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Tropical Storm Barry Forms

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:49 PM GMT on June 19, 2013

Data from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters this afternoon indicates that Tropical Storm Barry has formed in the extreme southern Gulf of Mexico. The aircraft measured winds at their flight level of 1000 feet as high as 47 mph, which implies winds of at least 40 mph at the surface, using the usual 10% reduction rule for winds measured at 1000 feet. Barry has a small but growing area of heavy thunderstorms, as seen on satellite loops. The thunderstorms are steadily showing more organization this afternoon, and low-level spiral bands have begun to appear. Wind shear was a moderate 15 knots on Wednesday afternoon, but is expected to fall to the light range, 5 - 10 knots, during the 12 hours before landfall. Barry is taking a very similar track Tropical Storm Marco of 2008. That storm spun up quickly in the Bay of Campeche and developed sustained winds of 65 mph before making landfall in Veracruz State of Mexico. Small storms like Barry and Marco (which was the smallest tropical storm ever recorded in the Atlantic) can experience very rapid fluctuations in intensity. The Bay of Campeche is a region where the topography aids the spin-up of tropical cyclones, and I expect Barry will have time to attain sustained winds of 65 mph before making landfall late Thursday morning or early Thursday afternoon near Veracruz, Mexico. However, since the storm is so small, these winds would affect only a very small portion of the coast. Heavy rain will be the main threat from Barry, regardless of whether or not it makes landfall as a weak or strong tropical storm. A ridge of high pressure over the Gulf of Mexico should keep any of Barry's rains from reaching the U.S. Elsewhere in the tropical Atlantic, none of the reliable computer models is showing tropical cyclone development in the next seven days.


Figure 1. MODIS satellite image of Tropical Storm Barry at 12:40 pm EDT June 19, 2013. Image credit: NASA.

Barry's place in history
Barry is the second named storm of June 2013, and its formation date of June 19 is a full six weeks earlier than the usual August 1 date of formation of the season's second storm. Only two hurricane seasons since 1851 have had as many as three tropical storms form in June: 1936 and 1968. The formation of two Gulf of Mexico storms so early in the year does not necessarily suggest that we will have an active hurricane season. June storms forming in the Caribbean and Tropical Atlantic are typically a harbinger of an active hurricane season, though.

The formation of Tropical Storm Andrea and now Tropical Storm Barry in June continues a pattern of an unusually large number of early-season Atlantic named storms we've seen in recent years. Climatologically, June is the second quietest month of the Atlantic hurricane season, behind November. During the period 1870 - 2012, we averaged one named storm every two years in June, and 0.7 named storms per year during May and June. In the nineteen years since the current active hurricane period began in 1995, there have been sixteen June named storms (if we include 2013's Tropical Storm Andrea and Tropical Storm Barry.) June activity has nearly doubled since 1995, and May activity has more than doubled (there were seventeen May storms in the 75-year period 1870 - 1994, compared to six in the nineteen-year period 1995 - 2013.) Some of this difference can be attributed to observation gaps, due to the lack of satellite data before 1966. However, even during the satellite era, we have seen an increase in both early season (May - June) and late season (November - December) Atlantic tropical storms. Dr. Jim Kossin of the University of Wisconsin looked at the reasons for this in a 2008 paper titled, "Is the North Atlantic hurricane season getting longer?" He concluded that there is a "apparent tendency toward more common early- and late-season storms that correlates with warming Sea Surface Temperature but the uncertainty in these relationships is high." He found that hurricane season for both the period 1950-2007 and 1980-2007 got longer by 5 - 10 days per decade (see my blog post on the paper.)

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Reader Comments

Quoting SLU:


It's because the surface pressures are forecast by the GFS to drop below average across a large part of the basin.
When did he and what comment # is that.
Wind increasing at Buoy SACV4 SW of Barry...


Station SACV4
EPA & Mexican Government Cooperative Program
Location: 19.174N 96.093W
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:00:00 UTC
Winds: NNW (330°) at 29.9 kt gusting to 35.0 kt
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.78 in and rising
Air Temperature: 79.0 F
Dew Point: 74.1 F
Quoting SLU:


It's because the surface pressures are forecast by the GFS to drop below average across a large part of the basin.


And would this ultimately help weaken the trade winds in the Caribbean?

Or would this mean that the Euro prediction is happening? Or am I way off base on both of those?
Quoting daddyjames:


@KM - How far inland is the moisture from the storm supposed to get? Over the mountains and into the Central Valley?

@HHJ - SD does not have a BB team - and your rooting for the college kid - I can deal with that ;)


Mid- to upper-level moisture associated with the residual 700 to 400 mb circulations can pretty easily travel hundreds of miles toward any given point. Based on the pattern, I could see some of this moisture (although probably not especially heavy) making it into portions of western and central Texas over the next 5 to 7 days.
Quoting HadesGodWyvern:


"FABIAN" (JMA 05/94W)


I see Leepi had the heck sheered out of it? Same fate for Fabian?
Quoting KoritheMan:


Mid- to upper-level moisture associated with the residual 700 to 400 mb circulations can pretty easily travel hundreds of miles toward any given point. Based on the pattern, I could see some of this moisture (although probably not especially heavy) making it into portions of western and central Texas over the next 5 to 7 days.


Silly me, the Central Valley of Mexico - they desperately need rain there. Just like Texas.
Quoting daddyjames:


Silly me, the Central Valley of Mexico - they desperately need rain there. Just like Texas.


The central valley of Mexico will see some rain as well.
One of the (many) times that we should have had a recon in. Probably a 50-60mph tropical storm, it's a shame Barry will be making landfall by the time the sun rises.
So we're at two named storms.

The next several months will have to pick up the pace in order to match my expectation of 19 named storms.

I think I said 19-10-5, so we'll see.

That's easily possible in ASO months anyway. One per week in those months, 2 already, 2 in July, 2 in November or December. Seems reasonable enough.
Quoting Civicane49:



Definitely a prominent CDO building over Barry, Hurricane intensity is not out of possibility, and it likely won't get there but by landfall tomorrow it could be a Moderate to Strong tropical storm. The structure is building nicely around it.
Quoting RTSplayer:
So we're at two named storms.

The next several months will have to pick up the pace in order to match my expectation of 19 named storms.

I think I said 19-10-5, so we'll see.

That's easily possible in ASO months anyway. One per week in those months, 2 already, 2 in July, 2 in November or December. Seems reasonable enough.


You and me in the same boat, except mine was 19-10-4.

I'm not sweating it, yet.
Quoting TylerStanfield:

Definitely a prominent CDO building over Barry, Hurticane intensity is not out of possibility, and it likely won't get there but by landfall tomorrow it could be a Moderate to Strong tropical storm. The structure is building nicely around it.
I agree.
Quoting RTSplayer:
So we're at two named storms.

The next several months will have to pick up the pace in order to match my expectation of 19 named storms.

I think I said 19-10-5, so we'll see.

That's easily possible in ASO months anyway. One per week in those months, 2 already, 2 in July, 2 in November or December. Seems reasonable enough.


2010 saw the formation of 19 named storms and we didn't see the 'B' storm until July... 19th? Somewhere around there. It was actually probably closer to the 22nd.

I'm just corroborating what you said, btw.
Quoting TylerStanfield:

Definitely a prominent CDO building over Barry, Hurticane intensity is not out of possibility, and it likely won't get there but by landfall tomorrow it could be a Moderate to Strong tropical storm. The structure is building nicely around it.


It is very unlikely for it to become a hurricane within several hours left over water. A moderate tropical storm at landfall is inevitable.
I have been building my hurricane archives and have satellite movies of all east pacific and atlantic basin named storms from 1978 to 2007 from the link below. Does anyone have a link for the last 7 years?

Link
Quoting CybrTeddy:
One of the (many) times that we should have had a recon in. Probably a 50-60mph tropical storm, it's a shame Barry will be making landfall by the time the sun rises.


Does it really matter, lol? Post-season analysis will verify everything.
Quoting TylerStanfield:

Definitely a prominent CDO building over Barry, Hurricane intensity is not out of possibility, and it likely won't get there but by landfall tomorrow it could be a Moderate to Strong tropical storm. The structure is building nicely around it.


Here is an animated loop for your observation:

Quoting KoritheMan:


Does it really matter, lol? Post-season analysis will verify everything.


If there isn't evidence there isn't need for a post-season change in intensity -- recon provides us that evidence.
Quoting daddyjames:


And would this ultimately help weaken the trade winds in the Caribbean?

Or would this mean that the Euro prediction is happening? Or am I way off base on both of those?
522. VR46L
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:
I have been building my hurricane archives and have satellite movies of all east pacific and atlantic basin named storms from 1978 to 2007 from the link below. Does anyone have a link for the last 7 years?

Link


Its not movies but for Static imagery this might be of interest

GOES East Image Search
Quoting CybrTeddy:


If there isn't evidence there isn't need for a post-season change in intensity -- recon provides us that evidence.


I read ya.
Quoting Gearsts:


Thanks Gearsts. Looks as if shear disappears over the Carib/Atlantic and explodes over the EPAC.

Hmm, pretty much the same time that the MJO arrives in the Atlantic, so I guess the beginning of July could be pretty interesting.

How you guys remember where all these different things are, I wouldn't know.
Quoting Civicane49:


It is very unlikely for it to become a hurricane within several hours left over water. A moderate tropical storm at landfall is inevitable.

My thoughts exactly ;)

Goodnight everyone.
Quoting TylerStanfield:

My thoughts exactly ;)

Goodnight everyone.
Goodnight Tyler,your a good friend.
Quoting daddyjames:


Thanks Gearsts. Looks as if shear disappears over the Carib/Atlantic and explodes over the EPAC.

Hmm, pretty much the same time that the MJO arrives in the Atlantic, so I guess the beginning of July could be pretty interesting.

How you guys remember where all these different things are, I wouldn't know.
That's for the trade winds so epac will probably warm up and the atlantic.
Quoting Civicane49:
Quoting Civicane49:
Cosme and Dalila.sweet anyways I always thought Cosme was the feminine of Cosmo my brother also thought Chantal was a male name lol.
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:
I have been building my hurricane archives and have satellite movies of all east pacific and atlantic basin named storms from 1978 to 2007 from the link below. Does anyone have a link for the last 7 years?

Link


You can find some here, not sure you can download them.

I know that they have "fast-forward" movies of entire season 2009 season

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/mult imedia/mm_gallery.html
Quoting Gearsts:
That's for the trade winds so epac will probably warm up and the atlantic.


Thoughts on whether that would push the warm water more to the East by Venezuela?
533. SLU
Quoting daddyjames:


And would this ultimately help weaken the trade winds in the Caribbean?

Or would this mean that the Euro prediction is happening? Or am I way off base on both of those?


It's totally opposite to the EURO. I have a strong suspicion that the EURO forecast will bust again like last year.
Quoting Civicane49:


Could be interesting - lets see if it holds out a couple of days from now.

--------Intensity------- -Tno Values-- ---Tno/CI Rules--- -Temperature-
Time Final/MSLPLat/Vmax Fnl Adj Ini Cnstrnt Wkng Rpd Cntr Mean Scene EstRMW Storm Location Fix
Date (UTC) CI MSLP /BiasAdj/(kts) Tno Raw Raw Limit Flag Wkng Region Cloud Type (km) Lat Lon Mthd Comments
2013JUN20 041500 3.1 998.8/ +0.0 / 47.0 3.1 3.3 3.3 NO LIMIT OFF OFF -71.96 -59.57 UNIFRM N/A 19.60 96.03 FCST
Quoting SLU:


It's totally opposite to the EURO. I have a strong suspicion that the EURO forecast will bust again like last year.


would you know enough of what factors the EURO weighs so that it is goes out on such a limb with the ENSO?

I thought the EURO was calling for warming of the EPAC - El Nino
Quoting SLU:


It's totally opposite to the EURO. I have a strong suspicion that the EURO forecast will bust again like last year.


I think too much faith is put into the Euro most of the time. I don't have the actual statistics, and I realize the stereotype that it's infallible has to come from somewhere, but... come on. It does very poorly with genesis and ENSO from what I've seen.
Quoting daddyjames:


Could be interesting - lets see if it holds out a couple of days from now.


CMC also agrees with the GFS on this scenario. It would be interesting to see the Fujiwhara interaction in the eastern Pacific.
Quoting KoritheMan:


I think too much faith is put into the Euro most of the time. I don't have the actual statistics, and I realize the stereotype that it's infallible has to come from somewhere, but... come on. It does very poorly with genesis and ENSO from what I've seen.


Levi sates that the EURO outperforms the other models with ENSO - I would not know.
what up with all the lows on this map!! there is more the ten lows on this crazy map!!
Barry looking good.
Quoting Civicane49:


CMC also agrees with the GFS on this scenario. It would be interesting to see the Fujiwhara interaction in the eastern Pacific.


If they both get strong enough, and w=one does not parasitize the other.
Quoting VR46L:


Its not movies but for Static imagery this might be of interest

GOES East Image Search


Thank you!
Quoting daddyjames:


Levi sates that the EURO outperforms the other models with ENSO - I would not know.


Levi wouldn't just make stuff up. He's one of the few people here that actually have my legitimate respect. I'll have to debate with him about that at a later time.

All I know is... it flopped last year. Horribly.

It does seem to do rather well with forecasting the upper air pattern most of the time, though.
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:
I have been building my hurricane archives and have satellite movies of all east pacific and atlantic basin named storms from 1978 to 2007 from the link below. Does anyone have a link for the last 7 years?

Link


HHJ - you still here?

CIMSS also has animated satellite movies for some storms HERE
Quoting Civicane49:


CMC also agrees with the GFS on this scenario. It would be interesting to see the Fujiwhara interaction in the eastern Pacific.


We did see one. Hurricane Felicia and Tropical Storm Enrique danced around in 2009.
Quoting KoritheMan:


We did see one. Hurricane Felicia and Tropical Storm Enrique danced around in 2009.


Yeah, that was the last one I saw. Felicia was the last storm to threaten Hawaii in 2009.

--------Intensity------- -Tno Values-- ---Tno/CI Rules--- -Temperature-
Time Final/MSLPLat/Vmax Fnl Adj Ini Cnstrnt Wkng Rpd Cntr Mean Scene EstRMW Storm Location Fix
Date (UTC) CI MSLP /BiasAdj/(kts) Tno Raw Raw Limit Flag Wkng Region Cloud Type (km) Lat Lon Mthd Comments
2013JUN20 044500 3.2 997.6/ +0.0 / 49.0 3.2 3.4 3.4 NO LIMIT OFF OFF -71.46 -62.35 UNIFRM N/A 19.60 96.08 FCST
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.1 / 997.6mb/ 47.0kt

Quoting Civicane49:


Yeah, that was the last one I saw. Felicia was the last storm to threaten Hawaii in 2009.
Quoting Civicane49:


Yeah, that was the last one I saw. Felicia was the last storm to threaten Hawaii in 2009.
Yeah she kill Enrique what a poor storm.
Veracruz, Mexico

Quoting daddyjames:


You can find some here, not sure you can download them.

I know that they have "fast-forward" movies of entire season 2009 season

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/mult imedia/mm_gallery.html


thank you for both!
Quoting Civicane49:
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.1 / 997.6mb/ 47.0kt

I think it is 50mph system.
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM BARRY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 11A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022013
100 AM CDT THU JUN 20 2013

...BARRY APPROACHING THE COAST OF THE STATE OF VERACRUZ MEXICO...


SUMMARY OF 100 AM CDT...0600 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.6N 96.1W
ABOUT 30 MI...45 KM NNE OF VERACRUZ MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH...75 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 6 MPH...9 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES
1:00 AM CDT Thu Jun 20
Location: 19.6°N 96.1°W
Moving: W at 6 mph
Min pressure: 1004 mb
Max sustained: 45 mph
This is not the appearance of a 40 knot tropical storm. We will never know its true intensity because the storm will be moving ashore before recon gets there.

^^ TropicalAnalystwx13 is right, just look at those cold cloud tops....

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
This is not the appearance of a 40 knot tropical storm. We will never know its true intensity because the storm will be moving ashore before recon gets there.



Maybe we'll get a timely microwave pass.
Impressive convective signature as it approaches the coast. 45kt intensity seems about right to me.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
This is not the appearance of a 40 knot tropical storm. We will never know its true intensity because the storm will be moving ashore before recon gets there.



This is probably a 45 knot storm.
Quoting Civicane49:


This is probably a 45 knot storm.
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Impressive convective signature as it approaches the coast. 45kt intensity seems about right to me.

Typically I'd agree, but due to the curvature of the Bay of Campeche, winds may be a tad stronger than satellite would lead one to believe. Could be 60 mph right now. Again, we'll never know.

Quoting KoritheMan:


Maybe we'll get a timely microwave pass.

Lol. That would be too easy.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Typically I'd agree, but due to the curvature of the Bay of Campeche, winds may be a tad stronger than satellite would lead one to believe. Could be 60 mph right now. Again, we'll never know.


Lol. That would be too easy.


Maybe Surface obs could report higher winds.
old satellite
about 20 miles offshore?
any recomendations on deep fryers?
Still at 40 knots, but pressure is down to 1003 mb.

AL, 02, 2013062006, , BEST, 0, 196N, 961W, 40, 1003, TS,
UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 8.1.4
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 20 JUN 2013 Time : 054500 UTC
Lat : 19:36:05 N Lon : 96:00:02 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.3 / 995.1mb/ 51.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.3 3.5 3.5

Center Temp : -64.2C Cloud Region Temp : -62.9C

Scene Type : UNIFORM CDO CLOUD REGION

Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 40km
- Environmental MSLP : 1011mb

Satellite Name : GOES13
Satellite Viewing Angle : 33.1 degrees
wxchaser and I realized that the tropical cyclones of 2013 have thus far originated from entirely tropical sources. This time last year, we had three named storms (Alberto, Beryl, and Chris), all of which had baroclinic origins above 25N.

I think it's a safe bet that, barring an unexpected El Nino, we'll see a lot more intense and long-lived storms in the Atlantic in 2013. Anytime we get storms forming predominantly in the subtropics like last year, it typically means the MDR isn't particularly favorable. This year it seems to be. I would consider convectively active 92L a couple weeks ago as evidence of that as well.
Quoting KoritheMan:
wxchaser and I realized that the tropical cyclones of 2013 have thus far originated from entirely tropical sources. This time last year, we had three named storms (Alberto, Beryl, and Chris), all of which had baroclinic origins above 25N.

I think it's a safe bet that, barring an unexpected El Nino, we'll see a lot more intense and long-lived storms in the Atlantic in 2013. Anytime we get storms forming predominantly in the subtropics like last year, it typically means the MDR isn't particularly favorable. This year it seems to be. I would consider convectively active 92L a couple weeks ago as evidence of that as well.


Agreed. So far, we've seen two tropical storms developing within the tropics in June as well as 92L in the MDR. This is usually a harbinger of a more active hurricane season this year in terms of major hurricanes and ACE than last year. We should see more activity in the MDR than in the subtropics.

Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #5
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05
15:00 PM JST June 20 2013
=====================================

SUBJECT: Tropical Depression In South China Sea

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression (1000 hPa) near 16.1N 117.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The depression is reported as moving north northeast slowly.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 18.6N 116.4E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm) South China Sea

Additional Information
=======================
Tropical Depression will move at the same speed for the next 24 hours

Cyclone will be upgraded to a tropical storm within 24 hours

Cyclone will develop because spiral cloud bands have become well organized

Final initial Dvorak number will be T2.5 after 24 hours


Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #29
TROPICAL STORM LEEPI (T1304)
15:00 PM JST June 20 2013
=====================================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon Named Cyclone In East China Sea

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Leepi (994 hPa) near 28.5N 125.2E has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 60 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving north at 16 knots.

Gale Force Winds
================
300 NM from the center in southeast quadrant
130 NM from the center in northwest quadrant

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 32.4N 132.1E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm) near Nobeoka [Japan]
48 HRS: 33.3N 146.6E - Extratropical Low In Sea East Of Japan

Additional Information
=======================
LEEPI will move north northeast for the next 24 hours then move eastward

Cyclone will weaken because landfall is expected within 24 hours

Final initial Dvorak number will be T2.5 after 24 hours
Watch this buoy as Barry approaches the coast. Link

Station LMBV4
EPA & Mexican Government Cooperative Program
Location: 19.594N 96.379W
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:00:00 UTC
Winds: NW (310°) at 7.0 kt gusting to 12.0 kt
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.79 in and falling
Air Temperature: 74.8 F
Dew Point: 74.3 F
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.5 / 992.5mb/ 55.0kt
Quoting Civicane49:
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.5 / 992.5mb/ 55.0kt
They need to go with that strength.
4 for 4 1, andrea landfall big bend a wk before it happened 2.called td 2 a few hrs before it was declared 3 said it would make landfall as a moderate tropical storm 4. said the tw would go poof after moving through the windwards. my character has been on fire this yr. hopefully im wrong about the s fl. impact during cv season
Quoting Civicane49:
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.5 / 992.5mb/ 55.0kt
Quoting Civicane49:
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.5 / 992.5mb/ 55.0kt
65mph Amazing.
Quoting HurricaneAndre:
They need to go with that strength.
I agree but the NHC will probably take the conservative side.
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM BARRY ADVISORY NUMBER 12
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022013
400 AM CDT THU JUN 20 2013

...BARRY ABOUT TO MAKE LANDFALL IN THE STATE OF VERACRUZ MEXICO...


SUMMARY OF 400 AM CDT...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.6N 96.2W
ABOUT 30 MI...45 KM N OF VERACRUZ MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH...75 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1003 MB...29.62 INCHES
TROPICAL STORM BARRY DISCUSSION NUMBER 12
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022013
400 AM CDT THU JUN 20 2013

SURFACE OBSERVATIONS FROM THE LAGUNA VERDE...VERACRUZ HARBOR AND
SACRIFICE ISLAND STATIONS NEAR THE CITY OF VERACRUZ INDICATE THAT
THE CENTER IS VERY NEAR THE COAST...AND BARRY SHOULD MAKE LANDFALL
IN THE STATE OF VERACRUZ SHORTLY. THERE HAS BEEN NO APPRECIABLE
CHANGE IN THE ORGANIZATION OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE ON SATELLITE
IMAGERY...AND THE CURRENT INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 40 KT FOR THIS
ADVISORY. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN INTENSITY SEEMS LIKELY IN THE
SHORT TIME REMAINING BEFORE THE CENTER CROSSES THE COAST. WEAKENING
SHOULD BE RAPID AFTER THE CENTER MOVES INLAND AND THE CIRCULATION
INTERACTS WITH THE EXTREMELY MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN OF SOUTHERN
MEXICO. THE SYSTEM WILL LIKELY DISSIPATE IN A DAY OR SO.

THE INITIAL MOTION CONTINUES TO BE SLOWLY WESTWARD OR ABOUT 270/4.
A WEAK MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTH OF BARRY SHOULD MAINTAIN THIS
WESTWARD MOTION UNTIL DISSIPATION. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS
VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ONE AND ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
TRACK GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.

THE MAIN THREAT POSED BY THIS TROPICAL CYCLONE CONTINUES TO BE HEAVY
RAINS THAT COULD CAUSE SIGNIFICANT FLOODING AND MUD SLIDES OVER A
LARGE PORTION OF SOUTHERN MEXICO.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 20/0900Z 19.6N 96.2W 40 KT 45 MPH
12H 20/1800Z 19.6N 97.0W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
24H 21/0600Z 19.6N 98.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
36H 21/1800Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER PASCH/LANDSEA
Quoting Civicane49:
Quoting Civicane49:
Probably a 60mph ts
Barry is about to make landfall near Veracruz, Mexico.



With that I'm out.


Good morning to all.


This Twave looks set to bring a rainy weekend to the Bahamas and Cuba. I have to say, though, it doesn't look as vigorous a rainmaker as it seemed likely to be yesterday.

I'm getting more and more angry about the NHC being so conservative this year. Andrea was at least a 70 mph storm, then there was 92L which was at least a T.D. and now there's Barry, who is certainly stronger than 45 mph.

"THERE HAS BEEN NO APPRECIABLE
CHANGE IN THE ORGANIZATION OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE ON SATELLITE
IMAGERY...AND THE CURRENT INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 40 KT FOR THIS
ADVISORY."

Ridiculous.
This board is amazing. Yesterday a.m. somebody was complaining that NHC is now too liberal.

Now they're too conservative.

But wait... forgot no politics on the blog...
Good morning. Not sure why the NHC didn't bump the intensity up at 5AM. Barry looks much stronger than 45mph. Raw T# is up to a 4.0 which would suggest minimal hurricane force winds, and the others numbers aren't far behind it.

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.5 / 992.6mb/ 55.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.5 3.7 4.0

Even if those are half a point too high it would still be 50-60mph.
592. SLU
Quoting daddyjames:


would you know enough of what factors the EURO weighs so that it is goes out on such a limb with the ENSO?

I thought the EURO was calling for warming of the EPAC - El Nino
Quoting KoritheMan:


I think too much faith is put into the Euro most of the time. I don't have the actual statistics, and I realize the stereotype that it's infallible has to come from somewhere, but... come on. It does very poorly with genesis and ENSO from what I've seen.


The EURO has been the best model with the ENSO for the last several years but overall this year it has performed poorly with its Atlantic seasonal forecasts. It predicted high pressures last year and that was absolutely incorrect. This year, it's seasonal forecast has been jumping from one scenario to the next from month to month so there's no consistency. It also failed to predict cyclogenesis in the Indian Ocean, EPAC and also failed to acknowledge the genesis of BARRY although the GFS might have been overly aggressive with it.

Concerning ENSO, there's no sign of that happening this year with the SOI screaming La Nina with values of over 10. The negative IOD is also more of a La Nina setup than El Nino. This is why I believe the EURO will bust again this year.
Quoting BahaHurican:
This board is amazing. Yesterday a.m. somebody was complaining that NHC is now too liberal.

Now they're too conservative.

But wait... forgot no politics on the blog...


I think he meant 'conservative' with a small 'c', which has a non-political meaning. Personally, I'm quite liberal when I'm pouring whisky. Language, eh?
Quoting yonzabam:


I think he meant 'conservative' with a small 'c', which has a non-political meaning. Personally, I'm quite liberal when I'm pouring whisky. Language, eh?


I see what you did there :)))
While T numbers suggest higher wind speed for Barry, the very small area of these winds likely will not pass over a reliable monitoring station , so we may never know ....
Quoting BahaHurican:
This board is amazing. Yesterday a.m. somebody was complaining that NHC is now too liberal.

Now they're too conservative.

But wait... forgot no politics on the blog...
;-) Remember, the NHC always names storms in order to pad their numbers because that justifies their existence, except when they're not naming things they should in order to not scare people, which contradicts with their plan to name they things they shouldn't in order to "prove" global warming, but they only do that when they're not giving names to storms they should because to do so would hike interest rates and lead to a recession, though that's offset by them naming things they shouldn't because they get paid on a per-storm basis...

Despite their many other obvious problems, the biggest issue with anti-NHC conspiracy theories is they're just so extraordinarily laughable...
Good Morning Blog..and blob..

Quoting ncstorm:
Good Morning Blog..and blob..



Is this the blob which the GFS developed into a TS a few days ago?
Quoting fabian171017:


Is this the blob which the GFS developed into a TS a few days ago?


the CMC and Euro have been hinting at this feature but nothing as strong as a TS..the strongest I saw was a 1008 mb..
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Good morning. Not sure why the NHC didn't bump the intensity up at 5AM. Barry looks much stronger than 45mph. Raw T# is up to a 4.0 which would suggest minimal hurricane force winds, and the others numbers aren't far behind it.

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.5 / 992.6mb/ 55.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.5 3.7 4.0

Even if those are half a point too high it would still be 50-60mph.


The human derived T#s are much lower:

AL 02 201306200545 DVTS CI 1960N 9590W TAFB 2020 ///// Final T-No. based on MET and Pattern T-No.
AL 02 201306200545 DVTS CI 1970N 9610W SAB 1520 ///// DT=1.5 BO CBND MET=2.0 PT=1.5 FTBO DT
The models continue quiet in terms of long range development even with the MJO pulse arriving. As Levi said in his tweets,if this next pulse comes and goes rapidly then things will not be as easy to develop.
Quoting ncstorm:


Lovely, more rain for my state...
NWS Miami ‏@NWSMiami 1m
Heavy #rainfall early this morning led to minor street #flooding along portions of North Miami Beach from 91 to 96st between 3-6am (2.5").
7:00 AM CDT Thu Jun 20
Location: 19.6°N 96.4°W
Moving: W at 3 mph
Min pressure: 1004 mb
Max sustained: 45 mph
At least 60 MPH by now...
607. SLU
Upper level winds to become highly favourable for development across the MDR by month end. This could open the door for July Cape Verde activity once the SAL diminishes.





Quoting flcanes:
At least 60 MPH by now...


Yeah, but NHC doesn't appear they will upgrade it...
Quoting KoritheMan:


Does it really matter, lol? Post-season analysis will verify everything.


So we have an possible upgrade to storm in post season analysis for at least two storms this year, with possible upgrade to hurricane for Barry? What happens if they decide the other two storms were really tropical storms and should have been named? Do they give them a name in post season analysis, or just refer to them as no name storms?
610. SLU
Quoting HurricaneDevo:


So we have an possible upgrade to storm in post season analysis for at least two storms this year, with possible upgrade to hurricane for Barry? What happens if they decide the other two storms were really tropical storms and should have been named? Do they give them a name in post season analysis, or just refer to them as no name storms?


They're just upgraded to "Unnamed Tropical Storm". There was one in 2011.


Long Range Loop Brownsville, TX Radar shows outer rainband of Barry
Good morning once again fair bloggers!


Taken around 6:45am. Rain was offshore, but none for us.


The bottom flag is my neighbor's Baltimore Ravens Superbowl Champs. It's getting a little ragged. I figure it'll disintegrate by the time NFL season rolls around.
Quoting mikatnight:
Good morning once again fair bloggers!


Taken around 6:45am. Rain was offshore, but none for us.


The bottom flag is my neighbor's Baltimore Ravens Superbowl Champs. It's getting a little ragged. I figure it'll disintegrate by the time NFL season rolls around.


Or the flag can end up in Baltimore by the time hurricane season is over.
Quoting Jwd41190:


Yeah, but NHC doesn't appear they will upgrade it...


IF Barry actually had 60 mph winds (which it doesn't), what exactly would it be upgraded to?
Quoting rmbjoe1954:


Or the flag can end up in Baltimore by the time hurricane season is over.


As long as it and pieces of his house don't end up in my yard and pieces of my house don't end up in someone elses yard...could be ok? (fingers crossed)
618. VR46L
Quoting Wiiilbur:


IF Barry actually had 60 mph winds (which it doesn't), what exactly would it be upgraded to?


Don't Know ,it would still be a Tropical Storm ....
619. VR46L
Good Morning Folks ...


Barry in Funktop

The June 20 update of the sst anomalies have some important points:

1-Gulf of Guinea is cold
2-Indian Ocean is cold.
3-Equatorial Pacific continues very well Neutral.
4-PDO has cooled again.
5-North Atlantic Tripole is further south.
6-MDR continues warm except for isolated cold spots.
7-GOM has warmed a lot.

621. MTWX
Forecasted high in Barrow Alaska today, according to WU, is 73 (NWS is quite a bit more conservative on their forecast of upper 50's). If it does indeed reach the WU high, then it would shatter its record high of 60 degrees for today set in 1989.

WU Forecast



NWS Forecast
Quoting Neapolitan:
;-) Remember, the NHC always names storms in order to pad their numbers because that justifies their existence, except when they're not naming things they should in order to not scare people, which contradicts with their plan to name they things they shouldn't in order to "prove" global warming, but they only do that when they're not giving names to storms they should because to do so would hike interest rates and lead to a recession, though that's offset by them naming things they shouldn't because they get paid on a per-storm basis...

Despite their many other obvious problems, the biggest issue with anti-NHC conspiracy theories is they're just so extraordinarily laughable...


Ahhh....my head hurts now.
Quoting HurricaneDevo:


So we have an possible upgrade to storm in post season analysis for at least two storms this year, with possible upgrade to hurricane for Barry? What happens if they decide the other two storms were really tropical storms and should have been named? Do they give them a name in post season analysis, or just refer to them as no name storms?

IMO, Barry will not get upgraded to a hurricane in post-analysis. Even though Barry spun up pretty quickly, the NHC analyzed the storm as having 45 mph winds. A minor 5- to 15-mph upgrade can happen, but 30-mph upgrade is near impossible.
Don't take this that serious though, it's just my opinion.
EDIT) Hmm... I just looked at the ADT numbers and they reached near 65 mph. But still, not enough to support a hurricane.
The big picture...

Tropical Storm BARRY

Quoting Wiiilbur:


IF Barry actually had 60 mph winds (which it doesn't), what exactly would it be upgraded to?


Nothing, it would stay a Tropical Storm. Category 1 starts at 74mph.

Weakening Flag has been thrown at Barry.. This maybe peak.. CI=3.5 994mb, raw T is dropping, cloud temps are rising..
Quoting Skyepony:
Weakening Flag has been thrown at Barry.. This maybe peak.. CI=3.5 994mb, raw T is dropping, cloud temps are rising..

Down to 35kts.

AL, 02, 2013062012, , BEST, 0, 196N, 964W, 35, 1004, TS
Quoting HurricaneDevo:


So we have an possible upgrade to storm in post season analysis for at least two storms this year, with possible upgrade to hurricane for Barry? What happens if they decide the other two storms were really tropical storms and should have been named? Do they give them a name in post season analysis, or just refer to them as no name storms?


Neither buoy data or satellite data ever indicated that Barry approached hurricane status. They might bump it to 60mph post-season, I've seen them do that before with similar situations, but probably nothing more.

After Barry, I suspect it's going to be 2-3 weeks before we get our next system.
Good Morning. See Barry is coming ashore and did not ever get to reach higher wind speeds. As always, it will bring flooding and mudslides to that region so the real threat, and potential loss of life, is going to materialize over the next few days.

On a tropical note, and we have been chasing Barry thje past few days, here is a portion of Tuesday's ENSO Outlook from the Aussies and the link to the full discussion below. We sort of knew that this has been a rather long stretch for Neutral conditions and they are not ruling out the possibility of a swing towards moderate La Nina conditions in a few months. If that does happen going into late-September/October we might squeeze out several more storms after the September peak period and we are in for a long season.

ENSO neutral; a negative IOD likely for southern winter-spring
Issued on Tuesday 18 June 2013 | Product Code IDCKGEWWOO

Despite a recent cooling trend in the far eastern tropical Pacific, ENSO indicators have generally remained neutral (neither El Niño nor La Niña) since mid-2012. While the vast majority of climate models surveyed by the Bureau suggest neutral ENSO conditions will persist through the winter, the development of La Niña in 2013 cannot be fully ruled out.

In the tropical Indian Ocean, warmer-than-average sea surface temperatures (SSTs) have persisted in the east, while SSTs in the western Indian Ocean have cooled over the past month or two. As a result of this pattern, the Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) index has been below −0.4 °C since mid-May. If this index remains at, or below, −0.4 °C until late July, then 2013 will be classified as a negative IOD year. All climate models surveyed now predict a negative IOD during the southern winter-spring period.

Climate Models:
Most international climate models surveyed by the Bureau indicate that SSTs in the equatorial Pacific Ocean are likely to remain neutral until at least the southern hemisphere spring, however the Bureau of Meteorology's model suggests there is a small chance of weak La Niña conditions forming during the winter months.


Link

Irrespective of the possible moderate La Nina towards the end of the season, not liking the Neutral conditions expected during the peak of the Cape Verde season because Neutral conditions tend to favor trajectories of very robust waves/storms right into the Lesser Antilles headed towards PR/Hispanola/Cuba/Florida.
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Neither buoy data or satellite data ever indicated that Barry approached hurricane status. They might bump it to 60mph post-season, I've seen them do that before with similar situations, but probably nothing more.

After Barry, I suspect it's going to be 2-3 weeks before we get our next system.


11 days.
Quoting MTWX:
Forecasted high in Barrow Alaska today, according to WU, is 73 (NWS is quite a bit more conservative on their forecast of upper 50's). If it does indeed reach the WU high, then it would shatter its record high of 60 degrees for today set in 1989.
Such a high wouldn't surprise me; crazy stuff going on up there. Nome, Alaska, set another all-time June high-temperature record yesterday, and in doing so tied it's absolute all-time high:

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NOME AK
134 AM AKDT THU JUN 20 2013

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR JUNE...

THE 86 DEGREE TEMPERATURE YESTERDAY TIED THE ALL-TIME RECORD HOWEVER
IT WAS THE RECORD HIGHEST TEMPERATURE FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. THE
PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 84 SET TWO DAYS AGO. THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURE OF
54 DEGREES ALSO BROKE THE HIGHEST MINIMUM TEMPERATURE BY 1 DEGREE SET
BACK IN 1991.
Seriously? Barry was never anything more than 45mph. Look at his convective structure. There is nothing there.

Quoting AussieStorm:


Nothing, it would stay a Tropical Storm. Category 1 starts at 74mph.



Exactly my point. I was confused by the original post that claimed that Barry had 60 mph winds but complained that the NHC wouldn't upgrade it.
Yet ANOTHER absolute gem in store for Southern Illinois!! Sunny and beautiful, with highs approaching the 90 degree mark! YES!!!!! <3

Natalie :)

Quoting Wiiilbur:


Exactly my point. I was confused by the original post that claimed that Barry had 60 mph winds but complained that the NHC wouldn't upgrade it.


I was saying that if Barry did have 60mph that the NHC would not upgrade the winds from 45mph to 60mph, not the category of the storm.
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs

Lithning right now in Germany (enlarge)

Hello over there. You see what's going on in Germany right now. My place (Mainz) wasn't affected until now by thunderstorms, just a bit cool (yes!!) wind this morning. But forecasters threaten us that an even more severe line with heavy storms (maybe tornados) should develop in France and cross us this night. The metereological situation is a bit complicated. Even the weather fans in a german blog are scratching their heads. "It's already over? Or something more to come? Where?" ....


Source to enlarge


Cloudtoptemps

What else? Strange things happen ...

One killed as roads burst in heatwave
Published: 20 Jun 13 10:01 CET
Quoting SouthernIllinois:
Yet ANOTHER absolute gem in store for Southern Illinois!! Sunny and beautiful, with highs approaching the 90 degree mark! YES!!!!! <3

Natalie :)



bringing out the colored text... fancy!

Quoting Torito:


bringing out the colored text... fancy!


Yeah, why not. I'm in a good mood. =)
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs
do they take info from me?
Getting hot up there in germany I hear....USA heat wave may come soon.

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seeing CAPE of 5000 in Germany today along with a little shear SE of a low near denamrk. Looks like some storms develop but it's complicated
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs


I am a member of CoCoRaHS
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Quoting Levi32:
Seriously? Barry was never anything more than 45mph. Look at his convective structure. There is nothing there.



Hi Levi,
Checking out your vid on Tropical Tidbits - almost watched the whole thing b4 my internet connection went splat. Absolutely stellar presentation. Going back to finish it in a sec (also going to add that link to the Hurricane Protocol guide post haste), but wanted to ask here on Masters' blog if you still think possible Modiki scenario?

Also - I'm trying to get folks to check out my post on surge protection. People really need to make sure they're protected, and not just when a storm rolls through. Check it out, even you might learn something - I know I did when researching the article.

TIA
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs

Especially in rural areas away from other rain gauges!
650. yoboi
Quoting Neapolitan:
Such a high wouldn't surprise me; crazy stuff going on up there. Nome, Alaska, set another all-time June high-temperature record yesterday, and in doing so tied it's absolute all-time high:

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NOME AK
134 AM AKDT THU JUN 20 2013

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR JUNE...

THE 86 DEGREE TEMPERATURE YESTERDAY TIED THE ALL-TIME RECORD HOWEVER
IT WAS THE RECORD HIGHEST TEMPERATURE FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. THE
PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 84 SET TWO DAYS AGO. THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURE OF
54 DEGREES ALSO BROKE THE HIGHEST MINIMUM TEMPERATURE BY 1 DEGREE SET
BACK IN 1991.



Why do you post more about the heat in Alaska than the cold temps they had this past winter?????? Do you blog less in the winter months??????
Quoting txag91met:
Hey weather weenies. Join cocorahs and start sending your rainfall measurements. Just buy the $25 rain gauge and send the rainfall measurements when it rains. This network is growing but needs more observers.

cocorahs


$25? Best I could come up with was around $40 + shipping.
Quoting barbamz:

Lithning right now in Germany (enlarge)

Hello over there. You see what's going on in Germany right now. My place (Mainz) wasn't affected until now by thunderstorms, just a bit cool (yes!!) wind this morning. But forecasters threaten us that an even more severe line with heavy storms (maybe tornados) should develop in France and cross us this night. The metereological situation is a bit complicated. Even the weather fans in a german blog are scratching their heads. "It's already over? Or something more to come? Where?" ....


Source to enlarge


Cloudtoptemps

What else? Strange things happen ...

One killed as roads burst in heatwave
Published: 20 Jun 13 10:01 CET


It's finally some decent weather! Had Obama's helecopters overhead last night to create a nice breeze even!
Giving some thoughts to poor northern India and Nepal:

10 Latest Developments
Uttarakhand: hundreds feared killed, choppers can't reach Kedarnath
Edited by Surabhi Malik (With Inputs from agencies) | Updated: June 20, 2013 16:39 IST
Quoting mikatnight:


$25? Best I could come up with was around $40 + shipping.

The seller's website right now seems to have the rain gauge listed on sale for $28.
Quoting largeeyes:


It's finally some decent weather! Had Obama's helecopters overhead last night to create a nice breeze even!


Lol, largeeyes! I hope you can enjoy some beergarden in Berlin as long as the warm weather is lasting. But hurry up!
Quoting ScottLincoln:

The seller's website right now seems to have the rain gauge listed on sale for $28.


I want one of those things bad. Maybe if I ask my wife real nice...
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.
Some nice pictures from a nightly supercell in Melsungen/Hassia/Germany yesterday. One of the series was shot by a 17 years old guy. Well done!
Good Morning All,
Hope all is well with everybody :o)
just thought I would check in today and see how our TS Barry is doing and see what other chatter is going own....

I have to take a few days off from here because of Surgery Tomorrow Morning.... But I hope you all play nice....


Taco :o)



Quoting yoboi:



Why do you post more about the heat in Alaska than the cold temps they had this past winter?????? Do you blog less in the winter months??????
I wrote numerous times about the Alaskan cold; you must have missed it. Anyway, the heat wave is an ongoing current event, while the cold was last season's news. And, of course, there's the simple fact that parts of Alaska being colder than normal in winter isn't nearly as striking a story as parts of Alaska being hotter than they have ever been in recorded history.

(You might want to see a computer specialist about that keyboard; the question mark button appears to be registering multiple key presses instead of just the single one normally used.)

;-)
Quoting taco2me61:
Good Morning All,
Hope all is well with everybody :o)
just thought I would check in today and see how our TS Barry is doing and see what other chatter is going own....

I have to take a few days off from here because of Surgery Tomorrow Morning.... But I hope you all play nice....


Taco :o)





I Hope everything goes okay, and you'll be back here in no time.
Quoting CaribBoy:
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.


It's been here for three days straight Boy. Not fun as you can tell -_-
663. SLU
Quoting CaribBoy:
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.


How much action did u get yesterday
From the Space Newsdesk...

Seriously? Barry was never anything more than 45mph. Look at his convective structure. There is nothing there.


this is just a sad statement by someone who started out as a weatherweenie and through education has surpassed that status...levi.....stop raining..(get it...weather pun) on the weenie wishcasting parade...without severe wind destruction...was it ever a tropical system....we can have rain and flooding by any ole storm...for it to be a true tropical system...we need pandomonium in the streets...buldings unroofed...and long lines of people standing in line for water and ice...i must agree with those...yes...barry reached wind speeds greater than 60mph...it was obvious to the untrained eye
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM BARRY ADVISORY NUMBER 13
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022013
1000 AM CDT THU JUN 20 2013

...BARRY MADE LANDFALL IN THE STATE OF VERACRUZ MEXICO...

SUMMARY OF 1000 AM CDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.6N 96.6W
ABOUT 40 MI...60 KM NW OF VERACRUZ MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
668. SLU
Quoting CaribBoy:
Boring dusty weather is back... it did not take LONG as usual.


A strong wave is due in your area in 5 days.

Quoting barbamz: Hello over there. You see what's going on in Germany right now.


Derecho pattern NW Germany.

Storms have been known to developed from frontal boundaries..

Area off the east coast


Well, being this IS barry aka "bath house barry"... I'm sure their will be some blowing going on!!