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Typhoon Wipha's 32 Inches of Rain Kills 17 in Japan

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:59 PM GMT on October 16, 2013

Typhoon Wipha roared past Japan on Tuesday as a Category 1 typhoon, bringing destructive winds and high rains that triggered flooding being blamed for at least 17 deaths. Most of the deaths occurred on Izu Oshima island, about 75 miles south of Tokyo. An astonishing 32.44" (824 mm) fell in just 23 hours on the island, triggering flash floods and mudslides that killed 16 people and left 50 missing. During one incredibly wet 6-hour period, 549.5 mm fell, setting a new 6-hour precipitation record for Japan. The previous record was 502.0 mm at Tarama, Okinawa, on April 28, 1988. According to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, the 24-hour total at Oshima Island was the third highest 24-hour rainfall for Japan on record; the record is 851.5 mm at Yanase (Kochi Prefecture) on 19 July 2011, and 2nd place is the 844 mm that fell at Takeshi (Nara) on 1 August 1982. Tokyo received 9.69" (246 mm) of rain in 19 hours from Wipha, with winds that reached 50 mph, gusting to 72 mph. At the time Wipha was deluging Tokyo, the typhoon was merging with a cold front and undergoing the transition to an extratropical storm--the same process Hurricane Sandy underwent as it approached landfall in New Jersey in October 2012. The counter-clockwise flow of air around the center of Wipha lifted up copious amounts of tropical moisture over a cold front over Japan, resulting the near-record rainfall amounts observed.


Figure 1. A house and an electric pole smashed by large rocks from a collapsed slope caused by heavy rain in Kamakura, suburban Tokyo on October 16, 2013. JIJI PRESS/AFP/Getty Images


Figure 2. Extreme rainfall of 33.44" in 24 hours from Typhoon Wipha hit Oshima Island, Japan, about 75 miles south of Tokyo, on October 16, 2013. At least 16 people died in this landslide, and 50 are missing. JIJI PRESS/AFP/Getty Images

Tropical Storm Francisco is headed towards Japan
It's been an active October for typhoons in the Western Pacific, and there is at least one more typhoon on the way. Tropical Storm Francisco has formed in the waters east of the Philippines, and is forecast to become a major Category 4 typhoon by Sunday as it heads north-northwest towards Japan. Both the GFS and European models predict that Francisco will come very close to Japan on Wednesday, October 23. Satellite images show that Francisco has already developed an impressive area of heavy thunderstorms with very cold cloud tops, and is strengthening. Francisco's formation gives the Western Pacific 27 named storms so far in 2013. That is the average number of named storms the Western Pacific sees during an entire year. The last time there were more than 27 tropical storms or typhoons in the West Pacific was in 2004, when there were 32.

Wipha's place in history
Wipha is the fourth named storm to hit Japan so far in 2013, and the deadliest typhoon to hit Japan since Typhoon Tokage of October 2004. The other named storms to hit Japan in 2013 were Tropical Storm Man-Yi on September 16, Tropical Storm Toraji on September 4, and Typhoon Danas, which hit Okinawa on October 7. An average of 2.8 tropical storms or typhoons per year hit Japan during the period 1951 - 2003. Japan's record busiest year was 2004, when ten named storms hit, six of them at Category 1 or higher strength. Jeffrey Hayes has put together a nice summary of Japan's typhoon history. The CIMSS Satellite Blog has an interesting analysis of Wipha.

The Atlantic is quiet
None of the reliable computer models for forecasting tropical cyclone genesis is predicting development over the next five days. NHC is giving 10% odds that a blob of disturbed weather near Bermuda headed north to northeast out to sea will develop.

Jeff Masters

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Reader Comments

Morning all.


502. yoboi
Quoting 500. PensacolaDoug:
I gotta go to work here shortly Nea! Tell me where I'm going wrong here! I know you have already read posts. If it was someone posting AGW skeptic stuff, you'd be all over it by now!



Could be looking for the hidden heat.....
503. vis0
Any weather maps (URL) showing fronts during the Philippines during yesterdays 7.0 Earthquake. NOT linking weather to other natural disasters just need some info.
504. VR46L
Quoting 503. vis0:
Any weather maps (URL) showing fronts during the Philippines during yesterdays 7.0 Earthquake. NOT linking weather to other natural disasters just need some info.


I don't have what you are looking for to hand but this may be a start

weather com Philapines
Rain and cold front limp to East Coast

Oct .17, 2013 5:20 am ET

Northeast


- A weak storm and cold front push through the region Thursday and Thursday night.

- Light rain and showers move into western areas during the day and move toward the coast during the evening.

- The rain and showers push off the coast with the cold front late Thursday night.

- Residual showers linger in northern New England behind the front Friday.

- Temperatures remain warm east of the rain Thursday with highs in the 70s from Virginia to southwest Maine.

- Cooler 60s are expected from West Virginia to northern New England
Quoting 485. PensacolaDoug:
Nea writes:

I wouldn't be so sure. In that little snippet, Bastardi managed to twice refer to having 'debunked' the IPCC

Here are the two IPCC references.

1. The drop in mixing ratios over the tropics, which by the way is opposite the IPCC trapping hot spot theory, has been going on since 2007



2. The Saharan dust is because of the abnormal build up of higher pressures, which is a sign of sinking, all of this a sign of the drying that is taking place, which takes us back to the IPCC trapping hot spot being debunked in front of our very eyes.

I don't see where JB claims to have debunked the IPCC.
He does say that the trapping hot spot theory
is being debunked in front of our very eyes. Big difference Nea.

Why don't you defend the theory and show us where JB is wrong instead of just attacking?
I wasn't "attacking", Dougie; I just merely noted that things written by those suffering from delusions of grandeur are best looked upon with great skepticism. That's all. That doesn't mean everything they say or write is necessarily wrong. But seeking corroboration and verification via deeper and more objective thinkers is always good advice...
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT THU OCT 17 2013

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 200 MILES
NORTH-NORTHEAST OF BERMUDA IS PRODUCING DISORGANIZED SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS. THE LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE NORTHEASTWARD NEAR OR
ALONG A FRONTAL BOUNDARY OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC DURING THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS...AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS REMAIN UNFAVORABLE
FOR SUBTROPICAL OR TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION. THIS SYSTEM HAS A
LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A SUBTROPICAL OR TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...
OF BECOMING A SUBTROPICAL OR TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 5
DAYS.
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT THU OCT 17 2013

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER HAS ISSUED THE LAST ADVISORY ON
TROPICAL DEPRESSION PRISCILLA...LOCATED WELL WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE
SOUTHERN TIP OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA.

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

OTHER SYSTEMS WITH FORMATION POTENTIAL BEYOND 48 HOURS...

A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED OVER THE FAR EASTERN PACIFIC
NEAR CENTRAL AMERICA IS PRODUCING DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME CONDUCIVE
FOR SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT BY LATE ON THE WEEKEND OR EARLY NEXT
WEEK. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A MEDIUM
CHANCE...30 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 5 DAYS WHILE IT MOVES SLOWLY WESTWARD.
Anyway, this hasn't been written of for awhile, so for those who may have missed it, our Bermuda-area AOI:

BEGIN
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NOTIFY=ATRP
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INVEST, AL, L, , , , , 99, 2013, DB, O, 2013101706, 9999999999, , , , , , METWATCH, , AL992013
AL, 99, 2013101606, , BEST, 0, 305N, 656W, 20, 1012, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2013101612, , BEST, 0, 309N, 652W, 20, 1012, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2013101618, , BEST, 0, 315N, 650W, 25, 1010, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2013101700, , BEST, 0, 322N, 648W, 30, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 99, 2013101706, , BEST, 0, 331N, 647W, 30, 1008, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 110, 50, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
Quoting 506. Neapolitan:
I wasn't "attacking", Dougie; I just merely noted that things written by those suffering from delusions of grandeur are best looked upon with great skepticism. That's all. That doesn't mean everything they say or write is necessarily wrong. But seeking corroboration and verification via deeper and more objective thinkers is always good advice...



That's the best ya got? Deflect and smear? OK.

What about the other post?
Quoting 464. Bluestorm5:
So rude... just because you hate the major doesn't mean you can take it out on others!

I don't think you caught the intended humor in his post.
Good, Guam is taking measures to keep the children safe.

@GuamPDN : WEATHER UPDATE: All public schools are closed tomorrow. Government of Guam agencies will also be closed. http://t.co/V6n0guNL75

44 minutes ago^
Typhoon Francisco has continued to rapidly intensify since yesterday and appears to be closing in on the Category 3 equivalency threshold.

So I'm assuming, and I don't like to assume, that hurricane season is likely over for the states of LA, TX and probably MS or even AL? FL just hangs out too low to possibly miss something from the East edge. How many storms have even entered the Gulf this year? Guess I was just surprised to see a lower than average storm count especially in the Gulf area.
Good Morning/Evening,

Gator, is some of the central China cloud cover, the city smog I have read about?

Japan an the Philippines have already had a bad Florida style Typhoon season. Now another is parked waiting to chose which country to smack.
I think Japan called tails.
Quoting 491. sflweatherguy:
pRO
Also  in the Philippines Spanish is one of their secondary languages as
it at one time belonged to Spain From 1565 to 1821, the Philippines was governed as a territory of the Viceroyalty of New Spain



Nobody speaks spanish in the Philippines except the teachers. It is not a secondary language. There are some loan words in the Tagalog, in the Cebuano and most of all, there is a pidgin called Chabacano in the Zaboanga area which has lots of Spanish words with a polynesian structure of the sentence. This is not intelegible with Spanish at all.
Quoting 516. JasonRE:
So I'm assuming, and I don't like to assume, that hurricane season is likely over for the states of LA, TX and probably MS or even AL? FL just hangs out too low to possibly miss something from the East edge. How many storms have even entered the Gulf this year? Guess I was just surprised to see a lower than average storm count especially in the Gulf area.


I would not say this season is over, but there will be only 2 or 3 named storms possible over the remainder of this season. As for the gulf, a few reached there (notably TS Andrea and TS Karen).
From Wikipedia over the name of this system, as I see some people are confused about it...

The name Francisco has been used to name three tropical cyclones in the northwestern Pacific Ocean. The name was contributed by the United States of America, and is a male given name in the Chamorro language.
2013 Atlantic hurricane season so far:

12 TD, 11 TS, 2 Hurricanes, 0 majors.

Images not working?

Excerpt from Miami NWS Disco...I hope so!

THE COLD FRONT WILL THEN GET PUSHED DOWN THE SUNSHINE STATE
SOMETIME DURING THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK, AND THROUGH SOUTH FLORIDA
LATE NEXT WEEK, AS LOW PRESSURE SWINGS THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES AND
INTO THE NORTHEAST UNITED STATES. THIS COULD BRING A MUCH COOLER
AND DRIER AIR MASS TO SOUTH FLORIDA FOR LATE NEXT WEEK.
The forecast for next Thursday Night!!:)
Low of 54F.
GFS spins up a low over the Great Lakes, possibily giving me some winter weather.

Quoting 521. Torito:
2013 Atlantic hurricane season so far:

12 TD, 11 TS, 2 Hurricanes, 0 majors.



And only 2 storms worth looking at.
Quoting 514. TropicalAnalystwx13:
Typhoon Francisco has continued to rapidly intensify since yesterday and appears to be closing in on the Category 3 equivalency threshold.

Wow, I went off for a few days after Wipha waned down and now I'm greeted with a rather strong Francisco...
Fantastyland. I freeze, and look at what is at the bottom of the map.

Quoting 516. JasonRE:
So I'm assuming, and I don't like to assume, that hurricane season is likely over for the states of LA, TX and probably MS or even AL? FL just hangs out too low to possibly miss something from the East edge. How many storms have even entered the Gulf this year? Guess I was just surprised to see a lower than average storm count especially in the Gulf area.
That was just the main stream media programming your brain to think a certain way.If they can do that, who knows what garbage you could allow to enter your brain. I was hoping for it, but it just did not get that hot this year.
Good morning everyone...quiet on the lightning front.



Possible storm in the Western Caribbean by the end of the month. With all these fronts coming down it makes sense that something will try to develop on the tail end of that and meander around.

Quoting 514. TropicalAnalystwx13:
Typhoon Francisco has continued to rapidly intensify since yesterday and appears to be closing in on the Category 3 equivalency threshold.

That thing is sucking in moisture from all directions. The south Band is impressive. I really hope it skirts Japan so we all do not get an extra dose of Vitamin Caesium - 137.
Good Morning. Just noting that the Pacific Basin certainly has not disappointed (both the E-Pac and West-Pac) this year as opposed to the Atlantic season; not the respective football conferences.........
Quoting 531. GTstormChaserCaleb:
Good morning everyone...quiet on the lightning front.



Possible storm in the Western Caribbean by the end of the month. With all these fronts coming down it makes sense that something will try to develop on the tail end of that and meander around.


I can't wait it's starting to get boring
Quoting 506. Neapolitan:
I wasn't "attacking", Dougie; I just merely noted that things written by those suffering from delusions of grandeur are best looked upon with great skepticism. That's all. That doesn't mean everything they say or write is necessarily wrong. But seeking corroboration and verification via deeper and more objective thinkers is always good advice...

Every single (and I mean every single) chance you get to attack and smear JB you get you take. Every time. It never fails with you. Oh, except when he is right. Then, you are silent. But when he is wrong - and yes, he is like any other meterologist - you pounce on it like a lion on prey.

I know deep down you know that JB is probably more correct that you would like to realize. And that eats you up inside. That kills ya. You wanna know why? Because he is such an outspoken person in regards to not agreeing with everything you believe in with GW.

I can see right through you. It's very easy. And you wanna know what? Most people can too. You post with a big sign on your chest saying "Don't disagree with me about my GW theory" or I will degrade, belittle, and undermine another's credibility. You post things on here intentionally to piss people off.

Why do you live like that??
Quoting 535. DealWithIt:

Every single (and I mean every single) chance you get to attack and smear JB you get you take. Every time. It never fails with you. Oh, except when he is right. Then, you are silent. But when he is wrong - and yes, he is like any other meterologist - you pounce on it like a lion on prey.

I know deep down you know that JB is probably more correct that you would like to realize. And that eats you up inside. That kills ya. You wanna know why? Because he is such an outspoken person in regards to not agreeing with everything you believe in with GW.

I can see right through you. It's very easy. And you wanna know what? Most people can too. You post with a big sign on your chest saying "Don't disagree with me about my GW theory" or I will degrade, belittle, and undermine another's credibility. You post things on here intentionally to piss people off.

Why do you live like that??


Because Nea is the type who wants to think he is always right, and doesn't like being conflicted.

Honestly, the same can be applied to all the ice age doomers on this blog as well.
Quoting 535. DealWithIt:

Every single (and I mean every single) chance you get to attack and smear JB you get you take. Every time. It never fails with you. Oh, except when he is right. Then, you are silent. But when he is wrong - and yes, he is like any other meterologist - you pounce on it like a lion on prey.

I know deep down you know that JB is probably more correct that you would like to realize. And that eats you up inside. That kills ya. You wanna know why? Because he is such an outspoken person in regards to not agreeing with everything you believe in with GW.

I can see right through you. It's very easy. And you wanna know what? Most people can too. You post with a big sign on your chest saying "Don't disagree with me about my GW theory" or I will degrade, belittle, and undermine another's credibility. You post things on here intentionally to piss people off.

Why do you live like that??


Why should I waste my time any more than I already have? You have already demonstrated yourself to be disingenuous with respect to the subject and topic of this post. There is no there there.
Quoting 535. DealWithIt:

Every single (and I mean every single) chance you get to attack and smear JB you get you take. Every time. It never fails with you. Oh, except when he is right. Then, you are silent. But when he is wrong - and yes, he is like any other meterologist - you pounce on it like a lion on prey.

I know deep down you know that JB is probably more correct that you would like to realize. And that eats you up inside. That kills ya. You wanna know why? Because he is such an outspoken person in regards to not agreeing with everything you believe in with GW.

I can see right through you. It's very easy. And you wanna know what? Most people can too. You post with a big sign on your chest saying "Don't disagree with me about my GW theory" or I will degrade, belittle, and undermine another's credibility. You post things on here intentionally to piss people off.

Why do you live like that??

I hit the ! button on your post. Not because I disagree with you because so off topic not even funny. I have weather to follow and don't needa see this at 9:15 in the morning.

Cheers.

Barbara
Quoting 524. SFLWeatherman:
The forecast for next Thursday Night!!:)
Low of 54F.
I cant wait..wont That feel great huh


Video Forecast for West Palm Beach

Hurricanes can form on the end of stalled cold fronts.
Quoting 540. GeoffreyWPB:


Video Forecast for West Palm Beach


Careful, with the "new" blog topic rules the only thing you can currently post is on "hurricane". "Cold" is off topic :)
Quoting 542. nrtiwlnvragn:


Careful, with the "new" blog topic rules the only thing you can currently post is on "hurricane". "Cold" is off topic :)


These new "rules" wont last long. :)
Scott may have been right,rain chances going up in the 7-day..
Hmmm could get a bit stormy..this the following saturday..
ok so next week gets interesting around here huh...
Quoting 506. Neapolitan:
I wasn't "attacking", Dougie; I just merely noted that things written by those suffering from delusions of grandeur are best looked upon with great skepticism. That's all. That doesn't mean everything they say or write is necessarily wrong. But seeking corroboration and verification via deeper and more objective thinkers is always good advice...

Ya gotta wonder if JB will *ever* get the difference between weather and climate --or if he's overcome his difficulty in reading graphs. :)
Ok Fantasyland But..................
Newspaper photo's from down here...









Quoting 537. JohnLonergan:


Why should I waste my time any more than I already have? You have already demonstrated yourself to be disingenuous with respect to the subject and topic of this post. There is no there there.



Why would you be answering for the ice cream man? Hmmmm..
fall weather is here!!! we have a new INVEST 99L to this morning!
Quoting 552. AussieStorm:
Newspaper photo's from down here...











I saw this from from the Sidney Morning Herald:

Danger rockets to catastrophic as winds catch bureau unawares

he strength of Thursday's winds caught authorities on the hop, with the fire danger only rated "severe" rather than "extreme", as had been forecast for the previous Sunday's heat spike.
Bankstown, for instance, recorded 95 km/h winds, the strongest there for at least 10 years, said Ben McBurney, a meteorologist with Weatherzone.

"The bureau didn't expect wind speeds to go quite as high as they did," he said.
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Humidity across the basin also fell as low as 10 per cent. "That's probably what led to these fires getting out of control," said McBurney.
Many areas saw their fire danger ratings rocket to "catastrophic", including for Richmond and Sydney Airport. Camden also had a "catastrophic" rating, the highest in 11 years.


Read more:Link
Quoting 553. PensacolaDoug:



Why would you be answering for the ice cream man? Hmmmm..


We are all just secondary handles of Neapolitan, obviously. ;)

On a side note, is it getting solipsistic in here, or is it just me? :rimshot:
The tropics this morning are as dead as dead can be. What a bust of a season. Ugh!
Quoting 558. HurriHistory:
The tropics this morning are as dead as dead can be. What a bust of a season. Ugh!
I agree.
Quoting 544. LargoFl:
Scott may have been right,rain chances going up in the 7-day..


Hey Largo, Remember what I said yesterday.

561. SLU
Dewpoints into the low to mid 70's today.

Quoting 562. StormTrackerScott:
Dewpoints into the low to mid 70's today.



Yeah, I woke up and my screened in patio was completely soaked.
I got down to 62 lest night!:)
Quoting 562. StormTrackerScott:
Dewpoints into the low to mid 70's today.

Well...

Driest september ever recorded : 2012.

2nd driest september : 2013.

I DON'T LIKE THAT!!! HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT A TREND...

So far october 2013 is very dry! The little rain at the beginning of the month didn't last, and the dry weather came back in force. THANKS 98L WE APPRECIATE (irony... of course)!
Quoting 557. Naga5000:


We are all just secondary handles of Neapolitan, obviously. ;)

On a side note, is it getting solipsistic in here, or is it just me? :rimshot:





553 is a fair question.


Really looks like an EL NINO. Dry.

Lol it reminds me of 2009... but unfortunately it doesn't look like 2014 will be another 2010 in terms of rainfall...
Guam

Finally I found what I was looking for. :)

Computer models for Hurricane Charley.



Legend:
AVNO (GFS) - Dark Green
BAMD - Purple
BAMM - Dark Red (closest to actual track)
BAMS - Peach
CLIP - Light Green
CLIP5 - Turquiose (outlier)
CMC - Blue
GFDL - Light Pink
LBAR - Pink
NOGAPS - Green
SHIP - Orange
UKMET - Light Blue

Basically, there seemed to have been a common misconception that the forecast models had completely blown the storm, when that wasn't totally true, the fact is some of the models indeed had Charley going over SW FL. rather than further up the West Coast. Problem is people focus too much on the line when SW FL. was in the cone of uncertainty when Charley had emerged into the GOM, North of Cuba.
Quoting 564. SFLWeatherman:
I got down to 62 lest night!:)



In the low to mid 70's all last night. Makes no sense that it was 62 in West Palm Beach when it was 72 in Orlando for a low. Maybe your temp gauge was by the fridge.
Quoting 563. Naga5000:


Yeah, I woke up and my screened in patio was completely soaked.


This one guy from S FL says it was 62 last night and that makes no sense that it was 10 to 12 degrees warmer up in C FL.
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting 535. DealWithIt:

Every single (and I mean every single) chance you get to attack and smear JB you get you take. Every time. It never fails with you. Oh, except when he is right. Then, you are silent. But when he is wrong - and yes, he is like any other meterologist - you pounce on it like a lion on prey.

I know deep down you know that JB is probably more correct that you would like to realize. And that eats you up inside. That kills ya. You wanna know why? Because he is such an outspoken person in regards to not agreeing with everything you believe in with GW.

I can see right through you. It's very easy. And you wanna know what? Most people can too. You post with a big sign on your chest saying "Don't disagree with me about my GW theory" or I will degrade, belittle, and undermine another's credibility. You post things on here intentionally to piss people off.

Why do you live like that??
I see you've posted this exact same comment in the admin blog. I want you to know that, while I'm flattered I am the sole subject of 40% of the comments made by a member who's been here two years, such attention makes me genuinely uncomfortable.

Now, I generally don't respond to such ad hominem attacks, as a) they are against forum rules, and b) they pretty much speak for themselves without additional commentary from moi. However, I have to take issue with a few things you said.

1) I've made 12,000 plus comments. Of those, JB has probably been the primary or secondary subject maybe three dozen times. Therefore, your statement that I take "every single (and I mean every single) chance [I] get to attack and smear JB" is obviously far from the truth. And the same could be said had JB been the subject of three-hundred--or even three-thousand--of those comments. Know what I mean?

2) I have given JB his due when it's been called for. It's just that it's so seldom called for that you most likely missed it.

3) As has been amply demonstrated here and elsewhere, I save my belittling for those who exhibit a desire to speak out against the science of climate change. True skeptics--of which there are very few--get my respect. Those who are new to the issue and have basic and innocent questions get my kind attention. But those who insist on repeating oft-debunked and discredited blather aren't often treated so nicely. Just think of it as my little gift to society... ;-)

4) So far as "undermining another's credibility", I seldom bother, as the people I'm talking about have usually already done a far better job on their own than I could ever do.

Again, thanks for your interest. Have a nice day...
Quoting 524. SFLWeatherman:
The forecast for next Thursday Night!!:)
Low of 54F.

Where are you getting that information? None of the forecasts I see even have temperatures below 60F.
Quoting 535. DealWithIt:
?

JB is a poster child for narcissism.
Quoting 573. Neapolitan:
I see you've posted this exact same comment in the admin blog. I want you to know that, while I'm flattered I am the sole subject of 40% of the comments made by a member who's been here two years, such attention makes me genuinely uncomfortable.

Now, I generally don't respond to such ad hominem attacks, as a) they are against forum rules, and b) they pretty much speak for themselves without additional commentary from moi. However, I have to take issue with a few things you said.

1) I've made 12,000 plus comments. Of those, JB has probably been the primary or secondary subject maybe three dozen times. Therefore, your statement that I take "every single (and I mean every single) chance [I] get to attack and smear JB" is obviously far from the truth. And the same could be said had JB been the subject of three-hundred--or even three-thousand--of those comments. Know what I mean?

2) I have given JB his due when it's been called for. It's just that it's so seldom called for that you most likely missed it.

3) As has been amply demonstrated here and elsewhere, I save my belittling for those who exhibit a desire to speak out against the science of climate change. True skeptics--of which there are very few--get my respect. Those who are new to the issue and have basic and innocent questions get my kind attention. But those who insist on repeating oft-debunked and discredited blather aren't often treated so nicely. Just think of it as my little gift to society... ;-)

4) So far as "undermining another's credibility", I seldom bother, as the people I'm talking about have usually already done a far better job on their own than I could ever do.

Again, thanks for your interest. Have a nice day...
if i had a nickel for everytime you skate around the truth, i would be a rich southern bell. your obsession with JB is scary...... is it the muscles? the fame? the popularity???????????
Quoting 572. WunderAlertBot:
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
This looks like winter to me..:)
Quoting 575. bappit:

JB is a poster child for narcissism.





Nah, Obama is.
Quoting 576. SCConiferousForest:
if i had a nickel for everytime you skate around the truth, i would be a rich southern bell. your obsession with JB is scary...... is it the muscles? the fame? the popularity???????????
I wouldn't call it obsession; more a disappointment. And it's based only on his oft-demonstrated, ideologically-driven lack of understanding of the planet's climate systems, which is inversely proportional to the knowledge he seems to believe he has...
Quoting 580. Neapolitan:
I wouldn't call it obsession; more a disappointment. And it's based only on his oft-demonstrated, ideologically-driven lack of understanding of the planet's climate systems, which is inversely proportional to the knowledge he seems to believe he has...

I wouldn't go that far as to suggest that. Last time I checked they don't hand out high level degrees in atmospheric science for being a dum-dum. Maybe at IFAIL U. He is very well versed in weather....more so than many on here. Doc Masters doesn't have a degree in climatology, niether does Joe B. But he knows just as much as Doc M. if not more...

Thanks for the reply though. ;) I think we are in the blog next door...doc wrote a new one. Maybe we can discuss in there...
Quoting 581. SCConiferousForest:

I wouldn't go that far as to suggest that. Last time I checked they don't hand out high level degrees in atmospheric science for being a dum-dum. Maybe at IFAIL U. He is very well versed in weather....more so than many on here. Doc Masters doesn't have a degree in climatology, niether does Joe B. But he knows just as much as Doc M. if not more...

Thanks for the reply though. ;) I think we are in the blog next door...doc wrote a new one. Maybe we can discuss in there...
FWIW, there's absolutely no rule that states we must move over to a new blog entry when it's posted, so if it's all the same to you, I'll keep this here.

So long as you're comparing educational experience, you should know that JB has a Bachelor degree in Meteorology, while Dr. Masters holds a PhD in meteorology (hence the "Dr." part, something that is conspicuously absent from JB's title). The difference is roughly equivalent to an eighth-grader and a high school graduate. FYI...
Quoting 578. hydrus:
This looks like winter to me..:)


Winter sucks though. :(