April 2013: Earth's 13th warmest April; 92E a threat to Mexico and Guatemala

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:15 PM GMT on May 27, 2013

April 2013 was the globe's 13th warmest April since records began in 1880, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). NASA also rated it the 13th warmest April on record. The year-to-date period of January - April has been the 8th warmest such period on record. April 2013 global land temperatures were the 17th warmest on record, and global ocean temperatures were the 7th warmest on record. April 2013 was the 338th consecutive month with global temperatures warmer than the 20th century average. Global satellite-measured temperatures in April 2013 for the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere were 13th or 11th warmest in the 35-year record, according to Remote Sensing Systems and the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH), respectively. The Northern Hemisphere snow cover extent during April 2013 was the 9th largest in the 47-year period of record, and the first above-average April snow cover since 2003. Wunderground's weather historian, Christopher C. Burt, has a comprehensive post on the notable weather events of April 2013 in his April 2013 Global Weather Extremes Summary. He notes that The U.K. had its coldest April since 1989, and a storm felled the Pontfadog Oak, said by some to be Britain’s oldest tree. The historic tree dated back to at least 802 A.D., and was said to have served as a rallying point for a Welsh prince’s army that defeated England’s King Henry II in 1157 A.D.


Figure 1. Departure of temperature from average for April 2013, the 13th warmest April for the globe since record keeping began in 1880. Temperatures were much warmer than average across much of Mexico, the coastal regions of South America, most of Argentina, southern Europe, parts of coastal Africa, far eastern Europe, and western Australia. Record warm temperatures were observed across the southern tip of South America, far western Brazil, the southern Philippines, and some locales in far eastern Russia. It was much cooler than average across a swath of central North America, central Paraguay, part of northwestern Canada, and much of Alaska, where the southeastern portion of Alaska had record cold April temperatures. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) .

One billion-dollar disaster in April: floods in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Torrential rainfall fell across parts of Argentina’s city and province of Buenos Aires between the 2nd and 4th, triggering flash flooding that killed at least 70 and did $1.3 billion in damage, making it the deadliest and most damaging weather disaster world-wide in April. In the city of Buenos Aires, seven hours of heavy rains flooded subways and submerged low-lying neighborhoods. Hardest-hit was the La Plata region, where 400 millimeters (15.74 inches) of rain fell in just two hours. The total was more than the city had ever recorded during an entire month of April. Argentina’s largest refinery, Ensenada, also sustained damage from the floods, plus a fire.

The Argentinian flood in April brought the 2013 tally of billion-dollar weather disasters to six, according to the April 2013 Catastrophe Report from insurance broker AON Benfield. The six billion-dollar weather disasters through April 2013:

1) Drought in Central and Eastern China, 1/1 - 4/30, $4.2 billion
2) Flooding in Indonesia, 1/20 - 1/27, $3.31 billion
3) Flooding in Australia, 1/21 - 1/30, $2.5 billion
4) Winter weather in Europe, 3/12 - 3/31, $1.8 billion
5) Flooding in Argentina, 4/2 - 4/4, $1.3 billion
6) Severe weather in the Midwest U.S., 3/18 - 3/20, $1 billion

Preliminary damage estimates of $2 billion from the May 20, 2013 tornado in Moore, Oklahoma tornado will likely put that disaster on the list for May.


Figure 2. Severe flooding in Buenos Aires, Argentina, on April, 3, 2013 submerged half the city in waters up to 2 meters (6.6') deep. Image credit: focolare.org.

Neutral El Niño conditions continue in the equatorial Pacific
For the 13th month in row, neutral El Niño conditions existed in the equatorial Pacific during April 2013. NOAA's Climate Prediction Center (CPC) expects neutral El Niño conditions to last through summer. The large majority of the El Niño models predict neutral conditions will last through the fall of 2013. Temperatures in the equatorial Eastern Pacific need to be 0.5°C below average or cooler for three consecutive for a La Niña episode to be declared; sea surface temperatures were 0.4°C below average as of May 20, and have been +0.1 to -0.4°C from average since April 1, 2013.

Arctic sea ice falls to 7th lowest April extent on record
Arctic sea ice extent during April reached its seventh lowest extent in the 35-year satellite record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC). This was the 12th consecutive April and 143rd consecutive month with below-average Arctic sea ice extent. The last ten years (2004 to 2013) have seen seven of the ten lowest April extents in the satellite record.


Figure 3. Latest satellite image of Invest 92E.

Eastern Pacific tropical disturbance bringing heavy rains to Mexico and Guatemala
Invest 92E in the Eastern Pacific, centered about 100 miles southwest of the Mexico/Guatemala border, will bring very heavy rains capable of causing dangerous flash floods and mudslides to coastal Guatemala and Mexico's Bay of Tehuantepec over the next three days. Radar out of El Mozotal, Mexico shows that heavy rains have already pushed ashore along the Mexico/Guatemala border, and satellite loops show an impressive and expanding area of heavy thunderstorms associated with 92E, with some spiral bands beginning to develop on the storm's south side. In their 5 am PDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 92E a 60% of developing into a tropical cyclone by Wednesday. I put these odds higher, at 80%. The 0Z Monday runs of the GFS and ECMWF both predict that 92E could develop into a tropical depression by Tuesday. With wind shear a low 5 -10 knots and ocean temperatures a very warm 30°C, conditions are ripe for further development, and I expect 92E will be a tropical depression or tropical storm when it makes landfall on Wednesday along the Mexican coast in the Bay of Tehuantepec.

In the Atlantic, the models are depicting high wind shear through June 1 over the majority of the regions we typically see May tropical cyclone development--the Caribbean, Gulf of Mexico, and Bahamas. The GFS and ECMWF models are showing a decrease in wind shear over the Western Caribbean after June 1, which would argue for an increased chance of tropical storm development then (though wind shear forecasts more than 7 days in advance are highly unreliable.)


Figure 4. Severe weather outlook for Monday, May 28, calls for a "Moderate Risk" of severe weather over portions of Kansas and Nebraska. You can follow this week's severe weather outbreak from our Severe Weather page.

Multi-day severe weather outbreak in the Midwest begins today
The latest forecasts from NOAA's Storm Prediction Center call for an active severe weather period Monday though Wednesday in the Midwest, with a "Moderate Risk" of severe weather today (Monday) over portions of Northern Kansas and Southern Nebraska. The severe weather outbreak will continue on Tuesday and Wednesday, though SPC is only highlighting a "Slight Risk" of severe weather on those days at present.

Have a great Memorial Day, everyone!

Jeff Masters

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BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
TORNADO WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WT 231
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
450 PM CDT MON MAY 27 2013

TORNADO WATCH 231 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1200 AM CDT FOR THE
FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

KSC027-029-039-041-051-053-061-065-089-105-117-123 -137-141-143-
147-149-157-161-163-167-169-179-183-195-201-280500 -
/O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0231.130527T2150Z-130528T0500Z/

KS
. KANSAS COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

CLAY CLOUD DECATUR
DICKINSON ELLIS ELLSWORTH
GEARY GRAHAM JEWELL
LINCOLN MARSHALL MITCHELL
NORTON OSBORNE OTTAWA
PHILLIPS POTTAWATOMIE REPUBLIC
RILEY ROOKS RUSSELL
SALINE SHERIDAN SMITH
TREGO WASHINGTON


NEC001-019-035-047-059-061-065-067-073-079-081-083 -095-099-109-
129-137-145-151-159-169-181-185-280500-
/O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0231.130527T2150Z-130528T0500Z/

NE
. NEBRASKA COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

ADAMS BUFFALO CLAY
DAWSON FILLMORE FRANKLIN
FURNAS GAGE GOSPER
HALL HAMILTON HARLAN
JEFFERSON KEARNEY LANCASTER
NUCKOLLS PHELPS RED WILLOW
SALINE SEWARD THAYER
WEBSTER YORK


ATTN...WFO...TOP...GID...OAX...GLD...DDC...ICT...
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Quoting aspectre:
Non sequiter but while NASA is still fantasizing about its "Mission to Mars",
OrbitalSciences has already successfully launched a rocket from MARS.



LOL
Ok, you got me . . . the (MARS) Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport and not the planet.
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Quoting Hurricane1216:
Prepare for a probable renumber for 92E soon. Buoys indicative of circulation; 30 kt winds from the buoy east of the center.





I personally guarantee the renumber won't come today unless the NHC has lost their wits. 30 kt wind speed isn't enough to force them into labeling something that otherwise was too disorganized and the circulation, while evident, is too broad with too few thunderstorms near it.

The only reason the NHC could jump the gun on this would be to get residents of Mexico and Guatemala to start preparing for what could be a rainy couple of days.
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Quoting aspectre:
Non sequiter but while NASA is still fantasizing about its "Mission to Mars",
OrbitalSciences has already successfully launched a rocket from MARS.
my wife just started her post-doc at JPL ^_^ already been getting her reports on how much the whole organization intently focuses on that mission.. to the point of detriment per her work :P
oh well, good luck NASA!!
added: i lost my beard an my happy MN home in the move.. can call me Altadena Mike now..
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18z GFS at 45 hours:

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Significant tornado parameter for 2z:



I don't think I've ever seen it that high before.
Very impressive. Should get some great footage if any monsters are able to form. Nice and flat for miles in these areas. No trees either for the most part.
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Non sequiter but while NASA is still fantasizing about its "Mission to Mars",
OrbitalSciences has already successfully launched a rocket from MARS.
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Quoting Hurricane1216:
Prepare for a probable renumber for 92E soon. Buoys indicative of circulation; 30 kt winds from the buoy east of the center.




Latest ATCF update has 92E as a 1007mb low with 30kt winds. Probably will become a TD in the next day.

EP, 92, 2013052718, , BEST, 0, 136N, 956W, 30, 1007, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 180, 70, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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Quoting Civicane49:
Blog update on the tropics.

92E nearly a tropical depression; possible development over Caribbean in June


Might as well jump! Go heaa-aad, jump!

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92E

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Severe weather Wednesday is going to be very widespread. This is from my local NWS office, all the way in eastern MA.

*/WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT...

FOR THE MORNING...INSTABILITY HARD TO COME BY WITH ABSENCE OF AN
ELEVATED MIXED-LAYER AND LACK OF SURFACE DESTABILIZATION. SHEAR IS
IMPRESSIVE AT ALL LEVELS WITH SIGNIFICANT 0-1/0-3 KM HELICITY ALONG
THE LIFTING WARM FRONT THROUGH THE REGION. CLIMATOLOGICALLY...THIS
IS NOT A FAVORABLE TIME OF DAY FOR TORNADO DEVELOPMENT. BUT WITH
WEAK ELEVATED INSTABILITY AND MODEST SHEAR...ROTATING UPDRAFTS ARE
CERTAINLY PLAUSIBLE YIELDING A SMALL HAIL THREAT. BUT CONFIDENCE
REMAINS LOW AND SO WILL NOT MENTION IN THE FORECAST. A STABLE
BOUNDARY BOUNDARY LAYER /DECOUPLED/ WILL LIKELY LIMIT THE DAMAGING
WIND THREAT.

ATTENTION TURNS TO THE AFTERNOON PERIOD. MUCH DEPENDS ON THE
PROPAGATION OF THE WARM FRONT NORTH AND EAST WITH ATTENDANT CLOUD
COVER. SHOULD THE SUN BUST OUT...A CONVECTIVE THREAT IS CERTAINLY
PLAUSIBLE WITH CAPE VALUES AROUND 1-2K J/KG OF CAPE...WITH
CONTINUED MODEST SHEAR. WHILE 0-1/0-3 KM HELICITIES WEAKEN...0-6
KM BULK SHEAR VALUES REMAIN IMPRESSIVE. THE WEAKENED HELICITY IS
CONSEQUENTIAL OF SOUTHWEST SURFACE WINDS PARENT WITH NORTHWESTLY
FLOW ALOFT. THE UNIDIRECTIONAL HODOGRAPH PROFILE SIGNIFIES LINE-
ECHO WAVE PATTERNS AND MULTI-CELLULAR STRUCTURES. CAN NOT RULE OUT
POTENTIAL BOWING SEGMENTS. WARMING OF THE ATMOSPHERIC COLUMN WILL
PUSH FREEZING LEVELS HIGHER LESSENING THE HAIL THREAT.

WILL MENTION GUSTY WINDS AND SMALL HAIL WITH THUNDERSTORMS IN THE
FORECAST. LOW CONFIDENCE OF A TORNADO THREAT...BUT IF WINDS AT THE
SURFACE BECOME MORE EASTERLY...A BRIEF SPIN-UP IS NOT OUT OF THE
QUESTION.
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23 weathermanwannabe: One year ago today; Beryl was heading towards the SE Atlantic coast fueled in part by the passage over the warm Gulf Stream... How time and seasons fly

2012 also already had two NamedStorms in the EastPacific, including Cat.3 Bud. This season is a bust*

* WU's gettin' way too used to havin' early TropicalCyclones within big HurricaneSeasons
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Unless that storm tightens up it's circulation rapidly I don't see a hurricane coming from that.Look how broad it is.I'm waiting for that supposed "storm" to form in the Atlantic.
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245. VR46L
Quoting bigwes6844:
yeah im hoping ghost storm!


Can't blame ya there I wouldn't want a TS showing up at my door .. Guess I am lucky I get to watch the things develop without fear of them coming for me . But I still worry for the folk in the line of fire ..
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Prepare for a probable renumber for 92E soon. Buoys indicative of circulation; 30 kt winds from the buoy east of the center.



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Quoting VR46L:


I think the GFS has sent it everywhere east of NOLA ... It will be a few days before they settle on a track yet . after all its not to develop into anything really for another 10 days .
yeah im hoping ghost storm!
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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0820
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0323 PM CDT MON MAY 27 2013

AREAS AFFECTED...PART OF NWRN KS INTO NORTH CENTRAL KS AND SOUTH
CENTRAL NEB

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY

VALID 272023Z - 272130Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENT

SUMMARY...TSTMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER NORTH CENTRAL KS AND
SOUTH CENTRAL NEB IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS...WITH THE STRONGER STORMS
BECOMING CAPABLE OF POSING A TORNADO THREAT...AND PRODUCING VERY
LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS. A TORNADO WATCH WILL BE COORDINATED
DURING THE NEXT HOUR OR TWO WITH WFO/S ACROSS NWRN-NORTH CENTRAL
KS/SOUTH CENTRAL NEB.

DISCUSSION...20Z SURFACE ANALYSIS INDICATED AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE
REMAINS CENTERED OVER WEST CENTRAL KS /JUST S OF KHLC/...WITH ELY
WINDS ON THE NRN PERIPHERY OF THIS LOW HAVING INCREASED OVER NORTH
CENTRAL KS. THIS LATTER FACTOR IS FAVORING A STRENGTHENING OF LOW
LEVEL CONVERGENCE INVOF THE WRN EXTENT OF A CONVECTIVE OUTFLOW
BOUNDARY FROM THE EARLIER LOWER MO VALLEY MCS...WITH THE STRONGEST
CONVERGENCE LOCATED NEAR AND N OF I-70 BETWEEN COLBY AND HAYS KS.
AN ENHANCED CU FIELD WAS LOCATED IN THIS AREA AND EXTENDED INTO
SOUTH CENTRAL NEB...WHERE INITIAL TSTM DEVELOPMENT WILL BE MOST
PROBABLE.

IN ADDITION TO LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE...AN INCREASE IN FORCING FOR
ASCENT IS EXPECTED TO SPREAD INTO KS THE NEXT FEW HOURS AS THE EXIT
REGION OF A 40-50 KT SWLY MIDLEVEL JET EMERGES NEWD INTO THE
WRN/CENTRAL KS. EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR IS ALREADY SUFFICIENT FOR
SUPERCELLS...ONCE STORMS DEVELOP...WHILE THE INCREASED ELY SURFACE
WINDS HAVE SUPPORTED AN INCREASE IN LOW LEVEL SHEAR /EFFECTIVE SRH
ACROSS THE DISCUSSION AREA IS 200-300 M2 PER S2/ FAVORING A TORNADO
POTENTIAL.

..PETERS/MEAD.. 05/27/2013


ATTN...WFO...TOP...ICT...GID...DDC...GLD...

LAT...LON 39000088 39710101 40220014 40479924 40299788 39679748
38949790 38919832 38829900 39059996 39000088
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Still got a stout cap across the Moderate risk area. Expect "explosive thunderstorm development" when it breaks.

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Storms will fire sooner than later.
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Quoting barbamz:
Pat (or someone else), please post a radar animation of those regions which are threatened by tornados right now. I always get lost to figure out the locations in your huge continent ;-)
Is it this one?


O.K. for myself, lol
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Blog update on the tropics.

92E nearly a tropical depression; possible development over Caribbean in June
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92e has a very huge circulation area (hundreds of miles) and having a tough time trying to pull it all together.....A tropical depression is imminent based on the loops but not too much time after that to get better organized.
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Quoting Patrap:
Rolling info on a Tornado that is not reported anywhere is not info.

It's rumor.




Three confirmed reports

2005 5 NW KIMBALL KIMBALL NE 4128 10373 SEVERAL REPORTS RELAYED BY KIMBALL WARNING POINT AS WELL. (CYS)
2015 11 N KIMBALL BANNER NE 4139 10366 SPOTTER REPORTS TWO TORNADOES ON THE GROUND. (CYS)
2025 6 NW DIX KIMBALL NE 4130 10357 RELAYED VIA KIMBALL WARNING POINT. DEPUTY HAS VISUAL ON TORNADO. (CYS)
2028 12 NW POTTER KIMBALL NE 4134 10348 TORNADO HAS NOW LIFTED.
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92E

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230. beell
Quoting MississippiWx:
This is about as close as a system can get to forming in the Atlantic basin without actually being there. The proximity of 92E alone tells me that conditions are gradually becoming favorable for tropical development in the Western Caribbean and Southern Gulf of Mexico. I'm gaining more confidence in a Western Caribbean tropical system each day.



But do we get a trough to pull it out or does the ridge prevail?

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Quoting hurricanes2018:
ok


#198 that GFDL cyclogenesis and track is identical to Hermine! Please let it be, Lord!

(drought-stricken centex)
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Quoting Patrap:
Rolling info on a Tornado that is not reported anywhere is not info.

It's rumor.

AccuWeather.com@breakingweather24 s
A tornado is reported to be 6 miles NW of Dix, Neb. Take cover if your are in the area.


The warning text specifically said a tornado had been confirmed.
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POLAR IR
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<-- Is corrected

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Quoting belizeit:
Belize is also experiencing heavy rains from 92E 3 inches have fallen so far and more is on the way . The good things its the first rains of the season and the ground is taking it all as of now
Yeah.Yesterday I was complaining for rain and I am finally getting it even though is not the amount I want is a start.92E really is a big and fat invest.
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223. wxmod
Quoting Birthmark:

Fair enough. Here are photos of the same area for 2013 Day144 and 2012Day143.

I'm not seeing any more sign of disintegration than was present last year.

There was remarkable fracturing in the Arctic in late February and into March, but that was well away from the Central Arctic Basin.

The melting this year has been a bit slow compared to recent years, but it's very early in the melt season so I don't read much into that. It's quite likely that melting will rapidly accelerate in June.

As always, though, weather is a very big player.


The north pole is in the lower right in your photos. Please take a careful look near that. There are 4 satellite photos that touch the north pole. I'm glad you are taking an interest in looking. I'm not trying to pull wool over your eyes. There really are a lot more cracks in the north pole ice this year. I am very concerned about it.
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Quoting Luisport:
because i thought it was a usefull info... but ok i won't post more.


people post from a variety of sources here . . . NWS, Fox News, intellicast . . . you can post from wherever you want.
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221. VR46L
Quoting bigwes6844:
still kinda early but it seems to be getting a nice rep on the ecmwf and gfs somewhat. so I guess well hopefully know by later this week. Plus it gets kinda close to my area too on some of the models


I think the GFS has sent it everywhere east of NOLA ... It will be a few days before they settle on a track yet . after all its not to develop into anything really for another 10 days .
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92E Short Floater - Visible Imagery Loop

zoom active
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Quoting yonzabam:


That's quite unbelievable for that latitude in May. I'm much further south, in Scotland, and we're lucky to get a day or two of 80+ temperatures in July/August. We haven't had any the last two summers.


I noticed that the Almanach of Tromsø said sunrise at 1:13 am and sunset at 1:00 am. The sun is shining almost non-stop and if there is not cloud cover, the temperatures can rise quite high. In Lapland (Northern Finland, similar latitude) you get regularly days of 80+ temperatures. It's also quite sheltered, whereas the UK tends to get loads of frontal lows which bring rain and cooler air basically any month of the year. If you're lucky, there's a lull for a few weeks in summer and then you may get higher temperatures. I live in Wales and we had two bad summers, too. I hope this summer will be better after the cold spring. Fingers crossed.
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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


That OSCAT is very old from 5:46z early this morning.Look at the time at the bottom in purple.


Okay, that's what confused me then. I was thinking the 20:06 stamp was when it updated. Thanks.
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Wednesday, May 29

Severe thunderstorm and tornado outbreak likely in extreme southeast MT, northeast WY, extreme south ND, SD, NE, extreme northeast CO, KS, west and central OK, south MN, west and north IA, south WI, north IL, north IL, south MI, NY, north OH, north PA, central and south VT, south NH, MA, CT, east TX panhandle, west TX from near Fort Stockton, Midland, Abilene, Wichita Falls.

TOR:CON
CT - 2
IA west, north - 4 to 5
IL north - 2 to 3
IN north - 2
KS west - 3
KS central, east - 7
MA - 2
MI south - 2
MN south - 4
MT extreme southeast - 2
ND extreme south - 3
NE west - 2
NE central, east - 5
NH south - 2
NY - 2
OH north - 2
OK west, central - 5
PA north - 2
SD west - 2
SD central - 3
SD east - 4
TX eastern panhandle - 2 to 3
TX west near Midland, Fort Stockton, Abilene, Wichita Falls - 2 to 3
VT central, south - 2
WI south - 2 to 3
WY northeast - 2
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Quoting MississippiWx:
Odd, but OSCAT shows nothing near the surface where all of 92E's convection is located.



That OSCAT is very old from 5:46z early this morning.Look at the time at the bottom in purple.
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92E RGB

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Quoting JNTenne:
Waiting waiting... (cue Jaws theme)


IS THAT A PINHOLE EYE!?

sorry, couldn't resist...
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Pat (or someone else), please post a radar animation of those regions which are threatened by tornados right now. I always get lost to figure out the locations in your huge continent ;-)
Is it this one?
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Quoting Luisport:
because i thought it was a usefull info... but ok i won't post more.

It's fine. AccuWeather's posts are warnings from the NWS.
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Edit: Scratch that...Old image.
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Quoting Patrap:
Why post in-accuweather here?

We use the NWS.

Alway's.
because i thought it was a usefull info... but ok i won't post more.
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