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Hellacious Great Lakes Windstorm Fells Trees, Knocks Out Power to More than 1 Million

By: Bob Henson 3:57 PM GMT on March 09, 2017

Under brilliant blue skies, an onslaught of high wind swept across the Great Lakes region on Wednesday, causing damage and disruption on par with a major winter storm or a severe thunderstorm complex. About 1 million customers lost power in Michigan alone, and more than 800,000 of those remained without electricity on Thursday morning. More than 100,000 others were affected in parts of Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York. It’s been the largest weather-related outage in the history of DTE Energy, which serves southeast Michigan. Countless huge trees were topped across the region.

Widespread high winds are not uncommon across the Great Lakes in late winter and early spring, as the typical midlatitude storm track edges north toward the region. In this case, the unusually mild winter appears to have stoked the destruction. Most of the affected areas just had their warmest or second-warmest February on record. DTE Energy noted that the ground was softer than usual for this time of year. In addition, the soil was saturated after recent rains in southeast Michigan, said DTE. Trees were thus easier to topple than they otherwise would have been, and these falling trees played a big role in bringing down power lines.


Figure 1. Jackson Fire Department personnel respond to a gas leak after a tree fell on a house in Jackson, Mich., on Wednesday, March 8, 2017. Image credit: J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP.


Figure 2. A Volkswagon owned by Lincoln Russell sits crushed under a tree in the Woodbridge neighborhood of Detroit, Wednesday, March 8, 2017, as strong winds moved through. Image credit: David Guralnick/Detroit News via AP.

Peak wind gusts across the Great Lakes region on Wednesday included:

Chicago, IL (O’Hare): 58 mph
Gary, IN: 63 mph
Saginaw, MI: 68 mph
Detroit Metro Airport: 68 mph
Grand Rapids, MI: 64 mph
Toledo, OH: 62 mph
Cleveland, OH: 61 mph
Youngstown, OH: 70 mph
Batavia, NY (5 miles east): 76 mph
Rochester, NY: 81 mph

The 81-mph gust in Rochester was the city’s second strongest on record, beaten only by the 89-mph gust recorded during a major thunderstorm/derecho event on Labor Day (Sept. 6), 1998.

Jeff Masters, who lives just northwest of Detroit, relayed this first-hand report through a marginal cell-phone connection: “Wednesday's wind storm was the most extreme I've ever observed in my 50 years living in Michigan, with multiple hours of tropical storm-force sustained winds, and gusts approaching hurricane force. Most extraordinary were the sustained winds of 51 mph recorded in Grand Rapids, which brought down power lines that completely blocked I-96. I had to clear away multiple downed trees on my street to get out of my neighborhood, and it was an unnerving experience to saw at the downed trees while looking up at the swaying trees above, wondering which ones were ready to come down as violent 60+ mph gusts tore through.”

Weather-related power outages are becoming more frequent
A 2014 study by Climate Central found that major U.S. power outages (those affecting more than 50,000 customers) increased tenfold between 1984 and 2012. Even after adjusting for improvements in outage reporting, weather-related outages increased dramatically across the period. At the same time, there was no trend in the number of outages unrelated to weather (see Figure 3 below). The study found that Michigan experienced 71 major weather-related outages from 2003 to 2012—the most recorded in any state—with Ohio placing third and Pennsylvania fourth.

“Climate change is a threat multiplier,” the report noted. Even if there is no direct link between climate change and the type of midlatitude storm that drove Wednesday’s high winds, the warm soils noted above appear to have facilitated the damage to trees and power lines. And as we discussed in our post on Wednesday, there is strong evidence that late-winter U.S. warmth over recent decades is an outgrowth of human-induced climate change.

Figure 3. Annual number of reported weather-related and non-weather related power outages in the U.S., 1984-2012. Image credit: Fig. 2, “Blackout: Extreme Weather, Climate Change and Power Outages,” Alyson Kenward, PhD, and Urooj Raja, Climate Central, 2014.

Fires, tornadoes, and blowdowns: A multi-day siege of wind-driven mayhem
The massive Great Lakes windstorm of Wednesday capped off several days of wind-related threats that took on a variety of forms. The culprit behind the whole event was a massive upper-level trough and associated surface low that barreled northeast from the northern Great Plains into central Canada, with multiple fronts pinwheeling around its south side. The surface pressure fell to 980.4 millibars in Fargo, North Dakota, on Monday, just a whisker above Fargo’s all-time March record low of 979.3 mb.

Along the south side of this system, a ribbon of very strong west to southwest winds extended through the lowest several miles of the atmosphere. These winds were able to reach the surface easily because of strong downward forcing and warm low-level temperatures that facilitated mixing through the depth of the atmosphere.

Figure 4. Winds at 850 mb, about a mile above the surface, were howling at more than 64 knots (74 mph) on Wednesday morning, March 8, 2017, along a ribbon from eastern Iowa to southwest Michigan. These winds mixed down to the surface in frequent strong gusts as a midlatitude storm centered in Canada moved eastward. Image credit: www.tropicaltidbits.com.

Figure 5. Firefighters from across Kansas and Oklahoma battle a wildfire near Protection, Kan., Monday, March 6, 2017. Image credit: Bo Rader/The Wichita Eagle via AP.

At least six people were killed on Monday as wind-driven wildfires raged across the plains of eastern Colorado, western Kansas, northwest Oklahoma, and the Texas Panhandle. In just a few hours, an estimated 1.5 million acres of prairie—almost twice the area of Rhode Island—were scorched. Four deaths were reported in Texas, including three young ranchers who perished trying to save cattle. Another rancher in Colorado lost nearly 200 cattle to a blaze near Haxtun. In Kansas, a motorist died from smoke inhalation, and an Oklahoma woman fighting a blaze with her husband died of a heart attack.

Fires across the Great Plains can represent a notably high fraction of all U.S. land affected by fire in a given year. In 2006, the East Amarillo Complex fire in the Texas Panhandle killed 12 people and burned more than 900,000 acres, more than 40% of that entire year’s U.S. wildland fire acreage.

Figure 6. Ashley Strother, left, hugs her aunt Brenda Johnson among the wreckage of Johnson's house in Oak Grove, Missouri, on Tuesday, March 7, 2017, after an EF3 tornado moved through the area. Image credit; Allison Long /The Kansas City Star via AP.

Just northeast of the fire-stricken zone, a significant outbreak of severe weather unfolded late Monday. NOAA’s Storm Prediction Center received 47 preliminary tornado reports extending from Oklahoma to Minnesota. Fortunately, most of these tornadoes were weak and short-lived. No deaths were reported, but significant damage and 12 injuries occurred in an EF3 tornado that struck Oak Grove, Missouri, just east of Kansas City. 


Further north, two EF1 tornadoes were confirmed in Minnesota, one near Clarks Grove and the other near Zimmerman. These are the earliest tornadoes ever confirmed in Minnesota for any year, beating the previous record of March 18, 1968, by nearly two weeks. Few if any tornadoes have been recorded this early in the year as far north in the U.S. as the Zimmerman tornado, which struck just north of Minneapolis.

We’ll be back with a new post by Friday.

Bob Henson

High Wind Tornado Fire

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

I live in SE Michigan and saw numerous trees down in my surrounding communities. Luckily I did not lose power.

My next door neighbor lost about a quarter of his shingles and multiple pieces of siding were torn off.

As with Dr Masters, I've never in my 32 years felt such sustained winds for such an extended period of time.

In addition 68 school districts were closed or delayed due to power failures in Metro Detroit. Crazy day yesterday.
From CNBC:

EPA chief Scott Pruitt says carbon dioxide is not a primary contributor to global warming

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt said Thursday he does not believe carbon dioxide is a primary contributor to global warming.

"I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there's tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it's a primary contributor to the global warming that we see," he told CNBC's "Squawk Box".

"But we don't know that yet. ... We need to continue the debate and continue the review and the analysis."

Pruitt's view is at odds with the opinion of NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 2.0 degrees Fahrenheit (1.1 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere," NASA and NOAA said in January.

Click here to read more.
Northern California: Before and after 2017 storms January 18, 2014: January 2014

Quoting 2. Xandra:

From CNBC:

EPA chief Scott Pruitt says carbon dioxide is not a primary contributor to global warming

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt said Thursday he does not believe carbon dioxide is a primary contributor to global warming.

"I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there's tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it's a primary contributor to the global warming that we see," he told CNBC's "Squawk Box".

"But we don't know that yet. ... We need to continue the debate and continue the review and the analysis."

Pruitt's view is at odds with the opinion of NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 2.0 degrees Fahrenheit (1.1 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere," NASA and NOAA said in January.

Click here to read more.


The FOX has secured the Hen House and started the oven
Quoting 2. Xandra:

From CNBC:

EPA chief Scott Pruitt says carbon dioxide is not a primary contributor to global warming
Also, overeating and lack of exercise are not primary contributors to obesity.

Oh we are in so much trouble...
Thanks for the in depth explanation of the wind event. I saw some articles on news sites, but they don't do nearly as well. I was hoping you'd have more info especially with Dr. Masters living there. Sorry for the suffering though, I can imagine days without power will not be fun.
Impressively cold next week in the Eastern U.S. I am worried about local vegetation in the DC area which is two weeks advanced. There was severe damage to native species from an April 6 freeze (25F) last year.

Good opportunity for snow Monday night.
Quoting 2. Xandra:

From CNBC:

EPA chief Scott Pruitt says carbon dioxide is not a primary contributor to global warming

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt said Thursday he does not believe carbon dioxide is a primary contributor to global warming.

"I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there's tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it's a primary contributor to the global warming that we see," he told CNBC's "Squawk Box".

"But we don't know that yet. ... We need to continue the debate and continue the review and the analysis."

Pruitt's view is at odds with the opinion of NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 2.0 degrees Fahrenheit (1.1 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere," NASA and NOAA said in January.

Click here to read more.


The Dude: "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Pruitt is a Tool, A Liar, A Seditionist, a Coward...and a traitor to ALL US Citizens.



Thanks for the detailed analysis Dr. as to this recent storm. Will be interesting to see if these type of wind storms in the mid-latitudes in the late Winter become a more frequent event as we start to see shorter winters. Snow storms and blizzards are just as bad but I suspect that the actual snow particles in the air might soften the blow a little bit in terms of some wind resistance. When you have less snow and a powerful low pressure system basically blowing hurricane force gusts, along with instability issues due to warmer air aloft out ahead of the fronts, it is a powerful combination and especially when the jet also contributes to the winds.

Your personal observations also highlight why driving in any high wind/storm conditions is very dangerous when driving near tree lines; many storm and hurricane deaths occur when folks are driving in dangerous wind conditions, and especially with rain softened trees and limbs, and gusts will drop a tree on your car.........We had such a death recently in Georgia and the same thing happened in Tallahassee in the aftermath of Hurricane Kate in 85 when a tree blew over on an elderly woman driving her car. Don't drive out in dangerous wind conditions unless you have too............Watching a vid last evening on the news of a semi being blown over by a wind gust was incredible.
Snow storms and blizzards are just as bad but I suspect that the actual snow particles in the air might soften the blow a little bit in terms of some wind resistance.

...?


Where is the data that supports this?

Thanx
From NHC/NOAA:

Update on National Hurricane Center Products and Services for 2017

New or recent changes to NOAA’s National Hurricane Center (NHC) products include:

1) Storm Surge Watch/Warning becomes operational

[...]

2) Issuance of Watches, Warnings, and Advisories for Potential Tropical Cyclones

[...]

3) Experimental Time of Arrival of Tropical-Storm-Force Winds Graphic



[...]

4) Update to tropical cyclone advisory graphical products

[...]

5) Annual update to the track forecast error cone

[...]

6) Changes to the National TCV

[...]

6) Other items of interest for 2017

[...]
Quoting 10. Patrap:

Snow storms and blizzards are just as bad but I suspect that the actual snow particles in the air might soften the blow a little bit in terms of some wind resistance.

...?


Where is the data that supports this?

Thanx


A non-educated amateur guess...............Thanks.
Wow, this weather in the US is really weird! Sorry to hear about the loss of life and the damage. Thanks to our Doc for the mobile report and Bob for the whole new entry!

This is weird, too:
House Committee passes two EPA science bills
The Hill, by Devin Henry - 03/09/17 11:17 AM EST
The House Science Committee on Thursday approved two bills to reform how the Environmental Protection Agency conducts scientific research.
The committee, led by Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas), approved a bill requiring the EPA to publicly release scientific research it uses to write regulations.
Smith’s bill is similar to legislation introduced and passed by the House in each of the last two Congresses. He said the legislation would end the EPA’s use of “secret” science and “ensure sound science is the basis for EPA decisions and regulatory actions.” ...

More see link above.
We are warming faster now than anytime in the past 800,000 years. We are losing species at a rate 1000 times faster than any time in the geo paleo record as well. Human thought has caused all of this. When you add 400,000 tonnes of CO2 into the biosphere every hour, did you not think it would have a effect on the climate. It is the driver of climate today as the Human induced Warming form burning fossil fuels is warming us at a rate 170 times faster than the natural forcing's.

Let dat sink i a spell.

Semper Fi'
Quoting 12. weathermanwannabe:



A non-educated amateur guess...............Thanks.


Thats what we thought.

Quoting 11. Xandra:

From NHC/NOAA:

Update on National Hurricane Center Products and Services for 2017

New or recent changes to NOAA’s National Hurricane Center (NHC) products include:

1) Storm Surge Watch/Warning becomes operational

[...]

2) Issuance of Watches, Warnings, and Advisories for Potential Tropical Cyclones

[...]

3) Experimental Time of Arrival of Tropical-Storm-Force Winds Graphic



[...]

4) Update to tropical cyclone advisory graphical products

[...]

5) Annual update to the track forecast error cone

[...]

6) Changes to the National TCV

[...]

6) Other items of interest for 2017

[...]


I'm gonna go wit, "the avocado of doom".

Quoting 12. weathermanwannabe:



A non-educated amateur guess...............Thanks.


Your wording of "I suspect" should have clarified your meaning. "I suspect" mean I guess.
The Dude: Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not "Mr. Lebowski". You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

Anytime breaux, but remember the werd's you state today, will be the werds archived tomorrow.

Semper Fi'

Enawo still producing flooding rains.

Quoting 4. Patrap:



The FOX has secured the Hen House and started the oven

That's weird.It says at the top that there are 22 comments but I can only see 11.
Thanks for all of your posts wanna. One of the few reasons I still pop in here to see what is going on. Thanks for staying on topic and being a class act.

Glorious day in Florence, SC. Upper 70's expected under bright sun.
The lastest on the aftermath of Enawo:

Cyclone Enawo kills 6 in Madagascar
Source: Xinhua | 2017-03-10 00:25:16
ANTANANARIVO, March 9 (Xinhua) -- Cyclone Enawo has killed six people and displaced 12,321 others in Madagascar since it hit the northern coast on Tuesday, said a government office Thursday.
Some 305 houses were flooded throughout the Madagascar, according to provisional data published by the national office of risk and disaster management (BNGRC).
Analanjirofo, the eastern region of the country, was the most affected with more than 7,000 people removed from their houses. ..

UPDATE 1-Madagascar starts evacuating people displaced by Cyclone Enawo
Thu Mar 9, 2017 4:41pm GMT
Jeff Masters, who lives just northwest of Detroit, relayed this first-hand report through a marginal cell-phone connection: “Wednesday's wind storm was the most extreme I've ever observed in my 50 years living in Michigan, with multiple hours of tropical storm-force sustained winds, and gusts approaching hurricane force. Most extraordinary were the sustained winds of 51 mph recorded in Grand Rapids, which brought down power lines that completely blocked I-96. I had to clear away multiple downed trees on my street to get out of my neighborhood, and it was an unnerving experience to saw at the downed trees while looking up at the swaying trees above, wondering which ones were ready to come down as violent 60+ mph gusts tore through.

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Use of word "might" was also a clear qualifier in my book.

Cold weather and storminess headed this way over the weekend. Waves finally.

Quoting 17. Sfloridacat5:



Your wording of "I suspect" should have clarified your meaning. "I suspect" mean I guess.

Quoting Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii:

"Anyone who denies over a century's worth of established science and basic facts is unqualified to be the administrator of the EPA. Now more than ever, the Senate needs to stand up to Scott Pruitt and his dangerous views"
Sedition and treason by accident or design, is still sedition and treason.

great lunch time read it was a howler day fer sure

thanks for the update
Quoting 9. weathermanwannabe:

Snow storms and blizzards are just as bad but I suspect that the actual snow particles in the air might soften the blow a little bit in terms of some wind resistance.
I think I see where you're coming from, but even though the wind might be (ever so slightly) slower, it will still pack the same amount of energy because its effective density will be greater.  That energy doesn't just disappear.
Photo Series Shows Glacier Disappear
Iceland Review, by Vala Hafstað, 08, 2017 15:01Updated: March 09, 2017 15:34
A series of photos, taken by Guðmundur Ögmundsson, Skaftafell National Park manager in the past five years, shows in a striking way how Skaftafellsjökull glacier, an outlet glacier from Vatnajökull glacier, has receded, RÚV reports. In his photo from 2012, part of the glacier is easily visible behind the hill, east of the service center at Skaftafell, Southeast Iceland, but in a photo taken a few days ago, that part of it has disappeared.
“You feel certain nostalgia when looking at the photos,” Guðmundur remarked. “I’ve been there for more than six years and took the first photo in the middle of February, 2012.” He continued, “In fact, I took the first photo by chance, while trying out a new lens I had acquired. Sometime later, when looking at the photo, it occurred to me to go to the same place in a year and take the same kind of photo to see the difference.”
“All the photos are taken at a similar time of year, using the same lens and, actually, the same camera, and it’s clear what’s taking place. Outlet glaciers can move forward or recede from year to year, but in this case, the thinning is obvious,” Guðmundur stated.
You can watch the series of photos here:
LINK
Quoting 33. ldude:

I think I see where you're coming from, but even though the wind might be (ever so slightly) slower, it will still pack the same amount of energy because its effective density will be greater.  That energy doesn't just disappear.


Thanks for the reasoned and respectful response to my comment earlier; this makes sense.
Quoting 23. washingtonian115:



Yesterday (last night) I saw a dozen or more comments disappear but today they came back again!
Inquiring if you had the Science for the werd's was not disrespectful, in anyway.

But you chose to turn to recess werds with "Cop", well..that was your reaction to inquiry, ..not mine.

I wore a Green Uniform, not a Blue one

So be it.


: )
Quoting 33. ldude:

I think I see where you're coming from, but even though the wind might be (ever so slightly) slower, it will still pack the same amount of energy because its effective density will be greater.  That energy doesn't just disappear.


Also, when the wind-driven snow hits you in the face, it really stings!
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Contiguous U.S. Highlights
epa guy must of watched alot of jb's free clips. its an assault on americas preserved natural resources. sad
anyone see the new stuff from NHC this year

eg
upgrade to forecast cone



new advisories and watches and warnings for Pre-storms (High Potential Invest)

"ZCZC MIATCPAT1 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

BULLETIN
Potential Tropical Cyclone Two Advisory Number 1
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022017
500 PM EDT Wed Jun 05 2017

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA...
...DISTURBANCE OVER THE EAST-CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO EXPECTED TO BECOME A
TROPICAL STORM TOMORROW...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...25.5N 86.5W
ABOUT 310 MI...500 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
ABOUT 320 MI...510 KM SSW OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 360 DEGREES AT 3 MPH...6 KM/H


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

A Tropical Storm Warning has been issued for the west coast of
Florida from Boca Grande to Ochlocknee River.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...

* The west coast of Florida from Boca Grande to Ochlocknee River

A tropical storm warning means that tropical storm conditions are
Expected somewhere within the warning area within 36 hours.
For storm information specific to your area, including possible
inland warnings, please monitor products issued by your local
National Weather Service forecast office.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
The area of disturbed weather in the east-central Gulf of Mexico
is gradually becoming better defined, and now poses a risk of
bringing tropical storm conditions to portions of Florida. With
the expectation that the developing system will become a tropical
cyclone before reaching the coast, the disturbance has been designated
Potential Tropical Cyclone Two and advisories have been initiated.

At 500 PM EDT (2200 UTC), the disturbance was centered near latitude
25.5 North, longitude 86.5 West. The system is moving toward the
north near 3 MPH (6 KM/H). A northeastward motion at a faster
forward speed is expected on Thursday and that general motion
should continue Through Friday. The disturbance is forecast to
reach the coast of the Florida big bend on Thursday afternoon or
evening, and move over southeastern Georgia and eastern South
Carolina Thursday Night and Friday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph (55 km/h) with higher gusts.
Conditions appear favorable for further development and the system
is expected to become a tropical cyclone tonight or early Thursday,
and become a tropical storm before it reaches the west coast of
Florida.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND: Tropical storm conditions are expected to first reach the
coast within the warning area Thursday afternoon, making outside
preparations difficult or dangerous.

STORM SURGE: The combination of a storm surge and the tide will
Cause normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by rising
Waters. The water could reach the following heights above ground
If the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide...

Tampa Bay northward to Apalachicola...2 to 4 ft
Florida west coast south of Tampa Bay...1 to 2 ft

The deepest water will occur along the immediate coast near and to
the south of the landfall location. Surge-related flooding depends
On the relative timing of the surge and the tidal cycle, and can
vary greatly over short distances. For information specific to
your area, please see products issued by your local National
Weather Service office.

RAINFALL: Total rain accumulations of 3 to 6 inches are expected
over much of the Florida peninsula, eastern parts of the Florida
panhandle, and southeastern Georgia, with isolated maximum amounts
of 8 inches possible. Total rain accumulations of 2 to 4 inches
are also expected over eastern South Carolina and eastern North
Carolina.

TORNADOES: Isolated tornadoes are possible over the Florida peninsula
late tonight through Thursday.


NEXT ADVISORY
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Next intermediate advisory at 800 PM EDT.
$$
Forecaster Brown/Brennan

NNNN"

also the Experimental Time of Arrival of Tropical-Storm-Force Winds Graphic
Oh I can't wait till we start getting storms this year

I hope we start pre season again
Accusing someone of using recess words like Cop is rich when said poster used the word Tool to describe someone. I have to wonder if this person knows the meaning of hypocrisy.

The windchill temperature tonight should be near -40f around these parts. Winter holds on a little longer.
Quoting 3. Patrap:

Northern California: Before and after 2017 storms January 18, 2014: January 2014




The improvement is quality good.
The winds also likely contributed to a CSX intermodal derailment early Wednesday afternoon in Batavia, which is about 30 miles SW of Rochester. The high wind warning was in effect from 10AM to 10PM from the Niagara Frontier through Monroe County (Rochester). Just under a third of the county was still without power this morning, and states of emergency still exist in the towns of Greece and Irondequoit. Tons of traffic lights are still out, contributing to a number of accidents where people aren't treating them as a four-way stop.
Wow, had no idea that Germany could have been under a tornado threat today, but there was one in northern Bavaria (Kuernach) earlier today. According to this report (video enclosed) it damaged 20 houses (update with a close-up video: 50) but no one was hurt, fortunately.



Another youtube video: LINK

Great photo of the tornado here: LINK

Photo of one of the damaged houses here: LINK

Edit: Here is a photo gallery of this event. Tornado with rainbow! LINK

BTW, it has been a quite warm day with up to 17C (63F) at my place in Mainz.
I surely expect flaming rivers of fire and falling brimstone by June.

Euro drops 10 inches of snow in my yard and most of the snow falls at night.I'm having difficulty posting the photo.
Life must be fun in Siberia! ;-)

Awakening after winter, Siberians pour cold water over themselves
By The Siberian Times reporter, 02 March 2017m
New tradition sees hundreds douse in water to dispel the winter blues. ...
More (including more photos) see link above.



Not so much fun with this upcoming event (in my eyes), though. :-(
Hurricane Hunter's base will move from MacDill Air Force base in Tampa to Lakeland on May 1,

Hurricane Hunter's new home in Florida
Yaaaaawwwwwnnn....wake me up.....when September ends......oh wait it's march
Heeeere's some action



57. bwi
Yikes

12z GFS and CMC.
CPC blog update about ENSO is very interesting as they say "We are on the fence"

CPC Blog
Have to be in Connecticut by the 16th.Hoping I won't have to many travel issues! This winter has done absolutely nothing so far this year.
Quoting 60. washingtonian115:

Have to be in Connecticut by the 16th.Hoping I won't have to many travel issues! This winter has done absolutely nothing so far this year.
GFS, CMC, and Euro all show 6-12 inches for early next week's storm. It appears March is going to be the one to get the job done for snow, just when most people were preparing for Spring.
Quoting 61. Climate175:

GFS, CMC, and Euro all show 6-12 inches for early next week's storm. It appears March is going to be the one to get the job done for snow, just when most people were preparing for Spring.


Yeah I concur with that assessment. Fortunately I didn't take the bait and plant the cool season garden yet. If the cherry blossoms are significantly cold damaged that will be a first in my almost fifty years here
Quoting 52. washingtonian115:

Euro drops 10 inches of snow in my yard and most of the snow falls at night.I'm having difficulty posting the photo.

Maybe because its an alternative photo, that could be the problem. on a more serious note is this going to be one of those Allen B or A storms?
Quoting 61. Climate175:

GFS, CMC, and Euro all show 6-12 inches for early next week's storm. It appears March is going to be the one to get the job done for snow, just when most people were preparing for Spring.

A "bit" of fresh snow in parts of the Austrian Alps, too. And more to come! Below a German weather video from today. My sister is currently skiing in the Austrian Alps, and she already had some great days. But now this might be too much of the white stuff to continue.

Quoting 63. lat25five:


Maybe because its an alternative photo, that could be the problem. on a more serious note is this going to be one of those Allen B or A storms?

I know what Miller A or B storms are. I don't know what Allen storms are. Can somebody tell me?
Sure, over the next 300 to 1000 years global warming is going to take its toll. According to MIT we are still going to see another ice age especially after all the fossil fuels are used up

Looks like it's going to be a one two punch

Global warming vs. the next Ice age

Quoting 34. barbamz:

Photo Series Shows Glacier Disappear
Iceland Review, by Vala Hafstað, 08, 2017 15:01Updated: March 09, 2017 15:34
A series of photos, taken by Guðmundur Ögmundsson, Skaftafell National Park manager in the past five years, shows in a striking way how Skaftafellsjökull glacier, an outlet glacier from Vatnajökull glacier, has receded, RÚV reports. In his photo from 2012, part of the glacier is easily visible behind the hill, east of the service center at Skaftafell, Southeast Iceland, but in a photo taken a few days ago, that part of it has disappeared.
“You feel certain nostalgia when looking at the photos,” Guðmundur remarked. “I’ve been there for more than six years and took the first photo in the middle of February, 2012.” He continued, “In fact, I took the first photo by chance, while trying out a new lens I had acquired. Sometime later, when looking at the photo, it occurred to me to go to the same place in a year and take the same kind of photo to see the difference.”
“All the photos are taken at a similar time of year, using the same lens and, actually, the same camera, and it’s clear what’s taking place. Outlet glaciers can move forward or recede from year to year, but in this case, the thinning is obvious,” Guðmundur stated.
You can watch the series of photos here:
LINK
Published on Mar 8, 2017

The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration said on Wednesday it is investigating a charter flight MD-83 carrying the University of Michigan men's basketball team that slid off the runway at a suburban Detroit airport and sustained extensive damage. The school said in a statement that the plane aborted takeoff in high winds at 2:55 p.m., and after strong braking slid off the runway. The statement added that the plane was safely evacuated and everyone is safe. The FAA said the plane was bound for Washington-Dulles International Airport, near the location of the Big Ten basketball Tournament.

http://feeds.reuters.com/~r/Reuters/d...
http://www.wochit.com





March Madness?

Quoting 66. weathergirl2001:

I know what Miller A or B storms are. I don't know what Allen storms are. Can somebody tell me?

thanks wg thats what I meant.
Quoting 63. lat25five:


Maybe because its an alternative photo, that could be the problem. on a more serious note is this going to be one of those Allen B or A storms?

It will be a Miller B type situation.
We were entering a cooling phase Globally until the Wizardry of Burning coal, then oil and gas to fuel our tremendous growth began. We have imperiled dozens of generations to a much warmer World they will inherit for our mistake.

Did we not think their would be a price to pay for our Viral like expansion. We are the Anthropocene.

The first ever species on Earth to be the sole driver of climate and geology. We move more Earth and water than nature now.

Adding 400,000 tonnes of CO2 a Hour 24/7/365 days a year.

I was Born 15 days into 1960 when the CO2 ppm was 304 ppm. Today it is 406.46 ppm,

In only 57 years.

We passed 350ppm decades ago as that was the tipping point in numbers.


The warming continues, unabated.

All Fracked Up
By: Dr. Ricky Rood , 12:52 PM CST on December 01, 2015







Update to comment #50 about today's Bavarian tornado:
Better video of the rainbow tornado from a closer position: LINK.
Video with a good view of the development in the first seconds: LINK
Authorities have now declared the state of emergency as 50 houses were affected (no injuries).
German weather service commented, a tornado at this time of the year "wasn't unusual though not very likely", hmm. :-)
74. bwi
GFS
Quoting 73. barbamz:

Update to comment #50 about today's Bavarian tornado:
Better video of the rainbow tornado from a closer position: LINK.
Video with a good view of the development in the first seconds: LINK
Authorities have now declared the state of emergency as 50 houses were affected (no injuries).
German weather service commented, a tornado at this time of the year "wasn't unusual though not very likely", hmm. :-)


Spookie stuff there barbamz thanx.

The Nola EF 3 a month ago, the cell and rotation that became that Tornado,came over our neighborhood here south of the Lake ,11 minutes before it touched down.

Those things give me da willies.


Just posted on the Science Mag site; here we go:

Image result for point of know return album cover picture


http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/epa-chief- says-carbon-dioxide-not-primary-contributor-climat e-change

U.S. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt caused a carbon kerfuffle today.

In an interview on CNBC this morning, Pruitt raised doubts over whether or not carbon dioxide is the main driver behind climate change. Asked if CO2 is the "primary control knob for climate," Pruitt said he wouldn't agree with that assessment.

Quoting 73. barbamz:

Update to comment #50 about today's Bavarian tornado:
Better video of the rainbow tornado from a closer position: LINK.
Video with a good view of the development in the first seconds: LINK
Authorities have now declared the state of emergency as 50 houses were affected (no injuries).
German weather service commented, a tornado at this time of the year "wasn't unusual though not very likely", hmm. :-)


The second video is very didactic, thanks for posting.
Quoting 67. Tazmanian8:

Sure, over the next 300 to 1000 years global warming is going to take its toll. According to MIT we are still going to see another ice age especially after all the fossil fuels are used up

Today I sorted my library as I have to get rid of several hundred books in order to get some free space.
In one of the books I wanted to give away (from 1967) I detected a lyric by a German author (Christa Reinig), and then I decided to keep it. Here my try of a translation:

God created the sun
sun rose
sun set and came back.

God created the moon
moon rose
moon set and came back.

God created the stars
stars rose
stars set and came back.

God created man
man rose
went down
and never came back.
18z GFS is running, let's see what new output it says for this Monday night/Tuesday storm.
Quoting 72. Patrap:

We were entering a cooling phase Globally until the Wizardry of Burning coal, then oil and gas to fuel our tremendous growth began. We have imperiled dozens of generations to a much warmer World they will inherit for our mistake.

Did we not think their would be a price to pay for our Viral like expansion. We are the Anthropocene.

The first ever species on Earth to be the sole driver of climate and geology. We move more Earth and water than nature now.

Adding 400,000 tonnes of CO2 a Hour 24/7/365 days a year.

I was Born 15 days into 1960 when the CO2 ppm was 304 ppm. Today it is 406.46 ppm,

In only 57 years.

We passed 350ppm decades ago as that was the tipping point in numbers.


The warming continues, unabated.

All Fracked Up
By: Dr. Ricky Rood , 12:52 PM CST on December 01, 2015










320PPM was the number that locked into my third grade brain in 1967.

Things change.
Quoting 79. Climate175:

18z GFS is running, let's see what new output it says for this Monday night/Tuesday storm.


Still 96-120 hours out. A lot can change. But "warm" doesn't seem to be in any of the cards.
Quoting 81. georgevandenberghe:



Still 96-120 hours out. A lot can change. But "warm" doesn't seem to be in any of the cards.
Agreed, let's see if trends continue.
Recovering From Disasters: Social Networks Matter More Than Bottled Water and Batteries
FloodList - February 20.

Two days from now, on March 11, it will be 6 years since the 2011 Tohoku earthquake, "the most powerful earthquake ever recorded to have hit Japan, and the fourth most powerful earthquake in the world since modern record-keeping began in 1900."

Edit:
"The main earthquake was preceded by a number of large foreshocks, with hundreds of aftershocks reported. One of the first major foreshocks was a 7.2 Mw event on 9 March, approximately 40 km (25 mi) from the epicenter of 11 March earthquake, with another three on the same day in excess of 6.0 Mw." Source: Wikipedia.
Quoting 10. Patrap:

Snow storms and blizzards are just as bad but I suspect that the actual snow particles in the air might soften the blow a little bit in terms of some wind resistance.

...?


Where is the data that supports this?

Thanx


Didn't see the post previous to the one referenced here, but I can tell you from experience that when you drive through a heavy lake effect snow band, which can easily be done anytime they are cooking in upstate New York by driving from Syracuse to Watertown when the bands are up, it goes like this:

In Syracuse it will be windy with deep blue skies, but dark evil looking gray clouds above the Northern horizon. As you drive North, the grey clouds rise higher and higher above the horizon, and shortly after getting under them, there will be a few flurries swirling about. Continuing North, these flurries become pretty dense, say visibility about a mile, and the wind will seem to pick up and be gusty. Further on, a few miles at most, you get into the heaviest bands, where visibility can be under a quarter of a mile, and yes, the snow itself seems to slow the wind. (If you're ever out in such a storm at night, you will see much better, usually, if you turn your headlights OFF). On one occasion, this was like driving into the side of a glass of milk, the snow was so dense.

There are other effects in the mix, of course.
18z GFS coming in stronger.
Here is today's big pic for the Indian Ocean with TC11S and the remnants of Enawo which have finally cleared Madagascar; hoping for a fruitful recovery for them and nice to see that this next TC is going to miss the Island.  Have a safe weather evening and saw yall tomorrow.



 
An interesting piece of severe weather history:
In 1703, Britain was struck by its possibly worst storm ever
BBC, by Lucy Jones, 9 March 2017
On the night of 7 December 1703, the United Kingdom was visited by an extreme weather event. ...
One theory about the storm's origin was that a hurricane in New England had drifted across the Atlantic. ...


And here something about the future:
Denmark, Germany, Netherlands want to create ‘artificial power island’
The Local, 9 March 2017, 09:29 CET+01:00
Three western European countries have revealed plans to build a giant artificial island in the middle of the North Sea where wind farms would create power for 80 million people. ...

Enough weather blogging for tonight from my side. ;-) Have a nice evening, everybody!
Cyclone Enawo - a beach in Antalaha, Madagascar, after the storm:

Source/2 more pics
Lots, lots of damage in this town, according to some reports.

Madagascar: Cyclone Enawo Situation Report No. 1 (March 9 2017)
Reliefweb.int - March 9.
Bad news about the fires and all the problems they have caused and are causing. Thanks for the informative blog heading.

So; it got to +31 C today in Spain which in some areas was a record, ( probably about 90 F) set to continue for another 2 days before it cools a bit over the week end.

The Spanish petroleum company found untold amounts of oil in Alaska, so they are all getting excited here; not that it will affect things and gas is still about $5 US a gallon on a good day, still better than the UK but not a lot.

The news said that Iberian summer had arrived without us having to endure spring.

Passing note:- Where's Hydrus? I've been away and I am not up on things.
13-14 inches up here in NW DC on the latest GFS.Hopefully this thing trends OTS or gets suppressed to the south.
93. bwi
18z GFS looks nastier for NYC, though it backs of on the long-duration for DC (that secondary lobe seems to go around us)
Ryan Maue‏Verified account @RyanMaue 6
GFS 18z is absolutely out of control ... cray! Crippling snowstorm w/1-2 feet next Tuesday. Still some uncertainty but stars are aligning.
a storm is coming
Capital Weather Gang had the chances like this:
35% chance of a Major Storm
35% chance of a Small Storm
30% chance of no storm
I would say the Major Storm chances probably rose at least 20% to now about over a little over a 50% chance.


pounding for sure if it happens still time may go back west and south some maybe next run by 11pm

30's all the way too n fla for lows wed morning

Quoting 92. washingtonian115:

13-14 inches up here in NW DC on the latest GFS.Hopefully this thing trends OTS or gets suppressed to the south.


you gonna get buried wash

all them cherry trees will be done
now we await the 00z run see if it maintains it
by sunday we should know for sure what's to happen if anything
Quoting 104. earthisanocean:

this battle gonna get nasty


faster and faster
Quoting 101. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:



you gonna get buried wash

all them cherry trees will be done
The sun angle will help with a quicker melt.
107. MahFL
Quoting 2. Xandra:

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator said Thursday he does not believe carbon dioxide is a primary contributor to global warming.


A very sad situation. He of course:
"As Oklahoma Attorney General, Pruitt sued the EPA at least 14 times. Regulated industry companies or trade associations who were financial donors to Pruitt's political causes were co-parties in 13 of these 14 cases."

In other words he was co sponsored by dirty industries....
From Climate Nexus:

Scientists, Leaders Slam Scott Pruitt’s Televised Climate Denial

EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said in an interview with CNBC this morning that he doesn’t believe carbon dioxide is a major contributor to climate change.

[...]

The following are quotes from leading climate scientists in response to Pruitt’s remarks.

[...]

Noah Diffenbaugh, Professor in the School of Earth, Energy and Environmental Sciences and Kimmelman Family Senior Fellow at the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment:

“We know that global warming is happening, and that the climate is changing. It’s clear that humans are the primary cause. It’s clear that we are already being impacted by climate change here in the United States. To deny that reality not only is a denial of scientific evidence but it also threatens the safety and security of Americans who face increasing odds of extreme events like the California drought, the flooding from Superstorm Sandy, and the heat wave that decimated crops in the mid-west in 2012.”

John Abraham, Professor, School of Engineering, University of St. Thomas:

"Actually scientists have known since the mid 1800s that carbon dioxide was a major greenhouse gas. This means Mr. Pruitt’s knowledge is close to 200 years out of date."

Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus and Research Professor at Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego:

“CO2 is the most important control on climate. Our burning of coal, oil and gas is the dominant cause of the 45% increase in CO2 since the industrial revolution. The biggest unknown about future climate is human behavior. Everything depends on what people and their governments do. Scott Pruitt should begin his new job by accepting the fundamental findings of modern climate science.”

[...]

The following are quotes from business, military, faith, and conservative leaders and elected officials in response to Pruitt’s remarks.

Brigadier General Stephen A. Cheney, USMC (ret), CEO of the American Security Project:

“Countries are going to pay for climate change one way or another. The best way to pay for it is by tackling the root causes of climate change and cutting greenhouse gas emissions. If we do not, the national security impacts around the world will be increasingly costly, and borne by our men and women in the armed forces.”

Andrew Holland, Director of Studies, American Security Project:

“It is astonishing that EPA Director Pruitt said that he does not believe that carbon dioxide is a primary contributor to climate change. However, it does not actually matter what he “believes” – by law (as decided by the Supreme Court), he is required under the Clean Air Act to promulgate policies that reduce carbon pollution. It is important that the EPA continues to regulate carbon pollution in order to reduce the risk of serious national security consequences of climate change.”

[...]

Dr. Georges Benjamin, MD, Executive Director, American Public Health Association:

“Pruitt is just wrong. Carbon dioxide emissions pose an enormous risk to human health. Carbon pollution is the leading contributor to greenhouse gases that cause climate change. Climate change is causing more heatwaves and drought, more intense extreme weather events, expanded range of disease-carrying ticks and mosquitoes and a host of other threats to health. In addition, carbon emissions contribute to increased smog which triggers asthma attacks and aggravates existing lung disease. The science is clear. We need immediate action to reduce carbon emissions to protect public health.”

Aron Cramer, President and CEO, Business for Social Responsibility:

“EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt’s statement today questioning climate science is deeply troubling. Businesses in the United States and elsewhere are keenly aware that human activity is remaking the climate in ways that create disruption and business risk. In addition to the obvious and substantial human and environmental damage that will result, his approach will undermine the conditions that businesspeople need to innovate, create jobs, and compete in the global marketplace.”

[...]

Rear Admiral David W. Titley, United States Navy (Ret.):

“Within the science community, the link between CO2 and climate change is as well known as the consequences of stepping out of an airplane and the effect of gravity. In both cases, if you ignore the science, someone is going to get hurt.”

[...]

Rev. Mitch Hescox, President/CEO, Evangelical Environmental Network:

"The science of climate change is well understood not only by every major scientific body in the world but also by the over whelming members of the Christian community. The Catholic Church, the National Association of Evangelicals, the World Evangelical Alliance and The Orthodox Communion all understand the carbon caused reality of climate change and most importantly its threats to God 's children around the world."

David Crane, B-Team leader and former head of NRG:

"It is unfortunate that we have people in positions of authority making statements about global warming that are contrary to established science,” said David Crane, B Team leader and co-chair of its Net Zero by 2050 Initiative. “As the climate changes before our eyes, with the pace of change accelerating and irreversible damage occurring to our polar ice caps and other essential ecosystems, to suggest otherwise is not only an insult to the intelligence of the American people but a danger to the well-being of future Americans.”

[...]

Click here to read full article with more quotes.
Quoting 106. washingtonian115:

The sun angle will help with a quicker melt.

that's the only good thing
hopefully the cold don't linger
but from what I am seeing and thinking
there may very well be one more after Tues/weds event still to come
and cold may stay till the 23rd of the month or just after
sad all that nice weather false spring now it will kill everything that decided to bloom early
112. MahFL
Quoting 110. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

sad all that nice weather false spring now it will kill everything that decided to bloom early


Mother nature has a reason for it, not sure what it is though.
Looking back over the past year it's been quite interesting in my back yard.

5-13-16: (A Friday the 13th BTW for the superstitious) A wet microburst blew out several screen panels on my lanai and snapped a few 8-10" tree limbs in the neighborhood.

10-7-16: Hurricane Matthew passes too close for comfort

1-22-17: SPC high risk with supercells lighting up the radar.

Quoting 92. washingtonian115:

13-14 inches up here in NW DC on the latest GFS.Hopefully this thing trends OTS or gets suppressed to the south.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!! :-)))
Has anyone posted this yet? People don't heed tornado (or other weather warnings) because they don't know where they are:

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/ 0 2/many_alabamians_cant_find_them.html

I know on here I get awfully confused when people post maps with no labels, but I certainly have always known what county I was in (except when I first moved to Baltimore, MD, and couldn't parse the fact that it wasn't in a county) and what counties are around me.
Quoting 118. VermontStorms:

Has anyone posted this yet? People don't heed tornado (or other weather warnings) because they don't know where they are:

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/ 0 2/many_alabamians_cant_find_them.html

I know on here I get awfully confused when people post maps with no labels, but I certainly have always known what county I was in (except when I first moved to Baltimore, MD, and couldn't parse the fact that it wasn't in a county) and what counties are around me.

It's certainly been a problem for me when driving across the country. I might know severe weather is in the forecast when I leave in the morning, and I might find weather news on the radio if things looks scary, but I almost never know what county I'm driving through. At least for the Interstate Highways it would be nice to have town names or mileposts.
Quoting 118. VermontStorms:

Has anyone posted this yet? People don't heed tornado (or other weather warnings) because they don't know where they are:

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/ 0 2/many_alabamians_cant_find_them.html

I know on here I get awfully confused when people post maps with no labels, but I certainly have always known what county I was in (except when I first moved to Baltimore, MD, and couldn't parse the fact that it wasn't in a county) and what counties are around me.

Try this link:
Link
Looking at a map of counties in the eastern 2/3 of the U.S., I could see why that might happen: Counties are a dime a dozen.
edit: One should still know which county one LIVES in. Sheesh.
Quoting 103. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:




Hi, Keeper of the gate. Take a look at this graphic from NWS Houston and tell me if you don't see a potential dead ringer for the low pressure disturbance that caused the Houston Memorial Day Floods of 2015!

Link

Quoting 107. MahFL:



A very sad situation. He of course:
"As Oklahoma Attorney General, Pruitt sued the EPA at least 14 times. Regulated industry companies or trade associations who were financial donors to Pruitt's political causes were co-parties in 13 of these 14 cases."

In other words he was co sponsored by dirty industries....


In other words, he's an idiotic corrupt sociopath who is more than willing to watch millions suffer and die just so he can line his pockets with cash. That's par for the course with the current batch of miscreants in power.
Quoting 115. hotroddan:


Good for Scott Pruitt.


Yes. Genocide is always good for a laugh.
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The Winter we never had about to make a BIG appearance
You have got to be kidding.
GFS gives me about 15-17 inches this run.We do need the precipitation but we can do without the FROZEN type.
131. redux
15" in 12 hours is a pretty epic snowfall in my books. If this comes to pass, I guess I can pretty much write off going anywhere tuesday.

So I went to read my local discussion to gather more details about our Wind Advisory tonight. There was a brief mention of 50mph wind gusts. Then there was this commentary...

Excerpt from the 9:15PM Seattle Forecast Discussion:

Keep hearing the Creedence song...Who`ll Stop the Rain...with each successive model run. Sadly...it will not be this forecaster although some drying through the day Friday and into Saturday morning is expected thanks to a weak upper level ridge moving quickly over the area during that time frame. As is always the case though...any succor, no matter how sweet, is short lived here and sure enough another frontal system looks to enter the area late Saturday morning bringing more precip to the area...and another wave of depression. Upper level ridging starts to nuzzle its way into the area for Sunday and ordinarily that would be dry...and great...but both GFS and ECMWF prove how cold and heartless of machines they really are as a shortwave disturbance passing to the north may allow for some showers to bleed into the area.

A positive throughout all of this is that 500 mb heights remain warmer than what has been seen the past two weeks...effectively ending the threat of lowland snow and...doing one better...looks to bump afternoon high temperatures to at or a little above normal as early as Friday with many locations right around the normal climo temp of 52 degrees. So it is not all doom and gloom...just gloom. Lots of gloom.
as per gfs total ground accumulation 8 days from now



looking a lot like winter
Quoting 133. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

as per gfs total ground accumulation 8 days from now



looking a lot like winter


That temp line is going to dance around a lot. The DC-Baltimore corridor area could wind up with ice.

However, I think the freezing line will bounce northward and we'll just get rainy-sleety mess instead.
east Canada total ground accumulation snow cm

its gonna lay down quite the snow cover for someone

all that tender spring vegetation south of me that sprung early will all be gone
Quoting 15. Patrap:



Thats what we thought.




Hey, come on, Pat. Don't be like that. It's fine to criticize or challenge the guy, but it feels like you're ganging up on him. He was just making a hypothesis.
Quoting 114. Gearsts:



Nice, thanks! But please, Gearsts, what am I looking at? My guess: a low last year (September) off the southern coast of Australia, right? BTW, it's still the current wallpaper of my desktop: LINK
Quoting 67. Tazmanian8:

Sure, over the next 300 to 1000 years global warming is going to take its toll. According to MIT we are still going to see another ice age especially after all the fossil fuels are used up

Looks like it's going to be a one two punch

Global warming vs. the next Ice age



A feeling of paradise is upon me, having walked on this tongue in 1991.
Very interesting!
Treating droughts like hurricanes would aid vulnerable areas - researchers
by J.D. Capelouto | Thomson Reuters Foundation, Thursday, 9 March 2017 17:31 GMT
It's a major natural disaster that slowly grows in one place and then moves across a region, gaining intensity and size. As it spreads, it destroys land, ruins agriculture, tears apart communities, and can kill people.
No, it's not a hurricane. It's a drought.
Researchers are just beginning to view droughts as this type of dynamic force, and some hope that soon they will be monitored similarly to hurricanes - with scientists able to predict their development and forecast their paths, helping to protect those living in their path.
Some 10 percent of droughts travel between 1,400 to 3,100 kilometres from where they begin, according to a recent study.
The study, which analysed 1,420 droughts between 1979 and 2009, identified "hotspots" around the world and common directions in which droughts move.
Some droughts in the southwest United States, for example, tend to move from south to north. In Argentina, they usually migrate the opposite direction. In Central Africa, droughts tend to go southeastern toward the coast.
"It can start somewhere, move throughout the continent, and obviously cause harm throughout its way," Julio Herrera-Estrada, a PhD candidate at Princeton University and leader of the study, said on Thursday.
Droughts that travel are usually the largest and most disastrous, the scientists found. ...

Whole article see link above.

Mesoscale Discussion 0285
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK, 0309 AM CST Fri Mar 10 2017
Areas affected...North-central Alabama and north/central Georgia
Quoting 135. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

east Canada total ground accumulation snow cm



Meanwhile sunny and quite warm in most of Europe:
Quoting 138. barbamz:


Nice, thanks! But please, Gearsts, what am I looking at? My guess: a low last year (September) off the southern coast of Australia, right? BTW, it's still the current wallpaper of my desktop: LINK

From the Archive:

2016/12/28 - Midlatitude cyclone moving eastward south of Australia

Boy, was it windy yesterday. Be on the look out for flying kids.



Little girl takes flight due to heavy winds (with video)
Little girl takes flight due to heavy winds (with video)

Forgot the link. Can't modify the original post.
Katharine Hayhoe:
@KHayhoe

How much of our current warming is human-induced? Likely more than 100% - because according to natural factors, we should be cooling.

Drone video captures wildfire-ravaged Kansas landscape

Mar 09, 2017

A drone captures stark images of the scarred Kansas land near Coldwater and Greensburg on March 8, 2017. (Courtesy of Jonah Sowa/Kiowa County Media Center)

Good Morning Folks; here is the Conus forecast for today and the current look:



And it was rough last night in terms of severe weather and looking calmer today:


yesterday Reports Graphic


And finally noting, as we have discussed recently and all over TWC last night, a little hard to believe that one of the biggest winter storms, with the most snow of the 2016-2017 Winter Season for the NE, is actually taking place next week closing in on Mid-March;

EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
1242 AM EST FRI MAR 10 2017

VALID 12Z MON MAR 13 2017 - 12Z FRI MAR 17 2017

...WINTER AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER...


...OVERVIEW...

A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT LATE-WINTER STORM IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP
OFF THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK AND TRACK JUST OFF THE
NEW ENGLAND COAST. VERY COLD AIR FOR MID-MARCH WILL ACCOMPANY THE
NOR'EASTER AND WILL LINGER THROUGH THE WEEK. THE SOUTHWEST WILL BE
MUCH QUIETER (AND WARM) WHILE THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WILL SEE A
COUPLE SYSTEMS PUSH THROUGH.


...GUIDANCE PREFERENCES AND EVALUATION...

A CONSENSUS BLEND WAS USED FOR THE MON-WED FORECAST (BUT NOT THE
12Z UKMET) AS THE GFS/ECMWF/CANADIAN ALL REPRESENTED PLAUSIBLE
SOLUTIONS NEAR ENOUGH TO THEIR ENSEMBLE MEANS. TRENDED TO JUST THE
ECMWF WITH THE 18Z GEFS MEAN AND 12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN BY NEXT
FRIDAY WITH INCREASED UNCERTAINTY IN THE CENTRAL CONUS (GFS
APPEARED TOO FAR EAST WITH LOWER PRESSURES IN THE LOWER MS
VALLEY).

MAIN EVENT WILL BE IN THE NORTHEAST EARLY NEXT WEEK (TUE INTO
WED... PI DAY AND THE IDES OF MARCH). DESPITE THE EARLY TASTE OF
SPRING FOR MUCH OF THE EAST IN FEBRUARY AND EARLY MARCH, WINTER
APPEARS TO BE READY FOR A COMEBACK. THE 12Z MODELS/ENSEMBLES HAVE
MOSTLY CONVERGED ON A RAPIDLY DEEPENING STORM ON TUESDAY, THOUGH
THE EVOLUTION REMAINS COMPLICATED. IN ADDITION, EARLIER RUNS WERE
NOT AS ROBUST SO NOTHING IS SET IN STONE.

THE SETUP IS NOT YOUR CLASSIC MILLER TYPE-A OR TYPE-B STORM BUT
SEEMINGLY A COMBINATION OF THE TWO -- THERE IS FORECAST TO BE AN
ALREADY-DEFINED SURFACE LOW OFF THE GA COAST LATE MONDAY (VERY
MILLER TYPE-A) IN ADDITION TO AN UPSTREAM CLIPPER MOVING THROUGH
THE OHIO VALLEY (LIKE A MILLER TYPE-B). HOW THE UPPER TROUGH
SWINGS THROUGH THE MIDWEST WILL DETERMINE HOW THE DOMINANT LOW
TRACKS -- IT COULD BE TUGGED FARTHER WEST BY A STRONGLY DIGGING
TROUGH OR BE LEFT TO SWING FARTHER EAST. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
SITUATIONS WHERE THE SPREAD OF POSSIBILITIES IS NECESSARILY LARGE,
ENCOMPASSING NEARLY ALL SCENARIOS FROM A LIGHT/MINOR EVENT TO AN
OUTRIGHT BLIZZARD, DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION.
The Gulf Stream was located further North off the NE coast a few seasons ago and it contributed to a snow effect on the Coast for certain parts; it has been branching off of the US further to the South the last two years but could help give the storm some more energy depending on whether the low tracks a little further to the East on the way to the NE:




Here are a few panels with the low off of Florida/GA on day 3 then swinging up towards the NE on day 4:


Day 3 Fronts and Pressures
Day 4 Fronts and Pressures

And down to 992 millibars as it reaches the Canadian maritimes on day 5:

Day 5 Fronts and Pressures

From Grist:

SEA SICK



Oceans are about to turn into a frothing cauldron of death. Under the influence of climate change, huge patches of ocean will grow hot, acidic, and barren in coming decades according to new projections published in Nature Communications. If life goes on as usual, climate change will disrupt more than half of the world’s ocean habitat in the next 15 years, and 86 percent by 2050.
That means more coral death and more extinctions. It also threatens the fish — the primary source of protein for a billion people. Some fish are already moving, searching out cooler water.

According to this study, action to curb climate change could reduce the impact of this slow-motion crash “drastically,” but we’d still be looking at damage to 34 percent of the earth’s oceans within the next 15 years.

Eventually some species will find a way to thrive in hotter seas, and new ecosystems will grow in the impoverished regions, but it’s hard to find any bright side here. Maybe more tropical waters will mean more homes for creatures that like to live in a pineapple under the sea?
Ya know, I am not particularly religious, but a careful reading of the Book of Revelation becomes more pertinent each and every day.
Quoting 155. daddyjames:

Ya know, I am not particularly religious, but a careful reading of the Book of Revelation becomes more pertinent each and every day.

Image result for the horsemen of the apocalypse
Quoting 156. weathermanwannabe:




That, but not only that. In regards to those that specifically will suffer the "wrath of God."
There is another factor affecting the number of weather-related power outages: The massive growth of suburban sprawl, where power lines tend to be more vulnerable to weather than those in cities. And even in specific areas that have been around since 1980 and where there are overhead power lines, I see trees being closer to power lines than before.
Quoting 150. weathermanwannabe:

And finally noting, as we have discussed recently and all over TWC last night, a little hard to believe that one of the biggest winter storms, with the most snow of the 2016-2017 Winter Season for the NE, is actually taking place next week closing in on Mid-March;

EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
1242 AM EST FRI MAR 10 2017

VALID 12Z MON MAR 13 2017 - 12Z FRI MAR 17 2017

...WINTER AIN'T OVER TILL IT'S OVER...


...OVERVIEW...

A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT LATE-WINTER STORM IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP
OFF THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK AND TRACK JUST OFF THE
NEW ENGLAND COAST. VERY COLD AIR FOR MID-MARCH WILL ACCOMPANY THE
NOR'EASTER AND WILL LINGER THROUGH THE WEEK. THE SOUTHWEST WILL BE
MUCH QUIETER (AND WARM) WHILE THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WILL SEE A
COUPLE SYSTEMS PUSH THROUGH.


...GUIDANCE PREFERENCES AND EVALUATION...

A CONSENSUS BLEND WAS USED FOR THE MON-WED FORECAST (BUT NOT THE
12Z UKMET) AS THE GFS/ECMWF/CANADIAN ALL REPRESENTED PLAUSIBLE
SOLUTIONS NEAR ENOUGH TO THEIR ENSEMBLE MEANS. TRENDED TO JUST THE
ECMWF WITH THE 18Z GEFS MEAN AND 12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN BY NEXT
FRIDAY WITH INCREASED UNCERTAINTY IN THE CENTRAL CONUS (GFS
APPEARED TOO FAR EAST WITH LOWER PRESSURES IN THE LOWER MS
VALLEY).

MAIN EVENT WILL BE IN THE NORTHEAST EARLY NEXT WEEK (TUE INTO
WED... PI DAY AND THE IDES OF MARCH). DESPITE THE EARLY TASTE OF
SPRING FOR MUCH OF THE EAST IN FEBRUARY AND EARLY MARCH, WINTER
APPEARS TO BE READY FOR A COMEBACK. THE 12Z MODELS/ENSEMBLES HAVE
MOSTLY CONVERGED ON A RAPIDLY DEEPENING STORM ON TUESDAY, THOUGH
THE EVOLUTION REMAINS COMPLICATED. IN ADDITION, EARLIER RUNS WERE
NOT AS ROBUST SO NOTHING IS SET IN STONE.

THE SETUP IS NOT YOUR CLASSIC MILLER TYPE-A OR TYPE-B STORM BUT
SEEMINGLY A COMBINATION OF THE TWO -- THERE IS FORECAST TO BE AN
ALREADY-DEFINED SURFACE LOW OFF THE GA COAST LATE MONDAY (VERY
MILLER TYPE-A) IN ADDITION TO AN UPSTREAM CLIPPER MOVING THROUGH
THE OHIO VALLEY (LIKE A MILLER TYPE-B). HOW THE UPPER TROUGH
SWINGS THROUGH THE MIDWEST WILL DETERMINE HOW THE DOMINANT LOW
TRACKS -- IT COULD BE TUGGED FARTHER WEST BY A STRONGLY DIGGING
TROUGH OR BE LEFT TO SWING FARTHER EAST. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
SITUATIONS WHERE THE SPREAD OF POSSIBILITIES IS NECESSARILY LARGE,
ENCOMPASSING NEARLY ALL SCENARIOS FROM A LIGHT/MINOR EVENT TO AN
OUTRIGHT BLIZZARD, DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION.



March is normally a winter month when it comes to east coast snowstorms with numerous precedents. It isn't alarming we're getting a midmonth one in the Mid Atlantic, what is is the hideous cold ahead of and behind it, impacting vegetation that is two weeks advanced by a record warm late winter. Precedents for THAT are the upper South 2007 (early April) and the upper Midwest and New England, (April after that incredible March) . Michigan experienced a fruit disaster that year with many different crops (cherries, grapes in particular) wiped out.

Not happy to be staring down the barrel of that same gun.
Quoting 159. Klipperweather:

There is another factor affecting the number of weather-related power outages: The massive growth of suburban sprawl, where power lines tend to be more vulnerable to weather than those in cities. And even in specific areas that have been around since 1980 and where there are overhead power lines, I see trees being closer to power lines than before.


Gets worse as those new trees of 1990s era developments age and get big. BTW Bradford pears, so popular in the 60s through 80s, are turning out to be a true menace since they are fast growing and fragile

And those assurances that they were sterile. Woopsie!
Ya gotta love OK.

Proposed Electric Vehicle Fee Stirs Resentment Among Oklahoma Owners

The proposed fee is to account for the fact that those that drive electric cars do not pay a gas tax which funds road repair (those terms "fund" and "road repair" are laughable here in OK - if you live here, you know why). And here I thought naively that our representatives were all about lessening the tax burden on folks in OK.
Quoting 162. daddyjames:

Ya gotta love OK.

Proposed Electric Vehicle Fee Stirs Resentment Among Oklahoma Owners

The proposed fee is to account for the fact that those that drive electric cars do not pay a gas tax which funds road repair (those terms "fund" and "road repair" are laughable here in OK - if you live here, you know why). And here I thought naively that our representatives were all about lessening the tax burden on folks in OK.


The GOP'hers et al will continue to drag the USA down to a mere shadow of its former self.
Semper Fi'
Quoting 163. Patrap:



The GOP'hers et al will continue to drag the USA down to a mere shadow of its former self.
Semper Fi'


A current strain of GOPer's - yes. Not all can be lumped into a single basket.
Quoting 161. georgevandenberghe:



Gets worse as those new trees of 1990s era developments age and get big. BTW Bradford pears, so popular in the 60s through 80s, are turning out to be a true menace since they are fast growing and fragile

And those assurances that they were sterile. Woopsie!


Generally speaking, any fast growing tree is fragile. Trade off between "strength and resistance" with "rapid replacement".
Sedition by design or accident, is still sedition.

The Admin in power has that on its sleeve and neck,..and we cold warriors see it for what it truly is.

In time, so will the World.

I will be enjoying a few days off as I've a VA socialized medicine, surgery Monday.


Have a great weekend.
160. georgevandenberghe10:21 AM EST on March 10, 2017

And another precedent is the great no-name storm of April 1993 that walloped the entire Eastern Seaboard from Florida to the NE; that one bombed out early in the period with hurricane force winds in the Eastern Gulf before swinging up towards the NE.
168. bwi
NWS DC has already converted to daylight savings time.

The 10:52am update is in. It's currently 10:36am.

Current conditions at
Washington/Reagan National Airport, DC (KDCA)
Lat: 38.85°NLon: 77.03°WElev: 13ft.

Light Rain Fog/Mist
38°F
3°C
Humidity 93%
Wind Speed NW 20 mph
Barometer 29.89 in (1012.1 mb)
Dewpoint 36°F (2°C)
Visibility 5.00 mi
Wind Chill 28°F (-2°C)
Last update 10 Mar 10:52 am EDT
Quoting 166. Patrap:

Sedition by design or accident, is still sedition.

The Admin in power has that on its sleeve and neck,..and we cold warriors see it for what it truly is.

In time, so will the World.

I will be enjoying a few days off as I've a VA socialized medicine, surgery Monday.


Have a great weekend.

Wishing you the best and a rapid recovery.
My experience in and around Philadelphia since I moved in at age 5 in 1966 is that the windstorms of late winter and early spring are not getting worse. However, I do see climate change causing springtime windstorms and severe weather to shift a little to earlier in the season than before.
Quoting 155. daddyjames:

Ya know, I am not particularly religious, but a careful reading of the Book of Revelation becomes more pertinent each and every day.

In the end all will believe :D
Quoting 168. bwi:

NWS DC has already converted to daylight savings time.

The 10:52am update is in. It's currently 10:36am.

Current conditions at
Washington/Reagan National Airport, DC (KDCA)
Lat: 38.85°NLon: 77.03°WElev: 13ft.

Light Rain Fog/Mist
38°F
3°C
Humidity 93%
Wind Speed NW 20 mph
Barometer 29.89 in (1012.1 mb)
Dewpoint 36°F (2°C)
Visibility 5.00 mi
Wind Chill 28°F (-2°C)
Last update 10 Mar 10:52 am EDT


How so? Isn't that the correct time (before the change)?
Quoting 167. weathermanwannabe:

160. georgevandenberghe10:21 AM EST on March 10, 2017
And another precedent is the great no-name storm of April 1993 that walloped the entire Eastern Seaboard from Florida to the NE; that one bombed out early in the period with hurricane force winds in the Eastern Gulf before swinging up towards the NE.


I was looking at precedents for freezes. There are a lot of precedents for storms. April 6, 1982 comes to mind, a classic winter intensity and structure, coastal; 6-12" of snow in Central Jersey and spring flowers above the snow line were wiped out by lows in the teens. High of 28F April 7 under brilliant sunshine but with a dry powdery drifting snow cover. This forecast storm looks a lot like that one. The 1993 storm followed a cold February and early March and vegetation in this area was not at all vulnerable.
Video of some of the tornado damage in Bavaria yesterday. In the second half pics from a huge roof with solar panels, many of which are now gone. LINK
Edit: English report now available in The Local.

And this nice story from the US came up as well :-)
March 9: Tornado carries family's wedding memories more than 50 miles away
Quoting 171. cRRKampen:


In the end all will believe :D


Only those remaining . . . .
My Daughter is scheduled to fly to UC Berkeley on Wed from Mass for a post-graduate work interview...........Advised her last night to postpone the interview/trip to Thurs if possible; have a feeling flights are going to be cancelled and backed up in the NE on Wed.


large dome extreme cold over the high northern territories nice dual flow from north eastern Labrador all the way down to ne tropical pacific cold rushing down and out with several storms eastern half to follow likely
I just read the article above and it failed to mention the winds that swept across the Upper Peninsula on Tuesday. Rock of Ages on the tip of Isle Royal got a 79 mph wind gust and places all along the Superior shoreline were recording 70 mph gusts. There was even a 71 mph gust in Seney, MI, which is well inland from the shoreline. Thousands were without power (including me for 7 hours, thankfully it wasn't brutally cold out) and some did not get power back until yesterday night.

If you are going to write an article about Michigan, please don't forget there are two parts to the state. TIA
Quoting 175. daddyjames:



Only those remaining . . . .
100,000 from every tribe
Quoting 163. Patrap:



The GOP'hers et al will continue to drag the USA down to a mere shadow of its former self.
Semper Fi'

You guys have already been doing that for years.
Quoting 157. daddyjames:



That, but not only that. In regards to those that specifically will suffer the "wrath of God."
And you remember that, according to the Biblical description of the Deluge, God promised never to do that again -- but he didn't say anything about heat and drought!
182. bwi
It's still standard time in DC. They've prematurely switched to EDT

Currenty 10:52 EST
Quoting 181. CaneFreeCR:

And you remember that, according to the Biblical description of the Deluge, God promised never to do that again -- but he didn't say anything about heat and drought!
or fire it cleanse everything and makes it anew
Quoting 182. bwi:

It's still standard time in DC. They've prematurely switched to EDT

Currenty 10:52 EST


LOL - thanks. I did not catch that :D
Quoting 180. PensacolaDoug:


You guys have already been doing that for years.


Doesn't mean that faster and even more damaging is an appropriate response.
Quoting 181. CaneFreeCR:

And you remember that, according to the Biblical description of the Deluge, God promised never to do that again -- but he didn't say anything about heat and drought!


It does mention that all the islands will disappear . . . not necessarily why though.
Sideglance to New Zealand:
Power cuts, road closures and warnings as dire weather strikes North Island again
10:14 PM Friday Mar 10, 2017
Power cuts, road closures and warnings as dire weather strikes North Island again
10:14 PM Friday Mar 10, 2017
KEY POINTS
- Hundreds of people are without power in Auckland due to weather-related outages. A power cut has left 616 houses in the dark in Glen Eden. A further 108 homes are without power in Silverdale after a lightning strike an 100 households in Henderson.
- Some homes in Kawakawa Bay, which has been cut off for a few days due to heavy rain, arer now facing a power cut.
- A weather event being dubbed a 'mini tornado' has sent a trampoline flying and uprooted trees in Stanmore Bay, Whangaparaoa.
- Heavy rain has caused a number of houses to flood across Auckland, mainly in the eastern suburbs.
- Two vehicles were rescued from floodwaters on Portland Rd in Remuera.
- A large amount of earth has slipped into the water, in front of a cliff-side home on Waiheke. Slips have also closed Avalon Rd in Whangamata. Contractors are trying to clear the situation.



A house on Auckland’s Waiheke Island was teetering at the edge of a cliff on Friday, March 10, after a storm hit New Zealand’s North Island.
Quoting 175. daddyjames:



Only those remaining . . . .

ssttt
Quoting 180. PensacolaDoug:


You guys have already been doing that for years.


Americans either comes together to elect non Corporate owned politicians apart from the two party system or we are doomed to an eventual NWO of the 1%, by the 1%, and for the 1%. If we want to ever see AGW tackled like it should be and wealth equality wrestled from the evil cabal that holds it now; then we must elect people who are beholden to the people. We a'int got of that going on in Congress currently. Only way we break this cycle is to completely ditch two party system. To save America and the environment we must put in people who care for the American people and the environment over serving their Corporate masters. People need to wake up and start to seek what's really going in this world.
Quoting 194. DeepSeaRising:



Americans either comes together to elect non Corporate owned politicians apart from the two party system or we are doomed to an eventual NWO of the 1%, by the 1%, and for the 1%. If we want to ever see AGW tackled like it should be and wealth equality wrestled from the evil cabal that holds it now; then we must elect people who are beholden to the people. We a'int got of that going on in Congress currently. Only way we break this cycle is to completely ditch two party system. To save America and the environment we must put in people who care for the American people and the environment over serving their Corporate masters. People need to wake up and start to seek what's really going in this world.





We are those other folks, "Independents", who already subscribe to doing the right thing.

Every American institution is under attack as the current admins mission is to "deconstruct the Administrative State."

Steve Bannon quote.







Quoting 197. washingtonian115:




UUhhh.. This ain't millimeters is it? :-(


Thinking April 6, 1982 as an analog though that was a little north and east of where this one would be if it dumped on the DC metro area. April 6 was a Philly to Boston event.
grand total in cm snow cover on ground out too hr 144

Quoting 197. washingtonian115:



Come on and boom! I want snow!
Quoting 202. 1Zach1:


Come on and boom! I want snow!
may not want it once it gets there this will be the largest snow event of the season seems
I am doubting those totals but its being persistent with it and if we get another right after it there will be snow till Easter on the ground
I got totals in cm over north eastern penns state at 111cm at hr 144 that's like mental or somem
some places are looking at the entire winter worth of snow just from this one storm get ready keep watch we know for sure in 2 days
Quoting 206. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

some places are looking at the entire winter worth of snow just from this one storm get ready keep watch we know for sure in 2 days
I guess this would be the winter equivalent of "it only takes one".I only have 2 and half inches so far this season which is a far cry of where I was this time last winter and the two before that.
As apocalyptic weather events increase there should be ever less media coverage of it. Nothing can be allowed which might cause humans to become more conservative, particularly in the area of consumption.
hopefully it settles down some with these totals unless it going to show even more 18z will be interesting to see if it maintains 00 tonight is what I wait too see
as long as it keeps consistency the likely hood of a high impact wide spread event is becoming more likely
temps are on the down turn here 19f wind chill -1 as per pws just now this morning it was 24f at 8 am

cold air is being put into place puzzle is coming together
212. elioe
While Eastern U.S. and Canada are waiting for huge amounts of snow, I'm waiting for the 7 cm here on ground to melt soon. Welcome spring!

213. bwi
Seems to me GFS has been trending west with the storm's main low. That could mean we get switchover to rain on the east side of DC. ECMWF looked a bit more east to me on last night's, implying all snow (although I don't have a subscribe to see their model details). We'll see!


Quoting 213. bwi:

Seems to me GFS has been trending west with the storm's main low. That could mean we get switchover to rain on the east side of DC. ECMWF looked a bit more east to me on last night's, implying all snow (although I don't have a subscribe to see their model details). We'll see!





Looking eagarly at this for the WATER too. We have been dry. No spring peepers
so far this spring in my area and they are usually out by now. But they breed in vernal puddles and there aren't any around my area this season.
I've just uploaded a new post on next week's nor'easter.
Quoting 194. DeepSeaRising:



Americans either comes together to elect non Corporate owned politicians apart from the two party system or we are doomed to an eventual NWO of the 1%, by the 1%, and for the 1%. If we want to ever see AGW tackled like it should be and wealth equality wrestled from the evil cabal that holds it now; then we must elect people who are beholden to the people. We a'int got of that going on in Congress currently. Only way we break this cycle is to completely ditch two party system. To save America and the environment we must put in people who care for the American people and the environment over serving their Corporate masters. People need to wake up and start to seek what's really going in this world.


Spot on and people not only need to wake up, but need to look up as well.


Quoting 215. BobHenson:

I've just uploaded a new post on next week's nor'easter.


No link to it? Gonna make us work for this. Where is the standard "New Post" announcement?
Quoting 217. daddyjames:



No link to it? Gonna make us work for this. Where is the standard "New Post" announcement?

Looks like they're already dismantling old WU step by step :-(