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Snow measured in feet, not inches: historic Nor'easter pounds New England

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:50 PM GMT on February 09, 2013

A historic Nor'easter roared through New England overnight, bringing snowfall measured in feet, not inches, hurricane-force wind gusts, and serious coastal flooding. The snow was heaviest in coastal Connecticut, where snowfall rates of 6"/hours were recorded, and an astonishing 40" piled up in Hamden. An all-time snowfall record was set in Portland, Maine, where 31.9" fell, and numerous cities in the Northeast recorded top-ten snowfall amounts, including Hartford, CT (2nd all-time with 22.3"); Worchester, MA (3rd all-time, with 28"); Providence, RI (8th all-time, with 17"); Concord, NH (2nd all time, with 24"), and Boston, MA (6th all-time, with 21.8.") NOAA's latest Storm Summary has a full list of snowfall amounts.

Here are the seven snowstorms of greater than 20" since 1936 for Logan Airport (figures from today's storm are not final yet):

1. February 17-18, 2003 27.5"
2. February 6-7, 1978 27.1"
3. February 24-27, 1969 26.3"
4. March 31-April 1, 1997 25.4"
5. January 22-23, 2005 22.5"
6. February 8-9, 2013 21.8"
7. January 20-21, 1978 21.4"


Figure 1. Not driving anywhere today! Snow buries cars in New Haven, CT at the Premier Hotel & Suites on Long Wharf on February 9, 2013. Image credit: wunderphotographer phototex.

The great storm, dubbed "Nemo", bombed out to a central pressure of 971 mb at 7 am EST Saturday, February 9. This is the type of central pressure one sees in Category 1 hurricanes, and Nemo generated numerous hurricane-force wind gusts along the coast, including a 76 mph gust at Boston's Logan Airport. Significant wave heights of 30' were measured in Massachusetts Bay, and 35.4'at the Cape Ann Buoy 44098, off the east coast of Massachusetts. Here are the hurricane-force wind gusts (in mph) measured so far in Nemo:

Connecticut:
WESTPORT 82
PORTLAND 81

Massachusetts:
CUTTYHUNK 83
HYANNIS 77
BOSTON LOGAN AIRPORT 76
BEDFORD 75
BUZZARDS BAY 74
MARSTONS MILL 74

New Hampshire:
MOUNT WASHINGTON 81

Maine:
BROOKLIN 75

New York:
PLUM ISLAND 75


Figure 2. Satellite image of Winter Storm Nemo taken at 4:31 pm EST Friday, February 8, 2013. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Serious coastal flooding hits Massachusetts
The high winds from the storm drove a damaging storm surge into the coast of Eastern Massachusetts Friday night and Saturday morning. Hardest hit was the coast of Cape Cod Bay southeast of Boston, where major flooding forced residents of low-lying areas to evacuate. A storm surge in excess of four feet inundated roads, damaged coastal buildings, and caused severe beach erosion. Officially, the surge peaked at 4.21' in Boston early Saturday morning. Unofficially, this is fourth greatest storm surge measured in Boston since record keeping began in 1921. Fortunately, the surge hit as low tide was approaching, and the "storm tide"--how how the water gets above the high tide mark, due to the combination of the storm surge and the tide--only reached 2.86' above high tide (MHHW, Mean Higher High Water) in Boston. Nemo's storm tide did not make the top-ten list of high water levels in Boston.

Top unofficial top-five storm surge (not storm tide) events in Boston's history, given as height above normal tide:

4.88' on October 30, 1991 during the "Perfect Storm" Halloween Nor'easter
4.57' on October 29, 2012 during Hurricane Sandy
4.34' on February 6, 1978, during the Blizzard of 1978
4.21' on February 9, 2013, during Winter Storm Nemo
3.69' on February 14, 1940, during the Valentine's Day Nor'easter of 1940

The 1938 hurricane and March 18, 1956 Nor'easter had storm surges less than two feet at Boston. The Christmas Night Storm of 1909 caused severe coastal flooding, but tide gauge records in Boston don't begin until 1921.

The official top ten storm tides since 1921 at the Boston tide gauge, relative to MHHW, are:

1. 4.82' - February 7, 1978 (Blizzard of 1978)
2. 3.92' - January 2, 1987
3. 3.86' - October 30, 1991 (Perfect Storm)
4. 3.76' - January 28, 1979
5. 3.75' - December 12, 1992

Links:
NASA has a nice satellite animation of the storm, spanning a day.

Our news page:
http://www.wunderground.com/news/

Our winter Storm page:
http://www.wunderground.com/winter-storm/nemo-2013.asp

A few impressive 24-hour videos from wunderground webcams:

Bellingham, MA:
http://www.wunderground.com/webcams/steved281/1/video.html?month=02&year=2013&filename=current.mp4

Woonsocket, RI
http://www.wunderground.com/webcams/Traj/1/video.html?month=02&year=2013&filename=current.mp4

Hartford, CT
http://www.wunderground.com/webcams/N1PSJ/1/video.html?month=02&year=2013&filename=current.mp4

Lexington, MA
http://www.wunderground.com/webcams/zach34298/1/video.html?month=02&year=2013&filename=current.mp4

Jeff Masters
Storm Nemo
Storm Nemo
Cars buried in snow. Snow Sculpture!
We Found Nemo!
We Found Nemo!
Although the storm is far from over, it is time for the first session of snowblowing the driveway. Upon opening the garage door, we found Nemo waiting for us!
Blizzard Nemo
Blizzard Nemo
Heavy snow here in Massachusetts. Crazy winds that are howling like a hurricane. Heading for 2 feet of snow as we speak. Totally wild here.

Winter Weather

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Reader Comments

Quoting Neapolitan:
Looks like the fieldhouse, actually: Google Earth Street View

Thanks, I was just trying to think of the first thing that would be at a football/baseball field.
For sure. our second long-track ef2-3+ storm already, and it's only february.
if it keeps up like this we're in for a wild spring.

Quoting washingtonian115:
Thank you TWA13 and hurricaneDean07.I was caught of guard of how server this outbreak would be.This certainly isn't no 2012 part two..
Talk about a wild weekend.Two blizzards and a tornado outbreak.
The storm actually looks like it may have just cycled a little, it weakened a bit on one scan and I though it was finally going to give up, but it's stronger again on the latest scan.
A video from a different view, and sans the running commentary.

Quoting evilpenguinshan:
For sure. our second long-track ef2-3+ storm already, and it's only february.
if it keeps up like this we're in for a wild spring.

Thats if we have continued clashes of cold and warm air.Something that was absent during the 2012 spring season.
Who's in charge here?!


MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0146
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0623 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

AREAS AFFECTED...SERN MS AND SRN AL

CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 33...34...

VALID 110023Z - 110200Z

THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 33...34...CONTINUES.

SUMMARY...THE GREATEST SUPERCELL SIGNIFICANT TORNADO THREAT WILL
SEEMINGLY BE PRESENT IN A WEST TO EAST CORRIDOR AS QUASI-DISCRETE
POTENTIALLY TORNADIC SUPERCELLS TRAIN EWD ACROSS SERN MS INTO SRN
AL.

DISCUSSION...LATEST RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS SEVERAL DISCRETE UPDRAFTS
/SUPERCELLS/ MOVING ENEWD ACROSS SERN MS AND SRN AL. THE 00Z/11 LIX
RAOB DISPLAYED A LARGE LOOPING HODOGRAPH /EFFECTIVE SRH 400 M2/S2/
WITHIN A MOISTURE RICH ENVIRONMENT /14.6 G/KG MEAN MIXING RATIO/.
ALTHOUGH BUOYANCY IS LOWER WITH EWD EXTENT OVER PORTIONS OF SERN
AL...SOME ADDITIONAL RECOVERY IS EXPECTED PRIOR TO THE STORMS MOVING
INTO THIS REGION. NONETHELESS...THE PRIMARY TORNADO RISK WILL BE
FARTHER WEST WHERE SUPERCELLS WILL TRAIN EWD. AS SUCH...A
CONTINUATION OF AN ISOLD SIGTOR THREAT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE OVER
THE NEXT HOUR OR TWO.

..SMITH.. 02/11/2013
B5 has been the big one but there are many more that are spinning as well.


BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
626 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHWESTERN BUTLER COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
CENTRAL CONECUH COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
CENTRAL MONROE COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 730 PM CST

* AT 623 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
TORNADO WAS LOCATED 11 MILES SOUTHEAST OF MONROEVILLE...OR 6 MILES
NORTHEAST OF REPTON...MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
MCKENZIE... I65 AND CR 7... I65 AND AL 106...
GEORGIANA... I65 AND US 84... I65 AND CR 29...
I65 AND AL 83... EVERGREEN...

THIS INCLUDES INTERSTATE 65 BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 90 AND 115.
Back to back confirmed tornadoes.

Donut hole is back. Still likely producing a significant tornado.

The freezing rain is really making driving difficult here. Walking back from work I saw 3 different accidents. Actually to say I walked from work isn't accurate. I pretty much skated and slid the whole way. Walking was almost impossible. Pure ice on the roads and sidewalk.

From ABC news

Emergency officials say an apparent tornado has caused significant damage in Hattiesburg, Miss., after passing along a main road.

Forrest County Fire Coordinator Chip Brown says there is major damage in Hattiesburg and Petal, including on the campus of the University of Southern Mississippi. He couldn't confirm injuries.

He said the damage was still being evaluated, but that the storm passed along a main Hattiesburg thoroughfare.

National Weather Service meteorologist Joanne Culin says there have also been reports of injuries in Marion County.

Nasty weather has settled in on much of Louisiana and Mississippi, including tornado or flash flood watches.

The National Weather Service says bad weather is likely to stretch into Fat Tuesday in southeast Louisiana. Jefferson Parish has canceled a Monday night parade.
With destruction reported at both Oak Grove High School and the USM campus (where at least one of the school's 100-year-old buildings suffered major damage), the tornado path length was at least four miles (assuming a continuous ground track), and a quick glance at a map shows that the storm went through some very populated and built-up areas of the city.

Here's hoping for the best.
That's quite a line of warnings.

TA 13,is todays severe event surpassed what was expected by SPC?
Back to back tornadoes. Not good for those in area.

Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
TX 13,is todays severe event surpassed what was expected by SPC?

No. The Storm Prediction Center has had this event nailed this 12z this morning (link). Hatched region (hatched meaning possibility of EF2+ tornadoes) was added in the following outlook.

This is about what to expect with a 10% hatched tornado probability.
Quoting Neapolitan:
With destruction reported at both Oak Grove High School and the USM campus (where at least one of the school's 100-year-old buildings suffered major damage), the tornado path length was at least four miles (assuming a continuous ground track), and a quick glance at a map shows that the storm went through some very populated and built-up areas of the city.

Here's hoping for the best.


@spann James Spann
USM Alumni house in Hattiesburg%u2026 via WDAM-TV
On velocity Ovett storm has overtaken the old Hatties storm.


Ovett left.
Old Hatties storm right.
Training couplets.


USTornadoes U.S. Tornadoes
Hattiesburg tornado via phi17
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
640 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHEASTERN CHOCTAW COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTHWESTERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTHWESTERN WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 730 PM CST

* AT 637 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION AND
LIKELY PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED 12 MILES SOUTHEAST OF
WAYNESBORO...OR 5 MILES NORTHEAST OF BUCKATUNNA...MOVING NORTHEAST
AT 45 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
SILAS... GROVE HILL... COFFEEVILLE...
MILLRY...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW. FOR YOUR PROTECTION MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE
LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING.

TORNADOES ARE DIFFICULT TO SEE AND CONFIRM AT NIGHT. TAKE COVER NOW.
More streamer showers have developed in Alabama. Watch for an additional spinner or two to develop from here before the instability drops off too much.

Hattiesburg supercell has now entered Alabama.
Vorticity version of the radar loop I posted earlier. Looks like a couplet has started to develop.

Quoting Neapolitan:
With destruction reported at both Oak Grove High School and the USM campus (where at least one of the school's 100-year-old buildings suffered major damage), the tornado path length was at least four miles (assuming a continuous ground track), and a quick glance at a map shows that the storm went through some very populated and built-up areas of the city.

Here's hoping for the best.


Oh, man...
Hope people in Millry, Alabama are taking cover. Very long tracked, violent tornado nearing the town.
Millry, AL is about to take a direct hit.

1033. etxwx
From AP Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:28 PM CST Updated: Feb 10, 2013 6:39 PM CST
NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Emergency officials say an apparent tornado has caused significant damage in Hattiesburg, Miss., after passing along a main road.

Forrest County Fire Coordinator Chip Brown says there is major damage in Hattiesburg and Petal, including on the campus of the University of Southern Mississippi. He couldn't confirm injuries.

He said the damage was still being evaluated, but that the storm passed along a main Hattiesburg thoroughfare.

National Weather Service meteorologist Joanne Culin says there have also been reports of injuries in Marion County.

Nasty weather has settled in on much of Louisiana and Mississippi, including tornado or flash flood watches.

The National Weather Service says bad weather is likely to stretch into Fat Tuesday in southeast Louisiana. Jefferson Parish has canceled a Monday night parade.
Take shelter, Millry!

Oh no!
Waynesboro, MS just had a tornado south of them. The second long tracker following might hit them.

I think the old Hattiesburg storm remains the stronger of the two, it's showing the doughnut hole again and still strong velocity signature.
Please be taking Shelter Millry, tornado on top of you. BTW, I got GR2Analyst today.
No way, it went straight over Millry!

1040. etxwx
Damage in MS.. source WDAM
Looks like the makings of a debris ball



Just east of Millry
It's pass Millry now.


Hopefully everybody in Millry alright... strong tornado with BWER showing up went over the town.

Quoting WDEmobmet:
Looks like the makings of a debris ball


I hate to say it, but it's probably pieces of the town of Millry. The doughnut hole went right over it.
1045. Thrawst
This is exactly why I want to become a meteorologist when I grow up. If you saw that picture I just posted, those homes, along with thousands of other buildings that sustained very heavy damage had people in them. Those people need warnings in advance for these incoming tornadoes. Many people have been injured, according to reports. Being a storm chaser does nothing but do everyone good to the public as they are reliable sources that are in the field and can relay reports as soon as they see it with their eyeballs. These forces of nature are nothing to play with... and if anyone believes that weather is not an interesting thing to study in college, then I do not know what is. I think people are now starting to realize the importance of reporters in meteorology, and I have certainly realized it myself. Never regretted having the passion of meteorology in my blood, and this just affirms it even more.
WOW

8PM SPC outlook holds the 10% hatched tornado probs:

Wow, it lost the doughnut hole and took on the wrapping up hook look:

1049. etxwx
More from MS via WDAM...

Instability is dropping. Probably won't get any/many new severe storms.

Quoting TomTaylor:
Not sure what makes you say that, ECMWF and GFS both show blast of arctic air coming for Florida. 12z ECMWF looks the coldest so far.



Well I was talking about the 7 day period. Yeah it was a little confusing the way I worded it, but the ECMWF initially holds off the cold air for a while with upper disturbances riding the front before a final plunge of cold air next week, that's the one you're speaking of I'm sure.
1052. etxwx
MS tornado damage; source WDAM
poor Millry, bout to get hit again.

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
711 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EASTERN WAYNE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI...
SOUTHERN CHOCTAW COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTHWESTERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTHERN WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 800 PM CST

* AT 705 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION AND
LIKELY PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED 6 MILES SOUTH OF
WAYNESBORO...OR NEAR CLARA...MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH. TAKE COVER
IMMEDIATELY...RADAR SHOWS STRONG SIGNS OF A LARGE TORNADO.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
WAYNESBORO... CLARA... BUCKATUNNA...
SILAS... COFFEEVILLE... MILLRY...
This Hattiesburg cell have been going for 3 hours now... and to make it worse, there's another tornado behind it.

The trailing storm heading for Millry is now the stronger of the two, original Hattiesburg storm is weakening, possibly for good. I think it'll pass north of Millry.
Possible significant tornado heading for Denham, MS
Incredible stuff going on tonight. It caught me off guard some, I wasn't expecting to see April/May super cells on a February evening!

These things just keep passing right over each other!
Quoting 1900hurricane:
These things just keep passing right over each other!


As long as there's no one under them.
Starting to fill in on the map with respect to the storms.

Quoting Jedkins01:
Incredible stuff going on tonight. It caught me off guard some, I wasn't expecting to see April/May super cells on a February evening!

These are your more typical Dixie Ally low top supercells. They tend to happen in the winter.
1063. etxwx
Apparent tornado causes significant damage in Mississippi
William M. Welch, USA TODAY
8:03p.m. EST February 10, 2013
An apparent tornado stuck the Hattiesburg, Miss., area causing major damage and injuring at least three people, emergency officials said Sunday.

Forrest County Fire Coordinator Chip said the University of Southern Mississippi campus was among the areas hit by the storm.

According to the Gulfport, Miss., Sun Herald, several businesses and buildings in Hattiesburg were damaged. On the University of Southern Mississippi Campus, the Ogletree Alumi House was severely damaged.

Damage has been reported on the campus along Hardy Street, Lincoln Road and the Oak Grove High School campus on Old Highway 11 in West Hattiesburg, according to the Hattiesburg American. The field house at the high school was reported destroyed, and power was out in parts of the city.

Brett Carr with the state management agency told CNN the injured people were in Marion County. It was not clear how seriously they were hurt.

"Within seconds, everything changed," Sara Lawrence, a resident of Hattiesburg, told CNN.

"I didn't feel like there was much notice. I heard the sirens and everything looked OK outside, so I started making preparations to go into the bathroom. And then, next thing I know, all the lights went out, and it got dark outside," she said.

Just outside Columbia, Miss., Marion County emergency director Aaron Greer said there were injuries in the community of Pickwick. He said one mobile home was destroyed, three other structures have major damage, two or three have minor damage, and emergency workers are still checking three other roads where damage was reported.

Tornado watches and warnings remained in effect Sunday night for parts of Louisiana, southern Mississippi and southwestern Alabama
.

Contributing: Cara Richardson, Hattiesburg American
Tornado over Denham, they better be taking shelter.
This is farther east along a pretty nasty bow echo/squall line. A strong tornado with this is unlikely but a quick spin-up is possible.

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
722 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TALLAHASSEE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHERN COFFEE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 745 PM CST

* AT 721 PM CST...A DEVELOPING TORNADO HAS BEEN DETECTED BY THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEAR BLUFF SPRING...MOVING EAST AT 55 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO WISE
MILL...WILKINSTOWN...JACK...CAMP HUMMING HILLS...LOWRY MILL...
ARCUS...WOODLAND GROVE CHURCH...CHESTNUT GROVE...VICTORIA...MIXONS
CROSSROADS...CLOWERS CROSSROADS...FRISCO...NEW HOPE...EANON...
TABERNACLE...JAVA AND ROETON

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW! LEAVE MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES FOR SAFER STRUCTURES.
MOVE TO A HALLWAY OR CLOSET ON THE LOWEST FLOOR AWAY FROM WINDOWS AND
OUTSIDE WALLS.

&&

LAT...LON 3154 8616 3154 8615 3161 8615 3162 8614
3163 8581 3162 8579 3144 8579 3147 8620
3153 8620
TIME...MOT...LOC 0122Z 275DEG 49KT 3161 8608

$$

15-HARRIGAN



Something is seriously wrong here. Not only is the amount of severe reports for this point in the year crazy, but most importantly placement.

Now tonight's placement of severe weather is more normal for this time of year, but still. In January and February most severe weather normally occurs in the deep south, gulf coast, and Florida. This picture paints a much different story so far though.
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
These are your more typical Dixie Ally low top supercells. They tend to happen in the winter.



I'm not talking about their cloud top height, I'm talking about structure. Of course their cloud top height is shallow, its winter, it always will be relatively more shallow. In the summer the tallest thunderstorms often occur in the deep south and tropics.
Quoting Neapolitan:
A video from a different view, and sans the running commentary.


that tornado is moving fast!
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
730 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTH CENTRAL MONROE COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
WESTERN WILCOX COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
NORTHERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 815 PM CST

* AT 728 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION AND
LIKELY PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED 10 MILES WEST OF GROVE
HILL...OR 9 MILES EAST OF COFFEEVILLE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
YELLOW BLUFF... PINE HILL... THOMASVILLE...
GROVE HILL... FULTON...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO...THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
DAMAGING HAIL AND DESTRUCTIVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.
Does anyone know how much warning time Hattiesburg had before the storm? ...it passed within a quarter mile of my friend's uncle's house.
11 tornado reports today. I'm sure they will find more damage paths once the survey crews go out and investigate the area.
New warning for the old storm. It still has rotation but not as strong as earlier, I doubt that there's a strong tornado on the ground now.

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
730 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTH CENTRAL MONROE COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
WESTERN WILCOX COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
NORTHERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 815 PM CST

* AT 728 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION AND
LIKELY PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED 10 MILES WEST OF GROVE
HILL...OR 9 MILES EAST OF COFFEEVILLE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
YELLOW BLUFF... PINE HILL... THOMASVILLE...
GROVE HILL... FULTON...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IN ADDITION TO THE TORNADO...THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
DAMAGING HAIL AND DESTRUCTIVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST SUNDAY EVENING
FOR SOUTHWESTERN ALABAMA AND SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI.

&&

LAT...LON 3178 8732 3166 8794 3181 8802 3200 8770
3201 8763 3204 8763 3213 8746
TIME...MOT...LOC 0130Z 247DEG 30KT 3175 8792

$$
Quoting Jedkins01:



Something is seriously wrong here. Not only is the amount of severe reports for this point in the year crazy, but most importantly placement.

Now tonight's placement of severe weather is more normal for this time of year, but still. In January and February most severe weather normally occurs in the deep south, gulf coast, and Florida. This picture paints a much different story so far though.

Especially the large concentration over the Ohio Valley. Very atypical to see sever stuff up there this early.
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Especially the large concentration over the Ohio Valley. Very atypical to see sever stuff up there this early.


You think this winter pattern may lead to a very active severe season in the March,April and May period?
1076. beell
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
These are your more typical Dixie Ally low top supercells. They tend to happen in the winter.


Probably would not call cool season supercells with 35-45Kft echo tops "low-topped".

EQL's are AOA 10,000 meters in the stronger cells.
It appears things are finally winding down. Hattiesburg supercell continues to weaken and the Clara supercell is also beginning to weaken.
Wow, what an evening of tracking! Really making me look forward to tracking the outbreaks of spring.

I would say flash flooding is probably the biggest threat from here, these storms are training badly, lots of water being put down.
we had thunder and lightning here at calhoun Ga. at 50 degrees this afternnon. The wind has been very strong and gusty here all day. I knew there had to be something happening south of us.
Quoting HurrikanEB:
Does anyone know how much warning time Hattiesburg had before the storm? ...it passed within a quarter mile of my friend's uncle's house.

Should have been pretty good. Was a tornado on the ground for several miles before hitting Hattiesburg. And I think the storm was at least a marginal supercell back into Louisiana.
Quoting beell:


Probably would not call cool season supercells with 35-45Kft echo tops "low-topped".

EQL's are AOA 10,000 meters in the stronger cells.
Only time I saw tops of 45k were during times debris were in the air. They quickly went down to 30-35k. Plus April/March type storms are in the 45-55k range. Edit:
Storm that went over Winchester has just acquired tops of 44k so pretty good.
Just the two supercells left now.

Quoting Ameister12:
It appears things are finally winding down. Hattiesburg supercell continues to weaken and the Clara supercell is also beginning to weaken.

Well, not totally done yet. There is a possible tornado about to go into the town of Cullomburg, but not as strong as the ones earlier.
1084. beell
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Only time I saw tops of 45k were during times debris were in the air. They quickly went down to 30-35k. Plus April/March type storms are in the 45-55k range.


Ok, we have different definitions. Warm season will naturally have higher tops as a rule-a thicker troposphere. I'd put low-tops at around 5-6,000 meters or somewhere around the 500mb level.



Amazing video of the Hattiesburg from the BaseHunters chase team.

Link
New warning on the far eastern storm within the squall line:

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
743 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TALLAHASSEE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EASTERN COFFEE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...
SOUTHWESTERN DALE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 815 PM CST

* AT 739 PM CST...A DEVELOPING TORNADO HAS BEEN DETECTED BY THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE 7 MILES NORTH OF NEW BROCKTON...OR NEAR
WOODLAND GROVE CHURCH...MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
ENTERPRISE...LEVEL PLAINS...FORT RUCKER...DALEVILLE AND NEWTON

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW! LEAVE MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES FOR SAFER STRUCTURES.
MOVE TO A HALLWAY OR CLOSET ON THE LOWEST FLOOR AWAY FROM WINDOWS AND
OUTSIDE WALLS.

&&

LAT...LON 3159 8597 3152 8580 3139 8555 3127 8562
3127 8566 3123 8569 3121 8569 3120 8571
3120 8581 3126 8588 3147 8607
TIME...MOT...LOC 0141Z 301DEG 35KT 3146 8593

$$

15-HARRIGAN
WFUS54 KMOB 110145
TORMOB
ALC023-025-129-110230-
/O.NEW.KMOB.TO.W.0015.130211T0145Z-130211T0230Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
745 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTH CENTRAL CHOCTAW COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTHERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTH CENTRAL WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 830 PM CST

* AT 742 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION AND
LIKELY PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED 17 MILES NORTH OF CHATOM...
OR 5 MILES SOUTHEAST OF SILAS...MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
THOMASVILLE... FULTON... COFFEEVILLE...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST SUNDAY EVENING
FOR SOUTHWESTERN ALABAMA AND SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI.

&&

LAT...LON 3199 8771 3174 8762 3164 8826 3178 8832
TIME...MOT...LOC 0146Z 252DEG 37KT 3173 8821

$$

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TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
745 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTH CENTRAL CHOCTAW COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTHERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
NORTH CENTRAL WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 830 PM CST

* AT 742 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION AND
LIKELY PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED 17 MILES NORTH OF CHATOM...
OR 5 MILES SOUTHEAST OF SILAS...MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
THOMASVILLE... FULTON... COFFEEVILLE...
TWC says they may start naming tornado
New warning on the storm behind the Hattiesburg storm
1092. Thrawst
reedtimmerTVN Reed Timmer
Confirmed tornado heading for Millry, Coffeeville, Grove Hill, Fulton, Thomasville, AL! #alwx #tornado pic.twitter.com/2SMS4tgE

@terra4thetide Terra
Red Cross in Hattiesburg


damage in Lakeshore Subdivision near Oak Grove Road in Hattiesburg
Quoting Tazmanian:
TWC says they may start naming tornado

Sorry but that is just very wrong at this time. You should be ashamed of saying that.

Tornado Warning in Mobile - Pensacola

Active for next 12 minutesLocation: Choctaw; Clarke; Washington

Posted 16 minutes ago – National Weather Service

A Tornado Warning remains in effect until 8:00 pm CST for West Central Clarke, northern Washington and Southern Choctaw counties. At 7:28 pm CST, a severe thunderstorm with strong rotation and likely producing a tornado was located 14 miles east of Waynesboro, or 6 miles west of Millry, moving east at 40 mph.

Locations impacted include: Silas. Coffeeville. Millry.

Recommended actions


Take cover now. For Your Protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building.

A Tornado Watch remains in effect until 11:00 pm CST Sunday evening for Southwestern Alabama and Southeast Mississippi.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Sorry but that is just very wrong at this time. You should be ashamed of saying that.

I agree. It's an absolutely idiotic thing to say! And how would they be able to name every single tornado!? So stupid...
Quoting AussieStorm:

Sorry but that is just very wrong at this time. You should be ashamed of saying that.

I 100% agree
Quoting Ameister12:

I agree. It's an absolutely idiotic thing to say! And how would they be able to name every single tornado!? So stupid...


Overreacting...much?
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
758 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

ALC023-025-129-110230-
/O.CON.KMOB.SV.W.0016.000000T0000Z-130211T0230Z/
CHOCTAW AL-WASHINGTON AL-CLARKE AL-
758 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 830 PM CST
FOR CENTRAL CLARKE...NORTHERN WASHINGTON AND EXTREME SOUTH CENTRAL
CHOCTAW COUNTIES...

AT 755 PM CST...A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
QUARTER SIZE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS OVER 60 MPH WERE LOCATED ALONG A
LINE EXTENDING FROM 17 MILES NORTHEAST OF CHATOM TO 9 MILES NORTH OF
CHATOM TO 11 MILES SOUTHEAST OF WAYNESBORO...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
JACKSON... GROVE HILL... WAGARVILLE...
SAINT STEPHENS... MILLRY... LEROY...
CHATOM...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THESE ARE DANGEROUS STORMS. PREPARE FOR DESTRUCTIVE HAIL AND DAMAGING
WINDS. PEOPLE OUTSIDE SHOULD MOVE INSIDE A STRONG BUILDING BUT AWAY
FROM WINDOWS.
taz ya should know better than to say that at this time

pls leave taz alone iam sure it was a mistake not thinking straight thats all
Quoting Bellringer10:


Overreacting...much?

I don't think I'm overreacting at all.
Quoting Ameister12:

I don't think I'm overreacting at all. How could you name tornadoes? There are 1000 of them each year.


Sarcasm exist, and get used to it.
The Weather Channel ‏@weatherchannel

Injuries reported in Denham, MS from a tornado that struck at 7:18pm CST. #mswx
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
800 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

ALC023-025-110230-
/O.CON.KMOB.TO.W.0015.000000T0000Z-130211T0230Z/
CHOCTAW AL-CLARKE AL-
800 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 830 PM CST FOR NORTHERN
CLARKE AND SOUTHEASTERN CHOCTAW COUNTIES...

AT 755 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION AND LIKELY
PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED 20 MILES WEST OF GROVE HILL...OR
NEAR COFFEEVILLE...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
THOMASVILLE... FULTON... COFFEEVILLE...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW. FOR YOUR PROTECTION MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE
LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING.
Quoting Bellringer10:


Sarcasm exist, and get used to it.

Kinda hard to tell if you're being sarcastic when it's typed... No need to be a jerk.
Quoting Bellringer10:


Sarcasm exist, and get used to it.


you don't give up right?
Chase video from John Sibley, a storm chaser who was in Hattiesburg during this tornado.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGLSSUHrOeE
chill out everyone no need to get all wound up
Chat just went to dust for me
Quoting ScottLincoln:

Should have been pretty good. Was a tornado on the ground for several miles before hitting Hattiesburg. And I think the storm was at least a marginal supercell back into Louisiana.


Yeah, i ended up finding the statement they issued about 15 minutes prior.. Thank you.
Quoting Doppler22:
Chat just went to dust for me


I tried to go back in but it does not let me...
Incredible tornado footage from John Sibley

Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I tried to go back in but it does not let me...
Same here. I can't go into chat room.
Looks like the extreme southeastern U.S. is in for quite a cold shot, according to the CPC.

Quoting Bluestorm5:
Chase video from John Sibley, a storm chaser who was in Hattiesburg during this tornado.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGLSSUHrOeE

Is John Sibley a Hattiesburg, Forrest County, or Mississippi state officer?
Let's hope so, otherwise he only broke just a few laws in the pursuit of his tornado.
//begin rant

So, the majority of the items on weather.com are still talking about Nemo, and the next blizzard. Not really paying attention to the severe weather outbreak in Mississippi and Alabama. Lost more respect for TWC.

On the TV, there are more commercials playing than the minutes they have spent on the tornadoes.

And then the shows. Reef Wranglers? Discovery had a thing on this a couple of years ago, they got rid of it because it is such a boring job. At least have shows that are much more pertaining to the weather then "yeah, we pay attention to the forecast." Might as well come video my place and make a show about a high-school student following weather events.

//end rant
In 2 minutes, we will only have 1 tornado warning, thank goodness.
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Same here. I can't go into chat room.


and the silliest thing it says when I try "Unknown error"
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


you don't give up right?


Problem officer?

Quoting wxchaser97:
In 2 minutes, we will only have 1 tornado warning, thank goodness.


yeah at one moment I got to see this huge blood red area...

Quoting wxchaser97:
In 2 minutes, we will only have 1 tornado warning, thank goodness.

No more tornado warning! Yay! :D
Quoting wxchaser97:
In 2 minutes, we will only have 1 tornado warning, thank goodness.


No warnings right now, woot!
Quoting wxchaser97:
In 2 minutes, we will only have 1 tornado warning, thank goodness.

Actually now, no tornado warnings! Just a few severe thunderstorm warnings, but with the weak rotation message on one.
Quoting Astrometeor:
//begin rant

So, the majority of the items on weather.com are still talking about Nemo, and the next blizzard. Not really paying attention to the severe weather outbreak in Mississippi and Alabama. Lost more respect for TWC.

Do you happen to have a local affiliate that carries Weather Nation? They sometimes do better (and you dont have to worry about them breaking in to reality TV or irrelevant programming).
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


and the silliest thing it says when I try "Unknown error"
Same here. I'm getting "Unknown error"
Quoting Ameister12:
Incredible tornado footage from John Sibley



Incredible what emotions someone must go through upon witnessing such carnage and the fact that 'the destroyer' is just up ahead on the horizon ... Thanks for the post.
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Same here. I'm getting "Unknown error"

same
no one is in the chat now...
...and everyone left... after there were over 15 people in less than half hour
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
...and everyone left... after there were over 15 people in less than half hour

Probably has something to do with the fact that nobody can enter chat...
Kind of hard to believe that on a winter day we burned through 12 pages of 50 posts per page in one day. Truly amazing. Almost as if something happened, lol.

Quoting ScottLincoln:

Do you happen to have a local affiliate that carries Weather Nation? They sometimes do better (and you dont have to worry about them breaking in to reality TV or irrelevant programming).


I shall see, I have never heard of Weather Nation, but thanks for mentioning it though.
No more tornado warnings.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Probably has something to do with the fact that nobody can enter chat...


Cody! You're back! woot, okay excitement over guys, move along now, next zoo attraction please. ;)
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
no one is in the chat now...

You don't say!

Still no damage reports from Millry, I kinda want to know what actually happened there.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Probably has something to do with the fact that nobody can enter chat...


Cody, what did you do to the chat?
Quoting wxchaser97:

You don't say!

Still no damage reports from Millry, I kinda want to know what actually happened there.

seriously... they were hit like 5 times and no reports at all? I wonder if thats a good thing or a bad thing
Quoting wxchaser97:

You don't say!

Still no damage reports from Millry, I kinda want to know what actually happened there.


what do you mean I don't say?
Quoting wxchaser97:

You don't say!

Still no damage reports from Millry, I kinda want to know what actually happened there.


I want to know too, just googled them, everything is an hour and a half old. Not good to me. Might have to wait for morning.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


what do you mean I don't say?

“You Don’t Say?” is a rage comic face based on a contour drawing of Nicolas Cage that is that is used as a sarcastic response to an obvious observation or statement."

Quoting Doppler22:

seriously... they were hit like 5 times and no reports at all? I wonder if thats a good thing or a bad thing

Communication could be totally lost from that area, not enough light to make a good report, etc... We won't know until tomorrow morning probably.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


what do you mean I don't say?


As in it is plainly obvious what happened with chat.

Quoting Doppler22:

seriously... they were hit like 5 times and no reports at all? I wonder if thats a good thing or a bad thing


Most likely very bad to not hear anything from them. Especially since what has happened to our knowledge tonight.

Edit: Isaac! Stop posting right before me! argh....
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


Cody, what did you do to the chat?

I didn't do anything to it, what did you do to it?
Quoting wxchaser97:

“You Don’t Say?” is a rage comic face based on a contour drawing of Nicolas Cage that is that is used as a sarcastic response to an obvious observation or statement."


Communication could be totally lost from that area, not enough light to make a good report, etc... We won't know until tomorrow morning probably.

Hopefully the town was spared all 5 times
Quoting wxchaser97:

You don't say!

Still no damage reports from Millry, I kinda want to know what actually happened there.

We probably won't know until morning.
I don't see anything on Twitter from Millry, AL. Hopefully that town is okay.
Quoting Ameister12:

We probably won't know until morning.

Yup, I even said that afterward in post 1143.
I'm wondering if maybe the tornado may have moved just north of Millry. Hopefully that's the case.
Judging by a countless number of damage pictures, my best guess is that the Hattiesburg, Mississippi tornado was a high-end EF3. This will not be confirmed until tomorrow evening though.
WUUS52 KTAE 110237
SVRTAE
ALC067-069-GAC061-099-110315-
/O.NEW.KTAE.SV.W.0018.130211T0237Z-130211T0315Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
837 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TALLAHASSEE HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
EASTERN HENRY COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...
NORTHERN HOUSTON COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...
SOUTHERN CLAY COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST GEORGIA...
EARLY COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST GEORGIA...

* UNTIL 915 PM CST/1015 PM EST/

* AT 935 PM EST/835 PM CST/...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS
DETECTED A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS IN
EXCESS OF 60 MPH. REPORTS OF NUMEROUS TREES DOWN AND MEASURED WINDS
NEAR 60 MPH HAVE BEEN RELAYED TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
THESE
STORMS WERE LOCATED ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM FORT GAINES TO
COWARTS...OR ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM PECAN TO WILSON MILL...AND
MOVING EAST AT 40 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
ASHFORD...COLUMBIA AND BLAKELY

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

DOPPLER RADAR HAS INDICATED SOME WEAK ROTATION WITHIN THIS STORM. IF
A TORNADO IS SPOTTED...ACT QUICKLY AND MOVE TO A PLACE OF SAFETY.

&&

LAT...LON 3164 8495 3162 8494 3162 8482 3157 8482
3156 8480 3154 8482 3149 8482 3150 8480
3145 8479 3130 8488 3125 8492 3107 8493
3107 8503 3121 8546 3122 8547 3166 8514
TIME...MOT...LOC 0236Z 278DEG 34KT 3167 8500 3117 8531

$$

15-HARRIGAN
More pictures coming out of Hattiesburg.
I've looked through google and have seen nothing on Millry, Alabama... idk y I just have a sick feeling and I want to know they're ok
URGENT:

University of Southern Mississippi has declared a state of emergency and has asked students to stay off campus. University will be closed tomorrow.
Quoting Astrometeor:
URGENT:

University of Southern Mississippi has declared a state of emergency and has asked students to stay off campus. University will be closed tomorrow.

I'm assuming the schools will be closed too
Re: #1118 -- that's quite a change from what they were showing us a week or less ago, when they had so much of the country predicted for warmer than normal. I hope they're wrong (this time!) about such a severe level of cold!

If we are in for such a cold outbreak, I'm assuming the NAO has something to do with it. A bit of enlightenment here would be much appreciated!

T.I.A.
Quoting beell:


Ok, we have different definitions. Warm season will naturally have higher tops as a rule-a thicker troposphere. I'd put low-tops at around 5-6,000 meters or somewhere around the 500mb level.





I think you're right, as far as I know, the 500 mb level is considered low topped convection by the NWS.

Obviously the definition varies depending on location and season. A 30,000 ft topped cell in Canada is really tall, in Central Florida or the southern plains and deep south that's nothing more than a typical spring or summer big thunderstorm.

However, 30,000 ft tall in February is very tall, it's not "low topped" by any means.


Total reports for today, most likely going to go up some
Quoting SteveDa1:
Looks like the extreme southeastern U.S. is in for quite a cold shot, according to the CPC.



Not really looking forward to it, by Mid February I'm ready for some warming and thunderstorm action. Local MET's are saying low to mid 50's for highs next weekend and 20's for lows, yuck, lol.


At least we should see plenty of beneficial rain the next few days.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I didn't do anything to it, what did you do to it?


nothing... I just had a feeling you did
Have scoured the internet for Millry info; only to find none. Emergency management warned them to seek shelter immediately saying a large dangerous tornado was imminent and then nothing since. On the upside, no fatalities out of Hattiesburg as of yet.
Quoting wxchaser97:

You don't say!

Still no damage reports from Millry, I kinda want to know what actually happened there.


"You don't say" that wording threw me off... did really know what you meant Isaac. geez!
In other news, I see some people are seeing beautiful auroras. I am jealous, I have only seen the aurora once.

Spaceweather



Then we have that asteroid coming within the Geo-Synch Orbit on February 15. Not going to hit, but hopefully it isn't attracted to us because of global-warming. (inside joke if anyone remembers what CNN had to say on that).
1167. aquak9
hey Jed- I'm looking at a low of 42º next Sunday...no twenties, and I'm up in Jax. What gives?
Quoting Astrometeor:
In other news, I see some people are seeing beautiful auroras. I am jealous, I have only seen the aurora once.

Spaceweather



Then we have that asteroid coming within the Geo-Synch Orbit on February 15. Not going to hit, but hopefully it isn't attracted to us because of global-warming. (inside joke if anyone remembers what CNN had to say on that).

I've only seen it once but I don't remember it because I was soo young
MY BLOG ON BLIZZARD NEMO


check it out...no fees for it.
Quoting aquak9:
hey Jed- I'm looking at a low of 42 next Sunday...no twenties, and I'm up in Jax. What gives?



Well I guess it all depends on how confident the forecaster is of the event. Apparently the Tallahassee forecasters are pretty confident, the NWS isn't much different, 57 for a high Saturday, a low of 31 Saturday night, Sunday a high of 54.

Maybe they forecasters are a bit more conservative about it over there so far. I do know that Tallahassee is typically about 5 degrees colder at night or so than Jacksonville. However, if the models verify there will be a freeze down well into the peninsula as well.

Personally I'm not going to buy it being that cold until we see some model agreement on it over the next few days.

It would be weird to have the coldest winter weather arrive in February, but then again since when is anything normal anymore? lol
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
check it out...no fees for it.


I guess I could, brb, have to comment on this.


More of damage in Hattiesburg, MS
Quoting Jedkins01:


I think you're right, as far as I know, the 500 mb level is considered low topped convection by the NWS.

Obviously the definition varies depending on location and season. A 30,000 ft topped cell in Canada is really tall, in Central Florida or the southern plains and deep south that's nothing more than a typical spring or summer big thunderstorm.

However, 30,000 ft tall in February is very tall, it's not "low topped" by any means.


A blast from the past, just for Jedkins.

From before your time but in familiar surroundings...

May 4, 1978. An usually strong storm system for so late in the season and as far south as Florida brought a powerful squall line and a few discrete super cell thunderstorms ahead of it, as it tore through West Central Florida..

One of these super cells dropped an EF-2 or EF-3 tornado which touched the ground for a short distance in the High Point area of Central Pinellas County, FL. This twister struck the High Point Elementary school during the lunch hour on that day and sadly took three lives there. However, had the students all been in their classrooms instead of the cafeteria (which was not as badly damaged) the death toll could have been much higher. The same tornado was seen by the air traffic controllers at Tampa International Airport a few minutes later, heading in their direction. This caused the control tower to be evacuated but fortunately, the funnel cloud was no longer on the ground when it passed nearby to TIA.

It was reported that the tops of some of the more severe storms in the area on that day reached a height of 62,000 feet, most likely including the super cell which produced the deadly High Point tornado.

I can assure you that the above information is nearly entirely 100% accurate. I remember hearing it reported at the time and also reading about the meteorological details in reports later on. And of course, you are very familiar with that exact area though in a later era. So there you go.
Well everyone... Seeming that the activity has calmed down and i'm getting tired im going to leave. Goodnight and if any of you get any information about Millry, Alabama i'd appreciate it if you message me it. Thanks
I haven't heard any reports from the supercells near Ruth, Meadville and Bude, and the Sanford. I would be surprised if any of them didn't produce a tornado sometime during their life.

Ruth supercell:



Bude/Meadville/McCall Creek supercell


Sanford supercell
Quoting Doppler22:
Well everyone... Seeming that the activity has calmed down and i'm getting tired im going to leave. Goodnight and if any of you get any information about Millry, Alabama i'd appreciate it if you message me it. Thanks


Stay tuned to this twitter feed. Millry, AL
1179. aquak9
thank you for answering the q, Jed.

ya'll take care-
Just watched the video of the interview with Bill Nye for the first time.

I just lost every ounce of respect for him.

Apparently Nemo developed from an African easterly wave. And apparently the gravity of the Earth puts pressure behind the low, making it turn poleward, which is how the system made it to the Northeast.

NO.


@studentprintz The Student Printz
Damage on Hardy Street near campus #Hattiesburg #Tornado. Photo by Jana Edwards
Quoting AussieStorm:


Stay tuned to this twitter feed. Millry, AL
I've been refreshing the feed the last hour or so, but nothing come up except for those asking the same question I am.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Just watched the video of the interview with Bill Nye for the first time.

I just lost every ounce of respect for him.

Apparently Nemo developed from an African easterly wave. And apparently the gravity of the Earth puts pressure behind the low, making it turn poleward, which is how the system made it to the Northeast.

NO.
He also blames asteroids on global warming, if I heard the video right... SMH.
Quoting Bluestorm5:
I've been refreshing the feed the last hour or so, but nothing come up except for those asking the same question I am.

Maybe power and communications has been cut to the area and no information can get out.


@KDRMedia Kendra Reed~KDRMedia
Radar grab from KMOB over Hattiesburg, MS this evening.
We're not done.


791
WFUS54 KMOB 110317
TORMOB
ALC025-129-110400-
/O.NEW.KMOB.TO.W.0016.130211T0317Z-130211T0400Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
917 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
CENTRAL WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 1000 PM CST

* AT 914 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
TORNADO WAS LOCATED 6 MILES EAST OF CHATOM...OR 7 MILES SOUTHWEST
OF SAINT STEPHENS...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
JACKSON... GROVE HILL... WAGARVILLE...
SAINT STEPHENS... LEROY...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST SUNDAY EVENING
FOR SOUTHWESTERN ALABAMA AND SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI.

&&

LAT...LON 3178 8777 3149 8767 3139 8818 3155 8827
TIME...MOT...LOC 0317Z 250DEG 40KT 3151 8812

$$






Awww man, I thought we were done with tornado warnings.

791
WFUS54 KMOB 110317
TORMOB
ALC025-129-110400-
/O.NEW.KMOB.TO.W.0016.130211T0317Z-130211T0400Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
917 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
CENTRAL WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 1000 PM CST

* AT 914 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
TORNADO WAS LOCATED 6 MILES EAST OF CHATOM...OR 7 MILES SOUTHWEST
OF SAINT STEPHENS...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
JACKSON... GROVE HILL... WAGARVILLE...
SAINT STEPHENS... LEROY...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST SUNDAY EVENING
FOR SOUTHWESTERN ALABAMA AND SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI.

&&

LAT...LON 3178 8777 3149 8767 3139 8818 3155 8827
TIME...MOT...LOC 0317Z 250DEG 40KT 3151 8812

$$
Quoting Bluestorm5:
He also blames asteroids on global warming... smh.

I believe that the asteroid stuff is a completely new topic, and one he is accurate with. However, if that is how he actually thinks nor'easters work (and not trying to dumb it down for the general public, which he failed horribly at if he was trying to do), then Bill Nye needs to stay far away from the world of meteorology.
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
917 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
CENTRAL WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 1000 PM CST

* AT 914 PM CST...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
TORNADO WAS LOCATED 6 MILES EAST OF CHATOM...OR 7 MILES SOUTHWEST
OF SAINT STEPHENS...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
JACKSON... GROVE HILL... WAGARVILLE...
SAINT STEPHENS... LEROY...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1100 PM CST SUNDAY EVENING
FOR SOUTHWESTERN ALABAMA AND SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI.

&&

LAT...LON 3178 8777 3149 8767 3139 8818 3155 8827
TIME...MOT...LOC 0317Z 250DEG 40KT 3151 8812

$$
Quoting Bluestorm5:
I've been refreshing the feed the last hour or so, but nothing come up except for those asking the same question I am.
how big is the town maybe the whole place is gone
Quoting 1900hurricane:

I believe that the asteroid stuff is a completely new topic, and one he is accurate with. However, if that is how he actually thinks nor'easters work (and not trying to dumb it down for the general public, which he failed horribly at if he was trying to do), then Bill Nye needs to stay far away from the world of meteorology.
Yes, he failed horribly at discussing winter storms. Just wow.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
how big is the town maybe the whole place is gone


Pop: 615

Land area: 7.7 square miles
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
how big is the town maybe the whole place is gone
More like village... 615 people lives in Millry, AL.



Ogletree House on campus destroyed #Hattiesburg





University reports no injuries on campus, dorms have power.

Damage confirmed to Jazz Station, Mannoni Performing Arts Center, Ogletree Alumni House, and vacant dorm Elam Arms.

No word on library, we're assuming it's ok. Damage seems to be on the other side of campus.

USM VP of Student Affairs Dr. Joe Paul confirms that classes will "definitely" resume as scheduled Wednesday

All from
The Student Printz
@studentprintz
Student newspaper for the University of Southern Mississippi
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
how big is the town maybe the whole place is gone

It is a small town, but I don't think the tornado was that strong.

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
841 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
NORTHWESTERN BUTLER COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
MONROE COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
SOUTHERN WILCOX COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA...
EAST CENTRAL GREENE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI...
EXTREME NORTH CENTRAL BALDWIN COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
CLARKE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...
CENTRAL WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 945 PM CST

* AT 837 PM CST...A LINE OF OF STRONG TO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS
CAPABLE OF PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS OVER 60 MPH WAS LOCATED
FROM 9 MILES EAST OF THOMASVILLE TO 13 MILES NORTHEAST OF
LEAKESVILLE...MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
PETERMAN... YELLOW BLUFF... PINE APPLE...
OAK HILL... CAMDEN... WHATLEY...
JACKSON... GROVE HILL... FULTON...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
American households could save more than $1,000 a year by boosting energy efficiency at home and on the road over the next two decades, according to a new analysis from the Alliance Commission on National Energy Efficiency Policy.

The commission's report, Energy 2030, outlines a broad plan to double U.S. energy productivity - that is, to get twice the economic mileage for the same amount of energy use - by 2030. The commission,co-chaired by Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) and National Grid US executive Tom King, looked at not only households but also business and government, estimating that with an investment of $166 billion in more efficient buildings, vehicles and other sources of energy waste, the United States could add 1.3 million jobs and save $327 billion by 2030.


http://www.greatenergychallengeblog.com/2013/02/0 7/report-energy-savings-could-pay-off-americas-cre dit-cards/
1199. nymore
Quoting AussieStorm:
Does anyone need a laugh, Watch this....

Bill Nye explains the science of storms
Bill Nye %u201CThe Science Guy%u201D joins MSNBC%u2019s Craig Melvin to talk about how climate change contributed to this weekend%u2019s blizzard in the Northeast.
His eyebrows look like is a Klingon. I think he may of had a stroke and someone should really check on him. The fact that he is CEO in charge of grant money is disturbing at best.

Remember what I told you last night Aussie, If it was a commodity we would corner the market.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
how big is the town maybe the whole place is gone

From Wiki.

Millry is a town in Washington County, Alabama, United States. The population was 615 at the 2000 census.
Strong rotation with that tornado warned storm. Guess we're not done with tornadoes just yet.



Quoting nymore:
His eyebrows look like is a Klingon. I think he may of had a stroke and someone should really check on him. The fact that he is CEO in charge of grant money is disturbing at beat.

Remember what I told you last night Aussie, If it was a commodity we would corner the market.


What he said isn't true. Those who discover Near Earth Asteroids discover them for fun. Grant money has nothing to do with it. Anyone with a decent telescope and camera can do it, thousands of people do. Grant money pfffft.
Quoting Astrometeor:


Pop: 615

Land area: 7.7 square miles
big tornado 3 mile wide take em right out how wide was the storm
Quoting Bluestorm5:
More like village... 615 people lives in Millry, AL.




one bad thing I see, it's surrounded by thick forest. They might not of see it coming.

Google Street view.
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
how big is the town maybe the whole place is gone


pop. 615 ... I sure hope not..... Wiki
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
big tornado 3 mile wide take em right out how wide was the storm

It is also possible the tornado went just north of Millry or somehow wasn't on the ground.
1207. nymore
Quoting Astrometeor:


What he said isn't true. Those who discover Near Earth Asteroids discover them for fun. Grant money has nothing to do with it. Anyone with a decent telescope and camera can do it, thousands of people do. Grant money pfffft.
It is not just amateurs looking for them. Professionals also look for them.
Nasa for example
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1209. etxwx
Updated: Feb 10, 2013 8:38 PM CST - report from WDAM, Channel 7
By HOLBROOK MOHR
Associated Press

HATTIESBURG, Miss. (AP) - A tornado tore through Hattiesburg on Sunday as part of a wave of severe storms that downed trees, damaged buildings and injured at least three people.

The twister traveled down 1 of Hattiesburg's main streets and mangled homes, commercial buildings and several structures on the campus of the University of Southern Mississippi. The state emergency management agency said it was only aware of 3 injuries in the state, all in a county to the west of Hattiesburg.

Mississippi Emergency Management Agency spokesman Greg Flynn said it appears that a single tornado caused the damage in three counties.

On the campus of the university, trees were snapped in half around the heavily damaged Alumni House where part of the roof was ripped away. Windows in a nearby building were blown out, and heavy equipment worked to clear streets nearby in a heavy rain after the worst of the weather had passed.

The university released a statement saying no one was hurt but that it was under a state of emergency, anyone away from campus should stay away until further notice.

East of campus, 47-year-old Cindy Bullock was at home with her husband and dog, a terrier mix named Vinnie, when she heard the tornado coming. They ran to a hallway and covered their heads. It wasn't long before the windows in the kitchen and bedroom exploded. The storm stripped all the shingles off the roof and left holes in it, while knocking over a large pine tree in the yard.

After dark, the Bullocks were trying to arrange their stuff inside so it wouldn't get wet from the dripping water.

"I just looked out the window and I heard the rumbling. It sounded like a train. We ran to the hall, and the kitchen windows and the windows in the bedroom exploded. It happened pretty fast," she said.

There were large trees blocking the road all through her neighborhood, and several of the houses were hit by falling trees. Her friend was staying with them after the friend's apartment took a direct hit from a falling tree.

To the west, Marion County emergency director Aaron Greer says three injuries have been reported in the community of Pickwick, about seven miles south of Columbia. He says two people were taken to hospitals, but the third didn't have the injury examined.

Greer says one mobile home was destroyed, three other structures have major damage and several have minor damage.

Gov. Phil Bryant plans to go to Hattiesburg on Monday to check out damage in the city and at USM, his alma mater, spokesman Mick Bullock said.

Associated Press writer Janet McConnaughey in New Orleans contributed to this report.

Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
Quoting AussieStorm:




one bad thing I see, it's surrounded by thick forest. They might not of see it coming.
Hopefully the town is so small that tornado missed it to north of it. However, the radar showed a direct hit. This was from earlier:



Again, maybe the town is so small that it's hard to hit it.
A severe t-storm warning is for a storm just west of Hattiesburg. Anyone want to check it out?
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
big tornado 3 mile wide take em right out how wide was the storm

Not sure about the tornado itself, but there was a very nasty couplet with it when it passed/went over. Another member posted this earlier:

Quoting Astrometeor:
A severe t-storm warning is for a storm just west of Hattiesburg. Anyone want to check it out?
I'm not seeing anything. Maybe an extremely weak rotation going south of city, but nothing too tornadic.
Quoting PedleyCA:


pop. 615 ... I sure hope not..... Wiki

well i hope the best for them
Wow, picking on Bill Nye for his eyebrows. Desperate much?

First, Nye in no way blamed asteroids on "global warming", so I'm not sure where that came from.

Second, Nye said nothing about gravity putting pressure behind a low and making it turn; he simply explained that the strongest counterclockwise winds around a low are on different sides of the low depending which coast is affected and, thus, which way the storm is headed at landfall. He could've stated it more eloquently, perhaps, but he was obviously trying to simplify his presentation for a general TV audience.

Nye is a brilliant fellow, and--generally speaking--a great communicator who has led many to pursue science as a either a hobby or a career. Disagree with him if you wish, and debate him scientifically if you dare--but pick on his eyebrows? Seriously? What is this, sixth grade? ;-)
A woman just tweeted "Poor Millry, AL". Doesn't sound like a good news, but TA13 is trying to talk to her.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Wow, picking on Bill Nye for his eyebrows. Desperate much?Disagree with him if you wish, qand debate him scientifically if you dare--but picking on his eyebrows? Seriously? What is this, sixth grade? ;-)


He was my hero in sixth grade, that was my golden year of schooling. Don't talk bad about sixth grade Nea.

-1

Edit: The sad thing is I never knew this guy was a real person till like last year. Shows how good educational TV is when the viewer doesn't know if these things are actually real.
Got to agree, going after Nye's eyebrows is a little low.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Guys... I just completed my blog on the BLIZZARD NEMO... check it out.. there is more stuff in there.

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NICE
Quoting the Whackos just spreads their drivel to the many who have ignored them...
Is that your intent?
Quoting Bluestorm5:
A woman just tweeted "Poor Millry, AL". Doesn't sound like a good news, but TA13 is trying to talk to her.

She won't answer and nobody else is tweeting.
Good Night Conus, Afternoon Aussie - Stay Safe -Stay Warm - Prayers for the People that need them.
On another note...we have TC 15 in the Indian ocean...could reach "hurricane" status
If the training doesn't stop, we will have a new topic to talk about soon-flooding. Never seen such continuous-ness for hours on end like this before.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Wow, picking on Bill Nye for his eyebrows. Desperate much?

First, Nye in no way blamed asteroids on "global warming", so I'm not sure where that came from.

Second, Nye said nothing about gravity putting pressure behind a low and making it turn; he simply explained that the strongest counterclockwise winds around a low are on different sides of the low depending which coast is affected and, thus, which way the storm is headed at landfall. He could've stated it more eloquently, perhaps, but he was obviously trying to simplify his presentation for a general TV audience.

Nye is a brilliant fellow, and--generally speaking--a great communicator who has led many to pursue science as a either a hobby or a career. Disagree with him if you wish, and debate him scientifically if you dare--but pick on his eyebrows? Seriously? What is this, sixth grade? ;-)

Eyebrows aside (which I honestly have no room to talk about :P), I understand what he is trying to say (I think), he just didn't do a good job at all explaining it, and there lies my criticism. Like I mentioned before, I think he was trying to dumb things down for the average public, but in the process he ends up getting mixed up or something and just end up very wrong.
This is the Ace Hardware that was destroyed in the Hattiesburg area.
Quoting 1900hurricane:

From Wiki.

Millry is a town in Washington County, Alabama, United States. The population was 615 at the 2000 census.

How often do you guys do a census? Pop:615 13 years ago. Maybe 700 or maybe 600 now.
Before/after picture of an ACE hardware store in Petal, MS...or what's left of it.

was anyone else to get into the chat again..?

Someone hacked it or something...
Quoting AussieStorm:

How often do you guys do a census? Pop:615 13 years ago. Maybe 700 or maybe 600 now.


Every 10 years, 2010, 2000, 1990, 1980.. so on.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
was anyone else to get into the chat again..?


I am in!

And of course chaser and TA post the exact same picture within seconds of each other, lol.
Quoting AussieStorm:

How often do you guys do a census? Pop:615 13 years ago. Maybe 700 or maybe 600 now.
10 years.
Quoting AussieStorm:

How often do you guys do a census? Pop:615 13 years ago. Maybe 700 or maybe 600 now.

Every ten years; not sure why the new data isn't up on that page. However, it's probably safe to assume that the population hasn't drastically changed so we can at least get a general idea of how many people are there.
Quoting AussieStorm:

How often do you guys do a census? Pop:615 13 years ago. Maybe 700 or maybe 600 now.


Censuses happen every 10 years, but this is a rural town so who knows.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Before/after picture of an ACE hardware store in Petal, MS...or what's left of it.



I have to question the original build quality of that store. However, either way, that's still a pretty strong tornado.
1239. nymore
Quoting Neapolitan:
Wow, picking on Bill Nye for his eyebrows. Desperate much?

First, Nye in no way blamed asteroids on "global warming", so I'm not sure where that came from.

Second, Nye said nothing about gravity putting pressure behind a low and making it turn; he simply explained that the strongest counterclockwise winds around a low are on different sides of the low depending which coast is affected and, thus, which way the storm is headed at landfall. He could've stated it more eloquently, perhaps, but he was obviously trying to simplify his presentation for a general TV audience.

Nye is a brilliant fellow, and--generally speaking--a great communicator who has led many to pursue science as a either a hobby or a career. Disagree with him if you wish, and debate him scientifically if you dare--but pick on his eyebrows? Seriously? What is this, sixth grade? ;-)
Bill Nye exact words are as follows. The nature of the spin of the earth and pull of gravity makes these things get ah high pres a get a little bit of pressure behind them and it pushes them northward.

Maybe my eyebrow comment was a little off color but there is no disputing what he said. He could also work on metric conversions. 200 sq km equals 1200 sq mi. it does?
1240. Bielle
Quoting Astrometeor:


Pop: 615

Land area: 7.7 square miles


615 in 2000, from Wikipedia
Quoting 1900hurricane:

I have to question the original build quality of that store. However, either way, that's still a pretty strong tornado.
high end EF2 storm trees are bent and twisted in appearance any higher EF rating would have snap them right off
Quoting Neapolitan:
Wow, picking on Bill Nye for his eyebrows. Desperate much?

First, Nye in no way blamed asteroids on "global warming", so I'm not sure where that came from.

Second, Nye said nothing about gravity putting pressure behind a low and making it turn; he simply explained that the strongest counterclockwise winds around a low are on different sides of the low depending which coast is affected and, thus, which way the storm is headed at landfall. He could've stated it more eloquently, perhaps, but he was obviously trying to simplify his presentation for a general TV audience.

Nye is a brilliant fellow, and--generally speaking--a great communicator who has led many to pursue science as a either a hobby or a career. Disagree with him if you wish, and debate him scientifically if you dare--but pick on his eyebrows? Seriously? What is this, sixth grade? ;-)
Actually, I got it mixed up. It was CNN anchor that ask him if he would blame global warming for asteroids. My bad.
1243. Levi32
I'm sorry but this is so bad lol. No Nea, you can't defend it. I'm sorry. Feel free to try though.

"well, this particular part of the world. so you get storms that start in -- off the coast of africa and they make their way across the atlantic ocean and the nature of the spin of the earth and the pull of gravity makes these things get a little bit of pressure behind them and it pushes them northward. the thing is and as you observed, both sandy and -- both the rainstorm and the snowstorm follow the same track. it's not a coincidence..."

- Bill Nye
Quoting Levi32:
I'm sorry but this is so bad lol. No Nea, you can't defend it. I'm sorry. Feel free to try though.

"well, this particular part of the world. so you get storms that start in -- off the coast of africa and they make their way across the atlantic ocean and the nature of the spin of the earth and the pull of gravity makes these things get a little bit of pressure behind them and it pushes them northward. the thing is and as you observed, both sandy and -- both the rainstorm and the snowstorm follow the same track. it's not a coincidence..."

- Bill Nye

I would be baffled if that's actually what he believes, but what came out of his mouth was so bad that it may as well have been worse than gibberish (if that's even possible). Being that wrong about something hurts your credibility.
Quoting Levi32:
I'm sorry but this is so bad lol. No Nea, you can't defend it. I'm sorry. Feel free to try though.

"well, this particular part of the world. so you get storms that start in -- off the coast of africa and they make their way across the atlantic ocean and the nature of the spin of the earth and the pull of gravity makes these things get a little bit of pressure behind them and it pushes them northward. the thing is and as you observed, both sandy and -- both the rainstorm and the snowstorm follow the same track. it's not a coincidence..."

- Bill Nye

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!
1247. beell
LOL, pick your battles, Neap.

I put just as much fault on the equally assinine interviewer/network. What was the second NHC track forecast graphic? One was Sandy, the other was not "Nemo".
1248. nymore
Quoting Levi32:
I'm sorry but this is so bad lol. No Nea, you can't defend it. I'm sorry. Feel free to try though.

"well, this particular part of the world. so you get storms that start in -- off the coast of africa and they make their way across the atlantic ocean and the nature of the spin of the earth and the pull of gravity makes these things get a little bit of pressure behind them and it pushes them northward. the thing is and as you observed, both sandy and -- both the rainstorm and the snowstorm follow the same track. it's not a coincidence..."

- Bill Nye

Don't worry he will not be back for awhile because he can never admit he is wrong.
Storm reports thus far for the event:

THIS guy escaped from death filming Hattiesburg tornado... holy cow.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1657036069119 34
Rain totals across southern MS & AL.
1252. nymore
Well good night all. Since it is still snowing here and I have hooked up the snow blower to the Bobcat. I am going to help the older neighbors plow out their driveways in the morning, before they wake up as a little surprise for them and they wake up early. LOL
Lights out – France to force shops and offices to go dark overnight

French light pollution law is expected to save 250,000 tonnes of C02 a year

Katie Davies
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 30 January 2013 17.48 GMT

France's light pollution law comes into effect on 1 July. Photograph: Guardian
Shops and offices throughout France will be forced to turn off their lights overnight in a bid to fight light pollution, the country's environment ministry has announced.

Under the new law, which comes into effect on 1 July, lights in shop window displays will be turned off at 1am. Interior lights in offices and other non-residential buildings will have to be switched off an hour after the last employee leaves. Local councils will be able to make exceptions for Christmas and other special occasions, and in certain tourist or cultural areas.

The move, announced on Wednesday, is expected to save 250,000 tonnes of CO2 – enough energy to power 750,000 French households for a year
.

The French ecology minister, Delphine Batho, said she hoped the law would change attitudes in France and help the country become a pioneer in reducing light pollution.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Wow, picking on Bill Nye for his eyebrows. Desperate much?

First, Nye in no way blamed asteroids on "global warming", so I'm not sure where that came from.

Second, Nye said nothing about gravity putting pressure behind a low and making it turn; he simply explained that the strongest counterclockwise winds around a low are on different sides of the low depending which coast is affected and, thus, which way the storm is headed at landfall. He could've stated it more eloquently, perhaps, but he was obviously trying to simplify his presentation for a general TV audience.

Nye is a brilliant fellow, and--generally speaking--a great communicator who has led many to pursue science as a either a hobby or a career. Disagree with him if you wish, and debate him scientifically if you dare--but pick on his eyebrows? Seriously? What is this, sixth grade? ;-)



I agree, I grew up with him.
Quoting FLWaterFront:


A blast from the past, just for Jedkins.

From before your time but in familiar surroundings...

May 4, 1978. An usually strong storm system for so late in the season and as far south as Florida brought a powerful squall line and a few discrete super cell thunderstorms ahead of it, as it tore through West Central Florida..

One of these super cells dropped an EF-2 or EF-3 tornado which touched the ground for a short distance in the High Point area of Central Pinellas County, FL. This twister struck the High Point Elementary school during the lunch hour on that day and sadly took three lives there. However, had the students all been in their classrooms instead of the cafeteria (which was not as badly damaged) the death toll could have been much higher. The same tornado was seen by the air traffic controllers at Tampa International Airport a few minutes later, heading in their direction. This caused the control tower to be evacuated but fortunately, the funnel cloud was no longer on the ground when it passed nearby to TIA.

It was reported that the tops of some of the more severe storms in the area on that day reached a height of 62,000 feet, most likely including the super cell which produced the deadly High Point tornado.

I can assure you that the above information is nearly entirely 100% accurate. I remember hearing it reported at the time and also reading about the meteorological details in reports later on. And of course, you are very familiar with that exact area though in a later era. So there you go.



Yeah I remember discovering this event a few years ago, I was shocked because highpoint elementary is practically right next to my home. It's literally right down the street from where I live.

the same general area was also struck by what was rated as an F4 and an F3 just a bit south also in Pinellas on the same day a while back as well, my area is a local tornado hotspot:

Link

A couple years ago in spring, a local tornado outbreak led to at least 9 tornadoes in the Tampa Bay area and 1 came within a mile from me and damaged St. Petersburg Clearwater airport. It was rain-wrapped in torrential rain so I couldn't see the funnel, but we did get 60 to 70 mph gusts from what I think was the RFD around the base of the meso because I could see the rapidly rotating base come by to my south and saw the power flashes where the tornado would have crossed! We also had over 9 inches of rain that day and over 3 inches from just that one cell that produced the tornado in less than an hour.


What is strange is that every few years we can see these crazy torrential rain and severe events during what is mostly a dry or inactive period.

In February several years back, we had 15 inches of rain in 3 hours from a stalled cold front and Tampa had 8 or 9 in 3 hours as well. The rainfall rate was unbelievable, my rain gauge recorded a peak rain rate over 6.5 inches per hour in one of the thunderstorm cores, it was crazy even for here rainfall wise.

Good night everyone, I got school tomorrow and it is the final week until mid-winter break. Hopefully the mystery of Millry is solved tomorrow morning, I hope everything is ok.
Quoting wxchaser97:
Good night everyone, I got school tomorrow and it is the final week until mid-winter break. Hopefully the mystery of Millry is solved tomorrow morning, I hope everything is ok.
Hopefully we'll find out more in the morning... praying they're okay.
Nye has a degree in Mechanical Engineering, but do you honestly expect him to know everything? His work with NASA's planetary probes and just listening to his lectures proves to the fact he's a smart guy, he knows what he's talking about usually and has complete credibility to me, if you want to degrade his entire career off a statement that he made go for it. I'll go ahead and give Neil deGrasse Tyson my complete lack of respect for not knowing everything about the development of polar lows.

Clearly his statement is wrong, there was no AEW's involved with the development of the winter storm, complete nonsense and we all know it. It's clear he looks into stuff like meteorology on his free time, not because he's pumped money into a doctorate for it.

The same could be said for all of us, he's passionate about it, but he's not completely knowledgeable and gets his knowledge from others. We do it during hurricane season when we sit our butts on our chairs and read this blog. I don't hold a degree, but I assure you when TWC's Tropical Update comes on, I'm quick to point out the real name of the disturbance and how the GFDL has shifted since the last model run. I also can pump out complete nonsense from time to time that's so obvious it's wrong, it's hysterical. Just keep that in mind.

Professional in one subject doesn't mean professional in all.
Quoting 1900hurricane:

I would be baffled if that's actually what he believes, but what came out of his mouth was so bad that it may as well have been worse than gibberish (if that's even possible). Being that wrong about something hurts your credibility.



To be fair I've heard very credible meteorologists say some very wrong things that are pretty simple principles in meteorology. When someone speaks on T.V. and is/are put on the spot that can happen. Everyone makes mistakes, I'm sure if you had a conversation with him he would take that back. I've said plenty of things before that contradict something that I firmly understand or know, it happens to the best of us even. Furthermore, sometimes scientists who are very smart say things about other fields of science that they don't know as much about. It would be like me discussing biology and fossils, I know some things about it, but I could very quickly get myself in trouble, lol.
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Nye has a degree in Mechanical Engineering, but do you honestly expect him to know everything? His work with NASA's planetary probes and just listening to his lectures proves to the fact he's a smart guy, he knows what he's talking about usually and has complete credibility to me, if you want to degrade his entire career off a statement that he made go for it. I'll go ahead and give Neil deGrasse Tyson my complete lack of respect for not knowing everything about the development of polar lows.

Clearly his statement is wrong, there was no AEW's involved with the development of the winter storm, complete nonsense and we all know it. It's clear he looks into stuff like meteorology on his free time, not because he's pumped money into a doctorate for it.

The same could be said for all of us, he's passionate about it, but he's not completely knowledgeable and gets his knowledge from others. We do it during hurricane season when we sit our butts on our chairs and read this blog. I don't hold a degree, but I assure you when TWC's Tropical Update comes on, I'm quick to point out the real name of the disturbance and how the GFDL has shifted since the last model run. I also can pump out complete nonsense from time to time that's so obvious it's wrong, it's hysterical. Just keep that in mind.

Professional in one subject doesn't mean professional in all.


Great point.
1261. Levi32
A man with the scientific and social standing of Nye has a responsibility to deliver accurate information when speaking to a national/world audience. Obviously he is not a meteorologist, and if he is not educated enough on the field to avoid grossly misleading the public, he has no business accepting an interview. It's squarely on his shoulders, and those of NBC. No excuses.
Quoting wxchaser97:
Good night everyone, I got school tomorrow and it is the final week until mid-winter break. Hopefully the mystery of Millry is solved tomorrow morning, I hope everything is ok.


I checked out the news on AL.com and they seem to have updated most news tonight. Millry is a small, rural town and I feel that we would have heard of any major damage by now. I would think that the local officials would have been out and about by now. However, there could be some isolated reports of damage that might not be known until the morning.
Also, I can think of another more recent tornado event that happened pretty close to me:




There have been others as well...

It seems like the Tampa Bay area is historically a bit of a tornado hotspot.
Storm reports so far:

Millry is in Washington County. The only storm report out of there is this. Next county west is a sliver of Clarke where it dumped some debris & then destroyed some houses.
..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0505 PM TORNADO 3 SE BIGBEE 31.58N 88.13W
02/10/2013 WASHINGTON AL EMERGENCY MNGR

ROOF OF HOMW CO RD 34. 12 X 16 BUILDING DISTROYED


&&
Quoting Levi32:
A man with the scientific and social standing of Nye has a responsibility to deliver accurate information when speaking to a national/world audience. Obviously he is not a meteorologist, and if he is not educated enough on the field to avoid grossly misleading the public, he has no business accepting an interview. It's squarely on his shoulders, and those of NBC. No excuses.


Not sure what you're so up in arms about here. I can't count how many times there's been a pseudo-science/anti-science hack paraded around Fox News as an "expert" in a field of science that "grossly misleads the public", and yet it barely warrants a mention.

I'm not defending what Bill Nye said. I'm just wondering why this instance is getting special attention as opposed to the thousands of others that haven't.
Freezing rain finally moved out and temps are above freezing for now. Should make things a little easier tomorrow for gettin' around. Although it could be a slushy mess in the morning.

Stay safe down south!!!

Evening all.... seems to be close to 3 ft of snow in several locations along the CT / RI / MA coastline... makes me real glad I'm here and not there... plus this next storm seems lined up to bring some more...
Quoting nymore:

Don't worry he will not be back for awhile because he can never admit he is wrong.
Talking about Bill Nye's eyebrows sounds kinda weird. Bill Nye sounding that convoluted about something scientific sounds even weirder. He used to be a really clear presenter of ideas.

Pity.
Injuries at around 70 for Alabama and Mississippi so far today, with two critical reported with Hattiesburg tornado. Numbers will inevitably increase with the light of day and full info tomorrow. Bad day, glad it wasn't tragic with large losses of life. Big bad quarter mile wide EF3+ in a populated area could have been far worse. Emergency management and local news did a great job in getting warnings out far enough in advance.
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Not sure what you're so up in arms about here. I can't count how many times there's been a pseudo-science/anti-science hack paraded around Fox News as an "expert" in a field of science that "grossly misleads the public", and yet it barely warrants a mention.

I'm not defending what Bill Nye said. I'm just wondering why this instance is getting special attention as opposed to the thousands of others that haven't.
IMO some of it is because many of us view him as "the science guy", iow as someone not only knowledgeable but also capable of communicating that knowledge in a clearly understandable manner. OTOH, we kinda expect the average Fox hack to be wrong.... Bill is supposed to be clear and right.

Guess a little disappointment kicks in when your childhood guru doesn't look so smart....
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #9
TROPICAL DEPRESSION, FORMER HALEY (14F)
16:00 PM FST February 11 2013
====================================

At 4:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression, Former Haley (1000 hPa) located at 25.0S 149.2W has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southeast at 12 knots. Position fair based on GOES visible imagery.

Low level circulation center exposed with deep convection displaced to the far east. System lies just south of an upper-level ridge in a low sheared environment and continues to be steered southeastwards by northwest deep layer mean wind flow into more cooler sea surface temperatures. Sea surface temperature is around 25-26C. Dvorak analysis based on shear pattern with low level circulation center less than 1 degree from strong temperature gradient, yielding DT=2.0, MET=2.0, and PT=1.5. Final Dvorak number based on DT.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.0/2.5/W1.0/24 HRS

Global models agree on a southeast movement with further weakening.

THIS WILL BE THE FINAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE ADVISORY FROM FIJI METEOROLOGICAL SERVICES ON HALEY UNLESS IT RE-DEVELOPS.
I spoke too soon about the rain moving out. This could easily keep freezing upon contact. No class in the morning? A man can dream...

Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #1
DEPRESSION TROPICALE 08-20122013
10:00 AM RET February 11 2013
=======================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 08 (997 hPa) located at 12.6S 82.3E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The depression is reported as moving west at 8 knots.

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
20 NM radius from the center, extending up to 40 NM in the northwestern quadrant, up to 100 NM in the southwestern quadrant, and up to 130 NM in the southeast quadrant

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5/2.5/S0.0/0 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
========================
12 HRS: 13.9S 80.8E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)
24 HRS: 15.3S 79.6E - 45 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)
48 HRS: 18.0S 78.2E - 65 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
72 HRS: 21.5S 78.3E - 85 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)

Additional Information
======================
Convection has consolidated during last night,and shows now a banding pattern. Intensification is confirmed by the last SSMIS data of 0227z and buoy data 53006 (-2hpa en 8 hours).

The system is tracking west southwestwards on the northern edge of the low levels ridge, it is expected to track southwestwards as a ridge builds in the east of the system at middle level. On Wednesday and beyond, the system is forecast to recurve east of 75.0E under the combined effect of the ridge in the east and an arrival through in the southwest.

On this track, conditions are favorable to intensification, with the weakening easterly to northeasterly constraint on Monday, then under the ridge axis on tuesday. Energetic potential is good up to 20.0S. On Thursday and beyond the system undergo a strengthening northwesterly vertical wind shear
Quoting Levi32:
I'm sorry but this is so bad lol. No Nea, you can't defend it. I'm sorry. Feel free to try though.

"well, this particular part of the world. so you get storms that start in -- off the coast of africa and they make their way across the atlantic ocean and the nature of the spin of the earth and the pull of gravity makes these things get a little bit of pressure behind them and it pushes them northward. the thing is and as you observed, both sandy and -- both the rainstorm and the snowstorm follow the same track. it's not a coincidence..."

- Bill Nye
Ouch.

I remember watching Bill Nye in middle school and looking up to him. He is knowledgeable on certain subjects, but knowledge in one field certainly does not carry over to other fields. What he said here is quite embarrassing, hopefully people watching had sense enough to know that what he said was complete nonsense.
A new tropical cyclone has formed over the South Indian basin, and it appears decently organized with curved bands. This storm should steadily intensify in the next few days as it will remain in favorable environmental conditions. The cyclone will eventually weaken after day three, and it is not expected to threaten any land areas.

Quoting CybrTeddy:
Nye has a degree in Mechanical Engineering, but do you honestly expect him to know everything? His work with NASA's planetary probes and just listening to his lectures proves to the fact he's a smart guy, he knows what he's talking about usually and has complete credibility to me, if you want to degrade his entire career off a statement that he made go for it. I'll go ahead and give Neil deGrasse Tyson my complete lack of respect for not knowing everything about the development of polar lows.

...

Professional in one subject doesn't mean professional in all.
He is a smart guy. He is very knowledgeable in certain topics. The problem is he agreed to do an interview on a subject which he doesn't understand very well and ended up completely misinforming the public.

I would agree with Levi that NBC and Bill Nye are both responsible for misinforming the general public. Certainly I still respect the guy and agree he is knowledgeable on many subjects, but agreeing to this interview was not one of his best decisions.
Enjoy your winter weather now. MJO forcing argues strongly for a solid warm up and return to mild weather in the east in about a week and a half.

Quoting Bluestorm5:
Actually, I got it mixed up. It was CNN anchor that ask him if he would blame global warming for asteroids. My bad.

The CNN anchor did ask about asteroids



I know she's probably reading from a script or a telepromter but come one. Can't she think for her self?
Quoting TomTaylor:
Ouch.

I remember watching Bill Nye in middle school and looking up to him. He is knowledgeable on certain subjects, but knowledge in one field certainly does not carry over to other fields. What he said here is quite embarrassing, hopefully people watching had sense enough to know that what he said was complete nonsense.

I think people that watched that and what he said on CNN drank it in like koolaid.
SPC: At least 61 injured in Hattiesburg, MS area following #tornado. Raw twister footage courtesy of: @Hattiesburg_MS

Quoting Xyrus2000:


Not sure what you're so up in arms about here. I can't count how many times there's been a pseudo-science/anti-science hack paraded around Fox News as an "expert" in a field of science that "grossly misleads the public", and yet it barely warrants a mention.

I'm not defending what Bill Nye said. I'm just wondering why this instance is getting special attention as opposed to the thousands of others that haven't.


Speaking of which, while not claiming to be a expert in it just someone who acts as if she is an authority on the subject, this occurred at Fox News who explains that solar works better in Germany because they've got lots more sun there. If you already know it is sunnier here than Germany, but want to know just how how off the mark she is this will help

Literally nowhere in America is there as little sun as most of Germany except Alaska.
Quoting AlwaysThinkin:


Speaking of which, while not claiming to be a expert in it just someone who acts as if she is an authority on the subject, this occurred at Fox News who explains that solar works better in Germany because they've got lots more sun there. If you already know it is sunnier here than Germany, but want to know just how how off the mark she is this will help

Literally nowhere in America is there as little sun as most of Germany except Alaska.

It looks like Fox News, NBC and CNN all employ dumb people that are just happy to read from a script and never question what is written even though it's so utterly stupid. I guess it keeps them in a job by not stepping on toes of the editors, yet they look like utter fools to the people they are meant to be serving, the public.
Here's a closer footage of the Hattiesburg tornado earlier today. Warning: Foul language



MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0148
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0155 AM CST MON FEB 11 2013

AREAS AFFECTED...SOUTHEAST MS/SOUTHERN AL

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE

VALID 110755Z - 110930Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...40 PERCENT

SUMMARY...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR AT LEAST LOCALIZED WIND DAMAGE ACROSS
SOUTHEAST MS INTO SOUTHERN AL OVERNIGHT. REPETITIVE/LOCALLY HEAVY
RAINFALL WILL ALSO REMAIN A CONCERN OVERNIGHT.

DISCUSSION...SHOWERS/TSTMS HAVE REMAINED PERSISTENT NEAR/IMMEDIATELY
NORTH OF AN WSW-ENE ORIENTED OUTFLOW BOUNDARY ACROSS SOUTHERN
PORTIONS OF MS/AL...THAT ROUGHLY EXTENDS FROM NEAR HATTIESBURG MS
INTO SOUTHWEST/SOUTH-CENTRAL AL. A RECENT RENEWED UPSWING IN
CONVECTIVE INTENSITY HAS OCCURRED WITHIN THIS CORRIDOR...WHICH IS
LIKELY BEING AIDED BY LOW-LEVEL CONFLUENCE/WARM ADVECTION. EVEN
WHILE THESE STORMS WILL TEND TO REMAIN FOCUSED IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF
PRIOR OUTFLOW...CONTINUED CONGEALING OF UPDRAFTS AND STRONG/NEARLY
UNIDIRECTIONAL DEEP LAYER FLOW MAY PROMOTE SOME ORGANIZED/FORWARD
PROPAGATING LINEAR STRUCTURES OVERNIGHT ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF FAR
SOUTHEAST MS INTO SOUTHWEST/SOUTH-CENTRAL AL. AT LEAST LOCALIZED
WIND DAMAGE WILL BE POSSIBLE ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF
SMALL BOWING SEGMENTS. HEAVY/REPETITIVE RAINFALL WILL ALSO REMAIN A
CONCERN.

..GUYER/CORFIDI.. 02/11/2013


MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0149
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0218 AM CST MON FEB 11 2013

AREAS AFFECTED...SOUTH TX TOWARD THE MIDDLE TX COAST

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE

VALID 110818Z - 110945Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...40 PERCENT

SUMMARY...ISOLATED BOUTS OF SEVERE HAIL WILL BE POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT
ACROSS PORTIONS OF SOUTH TX TOWARD THE MIDDLE TX COAST.

DISCUSSION...STRONG TSTMS HAVE INCREASED OVER THE PAST HOUR ACROSS
SOUTH TX...ROUGHLY FROM THE RIO GRANDE RIVER NORTH OF LAREDO TX
EASTWARD TOWARD THE I-37 VICINITY. THESE STORMS ARE ELEVATED /LIKELY
BASED AROUND 850-900 MB/...AND WILL LIKELY REMAIN THAT WAY...TO THE
NORTH OF A NEAR-COASTAL SURFACE BOUNDARY. CONSIDERING THE 00Z
OBSERVED SOUNDINGS FROM DEL RIO/CORPUS CHRISTI/BROWNSVILLE TX...A
DEGREE OF MID-LEVEL MOISTENING AND PROXIMITY OF STEEP MID-LEVEL
LAPSE RATES ARE LIKELY SUPPORTING MUCAPE OF AT LEAST 1000 J/KG. AND
GIVEN RELATIVELY STRONG SHEAR THROUGH THE CLOUD BEARING LAYER /50+
KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR ESTIMATED PER REGIONAL WSR-88D VWPS/...ELEVATED
SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF SEVERE HAIL WILL BE POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT. SUCH A
THREAT WILL EXIST ACROSS SOUTH TX INITIALLY...BUT MAY SPREAD TOWARD
THE MIDDLE TX COAST THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS.

..GUYER/CORFIDI.. 02/11/2013
When did they [SPC] start doing watch issuance probabilities?
1295. LargoFl
Good Morning Folks!..the Blogs coffee is perked for when you get here..enjoy!..have a great day everyone
1296. LargoFl
looks like weds-thurs is our day for this front....
1297. LargoFl
1298. LargoFl
south florida dry as well..................
1299. LargoFl
still raining in Texas,should help their drought some..
1300. LargoFl
1301. LargoFl
wow 48 hours and still raining,flooding is a big concern


This spectacular cloud formation was captured by the crew on board the International Space Station, as they soared above Western Africa. The image shows a fully formed anvil cloud with numerous cumulonimbus towers rising near it. An awesome sight!

(Image: NASA)
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Not sure what you're so up in arms about here. I can't count how many times there's been a pseudo-science/anti-science hack paraded around Fox News as an "expert" in a field of science that "grossly misleads the public", and yet it barely warrants a mention.

I'm not defending what Bill Nye said. I'm just wondering why this instance is getting special attention as opposed to the thousands of others that haven't.
I suppose it's because we've come to expect nothing but pure bunkum from the mouths of the anti-science "experts" repeatedly and endlessly trotted out on Fox and elsewhere, while folks like Nye are--and probably should be--held to a much high standard of truthfulness, knowledge, and accuracy. IOW, Fox's lies and distortions are a classic run-of-the-mill, garden variety "dog bites man" story, while instances of Nye miscommunicating or being sloppy are so few and far between as to be a true "man bites dog" event--and that alone makes this particular interview, I suppose, worthy of notice.
1304. emguy
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Lights out – France to force shops and offices to go dark overnight

French light pollution law is expected to save 250,000 tonnes of C02 a year

Katie Davies
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 30 January 2013 17.48 GMT

France's light pollution law comes into effect on 1 July. Photograph: Guardian
Shops and offices throughout France will be forced to turn off their lights overnight in a bid to fight light pollution, the country's environment ministry has announced.

Under the new law, which comes into effect on 1 July, lights in shop window displays will be turned off at 1am. Interior lights in offices and other non-residential buildings will have to be switched off an hour after the last employee leaves. Local councils will be able to make exceptions for Christmas and other special occasions, and in certain tourist or cultural areas.

The move, announced on Wednesday, is expected to save 250,000 tonnes of CO2 – enough energy to power 750,000 French households for a year
.

The French ecology minister, Delphine Batho, said she hoped the law would change attitudes in France and help the country become a pioneer in reducing light pollution.


On first glace/first read...this is a feel good article...then place on the thinking caps and realize that every facet of this law and this article is fundamentally wrong. When will people wake up, lift the vail of blindness, and think it through. This is not good, it's bad....
Good morning, everyone. Evening, Aussie. 54 degrees here with a high 60 expected. Good thunderstorm woke me at about 3 am. We're currently in a "hole" in the storm so I could get the dogs out.

Breakfast's on the sideboard, different kinds of muffins and make your own omelet. Enjoy
Eyewitness News ‏@eyewitnessnyc

Vatican announces Pope Benedict XVI will retire on February 28 #BreakingNews
1307. beell
Quoting KoritheMan:
When did they [SPC] start doing watch issuance probabilities?


May 1, 2012. Contained in the Mesoscale Discussion product.

As part of SPCs efforts to more efficiently convey critical forecast information, standardized content structure within the Mesoscale Discussion (MD) product will increase, including new information on the probability of watch issuance for severe potential MDs. Starting May 1, 2012, MDs will include the following sections...
SPC Mesoscale Discussion Changes
Quoting Luisport:
Eyewitness News ‏@eyewitnessnyc

Vatican announces Pope Benedict XVI will retire on February 28 #BreakingNews


He'll be able to spend more time in the woods, now.
Quoting yonzabam:


He'll be able to spend more time in the woods, now.
what? Retire? No pope has ever done that before...
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
what? Retire? No pope has ever done that before...
zerohedge‏@zerohedge

Vatican Spokesman Says Pope Announcement Was “a Surprise"
Based on my research...the last Pope to retire was Pope Gregory XII (12) back in 1415!!! nearly 6 centuries ago!
Quoting AussieStorm:


This spectacular cloud formation was captured by the crew on board the International Space Station, as they soared above Western Africa. The image shows a fully formed anvil cloud with numerous cumulonimbus towers rising near it. An awesome sight!

(Image: NASA)



Aussie... how's the weather there now? A little cooler??, I have had no news from there for a while now..
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Based on my research...the last Pope to retire was Pope Gregory XII (12) back in 1415!!! nearly 6 centuries ago!
yes... Popes just don't resign... as catholic i'm shoked!
Quoting Luisport:
yes... Popes just don't resign... as catholic i'm shoked!


Probably due to failing health. Pope John Paul II ought to have retired, also. He developed symptoms of Parkinson's disease and dementia in his final years. Didn't know what was going on around him.
Quoting Luisport:
yes... Popes just don't resign... as catholic i'm shoked!


I am too..shocked as well.
The 6z GFS went completely insane and showed a massive storm hitting the NE next weekend:



This would be heavy rain for coastal areas and very heavy snow inland.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
The 6z GFS went completely insane and showed a massive storm hitting the NE next weekend:



This would be heavy rain for coastal areas and very heavy snow inland.


impressive. Another Nemo strong?
I don't think the Pope would retire unless something was affecting his abilities. I support him, though as a Catholic I am in shock as well. I'm sure it wasn't a light decision for him, but was made for the good of the church.

Everyone have a great Monday. Aussie, have a great Tuesday. I'm off to dodge raindrops to get to the car and of course, no recess for the kids again...
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


impressive. Another Nemo strong?

If the 6z GFS solution panned out than it would be pretty close for sure. Here's the Euro for the same timeframe though, much different:



Interesting to note the Euro Ensemble run though, much closer:



And for what it's worth, the CMC actually shows an inside runner with rain for many:

And one more, here's the UKMET, this would be a pretty major snowstorm for the NE if it verified:

Quoting MAweatherboy1:
And one more, here's the UKMET, this would be a pretty major snowstorm for the NE if it verified:




However.. I just checked the weather and it says it's going to snow on the 16th...

Feb 16, 2013
High 33
Low 19.... Im a little overwhelm by the way the GFS bombs the storm here.

All other days around it are also cold.

Weather is good for snow at the coast..

Quoting TomballTXPride:




Ahhhh.


I see nothing has changed since I returned. The same old same old run-of-the-mill, garden variety blathering, whining and crying about Fox news from the same old far left extreme point of view by the same old talking heads here. Let me give you a hint: Remove the socialist Marxist sunglasses and you might see a little clearer.

With that said; let me remind you that Fox News is number 1. Number 1.

Hmmmm......I'm sure there is a reason for that......

Once you grasp and embrace the truth Neapolitan, you just might feel a lot better.

Good morning, by the way. ;-)






Science has nothing to do with politics, but it's a common propagandist ploy by climate change deniers to conflate the science with left wing politics.
1325. barbamz
Quoting aislinnpaps:
I don't think the Pope would retire unless something was affecting his abilities. I support him, though as a Catholic I am in shock as well. I'm sure it wasn't a light decision for him, but was made for the good of the church.

Everyone have a great Monday. Aussie, have a great Tuesday. I'm off to dodge raindrops to get to the car and of course, no recess for the kids again...


Short hello from Germany. Today it's the summit of carnival time at least in the southern and western mostly catholic parts of Germany, the "Monday of Roses". Those heartlands are going nuts today, shops are closed, most of our bishops (yes, I'm catholic too) are out of town or hunkered down in a safe place. Strange day to announce retirement, at least from our perspective, lol. I was really shocked to hear about it two hours ago ... but I'm glad for the pope that he may be able to enjoy some calm days for the rest of his life.

BTW: weatherwise it's cold but dry today in Germany. More snow to come though.

With a "Helau!" (= carnival acclamation in our town Mainz, a heartland of carnival cheerfullness too), Barb

Have a look whats going on in Mainz:



Link to the webcam
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:



Aussie... how's the weather there now? A little cooler??, I have had no news from there for a while now..

The weather here is nice. Did you catch the video I posted last night of the very close lightning strikes. This week is going to be mostly cloudy and full of showers

Everyone say hello to Tropical Cyclone Gino.

Quoting barbamz:


Short hello from Germany. Today it's the summit of carnival time at least in the southern and western mostly catholic parts of Germany, the "Monday of Roses". Those heartlands are going nuts today, shops are closed, most of our bishops (yes, I'm catholic too) are out of town or hunkered down in a safe place. Strange day to announce retirement, at least from our perspective, lol. I was really shocked to hear about it two hours ago ... but I'm glad for the pope that he may be able to enjoy some calm days for the rest of his life.

BTW: weatherwise it's cold but dry today in Germany. More snow to come though.

With a "Helau!" (= carnival acclamation in our town Mainz, a heartland of carnival cheerfullness too), Barb


Interesting... Thanks for letting us know from over there in Germany.

Btw. I have a friend who left to Munich, she has been there for 3 years now...never heard again from her after she sent me some awesome pictures...what an amazing city that is!
Quoting AussieStorm:

The weather here is nice. Did you catch the video I posted last night of the very close lightning strikes. This week is going to be mostly cloudy and full of showers

Everyone say hello to Tropical Cyclone Gino.



oh.. I did not...let me check
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
The 6z GFS went completely insane and showed a massive storm hitting the NE next weekend:



This would be heavy rain for coastal areas and very heavy snow inland.

25+ inches for portions of southern Pennsylvania and then northeastern New York, most of New Hampshire, and western Vermont and Maine.
Quoting yonzabam:


Science has nothing to do with politics, but it's a common propagandist ploy by climate change deniers to conflate the science with left wing politics.

Science and Politics should never be combined
Science and Sport should also never be combined.

I think this is the 1st pope in like 600 years to resign. Modern day popes normally pass away.
It's interesting to note that, despite the weekend's nasty blizzard, low temperature records have been notably absent in the Northeast; over the weekend, not a single daily low, or low maximum, temperature record has yet been reported* east of the Mississippi. (For the month-to-date, record highs still outnumber record lows across the U.S. by 302 to 101, while for the YTD, that ratio is 5,884 to 2,124, or about 2.76:1.)

temps

* - It sometimes takes up to three days for temperature records to be validated and reported to the NCDC, so it's possible for the current numbers to change. Also, today's (Monday's) record lows, if any, have not yet been reported.
I am getting a nice and by the looks of it a very short shower.

I just saw the Nye clip on here, I listened to him and he didn't say anything wrong. He didn't say asteroids cause global warming or vice versa. The asteroid will miss earth by a VERY small margin, between the orbits of polar satellites and geosynchronous ones further out. It is the size of half a football field and IF, he said IF too, it hit a large area would be wiped out.
On the 15th it will miss and should be visible on the Aussie side of the globe.

She continued to ask questions while he continued his train of thought. What did he say wrong?
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Not sure what you're so up in arms about here. I can't count how many times there's been a pseudo-science/anti-science hack paraded around Fox News as an "expert" in a field of science that "grossly misleads the public", and yet it barely warrants a mention.

I'm not defending what Bill Nye said. I'm just wondering why this instance is getting special attention as opposed to the thousands of others that haven't.

I can't speak for everyone on the topic, but I don't watch the news very often. This is for various reasons. First, my roommates and I don't have cable and the signal for our TV is crap, so much antenna adjusting must go on just to get the station you want. Second, I just really don't care to watch it. Much of the news nowadays is just political propaganda hogwash which quickly leaves me disinterested and deciding I have better things to do. If I really want to look up something newsworthy (such as The Pope thing this morning), it's just a few clicks on the internet away from me. The only reason I even saw Bill Nye botch up meteorology in that video is because it was posted to the blog and I decided to give it a watch. As someone who thought watching Bill Nye in class was the best day ever growing up, it left me quite disappointed.
I found his words... originally in Latin but also translated

"In order to govern the barque of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005"
1336. barbamz
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


Interesting... Thanks for letting us know from over there in Germany.

Btw. I have a friend who left to Munich, she has been there for 3 years now...never heard again from her after she sent me some awesome pictures...what an amazing city that is!


Some live picture gallery from Mainz right now



Link
Messy

Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


oh.. I did not...let me check

Here. I'll save you the hassle

Pope retiring, political arguing, anyone know of any good weather blogs I could check out? I do have to say I so love the way the crazy people sect responds when their precious source of misinformation is attacked for their lies. Watching Faux news is an immediate litmus test for intelligence, and helps me know who to block if I would like to only see intelligent discussion. Not liking Faux news = Marxism, I can't even imagine how that could actually make sense to a living breathing presumably not brain-dead human.
Quoting barbamz:


Some live picture gallery from Mainz right now



Link


what a unique and wonderful celebration...

I would not miss it if I were there




hard to understand what the page says... just Hallo, that's all I know
Quoting EricSpittle:
Pope retiring, political arguing, anyone know of any good weather blogs I could check out? I do have to say I so love the way the crazy people sect responds when their precious source of misinformation is attacked for their lies. Watching Faux news is an immediate litmus test for intelligence, and helps me know who to block if I would like to only see intelligent discussion. Not liking Faux news = Marxism, I can't even imagine how that could actually make sense to a living breathing presumably not brain-dead human.

That's exactly correct, Eric. The door swings both ways. I would much rather have a fair and balanced news outlet than a far left MSNBC.
I wonder if Gro remembers when the last pope resigned?
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
533 AM EST MON FEB 11 2013

FLZ039-042-043-048>052-055>057-060>062-065-GMZ830 -850-853-856-870-
873-876-112300-
LEVY-CITRUS-SUMTER-HERNANDO-PASCO-PINELLAS-HILLSB OROUGH-POLK-
MANATEE-HARDEE-HIGHLANDS-SARASOTA-DESOTO-CHARLOTT E-LEE-
TAMPA BAY WATERS-TARPON SPRINGS TO SUWANNEE RIVER OUT 20 NM-
ENGLEWOOD TO TARPON SPRINGS OUT 20 NM-
BONITA BEACH TO ENGLEWOOD OUT 20 NM-
TARPON SPRINGS TO SUWANNEE RIVER OUT 20 TO 60 NM-
ENGLEWOOD TO TARPON SPRINGS OUT 20 TO 60 NM-
BONITA BEACH TO ENGLEWOOD OUT 20 TO 60 NM-
533 AM EST MON FEB 11 2013

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT.

...WIND AND SEA IMPACT...
SOUTHEAST WINDS OF 15 TO 20 KNOTS WITH SEAS UP TO 4 FEET WILL
RESULT IN UNFAVORABLE BOATING CONDITIONS FOR SMALLER CRAFT THIS
MORNING. WINDS AND SEAS WILL BEGIN TO DIMINISH BY THIS AFTERNOON.

...DENSE FOG/SMOKE IMPACT...
FOG IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP TONIGHT ESPECIALLY FROM THE TAMPA BAY
AREA NORTHWARD. CONDITIONS WILL ALSO BECOME MORE FAVORABLE FOR SEA
FOG TO DEVELOP. SOME FOG MAY BECOME LOCALLY DENSE REDUCING
VISIBILITIES TO UNDER A MILE AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL PASS NORTH OF THE REGION ON WEDNESDAY
DRAGGING A COLD FRONT INTO THE STATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND
EVENING. SOME THUNDERSTORMS MAY PRECEDE THE FRONT BUT SEVERE
STORMS ARE NOT EXPECTED.

A SECOND AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE NORTH OF OUR REGION ON
SATURDAY DRAGGING A STRONGER COLD FRONT THROUGH THE STATE.
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS MAY PRECEDE THE FRONT...THEN IT WILL
TURN BLUSTERY AND COLDER AFTER THE FRONT PASSES LATE SATURDAY AND
SATURDAY NIGHT.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL NOT BE NEEDED TODAY.

$$

JILLSON



Quoting AussieStorm:

Here. I'll save you the hassle



wow..some dangerous/freaky storm that was. Good thing you were safe from it.

Anyone notice the possible subtropical or tropical depression in the South Atlantic Ocean?-Satellite Imagery
1346. VR46L
Quoting TomballTXPride:




Ahhhhhhhhhhh.

I see nothing has changed since I returned. The same old same old run-of-the-mill, garden variety blathering, whining and crying about Fox news from the same old far left extreme point of view by the same old talking heads here. Let me give you a hint: Remove the socialist Marxist sunglasses and you might see a little clearer.

With that said; let me remind you that Fox News is number 1. Number 1.

Hmmmm......I'm sure there is a reason for that......

Once you grasp and embrace the truth Neapolitan, you just might feel a lot better.

Good morning, by the way. ;-)







Good Morning all!!

Ains,

Did you have a great time on Vacation ?

I have missed you on here !!


Anyways I see there is several significant storms being forecast by the GFS Model





Quoting EricSpittle:
Pope retiring, political arguing, anyone know of any good weather blogs I could check out? I do have to say I so love the way the crazy people sect responds when their precious source of misinformation is attacked for their lies. Watching Faux news is an immediate litmus test for intelligence, and helps me know who to block if I would like to only see intelligent discussion. Not liking Faux news = Marxism, I can't even imagine how that could actually make sense to a living breathing presumably not brain-dead human.

Oh, the last time I said Faux News I practically was booted out with barely enough time to grab my thing and was shouted down with howls of derision. Since that day I haven't said anything "bad" about Fox news.
1348. barbamz
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


what a unique and wonderful celebration...

I would not miss it if I were there




hard to understand what the page says... just Hallo, that's all I know


I live in the heart of the town. It's all around me, lol.
Quoting Zhayes151:
Anyone notice the possible subtropical or tropical depression in the South Atlantic Ocean?-Satellite Imagery


I did not know about that ...
Thanks for letting us know

Latest sat picture

Quoting barbamz:


I live in the heart of the town. It's all around me, lol.


it looks like it rained before or something. Am I wrong?
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


wow..some dangerous/freaky storm that was. Good thing you were safe from it.


I actually just set my cellphone up at the window and started to record a video. Those two strikes where about 8 minutes apart, I just trimmed the video.
Quoting AussieStorm:

I actually just set my cellphone up at the window and started to record a video. Those two strikes where about 8 minutes apart, I just trimmed the video.


Cool Aussie! :-) I'd love to see the video, but I can't watch YouTube. :-(

WunderGirl12
1353. barbamz
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


it looks like it rained before or something. Am I wrong?


Little bit earlier.
Link to radar
But now back to some more interesting weather worldwide now, lol.
Oh wow... My sister's school was on a 2-hour delayed opening and now they cancelled classes for today HALF AN HOUR prior to entrance (from the delay).

I feel there some upset teachers, specially those that came from upstate Connecticut under the heavier snow.
Quoting barbamz:


Little bit earlier.
Link to radar
But now back to some more interesting weather worldwide now, lol.


Well, have a great time..!
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


I did not know about that ...
Thanks for letting us know



You're welcome. Hopefully this system can get more attention. I'd like to see if someone can tell how strong it is, and whether it is subtropical/tropical or not.
I know this comment is messed up...
You wouldn't believe it but there is a Thunderstorm on this radar and it's dumping 0.57in of rain/hr rain rate.





NASA Image


Dinner anyone, LOL
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Cool Aussie! :-) I'd love to see the video, but I can't watch YouTube. :-(

WunderGirl12

Uh,,, Why can't you watch Youtube?
Still no words from Millry, AL. I'm going to assume no news is good news.
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Still no words from Millry, AL. I'm going to assume no news is good news.

I was about to ask about Millry. The longer there is no word the more worrying it becomes.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Uh,,, Why can't you watch Youtube?


Mom and Dad have a program on my computer that blocks online videos and such. I'm homeschooled, so it's necessary for me to stay on task. :-P

Stranded LIers blast snowstorm response

Snow-choked Long Islanders — many still trapped in their homes — blasted the official response to Winter Storm’s wrath yesterday.

With major portions of Suffolk County still sitting under up to 3 feet of icy rubble, those living on unplowed streets were still unable to exit their front doors or back out of their driveways yesterday.

“I haven’t seen a single plow today,” fumed Carlos Carreras, 43, of Mount Sinai. “There are a lot of people stuck in their houses, including the elderly and children. This response has been unsatisfactory. They didn’t even start plowing until the storm was over.”
Other residents had uncomfortable flashbacks to Hurricane Sandy as they repeatedly dialed information hot lines only to be met with busy signals and clueless operators.

“There was a little bit of deja vu with Sandy,” said Larry Herzberg of Commack. “You had the feeling that you were forgotten. This is the worst response I can recall.”

Hundreds of cars remained strewn across Suffolk County yesterday, hampering relief efforts. Some motorists who were forced to abandon their vehicles after being caught in the storm’s grip Friday night tried to retrieve them yesterday.

“I came back out to see if I could get to it but there was no way. You can’t even get on the street,” said Miguel Herrera, 24, a landscaper from Medford.

He said he spent hours in his vehicle before walking two miles to his house during a lull in the storm.

With major roads still shut down yesterday — including a 27-mile stretch of the Long Island Expressway — Suffolk officials told drivers to stay put.

Forced to tow away cars blocking their path during cleanup efforts, cops set up a hot line for owners looking for their vehicles.

Those who opted to drive out into the chaos found themselves slipping and sliding in a game of real-life bumper cars as police reported an uptick in accidents.

Hoping to alleviate the Suffolk County crisis, Gov. Cuomo deployed more than 600 pieces of snow-removal equipment and roughly 1,000 workers to the hardest-hit areas.

The extra crews will assist overwhelmed town-government crews who are responsible for plowing Suffolk County streets.

While New York City was spared the brunt of the storm, officials yesterday reported a spate of manhole fires across Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan that resulted in hundreds of power outages.

Nemo claimed a total of nine lives across New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Connecticut.

The toll includes an 11-year-old boy who died from carbon-monoxide poisoning Saturday in Dorcester, Mass., while sitting in his dad’s car.

Nearly 50,000 Long Island Power Authority customers lost power during the storm and 2,400 were still without electricity yesterday afternoon.

LIRR service was up and running yesterday — thanks to track-clearing efforts (pictured) — except for some eastern portions of Long Island. Metro-North had two of its three lines functioning, with service north of Stamford still down.

Apart from in an increase in local trains, all subway lines were running normally yesterday and are expected to be fully functional for today’s commute.

A total of 13 school districts will be closed tomorrow on Long Island, and most Connecticut schools will also remain shuttered.

Meanwhile, residents of the five boroughs continued to revel in their powdery playground yesterday as sledders swarmed Prospect and Central parks.


1363. LargoFl
Quoting AussieStorm:

I was about to ask about Millry. The longer there is no word the more worrying it becomes.


I looked Millry, AL up on Google, and I didn't get any news at all. Pretty concerning, don't you think?

Quoting WunderGirl12:


Mom and Dad have a program on my computer that blocks online videos and such. I'm homeschooled, so it's necessary for me to stay on task. :-P



Gotta hit up some proxies -_-
1366. LargoFl
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Gotta hit up some proxies -_-


hahaha! yeah, not possible for this program. It's unbreakable.
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Mom and Dad have a program on my computer that blocks online videos and such. I'm homeschooled, so it's necessary for me to stay on task. :-P


Oh ok, Well, there is 2 lightning strike on the video. the 1st is very close and the thunder rolls for about 45seconds. The 2nd strike is a little further away and the thunder rolls for about 30seconds.
1369. LargoFl
if IT WAS COLD HERE IT WOULD BE FEET OF SNOW TOO....THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM HAS ISSUED A * FLOOD WARNING FOR... AUTAUGA COUNTY IN ALABAMA... DALLAS COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA... ELMORE COUNTY IN EAST CENTRAL ALABAMA... LOWNDES COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA... MACON COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA... MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL ALABAMA... NORTHEASTERN MARENGO COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA... PERRY COUNTY IN ALABAMA... * UNTIL 1100 AM CST * AT 659 AM CST...RADAR INDICATED THAT THREE TO FIVE INCHES OF RAIN HAS FALLEN ACROSS THE AREA SINCE SUNDAY...AND ADDITIONAL RAINFALL IS BEGINNING TO SPREAD ACROSS THE AREA. WITH MANY SMALL CREEKS AND STREAMS ELEVATED FROM PREVIOUS RAINFALL...AND THE GROUND SATURATED...RUNOFF FROM ADDITIONAL RAINFALL WILL PRODUCE FLOODING OF SOME ROADS AND STREETS ACROSS THE AREA...ESPECIALLY THOSE IN LOW LYING FLOOD PRONE AREAS WITH POOR DRAINAGE OR NEAR SMALL CREEKS AND STREAMS. * SOME LOCATIONS THAT WILL EXPERIENCE FLOODING INCLUDE...FORT DEPOSIT...HAYNEVILLE...MILLBROOK...MILSTEAD...MONT GOMERY... MOSSES...P RATTVILLE...SELMA...TUSKEGEE...VALLEY GRANDE... WETUMPKA...AUTAUGAVILLE...AND BILLINGSLEY. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CAUSE FLOODING OF SMALL CREEKS AND STREAMS...HIGHWAYS AND UNDERPASSES. ADDITIONALLY... COUNTRY ROADS AND FARMLANDS ALONG THE BANKS OF CREEKS...STREAMS AND OTHER LOW LYING AREAS ARE SUBJECT TO FLOODING. DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS SAFELY.
Perhaps the whole city of Millry is without power; I honestly have no idea. Even if Millry is okay, it's strange that there have literally been no reports from the city.
Quoting AussieStorm:

Oh ok, Well, there is 2 lightning strike on the video. the 1st is very close and the thunder rolls for about 45seconds. The 2nd strike is a little further away and the thunder rolls for about 30seconds.


Wow! Lightning is something I hear about here in FL, but not often in Austrailia.
1372. LargoFl
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Perhaps the whole city of Millry is without power; I honestly have no idea. Even if Millry is okay, it's strange that there has literally been no reports from the city.


I'm gonna agree with you on that TA. I wonder if one of our WU members lives near Millry. We should ask them.
Quoting WunderGirl12:


I looked Millry, AL up on Google, and I didn't get any news at all. Pretty concerning, don't you think?


There is nothing on Twitter either, not for 9hrs.
For those here who hasn't... check my new blog out...

BLIZZARD NEMO

I have lots of pictures and info, in addition, I added new radar, power outages information, Acknowledgments, snow fish and some new pictures... feel free to go to leave a comment

I'll put it up one more time this afternoon...
1376. LargoFl
Quoting AussieStorm:

There is nothing on Twitter either, not for 9hrs.


Nothing on Twitter? Man, this is getting STRANGE.
1378. pcola57



NASA Launching Powerful Landsat Earth-Observation Satellite Today
by Mike Wall, SPACE.com Senior Writer
Date: 11 February 2013 Time: 07:00 AM ET


NASA's latest Earth-observation satellite is set to blast off today (Feb. 11), continuing a venerable program that has been monitoring environmental change and resource use for more than four decades.

The Landsat Data Continuity Mission is scheduled to launch today at 1:02 p.m. EST (1802 GMT/10:02 a.m. PST) atop an Atlas 5 rocket from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The LDCM spacecraft will track changes in forest cover, agricultural output and urban sprawl, among other things, adding to a Earth-observation record that has been growing continuously since Landsat 1 lifted off in July 1972.

"LDCM will be the best Landsat spacecraft yet, in terms of improved capabilities and the amount of data returned," mission program executive David Jarrett, of NASA headquarters in Washington, D.C., told reporters Friday (Feb. 8) in a prelaunch press briefing. "LDCM will continue the Landsat
Quoting AussieStorm:

I was about to ask about Millry. The longer there is no word the more worrying it becomes.
Yeah, or the town isn't bothering to report because they don't need any help. It is a small town...


@leah_thames Leah Thames
USM Alumni House
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Yeah, or the town isn't bothering to report because they don't need any help. It is a small town...

But the Tornado signature went right over the town. SO maybe there is no town left or they are left without any power and communication.
1382. LargoFl
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TALLAHASSEE HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR MINOR FLOODING OF POOR
DRAINAGE AREAS IN...
GENEVA COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...
WESTERN HOUSTON COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 945 AM CST

* AT 646 AM CST...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS DETECTED AN AREA
OF STRONG AND SLOW MOVING THUNDERSTORMS OCCASIONALLY PRODUCING VERY
HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHWESTERN GENEVA COUNTY AND INTO WESTERN
HOUSTON COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA. THESE STORMS ARE PRODUCING
RAINFALL RATES OF 1 TO 2 INCHES PER HOUR...WITH AN ADDITIONAL 2 TO 3
INCHES OF RAINFALL POSSIBLE THROUGH MID MORNING.

THIS ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAINFALL WILL PRODUCE MINOR FLOODING OF LOW
LYING AREAS AND ADDITIONALLY COULD CAUSE SMALL STREAMS AND CREEKS TO
RISE TO BANKFULL.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM HEAVY RAINFALL WILL CAUSE ELEVATED LEVELS ON
SMALL CREEKS AND STREAMS...AND PONDING OF WATER ON COUNTRY ROADS AND
FARMLAND ALONG THE BANKS OF CREEKS AND STREAMS.

PONDING OF WATER ON ROADS AND HIGHWAYS IS EXPECTED. DRIVERS SHOULD
REDUCE SPEEDS TO AVOID POSSIBLE HYDROPLANING.

REPORT FLOODING OR FLOOD DAMAGE TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN
TALLAHASSEE AT (8 5 0) 9 4 2 8 8 3 3. OR...YOU MAY CONTACT THE
NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR YOUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THEY WILL RELAY YOUR REPORT TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
1383. VR46L
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Mom and Dad have a program on my computer that blocks online videos and such. I'm homeschooled, so it's necessary for me to stay on task. :-P



I dont understand the home schooling thing , do you get to met friends of your own age?

Are your parents strict?
1384. LargoFl
Quoting AussieStorm:

But the Tornado signature went right over the town. SO maybe there is no town left or they are left without any power and communication.


It's a very small town, and spread over a very wide area, so a tornado, if it hit, would only affect a small fraction of it, although all the power might be out.

From Wiki

As of the census[2] of 2000, there were 615 people, 262 households, and 175 families residing in the town. The population density was 79.7 people per square mile (30.8/km²). There were 301 housing units at an average density of 39.0 per square mile (15.1/km²).
As noted, there appears to be what might be a subtropical or tropical cyclone developing in the Southern Atlantic.

1387. pcola57
Homes wrecked, dozen hurt in Hattiesburg, Mississippi tornado; Southern Miss campus damaged

HATTIESBURG, Mississippi -- A tornado tore through Hattiesburg on Sunday as part of a wave of severe storms that downed trees, damaged buildings and injured more than a dozen people.

The twister traveled down one of Hattiesburg's main streets and mangled homes, commercial buildings and structures on the campus of the University of Southern Mississippi. Emergency officials said at least 10 people were injured in surrounding Forrest County and three were hurt to the west in Marion County, but they weren't aware of any deaths.

Mississippi Emergency Management Agency spokesman Greg Flynn said it appears that a single tornado caused the damage in those two counties and Lamar County. Hundreds of homes are damaged in Forrest County, along with a couple dozen in the other two. Gov. Phil Bryant declared a state of emergency.

Flynn said the sheer scope of the damage was slowing their assessment.

"The problem is, it was so strong that there's so much debris that there's a lot of areas they haven't been able to get to yet," he said.

On the campus of the university, trees were snapped in half around the heavily damaged Alumni House where part of the roof was ripped away. Windows in a nearby building were blown out, and heavy equipment worked to clear streets nearby in a heavy rain after the worst of the weather had passed.

The university released a statement saying no one was hurt but that it was under a state of emergency, anyone away from campus should stay away until further notice.

East of campus, 47-year-old Cindy Bullock was at home with her husband and dog, a terrier mix named Vinnie, when she heard the tornado coming. They ran to a hallway and covered their heads. It wasn't long before the windows in the kitchen and bedroom exploded. The storm stripped all the shingles off the roof and left holes in it, while knocking over a large pine tree in the yard.

After dark, the Bullocks were trying to arrange their stuff inside so it wouldn't get wet from the dripping water.

"I just looked out the window and I heard the rumbling. It sounded like a train. We ran to the hall, and the kitchen windows and the windows in the bedroom exploded. It happened pretty fast," she said.

There were large trees blocking the road all through her neighborhood, and several of the houses were hit by falling trees. Her friend was staying with them after the friend's apartment took a direct hit from a falling tree.

Forrest County Sheriff Billy McGee says 10 or 15 people were injured by the tornado that slammed Hattiesburg and other parts of the county — but none of the injuries was serious.

He says, "Most of our injuries have been walking wounded."

To the west, Marion County emergency director Aaron Greer says three injuries have been reported in the community of Pickwick, about seven miles south of Columbia. He says two people were taken to hospitals, but the third didn't have the injury examined.

Greer says one mobile home was destroyed, three other structures have major damage and several have minor damage.

Bryant plans to go to Hattiesburg on Monday to check out damage in the city and at USM, his alma mater, spokesman Mick Bullock said.

On Sunday night, John and Katherine Adams were cleaning up around their one-story white house where the storm punched holes in the roof, busted windows and completely destroyed the back porch. The couple was at home with their 7- and 3-year-old daughters when the tornado passed next to their house.

All through the neighborhood, houses and vehicles were damaged by falling trees.

"We're safe, and that's all that matters," said Katherine Adams, 46.

John Adams, who's in the building supply business, said he was surprised to see broken boards that appeared to be from new construction in his yard because there are no homes being built nearby.

"We've got stuff around here; I don't even know where it came from," he said.

Beware of strong language in video below.

1388. LargoFl
Quoting AussieStorm:

But the Tornado signature went right over the town. SO maybe there is no town left or they are left without any power and communication.
Tornado signature doesn't alway mean tornado is on ground, but it was a strong chance of tornado being on ground when it went over Millry. Maybe there's no town left and is left without power/communication or tornado wasn't on ground or tornado missed the town to north. Right now, I just hope they're okay.
next winter winter storm for the south, especially for New Mexico, TX Panhandle and eastern Oklahoma

1391. LargoFl
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
FLASH FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
749 AM CST MON FEB 11 2013

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TALLAHASSEE HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR...
EASTERN GENEVA COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...
WESTERN HOUSTON COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...
INCLUDING THE CITY OF DOTHAN

* UNTIL 945 AM CST

* AT 739 AM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED
TO INDICATE A LARGE AREA OF SLOW MOVING THUNDERSTORMS PRODUCING
VERY HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS GENEVA COUNTY AND INTO HOUSTON COUNTY
IN SOUTHEAST ALABAMA. THESE SLOW MOVING THUNDERSTORMS WERE MOVING
EAST NORTHEAST AROUND 10 MPH. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN GENEVA AND
HOUSTON COUNTIES HAVE REPORTED FLOODING OCCURRING ACROSS THE
WARNED AREA THIS MORNING. ADDITIONAL HEAVY RAINFALL WILL LIKELY
INCREASE THE SEVERITY OF THE ONGOING FLOODING.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
SLOCOMB...TAYLOR...COTTONWOOD...DOTHAN...COWARTS.. .KINSEY...GENEVA
AND WEBB
Subtropical storm Arani 2011 (March 10-16) was the last storm of the South Atlantic basin

Max winds: 50 mph
Pressure: 989 mb



all according to Wikipedia
1393. pcola57
Round 2 for the SE today..





Quoting yonzabam:


It's a very small town, and spread over a very wide area, so a tornado, if it hit, would only affect a small fraction of it, although all the power might be out.

From Wiki

As of the census[2] of 2000, there were 615 people, 262 households, and 175 families residing in the town. The population density was 79.7 people per square mile (30.8/km²). There were 301 housing units at an average density of 39.0 per square mile (15.1/km²).

But I wonder how wide the tornado was. I think I read it was a mile wide. It looked huge on radar.
The Weather Channel‏@weatherchannel

BREAKING: National Weather Service reports a new total of 63 injuries and 300 homes/buildings damaged in Hattiesburg #tornado. No deaths.
Quoting AussieStorm:


@leah_thames Leah Thames
USM Alumni House
Jim Cantore think this picture is a proof of EF3 damage, but we won't know the final rating until later. Just remember, tornado MAY had been stronger later in life between Hattiesburg and Millry. The couplet looked the strongest on radar about 30-45 minutes before hitting Millry, near the town Clara, MS.
Quoting VR46L:


I dont understand the home schooling thing , do you get to met friends of your own age?

Are your parents strict?


Yes I get to meet friends my age. :-) They are WAY more consistent with our family values in homeschool. I like it. :-) My parents are strict enough to make sure I am well behaved. However, they let me do my own intrests like going to concerts that I might want to go to. (With them of course)
1398. LargoFl
H attiesburg tornado on Hardy st..................
Quoting Luisport:
The Weather Channel‏@weatherchannel

BREAKING: National Weather Service reports a new total of 63 injuries and 300 homes/buildings damaged in Hattiesburg #tornado. No deaths.
Didn't expected that many injuries. That city is very blessed to not have any fatalities.
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Yes I get to meet friends my age. :-) They are WAY more consistent with our family values in homeschool. I like it. :-) My parents are strict enough to make sure I am well behaved. However, they let me do my own intrests like going to concerts that I might want to go to. (With them of course)


wel you forgot being here besides going to concerts..
1401. 900MB
NYC a swampy slushy mess this am. What's the word on storms the next 10 days?
1402. LargoFl
1403. LargoFl
Quoting 900MB:
NYC a swampy slushy mess this am. What's the word on storms the next 10 days?
met said rain changing back to snow again
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


wel you forgot being here besides going to concerts..


True. Main Point - they let me do what I want to do, as long as it is Safe and reasonable. thats all. :-)
Quoting 900MB:
NYC a swampy slushy mess this am. What's the word on storms the next 10 days?


It says snow on Feb 16 but idk why people say it's going to rain if that huge storm impacts us...
1406. VR46L
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Yes I get to meet friends my age. :-) They are WAY more consistent with our family values in homeschool. I like it. :-) My parents are strict enough to make sure I am well behaved. However, they let me do my own intrests like going to concerts that I might want to go to. (With them of course)


Cool !!

I guess that makes for a close family !

Do they mind you being on the internet , do they monitor that you are blogging ?
Quoting WunderGirl12:


True. Main Point - they let me do what I want to do, as long as it is Safe and reasonable. thats all. :-)


Ohh, and I've met quite a few friends here on WU
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Ohh, and I've met quite a few friends here on WU


so did I. You are one of them

Btw.. Now I hit comment 4000...
Quoting WunderGirl12:


True. Main Point - they let me do what I want to do, as long as it is Safe and reasonable. thats all. :-)

Youtube is safe and reasonable. You miss out on so many good weather video's
1410. LargoFl
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


It says snow on Feb 16 but idk why people say it's going to rain if that huge storm impacts us...
Quoting VR46L:


Cool !!

I guess that makes for a close family !

Do they mind you being on the internet , do they monitor that you are blogging ?


I'm on the internet all of the time, since school is internet based. (www.k12.com) They don't mind be blogging, since I usally keep it weather related or writing related. (Check out RobDaHood's and My blog for my descriptve essay on the redwood forest! I'm gonna post it in a minute or two.)
Damage to a building at University of Southern Mississippi.

Quoting AussieStorm:

Youtube is safe and reasonable. You miss out on so many good weather video's


There are things mom and dad don't want me to see without parental supervision, like South Park and Key and Peele Obama Anger Translator...lol
GFS is forecasting another one for Sunday

1415. LargoFl
.NOW...
THROUGH 1015 AM...A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS WILL AFFECT THE FLORIDA
KEYS...AS WELL AS NEARSHORE AND OFFSHORE WATERS SURROUNDING THE
ISLAND CHAIN. THESE SHOWERS WILL MOVE TO THE NORTHWEST AT AROUND 15
KNOTS. OVER LAND...THE MOST LIKELY AREA TO SEE LIGHT RAIN WILL BE
FROM MARATHON TO KEY COLONY BEACH. NO MORE THAN A TRACE OF RAINFALL
IS EXPECTED IN ANY SHOWER.

$$
BS
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


so did I. You are one of them

Btw.. Now I hit comment 4000...


Thanks. you too are a good friend. :-)
University of Southern Mississippi.

Campus closed on Monday; Students off Monday-Tuesday for Mardi Gras
Campus will be closed on Monday. Employees should plan to return to work on Tuesday, with the exception of Physical Plant and all residence hall employees, including custodial staff, which should report as scheduled on Monday.

The university campus remains in a state of emergency, with damage to the Jazz Station, Mannoni Performing Arts Center, Ogletree Alumni House and Elam Arms (map). But no injuries have been reported.
Quoting FunnelVortex:
GFS is forecasting another one for Sunday



this one could be rain for southern New England (NYC)
1419. VR46L
Quoting WunderGirl12:


I'm on the internet all of the time, since school is internet based. (www.k12.com) They don't mind be blogging, since I usally keep it weather related or writing related. (Check out RobDaHood's and My blog for my descriptve essay on the redwood forest! I'm gonna post it in a minute or two.)


Just be careful out there on the internet , A young lady like yourself could be fodder to unscrupulous older people on the internet.

Will check out your blog in a while !!
Quoting VR46L:


Just be careful out there on the internet , A young lady like yourself could be fodder to unscrupulous older people on the internet.


Tell me about it....

Ohh, and btw, the blog post I posted is not my hurricane research report. Just a descriptive essay on the Redwood Forest. :-)
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


this one could be rain for southern New England (NYC)


It looks like snow for upstate New York, and some Lake Effect.
Quoting FunnelVortex:


It looks like snow for upstate New York, and some Lake Effect.


What is Lake Effect? :-/ o__O
It's freeze raining here

(is that right said?)
Quoting WunderGirl12:


What is Lake Effect? :-/ o__O


snow originating from lakes through a process..especially in the Great Lakes when it's cold

Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
It's freeze raining here

(is that right said?)

Not sure, but we're also getting freezing rain and sleet up here now.
Quoting WunderGirl12:


What is Lake Effect? :-/ o__O

I see the USM has info links on
WEATHER SAFETY
Hurricane Preparedness (Mississippi Emergency Management Agency)
Hurricane Info (Red Cross)
Flood Safety (National Weather Service)
Flood Info (FEMA)

But nothing for Tornadoes. Maybe that will change now after yesterday.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


snow originating from lakes through a process..especially in the Great Lakes when it's cold



Oh okay. thanks! :-)


Quoting AussieStorm:

I see the USM has info on
WEATHER SAFETY
Hurricane Preparedness (Mississippi Emergency Management Agency)
Hurricane Info (Red Cross)
Flood Safety (National Weather Service)
Flood Info (FEMA)

But nothing for Tornadoes. Maybe that will change now after yesterday.


Thanks Aussie! :-)
Cyclone Gino seems to be organizing:



1430. VR46L
Quoting WunderGirl12:


Tell me about it....

Ohh, and btw, the blog post I posted is not my hurricane research report. Just a descriptive essay on the Redwood Forest. :-)


I Read it !
it is a terrific piece.. look forward to reading much more of your work !!
I hope this snow could melt fat enough or at least for the most part if new snow is coming out of these storms by end of week.
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Not sure, but we're also getting freezing rain and sleet up here now.


How much snow did you get up there?
Quoting VR46L:


I Read it !
it is a terrific piece.. look forward to reading much more of your work !!


I appreciate it. Thanks!

1434. VR46L
Quoting WunderGirl12:


I appreciate it. Thanks!



Your welcome!!!
Still can't believe this guy wasn't hurt... he truly escaped death.

Link
I've seen some more pictures of the damage in the south... terrible
1437. 900MB
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


It says snow on Feb 16 but idk why people say it's going to rain if that huge storm impacts us...


Thanks to you and Largo. Its Feb, so I'm all about snow! Bring it! Hope for Thurs and Sat storms!


Hey Wash... Looks good for snow!
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Hey Wash... Looks good for snow!
I can't see the pic.But anyway this can't be!!.I have somewhere to go on Saturday.Noooo..The Sandy flashbacks are beginning...
Boston Snowicane video.
Quoting washingtonian115:
I can't see the pic.But anyway this can't be!!.I have somewhere to go on Saturday.Noooo..The Sandy flashbacks are beginning...


It's for Wednesday night into Thursday morning... 12Z NAM
Today in Science History: In 1847 Thomas Edison, inventor & holder of 1,093 patents, is born.

I'm going to bed. Goodnight all.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


It's for Wednesday night into Thursday morning... 12Z NAM
If that comes true then the kids are going to be happy.How much is it calling for?.I worried because temps are suppose to be in the low to mid 40's so the snow won't stick.
Quoting washingtonian115:
If that comes true then the kids are going to be happy.How much is it calling for?.I worried because temps are suppose to be in the low to mid 40's so the snow won't stick.


Not sure. My guess right now is 3-6 inches.
Quoting AussieStorm:
Today in Science History: In 1847 Thomas Edison, inventor & holder of 1,093 patents, is born.

I'm going to bed. Goodnight all.


Good Night Aussie! :-) Stay safe!
12Z NAM.. over half a foot in Connecticut, east Penn and over 5" all across NYC . Nothing for southern New Jersey, Philly area or Delaware.

GFS...Over half a foot of snow over Philly. Over 4" all across central/Northern NJ into NYC, CT and over 5" in Rhode Island and southeast Mass.

Currently working on a map to reflect this...give me about 20 mins
Quoting AussieStorm:
Today in Science History: In 1847 Thomas Edison, inventor & holder of 1,093 patents, is born.

I'm going to bed. Goodnight all.


Assuming a 50 year working life, that's almost 2 patents a month for 50 years. Quite amazing.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Not sure. My guess right now is 3-6 inches.
CWG and othe local weather forecasters don't have a clue on what's going to happen.Most think that it will be all rain for us.CWG has been on the ball lately.I'm hoping they are wrong.I don't like coming into work valentines day to see people sob over their love ones.Yuck.
Quoting AussieStorm:
I wonder if Gro remembers when the last pope resigned?


He WAS the last pope to resign ;)
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #2
TEMPETE TROPICALE MODEREE GINO (08-20122013)
16:00 PM RET February 11 2013
=======================================

At 12:00 PM UTC, Moderate Tropical Storm Gino (995 hPa) located at 13.1S 81.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west southwest at 10 knots.

Gale Force Winds
==================
20 NM radius from the center

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
80 NM radius from the center, extending up to 100 NM in the eastern semi-circle

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5/2.5/D1.0/24 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
========================
12 HRS: 15.3S 79.2E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)
24 HRS: 16.9S 78.3E - 50 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
48 HRS: 19.3S 77.8E - 80 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)
72 HRS: 22.6S 78.8E - 85 knots (CYCLONE Tropical)

Additional Information
======================
Convection has consolidated during last night and after a slight weakening of convection activity in the morning, a new thrust of convection helps the formation of central dense overcast seen on the last satellite imagery.

The system is tracking west southwestwards on the northern edge of the low levels ridge, it is expected to track southwestwards as a ridge builds in the east of the system at middle level. On Wednesday and beyond, the system is forecast to recurve east of 77.0E under the combined effect of the ridge in the east and an arrival through in the southwest.

On this track, conditions are favorable to intensification, with the weakening easterly to northeasterly constraint on Monday, then under the ridge axis on Tuesday. On Wednesday the building of a strong polar outflow is expected to intensify the system until the minimum stage of intense tropical cyclone. Energetic potential is good up to 20.0S. On Thursday and beyond the system undergo a strengthening northwesterly vertical wind shear.
Quoting washingtonian115:
CWG and othe local weather forecasters don't have a clue on what's going to happen.Most think that it will be all rain for us.CWG has been on the ball lately.I hoping they are wrong.I don't like coming into work valentines day to see people sob over their love ones.Yuck.


They seem decently optimistic on the AMWX forum, but then again they do have the Euro stuff that we don't. And I don't have that problem, I see my girlfriend after school every day.
Quoting WxGeekVA:


They seem decently optimistic on the AMWX forum, but then again they do have the Euro stuff that we don't. And I don't have that problem, I see my girlfriend after school every day.
if we don't see snow on Wensday then Saturday.At one point the GFS was showing 7-10 inches for us.Henry from hypuweather thinks we'll see something.
I can't believe we haven't heard anything from Millry, Alabama. If the town is in good shape, surely they would've said something.

I'm guessing that either that tornado moved just north of the town, but knocked out power, or the town is completely leveled and all communication was lost.

Those are the only reasons that I can think of why we haven't hear anything about the town yet.
flurries and snow in my area, hoping we can get that band moved down 50 or so miles in the next few days:



Btw the GFS has 24+ incehs in Massachusetts again:








this is the first run to have this major snow from the noreaster.
and then 10 days:
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
flurries and snow in my area, hoping we can get that band moved down 50 or so miles in the next few days:



Btw the GFS has 24 incehs in Massachusetts again:








this is the first run to have this major snow from the noreaster.
We here in D.C get absolutely nothing again.Is that for Saturday?.I'm hoping that plays out.
Quoting Ameister12:
I can't believe we haven't heard anything from Millry, Alabama. If the town is in good shape, surely they would've said something.

I'm guessing that either that tornado moved just north of the town, but knocked out power, or the town is completely leveled and all communication was lost.

Those are the only reasons that I can think of why we haven't hear anything about the town yet.
Spann just responded to one of follower's question on Millry, AL:

@spann

@CentralALInfo that is basically a wide spot in the road... Very few people live there. Will have to wait on storm surveys
I'm kinda mad.
Almost no chance of significant severe weather.
1460. pcola57
Astronomy Picture of the Day



N11: Star Clouds of the LMC
Image Credit: NASA, ESA, J. Lake (Pomfret School

Explanation: Massive stars, abrasive winds, mountains of dust, and energetic light sculpt one of the largest and most picturesque regions of star formation in the Local Group of Galaxies. Known as N11, the region is visible on the upper right of many images of its home galaxy, the Milky Way neighbor known as the Large Magellanic Clouds (LMC). The above image was taken for scientific purposes by the Hubble Space Telescope and reprocessed for artistry by an amateur to win the Hubble's Hidden Treasures competition. Although the section imaged above is known as NGC 1763, the entire N11 emission nebula is second in LMC size only to 30 Doradus. Studying the stars in N11 has shown that it actually houses three successive generations of star formation. Compact globules of dark dust housing emerging young stars are also visible around the image.
Just found this on campus of Southern Miss... wow. This is easily EF2/EF3 damage. Btw, SMTTT = Southern Miss To The Top

1462. nymore
I have a little rant this morning. I was out this morning helping the neighbors plow out which went basically fine, but I thought since our rural county road had not been plowed and I have a large snow blower attachment on a Bobcat I would make a couple of passes down it to the main road to let people out. Now this should have been easy enough except for the fact that some morons think their little cars or crossover 4x4's go through what someone with a big 4x4 can go through. You can not make it so why even try, all you did for me and the county plow guy this morning was make our lives a living hell with your stupidity. You would think considering where we live you would either have a vehicle equipped for this sort of thing or have common sense enough to just wait till your plowed out. End of rant!
WINTER WEATHER UPDATE
________________________

A potentially significant snowstorm for the upcoming days... I blended the GFS with NAM..

NAM shows significant snow for Northern PA, nothern NJ, NYC, all across CT into RI
and eastern Mass.

GFS focuses more on significant snow for the Philadelphia area, a little less for NYC, CT and RI




click image for larger picture.
Where is everyone?.

this is the first run to have this major snow from the noreaster.


Im still trying to confirm if it's going to be rain or snow along the coast for that one.


SPC AC 110542

DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1142 PM CST SUN FEB 10 2013

VALID 121200Z - 131200Z

...NO SVR TSTM AREAS FORECAST...

...GULF COAST...

THREAT FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS DURING THE DAY2 PERIOD WILL BE TIED
CLOSELY TO THE NWD MOVEMENT OF EFFECTIVE FRONTAL ZONE ALONG THE GULF
COAST. LATEST GFS/NAM BOTH SUGGEST A WEAK SFC LOW SHOULD EVOLVE
NEAR THE UPPER TX COAST THEN TRACK EWD ACROSS LA DURING THE EVENING
HOURS BEFORE SHIFTING INLAND ACROSS SRN MS INTO SRN AL. GIVEN THE
VERY STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR THAT WILL OVERSPREAD MUCH OF THE GULF
STATES THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE THE
THERMODYNAMIC ADJUSTMENT/RECOVERY WITHIN THE FAVORABLY SHEARED
ENVIRONMENT.

ONE CONCERN/LIMITING FACTOR FOR SIGNIFICANT DESTABILIZATION WILL BE
THE EPISODIC CONVECTIVE EVENTS THAT SHOULD BE NOTED ALONG THE
STATIONARY FRONT THROUGH THE PERIOD. MULTIPLE TSTM CLUSTERS COULD
RETARD NWD RETURN OF MODIFIED MARITIME TROPICAL AIRMASS INLAND.
LATEST NAM SOUNDINGS SUGGEST RECOVERY WILL BE LIMITED TO NEAR THE
COAST LATE IN THE PERIOD WHEN SFC-BASED CONVECTION WILL BE POSSIBLE.
PRIOR TO THE WARM SECTOR MOVING INLAND IT APPEARS ELEVATED
BUOYANCY/LAPSE RATES WILL PROVE SUFFICIENT FOR A FEW ROBUST ELEVATED
TSTMS CAPABLE OF GENERATING MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL NORTH OF THE
FRONT. DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS WHEN SFC-BASED UPDRAFTS ARE MORE
PROBABLE THERE IS MORE CONCERN FOR A FEW SUPERCELLS AND AN ATTENDANT
WIND/TORNADO THREAT
. FOR NOW WILL MAINTAIN 5 PERCENT SEVERE PROBS
DUE TO THE UNCERTAINTY OF SIGNIFICANT INSTABILITY MOVING INLAND.

..DARROW.. 02/11/2013
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
flurries and snow in my area, hoping we can get that band moved down 50 or so miles in the next few days:



Btw the GFS has 24+ incehs in Massachusetts again:








this is the first run to have this major snow from the noreaster.



Im still trying to confirm if it's going to be rain or snow along the coast for that one.
this is a monster storm!!!


@weatherchannel

Just in: NWS reports 19 injuries in Lamar County from #Hattiesburg tornado, bringing the injury total to 82. Fortunately, still no deaths.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
this is a monster storm!!!


When is this suppose to occur.
Quoting washingtonian115:
When is this suppose to occur.


the monster one for this weekend after the one for Wed/Thu... we are going to get hammered this week!
1472. LargoFl
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Just found this on campus of Southern Miss... wow. This is easily EF2/EF3 damage. Btw, SMTTT = Southern Miss To The Top

OMG those poor people there..and NWS is worried about even more of them next few days as the front stalls
1473. LargoFl
Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service Taunton Massachusetts
1044 am EST Monday Feb 11 2013




Friday into this weekend...large model spread leads this portion
of the forecast in low confidence in the details. 11/00z guidance
showed a cold front moving through the region late Friday with
secondary coastal cyclogenesis occurring Saturday in the European model (ecmwf).
Favored HPC solution for this portion of the forecast...which
leans toward the European model (ecmwf) solution.

1475. LargoFl
1 week from today..snow down to maryland maybe DC too..
1460. pcola57 10:30 AM EST on February 11, 2013

Thanks for the pic. The infinite size of the cosmic universe and that common "grain of sand of a beach" analogy for the Earth (or the Milky Way Galaxy for that matter), truly boggles the mind.

Waiting on Doc's next Blog.
1477. LargoFl
GFS for tomorrow,......................
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


the monster one for this weekend after the one for Wed/Thu... we are going to get hammered this week!
This cannot be good...Temps are suppose to be in its low to mid 30's to on Saturday.So we'll more than likely have snow.This cannot be happening!.
1479. LargoFl
...................Hattiesburg Tornado......
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting Ameister12:
I can't believe we haven't heard anything from Millry, Alabama. If the town is in good shape, surely they would've said something.

I'm guessing that either that tornado moved just north of the town, but knocked out power, or the town is completely leveled and all communication was lost.

Those are the only reasons that I can think of why we haven't hear anything about the town yet.


The town has only around 700 inhabitants, but they're spread out throughout 7 square miles, which is an odd sort of 'town'.
1482. hydrus