The fascinating story of ice cream, Part I

By: Proserpina , 5:11 PM GMT on August 24, 2012


I doubt whether the world holds for anyone a more soul-stirring surprise than the first adventure with ice cream.
~Heywood Broun


Have you ever met a person who doesn’t love ice cream? I have not!

Ice cream - it tastes better than any other dessert, creamy, smooth, soft, cold, mouth-watering flavors. It is served after a meal for dessert, during a meal as a digestive sorbet, eaten during a passeggiata, on a hot day to cool down, on a cold day just for the pure pleasure. It lifts up the spirit, it helps a child feel better, and it evokes wonderful childhood memories.

Voltaire said it well:

“Ice cream is exquisite. What a pity it isn't illegal.”

The origins of ice cream is traced back to antiquity, albeit not in the form we know today. There are many references in ancient texts, both in ancient texts and in archeological findings.

In the Bible, Isaac offers Abraham goat milk mixed with snow, one of the first references to ‘ice cream’.

In ancient Troy pits designed to preserve ice and snow have been found during archeological excavations.

Historical tradition says that King Solomon was a frequent user of frozen drinks, and that Alexander the Great continuously ate snow mixed with fruit and honey during his marches and battles. Records show that Alexander had his slaves bring ice down from the mountains into the trenches during the siege of Petra.

Some researchers have concluded that the origin of ice cream goes back three thousand years BC in China. It is an improbable conclusion, certainly it wasn’t the form of ice cream we know today. What is true, however,is the fact that the Chinese did discover how to conserve winter ice for summer use by storing it in ice-houses.
Marco Polo brought back from China the information of how to artificially freeze a mixture of water and saltpeter.

Egyptian Pharaohs served a granita like dessert during banquets. Supposedly Cleopatra offered Caesar and Anthony fruit mixed with ice.

Ancient Romans produced their nivatae potiones(my best translation is ‘iced drinks’ or ‘drinks cooled with snow’).
Snow was brought to Rome from the volcano Vesuvius,and from Etna in Sicily.
General Quinto Fabio Massimo invented a type of sorbet, and Emperor Nero offered his guests a drink made with cut up fruit, honey, and snow. (I suppose he kept cool eating his snow concoctions while Rome burned!)

Towards the end of the IX century, the Arabs who invaded Andalusia(Spain)and Sicily brought with them the cultivation of sugar cane, and citrus fruit. The Arabs used sugar syrup instead of honey as a sweetener.
In Sicily sugar cane was grown in the area of Mount Etna, as were oranges and lemons (these fruits were known to the Greeks and Romans but were not eaten because they were too acrid). Etna snow was combined with fruit juices and sugar syrup,creating a sorbet.
The word sorbet comes from the Arabic word scherbet (probably derived from the Turkish word chorbet), meaning sweetened snow.
Long before the Arabs invaded Sicily, snow from Etna had been brought down to the towns in baskets, surrounded by hay and salt. Then it was deposited in deep cellars where it kept for several months. In fact Etna snow and ice was a thriving trade business with Rome and other Mediterranean areas.

Returning Crusaders from the Holy Land brought back recipes for sorbets made from citrus fruit, mulberries, and jasmine.

During Middle Ages the sorbets and other ‘refined’ foods, disappeared from the culinary offerings. After all these foods were synonymous with sin!

The discovery of the New World in the 1500s (technically 1492) marked the end of the Middle Ages. With the end of the Middle Ages, ice cream as we know it today began its voyage to heavenly deliciousness! The art of living and eating well was revived once again.


The Renaissance brought many changes to the literary as well as the culinary world. It also brought a lot of controversy about who should be given the credit for the new era in ice cream making.

A Florentine, Catherine de’ Medici is given credit, by some, for bringing the sorbet to the court of Francis I (1494-1547) when she married the Duc d’Orleans (Henri II). It is thought that she brought her staff along to cook for her and her family. One of her chefs was a young man named Ruggeri. Ruggeri had participated in a contest to prepare ‘the most singular dish that had ever been prepared’. It seems that Ruggeri prepared an iced dessert, using old recipes and adding ‘a tad of fantasy’. The sorbet impressed the judges who declared “we have never tasted a dessert so exquisite before now’! Catherine and the Duc d’Orleans were married in Marseilles where during the wedding banquet Ruggeri served his sorbet. The year was 1533.

Generally,Florence(Italy)gets the credit for the first ice cream (gelato). A Florentine who was the architect to the Royal Court of the Medici family, Bernardo Buontalenti, was hired to organize luxurious events for their banquets. He was responsible for the stage constructions, theater events, fireworks, and food. For one of his food creations he invented frozen desserts made with zabaglione and fruit (Buontalenti had a good knowledge of chemistry).It is recorded that in 1565 the Medici were to receive a delegation from Spain. A sumptuous feast was prepared by Buontalenti which included a gelato. The happy Spaniards spread the word throughout Europe about the delicious gelato.

Truth or myth, the Florentines Ruggeri and Buontalenti are both given credit for the birth of the ‘real’ ice cream.


The following is my favorite epoch for the story of ice cream. It deals with a Sicilian who adopted a name held by some of my ancestors, a famous café’ where coffee, gelato, and intellectual conversation flourished.


Francesco Cuto’ known as Francesco Procopio dei Coltelli was born in Sicily. His Baptismal record found in a church in Palermo shows that he was born February 9, 1651. His parents were Onofrio Cuto’ and Domenica Semarqua. Francesco added Procopio as his second name, and the French gave him the surname Couteaux meaning knife in French. Cuto’ is a homophone of cuteaux. Translated back into Italian Francesco is now known as Francesco Procopio dei Coltelli. Procopio is derived from Procopius, a famous historian who wrote “Secret History, the Anekdota” (published for the first time in 1623). (Although Procopio is one of my ancestral maternal surnames, I have absolutely no connection to the father of ice cream.)

Francesco’s grandfather was a fisherman who liked to build ‘ice cream machines’. The grandfather left his invention, called gelatiere in Italian, to his grandson. Francesco improved his grandfather’s machine and when he thought that he could produce gelato (Italian ice cream) on a large scale, he decided to travel to Paris to promote his new product.


Francesco began his career in Paris by selling refreshments, including lemonade and coffee, from a kiosk (lemonade stand).In 1686 Francesco opened his café’ named Le Procope, the French version of his adopted name. Le Procope was a great success and it has become the oldest continually functioning café’ in Paris and perhaps the world. Yes, Le Procope is still in business today, more than three hundred years later! It has been refurbished in the 18th –century style and is run as a restaurant.

Le Procope served the exotic (for those times) coffee, sorbets in many flavors including strawberry, etc. King Louis XIV personally handed Francesco a special royal license to sell a mélange of refreshments including spices, ‘frozen waters’ flavored with anise, orange, lemon, cinnamon, frangipan. And of course, his improved version of the Italian ‘ice cream’ gelato. It was this gelato that gave Francesco the distinction of being called “The Father of Italian Gelato”.

Procope 1783
Clientele at Le Procope in 1743

Soon after Le Procope opened, the Comedie-Francaise also opened its doors. It was located across the street from the café’! The café’ became a famous cultural and political gathering place in the 18th and 19th centuries. Among notable people who frequented the café’ were Robespierre, Victor Hugo, Paul Verlaine, Honore’ de Balzac, La Fontaine, Gambetta, Anatole France, Voltaire, Rousseau, Alain-Rene’ Lesage, Georges Danton, Jean-Paul Marat, Denis Diderot, Jean le Rond d’Alembert, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Paul Jones, Oscar Wilde, Henry Wadsworth, Longfellow, Napoleon Bonaparte, George Sand, George-Luis Leclerc.

There are many stories about the people who frequented Le Procope, the following are just a few:


Voltaire is the one with the raised hand.

Voltaire's desk at Le Procope

Voltaire (1694-1778) consumed forty cups of coffee a day at Le Procope! Hopefully they were demi-tasse cups! Today above the door at Le Procope are found the following words: ‘Café’ a’ la Voltaire’. It was Voltaire who said “Ice cream is exquisite. What a pity it isn’t illegal”.

Plaque at Le Procope to honor Ben Franklin

When in 1790 the news of Benjamin Franklin’s death reached Paris, Le Procope was draped in black in his honor.

During the French Revolution the café’ was a meeting place for many revolutionaries. The Phrygian Cap, the symbol of Liberty, was first displayed at Le Procope.

Napoleon frequently had to leave his hat at Le Procope while he went in search of money to pay for his coffee!


TO BE CONTINUED…. Part II will be the next blog. The topic will be about the journey of ice cream in America (Colonies-USA).

Cafe'Procope ice cream recipe: half a liter of cream (2 cups); 25 cl of milk (one cl equals 10 ml); an egg yolk; 375 grams of sugar (a little over 12 oz). This recipe is definitely very different than the flavored ices served until Procope came up with this recipe.

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131. Proserpina
3:15 PM GMT on September 09, 2012
Ylee, I have not touched Thai food since that incident, over 25-30 years ago! The restaurant is now out of business! You are smart to be careful about what you ingest!

Bug, you and Alley
should have a meal together. A superhot/picante meal! I'll watch! He, he.
I do make a rather hot chili con carne but within reason. I grew up on heat-less cuisine! My family did not indulge in picante foods, just spicy and tasty. I guess we eat what our taste buds can handle.

Second part of the blog will be up after I take my solo walk. See you later.
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130. palmettobug53
2:49 PM GMT on September 09, 2012
Morning, Pros.

Glad to hear that you and Koko enjoyed your 'crawl.' lol

It's a good bit cooler here this morning, as well; about 75F.

It's rather gloomy here this morning. Overcast. It rained again sometime last night but I haven't checked the gauge yet. I don't think it was much, though.

Alley, that chicken dish sounds lovely. I love peppers and spicy foods but I have to satisfy my craving for heat all by my lonesome. Hubby can't handle it. He doesn't like the heat as he eats and it messes with his stomach. So, when I make chili or something, I add fresh or pickled peppers, horseradish, hot sauce, etc. to my serving or on the side. If we go to a Chinese buffet, I'll head for the Szechuan section!

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129. Ylee
2:19 PM GMT on September 09, 2012
Pros, I am way more wary than you when it comes to eating in resturants. If I don't know what an item is on the menu, or I strongly suspect that I won't like an item, I won't order it!

Hope you have a nice Sunday!
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128. Proserpina
2:19 PM GMT on September 09, 2012
Hi Alley, I just took a short walk with Koko (actually a short crawl), and it is delightful out there! Sunny and cool, so gorgeous! Finally.

Hey, hot and picante just like you! He he!
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127. Alleyoops
1:48 PM GMT on September 09, 2012
Good morning dear PROS and friends...Hand is feeling much better this morning, yes the milk helped the most, I should have known that having been a farmer. I remember when I had serious burns to my hand, I dipped it into the bulk tank that was full of milk and it was instantly relieved with no scaring. Think I will throw the rest of those hot peppers in a jar filled with vinegar. That will help bring out some of the heat their packing...its the seeds mainly that are the culprits. Yes I love my foods "spicy hot" Blame my sister for that who lives in TX..I had always loved Asian and Caribbean foods but when she took me to a real Tex/Mex place I fell in love with the foods. Since then I use a lot of hot chili peppers in my cooking. What I cook for myself is not for the faint hearted...ROFLMBO

Have a wonderful day, the weather is indeed gorgeous here this morning. Windows are opened and a nice breeze is blowing through. Temps are 66F. Love it.
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126. Proserpina
1:32 PM GMT on September 09, 2012
Patty, soooooooo sorry! Getting car problems while on a trip is not a fun thing. I hope that you get skillful help and they they do not charge you a mint. Stay safe, be aware of your surroundings..... Please tell Bug to be calm and eat some ice cream while you are waiting! Seriously, I am so sorry and do hope that you will be on your way very soon.

, so glad that your hand feels better. I must have read somewhere that milk helps and the info has stayed with me. I had to use it once when I was at a Thai restaurant and something that I ate almost killed me. Not just the burning but my throat closed up and could not breathe. I asked for milk which I tried to swallow a drop at a time, it helped and they called off the ambulance.
You sure like your food hot, I read the spices and herbs that you use on your chicken. If I want a little 'heat' I add a few flakes of dry hot pepper, or a little Tabasco. In Mexican cooking if needed, I use canned chilies.
Have a wonderful day, I hope that it is a gorgeous as ours. No humidity and nice and cool! It is our reward for last night's excitement.

Bug,Sandi and GG, good morning and have a wonderful day!
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125. redagainPatti
11:15 AM GMT on September 09, 2012
Hey and hi to all,
Anyone in here lives in Cheyenne, Wyoming? Our RV is broken down there. See more info on my blog. Meanwhile my trip to Gold Beach, OR is on hold. :-(
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124. sandiquiz
10:14 AM GMT on September 09, 2012
Hello, and goodbye :-)

As you said previously..... I will return!
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123. GardenGrrl
9:55 AM GMT on September 09, 2012
Good Morning. Cool and clear today. Can see all the "city stars".
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122. Alleyoops
4:34 AM GMT on September 09, 2012
Well here I am, 6 hrs after the fact and my poor hand is still stinging from those darn peppers yet they did not seem hot once cooked. They just added a nice flavor to the chicken dish. Its a simple dish really, carrots chopped finely, celery, jalapenos if you like, they can be omitted if you don't want any heat, one large onion chopped, one large bell pepper, chopped in large chunks, 3 chicken breasts with skins if you have them. Make sure to season your chicken well in advance so the flavor has time to build. I make my own blend of seasoned salt, with only l/8 salt to lots of garlic powder, cumin, celery seed, onion powder, paprika, cayenne and parsley. I also use alot of dried herbs. Anyway, sprinkle meat and veggies well with your seasoned salt, top with a layer of your favorite frozen potatoes, I like the rosemary and garlic sliced ones then place your seasoned chicken on top. Cover your casserole dish and bake in a 375 degree for an hour or until chicken is nice and browned. I always add a half to one cup of chicken stock to the dish for moisture to keep the veggies from burning in the bottom and they make their own sauce...Serve with crusty bread or a nice salad...

BTW, the milk seems to have helped the best. Still not l00% but better than it was...
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121. palmettobug53
12:21 AM GMT on September 09, 2012
yes, Pros, we've had showers off and on since about 1:00 this afternoon. Nothing like what you and other areas of the Eastern Seaboard and NY has been having. There's a big line moving thru SC now but it's between me and Dad. I think we might get that bit coming up from FL/GA later on tonight, tho.
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120. Proserpina
11:49 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Hi Bug and Alley. Yes, fresh jalapenos are pretty dangerous when handled without gloves! I stay away from the fresh ones and use the canned ones, they seem to be tempered when processed. I did have my experience years ago when we were in Mexico. I ordered one of their 'Mexican' omelets and when it came I dug into it. Yes, the omelet was full of jalapenos and my mouth was on fire! I learned a lesson that day, stick to American or Italian omelets!

So sorry Alley, I hope that the frozen bag of okra will help. It may sound silly but do you think a milk bath of the hand might help?

Bug, glad that you rescued the clothes from the possible rain. You sure are prepared for drying indoors! By the way, did it rain?

Stay well Bug and Alley.
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119. palmettobug53
11:30 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Oh, do tell, Alley. What kind of chicken dish are you fixing? I love peppers. I've gotten ahold of some jalepenos that were outrageously hot, much like what you're describing.

Sometimes that happens when there's hotter peppers being grown too close to others. They'll cross pollinate. I've had hot bell peppers before, as well as hot banana peppers that were supposed to be the sweet ones. Just because all the peppers were planted together.

I will have to say that I've never gotten burned before. Other than the tongue and mouth. Them must be some really, really HOT peppers.
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118. Alleyoops
11:25 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Good lord Pros...that was too close for comfort. I don't wish tornadoes on anyone. We had great weather here today with possible rain for tonite. Looks like we will be remaining in the low to mid 70s for the next week and a half. No complaints there.

Hard to type when one has to have one hand on a bag of frozen okra. I burned it when I was doing up the fresh jalapenos for my chicken dish. These are local and boy are they "hot" I always remove the seeds but this time the juice burned my left hand and I am having a hard time trying to get it to settle down. Nasty burn. I will have to be extra careful when using them. Never has happened before even with scotch bonnets but these peppers are outrageously hot to handle without gloves.

Anyway have a safe evening. Hope the worse of the bad weather is over and you can enjoy some of those nice cool temps we are getting.
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117. palmettobug53
11:04 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Glad to hear you and Raindad came through OK. I saw your post at Ylee's. That is so frightning when the rain comes down that heavily. And with tornado warnings up, too. I see there've been a few of them touching down today.

I had to run out and snatch my clothes off the line. There were some dark clouds building up.

My last load wasn't quite dry, so I hung a few things on my clothes racks in the front bedroom. I have two racks and they sure do come in handy. They fold up when not in use and I can store them behind the bedroom door.

I also have two of those over the door racks. I've had them for years.
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116. Proserpina
9:53 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Weathergeek5 and Ylee, thank you so much for your posts. They are most appreciated.

The storm is past, temperatures are down, and all is well here. I have heard of some damage around the region, one injury, and over a hundred thousand without power. Considering things, we did ok in this area.

Ylee, I see that you got my 'I'll be back' comment! He he. No, I have never seen any of Arnold's movies, and never will (not willingly anyways). I do not like violence even if it is make believe, and I do not like him for what he did to Maria/his family. Yes, I am being judgemental in this case.

Again, thank you for being so kind.
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115. Ylee
8:56 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Keep in touch, Ah-nold! :)
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114. Proserpina
8:26 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Hi, so far so good. Yes, we live near Fairfax City but we are ok. There are reports that a tornado touched down at Bailey's Crossroad, that also needs to be confirmed. And yes, we are squeezed between the two areas.

I'll be back.
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113. weathergeek5
8:21 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
From Capital weather gang:

Update, 3:50 p.m.: The National Weather Service reports that A TORNADAO HAS BEEN CONFIRMED by county officials near the city of Fairfax, moving east at 50 mph. TORNADO WARNING now til 4:15 p.m. central Fairfax County east to the D.C. line. In path of tornado: Alexandria, Huntington, Crystal City, Ballston, Woodrow Wilson Bridge, Nat’l Airport
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112. Ylee
7:38 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Heads up, Pros! Take cover!

... A Tornado Warning remains in effect until 400 PM EDT for the city
of Fairfax... and Fairfax County...

At 333 PM EDT... a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado
was located near Chantilly... or near the intersection of Highway 50
and I-66... and was moving east at 45 mph.

Locations impacted include...
the i66 and i495 interchange...

Take cover now. Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a
sturdy building and avoid windows. If outdoors or in a Mobile home or
vehicle... move to the closest substantial shelter and protect
yourself from flying debris.

Motorists should not take shelter under Highway overpasses. As a last
resort... either park and stay in your vehicle... or abandon your
vehicle and lay flat in a low spot.

This tornado may be wrapped in rain and hard to see. Do not wait to
see or hear the tornado. Take cover now
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111. Proserpina
6:11 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Hi janetlee, how discouraging to hang out your wash to dry and it gets rewet! We are expecting rain very soon, at least we are told that there is a 100% chance for rain.
So the preacher's husband made the wrong choice! But as we all know, golf comes first! No, the $ collected from the Senior Group is less than $10, it is the idea of winning that gets the guys interested.
I am having a quiet Saturday. I have been typing most of the day, it takes me a long time to type a new blog. Typing is not my forte'! Thinking either these days! So the second half of the ice cream story will go up very soon.
Thank you for the comment on my photo and the rating. The last time I looked at the ratings It was 9.2, I guess somebody out there doesn't care for my photo or Morning Glories or the quote or all of the above! LOL

Bug, I see that you also hang your laundry to dry. No rain is not a good thing when you have your clothesline full! I remember hanging clothes to dry when I was a teenager and later when we lived in Upstate NY. However living in Northern VA it is not conducive to air drying one's clothes nor linens.
It will be interesting to see which one of us will get the most rain. I just read on FaceBook that there was a tornado in NY, and that it caused lots of damage. I have not seen this info on the news.

Alley, can you send me some of your nice weather? It is so humid right now that bugs stick to one's skin! Even Koko doesn't want to be out there.
Glad that you are well provisioned with tasty ice cream. We still have some Tahitian Vanilla Gelato, hubby is leaving it for me and I for him! Let's see how long this wait for the other will last.

Hi Kat, how are you?

Hi Ylee! It would be nice if we had some decent weather soon!

Have a safe and happy weekend everyone.

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110. Ylee
6:03 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Looks like you're going to get some rain this afternoon, but at the moment, it doesn't look severe. At least tomorrow should be a beautiful day outside, so you can work off that gelato! :)

Take care!
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109. janetlee
5:43 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
I hope you are having a good saturday. I was until I heard raindrops pounding on the stove vent as I was preparing our lunch. The problem with that is the whole weeks wash was hanging on the line. there was not a cloud in the sky while I was putting it out.

So Hubby won some money on his game~~"way to go Hubby". I hope it was enough to take you out to dinner :)
Our Preachers husband works in D.C., coming home for the week-ends. Several weeks ago he was absent from church. As it turns out he stayed in D.C. for a golf tournament. He lost!

Nice photo of your morning glory in the main gallery today. As usually I gave it a 10.
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108. Alleyoops
2:54 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Good morning PROS. Well I got my ice cream yesterday, Chocolate fudge and mint. Temps are much cooler this morning, a nice breeze and the over night rains have ended. Sun is shining and the sky is a pretty blue with a few clouds. A perfect day in store by looks of things.

Hope you have a grand day today too. Enjoy.
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107. palmettobug53
2:07 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Good morning, Pros.

It looks like you and I may have some wet weather today and tomorrow.

Right now, it's fine, so I got an early start on the
weekly wash. I'm hoping I can get Hubby's work clothes and the whites washed, dried and back inside by lunchtime or shortly thereafter. The rest of it is more easily hung inside, if need be. I don't think rain is expected until late this afternoon or early evening but I'm not taking any chances.
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106. ColoradoKat
5:42 PM GMT on September 07, 2012
Quoting palmettobug53:
I've been contributing to the delinquincy of some coworkers by sharing the Talenti website with them. I've turned into a corrupting influence. There's no backing out now.

LOL, Bug!
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105. Proserpina
5:38 PM GMT on September 07, 2012
Hi Sandi, Belgian Waffles made in Belgium must be heavenly. I have been to Belgium but have no recollection of eating their breakfast specialty. I remember seeing the photo on your blog, I would love to see it again.

Yesterday was not raining hard but it really was an ugly looking day, humid, gloomy, just not comfortable. Today it is hot and humid but the sun is shining and gold must be played! My hubby did very well two weeks ago and won the small amount of money awarded to the weekly winners. Hubby did NOT tell me about his 'achievement'! I found out through a friend (not the one with whom hubby plays golf) who also plays with the same group. It is a Senior Citizen group at the local golf course, they meet on Tuesdays. Anyways, hubby is a humble person and did not mention it. Of course he is in trouble for not telling me! Not really, I just teased him.

Yes, now and then I do post on Flickr, as you know. It is a way to stay in touch with a few people such as you. Besides I get to see your lovely photos.

Ok, I'll be on the lookout for the Belgian Waffles photo.
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104. sandiquiz
5:23 PM GMT on September 07, 2012
I can't believe I haven't been to your blog for a couple of days.... I have seen you over in Flickr, so I know you are around.

I am sorry you disliked the Belgium waffle.... When C was living in
Brussels we often indulged, hence we both put weight one whilst he was there!

Hope hubby enjoyed his golf today, and if he decided not to play yesterday it must have been raining hard.

I have a photo of the stall where we got our waffles, and once I am on the big computer, and not on this little iPad, I will post it for you :-)
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103. Proserpina
4:48 PM GMT on September 07, 2012
Bug, we were typing at the same time. I am sure that your coworkers are enjoying (or will enjoy) your kind of corruption! He, he! We sure are having fun with our Talenti Gelato!
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102. Proserpina
4:47 PM GMT on September 07, 2012
Hello Bug and Kat.

The lady who tangled with the beaver is home from the hospital. She looks like she went through an ordeal, and she did. Not to mention the painful injections to deal with the bites of a rabid animal.

This morning my hubby and I went out for breakfast. I had a Belgian Waffle, something that I like very much. However this particular one was not particularly good, it was like eating spongy air. Ugh! Hubby liked his French Toast, eggs,, etc. Now hubby is at the golf course. Yesterday was such a bad weather day that he decided to come back home without playing golf.

Have a wonderful afternoon everyone.
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101. palmettobug53
4:41 PM GMT on September 07, 2012
I've been contributing to the delinquincy of some coworkers by sharing the Talenti website with them. I've turned into a corrupting influence. There's no backing out now.
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100. palmettobug53
3:06 AM GMT on September 07, 2012
We periodically read in the paper here about the police arresting people for dog fighting or cock fighting or having evidence thereof. Both are despicable pursuits and illegale. It's tied into gambling, which is also illegal.

Janet, double check Harris Teeter. It was one of the stores listed on Talenti's website as carrying their product. If they don't have it, ask them if they will try stocking it. Sometimes grocers will do that but they won't stock it long, if it doesn't sell.

You could look at the others listed; there were some I'd never heard of that may be common in your area but not ours.
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99. ColoradoKat
1:33 AM GMT on September 07, 2012
I hate dog fighting and all that it entails.
Our TV did an in depth story about it a few
years ago, and the people who participate in
that "sport" (NOT!!!!) are a special kind of
rotten. The things they do to animals is
way beyond sickening. That is why I cringe
every time I hear Michael Vick's name during
football season. I refuse to watch any game
he is in, even if they play the Broncos. I am
sure this does not hurt him at is the
Gee..I think you are right..this calls for more
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98. Proserpina
11:19 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
Hi Janetlee! If ice cream were an item I could mail to you, I would. We do live in an area with quite a variety of grocery stores, from gourmet to the common items. Of course we have to do a little driving to go to the more 'exotic' ones, but now and then we make the effort.

I think that I need to make snow cones this winter, I'll ask for your help since I've never made snow cones.

The first few years of our marriage we lived in Upstate NY, and I did find out what it is like not to have a choice of any kind of stores! Not for food, not for clothing,.... One movie theater, one of everything. Quite a change from our Boston area life!

You must have enjoyed all of those butterflies! Seven Monarchs! Wow! I have only seen one at a time and only on certain years. I am on the lookout for them right now as they pass through during the migration.

I am currently reading "The Breath of God" by Jeffrey Small, it is 'a novel of suspense'. So far it has taken place in Birmingham, Alabama and in Punakha Valley, Bhutan. The setting alternates with each chapter. The first few chapters are interesting, I assume that the rest will also be interesting.
I have never read Tana French, I might give her a try after I finish reading all of the books that are gathering dust while sitting in my closet.
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97. Proserpina
11:00 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
Guess what Bug and Kat? I just ate Talenti Tahitian Vanilla Gelato. I'll worry about the hips tomorrow, today I am enjoying the Gelato! There!

Bug, we do have a problem with rabid animals in the area. Often there are warnings on our news and newspapers, so I am always on the lookout (now and then we see foxes in our backyard). Of course we have lots of squirrels and they do worry me, especially because of Koko.

I definitely am staying away from the Lake! I used to visit my Oriental Art teacher at her condo which looked out on the lake. Very pretty. My teacher has passed away and so have not been up to that area recently, my shopping takes me the opposite direction.

We have another nasty 'event' in Alexandria. Police have found an apartment or house where dogs were bred for dog fighting. All kinds of nasty equipment was found, including a torture contraption to force female dogs to be bred. They found dogs (ferocious looking but living creatures)with obvious dog fights scars. I feel sick at my stomach with so much cruelty in this darn world! We fight humans and we force animals to fight each other to death! The owner has a long criminal record, I sure do hope they get this criminal off the streets and in jail where he belongs.

I wasn't going to bring up this dog horror story, but somehow I associate the rabid beaver with the poor excuse of a rabid human being!

This is stressful, I need more gelato to distress! (I am not making light of the above events, I really do need to get these stories out of my mind.)
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96. janetlee
10:55 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
I thought of you this afternoon while being out with Molly. there were 7 Monarchs and several yellow butterflies on our rose of sharon tree. We've never had so many monarchs as this year.

none of our food stores carry many of the high end ice creams. We have one Harris Tetter, several Food Lions a couple of Piggley Wiggleys and of course A Walmart. As you can tell we are not very big city here. And like Calpoppy we always make snowcream when we have a good snow, using nice fresh clean snow, milk, sugar & a little vanilla flavoring.

I'm surprised at the rabid beaver.Poor woman! I know any animal can be rabid but it usually racoons in the wild. they always frighten me when they come into our yard and Molly trees them. We had one last year that would hiss at her.

What are you reading? I'm still enjoying Tana French. Its murder mystery, when I first was getting into it I was afraid she was going to be more Stephen King type and I'm not a big fan of his.
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95. palmettobug53
9:49 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
When I bought my Talenti, the checker looked at it, looked at me, and said, "Here's the deal. When you get that stuff home, put some of it in a bowl and put the rest in the freezer. DO NOT sit down with the container and a spoon - you'll hate yourself."

We are doomed. We are doomed for sure.

Good Lord! A rabid beaver? I know any animal can get rabies but I've never heard of a rabid beaver. That poor woman.

Pros, give that lake a wide berth!

I've been lucky enough, so far, to not have had any encounters with a rabid animal. Animal lover that I am, I still exercise caution with wild animals or strange cats and dogs. We periodically read in the paper of a rabid animal being found locally but it's never been close to our house.
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94. ColoradoKat
8:24 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
Oh, and I did finally get to the store...Double
Dark Chocolate, Sea Salt Caramel and Caramel Cookie
Crunch. Still searching for the Coconut and
the Pistachio, but they are hiding from me.:-(
These three will last me quite a while, so I
can't complain.
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93. ColoradoKat
8:04 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
Quoting shoreacres:
When I bought my Talenti, the checker looked at it, looked at me, and said, "Here's the deal. When you get that stuff home, put some of it in a bowl and put the rest in the freezer. DO NOT sit down with the container and a spoon - you'll hate yourself."

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92. Proserpina
7:49 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
Hello Bug, calpoppy, Ylee, Shore. We have had an ugly day for the most part. Hubby went to play golf but decided that it was too uncomfortable to so so and came back home. He'll play tomorrow. I have been painting, reading, and basically have managed to do a lot of nothing.

, yes, it is quite a story about the lady who was attacked by a beaver at Lake Barcroft. It is a private lake, two to three miles from my home. The poor woman has lived into her 80s, has been active and working up to now, but is done in by a rabid beaver. Not nice! Good thing that there was help nearby. I am always on the lookout for crazy acting wildlife in my backyard. While I have not come across a really crazy acting animal at this house, years ago (at our other house) I came face to face with a rabid/foam spewing raccoon. He stood on our fence looking really scary and menacing. The proper authorities were called and they did come right away to take away and dispose of the animal.

Wishing you all a very nice evening.
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91. shoreacres
5:20 PM GMT on September 06, 2012
When I bought my Talenti, the checker looked at it, looked at me, and said, "Here's the deal. When you get that stuff home, put some of it in a bowl and put the rest in the freezer. DO NOT sit down with the container and a spoon - you'll hate yourself."

And, as a public service announcement - stay out of Lake Barcroft!

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90. Ylee
9:26 AM GMT on September 06, 2012
Who the heck eats a half a cup of ice cream? for me, that pint of gelato would be one serving! :)

(Trying to become 6x6!) :)
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89. palmettobug53
4:21 PM GMT on September 05, 2012
Hi, Pros.

Hope you're having a lovely day.

I've been dwelling on the fact that those cups of gelato have four servings. Too bad one serving is a measured half a cup, not half of the cup it comes in.
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88. calpoppy
1:34 AM GMT on September 05, 2012
What great stores you all have that have such a wide variety of ice creams and gelato. Not here, just plain old ice cream. I use to make it, but boy it can get addicting. And since I don't want to buy a bigger size pant, I quit!!!

While living in the mountains, when it snowed we would make snow ice cream Just snow and some kind of syrup. It was delicious.

Have a good week Pros!
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87. palmettobug53
1:32 AM GMT on September 05, 2012
I'll get there, Pros. I was just in a hurry today, grabbed what I went for and just didn't pass by the ice cream section. I was in Food Lion and that isn't one of the stores listed on the Talenti website as carrying their product. Bi-Lo and Publix are and both are just down the road.

I'm especially intrigued with the Blood Orange sorbetto. With my luck, though, neither Bi-Lo or Publix will have that one.

As you roll your cursor over each container on their site, it shows the label with the calorie content. They range from 170 to 230 calories per serving.

Sadly, one serving is only half a cup. Just a few bites!
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86. Proserpina
11:31 PM GMT on September 04, 2012
Hi, I have now tasted the Sea Salt Caramel, it is out of this world delicious!

Shore, yes, I have the information on the 'hockey pokey'. I have not included it because there is something about it that just doesn't feel right. I'll have to revisit that info..... I do love the dance the Hockey Pokey, I used to dance it whenever the opportunity arose. Usually at weddings!

, you need to give in to Talenti at least once. Just to see the difference. We tried to buy the Sorbets also but Wageman did not have any! I have no idea if they ran out or if they do not carry it. My hubby adores lemon sorbets. Love this comment "
We're all gonna be little 5X5 balls, if we keep this up!" Actually I am already a 5x5!

Hi Janetlee, I used to make a cantaloupe soup for company, in the summer only. Now I am too lazy to prepare too many fancy culinary items. Were you able to find Madonna del Piatto? If not, it is on the right hand-side of this blog, under recommended links. I have not checked it lately, I assume that it still takes you to the site.

the macaroni and blue cheese sounds interesting. I bet it is good. I have eaten pasta dishes with Gorgonzola sauce and that's very good. In my opinion Blue Cheese and Gorgonzola are similar in taste. I particularly like Gnocchi with the Gorgonzola sauce.

Sandi like your sense of humor!"Do you mean 2x2 inches or even feet! lol" Feet of course! Yes, I slept well last night, Benadryl helps.

An aside: I did not watch the GOP convention and I will not watch the Dem's convention. I am sick of politics!

Have a wonderful evening everyone.
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85. palmettobug53
10:48 PM GMT on September 04, 2012

I just went to Talenti's website. I'm drooling.

Talenti gelato e sorbetto

The Blood Orange, Lisbon Lemon and Roman Raspberry are the sorbettos. Milk free and fat free.
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84. palmettobug53
10:41 PM GMT on September 04, 2012
I escaped from the grocer this afternoon after work with just a loaf of bread, some poulots and some horseradish mustard.

The ice cream and gelato didn't get me!
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83. sandiquiz
10:22 PM GMT on September 04, 2012
I should be in bed, dreaming of ice cream, but had to switch on the computer to fire up the printer, so came on to WU whilst the items printed.

Linda, as kids we called the ice cream man who came round with his cart the "okey" man.

I found this article on it.

Good night All :)
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82. shoreacres
10:02 PM GMT on September 04, 2012
Never mind why - I had to make a trip to google to find out a bit about the dance called the Hokey Pokey. Lookie what I found tucked into the middle of the article:

Before the invention of ice cream cones, ice cream was often sold wrapped in waxed paper and known as a hokey-pokey (possibly a corruption of the Italian ecco un poco - "here is a little"). An Italian ice cream street vendor was called a hokey-pokey man."

It's a great story - could it be true?
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81. janetlee
5:47 PM GMT on September 04, 2012
I hope you are sitting somewhere enjoying a very nice bowl of ice cream. I am not surprised to hear someone makes cantelope ice cream. I like the have a half melon filled with vanilla on occasion. We are getting rain once again today. For now the sun is back out but dark clouds are still hovering nearby.

I'm off to investigate your cousins B&B site.

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