# TUNNELS STOP "TICKING TIME BOMB" !!

By: cyclonebuster , 12:44 AM GMT on June 22, 2008

Kyle and Laura could be your next pending Catastrophe.Lets see if Kyle and Laura pan out in this situation??? Looks like Kyle and Laura can arrive somewhere on the East coast after forming in the Eastern Carribean Sea or Western Atlantic. This hurricane season I want to try something different with the "Tunnel" simulation. Lets suppose a catagory 5 hurricane is going to hit the USA this year with 165 MPH winds. In order for such a strong hurricane to exist we will assume it is well organized over 90 degree water. Lets assume the tunnels are in cooling phase generating electrical power and lets see how the computer model will compute wind speed of the hurricane based on SSTs prior to landfall.
Since the Tunnels can cool SSTs all the way down to 70 degrees lets have the computer calculate wind speed with every degree of drop from the 90 degree water in which the hurricane exists prior to landfall. This should work anywhere in the GOM or along the East coast. The first SST calculation at 90 degrees is given.

Will different computer models give us different results? How many models are out there that can give us such results.

MAXIMUM POTENTIAL ACTUAL POTENTIAL

70 degree water = 82 MPH
71 degree water =
72 degree water =
73 degree water =
74 degree water =
75 degree water =
76 degree water =
77 degree water =
78 degree water =
79 degree water =
80 degree water = 155 MPH
81 degree water = 160 MPH
82 degree water = 170 MPH
83 degree water = 180 MPH
84 degree water = 190 MPH
85 degree water = 200 MPH
86 degree water = 210 MPH
87 degree water = 220 MPH
88 degree water = 230 MPH
89 degree water = 240 MPH
90 degree water = 250 MPH

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##### 81. cyclonebuster
2:35 PM GMT on July 28, 2008
 Anyone finding Cicadas this year? I found this one on the 26th.
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##### 80. cyclonebuster
2:20 PM GMT on July 25, 2008
 See the model?
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##### 79. cyclonebuster
6:44 PM GMT on July 24, 2008
 What the Heck here is a 1/600 scale model of a tunnel station.
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##### 78. cyclonebuster
5:27 PM GMT on July 23, 2008
 Ok! Time to swap the "TUNNELS" to Non-Cooling phase now that Dolly has almost made landfall and is forecast to go West into Texas. Remember during both stages of operation the "Tunnels" have continued to crank out Megawatt after Megawatt of pure clean hydroelectrical power 24/7/365 before during and after the storm. The Gulfstream and Loop Current will begin to warm back up again slowly as the Tunnels will ramp the temperatures up slowly at about 1 degree every 4 hours.For now we will keep a watchfull eye on the tropical atlantic for other tropical storm formation and decide when to place the Tunnels back into cooling phase again if needed.
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##### 77. cyclonebuster
3:18 PM GMT on July 23, 2008
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##### 76. cyclonebuster
3:14 PM GMT on July 23, 2008
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##### 75. cyclonebuster
3:59 PM GMT on July 22, 2008
 This is about as strong as Dolly could ever get if the Tunnels were in operation.
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##### 74. cyclonebuster
4:28 PM GMT on July 21, 2008
 Looks like half a hurricane to me.
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##### 73. GulfScotsman
4:26 PM GMT on July 21, 2008
 looks like half a tropical storm right now.but that will change
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##### 72. cyclonebuster
4:23 PM GMT on July 21, 2008
 Looks like a hurricane to me folks. What say you????????
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##### 71. cyclonebuster
3:49 PM GMT on July 21, 2008
 New visible vort. fix is at 22.8N 89.9W.This is certain.Link
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##### 69. cyclonebuster
1:57 AM GMT on July 21, 2008
 And now Dollys turn for the "Underwater Suspension Tunnel" simulation. Dolly would not have a chance to threaten the USA with 70 degree water in the loop current and cooling the GOM.If this plays out you will see how valuable the "Tunnels" truly are. I think with 70 degree water she can only get 78 MPH winds according to Kerry Emanuels maximum wind speed potential based on SSTs formula.
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##### 68. cyclonebuster
12:44 AM GMT on July 20, 2008
 Anyway, Christobal would never have a chance at a Cat 2 hurricane with the "Tunnels" in operation since they can cool the SSTs down to 70 degrees in this area. According to Kerry Emanuels wind speed potential based on SSTs the strongest a storm can get in 70 degree water is 78 MPH just a small Cat 1 hurricane.
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##### 67. cyclonebuster
12:30 AM GMT on July 20, 2008
 Anyway, Christobal would never have a chance at a Cat 2 hurricane with the "Tunnels" in operation since they can cool the SSTs down to 70 degrees in this area.
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##### 66. cyclonebuster
12:04 AM GMT on July 20, 2008
 MichaelSTL,Yes the oil companies are bound to be mad at them but the insurance companies would welcome them. Perhaps,they can be the new energy giants here.
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##### 63. cyclonebuster
1:22 AM GMT on July 19, 2008
 So at ~26C SSTs the strongest a hurricane can get based on Kerry Emanuels formula is:45 meter/second = 100.662 133 14 mile/hour
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##### 62. cyclonebuster
3:00 AM GMT on July 18, 2008
 Since the "Tunnels" are already in cooling phase this area of disturbed weather located at 31N and 82W could never reach hurricane status.Link
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##### 61. cyclonebuster
7:26 PM GMT on July 14, 2008
 Cape Verde season seems to be in full September swing. The "TUNNEL" idea can prevent this from occuring in the future. Who wants the "CAPE VERDE" season to start a full two months early. At this time I am going to leave the "Tunnels" in cooling phase as 94L seems to be ramping up its activity. The area in which 94L is could mean this storm could go futher West than Bertha has. Still, I would think it would be unwise to remove the "Tunnels" from cooling phase at this time with such activity in the Atlantic right now.
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##### 60. cyclonebuster
8:53 PM GMT on July 12, 2008
 Further proof the "TUNNELS" will weaken the hurricane came from proof that upwelling weakens hurricanes as mentioned in such discussions as this. The Tunnels upwell enormous amounts of cooler sea water to the surface thus mixing with the warmer waters at the surface and cooling them.As the storm passes over these now cooler waters the storm weakens.000WTNT42 KNHC 122037TCDAT2HURRICANE BERTHA DISCUSSION NUMBER 39NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022008500 PM EDT SAT JUL 12 2008AN AIR FORCE PLANE HAS COMPLETED TWO PASSES THROUGH THE EYE OFBERTHA AND THE MAXIMUM FLIGHT LEVEL WINDS WERE 79 AND 74 KT. THESFMR ON BOARD OF THE PLANE DID NOT REPORT ANY HURRICANE FORCEWINDS...IN FACT...THE STRONGEST WINDS WERE 58 KNOTS IN THESOUTHEAST QUADRANT. THE BEST ESTIMATE OF THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS65 KNOTS...MAKING BERTHA BARELY A HURRICANE. ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONSARE NOT HOSTILE FOR SOME STRENGTHENING BUT BERTHA HAS BEEN LOCATED TOO MANY HOURS IN THE SAME AREA PRODUCING UPWELLING. THE HURRICANEHAS LOST A LOT OF THE DEEP CONVECTION BUT THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATIONIS LARGE AND VIGOROUS WHILE THE OUTFLOW IS WELL ESTABLISHED.THEREFORE...BERTHA COULD GATHER SOME STRENGTH WHEN IT GETS OUT THATAREA OF COOL WATERS INDUCED BY THE HURRICANE ITSELF. FORNOW...BERTHA IS KEPT AS A 65 KNOT HURRICANE FOR A DAY OR TWO WITH AGRADUAL WEAKENING THEREAFTER DUE TO INCREASING SHEAR. BERTHA ISLIKELY TO BECOME LARGER AS IT GAINS LATITUDE AND BEGIN TO INTERACTWITH THE MID-LATITUDE FLOW. BERTHA HAS BARELY MOVED DURING THE DAY. THE PATTERN OF WEAK STEERINGCURRENTS IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT DAY OR TWO....SO ONLYA PAINFULLY SLOW NORTHWARD MOTION IS ANTICIPATED. BEYOND THREEDAYS...BERTHA IS EXPECTED TO BE FULLY EMBEDDED WITHIN THEMID-LATITUDE CIRCULATION AND LOCATED BETWEEN AN EASTWARD MOVINGTROUGH AND A LARGER CUT OFF LOW TO THE EAST. THIS PATTERN SHOULDFORCE BERTHA ON A SLOW EASTWARD TRACK. THIS IS THE SOLUTIONPROVIDED MY MOST OF THE GLOBAL MODELS AS WELL AS THE DYNAMICAL TRACKGUIDANCE.FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 12/2100Z 29.9N 62.6W 65 KT 12HR VT 13/0600Z 30.4N 62.7W 65 KT 24HR VT 13/1800Z 31.0N 62.7W 65 KT 36HR VT 14/0600Z 32.0N 62.8W 65 KT 48HR VT 14/1800Z 33.0N 62.8W 60 KT 72HR VT 15/1800Z 34.5N 61.5W 55 KT 96HR VT 16/1800Z 35.5N 59.0W 50 KT120HR VT 17/1800Z 35.5N 56.0W 50 KT\$\$FORECASTER AVILA
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##### 59. cyclonebuster
4:43 AM GMT on July 11, 2008
 Looks like Bertha has gobbled up the ULL between her and Florida.Link
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##### 58. cyclonebuster
3:43 AM GMT on July 11, 2008
 Ok the cool water from the Loop Current tunnel stations have reached the Key West Tunnel stations. This means the Loop Current tunnel stations can do the job of cooling the Loop Current and Gulstream together. We can now switch the Key West tunnel stations to non-cooling phase and still continue to crank out those hundreds of thousands of megawatts from both stations.The cool water has now traveled from the Yucatan Channel all the way up the East coast to North Carolina thus protecting the GOM and the East coast of the United States.Any catagory 5 hurricane crossing this safe barrier will be weakened to a weak cat 2 storm at most according to the maximum wind speed potential chart based on SSTs.Link
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##### 57. cyclonebuster
3:07 PM GMT on July 10, 2008
 "THE NEW FORECAST TRACK WILLCALL FOR A SLOW NORTHWARD MOTION DURING THIS TIME AS A COMPROMISEBETWEEN THE VARIOUS TWISTS AND TURNS OF THE TRACK GUIDANCE. HOWEVER...THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT BERTHA COULD JOG LEFT OF THEFORECAST TRACK CLOSER TO BERMUDA AS SHOWN BY THE GFS...UKMET...ANDCANADIAN MODELS. AFTER 72 HR...A SECOND MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGHMOVING INTO THE WESTERN ATLANTIC SHOULD WEAKEN THE RIDGE...WHICHSHOULD CAUSE BERTHA TO MOVE SOMEWHAT FASTER TOWARD THE NORTH."
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##### 56. cyclonebuster
1:51 PM GMT on July 10, 2008
 Why have the computer models been Eastcasting for the past 10 days and 2000 miles?
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##### 55. cyclonebuster
1:07 PM GMT on July 10, 2008
 One senerio that COULD happen not that it will happen but I have been seeing this for days now. Then it's Andrew all over again."The current trof may miss her, and that's why I'm calling for slower motion later. Another scenario, which is slim at the moment, is that she remains just far enough south, and the ridge over the south do something weird, like lift northeastward, and north of Bertha."Yep! That's the ticket.It will roll over to the North of Bertha. You will see the current ULL between Florida and Bertha move westward as this takes place Bertha should follow it as the trof lifts out. Anyways, my "Tunnel" simulation has protected the US coastline now from Key West to Jacksonville and has also cooled the loop current in the GOM in advance of any arrival of a hurricane. Link
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##### 54. cyclonebuster
12:31 AM GMT on July 10, 2008
 The tunnels will prove man made global warming WAS real.
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##### 53. cyclonebuster
12:14 AM GMT on July 10, 2008
 "HOWEVER...THIS TROUGH ISFORECAST TO BYPASS BERTHA TO THE NORTH AND LEAVE IT BEHIND INRELATIVELY WEAK STEERING CURRENTS." 000WTNT42 KNHC 092032TCDAT2HURRICANE BERTHA DISCUSSION NUMBER 27NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022008500 PM EDT WED JUL 09 2008BERTHA'S SATELLITE PRESENTATION HAS DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED DURING THELAST 6 HOURS. THE CYCLONE NOW HAS A DISTINCTIVE EYE AND ISSURROUNDED BY A SYMMETRIC RING OF COLD CLOUD TOPS. THE INITIALINTENSITY IS RAISED TO 90 KT BASED ON A BLEND OF THE SATELLITECLASSIFICATIONS FROM SAB AND TAFB. BERTHA IS FORECAST TO BE IN ASEEMINGLY FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE NEXT DAY OR SO ANDCONTINUED STRENGTHENING IS EXPECTED IN THE SHORT-TERM. BEYOND 36HOURS...VERTICAL SHEAR IS STILL EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY INCREASE ANDSSTS SLOWLY FALL. THIS ENVIRONMENT IS EXPECTED TO RESULT IN A SLOWWEAKENING TREND THROUGH THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. IT SHOULDBE NOTED THAT BERTHA COULD BECOME A LITTLE STRONGER THAN CURRENTLYFORECAST IN THE FIRST 24 HOURS. BERTHA HAS RECENTLY WOBBLED A LITTLE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS MOTIONESTIMATE BUT THE 12 HOUR AVERAGE MOTION IS ESSENTIALLYUNCHANGED...305/10. THE TRACK FORECAST PHILOSOPHY IS THE SAME ASIN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. A MID-TROPOSPHERIC ANTICYCLONECURRENTLY OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC IS FORECAST TO MOVENORTHEASTWARD WHILE A SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVES OFF OF THE U.S. EASTCOAST. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN BERTHA MAKING A GRADUAL TURN TOWARDTHE NORTH DURING THE NEXT 2-3 DAYS. HOWEVER...THIS TROUGH ISFORECAST TO BYPASS BERTHA TO THE NORTH AND LEAVE IT BEHIND INRELATIVELY WEAK STEERING CURRENTS. ACCORDINGLY...THE OFFICIALFORECAST SHOWS A SLOW NORTHWARD MOTION AT DAYS 3 AND 4. A SECONDTROUGH MOVING OFF THE UNITED STATES EAST COAST ON DAY 5 COULDRESULT IN SOME NORTHWARD ACCELERATION LATE IN THE FORECAST PERIOD. IN GENERAL...TRACK MODELS HAVE CHANGED LITTLE SINCE THE LASTADVISORY...AND THE NEW OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS ESSENTIALLY ANUPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS ONE.IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO KNOW WHETHER BERTHA WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ONBERMUDA. INTERESTS ON THAT ISLAND SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THEPROGRESS OF THIS HURRICANE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 09/2100Z 24.8N 58.1W 90 KT12HR VT 10/0600Z 25.6N 59.2W 100 KT24HR VT 10/1800Z 26.8N 60.2W 100 KT36HR VT 11/0600Z 28.0N 61.0W 100 KT48HR VT 11/1800Z 29.1N 61.3W 95 KT72HR VT 12/1800Z 31.0N 61.5W 85 KT96HR VT 13/1800Z 32.5N 61.0W 80 KT120HR VT 14/1800Z 35.5N 60.0W 75 KT\$\$FORECASTER RHOME
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##### 51. cyclonebuster
3:04 AM GMT on July 09, 2008
 Doesn't she look like a Westward moving storm now. Hurricane center still saying NW????????????All the troffs to her North are bypassing her. She will follow the Low centered midway between her and Florida for now and below the high to her North thus shunting her Westward. The troff on the East coast may lift out also and then we may have an Andrew storm all over again. Link
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##### 50. cyclonebuster
12:25 AM GMT on July 09, 2008
 West she goes???
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##### 49. cyclonebuster
10:00 AM GMT on July 08, 2008
 Is the stall coming? It slows down another two MPH.BERTHA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH...17 KM/HR...ANDTHIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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##### 48. cyclonebuster
12:49 AM GMT on July 08, 2008
 Also,Now that Bertha is now a Cat.3 storm on the Saffir Simpson scale she is a major hurricane. A hurricane can not reach this status crossing the cooler waters that the tunnels provide while in cooling stage.If the storm is a cat.5 prior to crossing it will be a Cat. 2 at most when it is finished crossing. So it is a good thing we turned them on a day ago.
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##### 47. cyclonebuster
12:13 AM GMT on July 08, 2008
 Hi windymiller. Seems like the GFS and BAMM think like I do on this. Although who would ever think that high pressure could build to the NW of the system this time of year thus slowing the storms forward progress down to 12 miles per hour now instead of the 20 mph it was traveling earlier today? Could it be the "Bermuda High" starting to establish its self? Would this not force Bertha off to West again? Anyways, this is just a simulation for the "Tunnels" if Bertha were to head this way. If Bertha doesn't come this way, all we have to do is switch the "Tunnels" back to non-cooling stage if the forecast is wrong. Of course all questions are welcome. Ask away???????Link
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##### 46. windymiller
3:37 PM GMT on July 07, 2008
 So now that Bertha may be a threat to the US coastlinewhere on earth do you get this kind of wishcasting from?!!!! there is no model/forecaster that even hints of this.
##### 45. cyclonebuster
6:40 PM GMT on July 06, 2008
 Looks like 3 to 4 days of cooling would be sufficient. 5.4 degrees per/day sounds good.This means we must start cooling sooner.The storm is 7 to 10 days away still so I think we may still make it by the time the storm gets there. Computer modeling should tell us when to start cooling also. Right now I am shooting from the hip on this.
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##### 43. cyclonebuster
6:07 PM GMT on July 06, 2008
 Ok at this time the TUNNELS have ramped down temperatures in the Loop Current and Gulfstrean down to 70 degrees sea surface temperature in preperation to Berthas arrival. I used the 1 degree every 3 hour ramp rate to be on the safe side all the way down to the 70 degree threshold.Bertha may be somewhere in the vacinity in 5-7 days. In five days the TUNNELS have cooled an area of ocean 40 miles wide by 600 miles long. In 7 days the area is 40 miles wide by 840 miles long. With both TUNNEL loctions in place a total area of cooling for the five day period is 40 miles wide by 1200 miles long and seven days of cooling gives us 40 miles wide by 1,680 miles long. So now we have to sit back and wait and see what Bertha does with the computer models. What will the computer models tells us about what will happen to Bertha as she crosses the now lower SSTS?? How many differnet models are there that can do this??
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##### 42. cyclonebuster
2:34 AM GMT on July 06, 2008
 To be on the safe side I am going to start ramping down Loop current and Gulfstream temperatures for Bertha. What ramp rate would be safe for the sea life. Computer modeling should also give us this figure? 1 degree per hour? 1 degree every 2 hours? 1 degree every 3 hours?
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##### 41. cyclonebuster
2:31 AM GMT on July 06, 2008
 Bigger CDO now right over the center.Link
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##### 40. cyclonebuster
7:53 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 Oh boy. Who's going to tell millions of people to move from the coastline? Talk about anarchy. That would be worse than if Andrew hit Miami.
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##### 39. WxWyz
7:45 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 Oh brother...How about instead of trying to control Mother Nature with gadgetry and far fetched sci-fi solutions we just stop overpopulating and overdeveloping coastal areas and learn how to better get the hell out of her way when she comes to town?! Because hurricanes are always going to come...at least until the world ends...which may be sooner than later.
##### 38. cyclonebuster
5:52 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 So now that Bertha may be a threat to the US coastline at what point do the computer models tell us to start the cooling phase of TUNNEL operation in preparation for Berthas arrival?Typically such a rapid thermal change in SST could harm the sealife but the great thing about the tunnels now is we can REGULATE the temperatures downward over a period of 24 to 72 hours or longer in order to prevent this. What would be a good ramp rate? One degree every hour? One degree every 2 hours? One degree every 3 hours?
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##### 37. cyclonebuster
5:41 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 Watch out South Florida.I'd be keeping a close eye on Bertha."A WEAKNESS IN THERIDGE BETWEEN 50W-60W IS FORECAST TO LIFT NORTHWARD AND THESUBTROPICAL RIDGE WILL REMAIN THE PREDOMINANT STEERING MECHANISMFOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THIS SHOULD KEEP BERTHA ON A GENERALWEST TO WEST-NORTHWEST HEADING AT A RATHER BRISK PACE." 000WTNT42 KNHC 051452TCDAT2TROPICAL STORM BERTHA DISCUSSION NUMBER 10NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL0220081100 AM EDT SAT JUL 05 2008WHILE MOVING OVER COOLER WATERS DURING THE PAST 24 HOURS BERTHASTRUGGLED A LITTLE BIT...HOWEVER NOW THAT IT IS HEADING FORSLIGHTLY WARMER WATERS BERTHA APPEARS TO BE A LITTLE BETTERORGANIZED. THE CYCLONE HAS MAINTAINED A CLUSTER OF DEEP CONVECTIONJUST NORTH AND WEST OF THE CENTER DURING THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS. DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES REMAIN BETWEEN 35-45 KT AND THE INITIALINTENSITY IS UNCHANGED. CONDITIONS SHOULD BECOME MORE CONDUCIVEFOR STRENGTHENING AS SSTS ALONG THE PROJECTED PATH GRADUALLYINCREASE AND THE SHEAR REMAINS LOW DURING THE NEXT 3 DAYS. THE NEWNHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS UNCHANGED THROUGH 48 HOURS BUT NOWPREDICTS BERTHA TO REACH HURRICANE STRENGTH IN 72 HOURS. THEREAFTER...DUE TO UNCERTAINTIES IN THE AMOUNT OF PREDICTEDSHEAR...THE INTENSITY IS HELD A LITTLE BELOW THE LGEM...SHIPS...ANDGFDL MODELS WHICH SHOW ADDITIONAL INTENSIFICATION.BERTHA HAS BEEN MOVING A LITTLE MORE WESTWARD DURING THE PAST 6-12HOURS AND THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 280/18. A WEAKNESS IN THERIDGE BETWEEN 50W-60W IS FORECAST TO LIFT NORTHWARD AND THESUBTROPICAL RIDGE WILL REMAIN THE PREDOMINANT STEERING MECHANISMFOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THIS SHOULD KEEP BERTHA ON A GENERALWEST TO WEST-NORTHWEST HEADING AT A RATHER BRISK PACE. THEREREMAINS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MODEL SPREADS AT DAYS 4 AND 5. HOWEVER...MOST OF THE MODEL TRACKS HAVE SHIFTED A LITTLENORTHWARD...EXCEPT FOR THE UKMET WHICH KEEPS A WEAKER TROPICALCYCLONE MOVING WESTWARD. THE MODEL CONSENSUS SHIFTED VERY CLOSE TOTHE NHC TRACK...SO LITTLE CHANGE WAS NEEDED FROM THE PREVIOUSOFFICIAL FORECAST. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 05/1500Z 16.6N 37.3W 45 KT12HR VT 06/0000Z 17.0N 40.1W 45 KT24HR VT 06/1200Z 17.6N 43.9W 50 KT36HR VT 07/0000Z 18.4N 47.6W 55 KT48HR VT 07/1200Z 19.1N 51.2W 60 KT72HR VT 08/1200Z 20.8N 57.5W 65 KT96HR VT 09/1200Z 23.0N 62.5W 65 KT120HR VT 10/1200Z 25.0N 67.0W 65 KT
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##### 36. cyclonebuster
3:51 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 That little feature can turn into something, also. A small but noticable vort exists to its South at 16N and 57W. Lets see how that pans out??? Speed it up and zoom in on the visible here and you can see the vort. in motion.Link
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##### 35. cyclonebuster
3:23 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 By midnight tonight or sooner it will be a hurricane. Remeber Andrew moving at this speed?
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##### 34. cyclonebuster
3:15 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 Bertha has to slow down its forward motion in order to turn,correct? I don't see it happening do you?
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##### 33. cyclonebuster
3:06 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 Bertha is very close to a hurricane now.
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##### 32. cyclonebuster
3:00 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
 Bertha now has a CDO over its vort. at 37.5W and 16.8N. How you like that vortfix?
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##### 31. cyclonebuster
2:48 PM GMT on July 05, 2008
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