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Betting on a White Christmas, U.K.-Style

By: Bob Henson 5:30 PM GMT on December 21, 2016

Millions of Americans watch and wait for the potential of a white Christmas each year, but in the United Kingdom, people put their money where their forecast is. Unlike the United States, betting on weather events is legal in the U.K., and snowfall on Christmas Day is just one of the many atmospheric phenomena on which Brits can place bets. In April 2011, for example, one betting firm was offering 4-to-11 odds that Britain would be hotter than the Mediterranean holiday island of Ibiza on an upcoming holiday weekend, and 3-to-1 odds that it would rain in London during the royal wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton. Last Friday, nine days before Christmas, bookies set 8-to-1 odds that London would see snowfall on December 25, meaning that bettors would collect $8 for every $1 they bet on a white Christmas. That prospect looks very unlikely now, with temperatures expected to approach 60°F (16°C).


Figure 1. Rooftops of houses in the town of Luton, England, are covered with snow on December 22, 2009. Heavy snowfall resulted in cancelled flights and train trips across the country. Image credit: Oli Scarff/Getty Images.

A snow-frosted British Christmas: more fable than fact
Those who dare to bet on snow in London for Christmas will usually be disappointed. Our image of a snowy England during the holidays was largely the doing of Charles Dickens, author of “A Christmas Carol.” When Dickens was growing up in London during the 1810s, near the tail end of the Little Ice Age, there were reportedly six white Christmases in just a decade’s time, and this experience likely colored his later writings. Actually, snowfall across England is more likely to occur in January, February, and March than in December, thanks to the delay in winter cooling produced by the surrounding ocean. Another factor that made white Christmases even more common in England prior to 1752 was a timekeeping quirk. The British changeover from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar meant that Christmas suddenly moved up by 12 days relative to the winter solstice, which pushed the holiday away from the climatologically snowier period that occurs well after the solstice.

In our warmer 21st-century climate, snow cover at Christmas is fairly uncommon across the British Isles. The UK Met Office defines a white Christmas as when at least one snowflake is observed between midnight and midnight on December 25 (no accumulation required). By this definition, most years produce a “white Christmas” at least somewhere in the UK, but only 4 of the last 52 years have produced widespread snow cover (defined as more than 40% of UK stations reporting snow on the ground at 9 AM). Two standouts in recent years were Christmas 2009 and 2010, both of which saw widespread snows of a few inches and a solidly white Christmas in many areas. A total of 83% of British observation sites reported snow on the ground in 2010, which is the largest coverage for any year in reliable snowfall records that date back to the 1960s. In contrast, 2015 saw the UK’s warmest December on record, with no snow cover anywhere in the nation on Christmas Day (although it still counted as a white Christmas on the national scale because 10% of stations reported at least a flake falling).


Figure 2. Britain was almost completely snow-covered on January 7, 2010, following days of heavy snow. Image credit: Jeff Schmaltz, MODIS Rapid Response Team, NASA/GSFC, via Wikimedia Commons.


Figure 3. Historical odds of a white Christmas, in percentages, based on data from 1981 to 2010. Image credit: NOAA.


Figure 4. Predicted departure from average temperature (in degrees °C; multiply by 1.8 for degrees °F) for 18Z (1:00 pm EST) Sunday, December 25, 2016, as projected by the GFS model run at 12Z Wednesday. Below-average readings will predominate west of the Rockies, with afternoon temperatures up to 20°F - 25°F above average in the central states. Despite the mildness, most areas should end up falling short of record highs, especially in parts of the East Coast where Christmas Day 2015 was by far the warmest on record. Image credit: tropicaltidbits.com.

The U.S. white-Christmas outlook: not too far from climatology
As of Wednesday, the odds for a white Christmas 2016 in the United States are fairly close to what one might expect: highest in the mountainous West and along the northern tier of states, where recent storms have already dropped a decent snowpack, but virtually nil from the central Plains to the Eastern Seaboard and southward. As a strong upper-level storm approaches the central states, mild air will be pumped north across the lower- and mid-Mississippi Valley. Instead of snow, severe thunderstorms could erupt on Christmas Day across parts of the Southern Plains, especially Oklahoma, according to the long-range outlook issued Wednesday by NOAA's Storm Prediction Center. Further north, a swath of heavy, windblown snow will likely shift from Wyoming and Montana across the Dakotas and into northern Minnesota from Sunday into Monday. Many of the nation’s largest cities in the East, Midwest, and South saw their last white Christmas in either 2009 or 2010, which were harsh winters in the U.S. as well as Britain.

You can find up-to-the-minute forecasts of where snow is expected over the holiday weekend, plus lots of additional background, at a special weather.com page.

The Weather Company tops new analysis of forecast accuracy
A major analysis of more than 139 million forecasts issued by public and private firms in the United States, Asia-Pacific, and Europe finds that those from The Weather Company, an IBM Business (which includes Weather Underground), come out on top. The study, produced by the U.S.-based verification firm ForecastWatch, examined the percentage of high and low temperature forecasts that fell within 3°F of the observed noon-to-midnight highs and midnight-to-noon lows, as well as the percentage of time that icons predicting precipitation or no precipitation on a calendar day were correct. The Weather Channel (via weather.com) and/or Weather Underground showed the greatest accuracy for 34 out of 45 regional and lead-time groupings in the study, which spanned time periods from 2010 to mid-2016 for the U.S. and 2013 to mid-2016 for Asia-Pacific and Europe.

“Our users and clients turn to us to help them make weather-related decisions with confidence. This study shows The Weather Company as the undisputed accuracy leader, confirming the trust of more than 250 million people who choose The Weather Company for weather information every month,” said Mary Glackin, senior vice president of science and forecasting operations at The Weather Company. “Making a claim is easy, but backing it up takes continued effort and focus on who you’re serving. With IBM, we’ve stepped up investment and made a dedicated effort toward advancing our forecasting skill in 2016.”

See the IBM news release for more on the forecast technologies used by The Weather Channel and Weather Underground, as well as a link to the full analysis from ForecastWatch. We’ll be back on Friday with a new post.

Bob Henson


Figure 5. David Karnovsky, general counsel for the New York City Department of City Planning, cross-country skis down West 73rd Street towards Central Park on December 27, 2010. A blizzard that pounded the U.S. East Coast delivered 20 inches of snow to New York City while snarling post-Christmas travel. Image credit: Andrew Burton/Getty Images.


Winter Weather

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Thanks Mr Henson. I'm hoping for a White Christmas here at my Soo Cal mountain location!
Let me guess, This topic will turn into a Climate Change issue soon. SMH
Science is not swayed by a Human SMH, nor any self deprecating post.

We can multi task quite easily here.

Please,Try the Pecan Pie.



Little lines of showers coming from the south into Soo Cal.....we will take it all!
Christmas looks warm. Are we expecting wide spread record highs again like last Christmas?
Xmas Day in Nola

Fo'cast

60 Low 72 High

Gaw-jus'



Quoting 3. HurricaneHunterJoe:

Thanks Mr Henson. I'm hoping for a White Christmas here at my Soo Cal mountain location!

I hope you get it, Joe. Here it's looking like snow. Excerpt from NWS-SLC's HWO:

DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY

A WEAKENING STORM SYSTEM OFF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA COAST WILL LIFT
NORTHEAST INTO ARIZONA THURSDAY...SPREADING MOUNTAIN SNOW AND
VALLEY RAIN AND SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN UTAH
THURSDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT.

A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT STORM WILL AFFECT MUCH OF THE OUTLOOK
AREA DURING THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND
. HOLIDAY TRAVEL IMPACTS COULD
BEGIN AS EARLY AS SATURDAY AFTERNOON...WITH THE GREATEST IMPACTS
SATURDAY NIGHT AS SNOW DEVELOPS OVER MOST OF THE OUTLOOK AREA.
SNOW WILL CONTINUE INTO CHRISTMAS DAY...THEN TURN SHOWERY AND
REMAIN MAINLY OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY
MONDAY.
Quoting 7. pipelines:

Christmas looks warm. Are we expecting wide spread record highs again like last Christmas?


Even though Sunday's temps will be mild, especially in the central states, it would be very hard to beat the incredible record highs set in many places on Christmas Day 2015! Widespread clouds may tamp down the high temperatures where the air mass is warmest. Best bet might be a few record-warm daily lows in the Arklatex region, where Christmas Day could stay entirely above 55-60°F in some locations depending on the timing of the front. The highest Christmas Day minimum in Dallas-Fort Worth is 55°F, set in 1936, and the current NWS forecast is for a morning low of 61°F and a high of 70°F


Is that a pinhole eye near the SE coast of Florida?
%u2018Everyone was stunned': Snow falls in Sahara desert town for first time in 37 years
Jason Samenow December 21


Snow on the dunes near Ain Sefra, Algeria, on Dec. 19. (Karim Bouchetata)


Absolutely stunning photos too! (barbamz may have already told us about this, but I missed it).


Quoting 4. blueyedbiker:

Let me guess, This topic will turn into a Climate Change issue soon. SMH


How about making bets on whether Santa's workshop will melt through the ice ?

North Pole to reach 50 degrees warmer than normal


According to current weather models, the Arctic is going to be unseasonably warm later this week, with air temperatures climbing to just under the freezing point (32 degrees F.) on Thursday

Link
Quoting 7. pipelines:

Christmas looks warm. Are we expecting wide spread record highs again like last Christmas?


Just seasonably mild in the Mid Atlantic. Within a standard deviation of the mean. Not like the unbelievably warm and humid ( 70, 60 dewpoints) Christmas eve last year. December 2015 was the only calendar winter month I've ever had HEAT damage to my broccoli. (And it froze in January having lost significant cold hardiness from the warmth of December)

It should be noted the heat damage threshold is a lot lower in December because of short days and is due to insufficient light to support respiration so some of the florets die and the rest taste terrible. There are other ways high temperatures can damage broccoli in the warm season, either night temperatures staying above 20C (68F) which prevents the florets from initiating (with some varieties that threshold is as low as 15C or 59F) , or brute force 35C heat which slows growth and causes the plant's health to decline over a week or so.

Yeah I like my broccoli!
Storm Relative Mean Radial Velocity .50 degree elv.



Impressive

Quoting 13. RobertWC:



How about making bets on whether Santa's workshop will melt through the ice ?

North Pole to reach 50 degrees warmer than normal


According to current weather models, the Arctic is going to be unseasonably warm later this week, with air temperatures climbing to just under the freezing point (32 degrees F.) on Thursday

Link



This would be the "Santa Swimming" betting pool. THe first time that the latitude 89 and poleward circle is completely ice free. Alternatively the "Straight North Passage", up the meridian line from Europe, North over the Pole then due south through the Bering Strait with no ice within 20 miles either side of the route. I expect both to occur within 15 years.

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service San Diego CA
956 AM PST Wed Dec 21 2016

...Locally Heavy Rainfall Possible Overnight-Thursday for San
Diego County, especially Southern Areas...

...Significant Storm to Impact SoCal Friday Evening-Saturday...

.SYNOPSIS...

An upper level low will move slowly northeast to near San Diego
by Thursday morning. This system will bring numerous showers and a
slight chance for thunderstorms through Thursday with locally
heavy rainfall possible across San Diego County, especially
southern areas. Friday will be a mainly dry day, then a major
winter storm will drop into SoCal from the NW beginning Friday
night, continuing through Saturday night, bringing widespread rain
to the region, with heavy snow possible in all of the SoCal
mountain ranges. Travel conditions on Saturday over the mountains
could be treacherous. Christmas Day into early next week is
expected to be slightly milder and dry.

&&

.DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE...
SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTIES...

...Update - Increased Rainfall Amounts Thru Thursday, Especially
San Diego...

An impressive upper low is seen spinning off Baja and will move to
near San Diego by Thursday morning. Precipitable water will
increase further as this low approaches tomorrow morning and upper
level divergence will increase. A slightly destabilizing layer
aloft could even produce a couple of elevated thunderstorms with
the risk greatest towards the border. A few lightning strikes
were detected east of the upper low over central Baja earlier this
morning.

Parameters look to be coming together for more rainfall than
originally thought. Both the 21.00Z runs of the wrf and cansac-
wrf showed a bullseye of 2"+ over San Diego tomorrow morning.
However, the latest WRF run now has heavier rain over the ocean
and east over the mountains (1-2"). So while confidence is low in
where heavier rain will fall, it`s increasing that locally heavy
rainfall of 1"+ will fall somewhere. So, have increased POPS and
rainfall amounts significantly, especially from San Diego to the
southern mountains. Overall average rainfall is 0.5-1.0" but
isolated higher totals will be possible where convection occurs.


A major winter storm is expected to drop into SoCal Friday night,
and bring impactful weather conditions through Saturday night.
This is by far a much colder storm than we`ve seen so far this wet
season with a 536 DM peak intensity predicted by the EC at 00Z
Sunday. Initially snow levels will be fairly high Friday night,
but gradually lowering during the day Saturday, and by Saturday
evening should be below pass level. The heaviest precipitation
will occur during the day Saturday, especially Saturday morning,
but aggressive wraparound precip should linger into Saturday
night, when cold air will drop snow levels to as low as 3000-3500
ft. Substantial winter weather travel impacts are likely with this
storm Saturday through Saturday night. Below the snow level, there
will also be the potential for heavy rain during a short period of
time coincident with the frontal passage, perhaps conducive to
flooding problems.

In addition to the impacts likely from the moderate to heavy
precip, there will be strong westerly winds Friday night through
Saturday, especially over the mountains and deserts.

Christmas Day should feature drying out across the region but very
cold over the mountains and deserts with cold air in place. Monday
will see some moderation in temperatures. There could be another
cutoff low develop around Tuesday next week with more wacky
weather.

Models 5-7 days ago were backing off on both these storms and now have flip flopped back to rain from both....Euro did better....GFS was way off and now both agree. 536DM is pretty low for even my neck of the woods. And that previous weak/very weak cutoff low by Baja is coming to San Diego instead of a east turn to Arizona and forecasters now calling it "impressive" and it is the weaker of the 2 forecast storms. Perhaps the models will meet right in the middle and give us back to back to back weekly storms! 2.8" from last storm and another 1-3" from the current 2 forecast would be awesome! Bring it on! It ain't raining until I see my Indian acorn grinding rock fill with water....as in I don't count my chickens before they hatch!
From The Washington Post:

Outgoing EPA chief: Science is ‘fundamental to absolutely everything we do.’


Environmental Protection Agency chief Gina McCarthy was a key architect of a plan to require reductions in greenhouse gas emissions from the nation’s power plants by an average of 30 percent from 2005 levels. The effort is mired in the federal courts. (Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg News)

[...]

As she prepares to leave office, McCarthy sat down with The Washington Post to discuss the accomplishments and frustrations of her tenure. She reflected on the water crisis in Flint, Mich., the importance of continued domestic and global leadership on climate change and the need to protect the integrity of the science at EPA and other federal agencies. The exchange that follows has been edited for length and clarity:

[...]

TWP: [...] I’d like to talk about the role of science, because there’s been a lot of talk about that in recent days and worries whether the next administration will rely on science, will trust the science, will protect scientists. From your perspective, what role does science play at EPA?

McCarthy: Science is everything. Almost every action we take is bounded by what the science tells us. It’s based on a factual record of where the world is today and what is our obligation under our mission. Science needs to be protected. Any effort to undermine that science in a way that would give undue influence to folks that aren’t scientists is a really big problem.

But it’s not just for EPA. You can’t selectively say, “I’ve decided I don’t like the science on climate, so let’s find a way to revisit that,” without saying, “I’m revisiting the way the United States of America and, frankly, every country does science.” It’s something that people need to watch and protect. In this agency, if we’re asked who worked on climate change, I have a list of 15,000-plus people. Because everybody in this agency, one way or another, has touched the issue of climate.

Why wouldn’t something like climate change, which impacts everything we do, not be on everybody’s agenda? It’s just important for people to remember that the career staff were hired for their scientific credentials, and our job is to make sure that their integrity is maintained.

TWP: Can you illustrate an example or two … where you’d be lost without the scientific basis?

McCarthy: It’s fundamental to how we do clean air. I need to understand how dirty air hurts individuals to know what clean air looks like and what the goals are we should be moving toward. If I don’t have science, I don’t have anything. It is fundamental to absolutely everything we do.

The amount of science that goes into an Energy Star label, it’s enormous. For us to actually evaluate appliances and to tell people the greenhouse gas reductions achieved through those but also the energy savings and costs — it’s changed appliances forever.

[...]

Click here to read full article
The winter solstice is so simple a caveman could figure it out, and probably did. I'll explain. A caveman stumbles upon a cave. The cave entrance is facing due south. The caveman lives in the northern hemisphere in the mid latitudes. He found the cave in the summer. It was cool and void of the summer sun's rays. He makes it his home. After months of living in the cave, one afternoon while sitting in his cave picking flees, the sun suddenly shines in his face. BAM! At that very moment, he is blinded by science. The sun never shined through the cave before. The caveman knew the sun would rise and set everyday, but this was different, the sun had moved in a totally new way. The caveman starts to notice the sun gets lower each day and shines deeper into the cave. He notices the shadows also move inside the cave. Caveman starts marking the shadow lines within the cave, and in doing so, he has just become the very first scientist. 

Caveman scientist sees that the sun continues to get lower and lower in the sky day by day, until one day the "sun stands still". For a couple days he sees no movement in the sun or the shadows until about three days later when suddenly the shadows start moving back the other way. He sees that the sun is rising again. Caveman scientist also starts looking at the night sky and sees that the stars move and change too. Soon caveman scientist knows when to start preparing for winter just buy looking at shadows and the night sky. The rest is scientific history. Well, maybe I should mention that whole religion thing and the human sacrifices, including women and children, and the senseless killings that continue till this very fargin day, but I won't.
Please,Try the Pecan Pie.

Video not available in your country.

? Both Lorne Michaels and Carey are Canadians.

SMH
Re: #18


Quoting 22. Xandra:

Re: #18




That's priceless
I dont have a degree. Never attended College.

My 11 years here have taught me how to find actual Data.

Science,..the art of reason,logic dictate my flow thru the years.

But the most worrisome trend within the overall Climate Modeling of the future, is my tracking and graphing how the actual obs and trends now, are out pacing the model consensus,even with the wide 3 model scenario.

The unknown forcings are popping up Globally,esp so at the Poles.

I use the devianart hydra for this ominous metaphor.

The warming continues, globally..

unabated.

Buckle up, the new admin is going to create Havoc on all Climate fronts.

Quoting 12. daddyjames:

%u2018Everyone was stunned': Snow falls in Sahara desert town for first time in 37 years
Jason Samenow December 21
Snow on the dunes near Ain Sefra, Algeria, on Dec. 19. (Karim Bouchetata)


Absolutely stunning photos too! (barbamz may have already told us about this, but I missed it).

No, I haven't, Daddy :-) And thanks for the info. Great photos!
And thanks for the new entry on Christmas weather as well, Bob. Neither a white Christmas for my place in Germany this year, that's sure now.

I was just checking out this odd leap in evolution which just took place on UK's meadows, lol.
Electric sheep help battle the elements
BBC video, 21st December 2016 Last updated at 11:08
Nick Miller investigates how electric sheep which monitor the weather will help farmers improve their flocks

And here evolution is getting undone, sadly:
Gone: endemic Baikal sponge has died completely in several areas of the vast lake
Siberian Times, by Olga Gertcyk, 20 December 2016
Vital for making its waters so 'pure', one theory is that rising underwater methane leaks are killing off the sponge, but is there a silver lining?


Baikal sponge of 5-7 centimetres cleanses per day up to 20 litres of water from bacteria and different minerals. Picture: KFU
And a very nice snow maker for the Sierra's (20"-36") and Peninsular Ranges (6"-12") of Soo Cal

Quoting 4. blueyedbiker:

Let me guess, This topic will turn into a Climate Change issue soon. SMH


As it should........SMH!
Quoting 20. gr8lakebreeze:

Please,Try the Pecan Pie.

Video not available in your country.

? Both Lorne Michaels and Carey are Canadians.

SMH

YT: Jim Carrey debuts his Halloween costume, Helvis, and performs an original song about loving pecan pie

Quoting 9. LAbonbon:


I hope you get it, Joe. Here it's looking like snow. Excerpt from NWS-SLC's HWO:

DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY

A WEAKENING STORM SYSTEM OFF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA COAST WILL LIFT
NORTHEAST INTO ARIZONA THURSDAY...SPREADING MOUNTAIN SNOW AND
VALLEY RAIN AND SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF SOUTHERN AND EASTERN UTAH
THURSDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT.

A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT STORM WILL AFFECT MUCH OF THE OUTLOOK
AREA DURING THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND
. HOLIDAY TRAVEL IMPACTS COULD
BEGIN AS EARLY AS SATURDAY AFTERNOON...WITH THE GREATEST IMPACTS
SATURDAY NIGHT AS SNOW DEVELOPS OVER MOST OF THE OUTLOOK AREA.
SNOW WILL CONTINUE INTO CHRISTMAS DAY...THEN TURN SHOWERY AND
REMAIN MAINLY OVER THE HIGHER TERRAIN SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY
MONDAY.


Yes, Best chance for me at my elevation of 3,500 feet will be Sat am/pm after the front goes through and the cold air comes in with wraparound moisture from the low. The forecast is for snow level of 3,000-3.500 feet Sat pm. Will not be a lot of moisture left but maybe a 2-3 inch dusting that will last into Christmas Day! I usually get snow 1-4 times per year as winter storms in Soo Cal usually have a snow level above 4,000. Here's hoping!

Got the street wet.....
The Weather Company tops new analysis of forecast accuracy


Now if they can only figure out how they could display this information reliably to people on the internet (just got rainbowed).
An Army of Roaches are the Next Frontier of Disaster Relief Opens to a video.

When disaster strikes, we need as many creative strategies to help save people lives as possible. File this under really creative: outfitting an army of roaches with electronic backpacks who can locate people trapped in rubble.

Imagining roaches coming to the rescue is not as warm and fuzzy as Lassie is. Leave me to die, if this becomes reality.


Drone Footage Captures Beijing’s Choking Smog
WED, DEC 21

Video from high above the Chinese capital captures the shrouded city landscape.


Environmental campaigners have dubbed Beijing's smog as "air apocalypse" and planes have struggled to land due to the toxic cloud engulfing the city.


Doom Patrick, planet-wide doom, everywhere'..







21.6 degrees F lower than historical norms on Sat-Sun...........probably why they are calling for snow at my place.

Quoting 32. daddyjames:

An Army of Roaches are the Next Frontier of Disaster Relief Opens to a video.

When disaster strikes, we need as many creative strategies to help save people lives as possible. File this under really creative: outfitting an army of roaches with electronic backpacks who can locate people trapped in rubble.

Imaging roaches coming to the rescue is not as warm and fuzzy as Lassie is. Leave me to die, if this becomes reality.


Future protein source.....LOL
Quoting 28. Xandra:


YT: Jim Carrey debuts his Halloween costume, Helvis, and performs an original song about loving pecan pie




"The uploader has not made this video available in your country".

:(
Quoting 35. HurricaneHunterJoe:



Future protein source.....LOL


Ewww-gross
No idea how I missed this:
Skeptoid did an episode on AGW last week.


If you not familiar with it, its format is a short and sweet skeptical breakdown of a different topic each week-ish. Its the good stuff.
No pesky EPA in China , and none here either -

Air Pollution Forces People Out Of India's Capital

New Delhi's citizens are increasingly voting with their feet and leaving the city in search for less polluted air. India's capital is thought to have some of the world's most polluted air.

NPR Audio 4:45 min.
White Christmas, is that a fossil from the preindustrial times? Traditionally, my town should have white Christmas with 90% probability. (Defined by at least 1 cm of snow cover.) IIRC, now it's going to be sixth successive black Christmas, according to forecast.

Quoting 13. RobertWC:



How about making bets on whether Santa's workshop will melt through the ice ?


It can't, since the workshop is located at Korvatunturi ;)

Quoting 16. georgevandenberghe:



This would be the "Santa Swimming" betting pool. THe first time that the latitude 89 and poleward circle is completely ice free. Alternatively the "Straight North Passage", up the meridian line from Europe, North over the Pole then due south through the Bering Strait with no ice within 20 miles either side of the route. I expect both to occur within 15 years.


My bet: The American imaginary North Pole Santa swims on August 20, 2017. And Straight North Passage happens first on September 10, 2020. :P
Trump says energy regulations are hurting economic growth. The evidence says otherwise.

Far from being a prohibitive drag on economic growth, decarbonization, or making the way that we get energy less dependent on burning fossil fuels that release carbon emissions, has gone hand-in-hand with output growth in most of the United States, according to research by the Brookings Institution. From 2000 to 2015, U.S. GDP grew by 30 percent though emissions declined by 10 percent.

Link
Might be white Christmas, but trade will go on.
Smaller carbon footprint shipping over the north pole to the UK
Quoting 324. RobertWC:

From the " Daily Fail "-



Russia goes nuclear to the North Pole: Reactor-powered ice-breaker will spearhead race to control Arctic in wake of global warming
The craft, which has been named 'Leader', is designed to keep the Northern Sea Route open all year round
The plans were unveiled by Dmitry Rogozin, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia
It would be capable of ploughing through ice that is two metres (6.6 feet) thick at a speed of 29 kph (18 mph)
Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season



Read more: It would have a working capacity of 110 megawatts and would be capable of cutting through ice up to 4.5 metres (14.8 feet) deep.

Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season.


It's the small things that will gain the upper hand first -

Bacteria, Methane, and Other Dangers Within Siberia’s Melting Permafrost

FOR HUNDREDS OF thousands of years, the Siberian permafrost has been a giant freezer for everything buried within it. But global warming has put the frozen ground in defrost mode, and the tundra is now heating up twice as fast as the rest of the planet. “Permafrost is a silent ticking time bomb,” says Robert Spencer, an environmental scientist at Florida State University. As it thaws, the dirt could release a litany of horrors. Beware: The ice-beasts cometh.

Link
Quoting 40. elioe:

White Christmas, is that a fossil from the preindustrial times? Traditionally, my town should have white Christmas with 90% probability. (Defined by at least 1 cm of snow cover.) IIRC, now it's going to be sixth successive black Christmas, according to forecast.



It can't, since the workshop is located at Korvatunturi ;)



My bet: The American imaginary North Pole Santa swims on August 20, 2017. And Straight North Passage happens first on September 10, 2020. :P


Santa Swims Sept 3, 2020. Straight North passage Sept 1, 2024.


india also looking very smoggy today :(
Quoting 324. RobertWC:

From the " Daily Fail "-



Russia goes nuclear to the North Pole: Reactor-powered ice-breaker will spearhead race to control Arctic in wake of global warming
The craft, which has been named 'Leader', is designed to keep the Northern Sea Route open all year round
The plans were unveiled by Dmitry Rogozin, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia
It would be capable of ploughing through ice that is two metres (6.6 feet) thick at a speed of 29 kph (18 mph)
Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season


Read more: It would have a working capacity of 110 megawatts and would be capable of cutting through ice up to 4.5 metres (14.8 feet) deep.

Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season.


--------- end quote ------


Shipping through pack ice even with a hardened ship is extremely dangerous. If a lead opens up and a ship enters it, pack ice from the two sides can close in and crush the ship.
Quoting 32. daddyjames:

An Army of Roaches are the Next Frontier of Disaster Relief Opens to a video.

When disaster strikes, we need as many creative strategies to help save people lives as possible. File this under really creative: outfitting an army of roaches with electronic backpacks who can locate people trapped in rubble.

Imagining roaches coming to the rescue is not as warm and fuzzy as Lassie is. Leave me to die, if this becomes reality.


Robbie! Robbie! You and 100,000 of your closest friends. Timmy is in trouble. Get help!
Thank you for the blog to the writers of it.
The UK, or more from our point of view "the cold damp island," is more known for rain, fog, winds, storms, and general background permanent cold.
They seldom suffer from a lot of snow other than in the far north of Scotland where in reality few people are tough enough to live there.
Normally its just cold, wet and miserable with most of the people I know lurking beneath blankets for warmth until the cold subsides, usually about May from my memory of the place. Most of the people I know there are so poor or "broke" as the British say that heating is a far distant luxury to be enjoyed as a pensioner, always assuming they survive that long and that they do live in the place to get their entitlement to the approximately $250 a year. (£200,UK)
I have to go to the place on Christmas Eve and venture into the far northern mountains near to the Scottish boarder to recover American tourists who have been investigating the place, against my advise of course at this time of the year.
Storms are forecast with high winds and probably endless rain, although it wont be cold and the snow stuff will stay away.

On the Spanish front, its about 15/C or 60F here at the moment in the days.
About 600 litres of rain fell to the square meter last week or about 25 inches to us who think imperial. This was mainly in the north Mediterranean coasts around Alicante to Valencia.
Probably another record as these things usually are?
Looking through dates of my snowy photos from Conwy, Wales - where I was living 2007-2011, and indeed have some from 17th-24th Dec 2010. The biggest snows on photos was Dec 23rd, and then the following month, 17th January 2011. The day of the above sat pic, looks like probably wasn't snow on the ground in Conwy. When we had these snows, locals said they hadn't seen snow like it in the 25 or 30 years that they were there. Conwy is right on the coast, along the rather, tepid Irish Sea, so doesn't usually get snow along the coast.
Those years stated were really good, and was another, 2013, was when I had moved down by Llanberis, and my old place above Llanrwst got snowed in for a few days just after I moved. I had to drive the A55 home at night to the new place, while deep in snow/slush, with big rigs barrelling past me, scary that. Even the Isle of Anglesey had a lot of snow.
Last few years since, has hardly even been much snow on Snowdonia, forget along the coastal strip. Had a very brief dusting one night last year, and that was about it. Colder this winter compared to the last few so far, so maybe some decent snow sometime.
This blog is basically non stop articles and comments bashing Trump. And it's understandable coming from a Global Warming/Climate Change perspective.

But a lot of people (tens of millions) in the U.S. are not thinking about Climate Change.
I thought this video helped put things in perspective for people that don't understand why someone would vote for Trump.

CNN's Van Jones Eyes Are Opened By White Obama Voters Who Voted Trump
Link
Quite a lot of devastation with the Spanish rainfalls of up to 25 inches over the last week.
Mud and general background disasters all over the place, areas that have not seen flooding in over 30 years are still under water!

Not quite sure what to make of all this as its going to be fine for a while but then again its only the end of December and we normally get most of the rain after the new year here.

Britain is entering a warm phase and I'll keep an eye out there next week as I'll have Internet with me I'll report in on the place.

May Santa no leave anyone coal ( fossil fuel )
"There are some upon this earth of yours," returned the Spirit, "who lay claim to know us, and who do their deeds of passion, pride, ill-will, hatred, envy, bigotry, and selfishness in our name; who are as strange to us and all our kith and kin, as if they had never lived. Remember that, and charge their doings on themselves, not us."

49. mitthbevnuruodo and
48. PlazaRed

One of the long term good things about the web is that people like me who will never see Wales , or the Spanish South, can be taken there in a few short paragraphs by people like you two, many thanks, Merry Solstice.

Aren't there some pagan rituals involving virgins later tonight ?
If not, here's one from the Lewis and Clark journals.

The Buffalo Bull Dance -
The first winter the Corps of Discovery was out, they built a fort near the Mandan Villages on the Upper Missouri River above present day Bismark North Dakota. . It was well and truly cold that winter. -40 F degrees. On the first Full Moon in January, The Buffalo Bull Dance - was held. It's purpose was to draw the buffalo herds nearer to the villages. As part of the festivities , the young maidens slept with the old men in the villages. And with the new comers who had showed up that Fall. Needless to say, this made a great impression of everyone in the Expedition , and most of all York, Clark's slave, who he had grown up with. York was the first black man ever go up the Missouri. He, and 16 year old girl , are 2 reasons why the they made the whole trip.

On the first Full Moon in January,
This called " The Dead of Winter. " It was always the peak of our old hippy festivities in the 70's.
Speaking as pagan.





Thank you for bringing back the rss feed for Jeff's blog:
http://rss.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/rss. xml

It had been shutdown back on 3/23/2016 coming live 12/16/2016

This is a great aid to the visually impaired as well as getting the word out to a much larger community.
Quoting 50. Sfloridacat5:

This blog is basically non stop articles and comments bashing Trump. And it's understandable coming from a Global Warming/Climate Change perspective.

But a lot of people (tens of millions) in the U.S. are not thinking about Climate Change.
I thought this video helped put things in perspective for people that don't understand why someone would vote for Trump.

CNN's Van Jones Eyes Are Opened By White Obama Voters Who Voted Trump
Link



great video, van jones is doing an amazing job try to bridge the divide between trump voters, and everyone else. however the fact that so many people don't care about climate change is problematic. i know myself, and many others on here are consistently online and in their daily lives trying to convince people of the seriousness of climate change. i wish i knew the perfect way to do that, but i think it does start with at least listening to trump voters who dont care about climate change, and not bashing them but as simply was one can, trying to explain the science behind climate change.
Quoting 46. georgevandenberghe:

Quoting 324. RobertWC:

From the " Daily Fail "-



Russia goes nuclear to the North Pole: Reactor-powered ice-breaker will spearhead race to control Arctic in wake of global warming
The craft, which has been named 'Leader', is designed to keep the Northern Sea Route open all year round
The plans were unveiled by Dmitry Rogozin, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia
It would be capable of ploughing through ice that is two metres (6.6 feet) thick at a speed of 29 kph (18 mph)
Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season


Read more: It would have a working capacity of 110 megawatts and would be capable of cutting through ice up to 4.5 metres (14.8 feet) deep.

Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season.


--------- end quote ------


Shipping through pack ice even with a hardened ship is extremely dangerous. If a lead opens up and a ship enters it, pack ice from the two sides can close in and crush the ship.


And this is going to be a much, much, much, more active ocean than the past . The East Siberian Shelf is going to be out gassing ever larger methane plumes. I can see a day, on one of these 300,000 tonne Gas Tankers following their Star Wars Ice breaker , sails into a huge cloud of methane sitting on the surface of the ocean, because of a temperature inversion. The explosion will be heard in Moscow. Some crew man with a Bic lighter.
Looks like the Philippines are in for a typhoon late this weekend. Possible Category 2/3 at landfall. Lets hope it doesn't get any stronger then that. Sadly not looking like a good Christmas with 30W (Nock-Ten) for that part of the world.









60. bwi
Rain for Minneapolis on Christmas night.
Noting Bob at post 54.
"One of the long term good things about the web is that people like me who will never see Wales , or the Spanish South, can be taken there in a few short paragraphs by people like you two, many thanks, Merry Solstice."

2 weeks ago at sunrise I flew over the mountains of southern Greenland in an old BA 747. I was glued to the window to the point of a frozen neck.
One of the things out of all the things I see and have seen that I will not only never forget but will recount to countless others, some of which might not yet even be born to see; what I saw 2 weeks ago!

Tonight at 6.10 pm the sun set over the western mountain ranges of Grazalema in Southern Spain, it was the solstice, I was alone but it was probably seen by millions "alone and together."
Like a leaf upon a breeze, we pass this way but once.
Going to be near 80 this weekend here in the Big Easy. Been riding a weather rollercoaster for weeks now. I have arthritis and this up and down crap is killing me. I fair much better in warm weather put I think the air pressure has something do with it as well.
Severe geomagnetic storm occurring, cloudy here of course.


Quoting 50. Sfloridacat5:

But a lot of people (tens of millions) in the U.S. are not thinking about Climate Change.


I quote Lone Wati one more time -
"Get ready little lady, Hell is comin' to breakfast"

Everybody around Baton Rouge is teachable now. One who doubts this, becomes very teachable when their laptop, and their AR-15 is packed with mud.

Van Jones is on a fools errand, Obama came to power with the same message. How did that work out ?

These people met on Jan. 20 2009, and vowed to stop everything he proposed. And they went at it tooth and nail.

This is the richest most right wing government in the history of the world coming to power. Me bonding with an out of work coal miner in West Virginia, ain't gonna change that. Witch became the Reddest State in this cycle. But this came over the wires today -
Drug Wholesalers Shipped 780M Pain Pills to West Virginia

You think the Great Cheetoe is going to stop this ? I've got a condo in Aleppo for you . it's fixer upper. low down pay

Quoting 53. Patrap:

"There are some upon this earth of yours," returned the Spirit, "who lay claim to know us, and who do their deeds of passion, pride, ill-will, hatred, envy, bigotry, and selfishness in our name; who are as strange to us and all our kith and kin, as if they had never lived. Remember that, and charge their doings on themselves, not us."


But what I am doing, I will continue to do, that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their deeds -2 Corinthians 11:12-15.
From Electrek:

USA installs record amount of solar power – 191% growth – ignoring Trump’s ‘Chinese Hoax’



In the 3rd quarter of 2016, the United States installed 4,143 MW of solar power per a report released by Greentech Media’s Research Team – 191% greater than Q3’15. This volume represents the largest quarter in US history, even larger than the historically largest 4th quarters during the prior decade. Q1+Q2+Q3 of 2016 have already surpassed all of 2015’s total install amount. The 4th quarter is expected to be even larger – leading to 2016 overall being 88% greater than 2015. It looks like Americans installing solar power and the Department of Energy are turning their nose up to Donald Trump’s Chinese Hoax.

[...]

Roughly, the total solar power industry will be worth about $21 billion in 2016 in the United States – an industry that will directly employee 250,000 people soon (with another 610,000 secondarily supported jobs). I hope Donald Trump realizes that 1 million Americans – people on roofs, engineers, sales people, warehouse managers, truck drivers, master electricians and so many more – are not going to quietly leave the searing high noon that we now own.

[...]

Click here to read full article.
A predatory capitalism takes hold.

When one ships this into one of the poorest parts of our country :

Drug Wholesalers Shipped 780M Pain Pills to West Virginia

This entire free market will solve everything idea breaks down . And predatory capitalism takes hold. Much like Nigeria. they have the sweetest crude on Earth. No one makes better gasoline . We love it. Their world is a hell hole. And a predatory capitalism takes hold.

No wonder he won in West Virginia ,


But this came over the wires today -
Drug Wholesalers Shipped 780M Pain Pills to West Virginia

You think the Great Cheetoe is going to stop this ? I've got a condo in Aleppo for you . it's fixer upper. low down pay




Unfortunately CB I fear there is growing sentiment for a Duterte type solution, reading the comments in this article and especially others from articles in the Philippines on this topic are very disheartening. I for one don't welcome an authoritarian future.
Quoting 69. gr8lakebreeze:

But this came over the wires today -
Drug Wholesalers Shipped 780M Pain Pills to West Virginia

You think the Great Cheetoe is going to stop this ? I've got a condo in Aleppo for you . it's fixer upper. low down pay

Unfortunately CB I fear there is growing sentiment for a Duterte type solution, reading the comments in this article and especially others from articles in the Philippines on this topic are very disheartening. I for one don't welcome an authoritarian future.
West Virginia's population dropped by 10,000 between 2015 and 2016 to 1,831,000. Click top table. That's 426 prescription pain pills per year for every inhabitant of West Virginia, man, woman and child.
Quoting Bob at 64:-
I quote Lone Wati one more time -
"Get ready little lady, Hell is comin' to breakfast"

Going to be one "Hell" of a fry up but for the main course later its going to be a simple bar-b-cue!

Our Spanish desert just got about 20 inches of rain.
The Northern Sahara just got snowfall laying on the ground.
Big storms coming in over the North Atlantic.
Snowing a lot on and off north of Vancouver,
Dense fogs in central France and Spain. lots of bad air pollution.
And! these are only the things I have been personally experiencing over the last month.
Damm it all, I'm supposed to be retired?
Makes it difficult to justify travelling to work anymore, I'm going to stop soon.
There's no Romeo (Rue-more) in the truth. time to revert to being a musician yet again.

White and happy Christmas to everybody.

Maybe explains why so many people voted for the #Trumpster - they were so out of it he looked like a good option to solve ALL their problems.

Quoting 68. RobertWC:

A predatory capitalism takes hold.

When one ships this into one of the poorest parts of our country :

Drug Wholesalers Shipped 780M Pain Pills to West Virginia

This entire free market will solve everything idea breaks down . And predatory capitalism takes hold. Much like Nigeria. they have the sweetest crude on Earth. No one makes better gasoline . We love it. Their world is a hell hole. And a predatory capitalism takes hold.

No wonder he won in West Virginia ,



The Snowflake man of Vermont: Farmer and amateur weather buff Wilson Bentley made and published the first micrographs of snowflakes on January 15, 1885, at age 20. He published more than 5,000 micrographs of snowflakes by his death in 1931.

Socrates to Grothar "True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing." 399 b.c. 2:34 PM

Grothar to Socrates "I'm telling you, don't drink that kool-aid!" 399 b.c. 2:35 PM

They rest is history, as we well might be.




Pilgrims landed at Plymouth today 1620. They were lucky--although many died during the winter, the winter was unusually mild. The painting depicts southeastern Massachusetts as more mountainous than I remember ;)

The Battle of the Billionaires has begun.
Quoting 74. Grothar:

Socrates to Grothar "True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing." 399 b.c. 2:34 PM

Grothar to Socrates "I'm telling you, don't drink that kool-aid!" 399 b.c. 2:35 PM

They rest is history, as we well might be.






socrates to Grother:-
He who watches time, neglects his destiny.
He who abandons his future, is frozen in the past's of others!
PS, "Take note!"
Sunstay, sunstead, standing of the sun: some of the ways 'solstice' has been written in English, from the OED. Which was Grothar's favorite term?

Quoting 50. Sfloridacat5:

This blog is basically non stop articles and comments bashing Trump. And it's understandable coming from a Global Warming/Climate Change perspective.

But a lot of people (tens of millions) in the U.S. are not thinking about Climate Change.
I thought this video helped put things in perspective for people that don't understand why someone would vote for Trump.

CNN's Van Jones Eyes Are Opened By White Obama Voters Who Voted Trump
Link



why not have "both"- smash it into one?
A description of the winter solstice, 'winterlica sunstede', in Old English, late 8th century AD. Ah, there it is in the earliest known sample of Grothar's handwriting ;)



Snow on Christmas day - video from Norway's Meteorologisk institutt:

Another illegal batch of rain(Per Herr Trump) is illegally crossing the border into Soo Cal

Winter Storm Warning
Issued: 12:17 PM PST Dec. 21, 2016 – National Weather Service

... Winter Storm Warning in effect from 10 am Friday to 4 PM PST
Saturday...

The National Weather Service in Reno has issued a Winter Storm
Warning for heavy snow, which is in effect from 10 am Friday to 4
PM PST Saturday. The Winter Storm Watch is no longer in effect.


* Timing: snow will move into the Tahoe basin Friday morning with
periods of heavy snow Friday afternoon through midday Saturday.

* Snow accumulations: 15 to 30 inches above 7000 feet, with 8 to
16 inches at lake level.

* Winds: southwest 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 40 mph. Sierra
ridge gusts up to 110 mph.

* Snow levels: below lake level.

* Impacts: very poor visibility with whiteout conditions likely
especially over the passes. Dangerous conditions for back
country activities and travel on highways 50, 88, 89, 207, 267,
the Mt rose Highway and Interstate 80.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

Now is the time to prepare an emergency kit for your home and
car. If traveling consider shifting your plans to before the
storm arrives on Friday or waiting until the storm passes.
Remember to carry tire chains, extra food, water and clothing.
Once the storm arrives, travel may be difficult or impossible for
an extended period of time.
The Guardian is garbage and there are things in that letter that should be very concerning to any US Citizen. Using that as a true unbiased journalistic resource is no better than the Enquirer.
Quoting 78. BaltimoreBrian:

Sunstay, sunstead, standing of the sun: some of the ways 'solstice' has been written in English, from the OED. Which was Grothar's favorite term?




Sungihte. You better practice your Old English and don't confuse it with Anglo-Saxon. :)
Quoting 25. barbamz:


...Electric sheep help battle the elements...


Perhaps inspired by this?

Quoting 76. RobertWC:

The Battle of the Billionaires has begun.
They may be working together behind closed doors.
Quoting 86. luvtogolf:

The Guardian is garbage and there are things in that letter that should be very concerning to any US Citizen. Using that as a true unbiased journalistic resource is no better than the Enquirer.

That's a whole lot of assertion you've made there. Basic logic requires one to ask for supporting evidence before accepting your categorizations.
Blog go down for maintenance?
Quoting 85. oldnewmex:

Winter Storm Warning
Issued: 12:17 PM PST Dec. 21, 2016 – National Weather Service

... Winter Storm Warning in effect from 10 am Friday to 4 PM PST
Saturday...

The National Weather Service in Reno has issued a Winter Storm
Warning for heavy snow, which is in effect from 10 am Friday to 4
PM PST Saturday. The Winter Storm Watch is no longer in effect.


* Timing: snow will move into the Tahoe basin Friday morning with
periods of heavy snow Friday afternoon through midday Saturday.

* Snow accumulations: 15 to 30 inches above 7000 feet, with 8 to
16 inches at lake level.

* Winds: southwest 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 40 mph. Sierra
ridge gusts up to 110 mph.

* Snow levels: below lake level.

* Impacts: very poor visibility with whiteout conditions likely
especially over the passes. Dangerous conditions for back
country activities and travel on highways 50, 88, 89, 207, 267,
the Mt rose Highway and Interstate 80.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

Now is the time to prepare an emergency kit for your home and
car. If traveling consider shifting your plans to before the
storm arrives on Friday or waiting until the storm passes.
Remember to carry tire chains, extra food, water and clothing.
Once the storm arrives, travel may be difficult or impossible for
an extended period of time.


Enjoy!
Quoting 6. HurricaneHunterJoe:

Little lines of showers coming from the south into Soo Cal.....we will take it all!


It's pouring at the Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego, the commentators keep saying, "it never rains in San Diego" , lol.
Quoting 93. MahFL:



It's pouring at the Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego, the commentators keep saying, "it never rains in San Diego" , lol.


Will these storms make a dent in the drought?
Some early rainfall totals from Storm #1 as of 6pm.

Link
Quoting 48. PlazaRed:

Thank you for the blog to the writers of it.
The UK, or more from our point of view "the cold damp island," is more known for rain, fog, winds, storms, and general background permanent cold.


So annoying, it's a bit like Seattle, rain and temps in the 40's, rarely cold enough for snow. I was born there and lived there for 34 years...
Quoting 94. Qazulight:



Will these storms make a dent in the drought?


They don't hurt. I got 2.8" at my place from last weeks storm. We have 2 more storms on the way and it is raining at my place now with .18 so far. Forecasters calling for 1"-3" more rain. The more the merrier. Sierra's getting 20-36" of snow and Soo Cal mountains 6"-12" between now and Sunday. Everything getting that good greenish tinge out here in the mountains.
Quoting 94. Qazulight:



Will these storms make a dent in the drought?

Yes.
Quoting 93. MahFL:



It's pouring at the Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego, the commentators keep saying, "it never rains in San Diego" , lol.


They actually get freaked out when it's not 75-80 and sunny with a slight breeze......LOL
21 Dec 7:40 pm 46 44 94 S 7G13
21 Dec 7:30 pm 46 43 89 S 8G15

46 and raining at my place, nice steady light/moderate that will soak in well....RH 94% Winds southerly 7 gusts to 13. Rainfall Storm #1 so far is .34. Storm #2 is scheduled for Fri-Sat.
101. vis0
link RePost form ~2 days ago...
as usual my comments are roller coaster rides,  yet save barf bags for the  alt-right replies/comments.
 

Scientists Blast Antimatter Atoms With A Laser For The First Time | The Two-Way : NPR

 

psst yeah "U+" come here shhhhhhhhhhhh!

listen keep this to yerself but when they get the full laser treatment and use it to read the "vibrations" created when anti-matter comes in contact with uncky-matter

 

...oh wait just regular matter / matter (if that matters and its what they what to call it)...

 

shhh so again anti-matter comes in contact with matter when you see that flash of light trying telling them to read what happens HALF yes HALF a nano second before (no RazMaTaz that's not half a Mickey mouse second on yer iPod custom watch face)  its 10 NEGATIVE POWER of ~17. They'll notice resonance BEFORE the light yer creating a miniscule quasar/Nova to be exact and in the opposite manner you can use resonance to carry any element(s) via quantum light i.e. travel from NYC to Puerto Rico in 2secs ...luggage on Mars but you'll get it on Martes.  See you see the light ahead and that "sound" captures and encases it and in reverse you form U(light/resonance aka soul/spirit) back into the U (physical) Maybe Bill Nye can create a show Bachelor meets Bachelorette as in matter meets anti-matter where a rose is presented but changes into a t*rd (hey, its anti?!what matters) but then again i'm a nut


Now back to the more important task of reading all previous comments mentioned in  comment 58.

THINK an area that is to be the planets cold ion like filtration (south pole the other) is going to be saturated with so many types of pollutants (from man and from nature natural encasement of things that in being trapped allowed life on the planet to flourish/adapt  as it has(slowly but surely) now will be released  once sea shelf is broken the thick derp® soup to be made from blending warm tropical air masses with the "methane+" to be released will make the star of the Move "The Blob": look like bottled water which might go well with soylent green.

For those that say vis0 this is a lot to take i?

...huh!?
Compared to what the kids 5 generations from now will take in, IF WE STAY the (politically) crooked course my comment is the tip of the literal iceberg. 
THINK if one thinks "ah 5 generation is none of your business and a period of time no one should care/be concerned  about" .
Then the forefathers  (endless mothers) that busted their you know what turning out this country for the GOOD of all of humanity so that 8 EIGHT!!! generations later people of this country (USofA) could remain free to speak their mind.  As in to find ways for all opinions to be heard and tested as to their ability to sustain the desire of all without treading on the freedom of one while continuing to acquire knowledge through the experiences of life and through the teaching of the arts and sciences. Yet some to actually think that giving people less time/freedom and much more of a mess is best, does not make sense as it hurts all humans even those that only desire greed.
 Its amazing how lazy-brain makes the greedy and power hungry think that one can make more money by wasting  the limited natural resources when in reality using the abundant long-term reproducing natural resources (wind, solar. the more efficient forces of clean water) can make one much more money with much less overhead and one could be  (pun intended) filthy rich and no one would care 'cause that wealth comes from keeping Earth clean thus is not affecting the public health,   but instead be lazy brain and ruin the planet for the next time U come along...


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derp® a Patrap word that is proudly dished out as false news mainly by the alt-right/ human rights limiting - close minded groups as in Nazis



WEATHER:: not as cold this wkend as last weekend, unless you get the cold shoulder (from  buy the wrong gift)

 i gave WATSON a Box of riddles on why humanity behaves as it does,,,i have a feeling WATSON will predict TS amount at 99%, operate as a surgeon and solve the questions of the universe before it can explain present human decisions.
I'm guessing that weather forecasters actually had to work before the weather models were invented/first used. Would be interesting to see results.
WARNING......WARNING.......WARNING WILL ROBINSON.........THE COLUMN IS SATURATED!
104. vis0

Quoting 75. BaltimoreBrian:

Pilgrims landed at Plymouth today 1620. They were lucky--although many died during the winter, the winter was unusually mild. The painting depicts southeastern Massachusetts as more mountainous than I remember ;)


1st i think is tough voyage no tru detail maps and what no GPS?!.
2nd Dutch Masters.
3rd Should've called the natives for preTrip tips.

In the end they have the courage wish things blended much easier with natives yet we should learn from past experiences...hint hint Central and southern Americans are native Americans lets live to build knowledge not hate.
Quoting 54. RobertWC:

49. mitthbevnuruodo and
48. PlazaRed

One of the long term good things about the web is that people like me who will never see Wales , or the Spanish South, can be taken there in a few short paragraphs by people like you two, many thanks, Merry Solstice.

Aren't there some pagan rituals involving virgins later tonight ?
If not, here's one from the Lewis and Clark journals.

The Buffalo Bull Dance -
The first winter the Corps of Discovery was out, they built a fort near the Mandan Villages on the Upper Missouri River above present day Bismark North Dakota. . It was well and truly cold that winter. -40 F degrees. On the first Full Moon in January, The Buffalo Bull Dance - was held. It's purpose was to draw the buffalo herds nearer to the villages. As part of the festivities , the young maidens slept with the old men in the villages. And with the new comers who had showed up that Fall. Needless to say, this made a great impression of everyone in the Expedition , and most of all York, Clark's slave, who he had grown up with. York was the first black man ever go up the Missouri. He, and 16 year old girl , are 2 reasons why the they made the whole trip.

On the first Full Moon in January,
This called " The Dead of Winter. " It was always the peak of our old hippy festivities in the 70's.
Speaking as pagan.








Totally! I often end up going on Google street view after reading about somewhere :D

There is one every year in North Wales, a friend of mine always goes, someday I'll remember! Dunno if any virgins are involved LOL I'd love to go to Stonehenge for one as well, but seems a bit nightmarish for that one. The N. Wales one is a much smaller affair.
It's a ULL SW of San Diego but looks like a surface low with cold front. Has quite the reach these ULL's do, can change the flow for thousands of miles. This current one has a deep reach into the Tropical East Pacific Ocean........pretty impressive IMO!

9PM Storm #1 Rain Total thus far is .58 and has been raining since a little before 6pm.
Quoting 70. BaltimoreBrian:

West Virginia's population dropped by 10,000 between 2015 and 2016 to 1,831,000. Click top table. That's 426 prescription pain pills per year for every inhabitant of West Virginia, man, woman and child.

Not per year, that's for a 6-year period. So 70 per person per year. Still almost unbelievably high, though.
Happy Solstice from my new baby Christmas Cactus!

104 - vis0 - "...you can use resonance to carry any element(s) via quantum light i.e. travel from NYC to Puerto Rico in 2secs ...luggage on Mars but you'll get it on Martes."

vis - this cracked me up - love your posts :)


Flood Advisory
Flood Advisory
National Weather Service San Diego CA
1241 AM PST THU DEC 22 2016

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Orange CA-San Bernardino CA-Riverside CA-San Diego CA-
1241 AM PST THU DEC 22 2016

The National Weather Service in San Diego has issued a

* Urban and Small Stream Flood Advisory for...
Orange County in southwestern California...
San Bernardino County in southern California...
Riverside County in southern California...
San Diego County in southwestern California...

* Until 630 AM PST

* At 1235 AM PST, Doppler radar and automated rain gauges indicated
heavy rain was continuing across extreme SW California, including
San Diego, Orange County, and the Inland Empire. This will likely
cause urban and small stream flooding in many locations through
Thursday morning. Overflowing poor drainage areas will likely
result in minor flooding in the advisory area. Between one-half
to one inch of rain has already fallen as of midnight.

* Some locations that will likely experience flooding include...
Anaheim, Santa Ana, Riverside, Chula Vista, Irvine, San Bernardino,
Fontana, Moreno Valley, Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Oceanside,
Ontario, Corona, Orange and Fullerton.

Additional rainfall of one-half to one inch is expected over the
area through daybreak Thursday. This additional rain will likely
produce minor flooding of small streams, creeks, and poor
drainage areas such as city streets.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Turn around, don`t drown when encountering flooded roads. Most flood
deaths occur in vehicles.

Be especially cautious at night when it is harder to recognize the
dangers of flooding.

still showering off and on
cyclone nockton has formed in the nw pac. number wise #22 for 2016 for that region is typical. not sure about Ace though
sorry double checked nockton is the 24th w. pac storm in 2016
Quoting 69. gr8lakebreeze:

But this came over the wires today -
Drug Wholesalers Shipped 780M Pain Pills to West Virginia

You think the Great Cheetoe is going to stop this ? I've got a condo in Aleppo for you . it's fixer upper. low down pay




Unfortunately CB I fear there is growing sentiment for a Duterte type solution, reading the comments in this article and especially others from articles in the Philippines on this topic are very disheartening. I for one don't welcome an authoritarian future.


It's not like it's unexpected though. As Mark Twain said, history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. Populist thrive on stoking fear, anger, and hate. Reason and logic are discarded, and there are plenty of people willing to give up their morality and ideals in pursuit of influence and power. The people are willing to forgive just about anything in the name of their populist leaders (including flat out lying). The ends justify the means and all that.

It's never ended well. It's certainly not going to end well for the earth sciences.
Quoting 110. aquak9:

Happy Solstice from my new baby Christmas Cactus!




Ha ha!
119. bwi
Here's what that big storm is doing to ice on the Atlantic side. This should start showing up in the ice extent and area figures in the next couple days.



Quoting 117. Xyrus2000:



It's not like it's unexpected though. As Mark Twain said, history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme. Populist thrive on stoking fear, anger, and hate. Reason and logic are discarded, and there are plenty of people willing to give up their morality and ideals in pursuit of influence and power. The people are willing to forgive just about anything in the name of their populist leaders (including flat out lying). The ends justify the means and all that.

It's never ended well. It's certainly not going to end well for the earth sciences.
Anything that makes hundreds of millions will not be stopped, anyone trying to stop it will be stopped by the greedy and powerful...Edit...well,,not everybody...:)
121. bwi

#120

Well, dat dint happen in DAPL as the Veterans stopped that Pipeline route,along with Native Americans.

Never doubt the Power lies with the people.

Semper Fi'
Quoting 122. Patrap:

#120

Well, dat dint happen in DAPL as the Veterans stopped that Pipeline route,along with Native Americans.

Never doubt the Power lies with the people.

Semper Fi'
Greetings Pat...I added something to comment 120...And you are right , the power is with us...We have a lot of great people out there.
Quoting 122. Patrap:


I am worried about the incoming administration, though, regarding DAPL.
That is not any admin,,,its a Freak Show of wanton IGNORANCE.



You got that right, Pat.

The early snowfall and cold weather is being replaced with warm weather for Christmas; highs in the 40s and 50s, and rain on Christmas. It's still white around here, but it won't last.
Come January 20th, 2017..we will have the First sitting CnC who can destroy us all with 140 characters or less.

Think about dat fer a spell.

Quoting 124. ChiThom:



You should also be worried by the Federal Courts which have ruled in favor of the pipeline twice.
Quoting 58. RobertWC:



And this is going to be a much, much, much, more active ocean than the past . The East Siberian Shelf is going to be out gassing ever larger methane plumes. I can see a day, on one of these 300,000 tonne Gas Tankers following their Star Wars Ice breaker , sails into a huge cloud of methane sitting on the surface of the ocean, because of a temperature inversion. The explosion will be heard in Moscow. Some crew man with a Bic lighter.



Explosions require containment. The methane on the ocean surface will just burn. The LNG in pressurised tanks will explode when the tanks fail from external heating.

Otherwise.. What could go wrong???
Quoting 119. bwi:

Here's what that big storm is doing to ice on the Atlantic side. This should start showing up in the ice extent and area figures in the next couple days.






I'm usually pretty jaded and criticize people for using the word "unprecedented" to describe events with lots of precedents. However a 100+km poleward retreat of the ice edge in December over a 1000km length, is indeed incredible perhaps.. wait for it.. unprecedented since we've been taking observations.

Maybe someone here can help me as I'm getting zero assistance from WU. I have had continual slow loading, no loading, or finally Google Chrome killing the loading of WU. Today I get on and all of my favorite sites are in Europe and WU thinks I am in Sofia BU. I can get to other favorites by loading each one in at a time but can no longer click on them. 50% of the time I can't load this blog either. What is going on with WU? and why won't anyone even respond to a support question. I've changed nothing.
...and I say to myself, what a Wunderful Warming' World'




133. OKsky
Quoting 131. VAstorms:

Maybe someone here can help me as I'm getting zero assistance from WU. I have had continual slow loading, no loading, or finally Google Chrome killing the loading of WU. Today I get on and all of my favorite sites are in Europe and WU thinks I am in Sofia BU. I can get to other favorites by loading each one in at a time but can no longer click on them. 50% of the time I can't load this blog either. What is going on with WU? and why won't anyone even respond to a support question. I've changed nothing.


Sounds like you are getting routed thru a proxy. See if this site's output makes sense. If not, I would google up how to configure your proxy connections to investigate it. If that doesn't lead to anywhere I would start systematically uninstalling chrome extensions.
127. Patrap
3:14 PM GMT on December 22, 2016


I smell something fishy, and its not the snapper in the fridge...I believe he will get " fired " before the 4 years is up...jmo...:)
131. VAstorms

No support? They must be on vacation.

I had problems that were resolved by installing "Adblocker Plus" on my old mac.
Quoting 134. hydrus:

127. Patrap
3:14 PM GMT on December 22, 2016


I smell something fishy, and its not the snapper in the fridge...I believe he will get " fired " before the 4 years is up...jmo...:)


I agree. The Republican leadership would much prefer Pence and will look for ways to make that happen. jmo

131. VAstorms

I have been having the same issues, doesn't matter which browser I use. Problem is with WU.
Congrats to Dr. Mann.


Michael E. Mann
1 min ·
My Statement on Today's Appeals Court Decision Regarding My Defamation Suit Against The Competitive Enterprise Institute and The National Review
Quoting from the decision (http://www.dccourts.gov/i…/documents/14-CV-101_ 14-CV-126.pdf):
" [The defendants' statement that] Dr. Mann has engaged in misconduct has been so definitively discredited, a reasonable jury could, if it so chooses, doubt the veracity of appellants’ claimed honest belief in that very notion. A jury could find, by clear and convincing evidence, that appellants “in fact entertained serious doubts” or had a “high degree of awareness” that the accusations that Dr. Mann engaged in scientific misconduct, fraud, and deception, were false, and, as a result, acted “with reckless disregard” for the statements’ truth when they were published." (p. 101)

We are particularly pleased that the court, after performing an independent review of the evidence, found that the allegations against me have been 'definitively discredited'.

I am pleased by this unanimous decision of the court and we now look forward to presenting our claims of defamation to a jury.
Well, lol, I wonder whether this will work. If it does there would be a lot of new acreage for gardening available in the world ...
Madrid wants to put gardens on top of its buses
The Local (Spain), 20 December 2016, 12:25 CET+01:00
Madrid’s City Hall has unveiled plans to boost its green credentials and plant gardens on the rooftops of its buses and bus stops.
The unusual plan to tackle pollution and reduce C02 emissions will see portable gardens planted on the top of buses and bus stops across the city. Each garden will cost around €2,500 - less for the bus stops - and will involve special irrigation systems to avoid leakage. ...


Guten tag WU? Guten tag?
Quoting 140. washingaway:

Guten tag WU? Guten tag?

Guten Abend! :-)
A bit off topic, but interesting...from EOS:

It's Not Just Fracking: New Database of Human-Induced Quakes

How many earthquakes have human processes induced? Probably many more than we think, scientists indicated last week at American Geophysical Union’s Fall Meeting in San Francisco, Calif.

Just in the United States, the number of earthquakes per year in the center of the country has jumped dramatically since the early 2000s. According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), each year between 1973 and 2008, the central United States experienced about 21 earthquakes of magnitude 3 or higher. This number grew to almost 100 per year between 2009 and 2013. In 2014 alone, the region experienced more than 400 earthquakes.

In the past few years, scientists have begun to better understand the relationship between industrial processes and “induced” earthquakes. Recent media attention has zeroed in on fracking and wastewater injection, but earthquakes are also induced by the load of water impounded behind a dam, mining processes, and extracting groundwater for irrigation, among other causes.


Full article
Now it says Aloha, what part of the world will they send me next.
Quoting 139. barbamz:

Well, lol, I wonder whether this will work. If it does there would be a lot of new acreage for gardening available in the world ...
Madrid wants to put gardens on top of its buses
The Local (Spain), 20 December 2016, 12:25 CET+01:00
Madrid’s City Hall has unveiled plans to boost its green credentials and plant gardens on the rooftops of its buses and bus stops.
The unusual plan to tackle pollution and reduce C02 emissions will see portable gardens planted on the top of buses and bus stops across the city. Each garden will cost around €2,500 - less for the bus stops - and will involve special irrigation systems to avoid leakage. ...





Cool idea, but one has to wonder how much the extra weight from the plants/irrigation/growth medium is going to effect the gas mileage. Could be increasing CO2 emissions rather than reducing it....
Related to my earlier post, an AGU blog has a good (and easy to understand) article about differentiating natural vs. man-made earthquakes in Utah:

New study differentiates between Utah's natural and induces earthquakes

Mining activity caused nearly half of all earthquakes in Utah over the past three decades, according to a new study. By studying the epicenters of 6,846 earthquakes occurring in the state between 1982 and 2016, scientists at the University of Utah determined 3,957 of them occurred naturally and 2,889 were caused by coal mining. Read more


Map of the epicenters of 6,846 earthquakes occurring in Utah from 1982 and 2016. Those depicted in red were naturally caused tectonic plates, whereas coal mining caused those in blue.
Credit: Keith Koper.

Link to original research published in Geophysical Research Letters (paywalled, unfortunately)
Quoting 143. washingaway:

Now it says Aloha, what part of the world will they send me next.


I have been getting such greetings from WU for the past few months now. I saw it as WU encouraging me to learn new languages. I can now say "Good day" in 47 different languages. ;)
Bonjour now
Hello! I'm back
Quoting 131. VAstorms:

Maybe someone here can help me as I'm getting zero assistance from WU. I have had continual slow loading, no loading, or finally Google Chrome killing the loading of WU. Today I get on and all of my favorite sites are in Europe and WU thinks I am in Sofia BU. I can get to other favorites by loading each one in at a time but can no longer click on them. 50% of the time I can't load this blog either. What is going on with WU? and why won't anyone even respond to a support question. I've changed nothing.


And I wouldn't change anything. It is on WU's end. I had that issue the other day and then it went away, But it is back again. Just chill and don't change stuff. It will get fixed. Like someone said they maybe on vacation....
Quoting 148. washingaway:

Hello! I'm back

Hola! :D (might want to check it again)
Quoting 131. VAstorms:

Maybe someone here can help me as I'm getting zero assistance from WU. I have had continual slow loading, no loading, or finally Google Chrome killing the loading of WU. Today I get on and all of my favorite sites are in Europe and WU thinks I am in Sofia BU. I can get to other favorites by loading each one in at a time but can no longer click on them.

This bug with favorites being replaced by European cities is suppose to be fixed. Looked like people will have to log out and log back in to get their favorites back however.
We may be under a cyber attack,,as all my Favs disappear and these fall in at the top instead.
Photos & VideoActivitiesMore

Guten Tag, Patrap

Sofia, BU
34 F Partly Cloudy

Plovdiv, BU
36 F Overcast

Veliko Tarnovo, BU
37 F Partly Cloudy

Moscow, RS
32 F Overcast

Warsaw, PL
28 F Clear

Prague, CZ
27 F Overcast

London, UK
46 F Clear

Barcelona, SP
54.1 F Clear

Paris/de Gaulle Arpt, FR
45 F Mostly Cloudy

Istanbul, TU
43 F Light Rain Showers

Miami, FL
80.5 F Mostly Cloudy

Los Angeles, CA
55.1 F Rain


%u25BC
WunderBlog
Interesting weather ahead for northwestern Europe with storm Barbara!

Current SYNOPSIS and DISCUSSION from Estofex for tomorrow (forecaster Tuschy).
Progressive wave train affects N-Europe, as numerous strong troughs move east. Ridging to the south builds into SW and CNTRL Europe and keeps the weather rather calm convective-wise. A quasi-stationary cut-off over SE-Europe brings unsettled conditions to the Aegean Sea and Turkey.
[...]
An intense extratropical cyclone between Iceland and Scotland features a pronounced warm seclusion with intense LL winds along a back-bent occlusion grazing far NW Scotland during the forecast. Negative LIs in 700 hPa to the south of the occlusion with 30-35 m/s LL winds point to an enhanced severe wind gust potential with maritime convection and a level 1 was issued.
This depression pushes a cold front over Ireland before noon and over UK until 18 UTC. A narrow cold-frontal rainband (NCFR) may evolve with swaths of enhanced wind gusts (850 hPa flow in excess of 25 m/s). This activity remains too shallow and probably non-electrified. Hence no lightning area was issued. However, some higher resolved models indicate a time-frame, where NCFR-structure could be organized enough for a more organized severe wind gust threat. For this area, a level 1 was issued.
Thunderstorm probabilities increase west of CNTRL Norway beyond 00 UTC. 25 m/s near boundary layer flow points to strong/ isolated severe wind gusts with stronger convection.



(Click to enlarge). Edit: I think this loop nicely shows the "pronounced warm seclusion" (green colored core) already of the next storm, following Barbara on Sunday, as it should head the same way towards Norway and beyond.

Source of the loop with more info and maps:
Storm Barbara Is On Her Way
netweather.tv, by Matt Hugo, Published on 22nd December 2016 09:11

Unfortunately the fsu server with the cyclone phase evolution site is currently down. :-(
Quoting 152. Patrap:

We may be under a cyber attack,,as all my Favs disappear and these fall in at the top instead.
Photos & VideoActivitiesMore

Guten Tag, Patrap

Sofia, BU
34 �F Partly Cloudy

Plovdiv, BU
36 �F Overcast

Veliko Tarnovo, BU
37 �F Partly Cloudy

Moscow, RS
32 �F Overcast

Warsaw, PL
28 �F Clear

Prague, CZ
27 �F Overcast

London, UK
46 �F Clear

Barcelona, SP
54.1 �F Clear

Paris/de Gaulle Arpt, FR
45 �F Mostly Cloudy

Istanbul, TU
43 �F Light Rain Showers

Miami, FL
80.5 �F Mostly Cloudy

Los Angeles, CA
55.1 �F Rain


%u25BC
WunderBlog�

I was affraid of that
Quoting 152. Patrap:

We may be under a cyber attack..

It was a bug, suppose to fixed but it may be having a resurgence.. Not everyone has been being affected by it either.
So I have assumed my alter ego . . .

Comes with a theme song for the next few (four? eight?) years.

"I can't read about it, burns the skin from your eyes
I'll do fine without it, here's one you don't compromise
Lies come hard to disguise
Let me to fight it out, not wild about it
Lay your seedy judgements, who says they're part of our lives?
You own the money, you control the witness
I hear you're lonely, don't monkey with my business
You pay the profits to justify the reasons
I heard your promise but I don't believe it
That's why I'll do it again
No-no-notorious
Girls will keep the secrets, so long as boys make the noise
Fools run rings to break up, something they'll never destroy
Grand notorious slam, (bam) and who really gives a damn
For a flaky bandit?
Don't ask me to bleed about it, I need this blood to survive
You own the money, you control the witness
I hear you're lonely, don't monkey with my business
You pay the profits to justify the reasons
I heard your promise but I don't believe it
That's why I'll do it again"

To all to which it applies: A Merry Christmas and a glorious New Year

Quoting 155. Skyepony:


It was a bug, suppose to fixed but it may be having a resurgence.. Not everyone has been being affected by it either.



I've been getting the European cities "bug" for a few days. Do not attempt to manually remove the cities, as they will come back next time you log in...Learned the hard way.
Weather forecast for the north of England into the whole of Scotland for Friday night until Saturday mid day, is for very strong winds and stormy conditions. Winds up to about 70 MPH, 110 KPH.
Power cuts are expected caused by downed power lines.
Good afternoon all. I haven't been on for a bit; trying to get ready for Christmas, but I wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Boxing Day and a Joyous Festivus!
In the last week we have received over 2" of rain which has doubled the amount we have received for the water year (4.10")
Quoting 160. PedleyCA:

In the last week we have received over 2" of rain which has doubled the amount we have received for the water year (4.10")

At this rate Ped, you will be able to invent MUD soon.
Oh, boy. :-( Off topic unless it's a plan to combat GW, *cough*. I'm already shivering, no joke:
Donald Trump: US must greatly expand nuclear weapons
BBC, 33 minutes ago
Quoting 151. Skyepony:


This bug with favorites being replaced by European cities is suppose to be fixed. Looked like people will have to log out and log back in to get their favorites back however.


Nope, didn't work. Logged out, closed the browser (FF), Did it twice, the result was the same, no change..
Quoting 128. nymore:



You should also be worried by the Federal Courts which have ruled in favor of the pipeline twice.



To get a sense of how serious an issue this is, watch some of whistle-blower John Bolenbaugh's video. Pretty amazing stuff, and a courageous person!
Quoting 162. barbamz:

Oh, boy. :-( Off topic unless it's a plan to combat GW, *cough*. I'm already shivering, no joke:
Donald Trump: US must greatly expand nuclear weapons
BBC, 33 minutes ago

I'm going in, let me know when it's safe to come out.
Quoting 162. barbamz:

Oh, boy. :-( Off topic unless it's a plan to combat GW, *cough*. I'm already shivering, no joke:
Donald Trump: US must greatly expand nuclear weapons
BBC, 33 minutes ago


Machtpolitik. Ich glaube, wir haben das ja schon mal gesehen?
Quoting 152. Patrap:

We may be under a cyber attack,,as all my Favs disappear and these fall in at the top instead.5


From The Business Insider:

PREDICTION: The internet will shut down for 24 hours next year
Quoting 144. pipelines:



Cool idea, but one has to wonder how much the extra weight from the plants/irrigation/growth medium is going to effect the gas mileage. Could be increasing CO2 emissions rather than reducing it....


I picture seeing an arctic outbreak and stepping on the gas to outrun it :-)
Interesting formation north of South America:
Quoting 162. barbamz:

Oh, boy. :-( Off topic unless it's a plan to combat GW, *cough*. I'm already shivering, no joke:
Donald Trump: US must greatly expand nuclear weapons
BBC, 33 minutes ago


7,100 Nuclear weapons is not enough for one country eh?
Those supposed anomalies on the imagery looks more like orbital paths to me.,,on a mercator overlay.

Quoting 172. ILwthrfan:



7,100 Nuclear weapons is not enough for one country eh?

Insanity! The more you have the greater the chance of something going wrong. Doom, sigh
Quoting 173. Skyepony:

Skyepony, you've got WU-mail.
Quoting 173. Skyepony:



Not sure if it's solar storm related as this was leading up to that in time. Finn posted something in my blog comments overnight about a MIMIC-TPW anomaly. Looked it up and posted a bunch of still frames from it but haven't looked into it really in-depth.. Any thoughts?


I think it is due to F16 data problems during that timeframe.
Link
Quoting 163. PedleyCA:



Nope, didn't work. Logged out, closed the browser (FF), Did it twice, the result was the same, no change..


Did not work with me either. This bug as been a pain all week on my account.
Quoting 162. barbamz:

Oh, boy. :-( Off topic unless it's a plan to combat GW, *cough*. I'm already shivering, no joke:
Donald Trump: US must greatly expand nuclear weapons
BBC, 33 minutes ago


Come to think of it, the CIA MUST have war-gamed an insane president scenario. They also must have on staff psychologists/psychiatrists that would declare Trump to have a sociopathic Narcicissitic Personality Disorder (NPD)

Spooky times ahead one way or another.
Quote:
101. vis0


...shhh so again anti-matter comes in contact with matter when you see that flash of light trying telling them to read what happens HALF yes HALF a nano second before (no RazMaTaz that's not half a Mickey mouse second on yer iPod custom watch face)  its 10 NEGATIVE POWER of ~17. They'll notice resonance BEFORE the light yer creating a miniscule quasar/Nova to be exact and in the opposite manner you can use resonance to carry any element(s) via quantum light i.e. travel from NYC to Puerto Rico in 2secs ...


Reply:

From: “Physics Stack Exchange”... Meaningful to Zero Point?


Antimatter is in every precise meaningful sense matter moving backward in time. The notion of "moving backward in time" is nonsensical in a Hamiltonian formulation, because the whole description can only go forward in time. That's the definition of what the Hamiltonian does--- it takes you forward in time a little bit. So if you formulate quantum mechanics the Hamiltonian way, this idea is difficult to understand (still it can be done--- Stueckelberg discovered this connection before the path integral, when field Hamiltonians were the only tool).
But in Feynman's particle path-integral picture, when you parametrize particles by their worldline proper time, and you renounce a global causal picture in favor of particles splitting and joining, the particle trajectories are consistent with relativity, but only if the trajectories include back-in-time trajectories, where coordinate time ticks in the opposite sense to proper time.
Looked at in the Hamiltonian formalism, the coordinate time is the only notion of time. So those paths where the proper time ticks in the reverse direction look like a different type of particle, and these are the antiparticles.
Sometimes there is an idenification, so that a particle is its own antiparticle.
Quoting 172. ILwthrfan:



7,100 Nuclear weapons is not enough for one country eh?


I would expect them to be perfecting the death ray space laser? Or that's hush hush?
Link

"It is almost certain that NASA is nothing more than a multi-billion dollar distraction, playing with rockets and deep space probes to keep the public’s attention away from the real space programs run by the military."

Quoting 156. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



dj - showing up with a new ID is one thing, but how did you manage to mask your member stats? Now that's notorious.

The rap isn't half bad either ;)
Quoting 180. MontanaZephyr:



Come to think of it, the CIA MUST have war-gamed an insane president scenario. They also must have on staff psychologists/psychiatrists that would declare Trump to have a sociopathic Narcicissitic Personality Disorder (NPD)

Spooky times ahead one way or another.

To come to that conclusion one must assume the people in the CIA are sane. Push a little button....
interesting circulation just moving offshore columbia. nhc says High pressure north of the Caribbean and low pressure over
northern South America is inducing a moderate north-south
pressure gradient over the Caribbean Sea today.
Folks, I'm going to create millions jobs, believe me. Think all the people that will have jobs building fallout shelters. I'm going to make America great again and I'm the only one that can do it, believe me.
Quoting 164. MontanaZephyr:




To get a sense of how serious an issue this is, watch some of whistle-blower John Bolenbaugh's video. Pretty amazing stuff, and a courageous person!
Here is another....Link
Quoting 181. 1982ExxonPrimate:

Quote:
101. vis0


...shhh so again anti-matter comes in contact with matter when you see that flash of light trying telling them to read what happens HALF yes HALF a nano second before (no RazMaTaz that's not half a Mickey mouse second on yer iPod custom watch face)  its 10 NEGATIVE POWER of ~17. They'll notice resonance BEFORE the light yer creating a miniscule quasar/Nova to be exact and in the opposite manner you can use resonance to carry any element(s) via quantum light i.e. travel from NYC to Puerto Rico in 2secs ...


Reply:

From: “Physics Stack Exchange”... Meaningful to Zero Point?


Antimatter is in every precise meaningful sense matter moving backward in time. The notion of "moving backward in time" is nonsensical in a Hamiltonian formulation, because the whole description can only go forward in time. That's the definition of what the Hamiltonian does--- it takes you forward in time a little bit. So if you formulate quantum mechanics the Hamiltonian way, this idea is difficult to understand (still it can be done--- Stueckelberg discovered this connection before the path integral, when field Hamiltonians were the only tool).
But in Feynman's particle path-integral picture, when you parametrize particles by their worldline proper time, and you renounce a global causal picture in favor of particles splitting and joining, the particle trajectories are consistent with relativity, but only if the trajectories include back-in-time trajectories, where coordinate time ticks in the opposite sense to proper time.
Looked at in the Hamiltonian formalism, the coordinate time is the only notion of time. So those paths where the proper time ticks in the reverse direction look like a different type of particle, and these are the antiparticles.
Sometimes there is an idenification, so that a particle is its own antiparticle.


Jeezy pete, I struggled with Pat's solar wind graphics post, and then hit this one...I think you might be operating on a whole other level than I am!
189. bwi
Quoting 130. georgevandenberghe:



I'm usually pretty jaded and criticize people for using the word "unprecedented" to describe events with lots of precedents. However a 100+km poleward retreat of the ice edge in December over a 1000km length, is indeed incredible perhaps.. wait for it.. unprecedented since we've been taking observations.




Here's a bigger animation. Hudson Bay and vicinity is finally filling in well, but Bering and Chukchi Seas still warm, and the Atlantic is incredible.
Flood Advisory
Flood Advisory
National Weather Service San Diego CA
1008 AM PST THU DEC 22 2016

CAC065-222100-
/O.NEW.KSGX.FA.Y.0032.161222T1808Z-161222T2100Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
Riverside CA-
1008 AM PST THU DEC 22 2016

The National Weather Service in San Diego has issued a

* Urban and Small Stream Flood Advisory for...
Riverside County in southern California...along the Whitewater
River in north-central Riverside County

* Until 100 PM PST

* At 1001 AM PST, the Whitewater River gauge at Indio reported
a level of 7.6 ft.

* Excessive rainfall over the Whitewater basin is expected to result
in significant flows through the Coachella storm water channel.
This could inundate low-water crossings and possibly create
dangerous swift water stretches through this morning.

* Some locations that could experience flooding include...
Indio, Palm Springs, Cathedral City, Palm Desert, Rancho Mirage,
and Indio.


PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
191. bwi
Impressive Christmas storm, which models have been predicting consistently all week. Seems quite far north for a late-December storm track, but appreciate the nice weather here in the east U.S.
Quoting 178. nrtiwlnvragn:



I think it is due to F16 data problems during that timeframe.
Link

This fits the time frame and they lost F17 back in April. Thanks!
193. bwi
Capital Weather Gang on the Arctic weirdness, with 0C temp observed near the north pole and -50C (!) spilling out of polar region into Russia!
Quoting 192. Skyepony:


This fits the time frame and they lost F17 back in April. Thanks!


Also it does not show up in Ver2 images.
Quoting 131. VAstorms:

Maybe someone here can help me as I'm getting zero assistance from WU. I have had continual slow loading, no loading, or finally Google Chrome killing the loading of WU. Today I get on and all of my favorite sites are in Europe and WU thinks I am in Sofia BU. I can get to other favorites by loading each one in at a time but can no longer click on them. 50% of the time I can't load this blog either. What is going on with WU? and why won't anyone even respond to a support question. I've changed nothing.


And sometimes when you refresh the blog , you are sent back to the 360 rainbow, LOL. Usually when chrome kicks me out after refresh, a second refresh brings me back.
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
412 AM PST THU DEC 22 2016

...SIGNIFICANT WINTER WEATHER IMPACTS POSSIBLE LATE FRIDAY NIGHT
THROUGH CHRISTMAS EVE...

.A VERY COLD WINTRY STORM WILL DROP INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
FRIDAY EVENING, BRINGING PERIODS OF HEAVY PRECIPITATION THROUGH
SATURDAY, ALONG WITH VERY STRONG WESTERLY WINDS. SNOW LEVELS WILL
START OUT HIGH, BUT BEHIND A STRONG COLD FRONT, SNOW LEVELS WILL
QUICKLY TUMBLE FROM LATE FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY. THIS MAY BRING
ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL DOWN TO THE BUSY HIGHWAY TRAVEL CORRIDORS
BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS, VERY
COLD AND BLUSTERY CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH LATE SATURDAY
NIGHT.

CAZ055-056-058-222200-
/O.NEW.KSGX.WS.A.0005.161224T0000Z-161225T1200Z/
SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-RIVERSIDE COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
SAN DIEGO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS...BIG BEAR CITY...
BIG BEAR LAKE...CRESTLINE...LAKE ARROWHEAD...RUNNING SPRINGS...
WRIGHTWOOD...JULIAN...PINE VALLEY
412 AM PST THU DEC 22 2016

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
LATE SATURDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN DIEGO HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
LATE SATURDAY NIGHT.

* SNOW LEVELS...INITIALLY 7000 TO 8000 FT FRIDAY EVENING, DROPPING
TO 4000 TO 5000 FT SATURDAY MORNING, AND TO 3000 TO 3500 FT
SATURDAY EVENING.

* TIMING...HEAVY RAIN AND SNOW DEVELOPING FRIDAY EVENING FROM NW
TO SE. RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW AS SNOW LEVELS TUMBLE LATE FRIDAY
NIGHT BEHIND A STRONG COLD FRONT. PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW INTO
SATURDAY MORNING, THEN A BRIEF LULL IN PRECIPITATION SATURDAY
AFTERNOON. ADDITIONAL SNOW SHOWERS WITH BRIEF BUT HEAVY BURSTS
OF SNOW, CONTINUING THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING, WITH LOW SNOW
LEVELS. SNOW COMING TO AN END BY LATE SATURDAY NIGHT.

* POTENTIAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...
ABOVE 7000 FT: 12 TO 18 INCHES...
6000-7000 FT: 6 TO 12 INCHES...
5000-6000 FT: 5 TO 10 INCHES...
4000-5000 FT: 3 TO 6 INCHES...
3000-4000 FT: 1 TO 3 INCHES.

* WINDS...STRONG WINDS DEVELOPING FRIDAY AFTERNOON. INITIALLY
SOUTHWEST, SWITCHING TO WEST TO NORTHWEST BEHIND THE FRONT BY
SATURDAY MORNING. WIND GUSTS OF 45 TO 60 MPH LIKELY AT TIMES,
WITH ISOLATED GUSTS TO 70 MPH ON THE MOUNTAINTOPS.

* VISIBILITY...REDUCED TO ONE-QUARTER MILE OR LESS UNDER HEAVY
SNOW.

* IMPACTS...POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WINTER WEATHER TRAVEL CONDITIONS.
MOUNTAIN PASSES OF INTERSTATE 15 AND 8 MAY BE IMPACTED WITH
ACCUMULATING SNOW BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING.

* OUTLOOK...SNOW AND STRONG WINDS DIMINISHING SATURDAY NIGHT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW AND STRONG WINDS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR
THE LATEST FORECASTS.
Snow for Christmas :)

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SALT LAKE CITY UT
1124 AM MST THU DEC 22 2016

UTZ001>012-014>016-WYZ021-230230-
/O.CON.KSLC.WS.A.0006.161224T0300Z-161226T1100Z/
CACHE VALLEY/UTAH PORTION-NORTHERN WASATCH FRONT-
SALT LAKE AND TOOELE VALLEYS-SOUTHERN WASATCH FRONT-
GREAT SALT LAKE DESERT AND MOUNTAINS-WASATCH MOUNTAIN VALLEYS-
WASATCH MOUNTAINS I-80 NORTH-WASATCH MOUNTAINS SOUTH OF I-80-
WESTERN UINTA MOUNTAINS-WASATCH PLATEAU/BOOK CLIFFS-
WESTERN UINTA BASIN-CASTLE COUNTRY-SANPETE/SEVIER VALLEYS-
WEST CENTRAL UTAH-SOUTHWEST UTAH-SOUTHWEST WYOMING-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...LOGAN...SMITHFIELD...BRIGHAM CITY...
OGDEN...BOUNTIFUL...SALT LAKE CITY...TOOELE...LEHI...PROVO...
NEPHI...WENDOVER...SNOWVILLE...HUNTSVILLE...PARK CITY...
HEBER CITY...WOODRUFF...RANDOLPH...ALTA...BRIGHTON...
MIRROR LAKE HIGHWAY...SCOFIELD...DUCHESNE...ROOSEVELT...PRICE. ..
CASTLE DALE...EMERY...MANTI...RICHFIELD...DELTA...FILLMOR E...
BEAVER...CEDAR CITY...MILFORD...EVANSTON
1124 AM MST THU DEC 22 2016

...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY EVENING
THROUGH LATE SUNDAY NIGHT...

* AFFECTED AREA...THE MAJORITY OF UTAH AND SOUTHWEST WYOMING AS
WELL AS THE NORTHERN MOUNTAINS. THIS WINTER STORM WATCH DOES
NOT AFFECT DIXIE...THE SAN RAFAEL SWELL AND LAKE POWELL AREAS.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...VALLEYS WILL LIKELY SEE 5-10 INCHES OF
SNOWFALL...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE. MOUNTAINS WILL
LIKELY SEE 1 TO 3 FEET OF SNOW.


* TIMING...VALLEY RAIN AND SNOW WITH MOUNTAIN SNOW WILL DEVELOP
FRIDAY NIGHT. PRECIPITATION WILL BECOME WIDESPREAD AND HEAVY AT
TIMES SATURDAY. PRECIPITATION WILL SWITCH TO SNOW BY SATURDAY
EVENING ACROSS ALL VALLEYS.

* SNOW LEVELS...4500 TO 5500 FEET MOST AREAS FRIDAY EVENING
THROUGH SATURDAY...LOWERING TO VALLEY FLOOR SATURDAY EVENING
THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.

* WINDS...STRONG GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS ARE FORECAST FRIDAY NIGHT
AND SATURDAY. WIND GUSTS NEAR 60 MPH ARE POSSIBLE WESTERN
VALLEYS AND COULD EXCEED 70 MPH RIDGELINES.

* IMPACTS...SIGNIFICANT TRAVEL IMPACTS ARE LIKELY THIS UPCOMING
HOLIDAY WEEKEND. STRONG WINDS MAY CAUSE LOW VISIBILITIES IN
AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW SATURDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WHICH MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO
MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

Quoting 183. LAbonbon:



dj - showing up with a new ID is one thing, but how did you manage to mask your member stats? Now that's notorious.

The rap isn't half bad either ;)


LOL - that requires "extreme vetting" before I can reveal any of my secrets. But I promise, once the official audit is done, I will reveal them. Trust me!
> In contrast, 2015 saw the UK’s warmest December on record, with no snow cover anywhere in the nation on Christmas Day

Scotland is part of the UK. Are you saying the mountains of Scotland had no snow cover on Christmas Day, 2015? The article linked below claims that the snow never melted in some places in Scotland in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_patches_in_Sco tland

I think you mean to say that no reporting stations had no snow cover on Christmas, 2015.

(On another subject, I have been reporting a fairly serious bug on your website for years now by every medium possible, and have never gotten any response. Please advise how to report problems such that someone will see the report.)

Quoting 152. Patrap:

We may be under a cyber attack,,as all my Favs disappear and these fall in at the top instead.
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Quoting 172. ILwthrfan:
7,100 Nuclear weapons is not enough for one country eh?
He wants only the best. The best. Our nuclear weapons will be fabulous. Fabulous I tell you. Simply fabulous. -- I think that's the line of thinking.
Quoting 160. PedleyCA:

In the last week we have received over 2" of rain which has doubled the amount we have received for the water year (4.10")


Yes, been pretty good 2 weeks for Soo Cal!

Last weeks storm at my abode= 2.80"
Storm #1 yesterday and today totals .96" thus far and just finished a shower( original forecast was .30-.50 for storm #1 but rain totals got bumped up as the ULL got a lot closer to Soo Cal than forecast). NWS hasn't put out rain totals yet but mentioned totals averaging about 1" at lower elevations along coast and valleys and some 2" reports in mountains.

Storm #2 Still forecast for Friday night and Saturday, NWS mentioned over 1" more rain possible and lot's of snow above 6,000 feet (that includes most Soo Cal ski resorts) with totals over 1 foot at those elevations and snow level possibly dropping down to 3,000 feet after the front comes through and the cold air comes in.

These rains have been good soaking rains and from my views on things were/are very beneficial and not wasted by just getting dumped on and it all runs off in flooding......the forest has the good wet smell again!


I can see Russia clearly.
A day in San Diego Weather History

Quoting 129. georgevandenberghe:
Explosions require containment.
Fuel-air mixtures as from natural gas pipeline leaks make fabulous explosions. I tell you, they are the best.
Except nuclear weapons. Those are good, too. Got to have lots of nuclear weapons.

Edit: Not much contains one of them.
Quoting 202. HurricaneHunterJoe:



Yes, been pretty good 2 weeks for Soo Cal!

Last weeks storm at my abode= 2.80"
Storm #1 yesterday and today totals .96" thus far and just finished a shower( original forecast was .30-.50 for storm #1 but rain totals got bumped up as the ULL got a lot closer to Soo Cal than forecast). NWS hasn't put out rain totals yet but mentioned totals averaging about 1" at lower elevations along coast and valleys and some 2" reports in mountains.

Storm #2 Still forecast for Friday night and Saturday, NWS mentioned over 1" more rain possible and lot's of snow above 6,000 feet (that includes most Soo Cal ski resorts) with totals over 1 foot at those elevations and snow level possibly dropping down to 3,000 feet after the front comes through and the cold air comes in.

These rains have been good soaking rains and from my views on things were/are very beneficial and not wasted by just getting dumped on and it all runs off in flooding......the forest has the good wet smell again!


Different places, different normals. It still fascinates me seeing people get all excited about 1 or 2 inches of rain, In the summer in Tampa Fl it is normal to get a 15 minute 1-2 inch rain dump, often on a daily basis. Of course we do have sand rather than dirt here.
Nock-ten heading for Philippines?





Quoting 208. SunnyDaysFla:



Different places, different normals. It still fascinates me seeing people get all excited about 1 or 2 inches of rain, In the summer in Tampa Fl it is normal to get a 15 minute 1-2 inch rain dump, often on a daily basis. Of course we do have sand rather than dirt here.


And we live in a desert :)
Quoting 210. HurricaneHunterJoe:



And we live in a desert :)


Sand there too huh?
What kind of bomb was it? The exploding kind you fuul!!

Quoting 167. washingaway:


I'm going in, let me know when it's safe to come out.


I would like to spend winter in something like that... Just think, a good heater, lots of food, a computer... Best way to escape the cold Winter. :)
Quoting 186. washingaway:

Folks, I'm going to create millions jobs, believe me. Think all the people that will have jobs building fallout shelters. I'm going to make America great again and I'm the only one that can do it, believe me.


Give it a rest..
Quoting 139. barbamz:

Well, lol, I wonder whether this will work. If it does there would be a lot of new acreage for gardening available in the world ...
Madrid wants to put gardens on top of its buses
The Local (Spain), 20 December 2016, 12:25 CET+01:00
Madrid’s City Hall has unveiled plans to boost its green credentials and plant gardens on the rooftops of its buses and bus stops.
The unusual plan to tackle pollution and reduce C02 emissions will see portable gardens planted on the top of buses and bus stops across the city. Each garden will cost around €2,500 - less for the bus stops - and will involve special irrigation systems to avoid leakage. ...




That is an ingenious idea.
Our Christmas cactus



Quoting 214. luvtogolf:
Give it a rest.
Why? Yes, it is tiresome to me from a long time ago, but to his supporters it sure makes a good impression. I thought people liked hearing that stuff.
Some very nice 48hr rainfall totals from NWS San Diego

Link
Still showering on the old homestead....up to 1.14" for Storm #1 :)
Might be good wild flower season come spring in the Anza Borrego Desert State Park after some nice rain totals in the desert......they got just as much as me so far! Thats kinda unusual as precip usually drops off when getting into the desert.

.SAN DIEGO COUNTY DESERTS

STATION PRECIP(IN) ELEVATION(FT)
CANEBRAKE 1.22 1000
BORREGO SPRINGS 1.15 500
OCOTILLO WELLS 1.12 425
OCOLTILLO WELLS SOUTH 1.11 149
SAN FELIPE 1.10 2280
BORREGO PALM CANYON 1.07 790
COYOTE CK 0.94 1189
AGUA CALIENTE 0.92 1222
221. OKsky
Quoting 217. bappit:

Why? Yes, it is tiresome to me from a long time ago, but to his supporters it sure makes a good impression. I thought people liked hearing that stuff.


Personally I am really starting to feel sad for all these poor oppressed Trump supporters, we should all do our part to make sure they feel welcome. One thing we could all do more of around here is to start saying crazy, unfounded and slightly racist things about whatever topic is being discussed. Also let us quit demanding evidence for everything. Evidence is just another word for "propaganda". Lets do whatever it takes to make them feel right at home here.

As far as xmas weather... Im dreaming of a severe christmas. :D very SEVERE >:(
Quoting 221. OKsky:



Personally I am really starting to feel sad for all these poor oppressed Trump supporters, we should all do our part to make sure they feel welcome. One thing we could all do more of around here is to start saying crazy, unfounded and slightly racist things about whatever topic is being discussed. Also let us quit demanding evidence for everything. Evidence is just another word for "propaganda". Lets do whatever it takes to make them feel right at home here.

As far as xmas weather... Im dreaming of a severe christmas. :D very SEVERE >:(


Feel sad? You are way out of touch.
Quoting 152. Patrap:

We may be under a cyber attack,,as all my Favs disappear and these fall in at the top instead.
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Warsaw, PL
28 �F Clear

Prague, CZ
27 �F Overcast

London, UK
46 �F Clear

Barcelona, SP
54.1 �F Clear

Paris/de Gaulle Arpt, FR
45 �F Mostly Cloudy

Istanbul, TU
43 �F Light Rain Showers

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Los Angeles, CA
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Yep, that is exactly what I have and my home is now Sofia BU.
Quoting 209. HurricaneHunterJoe:

Nock-ten heading for Philippines?




heading towards the Bicol region

Japan Meteorological Agency
3:00 AM JST December 23 2016
============================

In Sea East Of The Philippines
At 18:00 PM UTC, Severe Tropical Storm Nock-ten (985 hPa) located at 11.0N 135.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 55 knots with gusts of 80 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west northwest at 16 knots.

Storm Force Winds
==============
30 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
===============
90 NM from the center

Dvorak Intensity: T3.5

Forecast and Intensity
================
24 HRS: 12.7N 129.7E - 70 knots (Strong Typhoon/CAT 3) Sea East Of The Philippines
48 HRS: 13.5N 126.2E - 80 knots (Strong Typhoon/CAT 3) Sea East Of The Philippines
72 HRS: 13.7N 122.3E - 75 knots (Strong Typhoon/CAT 3) Overland Luzon - Quezon province
Quoting 172. ILwthrfan:



7,100 Nuclear weapons is not enough for one country eh?


Sheesh, I thought it was only 5000. I reckon very few people know the actual number.
Pinky: "What are we going to do tonight Brain"?
Brain: "Same thing we do every night Pinky, try to stop Trump from distroying the world".
the foundations shall be shaken
"let's continue that old nuclear arms race, because no one will stop us" - Putin.

"we need more nukes because." -Trump

all the awhile the Arctic is worsening and Antarctica is about to nose-dive. Climate Change tipping points are here.

Quoting 225. wxgeek723:



Sheesh, I thought it was only 5000. I reckon very few people know the actual number.
lol.There a bombs located in places you wouldn't even believe.Oh look I think I just saw a snowflake...
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Quoting 182. Sfloridacat5:



I would expect them to be perfecting the death ray space laser? Or that's hush hush?
Link

"It is almost certain that NASA is nothing more than a multi-billion dollar distraction, playing with rockets and deep space probes to keep the public’s attention away from the real space programs run by the military."




And people actually believe that kind of crap. :P


Well, the 2016 CO2 Forcing's Hydra will soon be retired, but I have already chosen the pick for 2017.

Good times.

As a actual Veteran, that site is a complete disaster.
Quoting 188. LAbonbon:


Jeezy pete, I struggled with Pat's solar wind graphics post, and then hit this one...I think you might be operating on a whole other level than I am!


I think I'm on a whole other "string," and vibrating much, much slower!
AK has a submarine Volcano coming to life, Bogolof.

Last couple of days it's been rumbling and shooting ash up about 35000 feet. Hopefully that's the extent of it. It is located way out in the Aleutian chain, so for the moment, it's more of a threat to aviation. Unalaska and some other small towns/villages are locate fairly close to it.

Other than that, it's bright and cold out today. Lows around zero F. Looks like we could get some snow on Dec. 25th.
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Quoting 233. Patrap:

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Well, the 2016 CO2 Forcing's Hydra will soon be retired, but I have already chosen the pick for 2017.

Good times.




Quoting 226. washingaway:

Pinky: "What are we going to do tonight Brain"?
Brain: "Same thing we do every night Pinky, try to stop Trump from distroying the world".



If you truely believe he is going to destroy the world then you are a lost soul. I'll pray for you.
Quoting 221. OKsky:



Personally I am really starting to feel sad for all these poor oppressed Trump supporters, we should all do our part to make sure they feel welcome. One thing we could all do more of around here is to start saying crazy, unfounded and slightly racist things about whatever topic is being discussed. Also let us quit demanding evidence for everything. Evidence is just another word for "propaganda". Lets do whatever it takes to make them feel right at home here.

As far as xmas weather... Im dreaming of a severe christmas. :D very SEVERE >:(
I believe that is one of the reasons bans were starting on the subject...I am guilty of some of the posts on P.E. Trump, but I would have said the same of anybody..Edit...Anybody that acts like him...My comments are not politically driven.
Quoting 235. GreyJewel:



I think I'm on a whole other "string," and vibrating much, much slower!
Yep...Now factor in the M-Theory and we should have the answer.
Justice, truth, and common sense have been turned backwards. People celebrate this. No peace on Earth, no good will towards men; hate is the gift of the season. People have zero clue what's really coming and yet they celebrate this anyway. We use to be the standard for good in the world, now we're the standard for racism and anti-intellectualism. Nothing short of shameful and revealing to the rest of the world to the real American think. Far Left/Far Right are equal pieces to a very bad puzzling world we find ourselves in. We need common sense, truth loving moderates to get political power. Anyone seen any?
Quoting 238. luvtogolf:



If you truely believe he is going to destroy the world then you are a lost soul. I'll pray for you.

He may not destroy our planet, but he will certainly cause irreversible damage if he goes through with his plans regarding climate change.
Quoting 238. luvtogolf:



If you truely believe he is going to destroy the world then you are a lost soul. I'll pray for you.


Directly? 50/50. Indirectly; yes, I do.

Invasion of the Agency Snatchers

Show me any evidence that he doesn't want to gut the United States and turn it into an oligarchy much like the Russia that exists today? Given his appointments, "statements", and what little policy he has actually posted - that is what the evidence points to thus far.
Quoting 241. DeepSeaRising:

We need common sense, truth loving moderates to get political power. Anyone seen any?


Well, there was a sighting.
Honor and Effort: What President Obama Achieved in Eight Years
Why make them if you're not going to use them? Let's make more.....what could possibly go wrong?

Global warming is becoming less of a concern for me now. We can survive some climate change. Nuclear war? Not so much.
For West Palm Beach. This year no different. Forecast high 82°...

Quoting 243. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



Directly? 50/50. Indirectly; yes, I do.

Invasion of the Agency Snatchers

Show me any evidence that he doesn't want to gut the United States and turn it into an oligarchy much like the Russia exists today? Given his appointments, "statements", and what little policy he has actually posted - that is what the evidence points to thus far.




Many Veterans are deciding tonight on a plan to encircle the Capital. He can swear in @ His NYC Ivory Palace.

Semper Fi'





RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE PROGNOSTIC REASONING
REASONING NO. 5 FOR STS 1626 NOCK-TEN (1626)
1.GENERAL COMMENTS
REASONING OF PROGNOSIS THIS TIME IS SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS ONE.
POSITION FORECAST IS MAINLY BASED ON NWP AND PERSISTENCY.
2.SYNOPTIC SITUATION
NOTHING PARTICULAR TO EXPLAIN.
3.MOTION FORECAST
POSITION ACCURACY AT 230000 UTC IS FAIR.
STS WILL MOVE AT THE SAME SPEED FOR THE NEXT 72 HOURS.
STS WILL MOVE WEST-NORTHWEST FOR THE NEXT 72 HOURS.
4.INTENSITY FORECAST
STS WILL BE GRADED UP TO TY WITHIN 12 HOURS.
STS WILL DEVELOP BECAUSE CYCLONE WILL STAY IN HIGH SST AREA.
FI-NUMBER WILL BE 5.0 AFTER 24 HOURS.=

Link
Quoting 241. DeepSeaRising:

Justice, truth, and common sense have been turned backwards. People celebrate this. No peace on Earth, no good will towards men; hate is the gift of the season. People have zero clue what's really coming and yet they celebrate this anyway. We use to be the standard for good in the world, now we're the standard for racism and anti-intellectualism. Nothing short of shameful and revealing to the rest of the world to the real American think. Far Left/Far Right are equal pieces to a very bad puzzling world we find ourselves in. We need common sense, truth loving moderates to get political power. Anyone seen any?


I refuse to let hate take over my life. Even if hate mongers get elected. I don't live my life that way.

I hope for the day that the moderates gain back some political power. Nowadays it seems to be a my way or the highway type deal and that's bad. (IMHO)
The left never shut down the gubment.

Nor did they deliberately derail a sitting President for 8 years.

Nor did they make a fool of themselves during a SOTU address.

Nor did they vote on repealing Healthcare over 50 times.

Nor did they shun Veterans and give Tax cuts to the rich.


Be sure to know where one stands in History, as we don't get to write it.

Learned Historians do.

History has a way of coming around again too.

Recognize the big Global shifts.

It matters, greatly.






Quoting 162. barbamz:

Oh, boy. :-( Off topic unless it's a plan to combat GW, *cough*. I'm already shivering, no joke:
Donald Trump: US must greatly expand nuclear weapons
BBC, 33 minutes ago


Maybe this was what was meant by "Make America Great Again".

Quoting 208. SunnyDaysFla:



Different places, different normals. It still fascinates me seeing people get all excited about 1 or 2 inches of rain, In the summer in Tampa Fl it is normal to get a 15 minute 1-2 inch rain dump, often on a daily basis. Of course we do have sand rather than dirt here.

And it cracks me up when folks get all excited about a 3.0 magnitude tremor.
Quoting 253. Milton1025:


And it cracks me up when folks get all excited about a 3.0 magnitude tremor.


If you live in an area that experiences them on an almost daily basis and construction is not designed for such an event, it is a bit "unsettling".
Quoting 254. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



If you live in an area that experiences them on an almost daily basis and construction is not designed for such an event, it is a bit "unsettling".


Actually, it's probably a lot of settling... I'm in a area that gets frequent EQs and after 3 years of being here, I'm not used to it. Of course I am talking about the 5.0's and higher ones. The smaller ones are over (so far at least) before I realize what happened...
251. Agree Patrap. When I think about either the FAR left or FAR right, I think about very different rapid moral collapses. Both dangerous. Your absolutely right in that under Bush it was a huge national give away to the very top. Over 600 billion to the top two percent and over 300 billion to the next 8%. Middle class got a pittance and the poor nothing. Trump's economic plan is five times more heavily slated to the rich than Bush's. And that's not even mentioning the tax breaks big oil and others got. It's amazing that didn't even come up in the election. All power and wealth is now in the hands of billionaires who hate the Average American. They'd like to get rid of a few billion of us world wide. And they've trained enough American's to be their lap dogs who empower them to do whatever they want.
Experience comes from doing. I for one,admired this Man for His service to a crashing Nation. History, will show His deeds to be Historic.

Yet there is something that seems unassailable, and it goes a long way toward explaining the steady rise in the president's approval ratings as Americans contemplate his last day at the helm. Despite his inexperience, Barack Obama gave a full measure of scandal-free service, a rarity among modern presidents. And he never lost hope, even when others wavered. There is no tougher job an endless stream of difficult decisions, all guaranteed to stir fierce criticism. Obama did it with dignity and conscience. As was true at the beginning, it remains true at the end: who Obama was mattered at least as much as what he did. And start to finish, he was an honorable man.
258. MahFL
Quoting 256. DeepSeaRising:

... in the hands of billionaires who hate the Average American. ...



I think it's a bit a of a stretch to say they hate the average American. They certainly don't understand the average American, eg, if they have money problems they just get another $50m loan from some bank and think nothing of it.
Also don't forget there are lot of non Americans living in the good old US of A.
Quoting 256. DeepSeaRising:

251. Agree Patrap. When I think about either the FAR left or FAR right, I think about very different rapid moral collapses. Both dangerous. Your absolutely right in that under Bush it was a huge national give away to the very top. Over 600 billion to the top two percent and over 300 billion to the next 8%. Middle class got a pittance and the poor nothing. Trump's economic plan is five times more heavily slated to the rich than Bush's. And that's not even mentioning the tax breaks big oil and others got. It's amazing that didn't even come up in the election. All power and wealth is now in the hands of billionaires who hate the Average American. They'd like to get rid of a few billion of us world wide. And they've trained enough American's to be their lap dogs who empower them to do whatever they want.

Here is the latest from AER on this winter's forecast...Link....By the way, the extremely rich and powerful want to take over the world....They will fail...and be punished..
Quoting 258. MahFL:



I think it's a bit a of a stretch to say they hate the average American. They certainly don't understand the average American, eg, if they have money problems they just get another $50m loan from some bank and think nothing of it.
Also don't forget there are lot of non Americans living in the good old US of A.


They need the average American...
Quoting 250. Dakster:



I refuse to let hate take over my life. Even if hate mongers get elected. I don't live my life that way.

I hope for the day that the moderates gain back some political power. Nowadays it seems to be a my way or the highway type deal and that's bad. (IMHO)


One of the things that remains to be seen, is what happens to the "moderate" portion of the Republican party. They have effectively been driven out. Is this temporary, or will they once again regain any semblance of political sway within their party as well as without.
Quoting 258. MahFL:



I think it's a bit a of a stretch to say they hate the average American. They certainly don't understand the average American, eg, if they have money problems they just get another $50m loan from some bank and think nothing of it.
Also don't forget there are lot of non Americans living in the good old US of A.


More like Marie Antoinette and less like Ayn Rand.
Quoting 243. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



Directly? 50/50. Indirectly; yes, I do.

Invasion of the Agency Snatchers

Show me any evidence that he doesn't want to gut the United States and turn it into an oligarchy much like the Russia that exists today? Given his appointments, "statements", and what little policy he has actually posted - that is what the evidence points to thus far.


Sorry. too late.

Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy

from 2014~
Miss Nola Roux with Alpha,Beta,and Charley

23 Days young today.

Merry Christmas'



Quoting 252. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



Maybe this was what was meant by "Make America Great Again".




Trump's plan: Turn it all to glass and ash before global warming does.
248 - Patrap

"Many Veterans are deciding tonight on a plan to encircle the Capital. He can swear in @ His NYC Ivory Palace."

Hmm...is the intent to disrupt the Inauguration? If so, that won't go over too well with the government, etc. A protest, sure, but to stop the process? That would be sedition, wouldn't it?

Just so we're clear, I'm not fond of the guy (understatement), and if the Russians did disrupt our democratic election process I think that's despicable and there should be serious consequences for all parties involved. Saying that, we've always had a peaceful transfer of power. The ramifications of not having one...can't imagine...
Tried twice to correct typoes and other errors in Michigan Diary, but the system won't let me. ~~~
Quoting 251. Patrap:

The left never shut down the gubment.

Nor did they deliberately derail a sitting President for 8 years.

Nor did they make a fool of themselves during a SOTU address.

Nor did they vote on repealing Healthcare over 50 times.

Nor did they shun Veterans and give Tax cuts to the rich.


Be sure to know where one stands in History, as we don't get to write it.

Learned Historians do.

History has a way of coming around again too.

Recognize the big Global shifts.

It matters, greatly.








Two words

Veterans Administration

The weather here is nice before the x-mas storm. Happy Holidays to all no matter what holiday you celebrate
Quoting 267. LAbonbon:

248 - Patrap

"Many Veterans are deciding tonight on a plan to encircle the Capital. He can swear in @ His NYC Ivory Palace."

Hmm...is the intent to disrupt the Inauguration? If so, that won't go over too well with the government, etc. A protest, sure, but to stop the process? That would be sedition, wouldn't it?

Just so we're clear, I'm not fond of the guy (understatement), and if the Russians did disrupt our democratic election process I think that's despicable and there should be serious consequences for all parties involved. Saying that, we've always had a peaceful transfer of power. The ramifications of not having one...can't imagine...


If they tried to stop the process they will be arrested. I can't imagine what the media and liberals would have done if people tried to stop Hussein's inauguration. Conservatives wouldn't do that because they accept the process and don't continuously cry because they lost. Certainly a different level of maturity being displayed.
Quoting 270. luvtogolf:



If they tried to stop the process they will be arrested. I can't imagine what the media and liberals would have done if people tried to stop Hussein's inauguration. Conservatives wouldn't do that because they accept the process and don't continuously cry because they lost. Certainly a different level of maturity being displayed.

Do you really think this country is split between so-called 'liberals' and so-called 'conservatives? And that the so-called 'conservatives' are the epitome of maturity and grace and the so-called 'liberals' are exactly the opposite? No middle ground, or shades of grey? No chance your definitions are off or the black and white descriptions may be a bit skewed? Honestly, the only part of your comment I can agree with is the likelihood of arrests if the process is disrupted.

Please don't take this personally. I have these same thoughts often on this blog, and rarely comment on it. I'm doing so now since you replied to me, and the opportunity presented itself. I've been trying (very hard) to keep away from political discussions on here. Seems tonight I've failed in that endeavor :/

On topic...30F here in Salt Lake, and snow is on it's way...white Christmas here we come!
Quoting 261. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



One of the things that remains to be seen, is what happens to the "moderate" portion of the Republican party. They have effectively been driven out. Is this temporary, or will they once again regain any semblance of political sway within their party as well as without.


Moderates just aren't voting anymore...they're the 90 million eligible voters who stayed home. One day I hope they get fed up, show up, & change things...could be a while though.
Quoting 270. luvtogolf:



If they tried to stop the process they will be arrested. I can't imagine what the media and liberals would have done if people tried to stop Hussein's inauguration. Conservatives wouldn't do that because they accept the process and don't continuously cry because they lost. Certainly a different level of maturity being displayed.

Who is Hussein?
Yall too funny. This site has turned into a "bash the right" and "bash Trump" site.
I know a lot of military people, both active and retired. Not one of the was an HRC supporter.
262. MontanaZephyr
1:53 AM GMT on December 23, 2016

The wife keeps carrying on about this 'attitude thing'. SHE's got the attitude!

With all that language, she is going to take some bleach and wash his mouth and throat straight down to his A$$.
Quoting 274. PensacolaDoug:

Yall too funny. This site has turned into a "bash the right" and "bash Trump" site.
I know a lot of military people, both active and retired. Not one of the was an HRC supporter.
Good evening Doug...You asked every person you know thats in the military who they voted for.?..How many did you ask.?
Stranger's in da night,............

: P
A small sample size iz not included in... er, the "bubble of babble"....



I live in reality land.

We will soon be under the Leadership of a Orange Madman who can destroy the Planet in less than 140 characters.

Merry Hanukkah Kwanza' all.

DEFCON DON: NUKE TWEET HAS EXPERTS SPOOKED


Noam Chomsky calls it one of the most frightening statements I've seen recently.

Back in August, nuclear experts told us that the idea of a nuclear-armed President Donald Trump had them on edge. With Trump now officially headed to the White House and still using Twitter to offer vague policy announcements, their fears are no longer based on hypotheticals.

In a tweet Thursday, Trump raised eyebrows by calling for an expansion of the United States nuclear capability.

The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes, the president-elect wrote.

It's not clear whether Trump was expressing support for modernizing the nation's aging nuclear arsenal or for stockpiling more nukes in the U.S. But either way, the message left a number of experts on nuclear arms profoundly disturbed, especially as it arrived just hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin called for a similar strengthening of Russian nuclear forces.

We need to strengthen the military potential of strategic nuclear forces, especially with missile complexes that can reliably penetrate any existing and prospective missile defense systems, Putin said, according to Agence France-Presse. We must carefully monitor any changes in the balance of power and in the political-military situation in the world, especially along Russian borders, and quickly adapt plans for neutralizing threats to our country.

Noam Chomsky, the renowned scholar and Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor emeritus, said that Trump's tweet was one of the most frightening statements I've seen recently.

Putin's is bad enough, Chomsky said, but at least it has a defensive cast. It's about Russia's borders, not Mexico's.

Chomsky also suggested these statements could prompt a change to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Doomsday Clock a symbolic representation of how close humanity is to global catastrophe which is due to be updated in early 2017. Since 2015, the clock has been set at three minutes to midnight.

[The clock] just might move even closer to midnight, Chomsky said.

Although Thursday's tweet was Trump's first public comment about nuclear weaponry as president-elect, experts have been sounding the alarm for months about the possibility of him engaging in this sort of escalation.

Come January, Trump will have virtually unlimited power to rain down nuclear weapons on any adversarial regime and country at any time, which could extinguish hundreds of millions of lives in just a few hours, wrote Bruce Blair, a nuclear safety expert at Princeton University, in a chilling piece earlier this year about the state of affairs with Trump's finger on the button.

Blair and others have also questioned whether Trump has the temperament to handle the proverbial 3 a.m. call giving notice that a nuclear strike is imminent. With just 30 minutes to deal with missiles launched from Russia or China (and 12 minutes or less for missiles launched from submarines in the Atlantic Ocean), the president must have the brainpower and steadiness to confront such a crisis.

Trump has shown a seemingly blase attitude toward the idea of nuclear engagement. He's refused to rule out using tactical nuclear weapons in the war against the militant group that calls itself the Islamic State, and has sounded cavalier about the use of nuclear weaponry, going so far as to ask why the U.S. has nuclear weapons if it can't use them. Trump has also declined to rule out using nuclear weapons in Europe.

People like John Noonan, a Republican national security expert who advised former GOP presidential candidates Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney, were left to argue that Trump's propensity to lash out against anyone who criticizes him would not mix well with weapons of mass destruction.

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Doomsday Clock

Disturbing day...I'm headed for the Land of Nod. You all have a good night.
Quoting 274. PensacolaDoug:

Yall too funny. This site has turned into a "bash the right" and "bash Trump" site.
I know a lot of military people, both active and retired. Not one of the was an HRC supporter.


Well, when the current leaders of the GOP insist on being wrong on issues that they themselves politicized...such as climate science, one can readily see where the bashing is coming from and why it is occurring. Don't want the bashing, stop being so wrong all the time.
Quoting 280. LAbonbon:


Doomsday Clock

Disturbing day...I'm headed for the Land of Nod. You all have a good night.


Wait until he takes office... That clock's gonna get moved more.
The comments on this site are almost all politics now. More like the Democratic Underground or the Weather Underground, the radical leftist "Weather Underground" of the 60s, not the weather site than its name, Category Six.

The moderators need to get this under control and return it to its mission of discussing the weather.
285. MahFL
Quoting 274. PensacolaDoug:

Yall too funny. This site has turned into a "bash the right" and "bash Trump" site.
I know a lot of military people, both active and retired. Not one of the was an HRC supporter.


The ratio of Reps v Dems in the military is approx 2:1, so statistically your not going to see as many. Also this election was not a normal election, it was a vote against the establishment and unfortunately for Hillary she was it's representative.
Round 1 Storm Rain Total at my place 1.24". Round/Storm #2 is on the way for Fri/Sat with Snow,Rain and Wind!



Friday night through Saturday a winter storm will bring widespread, and heavy at times, precipitation. Heavy snow will be possible in the mountains above roughly 5000 feet, with lighter snow and less accumulation down to around 3000 feet. There will be a potential for flooding, especially near recent wildfire burn scars. Stay tuned to the forecast for updates to this storm situation!
287. MahFL
Quoting 286. HurricaneHunterJoe:

Round 1 Storm Rain Total at my place 1.24". Round/Storm #2 is on the way for Fri/Sat with Snow,Rain and Wind!


Looks good for the CA drought situation and a good ski season. Here in FL the "abnormally dry" expanded.
Quoting 283. Wacahootaman:

The comments on this site are almost all politics now. More like the Democratic Underground or the Weather Underground, the radical leftist "Weather Underground" of the 60s, not the weather site than its name, Category Six.

The moderators need to get this under control and return it to its mission of discussing the weather.

And this is what happens when you allow rampant discussion of politics on a weather forum, or any other kind of forum. Don't get me wrong, I am all for climate discussion on here, and unfortunately that is intersecting with politics right now. But the board has been taken over by pure political bickering, with no element of weather or climate. Everyone's hackles are up right now, and everyone's got their opinion, and it's so important that it be heard, I know, but I think we could use a little stronger moderation here. Instead, I see mods jumping right in and wallowing in it with everyone else.

So, if politics is your thing, enjoy the battle I guess. I'm not enjoying watching this forum go down the tubes, personally.
Bad weather for Scotland and the north of England today. Winds could be as high as 90 MPH.

Link

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/weather/uk-braces-i tself-for-arrival-of-storm-barbara/ar-BBxt9uj?li=B BoPWjQ
Quoting 274. PensacolaDoug:

Yall too funny. This site has turned into a "bash the right" and "bash Trump" site.
I know a lot of military people, both active and retired. Not one of the was an HRC supporter.

Oddly, that's nearly my experience, too. I personally know one vet that voted for Hillary. Their order of preference, as far as I can tell: Trump, no one, Johnson, Stein (that was me!), Hillary. I have no idea if my experience is representative of vets generally, though. So I won't draw any large conclusions from my experience.
291. SLU
Quoting 142. LAbonbon:

A bit off topic, but interesting...from EOS:

It's Not Just Fracking: New Database of Human-Induced Quakes

How many earthquakes have human processes induced? Probably many more than we think, scientists indicated last week at American Geophysical Union’s Fall Meeting in San Francisco, Calif.

Just in the United States, the number of earthquakes per year in the center of the country has jumped dramatically since the early 2000s. According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), each year between 1973 and 2008, the central United States experienced about 21 earthquakes of magnitude 3 or higher. This number grew to almost 100 per year between 2009 and 2013. In 2014 alone, the region experienced more than 400 earthquakes.

In the past few years, scientists have begun to better understand the relationship between industrial processes and “induced” earthquakes. Recent media attention has zeroed in on fracking and wastewater injection, but earthquakes are also induced by the load of water impounded behind a dam, mining processes, and extracting groundwater for irrigation, among other causes.


Full article


...such as the High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program.
Quoting 283. Wacahootaman:

The comments on this site are almost all politics now. More like the Democratic Underground or the Weather Underground, the radical leftist "Weather Underground" of the 60s, not the weather site than its name, Category Six.

The moderators need to get this under control and return it to its mission of discussing the weather.

Or be censored away, of course - because that looks like the near future.
Quoting 270. luvtogolf:



If they tried to stop the process they will be arrested. I can't imagine what the media and liberals would have done if people tried to stop Hussein's inauguration. Conservatives wouldn't do that because they accept the process and don't continuously cry because they lost. Certainly a different level of maturity being displayed.

The usual projection.
Those 'conservatives' cried and sabotaged for eight years straight and now they stole the supreme court and the vote. Of course they'd call legitimate protests against that - voter supression, gerrymandering etc - 'crying'. They have to. They have no arguments.
Quoting 278. Patrap:

A small sample size iz not included in... er, the "bubble of babble"....




Your views are not representative of most vets is my experience.
Quoting 276. hydrus:

Good evening Doug...You asked every person you know thats in the military who they voted for.?..How many did you ask.?
My job and social circle puts me in touch with numerous and I do mean numerous, vets and active duty personnel daily. They are not shy about offering their opinions.
Quoting 281. Astrometeor:



Well, when the current leaders of the GOP insist on being wrong on issues that they themselves politicized...such as climate science, one can readily see where the bashing is coming from and why it is occurring. Don't want the bashing, stop being so wrong all the time.


Said a representative of the group that has lost hundreds of seats in statehouses, most of the governerships, the house of representatives, the Senate ,and now the Presidency. In two years it will be even more lop-sided. Considering the magnitude of your losses the last 6 years, maybe its time ya'll moderated and comprised a little?
most americans at the beginning of the Vietnam War were all in for war. remember the Green Berets? propaganda movie for sure? it was suppose to be a cake walk. in the movie the nips walked right into a hail of machine gun fire. it took thousands of body bags with dead americans enclosed for the majority of Americans to change its mind. if trump does not deliver his voters will leave him in droves.
I gotta go pull the cart. I'll check in later to see how bad I get bashed for being honest.
Quoting 296. PensacolaDoug:



Said a representative of the group that has lost hundreds of seats in statehouses, most of the governerships, the house of representatives, the Senate ,and now the Presidency. In two years it will be even more lop-sided. Considering the magnitude of your losses the last 6 years, maybe its time ya'll moderated and comprised a little?

Actually, the precise opposite is true: The Democrats need to go actual left, instead of the center-right tack they've taken over the last couple of decades. There's a reason Bernie Sanders won every open primary outside of Dixie --and by large margins- with the exception of Clinton's home state, which she won by two whole percentage points.

Issue polling also indicates that my assertion is valid.

However, left or right, there's no denying that the central FL weather is pretty nice these last few days.
Quoting 283. Wacahootaman:

The comments on this site are almost all politics now. More like the Democratic Underground or the Weather Underground, the radical leftist "Weather Underground" of the 60s, not the weather site than its name, Category Six.

The moderators need to get this under control and return it to its mission of discussing the weather.
Good luck with that happening. Sure love this holiday weather, nice and warm, with a mix of a few showers. Now if we can only get the afternoon thunderstorms to pop up, everything would be on an upswing.
Good morning, everyone. Probability of snow through early Monday morning:

Quoting 275. hydrus:

262. MontanaZephyr
1:53 AM GMT on December 23, 2016

The wife keeps carrying on about this 'attitude thing'. SHE's got the attitude!

With all that language, she is going to take some bleach and wash his mouth and throat straight down to his A$$.


Not meant to be offensive. I just attempted to put together a bunch of "Michigan Diary" versions that are out there. If you've ever lived in a 'lake effect' zone, you know how to cuss, by the way, like it or not. It happen TO you~
Good morning abroad with news from stormy BARBARA. Stay safe in northwestern Europe!

Projected hight of the waves:


Source WU

Disruption as Storm Barbara starts moving across Scotland

BBC, 22 minutes ago
Storm Barbara has started crossing Scotland, causing power cuts, school closures and difficult travelling conditions. The highest wind speeds are forecast for the Western Isles, Skye, the north west coast and Northern Isles, with gusts expected of 80-90 mph. ...


Current gusts/kmh. Updating. Source.
We have a typhoon (never mind seasons).
From yesterday's Guardian:

UK hits clean energy milestone: 50% of electricity from low carbon sources
New wind and solar farms, alongside wood burning and nuclear reactors, helped to push low carbon power to a new high in the third quarter of 2016

Adam Vaughan Thursday 22 December 2016 10.06 EST

Half of the UK’s electricity came from wind turbines, solar panels, wood burning and nuclear reactors between July and September, in a milestone first.

Official figures published on Thursday show low carbon power, which has been supported by the government to meet climate change targets, accounted for 50% of electricity generation in the UK in the third quarter, up from 45.3% the year before.

The rise was largely driven by new windfarms and solar farms being connected to the grid, and several major coal power stations closing.

In Scotland, the share of low carbon power is even greater, and now stands at 77% of electricity generation. A record 29% of Scotland’s electricity was exported, with almost all of it going to England.
Full article
Quoting 302. MontanaZephyr:



Not meant to be offensive. I just attempted to put together a bunch of "Michigan Diary" versions that are out there. If you've ever lived in a 'lake effect' zone, you know how to cuss, by the way, like it or not. It happen TO you~

Montana, your post was funny as h*ll. I downloaded a copy to forward to a couple friends and family members. (Not familiar with the Michigan Diary thing, but I get the gist.)
Two similar systems: one on northwest Africa, the other on Turkey.

Nock-ten approaching the Philippines, seen by Himawari. (Click to enlarge).


Click for the loop.

It could get interesting around these parts.

Heavy snow is expected across most of eastern North Dakota and northwest Minnesota by Sunday midday combined with strong winds up to 55mph creating whiteout conditions. Across southeastern North Dakota and west central Minnesota more of a mix of sleet and freezing rain is expected changing over to snow sometime Sunday night. Locations from Lisbon to Fargo to Bemidji are on the line of highest uncertainty (along and just north of the expected low pressure track. If the low tracks more east then the heavy snow area will slide to the east...) Snow and wind will continue into the Monday morning hours and winds will remain high into Monday afternoon. Travel is expected to be hazardous to dangerous Sunday midday through Monday noon.

Source NWS
Quoting 273. riverat544:


Who is Hussein?

The former king of Jordan.
Some severe storms possible on Sunday also according to SPC.

Day 3 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0229 AM CST Fri Dec 23 2016

Valid 251200Z - 261200Z

...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PORTIONS OF
SOUTHERN/CENTRAL/EASTERN NEB AND CENTRAL/EASTERN KS...

...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS SURROUNDING THE
SLIGHT RISK AREA ACROSS PARTS OF THE CENTRAL STATES...

...SUMMARY...
Isolated to widely scattered severe wind gusts may accompany showers
and thunderstorms across portions of the Central States on Sunday.

...Synopsis...
A deep cyclone and attendant powerful midlevel speed maximum are
forecast to advance northeastward across the Central States,
encouraging intense surface cyclogenesis across the central and
northern Great Plains. A surface low is forecast to track from the
central High Plains to the upper MS Valley, with a front trailing
south/southwest from the low to the southern Great Plains.

...Portions of the Central States...
Strong low-level southerlies within the northward-developing, mobile
warm sector will transport partially modified Gulf moisture into the
broader zone of ascent accompanying the larger-scale cyclone.
Present indications are that lower 60s surface dewpoints will extend
as far north as eastern OK and the MO Ozarks prior to frontal
passage, with middle 50s dewpoints extending as far north as the
lower and middle MO Valley region. The limited low-level moisture
and anticipated widespread stratus within the warm sector will
result in a paucity of pre-frontal buoyancy. Regardless, given
particularly intense deep-layer wind fields overlying the warm
sector, momentum transport accompanying a band of strongly forced
convection along the front may support severe wind gusts.

The Slight Risk area covers portions of southern, central, and
eastern NE southward into central and eastern KS. A narrow, strongly
forced convective band will have the greatest potential to move
across these areas, where the strongest midlevel height falls and
sufficient low-level moisture should overlap. With 50-70 kt of flow
around 850 mb, downward transfer of strong momentum aloft in
shallow, banded convection -- aided by the frontal circulation --
may support severe wind gusts during the afternoon.

East of these areas, the severe-wind risk will decrease as the front
advances into more stable air, owing to modest nocturnal cooling.

Farther south into portions of OK and western AR, relatively strong
vertical shear will exist within the warm sector. However, present
indications are that capping/poor midlevel lapse rates and the lack
of deep ascent should be deleterious for sustained convection.
Despite the modest increase in moisture with southward extent
through the warm sector, boundary-layer moistening is not expected
to be sufficient to offset the dearth of large-scale ascent and
comparatively weaker frontal circulation, in support of any more
than an isolated/marginal severe potential.

..Cohen.. 12/23/2016
Quoting 283. Wacahootaman:

The comments on this site are almost all politics now. More like the Democratic Underground or the Weather Underground, the radical leftist "Weather Underground" of the 60s, not the weather site than its name, Category Six.

The moderators need to get this under control and return it to its mission of discussing the weather.
Thank you for saying this. I have steered away from this blog lately because of how political it has become. Admin needs to get this under control
Quoting 306. LAbonbon:


Montana, your post was funny as h*ll. I downloaded a copy to forward to a couple friends and family members. (Not familiar with the Michigan Diary thing, but I get the gist.)
Good morning Bon..It was funny..:)...Sometimes when I post here it is misunderstood or does not have the desired affect...I keep tryin...:)
Conservatives wouldn't do that because they accept the process and don't continuously cry because they lost.
I needed a good laugh. I'm not laughing with you, I am laughing at you. This is the epitome of the kindergarten "I know you are, but what am I?" retort. Further proof that the Trumpets can only think at a nascent level. Get real, [redacted], republicans have done nothing but cry, whine, distort and block progress because a black man is in office.

You people make me sick. Accept the process my [redacted]. You only accept things if they fit your predefined world where you were created in the creator's image and anyone who looks or believes differently is to be snuffed out in His name. Anything that goes against this ancient worldview is also anathema.
Quoting 313. hydrus:

Good morning Bon..It was funny..:)...Sometimes when I post here it is misunderstood or does not have the desired affect...I keep tryin...:)

Morning, hydrus. Thought your comment was humorous as well. But his gave me a good ole belly laugh.

24F here. Rain today, snow tomorrow (4 to 8 inches).

Quoting 312. nchurricane:

Thank you for saying this. I have steered away from this blog lately because of how political it has become. Admin needs to get this under control


Quoting 283. Wacahootaman:

The comments on this site are almost all politics now. More like the Democratic Underground or the Weather Underground, the radical leftist "Weather Underground" of the 60s, not the weather site than its name, Category Six.

The moderators need to get this under control and return it to its mission of discussing the weather.



Right because understanding the basic scientific processes of Climate Change makes me a radical leftist...

#thisidoiticidealogicalthinkingisexactlywhatswron gwithtodaysworld

Come on IBM this is the slowest site on the internet. My favorites are suddenly all over the world; Moscow, Warsaw, London, Paris, Barcelona... not the ones I saved. I had to attempt to log-on five times, and close the browser and open it again, and finally I went to another weather site that was working fine. Came back here an hour later, and it was still the slowest loading page I've ever seen.
And scrolling back and forth is a nightmare.
Quoting 314. SouthTampa:

I needed a good laugh. I'm not laughing with you, I am laughing at you. This is the epitome of the kindergarten "I know you are, but what am I?" retort. Further proof that the Trumpets can only think at a nascent level. Get real, [redacted], republicans have done nothing but cry, whine, distort and block progress because a black man is in office.

You people make me sick. Accept the process my [redacted]. You only accept things if they fit your predefined world where you were created in the creator's image and anyone who looks or believes differently is to be snuffed out in His name. Anything that goes against this ancient worldview is also anathema.
We are two very separate countries. Anyone have any helpful ideas on working this out?
I guess Sahara got quite enough of rain this year.

270. luvtogolf: Bogus.

274. PensacolaDoug: But you enjoy politics on WU. It's easy to see.
The mods are doing a good job, even if it's not always equitable. Look what they have to deal with! JMO
Quoting 319. JNFlori30A:

We are two very separate countries. Anyone have any helpful ideas on working this out?

I think it's pointless to try. Good thing we won. The dems have had their power base decimated and seem to be losing the bubble. There is very little if any middle ground these days and they won't budge an inch in our direction.
Quoting 273. riverat544:


Who is Hussein?


That's his idea of an insult directed toward Barack Hussein Obama.
323. PensacolaDoug

And I thought you didn't like politics?
Quoting 317. ChiThom:

Come on IBM this is the slowest site on the internet. My favorites are suddenly all over the world; Moscow, Warsaw, London, Paris, Barcelona... not the ones I saved. I had to attempt to log-on five times, and close the browser and open it again, and finally I went to another weather site that was working fine. Came back here an hour later, and it was still the slowest loading page I've ever seen.
And scrolling back and forth is a nightmare.


weird everything is ok for me except the world cites at the top but I don't set those anyway so its fine as well

make sure you have 50 comments per page set to show on blogs that stops a script error if ya use max 200 views well slows everything way down

clear out cache and loaded pages on your histories

or that's what I do every time I log in it clears everything
Quoting 321. ChiThom:

270. luvtogolf: Bogus.

274. PensacolaDoug: But you enjoy politics on WU. It's easy to see.


I don't enjoy the level of animosity that we have reached. I dish it out too. I receive my share and more in return. I don't hate anybody here. If we were having these discussions face to face, it would be more civil.
We won?

Putin Won.

LOL

America lost,..a lot.

Semper Fi'

Try da Fish, it is FRIDAY.

Quoting 319. JNFlori30A:

We are two very separate countries. Anyone have any helpful ideas on working this out?
together you stand divided you shall fall
Doom Patrick, Doom everywhere'



‘LET IT BE AN ARMS RACE’


CONFUSION: Trump’s Team Has No Cohesive Message On Nuclear Policy...
Happy Festivus too.

The airing of Grievances has begun I see.

The feats of strength is at NOON EDT.

I cleared everything, KOTG., and then I landed in the 360° rainbow again!
And the international favorites are still showing where my own favorites used to be.
It s wu server issue and not a cache nor browser one.

The site is aware of it.
I agree, Pat.
Quoting 327. PensacolaDoug:



I don't enjoy the level of animosity that we have reached. .



We agree on that.
Well thought I would stop by to see whats new in the weather world today.
Once again I should of just went to CNN
Quoting 334. ChiThom:

I agree, Pat.


We have a bad server in the mix, and can't identify which one it is. We recently transitioned to Amazon Web Services, and they don't give us unique IPs of the servers used. The problem is random and will usually clear up after a page refresh.

Jeff Masters
Quoting 332. ChiThom:

I cleared everything, KOTG., and then I landed in the 360° rainbow again!
And the international favorites are still showing where my own favorites used to be.

Thom, I got the slew of cities yesterday. I deleted them one by one, and they've stayed gone. Took a few minutes, but it seems to have worked. Once they were deleted, my regular favorites were back, without me having to re-add them.
Quoting 323. PensacolaDoug:


I think it's pointless to try. Good thing we won. The dems have had their power base decimated and seem to be losing the bubble. There is very little if any middle ground these days and they won't budge an inch in our direction.



Since your side won, you should be looking for that middle ground.
Quoting 337. JeffMasters:



We have a bad server in the mix, and can't identify which one it is. We recently transitioned to Amazon Web Services, and they don't give us unique IPs of the servers used. The problem is random and will usually clear up after a page refresh.

Jeff Masters


Not meaning to be pretentious.

However, it might be time to switch to someone else if they can't figure it out. I deal with it, but it does get annoying.

337. Dr. Jeff Masters , Director of Meteorology (Admin)

Thank you Dr Masters.

338. LAbonbon Thank you Bon.

Many have no avatar. Posting times are not showing up as well. Still have the plus button though, at least on my end.
After clearing everything out, things are marginally improved, but still slow.
Quoting 323. PensacolaDoug:


I think it's pointless to try. Good thing we won. The dems have had their power base decimated and seem to be losing the bubble. There is very little if any middle ground these days and they won't budge an inch in our direction.



I like you, Doug. I just believe that you do not put enough thought into what the politics of this nation should be. You always seem to think of our government as a business and that our citizens should be treated according to what you think is good for business. Our government was set up by the people, of the people and FOR the people. A business does not behave in this manner. A government by the people, of the people and for the people does not hire, fire and layoff its citizens. A government by the people, of the people and for the people was never designed to make a profit in all that it does. Any government that is designed by the people, of the people and for the people can only "profit" through its citizens being well educated and healthy. Anything less would lead to a failure in a government that was designed by the people, of the people and for the people. We are all citizens under our government and all of our citizens should be treated the same. Many businesses have failed in this great nation and the governments that fail in this world are the ones that are not by the people, of the people and for the people. Good business leaders are not tuned to favor the employees, nor do they treat all of their employees the same. They are tuned to make a profit off all those that work for the business. There is your difference between good business practices and a government that is good for the people, Doug. I believe that you will do well in remembering this going forward. Too many of our citizens seem to have forgotten that we have a government that is by the people, of the people and for the people and those that have forgotten this seem to wish to turn our form of government into a profitable business. There are different names for this form of government. Do you remember what they are? A government that does not represent all of its citizens equally is headed for very stormy days.
Merry Christmas to everybody, left, right, center, or indifferent, (in case I can't get on between now and then.)
Quoting 342. washingaway:

Many have no avatar. Posting times are not showing up as well. Still have the plus button though, at least on my end.

My flag button has not worked for months. At least not appearing to register like it used to. Not that I used it often.
Wisdom is found here.

Quoting 344. Some1Has2BtheRookie:



I like you, Doug. I just believe that you do not put enough thought into what the politics of this nation should. You always seem to think of our government as a business and that our citizens should be treated according to what you think is good for business. Our government was set up by the people, of the people and FOR the people. A business does not behave in this manner. A government by the people, of the people and for the people does not hire, fire and layoff its citizens. A government by the people, of the people and for the people was never designed to make a profit in all that it does. Any government that is designed by the people, of the people and for the people can only "profit" is though its citizens being well educated and healthy. Anything less would lead to a failure in a government that was designed by the people, of the people and for the people. We are all citizens under our government and all of our citizens should be treated the same. Many businesses have failed in this great nation and the governments that fail in this world are the ones that are not by the people, of the people and for the people. Good business leaders are not tuned to favor the employees, nor do they treat all of their employees the same. They are tuned to make a profit off all those that work for the business. There is your difference between good business practices and a government that is good for the people, Doug. I believe that you will do well in remembering this going forward. Too many of our citizens seem to have forgotten that we have a government that is by the people, of the people and for the people and those that have forgotten this seem to wish to turn our form of government into a profitable business. There are different names for this form of government. Do you remember what they are? A government that does not represent all of its citizens equally is headed for very stormy days.
Quoting 337. JeffMasters:



We have a bad server in the mix, and can't identify which one it is. We recently transitioned to Amazon Web Services, and they don't give us unique IPs of the servers used. The problem is random and will usually clear up after a page refresh.

Jeff Masters
Cloud computing; convenient and economical -what more could you ask for? And secure? you betcha! Static IP? yesterday's tech! get with it, EVERYONE is in the Cloud! and what could possibly go wrong?
If it's snow you want, the west central Alaska region has snow in the forecast every day of the week.

Nome, Alaska

Today Scattered snow showers, mainly before 3pm. Patchy freezing fog before 9am. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 21. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Tonight Isolated snow showers before 9pm, then a chance of snow, mainly after 3am. Patchy freezing fog after 9pm. Cloudy, with a low around 12. East wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Saturday A 50 percent chance of snow. Patchy freezing fog. Cloudy, with a high near 24. East wind 20 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph.

Saturday NightA chance of snow before 9pm, then scattered snow showers after 9pm. Patchy freezing fog before 3am. Cloudy, with a low around 18. Northeast wind around 25 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

Christmas Day Scattered snow showers before 3pm, then a slight chance of snow after 3pm. Cloudy, with a high near 25. Northeast wind 20 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 35 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

Sunday Night A 20 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 11.

Monday A 30 percent chance of snow, mainly after 3pm. Cloudy, with a high near 18.

Monday Night A chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 8.

Tuesday A chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 15.


Tuesday Night A chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 4.

Wednesday A chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 11.

Wednesday Night Snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 4.

Thursday Snow. Cloudy, with a high near 22.
350. vis0

Quoting 328. Patrap:

We won?

Putin Won.

LOL

America lost,..a lot.

Semper Fi'

Try da Fish, it is FRIDAY.



if i may add...if Trump (and appointees) act as they have in their career and follow-up on their divisive threats

Humans loose

insects win

Its Friday? time for Kati Pouches ..spicy!...!!.....!!!!!!!! ahhh, nice.
Quoting 337. JeffMasters:



We have a bad server in the mix, and can't identify which one it is. We recently transitioned to Amazon Web Services, and they don't give us unique IPs of the servers used. The problem is random and will usually clear up after a page refresh.

Jeff Masters


I only touched the server room glass last Thursday so, well..I did leave a praline on the door..sooo.......


Quoting 330. Patrap:

Doom Patrick, Doom everywhere'

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%u2018LET IT BE AN ARMS RACE%u2019


CONFUSION: Trump%u2019s Team Has No Cohesive Message On Nuclear Policy...

Patrap it is time
Our little tree for the little ones.



Big tree for the big ones. All the ornaments are crystal, it doesn't show well on here.



Hand painted in Dresden, Germany


Fresh portrait of Barbara, my lookalike :-)


Maturing deep low SE of Iceland (Click to enlarge). Source.

Four Buses off Road in South Iceland
Iceland Review, by Vala Hafstað Society about 3 hours ago

Good downpour last night here in the SF Bay Area as an upper cold front associated with a warm occlusion came thru. Surface front will come thru shortly and temps are supposed to dive and instability to climb. Expecting snow down to 2000 feet, so the hills and mountains will probably be white by tomorrow and possibly give us at least a good view of a White Christmas.
hello all and a Happy Christmas Eve's Eve to you

Typhoon Nock-Ten and a lobe of the Siberian polar vortex in the same image.
Signing off to next week.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.

Live,Love,Laugh, and cherish one another for the gifts we are.



Quoting 358. wunderkidcayman:

hello all and a Happy Christmas Eve's Eve to you
Hey WKC, Are the kites flying this year?
Quoting 324. ChiThom:



That's his idea of an insult directed toward Barack Hussein Obama.

I knew that. It's just that he wants us to show respect for the President Elect when he's not willing to show the same respect to the current President.
Quoting 296. PensacolaDoug:



Said a representative of the group that has lost hundreds of seats in statehouses, most of the governerships, the house of representatives, the Senate ,and now the Presidency. In two years it will be even more lop-sided. Considering the magnitude of your losses the last 6 years, maybe its time ya'll moderated and comprised a little?


On the first point, I agree with you 100%. The Republican party has done an impressive job of building from the ground up, as opposed to the Democratic Party. Things will not get better for the Democratic Party anytime soon, unless the national Republican Party does exactly what the NC Republican Party just attempted to do. Then those "swing Democrats" and others that did not vote, may very well swing back to the Democratic Party.

On the second part, I disagree. You can't "moderate and compromise" with a party that has been hijacked by a movement whose sole goal is not to reform government, but to destroy it.

As I mentioned previously, it will be interesting to see if any moderate Republicans survive the purge or are even allowed to participate in the Republican Party. At the moment, that does not appear likely. We'll have to wait and see what happens with them, and whether or not they allow their voice to be silenced.
365. vis0
Here more news as to the planet NOT as to left nor right BUT IN THE CENTER that being Neutral Nature.



A year of dead coral, lost ice, drought and fire...Take it away Grothar (see Grothar posts (from wherever Grothar is  THEN a new blog comes on)


The planets health is everyone's issue.

 If your able to breath okay
odds are its because Mother Nature scrubbed out the pollutants and some
humans decided to make pacts/laws (with teeth)  to put less pollutants
into the air so smog was lowered here in the USofA. 

Some seem to think that
'cause the air became cleaner they can "reflith/re-pollute" it to the same smoggy
point it was 40 years ago then just clean it out again, that's called
abuse not progress cause it you do make more money you'll use EVEN more of it for doctor bills, waxing the car, washing the stuff (acid+) that ruins paint jobs. 

Ya know that feeling when one day you clean your car then bird re MAX poop on it. 
        & nbsp;       &nb sp;     
Don;t feel to good do you, that's what the present political climate seems to want to do to our planet.


[insert img of Betty Boop here] - poop poop pee doo
Imagine Doug, you making one weather post..here.

Quoting 339. ChiThom:



Since your side won, you should be looking for that middle ground.
I got something middle for them. One on each hand.
Quoting 344. Some1Has2BtheRookie:



I like you, Doug. I just believe that you do not put enough thought into what the politics of this nation should be. You always seem to think of our government as a business and that our citizens should be treated according to what you think is good for business. Our government was set up by the people, of the people and FOR the people. A business does not behave in this manner. A government by the people, of the people and for the people does not hire, fire and layoff its citizens. A government by the people, of the people and for the people was never designed to make a profit in all that it does. Any government that is designed by the people, of the people and for the people can only "profit" through its citizens being well educated and healthy. Anything less would lead to a failure in a government that was designed by the people, of the people and for the people. We are all citizens under our government and all of our citizens should be treated the same. Many businesses have failed in this great nation and the governments that fail in this world are the ones that are not by the people, of the people and for the people. Good business leaders are not tuned to favor the employees, nor do they treat all of their employees the same. They are tuned to make a profit off all those that work for the business. There is your difference between good business practices and a government that is good for the people, Doug. I believe that you will do well in remembering this going forward. Too many of our citizens seem to have forgotten that we have a government that is by the people, of the people and for the people and those that have forgotten this seem to wish to turn our form of government into a profitable business. There are different names for this form of government. Do you remember what they are? A government that does not represent all of its citizens equally is headed for very stormy days.
Is the type of government we have had in the last 8 years, in your opinion?
Quoting 367. SouthTampa:

I got something middle for them. One on each hand.


Sit on them and walk on yer elbows.
This is a political observation.

Note: I despise both political parties. In 2012 I voted for any candidate not associated with either party. In this election I simply refused to vote.

I was surprised by the Trump win. The demographics favored the Democrats and a recent ruling in Florida seemed to guarantee a Florida win for the Democrats. However, I understand the Trump win, and I am quite pleased with it. Trump destroyed the Neo-Cons hold on the Republican party. I suspect that any establishment Republican that is smirking now will find himself with deep mis-givings by spring.

I does not matter whether Trump does everything in a Republican wet dream or not. If they get what they want, they will be destroyed. If they don't, they will be marginalized. Either way the Republicans lose. The thing that bothers me is that the Democratic party is still yelling and screaming and playing turn of the century politics. They think the problem was the candidate. The problem is the party. If Trump runs in the 2020 election, the Democrats will lose. They might lose anyway, or end having the comedy that was the Republican primary. Either way, they lose.

This is a good thing. You have to clear away the rotting building before you can build something new. New is required. There are lot of things changing, and they are changing fast. Will we make the changes at the ballot box? Will it be done with demonstrations in the street? Will it be IED's and snipers?

I don't know. I do know that most people that are thoughtful at all, do not trust any major news outlet, including most web sites this includes the first page of hits on Google. (I typically search news, look inside, find names and other key words and do other searches. It is the only way to find actual facts.) In an environment of deceit, one tends to become more and more cynical.

On a more happy note: The price of solar + storage is falling fast, almost at Moore's law speeds. Additionally, I have done some rough numbers. I have found that for every doubling of energy input into the world economy, we get an increase in per person income of a factor of 10. Today, the center of the bell curve of daily income per person is at 10 dollars a day. At the current rate of increase of energy into the world economy, we can expect that the center of the curve will be at 100 dollars a day per person in 2050. (Family of 4 *400 a day times 365 = 146000 a year)

Cheers
Qazulight

This is a little off-topic but maybe good to remember with regards to politics. I just tried to read "Causes of the Civil War", a collection of essays. The first essay was so depressingly familiar in a way that I couldn't continue with the others. Apparently there were traveling speakers in the North and their analogues in the South who promoted completely different and often conspiracy themed messages. People on each side became so fearful that small armed conflicts broke out and then there was retaliation for each event that grew and grew until law just broke down and the civil war happened.

Out of basic morality, slavery should never have been allowed in the US, but that is a different argument.

My main point here is that today we get totally different information from our news sources. I hope we can keep talking to each other despite the big gulf in info.
Quoting 368. Kenfa03:

Is the type of government we have had in the last 8 years, in your opinion?


Yes. To an extent.
Quoting 337. JeffMasters:



We have a bad server in the mix, and can't identify which one it is. We recently transitioned to Amazon Web Services, and they don't give us unique IPs of the servers used. The problem is random and will usually clear up after a page refresh.

Jeff Masters


Doc, tell them to check the basement servers. It's the 3rd one on the left.

Quoting 371. annabatic:

This is a little off-topic but maybe good to remember with regards to politics. I just tried to read "Causes of the Civil War", a collection of essays. The first essay was so depressingly familiar in a way that I couldn't continue with the others. Apparently there were traveling speakers in the North and their analogues in the South who promoted completely different and often conspiracy themed messages. People on each side became so fearful that small armed conflicts broke out and then there was retaliation for each event that grew and grew until law just broke down and the civil war happened.

Out of basic morality, slavery should never have been allowed in the US, but that is a different argument.

My main point here is that today we get totally different information from our news sources. I hope we can keep talking to each other despite the big gulf in info.


https://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-Rise-Fall-Empire s/dp/0452288193

You might be interested in this one. I haven't read it yet. It is on my winter reading list. "War and Peace and War"

Cheers
Qazulight
In shorts and short sleeves and loving it. No it doesn't feel like Christmas, but I don't care, cause I'm in shorts and short sleeves.
Quoting 375. washingaway:

In shorts and short sleeves and loving it. No it doesn't feel like Christmas, but I don't care, cause I'm in shorts and short sleeves.



Lucky.
Quoting 375. washingaway:

In shorts and short sleeves and loving it. No it doesn't feel like Christmas, but I don't care, cause I'm in shorts and short sleeves.



Where are you located and what's the temperature?

82 degrees here in Fort Myers. The day started out cloudy but now the sun is out and it's a beautiful day.
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
379. MahFL
Quoting 337. JeffMasters:



We have a bad server in the mix, and can't identify which one it is. We recently transitioned to Amazon Web Services, and they don't give us unique IPs of the servers used. The problem is random and will usually clear up after a page refresh.

Jeff Masters


With all due respect I don't think that is the problem, the site has been slow for months.
This is a picture of the Dresden Strizelmarkt (Christmas Market). One of many in the city. I believe this site is a few hundred years old.

Quoting 363. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



On the first point, I agree with you 100%. The Republican party has done an impressive job of building from the ground up, as opposed to the Democratic Party. Things will not get better for the Democratic Party anytime soon, unless the national Republican Party does exactly what the NC Republican Party just attempted to do. Then those "swing Democrats" and others that did not vote, may very well swing back to the Democratic Party.

On the second part, I disagree. You can't "moderate and compromise" with a party that has been hijacked by a movement whose sole goal is not to reform government, but to destroy it.

As I mentioned previously, it will be interesting to see if any moderate Republicans survive the purge or are even allowed to participate in the Republican Party. At the moment, that does not appear likely. We'll have to wait and see what happens with them, and whether or not they allow their voice to be silenced.

Of course Hillary Clinton got nearly 3 million more votes nationwide than Donald Trump and it's just the vagaries of the Electoral College that gave him the victory.
Quoting 381. riverat544:


Of course Hillary Clinton got nearly 3 million more votes nationwide than Donald Trump and it's just the vagaries of the Electoral College that gave him the victory.


If you are going to play the game, then you have to abide by the rules. As much as I may not like he outcome, I am in favor of the Electoral College.
Quoting 382. THENOTORIOUSDADDYJ:



If you are going to play the game, then you have to abide by the rules. As much as I may not like he outcome, I am in favor of the Electoral College.
When the framers of the constitution were pounding out the agreement to form a new nation out of 13 colonies, the smaller colonies balked at the prospect of the more populous colonies being able to elect whoever they liked. To give the small states some say so in the presidential election, a compromise was reached via the development of the electoral college. In a very real sense our country may not have come together if not for this and other compromises to put the less populous states on equal footing.
Quoting 383. PensacolaDoug:

When the framers of the constitution were pounding out the agreement to form a new nation out of 13 colonies, the smaller colonies balked at the prospect of the more populous colonies being able to elect whoever they liked. To give the small states some say so in the presidential election, a compromise was reached via the development of the electoral college. In a very real sense our country may not have come together if not for this and other compromises to put the less populous states on equal footing.


Don't hate the player, hate the game?

When it works against you, it sucks, when it works for you it's great. Problem is that you can't have it both ways. The sword cuts both ways.
387. vis0
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i thought that was sir mix-a-meta(mucil), oh wait Grothar has the © on that

...as  Sir Mix-a-Meta(fore)

weather:: (sing-a-long...sooner than you "sink")

♪ Oh the weather OUTSIDE is delightful but the children are confused and acting spiteful
where's the cold, where's the snow & why the tropical flah-owhhH? ♪

On the "blight" side::
Again sure they'll be periods of bone chilling cold but still at years end the globe is warmer, of course not to worry as soon (40 years) Vinie's meat refrigeration will make a bundle when they change their business sign  to Santas i-gloo where people go to see how the North Pole felt before the islands of ice where replaced with the islands of tankers.  Coincidentally the i-gloos will not be made of snow but white glue due to the fact that humidity outside would fog up the joint if had real ice.

Have a safe [fill in whatever u celebrate]

just like in the near few-cha we'll have APPLE (a nokia company)  holographic holiday displays, where every 30secs 1 of that years top 100 celebrated beliefs will have a/its preferred holographic presentation in front of every state capital building including the blank screen for those that have nothing to celebrate and the reflecting screen for those too busy with themselves.
Don't forget that star you see rise every morning will for a period of 3 days be entombed then rise onto the right hand side of the universe from ONLY the NORTHERN hemispheres perspective, iyts been doing this of several tens of thousands of years - Sincerely
Just a messenger
10C in London today, LUL :)