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By: Fshhead , 10:18 PM GMT on February 19, 2008

Since there is quite a few blogs going now on Global warming, I am going to start focusing on the new technology to break us away from fossil fuel use in this country. There are many other reasons than GW why we as a nation should be really focusing on making the switch!!


"There are so many arguments proving & disputing global warming that people can't seem to agree completly on it. But for all the preperations that we make for hurricanes & other disasters, what do we have to lose if we prepare for global warming as if the worst might come true?
The answer is pure common sense. We should try to eliminate the variables that cause global warming instead of just arguing about it. It's like a hurricane- if we prepare for the worst, it can only save lives & money. If it does not come, no one will have been hurt & we may even have a healthier Earth."


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951. moonlightcowboy
4:08 AM CDT on May 21, 2008
Test - the blogs are still acting up.
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950. moonlightcowboy
1:54 AM CDT on May 21, 2008
Thanks, Fish! I'll check it out soon, have it bookmarked. It said about 1 cent per mile, but that was also based on incentives. I'll do some more reading and see how apples to apples compare.

But, based on that, let's just say for the time being: avg car gets 20 mpg. $4 gl = 20 miles, or about 20 cents per mile, Thats 20x's more expensive according to that. But, I'll try to get more specific.

The 2006 avg kw hr cost is about 9 cents.
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949. Fshhead
6:53 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
Electrical Cost To Charge the Tesla Batteries

MLC,
If this does not answer your question go to the site & look around a bit. They have a wealth of info on there! As a matter of fact I remember reading that they had hooked up with the State of Cali. to set up recharging stations there...
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948. moonlightcowboy
1:30 AM CDT on May 21, 2008
Fish, are there any specs on any of these new EVs that shows how many kilowatts of charging time it takes for a full re-charge of batteries? Electricity is sold by the kilowatt, I think. And, I'm sure it wouldn't take much researching to see what the avg kw price is. Obviously, too, right now at least, EVs are expensive; but, at some point should come in somewhere around double the price, maybe, of a really fancy golf cart. Of course, yes, there would be initial secondary infrastructure costs, too, like receptacles, fittings, etc; but, that would level out eventually. I guess my point is this: what is the estimated re-charging cost of an EV? And, then, compare that to a tank of gas/mileage.

You may have already looked at all this, and if I've missed it, plz forgive me. Just reference or point me, and I'll go find it. TIA
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947. Fshhead
6:14 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
If you guys have not realized it yet, the reason the carmakers are wanting to go to ethanol is that they still get to keep their internal combustion engine & all the money they make off parts that are necessary for them.(exhaust systems,tune-up parts, spark plugs, cooling systems, oil changes etc....)
THAT in my opinion is the biggest reason they are dragging their feet on electrics.

G'Nite SP, THANX for stopping by!!!
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946. sp34n119w
11:04 PM PDT on May 20, 2008
Not only that, mlc, but many municipalities have EV fleets and, therefore, have charging stations around the city. So, you wouldn't have to worry about running out of charge.
It's simple to do because electricity is everywhere. Wish someone would get on that...

'nite
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945. moonlightcowboy
12:50 AM CDT on May 21, 2008
There's really an electric grid already where people live and work, now, isn't there? Just makes senses, the infrastructure is basically already here. Plug and play!
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944. sp34n119w
10:45 PM PDT on May 20, 2008
AH HAH!!! I knew there was something else to hate about corn ethanol!! >:-[

That settles it then - electric all the way and I'll just get my corn nuts from the guy with the push cart and the little bell that drives me crazy every day anyway.
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943. Fshhead
5:38 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
LOL Ummmm the bigger question is if we went to total corn ethanol, where you gonna get the corn for the corn nuts????? They would be a luxury item like caviar lol
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942. sp34n119w
10:28 PM PDT on May 20, 2008
See, that's why the CA40 makes sense. Yet, no, I haven't tried it :-/

That article is a really good "in-a-nutshell" look at hydrogen vs. electric. I'm thoroughly behind EVs and not too keen on hydrogen fuel cells.
The hydrogen hype is similar to the ethanol hype - both are ways for existing fuel companies and distributors to maintain their stranglehold on transportation.
OMG, I just realized - if we switch to EVs all the gas station/convenience stores would go out of business! Where would I get my corn nuts?!
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941. Fshhead
5:08 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
Are hydrogen cars worth the hype?

"Considering that electric cars have the same benefits of hydrogen cars, plus the technology is equally or more advanced, the fuel is readily available, and the infrastructure is already in place, electric vehicles are a far more promising technology. It's possible that a technological breakthrough - such as the hydrogen from aluminum alloy process - could make hydrogen cars competetive with electric vehicles, but EVs are currently the more promising technology."

Link

Some pretty good points there on what I feel is the direction we should be headed & are already leaning towards.
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940. Fshhead
4:58 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
Good question there lol
I know this is what the Ca40 website says the reason theirs works..

It is actually a combustion enhancer. Usually only about half of the hydrocarbons in fuel are burned in an internal combustion engine. Combustion enhancement is attained through further oxidation of the un-burnt hydrocarbons in the fuel.

There are three things that are needed in combustion: fuel, oxygen and ignition. CA-40 suspends within the hydrocarbons and further allows oxygen and fuel to be held together (fuel and oxygen). The third component of ignition is accomplished due to the thermo-electric and Piezo-electric properties of the calcium in CA-40. When combustion occurs in the engine, the heat and pressure causes the electrons in the calcium to accelerate. This acceleration provides the ignition (spark) in the proximity of the hydrocarbons resulting in further oxidation (burning) of the hydrocarbons. The end result is a longer, stronger push on the piston, causing an increase in horsepower (see Diesel Dyno test page).


Basically same priciple I guess, making the gas burn more efficiently..
Ca40 Fuel Additive
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939. sp34n119w
9:50 PM PDT on May 20, 2008
The thing is, it says that the hydrogen itself doesn't do anything - that it doesn't burn hydrogen or use it for energy ("But is NOT about hydrogen as a source of energy"). So, if all you need is a finer mist ("What that Hydrogen does is help split the gasoline/air mixture droplets into a finer mist") couldn't you do that with some simpler gadget?
The kit also has a "pre-heating" element which probably helps fuel efficiency. Also, they suggest using another gadget to alter the mixture depending on city or highway driving.
All that can be done without a bottle of water in the engine compartment, I'm thinking. I dunno. I don't doubt that folk are getting results - I just wonder why.
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938. Fshhead
4:34 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
Hey SP,
Thats my point I made before about them overcomplicating it. Instead of shooting for running the car totally on hydrogen you use it that way. It seems pretty simple & cheap. Auburn also has said he has gotten results from it. Anything to lower our consumption at this stage of the game.
I think by now you all know what direction I feel is the best way to go. lol

Ohhh & Yea the ISS sighting was pretty cool. Think it brought the Marlins luck!!!
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937. sp34n119w
9:25 PM PDT on May 20, 2008
Hey Fsh - saw in LowerCal's blog that you spotted the ISS while at the ballgame - how cool is that?! :)

About the hydrogen gadget - it does look interesting but what do you make of this?:

""My high-school teacher said you cannot get more energy out of hydrogen to pay for the energy you have put in!?
Your teacher may have been correct. I don't know. This is NOT what we are doing here with . We do NOT try to drive our cars on Hydrogen energy. We just take EXCESS energy out of the car's battery or alternator (in other words very low current that the engine does not feel) and use this electricity to generate a very small amount of Hydrogen per minute. What that Hydrogen does is help split the gasoline/air mixture droplets into a finer mist - thus helping it burn more efficiently and more completely.

Now HOW do we do it? This is explained in my books and on this website as well. Water is being split into Hydrogen and Oxygen with a simple home-made device, and fed into the UNCONVERTED engine (same gasoline system, same computer, etc.) It's just a BOOSTER. The car does not run on Hydrogen. The car runs on gasoline!!!

In other words: the "paradox" comes from misunderstanding: you are looking into Hydrogen as a source of energy. But is NOT about hydrogen as a source of energy. It is about burning gasoline a little bit better by reducing its droplet size in the gasoline/air mixture with the help of a SMALL amount of Hydrogen+Oxygen.""

It's from the water4gas faq (section 2 #23)
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936. moonlightcowboy
11:28 PM CDT on May 20, 2008
They've got us by the balls and they know it!
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935. moonlightcowboy
11:26 PM CDT on May 20, 2008
Fish, the US economy will falter long before we're remotely close to doing anything real about energy. So, we're going to have major problems in front of and long beforehand.
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934. Fshhead
4:20 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
One more thing on the hydrogen, I am not exactly sold on the safety issue part of it. lol
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933. Fshhead
4:13 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
Hey speaking of hydrogen have you guys seen the water system that Auburn is using?? Seems pretty simple & he's getting results with it. I saw a video he showed me also where a guy was making it at his house. It looked feasible for sure. Makes you wonder if maybe all the talk about the complexitys of a hydrogen society is BS! lol
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932. moonlightcowboy
11:14 PM CDT on May 20, 2008
STL's post makes things look pretty grim - back to the dark ages we'll go!
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931. Fshhead
4:13 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
One thing for sure STL, no matter which direction we head in be it hydrogen, solar, wind, whatever, it will be expensive. No Doubt.
Also if u ask me none of them are the answer by themselves but, they all have areas where they excel & if used wisely together this

"we might be able to get the energy equivalent of 3-5 billion barrels of oil per year from alternative sources"

Just might go up!!!!!
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929. moonlightcowboy
10:58 PM CDT on May 20, 2008
Ceiling? What's that?

I don't think that exists until way past peak oil and/or new energies are found.
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928. Fshhead
3:55 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
The scary part of all this is with it rising so fast, where will the ceiling be????
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927. moonlightcowboy
10:51 PM CDT on May 20, 2008
It'll top $4.00 in a few weeks, maybe less.
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926. moonlightcowboy
10:49 PM CDT on May 20, 2008
Fish, I remember being upset when it took $30 to fill it up. It'd be nice to have that again, but those days have long gone now!
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925. Fshhead
3:26 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
$3.60?, lucky indeed!!!!
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924. moonlightcowboy
10:18 PM CDT on May 20, 2008
Fish, I got lucky a bit ago. Went by a new pump-n-go a little while ago and filled up - $3.60 gl. Cars at every pump. Everywhere else it's $3.70 to $3.80, and mostly $3.80.

It took $58.50 to fill the tank. I remember when I could fill that tank for $28.00. I bought the car, 2000 model 3 series, new in July of 2000. That would've put gas at some point at around $1.72 gl, if my memory serves me. I used to not pay that much attention to it.
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923. Fshhead
2:57 AM GMT on May 21, 2008
Oil settles above $129 for first time
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921. Fshhead
6:19 PM GMT on May 20, 2008
Yeeeeeaaaa, THANX for the "great" news there you guys!!!! Be back in a minute, I need to hurl lol Seriously THANX for posting the somber news today.
Hey Sully, I also saw the bad news you posted in the Doc's blog about Senator Kennedy. :(
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920. sullivanweather
12:33 PM EDT on May 20, 2008
I already am.

I went and checked the news and saw the "above 129" headline.

Also of note is Gasoline futures now up to 3.30/gallon...

After taxes that equals 4.25 a gallon at the least. End of June I bet some places will be up to 4.75/gallon retail.
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919. moonlightcowboy
11:32 AM CDT on May 20, 2008
LOL, Sully! Fish is gonna hurl!
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918. sullivanweather
12:28 PM EDT on May 20, 2008
I'm sure Fish is going to be sooo happy to wake up to this stuff on his blog. (/snark)
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917. moonlightcowboy
11:21 AM CDT on May 20, 2008
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...here we go! Good grief!


I see Sully beat me to the post, but hey, we needed a visual! Uuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhh!!!
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916. sullivanweather
11:54 AM EDT on May 20, 2008
Dave,

The hydrogen economy

I think it's posted at the top of Fishs' blog but in case you haven't listened to this, here it is.
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915. sullivanweather
11:52 AM EDT on May 20, 2008
Oil crosses $129 for first time, heads for $130


NEW YORK - Oil prices spiked to a new trading high Tuesday, sweeping toward $130 a barrel as supply concerns intensified the momentum buying that has lifted crude deeper into record territory.


The June contract for light, sweet crude traded as high as $129.58 on the New York Mercantile Exchange before settling back to $129.12, up $2.07. The imminent expiration of the June contract created additional volatility in the market, and raised the very real possibility that crude could hit $130 before the end of the day, when the contract was ending.

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914. robodave
12:56 AM GMT on May 20, 2008
HYDROGEN On The HORIZON:
http://www2.tbo.com

Car makers' eco-friendly claims dismissed as a 'gimmick':
http://www.independent.ie

Fshead, what you think the chances are for a hydrogen economy?
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913. Fshhead
7:08 PM GMT on May 19, 2008
Google Earth Outreach

Explains what Google Outreach does

"Today we are pleased that the British Government is launching with Google Earth Outreach, and in collaboration with the Met Office Hadley Centre and the British Antarctic Survey, new layers in Google Earth that utilize geographical information to show how climate change will affect our planet and its people."
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912. Fshhead
7:01 PM GMT on May 19, 2008
Tesla Going for IPO in 2008
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911. sullivanweather
2:31 AM EDT on May 19, 2008
Yup.

Especially with gasoline futures for June delivery, now up to $3.22 a gallon, come to the retail stations.

With taxes that'll come to $4.30 a gallon after taxes.
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910. Fshhead
6:26 AM GMT on May 19, 2008
Hey What's up Sully?
Well the race is on now!! Cal was just telling me out there everyone was holding at $3.99 scared to make the jump. One thing for sure once the 1st one does it's off to the races lol
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909. sullivanweather
2:22 AM EDT on May 19, 2008
Hey Fish!

What's going on?
Mobil, the first station to do so, went over $4 a gallon for the first time today.
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907. Fshhead
6:17 AM GMT on May 19, 2008
Hey Dave,
As a matter of fact I do use a fuel additive. I have seen the results & it DOES work *snicker* I have said it many times here that my truck NEVER got over 290 miles to a tankfull. Well Dave I have gotten as high as 330 miles after using the Ca40*snicker*
To top it all off lets look at some of what is said in your article there......

Don't you think oil and car companies aren't doing everything they can to beat their competitors?

"If BP (BP) could add something to its gasoline that made cars go farther on a gallon, cars would be lining up at the company's pumps. Sure, people would burn their fuel-saving BP gas more slowly, but then they'd drive right past rivals' gas stations to come back to BP for more. BP stations could even charge more for their gas and still sell tons of the stuff."

Yea ok, so they would miss out on the record prices that they are getting now?? Besides your forgetting that they would have to PAY for the additive, Good Luck there, cuts into profits two ways.

"Likewise, car companies are already spending big bucks to increase fuel mileage. If General Motors could make its cars go significantly farther on a gallon simply by putting a device into the fuel line, don't think for a second it wouldn't be doing that. GM's car sales would go through the roof."

This is the real good one LOL
they are spending big bucks to increase mileage??? You have got to be kiddin' me!
If they are spending these huge amounts of money then how come our economy standards are so low compared to most other countrys around the world? The rest of the statement is a total joke cause the car companies are the biggest resistance to raising the economy standards. Funny part is thats their gripe, adding some device into the fuel system is to costly & they can't do it cause it will bankrupt them.



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906. robodave
8:15 PM GMT on May 18, 2008
6 gas-saving myths
#6. Bolt-ons and pour-ins

Before you buy a device that's supposed to make your car more fuel-efficient or pour in an allegedly gas-saving additive, ask yourself this: Don't you think oil and car companies aren't doing everything they can to beat their competitors?
. . . .
Fshead, don't you use a fuel-saving additive? *snicker* Cordin' to this, you've been scammed.
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905. Fshhead
7:29 PM GMT on May 18, 2008
New Tremor Hits China Sun. final death toll to exceed 50,000

This situation just keeps getting worse & worse.
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904. Fshhead
8:14 PM GMT on May 17, 2008

Click Me!!!!
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903. Fshhead
8:03 PM GMT on May 17, 2008
Hey Cal,
Yea our premium & diesel prices are already over $4 too. The sad part of them holding at $3.99 is that those stations are really feeling the squeeze now. I keep hearing over & over how stations are not making any money due to them having to keep the prices as low as possible to compete.
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902. LowerCal
12:57 PM PDT on May 17, 2008
Hi, Fsh! I think it's a pretty safe guess the average price of regular in the Los Angeles area is $3.99. That's the price at every station I've seen, big corporation or independent discounter. No one wants to be the first to pop $4, lol. It's over $4 for the other grades and diesel though. :^\
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901. Fshhead
6:29 PM GMT on May 17, 2008
Average price for reg. gas in Miami is now at $3.87..............
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