DEBATE ON GLOBAL WARMING!{Tesla}

By: Fshhead , 7:41 PM GMT on July 12, 2007

This is my continuing blog on global warming. If you are new visitor, please look at last couple of blog entrys also on global warming!!!!







"There are so many arguments proving & disputing global warming that people can't seem to agree completly on it. But for all the preperations that we make for hurricanes & other disasters, what do we have to lose if we prepare for global warming as if the worst might come true?
The answer is pure common sense. We should try to eliminate the variables that cause global warming instead of just arguing about it. It's like a hurricane- if we prepare for the worst, it can only save lives & money. If it does not come, no one will have been hurt & we may even have a healthier Earth."


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"Who killed the electric car?"
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1650. sullivanweather
9:19 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Fish,

Emphasis should be placed on credit card companies.

They're the ones that are putting the individuals of this country into massive debt. Credit cards are issued to those whom they know will not be able to make payment (which results in default, massive interest rates, bankruptcy, etc)

You are right about oil companies, however.

I would imagine that the people racking up debt on credit cards are probably doing so due to the high price of oil (buying gasoline, heating oil, etc with credit cards cause salary wages simply don't cover cost of living)

I always wonder how those get by on a minimum wage salary paycheck to paycheck if they drive to work.
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1648. Fshhead
9:12 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Ohhhhh BTW.... I know you dont like Edwards & thats cool but, see for me I am voting with my conscience. He is the one who has talked the most about going after the oil companies. Which in my opinion would be a REAL good start to fixing the economy!
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1647. Fshhead
9:06 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
WOW I just saw the footage of the Iranian boats & the US Navy ships. I cannot believe they did not blow them out of the water! lol

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1645. Fshhead
8:56 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Vort your too funnny man! I told you before I did look into Ron Paul lol I do happen to like him too. I never said I was voting for Obama but, come on labeling him a muslim terrorist really stretching it! I like your response more at least saying you are worried about his economic views or lack of I should say.
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1643. Fshhead
8:18 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Vort, I got a better one for ya guys. Gonna go waaay off topic here & dive into politics. C'mon kids gather around for the story.....lol
This was e-mailed to me today about Barack Obama. Funny too cause I was just talking to my brother yesterday about this.lol This is one of the reasons I am straying towards Edwards. Wow only took what a week & a half? lol


Who is Barack Obama?

Very interesting and something that should be considered in your
choice.


If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all
your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us
here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.

We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM
from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from
Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two
years old, his parents divorced. Hi s father returned to Kenya. His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.?
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia. Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a
Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that
that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned
to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school
in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since
it is politically expedient to be a CH RISTIAN when seeking major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor
will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands
over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know Would you want this man leading
our country?...... NOT ME!!!


IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO GET ALL THE INFO WE CAN WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING AT ANY TIME--- SO HERE IS SOME INFO I HAD FORWARDED TO ME BY A VERY WISE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON --- I LEAVE IT TO YOU AND YOUR JUDGEMENT


Soooo I am like no freakin' way this is true, so I decide to check the snopes.com site(their supposed reference) & find out that the only TRUTH there is that the guy did not place his hand over his heart while the anthem was playing LMAO!!!!!
Snopes.com showing its lies!

I mean come on a freakin' muslim terrorist?? lmao Worst part is you know this e-mail has blanketed this country already.....
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1641. sullivanweather
8:08 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Good news for sure!

You're right about the need to start a new thread on the blog. I think you should go along the lines of conservation/renewables. The direction of this blog has definitely trended in that direction.
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1639. Fshhead
7:59 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Hey good news there Sully!!
Theres a guy at my job that has some ordered too. He has a Ford Mustang...
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1638. sullivanweather
7:16 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Hey Fish!!

My g/f and I were discussing CA-40 today and I think that we're going to give it a try.

In two weeks she said that she's going to work an extra shift at her job so we can have the extra cash on hand to make the investment.

Now we'll have your results and our results to post here.
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1637. Fshhead
7:08 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
$4 gal. gas is on the way
LOL Hey How does that gas sign look to you guys????????

Oil hits record; is $4-a-gallon gas possible by spring?

Just wondering, after seeing that sign does electrics & hybrids sound better & better, or what? lmao
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1636. Fshhead
6:44 AM GMT on January 10, 2008
Everything you ever wanted to know about CFLs but were afraid to ask

I can't believe they even have to run articles like this..
Have flourescents not been around for quite a while???lol They show what little mercury that are in them & people still complain about them.
I am wondering if people are worried about the mercury in those tiny bulbs, then what about it in the long flourescent tubes?? Also like I have pointed out many times those things have been getting smashed by kids for decades now lol
Ohhhhh & the migraine issue? lol Same deal flourescents have been around all this time & NOW they are getting migraines from them?
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1634. Fshhead
9:31 AM GMT on January 09, 2008
LOL no idea man... pretty funny though huh??
Hey Martin Eberhard has surfaced a little!!
Has a blog going too...
Tesla Founders Blog
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1633. sullivanweather
9:16 AM GMT on January 09, 2008
What is it with these folks named 'Lonnie'?
LOL
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1632. Fshhead
9:09 AM GMT on January 09, 2008
Guy who invented the super soaker is inventing a 60% efficient solar engine!
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1631. gberet69
5:40 PM EST on January 08, 2008
Hi: Fsh
Records fell today in mid-coast Maine, the temp of 36 for a low saw a record high, and the days high temp was 56. We've lost 1/2 our snow pack and the roof is bare. A warm sunny day with great solar gain, we will use no wood, oil and a little K-1 tonight.
Ron
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1630. Fshhead
7:28 PM GMT on January 08, 2008

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1629. Fshhead
2:44 AM GMT on January 08, 2008
STL, yup weird indeed & I think its just going to get weirder as the year progresses.
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1628. Fshhead
2:39 AM GMT on January 08, 2008
Simon as far as the asteroid I think that even if it hits the far side, we are going to see something. I am just guessing though. Hmmm we are going to have to keep an eye on the news for sure. Hey maybe a good question for LowerCal there?
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1625. Fshhead
8:03 PM GMT on January 07, 2008
Hey Cowboy,
Thanx for all the input! I saw the article on the CFL'S also lol Are these not the same flourescent lighting that we have been using for like 30-40 years now? lol I will tell you this much, I have been using them for like 4 years now & I just had my 1st one burn out a week or two ago!! I have not experienced any problems with them whatsoever.. Articles like that totally crack me up!
Your article on the Gakkel, that really caught my attention lol Good Find man!! Funny cause they just found the one under Greenland also Hmmmmmmmm lol
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1624. moonlightcowboy
11:42 AM GMT on January 07, 2008
Power Play

The energy bill signed by President Bush last month aims to phase out the use of incandescent light bulbs in favor of the more efficient compact fluorescent or CFL bulbs by the year 2014. But some people say the CFL bulbs are a health risk.

British media report the bulbs have been linked to increased migraines, epileptic seizures and dizziness. One group says the bulbs can cause eruptions of existing skin problems and may even lead to skin cancer. And people with the immune system disease lupus say the bulbs cause them pain and extreme tiredness.
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1623. moonlightcowboy
11:42 AM GMT on January 07, 2008

What Happens If An Asteroid Hits Mars? - complete article.


Mars during a very close approach to Earth on Dec. 17


The possibility of an asteroid walloping the planet Mars this month is whetting the appetites of Earth-bound scientists, even as they further refine the space rock's trajectory.

The space rock in question — Asteroid 2007 WD5 — is similar in size to the object that carved Meteor Crater into northern Arizona some 50,000 years ago and is approaching Mars at about 30,000 miles per hour (48,280 kph).

Whether the asteroid will actually hit Mars or not is still uncertain.

Such an impact, researchers said, would prove an awesome blow for planetary science since NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) and a flotilla of other spacecraft are already in position to follow up any impact from orbit.

"An impact that we could witness/follow-up with MRO would be truly spectacular, and could tell us much about the hidden subsurface that could help direct a search for life or life-related molecules," said John Rummel, NASA's senior scientist for astrobiology at the agency's Washington, D.C., headquarters.
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1622. moonlightcowboy
11:00 AM GMT on January 07, 2008
Hey, FISH, guess what! There may be more lurking beneath the Arctic then we've been hearing about, too! A friend was telling me about this one! It seems the Arctic may be joining the the ranks of Greenland and the recent post about Antarctica and their magma/hydrothermal-released energies as well. Really interesting video and what this group of scientists braved to explore this wretched area of the Arctic Sea. And, it may help or better explain what might be happening with some of the melt conditions, rather than the blatant cry of AGW. This just tells me that our big, round ball is quite complex and that we've got much to learn about where we live. I wonder how and even if, these climate models factor tectonics!



What Lurks Beneath the Arctic Ice in an Unexplored Mid-Ocean Ridge?

THREE MILES BENEATH the Arctic ice cap, just shy of the North Pole, lies an ancient underwater midocean ridge known as the Gakkel. It was one of the last areas on Earth yet to be explored, but intrepid geologist Rob Reves-Sohn of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution decided eight years ago that he wanted to change that. At the Gakkel, Earth's crust is spreading slowly apart, uncovering new volcanoes and deep hot springs rife with never-before-seen extreme microbes. Reves-Sohn knew the region would teach him and other scientists new lessons about how Earth's plates move and what lies beneath them - so he had to go there, and soon.

Drilling under all that shifting ice is dangerous, so Reves-Sohn and his colleagues first had to come up with a clever way to probe the icy depths without risking their own lives. They decided on Autonomous Underwater Vehicles, free-swimming robots that could dive as far as two miles. While many other scientists scoffed at their idea, saying it would never work, major funding institutions believed in them: The team received money from not only the National Science Foundation but also NASA, which hoped their findings would have relevance to the hunt for life on Jupiter's moon Europa.

Years later, with their underwater robots and other special instruments in tow, Reves-Sohn and his team took off for the Gakkel Ridge to hunt for deep springs and signs of microbial life deep down below the ice. If they found those signs, their plan was to deploy the underwater robots to swim down and bring back samples - assuming, of course, that the robots didn't get stuck. The mission was bound to be risky but also superbly exciting.

FULL LINK.

Uncharted Territory


Oceanographers are only now beginning to explore these areas in detail. They have already made surprising geological finds, including the exposed mantle. They've also uncovered evidence at both ridges of hydrothermal vents, fissures in the seafloor through which circulating, magma-heated seawater escapes. Researchers say that these two ridges may represent a new class of tectonic boundary, called an ultraslow-spreading ridge. The finding offers scientists the chance to explore new ideas about how Earth's crust forms and to study the rich ecosystems spawned by the vents.

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1621. Fshhead
10:25 AM GMT on January 07, 2008
Hey Sully,
Allright man, you gonna have to be more specfic on this Lonnie Thompson. 1st I see him with the Goracle & now he's sacrificing an alpaca??? LMAO!!!!

"The local official raised the coca leaf to his forehead with two hands and chanted a mantra beseeching the gods of the leaf to bless this scientist's efforts. Lonnie Thompson smiled amiably. It wasn't the first ceremony to seek divine oversight for his work: Once he had to sacrifice a blindfolded alpaca to the gods before he could go up a mountain."

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1620. Fshhead
7:45 AM GMT on January 07, 2008
Ahhhhh Sully too funny!!!!!!!!

I started looking for info on Lonnie Thompson & came across this.....
Pic of the Goreacle with Lonnie Thompson

I dont know a whole lot about him yet Sully but, he just lost all his credibility as far as I am concerned! LMAO!!!!!
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1619. sullivanweather
9:02 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
Google him.

I'm not sure if you've heard of him, but I'm sure you have.

He's one of the more famous glaciologist and has done extensive work in the tropical region glacial areas.

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1617. sullivanweather
8:50 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
Hey Fish!

You gotta problem wit that?! (Italian mafia thug voice) hahaha

Take it easy at work, bro!

I'll catch ya later.
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1615. sullivanweather
8:52 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
Michael,

I've been wondering if you've read any of Lonnie Thompson's works?

I find his theory of decades long ENSO cycles in response to the most recent hypsythermal around 5300 years ago quite interesting.
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1614. Fshhead
8:51 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
Easy Sully, dont want to ban you man!!!! LMAO!!
Whats up bro'?? I am getting ready to go to work so, I will check in later
Jeeez, featured bloggers...... LMAO!!!

PEACE!
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1612. sullivanweather
8:48 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
LOL

You know my opinion on the comments...

200 or less works best.

Makes the threads much easier to follow.

It's nearly impossible to find a comment amongst 2000 of them......hahaha
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1611. Fshhead
8:47 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
Hey I want to ask again, anyone tried the Ca-40 yet? Curious to hear of anyone else's results...
Ca-40 website
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1608. Fshhead
8:37 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
Thanx STL,
Yea Sully & I were just talking about it last nite. We think 2008 really going to be a weird year for weather. Man tell you what, I have no idea anymore what to think of global warming lol I guess we just going to have to wait & see how this current La-Nina plays out....

BTW... I think the blog about to hit the comment limit?? If so, I will start it fresh tonite when I get home.
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1606. Fshhead
8:18 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
Thanx for all the input guys!!!
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1604. Fshhead
7:49 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jan/06/renewableenergy.energy

This is the one good thing about the high oil prices...lol
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1603. Triver
12:44 PM GMT on January 06, 2008
FYI
On hurricanes, it was reported on TV that the criteria for naming storms has changed to name more systems over the last 10 years making it look like there are more storms and MAKE a case for global warming, when in fact no dramatic change, just normal historical fluctuations.
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1602. robodave
10:45 AM GMT on January 06, 2008
This is what gore said in 2002:
Iraq and the War on Terrorism

A friend of mine emailed it to me today. We starkly disagree on the iraq war and the way forward. Even though I disagree with Gore's assertions, I thought I would post it here. Some of what he says here is eerily lucid, while some of it is obviously indicative of a man who has lost track of himself. Strange to me how he remembers the clinton years in rosy hues. Thats not how I remember it.
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1601. unclemush
2:39 AM CST on January 06, 2008
I only know that I don't trust Gore.I saw his movie. He didn't mention (that I remember) the frozen methane in the pacific. He made his money selling tobacco. If he cares so much about the world then he should give the money to peoples familys who have lost loved ones from tobacco use.Or to abused women,and kids.Or at least buy duct tape for all of us . Unclemush
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