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Earth on Pace For Its Warmest Year on Record After a 5th Warmest November

By: Jeff Masters 8:18 PM GMT on December 19, 2016

November 2016 was Earth's fifth warmest November since record keeping began in 1880, said NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) on Monday. November 2016 was 0.73°C (1.31°F) warmer than the 20th-century November average, but 0.23°C (0.41°F) cooler than the record warmth of 2015. NASA reported that November 2016 was the second warmest November in its database, behind November 2015. The difference between the two data sets is, in large part, due to how they handle the data-sparse areas in the Arctic, which was record warm in November. NOAA does not include most of the Arctic in their global analysis, while NASA does.


Figure 1. Departure of temperature from average by region for November 2016, the fifth warmest November for the globe since record keeping began in 1880. Record warmth was observed across parts of central and southeastern Canada, some areas across the far northern tier of the United States along with a portion of the southwest U.S., parts of western and southern Mexico, sections of eastern and west central Africa, a few parts of northern South America, and regions of some southeastern Asia island nations. Cooler-than-average conditions were observed across much of the central Eurasian continent, with monthly temperatures at least 5°C (9°F) below average in central Russia and parts of northeastern Asia. In South America, central Bolivia experienced record cold temperatures during November. Image credit: NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI).

A weak La Niña event is now underway in the Eastern Pacific, and the cool waters present there have helped cool the planet slightly below the record warm levels observed during the strong El Niño event that ended in May 2016. The fact that November 2016 was still the 2nd to 5th warmest November on record despite the presence of La Niña can mostly be attributed to the steady build-up of heat-trapping greenhouse gases due to human activities. NOAA’s global surface temperature for the year so far (January-November 2016) is an impressive 0.94°C (1.69°F) above the 20th-century average and 0.07°C (0.13°F) warmer than the previous January-to-November record, set in 2015. Remarkably, no continental land areas were cooler than average for the year-to-date. It is almost certain that 2016 will end up as the warmest year on record for the planet, giving Earth three consecutive warmest years on record.

Ocean-only, land-only, and lower atmosphere temperatures in November
Ocean-only temperatures this November were the second warmest on record, while land-only temperatures were the 12th warmest on record. (Since most of Earth’s surface is covered by ocean, the land-plus-ocean reading is dominated by the ocean-only temperatures, thus keeping November 2016 so warm globally.) For the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere, global satellite-measured temperatures in November 2016 and for the Jan - Nov year-to-date period were the warmest in the 38-year record, according to the University of Alabama in Huntsville (UAH). For the stratosphere, the year-to-date temperatures were the coldest on record. Stratospheric cooling is a classic symptom of an increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere—the upper atmosphere must cool to compensate for warming near the surface.


Figure 2. Departure from the 20th-century average for the global January-through-November temperature for the years 1880 - 2016. This year has seen by far the warmest temperatures on record for the year-to-date period. Image credit: NOAA/National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI).

Arctic sea ice hits its lowest November extent on record
November 2016 Arctic sea ice extent was the lowest in the 38-year satellite record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC). The record low was due to unusually high air temperatures, winds from the south, and a warm ocean. For a brief period in the middle the month, total extent actually decreased by 50,000 square kilometers (9,300 square miles.) The only other November retreat of Arctic sea ice in the 38-year satellite record was a less pronounced and brief retreat of 14,000 square kilometers (5,400 square miles) that occurred in 2013. Seven of the eleven months of 2016 have seen record-low Arctic sea ice, and the annual sea ice minimum in September was the second lowest on record.

Sea ice around Antarctic was also extraordinarily low in November--more than 1 million sq km below the previous monthly record, from 1986. The monthly value was 5.7 standard deviations below the long-term average, a mammoth departure and more than twice as large as the previous record. Sea-ice formation processes are largely decoupled between the Arctic and Antarctic, so there is no obvious direct link between the record-low values at the two poles in November.


Figure 3. Daily mean temperatures by Julian day through December 18, 2016 over the Arctic north of 80°N, as compiled by the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI). Temperatures for this year (red line) are compared to the long-term averages (green line.) Temperatures in October, November, and the first half of December were 5 - 20°C (8 - 36°F) above average. This is by far the warmest multi-month anomaly measured since DMI began tracking Arctic temperatures in 1956. According to the 2016 Arctic Report Card, issued last week, the average surface air temperature of the Arctic for the year ending September 2016 was by far the highest since 1900, and new monthly record highs were recorded in January, February, October and November 2016.

No billion-dollar weather disasters in November 2016
According to the November 2016 Catastrophe Report from insurance broker Aon Benfield, no billion-dollar weather-related disasters hit the planet in November. However, one event from October—Super Typhoon Chaba in South Korea and Japan—accumulated enough damage claims to be rated a billion-dollar disaster by the end of November. From January through November 2016, there were 30 billion-dollar weather disasters globally. This is the fourth greatest number of such disasters in any year since 1990. Only 2013 (41), 2010 (40), and 2011 (35) had more. For the U.S., Aon Benfield counted thirteen billion-dollar weather disasters during January - November 2016, which is the second highest number of such disasters on record since 1980 (the record: sixteen in 2011.)

Here is Aon Benfield’s tally of billion-dollar weather disasters globally for January - November 2016:

1) Flooding, Yangtze Basin, China, 5/1 - 8/1, $28.0 billion, 475 killed
2) Hurricane Matthew, Caribbean, Bahamas, U.S., 9/28 - 10/10, $15.5 billion, 603+ killed
3) Flooding, Louisiana U.S., 8/9 - 8/16, $10 - $15 Billion, 13 killed
4) Drought, China, 6/1 - 8/31, $6 billion, 0 killed
5) Flooding, Germany, France, Austria, Poland, 5/26 - 6/6, $5.5 billion, 17 killed
6) Drought, India, 1/1 - 6/30, $5.0 billion, 0 killed
7) Flooding, Northeast China 7/16 - 7/24, $4.7 billion, 289 killed
8) Wildfire, Fort McMurray, Canada, 5/2- 6/1, $4.5 billion, 0 killed
9) Severe Weather, Plains-Southeast U.S., 4/10 - 4/13, $4.3 billion, 1 killed
10) Drought, Thailand, 1/1 - 6/30, $3.3 billion, 0 killed
11) Severe Weather, Rockies-Plains-Southeast-Midwest U.S., 3/22 - 3/25, $2.5 billion, 0 killed
12) Super Typhoon Meranti, China, Taiwan, Philippines, 9/13 - 9/16, $2.5 billion, 44 killed
13) Flooding, China, 6/18 - 6/23, $2.3 billion, 68 killed
14) Flooding, Texas U.S., 4/15 - 4/19, $2.0 billion, 9 killed
15) Winter Weather, East Asia, 1/20 - 1/26, $2.0 billion, 116 killed
16) Severe Weather, Plains-Midwest U.S., 4/29 - 5/3, $1.8 billion, 6 killed
17) Tropical Cyclone Roanu, Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, China, 5/14 - 5/21, $1.8 billion, 135 killed
18) Severe Weather, Plains-Rockies U.S., 7/28 - 7/29, $1.6 billion, 0 killed
19) Drought, Zimbabwe, 6/1 - 8/10, $1.6 billion, 0 killed
20) Flooding and Severe Weather, Plains-Midwest-Southeast-Northeast U.S., 3/4 - 3/12, $1.5 billion, 6 killed
21) Super Typhoon Nepartak, Philippines, Taiwan, China, 7/8 - 7/12, $1.4 billion, 111 killed
22) Severe Weather, Plains-Southeast U.S., 3/17 - 3/18, $1.4 billion, 0 killed
23) Tropical Cyclone Winston, Fiji, 2/16 - 2/22, $1.4 billion, 44 killed
24) Flooding, Argentina and Uruguay, 4/4 - 4/10, $1.3 billion, 0 killed
25) Severe Weather, Plains-Midwest U.S., 5/21 - 5/28, $1.3 billion, 1 killed
26) Severe Weather, Plains-Midwest-Southeast-Northeast U.S., 2/22 - 2/25, $1.2 billion, 10 killed
27) Severe Weather, Netherlands, 6/23 - 6/24, $1.1 billion, 0 killed
28) Severe Weather, Plains-Midwest-Mississippi Valley U.S., 5/7 - 5/10, $1.0 billion, 2 killed
29) Winter Weather, Eastern U.S., 1/21 - 1/24, $1.0 billion, 58 killed
30) Super Typhoon Chaba, South Korea, Japan, 10/5 - 10/6, $1.0 billion, 10 killed

And here is the one new billion-dollar disaster from the November 2016 Aon Benfield report in more detail:


Disaster 1. Category 5 Super Typhoon Chaba peaked at 165 mph winds south of Okinawa, Japan on October 3 before weakening to a Category 1 storm as it grazed South Korea on October 5. Southern South Korea was the hardest-hit with ten killed and the large majority of the $1 billion in damage from the storm. In this image, we see an International Space Station view of the typhoon taken at 08 UTC October 3, 2016 when the storm was at peak intensity: a 905 mb central pressure and sustained winds of 165 mph.

Notable global heat and cold marks set in November 2016
Hottest temperature in the Northern Hemisphere: 41.6°C (106.9°F) at Matam, Senegal, 8 and 24 November
Coldest temperature in the Northern Hemisphere: -57.0°C (-70.6°F) at Summit, Greenland, 24 November
Hottest temperature in the Southern Hemisphere: 46.3°C (115.3°F) at West Roebuck, Australia, 5 November
Coldest temperature in the Southern Hemisphere: -60.6°C (-77.1°F) at Concordia, Antarctica, 1 November
(Courtesy of Maximiliano Herrera.)

Major weather stations that set (not tied) new all-time heat or cold records in November 2016 (Courtesy of Maximiliano Herrera)
Combarbala (Chile) max. 37.3°C, 3 November
San Lorenzo (Chile) max. 39.7°C, 3 November
Lay Lay (Chile) max. 40.5°C, 17 November
Esperantina (Brazil) max. 41.8°C, 25 November
Ambon (Indonesia) max. 36.2°C, 29 November
San Fernando (Chile) max. 36.4°C, 29 November
Twee Rivieren (South Africa) max. 45.6°C, 30 November

One all-time national heat record set or tied in November 2016
One nation or territory—The Comoros—set an all-time heat record in November 2016. From January through November 30, 2016, a total of 22 nations or territories tied or set all-time records for their hottest temperature in recorded history. This breaks the record of eighteen all-time heat records in 2010 for the greatest number of such records set in one year. Also, one all-time cold temperature record has been set so far in 2016 (in Hong Kong.) "All-time" record here refers to the warmest or coldest temperature ever reliably reported in a nation or territory. The period of record varies from country to country and station to station, but it is typically a few decades to a century or more. Most nations do not maintain official databases of extreme temperature records, so the national temperature records reported here are in many cases not official. Our data source is international weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, one of the world's top climatologists, who maintains a comprehensive list of extreme temperature records for every nation in the world on his website. If you reproduce this list of extremes, please cite Maximiliano Herrera as the primary source of the weather records. Here are 2016's all-time heat and cold records as of December 1:

The Comoros: November 13, 2016, 35.6°C (96.1°F) at Hahaya Airport (tie.)
French Guiana : September 27, 2016, 38.0°C (100.3°F) at Saint Laurent du Moroni.
The Marshall Islands: August 24, 2016, 35.6°C (96.1°F) at Utirik Atoll.
The Cayman Islands (United Kingdom territory) : August 21, 2016, 34.9°C (94.8°F) at Owen International Airport (tie.)
The British Virgin Islands [United Kingdom territory]: July 22, 2016, 35.0°C (95.0°F] at Terrance B. Lettsome International Airport.
Iraq: July 22, 2016, 53.9°C (129.0°F) at Basrah.
Iran: July 22, 2016, 53.0°C (127.4°F) at Delhoran (tie.)
Kuwait : July 21, 2016, when the mercury hit 54.0°C (129.2°F) at Mitribah.
Guernsey (United Kingdom territory): July 19, 2016, 35.0°C (95°F) at the small island of Alderney (tie.)
Hong Kong Territory (China): July 9, 2016, 37.9°C (100.2°F) at Happy Valley (tie.)
Niger: June 8, 2016, 49.0°C (120.2°F) at Bilma.
Palau: June 8, 2016, 34.4°C (93.9°F) at Koror AWS (tie.)
India : May 19, 2016, 51.0°C (123.8°F) at Phalodi.
Maldives: April 30, 2016, 35.0°C (95.0°F) at Hanimaadhoo.
Thailand: April 28, 2016, 44.6°C (112.3°F) at Mae Hong Son.
Cambodia: April 15, 2016, 42.6°C (108.7°F) at Preah Vihea.
Burkina Faso: April 13, 2016, 47.5°C (117.5°F) at Dori.
Laos : April 12, 2016, 42.3°C (108.1°F) at Seno.
Vanuatu in the South Pacific: February 8, 2016, 36.2°C (97.2°F) at Lamap Malekula.
Tonga: February 1, 2016, 35.5°C (95.9°F) at Niuafoou.
Wallis and Futuna Territory (France): January 10, 35.8°C (96.4°F) at Futuna Airport.
Botswana: January 7, 2016, 43.8°C (110.8°F) at Maun.

Hong Kong Territory (China) set its all-time coldest mark on January 24, 2016, -6.0°C (21.2°F) at Tai Mo Shan (elevation 950 meters.) Tai Mo Shan has a period of record going back to 1996; the coldest temperature near sea level since record keeping began at the Hong Kong Observatory in 1884 was 0°C (32°F) on January 18, 1893.

Jeff Masters

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Reader Comments

But, but, it's cold today
When is the last time the Earth set three records in a row for global warmth?
"NOAA does not include most of the Arctic in their global analysis, while NASA does."
So for getting a more "global" picture, shouldn't we prefer the approach from NASA? After all, the Arctic is where the AGW alarm bells ring!

no mention about Otto?
while the whole country is in freeze mode..temps in Florida are almost summerlike and HUMID....mid to high 80's everywhere here
As of today
Quoting 7. LargoFl:

while the whole country is in freeze mode..temps in Florida are almost summerlike and HUMID....mid to high 80's everywhere here


It got warm and humid (60s with mid 50s dewpoints) in the DC area on Sunday after highs in the 20s Friday. A sharp cold front dropped temps 15 degrees in 20 minutes Sunday afternoon
temps on the rebound by this time tomorrow

Quoting 3. EmsiNasklug:

"NOAA does not include most of the Arctic in their global analysis, while NASA does."
So for getting a more "global" picture, shouldn't we prefer the approach from NASA? After all, the Arctic is where the AGW alarm bells ring!




This is for the 12 months ending in November:



Yep, it's warm.
mid week morning temps be reasonable for time of year

Quoting 7. LargoFl:

while the whole country is in freeze mode..temps in Florida are almost summerlike and HUMID....mid to high 80's everywhere here
I'll say. Here in Naples, it was 87 at the 3pm reading:

Doc and Bob..here is an article on CNN about GW you might like to see.................Link
Quoting 12. Misanthroptimist:



This is for the 12 months ending in November:



Yep, it's warm.


Tell that to the rest of the Country. Well below freezing for may in some cases well below zero.
It is 47 degrees and overcast in Freeport, Florida so not all of Florida is warm and humid.
Quoting 17. StormTrackerScott:



Tell that to the rest of the Country. Well below freezing for may in some cases well below zero.


Global Average
Quoting 12. Misanthroptimist:


This is for the 12 months ending in November:



Just have a look at the massive cold SST blob of meltwater off the west-antarctic peninsula. I think it tends to surpass the one off Greenland in recent years (comparing summer values, of course).
It got down to freezing last night. All these reports of warm weather are lies! Line up your scientists if you want. I've got the data.

Quoting 17. StormTrackerScott:



Tell that to the rest of the Country. Well below freezing for may in some cases well below zero.


uhh...Scott...re-read the graph man.


also I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.
Quoting 17. StormTrackerScott:



Tell that to the rest of the Country. Well below freezing for may in some cases well below zero.

You can't be serious. Please tell me you're not being serious.
Fort Myers hit 90 degrees today. The old record was 88 degrees.

Official numbers from Page Field - The official Reporting Station

19 15:53 E 5 10.00 Fair CLR 90 67 47% NA 93 30.22 1023.6
19 14:53 NE 8 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT044 90 69 50% NA 95 30.22 1023.6

Quoting 22. CraigsIsland:



uhh...Scott...re-read the graph man.


also I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.


No, I wasn't I was just stating the last few days. What Doc said though is correct November was a very warm month.
Quoting 23. ACSeattle:


You can't be serious. Please tell me you're not being serious.


Oh boy I was joking. Doc was referring to November which he was correct about. I was referring to recent trends.
Quoting 25. Sfloridacat5:

Fort Myers hit 90 degrees today. The old record was 88 degrees.

Official numbers from Page Field - The official Reporting Station

19 15:53 E 5 10.00 Fair CLR 90 67 47% NA 93 30.22 1023.6
19 14:53 NE 8 10.00 Partly Cloudy SCT044 90 69 50% NA 95 30.22 1023.6




88.6 here in Longwood to be exact with a 70 dewpoint. Very hot!
Quoting 21. bappit:

It got down to freezing last night. All these reports of warm weather are lies! Line up your scientists if you want. I've got the data.




My December tomato crop in the Mid Atlantic has failed. Guess things aren't warming. And I haven't had to use the AC this December. So of course.. what's the worry?????

Actually despite the freeze (which produced breezy temps in the low teens), my exposed broccoli, spinach, carrots, and brussels sprouts survived. Only lettuce was killed. Greens through the end of the year now look likely. Key survival factor was probably no rapid thaw under sun because it stayed below freezing for the 60 hour duration, then a slow thaw under accumulated freezing rain glaze. Rapid warming happened at night after temps had already warmed above freezing for twelve hours.
"Earth on Pace For Its Warmest Year on Record". You must be kidding me!?

You know what this is? It’s a snowball, just from outside here. So it’s very, very cold out.

As we can see with the snowball out there, this is today. This is reality. So, Dr. Masters, catch this!


Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.)
Quoting 27. StormTrackerScott:



No, I wasn't I was just stating the last few days. What Doc said though is correct November was a very warm month.


That's not November.

That graph quoted is for 2016. The graph in the blog post is November.
Wonder why Bolivia was so cold. Anyone know?
Quoting 35. Xandra:

"Earth on Pace For Its Warmest Year on Record". You must be kidding me!?

You know what this is? It’s a snowball, just from outside here. So it’s very, very cold out.

As we can see with the snowball out there, this is today. This is reality. So, Dr. Masters, catch this!


Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.)

Are you being sarcastic?
From The Hill:

Obama issues mining rule despite Trump’s threat to repeal it



The Obama administration issued a controversial coal mining regulation Monday that President-elect Donald Trump has promised to repeal.

Finalized with barely more than a month left in Obama’s presidency, the Interior Department’s Stream Protection Rule aims to prevent or mitigate harm to streams and other waterways from mountaintop removal mining, among other mining practices.

It updates three-decades old standards with new requirements for how mining companies test and monitor streams and new standards for how they must restore the waterways that they damage and more.

During the presidential campaign, Trump labeled the rule as part of President Obama’s “war on coal” and promised to undo it.

The mining industry and congressional Republicans say the rule is completely unnecessary and a waste of federal resources that would devastate the coal industry.

But that didn’t stop the administration from going forward with a rule they have been working on for eight years, one of the first environmental regulatory efforts Obama undertook.

“The responsible rule released today represents a modern and balanced approach to meeting the nation’s energy needs,” Interior Secretary Sally Jewell said in a statement.

“Regulations need to keep pace with modern mining practices, so we worked closely with many stakeholders to craft a plan that protects water quality, supports economic opportunities, safeguards our environment and makes coalfield communities more resilient for a diversified economic future.”

Read more >>
Quoting 40. all4hurricanes:


Are you being sarcastic?

;)
Quoting 7. LargoFl:

while the whole country is in freeze mode..temps in Florida are almost summerlike and HUMID....mid to high 80's everywhere here


Almost? It is summerlike.
Quoting 39. LAbonbon:

Wonder why Bolivia was so cold. Anyone know?


"Drunken Jet Stream"
You wrote, regarding StormTrackerScott's post 17:

Quoting 23. ACSeattle:


You can't be serious. Please tell me you're not being serious.


Some advice: Don't feed the AGW trolls; just put them on ignore and enjoy the blog.
48. vis0
is fig1(this blogbyte #3527) loading for others?
Quoting 33. georgevandenberghe:
My December tomato crop in the Mid Atlantic has failed. Guess things aren't warming. And I haven't had to use the AC this December. So of course.. what's the worry?????

Actually despite the freeze (which produced breezy temps in the low teens), my exposed broccoli, spinach, carrots, and brussels sprouts survived. Only lettuce was killed. Greens through the end of the year now look likely. Key survival factor was probably no rapid thaw under sun because it stayed below freezing for the 60 hour duration, then a slow thaw under accumulated freezing rain glaze. Rapid warming happened at night after temps had already warmed above freezing for twelve hours.
Horticulture is interesting stuff. How some plants can't tolerate less than 40F, for instance.

Read a nice article on the Brownsville NWS site about a damaging freeze that happened because of evaporational cooling of the plants. The nearby air temp never got that cold. Not sure that article is still there with the recent revamping of NWS web sites.
Quoting 48. vis0:

is fig1(this blogbyte #3527) loading for others?


Yes
From Planet Experts:

OPINION

DECEMBER 19, 2016

I’m a Scientist Who Has Gotten Death Threats. I Fear What May Happen Under Trump

BY: MICHAEL MANN

Michael E. Mann is a professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State University. He co-authored, with Washington Post cartoonist Tom Toles, “The Madhouse Effect: How Climate Change Denial Is Threatening Our Planet, Destroying Our Politics, and Driving Us Crazy.”

[...]

We are afraid that four (possibly eight) years of denial and delay might commit the planet to not just feet, but yards, of sea level rise, massive coastal flooding (made worse by more frequent Katrina and Sandy-like storms), historic deluges, and summer after summer of devastating heat and drought across the country.

We also fear an era of McCarthyist attacks on our work and our integrity. It’s easy to envision, because we’ve seen it all before. We know we could be hauled into Congress to face hostile questioning from climate change deniers. We know we could be publicly vilified by politicians. We know we could be at the receiving end of federal subpoenas demanding our personal emails. We know we could see our research grants audited or revoked.

I faced all of those things a decade ago, the last time Republicans had full control of our government.

[...]

And then there have been the threats of violence. I’ve received email warnings that “the public will come after you,” suggesting that I’ll find myself “six feet under” and hoping to read that I had “committed suicide.”

Such threats could spike again under a president and Congress hostile to climate science. As we’ve seen recently, a segment of Americans is receptive to fake news, and some are eager to act on it. Wild conspiracy theories have propelled a woman to make death threats against the parent of a child killed at Sandy Hook Elementary and motivated a man to discharge an assault rifle in a family pizza restaurant in Washington.

I fear the chill that could descend. I worry especially that younger scientists might be deterred from going into climate research (or any topic where scientific findings can prove inconvenient to powerful vested interests). As someone who has weathered many attacks, I would urge these scientists to have courage.

The fate of the planet hangs in the balance.

Read complete opinion piece >>
From Politico:

Trump private security force ‘playing with fire’

The president-elect continues to employ a battalion of retired cops and FBI agents to protect him and clamp down on protesters.

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — President-elect Donald Trump has continued employing a private security and intelligence team at his victory rallies, and he is expected to keep at least some members of the team after he becomes president, according to people familiar with the plans.

The arrangement represents a major break from tradition. All modern presidents and presidents-elect have entrusted their personal security entirely to the Secret Service, and their event security mostly to local law enforcement, according to presidential security experts and Secret Service sources.

But Trump — who puts a premium on loyalty and has demonstrated great interest in having forceful security at his events — has opted to maintain an aggressive and unprecedented private security force, led by Keith Schiller, a retired New York City cop and Navy veteran who started working for Trump in 1999 as a part-time bodyguard, eventually rising to become his head of security.

Security officials warn that employing private security personnel heightens risks for the president-elect and his team, as well as for protesters, dozens of whom have alleged racial profiling, undue force or aggression at the hands of Trump’s security, with at least 10 joining a trio of lawsuits now pending against Trump, his campaign or its security.

“It’s playing with fire,” said Jonathan Wackrow, a former Secret Service agent who worked on President Barack Obama’s protective detail during his 2012 reelection campaign. Having a private security team working events with Secret Service “increases the Service’s liability, it creates greater confusion and it creates greater risk,” Wackrow said.

“You never want to commingle a police function with a private security function,” he said, adding, “If you talk to the guys on the detail and the guys who are running the rallies, that’s been a little bit difficult because it’s so abnormal.”

Read more >>
55. bwi
Christmas storm forecasts drifting further and further north. GFS 18z now has the low progged to go from extreme NE Colorado into northern Minnesota. Another follow-up storm on a similar track later in the week.

That storm track portends very nice weather along the East Coast, I predict.


Does nuclear winter count as geoengineering? If so, there seems to be a good chance that Trump will reduce global warming after all.
Engineering is the process of applying scientific knowledge to solving problems. Unless we create a nuclear winter for the purpose of reducing the earth's temperature, a nuclear winter would not be geoengineering.

It is a mistake to confuse environmental disruption/degradation with geoengineering.
Regarding post 52:

It's a game of hardball, to be sure.

I just saw the film "Ms Sloan", (it is about a high-powered lobbyist) and I saw it with a state-level lobbyist. He thought it was over the the top, but I think that it was a realistic portrayal of how Public Relations Operators and shrewd lobbyists work (my friend is smart, but not that shrewd). I recommend the film as an introduction to the tactics that the ACC-awareness opposition is using, and further more recommend any of Eddie Bernays' books (Crystalizing Public Opinion; Propaganda) if you want to learn how to counter the assault on science and scientists. (*) That's just a start. A revisit to Dr. Masters' blog a few years back on how the PR operators supported the tobacco industry (I don't have a link, sorry) will also help to estimate the operators we are up against.

I have read a fair amount on this subject, and operators will sometimes (depends on how motivated they are) strike at every level: ruin marriages, steal identities, calumny, the list goes on. It's ugly to contemplate, and I do NOT want to instigate a sense of fear. That would be counter-productive. You scientists are, by definition, smart. Where you educate yourselves to their methods, you are less liable to be the victim of them. And it does seem to be that a battle of wits is on. Like it or not, you apparently are going to have to learn to be 'warriors'. If you are not up to it, ally yourself with some one who can, or bond with a good lawyer.


*I receive no compensation for spamming these works. The film, I think, is pretty good, and I will likely see it twice. The books were written by a fellow long dead, a nephew of Freud, and the founder of 'Public Relations', and if I remember correctly, a senior Nazi official (Geobbles? something like that) was a big fan of his thinking. Pretty spooky reading.
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Very sad day for many. :-( You've got the variety of today's troubling and horrifying news (esp. Berlin), I guess, and I won't delve into it in here ...

Meanwhile the cyclone in the western Mediterranean in developing, as predicted:


Updating IR loop.

Downpours, storms, and snow put parts of France on alert
The Local (France), 19 December 2016


Surface map for tomorrow with a another huge low over Iceland and the unnamed storm in the Mediterranean. Source.

Stay safe and strong, folks. And a good night.
Quoting 47. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:




TP, for toilet paper :)
Very high pressure here again..30.64 inches..23 degrees..Wind north at 11 mph...Well below normal for this time of year.
63. vis0
The image problem i mentioned in an earlier comment MY FAULT had a full block on GIFs,  oops.

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image credit::
NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) (should it not point to November 2016 instead of October 2016 as posted in this comment)

also interested in western central Bolivian area...real or senors fall into a cave...ice from mountain melted onto readouts???


clipper time
I hope this is not right and the gfs has another one 5 days later

Saturday
12/24

Saturday Night 80 % Precip. / < 1 in
Cloudy with snow showers developing after midnight. Low 11F. Winds ENE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 80%. Snow accumulations less than one inch.

Sunday
12/25
22 | 10 F
Sunday 80 % Precip. / 5-8 in
Watching a potential winter storm. Snow likely. High 22F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 80%. Snow accumulating 5 to 8 inches.

Sunday Night 80 % Precip. / 8-12 in
Snow likely. Low around 10F. Winds NNE at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 80%. 8 to 12 inches of snow expected.

Monday
12/26
11 | -4 F
Monday 70 % Precip. / 1-3 in
Snow during the morning will give way to lingering snow showers during the afternoon. High 11F. Winds NW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 70%. 1 to 3 inches of snow expected.

We now return you to your normal political drivel
I hate snow its white and on my land
sorry I just had to go with it lol
Little disagreement within the NWS on Twitter:

Quoting 66. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

I hate snow its white and on my land

Pee on it, see if it turns yellow. Let me know.
code orange
“In the case of the president, he has a broad ability to organize the White House the way he wants to. He also has, frankly, the power of the pardon,” Gingrich said. “It’s a totally open power. He could simply say, ‘Look, I want them to be my advisers. I pardon them if anyone finds them to have behaved against the rules. Period. Technically, under the Constitution, he has that level of authority.”

Are you f£%#?¥ kidding me?
Quoting 74. washingaway:

“In the case of the president, he has a broad ability to organize the White House the way he wants to. He also has, frankly, the power of the pardon,” Gingrich said. “It’s a totally open power. He could simply say, ‘Look, I want them to be my advisers. I pardon them if anyone finds them to have behaved against the rules. Period. Technically, under the Constitution, he has that level of authority.”

Are you f£%#?¥ kidding me?
No, he's not.
with great power comes great responsibility

Quoting 77. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

with great power comes great responsibility



Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Oh the good ole days of the cold war fallout shelter. Let's make America great again! Makes me feel all warm inside.

What's the point of having nukes if you're not going to use them, right?
SOUTHWEST FLORIDA -
Southwest Florida hit an all-time high Monday of 91 degrees while the rest of the country deals with sub-freezing temperatures. The disparity in temperatures is bringing travelers to the area.
How to successfully duck hunt.
Quoting 81. washingaway:

Oh the good ole days of the cold war fallout shelter. Let's make America great again! Makes me feel all warm inside.

What's the point of having nukes if you're not going to use them, right?



i still have mine. I've been thinking of getting it wired for cable. You never know
Just three more days till Festivus. A time to air your grievances.
Quoting 88. Grothar:



i still have mine. I've been thinking of getting it wired for cable. You never know


Do not forget Wi-Fi.
Quoting 88. Grothar:



i still have mine. I've been thinking of getting it wired for cable. You never know

You will probably have to do with ham radio, which is fun, considering you're in a fallout shelter.
Quoting 90. SunnyDaysFla:



Do not forget Wi-Fi.


That's already in. I couldn't go 6 months without talking to you guys.
Quoting 66. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

I hate snow its white and on my land

I mostly like snow. It is rare enough here in the Willamette Valley that it's fun when we get it. Some years we don't get any and occasionally we'll get 2 or 3 notable snowfalls but most of the time it clears up enough after 3 or 4 days and isn't a problem. It doesn't bother me a lot because I have plenty of experience driving in it having been a ski bum in the 1980s and my second car is a big 4wd SUV with mud & snow tires.

What I hate is ice storms. Fortunately they are rarer than snow storms but that's what they had down in Eugene, OR last week while we had had snow in Salem.
Quoting 92. Grothar:



That's already in. I couldn't go 6 months without talking to you guys.

I live about 15 miles or so from CentCom. Considering that is probably a premier target, I need not worry about anything.
A fallout shelter design with a pool. Brilliant! Note the green water.
Quoting 95. washingaway:

A fallout shelter design with a pool. Brilliant! Note the green water.



And it will glow in the dark right?
Quoting 96. SunnyDaysFla:



And it will glow in the dark right?

Yes. The children too will glow, that's how you light the shelter.
A must-read piece by Alex Steffen.

From Medium:

Trump, Putin and the Pipelines to Nowhere

You can’t understand what Trump’s doing to America without understanding the “Carbon Bubble”

"It is not hyperbole to say that swelling the Carbon Bubble is not only not in the interests of the United States, it increases threats to our economy and national security, puts Americans at risk, undermines our prosperity and weakens our nation. It’s hard to call defending high carbon interests anything but unpatriotic."

Bernie Sanders:
‏@SenSanders

Mr. Trump may not know it, and his cabinet may not know it, but the debate about climate change is over.


A guide to the men on Trump's cabinet who have vowed to reverse climate change progress.

The United States of Climate Change Denial

Donald Trump has promised to unleash an energy revolution by extracting billions of dollars in untapped fossil fuels and gutting incentives to invest in renewable energy. With the nominations of Rex Tillerson, Scott Pruitt, Ryan Zinke, and Rick Perry to his Cabinet, the President-elect is poised to do more damage to America’s environmental legacy—and future—than any other leader in recent memory.

Despite Trump’s untraditional approach to choosing Cabinet officials, nothing about their nomination is accidental. Each of them offers a range of qualifications and connections that, together, form a unified front against climate progress, human health, and energy security.
Enjoy the top 16 images of Earth taken by NASA astronauts in 2016

By Lee Roop

Have about 3 minutes? Put on your headphones and enjoy the top 16 photographs astronauts took of Earth from space this year. Compiled by the Earth Science and Remote Sensing unit at Johnson Space Center, they are set to music and guaranteed to lower your Christmas week stress.

Quoting 81. washingaway:

Oh the good ole days of the cold war fallout shelter. Let's make America great again! Makes me feel all warm inside.

What's the point of having nukes if you're not going to use them, right?

The problem is, can the other side deliver them to their targets, think about it, think about it really hard, not.
Quoting 94. SunnyDaysFla:


I live about 15 miles or so from CentCom. Considering that is probably a premier target, I need not worry about anything.
Very true if they ever get to their target.
Quoting 96. SunnyDaysFla:



And it will glow in the dark right?
Yes the pool seems to have the modern LED lights in it, but still can't figure out why you need an underground pool, their warheads will never reach us.
From the Guardian:

Arctic ice melt 'already affecting weather patterns where you live right now'

Soaring Arctic temperatures ‘strongly linked’ to recent extreme weather events, say scientists at cutting edge of climate change research

The dramatic melting of Arctic ice is already driving extreme weather that affects hundreds of millions of people across North America, Europe and Asia, leading climate scientists have told the Guardian.

Severe “snowmageddon” winters are now strongly linked to soaring polar temperatures, say researchers, with deadly summer heatwaves and torrential floods also probably linked. The scientists now fear the Arctic meltdown has kickstarted abrupt changes in the planet’s swirling atmosphere, bringing extreme weather in heavily populated areas to the boil.

[...]

Another consequence of the fast melting Arctic raises the possibility that there may be even worse extreme weather to come, according to a few scientists: titanic Atlantic superstorms and hurricanes barreling across Europe.

The melting of Greenland ice is pouring about 250bn tonnes a year of fresh water, which is less dense than salty sea water, into the ocean. As a result, the water mass sinks less and the current that drags warm water up the Atlantic is weakened – scientists have already found that the current is at its weakest for a millennium.

This means a region of the north Atlantic is becoming relatively cool and this exaggerates the contrast with tropical waters to the south, which is the driver for storms. In the worst case scenario, said the renowned climate scientist Prof James Hansen, this “will drive superstorms, stronger than any in modern times – all hell will break loose in the north Atlantic and neighbouring lands”.

Hansen– who was one of the first scientists to alert the world to the dangers of climate change in 1988 and has been arrested more than once outside the White House while protesting against fossil fuel developments – pointed to the historical record as a precedent: 118,000 years ago a superstorm tossed 1,000-tonne mega boulders on to the shores of the Bahamas.

“I would certainly not call such [superstorm] scenarios ridiculous,” said Coumou. “But it is speculative – we don’t have the hard evidence.”

But even with what is known so far, there is cause for concern that the complex interactions are turning the slow burn of global temperature rise into sudden weather disasters.

“The worrying aspect is that such dynamical changes can occur more abruptly than simple background warming of the climate,” said Coumou. “Dynamical changes can change more rapidly and can therefore lead to surprises and I think there are many such possibilities in the system.”

“A large fraction of the US public still doesn’t believe that it is humans that are affecting the climate system,” said Francis. “But one of the silver linings of this pretty dark cloud is that the Arctic is such an obvious and conspicuous change, that anybody can see them happening. There is no ambiguity whatsoever.”

But this changing of minds needs to happen quickly, said Hansen: “If we wait for the natural world to reveal itself clearly, it may be too late.”

Click here to read full article
Quoting 78. washingaway:


Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Power merely presents opportunity to the corruption that already exists. Since most people are corrupt...

Not me, of course.
Quoting 86. swflurker:

SOUTHWEST FLORIDA -
Southwest Florida hit an all-time high Monday of 91 degrees while the rest of the country deals with sub-freezing temperatures. The disparity in temperatures is bringing travelers to the area.


Temperature is all relative. It is amazing how warm 32 F feels after experiencing 1 F.
From today's Guardian:

Republicans and Democrats alike want more clean energy
A new report finds strong support for clean energy, international climate agreements, and cutting carbon pollution - across the political spectrum

John Abraham, Tuesday 20 December 2016 06.00 EST

It’s almost an accepted dogma that in the United States (and in several other countries), liberals are much more in favor of taking actions to curb climate change whereas conservatives block such actions. That’s certainly true within the halls of power. For instance, in the United States, it has become a litmus test for Republication candidates to deny humans are causing climate change, to try to claim that it isn’t important, in many cases to demonize the messengers (the scientists), and to work to halt climate science so we won’t know how bad the problem is.

Conventional wisdom – and in fact the seemingly obvious message from this past election – is that this denial is good politics. If you want to get elected as a conservative, you have got to be anti-science.

But perhaps what we thought was so just isn’t. A fascinating study was just released by Yale and George Mason Universities that involved a national survey of American opinions. What this survey found was astonishing. Almost 70% of registered voters in the U.S. believe that their country should participate in international agreements to limit global warming. Only 1 in 8 registered voters believe the U.S. should not participate in such agreements. Similarly, 70% of respondents support limits on carbon dioxide, the most important human-emitted heat trapping gas.


Full article
Quoting 106. NativeSun:

Yes the pool seems to have the modern LED lights in it, but still can't figure out why you need an underground pool, their warheads will never reach us.
well think about, being trapped in that bunker for many months,where would you bathe?
Re: #109 - bjrabbit - that's a pretty strong, and patently wrong, accusation. A statement accusing the blog author of spreading fake news is serious, and shouldn't be made without pretty darn good evidence. Without such evidence, it's nothing more than a libelous internet falsehood.
Quoting 113. LargoFl:

well think about, being trapped in that bunker for many months,where would you bathe?
Why is every one so gloom and doom on this blog, their will not be a nuclear war, humans are pretty stupid, but not that stupid, and besides a nuclear warhead will never reach U.S. soil.
Quoting 98. Xandra:

A must-read piece by Alex Steffen.

From Medium:

Trump, Putin and the Pipelines to Nowhere

You can%u2019t understand what Trump%u2019s doing to America without understanding the %u201CCarbon Bubble%u201D

"It is not hyperbole to say that swelling the Carbon Bubble is not only not in the interests of the United States, it increases threats to our economy and national security, puts Americans at risk, undermines our prosperity and weakens our nation. It%u2019s hard to call defending high carbon interests anything but unpatriotic."




A good read. A thoughtful analysis (opens a PDF) from within your link regarding future risks faced by fossil fuel industries.

Helps clarify some of the "fossil-fuel" wars current being waged among IOC's and state-controlled producers of oil. Although the IOCs won't admit it, they see the hand-writing on the wall.

Outside of fossil-fuel industry insiders, coal is "dead", oil will decline, and renewable energies will be investments for the long-term growth.

Other countries - China and Saudi Arabia - know this and are adapting with long-term strategies to move away from fossil fuels. Market forces in the US, as costs of battery storage and non-carbon based generation of power continue to decline, will in the long-term push power suppliers to cleaner sources of energy.

The US, under the current administration, is shaping up to be a huge "bailout" for fossil fuel businesses and only a delay of the inevitable. A short-term, last gasp, of a dying industry. As bad as it may be, economics will prevail in the end.
Hi Guys I just saw that I had many e-mails from you guys. For whatever reason my e-mail weren't showing up for month so now I am getting e-mails back from several months ago. So If I didn't reply now you know why. Anyways we had some hefty thunderstorms yesterday evening across the interior of Central Florida infact I picked up .29" while areas west toward Lake Apopka picked up nearly 3" and Orlando International picked up 1.49". So there was a lot of rain in places last night. that rain came with a lot of lightning as well.

Quoting 49. bappit:

Horticulture is interesting stuff. How some plants can't tolerate less than 40F, for instance.

Read a nice article on the Brownsville NWS site about a damaging freeze that happened because of evaporational cooling of the plants. The nearby air temp never got that cold. Not sure that article is still there with the recent revamping of NWS web sites.


Evaporational cooling can make freezes much worse. In mild freeze conditions and with radiation frost, turning on the sprinklers at night keeps plant tissue at the melting point of 32F and protects from freezing. But in cold dry conditions ice accretion on plants can break limbs. More important though is what happens if the sprinklers fail or are turned off too early. Plant tissue then cools to the wet bulb temperature which in advective freezes with large dewpoint depressions and dewpoints near 0F. is lower than the sensible temperature. Florida citrus growers found this out in the December 1962 freeze where unsprinkled trees were moderately damaged while sprinkled trees were killed. If a grower chooses to use sprinklers they MUST stay on until wet bulb temperatures go over the damage threshold for plants, typically somewhere in the 20s to around freezing.

Some tropical plants are killed by the disruption of respiration when temperatures go below 55F or so. And many fruits (banannas and tomatoes for example) lose a lot of quality or are ruined when they are refrigerated.


I can grow citrus in DC because citrus tolerates long periods (weeks) at near freezing temperatures. It overwinters in my unheated garage and does not need light because respiration is almost nil. But I don't grow mangoes or coffee or banannas because they need continued warmth and with the warmth comes a requirement for strong sun which I don't have in winter.
Quoting 108. Misanthroptimist:


Power merely presents opportunity to the corruption that already exists. Since most people are corrupt...

Not me, of course.


Both parties are corrupt in their own ways. We need a government that can work together to solve our everyday issues instead of fighting and blocking key legislation.
Quoting 118. StormTrackerScott:

Hi Guys I just saw that I had many e-mails from you guys. For whatever reason my e-mail weren't showing up for month so now I am getting e-mails back from several months ago. So If I didn't reply now you know why. Anyways we had some hefty thunderstorms yesterday evening across the interior of Central Florida infact I picked up .29" while areas west toward Lake Apopka picked up nearly 3" and Orlando International picked up 1.49". So there was a lot of rain in places last night. that rain came with a lot of lightning as well.




I find this more remarkable than the high temperatures of the past two weeks. Amazing you can get summerlike thunderstorms in the low sun dry season.
Quoting 122. georgevandenberghe:



I find this more remarkable than the high temperatures of the past two weeks. Amazing you can get summerlike thunderstorms in the low sun dry season.


I expected some pop up showers yes but the heat was so intense that it caused a summertime set up with seabreeze collisions over Lake County which drifted SE toward Orlando. The lighting was very intense for awhile and nearly every second around 7:30pm yesterday over toward Apopka
.03" in 66 days here in Fort Myers
91 degrees yesterday (old record 88 degrees)

We need rain.
Quoting 112. LAbonbon:

From today's Guardian:

Republicans and Democrats alike want more clean energy
A new report finds strong support for clean energy, international climate agreements, and cutting carbon pollution - across the political spectrum


I don't doubt the findings. The problem is that those same people don't vote that way. They vote on, "He's an outsider who will shake things up (9.0 earthquakes shake things up too)" or "I just don't trust her". Maybe the issue can be approached by referenda, which most states allow, so the voters can clearly express themselves on this issue. But unless a large number of voters are willing to make this the determinant issue (like the way anti-abortion voters make that their main or only issue) then the politicians won't listen.
Quoting 115. NativeSun:

Why is every one so gloom and doom on this blog, their will not be a nuclear war, humans are pretty stupid, but not that stupid, and besides a nuclear warhead will never reach U.S. soil.
I hope you're right. But the guy about to be sworn in has twitter meltdowns when, say, some food critic gives one of his restaurants a less-than-glowing review, or a newspaper legally prints a snippet of an old tax return of his. Let's just all hope he grows up and can be taught a little restraint between now and January 20...
From Radio New Zealand:

Stranded islanders running out of food in Fiji floods
10:40 pm on 20 December 2016

About 1000 villagers stranded on their island in Fiji's Rewa River delta say they are running out of food after six days of constant rain and rising floodwaters. Full article
Quoting 128. Neapolitan:

I hope you're right. But the guy about to be sworn in has twitter meltdowns when, say, some food critic gives one of his restaurants a less-than-glowing review, or a newspaper legally prints a snippet of an old tax return of his. Let's just all hope he grows up and can be taught a little restraint between now and January 20...


Nea, you and I can disagree at times but I do agree with you about his twitter usage. Personally I think he will do great things but he does have to be more composed.
Quoting 126. Sfloridacat5:

.03" in 66 days here in Fort Myers
91 degrees yesterday (old record 88 degrees)

We need rain.


We had some impressive thunderstorms that formed from seabreeze collisions and a weak front moving south. Some areas picked up some very impressive totals infact 3 months worth of rain in areas while some places got nothing. Lots of non stop lightning for awhile too.
soooo. if you believe man made global warming is possible then you cant be on Trumps staff
Tuesday.

Wunderful Tuesday.


Try the Phish.

: )
Quoting 104. NativeSun:

The problem is, can the other side deliver them to their targets, think about it, think about it really hard, not.


does it really matter? if there is push the red button occurrence. youll wish you were dead
When Gro and I were in Norway with NATO in 84 ..the USMC Showed us NCO's the US Nuke targets footprints.

If anyone doubts the USSR's ability to end the US in a Afternoon,..well..just know that from Venice,La..to Baton Rouge..there are 70 targets.






Quoting 100. Xandra:

A guide to the men on Trump's cabinet who have vowed to reverse climate change progress.

The United States of Climate Change Denial

Donald Trump has promised to unleash an energy revolution by extracting billions of dollars in untapped fossil fuels and gutting incentives to invest in renewable energy. With the nominations of Rex Tillerson, Scott Pruitt, Ryan Zinke, and Rick Perry to his Cabinet, the President-elect is poised to do more damage to America’s environmental legacy—and future—than any other leader in recent memory.

Despite Trump’s untraditional approach to choosing Cabinet officials, nothing about their nomination is accidental. Each of them offers a range of qualifications and connections that, together, form a unified front against climate progress, human health, and energy security.

Quoting 128. Neapolitan:

I hope you're right. But the guy about to be sworn in has twitter meltdowns when, say, some food critic gives one of his restaurants a less-than-glowing review, or a newspaper legally prints a snippet of an old tax return of his. Let's just all hope he grows up and can be taught a little restraint between now and January 20...


Quoting 130. StormTrackerScott:



Nea, you and I can disagree at times but I do agree with you about his twitter usage. Personally I think he will do great things but he does have to be more composed.


Well, we can always hope. Luckily, we can always check too: Trump Twitter Archive
Quoting 139. daddyjames:





Well, we can always hope. Luckily, we can always check too: Trump Twitter Archive



Can we please go back to talking about the climate and weather, like we used to? I really liked this weather blog but now I almost dread reading it because of all the "doom and gloom" and unnecessary comments about the PEOTUS. Can we just pick up where we left off and move on instead of dwelling on so many depressing thoughts? Thank you.

Concerning the weather here in the SE, it is rather comfortable. 43 degrees here in the Piedmont of SC. Hopefully, we will see some winter weather this coming season, even though there is a weak La Nina in place.
RE: Post 124

I was unaware that an expression of empathy was a "Violation of Community Standards".
For that matter, you may as well block out the reply in comment 125 - where 124 was quoted - so as the purge of the violation is complete.
Quoting 106. NativeSun:

Yes the pool seems to have the modern LED lights in it, but still can't figure out why you need an underground pool, their warheads will never reach us.

You seem to think the only way to deliver a nuclear warhead is to mount it on a rocket. Things are very different now, cargo ships from around the world come here. A nuke doesn't have to look like a bomb or be mounted on a rocket. It wouldn't even have to be unloaded from the ship, it could be triggered with a GPS system. Furthermore, if one came in this way, it would be a "who done it" kind of thing. So when you speak of the other side not having the capability to reach us, who is the other side that you speak of? So, you think about it real hard and remember the 9/11 attacks and how they reached there targets. Scary isn't it?
145. bwi
Keeping an eye on the data. The Antarctic is behaving weirdly this summer (for them), but the trends in the Arctic are very steady. A couple decent refreeze days this week and we have a chance of catching up with 2011 for lowest sea ice extent for a while. Given how warm it has been, and the projection of more Atlantic storms, I'm thinking we'll stay in or near record territory despite the Pacific side finally starting to freeze.

Quote:
136. Patrap
4:31 PM GMT on December 20, 2016

Dis Guy",,..sheesh,
LoL

That Drone Skirmish With China? It Was Over Before Donald Trump's First Mean Tweet.

The president-elect would have known this if he'd taken his presidential briefing that morning before tweeting. 12/20/2016 10:14 am ET | Updated 59 minutes ago 




Reply:


"His reputation precedes him"...


It means that everybody knows about him -- his good points and his bad points -- long before they actually meet him in person, because everybody has been talking about him and relaying information about him, possibly in anticipation of meeting him...
Quoting 143. Patrap:




And lest we forget, Energy was one of the departments Perry wanted to eliminate (providing he could remember it).

Trump said he'd have "the best people." Remember that? And Perry's not even the worst. Anti-Science at EPA, Interior, State, and Education. This is an abomination.
RE: Post 124.

Although, placing the

"This comment has been removed for violating the Community Standards."

is better method than simply deleting remarks/posts from the blog. An indication that a post had been made, and then removed, is definitely a better alternative than simply deleting the entire post.

I would encourage that this continue - as it is a better method to keep a record of contributors that violate the community standards on a regular basis. Unfortunately, I happen to be the first one.
C'est la vie.
Only the poster of the removed comment sees that.

Not all members do.

FYI
Quoting 149. Patrap:

Only the poster of the removed comment sees that.

Not all members do.

FYI


It should be there for everyone to see. I recommend that be changed for posterity.
I concur.




Mobile, Ala., residents fume after city takes park tree for Trump rally

By The Washington Post
on December 20, 2016 at 8:57 AM, updated December 20, 2016 at 9:16 AM

On the day leading up to the final rally of Donald Trump's "thank you" tour, city officials in Mobile, Alabama. raved about its plans for a festive, Christmas welcome for the president-elect. The mayor's chief of staff tweeted that the city "did the impossible," erecting and decorating a 50-foot Christmas tree as a backdrop for Trump's speech.

But some Mobile residents soon speculated that the majestic cedar tree was one they had seen before, AL.com reported. Just over a mile away from the stadium where Trump would speak, in a public park, a massive cedar tree was gone.

As skeptical residents raised questions with the mayor, city officials confirmed that indeed, the tree had been removed from Public Safety Memorial Park and taken to Ladd-Peebles Stadium. In emails and across social media, residents erupted in outrage.


"Our city parks aren't Christmas tree farms," one woman said she wrote in an email to Mobile Mayor Sandy Stimpson. "An old growth tree from a city park for backdrop? Insane."

In an initial statement, Colby Cooper, the chief of staff for the city, lauded the city's efforts, saying "A Christmas Tree was needed and the City provided it," AL.com reported. But on Sunday, following public criticism, the chief of staff issued an apology for his role, saying he became "overzealous" in making sure "every detail was covered and the expectations" of Trump's team were exceeded ahead of Saturday's televised rally.

"I now know there are citizens who are upset and offended that a tree from a City park was used as part of the decorations for the event," Cooper wrote on Facebook.

"For this, I sincerely apologize. Going forward, I will be more sensitive to the spectrum of concerns regarding trees."

much more:....
daddyjames - just know that you're not alone; a good number of us have been there ;)

Speaking of...hoping to see elioe back soon. I like his posts - they tend to create an interesting dialogue on the blog.

Quoting 135. boandjoe:



does it really matter? if there is push the red button occurrence. youll wish you were dead
Not if the war heads never make it.
Its sooo cold in Chicago that.............................................. ...........................
Quoting 154. StormTrackerScott:






Well if post 124 was a violation of community standards, this seems like it would be.

Why are you so defensive - it was nothing about Trump, and all about the city "acquiring" a locally grown Christmas tree.
Quoting 143. Patrap:


Well, he also had that Dancing With The Stars gig; that surely conferred upon him the proper amount of gravitas.



Department of Energy? Sure! Why, just look at all that energy!
Quoting 148. daddyjames:
RE: Post 124.

Although, placing the

"This comment has been removed for violating the Community Standards."

is better method than simply deleting remarks/posts from the blog. An indication that a post had been made, and then removed, is definitely a better alternative than simply deleting the entire post.

I would encourage that this continue - as it is a better method to keep a record of contributors that violate the community standards on a regular basis. Unfortunately, I happen to be the first one.
C'est la vie.
Eh, community standards are a funny thing. Lots of bickering occurs that never gets removed. Also, I have seen a comment get removed maliciously--not on this blog.

It is better to remove comments silently as if they never existed. For one thing, putting up a notice for all to see that a comment violated community standards when in fact it had not would be an instance of slander. Also, the people whose comments get deleted often could like the notoriety. The less fuss the better.
If you all thought the other candidate was going to be your fairy god mother. ......lol.
Quoting 160. washingtonian115:

If you all thought the other candidate was going to be your fairy god mother. ......lol.


I was not in the market for a fairy godmother. I am currently in the market for the world's largest butterfly net.
Quoting 156. LargoFl:

Its sooo cold in Chicago that.............................................. ...........................


I have a small cockapoo (cockerXpoodle) that needs these even in the mild DC winters. This dog reminds
me of her.

I have had dogs disappear completely into the snow in DC also (always recovered.. no serious threat). We do get
occasional serious dumps! The 1979 dump where a 20 pound poodle was JUST able to get her nose above the surface standing on hind legs, comes to mind. (other huge 15"+ dumps in my life occurred in 1966, 1983, 1987, 1996, 2003, 2009, 2010 and 2016 so yeah we hardly ever get decent snow EXCEPT WHEN WE DO!!)

What really alarms me is all the global cooling that took place between 1850 and 1910 especially when industrialization and clear cutting of forests began. I'm glad our efforts finally made a difference.
Quoting 163. snotly:

What really alarms me is all the global cooling that took place between 1850 and 1910 especially when industrialization and clear cutting of forests began. I'm glad our efforts finally made a difference.


I think that I am going to need a bigger net. :(
Quoting 160. washingtonian115:

If you all thought the other candidate was going to be your fairy god mother. ......lol.

I was actually thinking of the other candidate as sane and competent. Seriously, I'd be very content with sane and competent right now.

Quoting 154. StormTrackerScott:



I see the retired mentality is treating you well with nothing else better to do except bash Trump every hour on the hour. Time to get over it already as yes he is "your" president now. Its to a point now that you absolutely bring nothing to the table on this blog. Maybe some substantiated post from you would be good for a change instead of all the BS and post that are irrelevant.

Anyways for a change we have had some cooler air arrive in Central Florida. Currently 66 at my location.



Somethings are more important than your local temperture. The things that Trump has said and is doing is having a "chilling effect" on many of us. Actually, and in fact, the majority of Americans.
"Giving the atmosphere and antacid" to change the earths albedo (make earth more reflective) came up in Bloomberg.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-1 2/scientists-want-to-give-the-atmosphere-an-antaci d-to-relieve-climate-change

For the hottest spots over land using reflective foil on the roof, light landscaping and paints may help. No it will not solve the problem. May not make much difference. Will not hurt and could help.

Plants and algae seem to be only cost effective ways of removing large amounts of CO2. Having passed 400 ppm line, shrinking the carbon footprint will not be enough
Quoting 154. StormTrackerScott:



I see the retired mentality is treating you well with nothing else better to do except bash Trump every hour on the hour. Time to get over it already as yes he is "your" president now. Its to a point now that you absolutely bring nothing to the table on this blog. Maybe some substantiated post from you would be good for a change instead of all the BS and post that are irrelevant.

Anyways for a change we have had some cooler air arrive in Central Florida. Currently 66 at my location.




Er, OK..

But maybe compare my actual Blog Posts to yer's here...since your a expert on content.


Seems you missed my just updated one.

Try da Phish, it is Tuesday ya know.


Patrap's wunderblog

I took a year away from writing any Patrap entries to focus on the Boys Band, Michael Liuzza and Patrick Pearson Jr.

Now that the year is almost behind us here, the Boys have steadily risen up the New Orleans French Quarter Night Life.

They now play at the House of Blues Voodoo Gardens every Tuesday evening 6-9 here.

Their view from the stage... in Wedding Private Party mode.



They also play Saturday afternoons on Frenchman St. in the Marigny, at Marigny Brasserie from 1 to 4 pm.



You can find me at either Gig as well. I surf the crowd and see things from a perspective of the customers.

In a way it is what I've been doing here the last 11 years.

This past week I travelled to San Francisco for the AGU Conference. I met and heard Dr. Michael Mann describe His e-mail BS with UVA and from His publisher and Lawyer at the Weds legal Symposium. It was very interesting to here the PHD's attending questions to them. In the end, I added the Ivor Van Heerden story at LSU post Katrina where He sued them and Won.

I think I got my point across judging by their questions to me after. Never in my life did I think 5 Phds would give me their cards and ask for the info I relayed. Seems I communicate well within their peer group, which is very surprising as that is not usually found.

Any ol hoo, Im going to delve 100% back into actively writing in this blog again.

One bad thing about taking time off from this endeavour, ...its not like riding a bicycle, as one has to write to be proficient and effective @ it.

Meeting the wunderground.com employees and getting to touch the wu server glass window was a neat experience.

It was more like family separated, by time and distance, being reunited.



All of the wu team I met seemed genuinely glad I made it there. The community here should know that there are dozens of folks working hard every day for the betterment of the globe et al.

Sharing is what made these blogs so surprising to the site founding fathers.

It is the sharing here that has made the blogs what they are today.

Relevant, informative, challenging, and equal footing to all voices.

Happy Holidays to everyone everywhere.



We all got our marks to what or who we belong
Apart we are weak but together we're strong
Don't knock one of us or we all take offence
For a quiff or a crew we can jump to defence
With the drum that you bring or the song that you sing

Tribal, oh oh oh oh





And to be sure taking care of a disabled wife is in no way any "retirement."

We call it Love.

But thanks for your collective input to my day.

Have a great Week too.

Quoting 137. Patrap:

When Gro and I were in Norway with NATO in 84 ..the USMC Showed us NCO's the US Nuke targets footprints.

If anyone doubts the USSR's ability to end the US in a Afternoon,..well..just know that from Venice,La..to Baton Rouge..there are 70 targets.









And that's what they told us. Can you imagine the information they didn't tell us???
December 23rd is Festivus y'all. A time to air your grievances. I got my pole.
Quoting 159. bappit:

Eh, community standards are a funny thing. Lots of bickering occurs that never gets removed. Also, I have seen a comment get removed maliciously--not on this blog.

It is better to remove comments silently as if they never existed. For one thing, putting up a notice for all to see that a comment violated community standards when in fact it had not would be an instance of slander. Also, the people whose comments get deleted often could like the notoriety. The less fuss the better.


Don't undermine my attempts at achieving notoriety! ;)
Quoting 137. Patrap:

When Gro and I were in Norway with NATO in 84 ..the USMC Showed us NCO's the US Nuke targets footprints.

If anyone doubts the USSR's ability to end the US in a Afternoon,..well..just know that from Venice,La..to Baton Rouge..there are 70 targets.









So looking at that map, it is official. There is absolutely nothing in Wyoming (except for sheep).
500 nukes, and not one gets sent their way.
I think the others (~ 2000) are just so they don't feel left out from the fun.

If the sirens sound, I'm running to Wyoming!
Aweak ULL West of Baja California will head NE.........a lot of mid-level moisture with it but no real trigger so to speak so maybe a little virga or light rain on the diffluent flow ahead of/Notheast of the low.

Another trof/low forecast for Fri/Sat to come through Soo Cal from the Northwest with moderate(at this time) rainfall amounts. I recieved 2.8" from last weeks storm which had orographically enhanced rainfall totals from the deep West/Southwest flow into Soo Cals peninsular mountain ranges.

I for one would be very happy to get one storm per week all winter in Soo Cal!




Jeb Bush: Scott Pruitt is ready to turn around the EPA

"The far left has tried to distort Pruitt's views in a lame attempt to make him into an anti-science boogeyman. The Scott Pruitt I know is far from it. Unlike liberals who want to shut down any rational debate about climate change, Pruitt has acknowledged human impact on the climate and supports a robust discussion about its effects and what the government should and shouldn't do to address it."

Hmmmm? I don't ever once recall Mr. Pruitt supporting the Science of Climate Change once. But hey these are politicians, so let me work on my surprise face...



Quoting 173. daddyjames:



So looking at that map, it is official. There is absolutely nothing in Wyoming (except for sheep).
500 nukes, and not one gets sent their way.
I think the others (~ 2000) are just so they don't feel left out from the fun.

If the sirens sound, I'm running to Wyoming!


Oregon looks good to me here in Soo Cal
Quoting 173. daddyjames:



So looking at that map, it is official. There is absolutely nothing in Wyoming (except for sheep).
500 nukes, and not one gets sent their way.
I think the others (~ 2000) are just so they don't feel left out from the fun.

If the sirens sound, I'm running to Wyoming!


Idaho also looks good.......but perhaps a bit too red for moi....lol.....Oregon it is!


From Accuweather.

For much of the East, milder air will arrive on Wednesday.

Temperatures will rise a few degrees each day into midweek. Along with some sunshine, it will feel pleasant for many after the recent cold snap.

Compared to the arctic outbreak last week, AccuWeather RealFeel® Temperatures will be 40 to 60 degrees Fahrenheit higher from the northern Plains to the Northeast on Wednesday.

I don't know what's happening. When I was young we had a white Christmas every year. Of course that was in Norway and Germany, but still!!!!
Quoting 160. washingtonian115:

If you all thought the other candidate was going to be your fairy god mother. ......lol.


Agreed, but no party should ever have control of all 3 branches of government. NEVER. What we are seeing now has not occurred since the 1920s. The last time Republicans had control of all 3 branches of Government what followed?....

I also feel the same for the Democratic party, which should never be in control of all 3 branches of government. Especially when the population is split 50/50 on the parties.

The country is the most divided I have ever seen it. Nothing but hate talk everywhere I walk here at work. Central IL. Also known has Second Texas. Most people I work with get all their information from the TV box. Kind of goes hand in had with their IQ. IMO.

Because where I come from if Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, or Rush Limbaugh didn't say it, it's not true....:(
Quoting 168. Patrap:



Er, OK..

But maybe compare my actual Blog Posts to yer's here...since your a expert on content.


Seems you missed my just updated one.

Try da Phish, it is Tuesday ya know.


Patrap's wunderblog

I took a year away from writing any Patrap entries to focus on the Boys Band, Michael Liuzza and Patrick Pearson Jr.

Now that the year is almost behind us here, the Boys have steadily risen up the New Orleans French Quarter Night Life.

They now play at the House of Blues Voodoo Gardens every Tuesday evening 6-9 here.

Their view from the stage... in Wedding Private Party mode.



They also play Saturday afternoons on Frenchman St. in the Marigny, at Marigny Brasserie from 1 to 4 pm.



You can find me at either Gig as well. I surf the crowd and see things from a perspective of the customers.

In a way it is what I've been doing here the last 11 years.

This past week I travelled to San Francisco for the AGU Conference. I met and heard Dr. Michael Mann describe His e-mail BS with UVA and from His publisher and Lawyer at the Weds legal Symposium. It was very interesting to here the PHD's attending questions to them. In the end, I added the Ivor Van Heerden story at LSU post Katrina where He sued them and Won.

I think I got my point across judging by their questions to me after. Never in my life did I think 5 Phds would give me their cards and ask for the info I relayed. Seems I communicate well within their peer group, which is very surprising as that is not usually found.

Any ol hoo, Im going to delve 100% back into actively writing in this blog again.

One bad thing about taking time off from this endeavour, ...its not like riding a bicycle, as one has to write to be proficient and effective @ it.

Meeting the wunderground.com employees and getting to touch the wu server glass window was a neat experience.

It was more like family separated, by time and distance, being reunited.



All of the wu team I met seemed genuinely glad I made it there. The community here should know that there are dozens of folks working hard every day for the betterment of the globe et al.

Sharing is what made these blogs so surprising to the site founding fathers.

It is the sharing here that has made the blogs what they are today.

Relevant, informative, challenging, and equal footing to all voices.

Happy Holidays to everyone everywhere.



We all got our marks to what or who we belong
Apart we are weak but together we're strong
Don't knock one of us or we all take offence
For a quiff or a crew we can jump to defence
With the drum that you bring or the song that you sing

Tribal, oh oh oh oh








Looking good Pat
Quoting 169. Patrap:

And to be sure taking care of a disabled wife is in no way any "retirement."

We call it Love.

But thanks for your collective input to my day.

Have a great Week too.




Good luck Pat and sorry about your wife.
Quoting 178. Grothar:



From Accuweather.

For much of the East, milder air will arrive on Wednesday.

Temperatures will rise a few degrees each day into midweek. Along with some sunshine, it will feel pleasant for many after the recent cold snap.

Compared to the arctic outbreak last week, AccuWeather RealFeel® Temperatures will be 40 to 60 degrees Fahrenheit higher from the northern Plains to the Northeast on Wednesday.

I don't know what's happening. When I was young we had a white Christmas every year. Of course that was in Norway and Germany, but still!!!!


Either the networks are too far left or too far right. I agree I think we should have a non biased network but I may never see that in my lifetime.
Quoting 95. washingaway:

A fallout shelter design with a pool. Brilliant! Note the green water.


It has it's own heavy water supply.
Quoting 137. Patrap:

When Gro and I were in Norway with NATO in 84 ..the USMC Showed us NCO's the US Nuke targets footprints.

If anyone doubts the USSR's ability to end the US in a Afternoon,..well..just know that from Venice,La..to Baton Rouge..there are 70 targets.









Overkill. A small nuclear exchange is all it takes. Russians worked out how 'Nuclear Winter" works. When calculating the dust, smoke from fire storms and ensuing loss of vegetation it can take as little as thirty or so twenty kiloton tactical nukes. Then a self reinforcing nuclear winter starts.
As the story goes, the weather guys said "the north and south pole will meet at the equator with an ice sheet many meters thick. The generals laughed saying it was impossible. Then the geologists said "well its happened before and that scenario just ended about six hundred million years ago"
SciFi writers had a ball with the theory "we are the civilization to arise after the last one nuked itself 800 million years ago starting the last major ice age"
Quoting 184. Xandra:



Love Monty Python.
"No one expects the Spanish inquisition"
Quoting 183. BayFog:


It has it's own heavy water supply.

And stocked with yellow cake. Mmmm good.
Pre-Christmas melt? North Pole forecast to warm 50 degrees above normal Thursday


It's not normal, and it's happening again.

For the second year in a row in late December and for the second time in as many months, temperatures in the high Arctic will be freakishly high compared to normal.

Computer models project that on Thursday, three days before Christmas, the temperature near the North Pole will be an astronomical 40-50 degrees warmer-than-normal and approaching 32 degrees, the melting point.
Quoting 172. daddyjames:
Don't undermine my attempts at achieving notoriety! ;
The Notorious daddyjames. That could work.
Quoting 173. daddyjames:



So looking at that map, it is official. There is absolutely nothing in Wyoming (except for sheep).
500 nukes, and not one gets sent their way.
I think the others (~ 2000) are just so they don't feel left out from the fun.

If the sirens sound, I'm running to Wyoming!



There are some weird locations for triangles, I dont get why they would destroy central North Dakota for no reason either hahaha. Also, 0% chance Boise, Idaho is on anyone's Top 500 places we need to take out list.
Quoting 190. VAbeachhurricanes:




There are some weird locations for triangles, I dont get why they would destroy central North Dakota for no reason either hahaha. Also, 0% chance Boise, Idaho is on anyone's Top 500 places we need to take out list.


Strategic targets of the Soviet Era, N. Dakota used to be home to one of our nuclear missile silo fields. Other antiquated targets might be critical infrastructure, dams, power plants, oil reserves etc.
Season's greetings all! Quick off season check in and see some are being naughty and some are being nice. Lol Happy holidays to you all: Patrap, Scott, Neapolitan, and all the regulars. Wishing you all the best in the coming New Year.

Keith
The War begins: This is how they do it.....

"Congress: Obama Admin
Fired Top Scientist to Advance Climate Change Plans
Investigation claims Obama admin retaliated against scientists, politicized DoE"

Link
Quoting 185. TechnoCaveman:



Overkill. A small nuclear exchange is all it takes. Russians worked out how 'Nuclear Winter" works. When calculating the dust, smoke from fire storms and ensuing loss of vegetation it can take as little as thirty or so twenty kiloton tactical nukes. Then a self reinforcing nuclear winter starts.
As the story goes, the weather guys said "the north and south pole will meet at the equator with an ice sheet many meters thick. The generals laughed saying it was impossible. Then the geologists said "well its happened before and that scenario just ended about six hundred million years ago"
SciFi writers had a ball with the theory "we are the civilization to arise after the last one nuked itself 800 million years ago starting the last major ice age"
Safest place after any type of nuclear exchange would be in the Southern hemisphere. There likely wont be any detonations south of the equator, and air currents dont allow much of the contaminated air from the Northern Hemisphere that far down without some sort of modification. That doesnt mean there would not be serious implications , just a better chance of surviving nuclear war
Quoting 194. hydrus:

Safest place after any type of nuclear exchange would be in the Southern hemisphere. There likely wont be any detonations south of the equator, and air currents dont allow much of the contaminated air from the Northern Hemisphere that far down without some sort of modification. That doesnt mean there would not be serious implications , just a better chance of surviving nuclear war


Baring the nuclear winter and mass Exodous from the north, Argentina and parts of Brazil look good.
Venezuelan economy has already left the toilet for the septic tank sadly. Chinese are deep in Nicaragua building their panama like canal.

WW-III is no solution for Global warming :)
Quoting 193. MontanaZephyr:

The War begins: This is how they do it.....

"Congress: Obama Admin
Fired Top Scientist to Advance Climate Change Plans
Investigation claims Obama admin retaliated against scientists, politicized DoE"

Link

One can't help but wonder how much actual governance Rep. Smith may have been able to accomplish during his tenure were he not engaged in so many anti-science witch hunts directed by his fossil fuel owners. In this case, Smith and his cohorts in the radical right press are having a pretend snit because they think, despite the complete absence of evidence or proof, that officials in the Obama administration fired a particular DOE scientist because they wanted to "silence" her. In truth, it appears Dr. Metting was terminated for her increasing unwillingness to discuss actual research, and simultaneous penchant for spouting her own off-topic and out-of-context political personal opinions, but now she's suing for wrongful termination, and know-nothing wingnuts, headed by Smith, plan to play it up for all its worth.

First, that Lamar Smith is the Chair of the US House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology is the
second largest absurdity I've seen today.

That a failed Dancing With The Stars contestant will shortly be running the DOE is the first.
Quoting 173. daddyjames:



So looking at that map, it is official. There is absolutely nothing in Wyoming (except for sheep).
500 nukes, and not one gets sent their way.
I think the others (~ 2000) are just so they don't feel left out from the fun.

If the sirens sound, I'm running to Wyoming!

I'm going to the Nevada-Oregon-Idaho border area...
It is pretty clear that Trump will be helpless in dealing with groupthink. He's probably never heard of it.

How John F. Kennedy Changed Decision Making for Us All ... until Trump came along.
From Environment America:

1100 Health professionals urge President-elect Trump to act on climate

Friday, December 16, 2016

Washington, D.C. – Today, 1100 doctors, nurses, medical students, and other health professionals joined Environment America to issue a letter to President-elect Trump calling on him to take climate action to protect public health.

The letter states, “With health impacts ranging from heat-related illness and deaths to asthma and respiratory illnesses, and more vector borne diseases, climate change is threatening the health of Americans across the country. You have the power to dramatically cut the greenhouse gas pollution fueling this crisis. We ask you to work to shift towards a 100% renewable energy and efficient future, while phasing out the use of fossil fuels.”

An estimated 6.8 million children in the United States are affected by asthma and susceptible to allergens due to their underdeveloped respiratory and immune systems. According to the U.S. Global Change Research Program, climate change will likely increase air pollution and airborne allergens.

In the United States, the spread of diseases such as Zika Virus is expected to increase due to climate change.

[...]

The letter released today outlines the health damages in the US Global Change Research Program’s 2016 Climate and Health Assessment. It urges the president-elect to support the Clean Power Plan to limit carbon pollution, phase out drilling and mining on public lands, increase electric vehicles and set higher fuel economy standards for cars.

“If you think West Nile Virus and Zika Virus were bad, you haven’t seen anything yet,” said Dr. Tony Iton, Senior Vice President of The California Endowment. “We need to act and we need to act fast. The health of our population depends on it, particularly those in low-income communities.”

Click here to read full article.
Quoting 192. KDDFlorida:

Season's greetings all! Quick off season check in and see some are being naughty and some are being nice. Lol Happy holidays to you all: Patrap, Scott, Neapolitan, and all the regulars. Wishing you all the best in the coming New Year.

Keith

What? No Merry Chrismas? Happy Hoildays? Well, happy Festivus to you pal, you fargin ice hole! Just kidding, you know, the war on Chrismas and all.
Quoting 197. TechnoCaveman:



Baring the nuclear winter and mass Exodous from the north, Argentina and parts of Brazil look good.
Venezuelan economy has already left the toilet for the septic tank sadly. Chinese are deep in Nicaragua building their panama like canal.

WW-III is no solution for Global warming :)
True...Nuclear weapons are a real threat to humanity. It would be good to rid the world of such weaponry.
Quoting 200. bappit:

It is pretty clear that Trump will be helpless in dealing with groupthink. He's probably never heard of it.

How John F. Kennedy Changed Decision Making for Us All ... until Trump came along.


So all the Presidents prior to Trump (after Kennedy) did everything by the book? Just look at this list.
John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969)
Richard M. Nixon (1969-1974)
Gerald R. Ford (1974-1977)
Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)
Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
George Bush (1989-1993)
William J. Clinton (1993-2001)
George W. Bush (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (2009-)

Two reasons that the year will be the warmest, one of the strongest El Nino's on record and the +.12C added by Karl et al 2015 to SSTs. Plus your DMI Arctic temperatures uses the ERA40 reanalysis which has been cited as unreliable for long term trends. So comparing a year's Arctic temperatures to the "normal" graph is not accurate. Sea ice has been low no doubt but its all part of the warm phase of the AMO ;and like, in the 1930s when sea ice was low before it will recover in the 2020s and 2030s as the AMO gets to the cold phase.
Quoting 165. kestrel68:


I was actually thinking of the other candidate as sane and competent. Seriously, I'd be very content with sane and competent right now.




So Bernie Sanders? I agree then. I can't deal with someone who takes money from the Saudi elites even if they were to fund a better environment. Its like blood diamonds. Well actually it IS blood currency since that money finances terrorism and big oil too.

In regards to AGW and environment. When are we gonna stop taking sides and make it a bipartisan effort? Part of the blame goes to digging insanely deep on one party's side on an issue that concerns us all.
Quoting 189. bappit:

The Notorious daddyjames. That could work.


I kinda like how that rolls off the tongue. Mmmm, brb ;)
211. bwi
Deep lows east of Greenland bring lots of relatively warm air north toward the pole.

Quoting 194. hydrus:

Safest place after any type of nuclear exchange would be in the Southern hemisphere. There likely wont be any detonations south of the equator, and air currents dont allow much of the contaminated air from the Northern Hemisphere that far down without some sort of modification. That doesnt mean there would not be serious implications , just a better chance of surviving nuclear war


That's not what hppened in On the Beach
Major Ocean Circulation Pattern at Risk from Greenland Ice Melt



In its most recent report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change stated that although AMOC could weaken as a result of human-induced global warming, it is unlikely to collapse entirely in the 21st century. That report did not include factors such as the melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet, however, which has accelerated over the past several decades, or the basic uncertainty surrounding AMOC’s stability. Now Bakker et al. have included those factors in eight state-of-the-art climate models, projecting what is likely to happen under two separate climate scenarios up to and beyond the 21st century.

In one scenario, anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions peak around 2040, then decline. Under these conditions, AMOC does not collapse entirely but weakens by about 18% by roughly 2090–2100, the scientists report.

In the second, “business as usual,” scenario, emissions continue to rise at their current rate throughout the 21st century. In their models, the researchers found that by 2100, the system will lose about 37% of its strength. By 2290–2300, AMOC will diminish by approximately 75% and will have a 44% chance of collapsing entirely, the scientists report.
Quoting 190. VAbeachhurricanes:




There are some weird locations for triangles, I dont get why they would destroy central North Dakota for no reason either hahaha. Also, 0% chance Boise, Idaho is on anyone's Top 500 places we need to take out list.


most of the triangles I can associate with large military bases, industrial centers, and research labs. Where is the top secret bunker to house the prez just in casre?
Quoting 215. no1der:

Major Ocean Circulation Pattern at Risk from Greenland Ice Melt



In its most recent report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change stated that although AMOC could weaken as a result of human-induced global warming, it is unlikely to collapse entirely in the 21st century. That report did not include factors such as the melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet, however, which has accelerated over the past several decades, or the basic uncertainty surrounding AMOC’s stability. Now Bakker et al. have included those factors in eight state-of-the-art climate models, projecting what is likely to happen under two separate climate scenarios up to and beyond the 21st century.

In one scenario, anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions peak around 2040, then decline. Under these conditions, AMOC does not collapse entirely but weakens by about 18% by roughly 2090–2100, the scientists report.

In the second, “business as usual,” scenario, emissions continue to rise at their current rate throughout the 21st century. In their models, the researchers found that by 2100, the system will lose about 37% of its strength. By 2290–2300, AMOC will diminish by approximately 75% and will have a 44% chance of collapsing entirely, the scientists report.
Very dangerous to sea creatures. Any disruption of the oceanic food chain would have drastic effects. Oceans are already becoming more acidic. Plankton play a huge role in the Carbon Cycle...Link

Source Telegraph: Storm Barbara threatens Christmas get-away with 90-mph winds

Looks like a storm with my name (as it was dubbed in the UK) is about to cause some trouble ;-)

Meanwhile worse news of the current cyclone in the western Mediterranean (and it isn't over yet, although the storm should subside tomorrow - with another one building up in the Eastern Mediterranean the next days):
Five dead as flash floods wreak havoc across eastern Spain
The Local (Spain), 20 December 2016
Quoting 207. Hurricane4Lex:



So Bernie Sanders? I agree then. I can't deal with someone who takes money from the Saudi elites even if they were to fund a better environment. Its like blood diamonds. Well actually it IS blood currency since that money finances terrorism and big oil too.

In regards to AGW and environment. When are we gonna stop taking sides and make it a bipartisan effort? Part of the blame goes to digging insanely deep on one party's side on an issue that concerns us all.

That's all well and good, but Bernie didn't make it to the general election. In the end, it was a binary choice. You may not like the Saudis, but I think it's unconscionable that more than 20 million people are likely to lose their health insurance because some folks had some issues with the most qualified candidate on the ballot. Hate to say it, but I'm thinking your, and others, principled stand is going to cause a lot of folks a lot of misery.

Quoting 206. blizzard1024:

in the 1930s when sea ice was low before it will recover in the 2020s and 2030s as the AMO gets to the cold phase.


Barring a huge meteor impact or something similar that can block out the sun there is zero chance that Arctic sea ice will recover for many years. My guess is that Arctic sea ice September minimum will go below one million sq. km around 2032. At which point it will be called "ice free" even though that is not the term I would use.
Until a Bipartisan effort is made in regards to climate change....nothing will change. Being condescending with knowledge is not helpful. The naysayers will come around.
Quoting 216. daddyjames:



most of the triangles I can associate with large military bases, industrial centers, and research labs. Where is the top secret bunker to house the prez just in casre?


This is where the prez would end up.
Global Climate Funds Targeted by Trump Team's Latest Questionnaire
'Any action by the incoming Trump administration to eliminate international support for climate action will serve to undermine the United States' standing in the world'
Published on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 by Common Dreams

Public Climate Information Threatened Under Trump
Climate Central, Published: December 20th, 2016
Google “climate change” and the top two hits are websites that are part of NASA’s online climate portal, followed by a Wikipedia entry and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s climate website.
Websites maintained by the federal government are among the first online stops for the general public — from students, local policymakers and everyone else — to learn about climate change. There is rising concern among scientists and climate communications experts that those websites may be among the first to be deleted, politicized or degraded with inaccurate climate information after President-elect Donald Trump takes office in January, all of which would impact the public’s understanding of the science and urgency of climate change. ...


El Nino-linked cyclones to increase in Pacific with global warming -research
by Umberto Bacchi, Thomson Reuters Foundation, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:22 GMT

Arctic ice melt 'already affecting weather patterns where you live right now'
Soaring Arctic temperatures ‘strongly linked’ to recent extreme weather events, say scientists at cutting edge of climate change research
The Guardian, Monday 19 December 2016 14.57 GMT

This is the polar bear capital of the world, but the snow has gone
Canada’s Hudson Bay is as ice-free in November as on a summer’s day and polar bears could be extinct here by mid-century. If the bears are in trouble, so are we
The Guardian, Tuesday 20 December 2016 07.00 GMT

Good luck, poor world, and good night for now from Germany ...
Some fun weather in Montana atm. here in Helena, the wind is from the west at 33 MPH with gusts to 49. most of the precip is rain, but occassionally, at 37°, it turns into a nasty snowstorm, and then back to rain. The main streets are clear from the snowstorms of last week, but the side streets are snow compacted into ice, and now, of course, wet. NOT fun to drive in!
Quoting 191. civEngineer:



Strategic targets of the Soviet Era, N. Dakota used to be home to one of our nuclear missile silo fields. Other antiquated targets might be critical infrastructure, dams, power plants, oil reserves etc.


North Dakota used to be? North Dakota has Nukes all over the central and western part of the state. You drive right by them. If you drive on hwy 52 you will drive right by a command center, it looks like a small country school. I have dealt with their security personnel before for the purpose of work.

At least the snowfall forecast for X-mas has fallen to 8-16 inches so that is good
Quoting 225. MontanaZephyr:

Some fun weather in Montana atm. here in Helena, the wind is from the west at 33 MPH with gusts to 49. most of the precip is rain, but occassionally, at 37°, it turns into a nasty snowstorm, and then back to rain. The main streets are clear from the snowstorms of last week, but the side streets are snow compacted into ice, and now, of course, wet. NOT fun to drive in!
49.....ooooo that is nasty...:)
Quoting 213. JohnLonergan:



That's not what hppened in On the Beach
Very beautiful John...In response to your link..:)...Link
Quoting 184. Xandra:



This is ridiculously anti - Christian. Your meme portrays Christians as crazy morons who have no regard for science. There are plenty of Christian scientist's out there who use real data and research.
Amazon Rivers is Melting One of East Antarctica’s Largest Glaciers
If we’ve learned anything this year, it’s that few of Antarctica’s submerged coastal glaciers are safe from the warming ocean. Places that we once thought wouldn’t be vulnerable to melt for decades or centuries are now starting to feel the heat of rising water temperatures.

The heat comes in the form of great floods of warmer than normal waters running beneath the ocean surface and then eating away at the undersides of ice shelves and sea fronting glaciers. These floods are provided by the warmth forced into the world ocean by rising global greenhouse gas concentrations. And such invasions are happening around Antarctica’s perimeter with increasing frequency. But perhaps the most disturbing such event now ongoing is the present warm water flood running in from the Southern Ocean toward East Antarctica’s Totten Glacier.


Link
Quoting 229. hotroddan:


This is ridiculously anti - Christian. Your meme portrays Christians as crazy morons who have no regard for science. There are plenty of Christian scientist out there who use real data and research.


That's the Spanish Inquisition in the red suits .
Quoting 229. hotroddan:


This is ridiculously anti - Christian. Your meme portrays Christians as crazy morons who have no regard for science. There are plenty of Christian scientist's out there who use real data and research.


I think its a "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" as well as Monty Python joke
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2R3FvS4xr4
Jim Hunt is guest posting at Arctic Sea ice –

The 11th Key Science Moment of 2016

Regular readers of the Arctic Sea Ice Blog will be aware that Neven has, not entirely successfully, been “on sabbatical” for a while. During that time assorted inaccuracies about Neven himself and about the state of sea ice in the Arctic have been propagating through both “social” and “mainstream” media.

In this guest post, reproduced from the Great White Con blog, I endeavour to set part of the Arctic sea ice record straight, whilst wondering “Why?” so many wires were apparently crossed.

A brief history of scientific “churnalism” in the age of social media. The “post-truth” of The Guardian’s 11th Key Science Moment of 2016.


Link
OT, but it's a slow night and this is fun:

Vladimir Putin And Donald Trump Cold Open SNL Dec 17 2016
Quoting 201. Xandra:

From Environment America:

1100 Health professionals urge President-elect Trump to act on climate

Friday, December 16, 2016

Washington,


How will Trump act? You can not tweet global warming away.
Will he
1) Increase coal and manufacturing usage here saying "it reduces the carbon footprint because our iron smelters are so much more efficient and there is no shipping the steel from Chyna (as only Trump can pronounce it)"
2) Build a wall to keep CO2 out ?
3) Create new jobs turning CO2 into scientific grade graphite for Russia's nuclear power plants
4) Let the scientists figure it out
5) _______ (fill in the blank, its Trump after all)
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Quoting 185. TechnoCaveman:



Overkill. A small nuclear exchange is all it takes. Russians worked out how 'Nuclear Winter" works. When calculating the dust, smoke from fire storms and ensuing loss of vegetation it can take as little as thirty or so twenty kiloton tactical nukes. Then a self reinforcing nuclear winter starts.
As the story goes, the weather guys said "the north and south pole will meet at the equator with an ice sheet many meters thick. The generals laughed saying it was impossible. Then the geologists said "well its happened before and that scenario just ended about six hundred million years ago"
SciFi writers had a ball with the theory "we are the civilization to arise after the last one nuked itself 800 million years ago starting the last major ice age"

So, would this qualify as "geoengineering" to prevent AGW? Wonder if this is being considered by the current administration. Kills several birds with one stone (pun definitely intended).
Quoting 229. hotroddan:


This is ridiculously anti - Christian. Your meme portrays Christians as crazy morons who have no regard for science. There are plenty of Christian scientist's out there who use real data and research.


Your point is?
Quoting 229. hotroddan:


There are plenty of Christian scientist's [sic] out there who use real data and research.

Indeed there are. Do you know of Katharine Hayhoe?

Texas scientist and evangelical takes to the web to convert climate cynics - As a climate scientist and an evangelical Christian, Katharine Hayhoe is well placed to reach a sceptical audience - even if that means braving hate mail

And about 'real data', here she is in a WaPo article on the meaning of 'hard data' as demanded of climate projections in the GOP platform:

These two sentences could hint at the next threat to climate science under Trump
"First, the definition of 'hard data' that various elected officials appear to hold this past year seems to consist of 'data that supports my pre-existing opinion,'" said Katharine Hayhoe, a climate scientist at Texas Tech University, when asked to comment on the language.
"Second, in a rapidly changing world - where global mean temperature is rising faster than ever recorded in the history of human civilization on this planet - the past is no longer a reliable guide to the future. Only by combining past observations and the basic physics that has been well known since the 1800s that forms the foundation of climate models today can we ensure that we safely and successfully negotiate the curve of a changing climate," she said.
Quoting 239. daddyjames:
Your point is?
You have to get the evangelicals to go along with you to get things done, so don't demonize them.
Quoting 241. bappit:

You have to get the evangelicals to go along with you to get things done, so don't demonize them.
Greetings Bap...The problem is that some of these evangelicals are not genuine...They play the role, but inside they are evil...This is the truth..
Quoting 172. daddyjames:

Don't undermine my attempts at achieving notoriety! ;)
DJ Notorious ;)
2 Storms forecast this week........keep em coming, we can use it! The storm last week got me good with 2.8". This weeks forecast for storm #1 at my mountain location in Soo Cal is .30"-.50" Wed-Thur and Storm #2 Fri-Sat is .75"-1.25". Hope so!

Quoting 242. hydrus:
Greetings Bap...The problem is that some of these evangelicals are not genuine...They play the role, but inside they are evil...This is the truth..
Some are. I hear about it from a relative back in Louisiana who deals with LOTS of people. Still, we can't go the demonization route and expect it to work.
Greetings from the island of St. Thomas!

It's currently 78, feeling the same, with showers around. Daily highs are 83, sometimes dipping to 82, and nights are around 75. The Christmas winds have arrived, along with daily showers and the island is as green as I've ever seen it.

I've just gotten off shift and trying to unwind before I hit the hay.

As far as the Zika virus goes, I've read that St. Thomas has had an upswing in cases in the last few weeks. Those new cases included one of my bartender buddies and my stepson. The stepson just moved back to the island two months ago.....I warned him! Ahhhhh..... he thought he was dying while those of us who had Chikengunya laughed when we got the Zika virus. I know, it's nothing to laugh about but we were only comparing pain and itchiness levels.

Am really hoping this starts to die off soon as I have a pregnant step daughter here in the house. It's very worrisome. The government is providing all pregnant women with a "Zika kit" which includes cans of mosquito repellant and netting for beds, and even come to our property to make sure there is no standing water in the vicinity.

Had my very first run in with a scorpion in my office yesterday. Scared me ALMOST as badly as a spider but not quite. Now I'm worried because I'm told that they are always in pairs. What else is lurking in there that I don't know about....

Anyway, I do hope all is well with you folks out there. Will try to get back sooner next time!!

Take care, Lindy



Little spin of east coast of Fl.


Link

Someone said that this was not a glitch with the satellite or computers, that it was some type of energy wave that came from outside the solar system..

Quoting 250. hydrus:

Someone said that this was not a glitch with the satellite or computers, that it was some type of energy wave that came from outside the solar system..



Someone said? Don't go getting Trumpy on me. Who said it? I want to know more about this. Got a link?
Is all this non-climate-related political talk really necessary? Is this really the most conducive place for that?
Quoting 251. washingaway:


Someone said? Don't go getting Trumpy on me. Who said it? I want to know more about this. Got a link?
Here you go...He sounds serious about it...Link
Quoting 252. wilsonbiggs:

Is all this non-climate-related political talk really necessary? Is this really the most conducive place for that?

To answer your first question: Yes, considering who has been elected and the impact he will have on the climate.
To answer your second question: See my answer to your first question.
And so our first of two storms begins! ULL off Baja pulling tropical moisture northward. Kinda surprised that it has started already as the lower 15k of atmosphere was pretty dry. Maybe since I have a bit of elevation(3500 ft).Maybe it is virga at the low elevations by the coast or the atmosphere moistened up quickly. Any who, we will take all raindrops!



Snowing on the rim of Grand Canyon at 7,000 feet!
Quoting 253. hydrus:

Here you go...He sounds serious about it...Link

This is interesting thanks for the link and bringing it to my attention.
Quoting 247. bappit:

Some are. I hear about it from a relative back in Louisiana who deals with LOTS of people. Still, we can't go the demonization route and expect it to work.
You are absolutely right..Its important to remember that being quarrelsome, judgmental or immature will not achieve much....Wisdom is proportionate with humility.
ULL shows up well on WV loop, west of Central/Southern Baja. This low forecast to move North and Northeast into Northern Baja/Arizona. Light rain has started at my place in North/Central San Diego County. Hopefully it stays light and soaks in allowing the second and forecast stronger storm with higher rain totals to all soak in.
Im watching NASA The unexplained files.........Green people are on the way! And they have ORANGE hair!
system finally got gale force winds in all four quadrants to get a name.

Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Perth
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin
Gale Warning
TROPICAL CYCLONE YVETTE, CATEGORY ONE (07U)
2:56 PM WST December 21 2016
=================================

At 2:00 PM WST, Tropical Cyclone Yvette, Category One (987 hPa) located at 14.5S 114.0E or 760 km north northwest of Karratha and 810 km northwest of Port Hedland has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 55 knots. The cyclone is reported as slowly moving.

Gale Force Winds
============
60 NM from the center in northeastern quadrant
90 NM from the center in southeastern quadrant
90 NM from the center in southwestern quadrant
90 NM from the center in northwestern quadrant

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.0/D0.5/24 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
================
12 HRS: 14.4S 114.4E - 45 knots (CAT 1)
24 HRS: 14.1S 114.4E - 45 knots (CAT 1)
48 HRS: 13.9S 115.7E - 50 knots (CAT 2)
72 HRS: 16.0S 117.9E - 60 knots (CAT 2)

Additional Information
====================
Tropical Cyclone Yvette has developed to the north of Western Australia.

The system was located using an ASCAT pass at 0133 UTC and the latest visible imagery.

Deep convection developed overnight and persisted during the morning and early afternoon to the northwest and southwest of the center.

Using a shear pattern DTs of 3.0 were obtained with the center <0.5 from edge. MET was 3.0 with a recent D trend. PAT was 3.0. FT/CI set to 3.0 with intensity set to 40 knots. CIMSS ADT had a CI of 3.5 at 0500 UTC. NESDIS ADT was 3.1 at 0400 UTC.

The ASCAT pass at 0133 UTC showed gales wrapping around the center in the southwest and northwest quadrants with no information in the other quadrants.

Recent motion continues to be slow.

Shear analysis at 00 UTC showed strong shear from the ENE [-30 knots], there is upper level divergence over southern quadrants only and wind fields show little outflow in northern quadrants. Shear may decrease later on Wednesday or on Thursday, allowing conditions to become more favorable for development. Sea surface temperatures are around 29C with 29C to 31C along the forecast track.

The system is expected to be slow moving before tracking towards the southeast from Friday and approaching the Pilbara/West Kimberley coast over the Christmas weekend. There is considerable model variation on the movement and intensity of the system, particularly in the longer term. The movement of a tropical low over the Kimberley, then through central parts of Western Australia may influence the development and track of 07U.
Japan Meteorological Agency
15:00 PM JST December 21 2016
============================

Gale Warning

Caroline Islands
At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression (1002 hPa) located at 6.4N 141.7E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The depression is reported as moving west at 7 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0

Forecast and Intensity
================
24 HRS: 9.0N 137.5E - 35 knots (Tropical Storm/CAT 1) Caroline Islands
Is it a Chinese hoax like Herr Trump says?
So earth is bent over and taking energy in the rear? Hmmmm
Quoting 253. hydrus:

Here you go...He sounds serious about it...Link


Did you notice the other Utube videos on the side? Whacka doodle time
Quoting 253. hydrus:

Here you go...He sounds serious about it...Link
And all this energy hitting us on the backside is going to do what exactly? Make us a cueball aiming for Mars? Or?

Quoting 265. SunnyDaysFla:



Did you notice the other Utube videos on the side? Whacka doodle time


LOL......Maybe it's the conspiracy guy from Texas getting into physics and science fiction after the election?
Quoting 260. HurricaneHunterJoe:

Im watching NASA The unexplained files.........Green people are on the way! And they have ORANGE hair!


Red-headed aliens with really bad motion sickness?
Quoting 258. hydrus:

You are absolutely right..Its important to remember that being quarrelsome, judgmental or immature will not achieve much....Wisdom is proportionate with humility.

And you are absolutely right, being quarrelsome, judgmental and immature will not achieve much. Tweet tweet. But it can get you elected president.

Wisdom proportionate with humility? That would be a good quality to have.
Quoting 266. HurricaneHunterJoe:

hitting us on the backside is going to do what exactly? Make us a cueball aiming for Mars? Or?

And all this energy
I do know that a gamma ray burst strong enough to harm Earth is a incredible rare event, on the order of hundreds of millions of years, on the other hand, an electromagnetic pulse is a whole different story. There are indications that such pulses do in fact exist, and would be dangerous to the world. One of the very reasons that the NORAD alternate command center is under 2000 feet of granite and designed to sustain a 30 megaton blast, is the electromagnetic pulse associated with nuclear detonations.
Quoting 265. SunnyDaysFla:



Did you notice the other Utube videos on the side? Whacka doodle time

I look at them but didn't click on any of them.
Quoting 270. hydrus:

I do know that a gamma ray burst strong enough to harm Earth is a incredible rare event, on the order of hundreds of millions of years, on the other hand, an electromagnetic pulse is a whole different story. There are indications that such pulses do in fact exist, and would be dangerous to the world. One of the very reasons that the NORAD alternate command center is under 2000 feet of granite and designed to sustain a 30 megaton blast, is the electromagnetic pulse associated with nuclear detonations.


I have been in Cheyenne Mountain..........loading and heading out in 20! It's still raining in Soo Cal.....who-doggies.....3 times in a week.....who needs El Nino....LOL
Quoting 269. washingaway:


And you are absolutely right, being quarrelsome, judgmental and immature will not achieve much. Tweet tweet. But it can get you elected president.

Wisdom proportionate with humility? That would be a good quality to have.



The dude needs a manicure!
Quoting 269. washingaway:


And you are absolutely right, being quarrelsome, judgmental and immature will not achieve much. Tweet tweet. But it can get you elected president.

Wisdom proportionate with humility? That would be a good quality to have.



He's also fatter than I remember.........but then again I have not watched any news or politics since Nov 8,2016.
Quoting 272. HurricaneHunterJoe:



I have been in Cheyenne Mountain..........loading and heading out in 20! It's still raining in Soo Cal.....who-doggies.....3 times in a week.....who needs El Nino....LOL


Was also in the SAGE Blockhouses at 25th AD and 26th AD that supposedly could survive everything but a direct hit.......I wouldn't be counting my chickens too early on.
Let's go make a SNOWMAN at the South Rim of Grand Canyon!

Speaking of waves:
Gravitational waves are ripples in the curvature of spacetime that propagate as waves, generated in certain gravitational interactions and travelling outward from their source. Predicted in 1916 by Albert Einstein on the basis of his theory of general relativity, gravitational waves transport energy as gravitational radiation, a form of radiant energy similar to electromagnetic radiation.
Da man!

Quoting 277. washingaway:

Speaking of waves:
Gravitational waves are ripples in the curvature of spacetime that propagate as waves, generated in certain gravitational interactions and travelling outward from their source. Predicted in 1916 by Albert Einstein on the basis of his theory of general relativity, gravitational waves transport energy as gravitational radiation, a form of radiant energy similar to electromagnetic radiation.
Da man!




Indeed! How does ones mind come up with things like that? Im thinking it's over my pay grade!
Quoting 278. HurricaneHunterJoe:



Indeed! How does ones mind come up with things like that? Im thinking it's over my pay grade!

I know, he predicted this a hundred years ago and he was proven right again in February of this year. A brilliant mind for sure.
Three great minds
Smog refugees flee Chinese cities as 'airpocalypse' blights half a billion
Thousands head to pollution-free regions as haze descends on the country’s northern industrial heartland
Guardian, Tom Phillips in Beijing, Wednesday 21 December 2016 10.05 GMT


On Weibo now: 400 students in Henan, Anyang, taking exams outdoors in heavy smog. #airpocalypse
282. MahFL
Quoting 231. RobertWC:



That's the Spanish Inquisition in the red suits .


When they came knocking at your door you were in big big trouble.
It's the small things that will get the upper hand first -


Mysterious dolphin die-off in SA waters in 2013 caused by virus related to measles

At least 50 dolphins died over a seven-month period in 2013 that also saw hundreds of other unexplained marine deaths.
"We think it's related to the very warm water temperatures and the fish die-offs that happened at just the same time."


Link
Quoting 237. RobertWC:




This is the kinda stuff that should cause people to sit right up. That's what like 4 standard deviations off the last couple months?
285. MahFL
Quoting 284. RunningTrauma:



This is the kinda stuff that should cause people to sit right up. That's what like 4 standard deviations off the last couple months?


Most people though just see a bunch of colorful squiggly lines...
Quoting 253. hydrus:

Here you go...He sounds serious about it...Link

Show the intense auroral activity...or it didn't happen. ;^)
Quoting 284. RunningTrauma:



This is the kinda stuff that should cause people to sit right up. That's what like 4 standard deviations off the last couple months?
This makes me seriously wonder if we didn't just pass a major tipping point of some sort. It's like something "snapped" this year. It could just be a transient anomaly, and come back to the more typical range, but jeez, it is WAY out there right now.
Quoting 241. bappit:

You have to get the evangelicals to go along with you to get things done, so don't demonize them.


I don't. I agree with hr. There are plenty of scientists that can separate their religious beliefs from scientific research.
What I cannot agree with is fostering religious beliefs as science, and not having a sense of humor about it.
Quoting 282. MahFL:



When they came knocking at your door you were in big big trouble.


Not sure they displayed the courtesy of knocking.
Quoting 284. RunningTrauma:



This is the kinda stuff that should cause people to sit right up. That's what like 4 standard deviations off the last couple months?

8.1 sigma at some point.
Tipping point was passed around the year 2005.
Now we're just watching the ice go seasonal if even that at all (the Arctic Ocean will suck in some hell of a pack of sunlight in summer as of first ice free season, barring refreeze perhaps even the first winter after that).

Arctic Amplification. Hugely, horrifyingly undermodeled.
We're there, dudes.
2016 Will Be The Warmest Year, But This Is How Deniers Will Spin It
When opponents of the scientific consensus on climate tell you that global temperatures are plummeting, this is how they are cherry-picking the data.

Link
Obama bans new oil, gas drilling off Alaska, part of Atlantic coast

People will make a big stink about it, but . . .

Even if Trump tries to fight the move, few energy companies have expressed a desire to drill anytime soon off the coasts thanks to abundant cheap shale oil in North Dakota and Texas.

Exploratory drilling in the Arctic is expensive and risky. Shell Oil ended its quest to explore in harsh Arctic waters in 2015, after a vessel it was using suffered a gash and environmentalists uncovered a law that limited its drilling.
Quoting 291. RobertWC:

2016 Will Be The Warmest Year, But This Is How Deniers Will Spin It
When opponents of the scientific consensus on climate tell you that global temperatures are plummeting, this is how they are cherry-picking the data.

Link


This is how FOXNEWS is handling the current situation, because fair and balanced...

What a joke.

Congress: Obama admin fired top scientist to advance climate change plans

"Rep. Lamar Smith (R., Texas), chair of the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, released a wide-ranging report on Tuesday that shows how senior Obama administration officials retaliated against a leading scientist and plotted ways to block a congressional inquiry surrounding key research into the impact of radiation.

A top DoE scientist who liaised with Congress on the matter was fired by the Obama administration for being too forthright with lawmakers, according to the report, which provides an in-depth look at the White House’s efforts to ensure senior staffers toe the administration’s line. "
From one of the Scribblers

Shawn Redmond / December 21, 2016
Take a peek at these two images a month apart. What appears to be ponding in the November shot moves toward the ocean in the todays shot and there appears to be a lot more melt over the whole glacier. This is the Amery ice shelf, Prydz bay almost dead centre of East Antarctica. This continent is starting to look like the GIS. Not a good thing at all with two solid months of potential melt ahead.

Nov. 20th shot

Link

Today%u2019s shot

Link
Merry Solstice Everyone!
90S is looking lively..

293. ILwthrfan

nodler has very good take down of this flaming straw man , down thread.
Good morning, all. 30F and a bit of snow this morning in Salt Lake City. Forecast for Christmas is snow! I haven't seen snow on Christmas in years. Bit excited about it honestly :)

Another one from the Scribblers

Vic / December 21, 2016
Off the edge of the Totten Glacier about 30 metres down. Simply stunning.


U Tube
Quoting 297. RobertWC:

293. ILwthrfan

nodler has very good take down of this flaming straw man , down thread.


The damage is already done when others take it for truth and refuse to accept the idea that Climate Change is very real and very proven. They simply turn to articles like these and don't need any other justification for their position.
Quoting 213. JohnLonergan:



That's not what hppened in On the Beach



On the beach was a good read (read when I was a kid). It is not scientifically accurate since while cross equatorial dispersion is indeed not strong, dispersion of stuff that does get into the other hemisphere is rapid (time scale months)
Quoting 276. HurricaneHunterJoe:

Let's go make a SNOWMAN at the South Rim of Grand Canyon!


I can imagine that is immensely beautiful. I went there last spring and still cannot grasp how *grand* it is indeed.
Quoting 299. RobertWC:

Another one from the Scribblers

Vic / December 21, 2016
Off the edge of the Totten Glacier about 30 metres down. Simply stunning.


U Tube

Indeed beautiful! Thanks for the link.
An underwater robot has captured a rare glimpse beneath the Antarctic sea ice, revealing a thriving, colourful world filled with coconut-shaped sponges, dandelion-like worms, pink encrusting algae and spidery starfish.
Quoting 270. hydrus:

I do know that a gamma ray burst strong enough to harm Earth is a incredible rare event, on the order of hundreds of millions of years, on the other hand, an electromagnetic pulse is a whole different story. There are indications that such pulses do in fact exist, and would be dangerous to the world. One of the very reasons that the NORAD alternate command center is under 2000 feet of granite and designed to sustain a 30 megaton blast, is the electromagnetic pulse associated with nuclear detonations.


I believe so. Electromagnetic pulse ( EMP ) from close call or high altitude burst is fairly well understood.
The large metal laced conductive gasket serves two functions. One is to prevent signal leakage for TEMPEST cert, the other is to prevent incoming signals and rays.
Plus the way the doors are positioned off to the side so they should stay sealed. Any other information is probably classified.
Now as for the rest of us? Hard to say.
I hope there are paper copies of all the weather reports as I will be living like its 1699 again (Voltair's experiments might be hard to duplicate due to a lack of materials. )
Also there is a new EMP resistant concrete that is being certified.
From MarketWatch:

Here’s how your finances will be impacted by climate change

Consumers must adapt economically as the planet warms


The historic boardwalk in the Rockaways was washed away during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, which some scientists say possibly made worse by climate change.

Our planet is warming, putting at risk not only our physical well-being, but our wallets.

2016 is shaping up to be the hottest year on record and scientists say global temperatures may rise by 7 degrees Fahrenheit before the end of the 21st century. As climate change escalates, cities are building sea walls, seeking new water sources for drought-stricken land, and storm-proofing their infrastructure in preparation. But while impending environmental impact of rising temperatures may be the most tangible, the often-overlooked effects on our pocketbooks may be just as worrisome, according to David Stookey, author of new book “Climate-Proof Your Personal Finances” published the Savvy Families Institute, an organization he heads that is based in Rhode Island.

“The physical problems are going to affect relatively few people in America — a much broader number are going to experience these problems financially,” he said. “The physical risks are nothing compared with the financial risks.” For this generation, at least.

A number of people, including president-elect Donald Trump, challenge the concept of climate change and whether it is caused by human activity, but more than 90% of scientists agree it is real and human-caused.

The speed and degree to with climate change will affect us — and what we will do to slow it — is not fully known, but we can begin taking measures now to financially prepare.

Read more: 6 ways to prepare your finances for climate change
306. MahFL
Is wunderground running on an IBM 386 ?
Slowest website on the net !
Come on IBM.....
clearwater fl....60s and 80s all week! thats my ideal of a wintery mix,,,geese we so got it made
Quoting 206. blizzard1024:

Two reasons that the year will be the warmest, one of the strongest El Nino's on record and the +.12C added by Karl et al 2015 to SSTs. Plus your DMI Arctic temperatures uses the ERA40 reanalysis which has been cited as unreliable for long term trends. So comparing a year's Arctic temperatures to the "normal" graph is not accurate. Sea ice has been low no doubt but its all part of the warm phase of the AMO ;and like, in the 1930s when sea ice was low before it will recover in the 2020s and 2030s as the AMO gets to the cold phase.

You forgot to mention the most important news of the time period you reference. On Feb. 30, 2027, the Tooth Fairy marries the Great Pumpkin. They live happily ever after, but the kids aren't much to look at.
Quoting 296. Skyepony:

Merry Solstice Everyone!
90S is looking lively..



Searched the globe for this thing, result 404...
Quoting 307. Tampa969mlb:

clearwater fl....60s and 80s all week! thats my ideal of a wintery mix,,,geese we so got it made


Double geese for West Palm Beach...

Quoting 243. BaltimoreBrian:

Warmer climate threatens northern birds


Ice-melting temperatures forecast for Arctic midwinter
Temperatures in parts of the Arctic are expected to rise above 0C for the second winter in a row
The Guardian, Wednesday 21 December 2016 15.00 GMT
Quoting 304. TechnoCaveman:



I believe so. Electromagnetic pulse ( EMP ) from close call or high altitude burst is fairly well understood.
The large metal laced conductive gasket serves two functions. One is to prevent signal leakage for TEMPEST cert, the other is to prevent incoming signals and rays.
Plus the way the doors are positioned off to the side so they should stay sealed. Any other information is probably classified.
Now as for the rest of us? Hard to say.
I hope there are paper copies of all the weather reports as I will be living like its 1699 again (Voltair's experiments might be hard to duplicate due to a lack of materials. )
Also there is a new EMP resistant concrete that is being certified.
Electromagnetic Fields are one of the strongest forces in the Universe. Magnetic power goes beyond what humans can fathom..We are fortunate that our species lives where it does in the Milky Way...:)
Quoting 299. RobertWC:

Another one from the Scribblers

Vic / December 21, 2016
Off the edge of the Totten Glacier about 30 metres down. Simply stunning.


U Tube
Very cool Robert..Thanks for posting....Earth and her oceans are amazing to say the least.
Quoting 296. Skyepony:

Merry Solstice Everyone!
90S is looking lively..


Morning Skye...I see a happy face in there...People near that may not be smiling..
Quoting 296. Skyepony:

Merry Solstice Everyone!
90S is looking lively..


IT'S Zsa-Zsa's Ghost!
Quoting 287. Forsaken:

This makes me seriously wonder if we didn't just pass a major tipping point of some sort. It's like something "snapped" this year. It could just be a transient anomaly, and come back to the more typical range, but jeez, it is WAY out there right now.


No, its official. Trump is our president.
Quoting 217. nrtiwlnvragn:

The winter solstice is Wednesday: 7 things to know about the shortest day of the year

Excellent article. (And the link has great links!) Thanks for posting it.
Eye-Popping View of CO2, Critical Step for Carbon-Cycle Science

A new NASA supercomputer project builds on the agency's satellite measurements of carbon dioxide and combines them with a sophisticated Earth system model to provide one of the most realistic views yet of how this critical greenhouse gas moves through the atmosphere.

Scientists have tracked the rising concentration of heat-trapping carbon dioxide for decades using ground-based sensors in a few places. A high-resolution visualization of the new combined data product - generated by the Global Modeling and Assimilation Office at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, using data from the agency's Orbiting Carbon Observatory-2 (OCO-2) satellite build and operated by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California - provides an entirely different perspective.

The 3-D visualization reveals in startling detail the complex patterns in which carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increases, decreases and moves around the globe over the course of September 2014 to September 2015.

Why cutting soot emissions is 'fastest solution' to slowing Arctic ice melt
Reducing wood-burning, gas-flaring and global diesel emissions would be ‘quick win’ in combating irreversible climate change, scientists say

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Quoting 319. no1der:

Eye-Popping View of CO2, Critical Step for Carbon-Cycle Science

A new NASA supercomputer project builds on the agency's satellite measurements of carbon dioxide and combines them with a sophisticated Earth system model to provide one of the most realistic views yet of how this critical greenhouse gas moves through the atmosphere.
Scientists have tracked the rising concentration of heat-trapping carbon dioxide for decades using ground-based sensors in a few places. A high-resolution visualization of the new combined data product %u2013 generated by the Global Modeling and Assimilation Office at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, using data from the agency's Orbiting Carbon Observatory-2 (OCO-2) satellite build and operated by NASA%u2019s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California %u2013 provides an entirely different perspective.
The 3-D visualization reveals in startling detail the complex patterns in which carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increases, decreases and moves around the globe over the course of September 2014 to September 2015.

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Yep...And notice 95% of the Co2 is in the Northern Hemisphere, where a vast majority of humans live..Southern Hemisphere is remarkably clean.
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
1000 AM EST WED DEC 21 2016


Excerpts:

...WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS...

THE WESTERN STORM SHOULD SPREAD RAIN AND MOUNTAIN SNOW OVER A LARGE AREA THIS WEEKEND WITH HEAVY SNOW EXPECTED STARTING IN THE RANGES OF CA AND SECONDARY HEAVY SNOW IN THE RANGES OF UT/CO AND THEN OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS ONCE THE LEE CYCLONE DEVELOPS. THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR A FOOT OF SNOW OR MORE IN EACH OF THESE AREAS.

THE SOUTHEAST RIDGE SHOULD KEEP THE LOWER MS VALLEY TO THE SOUTHEAST AND FLORIDA ABOVE AVERAGE BY SEVERAL DEGREES...SO MORE HIGH TEMPERATURE DAILY RECORDS MAY BE TIED OR BROKEN. THE ANOMALIES ALONG THE GULF COAST ARE IN THE MID TEENS DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL DAYS 3-5.
From the " Daily Fail "-



Russia goes nuclear to the North Pole: Reactor-powered ice-breaker will spearhead race to control Arctic in wake of global warming
The craft, which has been named 'Leader', is designed to keep the Northern Sea Route open all year round
The plans were unveiled by Dmitry Rogozin, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia
It would be capable of ploughing through ice that is two metres (6.6 feet) thick at a speed of 29 kph (18 mph)
Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season



Read more: It would have a working capacity of 110 megawatts and would be capable of cutting through ice up to 4.5 metres (14.8 feet) deep.

Leader would allow tankers carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) weighing up to 300,000 tonnes to pass through the Northern Sea Route in any season.

Todays little storm with light amounts of rain forecast



And just maybe a White Christmas at my place in the mountains of Soo Cal



A major winter storm will drop into SoCal from the NW beginning Friday night, and continuing through Saturday night, bringing widespread rain to the region, with heavy snowfall possible in all of the SoCal mountain ranges. Travel conditions on Saturday over the mountains could deteriorate rapidly and become treacherous! Christmas Day will be very cool but dry, and then slightly milder by Monday.
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service San Diego CA
447 AM PST Wed Dec 21 2016

...UNSETTLED WEATHER PATTERN THROUGH CHRISTMAS EVE...
...WINTRY WEATHER HAZARDS POSSIBLE ON SATURDAY WITH TRAVEL IMPACTS
POSSIBLE...

.SYNOPSIS...

Low pressure will slowly move NE along the northern Baja
California coast through tonight, then move east near the US-
Mexico border Thursday morning. This system will bring numerous
showers and a slight chance for thunderstorms through Thursday
morning. Friday will be a mainly dry day, then a major winter
storm will drop into SoCal from the NW beginning Friday night,
continuing through Saturday night, bringing widespread rain to the
region, with heavy snow possible in all of the SoCal mountain
ranges. Travel conditions on Saturday over the mountains could be
treacherous. Christmas Day into early next week is expected to be
slightly milder and dry.

A major winter storm is expected to drop into SoCal Friday night,
and bring impactful weather conditions through Saturday night.
This is by far a much colder storm than we`ve seen so far this wet
season with a 536 DM peak intensity predicted by the EC at 00Z
Sunday. Initially snow levels will be fairly high Friday night,
but gradually lowering during the day Saturday, and by Saturday
evening should be below pass level. The heaviest precipitation
will occur during the day Saturday, especially Saturday morning,
but aggressive wraparound precip should linger into Saturday
night, when cold air will drop snow levels to as low as 3000-3500
ft. Substantial winter weather travel impacts are likely with this
storm Saturday through Saturday night. Below the snow level, there
will also be the potential for heavy rain during a short period of
time coincident with the frontal passage, perhaps conducive to
flooding problems.

In addition to the impacts likely from the moderate to heavy
precip, there will be strong westerly winds Friday night through
Saturday, especially over the mountains and deserts.

Christmas Day should feature drying out across the region but very
cold over the mountains and deserts with cold air in place. Monday
will see some moderation in temperatures. There could be another
cutoff low develop around Tuesday next week with more wacky
weather.
Ghost of cyclones past.....








Current "state of the art".

Quoting 328. daddyjames:

Donald Trump’s 16 Letters To ‘Mad Alex’ Salmond About Wind Turbine ‘Monsters’ In Scotland Revealed By FOI

The letters are there to read as well. At least its not just on Twitter.


To quote the great Bugs Bunny , "What a maroon".
8. “Your economy will become a third world wasteland that investors will avoid”

April 19, 2012: “Wind power does not work,” Trump muses.



Thursday 11 August 2016 07.37 EDT
Scotland's wind turbines cover all its electricity needs for a day
High winds on Sunday boosted renewable energy output to provide 106% of Scotland’s electricity needs for a day

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Been there since yesterday. Interesting. See post 249.

Quoting 330. nrtiwlnvragn:

Ghost of cyclones past.....









http://www.nbc-2.com/story/34101961/weather-blog-ni ne-heat-records-set-this-december

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It would appear the the Great Orange Maroon's golf course is being powered by the wind already.

The Scottish Government site -

Energy in Scotland: Get the facts

Renewables
There are 21,000 jobs in the low carbon and renewable energy economy in Scotland across 9 renewable energy sectors. The largest single sector was onshore wind, followed by solar PV, and heat pumps. Source: The Size and Performance of the UK Low Carbon Economy

Renewable electricity generation in Scotland made up approximately 26% of total UK renewable generation in 2015

Renewables are the single largest contributor to electricity generation in Scotland—higher than both nuclear generation (33%) and fossil fuel generation (28%).

The Scottish Government has an ambitious but achievable target for renewable energy in Scotland to generate the equivalent of 100 per cent of gross annual electricity consumption and 11 per cent of heat consumption by 2020
.

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JeffMasters has created a new entry.
The Guardian seems to be a pretty good operation news-wise. And they are doing what they can to keep the problem of climate-change before the eye of the public, and should be considered an ally of this group. If it is against board policy (I am thinking it's a gray zone) to promote support for an operation that is working to raise awareness about the problem of climate change, go ahead and delete it. Elsewise I got this letter from them this morning, which I almost didn't open, thinking it must be spam. It wasn't:

Dear Skip,

Imagine that the free press disappeared and you got all your news from rumor and social media. Imagine that there was no way to find out who wields power, who profits, who tells the truth, and who lies.

We came close to that this year, with fake news, warped news, timid news, and confirmation-bias bubbles that offered reinforcement instead of challenge. But a free press – one that is independent and unfettered – is crucial to a free society.

Watch the best moments from the Guardian’s 2016 US coverage

(I don't know how to copy the embedded video....MZ)


That’s why I’m writing to thank you for your support of the Guardian in 2016. Like many news publications that care about facts and honest reporting, the Guardian is battling troubling attacks from Donald Trump and his allies. Last week, Breitbart News, the rightwing website founded by Trump’s chief strategist, Steve Bannon, opened a new front in the war over fake news, accusing the Guardian of a liberal media campaign to mislead readers about immigration. Earlier in the week, Newt Gingrich, a longtime advocate for the president-elect, called journalists lying “propagandists” and said Trump supporters were entering a “world in which we get to tell the truth”.

If you’ve studied how societies fall apart and how dictatorships arise, you know that strangling an independent press is key. We talk about governments having intelligence and intelligence agencies, but a free country depends on our intelligence – on our informed understanding of the issues. An independent media is the people’s intelligence agency.

The Guardian we will never normalize Donald Trump’s presidency. In 2017, we'll dedicate our US reporting team to holding the new administration to account. We’ll explore the troubling resurgence of white nationalism globally, and aggressively track the rise of hate crimes and Islamophobia in America. We'll cover threats to reproductive rights and healthcare, concerns about privacy and the surveillance state, and we’ll be watching to see whether hard-won rights, from gay marriage to the reduction in militarized policing, will endure in a Trump presidency.

Trump’s recent string of cabinet appointments have all but extinguished hope for a rational climate policy from the new administration, and pose a threat to the future of the landmark Paris agreement. From investigative reporting on the administration’s ties to the fossil fuel industry, to coverage of the growing climate activism movement, we’ll fight to keep the issue at the top of the agenda.

We must also seek to understand the forces behind Trump’s victory. We'll continue publishing our Anywhere But Washington video series to chart the anxiety and alienation of communities that feel left behind by globalization and America’s growing wealth inequality, and help our audience understand the psychology of Trump’s supporters.

At this pivotal moment in America, I’m proud to write for the Guardian, which has tough and brilliant journalists doing important reporting. There are good grounds for complaint about the mainstream media, which I think of as having not a rightwing or a leftwing bias, but a status quo bias, an inability to see outside its own boxes or to tell stories that rock the boat.

In that sense, the Guardian is not mainstream. It’s in its own way an outsider to the east coast establishment, and though it’s nearly 200 years old, it’s fresh in how it sees the world, willing to assume nothing and question everything, to go farther and ask harder questions.

We are grateful that you are part of our community.

Rebecca Solnit
The Guardian
Quoting 309. cRRKampen:


Searched the globe for this thing, result 404...

Saved it from the rainbow floater this morning. Just rotated it 90deg counterclockwise and zoomed in....Oh it should have been 90S where it was uploaded to..Thanks!
Quoting 308. ACSeattle:


You forgot to mention the most important news of the time period you reference. On Feb. 30, 2027, the Tooth Fairy marries the Great Pumpkin. They live happily ever after, but the kids aren't much to look at.

Really intelligent remark. You need to be reported and banned from this forum. It is suppose to be on topic. There are natural ocean currents that can explains a lot of the Earth's natural variability including the phase of the AMO. Once the AMO grows colder again, colder waters will flow into the Arctic basin and you will see the sea ice recover. This happens from the 1940s into the 1960s....