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Heavy snow and largest Christmas tornado outbreak on record slam U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:33 PM GMT on December 26, 2012

The most impressive U.S. December snowstorm in two years is powering across the eastern third of the country today, bringing blizzard conditions to Indiana and Ohio and severe thunderstorms to eastern North Carolina. The 28 preliminary tornadoes that touched down yesterday will likely put December 25, 2012 in first place for largest Christmas tornado outbreak in U.S. history. Fortunately, the tornadoes are not being blamed for any deaths, though strong thunderstorm winds have killed two people due to falling trees. Dozens of people have been injured due to the severe weather--25 in Mississippi alone. The parent storm has dumped more than 8 inches of snow in six states--Arkansas, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas. According to the latest NWS Storm Summary, the greatest snowfall so far has been at Morrilton, Arkansas, where 13.5" has fallen. Tornado watches are posted today in Eastern North Carolina, where NOAA's Storm Prediction Center has indicated a "Slight Risk" of severe weather exists. This is one level of alert below the "Moderate Risk" of severe weather that existed on Christmas Day for Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. As of 2 pm EST on December 26, no tornadoes had been reported for the day, though several tornado warnings had been issued for North Carolina.


Figure 1. Winter Storm Euclid at 1:25 pm EST Wednesday, December 26, 2012. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.


Figure 2. Preliminary storm reports from Christmas Day, 2012, from NOAA's Storm Prediction Center show as many as 28 tornado reports.

History of Christmas-time tornado outbreaks
Serious tornado outbreaks in the winter are uncommon, particularly so during Christmas. According to the Tornado History Project there have been eight Christmases since 1950 with tornadoes. The most recent Christmas with tornadoes was in 2006, when six twisters touched down in Florida and Georgia. The most tornadoes ever recorded on Christmas Day was twelve, back in 1969. With 28 preliminary tornadoes reported yesterday, it appears very likely that December 25, 2012 will rank in first place for most tornadoes ever recorded on Christmas Day. It is possible that the tornado that hit Maxie, MS yesterday will be rated an EF-3, tying it for strongest Christmas tornado on record. The strongest Christmas tornadoes on record were F-3s that occurred in 1964 and 1969.


Video 1. A tornado is caught on video from the top of a Holiday Inn crossing through Mobile, Alabama on December 25, 2012. Preliminary NWS damage surveys have rated this at least an EF-1 tornado. Here is another YouTube video of the Mobile tornado.

Wunderground meteorologists Angela Fritz and Shaun Tanner are also blogging on this impressive storm, and have more info on the history of Christmas-time tornado outbreaks.

Jeff Masters
White Out
White Out
Less than a week after a severe dust storm hit this area , a pretty strong winter storm hit . From 'Brown Out' to 'White Out'.
A Snowy Morning
A Snowy Morning
Christmas Sunset
Christmas Sunset
After the storm

Winter Weather Tornado

The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

Reader Comments

Thanks Dr. Masters.
Nice to have you back...thanks
Thank You Dr Masters .
Muchas gracis, Chief!
Thanks Dr. Masters.
~Thanks Doctor

~That sure has been some bad weather
thanks Dr Masters
Thank you, Dr. Masters.
It's very windy here now.If it were snow falling we would surely be in a blizzard.
Thanks Dr. Masters.
Thank you Dr Masters for the new blog....I thought I was going to have to tackle some of my friends that were getting antsy....
Thanks Doc....
Good afternoon everyone, and thanks for the new blog Doc! This is my snow map for New England for tonight and tomorrow:

Still some nasty looking areas of weather on the East Coast

The bird in the photo looks very much like a waxwing, though very different plumage from the European waxwing, that we see here.

They're not indigenous to the UK, but they occasionally 'irrupt' from Scandinavia to the UK in winter. Usually, when this happens, they're only seen on the east coast.

Only time I've ever seen a waxwing was in 1965, when there was a big irruption to the UK. I was in the physics class at school, and we could see about 20 of them picking berries off the trees out the window.

European waxwing:




Thank you for the new blog Dr. Masters. Friends of mine were burried in snowfall last week in Madison Wisconsin. Glad I was home here in Fort Myers :)
Quoting yonzabam:
The bird in the photo looks very much like a waxwing, though very different plumage from the European waxwing, that we see here.

They're not indigenous to the UK, but they occasionally 'irrupt' from Scandinavia to the UK in winter. Usually, when this happens, they're only seen on the east coast.

Only time I've ever seen a waxwing was in 1965, when there was a big irruption to the UK. I was in the physics class at school, and we could see about 20 of them picking berries off the trees out the window.

European waxwing:




If you are referring to the red bird in the above photos, those are called Cardinals. They are probably the same species of your waxwing.
My electricity has been restored:)

That line brought 39mph winds here. Lost my power for 45mins or so. Just north of me~ Suntree, South Merritt Island & Satellite Beach looked hit a bit harder.
a fair bit of the US has a covering of snow

Quoting VR46L:
a fair bit of the US has a covering of snow



That's a map from yesterday .. snow coverage has expanded during the overnight hours and today ..
This includes me and it is snowing at a good rate outside.



MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2238
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0229 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...SRN LOWER MI...FAR NRN INDIANA

CONCERNING...HEAVY SNOW

VALID 262029Z - 262330Z

SUMMARY...BANDS OF SNOW WITH RATES LOCALLY APPROACHING 1 IN/HR WILL
CONTINUE THROUGH AROUND 23Z...WITH SNOW RATES EXPECTED TO DECREASE
THEREAFTER.

DISCUSSION...BANDS OF MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY SNOW ROUGHLY ALIGN
WITH A NE/SW-ORIENTED AXIS OF 850-MB CONFLUENCE...NW OF THE CENTER
OF DEEP LOW PRESSURE OVER THE ERN CONUS. RADAR MOSAIC IMAGERY AS OF
AROUND 2020Z INDICATES ONE BAND CENTERED 30 NE MTC TO 25 SW
JXN...ANOTHER BAND CENTERED 30 NNE LAN TO 10 SW AZO...AND YET
ANOTHER BAND CENTERED 20 SW GRR TO 20 SW SBN. SFC OBSERVATIONS
SUGGEST THE RECENT OCCURRENCE OF HEAVY SNOW AT PTK AND YIP...AND
SNOW RATES LOCALLY APPROACHING 1 IN/HR MAY OCCUR WITH THE SNOW
BANDS. AS THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW GRADUALLY BACKS WHILE THE CYCLONE
SHIFTS NEWD TO THE SE OF THE AREA...SNOW BANDS MAY GRADUALLY PIVOT
AND BECOME ORIENTED MORE NNE/SSW. HOWEVER...AFTER 23Z...FORCING FOR
ASCENT ACCOMPANYING THE CYCLONE WILL BECOME INCREASINGLY REMOVED
FROM THE AREA WITH A DECREASE IN THE INFLUX OF LOW/MID-LEVEL
MOISTURE. AS SUCH...SNOW RATES ARE EXPECTED TO DECREASE AFTER 23Z.

..COHEN.. 12/26/2012


ATTN...WFO...DTX...IWX...GRR...

LAT...LON 42918254 42578271 42018388 41648472 41458584 41458663
41838667 42538596 43098460 43178353 42918254
A 24 hour animation of Bradford Pa weather:

Link

Just a normal day until about 12:45, And then FOOP!
Quoting whitewabit:


That's a map from yesterday .. snow coverage has expanded during the overnight hours and today ..


Sorry that was the latest one on the site . Then there is even more than I thought ....
Breaking News Storm‏@breakingstorm

New York Governor Cuomo announces activation of the State Emergency Operations Center to monitor the storm and emergency needs - @YNNAlbany
Quoting VR46L:


Sorry that was the latest one on the site . Then there is even more than I thought ....


That map is probably the latest available ... all of Illinois and Indiana and the northern part of eastern Kentucky is now snow covered along with parts of Arkansas and Missouri
Quoting VR46L:
a fair bit of the US has a covering of snow



That actually well underestimates the actual snow cover...
Quoting whitewabit:


That map is probably the latest available ... all of Illinois and Indiana and the northern part of eastern Kentucky is now snow covered along with parts of Arkansas and Missouri


Thanks For the infomation!!! New to following Winter weather on that side of the ocean.
Quoting whitewabit:


That map is probably the latest available ... all of Illinois and Indiana and the northern part of eastern Kentucky is now snow covered along with parts of Arkansas and Missouri


North Texas, Oklahoma...


Snow Depth: 06Z 12/24/2012 (left) / 06Z 12/26/2012 (right)
NOHRSC National Snow Analyses
Click pic for a large animation. When the sun comes up you can see the trail of snow across the TX, OK, AR & such.
Quoting washingtonian115:
It's very windy here now.If it were snow falling we would surely be in a blizzard.

ikr here too!
Talked to BIL just south of Indy and they have had 9 inches of snow in the last 6 hours .. stated that roads were very bad .. taking him 2 hours and 45 minutes to go 30 miles from work to home ..
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Must-see video of the Mobile tornado from a local Walgreens.


Very intense there.. In the first one, you can see folks oblivious to the danger driving... scary.

Yonz, this is a Cardinal

Quoting beell:


Snow Depth: 06Z 12/24/2012 (left) / 06Z 12/26/2012 (right)
NOHRSC National Snow Analyses


Quoting galvestonhurricane:


Thanks !!! Way more over last 24 hrs ...
Nothing whatsoever to do with weather, but nonetheless a kick to watch... or several.

Kinda surprised no one's made mention of the humongous tsunami rolling over Geneva
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Must-see video of the Mobile tornado from a local Walgreens.


About 20 seconds in there's a couple of folks sitting in a maroon car with the windshield wipers on. I don't know if they were oblivious to the oncoming tornado or thrill seekers. My butt would've been indoors had there been enough time to make a run for it.
Quoting aspectre:
Nothing whatsoever to do with weather, but nonetheless a kick to watch... or several.


Then why did you post it since it has no bearing on weather ??
Quoting StAugustineFL:


About 20 seconds in there's a couple of folks sitting in a maroon car with the windshield wipers on. I don't know if they were oblivious to the oncoming tornado or thrill seekers. My butt would've been indoors had there been enough time to make a run for it.


I don't know about you Aug, but that's the last place I want to be in when a tornado is bearing down on you!
IMHO
Quoting VR46L:
a fair bit of the US has a covering of snow

Quoting VR46L:
a fair bit of the US has a covering of snow

in the years this happens, the freezing cold temps are able to sink further southward,I am afraid the south is in for a very cold and wintery next month or so..even here into florida
Quoting FtMyersgal:


I don't know about you Aug, but that's the last place I want to be in when a tornado is bearing down on you!
IMHO


I don't think they thought they had time .. may not have been aware of the tornado until it was right on top of the store ..
very windy now but the sun is out and its getting cooler
7-day for the Tampa Bay area.....................
Quoting LargoFl:
very windy now but the sun is out and its getting cooler
175mph seems doubtful.
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD VA
417 PM EST WED DEC 26 2012

VAZ099-100-262200-
ACCOMACK VA-NORTHAMPTON VA-
417 PM EST WED DEC 26 2012

...STRONG THUNDERSTORMS MOVING TOWARDS LOWER EASTERN SHORE...

AT 417 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
STRONG THUNDERSTORMS FROM 18 MILES WEST OF NASSAWADOX TO 25 MILES
SOUTHWEST OF CAPE CHARLES...OR FROM 8 MILES EAST OF DELTAVILLE TO
OCEAN VIEW...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 60 MPH. THE STRONG THUNDERSTORMS
WILL BE NEAR...
CAPE CHARLES AROUND 430 PM EST...
CHERITON AROUND 435 PM EST...
NASSAWADOX AROUND 440 PM EST...
WILLIS WHARF AROUND 445 PM EST...
ONLEY AROUND 450 PM EST...
PARKSLEY AROUND 455 PM EST...

WIND GUSTS TO 40 MPH...CLOUD TO GROUND LIGHTNING...AND HEAVY
RAINFALL ARE EXPECTED IN THE PATH OF THESE STORMS. PONDING OF WATER
ON ROADWAYS AND FLOODING OF LOW LYING AND FLOOD PRONE AREAS IS ALSO
POSSIBLE. IF YOU HEAR THUNDER...YOU ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE STRUCK BY
LIGHTNING. MOVE INTO A SAFE SHELTER BEFORE THESE STORMS REACH YOUR
AREA. REMAIN INDOORS UNTIL THE STORMS HAVE PASSED.

LAT...LON 3788 7541 3780 7551 3744 7565 3724 7578
3707 7596 3708 7597 3731 7603 3776 7581
3780 7583 3779 7598 3781 7575 3786 7570
3785 7573 3789 7570 3791 7577 3794 7573
3793 7534 3787 7534

$$

05
Quoting beell:


Yeah, maroon is an awful color.

did you hear about the red ship that ran into the blue ship?

it was reported that all the sailors were marooned...


lol, rumor has it they were listening to a Maroon 5 CD at the time.
Quoting Skyepony:
My electricity has been restored:)

That line brought 39mph winds here. Lost my power for 45mins or so. Just north of me~ Suntree, South Merritt Island & Satellite Beach looked hit a bit harder.


That's good!


How strange though, a power outage from just 39 mph gusts?

I don't think I've lost power from any wind below 60 to 70 mph.
Over here on the west coast the line brought gusts up to 45 mph, and the rain was impressive and well needed, although very short lived. We had a pretty strong cell move over us, 61 DBZ. The lightning was actually pretty impressive here too.

Total rainfall was 0.51, but the rain only lasted for a total of about 10 to 12 minutes, and the heaviest part about 5 minutes, so I'd say that was an impressive rainfall rate for late December...

Quoting beell:


Yeah, maroon is an awful color.

did you hear about the red ship that ran into the blue ship?

it was reported that all the sailors were marooned...


Oh dear, that's a maritime joke isn't it?
Quoting Methurricanes:
175mph seems doubtful.
Quoting Methurricanes:
175mph seems doubtful.
yeah that should have been 15-24, but you know how excited those guys get in Orlando over a lil weather LOL
Tropical Depression "QUINTA" has slowed down while approaching Coron, Palawan

At 4:00 AM PhST, Tropical Depression Quinta [1000 hPa] located at 11.7N 119.9E or 60 km southwest of Coron, Palawan has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west at 9 knots.

Signal Warnings
=================

Signal Warning #1
-----------------

Luzon region
-------------
1. Occidental Mindoro
2 .Northern Palawan
3. Calamian Group of Islands
4. Cuyo Island

Additional Information
======================
Public Storm Warning Signal elsewhere now lowered.

Estimated rainfall amount is from 5-15 mm per hour (moderate to heavy) within the 350 km diameter of the tropical depression.

Residents living in low lying and mountainous areas under public storm warning signal #1 are alerted against possible flash floods and landslides.

Fishing boats and other small seacrafts are advised not to venture out into the seaboards of Luzon and Visayas due to the enhanced Northeast Monsoon.

The public and the disaster coordinating councils concerned are advised to take appropriate actions and watch for the next bulletin to be issued at 11 AM today.
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA.

.DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.

WEST-SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS MAY GUST TO 25 TO 30 MPH AT TIMES
TONIGHT AS A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES AWAY FROM THE AREA.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY.

WINDY CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR THURSDAY...ESPECIALLY IN THE
MORNING...WITH WIND GUSTS 25 TO 30 MPH POSSIBLE.

$$
still have some storms down in south florida....
We picked up 14" snow in NW Dane Co. Places 15 miles to our south had upwards of 20"+! Winds Thursday afternoon were gusting in the lower 40MPH range. It was a full blown blizzard.

Quoting FtMyersgal:
Thank you for the new blog Dr. Masters. Friends of mine were burried in snowfall last week in Madison Wisconsin. Glad I was home here in Fort Myers :)
There are now 360 days until the 2013 Winter Solstice.

: )
I wonder if DaBirds can tell us what sort of bird that is?

Quoting yonzabam:
The bird in the photo looks very much like a waxwing, though very different plumage from the European waxwing, that we see here.

They're not indigenous to the UK, but they occasionally 'irrupt' from Scandinavia to the UK in winter. Usually, when this happens, they're only seen on the east coast.

Only time I've ever seen a waxwing was in 1965, when there was a big irruption to the UK. I was in the physics class at school, and we could see about 20 of them picking berries off the trees out the window.

European waxwing:




Quoting Jedkins01:


That's good!


How strange though, a power outage fro, just 39 mph gusts?

I don't think I've lost power from any wind below 60 to 70 mph.
Over here on the west coast the line brought gusts up to 45 mph, and the rain was impressive and well needed, although very short lived. We had a pretty strong cell move over us, 61 DBZ. The lightning was actually pretty impressive here too.

Total rainfall was 0.51, but the rain only lasted for a total of about 10 to 12 minutes, and the heaviest part about 5 minutes, so I'd say that was an impressive rainfall rate for late December...



Outage may have been caused by a lightning strike ??
Quoting Patrap:
There are now 360 days until the 2013 Winter Solstice.

: )
LOL..hiya..how did you make out in those storms yesterday?
Quoting lilElla:
We picked up 14" snow in NW Dane Co. Places 15 miles to our south had upwards of 20"+! Winds Thursday afternoon were gusting in the lower 40MPH range. It was a full blown blizzard.



Wow Ella. That's why we live in Florida now. I was never a fan of snow, unless you didn't have to go out in or drive in it. Did you loose power?
The Front was a Bumpy thriller with Lotsa NWS Alerts with tone, but the backside light show was really Fantastic.
Quoting Patrap:
The Front was a Bumpy thriller with Lotsa NWS Alerts with tone, but the backside light show was really Fantastic.
glad to hear you made it thru ok, it looked really bad all day long there yesterday.
(CNN) -- A white Christmas is rare for Little Rock, Arkansas, but a powerful winter storm took it to a new level: The 9 inches that fell broke a December 25 snowfall record that stood for 86 years.

The storm systems that brought snow to the Midwest and tornadoes to the South continued to move eastward Wednesday, threatening the Carolinas and inland New England.
Four tornadoes have been confirmed so far following yesterday's tornado outbreak across the South. Two have been rated EF1s, including the wedge tornado we watched pass through Mobile, Alabama, and two have been rated EF2s, both of which occurred in Louisiana.

Hazardous Weather Outlook
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
334 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

GMZ530-532-534-536-538-550-552-555-557-570-572-57 5-577-LAZ034>037-
039-040-046>050-056>072-MSZ068>071-077-080>082-27 0945-
LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN AND LAKE MAUREPAS-MISSISSIPPI SOUND-
LAKE BORGNE-CHANDELEUR SOUND-BRETON SOUND-
COASTAL WATERS FROM PORT FOURCHON TO LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER OUT
20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM THE SOUTHWEST PASS OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
TO PORT FOURCHON OUT 20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM BOOTHVILLE LA TO THE SOUTHWEST PASS OF THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER OUT 20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM PASCAGOULA MS TO STAKE ISLAND LA OUT 20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM PORT FOURCHON TO LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER FROM
20 TO 60 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM THE SOUTHWEST PASS OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
TO PORT FOURCHON FROM 20 TO 60 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM STAKE ISLAND LA TO THE SOUTHWEST PASS OF THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER FROM 20 TO 60 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM PASCAGOULA MS TO STAKE ISLAND LA FROM 20 TO
60 NM-POINTE COUPEE-WEST FELICIANA-EAST FELICIANA-ST. HELENA-
WASHINGTON-ST. TAMMANY-IBERVILLE-WEST BATON ROUGE-
EAST BATON ROUGE-ASCENSION-LIVINGSTON-ASSUMPTION-ST. JAMES-
ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-UPPER LAFOURCHE-ST. CHARLES-UPPER JEFFERSON-
ORLEANS-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
LOWER TERREBONNE-LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-NORTHERN TANGIPAHOA-
SOUTHERN TANGIPAHOA-WILKINSON-AMITE-PIKE-WALTHALL-PEARL RIVER-
HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-
334 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST
LOUISIANA...SOUTH MISSISSIPPI AND THE ADJACENT COASTAL WATERS.

.DAY ONE...TONIGHT

NORTHWEST WINDS NEAR 20 KNOTS AND SEAS NEAR 7 FEET WILL GRADUALLY
RELAX THIS EVENING. A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FOR THE
EASTERN OUTER WATERS THROUGH 9 PM.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY.

ANOTHER COLD FRONT WILL BRING SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TO THE
AREA FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT. AT THIS TIME... WIDESPREAD SEVERE
WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED. HOWEVER...A FEW STRONG THUNDERSTORMS ARE
POSSIBLE.

THIS STORM SYSTEM WILL BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF GUSTY WINDS TO THE
COASTAL WATERS. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES WILL LIKELY BE POSTED FOR
FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MUCH OF THE WEEKEND.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

THE ACTIVATION OF STORM SPOTTERS...HAM RADIO OPERATORS...AND
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL IN SUPPORT OF SEVERE WEATHER
OPERATIONS IS NOT ANTICIPATED THROUGH TUESDAY...JANUARY 1ST.

$$

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH
340 PM EST WED DEC 26 2012

PAZ001-270400-
/O.EXT.KCLE.BZ.W.0001.000000T0000Z-121227T0400Z/
NORTHERN ERIE-
INCLUDING THE CITY OF...ERIE
340 PM EST WED DEC 26 2012

...BLIZZARD WARNING NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 PM EST THIS EVENING...

* ACCUMULATIONS...8 TO 12 INCHES OF SNOW.

* TIMING...HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WILL TAPER OFF LATE THIS
EVENING. THE SNOW WILL VARY IN INTENSITY THROUGH EARLY TONIGHT.


* WINDS...NORTHEAST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS OF 35 MPH.

* IMPACTS...BLIZZARD CONDITIONS WILL MAKE FOR DANGEROUS TRAVEL
CONDITIONS THROUGH EARLY TONIGHT.

* TEMPERATURES...MID AND UPPER 20S.

* VISIBILITIES...NEAR ZERO AT TIMES FROM THE COMBINATION OF
FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A BLIZZARD WARNING MEANS SEVERE WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. VISIBILITIES WILL BE NEAR ZERO AT TIMES...
MAKING TRAVEL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

&&

$$
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Four tornadoes have been confirmed so far following yesterday's tornado outbreak across the South. Two have been rated EF1s, including the wedge tornado we watched pass through Mobile, Alabama, and two have been rated EF2s, both of which occurred in Louisiana.
Didn't you say yesterday the Mobile Tornado was at least a EF3.
SNOW AT MY PLACE!!!! Finally... some 2-3" possible


pic just taken...click for bigger size
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
SNOW AT MY PLACE!!!! Finally... some 2-3" possible



pic just taken...click for bigger size
img src="http://i.imgur.com/RSney.jpg">
man thats great..cold enough for it there too
Quoting nymore:
Didn't you say yesterday the Mobile Tornado was at least a EF3.

I said I was estimating it to be at least an EF3, yes. It's extremely rare to see a half-mile wedge tornado with a horizontal vorticy not be rated as "intense", but it happened yesterday.
Published on Dec 25, 2012

A Christmas Day tornado touched down west of downtown Mobile, Ala., on Tuesday afternoon, knocking down trees and power lines and damaging property. No injuries were immediately reported.

Amateur video of the twister showed a funnel churning through the city, occasionally illuminated by exploding electrical transformers.

The Mobile Fire Department said it had received reports of downed limbs, power lines, gas leaks and damage at Murphy High School inside the city.

The department tweeted that it had not been "overwhelmed" by calls. "We still have plenty of resources and are handling each call as it comes in," the department said. Crews were going door to door to check on residents.

Alabama Power reported that 22,500 customers had lost power, including 17,500 in the Mobile area.

Residents reported some home damage and downed trees.

The tornado appeared as a line of storms rolled through the Gulf Coast region on Tuesday, with a somewhat rare system also bringing snow to the lower Plains.

Quoting Civicane49:


huge storm...
Quoting whitewabit:


Outage may have been caused by a lightning strike ??



Hmmm, certainly possible, it seemed like the lightning activity died down a lot by time the line reached the East Coast though as dynamics exited off to the north, but then again, it only takes 1 well placed lightning strike.
18 kwgirl: If you are referring to the red bird in the above photos, those are called Cardinals. They are probably the same species of your waxwing.

Being of the same species implies an ability to breed and produce fertile offspring.
Cardinals and waxwings can't interbreed.
Cardinal&Allies and Waxwing&Allies are in entirely separate clades on the Phylogenetic Tree of Birds

Cardinals are ~15degrees below due right on the outer branches.
Waxwings are ~5degrees right of due bottom.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I said I was estimating it to be at least an EF3, yes. It's extremely rare to see a half-mile wedge tornado with a horizontal vorticy not be rated as "intense", but it happened yesterday.
Or maybe you should not jump to conclusions based on a web cam. A wedge tornado is not necessarily stronger than any other type (shape) all it means is it covering more area.
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


huge storm...


It sure is.
Quoting yonzabam:
The bird in the photo looks very much like a waxwing, though very different plumage from the European waxwing, that we see here.

They're not indigenous to the UK, but they occasionally 'irrupt' from Scandinavia to the UK in winter. Usually, when this happens, they're only seen on the east coast.

Only time I've ever seen a waxwing was in 1965, when there was a big irruption to the UK. I was in the physics class at school, and we could see about 20 of them picking berries off the trees out the window.

European waxwing:




I remember them being called Bohemian Waxwing... They ate berries from trees and bushes... They became know as the drunkin' waxwing
Dec 24, 1980 vs 2012:

SHORT TERM FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
423 PM EST WED DEC 26 2012

AMZ610-FLZ063-066-067-069-070-GMZ656-676-262330-
LAKE OKEECHOBEE-GLADES-HENDRY-INLAND PALM BEACH-COASTAL COLLIER-
INLAND COLLIER-
COASTAL WATERS FROM CHOKOLOSKEE TO BONITA BEACH, FL OUT 20 NM-
GULF WATERS FROM CHOKOLOSKEE TO BONITA BEACH, FL EXTENDING FROM
20 TO 60 NM-
423 PM EST WED DEC 26 2012

.NOW...
AT 420 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
BAND OF SHOWERS WITH ISOLATED EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS STRETCHING
FROM JUST NORTH OF NAPLES TO NEAR IMMOKALEE...TO MOORE
HAVEN...THEN ACROSS LAKE OKEECHOBEE. THIS LINE WILL MOVE EAST
ACROSS NORTHWESTERN SECTIONS OF SOUTH FLORIDA LATE THIS AFTERNOON.
HEAVY DOWNPOURS...GUSTY WINDS...AND OCCASIONAL CLOUD-TO-GROUND
LIGHTNING CAN BE EXPECTED. RAINFALL AMOUNTS WILL APPROACH ONE
THIRD INCH IN A FEW LOCATIONS.

$$
KONARIK
Quoting nymore:
Or maybe you should not jump to conclusions based on a web cam. A wedge tornado is not necessarily stronger than any other type (shape) all it means is it covering more area.

I wasn't referencing the shape of the tornado, I was referencing its horizontal vorticy. You only typically see those in intense (EF3-EF5) tornadoes. In fact, I've never seen a tornado have one without being at least an EF4. Not until yesterday.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I wasn't referencing the shape of the tornado, I was referencing its horizontal vorticy. You only typically see those in intense (EF3-EF5) tornadoes. In fact, I've never seen a tornado have one without being at least an EF4. Not until yesterday.


Have you ever seen a tornado ??
so you saw my pic of the snow earlier...

here is my concern...
the temperature is dropping, now at 30F (below freezing) but the NWS says that rain will move over my area (but at 30F?, no snow instead) and there is no winter alert issued.
Now TWC calls for 2-3"



what is the matter with this??
Quoting whitewabit:


Have you ever seen a tornado ??

I was referring to tornadoes being caught on camera, but yes, I have. Why?
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I was referring to tornadoes being caught on camera, but yes, I have. Why?


I was wondering if you had ever see the dynamics of a tornado in person ..
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I wasn't referencing the shape of the tornado, I was referencing its horizontal vorticy. You only typically see those in intense (EF3-EF5) tornadoes. In fact, I've never seen a tornado have one without being at least an EF4. Not until yesterday.


I was surprised by it too. Between the videos, size & radar~ everything but looking at the damage on the ground it looked like an EF3 easy. Is the official storm survey out yet?
Quoting Skyepony:


I was surprised by it too. Between the videos, size & radar~ everything but looking at the damage on the ground it looked like an EF3 easy. Is the official storm survey out yet?

Not yet.
Quoting Skyepony:


I was surprised by it too. Between the videos, size & radar~ everything but looking at the damage on the ground it looked like an EF3 easy. Is the official storm survey out yet?


I didn't think it was more then a 1 or 2 .. if you look at the video there is no debris flying through the air.. making me think it was very localized even though it had a massive shape ..
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I wasn't referencing the shape of the tornado, I was referencing its horizontal vorticy. You only typically see those in intense (EF3-EF5) tornadoes. In fact, I've never seen a tornado have one without being at least an EF4. Not until yesterday.
What do you mean by horizontal vorticity?

All tornadoes have vorticity...but I'm guessing you mean something else
Quoting TomTaylor:
What do you mean by horizontal vorticity?

All tornadoes have vorticity...but I'm guessing you mean something else

This.

and this.

and this.
The National Weather Service is upgrading the Mobile tornado to an EF2 (110-137 mph winds). Additional details to follow.

In addition, an EF3 tornado has been confirmed in Houston county by the NWS office there.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The National Weather Service is upgrading the Mobile tornado to an EF2 (110-137 mph winds). Additional details to follow.


About what I expected ..
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

This.

Ah, you're referring to the tornado having additional vortexes extending horizontally from the tornado. Not the tornado itself going horizontal.

Multiple vortexes associated with a tornado is likely a sign of a stronger tornado, but it certainly can't be used to determine it's strength. And whether or not those vorticies extend horizontally (opposed to vertically) is likely a conditional characteristic, independent of the strength of the tornado.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The National Weather Service is upgrading the Mobile tornado to an EF2 (110-137 mph winds). Additional details to follow.

In addition, an EF3 tornado has been confirmed in Houston county by the NWS office there.

The total tornado count is up to 6 now as an EF2 tornado has been confirmed in Mississippi yesterday.
Around 4" of snow, still snowing heavily, and there is some blowing and drifting.
coming to you now WPB..................

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON HAS
ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 9 AM TO 6 PM EST
THURSDAY.

* TIMING...THURSDAY MORNING AND AFTERNOON

* WINDS...NORTHWEST 20 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* IMPACTS...DOWNED TREES AND POWERLINES WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM
THE HIGHER WIND GUSTS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND ADVISORY MEANS THAT WIND GUSTS OF 45 TO 55 MPH ARE
EXPECTED. WINDS THIS STRONG CAN MAKE DRIVING DIFFICULT...
ESPECIALLY FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES.

&&
HE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CORPUS CHRISTI HAS ISSUED A
FREEZE WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM TO 8 AM CST
THURSDAY.

* TEMPERATURE...29 TO 32 DEGREES...FROM 2 TO 4 HOURS.

* IMPACTS...POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO TEMPERATURE-SENSITIVE PLANTS AND
ANIMALS. UNFAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR RESIDENTS WHO VENTURE
OUTDOORS WITHOUT ADEQUATE CLOTHING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WARNING MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE IMMINENT OR
HIGHLY LIKELY. THESE CONDITIONS WILL KILL CROPS AND OTHER
SENSITIVE VEGETATION.

&&
I guess this wind is going to stay with us............
More wild weather for SE TX

An EF1 tornado has been confirmed here in North Carolina, up in the Beaufort area. It occurred near 3pm EST, the path length was a quarter of a mile, and the tornado caused downed trees and severely damaged a home.
12z ECMWF has lots of snow for New Mexico, N Texas and Oklahoma. It is late in the run, however, so lot can change, as seen by the difference between the 00z and 12z run shown below.

00z vs 12z ECMWF Total Snowfall thru 240hrs

Quoting RitaEvac:




wonder how this snow storm through the plains has affected the drought map .. new map should be out tomorrow ..
Our tornado count from yesterday now counts at 8, with 1 EF0, 3 EF1s, 3 EF2s, and 1 EF3.
Sunset in mobile:

Thanks for the update Dr. Masters.

Haven't taken an actual measure, but looks to be about 1.5-2" of snow has fallen in the last 3 hours, roads are a total mess though, I guess without snow last year they forgot how to plow :)
Well, we had an EF2 in Mobile, Alabama yesterday.


000
NOUS44 KMOB 262344 CCA
PNSMOB
ALZ061-063-271145-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...CORRECTION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
542 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY FOR 25 DECEMBER 2012 TORNADO ACROSS THE
MOBILE METROPOLITAN AREA...

...CHRISTMAS AFTERNOON EF-2 CONFIRMED BY THE NWS...

.OVERVIEW...A POWERFUL STORM SYSTEM MOVED OUT OF THE PLAINS ON
CHRISTMAS...PRODUCING NUMEROUS STRONG STORMS ACROSS SOUTHEAST
MISSISSIPPI, SOUTHWEST ALABAMA, AND THE WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE
OUT AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT AND ACCOMPANYING SQUALL LINE. ONE
OF THE STORMS THAT MOVED ACROSS MOBILE COUNTY PRODUCED A TORNADO
THAT IMPACTED THE MOBILE METROPOLITAN AREA.

.MIDTOWN MOBILE TORNADO...

RATING: EF-2
ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 111-135 MPH
PATH LENGTH /STATUTE/: 5.7 MILES
PATH WIDTH /MAXIMUM/: 200 YARDS
FATALITIES: 0
INJURIES: SEVERAL MINOR

START DATE: DEC 25 2012
START TIME: 454 PM CST
START LOCATION: NEAR HALLS MILL RD AND DAUPHIN ISLAND PKWY
START LAT/LON: 30.67, -88.09

END DATE: DEC 25 2012
END TIME: 505 PM CST
END LOCATION: PRICHARD
END_LAT/LON: 30.74, -88.06
Philippines: Christmas Fires Kill 7, Leave Thousands Homeless In Manila (VIDEO, PHOTOS)

MANILA, Philippines -- Angry residents beat a man to death and threw rocks at firefighters after a shantytown fire left thousands of people homeless, and another Christmas Day blaze in the Philippine capital left seven people dead, officials said Wednesday.

A resident was beaten to death by his neighbors after shouting that he started Tuesday's shantytown fire in suburban San Juan city, Senior Fire Officer Domingo Cabog said.

The man was reportedly drunk and was not responsible for the fire. Cabog said the fire started in a house where children were playing with lighted candles.

Some 5,000 people were left homeless and 13 people were hurt in the shantytown. The injured included two firefighters and a volunteer hit by rocks that were thrown by residents who were impatient and tried to grab fire hoses to save their own shanties, Cabog said.



392.92ppm


Atmospheric CO2 for November 2012

co2now.org

Tipping Points in Earth Climate System - 2012 Arctic Methane Special Link to video
The storm near McNeil, Mississippi yesterday afternoon that produced a tornado and had a debris ball on radar has been rated an EF3.
Something for everyone in West Palm Beach...

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The storm near McNeil, Mississippi yesterday afternoon that produced a tornado and had a debris ball on radar has been rated an EF3.


So are there 2 EF-3 now being reported ??
Quoting whitewabit:


So are there 2 EF-3 now being reported ??

1 EF0, 3 EF1s, 4 EF2s, and 2 EF3s.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

1 EF0, 3 EF1s, 4 EF2s, and 2 EF3s.


TKS for the count .. amazing no one was killed for the number reported ..
.."I'm still so confused"..
Another EF1 tornado has been confirmed in Mississippi, bringing the tornado count up to 11. One more and we tie the record for the largest Christmas Day tornado outbreak on record.

Maine is going to get it good!!!


The sunset was as amazing today as captured in the pic that GeorgiaStormz posted. Just beautiful.
Live snowfall cam set up near Syracuse, New York. (for those who are not in a snowy area and would like to watch)

http://snowcam.tv/

Link
Heavy snow at my house right now, I'm just west of the rain/snow line, but I'll shift to rain pretty quick unfortunately.

US National Weather Service Wilmington NC
Satellite images shows today's storm system is offshore but is still producing a large area of very rough weather to our east. Nearly 3,000 lightning strikes have been recorded in the past hour from just off the Virginia coast south through Florida into western Cuba. Colder air will build in tonight through Thursday with near to below-normal temperatures expected.
Thanks Dr.Masters.
It is really weird how tornadoes can form in the winter time. Is that because of Global Warming or what?
Looks to be about done, just went out to shovel and measured about 5.25 inches so far in Binghamton, NY


I like this. Reasonable range on the GFS too.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Sunset in mobile:



BTW, where did you get this beautiful pic? Did you take it?
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
so you saw my pic of the snow earlier...

here is my concern...
the temperature is dropping, now at 30F (below freezing) but the NWS says that rain will move over my area (but at 30F?, no snow instead) and there is no winter alert issued.
Now TWC calls for 2-3"



what is the matter with this??


Is it even possible for it to rain at the temperature of 30 degrees?
I am issuing a blob alert for the western Caribbean until further notice.

Quoting AllyBama:
The sunset was as amazing today as captured in the pic that GeorgiaStormz posted. Just beautiful.


Indeed! Among my photographer friends, we would call that an Atomic sunset! Highly sought after, but only happens occassionally!
All is good. Even my paella came out good last night!

Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Summary
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05F
12:00 PM FST December 27 2012
====================================

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 05F (1002 hPa) located at 8.2S 163.8E has 10 minute sustained winds of 20 knots. The depression is reported as moving west at 12 knots. Position fair based on hourly GMS visible imagery and peripheral surface reports.

Organization has improved slightly past 24 hours. Convection has increased near the center of the system in past 24 hours. Low level circulation center partially exposed. System lies under an upper diffluent region and in a low sheared environment. The cyclonic circulation extends up to 700 HPA. Sea surface temperature around the system is 30C.

Most global models agree on a southwest movement with further intensification.

Forecast and Intensity
======================
12 HRS: 8.8S 163.3E - 25 knots (Tropical Depression)
24 HRS: 9.5S 162.8E - 30 knots (Tropical Depression)
48 HRS: 11.1S 161.7E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Cyclone)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #25
TROPICAL STORM WUKONG (T1225)
9:00 AM JST December 27 2012
===============================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon In South China Sea

At 0:00 AM UTC, Tropical Storm Wukong (1004 hPa) located at 10.6N 117.8E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west southwest at 13 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5

Gale Force Winds
===============
120 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
========================
24 HRS: 10.2N 112.9E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm) South China Sea
48 HRS: 9.3N 108.9E - Tropical Depression In South China Sea
I'm really bummed out that the "blizzard" only produced a couple inches of snow here.
Quoting dimples7848:
I'm really bummed out that the "blizzard" only produced a couple inches of snow here.


heh

The blizzard in my area for "DRACO" did the same thing. (about 2-3 inches).
The tornado damage surveys have concluded today. The number of confirmed tornadoes following yesterday's outbreak is up to 11--1 EF0, 3 EF1s, 5 EF2s, 2 EF3s. More surveys will be conducted tomorrow.
Philippines Atmospheric Geophysical Astronomical Services and Administration
Tropical Cyclone Bulletin #10 FINAL
LOW PRESSURE AREA, FORMER QUINTA
11:00 AM PhST December 27 2012
==============================

Tropical Depression "QUINTA" has now weakened into a low pressure area

At 10:00 AM PhST, The tropical depression located near 10.1N 116.6E or 220 km West of Puerto Princesa, Palawan has weakened into a low pressure area.

Additional Information
=======================

All Public Storm Warning Signal elsewhere now lowered.

Fishing boats and other small seacrafts are advised not to venture out into the seaboards of Luzon and Visayas due to the enhanced Northeast Monsoon.

With this development and unless re-intensification occurs, this is the final bulletin on this weather disturbance.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I am issuing a blob alert for the western Caribbean until further notice.



Since when do you issue "Blob Alerts"?
An early Happy New Year to all my friends...

Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Heavy snow at my house right now, I'm just west of the rain/snow line, but I'll shift to rain pretty quick unfortunately.

Actually the Rain snow line is collapsing SE
Quoting Grothar:


Since when do you issue "Blob Alerts"?

Since you told me to. Don't you remember Gro? Must be getting old...

People these days are crazy...

364 days until Christmas and they already have their Christmas lights up.
Winds are starting to pick up at Mt. Washington, wind gusts expected to reach over 100 mph tomorrow. It is truly an amazing place.



Overcast and Windy

14°F

-10°C

Humidity85%
Wind SpeedE 44 G 51 mph
BarometerNA
Dewpoint10°F (-12°C)
Visibility100.00 mi
Wind Chill-10°F (-23°C)

Last Update on 26 Dec 9:59 pm EST

Current conditions at

Mount Washington (KMWN)

Lat: 44.28 Lon: -71.3 Elev: 6266ft.
148 TropicalAnalystwx13: People these days are crazy...
364 days until Christmas and they already have their Christmas lights up.


Might as well... the Christmas sales have already started.
Quoting Newswatcher:
Thanks Dr.Masters.
It is really weird how tornadoes can form in the winter time. Is that because of Global Warming or what?


Tornadoes have always occurred in winter.
Good evenink.

For Oklahoma, here are preliminary snowfall totals from Christmas Day 2012 as published by local NWS offices. Not too shabby, really. We need moisture all over and it was good this storm provided some.

Please click image for NWS Norman's report page which provides snowfall totals for many locations across their forecast area.



NWS Tulsa's report page also has snow totals for many locations in their area. Clicking image will take you there.



NWS Shreveport - McCurtain County in SE corner of OK, where 7, 6.7, 5 and 3 are gathered together.
Image only.
Heavy snow now in the Berkshires
Afternoon all, I'm back from my trip to see my parents for Christmas. I heard I missed some action on your Christmas day. Glad to read no one was killed by them except those killed by the straight line winds.

We could see some more action in the SW Pacific with the BOM mentioning a Low could develop near the Solomon Islands.

A weak low near the Solomon Islands is expected to remain slow moving while deepening over the coming days. BOM NE QLD/Coral Sea 3-day outlook
Here is the preliminary snowfall summary through 9PM this evening in SE MI from NWS Detroit. I, so far, have received around 6.0" of fresh snow.
Quoting AussieStorm:
Afternoon all, I'm back from my trip to see my parents for Christmas. I heard I missed some action on your Christmas day. Glad to read no one was killed by them except those killed by the straight line winds.

We could see some more action in the SW Pacific with the BOM mentioning a Low could develop near the Solomon Islands.

A weak low near the Solomon Islands is expected to remain slow moving while deepening over the coming days. BOM NE QLD/Coral Sea 3-day outlook


Nadi RSMC advisory on that low
PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
805 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

1105 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG SOUR LAKE 30.14N 94.40W
12/25/2012 HARDIN TX LAW ENFORCEMENT

HARDIN COUNTY SHERIFF REPORTS NUMEROUS TREES DOWN ACROSS
SOUR LAKE AND SILSBEE DUE TO GRADIENT WINDS.


1135 AM TSTM WND GST 2 SE WOODVILLE 30.75N 94.40W
12/25/2012 M51.00 MPH TYLER TX OTHER FEDERAL

RAWS SITE 2 MILES SOUTHEAST OF WOODVILLE REPORTED A WIND
GUST OF 51 MPH.


1135 AM TSTM WND GST JASPER 30.92N 94.00W
12/25/2012 M44.00 MPH JASPER TX ASOS

1156 AM TSTM WND DMG DE QUINCY 30.45N 93.44W
12/25/2012 CALCASIEU LA LAW ENFORCEMENT

DEQUINCY POLICE REPORT A TREE BLOWN OVER ONTO POWERLINES
ALONG HWY 389 AND 204 RESULTING IN POWER OUTAGES ACROSS
THE DEQUINCY AREA.


1205 PM TSTM WND GST 2 E BUNA 30.44N 93.93W
12/25/2012 M54.00 MPH JASPER TX OTHER FEDERAL

RAWS STATION EAST OF BUNA REPORTS A WIND GUST OF 54 MPH.

1205 PM TSTM WND GST KIRBYVILLE 30.66N 93.90W
12/25/2012 M54.00 MPH JASPER TX OTHER FEDERAL

KIRBYVILLE RAWS SITE REPORTS A 20 FOOT WIND GUST OF 54
MPH.


1216 PM TSTM WND DMG MERRYVILLE 30.75N 93.53W
12/25/2012 BEAUREGARD LA EMERGENCY MNGR

BEAUREGARD PARISH EMERGENCY MANAGER REPORTS TREES AND
POWERLINES DOWN IN MERRYVILLE. TIME ESTIMATED BY RADAR.



1216 PM TORNADO BEAUMONT 30.09N 94.14W
12/25/2012 JEFFERSON TX EMERGENCY MNGR

THIS REPORT WAS DETERMINED TO BE FALSE.

1220 PM TSTM WND GST FORT POLK 31.05N 93.21W
12/25/2012 M49.00 MPH VERNON LA ASOS

FORT POLK ASOS REPORTED A WIND GUST OF 49 MPH.

1228 PM TSTM WND DMG VIDOR 30.13N 94.00W
12/25/2012 ORANGE TX LAW ENFORCEMENT

VIDOR POLICE REPORT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AT 475 S DENVER
HAD ITS ROOF BLOWN OFF AND DEBRIS SCATTERED ON THE
ROADWAY. PHOTOS POSTED TO KBMTS FACEBOOK INDICATE DAMAGE
TO BUILDING SIGNS ON AN OUTLET MALL AS WELL AS A LARGE
TREE LIMB FALLEN ON A HOME RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANT
DAMAGE TO THE PORCH AND ROOF.

1234 PM TSTM WND DMG PITKIN 30.94N 92.94W
12/25/2012 VERNON LA LAW ENFORCEMENT

STATE POLICE REPORT DAMAGE TO A BARN AND TREES DOWN NEAR
PITKIN AS THE RESULT OF A POSSIBLE TORNADO. TIME
ESTIMATED BY RADAR.



1243 PM TORNADO 3 E PITKIN 30.94N 92.89W
12/25/2012 VERNON LA NWS STORM SURVEY

NWS STORM SURVEY TEAM CONFIRMS AN EF 0 TORNADO TOUCHDOWN
THREE MILES EAST OF THE TOWN OF PITKIN. THE TORNADO
PRODUCED A DAMAGE PATH TWO MILES LONG AND 200 YARDS WIDE.
THE TORNADO SNAPPED NUMEROUS PINE TREES ALONG HIGHWAY
113. A TREE FELL ON A HOUSE CAUSING MINOR ROOF DAMAGE.
THE TORNADO ALSO PARTIALLY REMOVED A ROOF FROM A GARAGE.


1245 PM TORNADO TIOGA 31.38N 92.43W
12/25/2012 RAPIDES LA NWS STORM SURVEY

*** 1 INJ *** NWS STORM SURVEY CONFIRMED AN EF 2 TORNADO
TOUCHDOWN IN THE TOWN OF TIOGA. THE TORNADO PRODUCED A
DAMAGE PATH FOUR MILES LONG AND 1/2 MILE WIDE. THE
TORNADO DAMAGED APPROXIMATELY 43 HOMES AS WELL AS TIOGA
HIGH SCHOOL AND INVENTORY AT A TRUCKING COMPANY. ONE
MINOR INJURY OCCURED WITH THE INJURED PARTY REFUSING
TREATMENT.


1250 PM TORNADO ALEXANDRIA 31.29N 92.46W
12/25/2012 RAPIDES LA NWS STORM SURVEY

NWS STORM SURVEY CONFIRMS AN EF 2 TORNADO TOUCHDOWN IN
THE CITY OF ALEXANDRIA. THE TORNADO PRODUCED A DAMAGE
PATH 2 MILES LONG AND 200 YARDS WIDE. LARGE PIECES OF
ROOF MATERIAL WERE BLOWN OFF OF BUILDINGS IN JACKSON
SQUARE. THE TORNADO BLEW A NON MOVING CHEVY COBALT OFF
THE ROAD AND INTO A YARD. SOME DAMAGE TO HOMES AND
VEHICLES OCCURED AS A RESULT OF TREES FALLING ONTO THEM.


1250 PM TSTM WND DMG PINEVILLE 31.33N 92.42W
12/25/2012 RAPIDES LA NWS EMPLOYEE

NWS EMPLOYEE REPORTS A 5TH WHEEL FLIPPED OVER AT 118
WOODCREEK LOOP. NUMEROUS PINE TREES AND POWERLINES ARE
ALSO REPORTED TO BE DOWN.


1253 PM TSTM WND GST ALEXANDRIA 31.29N 92.46W
12/25/2012 M61.00 MPH RAPIDES LA ASOS

ALEXANDRIA ASOS REPORTED A 61 MPH WIND GUST.

0102 PM FUNNEL CLOUD 5 E TIOGA 31.38N 92.35W
12/25/2012 RAPIDES LA TRAINED SPOTTER

STORM SPOTTER REPORTS A FUNNEL CLOUD 5 MILES EAST OF
TIOGA


0114 PM TSTM WND GST JOHNSONS BAYOU 29.77N 93.66W
12/25/2012 E60.00 MPH CAMERON LA NWS EMPLOYEE

NWS EMPLOYEE ESTIMATES WIND GUST OF 60 MPH.


0215 PM TORNADO 7 SE VILLE PLATTE 30.62N 92.20W
12/25/2012 ST. LANDRY LA STORM CHASER

STORM CHASER REPORTS A BRIEF TORNADO TOUCHDOWN NEAR
LEDOUX.



0241 PM TSTM WND GST OPELOUSAS 30.52N 92.08W
12/25/2012 M58.00 MPH ST. LANDRY LA TRAINED SPOTTER

LAFAYETTE SKYWARN SPOTTER REPORTS A WIND GUST OF 58 MPH
NEAR OPELOUSAS.

0248 PM FUNNEL CLOUD SUNSET 30.41N 92.07W
12/25/2012 ST. LANDRY LA PUBLIC

PUBLIC REPORTED A ROTATING FUNNEL CLOUD NEAR SUNSET.

0300 PM TSTM WND DMG SCOTT 30.24N 92.09W
12/25/2012 LAFAYETTE LA LAW ENFORCEMENT

LAFAYETTE SHERIFF REPORTS PARTIAL ROOF TORN OFF OF A
PORCH NEAR NORTH OF I-10 OFF OF HWY 93.
would any of you guys go sufering in the snow ?
Blob alert repeat Blob alert.
I stand corrected.

Three more tornadoes--an EF0, an EF1, and an EF2--have been confirmed, bringing the total tornado count for Christmas Day up to 14, making this outbreak the largest Christmas Day outbreak on record.

(Edited to fix horrible wording)

KIRBYVILLE RAWS SITE REPORTS A 20 FOOT WIND GUST OF 54
MPH.



????????

hmmmmmm.... was this gust 20feet high, or 20 feet wide. ; )
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:

KIRBYVILLE RAWS SITE REPORTS A 20 FOOT WIND GUST OF 54
MPH.



????????

hmmmmmm.... was this gust 20feet high, or 20 feet wide. ; )


Lol. That gave me pause too.
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:

KIRBYVILLE RAWS SITE REPORTS A 20 FOOT WIND GUST OF 54
MPH.



????????

hmmmmmm.... was this gust 20feet high, or 20 feet wide. ; )



Well what do you know? We now have criteria for dimensions of wind gusts? That might be a bit of a problem. Because air acts as a fluid, and well, unless you're willing to solve flux integrals, you might as well avoid measuring the volume of the wind gust :)

Not the season we normally break out the generators. :)

People without power deal with frigid temperatures

Posted: Dec 26, 2012 5:25 PM CST Updated: Dec 26, 2012 5:25 PM CST
By Adam Wright



Heavy winds and nasty storms left many Southeast Texans without power Christmas day. According to the Entergy web site thousands were still powerless throughout the Golden Triangle early Wednesday.

Stephanie Blackburn and her three young boys huddled around the fire in their home in Orange, trying to stay warm. They lost power around noon Tuesday, along with thousands of others.

"My husband got the fire started before he went to work, and that's what we have. We had to go down to my dad's last night around 10 to get some more wood," Blackburn said.

Her boys treasured the final minutes of battery life left in their new gaming tablet, knowing they wouldn't be able to charge it until the power returned.

"It's the last technology that we have until the lights come back on," said Blackburn.

According to the Entergy web site, more than 200 people in her neighborhood were without power Wednesday morning. An Entergy crew was working on fixing a downed power line down the road. They told Blackburn she would have power back by 4pm Wednesday. Her neighbor Jay Kimmons had a generator set up behind his house to deal with the situation.

"We were able to make coffee and make some muffins for breakfast. We have a small heater that we can hook up, to keep out feet warm," Kimmons said.

He said it was a tolerable 57 degrees inside his house.

"At least we don't have this wind chill inside," he said.

But for Blackburn and her kids it was a little colder, as they eagerly waited to have power once more.

Entergy is working on returning power to all those affected
Coulda meant 20foot long... a very brief gust lasting 1/4 of a second
Maybe it was measured at an elevation of 20ft above the ground.
Yeah, it was. But ya gotta admit the wording called for funny.












I hope these sunset pictures turn out okay.. If they do, hope y'all enjoy them.. I took these in Destin, FL yesterday..
man it took me a minute to figure out what i was doing wrong of trying to upload some pictures lol
Quoting FLPandhandleJG:
man it took me a minute to figure out what i was doing wrong of trying to upload some pictures lol


Thanks for taking the minute...beautiful!
Quoting AtHomeInTX:
Not the season we normally break out the generators. :)

People without power deal with frigid temperatures

Posted: Dec 26, 2012 5:25 PM CST Updated: Dec 26, 2012 5:25 PM CST
By Adam Wright



Heavy winds and nasty storms left many Southeast Texans without power Christmas day. According to the Entergy web site thousands were still powerless throughout the Golden Triangle early Wednesday.

Stephanie Blackburn and her three young boys huddled around the fire in their home in Orange, trying to stay warm. They lost power around noon Tuesday, along with thousands of others.

"My husband got the fire started before he went to work, and that's what we have. We had to go down to my dad's last night around 10 to get some more wood," Blackburn said.

Her boys treasured the final minutes of battery life left in their new gaming tablet, knowing they wouldn't be able to charge it until the power returned.

"It's the last technology that we have until the lights come back on," said Blackburn.

According to the Entergy web site, more than 200 people in her neighborhood were without power Wednesday morning. An Entergy crew was working on fixing a downed power line down the road. They told Blackburn she would have power back by 4pm Wednesday. Her neighbor Jay Kimmons had a generator set up behind his house to deal with the situation.

"We were able to make coffee and make some muffins for breakfast. We have a small heater that we can hook up, to keep out feet warm," Kimmons said.

He said it was a tolerable 57 degrees inside his house.

"At least we don't have this wind chill inside," he said.

But for Blackburn and her kids it was a little colder, as they eagerly waited to have power once more.

Entergy is working on returning power to all those affected

There were a few transformer explosions around me today which made power go out for some people I know and it made it flicker for me
Quoting Skyepony:


Thanks for taking the minute...beautiful!


anytime.. I think these r the best ones i ever taken lol.. thats for sure!
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #2
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05F
18:00 PM FST December 27 2012
====================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 05F (1000 hPa) located at 8.7S 163.2E has 10 minute sustained winds of 20 knots. The depression is reported as moving southwest at 8 knots. Position fair based on hourly GMS visible imagery and peripheral surface reports.

Organization has improved slightly in the past 24 hours. Convection has increased near the system in the past 12 hours. System lies under an upper diffluent region and in a moderate sheared environment. Cyclonic circulation extends up to 500 HPA. Sea srface temperature is around 30C.

Most global models agree on a southwest movement with further intensification.

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
12 HRS: 9.3S 162.6E - 25 knots (Tropical Depression)
24 HRS: 9.8S 162.0E - 30 knots (Tropical Depression)
48 HRS: 11.1S 160.9E - 40 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Cyclone)
I guess it could be good that we don't have the forests like you guys get in the states because winds like are taking out power for you all over the place are quite regular here. Just checking the current weather map, for example, shows Vestmannaeyjar has had sustained winds of at least 35mph for the past 2 days, with currently sustained winds of 45mph, and gusts of 60mph. The power grid here is pretty reliable (home wiring, not so much...)

Or is it not so much just the wind and trees as it is ice forming on them that's the culprit? I remember back when I lived in Iowa that was always a big problem in spring, everything weighed down with ice.

At least we don't usually get tornadoes here (I know it's happened at least a couple times, but it's really rare)!
Quoting Tazmanian:
would any of you guys go sufering in the snow ?

Not me
MMMM interesting low of the NW Western Australian Coast. But the BOM says it is unlikely to develop into a Tropical Cyclone in the next few days. Looks pretty good to me.


Loop

The NRL Monterey Marine Meteorology Division Page has it as Invest 95S
Good Morning folks!!..7-day for Tampa Bay area.....
cool morning alright but not too bad by me.....
Mornin' Largo!

Evening Aussie!

Well Largo, as we discussed, the cold front was a dud here. One 30 second blast of rain, followed by a 15 second blast of rain, and then it was over [pouts]
Quoting indianrivguy:
Mornin' Largo!

Evening Aussie!

Well Largo, as we discussed, the cold front was a dud here. One 30 second blast of rain, followed by a 15 second blast of rain, and then it was over [pouts]
Same here IRG. Never did see it rain but the road was wet.... Good morning
Quoting AussieStorm:
Afternoon all, I'm back from my trip to see my parents for Christmas. I heard I missed some action on your Christmas day. Glad to read no one was killed by them except those killed by the straight line winds.

We could see some more action in the SW Pacific with the BOM mentioning a Low could develop near the Solomon Islands.

A weak low near the Solomon Islands is expected to remain slow moving while deepening over the coming days. BOM NE QLD/Coral Sea 3-day outlook


Welcome back Aussie.
I'm gonna guess and say he meant a 20 second wind gust.
Quoting indianrivguy:
Mornin' Largo!

Evening Aussie!

Well Largo, as we discussed, the cold front was a dud here. One 30 second blast of rain, followed by a 15 second blast of rain, and then it was over [pouts]
..good morning, yeah you folks didnt get much out of it, we got maybe 20 minutes of great rain,half inch of rain they say but alot of wind etc, cause im on the coastline when it came in..cool now so we wait for the second cold front saturday to come in, hope we get some more rain from it..
nice Blob down by cuba.............
I wonder if the folks in Texas got their power back now?....................................real cold there without power for heat..brrrr
Pearl River LA. Tornado damage Report............PEARL RIVER COUNTY TORNADO...

RATING: EF-3
ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 140 MPH
PATH LENGTH /STATUTE/: 24 MILES
PATH WIDTH /MAXIMUM/: 175 YARDS
FATALITIES: 0
INJURIES: 8

START DATE: DEC 25 2012
START TIME: 310 PM CST
START LOCATION: 2.75 MILES SW OF MCNEIL / PEARL RIVER / MS
START LAT/LON: 30.650 / -89.681

END DATE: DEC 25 2012
END TIME: 345 PM CST
END LOCATION: 12 MILES E OF POPLARVILLE / PEARL RIVER / MS
END_LAT/LON: 30.839 / -89.341

SURVEY_SUMMARY: THE TORNADO INITIALLY TOUCHED DOWN ON HARRIS RD ON
THE SW SIDE OF MCNEIL...WHERE IT SNAPPED SEVERAL PINE TREES. IT
MOVED NORTHEASTWARD AND RAPIDLY INTENSIFIED RESULTING IN A SMALL
AREA OF STRONG EF-2 AND WEAK EF-3 DAMAGE ALONG JOE SMITH RD AND
SONES CHAPEL RD. THE WORST DAMAGE OCCURRED WHEN A SINGLE STORY BRICK
VENEER TRIPLEX DWELLING WAS DESTROYED WITH ONLY TWO SMALL INTERIOR
WALLS LEFT STANDING. THE TORNADO WEAKENED AFTER CROSSING HWY 11...
CAUSING MAINLY TREE AND MINOR ROOF DAMAGE UNTIL IT REINTENSIFIED IN
THE FAR NORTHEAST CORNER OF PEARL RIVER COUNTY NEAR RED HILL CHURCH
RD. IT CAUSED STRONG EF-1 DAMAGE AS IT WAS LEAVING PEARL RIVER COUNTY
INTO STONE COUNTY. COUNTY OFFICIALS PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF 22
HOMES DESTROYED/NOT REPARABLE...8 HOMES WITH MAJOR DAMAGE...16
HOMES WITH MINOR DAMAGE AND AN ADDITIONAL 9 HOMES AFFECTED. 8
PEOPLE WERE TRANSPORTED BY EMS TO AREA HOSPITALS...THOUGH
ADDITIONAL MINOR INJURIES LIKELY OCCURRED. TIMES BASED ON RADAR.
WILKINSON AND AMITE COUNTY TORNADO...

RATING: EF-1
ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 105 MPH
MPH PATH LENGTH/STATUTE/: 3 MILES MILES
PATH WIDTH /MAXIMUM/: 250 YARDS
FATALITIES: 0
INJURIES: 1

START DATE: DEC 25 2012
START TIME: 231 PM CST
START LOCATION: 1 MILE SOUTH OF CENTREVILLE / WILKINSON / MS
START LAT/LON: 31.08 / -91.07

END DATE: DEC 25 2012
END TIME: 238 PM CST
END LOCATION: 2.7MILES EAST OF CENTREVILLE / AMITE / MS
END_LAT/LON: 31.10 / -91.02

TORNADO FIRST TOUCHED DOWN SOUTH OF HWY 24 JUST EAST OF THE
INTERSECTION OF HWY 33 AND HWY 24 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
CENTREVILLE. INITIALLY NUMEROUS SOFT WOODS AND A FEW HARD WOODS
WERE SNAPPED AND UPROOTED AND A FEW POWER POLES LOST THEIR WOODEN
CROSSMEMBERS. TORNADO QUICKLY MOVED TO THE EAST-NORTHEAST ACROSS
HWY 24 UPROOTING ANOTHER 6-10 TREE...ONE WHICH CLIPPED A HOUSE
BRINGING DOWN MUCH OF THE EAST FACING WALL. TORNADO WAS ABOUT
170-200 YARDS WIDE AT THIS POINT AND CONTINUED INTO THE TOWN OF
CENTREVILLE. A TIRE SERVICE STATION LOST MOST OF ITS
CANOPY(COLUMNS STILL STANDING) AND THE CENTREVILLE HEADSTART LOST
ITS METAL AWNING. TORNADO CROSSED FORT STREET WITH MANY MORE TREES
COMING DOWN...ONE ON TOP OF A CAR. ALSO ALONG FORT STREET A SINGLE
WIDE MOBILE HOME LOST MUCH OF ITS EXTERIOR WALLS. ON EAST HOWARD
STREET A TREE FELL THROUGH A HOUSE CAUSING EXTENSIVE DAMAGE. ON
HOWARD STREET ANOTHER TREE FELL INTO A HOUSE PINNING A LADY AND
LEADING TO THE ONE MINOR INJURY. TORNADO CONTINUED TO THE EAST-
NORTHEAST LEADING TO ANOTHER AREA OF SIGNIFICANT TREE DAMAGE
UPROOTING AND SNAPPING NUMEROUS HARD WOODS. ALSO A RESIDENCE HAD
MINOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE LEADING TO THE CARPORT PARTIALLY
COLLAPSING. TORNADO MOVED ALONG HWY 48 FOR ABOUT A MILE CAUSING
LIGHT TREE DAMAGE BEFORE LIFTING. TIMES WERE BASED ON RADAR AND
EYEWITNESS REPORTS.


.EAST BATON ROUGE WIND DAMAGE...

A SURVEY TEAM DETERMINED THAT SCATTERED TREE AND LARGE LIMB DAMAGE
ACROSS THE CITY OF ZACHARY WAS DUE TO STRAIGHT LINE WINDS.


NOTE:
THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO
CHANGE PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENTS AND PUBLICATION IN NWS
STORM DATA.

$$

CAB/JS/DM/FR/ME/JM
URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BLACKSBURG VA
400 AM EST THU DEC 27 2012

...STRONG WEST TO NORTHWEST WINDS INTO THIS AFTERNOON...

.STRONG LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE MID ATLANTIC COAST WILL CONTINUE TO
MOVE NORTHEAST AND DEEPEN TODAY. AS THE LOW STRENGTHENS...VERY
STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS WILL PERSIST INTO AT LEAST EARLY THIS
AFTERNOON...WITH GUSTS EXCEEDING 50 MPH OVER MOST OF THE REGION
TO 75 MPH ALONG THE BLUE RIDGE. THE LOW PULLS FAR ENOUGH AWAY BY
LATE THIS AFTERNOON TO ALLOW WINDS TO SUBSIDE.
Here comes the next one.................

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...CORRECTED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
900 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY FOR 12/25/12 TORNADO EVENT...

.SOUTHERN HOUSTON COUNTY TORNADO # 1...

RATING: EF-3
ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 150 MPH
PATH LENGTH /STATUTE/: 7.0 MILES
PATH WIDTH /MAXIMUM/: 300 YARDS
FATALITIES: 0
INJURIES: 0

START DATE: DEC 25 2012
START TIME: 9:25 AM CST
START LOCATION: 5 WSW PENNNIGTON / HOUSTON COUNTY /TX
START LAT/LON: 31.1674/ -95.3132

END DATE: DEC 25 2012
END TIME: 9:35 AM CST
END LOCATION: 2 N PENNINGTON / HOUSTON COUNTY / TX
END_LAT/LON: 31.2290 -92.2356

SURVEY SUMMARY: WORST OF THE DAMAGE WAS ALONG HIGHWAY 287 A MILE
NORTH OF PENNINGTON WHERE A FEED STORE AND RESTAURANT WERE
COMPLETELY DESTROYED WITH DEBRIS SCATTERED IN FIELD TO THE EAST.
WITNESSES OBSERVED A WIDE DARK CLOUD MOVING ACROSS THE PATH
SCATTERING DEBRIS. SEVERAL HOMES AND TRAILERS WERE SEVERELY
DAMAGED ALONG THE PATH...MOSTLY EF-1 AND EF-2 DAMAGE...BUT
THERE WERE NO SERIOUS INJURIES.

.TORNADO # 2...

START DATE: DEC 25 2012
START TIME: 9:40 AM CST
START LOCATION: 1 NNW PENNNIGTON / HOUSTON COUNTY /TX

END DATE: DEC 25 2012
END TIME: 9:41 AM CST
END LOCATION: 1 NNW PENNNIGTON / HOUSTON COUNTY /TX

RATING: EF-0
ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 75 MPH
PATH LENGTH /STATUTE/: 0.3 MILES
PATH WIDTH /MAXIMUM/: 30 YARDS
FATALITIES: 0
INJURIES: 0



BRIEF TOUCHDOWN OBSERVED BY POLICE OFFICER NEAR SCENE OF
EARLIER TOUCHDOWN ALONG ROUTE 287. SOME DEBRIS LOFTED BUT
LITTLE ADDITIONAL DAMAGE TO STRUCTURES.

EF SCALE: THE ENHANCED FUJITA SCALE CLASSIFIES TORNADOES
INTO THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES.

EF0...WEAK......65 TO 85 MPH
EF1...WEAK......86 TO 110 MPH
EF2...STRONG....111 TO 135 MPH
EF3...STRONG....136 TO 165 MPH
EF4...VIOLENT...166 TO 200 MPH
EF5...VIOLENT...>200 MPH*

NOTE:
THE INFORMATION IN THIS STATEMENT IS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE
PENDING FINAL REVIEW OF THE EVENTS AND PUBLICATION IN NWS STORM
DATA.

$$
Quoting indianrivguy:
Mornin' Largo!

Evening Aussie!

Well Largo, as we discussed, the cold front was a dud here. One 30 second blast of rain, followed by a 15 second blast of rain, and then it was over [pouts]


Front was a disappointment here too IRG. My rain lasted all of 15 minutes, and rain gauge showed a total of .09 inches (I'm pouting too!)
742
NOUS44 KMOB 262344 CCA
PNSMOB
ALZ061-063-271145-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...CORRECTION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
542 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY FOR 25 DECEMBER 2012 TORNADO ACROSS THE
MOBILE METROPOLITAN AREA...

...CHRISTMAS AFTERNOON EF-2 CONFIRMED BY THE NWS...

.OVERVIEW...A POWERFUL STORM SYSTEM MOVED OUT OF THE PLAINS ON
CHRISTMAS...PRODUCING NUMEROUS STRONG STORMS ACROSS SOUTHEAST
MISSISSIPPI, SOUTHWEST ALABAMA, AND THE WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE
OUT AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT AND ACCOMPANYING SQUALL LINE. ONE
OF THE STORMS THAT MOVED ACROSS MOBILE COUNTY PRODUCED A TORNADO
THAT IMPACTED THE MOBILE METROPOLITAN AREA.

.MIDTOWN MOBILE TORNADO...

RATING: EF-2ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 111-135 MPH
PATH LENGTH /STATUTE/: 5.7 MILESPATH WIDTH /MAXIMUM/: 200 YARDSFATALITIES: 0
INJURIES: SEVERAL MINOR

START DATE: DEC 25 2012
START TIME: 454 PM CST
START LOCATION: NEAR HALLS MILL RD AND DAUPHIN ISLAND PKWY
START LAT/LON: 30.67, -88.09

END DATE: DEC 25 2012
END TIME: 505 PM CST
END LOCATION: PRICHARD
END_LAT/LON: 30.74, -88.06

SURVEY_SUMMARY:

THE INITIAL TORNADO TOUCHDOWN WAS LOCATED NEAR DAUPHIN ISLAND
PARKWAY...DUVAL STREET AND HALLS MILL ROAD...WHERE IT INITIALLY
MOVED NORTHWESTWARD. THE TORNADO CONTINUED NORTHWARD TO NEAR THE
INTERSECTIONS OF HOLCOMB AVENUE...GOVERNMENT STREET AND DAUPHIN
ISLAND PARKWAY WHERE IT PRODUCED DAMAGE CONSISTENT WITH AN EF-1
TORNADO...DAMAGING SEVERAL COMMERCIAL RETAILERS. THE TORNADO
CONTINUED NORTHWARD...DAMAGING HOMES AND PRODUCING ROOF DAMAGE
TO NUMEROUS HOMES. IT THEN REACHED MURPHY HIGH SCHOOL...WHERE
IT DESTROYED SEVERAL OUT-BUILDINGS...BLEW OUT WINDOWS AND PRODUCED
SIGNIFICANT ROOF DAMAGE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. FROM HERE...THE
TORNADO TRACKED NORTHWARD TO DAUPHIN STREET WHERE IT STRENGTHENED
AND WIDENED TO 200 YARDS PRODUCING DAMAGE CONSISTENT WITH AN EF-2
TORNADO TO SEVERAL HOMES. ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED WAS THE
TRINITY EPISCOPAL CHURCH ON DAUPHIN STREET. THE TORNADO THEN
MOVED INTO THE SILVERWOOD STREET AREA WHERE IT PRODUCED EF-1
DAMAGE AND SPORADIC EF-2 DAMAGE TO SEVERAL HOMES. THE TORNADO
NEXT TRACKED NORTH NORTHEAST ACROSS THE MOBILE INFIRMARY HOSPITAL
...WHERE IT BLEW OUT SEVERAL WINDOWS AND DAMAGED SEVERAL
AUTOMOBILES...AS WELL AS FLIPPING ONE AUTOMOBILE. THE TORNADO
CONTINUED TRACKING NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS INTERSTATE 165 MOVING
INTO THE PRICHARD AREA WHERE IT PRODUCED DAMAGE TO THE ROOFS OF
SEVERAL HOMES...AS WELL AS SNAPPING SEVERAL TREES. THE TORNADO
CONTINUED ACROSS TELEGRAPH ROAD WHERE IT TOSSED SEVERAL LARGE
SHIPPING CONTAINERS AND DAMAGED A WAREHOUSE FACILITY BEFORE
DISSIPATING ON JAKES LANE IN PRICHARD
Quoting WDEmobmet:
742
NOUS44 KMOB 262344 CCA
PNSMOB
ALZ061-063-271145-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...CORRECTION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
542 PM CST WED DEC 26 2012

...NWS DAMAGE SURVEY FOR 25 DECEMBER 2012 TORNADO ACROSS THE
MOBILE METROPOLITAN AREA...

...CHRISTMAS AFTERNOON EF-2 CONFIRMED BY THE NWS...

.OVERVIEW...A POWERFUL STORM SYSTEM MOVED OUT OF THE PLAINS ON
CHRISTMAS...PRODUCING NUMEROUS STRONG STORMS ACROSS SOUTHEAST
MISSISSIPPI, SOUTHWEST ALABAMA, AND THE WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE
OUT AHEAD OF A STRONG COLD FRONT AND ACCOMPANYING SQUALL LINE. ONE
OF THE STORMS THAT MOVED ACROSS MOBILE COUNTY PRODUCED A TORNADO
THAT IMPACTED THE MOBILE METROPOLITAN AREA.

.MIDTOWN MOBILE TORNADO...

RATING: EF-2ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 111-135 MPH
PATH LENGTH /STATUTE/: 5.7 MILESPATH WIDTH /MAXIMUM/: 200 YARDSFATALITIES: 0
INJURIES: SEVERAL MINOR

START DATE: DEC 25 2012
START TIME: 454 PM CST
START LOCATION: NEAR HALLS MILL RD AND DAUPHIN ISLAND PKWY
START LAT/LON: 30.67, -88.09

END DATE: DEC 25 2012
END TIME: 505 PM CST
END LOCATION: PRICHARD
END_LAT/LON: 30.74, -88.06

SURVEY_SUMMARY:

THE INITIAL TORNADO TOUCHDOWN WAS LOCATED NEAR DAUPHIN ISLAND
PARKWAY...DUVAL STREET AND HALLS MILL ROAD...WHERE IT INITIALLY
MOVED NORTHWESTWARD. THE TORNADO CONTINUED NORTHWARD TO NEAR THE
INTERSECTIONS OF HOLCOMB AVENUE...GOVERNMENT STREET AND DAUPHIN
ISLAND PARKWAY WHERE IT PRODUCED DAMAGE CONSISTENT WITH AN EF-1
TORNADO...DAMAGING SEVERAL COMMERCIAL RETAILERS. THE TORNADO
CONTINUED NORTHWARD...DAMAGING HOMES AND PRODUCING ROOF DAMAGE
TO NUMEROUS HOMES. IT THEN REACHED MURPHY HIGH SCHOOL...WHERE
IT DESTROYED SEVERAL OUT-BUILDINGS...BLEW OUT WINDOWS AND PRODUCED
SIGNIFICANT ROOF DAMAGE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. FROM HERE...THE
TORNADO TRACKED NORTHWARD TO DAUPHIN STREET WHERE IT STRENGTHENED
AND WIDENED TO 200 YARDS PRODUCING DAMAGE CONSISTENT WITH AN EF-2
TORNADO TO SEVERAL HOMES. ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED WAS THE
TRINITY EPISCOPAL CHURCH ON DAUPHIN STREET. THE TORNADO THEN
MOVED INTO THE SILVERWOOD STREET AREA WHERE IT PRODUCED EF-1
DAMAGE AND SPORADIC EF-2 DAMAGE TO SEVERAL HOMES. THE TORNADO
NEXT TRACKED NORTH NORTHEAST ACROSS THE MOBILE INFIRMARY HOSPITAL
...WHERE IT BLEW OUT SEVERAL WINDOWS AND DAMAGED SEVERAL
AUTOMOBILES...AS WELL AS FLIPPING ONE AUTOMOBILE. THE TORNADO
CONTINUED TRACKING NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS INTERSTATE 165 MOVING
INTO THE PRICHARD AREA WHERE IT PRODUCED DAMAGE TO THE ROOFS OF
SEVERAL HOMES...AS WELL AS SNAPPING SEVERAL TREES. THE TORNADO
CONTINUED ACROSS TELEGRAPH ROAD WHERE IT TOSSED SEVERAL LARGE
SHIPPING CONTAINERS AND DAMAGED A WAREHOUSE FACILITY BEFORE
DISSIPATING ON JAKES LANE IN PRICHARD


That was the best looking EF2 200 yrd wide tornado that I have ever seen.
38*F in Macon this morning, no snow. :(
197. VR46L
gee there was alot of damage in so many states yesterday,alot suffering today,all from a cold front, no hurricane etc..amazing the sheer power..of weather huh
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON WV
541 AM EST THU DEC 27 2012

KYZ101>103-105-OHZ066-067-075-076-083>087-VAZ003- 004-WVZ005>011-
013>020-024>040-046-047-271500-
GREENUP-CARTER-BOYD-LAWRENCE KY-PERRY-MORGAN-ATHENS-WASHINGTON-
JACKSON OH-VINTON-MEIGS-GALLIA-LAWRENCE OH-DICKENSON-BUCHANAN-
WAYNE-CABELL-MASON-JACKSON WV-WOOD-PLEASANTS-TYLER-LINCOLN-PUTNAM-
KANAWHA-ROANE-WIRT-CALHOUN-RITCHIE-DODDRIDGE-MING O-LOGAN-BOONE-
CLAY-BRAXTON-GILMER-LEWIS-HARRISON-TAYLOR-MCDOWEL L-WYOMING-
RALEIGH-FAYETTE-NICHOLAS-WEBSTER-UPSHUR-BARBOUR-P OCAHONTAS-
RANDOLPH-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FLATWOODS...GREENUP...GRAYSON...
OLIVE HILL...ASHLAND...LOUISA...NEW LEXINGTON...CROOKSVILLE...
SOMERSET...MCCONNELSVILLE...STOCKPORT...ATHENS... MARIETTA...
BELPRE...JACKSON...WELLSTON...OAK HILL...MCARTHUR...HAMDEN...
POMEROY...GALLIPOLIS...IRONTON...SOUTH POINT...CLINTWOOD...
GRUNDY...VANSANT...KENOVA...CEREDO...WAYNE...HUNT INGTON...
POINT PLEASANT...NEW HAVEN...RAVENSWOOD...RIPLEY...PARKERSBURG...
VIENNA...ST. MARYS...BELMONT...PADEN CITY...SISTERSVILLE...
MIDDLEBOURNE...HARTS...ALUM CREEK...HAMLIN...TEAYS VALLEY...
HURRICANE...CHARLESTON...SOUTH CHARLESTON...SAINT ALBANS...
SPENCER...ELIZABETH...GRANTSVILLE...HARRISVILLE.. .PENNSBORO...
WEST UNION...WILLIAMSON...LOGAN...CHAPMANVILLE...MAN... MADISON...
CLAY...SUTTON...GASSAWAY...BURNSVILLE...GLENVILLE ...WESTON...
CLARKSBURG...BRIDGEPORT...GRAFTON...WELCH...GARY. ..WAR...
MULLENS...OCEANA...PINEVILLE...BECKLEY...FAYETTEV ILLE...
SUMMERSVILLE...RICHWOOD...CRAIGSVILLE...WEBSTER SPRINGS...
BUCKHANNON...PHILIPPI...BELINGTON...MARLINTON...E LKINS
541 AM EST THU DEC 27 2012

...EXTRA CAUTION SHOULD BE USED WHEN TRAVELING THIS MORNING...

SNOW SHOWERS AND ISOLATED PATCHES OF FREEZING DRIZZLE ARE POSSIBLE
THIS MORNING. IN ADDITION...WITH TEMPERATURES CURRENTLY BELOW
FREEZING...SIDEWALKS AND ROADWAYS THAT WERE WET FROM EARLIER
RAIN MAY FREEZE AND BECOME SLICK. BRIDGES AND OTHER ELEVATED
SURFACES TYPICALLY FREEZE FIRST.

TRAVELERS SHOULD EXERCISE CAUTION AND SLOW DOWN...ALLOWING EXTRA
TIME TO REACH THEIR DESTINATIONS...AND LEAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE
BETWEEN VEHICLES.

$$
45 at this time in WPB!!:)
Brad Panovich ‏@wxbrad
Last year snow fall coverage v's This year snow fall coverage.

Sorry if this has been already posted...

Quoting SFLWeatherman:
45 at this time in WPB!!:)
Quoting SFLWeatherman:
45 at this time in WPB!!:)
With the snow cover so far down in the states, there is a real good chance we here in florida will have a REAL winter this year, and IF..the snow cover comes further southward we may even see snow flurries here LOL...tomorrow they say here by me 40 whew maybe 39?
Quoting aspectre:
18 kwgirl: If you are referring to the red bird in the above photos, those are called Cardinals. They are probably the same species of your waxwing.

Being of the same species implies an ability to breed and produce fertile offspring.
Cardinals and waxwings can't interbreed.
Cardinal&Allies and Waxwing&Allies are in entirely separate clades on the Phylogenetic Tree of Birds

Cardinals are ~15degrees below due right on the outer branches.
Waxwings are ~5degrees right of due bottom.
Good morning. I knew when I put that comment up there, that there would be an "expert" birder or scientist out there to tell me I am wrong. They can't be too far apart on the "Tree of Birds". They look too much alike. And why can't they breed? Isn't that how different types of birds evolve, by cross breeding?

LOL, I enjoy watching birds and was gong to volunteer to count bird species. However, when I went to the presentation on how to count, I realized that all the little different types of warblers look the same to me. Locally, they are all called "chippies". I would have been a HUGE failure at stating the correct type of bird, and really messed up the census.
Quoting SFLWeatherman:
45 at this time in WPB!!:)
It is absolutely beautiful outside
207. VR46L
Quoting LargoFl:
With the snow cover so far down in the states, there is a real good chance we here in florida will have a REAL winter this year, and IF..the snow cover comes further southward we may even see snow flurries here LOL...tomorrow they say here by me 40 whew maybe 39?


Are you happy at that thought ?
Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning. I knew when I put that comment up there, that there would be an "expert" birder or scientist out there to tell me I am wrong. They can't be too far apart on the "Tree of Birds". They look too much alike. And why can't they breed? Isn't that how different types of birds evolve, by cross breeding?

LOL, I enjoy watching birds and was gong to volunteer to count bird species. However, when I went to the presentation on how to count, I realized that all the little different types of warblers look the same to me. Locally, they are all called "chippies". I would have been a HUGE failure at stating the correct type of bird, and really messed up the census.
kwgirl.... Guess we are so used to seeing, Ibis, Egrets, and the noisy Mockingbird... I never understood why Florida made the Mockingbird the state bird... Noisy, and have been know to attack if you get close to their nest...I love the Snowy Egret... That would be my choice.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Sorry if this has been already posted...



Well I hadn't seen it anyway! Like the guy with the shopping cart about to leave....and then stopping and just backing up through the store!
Quoting VR46L:


Are you happy at that thought ?
wel i guess it would be nice to see a snow flurry or two, I doubt any sticking stuff on the ground here, but maybe to my north it could possibly...just walked the dogs, and they say its 50 here now..feels a whole lot colder than that.. whew the air itself is frosty LOL
Quoting VR46L:


Are you happy at that thought ?


Well I don't know about Largo, but the thought of snow in Fort Myers definately does not appeal to me. I may have to move to the Keys where kwgirl is. If it snows in Key West I don't know where I'd move next. May San Diego??
is any one else having trouple getting the gfs model run
YES!
Quoting belizeit:
is any one else having trouple getting the gfs model run
lol
Quoting FtMyersgal:


Well I don't know about Largo, but the thought of snow in Fort Myers definately does not appeal to me. I may have to move to the Keys where kwgirl is. If it snows in Key West I don't know where I'd move next. May San Diego??
Quoting LargoFl:
wel i guess it would be nice to see a snow flurry or two, I doubt any sticking stuff on the ground here, but maybe to my north it could possibly...just walked the dogs, and they say its 50 here now..feels a whole lot colder than that.. whew the air itself is frosty LOL
LOL im with you on that one
It is rare for there to be snow in Florida. The reason that snow so rarely occurs in this U.S. state is that freezing temperatures in Florida are generally caused by the cold and dry winds of anticyclones. Frost is more common than snow, requiring temperatures of 45°F (7°C) or less at 2 metres (7 ft) above sea level, a cloudless sky, and a relative humidity of 65% or more.[1] In the general case, for snow to occur, the polar jet stream must move southward through Texas and into the Gulf of Mexico, with a stalled cold front across the southern portion of the state curving northeastward to combine freezing air into the frontal clouds.[2]

Much of the known information on snow in Florida prior to 1900 is from weather climatology provided by the Jacksonville National Weather Service; for this reason, information for other locations is sparse.[1] The earliest recorded instance of snow in Florida was a snowstorm that occurred in 1774; being unaccustomed to snow, some residents called it "extraordinary white rain."[1] The first White Christmas in Jacksonville's history resulted from a snowfall that occurred on December 23, 1989.[2] The most recent occurrence of snow in Florida took place on January 9, 2011, when sleet was reported in the counties of Escambia and Santa Rosa.[3]
217. VR46L
Quoting FtMyersgal:


Well I don't know about Largo, but the thought of snow in Fort Myers definately does not appeal to me. I may have to move to the Keys where kwgirl is. If it snows in Key West I don't know where I'd move next. May San Diego??


I would laugh my head off 40 degrees north of you and next to no chance of snow .LOL. :)

My Bad Sorry Gal .. I would be surprised if it made it that far south
Local Met just said most area's around me will have frost tomorrow..
Reunion RSMC
Tropical Cyclone Outlook
16:00 PM RET December 27 2012
===============================

Southwest of Diego Garcia : last animated satellite pictures and surface observations suggest a poorly defined circulation approximately located near 08S 71E at 09Z. Estimated mean sea low pressure is about 1005 hPa. Incomplete ASCAT data suggest 10-15 knots maximum winds in the eastern semi-circle of the low level circulation. Currently the circulation is undergoing marginal environmental conditions. Lower level convergence is indirect equatorward (due to near equatorial westerly flow), and the trade inflow is moderate (due to a weakness in the subtropical anticyclonic belt). In altitude, the easterly upper level wind shear is moderate (20 knots according to the CIMSS data), north of the upper troposphere ridge.

The last available numerical weather prediction models hold on to forecast the deepening of this low, with a general west southwestward movement for the next 3 days. Lower levels convergence may improve progressively. Up to Saturday, the limiting factor for the development of this low should be the upper level wind shear. On and after Sunday morning, the conditions may become more conducive for development as the shear is expected to decrease.

At the extreme East of the basin : morning ASCAT data suggest an 10-15 knots, elongated low level circulation, located near 4.5S 88.5E, within a convective active area. Mean sea level pressure is estimated at 1004 hPa. Current environmental conditions are marginal in the lower levels (indirect inflow equatorward, and weak trade inflow southward), and aloft (moderate northeasterly vertical wind shear). Available numerical weather prediction models forecast a southward movement and a slow deepening within the next three days, due to persistent marginal environmental conditions.

For the area south-west of Diego Garcia, the potential for the development of a tropical
depression is poor to fair up to Saturday, and becomes good on Sunday.

For the area at the extreme east of the basin, the potential for the development of a tropical depression is poor for the next 3 days.
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #29
TROPICAL STORM WUKONG (T1225)
21:00 PM JST December 27 2012
===============================

SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon In South China Sea

At 12:00 PM UTC, Tropical Storm Wukong (1002 hPa) located at 10.1N 114.8E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west at 10 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5

Gale Force Winds
===============
90 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
========================
24 HRS: 8.2N 109.5E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm) South China Sea
48 HRS: 6.4N 106.4E - Tropical Depression In South China Sea
Fiji Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #3
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05F
0:00 AM FST December 28 2012
====================================

At 12:00 PM UTC, Tropical Depression 05F (1002 hPa) located at 9.0S 162.9E has 10 minute sustained winds of 20 knots. The depression is reported as moving south southwest at 13 knots. Position poor based on hourly GMS enhanced infrared radar imagery with animation and peripheral surface reports.

Organization has improved slightly in the last 24 hours. Convection has increased near the system in the past 24 hours. Low level circulation center difficult to locate. System lies under an upper diffluent region in a low sheared environment. The cyclonic circulation extends up to 700 HPA. Sea surface temperature is around 30C.

Most global models agree on a southwest movement with further intensification.

Forecast and Intensity
==========================
12 HRS: 9.8S 162.3E - 25 knots (Tropical Depression)
24 HRS: 10.5S 161.7E - 30 knots (Tropical Depression)
48 HRS: 12.2S 161.2E - 50 knots (CAT 2/Tropical Cyclone)
Quoting FtMyersgal:


Well I don't know about Largo, but the thought of snow in Fort Myers definately does not appeal to me. I may have to move to the Keys where kwgirl is. If it snows in Key West I don't know where I'd move next. May San Diego??
FtMyersgal....I absolutely love Key West, but I couldn't live there... I need the Targets, Walmarts, and the malls.... But I do make a trek there twice a year...
well in 1977 Tampa got a half an inch of snow..........


94P (05F) forecast track from RSMC Nadi
HMMM...NO THANK YOU..............LOL.............
almost cold enough for snow in the panhandle huh....
our friends in Texas may get showers, they need rain...
Quoting kwgirl:
They can't be too far apart on the "Tree of Birds". They look too much alike.


Actually, they can be - there's a phenomenon called "convergent evolution". If two different species are evolving to fill the same niche, they might select for the same traits and thus end up looking similar in one or more regards even though they're totally unrelated. For a human analogy, it's sort of how the Mayans are culturally unrelated to the Egyptians but both built pyramids - they had the same outside force directing their construction projects (that of, "I want to build a large building to show how awesome I am, but whenever I try with sheer walls, it collapses!")

Now, that's not true in this case - they actually *are* related ;) The cardinal family and the waxwing family are not only in the same order, but the same suborder - Passeri (the Passeriformes) - and the same suborder basal group - Passerida. Passeriformes a suborder of what are generally small perching songbirds and is somewhat diverse, also including, for example, the corvines (crows, ravens, jays), birds of paradise, etc. The basal group is more specific but still includes things like sparrows, swallows, finches, mockingbirds, starlings, wrens, etc.

Quoting kwgirl:
And why can't they breed? Isn't that how different types of birds evolve, by cross breeding?


Lol, evolution is an extremely complex topic, but broadly, no. Can you breed with, say, a fiddler crab? Once two groups evolve enough away from each other, they can no longer interbreed. This is called speciation - in general, once anything stops a subgroup from breeding with each other for long enough, random mutations will eventually make it impossible to do so. There's many different mechanisms which bring it about - allopatric (a species gets divided up by a new geological barrier), peripatric (a part of a species goes off and colonizes a new niche elsewhere, with a geological barrier preventing them from breeding), sympatric (there is no barrier, but two very different niches start being pursued by the same species in the same area), and parapatric (a cross between peripatric and sympatric).

With birds the species-level is often finer-grained than most people would expect from appearances - probably because flight makes it easier go off and get yourself isolated. People are used to say, dogs, which are a single species but incredibly diverse in terms of appearances. But even members of the same genus of true parrots for example (let alone all true parrots, let alone all parrots period!) can't interbreed. You can't, for example, breed a Congo African Grey with a Timneh African Grey.

And it's actually weirder than that because there's actually what's called "ring species". The classic example is the Larus gulls, which are a genus of seagull which live in the far north. The ones in western Asia, which can breed with those in central Asia, which can breed with those in eastern Asia, which can breed with those in far eastern Asia, which can breed with those in Alaska and Canada, which can breed with those in Europe... but those in Europe generally can't breed with those in western Asia! But it's even more complicated than that, because the "classic" example is itself not a pure ring species. It's more like a "web" of what can breed and interbreed because there's other Larus gulls that don't fit neatly into the chain.

And then you get into questions of, "what defines the ability to interbreed?" If you could do it in the lab, are they different species? If you could do it with artificial insemination, but they can't do it on their own because their "parts" no longer fit or other issues of "physics"? Or if they're fully capable of it but simply due to changes in sexual selection choose not to any more? What if they'll breed together in captivity but not the wild? And for a more extreme example, what about species that don't even *breed*, like parthenogenic whiptail lizards?

And at what point do you say that something is no longer capable of "breeding"? Does there have to be *no* fertilization? Fertilization but no carrying to term? Carrying to term but sterility (for example, a mule)? Well even that is tricky because a small percentage of mules are fertile! Clearly if horses and donkeys could produce fertile offspring 100% of the time we'd call them one species, like we do with dogs despite their differences in appearance. Clearly the low (fraction of a percent) fertility rate is insufficient to be called one species. So what's the cutoff percent?

And hey, back to the issue of dogs - given all of the above, one would doubt that the physics of a great dane trying to mate with a chihuahua would work very well. So should they really be one species? Or perhaps a ring species?

As I said, evolution and taxonomy can be complicated ;)
For all the snowlovers here in the northeast,we can root for the ECMWF model.

SATURDAY...
THIS IS WHERE THE DRAMA BUILDS AS THE NEW 00Z ECMWF GOES BONKERS
WITH EXPLOSIVE CYCLOGENESIS SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND. AT 06Z SUN THE
ECMWF AS A 972 LOW OVER THE 40N/70W BENCHMARK AND FURTHER BOMBING
TO ABOUT 959 MB JUST SOUTH OF NOVA SCOTIA 18Z SUN! THIS RAPID
DEEPENING GENERATES QPF OFF THE CHARTS WITH STORM TOTAL OF 2+
/LIQUID/ OVER CAPE COD!
WASH D.C is windy today huh..................
...WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 9 AM THIS MORNING TO 6 PM
EST THIS EVENING...

* TIMING...FROM MID MORNING THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON.

* WINDS...NORTHWEST 25 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH.

* IMPACTS...DOWNED TREES AND POWERLINES WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM
THE HIGHER WIND GUSTS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WIND ADVISORY MEANS THAT WIND GUSTS OF 45 TO 55 MPH ARE
EXPECTED. WINDS THIS STRONG CAN MAKE DRIVING DIFFICULT...
ESPECIALLY FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES.

&&
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
FtMyersgal....I absolutely love Key West, but I couldn't live there... I need the Targets, Walmarts, and the malls.... But I do make a trek there twice a year...


Well, I don't do Walmarts but I would miss Target! LOL
On second thought, I'm not sure I could do California. Great climate but their ecomomy is more messed up that ours in Florida
Quoting FtMyersgal:


Well, I don't do Walmarts but I would miss Target! LOL
On second thought, I'm not sure I could do California. Great climate but their ecomomy is more messed up that ours in Florida
and lets not forget..in California..the ground shakes and moves under your feet lol..NTY I'll stay right here gee..imagine laying in bed at night..and your bed starts shaking, windows rattling..nope in florida I stay
i got this off the weather channel snow for the south wed. night. most likly wrong this far out.
Sort of worried about my new apartment near Albany ny. I'm out of town so I don't know how much snow or how heavy/wet it is at my exact location. I've seen reports anywhere fro 6 to 16 inches and still snowing! By the way. Does anyone have a long loop gif radar from euclid? Thanks.
Quoting hericane96:
i got this off the weather channel snow for the south wed. night. most likly wrong this far out.
well the temps are down at night, cold enough for snow, especially north of tampa bay..the panhandle and georgia etc could..see some white stuff with that cold front coming friday into the weekend..we'll see....i rreally do not want to see snow cover on ground come all the way to the gulf states..wow
Quoting winter123:
Sort of worried about my new apartment near Albany ny. I'm out of town so I don't know how much snow or how heavy/wet it is at my exact location. I've seen reports anywhere fro 6 to 16 inches and still snowing! By the way. Does anyone have a long loop gif radar from euclid? Thanks.
..............well here is the weather report out of Albany NY..............WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM EST THIS
EVENING...

* LOCATIONS...SOUTHERN ADIRONDACK REGION...MOHAWK VALLEY...LAKE
GEORGE SARATOGA REGION...CAPITAL DISTRICT...NORTHERN AND CENTRAL
TACONICS...SCHOHARIE VALLEY...HELDERBERGS...EASTERN
CATSKILLS...BERKSHIRES AND SOUTHERN VERMONT.

* HAZARD TYPES...PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW...POSSIBLY
MIXING WITH SOME SLEET OR FREEZING RAIN AT TIMES THIS MORNING
ACROSS THE BERKSHIRES...SOUTHERN VERMONT...AND THE TACONICS.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 3 TO 6
INCHES...EXCEPT 4 TO 8 INCHES ACROSS THE WESTERN MOHAWK
VALLEY...SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS...EASTERN CATSKILLS...SCHOHARIE
VALLEY AND HELDERBERGS.

* ICE ACCUMULATIONS...A COATING UP TO ONE TENTH OF AN INCH ACROSS
PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN VERMONT...THE BERKSHIRES...TACONICS...AND
VALLEY AREAS SOUTH OF ALBANY.

* MAXIMUM SNOWFALL RATES...BRIEF INTERMITTENT BURSTS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES
OF SNOW PER HOUR THROUGH NOONTIME...AND GENERALLY UNDER ONE INCH
PER HOUR THIS AFTERNOON.

* TIMING...PERIODS OF SNOW...MODERATE TO HEAVY AT TIMES...WILL
CONTINUE ACROSS THE WARNING AREAS THROUGH THIS MORNING. THE SNOW
WILL GRADUALLY DECREASE IN INTENSITY FROM WEST TO EAST THIS
AFTERNOON. AN ADDITIONAL 3 TO 6 INCHES IS EXPECTED THROUGH
NOONTIME IN MOST AREAS...EXCEPT FOR 4 TO 8 INCHES ACROSS HIGHER
ELEVATIONS OF THE SOUTHERN ADIRONDACKS...EASTERN CATSKILLS AND
HELDERBERGS. AN ADDITIONAL 1 TO 3 INCHES IS POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON.

* IMPACTS...HEAVY ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW...SLEET AND LIGHT
ACCUMULATIONS OF ICE WILL MAKE FOR DANGEROUS TRAVEL THROUGH
THURSDAY.

* VISIBILITIES...FREQUENTLY BELOW 1 MILE IN MODERATE TO HEAVY
SNOW...WITH INTERMITTENT PERIODS BELOW ONE HALF MILE.

* WINDS...NORTH TO NORTHEAST AT 10 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35
MPH POSSIBLE ACROSS HIGHER ELEVATIONS.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE UPPER 20S TO LOWER 30S.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW...
SLEET...AND ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. STRONG WINDS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE. THIS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE.

&&

$$
Must be real icy up in nyc and suburbs.............A Tampa-bound flight from Long Island, New York veered off its runway before takeoff Thursday morning.

According to police in Suffolk County, Long Island, Southwest Flight 4695 veered off the runway at MacArthur Airport while taxiing. It veered onto a grassy area.

No injuries were reported.

The flight was scheduled to land in Tampa at 9:15 a.m.

It will be delayed until 2:45 p.m., according to the airline.
Quoting KarenRei:


Actually, they can be - there's a phenomenon called "convergent evolution". So should they really be one species? Or perhaps a ring species?

As I said, evolution and taxonomy can be complicated ;)


Thank you KarenRei for that in-depth explanation..
I think I actually understood it..
Thanks for sharing.
here is the weather for thursday in jackson.Link
NEW*** WINTER WEATHER UPDATE....
__________________________________

Potential nor'easter could bring big NYC snowfall this Saturday

Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
NEW*** WINTER WEATHER UPDATE....
__________________________________

Potential nor'easter could bring big NYC snowfall this Saturday



Thanks Max..
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
kwgirl.... Guess we are so used to seeing, Ibis, Egrets, and the noisy Mockingbird... I never understood why Florida made the Mockingbird the state bird... Noisy, and have been know to attack if you get close to their nest...I love the Snowy Egret... That would be my choice.
Maybe the Mockingbird was most abundant when the decision was made to name a state bird. After all, they are in every part of Florida. Not too sure if the snowy egret is though. I like mockingbirds. They are funny, sassy and they are smart. One year I had a mockingbird nest in the mahogony tree in the front yard of my house. It never attacked, but would scream "cat" whenever the neighbor's cat was in the vicinity. I would go out and chase the cat away if it was in my yard. Then one time I heard them screaming "cat" and went outside to see what was going on. The cat was in the crotch of the tree, with both parents on either side of it screaming cat. I chased it down from the tree and my dog chased the cat out of the yard. After the fledglings had flown life became somewhat normal again in the yard. One day my dog was barking at a large dog on the other side of the fence. Suddenly a mockingbird lands on the fence and starts attacking the dog outside the fence to drive it away. I think the bird was doing us a favor to drive the dog away as we (me and my dog) drove the cat away. One good turn, etc. I love their songs and love to watch them trying to attract a mate.
1 KM Visible Satellite for Florida




Move that low southwest into the gulf and deepen it a lot please!
I WANT SNOW!:

ECMWF has a decent snowstorm for the coastal Northeast. Widespread half a foot totals across New Jersey would occur with this, with isolated locations picking up over a foot.

Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
ECMWF has a decent snowstorm for the coastal Northeast. Widespread half a foot totals across New Jersey would occur with this, with isolated locations picking up over a foot.



a.k.a post# 243
Quoting LargoFl:
Must be real icy up in nyc and suburbs.............A Tampa-bound flight from Long Island, New York veered off its runway before takeoff Thursday morning.

According to police in Suffolk County, Long Island, Southwest Flight 4695 veered off the runway at MacArthur Airport while taxiing. It veered onto a grassy area.

No injuries were reported.

The flight was scheduled to land in Tampa at 9:15 a.m.

It will be delayed until 2:45 p.m., according to the airline.


Actually, the temps were in the mid-40s overnight & earlier this morning here on Long Island; we only got a few snow/sleetflakes early yesterday from the storm, and the rest has all been rain.
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Move that low southwest into the gulf and deepen it a lot please!
I WANT SNOW!:





you cant have it its mine snow


Stumble Upon

Current Jet Stream
I'm hearing from local mets that we could see some pretty good snow Saturday.I'm hoping!.BTW it feels as though a tropical storm is hitting us right now.Those winds are howling right now.I recorded a gust of 45mph in the last 20 minutes.
Quoting pcola57:

Suface Wind

Current Jet Stream



the windmap isnt the real one, its just an image they have on that page as an example.

There currently is no southerly jet over the Eastern US or large low in TX
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
ECMWF has a decent snowstorm for the coastal Northeast. Widespread half a foot totals across New Jersey would occur with this, with isolated locations picking up over a foot.

This one is better http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/satellite/goes _ecan_1070_100.jpg
AS THE SURFACE CYCLONE DEVELOPS IN THE WESTERN GOMEX...OVERRUNNING
PRECIPITATION WILL SPREAD FROM WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE TENNESSEE
VALLEY ON FRIDAY AS THE MID AND UPPER LEVEL JET CARVES INTO THE
REGION. THE HEAVIEST AND MOST WIDESPREAD RAINFALL DURING THE DAY ON
FRIDAY SHOULD BE WEST OF INTERSTATE 65...WITH PRECIPITATION RAPIDLY
COATING THE ENTIRE CWFA FRIDAY NIGHT AS THE SURFACE LOW SLIDES TOWARD
CENTRAL ALABAMA. FORECASTING SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THAT THE PRECIPITATION
SHOULD BE LARGELY LIQUID FOR THE DURATION OF THE
EVENT...HOWEVER...CANNOT COMPLETELY DISCOUNT THE POSSIBILITY OF A
SMALL AMOUNT OF SLEET MIXING IN AT THE ONSET OF PRECIPITATION GIVEN
THE DRY AIR IN THE LOWER LEVELS. AS THE BASE OF THE H5 TROUGH SLIDES
THROUGH THE CWFA AROUND MIDDAY SATURDAY AND BRINGS COOLER PROFILES TO
THE TENNESSEE VALLEY...MAY SEE A FEW FLAKES MIX INTO THE LIGHT RAIN
SHOWERS FOR AREAS NORTH OF THE TENNESSEE RIVER...BUT CHANCES ARE TOO
LOW TO INCLUDE ATTM.



all light sleet, light flurries, lotta rain, and no snow
So how much snow would D.C get from this storm on Saturday according to the ECWMF?
Typical winter down here, snow eludes, while cold rains fall:

OFTEN TIMES SPLIT
FLOW PATTERNS IN WINTER CAN DELIVER OUR REGION WINTRY WEATHER
RISKS...BUT I HAVE SEEN NO MODEL SOLUTIONS THAT SHOW ANYTHING WORSE
THAN A VERY COLD RAIN AT TIMES.
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
Quoting kanshadow:


Actually, the temps were in the mid-40s overnight & earlier this morning here on Long Island; we only got a few snow/sleetflakes early yesterday from the storm, and the rest has all been rain.
ok TY for the update, good thing no one was injured..