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2008: Ninth warmest year on record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:05 AM GMT on January 21, 2009

The temperature statistics are in, and the year 2008 ranks as the ninth warmest year for the globe on record, making it the coolest year since 2000, according to an analysis compiled by NASA. NOAA's National Climatic Data Center rated 2008 the eighth warmest on record, and the British Climate Research Unit rated it tenth warmest. NASA noted that given the uncertainty in the measurements, a range of 7th to 10th warmest was reasonable. Global temperature records extend back to 1880. December 2008 was also the eighth warmest December for the globe on record.

The average global temperature the past five years (and the last ten years) is the highest on record. The top ten warmest years since 1880 have all occurred in the past twelve years. So, despite the impressive cold blast in the Eastern U.S. this winter, the global climate is warming. The relatively cool temperatures of 2008 probably represent a normal year-to-year fluctuation in the weather. Cool weather is to be expected globally during a strong La Niña event in the Eastern Pacific Ocean, which was present during the first part of 2008 (see the cool blue colors over the Equatorial Pacific in Figure 1). It is no surprise that the last year it was cooler, 2000, was also the last time we had a La Niña event. With La Niña conditions beginning to develop again this year, I'd be surprised if 2009 turns out to be a record warm year. Dr. James Hansen of NASA is predicting a new global record temperature either this year or in 2010, though.


Figure 1. Global temperature anomalies in 2008 compared to the 1950-1980 baseline period. Below-average temperatures are shown in blue, average temperatures are white, and above-average temperatures are red. (Gray indicates no data.) Most of the world was either near normal or warmer than normal. Eastern Europe, Russia, the Arctic, and the Antarctic Peninsula were exceptionally warm (1.5 to 3.5 degrees Celsius above average). The temperature in the United States in 2008 was not much different than the 1951-1980 mean, which makes 2008 cooler than all of the previous years this decade. Large areas of the central and eastern Pacific Ocean were cooler than the long-term average, linked to a La Niña episode that began in 2007. The graph shows the long-term trend in surface temperatures since 1880. The annual average temperatures are shown in light orange, and the jaggedness of the line indicates how much the average global surface temperature varies from year to year. Because climate is so variable from year to year, it can be easier to spot long-term trends through multi-year averages. The dark red line shows the five-year running average, which is an average of five years of annual temperatures centered on a given year. Even this five-year average shows that climate has ups and downs, but the long-term increase in global average surface temperatures is obvious. The gray barbells indicate the range of uncertainty. Not surprisingly, the uncertainty is larger for older measurements than for more recent ones. Image credit: NASA.

A cool and snowy December in the U.S.
For the contiguous U.S., December was the 35th coolest December, ranking it in the coldest 30% of all Decembers observed since records began in 1895. December 2008 had near-average precipitation, ranking 43rd wettest. It was the 8th wettest December on record in the East North Central U.S., and 9th wettest for the Central U.S. Only the South experienced below average precipitation during the month. For the year 2008, temperatures in the U.S. were not much different than the 1951-1980 mean, which makes 2008 the coolest year since 1997. U.S. records set in December 2008 (courtesy of http://extremeweatherguide.com/updates.asp):

Spokane, WA: All-time 24-hour snowfall, 19.4", 12/17-12/18
Spokane, WA: All-time single storm snowfall: 23.3", 12/17-12/18
Sandpoint, ID: All-time 24-hour snowfall, 27.0"
Jackson, WY: All-time 24-hour snowfall, 27.0"
Fargo, ND: Snowiest month on record: 33.5"
Spokane, WA: Snowiest month on record: 61.5"
Green Bay, WI: Snowiest month on record: 45.6"
Madison, WI: Snowiest month on record: 40.4"
Wausau, WI: Snowiest month on record: 37.6"
Idaho: All-time 24-hour state snowfall record set at Dollar Hide, 46.5", 12/26-12/27 (not confirmed)

At the end of 2008, 20% of the contiguous United States was in moderate-to-exceptional drought. This is a decline from the 28% of the U.S. that was under similar drought conditions at the end of 2007. The average precipitation for the U.S. in 2008 was 30.48 inches, which is 1.34 inches above average. 2008 was the wettest year on record for New Hampshire and Missouri, second wettest for Massachusetts, and third wettest for Connecticut, Illinois, and Iowa. Also, 2008 was the fourth wettest year for Indiana, fifth wettest for Maine, Michigan, and Vermont, seventh wettest for New York, and eighth wettest for Kansas and Rhode Island.

Next post
Check out Ricky Rood's latest blog, called Cold in the East: A rant. There is a lot of misinformation circulating in the media right now about climate change, and Ricky and I will be doing our best to try to explain what is fact and what is crap in the coming weeks. I posted one such discussion last week, when I showed that the recent claims that sea ice is back to 1979 levels were a clever bit of cherry picking of the data that hides the critical summertime loss of Arctic sea ice. I'll have a new blog post on Friday.

Jeff Masters

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Reader Comments

I respectfully suggest that it is the small individually owned businesses and entrepreneurs that are the true economic engine and will pull us out of this.

MODIFIED - BUY LOCAL, FOLKS!!
54. GulfPoet 2:41 PM GMT on January 22, 2009

oh clap of thunder that rolls across the darkened sky
from the flash brighter than a thousand suns
send cowering the lowly sheep
who fear the coming rains

yet with rain, and wind, and thunder and lightning
the nutriants of renewal flow into the ground
then as the sun gently parts the clouds -
green grow the grasses

upon which the sheep then feed.
The most prominent source of interannual variability in the tropics and around the world is the coupled ocean-atmosphere phenomenon known as the El Niño/Southern Oscillation, or ENSO. ENSO's oceanic component (El Niño / La Niña) is characterized by a quasi-periodic warming or cooling of ocean waters in the eastern equatorial Pacific that occurs every 2 to 8 years (Fig. 1). The atmospheric component reflects the seasonal fluctuations in the air pressure difference between the west and east ends of the Pacific region.

Linkie dinkie..Link
pardon my laymens question... but

what causes El Niño / La Niña
That's OK Tim Geithner will solve all our ills.
He's an honest man...TRUST HIM.
Amazing that a man incapable of a civilian security clearance and a man that should be in jail are going to cure all.
As before, let's wait until the brush leaves the canvas before we proclaim a masterpeice and start comparing anyone to Abe Lincoln.
Shep... down the hall, turn left, second blog on the RIGHT.
Quoting theshepherd:
That's OK Tim Geithner will solve all our ills.
He's an honest man...TRUST HIM.
Amazing that a man incapable of a civilian security clearance and a man that should be in jail are going to cure all.
As before, let's wait until the brush leaves the canvas before we proclaim a masterpeice and start comparing anyone to Abe Lincoln.


AMEN!
Quoting NEwxguy:


AMEN!
I second that AMEN!
The PC debate club has many open minded blog's here.
Just cruise the directory for your side of the fence.

Leave a pic,or add to the debate there.

Thank you for your Co-operation

Quoting GulfPoet:
pardon my laymens question... but

what causes El Niño / La Niña


The NWS auricle in Jackson,Mississippi has the answers you seek young Padawan..Link
back to the weather!
How cold did it get in Florida the past couple of days?
ahhh thanks Pat.
Quoting theshepherd:
That's OK Tim Geithner will solve all our ills.
He's an honest man...TRUST HIM.
Amazing that a man incapable of a civilian security clearance and a man that should be in jail are going to cure all.
As before, let's wait until the brush leaves the canvas before we proclaim a masterpeice and start comparing anyone to Abe Lincoln.


VERY WELL SAID.....if you or I owed the IRS $38000 the IRS would come take all our earthly possessions.....
Florida froze completely,...RUSH Limbaugh is missing too.

FEMA en-route as we blog.
From Patrap's link - During El Nino, the trade winds relax in the Pacific.

What causes the trade winds to relax?
509 pat
You hit the nail on the head.
"Open Minded Blogs"
So Obama thinking is if his Child is being held hostage somewhere and he has in his possession someone that knows where his child is located at.....that he would not use force upon that individual to obtain the information needed to obtain his child.....I would cut of fingers and toes to get information needed to protect my children....but, it must only be at a last result....and in extreme circumstances...
Ever consider a career in the Military ?

They even have mets..

Navy Meteorologist Helping Troops Stay Prepared
Story Number: NNS030219-10 Link

Even become a Naval Officer Link
Enough for me back to weather....big changes coming as the High out West moves East.
Short honeymoon

BTW, Do you know what a honeymoon salad is?

(scroll down for answer)














lettuce alone
Quoting TampaSpin:
Enough for me back to weather....big changes coming as the High out West moves East.
yep
about time to i could use a pattern change up here cause iam kinda sick of the current one
THE NAO page Link

North Atlantic Oscillation

The NAO is the dominant mode of winter climate variability in the North Atlantic region ranging from central North America to Europe and much into Northern Asia. The NAO is a large scale seesaw in atmospheric mass between the subtropical high and the polar low. The corresponding index varies from year to year, but also exhibits a tendency to remain in one phase for intervals lasting several years.


Ultra Encrypted Blackberry??? No more tapes?
Can you hear me now?
Quoting Patrap:
Florida froze completely,...RUSH Limbaugh is missing too.

FEMA en-route as we blog.


Did Global Warming cause this ICE AGE......LMAO
Quoting TampaSpin:


Did Global Warming cause this ICE AGE......LMAO
no that stupid high out west did it and its northern flow coming down over the east
Tampa - from which side of the bed did you rise this morning?

GulfPoet- I know what you are thinking so I will say if for you. He must he must have risen from the right

Patrap - Great links - thanks
(will need to re-organize links as well as stock up for 'Tropical Season')
The Tropics will be on time and primed ,come June 1.


Be ready Freddy..

Hurricane Preparation 2009 Link
Quoting KEHCharleston:
Tampa - from which side of the bed did you rise this morning?

GulfPoet- I know what you are thinking so I will say if for you. He must he must have risen from the right

Patrap - Great links - thanks
(will need to re-organize links as well as stock up for 'Tropical Season')


I try to always jump out of the middle but, often enough i'm made to get up on the Right side then the wrong side.
Quoting TampaSpin:


I try to always jump out of the middle but, often enough i'm made to get up on the Right side then the wrong side.

: )
Looking forward to your blog update, Tampa

BUY LOCAL
Quoting KEHCharleston:

:) Looking forward to your blog update, Tampa

BUY LOCAL


Yep your 100% on buy local.....i have been going out to eat at the mom and pop cafes and dinner spots.....my wife and i have had fun going at the local owned little spots....secondly its great food.
no that stupid high out west did it

Hey! We're not all high out west!

;)
532. GBlet
Where does that leave us folks in the middle?
533. GBlet
Has anyone seen Mikey yet today? Personally I think he has spent too much time staring at those crystal skulls.
Quoting NRAamy:
no that stupid high out west did it

Hey! We're not all high out west!

;)



hmmmmmmm?


Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Warning Number EIGHTEEN
TEMPETE TROPICAL MODEREE FANELE (07-20082009)
16:00 PM Réunion January 22 2009
===========================================

At 12:00 PM UTC, Moderate Tropical Storm Fanele (994 hPa) located at 25.2S 50.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The storm is reported as moving southeast at 15 knots

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5

Gale-Force Winds
=================
40 NM from the center extending up to 75 NM in the southern semi-circle and between 60 NM and 90 NM in the northeastern quadrant within a peripheral band

Near-Gale Force Winds
======================
55 NM from the center extending up to 100 NM in the northeastern quadrant, up to 120 NM in the southeastrn quadrant, and up to 130 NM in the southwestern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
12 HRS: 27.0S 51.5E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Moderée)
24 HRS: 29.3S 52.7E - 35 knots (Devenant Extratropical)
48 HRS: 32.1S 56.2E - (EXTRATROPICAL)
72 HRS: 34.1S 60.9E - (EXTRATROPICAL)

Additional Information
========================
The system is tracking again oversea since yesterday at 21.00 PM UTC when it left Malagasy as a tropical disturbance, at about 80 kms south of Farafanga (23.5S 43.6E). The system still has a good tradewind inflow but stays however in the northern edge of a northwesterly upper level jet. This jet could make some good poleward outflow but could generate little shear constraint in the same time which is expected to be limitant.

Most of the available NWP models are in good agreement with the forecast track.

************************************

FOR YOUR INFORMATION : EXTRATROPICAL DEPRESSION [1000 HPA] 45 KNOTS GUSTING TO 50KT. EX-ERIC IS CENTERED NEAR 38.0S 69.1E MOVING SOUTHEASTWARDS AT 50KT.
536. GBlet
For some of us buying local does not work. All of the beef and grains are trucked out leaving us to pay shipping and handling to buy back. Not to mention closet major shopping is 50+ miles in any direction. But if I needed farm equipment I can get all I need right here...
can't see the photo, Gulf....
533. GBlet 9:18 AM PST on January 22, 2009
Has anyone seen Mikey yet today? Personally I think he has spent too much time staring at those crystal skulls.


did he buy that last Indian Jones DVD? lame...
Quoting NRAamy:
can't see the photo, Gulf....



probably a good thing. ;)
536. GBlet 9:22 AM PST on January 22, 2009
For some of us buying local does not work. All of the beef and grains are trucked out leaving us to pay shipping and handling to buy back. Not to mention closet major shopping is 50+ miles in any direction. But if I needed farm equipment I can get all I need right here...


you can always hunt for fresh meat...
RE:MADAGASCAR: Cyclone double whammy The short of it is that although hit hard (flooding was quite bad), they were prepared
Quoting GBlet:
Where does that leave us folks in the middle?
Asleep?
Quoting GBlet:
For some of us buying local does not work. All of the beef and grains are trucked out leaving us to pay shipping and handling to buy back. Not to mention closet major shopping is 50+ miles in any direction. But if I needed farm equipment I can get all I need right here...
I understand that it just is not always feasible. However, some everyday products in your grocery store are made in USA, I just suggest that you read labels.

BUY LOCAL


Madagascar might get Gael as well..
543. GBlet
I prefer to buy real food versus made in U.S. We tend to do terrible things to our food. I grow everthing I can try to stay away from conveniece foods.


Don't understand why Jakarta won't release tropical cyclone outlooks..
545. GBlet
I'm hoping for a better season weather wise this year. Had a very hard time getting tomatoes to mature. Every 3 or 4 years we get a wacy season and either melons or tomatoes suffer.
546. GBlet
Not really into Indie movies, I prefer facts over fiction.
Quoting GBlet:
I prefer to buy real food versus made in U.S. We tend to do terrible things to our food. I grow everthing I can try to stay away from conveniece foods.

I hear you - I do not have a green thumb (or any land - just a porch), but whenever possible, I buy from local farmers.
In addition, we are lucky as some of the grocery stores here sell local produce. I disagree that food produced in the USA is less safe food produced else where. I know that I can eat grapes from California, but the grapes from Chile make me sick. I suspect it is whatever is used to keep them fresh through shipping etc.
My test is this: I buy a some "fresh" produce, leave it in the fridge for about 5 days. If it does not look like it is going bad, I do not eat it -- and I do not buy that brand anymore. - 'Cause that just ain't natural. Try it with the grapes from Chile - see what I mean?

But it not just meats and produce.

What the South Carolina Ocean Caught Shrimping Industry wants you to know
Friends Do Not Let Friends Eat Imported Shrimp
Say No To Drugs - Do Not Eat Imported Shrimp

Besides you do not manufacture toothbrushes, dish detergent, clothes, paper etc in your hometown - but when you buy these you can read the label.

BUY LOCAL
For me BUY LOCAL means
1) Local Market - if not available then
2) South Carolina - if not available then
3) Southeast USA - if not available then
4) USA - if not available then
5) Canada,Central & South America; Great Britain - if not available then
6) Countries that do not already own a large amount of our economy

The less energy used to transport goods the better it is for all of us
no Mexico? You'll buy from Central and South America, but not Mexico?
Quoting NRAamy:
no Mexico? You'll buy from Central and South America, but not Mexico?


I was thinking of Mexico as Central America
I definitely buy from Mexico - love the avocados grown there.

Also include the Caribbean/Bahamas as well.

In fact - just say the Americas!

Except Venezuela - I am not speaking to Chavez ;)
California Avocados are better....

:)
552. GBlet
Actually KEH, we are home to Fuller brush, so we can get brushes of all sorts and their brand name cleaners. I mainly meant convenience foods, that's where the horror lies. Corn is so much prettier on the cob than out of a box. My kids thought I was the coolest mom around for letting them have fresh popcorn for breakfast. Took alot of flack from other parents for feeding my kids junk food.
Quoting NRAamy:
California Avocados are better....

:)

They are bigger
Quoting GBlet:
Actually KEH, we are home to Fuller brush, so we can get brushes of all sorts and their brand name cleaners. I mainly meant convenience foods, that's where the horror lies. Corn is so much prettier on the cob than out of a box. My kids thought I was the coolest mom around for letting them have fresh popcorn for breakfast. Took alot of flack from other parents for feeding my kids junk food.


Amen to that!
I will look for Fuller products.
KEHCharleston

(looking around...ummm)
(backs off the soapbox)
I just updated my Weather Blog if anyone would like to view.....it has a Super Bowl Forecast!

TampaSpins Weather Blog Link
557. GBlet
KEH, you will probably need to look online as they are a little tough to find.
Quoting NRAamy:
California Avocados are better....

:)
CA avocados are itty, bitty things compared to the FL avocados. Hass do taste better though!
559. GBlet
mmmmmm...Guacamole
there once was a man named Hugo
he think he tell us all ....where - You go
a short little man
round in the middle
who liked to hear his own fiddle.

and yes his brother Fidel
these days was not feeling so well.
but soon the cigars
of beautifal Havana
will be smoked
in the land of the free


the scotsman did then write a poem
and dropped it in blogs where he roamed

about the powerful nation
that stretched out it's hand
to Fidel and that little round man


and a wonderous thing
began like spring
when the people started to sing

you see if you live in fear
you will soon disapear
or at least get flown back to Crawford

but if you imagine a dream
of the common man
sharing the hopes that we have

you will soon understand
you will fast overcome
Fidel and that Little Round Man
Quoting GulfPoet:
there once was a man named Hugo
he think he tell us all ....where - You go
a short little man
round in the middle
who liked to hear his own fiddle.

and yes his brother Fidel
these days was not feeling so well.
but soon the cigars
of beautifal Havana
will be smoked
in the land of the free


the scotsman did then write a poem
and dropped it in blogs where he roamed

about the powerful nation
that stretched out it's hand
to Fidel and that little round man


and a wonderous thing
began like spring
when the people started to sing

you see if you live in fear
you will soon disapear
or at least get flown back to Crawford

but if you imagine a dream
of the common man
sharing the hopes that we have

you will soon understand
you will fast overcome
Fidel and that Little Round Man
From your lips to God's ears - Still those with the name Hugo have created enough problems for us.
Can lead a horse (or ass) to water - but you can't make him drink.
Wouldn't mind visiting Crawford, wouldn't want to live there.
No man's ambition should be to be "Common"
MODIFIED
CA avocados are itty, bitty things compared to the FL avocados. Hass do taste better though!

it's quality...not quantity...

;)
563. GBlet
It's puff puff pass Gulf...
Quoting KEHCharleston:

Can lead a horse to water - but you can't make him drink.



I'm thinkin' Hugo would sip down a Margarita or two while Smoking with Fidel.


Cuba would have been a suburb of Miami many many years ago without the Embargo, and the Castro brothers probably Hotel owners on the beach.
Quoting GulfPoet:
Cuba would have been a suburb of Miami many many years ago without the Embargo, and the Castro brothers probably Hotel owners on the beach.

Agree with you there, GulfPoet

Please read my modification to post 561
No man's ambition should be to be "Common"


Beneath the stars, in the far off deserts, a bedowin family puts their child to sleep. By the campfire, they talk and dream, make love and fall asleep. In a small village in China, after toiling through the day in the rice fields, the ritual of the common man is repeated. A mother picks up her kids from soccer practice in Chicago, and her husband returns from the board of trade - exhausted they gather for a TV dinner, tuck the kids to bed, and the ritual is once again completed.

Or shall I be driven and strive with ambition to reach the penthouse office high above Wall Street. There - in the dark of night, plot the theft of millions of those small little common creatures futures - to line my own golden parachute?

If the mighty of wealth and pride filled rulers of banks and nations - had a little more ambition to be common - then I think the wolrd would be a better place.

But I am just a poet.
Quoting GBlet:
mmmmmm...Guacamole
UMMM is right! Raised on those Fl avocados (grandfather had groves down in South Florida) and they are sure yummy.....Buy local! LOL
I feel sorry for the Press Secretary for Obama right Now....He is getting drilled right now and he's is scrambling for words...wow
567 gulfy
"But, I'm just a poet"?
That's your opinion.
Tired Marxist ramblings maybe.
RE:567. GulfPoet

Yikes! Let me rephrase that:
Instead of No man's ambition should be to be "Common" (I had not considered that the term ambition is often equated with corporate greed)

Perhaps this is more apt:
No child's dream should be to be "Common"

It is those who follow on their dreams that become the excellent parents, the poets, the future mets.

It is those who figure out how to get water to the village, or supplies to victims of Ike, who think outside the box, while others remain in the box.
Quoting TampaSpin:
I feel sorry for the Press Secretary for Obama right Now....He is getting drilled right now and he's is scrambling for words...wow
Yeah, but David Gregory isn't going for the throat like he has in the past.
Quoting theshepherd:
Yeah, but David Gregory isn't going for the throat like he has in the past.


Gregory is a pupet to the Agency he represents and works for.......NO SURPRISE is it......LOL
Quoting TampaSpin:
I feel sorry for the Press Secretary for Obama right Now....He is getting drilled right now and he's is scrambling for words...wow

It will take a while to get up to speed, I would imagine. No doubt the press can be vicious.
Quoting theshepherd:
567 gulfy
"But, I'm just a poet"?
That's your opinion.
Tired Marxist ramblings maybe.



oh come now Shep. be nice.
Remember we have not quite finished Atlas Shrugged yet. ;)
571. KEHCharleston 7:15 PM GMT on January 22, 2009


:) no need to yikes. i just happened to find inspiration to babble in your words.
GulfPoet

Just checked on your blog - Was glad to see you are working on Chapter 3

I also see that you have turned your blog over to GW - you are a brave person. Should be fun

Quoting GulfPoet:



oh come now Shep. be nice.
Remember we have not quite finished Atlas Shrugged yet. ;)
Which chapter now?
Quoting KEHCharleston:
For me BUY LOCAL means
1) Local Market - if not available then
2) South Carolina - if not available then
3) Southeast USA - if not available then
4) USA - if not available then
5) Canada,Central & South America; Great Britain - if not available then
6) Countries that do not already own a large amount of our economy

The less energy used to transport goods the better it is for all of us


First, you need to demand your congressman pass a bill about clear packaging detailing the source.

The only way I know that Tree Top, Musselman's, and Lucky Leaf all use concentrate from China to make apple juice is that I eventually noticed the words "CONC CHINA" in 1/8 inch tall dot-matrix print on the bottle itself (not the label).
Shockingly, the only reasonably priced all USA apple juice I found was Sam's not-from-concentrate USA apples only juice at freaking WalMart! Floored me that a WalMart brand would be far more local than Musselmans, Lucky Leaf, Tree Top, and a couple more I cannot remember at the moment. (Mott's, maybe?) In fact, that juice (as I do have a 4yr old and a 2yr old) is the only reason I am willing to go to that aforementioned place.
(Quota for the number of times in a day I can think, write, or say WalMart has been exhausted). Damn. Exceeded now.
working on about 3/4 of the way through shep
Quoting TampaSpin:


Gregory is a pupet to the Agency he represents and works for.......NO SURPRISE is it......LOL
How did you like the "lame" excuse for the Blackberry? And the "elected withholding of info" from the Freedom of Information Act??? Gregory would have jumped all over that one in his "other life".
Quoting atmoaggie:


First, you need to demand your congressman pass a bill about clear packaging detailing the source.

The only way I know that Tree Top, Musselman's, and Lucky Leaf all use concentrate from China to make apple juice is that I eventually noticed the words "CONC CHINA" in 1/8 inch tall dot-matrix print on the bottle itself (not the label).
Shockingly, the only reasonably priced all USA apple juice I found was Sam's not-from-concentrate USA apples only juice at freaking WalMart! Floored me that a WalMart brand would be far more local than Musselmans, Lucky Leaf, Tree Top, and a couple more I cannot remember at the moment. (Mott's, maybe?) In fact, that juice (as I do have a 4yr old and a 2yr old) is the only reason I am willing to go to that aforementioned place.
(Quota for the number of times in a day I can think, write, or say WalMart has been exhausted). Damn. Exceeded now.

Thanks - I was looking for apple juice from apples grown in USA. Never thought to try Wal-Mart.

When labels are unclear, I have emailed manufacturers/producers. Usually they respond.

Congress has quite a bit to accomplish right now - so I think that will be on hold for a while

Quoting GulfPoet:
working on about 3/4 of the way through shep
Poor dear...round and round and round.
Skip to page 1000. The book could have started there as well.
Poor dear...round and round and round


like a record, baby, right round, round round....
Quoting NRAamy:
Poor dear...round and round and round


like a record, baby, right round, round round....



(slap).... not again.. sticking that song in my head
Quoting theshepherd:
Poor dear...round and round and round.
Skip to page 1000. The book could have started there as well.



i will cheat
(slap).... not again.. sticking that song in my head

better than MMMMM-bop by Hansen....

;)
Quoting theshepherd:
How did you like the "lame" excuse for the Blackberry? And the "elected withholding of info" from the Freedom of Information Act??? Gregory would have jumped all over that one in his "other life".


Great way for a President to commuinicate without making public knowledge......is it different then any other President Yes....I have no problem....as i don't believe everything needs to be public knowledge to begin with.....The poor guys has a life outside of being President that should be Private...
I have just updated my blog with
Regular everyday products made in the USA

These are ones I thought of off hand - some times companies change manufacturers etc, so you still need to check the labels.

Would love for you to add to the list
Quoting GulfPoet:
Cuba would have been a suburb of Miami many many years ago without the Embargo, and the Castro brothers probably Hotel owners on the beach.
Nix. You don't know the Cubans very well. Let Fidel stick his murdurous head up amongst the free Cubans and see what happens. The embargo saved Fidel's murderous sorry scalp.
Quoting GulfPoet:



i will cheat
Good. Cheat. Hurry up and finish the stupid thing. I want you to read Aztec next.
mike here,was wondering,what does everybody think about the area of low pressure of the coast of belize?Looks like this disturbance stands a chance of developing into a tropical depression or even a storm,it has a well defined area of circulation mostly in the mid level atmosphere but i can see a low level swirl as well closer to the surface if you look at the visible satellite.
There is no currently analyzed low pressure area in the Carib:



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594. GBlet
VORT!!!
595. GBlet
I sure hope we can squeeze some moisture out of the system blowing in tomorrow. We are beyond dry here.
We are beyond dry here.


where is "here"?


low level cloud deck no dev at this time
598. GBlet
Central Ks Amy, about 40ish mile from geographical center of US.
ok, thanks!

:)
600. GBlet



most land locked place on earth..
that would freak me out....
just checking in fellow wunderbloggers!!!,its been a bit chilly here in swfl the last 48hrs,but it'll be 75 by sat.,finally got my computer fixed now,I'll be checking in from time to time until may,then i'll be back on every day full force!!!!!take care stay warm and safe everyone!!!!-
603. GBlet
What scares you Amy?
just testing u guys,lol i no there is no convection over the area of circulation nor is the conditions ripe for development but thanks for ur input i appreciate it im new here i just signed up i am in college for my last year of schooling hope to be on t.v. some day i have the skill for it maybe you will see me when your flipping through the channels on the weather channel but id rather get a job with the local news center in boston.I will try my hardest to be as accurate as i can be,anytime there is a possible storm or is i will post my thoughts and predictions on the situation that develops good weather bores me lol
605. GBlet
I've been here almost 12 years. The cost of living is low and the people are friendly. Lots of clear skies and rolling plains.
Quoting GBlet:
I've been here almost 12 years. The cost of living is low and the people are friendly. Lots of clear skies and rolling plains.


Lots of tornadoes too, right?
603. GBlet 12:52 PM PST on January 22, 2009
What scares you Amy?


being land-locked....I get claustrophobic....need to see the ocean....
609. GBlet
I have to admit that I miss the water, that's why I going to Tx in June. Gonna stay a whole month!
610. GBlet
Yes TF, plenty!! I now have my Masters in duckin and dodgin!!!
Quoting GBlet:
Yes TF, plenty!! I now have my Masters in duckin and dodgin!!!


Envious, I am.
612. GBlet
Come join us for the chase this season, I personally think it's gonna be jumpin here!! I am ready this year, got a quality camera, just waiting patienlt for winter to pass.
May just have to do that. Let's hope gas prices remain static or fall...
614. GBlet
Hoping the same thing. Man it's so dry here the old folks are farting dust. I hope this aproaching system brings something our way. It's 69 here, but that will change tonite.
615. GBlet
I guess I will take my toys and go home now...
NO TSUNAMI THREAT TO AUSTRALIA


Issued by the Joint Australian Tsunami Warning Centre (JATWC) at 07:45 AM EDT

on Friday 23 January 2009


********************************************************************************

SUMMARY:


The Joint Australian Tsunami Warning Centre has detected an earthquake that has

also been reported as being felt near Darwin.


The earthquake of magnitude 6.1 has occurred at 2016 UTC on 22 January 2009 in

the Banda Sea.


Based on the magnitude and location of this earthquake THERE IS NO TSUNAMI

THREAT

TO THE AUSTRALIAN MAINLAND, ISLANDS OR TERRITORIES.


No further updates will be issued unless the situation changes.

Year 2008 Storm Events Link
This animations shows the storms observed by the GOES satellite from July to September,2008


Ok lets have a poll on when the first storm of the season will form who thinks Ana will form
1 in January, February, March, or April.
2 May 1-15
3 May 16-31
4 June 1-15
5 June 16-30
6 July 1-15
7 July 16-31
8 After July
I,m going for #5 for now
Ice breaking off Antarctica


A huge shelf of ice is on the brink of splitting from the continent at the bottom of the world

take a look on whats on yahoo news right now


Link
Temperture forecast for next Thursday....Hopefully the SuperBowl activities get in before the front gets to Tampa.....

Quoting all4hurricanes:
Ok lets have a poll on when the first storm of the season will form who thinks Ana will form
1 in January, February, March, or April.
2 May 1-15
3 May 16-31
4 June 1-15
5 June 16-30
6 July 1-15
7 July 16-31
8 After July
I,m going for #5 for now

I say 3.
Quoting Bobbyweather:

I say 3.

Do you rrally think we'll have three years in a row with a pre-season storm? no to shoot you down, it could happen
Quoting all4hurricanes:

Do you rrally think we'll have three years in a row with a pre-season storm? no to shoot you down, it could happen

I change my mind to between 3 and 4.
Love this cool weather! Warming trend on the way..forecast high for West Palm next Thursday is 85, which would tie the record high set in 1991...Then a cool down again!
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Summary
TROPICAL DEPRESSION SIX-F
9:00 AM FST January 23 2009
================================

At 21:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression SIX-F (1006 hPa) located near 18.2S 164.5W is reported as moving south at 10 knots. Position GOOD based on infrared imagery with animation, peripheral observations, and latest QUIKSCAT Pass. Sea surface temperatures around the region is 29C.

Tropical Depression SIX lies along a monsoonal trough, under a 250 HPA diffluent region in a moderately sheared environment. Low level circulation center slightly obscured with pulsating convection to the east. The depression is expected to continue in a general southward direction towards cooler sea surface temperatures. Another low level circulation lies embedded in the trough, northwest of Tropical Depression SIX,

Global models [US/UK/EC] has picked up tropical depression SIX and continues to move the system south with little intensification

POTENTIAL FOR TD 06F TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE IN THE NEXT 24 TO 48 HOURS IS LOW.
Quoting all4hurricanes:
Ok lets have a poll on when the first storm of the season will form who thinks Ana will form
1 in January, February, March, or April.
2 May 1-15
3 May 16-31
4 June 1-15
5 June 16-30
6 July 1-15
7 July 16-31
8 After July
I,m going for #5 for now


6. Then again, I thought 2008 would start off relatively slow too, and then pick up, so meh.
Quoting KoritheMan:


6. Then again, I thought 2008 would start off relatively slow too, and then pick up, so meh.
I asked this last year and some people got it. maybe I'll have a point system.
3pts to those who get it right 1 to those who guessed an adjacent time frame. somebody else did that I forget who
The Hurricane Dolly Post Storm Report is out from the NHC. They weakened Dolly to a Cat 1 at landfall.
Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Warning Number TWENTY
EXTRATROPICAL DEPRESSION EX-FANELE (07-20082009)
4:00 AM Réunion January 23 2009
===========================================

At 0:00 AM UTC, Extratropical, Ex-Fanele (995 hPa) located at 27.8S 51.8E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The storm is reported as moving south-southeast at 15 knots

Dvorak Intensity:

Gale-Force Winds
=================
40 NM from the center extending up to 65 NM in the northeastern quadrant and up to 140 NM in the southern semi-circle

Near-Gale Force Winds
======================
70 NM from the center extending up to 110 NM in the northeastern quadrant and up to 230 NM in the southern semi-circle

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
12 HRS: 30.1S 53.1E - 35 knots (EXTRATROPICAL)
24 HRS: 31.8S 54.8E - 30 knots (EXTRATROPICAL)

Additional Information
========================
Classical imagery (IR, Water Vapor) sugges that Finale is no an extratropical cyclone. Residual deep convection that was located in the southern semi-circle has vanished during the night. However, this system still produce some strong winds as shown by the ASCAT Pass around 18.00z. A wide central area of relatively weak winds (diameter about 40 to 50 NM) surrounded by a crown of strong winds can still be depicted.

Most of the available NWP models are in good agreement with the forecast track. Wind should progressively abate along the forecast track before the system merges with a mid-latitude trough at the end of the forecast.
Quoting SevereHurricane:
The Hurricane Dolly Post Storm Report is out from the NHC. They weakened Dolly to a Cat 1 at landfall.


And I remember some people saying it may have been a major hurricane at landfall. <_<
Anybody hear cracking to the south?

Link
Does the post analysis say anything about any other storms like Gustav or Fay?
I updated my Weather Blog this afternoon with a SuperBowl Forecast.

TampaSpin's Weather Blog Link
looks like the high in Tampa Super Bowl Sunday upper 50's to low 60's...Go Steelers!
Quoting KoritheMan:


And I remember some people saying it may have been a major hurricane at landfall. <_<


yea i know right, it certainly made me chuckle.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
looks like the high in Tampa Super Bowl Sunday upper 50's to low 60's...Go Steelers!


SuperBowl is not until next Sunday......not this Sunday..
Correct...February 1st
high this sunday in tampa around 72
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Correct...February 1st


Yep ....there should be a front coming thru about next Friday.....
It's funny that here in West Palm..high next Thursday near record high...then temps drop substantially... sure fire signal that a front is coming through
hope it is a cool night for my super bowl party!
MODIS Rapid Response Images Link
.....so....Dolly didn't "stack" up as we'd thought....
....Dolly was "utterly" less impressive than we thought.`...
Seems like Dolly was a "bust"
maybe the rainfall of Dolly produced less "jugs" than we thought....
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
tampa...do the long range forecasts show fronts easily passing through fla?


The GFS long range forecast has a low developing on 2/1 SuperBowl Sunday in the GOM and moving across Florida moving up the East Coast as a very strong NorEaster....interesting to see if the Model forecast is correct.
...but Dolly still did a lot of damage to the "bosom" of the Rio Grands Valley....
As a student of mathematics and of meteorology I love reading your blog from time to time. I am not sure as what to make of the Global Warming issue. I have read “An Inconvenient Truth” and use it to point out good and bad statistics to my classes. Personally I think the world is warming, but is it due to man or part of the evolutionary process of our planet, I don’t know. Some of the processes we have documented, like the 88-year sunspot cycles, are long-term and climate change might be even longer. As you begin to talk about the misinformation that is out in the media about global warming, I would love to see you address some basic concerns I see with data collection, data analysis, and to quote a popular movie, “where’s the money?” After all we know very well that liars figure and figures lie all the time. As soon as any issue becomes politicized, the lies increase dramatically on both sides of an issue as both sides cherry pick their data to prove their point (remember the intelligence leading up to the Iraq war on WMD).
First, your graph (from NASA) on 2008 global temperature has at the bottom a graph from 1880 to present (baselined to the 30 year 1950 – 1980 average) that shows a “global” surface temperature with 3 bars of uncertainty (about 1890, 1945, and 2005). These bars are decreasing over time. On the surface this makes perfect sense. A confidence interval’s margin of error (assumed to be at least part of the uncertainty listed in the graph) is made up of three components, a confidence level (unknown as it is not listed with the graph), a variance term (taken directly from the data), and a sample size term. Since the confidence level is not listed, not much can be said about it in any detail; only general comments can be made. IE, the higher the confidence level the broader the margin of error; conversely the lower the confidence level the smaller the margin of error. The lack of transparency on the confidence level is a red-flag to mathematicians that someone might be skewing results – since a 10% confidence level would have a smaller margin of error and look more “scientific” than a 90% confidence level that might be off the graph.
The variance term brings with it a whole set of issues on data collection. First, what is the precision of the measurements? According to mathematics any change that is below the precision of the measuring device is in the noise of the data collection. For example a thermometer that measures temperature to 1° C would have a precision of 0.5° C. Any changes less than that precision in average temperature data is in the noise level of the collection device and therefore unreliable. Surely the precision of our measuring devices have changed over time making our measurements more accurate and this leads to the lessening of uncertainty expressed in the data. But it also makes drawing conclusions on small changes in earlier collected data more problematical. The second area of concern with the variance term is in the location of the measuring devices themselves. If we look at a continuum of data collection points, most of the ones that have a long history associated with them are in the middle of population centers. Over time these population centers have become temperature “hot points” (as any infrared satellite imagery can document). Increases in temperature over time in these “hot points” could make measurements from these “hot points” to be possible outliers in the overall data. Since humans tend not to populate the distant cold lands, the readings, especially the further back we go, from these areas would be underrepresented in the data and could possibly skew our model’s output (global temperature). Since most of the surface of our planet is oceans, we probably have these areas underrepresented in our data, again especially the further back we go as well. All this to say, that from a statistical standpoint, we have a lot of things that contribute to the uncertainty in the data.
Obviously as the number of collection points increase (our sample size increases), the uncertainty in our data should decrease. We need to be careful to avoid convenience sampling techniques as any statistician would tell you that they are unreliable. Without better insight to the distribution of the collection sites, I couldn’t begin to make any comment on whether that would apply here or not.
For those of us without access to the data, we have to trust others to accurately analyze and interpret the data. Try and research the material on the internet and you will be buried in opinion pro and con on any issue – with lots of purported documentation. With so many examples of peoples’ and companies’ lack of integrity in these studies, many times it comes down to who paid for the study to be done and what vested interests did the investigator have in the study. Obviously if several studies concluded that our climate change is due to a natural evolutionary process of our planet and there’s very little we can do about it, then I don’t think these people will get any more money to study the issue (not from a political viewpoint, but a scientific – no need to spend more money on a settled issue). Insight into these area would be helpful.
Quoting LostHobbit:
As a student of mathematics and of meteorology I love reading your blog from time to time. I am not sure as what to make of the Global Warming issue. I have read “An Inconvenient Truth” and use it to point out good and bad statistics to my classes. Personally I think the world is warming, but is it due to man or part of the evolutionary process of our planet, I don’t know. Some of the processes we have documented, like the 88-year sunspot cycles, are long-term and climate change might be even longer. As you begin to talk about the misinformation that is out in the media about global warming, I would love to see you address some basic concerns I see with data collection, data analysis, and to quote a popular movie, “where’s the money?” After all we know very well that liars figure and figures lie all the time. As soon as any issue becomes politicized, the lies increase dramatically on both sides of an issue as both sides cherry pick their data to prove their point (remember the intelligence leading up to the Iraq war on WMD).
First, your graph (from NASA) on 2008 global temperature has at the bottom a graph from 1880 to present (baselined to the 30 year 1950 – 1980 average) that shows a “global” surface temperature with 3 bars of uncertainty (about 1890, 1945, and 2005). These bars are decreasing over time. On the surface this makes perfect sense. A confidence interval’s margin of error (assumed to be at least part of the uncertainty listed in the graph) is made up of three components, a confidence level (unknown as it is not listed with the graph), a variance term (taken directly from the data), and a sample size term. Since the confidence level is not listed, not much can be said about it in any detail; only general comments can be made. IE, the higher the confidence level the broader the margin of error; conversely the lower the confidence level the smaller the margin of error. The lack of transparency on the confidence level is a red-flag to mathematicians that someone might be skewing results – since a 10% confidence level would have a smaller margin of error and look more “scientific” than a 90% confidence level that might be off the graph.
The variance term brings with it a whole set of issues on data collection. First, what is the precision of the measurements? According to mathematics any change that is below the precision of the measuring device is in the noise of the data collection. For example a thermometer that measures temperature to 1° C would have a precision of 0.5° C. Any changes less than that precision in average temperature data is in the noise level of the collection device and therefore unreliable. Surely the precision of our measuring devices have changed over time making our measurements more accurate and this leads to the lessening of uncertainty expressed in the data. But it also makes drawing conclusions on small changes in earlier collected data more problematical. The second area of concern with the variance term is in the location of the measuring devices themselves. If we look at a continuum of data collection points, most of the ones that have a long history associated with them are in the middle of population centers. Over time these population centers have become temperature “hot points” (as any infrared satellite imagery can document). Increases in temperature over time in these “hot points” could make measurements from these “hot points” to be possible outliers in the overall data. Since humans tend not to populate the distant cold lands, the readings, especially the further back we go, from these areas would be underrepresented in the data and could possibly skew our model’s output (global temperature). Since most of the surface of our planet is oceans, we probably have these areas underrepresented in our data, again especially the further back we go as well. All this to say, that from a statistical standpoint, we have a lot of things that contribute to the uncertainty in the data.
Obviously as the number of collection points increase (our sample size increases), the uncertainty in our data should decrease. We need to be careful to avoid convenience sampling techniques as any statistician would tell you that they are unreliable. Without better insight to the distribution of the collection sites, I couldn’t begin to make any comment on whether that would apply here or not.
For those of us without access to the data, we have to trust others to accurately analyze and interpret the data. Try and research the material on the internet and you will be buried in opinion pro and con on any issue – with lots of purported documentation. With so many examples of peoples’ and companies’ lack of integrity in these studies, many times it comes down to who paid for the study to be done and what vested interests did the investigator have in the study. Obviously if several studies concluded that our climate change is due to a natural evolutionary process of our planet and there’s very little we can do about it, then I don’t think these people will get any more money to study the issue (not from a political viewpoint, but a scientific – no need to spend more money on a settled issue). Insight into these area would be helpful.


Could you repeat that please ?
Quoting presslord:
...but Dolly still did a lot of damage to the "bosom" of the Rio Grands Valley....

I know..."You're tired".
Saw you in Patrap's video earlier. Haven't aged a bit. LOL
Quoting all4hurricanes:
Does the post analysis say anything about any other storms like Gustav or Fay?


No; the reports for them aren't out yet. Just go to the Seasons Archive page on the NHC website, and you'll be able to view the reports there.
Futures in Curde Oil is still falling.....
Someone come visit my blog and join the contest. Make your pre-season predictions now.
Quoting all4hurricanes:
Ok lets have a poll on when the first storm of the season will form who thinks Ana will form
1 in January, February, March, or April.
2 May 1-15
3 May 16-31
4 June 1-15
5 June 16-30
6 July 1-15
7 July 16-31
8 After July
I,m going for #5 for now


4
Good morning.
Current temps and conditions from selected stations across the state of Florida.
Link
Thanks for posting Cybrted
I heard Fanele killed three people and took the roof off of a hospital so it wasn't just a storm passing by.
Got 35 - degrees to wake up to this morning in SWFL - better then yesterday.... still nasty. Quietly waiting for Spring
Quoting TampaSpin:


Yep ....there should be a front coming thru about next Friday.....


Say it isn't so!
From: Ross Hays, NASA Columbia Scientific Balloon Facility

[mailto:Ross.Hays@csbf.nasa.gov] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:35 AM To: steig@ess.washington.edu
Subject: New data show much of Antarctica is warming

Eric,
Let me first say that this is my own opinion and does not represent the agency I work for. I feel your study is absolutely wrong. There are very few stations in Antarctica to begin with and only a hand full with 50 years of data. Satellite data is just approaching thirty years of available information. In my experience as a day to day forecaster that has to travel and do field work in Antarctica the summer seasons have been getting colder. In the late 1980s helicopters were used to take our personnel to Williams Field from McMurdo Station due to the annual receding of the Ross Ice Shelf, but in the past few years the thaw has been limited and vehicles can continue to make the transition and drive on the ice.

One climate note to pass along is December 2006 was the coldest December ever for McMurdo Station. In a synoptic perspective the cooler sea surface temperatures have kept the maritime storms farther offshore in the summer season and the colder more dense air has rolled from the South Pole to the ice shelf.

There was a paper presented at the AMS Conference in New Orleans last year noting over 70% of the continent was cooling due to the ozone hole. We launch balloons into the stratosphere and the anticyclone that develops over the South Pole has been displaced and slow to establish itself over the past five seasons. The pattern in the troposphere has reflected this trend with more maritime (warmer) air around the Antarctic Peninsula which is also where most of the automated weather stations are located for West Antarctica which will give you the average warmer readings and skew the data for all of West Antarctica.

With statistics you can make numbers go to almost any conclusion you want. It saddens me to see members of the scientific community do this for media coverage.

Ross Hayes



Icecap Note: Ross was a CNN forecast Meteorologist (a student of mine when I was a professor) who has spent numerous years with boots on the ground working for NASA in Antarctica, not sitting at a computer in an ivory tower in Pennsylvania or Washington State.


Link
661 vort
thanx
In concern for my beloved oceans and the increasing acidity that appears to be having a negative impact on my beloved little coral thingies,I offer the following for review and comment:
Being a stubborn southern Cracker, I like to work on my own vehicles. When my AC compressor went out on my Suburban I decided to fix it myself. Bought some gauges and a how-to book and dug an old vacuum pump out of the,where did I get all this crap, pile and set off on the adventure.
In the intro section was a thorough review of AC theory. To my suprize it seems CO2 is an excellant gas for AC operation. It requires high pressure and any vehicle currently in use would require a costly retrofit to employ CO2 as a coolant. They mentioned future legislation on the subject. Haven't heard any more about it. Where do you get all that CO2 from?
Coal fired power plants are dirty beasts. Coal fired power plants with CO2 scrubbers are clean beasts. They are researching how to dispose of the CO2. Even considering pumping it down onto solid rock at high pressure to displace the water in the rock where it will be forever trapped. Interesting.
It is my desire to bring this technology into the sunshine in hopes that someone who thinks on a far grander scale than me can influence Congress to explore the validity of this idea.
Please comment...
Re Post #651

theshepard...Losthobbit did a great job of cutting to the chase on his/her explanation.

Except for needing to break up the comments into several additional paragraphs, it was well thought out and very concise.

What you read was the type of commentary that the grand blogmaster could take a few tips from. Everyone knows the data collection system is flawed and instead of demanding that it be corrected, everyone seems to be willing to accept software assumptions.

As bad as our drug system is, can you possibly imagine how bad it would be if they also used those types of assumptive data analysis. Tons more people would be dying from bad drugs than they are now.

Have you ever read a medical journal article?

Have you noticed the list of references at the end of those articles. With that information a person can go out and determine for themselves whether or not the author of that article is either correct or smoking something funny.

For some reason, those involved in weather study and analysis have a seriously challenged work ethic. Instead of demanding standards of placement and certification, they tap dance around the fact that most of their data is invalid by saying the software has been 'adjusted to account for the anomalies'.

Can anyone here actually prove we have free and easy access to the underlying data that those folks are using?

For some reason, its okay to be a sloppy scientist when it comes to the weather.
664
What I read was a paraphrase of the same old subject that has been beaten black and blue here. Nothing new.
Have I ever read a medical journal article?
Yes,dear.
Morning All: A beautiful 32 here this morning and more frost - lost a few plants the last few days.

Surfmom: You were missed on Rob's blog last night. Men dominated!
mornin' conchy
"Men dominated"?
Of course.
Nothing less could be expected of the Dominant Paradigm.
Quoting all4hurricanes:
Ok lets have a poll on when the first storm of the season will form who thinks Ana will form
1 in January, February, March, or April.
2 May 1-15
3 May 16-31
4 June 1-15
5 June 16-30
6 July 1-15
7 July 16-31
8 After July
I,m going for #5 for now


I go for #3.
Quoting theshepherd:
664
What I read was a paraphrase of the same old subject that has been beaten black and blue here. Nothing new.
Have I ever read a medical journal article?
Yes,dear. Have you ever given a distemper shot to a half crazed Leopard???
Quoting theshepherd:
mornin' conchy
"Men dominated"?
Of course.
Nothing less could be expected of the Dominant Paradigm.
Morning Shep - ok don't start again. LOL
yes dear
;>)
Ok another artic front coming through this weekend,enough already!!!!
Surfmom your quietly waiting for spring,me on the other hand am not being so quiet.
WHERE THE HECK IS SPRING!!!!!!!
Quoting NEwxguy:
Ok another artic front coming through this weekend,enough already!!!!
Surfmom your quietly waiting for spring,me on the other hand am not being so quiet.
WHERE THE HECK IS SPRING!!!!!!!



Spring.. I'll take summer at this point :)

Quoting conchygirl:
Morning All: A beautiful 32 here this morning and more frost - lost a few plants the last few days.

Surfmom: You were missed on Rob's blog last night. Men dominated!


That's what they think.....

it's not Father Nature.... it's Mother Nature
Quoting charlottefl:



Spring.. I'll take summer at this point :)



when your up north here,you learn not to get too far ahead of yourself,our high temp this month has been 40,about half the days of the month have not gone above freezing,spring sounds just fine for me.
theshepard,

The question regarding reading a medical article was meant as a conversational segue and not as a slur.

Whats the difference between a half crazed leopard and a fully crazed leopard? Would you shoot a fully crazed leopard with a gun or hypodermic needle?

:-)
For the poll~ with ENSO where it is, I like 3 or 4.. a few days either side of June 1st.

Big chunk of Antarctica's pennesula is about to break off. POES flies over it a few times a day, for another few weeks it can't get a good reading through clouds but that's no reason to toss the data on clear days. Ecosystems are creaping toward the poles with record melts occuring in many places. The argument that the oceans are undermeasured, with satalites, countless buoys & even the cruise ships getting in on collecting data doesn't make much sense. Your not gonna find the data out there in a media article, you don't need to turn to research either. Start with the links Dr Master's left above & begin to learn about the satellites, find their data pages. It is out there & available to look at. Right around the 15th it gets grouped into a nice monthly package that is pretty easy to understand. Looking beyond the data it's obvious our world has gotten a little hotter. It would be irresponsible to throw the bushel out over a few bad apples.
RE: poll Door #2
Quoting Skyepony:
Big chunk of Antarctica's pennesula is about to break off. POES flies over it a few times a day, for another few weeks it can't get a good reading through clouds but that's no reason to toss the data on clear days. Ecosystems are creaping toward the poles with record melts occuring in many places. The argument that the oceans are undermeasured, with satalites, countless buoys & even the cruise ships getting in on collecting data doesn't make much sense. Your not gonna find the data out there in a media article, you don't need to turn to research either. Start with the links Dr Master's left above & begin to learn about the satellites, find their data pages. It is out there & available to look at. Right around the 15th it gets grouped into a nice monthly package that is pretty easy to understand. Looking beyond the data it's obvious our world has gotten a little hotter. It would be irresponsible to throw the bushel out over a few bad apples.


RE: Buoys - I still would love if the numbering system made more sense. Especially as buoys are added. Perhaps the first 2-3 digits indicated the location (North Atlantic, Caribbean, Indian etc, etc) the next 2 digits the type of buoy and the last digits would be an individual number for that type buoy in that particular body of water. I know that I check the Folly Beach buoy daily for it's readings.

RE: Ships
An interesting adjunct to monitoring the oceans, I think. Very cool. For those interested you might find this site helpful.

RE:Satellites
I have been interested in figuring which satellites I am seeing above me. Even using REAL TIME SATELLITE TRACKING it is not as easy as I had hoped. (It does not help that I am usually not anywhere near my computer when I see the light)
There are other websites as well, I am just beginning this 'hobby' so I have not tried them all out.
I am hoping some of you could share the sites you use to track the satellites above your head.

Though I am not sure that I agree the above covers the oceans.
According to NOAA:
The ocean covers 71 percent of the Earth's surface and contains 97 percent of the planet's water, yet more than 95 percent of the underwater world remains unexplored.
That is an awful large part of the earth that has been ignored in this Global Warming Debate.

I heartily agree that most of us want 'the facts, ma'am, just the facts'. Both side are playing politics and (I suspect) fast and loose with statistics.

In any case -
The US still needs a real energy policy

Pollution is still a hazard

We our depending on the wrong people for the energy that keeps us running (where is that good old American independence that has served us well in the past)

We give our jobs and money away, and wonder why our economy suffers

And we blame this political party, or that political party, or other countries, or corporate CEO's, etc, etc, ad nauseum

Be an informed consumer
Read the labels
Support your neighbor
Every day products made in the USA
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