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Can a Sharknado hit Los Angeles?

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:38 PM GMT on July 17, 2013

I learned something from watching the movie "Sharknado", SyFy Channel's twisted cross between Jaws, The Day After Tomorrow, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which premiered last Thursday (and will be aired again this Thursday.) My hurricane disaster kit is incomplete without a chainsaw. Not only can a chainsaw come in handy to remove fallen debris after the storm--it can be an essential self-defense weapon in case a hurricane spawns a "Sharknado"--a powerful waterspout that picks up man-eating sharks out of the ocean and hurls them miles inland.



"Sharknado" is set in Los Angeles, where huge and dangerous Hurricane David is making landfall. The satellite images of the hurricane show a very nasty-looking storm that is at least Category 3, but has the rather unusual (and impossible) characteristic that it spins clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere. Thousands of bloodthirsty sharks swarm inland with the hurricane's storm surge and are hurled through the air by the EF-4 waterspouts turned tornadoes that accompany the storm. A lot of blood spurts, a lot of bad acting and lame dialog occur, and plenty of improbable or impossible meteorological events happen--complete with cheesy computer graphic animations. ("Sharknado" seriously challenges The Day After Tomorrow for greatest number of impossible meteorological events packed into a single movie.) But, as long as you don't take the movie too seriously, and look at it as a campy low-budget parody of both disaster movies and horror movies, "Sharknado" is a hoot. I give "Sharknado" two stars (out of four.) The movie is produced by "B" movie studio Asylum, and stars Ian Ziering and Tara Reid. "Sharknado" is airing again at 7pm EDT/6pm CDT on Thursday, July 18, on the SyFy Channel.


Figure 1. Hurricane Linda heads north along the Baja California coast towards towards San Diego on September 12, 1997, as seen by the NOAA GOES-9 satellite. Images and rendering by Marit Jentoft-Nilsen of NASA.

Hurricanes do occur in Southern California
Southern California has been affected by one full-fledged hurricane in recorded history, a Category 1 storm that brought 80 mph winds to San Diego on October 2, 1858. More recently, a 1939 tropical storm brought 52 mph winds to the coast south of Los Angeles, and caused $2 million in property damage--mostly to shipping, shore structures, power and communication lines, and crops. Forty-five lives were lost at sea during the storm. Hurricane Linda of 1997, which occurred during a strong El Niño event that significantly warmed the ocean waters along the Mexican Pacific coast, was forecast by the National Hurricane Center for a couple of advisories to make landfall near San Diego as a minimal hurricane or strong tropical storm. Category 5 Linda was the strongest hurricane ever observed in the Eastern Pacific Ocean, but weakened over cold water and turned out to sea without affecting Southern California. A Category 3 or stronger storm affecting Southern California, as depicted in "Sharknado", is pretty much impossible in the current climate, though. The California Current that flows southwards along the coast of California and Baja Mexico features waters temperatures that are too cold to support a major hurricane.

Falls of fish from the sky
There have been numerous reports of waterspouts or tornadoes picking up fish out of the sea or out of lakes and creating a "rain of fish." For example, hundreds of perch bombarded residents of the small Australian outback town of Lajamanu in 2010. In the U.S., thousands of small fish, frogs and crayfish fell from the sky during a rainstorm at Magnolia Terminal near Thomasville, Alabama, on the morning of June 28, 1957. Many of the fish were alive and were placed in ponds and swimming pools. An F2 tornado fifteen miles to the south spawned by the outer bands of Hurricane Audrey was likely responsible for getting the creatures airborne. William Corliss' intriguing book, "Handbook of Unusual Natural Phenomena", has an entire chapter devoted to unusual creatures and objects that have fallen from the sky. He relates that in 1946, a scientist at the American Museum of Natural History named E. W. Gudger documented 78 reliable reports of fish falls from all over the world. The largest fish was a large-mouthed bass 9 1/4 inches long, and the heaviest was a six pound fish that fell in India. There were no reports of large, 2000-pound great white sharks, as depicted by "Sharknado", though. Wunderground, for now, has decided not to create a new "Sharknado" weather icon for the web site, due to the low probability of such an event occurring with the current laws of physics being what they are.


Video 1. Official trailer for "Sharknado."

Jeff Masters

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The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

1001. LargoFl
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

.THUNDERSTORM IMPACT...
DEEP MOISTURE WILL LIFT NORTH ACROSS THE AREA AND PRODUCE
SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND LIGHTNING STORMS. THE FOCUS
WILL INITIALLY BE ALONG THE SPACE AND TREASURE COASTS THIS MORNING
THEN TRANSITION INLAND TO THE INTERIOR. WHILE SEVERE STORMS ARE
NOT EXPECTED...A FEW STORMS WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING GUSTY WET
DOWNBURSTS ALONG WITH DANGEROUS LIGHTNING STRIKES AND HEAVY RAIN.

.FLOOD IMPACT...
A MOIST EAST TO SOUTHEAST FLOW WILL SUPPORT LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN
LIFTING NORTH ALONG THE TREASURE AND SPACE COASTS THIS MORNING...
MAINLY SOUTH OF THE CAPE. THE THREAT FOR HEAVY RAIN WILL SHIFT
INLAND DURING THE DAY. LOCALIZED RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 3 INCHES
WILL BE POSSIBLE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME CAUSING TEMPORARY
FLOODING OF SOME ROADS AND LOW LYING AREAS. MOST AREAS WILL SEE
RAINFALL AMOUNTS LESS THAN ONE HALF INCH.
1002. LargoFl
oh boy more strong storms today for us................
Goood Morning!

6:33 am (10:33 GMT)

The sun makes a futile effort at breaking through the clouds in Lantana, Florida. Another early morning rain shower contributed the bulk of yesterday's rainfall, logged in as 0.32". It's amazing this one little sliver of land has escaped the torrential rains that all the areas around it have endured. Too bad, since we're one of the few places that can handle big-time rain events - we never flood*, it all just flows into the Intracoastal.

* Storm surge would be an obvious exception.



The NWS:
Today A chance of showers and thunderstorms before 11am, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm between 11am and 2pm, then a chance of showers after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 85. Southeast wind 5 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Wunderground:
Thursday
Mostly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain showers, then a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain in the afternoon. High of 88F. Winds from the SE at 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60% with rainfall amounts near 0.4 in. possible.

Nice to see they're in full agreement, which means it probably won't rain at all. Well, we all know the best way to see if it's going to rain - all you have to do is...look up!


1004. LargoFl
Issued by The National Weather Service
Miami, FL
8:02 am EDT, Thu., Jul. 18, 2013

... MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 AM EDT...

FOR THE FOLLOWING AREAS... WATERS FROM DEERFIELD BEACH TO OCEAN REEF FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM EXCLUDING THE TERRITORIAL WATERS OF BAHAMAS COASTAL WATERS FROM DEERFIELD BEACH TO OCEAN REEF FL OUT 20 NM COASTAL WATERS FROM JUPITER INLET TO DEERFIELD BEACH FL OUT 20 NM BISCAYNE BAY WATERS FROM JUPITER INLET TO DEERFIELD BEACH FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM

AT 759 AM EDT... NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED CONDITIONS FAVORABLE FOR WATERSPOUTS IN A LINE OF SHOWERS ACROSS BISCAYNE BAY AND THE NEAR SHORE ATLANTIC WATERS TO THE EAST OF MIAMI DADE AND BROWARD COUNTIES.

WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE WITH THIS ACTIVITY. REMAIN ON THE ALERT IN CASE WARNINGS ARE ISSUED FOR WATERSPOUT DEVELOPMENT.
1005. LargoFl
...LOCALIZED STREET FLOODING POSSIBLE AGAIN TODAY...

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTH FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

FLOODING: LOCALIZED STREET FLOODING IS POSSIBLE AGAIN TODAY WHERE
HEAVIER RAINS OCCUR. SOILS ARE SATURATED FROM THE RECENT HEAVY
RAINFALL, SO IT WILL NOT TAKE MUCH TO CAUSE LOCALIZED FLOODING OF
STREETS AND POORLY DRAINED AREAS.
According to the lil weather station in my backyard I got 5.04 inches yesterday here in Coral Springs, FL . And more is forecasted today. smh
Quoting 954. VR46L:
This is kinda cool 95W




Thats a very small but very tight low level vortex. Looks alot like ones that you see if an already named storm has all its convection stripped off.


Where is that exactly atlantic or epac?
Quoting 1003. mikatnight:
Goood Morning!

6:33 am (10:33 GMT)

The sun makes a futile effort at breaking through the clouds in Lantana, Florida. Another early morning rain shower contributed the bulk of yesterday's rainfall, logged in as 0.32". It's amazing this one little sliver of land has escaped the torrential rains that all the areas around it have endured. Too bad, since we're one of the few places that can handle big-time rain events - we never flood*, it all just flows into the Intracoastal.

* Storm surge would be an obvious exception.



The NWS:
Today A chance of showers and thunderstorms before 11am, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm between 11am and 2pm, then a chance of showers after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 85. Southeast wind 5 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Wunderground:
Thursday
Mostly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain showers, then a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain in the afternoon. High of 88F. Winds from the SE at 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60% with rainfall amounts near 0.4 in. possible.

Nice to see they're in full agreement, which means it probably won't rain at all. Well, we all know the best way to see if it's going to rain - all you have to do is...look up!



Oh my! That blue clouded sky in the background is something. It's always nice to know you have good drainage and don't have to worry about flooding! :)

Little Dexter looks like he's looking at you wanting a treat!

Natalie
New Drought Monitor

Quoting 1008. SouthernIllinois:

Oh my! That blue clouded sky in the background is something. It's always nice to know you have good drainage and don't have to worry about flooding! :)

Little Dexter looks like he's looking at you wanting a treat!

Natalie


You should be a detective! The jig is up, I grabbed a crab from him and held it up so I could get him to look at the camera. Why do all of the sudden I feel like William Hurt in Broadcast News?
Quoting 1003. mikatnight:
Goood Morning!

6:33 am (10:33 GMT)

The sun makes a futile effort at breaking through the clouds in Lantana, Florida. Another early morning rain shower contributed the bulk of yesterday's rainfall, logged in as 0.32". It's amazing this one little sliver of land has escaped the torrential rains that all the areas around it have endured. Too bad, since we're one of the few places that can handle big-time rain events - we never flood*, it all just flows into the Intracoastal.

* Storm surge would be an obvious exception.



The NWS:
Today A chance of showers and thunderstorms before 11am, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm between 11am and 2pm, then a chance of showers after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 85. Southeast wind 5 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Wunderground:
Thursday
Mostly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain showers, then a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain in the afternoon. High of 88F. Winds from the SE at 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60% with rainfall amounts near 0.4 in. possible.

Nice to see they're in full agreement, which means it probably won't rain at all. Well, we all know the best way to see if it's going to rain - all you have to do is...look up!


Enough with the dog.
Quoting 1006. Neyewall:
According to the lil weather station in my backyard I got 5.04 inches yesterday here in Coral Springs, FL . And more is forecasted today. smh
wow, your station is that accurate? To a hundredths of an inch!? hmm.
What kind of crab? Best to be careful with those critters. They pinch really bad :)
Quoting 1010. mikatnight:


You should be a detective! The jig is up, I grabbed a crab from him and held it up so I could get him to look at the camera. Why do all of the sudden I feel like William Hurt in Broadcast News?
1014. ncstorm
Henry Margusity Fan Club
Pattern goes back to the wet pattern in the East next week.. Good Bye Heat and Hello Rains.
ABNT20 KNHC 181135
TWOAT

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT THU JUL 18 2013

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN

Quoting 1015. hurricanes2018:
ABNT20 KNHC 181135
TWOAT

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT THU JUL 18 2013

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN

IKE already posted this recently.
Is it my eyes or is that really a giant spinning blob from Texas to the East coast?
With the current water level exceeding 15 feet, Lake Okeechobee will pose a disaster for Palm Beach or Okeechobee County residents if a hurricane were to make landfall as the levees would most likely breach.
Quoting 966. CaribBoy:
Not even 1/2inch from the wave. Again, most of the rain for Barbuda, Antigua, St Kitts, Guadeloupe, Dominica.. and even Statia!

I give up, this year is a big bust for me... at least rain-wise.

GFS also shows a stupid fish on its last run.

Well everything is boring.


There was a mixture of rain and sunshine since yesterday here in Antigua. Most of the rain came overnight and now the sun is shining.
Quoting 1017. Kristina40:
Is it my eyes or is that really a giant spinning blog from Texas to the East coast?
"blog?" or do you mean "blob?"
Published: July 18, 2013

Heat Relief in Sight for Some
NEW YORK — The largest heat wave of the summer has stagnated over large regions, bringing sizzling temperatures and little hope of relief without rain, a growing possibility for some hard-hit areas as the weekend approaches.

Most states in the U.S. had at least one region where the temperature hit 90 degrees Wednesday, according to the National Weather Service, though the worst heat was in the Midwest to Northeast. Humid air just made it all feel worse, with heat indexes in some places over 100.

It was hot enough to buckle highway pavement in several states. Firefighters in Indianapolis evacuated 300 people from a senior living community after a power outage knocked out the air conditioning. The state of Illinois opened cooling centers. The Environmental Protection Agency said the heat was contributing to air pollution in New England.

(MORE: Relief in Sight?)

Officials are blaming hot weather for at least one death. A 78-year-old Alzheimer's patient died of heat exhaustion after wandering away from his northern Kentucky home Tuesday in temperatures that rose to 93 degrees.

In New York City, where it was 96 degrees, sidewalk food vendor Ahmad Qayumi said that by 11 a.m., the cramped space inside his steel-walled cart got so hot that he had to turn off his grill and coffee machine.

"It was just too hot. I couldn't breathe," he said, turning away a customer who asked for a hamburger. "Just cold drinks," he said.

Amid the heat, officials in Washington D.C.'s Maryland suburbs worked to keep a failing water main from cutting off hundreds of thousands of people, just when they needed it most. People in Prince George's County were asked not to run their faucets, water their lawns or flush toilets to keep the water system from emptying during emergency repairs.

Firefighters in southern California faced brutally hot — but dangerously dry — conditions as they battled a wildfire outside Palm Springs that had already consumed seven homes.

New Mexico and parts of Texas turned out to be rare outposts of cool air Wednesday — but not without trouble of their own: heavy rains prompted flood watches and warnings in some areas. More than five inches of rain fell in 24 hours in Plainview, north of Lubbock, according to the National Weather Service.

At the World Trade Center reconstruction site in New York City, workers building a rail hub dripped under their hardhats, thick gloves and heavy-duty boots. Some wore towels around their necks to wipe away the sweat.

"We're drinking a lot of water, down under by the tracks, in and out of the sun all day — very hot," said carpenter Elizabeth Fontanez, of the Bronx, who labored with 20 pounds of tools and safety equipment strapped to her waist. Since the heat wave began, she said she has been changing shirts several times during her shifts.

Cooler temperatures are within sight but likely not soon enough and cool enough for a large swath of the country hit with dangerously high temperatures for days as the largest heat wave of the summer failed to budge from South Dakota to Massachusetts.

The relief is expected to begin arriving Thursday in some regions of the country as a cold front drops south from Canada. But it is not soon enough for others. New York City, for instance, is bracing for another day of temperatures in the high 90s.

Cooler temperatures are likely to sweep through the Midwest and into the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast regions by Saturday. They might be accompanied by severe thunderstorms
1022. ncstorm
Quoting 1012. Waltanater:
wow, your station is that accurate? To a hundredths of an inch!? hmm.


I realize you weren't quoting me but in the interests of full disclosure, I have 2 rain gauges, both cheap, neither has 100ths, but I estimate roughly what the measurement is. The best gauge as you probably know is the one used by the NWS for the CoCoRaHS program, which is an acronym for the Community Collaborative Rain, Hail and Snow Network. Here's a picture of one:


Amazon is selling them for $35 w/free shipping. I keep putting off buying one, but I will eventually.
Good morning yes I don't sleep anymore rains off the west coast of FL. expected to move in later today:



You can see the SAL in the Atlantic:



And the GFS takes the Cape-Verde system on a Fred like track right into that SAL and ULL because it strengthens it quick. The thing to note is the pressure pattern is different on the last 2 runs of the GFS then in the previous run:

Link

Notice next to the 1031 mb. high there is a 1024 mb. low that in combination with how quick the system strengthens pulls it north. Most important thing right now is that we are getting consistency with a system forming off the coast of Africa in a week.

Good morning All

Nothing tropical happening so

I will eat my blue crabs, start the smoker for the redfish and.... watch SHARKNADO today............

Quoting LargoFl:
Issued by The National Weather Service
Miami, FL
8:02 am EDT, Thu., Jul. 18, 2013

... MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 AM EDT...

FOR THE FOLLOWING AREAS... WATERS FROM DEERFIELD BEACH TO OCEAN REEF FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM EXCLUDING THE TERRITORIAL WATERS OF BAHAMAS COASTAL WATERS FROM DEERFIELD BEACH TO OCEAN REEF FL OUT 20 NM COASTAL WATERS FROM JUPITER INLET TO DEERFIELD BEACH FL OUT 20 NM BISCAYNE BAY WATERS FROM JUPITER INLET TO DEERFIELD BEACH FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM

AT 759 AM EDT... NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED CONDITIONS FAVORABLE FOR WATERSPOUTS IN A LINE OF SHOWERS ACROSS BISCAYNE BAY AND THE NEAR SHORE ATLANTIC WATERS TO THE EAST OF MIAMI DADE AND BROWARD COUNTIES.

WATERSPOUTS ARE POSSIBLE WITH THIS ACTIVITY. REMAIN ON THE ALERT IN CASE WARNINGS ARE ISSUED FOR WATERSPOUT DEVELOPMENT.


BISCAYNE BAY streamcam.
Quoting 1023. mikatnight:


I realize you weren't quoting me but in the interests of full disclosure, I have 2 rain gauges, both cheap, neither has 100ths, but I estimate roughly what the measurement is. The best gauge as you probably know is the one used by the NWS for the CoCoRaHS program, which is an acronym for the Community Collaborative Rain, Hail and Snow Network. Here's a picture of one:


Amazon is selling them for $35 w/free shipping. I keep putting off buying one, but I will eventually.
Thanks.
Quoting 1013. lobdelse81:
What kind of crab? Best to be careful with those critters. They pinch really bad :)


You got that right! So far, he's encountered relatively small ones. I've tried to show him how powerful (Danger!), but I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
1029. Mclem1
Quoting 1012. Waltanater:
wow, your station is that accurate? To a hundredths of an inch!? hmm.
Quoting 1011. Waltanater:
Enough with the dog.

Sheesh, I guess somebody put on their grumpy pants today!

Anyway, I wonder what the folks out west think of this "heat" wave theyre having in the Northeast!
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIAMI HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR... NORTHEASTERN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA... THIS INCLUDES MIAMI BEACH

* UNTIL 1230 PM EDT

* AT 920 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED VERY HEAVY RAIN MOVING INTO THE SOUTH BEACH AREA OF MIAMI BEACH. STREETS ARE ALREADY FLOODED FROM PREVIOUS RAINS AND THESE CONDITIONS WILL LIKELY WORSEN OVER THE NEXT HOUR AS THE HEAVY RAINS MOVE THROUGH THE AREA.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS SAFELY.

A FLASH FLOOD WARNING MEANS THAT FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR OCCURRING. IF YOU ARE IN THE WARNING AREA MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CROSS SWIFTLY FLOWING WATERS OR WATERS OF UNKNOWN DEPTH BY FOOT OR BY AUTOMOBILE.
"Blob" not "blog". Not enough coffee.
How do you change your avatar?
Quoting 1031. Kristina40:
"Blob" not "blog". Not enough coffee.
Yeah those storms are being pushed westward from a ridge that is circling clockwise around the US. Apparently that is normal for this time of the summer. Have to watch that Bermuda High as well as that will generally keep those hurricanes/storms westward bound as well.
Quoting 1029. Mclem1:

Sheesh, I guess somebody put on their grumpy pants today!

Anyway, I wonder what the folks out west think of this "heat" wave theyre having in the Northeast!


Strictly a cat person, I assume.
Quoting 1029. Mclem1:

Sheesh, I guess somebody put on their grumpy pants today!

Anyway, I wonder what the folks out west think of this "heat" wave theyre having in the Northeast!



I think there's two things to consider. First is the humidity. Second, lots of folks in the NE don't have AC. I lived there for over 30 years, and never had AC at home, in a vehicle, at school, and in some workplaces. So while sheer temps can't compare to what the West experiences every year, the NE doesn't have to ability to really bear it well. Of course now that I live in the Deep South, I can't imagine life w/o AC :)
Quoting 1029. Mclem1:

Sheesh, I guess somebody put on their grumpy pants today!

Anyway, I wonder what the folks out west think of this "heat" wave theyre having in the Northeast!


I would call it a heat spell in my area until it gets at least 15F above the average high, so 100F , for more than a day.

These folks in the NE must have really short memories.
My wife has kin in upstate NY (Gloversville...Mayfield), people are headed to the lake (Great Sacandaga) and swimming pools in droves. Heat index was well over 100F yesterday.
Good Morning. I totally miss-read the area around Florida/Bahamas yesterday afternoon thinking it was organizing near the Bahamas.........

Just a run of the mill persistent trof/wave that has now moved into the Eastern Gulf.............My Bad.
Quoting 1037. mikatnight:
My wife has kin in upstate NY (Gloversville...Mayfield), people are headed to the lake (Great Sacandaga) and swimming pools in droves. Heat index was well over 100F yesterday.

Terribly sorry for those soft souls that can't take that low a heat index, its 98 (HI) here at 0845. They should try 120's in Iraqistan, humping 100lbs of gear.
May God bless our troops fighting for our rights.
Quoting 1032. Autistic2:
How do you change your avatar?


anyhelp?
Quoting 1002. LargoFl:
oh boy more strong storms today for us................


An upper trof in the northern gulf advecting such a rich stream of moisture into S Fla looked unusual to me. How unusual?


This is the anomaly versus climatology of precipitable water today. 3 standard deviations happens around once every few months. So pretty unusual.
Guess I can post the photos from my FB page here, only LINK them. So here are three more that I snapped this morning from Miami FL.

Link

Let me know if that does not work.
Quoting 1018. rmbjoe1954:
With the current water level exceeding 15 feet, Lake Okeechobee will pose a disaster for Palm Beach or Okeechobee County residents if a hurricane were to make landfall as the levees would most likely breach.
i live in the area. i believe i heard them say there are planned releases... maybe already ongoing. i saw a report about folks on the east coast worried about the phosphorus rich lake okeechobee water and the potential effects in the estuaries.
Quoting 1031. Kristina40:
"Blob" not "blog". Not enough coffee.

It's okay Kristina. I did that twice a few weeks back, and that was even after Juan Valdez rode in on his horse to hand deliver me 3 cups of Columbian coffee. Of course I was on my second martini (you know the purply-pink ones with the unbrellas YUM) so that might explain it. Hmmm. Too early for that now so I will wait patiently for Ains to ring the breakfast bell.

Nat
Quoting 1039. StormPro:

Terribly sorry for those soft souls that can't take that low a heat index, its 98 (HI) here at 0845. They should try 120's in Iraqistan, humping 100lbs of gear.
May God bless our troops fighting for our rights.


A matter of relativity.
Quoting 1038. weathermanwannabe:
Good Morning. I totally miss-read the area around Florida/Bahamas yesterday afternoon thinking it was organizing near the Bahamas.........

Just a run of the mill persistent trof/wave that has now moved into the Eastern Gulf.............My Bad.
All good, I thought your analysis was great. So do you see this trough axis continuing to move west? And curious as to what you think about the pattern upstream in regards to the Cape-Verde development?
Quoting 1040. Autistic2:


anyhelp?


Click your Avatar, at the Photo page, upload a new Avatar. Once the photo is approved, you can select it.
do keep in mind many folks who are elderly are no longer able to regulate their body temperatures to be able to handle the heat. Too many of the very young and very old are in situations where they may not have access to fans or air conditioning and may not remain hydrated. Pets too are affected by unusual heat and require more water. Definitely thinking of the troops who endure so much.
Quoting 1039. StormPro:

Terribly sorry for those soft souls that can't take that low a heat index, its 98 (HI) here at 0845. They should try 120's in Iraqistan, humping 100lbs of gear.
May God bless our troops fighting for our rights.

Quoting 1043. TopOfTheLakeFL:
i live in the area. i believe i heard them say there are planned releases... maybe already ongoing. i saw a report about folks on the east coast worried about the phosphorus rich lake okeechobee water and the potential effects in the estuaries.
http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/Media/NewsReleases/t abid/6071/Article/15069/corps-to-increase-water-re leases-from-lake-okeechobee.aspx
Quoting 1042. MiamiNative:
Guess I can post the photos from my FB page here, only LINK them. So here are three more that I snapped this morning from Miami FL.

Link

Let me know if that does not work.


Works fine, nice shots!
Quoting 1047. MiamiNative:


Click your Avatar, at the Photo page, upload a new Avatar. Once the photo is approved, you can select it.


Thank you mine is 5 years old
Quoting 1048. fireflymom:
do keep in mind many folks who are elderly are no longer able to regulate their body temperatures to be able to handle the heat. Too many of the very young and very old are in situations where they may not have access to fans or air conditioning and may not remain hydrated. Pets too are affected by unusual heat and require more water. Definitely thinking of the troops who endure so much.



I do keep that in mind, having grown up in it and spending my time in various deserts I just get sick and tired of hearing people whine about a heat wave. My grandmothers house NEVER had A/C, in southeast Mississippi, Magnolia to be exact. And she lived to 98 and had at least an acre garden until she was 95. People have just gotten soft. It's not the first "Heat wave" and won't be the last with the climate changing. Start getting A/C or let Darwin take over. ( Now I will get my ban for the weekend but I'm going offline anyway)
There's still a lot of wind of 30-40 kts throughout much of the Caribbean in in the Atlantic. Need it to greatly relax if anything were to develop in the MDR and try to make it through.
the gfs model is a joke. the storm forms so far north. the euro shows a strong wave south of the islands
1055. RevInFL
Quoting 1042. MiamiNative:
Guess I can post the photos from my FB page here, only LINK them. So here are three more that I snapped this morning from Miami FL.

Link

Let me know if that does not work.


Nice pictures!
1056. pcola57
Quoting 1003. mikatnight:
Goood Morning!

6:33 am (10:33 GMT)

The sun makes a futile effort at breaking through the clouds in Lantana, Florida. Another early morning rain shower contributed the bulk of yesterday's rainfall, logged in as 0.32". It's amazing this one little sliver of land has escaped the torrential rains that all the areas around it have endured. Too bad, since we're one of the few places that can handle big-time rain events - we never flood*, it all just flows into the Intracoastal.

* Storm surge would be an obvious exception.



The NWS:
Today A chance of showers and thunderstorms before 11am, then showers likely and possibly a thunderstorm between 11am and 2pm, then a chance of showers after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 85. Southeast wind 5 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Wunderground:
Thursday
Mostly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain showers, then a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain in the afternoon. High of 88F. Winds from the SE at 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60% with rainfall amounts near 0.4 in. possible.

Nice to see they're in full agreement, which means it probably won't rain at all. Well, we all know the best way to see if it's going to rain - all you have to do is...look up!




Good Morning Mik..
Good pics as usual.. :)
I forwarded the link on pet tag ID's to my vet yesterday..
Office Manager said she would take a look at it and see if it something they can implement..
Thanks for that.. :)
1057. zampaz
Quoting 1009. SouthernIllinois:
New Drought Monitor


Thank you for sharing the drought monitor with us
Nat (below). Hope your trees are happy.
Much of the drought area is agricultural and depends on the Ogallala Aquifer.
The aquifer is being depleted and is a finite resource.
The drought area covers a significant portion of the US
"bread basket."


(Image source: wikipedia)
Good morning.Since the storm forms if my calculations are correct in 7 days I may start to pay a little bit of attention..but I'm still slightly skeptical.After all GFS did drop the cape verde storm that was suppose to be out there this week two days before it formed..so we'll see..
Quoting 1046. GTstormChaserCaleb:
All good, I thought your analysis was great. So do you see this trough axis continuing to move west? And curious as to what you think about the pattern upstream in regards to the Cape-Verde development?


I was looking at the some of the bouy readings around the Bahamas but the whole mess moved quickly to the West overnight.

As to the Cape Verde season, the ITCZ is starting to "fill in" and we will certainly have a few "clusters" of several waves that turn into storms over a 5-6 week period; start date unknown.

The single biggest issue for CV storms is not how many but the trajectory based on the A-B high position for any given storm or clusters of storms. Right now, the general trajectory set-up is towards the Caribbean. I suspect we will have a few major CV storms this year impacting the Caribbean and parts beyond. In an Enso neutral year, any hurricane forming after 50W has a higher probability of a Caribbean/US trajectory so we will have to see what happens. Sooner forming ones (further East) have a better chance of re-curvature, if, an weakness in the Bermuda High cooperates but not looking that way at the moment.

Also need to keep an eye on SAL locations for any given strong wave; while it can retard development in the Central Atlantic (preventing a possible fish storm), a viable wave can form into a storm nearing the Lesser Antilles once the SAL retreats........

I would also not rule out a few tracks into Central America/Yucatan if some of the strong ridging over the Gulf is around for some of these storms as well.

That's all I have for now..........The rest is in Mother Nature's Hand............
Quoting 1051. Autistic2:


Thank you mine is 5 years old


I've been here for years, show up every Season and lurk, getting weather info and predictions for my office's. Forgot my password this year and had changed my email address, so I had to create a new account. My Avatar last year was Marvin the Martin.
After all GFS did drop the cape verde storm that was suppose to be out there this week two days before it formed..so we'll see.. maybe much dry air for any verde storm right now.
Quoting 1059. weathermanwannabe:


I was looking at the some of the bouy readings around the Bahamas but the whole mess moved quickly to the West overnight.

As to the Cape Verde season, the ITCZ is starting to "fill in" and we will certainly have a few "clusters" of several waves that turn into storms over a 5-6 week period; start date unknown.

The single biggest issue for CV storms is not how many but the trajectory based on the A-B high position for any given storm or clusters of storms. Right now, the general trajectory set-up is towards the Caribbean. I suspect we will have a few major CV storms this year impacting the Caribbean and parts beyond. In an Enso neutral year, any hurricane forming after 50W has a higher probability of a Caribbean/US trajectory so we will have to see what happens. Sooner forming ones (further East) have a better chance of re-curvature, if, an weakness in the Bermuda High cooperates but not looking that way at the moment.

Also need to keep an eye on SAL locations for any given strong wave; while it can retard development in the Central Atlantic (preventing a possible fish storm), a viable wave can form into a storm nearing the Lesser Antilles once the SAL retreats........

I would also not rule out a few tracks into Central America/Yucatan if some of the strong ridging over the Gulf is around for some of these storms as well.

That's all I have for now..........The rest is in Mother Nature's Hand............


Good analysis there. In other words is about timing,timing,timing.
Quoting 1018. rmbjoe1954:
With the current water level exceeding 15 feet, Lake Okeechobee will pose a disaster for Palm Beach or Okeechobee County residents if a hurricane were to make landfall as the levees would most likely breach.


I posted this yesterday, in case you missed it:

I can't seem to find a date on this PDF, but the summary sure is interesting:

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
1 Hurricane Katrina caused wide-scale damage to the Louisiana coast and New Orleans in particular,(Lloyd’s share was USD 3.4bn). However, there are other less well-known areas that are also extremely vulnerable to hurricanes. Lake Okeechobee in Florida is ranked second by the International Hurricane Research Center in a list of the most vulnerable US mainland areas to hurricanes.

2 A report was commissioned by the South Florida Water Management District in 2006 to review the stability and safety of the Herbert Hoover Dike around Lake Okeechobee. Report concludes “The current condition of Herbert Hoover poses a grave and imminent danger… … [The dyke] needs to be fixed. We can only add that it needs to be fixed now, and it needs to be fixed right. We firmly believe that the region’s future depends on it.”

3 A separate report also concludes that the dyke is vulnerable to failure caused by water seepage and piping at high water levels, whether this high water level is produced by long-term changes in rainfall or by hurricane events. The findings from the research led to the re-evaluation of the design of the dyke improvements which the US Army Corps of Engineers had
begun to implement.

4 Work on the first three sections is expected to last for five years and until this repair work is completed, the risk levels associated with the Herbert Hoover Dike are elevated. Insurers should be aware of research papers, such as those reviewed in this report and scientific advances, particularly with regard to climate change to factor forecasts when pricing catastrophe exposed risks in Southern Florida. Catastrophe models, in general, do not model levee failure. Insurers must be aware of all possible sources of potential loss when pricing risks and evaluating capital requirements.

5 As well as the total of 40,000 residents whose houses and lives would obviously be in serious danger, there could be far-reaching effects for the whole of southern Florida should the Herbert Hoover Dike fail. The three counties to the immediate south-east of Lake Okeechobee have a combined population in excess of 5 million residents. Recovery could take years, with economic losses likely to run to the tens of billions of dollars. This would be in addition to any related wind losses which are also likely to be measured in billions.

!!!!!!
What am I doing wrong? I want to change my avatar. I click on my avatar go to the photos page, I have three approved photos but no matter where I look can I find the word avatar
1066. zampaz
Quoting 1043. TopOfTheLakeFL:
i live in the area. i believe i heard them say there are planned releases... maybe already ongoing. i saw a report about folks on the east coast worried about the phosphorus rich lake okeechobee water and the potential effects in the estuaries.

I was hoping to ask Indianrivguy if the influx of rain water would potentially dilute pollutants or only serve to spread the mess and perhaps make things worse.
Perhaps you know?
1067. Patrap
#1065

Look for "Primary Portrait" I believe
1068. Grothar
The troughiness over Florida is moving into the Gulf as expected. However, rain is lingering over the Bahamas and the Florida peninsula. Another batch of moisture from the wave is most likely going to move into the same area. Read this fast because Doc Masters will most likely be coming along and wiping out all our good entries.


Quoting 1056. pcola57:


Good Morning Mik..
Good pics as usual.. :)
I forwarded the link on pet tag ID's to my vet yesterday..
Office Manager said she would take a look at it and see if it something they can implement..
Thanks for that.. :)


Your welcome! I think the tag costs $15, and basic service is free. We've tested it with our phones, and it does work.
Quoting 1061. hurricanes2018:
After all GFS did drop the cape verde storm that was suppose to be out there this week two days before it formed..so we'll see.. maybe much dry air for any verde storm right now.
Dry air wasn't that bad last week actually and shear was low in the eastern Atlantic.Except for the caribbean.
Quoting 1062. Tropicsweatherpr:


Good analysis there. In other words is about timing,timing,timing.


Always; as Dr. Masters has noted on here over the years, you cannot accurately predict sheer or the exact position of the A-B high margins more that 4-5 days out.

And, the biggest single issue for Cape Verde storms every year headed towards the US has always been the "timing" of an approaching trof for any given storm. Katrina's NHC track kept moving West over the course of a few days and everyone was in the "cone" from Bermuda, moving westward, until the approaching trof finally pulled her into the Central Gulf...........

My rule of thumb is the 3 day NHC track; anything outside of that is too difficult to determine out side of the "general" location the storm is headed towards.
Quoting 1058. washingtonian115:
Good morning.Since the storm forms if my calculations are correct in 7 days I may start to pay a little bit of attention..but I'm still slightly skeptical.After all GFS did drop the cape verde storm that was suppose to be out there this week two days before it formed..so we'll see..


I'm with you on that! Until the 180 hour models start showing something, I regard them with a bemused eye.
Quoting 1067. Patrap:
#1065

Look for "Primary Portrait" I believe


Thank you,
1074. Grothar
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90
Hey Stormpro. It's the POOR AIR QUALITY that makes it so oppressive in the Northeast. It is very hard to breathe when the air is so polluted. You can see the dirt and soot in the air. Black soot washed out of my hair everyday when I shampooed (in Camden, NJ) For me, it was more comfortable in the Mojave Desert(at 120 degrees) than it was in Philly at 85 degrees. That's why I now live in Florida. It's hot but the air not oppressive and or dirty
After that big L that was over Texas moved out, forecasters act like it will be much nicer for a bit, but now I see another westward-moving blob crossing the Mississippi River enroute to Texas, also. Not so sure it will wait before we get a bit more rain. It will be making an interesting pattern of westward-moving rain systems that remind me of the days of my youth, when an East wind in central Texas often meant rain was coming.

With this pattern so far north rather than the opposite, and weather seeming geared for tropical systems in the GOM this year, I'd say that looks wet. Maybe Texas will recgarge some aquifers & catch up on some rain.
Quoting 1069. mikatnight:


Your welcome! I think the tag costs $15, and basic service is free. We've tested it with our phones, and it does work.

Can you please post that link again?
Thanks
Quoting 1072. mikatnight:


I'm with you on that! Until the 180 hour models start showing something, I regard them with a bemused eye.
I will also monitor my local weather patterns as that to usually has a effect on where storms go.The mets are talking about cool and rainy next week.So who knows?.Trough to the rescue?.We still have days to figure out.
Quoting 1065. Autistic2:
What am I doing wrong? I want to change my avatar. I click on my avatar go to the photos page, I have three approved photos but no matter where I look can I find the word avatar


Somehow I have 4 of the same photo, don't see a way to delete the duplicates. But yes, need to click the radio button for Primary Portrait.
Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 10:00 AM EDT Thursday 18 July 2013
Condition: na
Pressure:30.1 inches
Tendency:rising
Visibility:15 miles
Temperature:87.1°F
Dewpoint:67.1°F
Humidity:51%
Wind:NW 3 mph
Humidex: 100
Good morning, weathergeeks! ;)

All is still quiet. Don't despair, trouble still comes.

Good commentary this morning, weathermanwannbe.

Have a good day, all:)

1082. Grothar
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90


OK, you're just teasing us now...besides, I thought "The Shop" wouldn't let you.
1084. zampaz
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90

C) - assuming it's for mature audiences only ;)
extremely dry air out off the coast of africa is expected to remain dry for the next 4 to 6 weeks and moderate to high wind throughout the atlantic and carribean, should keep any tropical development at bay..... but spetemeber is up for grab.
Quoting 1077. gulfshoresAL:

Can you please post that link again?
Thanks


PetHub.com
Will it? Will it? Willlllll it!

1088. txjac
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90


I would love to! I already have a mental picture so I would like to see how close I am
Quoting 1085. thunderstromsmike:
extremely dry air out off the coast of africa is expected to remain dry for the next 4 to 6 weeks and moderate to high wind throughout the atlantic and carribean, should keep any tropical development at bay..... but spetemeber is up for grab.


I don't see it waiting that long. Two storms have formed in the deep tropics so far this year, it's gotta start getting busy soon. We'll see.
1090. Mclem1
Sigh...I just spent the better part of 20 minutes figuring out how to change my avatar so I could answer that question only to come back and find it answered several times over... Really I should have known better haha
1091. pcola57
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90


I'll go with 50%.. :)

Good Morning Gro..
Was yesterday like a Tropical storm for you or what?
What was your 24hr rain total?
Quoting 1088. txjac:


I would love to! I already have a mental picture so I would like to see how close I am


I have a mental picture too!

But, I'm much better now!

Hey, it's raining!
Quoting 1089. mikatnight:


I don't see it waiting that long. Two storms have formed in the deep tropics so far this year, it's gotta start getting busy soon. We'll see.
i heard that on the weather chanal earlier
I'm the avatar changing expert..But I was to lazy to explain.ha ha.
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90


Aren't pictures of Yoda copyright?
1096. Mclem1
Quoting 1094. washingtonian115:
I'm the avatar changing expert..But I was to lazy to explain.ha ha.

Judging by the fact that my avatar never actually changed, I'm not sure I actually figured it out...oh well. Ill just get back to my coffee and daydream about GFS predictions that never were and never will be...
50% Alexander  Kind of like or chance of getting more rain in Houston this month.
1098. zampaz
Quoting 1094. washingtonian115:
I'm the avatar changing expert..But I was to lazy to explain.ha ha.

Aye, that ye are matey...
Argh, image piracy, it's a crime fit fer a pirate, argh.
We already have a heat index of 99 degrees here in D.C.Youch!.

Mclem1 did you press primary photo?.And make sure you put in your location or they will not except it.
Quoting 1093. thunderstromsmike:
i heard that on the weather chanal earlier


Dr. Masters blog
(Monday, July 8)

Chantal: a likely harbinger of an active Atlantic hurricane season
Chantal's formation on July 8 is an usually early date for formation of the season's third storm, which usually occurs on August 13. A large number of early-season named storms is not necessarily a harbinger of an active season, unless one or more of these storms form in the deep tropics, south of 23.5°N. According to Phil Klotzbach and Bill Gray, leaders of Colorado State's seasonal hurricane forecasting team,

"Most years do not have named storm formations in June and July in the tropical Atlantic (south of 23.5°N); however, if tropical formations do occur, it indicates that a very active hurricane season is likely. For example, the seven years with the most named storm days in the deep tropics in June and July (since 1949) are 1966, 1969, 1995, 1996, 1998, 2005, and 2008. All seven of these seasons were very active. When storms form in the deep tropics in the early part of the hurricane season, it indicates that conditions are already very favorable for TC development. In general, the start of the hurricane season is restricted by thermodynamics (warm SSTs, unstable lapse rates), and therefore deep tropical activity early in the hurricane season implies that the thermodynamics are already quite favorable for tropical cyclone (TC) development."

Two of this season's three storms have formed in the deep tropics--Tropical Storm Barry, which formed in the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche at a latitude of 19.6°N, and now Tropical Storm Chantal, which formed at a latitude of 9.8°N. With recent runs of the GFS model predicting formation of yet another tropical storm southwest of the Cape Verde Islands early next week, it appears that the Atlantic is primed for an active hurricane season in 2013.
1101. zampaz
Quoting 1099. washingtonian115:
We already have a heat index of 99 degrees here in D.C.Youch!.

Winchester, VA
Temperature
90.3 °F
Feels Like 102 °F
1102. Dakster
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90


As long as you are CLOTHED...

Quoting 1101. zampaz:

Winchester, VA
Temperature
90.3 °F
Feels Like 102 °F
Saturday is only two days away..and that is when the front should be coming through.But perhaps some strong to sever storms will come with it.Especially with all this energy around.
For all you folks high and dry, er, dry anyway - I made a 60 second video of our brief (already stopped) downpour. Grothar, don't watch this, I think you're full up.

1105. Dakster
Quoting 1101. zampaz:

Winchester, VA
Temperature
90.3 °F
Feels Like 102 °F


Someone please tell mother nature she left the oven on. And apparently she was broiling something earlier.
Nearby Airports

Chester | 90 °F | Clear
New Haven | 93 °F | Partly Cloudy
Meriden | 89 °F | Clear

Wrong location?


Nearby Weather Stations

Orcutt | 84.7 °F
Bishops Orchards-Meadow Ridge | 92.8 °F
Chatfield Hollow Area | 90.1 °F
date 7/18/2013 time 11am
I highly doubt , the 4-6 week period , just because the ITCZ is moving north into that , qoute favorable zone , and when that happens , then watch out , the 2013 hurricane season will rapidly start , just tell me in November , at the end of season how lame , it really was , remember all it takes is just one massive , and destructive , and killer storm , to make the season a bad one , just look at 1992 , all I can say is ANDREW !
1108. Grothar
Quoting 1104. mikatnight:
For all you folks high and dry, er, dry anyway - I made a 60 second video of our brief (already stopped) downpour. Grothar, don't watch this, I think you're full up.




Wow, you still have the old coconut palms. Lucky. I am getting a new camera that I can upload on the PC. I tried it with my Brownie, but it doesn't work.


Here is us now. Look out Mik, more on the way

My guess is the new blog by Dr. Masters should be out momentarily and more than likely will be on the heat wave right now prompting numerous heat advisories across the Upper Midwest included a large swath of Eastern Michigan (include Metro Detroit) under Excessive Heat Warnings.

Just a hunch...


Natalie
1110. zampaz
Quoting 1103. washingtonian115:
Saturday is only two days away..and that is when the front should be coming through.But perhaps some strong to sever storms will come with it.Especially with all this energy around.

I love a good storm...(almost but not quite violent enough to do damage). A hard wind and pounding rain really refreshes the environment. I guess we'll be in for storms, weather from the west seems to go around the northern tip of the Shenandoah valley.
This east to west thing confuses me. The weather is going the wrong way! Silly jet stream.
A blog about the tropics....well you could just forget about that!
1112. zampaz
Quoting 1109. SouthernIllinois:
My guess is the new blog by Dr. Masters should be out momentarily and more than likely will be on the heat wave right now prompting numerous heat advisories across the Upper Midwest included a large swath of Eastern Michigan (include Metro Detroit) under Excessive Heat Warnings.

Just a hunch...


Natalie

Hey there Nat the rainbow girl, where'd you find the color style guide?
1113. Grothar
Quoting 1091. pcola57:


I'll go with 50%.. :)

Good Morning Gro..
Was yesterday like a Tropical storm for you or what?
What was your 24hr rain total?


Cooper City had the highest I believe near 15 inches, but I think we only got about 9 inches of rain. Yes, it was like tropical storm or deep depression.
Quoting 1112. zampaz:

Hey there Nat the rainbow girl, where'd you find the color style guide?

Sup zampaz! Did some minor research and figured it out. Not very hard. I just use templates I just copy and paste before and after each section I plan to color. :)

Lemme know and I'll wu email ya later today...
1115. LargoFl
be careful down here today..stay safe.........................ssued by The National Weather Service
Miami, FL
10:47 am EDT, Thu., Jul. 18, 2013

... A FLASH FLOOD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1230 PM EDT FOR EXTREME NORTHEASTERN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY FOR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF MIAMI BEACH...

AT 1040 AM EDT... RAIN HAS TEMPORARILY ABATED OVER MIAMI BEACH. HOWEVER, NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS ARE DETECTING ANOTHER CLUSTER OF TORRENTIAL RAINFALL NEAR KEY BISCAYNE WHICH MAY MOVE INTO THE SOUTH BEACH AREA AROUND 11 AM. THEREFORE, THE FLOOD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1230 PM.

MANY REPORTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED OF FLOODING IN MIAMI BEACH, COVERING STREETS AND ENCROACHING ON BUILDINGS. THESE CONDITIONS WILL ONLY WORSEN WITH ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAINFALL.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CAUSE FLOODING OF STREETS AND UNDERPASSES AS WELL AS OTHER DRAINAGE AREAS AND LOW LYING SPOTS.

NEVER DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. FLOOD WATERS ARE USUALLY DEEPER THAN THEY APPEAR. JUST ONE FOOT OF FLOWING WATER IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO SWEEP VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED ROADS MAKE THE SMART CHOICE... TURN AROUND... DONT DROWN.

&&
1116. LargoFl
Issued by The National Weather Service
Miami, FL
10:26 am EDT, Thu., Jul. 18, 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIAMI HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN FLOOD ADVISORY FOR... NORTHEASTERN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA... THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF... SOUTH MIAMI... MIAMI... HIALEAH... CORAL GABLES...

* UNTIL 1230 PM EDT

* AT 1024 AM EDT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS CONTINUED TO DETECT HEAVY RAIN MOVING NORTH ACROSS THE NORTHERN SECTIONS OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. THIS INCLUDES AREAS EAST OF THE TURNPIKE FROM WESTCHESTER AND CORAL GABLES NORTH TO HIALEAH AND NORTH MIAMI.

ADDITIONAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS OVER THE NEXT TWO HOURS, LEADING TO STREET FLOODING.

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS SAFELY.

A FLOOD ADVISORY MEANS PONDING OF WATER IN URBAN OR OTHER AREAS IS OCCURRING OR IS IMMINENT. RUNOFF MAY ALSO ELEVATE WATER LEVELS IN CANALS AND DITCHES.
Quoting 1108. Grothar:



Wow, you still have the old coconut palms. Lucky. I am getting a new camera that I can upload on the PC. I tried it with my Brownie, but it doesn't work.


Here is us now. Look out Mik, more on the way



Coconuts last year were not good. Blasted whitefly sucks the fun out of growing stuff. I'm strickly wait-and-see on the rain. Radar's been pulling the Charlie Brown and the Football deal on me all month.

Quoting 1109. SouthernIllinois:
My guess is the new blog by Dr. Masters should be out momentarily and more than likely will be on the heat wave right now prompting numerous heat advisories across the Upper Midwest included a large swath of Eastern Michigan (include Metro Detroit) under Excessive Heat Warnings.

Just a hunch...


Natalie


I've also been predicting a huge article on Climate Change by him for days and he slyly keeps putting it off just to make me look bad. 'sok, I can take it.
BTW - he'll make a new post as soon as Grothar or I say something fantastically interesting...
1118. LargoFl
Quoting 1066. zampaz:

I was hoping to ask Indianrivguy if the influx of rain water would potentially dilute pollutants or only serve to spread the mess and perhaps make things worse.
Perhaps you know?
IRG is the expert, but I think the answer is that it just makes things worse. The water collecting in Lake O is not just rain water, but all the runoff from the development to the north, all th way up to Orlando. Not to mention the agricultural runoff. The water is full of nasty stuff.

The Hoover Dyke was built after a hurricane (in the 20s, I think) caused the lake to flood and destroy homes and farmland that had been located directly in the historical and natural path of the overflow. The Dyke was should never have been built.

Edited to add: Michael Grunwald's book "The Swamp" is a good but nauseating description of the politics and mistakes in dealing with the Everglades and development in South Florida.
Quoting 1117. mikatnight:


Coconuts last year were not good. Blasted whitefly sucks the fun out of growing stuff. I'm strickly wait-and-see on the rain. Radar's been pulling the Charlie Brown and the Football deal on me all month.



I've also been predicting a huge article on Climate Change by him for days and he slyly keeps putting it off just to make me look bad. 'sok, I can take it.
BTW - he'll make a new post as soon as Grothar or I say something fantastically interesting...

haha. It's coming. Don't worry the CC blog is a coming. That's when I usually duck to dodge the flying objects and retreat to a safe spot under a strong oak tree. :)
1121. zampaz
Quoting 1114. SouthernIllinois:

Sup zampaz! Did some minor research and figured it out. Not very hard. I just use templates I just copy and paste before and after each section I plan to color. :)

Lemme know and I'll wu email ya later today...

Will do! Pretty familiar with html, be nice if there was a css style guide for the site...guess I could view the source, but lazy...

Toronto Pearson Int'l Airpor
tDate: 11:00 AM EDT Thursday 18 July 2013
Condition:Mainly Sunny
Pressure:30.1 inches
Tendency:falling
Visibility:15 miles
Temperature:87.8%uFFFFF
Dewpoint:70.5%uFFFFF
Humidity:56%
Wind:NW 5 mph
Humidex: 104
The way I see it if I can't help ya then Keeper can. Someone usually knows. haha
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90
I don't. Most avatars of people are annoying to look at.
1125. wxmod
North Pole webcam today.

Nothing tropical, check in Friday
Grumpypantsgrumpypants.
1128. LargoFl
Although your vehicle is capable of driving through shallow standing water, consider the following Caution and Warning before doing so.

CAUTION!
• Always check the depth of the standing water before driving through it. Never drive through standing water that is deeper than the bottom of the tire rims mounted on the vehicle.
• Determine the condition of the road or the path that is under water and if there are any obstacles in the way before driving through the standing water.
• Do not exceed 5 mph (8 km/h) when driving through standing water. This will minimize wave effects.
• Driving through standing water may cause damage to your vehicle’s drivetrain components. Always inspect your vehicle’s fluids (i.e., engine oil, transmission, axle, etc.) for signs of contamination (i.e., fluid that is milky or foamy in appearance) after driving through standing water. Do not continue to operate the vehicle if any fluid appears contaminated, as this may result in further damage.
Such damage is not covered by the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
• Getting water inside your vehicle’s engine can cause it to lock up and stall out, and cause serious internal damage to the engine. Such damage is not covered by the New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

WARNING!
• Driving through standing water limits your vehicle’s traction capabilities. Do not exceed 5 mph (8 km/h) when driving through standing water.

• Driving through standing water limits your vehicle’s braking capabilities, which increases stopping distances. Therefore, after driving through standing water, drive slowly and lightly press on the brake pedal several times to dry the brakes.

• Getting water inside your vehicle’s engine can cause it to lock up and stall out, and leave you stranded.

• Failure to follow these warnings may result in injuries that are serious or fatal to you, your passengers, and others around you.
Quoting 1029. Mclem1:

Sheesh, I guess somebody put on their grumpy pants today!

Anyway, I wonder what the folks out west think of this "heat" wave theyre having in the Northeast!


We are all about sharing with others.
1130. zampaz
Quoting 1119. FLwolverine:
IRG is the expert, but I think the answer is that it just makes things worse. The water collecting in Lake O is not just rain water, but all the runoff from the development to the north, all th way up to Orlando. Not to mention the agricultural runoff. The water is full of nasty stuff.

The Hoover Dyke was built after a hurricane (in the 20s, I think) caused the lake to flood and destroy homes and farmland that had been located directly in the historical and natural path of the overflow. The Dyke was should never have been built.

What IRG shares of the greed of corporations and the impact on the environment in Florida saddens my heart.

Barbamz posted this link which discusses how (in this case) people chose to live near water by necessity, but now we have to rethink where we are living in the context of a changing climate.

1131. LargoFl
oh LOOK at that Huge storm circling in to Tampa..there's OUR storm folks..
1132. Dakster
Quoting 1113. Grothar:


Cooper City had the highest I believe near 15 inches, but I think we only got about 9 inches of rain. Yes, it was like tropical storm or deep depression.


Rained a little down here too. It was more like boating than driving this morning.

I got pulled over by a Florida Fish and Wildlife Officer on my way in to work this morning. I didn't have an FL number on the side of my truck.
1133. dabirds
Quoting 1122. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

Toronto Pearson Int'l Airpor
tDate: 11:00 AM EDT Thursday 18 July 2013
Condition:Mainly Sunny
Pressure:30.1 inches
Tendency:falling
Visibility:15 miles
Temperature:87.8°F
Dewpoint:70.5°F
Humidity:56%
Wind:NW 5 mph
Humidex: 104
Do they alter the heat index as you get further north? I have 90 w/ 73 dew pt and only a 99 HI.
1134. Dakster
Quoting 1129. PedleyCA:


We are all about sharing with others.


No thanks. keep the heat please.
1135. LargoFl
Everybody's so witty this morning!
1137. zampaz
Quoting 1125. wxmod:
North Pole webcam today.


The Arctic is melting, the jet stream is changing.
There is a scientific consensus as to why this is happening.
Reality doesn't care about ideology or politics.
I think KEEPER's just showing off now. You wait, pretty soon all the Mods will be doing it. (lol)
1140. Dakster
Quoting 1125. wxmod:
North Pole webcam today.



Nice and slushy looking at the North Pole today.
Quoting 1135. LargoFl:
Now isn't this just re-assuring.
Quoting 1138. SFLWeatherman:


Got nearly 2/10" out of that little blast. Sun's out now though...wait, nope gone again.
Quoting 1133. dabirds:
Do they alter the heat index as you get further north? I have 90 w/ 73 dew pt and only a 99 HI.




I have no idea I know its hot how they get what they get you would have to email the weather peeps at the airport
1144. LargoFl
Quoting 1137. zampaz:

The Arctic is melting, the jet stream is changing.
There is a scientific consensus as to why this is happening.
Reality doesn't care about ideology or politics.
I wonder, with the jet stream changing, where the hurricane tracks will be in years to come,we all can see even today, the little changes in the weather patterns..perhaps 20-30 years from now..the patterns will be totally different than today..
Quoting 1135. LargoFl:


Florida gets a lot more tornadoes than most people think (I think).
1146. Patrap
.."The one thing about Science is, it don't care if you believe, it jus is"..
1147. LargoFl
Quoting 1141. washingtonian115:
Now isn't this just re-assuring.
If i lived in YOUR area Saturday, i'd be keeping a sharp eye on the weather this coming Saturday
1148. Grothar
Quoting 1132. Dakster:


Rained a little down here too. It was more like boating than driving this morning.

I got pulled over by a Florida Fish and Wildlife Officer on my way in to work this morning. I didn't have an FL number on the side of my truck.


I hope he got wet.
1149. LargoFl
Quoting 1145. mikatnight:


Florida gets a lot more tornadoes than most people think (I think).
..yes local mets think one happened last night out in polk county..took out some mobile homes etc.
1150. LargoFl
1151. Grothar
Quoting 1124. Waltanater:
I don't. Most avatars of people are annoying to look at.



Weelllll!
Quoting 1147. LargoFl:
If i lived in YOUR area Saturday, i'd be keeping a sharp eye on the weather this coming Saturday
Well here in D.C so far this year the tornado's have avoided the city either 25 miles to the north or south of it.We have a protective shield over the city :).

this is a test comment that moves
1154. Grothar
Quoting 1117. mikatnight:


Coconuts last year were not good. Blasted whitefly sucks the fun out of growing stuff. I'm strickly wait-and-see on the rain. Radar's been pulling the Charlie Brown and the Football deal on me all month.



I've also been predicting a huge article on Climate Change by him for days and he slyly keeps putting it off just to make me look bad. 'sok, I can take it.
BTW - he'll make a new post as soon as Grothar or I say something fantastically interesting...


He does it all the time. :)


Quoting 1130. zampaz:

What IRG shares of the greed of corporations and the impact on the environment in Florida saddens my heart.

Barbamz posted this link which discusses how (in this case) people chose to live near water by necessity, but now we have to rethink where we are living in the context of a changing climate.



"I, well, I wish I could swim
Like dolphins, like dolphins can swim.

Though nothing will keep us together,
We can beat them forever and ever.
We can be heroes just for one day!
What you say, yeah?
"

YouTube (Heroes)
1156. zampaz
Quoting 1133. dabirds:
Do they alter the heat index as you get further north? I have 90 w/ 73 dew pt and only a 99 HI.

The heat index (HI) or humiture or humidex (not to be confused with the Canadian humidex) is an index that combines air temperature and relative humidity in an attempt to determine the human-perceived equivalent temperature%u2014how hot it feels. The result is also known as the "felt air temperature" or "apparent temperature". For example, when the temperature is 90 F (32 C) with very high humidity, the heat index can be about 105 F (41 C).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Index
Edit:
This implies that the folks in Canada use a different method.
1157. Patrap
Would be great if it was Punctuated Keep.

They do that in Canada I hear.
1158. Dakster
Did the blog do a reset? I lost everyone's avatars.

Keeper?
1159. Grothar
Quoting 1153. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

this is a test comment that moves

Action:
Quote
| Ignore User


Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 150 Comments: 41765







Show off.
Quoting 1157. Patrap:
Would be great if it was Punctuated Keep.

They do that in Canada I hear.
are you grumpy today too

Quoting 1133. dabirds:
Do they alter the heat index as you get further north? I have 90 w/ 73 dew pt and only a 99 HI. 



I'm pretty sure Heat Index is based on temp and humidity, not dew point.
1162. Patrap
Quoting 1159. Grothar:



Wheres da caboose on dis ting'
1163. wpb
A link between the behavior of hurricanes and the amount of rain that falls in South Florida in May has been suggested by Jim Lushine, a meteorologist and weather forecaster at the National Weather Service in Miami.
1164. Grothar
Quoting 1136. mikatnight:
Everybody's so witty this morning!


I think you missed a t there, Mik.
1165. Patrap
Quoting 1160. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
are you grumpy today too


No way, went and saw Robert Plant here last night, some pics in me blog haus keep.
Quoting 1154. Grothar:


He does it all the time. :)




Apparently, he's not too impressed with our commentary this morning!

And KEEPER, really? showoff showoff showoff

(that's really neat, how's he do that anyway?)
1167. txjac
Reid blames climate change for Nevada fires, seeks funding for prevention

Link

Fighting for funding going on right now

Courtesy of Fox News (I know, dont say it)
1168. wpb
A link between the behavior of hurricanes and the amount of rain that falls in South Florida in May has been suggested by Jim Lushine, a meteorologist and weather forecaster at the National Weather Service in Miami.
Quoting 1166. mikatnight:


Apparently, he's not too impressed with our commentary this morning!

And KEEPER, really? showoff showoff showoff

(that's really neat, how's he do that anyway?)

its html code I have a bunch of them southern got me started just trying to remember them all now
1170. Patrap
Heat Relief in Sight for Some
Back To News »
By: Associated Press and weather.com
Published: July 18, 2013


NEW YORK — The largest heat wave of the summer has stagnated over large regions, bringing sizzling temperatures and little hope of relief without rain, a growing possibility for some hard-hit areas as the weekend approaches.

Most states in the U.S. had at least one region where the temperature hit 90 degrees Wednesday, according to the National Weather Service, though the worst heat was in the Midwest to Northeast. Humid air just made it all feel worse, with heat indexes in some places over 100.

It was hot enough to buckle highway pavement in several states. Firefighters in Indianapolis evacuated 300 people from a senior living community after a power outage knocked out the air conditioning. The state of Illinois opened cooling centers. The Environmental Protection Agency said the heat was contributing to air pollution in New England.

(MORE: Relief in Sight?)

Officials are blaming hot weather for at least one death. A 78-year-old Alzheimer's patient died of heat exhaustion after wandering away from his northern Kentucky home Tuesday in temperatures that rose to 93 degrees.

In New York City, where it was 96 degrees, sidewalk food vendor Ahmad Qayumi said that by 11 a.m., the cramped space inside his steel-walled cart got so hot that he had to turn off his grill and coffee machine.

"It was just too hot. I couldn't breathe," he said, turning away a customer who asked for a hamburger. "Just cold drinks," he said.

Amid the heat, officials in Washington D.C.'s Maryland suburbs worked to keep a failing water main from cutting off hundreds of thousands of people, just when they needed it most. People in Prince George's County were asked not to run their faucets, water their lawns or flush toilets to keep the water system from emptying during emergency repairs.

Firefighters in southern California faced brutally hot — but dangerously dry — conditions as they battled a wildfire outside Palm Springs that had already consumed seven homes.

New Mexico and parts of Texas turned out to be rare outposts of cool air Wednesday — but not without trouble of their own: heavy rains prompted flood watches and warnings in some areas. More than five inches of rain fell in 24 hours in Plainview, north of Lubbock, according to the National Weather Service.

At the World Trade Center reconstruction site in New York City, workers building a rail hub dripped under their hardhats, thick gloves and heavy-duty boots. Some wore towels around their necks to wipe away the sweat.

"We're drinking a lot of water, down under by the tracks, in and out of the sun all day — very hot," said carpenter Elizabeth Fontanez, of the Bronx, who labored with 20 pounds of tools and safety equipment strapped to her waist. Since the heat wave began, she said she has been changing shirts several times during her shifts.

Cooler temperatures are within sight but likely not soon enough and cool enough for a large swath of the country hit with dangerously high temperatures for days as the largest heat wave of the summer failed to budge from South Dakota to Massachusetts.

The relief is expected to begin arriving Thursday in some regions of the country as a cold front drops south from Canada. But it is not soon enough for others. New York City, for instance, is bracing for another day of temperatures in the high 90s.

Cooler temperatures are likely to sweep through the Midwest and into the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast regions by Saturday. They might be accompanied by severe thunderstorms.
1171. Grothar
It looks like the west coast of Florida is going to get some heavy rain today and tomorrow. That wave over the Northern Antilles looks good.

1172. 7544
morning everyone looking bloobish in the gulf is that also moving east today tia

and pr blob looking better today
The shower head has turned off over SE TX

Michael
Quoting 1169. KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


its html code I have a bunch of them southern got me started just trying to remember them all now


Yellow isn't the best color to use. It doesn't show up well and is harder to see.

Indian Hills, Jurupa Valley, California (PWS)
Updated: 8:16 AM PDT on July 18, 2013
Mostly Cloudy

66.7 %uFFFDF
Mostly Cloudy
Humidity: 46%
Dew Point: 45 %uFFFDF
Wind: Calm
Wind Gust: 1.7 mph
Pressure: 29.95 in (Rising)
Visibility: 10.0 miles
UV: 2.0 out of 16
Pollen: 1.90 out of 12
Pollen Forecast new!
Clouds:
Mostly Cloudy 20000 ft
(Above Ground Level)
Elevation: 1000 ft


Yellow shows much better when bolded
1176. zampaz

Keeper is a show off :)
Well, that's annoying, but fun in the context that a Sharnado was fun.
Quoting 1174. RitaEvac:
The shower head has turned off over SE TX


Back to the death ridge.

1178. Patrap
Great. Now the blog doesn't just go up and down anymore, now it moves sideways. I'm getting dizzy...
Well, since we're showing off here... :)
May get a rogue storm out this CU. Neat picture...


Afternoon Showers and Thunderstorms

Afternoon showers and thunderstorms will begin to develop soon. A few small showers are already popping up across the Treasure Coast counties and ongoing showers in Palm Beach County will move northward into the area. Elsewhere, showers with a few storms will develop across the Space Coast and Orlando Metro areas this afternoon. Locally heavy rainfall is possible and may cause brief nuisance flooding. Other threats from today's storms include lightning and gusty winds. Storm motion along the Treasure Coast will be out of the south while it will be more out of the east and southeast (shifting more southerly through the afternoon) from Brevard County northward.

Dangerous rip currents have already been reported at East Central Florida beaches today. Please swim in sight of a lifeguard if you choose to get in the water and be sure to explain the threat to your out-of-town guests.
Mowed the grass last evening, deep tropical humid air, sweated like a water hose was pouring over me. But it was nice only around 80 degrees, just soaked. Grass turned green overnight with no sun for past few days and the little rain received.
1184. zampaz
Quoting 1165. Patrap:


No way, went and saw Robert Plant here last night, some pics in me blog haus keep.

You lucky B-d;)
Quoting 1170. Patrap:
Heat Relief in Sight for Some
Back To News »
By: Associated Press and weather.com
Published: July 18, 2013


NEW YORK — The largest heat wave of the summer has stagnated over large regions, bringing sizzling temperatures and little hope of relief without rain, a growing possibility for some hard-hit areas as the weekend approaches.

Most states in the U.S. had at least one region where the temperature hit 90 degrees Wednesday, according to the National Weather Service, though the worst heat was in the Midwest to Northeast. Humid air just made it all feel worse, with heat indexes in some places over 100.

It was hot enough to buckle highway pavement in several states. Firefighters in Indianapolis evacuated 300 people from a senior living community after a power outage knocked out the air conditioning. The state of Illinois opened cooling centers. The Environmental Protection Agency said the heat was contributing to air pollution in New England.

(MORE: Relief in Sight?)

Officials are blaming hot weather for at least one death. A 78-year-old Alzheimer's patient died of heat exhaustion after wandering away from his northern Kentucky home Tuesday in temperatures that rose to 93 degrees.

In New York City, where it was 96 degrees, sidewalk food vendor Ahmad Qayumi said that by 11 a.m., the cramped space inside his steel-walled cart got so hot that he had to turn off his grill and coffee machine.

"It was just too hot. I couldn't breathe," he said, turning away a customer who asked for a hamburger. "Just cold drinks," he said.

Amid the heat, officials in Washington D.C.'s Maryland suburbs worked to keep a failing water main from cutting off hundreds of thousands of people, just when they needed it most. People in Prince George's County were asked not to run their faucets, water their lawns or flush toilets to keep the water system from emptying during emergency repairs.

Firefighters in southern California faced brutally hot — but dangerously dry — conditions as they battled a wildfire outside Palm Springs that had already consumed seven homes.

New Mexico and parts of Texas turned out to be rare outposts of cool air Wednesday — but not without trouble of their own: heavy rains prompted flood watches and warnings in some areas. More than five inches of rain fell in 24 hours in Plainview, north of Lubbock, according to the National Weather Service.

At the World Trade Center reconstruction site in New York City, workers building a rail hub dripped under their hardhats, thick gloves and heavy-duty boots. Some wore towels around their necks to wipe away the sweat.

"We're drinking a lot of water, down under by the tracks, in and out of the sun all day — very hot," said carpenter Elizabeth Fontanez, of the Bronx, who labored with 20 pounds of tools and safety equipment strapped to her waist. Since the heat wave began, she said she has been changing shirts several times during her shifts.

Cooler temperatures are within sight but likely not soon enough and cool enough for a large swath of the country hit with dangerously high temperatures for days as the largest heat wave of the summer failed to budge from South Dakota to Massachusetts.

The relief is expected to begin arriving Thursday in some regions of the country as a cold front drops south from Canada. But it is not soon enough for others. New York City, for instance, is bracing for another day of temperatures in the high 90s.

Cooler temperatures are likely to sweep through the Midwest and into the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast regions by Saturday. They might be accompanied by severe thunderstorms.


So my sister who lives in NYC texted me this morning saying how expletive hot and humid it is. So bad that the city smells like rotting garbage right now and that if this continues she expects to see ferns and pterodactyls flying around. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. In the South we call that kind of weather Tuesday. :)
1186. Patrap
1187. zampaz
Edit: Oops, sorry. Sensitive subject removed.
Quoting 1181. ILwthrfan:
May get a rogue storm out this CU. Neat picture...



I see a boundary going through Minnesota, storms will probably fire up on or ahead of it later this afternoon.
1189. LargoFl
Heavens to Mergatroid...where has the time gone? Stuff to do, have a great day all!

Pat - he didn't mean anything by it.

Scott - take the post down, you gotta respect he has strong feelings on the issue.

Exits...stage left.
1191. LargoFl
Issued by The National Weather Service
Miami, FL
11:40 am EDT, Thu., Jul. 18, 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIAMI HAS ISSUED A

* SPECIAL MARINE WARNING FOR... COASTAL WATERS FROM DEERFIELD BEACH TO OCEAN REEF FL OUT 20 NM BISCAYNE BAY

* UNTIL 1230 PM EDT

* AT 1139 AM EDT... NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A THUNDERSTORM... CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A WATERSPOUT 5 NM SOUTHEAST OF CAPE FLORIDA... MOVING NORTH AT 5 KNOTS. THIS STORM WILL PASS CLOSE TO KEY BISCAYNE... VIRGINIA KEY AND MIAMI BEACH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

AS THUNDERSTORMS MOVE OVER THE WATER... MARINERS CAN EXPECT STRONG GUSTY WINDS... HIGH SEAS... DANGEROUS LIGHTNING... AND HEAVY RAIN. MOVE TO SAFE HARBOR OR STAY CLOSE TO SHORE UNTIL THE STORM PASSES. IF CAUGHT ON THE OPEN WATER... MAKE SURE ALL SAFETY GEAR IS AVAILABLE AND LIFE JACKETS ARE BEING WORN BY YOU AND YOUR CREW.

WATERSPOUTS CAN EASILY OVERTURN BOATS AND CREATE LOCALLY HAZARDOUS SEAS. YOUR BEST COURSE OF EVASIVE ACTION IF THREATENED BY A WATERSPOUT IS TO MOVE AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE FROM ITS APPARENT MOVEMENT. SEEK SAFE HARBOR IMMEDIATELY.

&&


Obouy#8

BBL need to play with the lawn............
Quoting 1185. calkevin77:


So my sister who lives in NYC texted me this morning saying how expletive hot and humid it is. So bad that the city smells like rotting garbage right now and that if this continues she expects to see ferns and pterodactyls flying around. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. In the South we call that kind of weather Tuesday. :)


The old saying is "can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen"
1194. LargoFl
supposedly our storms begin here in another hour or so
1195. zampaz
Quoting 1180. Neapolitan:
Well, since we're showing off here... :)


Well Said Nea! TESTING SHARKNADO ALERT!


1196. LargoFl
real mean looking line of storms by Ft Myers huh.......
Quoting 1074. Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90


D. Everybody!
1198. Patrap
Sumeria WU forecast

1199. tramp96
Why did the NWS come off their severe weather prediction
for Friday and Saturday? Is it cause the jet stream isn't dipping
far enough south?
1200. Patrap
Lunch time

The writers, producers, directors, and actors were all on LSD.

We should forgive, but never forget.
Quoting Grothar:
I am thinking of changing my avatar to a current picture of myself. How many would like to see it?

A. 50%
B Nobody
C. Only people over 90

My guess is... D All of the above. LOL
if you dont like weather (rain, storms, etc. ) move to daytona beach florida.... everything always goes just north or south of daytona or dies out before it gets to daytona
1205. JLPR2
Jeez, the sky is falling and very loud in my area.



That weak TW sure packed a wallop.
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
1207. Patrap
The 11:11am CDT T-storm is right on schedule today again.


1208. Grothar




Oh, yeah. Well what do you show-offs think of this:














.
When it's like this....






I have some of these aptly named drinks.



Goodnight all.
Stay dry stay cool, most importantly, stay safe.
Quoting 1204. thunderstromsmike:
if you dont like weather (rain, storms, etc. ) move to daytona beach florida.... everything always goes just north or south of daytona or dies out before it gets to daytona


Except on Race Day....lol That would be Nascar only. The others use rain tires if need be.
LOL, guess that means toss this run in the garbage can.

1212. Msdrown
Who says the doc doesn't have a sense of humor? Sharknado.

But doc I'd use a battery powered saws all myself for you hurrican kit.
1213. Msdrown
On another note, I went through a Hurrican in San Diego in 1982. Can't remember its name.
The sequel

Sharkacane!
When storm surge is out for blood!