slow the progression of Rossby waves across the northern hemisphere, it would be a possible mechanism for slowing down weather patterns, and thus making both warm spells and cold spells last longer.

But individual cold spells, heat waves, droughts, and floods are driven predominantly by weather/chaos. It's only relative magnitudes and frequencies that can be linked to climate change.
Quoting wxmod:
Eastern China today, modifying the world's weather again, for the 365th time since last Jan. 31.

Are those aerosols? Don't they increase albedo? I'd be less concerned about their effect on the weather than what they do to lungs and maybe the acidity of rain.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Looks like we could be dealing with a Severe Weather outbreak as we head into Thursday, and then a Tornado outbreak as we head into Friday. More details as time progress.

Helicity values are insane.


Nothing quite like a super early season surprise tornado outbreak to get everyone's mindset out of winter.
Quoting ScottLincoln:


Nothing quite like a super early season surprise tornado outbreak to get everyone's mindset out of winter.

Believe it or not, this will be our fourth tornado outbreak of the 2012 season if it unfolds.

1.) January 17 (11 tornadoes)
2.) January 22-23 (23 tornadoes)
3.) January 25-27 (26 tornadoes)
Quoting washingtonian115:
It would be interesting to sit here in February and track a STS or depression.If that happens I wonder how this blog will react....


The average person will make the false inference that there is a connection between freak early season incidents like that one, and seasonal activity as a whole.

"OMG WE'RE GONNA BE IN FOR ONE HELL OF A SEASON!"
Quoting CybrTeddy:


But in August 2011.. not so lucky.


It's much harder to get lucky with a hurricane.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Believe it or not, this will be our fourth tornado outbreak of the 2012 season if it unfolds.

1.) January 17 (11 tornadoes)
2.) January 22-23 (23 tornadoes)
3.) January 25-27 (26 tornadoes)


Maybe just a bit farther north than we'd expect this early in the year...
Quoting KoritheMan:


The average person will make the false inference that there is a connection between freak early season incidents like that one, and seasonal activity as a whole.

"OMG WE'RE GONNA BE IN FOR ONE HELL OF A SEASON!"
The media if they find out will hype the situation.Once they get a hold of the story.."Shudders".I can imagine it now they'll have Matt lawyer on msnbc in the morning saying doc's favorite word "unprecidented".
Quoting presslord:



'ugh' was in reference to the potential weather...not the post itself


My apologies Press, should've known.
Quoting JupiterKen:
Link

I know, I know... a WUWT link. Take a look at what Burt Rutan has to say about global warming. He hits the nail directly on the head.
I'd say that not only did Rutan not hit the nail on the head, but he missed the whole nail. In fact, he missed the entire board.

Rutan demonstrates an alarming lack of knowledge about CO2 for someone who purports to be taken as a climate expert. He falls back on the old canard about CO2 being a trace gas and therefore ineffective as a change agent, as though thousands of actual climate scientists haven't considered every possible cause for the observed warming. He cherrypicks that favorite denialist year, 1998, and tries to claim that the planet has "cooled" since then--which is, as anyone even slightly familiar with the data will tell you, completely and verifiably not true. Rutan even contends that "none of the predictions of IPCC since their first report in 1991 have been supported by measured data", which tells us that either he's not in touch at all with the data, or he's lying.

Lastly, Rutan makes the frequent mistake of concluding that extra CO2 will mean faster plant growth and thus greater crop yields and yay the whole planet will eat better. What that piece of brilliant logic misses, however, is that niggling little thing about sea level rise, and the tens of trillions of dollars it will cost to relocate a billion people and the infrastructure required to house, feed, and employ them. Among other negatives.

Dude shoulda stuck with airplane design, if you ask me...
Quoting StormTracker2K:
10 Day GFS precip map. Very impressive if this verifies for FL. From drought to floods in a matter of a week.



Not much love depicted for SEFL in that run. Assuming it does happen, which is never a good thing to do, it would be nice to get a bit more down south. A nice little top off as we head into the dog days of the dry season, serve it up.
Quoting RTSplayer:
"Everyone born a Genius, but crushed by society." Very Interesting.


Interesting indeed. Thanks for sharing!
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Very interesting, actually appears sub-tropical in nature for a brief time. GFS has been persistent. Defiantly at least a Nor'easter in the making if it does happen.


Not your typical La Nina Winter feature for sure.
Scared of Science
Posted: 01/31/2012 2:50 pm


When I saw last Friday's Wall Street Journal editorial, "No Need to Panic About Global Warming," my first instinct was to burst out laughing. The Journal found a whopping 16 "concerned scientists" who declared that fears about climate change were exaggerated, and that we can just keep on burning as many fossil fuels as we darn well please.

The Journal has been pushing climate change "skepticism" for decades, so the editorial was nothing new. What made the piece funny was how lazy the arguments for inaction were.

As Peter Frumhoff of the real Union of Concerned Scientists notes,

[T]he op-ed repeated a number of deeply misleading claims about climate science. To take just one example, the authors claim there has been a "lack of warming" for 10 years. Here's what we know: 2011 was the 35th year in a row in which global temperatures were above the historical average and 2010 and 2005 were the warmest years on record. Over the past decade, record high temperatures outpaced record lows by more than two to one across the continental United States, a marked increase from previous decades.

Those who believe that global warming is a legitimate problem, and even those who are unsure about the seriousness of the problem but who recognize that the phenomenon of global warming is not a hoax, have long since recognized the sort of game the Journal always plays on this issue: just find a couple of "concerned scientists" (usually ones affiliated with libertarian think tanks funded by the fossil fuel industry) who claim that the science isn't settled, and voilà, you can successfully declare that there's no real need to take action to reduce carbon emissions.

Peter Gleick of Forbes points to another example of the Journal's con game:

But the most amazing and telling evidence of the bias of the Wall Street Journal in this field is the fact that 255 members of the United States National Academy of Sciences wrote a comparable (but scientifically accurate) essay on the realities of climate change and on the need for improved and serious public debate around the issue, offered it to the Wall Street Journal, and were turned down. The National Academy of Sciences is the nation's pre-eminent independent scientific organizations. Its members are among the most respected in the world in their fields. Yet the Journal wouldn't publish this letter, from more than 15 times as many top scientists. Instead they chose to publish an error-filled and misleading piece on climate because some so-called experts aligned with their bias signed it. This may be good politics for them, but it is bad science and it is bad for the nation.

Science magazine -- perhaps the nation's most important journal on scientific issues -- published the letter from the NAS members after the Journal turned it down.


Why does the Journal insist on pushing the idea that science isn't science? Ed Kilgore's theory is compelling:

[Y]ou'd think in all this tough-minded truth-telling about those with a financial stake in the climate change debate the Journal might have noted in passing that the most powerful economic interests on the planet have an interest in doing nothing about it.

But then that's the Journal's core constituency, and I suppose it is predictable its editors remain willing to threaten the credibility of its usually solid news-gathering operation to tell those who would melt the ice caps without a moment's hesitation exactly what they want to hear.

However, the Journal has another constituency: those who have adopted the view that global warming is a politically correct issue, something that is promoted by the left to advance big-government goals. I used to be a member of this constituency, until I started studying the facts.

My declaration that I no longer believed global warming was some sort of Communist plot led to the end of numerous friendships; I don't regret losing those "friends," as I now realize that the only thing I had in common with those "friends" was the fact that we had mutual political hatreds. Every "friend" who objected to my change of heart on climate saw the global warming debate as an example of political correctness -- and they all saw themselves as avowed enemies of political correctness.

The problem, of course, is that science is not political correctness.

My "friends" could not view global warming through a scientific perspective, only through a political perspective. Thus, they could not understand why I no longer shared their view that Al Gore and Carol Browner cooked up global warming as a backdoor way to implement Keynesian economic policies.

I laughed at the Journal editorial because I envisioned my former friends lapping up the piece without criticism or skepticism. I laughed because the piece was clearly motivated by the Journal's fear -- fear that the Republican Party's self-destruction will lead to a second term for President Obama, the retention of the Senate by the Democrats, the loss of the GOP majority in the House, and, perhaps, a serious effort toward putting a price on carbon and putting America on the path to cleaner energy.

I laughed because the folks who deny scientific facts deserve to be laughed at, and scorned.


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Funso's lifetime

Very impressive storm.
I have several friends that track storms.Yes they agreed that Don's demise was one of the most bruatal ever seen from a T.C.However they had to leave dissapointed from texas with almost no footage.
Quoting washingtonian115:
I have several friends that track storms.Yes they agreed that Don's demise was one of the most bruatal ever seen from a T.C.However they had to leave dissapointed from texas with almost no footage.
LOL, yeah that was crazy. Isidore had me fascinated, she went from a Cat 4 that was predicted to make landfall on the Gulf Coast to a tropical storm that took an unexpected turn towards the South into the Yucatan and dumped tremendous amounts of rainfall there.
Quoting GTcooliebai:
LOL, yeah that was crazy. Isidore had me fascinated, she went from a Cat 4 that was predicted to make landfall on the Gulf Coast to a tropical storm that took an unexpected turn towards the South into the Yucatan and dumped tremendous amounts of rainfall there.
Well it was a good thing that Isadore had lost it's power before it went to the Gulf.This just goes to show that even with technology humans will never fully understand how a T.C works.And Isadore is suppose to be a guy...
Quoting RTSplayer:
"Everyone born a Genius, but crushed by society." Very Interesting.


"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."
-Albert Einstein

P.S great clip Michio Kaku rocks!
Quoting washingtonian115:
It would be interesting to sit here in February and track a STS or depression.If that happens I wonder how this blog will react....




''..stock up on popcorn, Fresca, and ibuprofen.. the end is near,..'
148. flsky
NASA: "Global Warming Caused Mostly by Humans"

Link
Quoting CybrTeddy:




''..stock up on popcorn, Fresca, and ibuprofen.. the end is near,..'
LOLOL.
..check, check, check..

Oh, and twix, we're gonna need a case o Twix bar's too.


and Pauli get's a sno cone machine.







Quoting flsky:
NASA: "Global Warming Caused Mostly by Humans"

Link


FOLLOW: Green House on Twitter

"This provides unequivocal evidence that the sun is not the dominant driver of global warming," said James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who led the research released Monday.

On the Wall Street Journal's opinion page, 16 scientists recently said there's no need for drastic action to "decarbonize" the world's economy. "Perhaps the most inconvenient fact is the lack of global warming for well over 10 years now," they wrote without providing data.

Not so, according to U.S. government records. In December, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported that all 11 years of the 21st century so far (2001–2011) rank among the 13 warmest in the 132-year period of record.

The Hansen-led study, published in the December issue of Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, said the magnitude of the Earth's energy imbalance is fundamental to climate science. If the imbalance is positive and more energy enters the system than exits, the Earth warms. If the imbalance is negative, the planet cools.

The researchers concluded that the 0.58 watts per square meter imbalance implies that carbon dioxide levels need to be reduced to about 350 parts per million to restore the energy budget to equilibrium. They say the most recent measurements put CO2 levels at 392 parts per million and those concentrations are expected to keep rising.

Scientists have been refining calculations of the Earth's energy imbalance for years, but NASA researchers say their newest estimate is an improvement because they had access to better measurements of ocean temperature
Don't look Ethel!!! er, Presslord. ;-)
Been downright drizzly here today. The lakes are getting heavier rain. Always good to see that. May get more here later. Depending on which model verifies I guess.

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 452 PM CST TUE JAN 31 2012/

DISCUSSION...

LATEST WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY/UPPER AIR ANALYSIS SHOWED
NOISY SW FLOW ACROSS THE NW GULF COAST REGION DOWNSTREAM OF A MEAN
LOW AMPLITUDE WRN CONUS TROF.

AT THE SFC...STNG HIGH PRESSURE WAS CENTERED OFF THE COAST OF THE
CAROLINAS WITH AN AXIS STRETCHING WWD ALONG THE GULF COAST....WITH
A CDFNT OVER THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS EXTENDING FM NE KS TO THE
TX PANHANDLE.

LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS AN UPTICK IN CONVECTIVE COVERAGE ACROSS
EAST TEXAS...WHICH COINCIDES QUITE WELL WITH PROGGED EASTWARD
PROGRESSION OF 850-700MB THETAE RIDGE. WILL MAINTAIN SLIGHT
CHANCE/CHANCE POPS THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.

DECENT RAIN CHANCES CONTINUE TOMORROW AS SHORTWAVE ENERGY
CURRENTLY NEAR THE BAJA TRANSLATES THROUGH THE THE ARKLATEX...WITH
RELATIVE DRYING IN THE WAKE OF THIS FEATURE KNOCKING POPS DOWN TO
JUST A SLIGHT CHANCE ON THURSDAY.

FAIRLY GOOD CONSENSUS AMONG THE GLOBAL MODELS OF A HIGHLY
AMPLIFIED RIDGE FORMING OVER THE EPAC/WEST COAST...WITH A
DOWNSTREAM UPPER LOW DEVELOPING AND BECOMING CUT OFF...OR NEARLY
SO...OVER THE ROCKIES. THE RESULT AT THE SFC IS A LEE-SIDE LOW
THAT TRACKS EAST THRU THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...WITH A N-S ORIENTED
CDFNT PROGGED TO BE SOMEWHERE OVER EAST TEXAS FRIDAY NIGHT. GOOD
LIFT COUPLED WITH A NWD SURGE OF MOISTURE LED TO INCREASING POPS A
BIT FOR FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT. BEYOND THIS...THE EVOLUTION OF THE
UPPER LEVEL FEATURES...AND THUS THE SURFACE FEATURES...CONTINUES
TO BE A SOURCE OF DISAGREEMENT. FOR THIS FORECAST CYCLE...USED A
BLEND OF HPC/GFS/GEM TO ARRIVE AT A SOLUTION THAT SHOWS A WEAKER
FRONT CROSSING THE AREA ON SATURDAY THAN PREVIOUSLY FORECAST. IT
SHOULD BE NOTED...HOWEVER...THAT THE USUALLY RELIABLE ECMWF
DOESN/T GET THE FRONT EAST OF OUR AREA UNTIL MONDAY...DEPICTING A
LESS PROGRESSIVE SOLUTION WITH THE UPPER LOW THAN THE GFS OR GEM.
SHOULD THIS PAN OUT...A WARMER AND RAINIER SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH
MONDAY WOULD TRANSPIRE.

Quoting GTcooliebai:
LOL, yeah that was crazy. Isidore had me fascinated, she went from a Cat 4 that was predicted to make landfall on the Gulf Coast to a tropical storm that took an unexpected turn towards the South into the Yucatan and dumped tremendous amounts of rainfall there.
Isidore was used for men name not women name
Quoting allancalderini:
Isidore was used for men name not women name
One might think they would use Isidro as opposed to Isadore. I think they retired the name anyway.
That fire at KSC looked good size on radar. It was announced to people out there that it was a controlled burn. Then some roads were closed & the tour bus stopped going out to the VAB & all. I tipped one off about it that stepped outside & was wowed by closeness & size. Looks really close to alot of stuff like headquarters, some industrial & visitor complex.. All must be well, no mention on the news.
Quoting hydrus:
One might think they would use Isidro as opposed to Isadore. I think they retired the name anyway.


They did. Ike replaced it.
Quoting KoritheMan:


They did. Ike replaced it.
Good evening Kori..Boy those I names dont seem to hang around to long do they.
Quoting hydrus:
Good evening Kori..Boy those I names dont seem to hang around to long do they.


"I" storms in particular are notorious for being destructive. This is probably attributable to the fact that they appear most commonly during peak season.
Quoting KoritheMan:


"I" storms in particular are notorious for being destructive. This is probably attributable to the fact that they appear most commonly during peak season.


My favorite "I" storm was Isabel. That was the strongest tropical system I've been in so far.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


My favorite "I" storm was Isabel. That was the strongest tropical system I've been in so far.


If we're going by exciting storms, I choose Gustav. Nothing quite like standing out in 90 mph winds.
Quoting KoritheMan:


"I" storms in particular are notorious for being destructive. This is probably attributable to the fact that they appear most commonly during peak season.
My thoughts precisely..Her are our retired friends..As of Apr 10 2011

Usually, the six lists of names for tropical storms and hurricanes repeat every six years. However, if there is an unusually large or damaging hurricane, the name is retired by the World Meteorological Organization hurricane committee because using it again could be considered insensitive. The hurricane name is then retired not used for at least ten years. Here is a list of hurricane names that have been retired.

Retired Hurricane Names Alphabetically

Agnes (1972)
Alicia (1983)
Allen (1980)
Allison (2001)
Andrew (1992)
Anita (1977)
Audrey (1957)
Betsy (1965)
Beulah (1967)
Bob (1991)
Camille (1969)
Carla (1961)
Carmen (1974)
Carol (1954)
Celia (1970)
Cesar (1996)
Charley (2004)
Cleo (1964)
Connie (1955)
David (1979)
Dean (2007)
Dennis (2005)
Diana (1990)
Diane (1955)
Donna (1960)
Dora (1964)
Edna (1968)
Elena (1985)
Eloise (1975)
Fabian (2003)
Felix (2007)
Fifi (1974)
Flora (1963)
Floyd (1999)
Fran (1996)
Frances (2004)
Frederic (1979)
Georges (1998)
Gilbert (1988)
Gloria (1985)
Gustav (2008)
Hattie (1961)
Hazel (1954)
Hilda (1964)
Hortense (1996)
Hugo (1989)
Igor (2010)
Ike (2008)
Inez (1966)
Ione (1955)
Iris (2001)
Isabel (2003)
Isidore (2002)
Ivan (2004)
Janet (1955)
Jeanne (2004)
Joan (1988)
Juan (2003)
Katrina (2005)
Keith (2000)
Klaus (1990)
Lenny (1999)
Lili (2002)
Luis (1995)
Marilyn (1995)
Michelle (2001)
Mitch (1998)
Noel (2007)
Opal (1995)
Paloma (2008)
Rita (2005)
Roxanne (1995)
Stan (2005)
Tomas (2010)
Wilma (2005)

Retired Hurricane Names Chronologically

1954 - Carol
1954 - Hazel
1955 - Connie
1955 - Diane
1955 - Ione
1955 - Janet
1957 - Audrey
1960 - Donna
1961 - Carla
1961 - Hattie
1963 - Flora
1964 - Cleo
1964 - Dora
1964 - Hilda
1965 - Betsy
1966 - Inez
1967 - Beulah
1968 - Edna
1969 - Camille
1970 - Celia
1972 - Agnes
1974 - Carmen
1974 - Fifi
1975 - Eloise
1977 - Anita
1979 - David
1979 - Frederic
1980 - Allen
1983 - Alicia
1985 - Elena
1985 - Gloria
1988 - Gilbert
1988 - Joan
1989 - Hugo
1990 - Diana
1990 - Klaus
1991 - Bob
1992 - Andrew
1995 - Luis
1995 - Marilyn
1995 - Opal
1995 - Roxanne
1996 - Cesar
1996 - Fran
1996 - Hortense
1998 - Georges
1998 - Mitch
1999 - Floyd
1999 - Lenny
2000 - Keith
2001 - Allison
2001 - Iris
2001 - Michelle
2002 - Isidore
2002 - Lili
2003 - Fabian
2003 - Isabel
2003 - Juan
2004 - Charley
2004 - Frances
2004 - Ivan
2004 - Jeanne
2005 - Dennis
2005 - Katrina
2005 - Rita
2005 - Stan
2005 - Wilma
2007 - Dean
2007 - Felix
2007 - Noel
2008 - Gustav
2008 - Ike
2008 - Paloma
2010 - Igor
2010 - Tomas

The "C" names have it by one...Probably not for long tho.
Quoting hydrus:
My thoughts precisely..Her are our retired friends..As of Apr 10 2011

Usually, the six lists of names for tropical storms and hurricanes repeat every six years. However, if there is an unusually large or damaging hurricane, the name is retired by the World Meteorological Organization%u2019s hurricane committee because using it again could be considered insensitive. The hurricane name is then retired not used for at least ten years. Here is a list of hurricane names that have been retired.

Retired Hurricane Names Alphabetically

Agnes (1972)
Alicia (1983)
Allen (1980)
Allison (2001)
Andrew (1992)
Anita (1977)
Audrey (1957)
Betsy (1965)
Beulah (1967)
Bob (1991)
Camille (1969)
Carla (1961)
Carmen (1974)
Carol (1954)
Celia (1970)
Cesar (1996)
Charley (2004)
Cleo (1964)
Connie (1955)
David (1979)
Dean (2007)
Dennis (2005)
Diana (1990)
Diane (1955)
Donna (1960)
Dora (1964)
Edna (1968)
Elena (1985)
Eloise (1975)
Fabian (2003)
Felix (2007)
Fifi (1974)
Flora (1963)
Floyd (1999)
Fran (1996)
Frances (2004)
Frederic (1979)
Georges (1998)
Gilbert (1988)
Gloria (1985)
Gustav (2008)
Hattie (1961)
Hazel (1954)
Hilda (1964)
Hortense (1996)
Hugo (1989)
Igor (2010)
Ike (2008)
Inez (1966)
Ione (1955)
Iris (2001)
Isabel (2003)
Isidore (2002)
Ivan (2004)
Janet (1955)
Jeanne (2004)
Joan (1988)
Juan (2003)
Katrina (2005)
Keith (2000)
Klaus (1990)
Lenny (1999)
Lili (2002)
Luis (1995)
Marilyn (1995)
Michelle (2001)
Mitch (1998)
Noel (2007)
Opal (1995)
Paloma (2008)
Rita (2005)
Roxanne (1995)
Stan (2005)
Tomas (2010)
Wilma (2005)

Retired Hurricane Names Chronologically

1954 - Carol
1954 - Hazel
1955 - Connie
1955 - Diane
1955 - Ione
1955 - Janet
1957 - Audrey
1960 - Donna
1961 - Carla
1961 - Hattie
1963 - Flora
1964 - Cleo
1964 - Dora
1964 - Hilda
1965 - Betsy
1966 - Inez
1967 - Beulah
1968 - Edna
1969 - Camille
1970 - Celia
1972 - Agnes
1974 - Carmen
1974 - Fifi
1975 - Eloise
1977 - Anita
1979 - David
1979 - Frederic
1980 - Allen
1983 - Alicia
1985 - Elena
1985 - Gloria
1988 - Gilbert
1988 - Joan
1989 - Hugo
1990 - Diana
1990 - Klaus
1991 - Bob
1992 - Andrew
1995 - Luis
1995 - Marilyn
1995 - Opal
1995 - Roxanne
1996 - Cesar
1996 - Fran
1996 - Hortense
1998 - Georges
1998 - Mitch
1999 - Floyd
1999 - Lenny
2000 - Keith
2001 - Allison
2001 - Iris
2001 - Michelle
2002 - Isidore
2002 - Lili
2003 - Fabian
2003 - Isabel
2003 - Juan
2004 - Charley
2004 - Frances
2004 - Ivan
2004 - Jeanne
2005 - Dennis
2005 - Katrina
2005 - Rita
2005 - Stan
2005 - Wilma
2007 - Dean
2007 - Felix
2007 - Noel
2008 - Gustav
2008 - Ike
2008 - Paloma
2010 - Igor
2010 - Tomas



Don't forget Irene.
Quoting hydrus:
The "C" names have it by one...Probably not for long tho.


I wonder if Wilma will retain that unique spot of being the only "W" storm retired?
Quoting KoritheMan:


I wonder if Wilma will retain that unique spot of being the only "W" storm retired?
LMAO....I fricken hope so.!...Jesus...
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Don't forget Irene.
You are Right...So its a tie for first place...Dang
Quoting hydrus:
LMAO....I fricken hope so!...Jesus...


XD

Or better yet, how about a Greek storm? Part of me thinks Beta would've gotten that treatment if the WMO actually had a backup plan.
9pm on a jan. night holding at 50f

Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 PM EST Tuesday 31 January 2012
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 29.80 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 50.0°F
Dewpoint: 39.9°F
Humidity: 68 %
Wind: WSW 16 mph
Quoting KoritheMan:


XD

Or better yet, how about a Greek storm? Part of me thinks Beta would've gotten that treatment if the WMO actually had a backup plan.
I have posted it before, after tracking storms during the 1983 Hurricane Season. I said to myself back then, that if we ever made it to the R or S storm, it would be epic. 2005 was nothing short of unbelievable. Never dreamed that I would live to see not only the W name retired, but that it would become a cat-5 and be one of the deadliest hurricanes to hit the states. Incredible does not even cut it in my book...
170. wxmod
You folks sittin around waitin for hurricanes, what if Bill Gates gets his floating sea surface cooling pumps all over the world oceans; wouldn't that piss ya off.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id= can-tropical-cyclones-be-stoppedLink
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
9pm on a jan. night holding at 50f

Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 9:00 PM EST Tuesday 31 January 2012
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 29.80 inches
Tendency: falling
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 3

Temperature: 50.0°F
Dewpoint: 39.9°F
Humidity: 68 %
Wind: WSW 16 mph
And today is Jan-31....I think somebody stole Mother Natures stash and she is a lil aggravated.
“In my weather career spanning four decades, I’ve never seen a year quite like 2011,” Jack Hayes, director of NOAA’s National Weather Service, says in a recorded statement regarding the report. “Sure we have had years with extreme flooding, extreme winter snowstorms and even extreme tornado outbreaks. But I can’t remember a year like this, in which we experienced record-breaking extremes of early every conceivable type of weather,” he says. And if the beginning of 2012 is any indicator, looks like we are in for more of such weather extremes in the coming months."

Well...that can't be good.
Quoting wxmod:
You folks sittin around waitin for hurricanes, what if Bill Gates gets his floating sea surface cooling pumps all over the world oceans; wouldn't that piss ya off.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id= can-tropical-cyclones-be-stoppedLink
If he does that, the atmosphere will explode or boil. Hurricanes keep the heat balance man, and it they dont form, da pressure cooker might pop. :o
Quoting wxmod:
You folks sittin around waitin for hurricanes, what if Bill Gates gets his floating sea surface cooling pumps all over the world oceans; wouldn't that piss ya off.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id= can-tropical-cyclones-be-stoppedLink


Did somebody call cyclonebuster?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
“In my weather career spanning four decades, I’ve never seen a year quite like 2011,” Jack Hayes, director of NOAA’s National Weather Service, says in a recorded statement regarding the report. “Sure we have had years with extreme flooding, extreme winter snowstorms and even extreme tornado outbreaks. But I can’t remember a year like this, in which we experienced record-breaking extremes of early every conceivable type of weather,” he says. And if the beginning of 2012 is any indicator, looks like we are in for more of such weather extremes in the coming months."

Well...that can't be good.


In a warming world, this is inevitable.
Quoting KoritheMan:


In a warming world, this is inevitable.

I don't want to die yet! :(
177. wxmod
Quoting bappit:

Are those aerosols? Don't they increase albedo? I'd be less concerned about their effect on the weather than what they do to lungs and maybe the acidity of rain.


Dear bappit,
That photo shows just about every kind of toxic waste and aerosol available. It's acid, it's small particulates that go right into your bloodstream, and its chemical fog which forms around minute particles that are too light to rain. Drought is the order of the day. Then, on top of that, China has an office of weather modification on every street corner, and from there they proceed to screw up the whole world's weather.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I don't want to die yet! :(


If it's any consolation, we won't care because we won't be conscious.
Quoting KoritheMan:


If it's any consolation, we won't care because we won't be conscious.
To be honest I would not care anyway. Going out in a storm is they way I'd want to go.
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
To be honest I would not care anyway. Going out in a storm is they way I'd want to go.


Agreed. I told my dad "So they say the world ends this year. I hope I go out with a hurricane."
Quoting KoritheMan:


Agreed. I told my dad "So they say the world ends this year. I hope I go out with a hurricane."

Hurricane? No...I'd rather get it over with. Tornado all the way.
Quoting SPLbeater:


bleak bill gates is an idiot. he has too much money, and thats getting to his head.
Lol if hes and idiot than who can we call smart?
Quoting KoritheMan:


If it's any consolation, we won't care because we won't be conscious.
What happens when we run out of Greek letters.? Start using expletives.? Hurricane B******,, Tropical Storm B****.?...mabe.?...no.?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Hurricane? No...I'd rather get it over with. Tornado all the way.
How about a compromise, a hyper-cane.
Quoting SPLbeater:


bleak bill gates is an idiot. he has too much money, and thats getting to his head.

Bill Gates is the chairman of Microsoft.

By no stretch of the imagination is he an idiot.
Quoting hydrus:
What happens when we run out of Greek letters.? Start using expletives.? Hurricane Bastard,, Tropical Storm Bitch.?...mabe.?...no.?
Did 4chan and Reddit take over the NOAA?
188. wxmod
Quoting hydrus:
If he does that, the atmosphere will explode or boil. Hurricanes keep the heat balance man, and it they dont form, da pressure cooker might pop. :o


Better tell that to some rich guy!
Quoting hydrus:
What happens when we run out of Greek letters.? Start using expletives.? Hurricane B******,, Tropical Storm B****.?...mabe.?...no.?


lmfao
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Lol if hes and idiot than who can we call smart?
Goober from The Andy Griffith Show. Bevis...
Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin
TROPICAL CYCLONE IGGY, CATEGORY TWO (11U)
9:00 AM WST February 1 2012
=================================

At 8:00 AM WST, Tropical Cyclone Iggy, Category Two (979 hPa) located at 26.0S 107.6E or 620 km west southwest of Carnarvon and 760 km west northwest of Geraldton has 10 minute sustained winds of 50 knots with gusts of 70 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving south at 10 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.5/S/0.0/24 HRS

Storm Force Winds
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35 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
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100 NM from the center in northeastern quadrant
70 NM from the center in northwestern quadrant
100 NM from the center in southeastern quadrant
70 NM from the center in southwestern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
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12 HRS: 28.0S 108.2E - 40 knots (CAT 1)
24 HRS: 29.0S 110.2E - 35 knots (CAT 1)
48 HRS: 29.5S 114.6E - 30 knots (TROPICAL LOW)
72 HRS: 28.5S 120.2E - 20 knots (TROPICAL LOW)

Additional Information
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Subjective Dvorak DTs have been hovering between 3.0 and 3.5 for a considerable time now. For a period overnight the DTs clearly reached 3.5 and 50 kn winds were observed on the ASCAT pass at 14Z. Since that time there has been a slight decrease in the organization and degree of curvature. Although DTs of 3.5 can be obtained on some recent images most analyses produce DT3.0. ADT went back up to CI 4.1 overnight when it detected an eye scene and although raw DTs are down at 2.3-2.8 over the last 6 hours the CI is still coming down from the overnight peak and is at 3.8. AMSU intensity estimates at 19Z were around 65 knots 10-min mean.

Final intensity estimate is 50 knots 10-min mean.

Although Iggy is now in a climatologically unfavorable region for TCs, Sea surface temperatures are 25-26C [warmer than normal], the shear remains low and there is favorable outflow aloft. The low shear is also protecting the core of the cyclone from the dry air at the system's periphery. During Wednesday the convection should struggle as Iggy begins to move over waters less than 24C.

Models show good agreement on the track with the majority taking the remnant system towards the west coast on Thursday. There are no indications that gales could be maintained through to landfall.

The next tropical cyclone advice from Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Center on TC IGGY will be issued at 7:30 AM UTC..
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Hurricane? No...I'd rather get it over with. Tornado all the way.


Consider me a risk taker. Unless said risk involves drowning by storm surge.
Quoting hydrus:
What happens when we run out of Greek letters.? Start using expletives.? Hurricane Bastard,, Tropical Storm Bitch.?...mabe.?...no.?


...
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #10
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 07F
12:00 PM FST February 1 2012
======================================

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 07F (997 hPa) located at 18.3S 172.7E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The depression is reported as moving southeast at 15 knots. Position poor based on multisatellite visible/infrared imagery with animation and peripheral observation.

Organization has improved in the past 12 hours. Convection remains persistent in the last 24 hours. System lies south of 250 hpa ridge axis, downstream of an upper trough and just north of the 250 hpa jet. Depression lies in a region of low to moderate shear and is being steered to the southeast by a deep layer mean northwesterly wind flow. Sea surface temperature is around 27-28C

Dvorak analysis based on 0.40 wrap yields. Final Dvorak based on DT. MET and PT agrees.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5/2.5/D0.5/24hrs

Global models are intensifying the system and moving it southeastwards then southwest.

Potential for this system to develop into a tropical cyclone in the next 12 to 24 hours is moderate to high.

The next tropical cyclone advisory from Fiji Meteorological Services will be issued at 8:30 AM UTC..
Quoting WxGeekVA:


What about Hurricane F***tard? lol
I can tell we are having way to much fun with this already.
please, its a explicit rule..

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please modify those posts with quoted Language as well
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Bill Gates is the chairman of Microsoft.

By no stretch of the imagination is he an idiot.
Mr. Gates has given huge amounts of money to organizations that help millions of human beings.....I want to be an idiot when i grow up.....yyyyaaayyyyyyyyy!!!
Published: January 31st, 2012 at 12:20 AM EDT |By Enenews Admin

Report: “High level radiation cloud” detected passing over New Zealand city — Peaks reached an “incredible” 1.89 microSv/h

Source: Peter Daley
Date: 29th January 2012

I have been in contact with a person In New Zealand who just sent me information of a detection of a high level radiation cloud passing over Dunedin New Zealand. You will find a copy of his email correspondence below. This chart is the recorded background radiation level during this event. Visual observation saw peaks reach an incredible 1.89 uS/Hr !

Read complete report.....[...] Link




Quoting Patrap:
please, its a explicit rule..

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Threats, intimidation, especially that which extends into the real world will be dealt with by extreme action.

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No spam.

If it was my post Pat, I apologize..You know I keep my posts civil, even when it gets really deep...:)

Quoting Patrap:

please modify those posts with quoted Language as well
Just for you Pat. Just for you.
Quoting Patrap:
please, its a explicit rule..

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please modify those posts with quoted Language as well


good point. fixed my original post.
Thanx..I almost choke on my salad..

It is Dr. Masters haus..we must respect dat.

btw Pat, my brother and I might be in New Orleans for an event in September. Perhaps we could plan a meetup?
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
To be honest I would not care anyway. Going out in a storm is they way I'd want to go.


I dont know how i would want to pass on...but dying in the 'perfect' storm overtop of me would be a good way i reckon. If not that, old age. But always got the unknown time of rapture, so i may not need physical death lol.


If i go in storm, make it a 5 lol
Link

Published: January 31st, 2012 at 09:43 AM EDT By Enenews
Rare quake hits near troubled Illinois nuke plant that released yesterday radioactive steam — “That’s right, she said earthquake” (VIDEO)

Title: Magnitude 2.4 – ILLINOIS
Source: USGS
Date: January 30, 2012 at 09:54:43 PM
Location: 42.340°N, 88.243°W

Title: Earthquake rattles northern suburbs, parts of Wis.
Source: ABC 7
Date: Jan 31, 2012 at 07:50 AM CT

If you live in the north or northwest suburbs and felt the ground move Monday night, you were not dreaming. A small earthquake centered near northwest suburban McHenry hit just before 10 p.m.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey’s (USGS) National Earthquake Information Center, the 2.4-magnitude earthquake hit at 9:54 p.m. about two miles east of McHenry, Ill.

The earthquake was given an intensity rating of 3, which means it was weak. Still, more than 300 people reported on the USGS website that they felt it.

Experts say the earthquake was felt from southeast Wisconsin to northern Illinois to northwest Indiana. [...]

Quoting WxGeekVA:


good point. fixed my original post.


glad someboyd else is standing up for the guidlines.

i dont appreciate foul launguage either:)

Quoting KoritheMan:
btw Pat, my brother and I might be in New Orleans for an event in September. Perhaps we could plan a meetup?


Sure,,we do it all the time. Just contact me via wu-mail ,we can ride da streetcar and go cuss the Corps of Engineers Bldg on River Road too.

Quoting Patrap:


Sure,,we do it all the time. Just contact me via wu-mail ,we can ride da streetcar and go cuss the Corps of Engineers Bldg on River Road too.
Sounds good! I'll update you when the time nears.
Hope this blogger is incorrect....


Reactor 4 had nuclear fuel in it. The Fukushima blogger leaked information on her blog.
Posted by Mochizuki on January 31st, 2012 · No Comments


Yesterday I heard this story.

I wasn’t sure if I should post it on the blog.

It proved all the announcement of Tepco was wrong.

but

The nuclear worker is trustworthy.

I slept on it.

Please read the post below as a story I heard from a Fukushima worker.

A story of a nuclear worker.

Tepco was planning to start reactor 4 in the AM of 311.

(The nuclear fuel was in reactor.)

Nuclear workers were told not to get close to reactor 4.

They found a crack on the pipe of reactor 4,
so they cancelled to start it as scheduled.

It was hit by the earthquake on the same day.

Soon after the earthquake hit it,
meltdown started.

Because reactor 4 was stand-by, cooling system could not be started either.

About the storage place of contaminated water.
I have seen the place reported on News.

It’s not the storage place of contaminated water. It’s somewhere else.

The contaminated water stocked at turbin building was already discharged to the sea months ago.

The damage of reactor 4 is serious.

However, Tepco is planning to restart reactor 5, 6 and reactor 1~4 of daini.

・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・ ・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・ ・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・ ・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・ ・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・ ・・・・・・・・・

If it’s true,

(The nuclear worker is trustworthy.)

In the container vessel of reactor4, melted fuel is stocked,

but there is no technology developed to pick it up,

It’s only the matter of time for it to have melt-out.

The longest time would be one year.

If another earthquake hits it, it’s over.

Technically speaking, if it goes melt-out, it would flow to the sea.

Pacific ocean side of Japan and west side of America won’t be inhabitable anymore.



Lol thought I would make this.
CyclneBuster has been pitchin' this idea all over Wunder World for years....
Alert level raised at Alaska’s Celevland Volcano – explosions expected with lava dome
The Associated Press
Published: Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2012 - 5:11 pm
Last Modified: Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2012 - 5:22 pm

ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- The warning level for a remote Alaska volcano has been raised after a new lava dome began forming, indicating the mountain could explode and send up an ash cloud that could threaten aircraft.

The Alaska Volcano Observatory on Tuesday elevated the alert status for Cleveland Volcano.

Officials say the new lava dome was spotted in the summit crater. The observatory says as of Monday, the dome was about 130 feet in diameter.

There have been no eruptions since Dec. 25 and Dec. 29, which destroyed the earlier lava dome built up over the fall.

Cleveland is a 5,675-foot peak on an uninhabited island 940 miles southwest of Anchorage.

Authorities say sudden eruptions could occur at any time, and ash clouds 20,000 feet above sea level are possible.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/01/31/4229154/alaska-vo lcano-lava-dome-forms.html#storylink=cpy
We have a free world around.... and sometimes we complain...

North Korea warns its citizens, cell phone users will be treated as ‘war criminals’
Posted on February 1, 2012
February 1, 2012 – NORTH KOREA – North Korea has warned its citizens against use of cell phones inside the country, saying anyone caught talking on mobiles would be branded as “war criminals” and punished accordingly, a media report said. North Korea has long relied on a total restriction of information to maintain control over its isolated citizenry, and in this crucial time of transition between late Kim Jong Il and his successor, Kim Jong Un, the state is clamping down on anyone using mobile phones, ‘The Daily Telegraph’ reported. –Times of India
Quoting JupiterKen:
Link

I know, I know... a WUWT link. Take a look at what Burt Rutan has to say about global warming. He hits the nail directly on the head.


No. No he doesn't. Everything he wrote in his response is either a twisted misrepresentation or an outright lie. It is quite clear that he has no clue about climate modeling or climate science, and certainly no clue about the impacts of additional CO2 in the atmosphere.

More to the point, in spite of allegedly having all this proof the climate science is a giant fraud, there are no papers coming from him. There is no data to review, no experiments to reproduce, and no results to verify. He's basically acting exactly like Donald Trump did when supposedly investigating President Obama: "You wouldn't believe the stuff we've been finding." Of course we wouldn't believe it since it was all made up.

His "proof" (available from his link) almost makes me thinks his doing this just get a laugh out of everyone. It is an embodiment of just about every single falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with a several emotional diatribes and personal attacks. It's like he took all the posts from Climate Audit and WUWT and distilled it into a powerpoint presentation.

His "paper" wouldn't last 5 seconds before a professional review board. And in fact, his previous attempts at "debating" scientists has revealed and incredible amount of ignorance about climate in general. Which shouldn't really be all that surprising considering that his field of expertise is aerospace engineering.

The guy may be a great engineer, but he is by no means a climate science expert, and it shows in his rantings against the "conspiracy" (yes he is a climate science conspiracy nutter) as well as his writings on the subject.

Even Watts and McIntyre have contributed a rare useful piece of information. Rutan hasn't even done that much.

For a more Rutan "discussion", you can go here. This, by the way, appears to be his typical MO when it comes to climate science.
Quoting sunlinepr:
We have a free world around.... and sometimes we complain...

North Korea warns its citizens, cell phone users will be treated as ‘war criminals’
Posted on February 1, 2012
February 1, 2012 – NORTH KOREA – North Korea has warned its citizens against use of cell phones inside the country, saying anyone caught talking on mobiles would be branded as “war criminals” and punished accordingly, a media report said. North Korea has long relied on a total restriction of information to maintain control over its isolated citizenry, and in this crucial time of transition between late Kim Jong Il and his successor, Kim Jong Un, the state is clamping down on anyone using mobile phones, ‘The Daily Telegraph’ reported. –Times of India
Breaking News- North Korea still carrying on with its same old crap.
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Breaking News- North Korea still carrying on with its same old crap.


have they been like that since the Korean War?
Quoting SPLbeater:


have they been like that since the Korean War?
Korean war is still going on so yes to answer your question. They never officially ended that war. Its the longest cease fire in history.
Quoting SPLbeater:


have they been like that since the Korean War?


It's gonna get worst with the new Kim Jong Un...
Cyclone Iggy, 65kts



i see that the last page had discussed "I" name storms being destructive.Isaac may carry the tradition this season...
Just for you guys


Quoting washingtonian115:
i see that the last page had discussed "I" name storms being destructive.Isaac may carry the tradition this season...


The 2000 iteration was certainly powerful:



Quoting KoritheMan:


The 2000 iteration was certainly powerful:



This year appears as if it will be nutreal.So we'll see what happens.
George Noory has a guest on who has drawn a conclusive connection between chemtrails and EMP (electro magnetic pulse)assaults on the United States by interstellar aliens......
Quoting presslord:
George Noory has a guest on who has drawn a conclusive connection between chemtrails and EMP (electro magnetic pulse)assaults on the United States by interstellar aliens......


Oooooh SNAP!
The Contrail's contain Zirconium Nyborg they said too.

That stuff aint cheap..Hans Solo use to run it out the Daga Bah System with the Millennium Falcon under the decking plates.
Lub My Merica..

If they Chemtrails over ya..,pass a Law saying dey cant.

Fairfax Prepares Anti-Chemtrail Resolution January 23, 2012

What do you think of the chemical contrail theory?



At its Jan. 11 meeting, the Fairfax Town Council considered and decided to bring back next month a resolution condemning aerial geo-engineering, more commonly referred to as chemtrails, and declaring the town a chemtrail-free zone.

As an extensive article in The Pacific Sun explained on Friday, chemtrails are believed to be chemicals sprayed from jet planes and can be seen leaving large trails in the sky on a regular basis. Believers argue that these trails are different than standard contrails left by regular jets that emit condensation at high altitudes.

"You need only look up at the sky on any given day and watch what's happening," said former Councilman Lew Tremaine, who had originally proposed bringing the item to the Fairfax Town Council, but because he wasn't able to before his retirement, Mayor Pam Hartwell-Herrero sponsored the issue and resolution.

Tremaine went on to say that he believes the chemtrails are aluminum being used to seed clouds. He said he's seen an increase in aluminum in the water supply over the years, as well.

Supporters of the issue -- as detailed in The Pacific Sun article -- point out that geo-engineering, or weather modification, and seeding of clouds has been acknowledged and discussed at length in mainstream media. When you can look up and see large, long-lasting chemtrails behind jet planes in the sky, the argument goes, it is this cloud-seeding that is taking place.

"They say we go and spray stuff out of jet airplanes; we're able to manipulate weather. They make no bones about it," said Peter Kirby at the council meeting. Kirby is a San Rafael resident, who with Fairfax resident Valeri Hood brought the issue to the council. "They're talking on and on and on about this and then you look up in the sky and there's these X's and grids and circles and things."

You can read more about the arguments behind chemtrails.

For most of the believers, the simplest argument is to look up in the sky and see what the jet trails are leaving behind. A video of chemtrails from YouTube can be seen at right. You can also watch a Discovery Channel special about the controversial subject at right.

The FAA's response in the Pacific Sun article and repeatedly whenever the issue comes up: there is no such thing as chemtrails. These are simply regular jet contrails.

It is because of the conspiracy and fringe connotations that come with the term "chemtrail" that the Fairfax Town Council is revising the resolution to refer to "geo-engineering" instead.

For years, Diane Hoffman said, she thought it was ridiculous too. But, then she started paying attention. "I didn't take the time to really pay attention and the last year or two I spent a lot of time looking at the sky there is something going on that doesn't seem natural at all."

Of course, that doesn't cut it for the skeptics, who think Fairfax is overstepping its bounds.

Fairfax resident Jory Prum argued at the start of the meeting that the resolution will "damage our reputation" as a town. Prum also, mockingly, urged the council to pass a resolution banning fire-breathing dragons from town.

"It's at least as important as the other resolutions you've passed," said Cindy Ross of the joke fire-breathing dragon ban. "After you're done with your busy work chasing mythical beasts, then I'd like you to look at crosswalks."

Do you think the council should take a position on geo-engineering and chemtrails?
Quoting Patrap:
Lub My Merica..

If they Chemtrails over ya..,pass a Law saying dey cant.

Fairfax Prepares Anti-Chemtrail Resolution January 23, 2012

What do you think of the chemical contrail theory?



At its Jan. 11 meeting, the Fairfax Town Council considered and decided to bring back next month a resolution condemning aerial geo-engineering, more commonly referred to as chemtrails, and declaring the town a chemtrail-free zone.

As an extensive article in The Pacific Sun explained on Friday, chemtrails are believed to be chemicals sprayed from jet planes and can be seen leaving large trails in the sky on a regular basis. Believers argue that these trails are different than standard contrails left by regular jets that emit condensation at high altitudes.

"You need only look up at the sky on any given day and watch what's happening," said former Councilman Lew Tremaine, who had originally proposed bringing the item to the Fairfax Town Council, but because he wasn't able to before his retirement, Mayor Pam Hartwell-Herrero sponsored the issue and resolution.

Tremaine went on to say that he believes the chemtrails are aluminum being used to seed clouds. He said he's seen an increase in aluminum in the water supply over the years, as well.

Supporters of the issue -- as detailed in The Pacific Sun article -- point out that geo-engineering, or weather modification, and seeding of clouds has been acknowledged and discussed at length in mainstream media. When you can look up and see large, long-lasting chemtrails behind jet planes in the sky, the argument goes, it is this cloud-seeding that is taking place.

"They say we go and spray stuff out of jet airplanes; we're able to manipulate weather. They make no bones about it," said Peter Kirby at the council meeting. Kirby is a San Rafael resident, who with Fairfax resident Valeri Hood brought the issue to the council. "They%u2019re talking on and on and on about this and then you look up in the sky and there%u2019s these X's and grids and circles and things."

You can read more about the arguments behind chemtrails.

For most of the believers, the simplest argument is to look up in the sky and see what the jet trails are leaving behind. A video of chemtrails from YouTube can be seen at right. You can also watch a Discovery Channel special about the controversial subject at right.

The FAA's response in the Pacific Sun article and repeatedly whenever the issue comes up: there is no such thing as chemtrails. These are simply regular jet contrails.

It is because of the conspiracy and fringe connotations that come with the term "chemtrail" that the Fairfax Town Council is revising the resolution to refer to "geo-engineering" instead.

For years, Diane Hoffman said, she thought it was ridiculous too. But, then she started paying attention. "I didn%u2019t take the time to really pay attention and the last year or two I spent a lot of time looking at the sky %u2013 there is something going on that doesn%u2019t seem natural at all."

Of course, that doesn't cut it for the skeptics, who think Fairfax is overstepping its bounds.

Fairfax resident Jory Prum argued at the start of the meeting that the resolution will "damage our reputation" as a town. Prum also, mockingly, urged the council to pass a resolution banning fire-breathing dragons from town.

"It's at least as important as the other resolutions you've passed," said Cindy Ross of the joke fire-breathing dragon ban. "After you're done with your busy work chasing mythical beasts, then I'd like you to look at crosswalks."

Do you think the council should take a position on geo-engineering and chemtrails?


celestial tic tac toe?!
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Just for you guys




That is awesome. +10000
Quoting presslord:


celestial tic tac toe?!







Well good night everyone. Remember to brush your teeth. Vermin Supreme is watching you.

Quoting sunlinepr:
We have a free world around.... and sometimes we complain...

North Korea warns its citizens, cell phone users will be treated as ‘war criminals’
Posted on February 1, 2012
February 1, 2012 – NORTH KOREA – North Korea has warned its citizens against use of cell phones inside the country, saying anyone caught talking on mobiles would be branded as “war criminals” and punished accordingly, a media report said. North Korea has long relied on a total restriction of information to maintain control over its isolated citizenry, and in this crucial time of transition between late Kim Jong Il and his successor, Kim Jong Un, the state is clamping down on anyone using mobile phones, ‘The Daily Telegraph’ reported. –Times of India


Don't forget, wherever you are, Big Brother is Watching:

From the BBC
31 January 2012 Last updated at 07:51 ET

Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US

238. wxmod
Quoting presslord:
George Noory has a guest on who has drawn a conclusive connection between chemtrails and EMP (electro magnetic pulse)assaults on the United States by interstellar aliens......


Some people insist on making a conspiracy out of something down to Earth. Oil companies are adding aluminum oxide to jet fuel so they hope to lower Earth's temperature and keep selling their oil products. Hughes Aircraft has a patent on welsbach stratospheric seeding. No conspiracy, just business.
Contrails Worse for Climate Change Than Planes’ Carbon Emissions

emissions of particulates high in the atmosphere, the production of nitrogen oxides and the direct production of clouds through contrail water vapor. Over time, these thin lines of water evolve into “contrail cirrus” clouds that lose their linear features and become indistinguishable from the real thing. Although low-altitude clouds tend to cool the planet by reflecting sunlight, high-altitude clouds like cirrus have an insulating effect and actually enhance warming.


To figure out the impact of these cirrus clouds, the authors created a module for an existing climate model (the ECHAM4) that simulated the evolution of aircraft-induced cirrus clouds (they could validate some of the model’s output against satellite images of contrails). They found hot spots of these clouds over the United States and Europe, as well as the North Atlantic travel corridor.

Smaller affects were seen in East Asia and over the northern Pacific. Over central Europe, values peaked at about 10 percent, in part because the output of the North Atlantic corridor drifted in that direction.

On their own, aircraft-generated cirrus produces a global climate forcing of about 40 milliwatts per square meter. (In contrast, the solar cycle results in changes of about a full watt/M2.) But these clouds suppressed the formation of natural cirrus clouds, which partially offset the impact of the aircraft-generated ones, reducing the figure to about 30 mW/M2. That still leaves it among the most significant contribution to the climate produced by aircraft.

Some reports have suggested we might focus on making engines that emit less water vapor, but the water is a necessary byproduct of burning hydrocarbon. We’ll almost certainly be accomplishing that as a result of rising fuel prices, and will limit carbon emissions at the same time. wired
Quoting presslord:
George Noory has a guest on who has drawn a conclusive connection between chemtrails and EMP (electro magnetic pulse)assaults on the United States by interstellar aliens......
does that mean i should shut off the ultra zonic wave generating device that was drop off to me from my friends
241. MTWX
Kinda reminds me of a story I heard a few years ago involoving cloud seeding. (not sure if true or not)but apparently somewhere in eastern europe during the massive drought they thought it was a good idea to try and seed clouds with powdered concrete. Needless to say that didn't end up too well... the water mixed with the powder and fell as concrete "hail" some chunks as large as basketballs!
WHy is every1 concerned about contrails???
243. wxmod
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
does that mean i should shut off the ultra zonic wave generating device that was drop off to me from my friends


Keep it on a little bit longer. The ham's almost cooked.
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Well good night everyone. Remember to brush your teeth. Vermin Supreme is watching you.


You got to ask, why isn't this guy rich? Some of the folks with super-pacs make him look positively bland.
www.solarham.com

Updated 1/31/2012 @ 18:27 UTC

Solar Update

Solar activity remains low with only B-Class activity detected within the past 24 hours. Regions 1411 in the south and 1413 in the north, are both slowly showing signs of sunspot growth. A small new sunspot looks to be forming to the north of 1408 on Tuesday. There will be a chance for a C-Class flare in the next 24 hours.

After several days at S1 to S2 Radiation Storm levels, the proton flux is now below the S1 Minor Storm threshold.


[SDO] AIA 171

246. wxmod
Quoting SPLbeater:
WHy is every1 concerned about contrails???


Same reason you said Bill Gates was an idiot. Connect thy brain.
..Tin Foil does not reflect the Shorter Waves.

Lead is heavy and hard to fold too
"They found hot spots of these clouds over the United States and Europe, as well as the North Atlantic travel corridor."

What exactly is a "hot spot"?

"On their own, aircraft-generated cirrus produces a global climate forcing of about 40 milliwatts per square meter. (In contrast, the solar cycle results in changes of about a full watt/M2.) But these clouds suppressed the formation of natural cirrus clouds, which partially offset the impact of the aircraft-generated ones, reducing the figure to about 30 mW/M2. That still leaves it among the most significant contribution to the climate produced by aircraft."

This sounds ominous. Odd that this article never says what the exact effect is. I am sure that contrails have an effect and that they are worth studying, but this article seems to swing and miss.
Quoting wxmod:


Same reason you said Bill Gates was an idiot. Connect thy brain.


too much money, or too pathetic to think about anything else? lol.

contrails aint never hurt noone. and they wont. :D

With that note, i finish bassin, and 2 bed.
Quoting Patrap:
The Contrail's contain Zirconium Nyborg they said too.

That stuff aint cheap..Hans Solo use to run it out the Daga Bah System with the Millennium Falcon under the decking plates.


Exactly what Han smuggled for Jabba is never given in the Star Wars movies, unless I missed something in the umpteen times I watched it.

In the Jedi Academy Trilogy, it is revealed that Han Solo smuggled "Glitterstim Spice," which is used as a recreational drug. Apparently it is a stimulant, and an aphrodesiac, and also temporarily gives the user "real" telepathic abilities, i.e. not a hallucinogen.


To be honest, I always thought he was smuggling something like weapons or maybe "information".

Who knew Han was a drug dealer?
253. wxmod
Quoting SPLbeater:


too much money, or too pathetic to think about anything else? lol.

contrails aint never hurt noone. and they wont. :D

With that note, i finish bassin, and 2 bed.


Contrails decrease the temperature difference between elevations in the atmosphere. If there's no difference, then there's no lift, so there's no thunderstorm for SPLbeater to watch. Ouch. That hurts.
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:


Don't forget, wherever you are, Big Brother is Watching:

From the BBC
31 January 2012 Last updated at 07:51 ET

Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US



Oh, noooo, must be the season of the Witch...



When I look out my window,
Many sights to see.
And when I look in my window,
So many different people to be
That it's strange, so strange.
You've got to pick up every stitch,
You've got to pick up every stitch,
You've got to pick up every stitch,
Mm, must be the season of the witch,
Must be the season of the witch, yeah,
Must be the season of the witch.
Quoting SPLbeater:
WHy is every1 concerned about contrails???
do you even believe in contrails?
Quoting Xyrus2000:


No. No he doesn't. Everything he wrote in his response is either a twisted misrepresentation or an outright lie. It is quite clear that he has no clue about climate modeling or climate science, and certainly no clue about the impacts of additional CO2 in the atmosphere.

More to the point, in spite of allegedly having all this proof the climate science is a giant fraud, there are no papers coming from him. There is no data to review, no experiments to reproduce, and no results to verify. He's basically acting exactly like Donald Trump did when supposedly investigating President Obama: "You wouldn't believe the stuff we've been finding." Of course we wouldn't believe it since it was all made up.

His "proof" (available from his link) almost makes me thinks his doing this just get a laugh out of everyone. It is an embodiment of just about every single falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with a several emotional diatribes and personal attacks. It's like he took all the posts from Climate Audit and WUWT and distilled it into a powerpoint presentation.

His "paper" wouldn't last 5 seconds before a professional review board. And in fact, his previous attempts at "debating" scientists has revealed and incredible amount of ignorance about climate in general. Which shouldn't really be all that surprising considering that his field of expertise is aerospace engineering.

The guy may be a great engineer, but he is by no means a climate science expert, and it shows in his rantings against the "conspiracy" (yes he is a climate science conspiracy nutter) as well as his writings on the subject.

Even Watts and McIntyre have contributed a rare useful piece of information. Rutan hasn't even done that much.

For a more Rutan "discussion", you can go here. This, by the way, appears to be his typical MO when it comes to climate science.



Hi Nea.
93P


Whoa! Got thunder and everything with this rain. Sorry Beater. ;)

Quoting AtHomeInTX:
Whoa! Got thunder and everything with this rain. Sorry Beater. ;)



The thunder rolls
and the lightning strikes

Another love grows cold
on a sleepless night
Quoting KoritheMan:


The thunder rolls
and the lightning strikes

Another love grows cold
on a sleepless night



...and the thunder rolls.
Quoting Grothar:



...and the thunder rolls.


Every light is burning
in the house across town

She's pacing by the telephone
in her faded flannel gown

Asking for a miracle
Hoping she's not right

Praying it's the weather
that's kept him out all night

And the thunder rolls
And the thunder rolls

Yeah, you can tell I grew up with this song. :P
Sadly I didn't grow up with the uncut iteration, where she grabs a gun and attempts to kill him.
Quoting KoritheMan:


Agreed. I told my dad "So they say the world ends this year. I hope I go out with a hurricane."
nothing truly ends,the universe wastes nothing,it simply transforms
Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Brisbane
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
FORECAST FOR EASTERN AUSTRALIA REGION BETWEEN 142E-160E SOUTH OF 10S
2:30 pm EST February 2012
===================================

The monsoon trough extends across north Queensland and the northern Coral Sea and is expected to develop further over the next few days. A weak low currently sits over eastern Gulf of Carpentaria waters and is forecast to move east into the Coral Sea late in the week. The low is forecast to develop further over the Coral Sea and continue to move east, away from the Queensland coast, into the weekend. If this low does become a tropical cyclone it is unlikely to have any significant impacts along the Queensland coast.

Tropical Cyclone Formation Potential
====================================

Thursday: Low
Friday: Moderate
Saturday: Moderate
105 am CST Wed Feb 1 2012

...A Tornado Warning remains in effect until 130 am CST for central
Evangeline Parish...

At 1259 am CST...National Weather Service meteorologists detected a
tornado. This tornado was located 9 miles southwest of Pine
Prairie..moving northeast at 35 mph.

The tornado will otherwise remain over mainly rural areas of the
indicated Parish.


TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
1254 AM CST WED FEB 1 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAKE CHARLES HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL EVANGELINE PARISH IN CENTRAL LOUISIANA...
EAST CENTRAL ALLEN PARISH IN SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...

* UNTIL 130 AM CST

* AT 1253 AM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR BOND...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
BEAVER AND PINE PRAIRIE
Tornado Warning
Statement as of 1:26 AM CST on February 01, 2012

The National Weather Service in Lake Charles has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
southwestern Avoyelles Parish in central Louisiana...
this includes Bunkie...
northeastern Evangeline Parish in central Louisiana...
northwestern St. Landry Parish in central Louisiana...

* until 200 am CST

* at 122 am CST... National Weather Service meteorologists detected a
severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado near Pine
Prairie... moving northeast at 30 mph.

* Other locations in the warning include but are not limited to Bayou
Chicot... Chicot State Park... Indian Lake and Whiteville
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #11
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 07F
18:00 PM FST February 1 2012
======================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 07F (997 hPa) located at 20.2S 172.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 25 knots. The depression is reported as moving southerly at 20 knots. Position poor based on multisatellite visible/infrared imagery with animation and peripheral surface observation

Organization started to deteriorate significantly as of midday today. Deep convection has been detached from the low level circulation center due to the influence of strong shear. System is moving towards the south. Sea surface temperature around 26C

Global models are moving the system to the southwest with little intensification. This might be due to extratropical transition.

Potential for this system to develop into a tropical cyclone in the next 24 hours is low.
Interesting map here in the UK, where until this last week it's been a record-breaking warm and wet winter. In the English Lake District there were only seven dry days in the last three months of the year, and after last winter, when it was regularly freezing hard all day through December, this winter we're still barely having frosts. Newspapers are going ape about the cold weather on its way for weeks, but that's what is technically known as rubbish IMHO
There is no way that it should only get down to 52F for a low in Northern Virginia in January....
Quoting WxGeekVA:
There is no way that it should only get down to 52F for a low in Northern Virginia in January....


Totally screwed up high / High Mins records

Terry, Montana had a 9 degree High Min record break.

Cassville Ranger Stn, Mo. 7 degree High Min record break.

Tipton 5 SW, IN. 8 degree High Max break.

Numerous other 3 to 5 degree breaks.

238 to 1 highs and high min breaks vs 1 cold break (and I think the cold break is just a tie, and probably just bad data. 15 degrees seems fishy in Florida.)
Quoting FormerAussie:
Interesting map here in the UK, where until this last week it's been a record-breaking warm and wet winter. In the English Lake District there were only seven dry days in the last three months of the year, and after last winter, when it was regularly freezing hard all day through December, this winter we're still barely having frosts. Newspapers are going ape about the cold weather on its way for weeks, but that's what is technically known as rubbish IMHO
That's happened here, as well; in many places--including this forum--I've seen winter lovers become hopeful for one cold weather forecast after another, only to have their hopes dashed when it doesn't pan out. And things aren't looking too much chillier, at least for this first week of February; the following maps from HAMweather show low temperature anomalies forecast for the next five days across the continental U.S.. There's definitely a bit of moderation expected, especially in the West. But most folks will have to hold off on building fresh snowmen for at least another week:

Warm

Warm

Warm

Warm

Warm
From Miami NWS...

JANUARY HAS BEEN A VERY DRY MONTH ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA. AT MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ONLY 0.21 INCHES FELL SO FAR FOR THE MONTH
WHICH IS THE 7TH DRIEST MONTH ON RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.04
INCHES BACK IN 1951. FORT LAUDERDALE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY
RECEIVED 0.20 INCHES SO FAR FOR THE MONTH WHICH IS THE 5TH DRIEST
ON RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.00 ON 1951, 1949, AND 1917. WEST
PALM BEACH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY RECEIVED 0.38 INCHES OF
RAINFALL SO FAR FOR THE MONTH WHICH IS THE 10TH DRIEST MONTH ON
RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.11 INCHES BACK IN 2009. NAPLES
REGIONAL AIRPORT HAS ONLY RECEIVED 0.17 INCHES SO FAR FOR THE
MONTH WHICH IS THE 6TH DRIEST ON RECORD WITH THE DRIEST BEING 0.00
INCHES BACK IN 1949.
Speaking of abnormal temperatures, I ran across the following article in Monday's Grand Forks [ND] Herald:

Grand Forks sees record-breaking fall, winter

The Red River Valley is on its way to the warmest fall and winter on record.

Unofficially, the average daily temperature between Sept. 1 and Jan. 29 has been 35.9 degrees in Grand Forks.

That's nearly 2 degrees above the previous record average of 34.1 in 2006, according to the National Weather Service office in Grand Forks.

In Fargo, the average daily temperature has been 38.2, breaking the old mark of 36.7, set in 1932 and matched in 2006.

"When you look at 150 days, and you%u2019re looking at 1-plus degrees over the previous records, that's pretty impressive," said Mark Ewens, climate forecaster for the weather service in Grand Forks.

- - - - - - -

"It's unusual and it's record-setting. But we've had similar occurrences in the last decade," Ewens said. "With all the snow we've had these last three years before this one, we kind of forget that we've had some warm winters recently."

In fact, considering the September-through-January period, six of the Top 10 warmest falls and winters in Grand Forks have occurred since the 1999-2000 seasons: 2000, 2002, 2006, 2007, 2010 and 2012.

Fargo, meanwhile, has experienced four of its Top 10 warmest falls and winters since the 2001-2002 seasons: 2002, 2006, 2007 and 2012.

The weather service acknowledges that climate change has contributed to the warmer winters over the past few decades.

In Grand Forks, all of the Top 10 records -- again for Sept. 1-Jan. 29 -- have occurred since 1981, with three in the 1980s, but just one in the 1990s.
Looks like we'll make it up near 75 °F today.

That's just great on February 1 :)

Let's not forget what was occurring this time last year.

Neapoliton, this warm weather in Indiana saved my poor old mother money on heating her home, now she have money for other things,Plus the NFL likes Indiana weather this year, 58F last nite in Superbowl village, all those businesses making a profit, I had my Harley out on the road with the wind in my face, and it was warm. Reminds me of Isaac Hays song Freedom, I used to listen to back in the Woodstock days!
I love freedom, and hate government intervention!

Sincerely, X Hippie, and X government protester!
New freedom lover!
Quoting wxmod:


Contrails decrease the temperature difference between elevations in the atmosphere. If there's no difference, then there's no lift, so there's no thunderstorm for SPLbeater to watch. Ouch. That hurts.


lol, you act as if i beleive that xD
Quoting AtHomeInTX:
Whoa! Got thunder and everything with this rain. Sorry Beater. ;)



always nextime....:D
My God.

11 degree break in Iowa, and I found another 9 degree break in Missouri.

There are several 5 to 9 degree breaks in iowa and Missouri.

These numbers are as absurd as last year's summer record breaks.
Quoting trunkmonkey:
Neapoliton, this warm weather in Indiana saved my poor old mother money on heating her home, now she have money for other things,Plus the NFL likes Indiana weather this year, 58F last nite in Superbowl village, all those businesses making a profit, I had my Harley out on the road with the wind in my face, and it was warm. Reminds me of Isaac Hays song Freedom, I used to listen to back in the Woodstock days!
I love freedom, and hate government intervention!

Sincerely, X Hippie, and X government protester!
New freedom lover!


So, you don't like Roads, electricity, public education, or the internet? Those things were all developed and/or heavily funded by the government.

You don't like bridges, dams, and levees?

You don't like street lights or traffic signals that save lives?

Meh.

Everyone is a socialist, they're just too blind to realize it.

Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck are socialists as well, but they don't realize it either.
Quoting Xyrus2000:


No. No he doesn't. Everything he wrote in his response is either a twisted misrepresentation or an outright lie. It is quite clear that he has no clue about climate modeling or climate science, and certainly no clue about the impacts of additional CO2 in the atmosphere.

More to the point, in spite of allegedly having all this proof the climate science is a giant fraud, there are no papers coming from him. There is no data to review, no experiments to reproduce, and no results to verify. He's basically acting exactly like Donald Trump did when supposedly investigating President Obama: "You wouldn't believe the stuff we've been finding." Of course we wouldn't believe it since it was all made up.

His "proof" (available from his link) almost makes me thinks his doing this just get a laugh out of everyone. It is an embodiment of just about every single falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with a several emotional diatribes and personal attacks. It's like he took all the posts from Climate Audit and WUWT and distilled it into a powerpoint presentation.

His "paper" wouldn't last 5 seconds before a professional review board. And in fact, his previous attempts at "debating" scientists has revealed and incredible amount of ignorance about climate in general. Which shouldn't really be all that surprising considering that his field of expertise is aerospace engineering.

The guy may be a great engineer, but he is by no means a climate science expert, and it shows in his rantings against the "conspiracy" (yes he is a climate science conspiracy nutter) as well as his writings on the subject.

Even Watts and McIntyre have contributed a rare useful piece of information. Rutan hasn't even done that much.

For a more Rutan "discussion", you can go here. This, by the way, appears to be his typical MO when it comes to climate science.


Did you peruse Burt's entire 98 page .ppt presentation? Thought not. And... what does Trump and Obama have to do with any of this? Now let me see, should I believe your opinion or the facts?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Looks like we'll make it up near 75 °F today.

That's just great on February 1 :)

Let's not forget what was occurring this time last year.

I still can't get over that picture.It looked like an apocolypes had happened.Sorta similar to the 1st episode of the walking dead.
Quoting trunkmonkey:
Neapoliton, this warm weather in Indiana saved my poor old mother money on heating her home, now she have money for other things,Plus the NFL likes Indiana weather this year, 58F last nite in Superbowl village, all those businesses making a profit, I had my Harley out on the road with the wind in my face, and it was warm. Reminds me of Isaac Hays song Freedom, I used to listen to back in the Woodstock days!
I love freedom, and hate government intervention!

Sincerely, X Hippie, and X government protester!
New freedom lover!
About that road on which you were riding; was that a public highway built by the DOT? And the stadium in which the Super Bowl will be played: wasn't it majority-financed by the State of Indiana, the City of Indianapolis, and several of the counties in the area?

It's difficult to get away from that pesky old "government intervention", isn't it?
...and...the gas in the Harley is heavily subsidized by....well....you know....
Quoting JupiterKen:
And... what does Trump and Obama have to do with any of this?
Because the amount of peer-reviewed science Rutan has produced that refutes CAGW theory is exactly equivalent to the amount of "stuff" Trump's "investigators" found in Hawaii that "proved" Obama wasn't born there. In other words, absolutely nothing.

I tried to go through Rutan's colorful collage o'climate stuff, but stopped several pages in after realizing, as Xyrus noted, that he was showing nothing but the same "falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with several emotional diatribes and personal attacks". Not worth the bother, in other words; we can see the same by flipping on over to WUWT, et al.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Because the amount of peer-reviewed science Rutan has produced that refutes CAGW theory is exactly equivalent to the amount of "stuff" Trump's "investigators" found in Hawaii that "proved" Obama wasn't born there. In other words, absolutely nothing.

I tried to go through Rutan's colorful collage o'climate stuff, but stopped several pages in after realizing, as Xyrus noted, that he was showing nothing but the same "falsehood, distortion, and FUD from deniers, complete with several emotional diatribes and personal attacks". Not worth the bother, in other words; we can see the same by flipping on over to WUWT, et al.


I have a feeling I know what this means...but I'm not 100% certain...Is it a reference to quality of data?
This would be interesting..If it panned out..