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A quiet weekend in the tropics

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:23 PM GMT on October 25, 2008

The tropical Atlantic remains quiet today. There are no threat areas to discuss, and none of our reliable models are calling for tropical storm formation over the next seven days. The next area to watch is the Western and Southern Caribbean beginning on Wednesday, when a cold front will stall out over the area and potentially act as a nucleus around which a tropical storm could form. This should give time for flooding to subside in Honduras, where 29 are dead and 14 missing due to recent rains.

Saturday update on the Hurricane Ike portlight.org charity effort
Today, the Portlight truck will be on the hard-hit Bolivar Peninsula. You can follow the mission's progress through a newly set-up web site:

http://www.stormjunkie.com/portlight.php

Today's schedule:

Arrive to pick pizza up around 11:15.
11:30-11:45: begin trip out to Bolivar.
12:30-2:00: Hand out pizza.
1:30-2:00: Tour of Bolivar (will head down to billybadbird's old house).

If the tropics remain quiet on Sunday, my next update will be on Monday morning.

Jeff Masters
Bolivar Peninsula- Ike Relief
Bolivar Peninsula- Ike Relief
Unloading supplies at the Crystal Beach distribution center. Chambers County has adopted Bolivar and is handling relief their since Galveston County is not stepping up to the plate. Many thanks to Sharon Martin of Chambers County for pushing this issue!
Bolivar Peninsula- Ike Relief
Bolivar Peninsula- Ike Relief
Crystal Beach...Ike...These folks need help. Portlight.org

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Reader Comments

Thanks for the update on the Ike recovery jeff.
Thank you for the update Dr. Masters
dran no power
Thank you Jeff

Complete Refresh Blog
Mirror Site

The only Blob I could find. The CMC has this one coming into the Caribbean.



Click on image to enlarge
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day, I thought I might try to bring something interesting into it. I have been trying to have a contest on my blog, unfortunately, only 6 people have replied over a week. So, I'll try to bring it here. Any responses to this post count as entries.
Here are the rules and the topic.

Find the strangest track of any tropical cyclone in any basin. The contest will be graded on a scale from 1-6 in four categories, with 1 being average. The person with the highest combined score wins. If someone posts the storm before you, you have to pick a different one.

The four categories are:

Track
Strength
Time
Events

The storms taken already include:

Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic foggymyst
Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Western Pacific MichaelSTL
Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian wxgeek723
Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic LACajunKid
Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic SaoFeng
Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic Stormdude77

The winner gets bragging rights.
Quoting hurristat:
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day, I thought I might try to bring something interesting into it. I have been trying to have a contest on my blog, unfortunately, only 6 people have replied over a week. So, I'll try to bring it here. Any responses to this post count as entries.
Here are the rules and the topic.

Find the strangest track of any tropical cyclone in any basin. The contest will be graded on a scale from 1-6 in four categories, with 1 being average. The person with the highest combined score wins. If someone posts the storm before you, you have to pick a different one.

The four categories are:

Track
Strength
Time
Events

The storms taken already include:

Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic foggymyst
Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Western Pacific MichaelSTL
Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian wxgeek723
Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic LACajunKid
Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic SaoFeng
Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic Stormdude77

The winner gets bragging rights.

Typhoon Tip 1979 Pacific
Quoting hurristat:
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day...


I jinxed it, didn't I? That was 15 minutes and counting since my last post without anymore posts.
Thank you for the update Dr. Masters.

Orcasystems, yes, i see. wow!

When wrote: The only Blob I could find. The CMC has this one coming into the caribbean.
wow thereis already convection in the west carib. sorry nhc did not have their ir update gulf system looks like its trying
Stormjunkie, Presslord, Patrap and Portlight.org thank you for everything you do! Oh Dr.Masters get ready for some football today Michigan vs. Michigan St.
I really like satellite and radar images!

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/storm/content/storm/satellite
Quoting sporteguy03:
Stormjunkie, Presslord, Patrap and Portlight.org thank you for everything you do! Oh Dr.Masters get ready for some football today Michigan vs. Michigan St.


Go Blue, even though they suck this year. Actually, that's hard to tell if you compare both teams' scores last week. #13 OSU 45-7 #20 MSU. #3 PSU 46-17 UM. UM did 9 points better than MSU did against a harder team. Also, UM has won every game against MSU since 2001, when MSU won on a last second QB sneak. Personally, I would watch PSU vs. OSU first.
nice ball of convection southwest of the CV islands . some cyclonic turning there
Quoting hurristat:
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day, I thought I might try to bring something interesting into it. I have been trying to have a contest on my blog, unfortunately, only 6 people have replied over a week. So, I'll try to bring it here. Any responses to this post count as entries.
Here are the rules and the topic.

Find the strangest track of any tropical cyclone in any basin. The contest will be graded on a scale from 1-6 in four categories, with 1 being average. The person with the highest combined score wins. If someone posts the storm before you, you have to pick a different one.

The four categories are:

Track
Strength
Time
Events

The storms taken already include:

Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic foggymyst
Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Western Pacific MichaelSTL
Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian wxgeek723
Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic LACajunKid
Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic SaoFeng
Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic Stormdude77

The winner gets bragging rights.


Guess I'll take Hurricane Mitch (think 1998) in the Northern Atlantic.
Quoting hurristat:
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day, I thought I might try to bring something interesting into it. I have been trying to have a contest on my blog, unfortunately, only 6 people have replied over a week. So, I'll try to bring it here. Any responses to this post count as entries.
Here are the rules and the topic.

Find the strangest track of any tropical cyclone in any basin. The contest will be graded on a scale from 1-6 in four categories, with 1 being average. The person with the highest combined score wins. If someone posts the storm before you, you have to pick a different one.

The four categories are:

Track
Strength
Time
Events

The storms taken already include:

Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic foggymyst
Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Western Pacific MichaelSTL
Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian wxgeek723
Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic LACajunKid
Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic SaoFeng
Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic Stormdude77

The winner gets bragging rights.


Hurricane Hattie, 1961.
That blob coming in to S Fla could cause some heavy rains.
Quoting Cotillion:


Hurricane Hattie, 1961.


Does this include Simone and Inga?
Attention all hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stormjunkie and Rainman are about 10 minutes from arriving at The Bolivar peninsula....where we are hosting a WU pizza lunch for several hundred residents there working to rebuild their lives....can be seen and heard at the link in Dr. Masters blog......
Quoting Vortex95:
That blob coming in to S Fla could cause some heavy rains.


This one :)


Click to enlarge
Portlight truck entering Gilchrist and Bolivar. Please see Docmaster's link above to watch the live trip and join in the chat!
Quoting hurristat:


Does this include Simone and Inga?


There's dispute as to whether it all come from the same storm, but sure, put it as Hurricane Hattie-Simone-Inga. I don't mind either way.

that doesn' seem right the water vapor loop indicates a lot of water vapor in the blob? hmmm maybe its just not showing yet on sat?
Quoting Cotillion:


There's dispute as to whether it all come from the same storm, but sure, put it as Hurricane Hattie-Simone-Inga. I don't mind either way.



That dispute is why I asked. If it was Cesar-Douglas, or something to that effect, then I wouldn't have asked.
There is still a spin off N.E. Yucatan , slow ne movement or drift although storms that are developing near center are being pushed quickly of to the ne by shear. Nhc visible shows 1014 low at this position. Looks like to much shear.
The blob got here - pouring rain. At least we had some sun this morning - first time in days.

Mighty quiet here today.
Look between Cuba and Yucatan . The more I look at it I think we might get a td out of this although it may go threw the keys its hard to say how far the front comes down either way maybe in for a rainy, windy night in s. fl.
This could be interesting every visible gets a little more interesting. While everyone is watching football, me the gators killing pour wildcats. Anybody listening to canes game.
Wow, this is a slow day... I calculated the average delay, in minutes, between posts, and it's 7.538461, with all the numbers after the decimal place repeating.
29. IKE
36 days....
10 hours...
16 minutes and it's over~



TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER STEWART


30. KBH
is there a bit of cloud mass coming across from South America of any importance?
All right I'll see nobody later gone watch games a little closer to catch ticker.
32. NYX
IVAN

Ike I'm sure your right all I'm saying is look a visible in motion at nhc, I know the forecast but tell me what you think if you have the time to look. If not I would certainly go along with the forecast. I just mention things here in case some of the people that have some expertise might be sleeping or taking some time off before they check back in.
I calculated today's average space in between posts, and its 6 min 7 seconds. That's a slow blog day, compared to during Ike, when we averaged a new post every 25 seconds.
35. IKE
Quoting gordydunnot:
Ike I'm sure your right all I'm saying is look a visible in motion at nhc, I know the forecast but till me what you think if you have the time to look. If not I would certainly go along with the forecast.


Nothing in the Atlantic to worry with...season about over for the USA.
36. amd
Quoting hurristat:
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day, I thought I might try to bring something interesting into it. I have been trying to have a contest on my blog, unfortunately, only 6 people have replied over a week. So, I'll try to bring it here. Any responses to this post count as entries.
Here are the rules and the topic.

Find the strangest track of any tropical cyclone in any basin. The contest will be graded on a scale from 1-6 in four categories, with 1 being average. The person with the highest combined score wins. If someone posts the storm before you, you have to pick a different one.

The four categories are:

Track
Strength
Time
Events

The storms taken already include:

Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic foggymyst
Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Western Pacific MichaelSTL
Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian wxgeek723
Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic LACajunKid
Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic SaoFeng
Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic Stormdude77

The winner gets bragging rights.


Hurricane Ginger 1971 Northern Atlantic

Link
Quoting NYX:
IVAN



Does this have anything to do with current weather?
38. IKE
Deep trough in the eastern US. GFS 12Z at 78 hours....



MJO forecast being less bullish.

Be on the lookout from next week.
Quoting IKE:


Nothing in the Atlantic to worry with...season about over for the USA.
its almost rogue season time thats about it something popin close to home but generally on a n ne motion out toward central atlantic 36 DAYS 9 HRS 9 SEC

remain
Atlantic hurricanes typically form between early June and late November, although some have formed before or after that period.

MSNBC news said.
Quoting IKE:


Nothing in the Atlantic to worry with...season about over for the USA.


Yeah, I took down my remaining hurricance shutters late yesterday. They had been up since Tropical Storm Fay.

TWC said that a hurricane only hits the Mainland U.S. (Florida) once every 20 years (on average past 0ct. 20th).
And we had Wilma just a couple years ago. Plus the current weather pattern doesn't look favorable for anything moving up this way.

We could still see a late season Tropical Storm, but a hurricane is looking very unlikely.
43. IKE
Statement as of 12:20 PM EDT on October 25, 2008

The following are storm total rainfall amounts received across the
Tallahassee forecast area. Much needed rainfall fell as a storm
system moved across the northern Gulf of Mexico. This storm system
also brought minor to moderate beach erosion to the Florida
Panhandle coast and minor coastal flooding to areas between
Apalachicola and Saint Marks.

Storm total rainfall reports (8 am EDT Thursday to 8 am EDT saturday)

Automated surface observing sites

Albany regional Airport /aby/... ... ... ... ... ... .3.79
Apalachicola Municipal Airport /aaf/... ... ... ... 1.26
Cross City Airport /cty/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 0.52
Dothan Airport /dhn/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .2.21
Marianna Airport /mai/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.32
Perry-Foley Airport /40j/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..0.77
Panama City Airport /pfn/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..1.88
Tallahassee Regional Airport /tlh/... ... ... ... ..2.46
Valdosta Regional Airport /vld/... ... ... ... ... ..1.50

Cooperative observation sites

Apalachicola /aplf1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .1.30
Crisp County power dam /wwcg1/... ... ... ... ... ... 2.17
Cross City 1 E /crsf1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..0.56
Cuthbert /cbtg1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..3.85
De Funiak Springs 1 E /deff1/... ... ... ... ... ... .3.90
Fort Gaines /ftgg1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.84
Geneva /gvaa1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .3.24
Georgetown /geog1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2.50
Leesburg /leeg1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..3.09
Monticello 10 SW /mtcf1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2.14
Moultrie 2 N /moug1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .3.74
Steinhatchee /shmf1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .0.69
Tallahassee Airport /tasf1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2.59

Selected cocorahs sites

In Alabama

Dothan 5 W /al-hs-11/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.15

In Georgia

Fort Gaines 13 ENE /GA-cy-2/... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.42
Moultrie 6.2 SW /GA-cq-2/... ... ... ... ... ... ... .3.85
Albany 3.7 NE /GA-dh-1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .3.20
Putney 6.8 ESE /GA-dh-5/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2.98
Tifton 1.4 ENE /GA-tf-3/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 4.48

In Florida

Clarksville 1.7 SW /FL-cn-2/... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.35
Quincy 6.0 SW /FL-gd-1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .2.99
Havana 4.2 SW /FL-gd-2/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .2.52
Westville 12.7 N /FL-hs-3/... ... ... ... ... ... ... .3.86
Wacissa 1.1 SW /FL-jf-3/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1.82
Monticello 3.6 WSW /FL-jf-5/... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.87
Monticello 9.8 SW /FL-jf-6/... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2.14
Tallahassee 5.7 se /FL-ln-4/... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.49
Tallahassee 1.3 SW /FL-ln-10/... ... ... ... ... ... .2.96
midway 6.9 SW /FL-ln-18/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2.41
Tallahassee 8.3 N /FL-ln-22/... ... ... ... ... ... ..3.28
Madison 8 NNE /FL-MS-2/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .1.90
Saint Marks 9.2 W /FL-wk-1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1.75
De Funiak Springs 4.5 NW /FL-wt-2/... ... ... ... ..2.64
Freeport 3.4 S /FL-wt-2/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2.13
Vernon 10.6 WSW /FL-ws-1/... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..2.20
GOMEX is completely shut down from now till November 4th. Too much vertical shear at the upper levels. Looking like the coldest push of air so far will be digging all the way down to the Gulf Coast for Oct 28th.

Again the season is over for the gulf states as it has been since the 2nd week of October.
Quoting hurristat:
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day, I thought I might try to bring something interesting into it. I have been trying to have a contest on my blog, unfortunately, only 6 people have replied over a week. So, I'll try to bring it here. Any responses to this post count as entries.
Here are the rules and the topic.

Find the strangest track of any tropical cyclone in any basin. The contest will be graded on a scale from 1-6 in four categories, with 1 being average. The person with the highest combined score wins. If someone posts the storm before you, you have to pick a different one.

The four categories are:

Track
Strength
Time
Events

The storms taken already include:

Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic foggymyst
Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Western Pacific MichaelSTL
Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian wxgeek723
Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic LACajunKid
Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic SaoFeng
Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic Stormdude77

The winner gets bragging rights.


Is it okay if I say two?

'cause I'm thinking of Hurricane Faith (1966) and Hurricane 12 (1975).
Thats why I pointed that out keeper, Iam not a weather man but I lived in s. fl. for 55 yrs. Enough to know what you are saying is absolutely right I remember when h.c. season ended Nov. 1.
47. IKE
My updated inland Florida panhandle forecast for Monday night....

Monday Night
Colder...clear. Lows 33 to 38. North winds 5 to 10 mph.


Can you say COLD?
48. IKE
Quoting cmackla:
GOMEX is completely shut down from now till November 4th. Too much vertical shear at the upper levels. Looking like the coldest push of air so far will be digging all the way down to the Gulf Coast for Oct 28th.

Again the season is over for the gulf states as it has been since the 2nd week of October.


I agree...it's over here and been over for awhile. Temps near freezing Tuesday morning put the nail in the coffin.
Quoting IKE:
My updated inland Florida panhandle forecast for Monday night....

Monday Night
Colder...clear. Lows 33 to 38. North winds 5 to 10 mph.


Can you say COLD?


Wow, that's practically as cold as us.

50° F | 35° F
10° C | 2° C

For Monday.

Tuesday, seems we'll get a low of around the mid 20s. Brr.
66 more days until 2009 Atlantic hurricane season!!! LOL
I'm not going to post anymore I was just speaking of a possible organized rain event for s. fl. or the keys. Which is all a tropical depression is. The nhc has a closed low at the bottom of the stalled out front, the doc. mentioned something could from off this scenario. The visible looks like some convection was developing around this low ergo maybe a t.d. That's it.
That blob off the Cape Verdes looks interesting, 6 weeks ago it would have my full attention. But I have *NEVER* heard of anything developing out there so late--have y'all?
They have been talking about heavy rains here in South Florida for a couple days...Today's rain chance is 80%...LOL Its beautiful out here in Ft. Lauderdale. The other day when it was only a 30% chance of rain it poured and we ended up with almost 2 inches of rain. Even this afternoon and tomorrow they say rain likrly....LOL I will pack the sun screen then!
54. IKE
Afternoon discussion from Tallahassee,FL...

.SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH MON NIGHT.
SURFACE RIDGE WILL MOVE EWD TO A POSITION NEAR THE MS/AL BORDER
OVERNIGHT. SKIES WILL BE CLEAR AND WINDS LIGHT TO CALM. THIS WILL
SET UP SOME GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING AND MOST INLAND AREAS WILL SEE
TEMPS DIP DOWN INTO THE MID 40S WITH LOWER 40S IN THE NORMALLY
COLDEST SPOTS. SUN LOOKS TO BE ANOTHER GORGEOUS DAY WITH FULL SUN
ALLOWING THE DRY AIRMASS TO RECOVER NICELY FROM THE MORNING CHILL
WITH MID TO UPPER 70S THE RULE. ENERGY CURRENTLY UP IN CENTRAL
CANADA WILL SHARPEN THE ERN U.S. TROUGH BY MON AND DRIVE ANOTHER
COLD FRONT INTO THE DEEP S. THIS WILL BE A DRY FRONTAL PASSAGE THAT
WILL BRING A REINFORCING SHOT OF COOL AND DRY AIR TO THE REGION. THE
GFS IS A BIT SHARPER WITH THE TROUGH THEN THE NAM AND THEREFORE HAS
A QUICKER FRONTAL PASSAGE. THE GFS HAS BEEN INTERNALLY CONSISTENT
WITH THE TIMING OF THE FRONT AND WE WILL GO WITH THIS SOLUTION. THE
MAIN IMPACT WILL BE TO MON AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPS. THE NAM KEEPS US IN
THE PRE-FRONTAL MODIFIED AIRMASS WITH TEMPS NEARING 80 IN OUR FL
ZONES MON AFTERNOON. THE GFS SWEEPS THE COOLER AIR IN WITH AN EARLY
MORNING FROPA WITH MAX TEMPS SOME 5-10 DEGREES LOWER. WE SPLIT THE
DIFFERENCE FOR NOW WITH MID 70S SE TO UPPER 60S FAR NW. MON NIGHT
LOOKS TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE SEASON THUS FAR WITH COLD
ADVECTION BRINGING TEMPS DOWN INTO THE MID TO UPPER 30S OUTSIDE
URBAN AREAS AND AWAY FROM THE COAST. WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO STAY UP,
SO NO FROST IS ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME.

Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
That blob off the Cape Verdes looks interesting, 6 weeks ago it would have my full attention. But I have *NEVER* heard of anything developing out there so late--have y'all?


Here's one.
Monday night here:Colder...clear. Lows 38 to 41 inland...42 to 45 near the coast. North winds 5 to 10 mph.
Your link explains why nobody ever heard of Peter. But could be handy if they ever have a trivial weather underground pursuit game. Hey there's a money maker for the doc.
Quoting hurristat:
Thanks for the update.

Since this is a slow blog day, I thought I might try to bring something interesting into it. I have been trying to have a contest on my blog, unfortunately, only 6 people have replied over a week. So, I'll try to bring it here. Any responses to this post count as entries.
Here are the rules and the topic.

Find the strangest track of any tropical cyclone in any basin. The contest will be graded on a scale from 1-6 in four categories, with 1 being average. The person with the highest combined score wins. If someone posts the storm before you, you have to pick a different one.

The four categories are:

Track
Strength
Time
Events

The storms taken already include:

Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic foggymyst
Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Western Pacific MichaelSTL
Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian wxgeek723
Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic LACajunKid
Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic SaoFeng
Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic Stormdude77

The winner gets bragging rights.
Wow. This is Wayne (Miding) 1986. Does anyone think there's a stranger track out there???

59. IKE
#57, To follow on...

Hah. Wunderground Monopoly.

"Chance... Whoo, above average shear! $5 million to the other players."

"Hurricane forms under an anti-cyclone. Must pay $200 million to the bank." (Always millions and billions when it comes to this field.)

"Hotels on Belize, Honduras and the Yucatan please."

Instant hit, surely!?
#58

Perhaps not. But I chose Hattie for all 4 categories, as I don't think there's any better.

Track - Cat 5 going south, popping out the Pacific, then curving back into the BoC.
Strength - Cat 5. What else?
Time - Latest Atlantic Cat 5 even to this day.
Events - So destructive it caused Belize to relocate its capital.

It's even been quoted in a poem.

Quoting hurricanemaniac123:


Is it okay if I say two?

'cause I'm thinking of Hurricane Faith (1966) and Hurricane 12 (1975).


I take one, so I'll take your first choice, Hurricane Faith.
Quoting Cotillion:
#58

Perhaps not. But I chose Hattie for all 4 categories, as I don't think there's any better.

Track - Cat 5 going south, popping out the Pacific, then curving back into the BoC.
Strength - Cat 5. What else?
Time - Latest Atlantic Cat 5 even to this day.
Events - So destructive it caused Belize to relocate its capital.

It's even been quoted in a poem.



By, strength, I meant fluctuation in strength.
Quoting BahaHurican:
Wow. This is Wayne (Miding) 1986. Does anyone think there's a stranger track out there???



I dunno. You find one. The reason Wayne did that was because it never detached from its Monsoon trough.
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
That blob off the Cape Verdes looks interesting, 6 weeks ago it would have my full attention. But I have *NEVER* heard of anything developing out there so late--have y'all?
More likely, if it holds together at all, to drift west until it gets into the SW CAR. Ten days from now, MJO might be favorable for something there. Otherwise I don't expect anything either.
Quoting hurristat:


I dunno. You find one. There may be. If you can't beat Wayne's track, beat it in everything else. The reason Wayne did that was because it never detached from its Monsoon trough.


By the way, contest entries are due by the end of the month.
Quoting hurristat:


By, strength, I meant fluctuation in strength.
Ooops! I would have chosen a different one then.
Quoting Cotillion:
#58

Perhaps not. But I chose Hattie for all 4 categories, as I don't think there's any better.

Track - Cat 5 going south, popping out the Pacific, then curving back into the BoC.
Strength - Cat 5. What else?
Time - Latest Atlantic Cat 5 even to this day.
Events - So destructive it caused Belize to relocate its capital.

It's even been quoted in a poem.

Also inspired key events in the novel Beka Lamb by Belizean Zee Edgell.
Link

Not as erratic, but I think it had one too many tequilas.
Quoting pcbdragon:
Ooops! I would have chosen a different one then.


The loop things at the beginning of the track do count, you know that, right?
Quoting Cotillion:
Link

Not as erratic, but I think it had one too many tequilas.


Cotillion, I haven't rated all the storms yet, but you don't want to go around giving people ideas for them to use, right. ;) Let them find it on their own. It is a little loopy, though.
Quoting hurristat:


I dunno. You find one. The reason Wayne did that was because it never detached from its Monsoon trough.
Can I enter more than once? LOL

I'm thinking about Betsy


or even . . ..
Quoting gordydunnot:
Your link explains why nobody ever heard of Peter. But could be handy if they ever have a trivial weather underground pursuit game. Hey there's a money maker for the doc.


I'd buy. I have waaaaay too much random knowledge about weather, esp. hurricanes. But i'm not too shabby about other things.
7 months, 7 days hurricane15 till 2009 season...looks like you failed math class.
Quoting BahaHurican:
Can I enter more than once? LOL

I'm thinking about Betsy


or even . . ..


You haven't entered yet. I can take this one though. MichaelSTL took Wayne already.

For everyone else: I gotta go for a while, so post all your responses on my blog. My blog links funny, so you'll have to click a couple links. I will scroll through the posts once I come back though. See you all later.
Complete Refresh Blog
Mirror Site

The only Blob I could find. The CMC has this one coming into the Caribbean.



Click on image to enlarge
Quoting BahaHurican:
Can I enter more than once? LOL

I'm thinking about Betsy


or even . . ..


Betsy would be a Hurricane that would cause this blog a meltdown. The Fishcasters, Floridacasters, and Lousianiacasters
Quoting BahaHurican:
Wow. This is Wayne (Miding) 1986. Does anyone think there's a stranger track out there???


That is a pretty whacky track. God can you imagine being the forecasters at the Joint Typhoon Center..lol
79. IKE
Sunny in the SE USA this afternoon....

ikes track was unusual. pretty straight forward . the gulf system in another month with the conditions right really could pull an artic outbreak far south. interesting system nevertheless.
Quoting IKE:
Sunny in the SE USA this afternoon....

Not where i am. In Virginia it has been pouring all day.
74. cmackla, No!

66 more days until 2009 Atlantic hurricane season! I mean January 1, 2009!

New happy year and welcome to 2009 Atlantic hurricane season !!!!
Hmm, I didn't know that. Apparently:

"In order to accurately compare tornado frequencies between different countries, land area must be taken into account - after all, a large nation will report many tornadoes simply because of its large land area. When land areas are taken into account, the United Kingdom actually has the highest frequency of reported tornadoes per unit area in the world. This was first recognised by an American meteorologist, Dr. T. Fujita, in 1973."

We don't hear very much about them, though. They are usually weak, though the odd F2 have occurred.
I mean January 1, 2009!
January 1, 2009:

Happy new year and welcome to 2009 Atlantic hurricane season!!!
Quoting leftovers:
ikes track was unusual. pretty straight forward . the gulf system in another month with the conditions right really could pull an artic outbreak far south. interesting system nevertheless.


what gulf system...GOMEX is shut down
I found two rather strange tracks in the SHEM

These two are the same storm,
Severe Tropical Cyclone Katrina-Victor-Cindy
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/s_indian/1998/12/track.gif
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/s_indian/1998/22/track.gif

Tropical Cyclone Pancho/Helinda
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/s_indian/1997/19/track.gif

(still can't post images)
Happy new happy mean 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoting 15hurricanes:
January 1, 2009:

Happy new year and welcome to 2009 Atlantic hurricane season!!!
Quoting 15hurricanes:
Happy new happy mean 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!


What are you talking about...
I have Hurrricane Marco 1996
Tropical Cyclone Pancho/Helinda:
Only 1978 Atlantic hurricane season on record!

1. JANUARY, 18-23: subtropical storm
2. Jul. 30-Aug. 1: T.S. Ameia
3. Aug. 5-8 : T.S. Bess
4. Aug. 7-12 : Hur. Cora
5. Aug. 26-29 : T.S. Debra
6. Aug. 30-Sep. 5: Hur. Ella
7. Sep. 4-16 : Hur. Flossie
8. Sep. 13-20 : Hur. Greta
9. Sep. 12-21 : T.S. Hope
10. Oct. 2-5 : T.S. Irma
11. Oct. 7-11 : T.S. Juliet
12. Oct. 28-Nov. 3: Hur. Kendra

Subtropical storm formed in Atlantic in Jaunuary, 1978 !!!!
They added subtropical storm to 1978!!!
( Not 1977 )
San Ciriaco:
Hi everybody! What a cool bunch of graphics. I was going to nominate the rare storm that hit South of the Equator that we talked about a while back, but couldn't remember its name. I'm brain dead I think (or at least brain-dormant). Tommorrow day off. Maybe the grey cells will revive.
95. IKE
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


What are you talking about...


LOL.
NHC already knows!!!! hahahahaha!!!
Quoting 15hurricanes:
NHC already knows!!!! hahahahaha!!!


Im sorry but...im pretty sure no one has ANY clue what your saying.
99. IKE
Quoting 15hurricanes:
Did you know???


We do now.
The GFS and CMC have been developing something in the SW caribbean.
I like NHC. But i don't like William Gray!!!
Tropical Storm Olaf 1997.

Quoting Stormchaser2007:
San Ciriaco:
Quoting futuremet:
The GFS and CMC have been developing something in the SW caribbean.


Link?
Gray will be 80 years old in 2009!!! That's great!!!!
Evening all! The front has finally cleared SW FL. Humidity unbearable this morning but tonight it is absolutely beautiful.
Any news on how the pizza party went this afternoon? Did anyone get a chance to watch?
Looks to be an ugly night in South Fl., the good news is - cool, dry air is coming!!!

Quoting InTheCone:
Looks to be an ugly night in South Fl., the good news is - cool, dry air is coming!!!



It's beautiful outside right now. The air is much cooler and dryer already. You can see where the break is in the clouds from the front.
109. CapeObserver 7:41 PM EDT on October 25, 2008


Where are you Cape??


Here in West Palm Beach, it's still pretty balmy!

Our day is coming - yahoo!
Now here's a cyclone.
These two images of Saturn show the entire south polar region, not just the little area around the core of the hurricane-like vortex. Earth-like storm patterns seem to be powering this vortex.
111. PcolaDan 7:46 PM EDT on October 25, 2008

WOW!!
Quoting InTheCone:
109. CapeObserver 7:41 PM EDT on October 25, 2008


Where are you Cape??


Here in West Palm Beach, it's still pretty balmy!

Our day is coming - yahoo!


Cape Coral. Today was miserable, had a 5K to do and it was so humid, then it rained and then the sun came out to make it worse. Front seems to have come through, the air is much cooler and dryer. Or......it could be wishful thinking! I'm hearing 50 degrees Wed morning!! Can't wait!
Dan that is a really cool pic!
113. CapeObserver 7:49 PM EDT on October 25, 2008


Yep, we've done our time, summer is over - let the cool air roll!!

Used to LOVE to run, had to give it up due to aging knees, just stick to bike rides now.

Enjoy the winter!
116. JRRP
...TROPICAL WAVES...
TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 30W S OF 12N MOVING W NEAR 15 KT. WAVE IS
EMBEDDED WITHIN THE ITCZ AND AN AREA OF DEEP LAYER MOISTURE WITH
CLUSTERS OF SCATTERED MODERATE/ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION FROM
7N-12N BETWEEN 28W-31W. POSITION OF AXIS COINCIDES WITH A REL
VORTICITY MAXIMUM AS SEEN ON THE CIMSS WAVETRAK PRODUCT.
Quoting InTheCone:
113. CapeObserver 7:49 PM EDT on October 25, 2008


Yep, we've done our time, summer is over - let the cool air roll!!

Used to LOVE to run, had to give it up due to aging knees, just stick to bike rides now.

Enjoy the winter!


Read closely I did NOT say "run", LOL!!! I've already had a total knee replacement 3 years ago at 46. My running days are over. I was lucky to walk it at a decent pace. The air was thick as peanut butter. Went out for a walk tonight and it was so refreshing. Amazing what a difference 12 hours can make. I am ready for some breathable air!
117. CapeObserver 8:01 PM EDT on October 25, 2008


ROFLMAO!! I'm 50 - I get that!!
Quoting InTheCone:
117. CapeObserver 8:01 PM EDT on October 25, 2008


ROFLMAO!! I'm 50 - I get that!!


I join you next month. I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
119. CapeObserver 8:17 PM EDT on October 25, 2008

Well, we can't go back, so damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!!
Quoting InTheCone:
119. CapeObserver 8:17 PM EDT on October 25, 2008

Well, we can't go back, so damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!!


You from Mobile or what?

Hi everyone...I mean you two. Quiet in here of late. Goes along nicely with the quiet in the tropics.
122. JRRP
Good evening folks Glad to have the rain gone. It was very wet yesterday.

Article for Charleston Post & Courier
Roads flooded and motorists stranded after rain falls
By Prentiss Findlay (Contact)
Saturday, October 25, 2008

(I am editing for brevity - the complete article can be found here)

Some West Ashley residents were driven from their homes Saturday by flood damage from record-setting rain that flooded streets and stalled cars around the area the night before.

Impassable roads and stranded motorists were reported as up to eight inches of rain fell in the tri-county area until just past midnight Saturday.

Bartlett said there was six inches of standing water in the development of 32 townhomes in Shadowmoss. The Bridge Pointe flooding started around 9 p.m. Friday.

Charleston International Airport recorded 6.57 inches of rain, eclipsing the old record for the date of 2.38 inches. Slightly more than eight inches of rain was reported in Mount Pleasant and McClellanville, said Steve Rowley, meteorologist with the National Weather Service.

Low-lying areas in downtown Charleston were hip-deep in some places early Saturday morning when the rain finally ended, stranding dozens of motorists.

Later in the day, tow-trucks cruised through the neighborhoods around the Medical University of South Carolina, dragging cars stalled in the middle of streets. One driver said he assisted 65 people. Some abandoned cars had still not been re-claimed.

Up to three feet of flooding reported around Summerville caused stalled cars and blocked roads, according to the Weather Service. The Weather Channel reported water inside Northwoods Mall on Friday and several cars floating in the parking lot. Mall security and North Charleston police said Saturday that they could not confirm that information. No one in mall management was available for comment.

The Weather Service received reports of flooding in Charleston that made sections of Morrison, East Bay, Bee and Calhoun streets as well as parts of Ashley and Rutledge avenues and other streets, impassable.
Quoting atmoaggie:


You from Mobile or what?

Hi everyone...I mean you two. Quiet in here of late. Goes along nicely with the quiet in the tropics.


Hey there! Yes it is quiet, but at this juncture, there isn't anything wrong with that!
KEH, sounds like you guys got pounded. I spoke to someone in VA today and they said it had moved up there. Very messy.
Quoting CapeObserver:
KEH, sounds like you guys got pounded. I spoke to someone in VA today and they said it had moved up there. Very messy.


I hope it passes by them quickly.
We are used to rain and flooding, but even locals were talking about this one this morning.
All this talk of rain is making me nervous. PLEASE say there's nothing coming around SWF for the next couple of weeks!!!! I've rented a lovely waterfront house on Pine Island and don't want to see anything but sunshine and temps in the 80's for the next 2 weeks. Oh, I forgot to add snapper and other yummy seafood plus a cooler full of ice cold adult beverages... gotta have that!
Oops... so focused on the weather I forget to mention a few rounds with the little white ball and floating around in the boat catching some rays along with the fish. Oh man... it doesn't get any better than that!
Quoting JulieP:
All this talk of rain is making me nervous. PLEASE say there's nothing coming around SWF for the next couple of weeks!!!! I've rented a lovely waterfront house on Pine Island and don't want to see anything but sunshine and temps in the 80's for the next 2 weeks. Oh, I forgot to add snapper and other yummy seafood plus a cooler full of ice cold adult beverages... gotta have that!


Julie, I live just a couple miles from Pine Island proper. After the front finishes coming through tonight it's supposed to be clear and dry, nice and cool.

They said 50 by Wed am. Upper 70's to 80 during the day. This is why we live here, for the winter climate.

So I think, at least for the upcoming week, you will have great weather! Have a great stay and welcome to SW FL!!

Is this a nominee
Quoting 15hurricanes:
I like NHC. But i don't like William Gray!!!



Yea he is only the most brilliant meteorological maybe ever. Whats not to like ?
Quoting CapeObserver:
Any news on how the pizza party went this afternoon? Did anyone get a chance to watch?

Yes, I watched the live stream.It was a great pizza party. The guys did it up nicely. Thank God for Portlight.
Quoting sugarsand:

Yes, I watched the live stream.It was a great pizza party. The guys did it up nicely. Thank God for Portlight.


Thanks for the update. For the life of me I cannot get the streaming video. Grrr.
William Gray will be 80 years old in 2009!!!!
GREAT !!!!!!!
2008 Atlantic hurricane season:
I predicted 4 hurricanes or more before September 30 this year, and i did !!!!!


2009 Atlantic hurricane season:
We will see 4 hurricanes or more before September 30, 2009 again, i believe !!!!
=)
Evening folks =)
For a wild storm track, close to the USA, I have to go with my old favorite, Ginny:

With Gracie, which made landfall as a 110 kt/950 mb cat 3 as a close second:

140. JLPR
wow the area at 10N and 30W is looking really interesting tonight =O

Tropical Cyclone Outlook (0000z 26OCT)
========================================

At 5:30 AM IST, The Depression over west central Bay of Bengal and adjoining northwest Bay of Bengal remained practically stationary and intensified into a deep depression. The Deep Depression lays near 18.0N 87.0E or about 400 kms northeast of Visakhapatnam, 250 kms south-southeast of Paradip, and 550 kms south-southwest of Kolkata. The system is likely to intensify further and move in a north-northeasterly direction towards West Bengal-Bangladesh coast.
142. BtnTx
I wish there would be some way for those of us that could not be online at that time for various portlight.org live videos of what went on at Bolivar today could somehow download the video. But it is more important that portlight.org was there to help!!!
I think BeachFoxx was capturing the video.
146. Beachfoxx 4:24 AM GMT on October 26, 2008

A long day... hopefully I was able to capture a good portion of the Portlight Live Stream.... Very tired!

Great work PL! You guys are incredible!!!!


Good Night!!!!!


yup you may be able to see what was recorded from Beachfoxx computer.
India Meteorological Department

SUBJECT: CYCLONIC ALERT FOR WEST BENGAL COAST

At 8:30 AM IST, The Deep Depression over west central and adjoining northwest Bay of Bengal moved northeastward and lays center near 18.5N 87.5E or 460 kms east-southeast of Visakhapatnam, 220 kms southeast of Paradip, and 460 kms south-southwest of Kolkata.

Satellite imagery indicates organized convection and curved band pattern in association with the system. The intensity of the system is T2.0. Maximum 3 minute sustained winds near the center is 30 knots with gust of 35 knots and a central pressure of 1000 hPa. The state of the sea is very rough to high around the system's center.

Associated broken to solid intense to very intense convection is seen over the Bay of Bengal north of 17.0N and adjoining Gangetic West Bengal and Bangladesh.

The lowest cloud top temperature due to convection is about -70 to -80C. The sea surface temperature over the region is about 29C. The vertical wind shear of horizontal wind over the region is 10-20 knots. No significant change in shear tendency around the system during the past 24 hours. The low level vorticity has increased during the past 12 hours. The system lies cloe to the upper tropospheric ridge.

The system is likely to intensify into a cyclonic storm and move in a north-northeasterly direction and cross West Bengal-Bangladesh coast between 88.5E and 90.0E by Monday.
Hopefully that shear will keep it in check, that area doesn't need any cyclones.

As for us...

000
ABNT20 KNHC 260521
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER BEVEN

About as good as it gets. BBC are finally showing the NFL, so I'll be tuned into the Saints/Chargers game later!
Has anyone mentioned this already?
PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE REPORT ==
Region: OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
Geographic coordinates: 40.322N, 124.637W
Magnitude: 5.1 Ml
Depth: 18 km
Universal Time (UTC): 26 Oct 2008 09:26:50
Time near the Epicenter: 26 Oct 2008 02:26:50
Local standard time in your area:
26 Oct 2008 09:26:50
Location with respect to nearby cities:
30 km (18 miles) W (269 degrees) of Petrolia, CA
43 km (26 miles) SW (228 degrees) of Ferndale, CA
49 km (30 miles) WSW (247 degrees) of Rio Dell, CA
66 km (41 miles) SW (218 degrees) of Eureka, CA
336 km (208 miles) NW (307 degrees) of Sacramento, CA

Cheers AussieStorm
Will the wave at between 25-30 west be the last hurrah for 2008 season?

Looking good right now, how will SST's and wind shear measure up from the East Atlantic to the Antilles islands during the next week?

If this is not to be a cyclone, nothing will after this in 2008.

My thoughts only.

149. IKE
From Mobile,AL....

LONG TERM (MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY)...A STRONG LONGWAVE TROF MOVES
ACROSS THE EASTERN STATES AND INTO THE ATLANTIC THROUGH WEDNESDAY
WITH A COLD DOME OF HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING INTO THE FORECAST AREA
AND BRINGING WITH IT THE COLDEST TEMPERATURES OF THE SEASON. THE
COLDEST NIGHTS WILL BE MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY NIGHT WITH
TEMPERATURES NEAR FREEZING OVER INLAND AREAS.
PATCHY FROST WILL BE
POSSIBLE BOTH NIGHTS OVER INLAND AREAS. TEMPERATURES GRADUALLY
MODERATE BACK TO SEASONABLE VALUES BY SATURDAY WITH DRY CONDITIONS
CONTINUING.
150. IKE
35 days....
17 hours...
9 minutes and it's over....


TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER STEWART
Good Sunday morning! Just been checking the latest computer model data and couldn't help but be surprised at the possible temperatures in Florida. Some models suggest morning lows on Tuesday and Wednesday down into the upper 40s in the Everglades. Been amazing to see run after un from these models continue to trend downward with the temperatures once this "Big Mamma" cold front passes through. But, even if the lowest forecasted temps occur here, I will still be wearing a shirt and shorts. Don't get cold until it reaches freezing.
hurricane ike was more rare than any of twisty storms have a good one
153. IKE
This will be December weather in late October.
Morning everybody. It's back to overcast here. I'm glad I enjoyed the sunshine while I could yesterday . . .

At least the TWO isn't trying to send a 'cane our way LOL

Pretty cool morning in Florida. I have a feeling this Winter will be extremely cold.
Quoting Cotillion:
Hmm, I didn't know that. Apparently:

"In order to accurately compare tornado frequencies between different countries, land area must be taken into account - after all, a large nation will report many tornadoes simply because of its large land area. When land areas are taken into account, the United Kingdom actually has the highest frequency of reported tornadoes per unit area in the world. This was first recognised by an American meteorologist, Dr. T. Fujita, in 1973."

We don't hear very much about them, though. They are usually weak, though the odd F2 have occurred.


Parts of Brazil get a lot of tornadoes too.
Tuesdays going to be absolutly freezing here in Florida.

68° F | 40° F
20° C | 4° C
What does an Alabama divorcee have in common with a tornado?
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Tuesdays going to be absolutly freezing here in Florida.

68° F | 40° F
20° C | 4° C


For me here in Pennsylvania, it'll be 39 degrees F tuesday!
sooner or later....they both get the trailer....
Quoting TropicTraveler:
Hi everybody! What a cool bunch of graphics. I was going to nominate the rare storm that hit South of the Equator that we talked about a while back, but couldn't remember its name. I'm brain dead I think (or at least brain-dormant). Tommorrow day off. Maybe the grey cells will revive.


Cyclone Catarina?
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:
Tropical Storm Olaf 1997.



You and stormchaser2007 already have one. Someone else can take your second choice, like stormchaser2007 did with someone else's second choice.
Quoting all4hurricanes:

Is this a nominee


You already have one, but no.
Tropic ....I love "brain dormant"....Can I steal it and use it?
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
With Gracie, which made landfall as a 110 kt/950 mb cat 3 as a close second:



you also only get one.
I just finished looking through the blog for responses to the contest. Off to check my blog.
If you look at wikipedia, it's very cyclone-centric. The featured article is "Meteorological History of Hurricane Wilma" and the top news article is "Severe Flooding in Yemen caused by Deep Depression ARB 02 kills 58 and displaces 20,000."

Link
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Tuesdays going to be absolutly freezing here in Florida.

68F | 40F
20C | 4C


P'shaw... it's supposed to snow here tonight in Michigan.

Here's our Tuesday: 36F | 29F
2C | -2C
Morning all

Wanted to take a moment to say thanks to everyone from the people along the Texas Gulf Coast that were impacted by Ike. The efforts of Portlight and their donors has been appreciated more then can be rightly described. That said please continue to support Portlight in any way you can, as funding is exhausted we will all need to find new and unique ways to continue to help support their work. One great way that everyone can help out is by passing the Portlight link, name, and efforts along to others. This can include other blogs, emails, conversations, etc. We will be putting some of the webcam video from this trip on the web soon so that those that missed it may view it. Thanks again everyone!

Today we will be leaving Houston around 10:00. We are going to take a quick tour of some of the damage in Bridge City on the way home and you will be able to view all of this on the live webcam. We should be in Winnie around 11:00 and we will take the coastal road up to Bridge City. We may also do a short live broadcast from the Bridge City Fire Department with audio if Chief Uzzle is around.
Please pass the link to the webcam around liberally this morning!

Thanks again all
hurristat, do you have an updated list with all the storms taken?
Due to the continued downward trend for forecasted temps in Florida for next week in computer models, I have updated the CCHS Weather Center Florida Weather page to reflect this. If you're in Northern Florida, you will need to be prepared to protect plants and pets from the cold as overnight temperatures will drop well into the 30s Monday through Wednesday nights.
Slow blog. 4 posts in an hour!

Can we go back to some trivia?

I have a question:

What atlantic systems had their name taken away?
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:
Slow blog. 4 posts in an hour!

Can we go back to some trivia?

I have a question:

What atlantic systems had their name taken away?


Mike and Kendra. '50 and '66.
Quoting Cotillion:


Mike and Kendra. '50 and '66.


Correct.

What two years had 5 category 4 hurricanes?


billybadbird and where his house was behind him.

We will be on the road and the cam will be up in the next 20 minutes.
Thanks StormJ for keeping us updated.
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
DEEP DEPRESSION BOB05-2008
14:00 PM IST October 26 2008
========================================

SUBJECT: CYCLONIC ALERT FOR WEST BENGAL COAST

At 9:00 AM UTC, The Deep Depression over west-central and adjoining northwest Bay of Bengal remained practically stationary and lay centred near 18.5N 87.5E or about 460 km east-northeast of Visakhapatnam, 220 km southeast of Paradip and 460 km south-southwest of Kolkata.

Satellite imagery indicates organized convection and curved band pattern in association with the system. The intensity of the system is T2.0 Maximum 3 minute sustained winds near the center is 30 knots with gust of 35 knots and a central pressure of 1000 hPa. The state of the sea is very rough to high around the system's center.

Associated broken intense to very intense convection is seen over the Bay of Bengal north of 18.0N and west of 89.0E. Moderate to intense convection is also seen over the rest of the Bay of Bengal between 16.0N to 20.0N and 89.0E to 92.0E.

The lowest cloud top temperature due to convection is about -80C. The sea surface temperature over the region is about 29C. Vertical wind shear of horizontal wind over the region is 10-20 knots. Shear tendency is -5 to -10 knots to the north and northeast of the system. The system is moving to the north of the upper tropospheric ridge.

The system is likely to intensify into a cyclonic storm and move in north-northeasterly direction and cross West Bengal-Bangladesh coast between 88.5E and 90.0E Monday afternoon.


---
looks like the last TWO.. because Tropical Cyclone Advisories will be issued soon on a Cyclonic Storm in the Bay of Bengal now that the IMD indicate a Dvorak Intensity of 2.5 on their Kalpala satellite imagery.
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:


Correct.

What two years had 5 category 4 hurricanes?


Only aware of 1, which was 1999.

Have to go find the other.
Quoting pcbdragon:
hurristat, do you have an updated list with all the storms taken?


Ya...

foggymyst Hurricane Gordon 1994 Northern Atlantic
MichaelSTL Typhoon Wayne (Miding) 1986 Northwestern Pacific
wxgeek723 Tropical Cyclone Boloetse 2006 Southern Indian
LACajunKid Hurricane Juan 1985 Northern Atlantic
SaoFeng Hurricane Kyle 2002 Northern Atlantic
stormdude77 Hurricane Jeanne 2004 Northern Atlantic
pcbdragon Typhoon Tip 1979 Western Pacific
cchsweatherman Hurricane Mitch 1998 Northern Atlantic
Cotillion Hurricane Hattie-Simone-Inga 1961 Northern Atlantic-Northeastern Pacific
amd Hurricane Ginger 1971 Northern Atlantic
hurricanemaniac123 Hurricane Faith 1966 Northern Atlantic
BahaHuracan Hurricane Betsy 1965 Northern Atlantic
HadesGodWyvern Typhoon Hagibis 2007 Northwestern Pacific
leftovers Hurricane Ike 2008 Northern Atlantic
Hurricaneblast Tropical Cyclone Katrina-Victor-Cindy 1998 Southern Pacific-Southern Indian
all4hurricanes Hurricane Marco 1996 Northern Atlantic
Stormchaser2007 Tropical Cyclone Pancho-Helinda 1997 Southern Indian
Tropictraveler Tropical Cyclone Catarina 2004 Southern Atlantic
StSimonsIslandGAGuy Hurricane Ginny 1963 Northern Atlantic
Quoting Cotillion:


Only aware of 1, which was 1999.

Have to go find the other.


If you're including Cat 5's: 2005.
#180,

Yeah, but that'd be really cheap of a question if that was the other.

Though, I can't find any others.

Quoting Cotillion:
#180,

Yeah, but that'd be really cheap of a question if that was the other.

Though, I can't find any others.



Is he including the EPac and CPac?, maybe that's the solution.
Well, 1992 and 93 had 7 Pacific Cat 4 hurricanes.

Quoting hurristat:


Is he including the EPac and CPac?, maybe that's the solution.


If so, there's always 1993, which had 0 Cat 5's, 7 Cat 4's, 2 Cat 3's, 1 Cat 2, 1 Cat 1, and 4 Tropical Storms.

Cat fours make up just under half of this season.

Oops, Cotillion, didn't see your comment until I had already posted this. 1993 is more impressive than 1992 in that it achieved the same number in less storms.
Quoting Cotillion:
#180,

Yeah, but that'd be really cheap of a question if that was the other.

Though, I can't find any others.



It is 2005. I said two because wikipedia said that 1999 ended up tying with the 2005 season.
I'm frickin' freezing and these cooler temps. have only just begun...grrrr & brrrr - yup -no doubt, it's wetsuit time. Cold front is bring some bump./wave to the Gulf of Mexico -- jeeze I'm getting too old to get too cold.

ORCA -- stop blowing your moose breath down here
187. KRL
On a positive note from this season,

Lake Okeechobee water level as of Oct 26, 2008

14.90 ft.

The norm is 15 ft so the drought levels are now long gone and South Florida has its Lake 0 water supply back again.

Quoting hurricanemaniac123:


It is 2005. I said two because wikipedia said that 1999 ended up tying with the 2005 season.


Well, I guess Emily, Katrina, Rita, and Wilma had to be a Cat. 4 at some point... but still, then the most storms maxing out at Cat. 4 record belongs to 1999.
Quoting surfmom:
I'm frickin' freezing and these cooler temps. have only just begun...grrrr & brrrr - yup -no doubt, it's wetsuit time. Cold front is bring some bump./wave to the Gulf of Mexico -- jeeze I'm getting too old to get too cold.

ORCA -- stop blowing your moose breath down here


Mornin' Surfmom... I tried to tell him that, but it doesn't work. Instead, he turned around and gave me snow tonight. Tuesday's high is supposed to be at or around 36 here. I feel bad for all the little girls who will go around trick-or-treating in princess outfits when it's 35 degrees on Friday night.
KRL - now if the levee's could be addressed so they don't have to keep dumping that water into the glades.......
HURRISTAT - yeah, little girls in princess outfits and old surfmom's that want to wear bikini's instead of wetsuits........ (well maybe that's not a good sight LOL)

don't really want to come off as a whiner, I know how fortunate I am.... some of us just want an endless summer..... jumping out now for a few rides on coldfront swell while the Sun is bright and b/4 the reality of Monday & real life responsibilities smack me in the face.

Much appreciation to the PORTLIGHT.ORG crew working selflessly on this Sunday ....For the Better Good of All. (also to the spouses/mates who support their loved ones in this endeavor)
Hey Surfmom,

Missed you around here this week.

Going out to enjoy the day, myself.

Have a good one.
Present Satellite, Area of Interest Cape Verde
The CMC run has this one tracking west.
Looks like the day crew is here. Surfmom, Orca, and Rob. Now all that we're missing is StormW.
Quoting surfmom:
I'm frickin' freezing and these cooler temps. have only just begun...grrrr & brrrr - yup -no doubt, it's wetsuit time. Cold front is bring some bump./wave to the Gulf of Mexico -- jeeze I'm getting too old to get too cold.

ORCA -- stop blowing your moose breath down here


Now now.. you guys imported your own Moose.. not mine :) Sarah is there.. gun and all :) Just think, if she stays.. you can have that weather all of the time :)

Quoting Orcasystems:
Present Satellite, Area of Interest Cape Verde
The CMC run has this one tracking west.


It might be yellow alert today.
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:


It might be yellow alert today.


I think I can see rotation.. granted slow and small.. but rotation none the less.
Quoting Orcasystems:


Now now.. you guys imported your own Moose.. not mine :) Sarah is there.. gun and all :) Just think, if she stays.. you can have that weather all of the time :)



Time to move to N. Dakota.
Orca - b/4 I split -- please keep your polar bear, moose breath up north.... you can come visit -- but please keep the draft up there where it belongs.

Hi Rob -- trip went not as I planned, but it was certainly an adventure - red flags, purple flags, bull sharks, couldn't find Captn' Jack, but in the most peculiar moments of time,place and intersection -- I found my old friend (whom I had lost contact with for over 2 years) Calypso w/her brand new baby on the middle of an empty, vast, huge miles long beach -- the Universe is an amazing force.
I wonder if Zoo has dried out yet??



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Quoting surfmom:
Orca - b/4 I split -- please keep your polar bear, moose breath up north.... you can come visit -- but please keep the draft up there where it belongs.



Someone is loosing their nice warm, dry & cheery sense of humour :)
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Present Satellite, Area of Interest Cape Verde
The CMC run has this one tracking west.

Present Satellite, Area of Interest Florida

Present Satellite picture Caribbean
Present Satellite picture GOM
Present Satellite picture Mid Atlantic
Present Satellite picture Cape Verde
Present Satellite picture Large overall Coverage
CMC 00Z..
Time Left ... in Hurricane Season
Surfmom

...I found my old friend (whom I had lost contact with for over 2 years) Calypso w/her brand new baby on the middle of an empty, vast, huge miles long beach -- the Universe is an amazing force.

That sounds nice, indeed some of the best times in life are total surprises. My favorite "adventures" have been on days that started with no plan at all.

hurristat..Hi, just popped in for a few minutes, now going back out to see where the day takes me...
194 ORCA - ROTFL - but if she stays.... I'm leaving.... --I'd rather smell real moose breath --then deal with bad breath...I'm out the Lady of the Gulf is Calling..... and she ain't got no Bull Sharks!!

Orca -- I'd had my first shark experience -- no problems......but the fin swimming by me-- it was nothing I ever want to see again.!!!!
Quoting surfmom:
194 ORCA - ROTFL - but if she stays.... I'm leaving.... --I'd rather smell real moose breath --then deal with bad breath...I'm out the Lady of the Gulf is Calling..... and she ain't got no Bull Sharks!!

Orca -- I'd had my first shark experience -- no problems......but the fin swimming by me-- it was nothing I ever want to see again.!!!!


Then I might suggest that you not offer the the shark one of it favourite meals... Surfer on Fiberglas platter.
y u got florida as an area of interest I know a pop up TS is possible during the next week for S Fla but nothing is there now.

Do you know the time window when this TC is going to have a chance to develop?
Quoting Vortex95:
y u got florida as an area of interest I know a pop up TS is possible during the next week for S Fla but nothing is there now.

Do you know the time window when this TC is going to have a chance to develop?


I am not sure if they are going to get anything soon.. but the models still have the Caribbean perking a little bit..and if anything pops up right now.. you can see where its heading. I thought they might get something yesterday or today from the blob off Cuba.
btw did you see that 990 mb thing come from the North Pole all the way down to Spain on the CMC? weird.
I think your having TS marco syndrome its too small to develop :P.
P.S. I also like to see when its wet in Southern Florida, there are certain people who will remain unnamed.. who like to point out its raining and cold up here. I am not the type of person who would say that SM & Z need a little rain :)
I think it's really funny what the topics of discussion are with certain people. With Cotillion and hurricanemaniac123 and I, it's a lot of trivia questions and things like that. With Rob and Orca and surfmom, it often turns to random things. Like last week we were talking about the Stanley Cup. Very strange.
Hope November treats Florida as good as October.
We were lucky with Noel last year hopefully any that pop up near us will die down.

Dang Teddy 40 degress whre you are? North Florida is supposed to get down to 58/59 here in North Dade.
Quoting hurristat:
I think it's really funny what the topics of discussion are with certain people. With Cotillion and hurricanemaniac123 and I, it's a lot of trivia questions and things like that. With Rob and Orca and surfmom, it often turns to random things. Like last week we were talking about the Stanley Cup. Very strange.


I missed the Stanley cup chat??
Random chats are good.. weather trivia doesn't do anything for me, so I seldom stick around when its happening.
Quoting Vortex95:
Hope November treats Florida as good as October.
We were lucky with Noel last year hopefully any that pop up near us will die down.

Dang Teddy 40 degress whre you are? North Florida is supposed to get down to 58/59 here in North Dade.


54 on tuesday in East Hialeah
Quoting hurricanealley:


54 on tuesday in East Hialeah


I'll trade you.. here is our weather

Colwood
BC
Quoting Orcasystems:
P.S. I also like to see when its wet in Southern Florida, there are certain people who will remain unnamed.. who like to point out its raining and cold up here. I am not the type of person who would say that SM & Z need a little rain :)


Sorry... I'll stop. It's just that I like the cold, and when they complain about it, it bothers me when their low is higher than my high. What does SM&Z mean?, or is it a topic that Dr. Masters would prefer we not talk about on here?
Quoting Vortex95:
Hope November treats Florida as good as October.
We were lucky with Noel last year hopefully any that pop up near us will die down.

Dang Teddy 40 degress whre you are? North Florida is supposed to get down to 58/59 here in North Dade.


54 on tuesday in East Hialeah
Been an ugly weekand here, very cloudy for 70% of the day time exept from sunrise till 2pm on Sat. Raining on and off quite depressing. I'd rather have it storming like mad than looking outside and seeing stormless clouds all over the afternoon sky.
Quoting hurristat:


Sorry... I'll stop. It's just that I like the cold, and when they complain about it, it bothers me when their low is higher than my high. What does SM&Z mean?, or is it a topic that Dr. Masters would prefer we not talk about on here?


ROFLMAO, SM = Surfmom
Z = ZooMiami
Quoting Orcasystems:


I missed the Stanley cup chat??
Random chats are good.. weather trivia doesn't do anything for me, so I seldom stick around when its happening.


Nope, you were there... remember you said that Calgary didn't have a hockey team and you referred to the Florida hockey teams as triple a teams.
Damn computer
They dropped it down to 57 for my area code on weather.com so it will be lil colder since im literally at the most north of my area code.
Quoting hurristat:


Nope, you were there... remember you said that Calgary didn't have a hockey team and you referred to the Florida hockey teams as triple a teams.


I thought so.. hate to have missed it :)
Quoting Orcasystems:


ROFLMAO, SM = Surfmom Z = ZooMiami


Just because I don't know your acronyms doesn't mean it's funny. (JK) ;)
Quoting Orcasystems:


I'll trade you.. here is our weather

Colwood
BC


No thanks lol
Florida and generally S Fla is near the equator so more equal temps and thus mild winters and moderate summers. It is rare to have temps over 95 on any summer day and its rare to have temps under 40 on any winter day.
Quoting hurristat:


Just because I don't know your acronyms doesn't mean it's funny. (JK) ;)


I knew where you were going with it :)
After I read yours..I went there also.. thats why I said who it was :)
Quoting hurricanealley:


No thanks lol


I have to go out and clean the Koi pond for the Fall season. I do NOT have hip waders, and the pond is three feet deep... want to take my place :)
will we see a El Nino this winter ?
44 degress lol... the lows get into the 40s 5-6 days a winter here, we lucky people :).

The coldest I remember was last winter the low was 28 for our area unluckly my clock alarm didn't ring at 8am for me to feel it and it was already in the 40s by the time 10:30 I rolled around :(. Although the coldest temp in Florida I remember being in was 19 degrees in St. Augustine back on a winter trip I took. The high was 38 sheesh that was a cold day winds were minimal thank goodness. The coldest temp I was ever in was 12 degress in Delaware in 1998.
And I've never seen snow :/.
Quoting hurricanealley:
will we see a El Nino this winter ?


No

THERE IS EXCELLENT AGREEMENT IN THE FORECAST FOR NINO 3.4 SST ANOMALIES IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. A CONSENSUS OF THE FORECASTS MAINTAINS ENSO-NEUTRAL CONDITIONS WELL INTO NEXT YEAR. THEREFORE THE SUITE OF TEMPERATURE AND RECIPITATION FORECASTS DOES NOT USE COMPOSITES BASED ON EL NINO OR LA NINA.

THE TEMPERATURE OUTLOOK FOR NDJ 2008-09 CALLS FOR ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ACROSS MOST AREAS BETWEEN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS AND THE APPALACHIANS, IN ADDITION TO SOUTH-CENTRAL ALASKA. THESE EXPECTED AREAS OF ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE DUE PRIMARILY TO RECENT TEMPERATURE TRENDS AND FOLLOW FAIRLY CLOSELY THE OBJECTIVE CONSOLIDATION FORECAST, WHICH INCLUDES THE STATISTICAL FORECAST TOOLS AND THE CFS FORECAST. ELSEWHERE, EQUAL CHANCES OF BELOW-, NEAR-, AND ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE PREDICTED.
Quoting hurricanealley:
will we see a El Nino this winter ?


What does that mean? Next summer, the prediction is that the ENSO will be in a weak to moderate La Nina, so probably not. Not that the ENSO means much to TCs in the winter.
Quoting hurristat:


What does that mean? Next summer, the prediction is that the ENSO will be in a weak to moderate La Nina, so probably not. Not that the ENSO means much to TCs in the winter.


Link
Quoting Vortex95:
44 degress lol... the lows get into the 40s 5-6 days a winter here, we lucky people :).

The coldest I remember was last winter the low was 28 for our area unluckly my clock alarm didn't ring at 8am for me to feel it and it was already in the 40s by the time 10:30 I rolled around :(. Although the coldest temp in Florida I remember being in was 19 degrees in St. Augustine back on a winter trip I took. The high was 38 sheesh that was a cold day winds were minimal thank goodness. The coldest temp I was ever in was 12 degress in Delaware in 1998.
And I've never seen snow :/.



You should come up north this winter. It's time to see some snow.
Quoting Orcasystems:


Link


I meant what was the purpose of asking the question about ENSO in the winter, not next summer.

I know what ENSO is.
Quoting Vortex95:
Hope November treats Florida as good as October.
We were lucky with Noel last year hopefully any that pop up near us will die down.

Dang Teddy 40 degress whre you are? North Florida is supposed to get down to 58/59 here in North Dade.


Thats what they told me. Plant City with a Low of 40 Degrees on Tuesday. Sheesh, already I have to wip out the jacket.
No posts in almost a half an hour! Where did everyone go?
TampaSpin is probably not too happy. His Rays lost in the 9th inning last night.
Aaaahhhhh. Peace and quiet.
Quoting hurristat:
TampaSpin is probably not too happy. His Rays lost in the 9th inning last night.


I didn't watch the game.. but your right...Tim will not be happy
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:
No posts in almost a half an hour! Where did everyone go?


Off to lunch and to taking the koi out of their pond :). By the way, since the new blog was started, we have been averaging a new post every 6 min 27 seconds. That's really slow.
Quoting Orcasystems:


I didn't watch the game.. but your right...Tim will not be happy


I didn't either. I just read about it. :)
Note from NOAA !!!

Even if La Nina fades, NOAA said that wasn't change the conditions conducive to more hurricanes- reduced vertical wind shear across the western tropical Atlantic.
Quoting hurristat:


I didn't either. I just read about it. :)


I will watch the last game.. which will probably be game 5 (Tim sees this he will go ballistic)
go dolphins... anyways fort lauderdale will be 56 Tuesday morning, I know everyone who lives up north is rolling their eyes but hey it's the same feeling we get when you guys get upto 90 twice a year and broadcast it....lol
Quoting 954FtLCane:
go dolphins... anyways fort lauderdale will be 56 Tuesday morning, I know everyone who lives up north is rolling their eyes but hey it's the same feeling we get when you guys get upto 90 twice a year and broadcast it....lol


trade you :)

Climate

Victoria has a temperate climate that is usually classified as Marine west coast(Cfb),[7] with mild, damp winters and relatively dry and mild summers. It is sometimes classified as a Mediterranean climate (Csb).[8]

Daily temperatures rise above 30°C (86°F) on an average of one or two days per year and fall below -5°C (23°F) on an average of only 2 nights per year. During the winter, the average daily high and low temperatures are 8.2°C (47°F) and 3.6°C (38°F), respectively. The summer months are equally mild, with an average high temperature of 19.6°C (67°F) and low of 11.3°C (52°F). Victoria does occasionally experience more extreme temperatures. The highest temperature ever recorded in Victoria was 36.3°C (97.3°F) on July 11, 2007, while the coldest temperature on record was -15.6°C (4°F) on December 29, 1968 and January 28, 1950. Victoria has not recorded a temperature below -10°C (14°F) since 1990.
Quoting 954FtLCane:
go dolphins... anyways fort lauderdale will be 56 Tuesday morning, I know everyone who lives up north is rolling their eyes but hey it's the same feeling we get when you guys get upto 90 twice a year and broadcast it....lol


Where I live, usually we get up into the 90's a lot during the summer and below zero a lot in the winter. Gotta love Michigan.

But your point is very valid.
Quoting Orcasystems:


trade you :)

Climate

Victoria has a temperate climate that is usually classified as Marine west coast(Cfb),[7] with mild, damp winters and relatively dry and mild summers. It is sometimes classified as a Mediterranean climate (Csb).[8]

Daily temperatures rise above 30°C (86°F) on an average of one or two days per year and fall below -5°C (23°F) on an average of only 2 nights per year. During the winter, the average daily high and low temperatures are 8.2°C (47°F) and 3.6°C (38°F), respectively. The summer months are equally mild, with an average high temperature of 19.6°C (67°F) and low of 11.3°C (52°F). Victoria does occasionally experience more extreme temperatures. The highest temperature ever recorded in Victoria was 36.3°C (97.3°F) on July 11, 2007, while the coldest temperature on record was -15.6°C (4°F) on December 29, 1968 and January 28, 1950. Victoria has not recorded a temperature below -10°C (14°F) since 1990.


GLOBAL WARMING!!
253. IKE
12Z GFS continues to show southern Caribbean development in about a week...Link
Believe it or not we actually have had snow (story & link below) in South Fl before but generally we are in the upper 70's during the day and 60's at night during the winter.... I don't know if it's worth the tradeoff during the summer of endless 90 degree afternoons though....
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On January 19, 1977, Old Man Winter paid an unwelcomed visit to residents of Miami, Florida (yes, Florida, not Ohio) and brought along a surprise gift -- snow! For the first time in the history of the extreme south of Florida, snow danced through the air and dusted the ground briefly. A quarter century later, the scene has not been repeated....

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2002/alm02jan.htm

Quoting 954FtLCane:
Believe it or not we actually have had snow (story & link below) in South Fl before but generally we are in the upper 70's during the day and 60's at night during the winter.... I don't know if it's worth the tradeoff during the summer of endless 90 degree afternoons though....
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On January 19, 1977, Old Man Winter paid an unwelcomed visit to residents of Miami, Florida (yes, Florida, not Ohio) and brought along a surprise gift -- snow! For the first time in the history of the extreme south of Florida, snow danced through the air and dusted the ground briefly. A quarter century later, the scene has not been repeated....

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2002/alm02jan.htm



Instead of this: http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2002/alm02jan.htm

Do this: Link
Quoting 954FtLCane:
Believe it or not we actually have had snow (story & link below) in South Fl before but generally we are in the upper 70's during the day and 60's at night during the winter.... I don't know if it's worth the tradeoff during the summer of endless 90 degree afternoons though....
-----------------------------------------------

On January 19, 1977, Old Man Winter paid an unwelcomed visit to residents of Miami, Florida (yes, Florida, not Ohio) and brought along a surprise gift -- snow! For the first time in the history of the extreme south of Florida, snow danced through the air and dusted the ground briefly. A quarter century later, the scene has not been repeated....

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2002/alm02jan.htm



Were you there for it or were you not born yet?
quiet in here today...been lurking for a few... if anyone is still here...has snowed a few times here in Charleston, SC...twice that it actually stuck hard for more than a few hours, several times enough flurry to shut down the bridges since we have no snow removal equipment...bridges ice over quick so they close them...a lot different than the blizzard of 78-79 I went through in Ohio...snowed into our houses for days...once the plows came thru...the snow was piled as high as the telephone poles
hurristat
I have not idea how to change or setup my picture icon much less how to setup a link... every time I've tried to set up my picture it hasn't worked
Afternoon all.

About to broadcast live from the Bridge City Fire Department where Chief Dickie Uzzle will speak about what him and his town has gone through since Ike.

Should be on just a little after 1:30 CDT
yes I was, I'm a S Fla native but I was only 9 and don't remember it snowing. I do remember seeing smoke rising from Biscayne bay though but it hasn't gotten that cold in at least 10 years down here... we haven't seen frost in years... hmm i wonder why
to get your avatar you have to go to your wunderphotos...once in your photos...click add a portrait...should work that way
hi ya SJ...how goes it?
Quoting tiggeriffic:
quiet in here today...been lurking for a few... if anyone is still here...has snowed a few times here in Charleston, SC...twice that it actually stuck hard for more than a few hours, several times enough flurry to shut down the bridges since we have no snow removal equipment...bridges ice over quick so they close them...a lot different than the blizzard of 78-79 I went through in Ohio...snowed into our houses for days...once the plows came thru...the snow was piled as high as the telephone poles



HI TIGGERIFIC!! I haven't seen you in a couple months, when I was lurking.
hi hurristat...been here, mostly lurked...couldn't stand the trolls...was around all the way thru Ike and them some... =)
I remember some people I know talking about it from what I heard it snowed for about 15-20 minutes and it was basically a snow flurry the snow landed on the ground and evaporated after a few minutes. Still an incredible sight to see one the less. I remember about 10 years ago there was a frost in South Florida that put ice on some cars.
blog freeze or did it get quiet again?
Even though it wasn't tropical weather, we had some hellacious rain the other day...lots of areas in Charleston were flooded...took cars out, got into homes...etc...it added up to about 7 inches by us in about 24 hours....
On January 19, 1977, Old Man Winter paid an unwelcomed visit to...

I remember that well, got to school and we were all trying to scrape up enough to make muddy snow balls!

Hey Tig, always nice to see you bounce in.


gonna head on over to the Portlight Cam
and watch SJTV or a while.
Uusally strong cold fronts come from the arctic but they usally get disrupted and weakened by the jet stream and weather systems coming from the west. Occasionally some do not get disrupted as much and bring cold weather to S Fla. Many a cold front stall or die in central Florida due to the over powering sub tropical/tropical climate. But occasionally you get those cold fronts that are strong enough to make it through.
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Advisory Number ONE
Cyclonic Storm Rashmi
17:30 PM IST October 26 2008

At 12:00 PM UTC, The deep depression over west-central and adjoining northwest Bay of Bengal moved rapidly in a north-northeasterly direction, intensified into a cyclonic storm, RASHMI and lay centred near 19.5N 88.0E or about 200 kms southeast of Paradip and 350 kms south of Kolkata.

Satellite imagery indicates organized convection with Cloud Dense Overcast Pattern in association with the system. The Dvorak Intensity of the system is T2.5. Maximum 3 minute sustained winds near the center is 35-40 knots with gust of 50 knots and a central pressure of 996 hPa.

Associated broken to solid intense to very intense convection is seen over the Bay of Bengal north of 18.5N, east of Orissa, south of Gangetic West Bengal, and south of Bangladesh.

The lowest cloud top temperature due to convection is about -80C. The sea surface temperature over the region is about 29C. Vertical wind shear of horizontal wind over the region is 10-20 knots. Shear tendency is -5 to -10 knots to the north and northeast of the system. The system lies to the north of the upper tropospheric ridge.

FORECAST FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS
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Considering all the above and prediction by NWP, The system is likely to intensify further and move in a north-northeasterly direction and cross West Bengal-Bangladesh coast around 89.0E by tomorrow morning.

Forecast intensity is expected to be T3.0 with sustained winds of 40-50 knots with gusts of 60 knots along and off West Bengal/Bangladesh coast at the time of landfall.

Storm Surge of about 2 meters above astronomical tide is likely over south 24 Pragana and adjoining areas of East Midnapur districts of West Bengal and adjoining Bangladesh coast at the time of landfall.
I'll never forget the cold front that brought Wilma in to pay a little visit. In all my years down here I've never seen a sky that had so may stars because the city wasn't illuminating it.
I guess the people I talked to have bad memory they said it was a snow flurry basically.

Btw I read that there is a certain temperature that they will cancel school at in South Florida counties due to issues with hypotherimia amoungst other things. But its like an insane temperature for S Fla standards. I think it was for a high temperature of 20-25 degress or less. I can undserstand their reasoning for that. Usually those are the lows if they ever reach that in a given winter whhich happens about once every decade. They usually reach the upper 20's once or twice every 2-3 years.
Thanks hurristat I finally got my avatar up
oh sorry that was tiggerific, thanks for the help
I remember that cold front it was great to have after such a powerful storm got power back 3 days after but it was nice to have.

Btw im wondering did any of you hear any lighting in Wilma cause half of one of my trees fell the side facing my house. And I've suspected maybe a lightning strike did it?
did not hear lightning at all, I was on the southern eye wall (that dang 60 mile or so eyewall) i'd take a guess it was the winds... whereabouts are you located Vortex? I'm basically off of Commercial and 95 here
I guess that part of the tree was weak then cause the neighboors across the street large tree fell. And the side of the tree facing the neighboor didn't fall. Guess its really strong :). Winds were crasy though gusted to I guess to 115-120 with sustained betweeen 90-100 mph at the peak.

Btw the tree is still up and alive and well lol...
hey rob...sorry it took me so long...had a knock at the door...

your welcome 954
in North Dade about 1 mile from the county line.
ok all...gotta bounce for a bit...going to Walterboro to see wrestling this evening and have to get laundry done for the week before we leave...peewee loves it and going puts me behind a whole day...oh well...gotta have family time too...lol
A weather station once reported a low of 28 degrees F in the keys(Believed to be their coldest unofficial low ever). But officially, it's 31 degrees Fahrenheit!

Cuba and Jamaica once saw lows in the lower-mid 40's. As a matter of fact, ice was spotted on the highest mountain peak(where it was 10-15 degrees colder).
Also had the center of Katrina go right over my area. It was quite a surprise we lost power for about 10 hours so we didn't how were it was going to landfall and once we heard the winds die down for a few mintues I was like "Are you serious were in the center?"
We actually lost electricity for 7 days during Wilma and the neighbors across the street were out 14 days. I'll never forget we had our Halloween decorations up and our lights on and our neighbors still w/o electricity, felt bad but we did run extension cords to their house so they could at least have some light. At least the neighborhood kids got to enjoy candy and decorations on Halloween night though.
Thanks tiggeriffic goodmight and enjoy
Yes I remember Katrina sitting off the coast of N. Broward county and then all of a sudden she wanted to go visit Dade county instead. Good for us bad for Hollywood and Dade County.
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Present Satellite, Area of Interest Cape Verde
The CMC run has this one tracking west.

Present Satellite, Area of Interest Florida

Present Satellite picture Caribbean
Present Satellite picture GOM
Present Satellite picture Mid Atlantic
Present Satellite picture Cape Verde
Present Satellite picture Large overall Coverage
CMC 00Z..
Time Left ... in Hurricane Season
Quoting hurristat:


GLOBAL WARMING!!


You've been drinking again haven't you
I have the answer to who killed Kennedy! It was global warming.
I guess I should probably say hi. Been lurking here a while and man this site is useful! Omar was crazy. Anyways my name's Matt up on the island and I hope to get to know all of you. Btw for the contest I choose Hurricane Ivan in 2004.
Quoting Orcasystems:


You've been drinking again haven't you


LOL... Many people have no idea what global warming means; I think he just saw that the record was last year and overreacted to that. I know people who say the opposite when some place has unusual cold, not knowing what weather is and how it is different from climate. For a good example, the day-to-day temperature variations commonly (here) exceed 10 degrees, an order of magnitude higher than global warming; here is a graph through 2004 that illustrates this, comparing local temperatures (New York City) to regional temperatures (United States) and finally global temperatures (to which the term "global warming" only really applies, hence its name):



(notice that some of the most recent years in New York and the U.S. were much cooler than some of the earliest years, the rise is only really apparent globally due to weather noise at local resolution, though you can see a rise if you look closer, although note that the global mean is an average itself, see the left graph for the unsmoothed yearly variations)

Of course, if the globe overall warms, it does increase the chances for high temperature extremes locally, but local variation is still much larger.
Quoting Orcasystems:


You've been drinking again haven't you


Not old enough. I was just saying that since the high was last year and it hasn't gotten cold in 18 years... the logic follows. I was just joking around.
Quoting victoriahurricane:
I guess I should probably say hi. Been lurking here a while and man this site is useful! Omar was crazy. Anyways my name's Matt up on the island and I hope to get to know all of you. Btw for the contest I choose Hurricane Ivan in 2004.


Welcome victoriahurricane.

About the contest:
Sorry, too late, didn't notice that someone else took it until after that post with the long list. You can pick a different one, though.
Quoting MichaelSTL:


LOL... Many people have no idea what global warming means; I think he just saw that the record was last year and overreacted to that.


Relax... I was just joking about that... I know that that has almost nothing to do with global warming... just poking fun at the overreacting people who cry and scream... GLOBAL WARMING GLOBAL WARMING... but nevertheless, it is an issue that should be addressed. I know more about global warming than you are insinuating.
RSMC: India Meteorological Department

Tropical Cyclone Warning #2 (1500z 26OCT)
========================================

SUBJECT: CYCLONE WARNING FOR WEST BENGAL COAST

At 20:30 PM IST, Cyclonic Storm Rashmi moved rapidly in a north-northeasterly direction and lay centred over northwest Bay of Bengal near 20.5N 88.5E, about 210 km east-northeast of Paradip and 230 km south of Kolkata.

Satellite imagery indicates organized convection with Cloud Dense Overcast Pattern in association with the system. The intensity of the system is T2.5. Maximum 3 minute sustained winds near the center is 35-40 knots with gusts up to 55 knots and a central pressure of 996 hPa. The state of the seas is high to very rough around the system's center.

Associated broken to solid intense to very intense convection is seen over the Bay of Bengal north of 18.5N, East Orissa, south Gangetic West Bengal, and south of Bangladesh.

The lowest cloud top temperatures due to convection is about -80C. The sea surface temperatures over the region is about 29C. Vertical wind shear of horizontal wind over the region is 10-20 knots. Shear tendency is -5 to -10 knots to north and northeast of the system. The system lies to the north of the upper tropospheric ridge.

The system is likely to intensify further and move in a north-northeasterly direction and cross West Bengal/Bangladesh coast around 89.0E by tomorrow morning between 0000 AM UTC and 0300 AM UTC.

FORECAST INTENSITY
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For the next 24 hours, the forecast intensity is T3.0 with maximum 3 minute sustained winds of 40-50 knots with gusts up to 60 knots along and off West Bengal-Bengladesh coast at the time of landfall.

Storm Surge of about 2 meters above astronomical tide is likely over south 24 Pragana and adjoining areas of East Midnapur districts of West Bengal and adjoining Bangladesh coast at the time of landfall.
All time Record Lows
Tallahasse - 5 degrees
Fort Myers - 28 degrees
Miami - 30 degrees
Key West - 41 degrees

For anyone that's interested

Here a link to a page with all the major cities in the United States showing record lows by month.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/extremelow.html
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
For anyone that's interested

Here a link to a page with all the major cities in the United States showing record lows by month.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/extremelow.html


I was just there looking at it... LOL

For those who are too lazy to actually type the website in.
Link
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
All time Record Lows
Tallahasse - 5 degrees
Fort Myers - 28 degrees
Miami - 30 degrees
Key West - 41 degrees



Luckily most of the time when that happens it's usually clear and dry so no chance of snow. That is not something I'd want to see here. :)
That has got to be a record... 36 minutes without a post... that's a really long time.
Wow. 3 posts in an hour.

I have another trivia question:

What is the only atlantic hurricane (1979+) that caused over 1 billion dollars that wasn't retired?
301. KRL
Good read on the final summary of Hurricane Ike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ike
Quoting KRL:
Good read on the final summary of Hurricane Ike.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ike


Did you notice it said Ike had the largest IKE! :-D
Quoting CapeObserver:


Luckily most of the time when that happens it's usually clear and dry so no chance of snow. That is not something I'd want to see here. :)


To me, cold without snow is wasted cold.
I know I am far from the troptics however we, here in the Chicago area just experienced a wall front with very strong winds, hail, sleet and snow. My son and his friend were outside and saw the front approaching, next thing knew the winds were wild and the rain, sleet and snow were painful. It was all over in a matter of minutes. Now the sun is shining, the temperatures are expected to drop to 30 degrees tonight. I just thought I would share the experience because it was an awesome display of weather.
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:
Wow. 3 posts in an hour.

I have another trivia question:

What is the only atlantic hurricane (1979+) that caused over 1 billion dollars that wasn't retired?


Ike... it hasn't been retired.
Quoting MichaelSTL:


To me, cold without snow is wasted cold.


That's exactly the point. The only bad thing about snow is the shoveling, and you get used to that.
Since my post 297, 10 posts over 2 and a half hours, which works out to about one post every 15 minutes. Time for the warning...
if we dont get any more name storm or hurricanes this year


so oh do you think they where right on there hurricane forcast so far we seen 15 name storms 7 hurricanes and 4 cat 3 or higher hurricanes


so oh got it right ???


CSU December 7, 2007 13 7 3
CSU April 9, 2008 15 8 4
NOAA May 22, 2008 12–16 6–9 2–5
CSU June 3, 2008 15 8 4
UKMO June 18, 2008 15* N/A N/A
CSU August 5, 2008 17 9 5
NOAA August 7, 2008 14-18 7-10 3-

Quoting hurristat:


Ike... it hasn't been retired.


Not counting this year.
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The CMC run has this one tracking west.
Next year- 2009 Atlantic hurricane season:

4 hurricanes or MORE before September 30 !
For those who didn't see it last week, I felt it was more needed to release this now instead of then:

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Quoting hurricane123:
Not counting this year.

Juan, 1985? Anyway, we're seeing strong winds here in S. Ontario, with thunderstorms in some areas! Also, it could snow around Tuesday for us here.
You may get used to shoveling snow but you also get used to NOT shoveling it! Having lived in both environments I much prefer the south. Snow is pretty while it's falling but once it's done you gotta clean it up and it just gets dirty. Plus you have to live in the cold for 4 months or more!
RSMC: India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Warning #3 (1800z 26OCT)
========================================

SUBJECT: CYCLONE WARNING FOR WEST BENGAL COAST

At 18:00 PM UTC, Cyclonic Storm Rashmi moved in a northeasterly direction and lays centered over northwest Bay of Bengal near 21.0N 89.0E, or about 200 kms south-southeast of Kolkata and 270 kms northeast of Paradip.

Satellite imagery indicates organized convection with Cloud Dense Overcast pattern in association with the system. The intensity if the system is T2.5. The maximum 3 minute sustained winds near the center is 35-40 knots with gusts up to 55 knots and a central pressure of 994 hPa. The state of the seas is high to very rough around the system's center.

Associated broken to solid intense to very intense convection is seen over the Bay of Bengal north of 18.5N, East Orissa, south Gangetic West Bengal, and south Bangladesh.

The lowest cloud top temperature due to convection is about -80C. The sea surface temperature over the region is about 29C. Vertical wind shear of horizontal wind over the region is 10-20 knots. Shear tendency is -5 to -10 knots to north and northeast of the system. The system lies to the north of the upper tropospheric ridge.

Forecast and Intensity
====================
Considering all the above and prediction by NWP models, the system is likely to move in a north-northwesterly direction and cross West Bengal-Bangladesh coast around 89.5E within a few hours.

Forecast intensity for 24 hours is T3.0 with 3 minute sustained winds of 40-50 knots with gusts up to 60 knots along and off West Bengal-Bangladesh coast at the time of landfall.

Storm Surge of about 2 meters above astronomical tide is likely over south 24 Pragana and adjoining area of east Midnapur districts of West Bengal and adjoining Bangladesh coast at the time of landfall.
Quoting 15hurricanes:
Next year- 2009 Atlantic hurricane season:

4 hurricanes or MORE before September 30 !
lets finish this season up first before we worry about next season which is 8 months away iam looking forward to the break which is just over a month away
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
lets finish this season up first before we worry about next season which is 8 months away iam looking forward to the break which is just over a month away


Amen to that!
Ok, 2008 Atlantic hurricane season:

I predicted 4 hurricanes or MORE before September 30 this year, and i did !!!!!!
Quoting CapeObserver:
You may get used to shoveling snow but you also get used to NOT shoveling it! Having lived in both environments I much prefer the south. Snow is pretty while it's falling but once it's done you gotta clean it up and it just gets dirty. Plus you have to live in the cold for 4 months or more!


I like the cold... it's fun... the trade-off is no cold or cold and shoveling snow. I'll take shoveling snow over no cold any day.
there where olny 2 hurricanes in SEP not 4 hurricaanes
oh wait i eat crow for that post there was one or two hurricans in july
Quoting Tazmanian:
there where olny 2 hurricanes in SEP not 4 hurricaanes


I think he means 4 hurricanes by September. Either way, the prophesying gets old. I can see 15hurricanes over his magic crystal ball he bought at Kroger for $5.00, that he shakes up and it shows him the answer. Let's try it:

(shakes)

"TRY AGAIN"
Quoting AstroHurricane001:

Juan, 1985? Anyway, we're seeing strong winds here in S. Ontario, with thunderstorms in some areas! Also, it could snow around Tuesday for us here.

I just heard thunder! For the first time since August!
Quoting AstroHurricane001:

Juan, 1985? Anyway, we're seeing strong winds here in S. Ontario, with thunderstorms in some areas! Also, it could snow around Tuesday for us here.


Correct

What hurricane affected the filming of Jurassic Park?
Quoting hurricanemaniac123:


Correct

What hurricane affected the filming of Jurassic Park?


Hurricane Iniki
Before Sep. 30 mean January, Febuary, March, April, May, June, July, August, Sepetember!!!

Before Sep. 30 mean NOT October, November, December!!!!


Quoting 15hurricanes:
Before Sep. 30 mean January, Febuary, March, Apr., May, June, July, August, Sepetember!!!

Before Sep. 30 mean "Not" October, November, Decemer!!!!


Now i feel better!!!


relax... take a breath... in...out... now calm and down and realize we get the point.
now you see it now you dont
319. Hurristat

Just curious about your age. Usually it's the young that enjoy the cold. Once you get to be my age you're usually over it, lol.
Quoting CapeObserver:
319. Hurristat

Just curious about your age. Usually it's the young that enjoy the cold. Once you get to be my age you're usually over it, lol.


a sophomore in HS, if that helps at all.

Thanks for spoiling it CapeObserver.
hello taz
almost time for reflections of the season first was the cross dressing basin swapping arthur then big bad bertha that last forever and still is somewhere over the high artic maybe
just kiddding with the last part
2008 had many noteable occurences maybe the most in one year
TODAY'S GALVESTON PAPER READ...

"Galveston is under siege to destruction, loss and collapse, and midde class families are wondering whether to return and if they can return."

We can no longer stand around quietly, it's time for some yelling.

then there was Carolina to Canada Cristobal, Dolly damage, off-the-coast Edouard, freaking forever on Florida Fay
Help4Galveston.org

Send email to donate@help4galveston.org or call 888-425-5439 ext. 2 for donation call center.

"Galveston is under siege to destruction, loss and collapse, and midde class families are wondering whether to return and if they can return."

We can no longer stand around quietly, it's time for some yelling.
oh oh.. Timmy is mad as hell now
George Bush going crazy Gustav, Haiti Hanna, Infamous Ike, Unremarkable Josephine, quick Kyle, Lame Laura, Miniature Marco, No Nana, and OMG it's Omar!
Over 1,000 people still living in shelters.

And FEMA will be shutting down the door come November and they all will be left to fend for themselves while Government spends $700 billion and keeps on funneling billions into foreign countries as I write. On this path America will be heading for its own self destruction as it denies its own citizens for its own priorities.
Another major story is UTMB hospital which is the only one on Galveston is on par to cut 4,000 jobs at the hospital. Government not willing to put out money at this time, as interest is elsewhere.

If this happens Galveston will tank as it is a major tax revenue for the island.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
2008 had many noteable occurences maybe the most in one year


2005 broke like 200 records (there is a list somewhere)
Quoting MichaelSTL:
Yep:

http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/record2005.asp


More than that... the PDF file is like 100 pages!!!
you forgot Dolly!!! - she was the best wave maker this year. Ike was big and rough & full of stinging jellies...Dolly had the most beautiful swell - pun intended
Quoting surfmom:
you forgot Dolly!!! - she was the best wave maker this year. Ike was big and rough & full of stinging jellies...Dolly had the most beautiful swell - pun intended


no I didn't look at my list... If that's what you meant. BTW how was the surfing?
i did'nt know the number stl wow thats a lot for 05 i wonder how 08 has faired so far
Quoting hurristat:


no I didn't look at my list... If that's what you meant. BTW how was the surfing?
Challenging to say the least. The winds started at 15mph per hour, stayed between 15-20, went up to 30 at one point. They only laid down the morning I left. Surf was huge and -- it was for the men. Had a great time watching a photo shoot for surf mag... so that was fun. The flags were Red and Purple -- read, for the the rip and high surf and purple ... that was for the bull sharks.....the mullet and bait fish were running, the jack's were chasing the bait into the corners of the jetties and the bullsharks were following. the water was soo churned up. Plenty of guys went out --I would have to surf the inside and that's just where they'd be...which I discovered on my second day when I went to paddle out. It was the closest I have ever been and it was not fun for me
Did grab some puny coldfront waves this afternoon--- it was nice to be in the waters of the Gulf -- just love my home beach
Hi Surfmom - its been really quiet without you to liven everyone up this week!

Sorry the waves didn't work out - what beach did you go to?
Quoting surfmom:
Did grab some puny coldfront waves this afternoon--- it was nice to be in the waters of the Gulf -- just love my home beach


We do live in paradise, that's for sure. Tues am supposed to be in the upper 40's. Horses should be nice and frisky in that kind of weather!
Stuck with the Ft. Pierce area. Had my dog with me so I couldn't go too far and leave her too long. The state Park there is great.....and she and I had some fab walks....lots of good nature... the Atlantic was just gorgeous and teeming with energy and color... just a bit to big for my level....I got two sessions in and I was ok with that.... I did have some tremendous runs -- you adapt, read books -- ma nature wanted me to sit, shut-up and be still LOL...so I sorta listened
Is it too late to give a nominee hurristat?
If not I give Hurricane Lili of 1984.
Link
Quoting billy305:
Is it too late to give a nominee hurristat?
If not I give Hurricane Lili of 1984.
Link


no, it's until the end of the month. That's when I let everyone know who the winner is.
I know--- just getting back in the saddle LOL - cold fron will bring in some waves late monday and I should be riding Tuesday morning.... Frisky horses - you bet.... but they are soo much happier then living through the heat. -- A little naughty will be OK (that's what I say now LOL)
Surfmom you are dedicated! I will be wearing a sweater and a coat on Tues!! I cannot imagine going in the water even with a wetsuit.
I just finished calculating the ACE for all the storms that peaked at TS status between 1851 and 1899. The top 5:
Name- Year- Date- Maximum Sustained Wind Speed (kt)- Days- ACE (10^4*kt^2)
TS9- 1898- 10/2-10/14- 60- 12.75- 13.2475
TS12- 1878- 11/25-12/2- 60- 8- 9.04
TS5- 1898- 9/12-9/22- 50- 10.5- 8.365
TS3- 1895- 9/28-10/7- 50- 9.75- 8.025
TS2- 1890- 8/18-8/28- 50- 10- 7.6475
oh oh again
Quoting Orcasystems:
oh oh again


Sorry... what do you think the stat in hurristat means?
360. BtnTx
Quoting hurristat:


Sorry, what do you think the stat in hurristat means?


boring?
The oh oh was for Tim and the HR.. I have no idea what your nick stands for..and I must admit.. the thought never even entered my mind.
Quoting BtnTx:


boring?


I pick that one to :)
Quoting BtnTx:


boring?


hey... be nice. : )

It's short for statistics. Ever since I was little, I've loved statistics. And if hurricanes didn't interest me, I wouldn't be on here. So that's what my username means.
Cape, ever wear a wetsuit? It's really neat how well they work... there still is hands, head and feet.... I have the gloves,booties --will not wear the hoodie (too vain)-- but I have learned that 60 degrees air/water is about my limit --which is very wussy.

Orca - did you get your pond taken care of??? freeze those toes and other assorted body parts???
365. BtnTx
Quoting hurristat:


hey... be nice.

It's short for statistics. Ever since I was little, I've loved statistics. And if hurricanes didn't interest me, I wouldn't be on here. So that's what my username means.


We understood before you told us. All is good here at the WU as none of us are under Weather Attack for now :)
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Advisory Number FOUR
CYCLONIC STORM RASHMI
02:30 AM IST October 27 2008


At 21:00 PM UTC, Surface observation from coastal stations of West Bengal and Bangladesh indicated that the cyclonic storm "RASHMI" over northwest Bay of Bengal moved northeastward as lays nortwest Bay of Bengal near Bengal at 21.5N 89.5E, (very close to the coast)

Satellite imagery indicates organized convection with cloud dense overcast pattern in association with the system. The intensity of the system is T3.0. Maximum 3 minute sustained winds near the center is 40-50 knots with gusts of 60 knots and a central pressure of 984 hPa. The state of seas is high to very rough around the system's center.

Associated broken to solid intense to very intense convection is seen over Bay of Bengal north of 18.5N, East Orissa, south Gangetic West Bengal, and Bangladesh

The lowest cloud top temperature due to convection is about -80C. The sea surface temperature over the region is about 29C. Vertical wind shear of horizontal wind over the region is 20-30 knots. Shear tendency is -5 to -10 knots to north and northeast of the system. The system lies to the north of the upper tropospheric ridge.

Forecast and Intensity
======================
Considering all the above and prediction by NWP models, the system is likely to move in a north-northeasterly direction and cross Bangladesh coast near 89.5E today within the next few hours and weaken gradually. Sustained maximum winds is expected to be 40-50 knots gusting to 60 knots along and off West Bengal-Bangladesh coast at the time of landfall.

Storm Surge of about 2 meters above astronomical tide is likely over south 24 Pragana and adjoining areas of east Midnapur districts of West Bengal and adjoining Bangladesh coast at the time of landfall.
Quoting surfmom:
Cape, ever wear a wetsuit? It's really neat how well they work... there still is hands, head and feet.... I have the gloves,booties --will not wear the hoodie (too vain)-- but I have learned that 60 degrees air/water is about my limit --which is very wussy.

Orca - did you get your pond taken care of??? freeze those toes and other assorted body parts???


5'9".. wear a 30" inseam
Waters is 36" deep..
No hip waders...
You do the math :(
Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
(very close to the coast)


Was that in the original report?
Quoting Orcasystems:


5'9".. wear a 30" inseam
Waters is 36" deep..
No hip waders...
You do the math :(


Nice... sounds fun. This is why I don't like swimming in the fall.
I just did the math -- do I crunch or shrivel the numbers......
ya it is in the advisory
Quoting surfmom:
I just did the math -- do I crunch or shrivel the numbers......


Ohhh thats cruel
The India Meteorological Department still trying to catch up in releasing the advisories of when Rashmi made landfall.

the 0:00 AM UTC advisory should note the landfall details in about 4 more hours.
Hades - I can't really see your avatar - looks interesting, but I tried to see him bigger... no go
Quoting Orcasystems:


Ohhh thats cruel
sorry......bet I almost lost my Halo on that one!! Seriously, your pond looks and is quite a project.... what happens to the fish in the winter??? Can they hibernate?
Quoting surfmom:
Hades - I can't really see your avatar - looks interesting, but I tried to see him bigger... no go

Hmm you seem to have your mind on sizes tonight... no big waves in the gulf either.
You could ship 'em all down here to me... but then I'd have to worry about the birds... don't you have to worry about birds of prey feasting from your pond?
Quoting surfmom:
sorry......bet I almost lost my Halo on that one!! Seriously, your pond looks and is quite a project.... what happens to the fish in the winter??? Can they hibernate?


Yes, when the water stays below about 55, they quit eating and just hibernate until it gets warmer.
It's three robots staring at the "television" camera. LOL
Quoting Orcasystems:

Hmm you seem to have your mind on sizes tonight... no big waves in the gulf either.
Orca -- you may be miles away.... but you sense it.....frustrated is a kind word....thank goodness I run..... Ran for hours
Quoting surfmom:
You could ship 'em all down here to me... but then I'd have to worry about the birds... don't you have to worry about birds of prey feasting from your pond?


No I cured that problem :)
The Blue Herons around here and I have come to an agreement.. they don't eat my fish..and I don't shoot them.
so the pond doesn't freeze solid?
we politely call that "lead poisoning" here in the south lol
Quoting surfmom:
we politely call that "lead poisoning" here in the south lol


I will have you know I am new age..I used stainless steel shot.
Quoting surfmom:
so the pond doesn't freeze solid?


Its three feet deep :)
It doesn't get that cold here.

Victoria has a temperate climate that is usually classified as Marine west coast(Cfb),[7] with mild, damp winters and relatively dry and mild summers. It is sometimes classified as a Mediterranean climate (Csb).[8]

Daily temperatures rise above 30°C (86°F) on an average of one or two days per year and fall below -5°C (23°F) on an average of only 2 nights per year. During the winter, the average daily high and low temperatures are 8.2°C (47°F) and 3.6°C (38°F), respectively. The summer months are equally mild, with an average high temperature of 19.6°C (67°F) and low of 11.3°C (52°F). Victoria does occasionally experience more extreme temperatures. The highest temperature ever recorded in Victoria was 36.3°C (97.3°F) on July 11, 2007, while the coldest temperature on record was -15.6°C (4°F) on December 29, 1968 and January 28, 1950. Victoria has not recorded a temperature below -10°C (14°F) since 1990.
OK - I'm catching some sleep - work is forecasted....got to hit the deck running tomorrow AM
after 14 straight hours of blogging/researching i'm gonna call it a night. Night all.
last note - it is a "damn" good spot where you are --Orca --- seems like a well-kept secret. I thought you had more rain.... more like Seattle (which I would rust in).....see you tomorrow -- G'nite ALL
HI all!

Just popping in.....

Oh darn, missed SurfMom!

How's everyone? Or has everyone left for the night?
Watching game??
Hi all.

Termites, floodwalls, Katrina...interesting theory: Link

Second attempt.
Hi,

Can't get link to work....

Quoting atmoaggie:
Hi all.

Termites, floodwalls, Katrina...interesting theory: http://www.entsoc.org/resources/press_releases/2008_termites.htm
Sorry bout that. Fixed...still dunno what was wrong with it.
Got it! Did Termites Help Katrina Destroy New Orleans Floodwalls?

Your link had two "http://http//".... a mistake I make quite often!
Formosa Termites are a homeowners "terror"! We actually had to pay extra to get coverage... a regular Termite Policy may not cover damage done by Formosa Termites!
Thats the game....
Evening all, good to see ya Beach, atmo, and everyone else

atmo, where are you located? Would have really enjoyed meeting you while I was out there if you were close enough
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Formosa Termites are a homeowners "terror"! We actually had to pay extra to get coverage... a regular Termite Policy may not cover damage done by Formosa Termites!


Sheesh..add fireants.. gators..snakes..sharks.. spiders.. gotta love the sunny GOM area
Good to see you too Orca
OMG, another one...
Tim is going to break the TV
Quoting StormJunkie:
Good to see you too Orca

Hows it going SJ.. thought you were on the road?
Quoting StormJunkie:
Evening all, good to see ya Beach, atmo, and everyone else

atmo, where are you located? Would have really enjoyed meeting you while I was out there if you were close enough


I live and work within 1.5 miles of that little interstate you would use to avoid most of NOLA if traveling I-10, or I-12. Or for those familiar, Covington is home, Slidell is work. I travel I-12 daily.

I thought about that, but couldn't pin down when/where I would be within 24 hours notice. Work has been very busy, as has the work at my in-laws. I am about done helping there, for now, though. They should be back in their house by Christmas.
Quoting surfmom:
Cape, ever wear a wetsuit? It's really neat how well they work... there still is hands, head and feet.... I have the gloves,booties --will not wear the hoodie (too vain)-- but I have learned that 60 degrees air/water is about my limit --which is very wussy.

Orca - did you get your pond taken care of??? freeze those toes and other assorted body parts???


Surf, yes I wore one once. My brother is a white water rafting guide in Maine so of course being from FL he knew I would freeze my you know what off so he had me wear the suit. I am such a wuss I was still cold. Of course, you're supposed to stay IN the raft which didn't happen. Found out first hand what "toes up, nose up" meant. Needless to say that was a one time experience. My daughter goes frequently but like I said earlier, the young seem to like the cold.
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Formosa Termites are a homeowners "terror"! We actually had to pay extra to get coverage... a regular Termite Policy may not cover damage done by Formosa Termites!


Makes you wonder if us in the affected areas wouldn't just be better off in the long run by using only pressure treated wood. Sure it will be more expensive, but over time I bet it would pay for itself if you were going to live in a house you build for 20 years or more.
Will have to make it happen one day atmo

Off the road for the night Orca. Code has been kind enough to put us up and most importantly feed us :~)
Quoting StormJunkie:
Will have to make it happen one day atmo

Off the road for the night Orca. Code has been kind enough to put us up and most importantly feed us :~)


Do you guys run I-10/I-12 in LA? I might even be able to swing a little tour and meet with the esteemed Pat Fitzpatrick at Stennis Space Center...maybe. (The guy's work has been mentioned by Dr. Masters more than a couple of times and writes books on hurricanes)
Quoting surfmom:
Hades - I can't really see your avatar - looks interesting, but I tried to see him bigger... no go


I can't see the full version either, but it works if you copy the image URL (of the small avatar picture) and remove the bolded part:

http://icons-pe.wxug.com/data/wximagenew/h/HadesGodWyvern/23-thumb.jpg

Thus,

http://icons-pe.wxug.com/data/wximagenew/h/HadesGodWyvern/23.jpg

Not sure why that happens, think it is a glitch in WU.
Totally unrelated: I have been playing with my laptop of late and have done something rather interesting. I am running Linux, created a virtual partition within my Linux partition, ran a bios emulator, and installed Windows as just another program within Linux. Never again shall I be hamstrung by that POS OS, but I can still run any program that must have Windows in order to run.

Anyone that has to rebuild, I would consider Ubuntu Hardy Heron for Linux...installs easier than Windows and works every piece of hardware perfectly without any extra work (even hotkeys and wireless interfaces, weaknesses of Linux in the recent past).
Quoting MichaelSTL:


I can't see the full version either, but it woks if you copy the image URL (of the small avatar picture) and remove the bolded part:

http://icons-pe.wxug.com/data/wximagenew/h/HadesGodWyvern/23-thumb.jpg

Thus,

http://icons-pe.wxug.com/data/wximagenew/h/HadesGodWyvern/23.jpg

Not sure why that happens, think it is a glitch in WU.


What is that? Family members? Saints fans from a few years ago?
Upper 40s forecasted for me Tuesday night. Should be a nice change. The air feels different after the first front had passes by.
Yep atmo, and I have to be honest, I am not a fan of the La roads! Especially in U-haul
Here's the Nassau forecast for the next 3 days. That second front looks dangerous.

Monday
Chance of Rain. Overcast. High: 84° F. / 29° C. Wind North 15 mph. / 25 km/h. Chance of precipitation 50%.
Monday Night
Scattered Clouds. Low: 73° F. / 23° C. Wind NNW 15 mph. / 25 km/h.
Tuesday
Chance of Rain. Scattered Clouds. High: 78° F. / 26° C. Wind North 22 mph. / 36 km/h. Chance of precipitation 20%.
Tuesday Night
Scattered Clouds. Low: 68° F. / 20° C. Wind North 24 mph. / 39 km/h.
Wednesday
Partly Cloudy. High: 78° F. / 26° C. Wind NNE 17 mph. / 28 km/h.
Wednesday Night
Partly Cloudy. Low: 68° F. / 20° C. Wind NE 15 mph. / 25 km/h.
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Present Satellite, Area of Interest Cape Verde
The CMC run has this one tracking west.
It's also a pattern that should effectively end the tropical season, at least as far as most U.S. interests are concerned. That's not to say there can't be another storm or two over the last weeks of the season, but for them to form is difficult in November and, unless if forms over the northwestern Caribbean or the southern Gulf, there's little opportunity for anything born in the tropics to get to the U.S. mainland.

415. KBH
morning all, seems someone the rain clouds disappeared from over the Carib. looks like only blue skies today and weather for the beach!
Morning folks...
Morning, All

realized at about 5pm yesterday that I hadn't looked at a sat loop all day. Kinda nice for a change.
415. KBH... Morning

417. Rob... Morning. Hehe... quite true.
Well... almost time to head out to work... ttl.

But I will say this... forecast models (GFS, NGP, and CMC) are indicating for now some disturbances developing towards the end of this week and beginning of next week in the EATL and WCARIB. Coinciding with the arrival of a weak to moderate MJO which seems that it could last until the end of the Hurr. season.

Well shall see what pops up next Sunday, but for the mean time... quite a bit of savings on energy bill as I have no longer have to have this AC be turned on at all and should be a pretty tranquil week for the CONUS and Carib.

419. WxLogic

Yeah, I'll give the models a day or two to chew on that.

Ditto the A/C thing. Gonna enjoy it while it last.
421. IKE
AC? What about the heat?

My forecast for tonight....Tonight
Clear and cold. Lows 32 to 37. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.


The arctic front just moved through here...winds are increasing in the Florida panhandle...winter weather ahead.
It can't get down here fast enough for me Ike!
63 this morning and we're setting records this week!


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STRONG HIGH PRESSURE ESTABLISHING OVER THE SOUTHEAST U.S. WILL DOMINATE THE REGION WITH DRY AND COLD NORTHWESTERLY AND NORTHERLY FLOW. TEMPERATURES WILL DROP BELOW NORMALS WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 40S TO LOWER 50S BY TUESDAY MORNING AND NEARING RECORD LOWS BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. AFTERNOON HIGHS WILL HOVER THE MID TO UPPER 70S TODAY, THEN DROP INTO THE UPPER 60S TUESDAY AFTERNOON. A RED FLAG WARNING IS IN EFFECT THIS AFTERNOON FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF LOW HUMIDITIES OR IN COMBINATION WITH WINDS AROUND 15 MPH. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITONS WILL BEGIN THIS AFTERNOON WITH WINDS IN THE 20 TO 25 KNOTS CATEGORY AND REMAIN SO THROUGH AT LEAST TUESDAY AFTERNOON. IN GENERAL...BREEZY, DRY AND COLD. FALL IS FINALLY HERE.

423. IKE
New Orleans Lakefront, Louisiana (Airport)
Updated: 44 min 49 sec ago
Clear
65 °F
Clear
Humidity: 52%
Dew Point: 47 °F
Wind: 30 mph from the North
Wind Gust: 43 mph

Pressure: 30.27 in (Rising)
Visibility: 10.0 miles
UV: 0 out of 16
Clouds:
Clear -
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 7 ft
421. IKE

Hehe...Had to listen to you brag for two weeks!
My turn!

Today: Sunny, with a high near 80. North northwest wind between 6 and 11 mph.

Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around 45. Northwest wind between 7 and 14 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.

Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 69. Wind chill values as low as 39 early. North northwest wind between 11 and 17 mph, with gusts as high as 24 mph.

Tuesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 42. North northwest wind around 6 mph.

Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 72. North northwest wind around 6 mph.

Wednesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 48. North wind around 6 mph.

Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 78. North northeast wind between 6 and 9 mph.

(LOL)

Latest surface analysis:


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The weather this week is also likely to be a snow maker for the NE.
See Sullivanweather's blog.
Deep upper cyclone supposed to spin up just off the coast and retrogress.
So do you guys think that this will be enough of a push to break the pattern for Belize and Guatemala and give them a few days to dry out.

Looks much improved, but still some minor convection at the tail of the current front just offshore Belize
Monday.....ugh

I need more weekend and less week.
Morning Bean

Ditto that, but then I'd just end up working weekends.
It should certainly help Rob.
Looks like enough forcing to clear it out for a couple days maybe.
Here's the Day 3-4 surface forecasts:


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430. vortfix

Thanks,

Noticed a lot of dry air heading that way, but feeling bad for them. They've just been stuck in the loop for 2-3 weeks now.

Haven't heard from the bloggers there in a couple days. stormpetrol has inlaws in Belize.
It has just been disastrous for those folks this year Rob.
I'm confident they will get a big shot of very dry air and finally clean that area out for a while.
Unfortunately there will likely be gale force winds in several areas...but it won't be raining!
First dusting of snow in northern Indiana around 3am. By morning it was raining and the sump pump was busy.



433. kellnerp

Been seeing a lot of snow/rain/snow forecast for the midwest.

I'm not real experienced with winter weather, but sounds like a recipe for bad driving conditions to me. Be careful
Quoting RobDaHood:
421. IKE

Hehe...Had to listen to you brag for two weeks!
My turn!

Today: Sunny, with a high near 80. North northwest wind between 6 and 11 mph.

Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around 45. Northwest wind between 7 and 14 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.

Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 69. Wind chill values as low as 39 early. North northwest wind between 11 and 17 mph, with gusts as high as 24 mph.

Tuesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 42. North northwest wind around 6 mph.

Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 72. North northwest wind around 6 mph.

Wednesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 48. North wind around 6 mph.

Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 78. North northeast wind between 6 and 9 mph.

(LOL)




Cue the Snowbirds
435. Neverseensnow

Already starting. Noticed several at the lake trying to get their boats started for the first time this season.
Crank for 60 seconds, wiggle something, repeat, repeat, repeat, change battery, repeat, repeat, why is the starter smoking, crank some more, call mechanic.
Morning everyone:
Absolutely gorgeous wintery weather this morning in Melbourne. My favorite time of the year. Off Sunday on a cruise to the Western Caribbean and think everything should be pretty good there too! Belize might be a big soggy though~
Morning Conchy,

440. JRRP
see you later
Quoting RobDaHood:
Morning Conchy,

Morning Rob: I imagine you are loving this weather too! Yuck - must get back to work.
Quoting conchygirl:
Morning Rob: I imagine you are loving this weather too! Yuck - must get back to work.


Yes I am. Will be a bit nippy weds am but I'll be driving all morning so it won't bother me.

Today's an easy day so far which suits me just fine too. Think I'll take the dog out for a few minutes...
443. myway
Quoting kellnerp:
First dusting of snow in northern Indiana around 3am. By morning it was raining and the sump pump was busy.






Where in Northern Indiana? I am originaly from Starke county, Knox to be exact. Mom still lives on Bass Lake.
Wow, quiet tropics and sloooow blog! Good morning everyone! Great weather here in NW Florida, can't remember the last time frost threatened in October!
Quoting atmoaggie:


Makes you wonder if us in the affected areas wouldn't just be better off in the long run by using only pressure treated wood. Sure it will be more expensive, but over time I bet it would pay for itself if you were going to live in a house you build for 20 years or more.
Nix on going total pressure treated. Don't even think about it. That has been done before and people have died or suffered serious health issues by the same chemical fumes that prevent rot. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BUILD YOUR HOUSE WITH PRESSURE TREATED WOOD AS THE PRIMARY MATERIAL. Frequent inspection and maintenance will always be the best policy. LOL
Nice morning with lows in the 60s. Looking forward to the real cool down on Tuesday and Wednesday.
hello everyone the 2008 atlantic tropics have gone to sleep. thankfully agree with a earlier poster pressure treated wood is dangerous. have a friend of a friend who died after burning the stuff after hurricane floyd in the abacos. pressure treated wood needs to be treated with respect.
MODELS ARE IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT
THAT 1000-850MB THICKNESSES WILL DROP TO AROUND 1340M ACROSS GLADES
AND HENDRY COUNTIES TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT WITH 1355M ALONG THE
SE COAST. WITH CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED AND WINDS DECOUPLING TO SOME
EXTENT OVER THE INTERIOR...TUESDAY NIGHT WILL BE VERY COOL FOR THIS
TIME OF YEAR WITH LOWS 10-20 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL...AND SOME RECORD
LOWS ARE POSSIBLE. LOW TEMPS WILL LIKELY DROP TO AROUND 40 DEGREES
ACROSS THE NORMALLY COLDER PARTS OF GLADES AND HENDRY
COUNTIES...INTO THE UPPER 40S AT NAPLES AND PALM BEACH COUNTY...AND
INTO THE 50S ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE EAST COAST METRO AREAS.

PLEASE SEE THE CLIMATE SECTION BELOW FOR MORE CONCERNING THE
RECORDS. IF WINDS STAY UP AROUND 5MPH THEN WIND CHILLS IN THE MID TO
UPPER 30S ARE LIKELY ACROSS THE NW INTERIOR.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED
HOWEVER THAT THERE IS SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN GET
AS COLD AS GUIDANCE SUGGESTS AT NIGHT...GIVEN THAT IT IS EARLY IN
THE SEASON FOR AN OUTBREAK OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND THE GROUND IS STILL
PRETTY WARM.
Morning everyone... very nippy morning up here :(
449 Orca
I still hold that unless sunspot activety picks up, You're in for more than your fair share on nippy mornings. lol
Quoting theshepherd:
449 Orca
I still hold that unless sunspot activety picks up, You're in for more than your fair share on nippy mornings. lol


I have not checked.. but I would assume from the temps this year.. it may be a bit colder then normal.
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Present Satellite, Area of Interest Cape Verde / Mid Atlantic
The CMC run has this one developing & tracking west.
Orca

Nice pics of the pond. Oh, & BTW I so want one of those bird sculptures in the corner.
Quoting RobDaHood:
Orca

Nice pics of the pond. Oh, & BTW I so want one of those bird sculptures in the corner.


They are nice.. and made locally here on the island. They also keep the Blue Heron happy.. he seems to be in love with it.. vice scaring him away.
451 Orca
Check it out. For sure, the Northwest Passage will be closed again for the second year in a row. In my opinion, nothing to do with the global warming trend as a whole. Man made or natural, let's not enter "that" debate. ;>) Our little space ship we call Earth has more than one fish to fry.
Quoting theshepherd:
451 Orca
Check it out. For sure, the Northwest Passage will be closed again for the second year in a row. In my opinion, nothing to do with the global warming trend as a whole. Man made or natural, let's not enter "that" debate. ;>) Our little space ship we call Earth has more than one fish to fry.


I will never get into the GW debate.. when it starts on here I just shake my head and leave.

All I know is I want to fly some place warm.. and unless the economy picks up pretty quick..I may have to skip that this year...that will not make me happy at all.

Not to mention.. SWMBO'ed is not a nice person if she does not get her vacation.

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GM, all,when you look at the patterns over the conus,and a cold nor'easter headed toward the northeast,and cold air plunging all the way to the south,kind of gives you the feeling the tropics are done.