Where the metal hits the rock

By: ycd0108 , 10:25 PM GMT on April 10, 2012

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I know the image makes me look like a failure as a boater - maybe I can learn to take better photos?
I am going with the theory that I did not damage the drive train but this prop is scrap aluminium now. I'm cleaning up a spare and we intend to relaunch early tomorrow morning (barely got on the trailer at about 10:00 hours and tide falling fast).
Then we need to run the new combination and see if the spare prop is close to performing like the old one did. I doubt it will do any better if I grind in on rocks at cruising speed, though.
I am not sure if the part of the skeg broken off is essential - likely it's main purpose is to protect the prop in a less violent collision.

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32. ycd0108
2:26 AM GMT on April 17, 2012
Evening Shen: Mom's significant after my "old man" had a blue heeler. Damn thing would bite me if I didn't pay attention but it could put livestock back through a fence - no need for gates. That breed is well named.
Rob: "ABCDF_G"
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31. RobDaHood
12:17 AM GMT on April 17, 2012
YCD,
You have left us stumped on Gators blog as to what we are supposed to do with the Lincoln thing. If you care to elaborate or explain, please do so.
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30. ShenValleyFlyFish
8:54 PM GMT on April 16, 2012
Round here folks will go to some some extreme lengths to keep out the deer. Only one that works "for sure" is what some of the wineries do. They build an electrified 8' hi-tensile vertical with a second section sloping out about 6'- 8' from the center to the ground with about 7 strands on that. Apparently a deer jumps more vertically than horizontally when clearing an obstacle. Dad's solution was to keep a "farm dog" known locally as an English Shepard as a free ranging outside dog. Looked similar to a Border Collie but bigger and bolder and a heeler instead of a header. Haven't seen a good specimen in years, Australian Blue Heeler seems to be the dog of choice for that task these days.
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29. ycd0108
5:43 PM GMT on April 16, 2012
Morning Rob:
We are guessing just what a deer might think but the fencing system has worked well. Some folks around here build 8' fences and others shoot the deer - either way is a lot of work.
Just phoned the "Lowrance Guru" and he installs transducers inside the hull in a bed of marine silicon. Gonna try that.
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28. RobDaHood
5:29 PM GMT on April 16, 2012
I wonder if it is because they can't see clearly through it?
Even little Florida deer can easily clear a 6 foot fence, but they don't like to jump if they can't see what's on the other side.

Thanks for clearing up the snorting question.

Good call on the trailer!
:o)
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27. ycd0108
3:24 PM GMT on April 16, 2012
Rain and 8 C. Rain forecast the next few days.
We had scheduled our "go-to" young fella to rototill the garden today 'cause though I could still do it I would not be able to do anything for some days afterward. Would not be surprised if the fella calls it off today.
I had some 20'x 1/2" rebar delivered to the job and snipped it into 6+' lengths with the "Zip-cut". Made a post driver a few years ago from a 4' length of heavy pipe with an old ball hitch welded in one end. Tloml can drive the lengths of rebar a foot or so into the ground with the "slammer" and bag tie the plastic mesh fencing to make any shape of fence she wants around the garden. So far the deer and bunnies have respected this perimeter - without the fencing nothing she plants will get beyond the sprout phase.
The plastic mesh fencing is only 5' high and deer can easily jump that but I'm guessing that they can not judge how high the black mesh actually is - there are other garden areas that are much easier to munch on.
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26. ycd0108
5:05 AM GMT on April 16, 2012
Evening Rob: "Snorting" in this case just refers to an old machine that still starts and runs. Some connotation of large and heavy here as well.
SIL came for supper with a new GPS plotter in the box - he said maybe the 730$ outlay might pay for itself in accidents avoided. I may pull the boat out again tomorrow to install the transducer for the new machine. This new item has sounder wired in but it means I have to install well below the water line.
My plan is to find another tandem "Road Runner" trailer and set up a mill on it. Also an "A" frame and winches to pick up the logs. The last thing I need is to bust the boat trailer just now.
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25. RobDaHood
6:26 PM GMT on April 15, 2012
I am familiar with skidders but what is a snorting skidder?
(google didn't help much)

Also, be careful! If you break her boat trailer you'll be in big trouble!
:o)
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24. ycd0108
3:51 PM GMT on April 15, 2012
Had a good visit with the forester fellow and bought a couple of 4x4" x 8' posts in fir. We rolled out his planer to start sizing the I brought them home to finish.
Sure makes you appreciate the ease of telephoning an order for "S4S" lumber. (Sized 4(four) Sides)
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23. ycd0108
3:26 PM GMT on April 14, 2012
Gonna be a nice day here: 14 c.
Going to visit a fairly mature fellow I helped build wood storage for some years ago. He is a "forestry engineer" and has maintained a wood lot for many years.
I need a few 4x4" posts for the railing I'm working on but mainly I need to pick his brain for an approach to logging our property.
When we built the storage shelters he was selective logging the woodlot and had been for years. A chain saw and an old snorting skidder were his main tools. About once a year he brings in a mobile sawmill and saws up the logs.
Now that the boat is off the trailer I'm thinking of putting a mill on the frame of the boat trailer.
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22. ycd0108
2:23 PM GMT on April 14, 2012
Morning Rob:
This death is not that close to me - I did not know the fellow, only know his aunt. It is somehow topsy-turvey when the young ones check out early though.
Hi there Eugene:
Tloml and I have an ongoing discussion: since she has never hit anything as damaging as I have (she runs the boat with guests and "best beloveds" on board quite often without me on board) she concludes she is the more competent. I am in favor of this fantasy maintaining itself!
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20. RobDaHood
1:28 PM GMT on April 14, 2012
Really sorry to read of your loss YCD.
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19. ycd0108
1:12 PM GMT on April 14, 2012
Good morning Tony:
We pulled a friend off the beach one day with both main and "kicker" outboards non-functional. The trouble with the little motors is that they are used so rarely. It's not that I have never needed a spare small motor - I just don't want to haul it around for years and find it will not run either.
Friday 13:
"Sailors were particularly superstitious in this regard, often refusing to ship out on a Friday. According to unverified legend (very likely untrue), the British Navy commissioned a ship in the 1800s called H.M.S. Friday, in order to quell the superstition. The navy selected the crew on a Friday, launched the ship on a Friday and even selected a man named James Friday as the ship's captain. Then, one Friday morning, the ship set off on its maiden voyage... and disappeared forever. A similar, entirely factual story is the harrowing flight of Apollo 13." Tom Harris, Howstuffworks
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18. plapman
12:08 PM GMT on April 14, 2012
Good morning.
That is not a good looking prop. Once while working on Lake Winnipeg I hit a submerged log. The prop didn't look that bad but the drive shaft broke on our 50hp motor. It's a good thing we carried a spare 10 hp or it would have been a long paddle back to the trailer, 5 miles with a 20 foot wooden yall loaded down with a large winch, 3 people and about 40 gallons of fuel.
Good luck finding a replacement prop, with the pitch you need, to get the performance you want.
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17. ycd0108
1:34 AM GMT on April 14, 2012
Dr. Masters' blog is the one to watch as usual but for now we are dealing with radar images and hoping for a "pass" from significant damage anywhere.
Life does carry on:
We have our Sittadog, Roxy, back here for a day or two.
Roxy's human was informed at work today that her nephew had just died from an athesma attack (25 years old) while chasing a chiwawa he was dog sitting. She is flying to Edmonton tomorrow if the flights are running (Air Canada Pilots are calling in sick time). I thought we had gotten through this Friday the 13th OK but I will not be chasing Roxy around the place tonight.
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16. ycd0108
4:18 AM GMT on April 13, 2012
Evening Ylee:
Had to play Rob's music one more time. My prop collection has mostly been recycled long ago. Usually I can get the local shop to balance it up and fix the spun hub. This one I mangled further trying to pry it apart in the water so I don't expect to repair it.
You have a good work night. Tloml just informed me it's OK to come to bed.
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15. Ylee
3:58 AM GMT on April 13, 2012
A wall of busted props sounds like something someone may have already done! Sounds cool, but unless you do this outside or in the shop I'm not sure the missus would be too keen on that! :)
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14. ycd0108
3:58 AM GMT on April 13, 2012
We have been cycling: waking up earlier each morning - maybe because the light comes earlier. However if I get up earlier I also go to bed earlier so I have been trying to stay awake.....
It's 2058 here and in two minutes I can hit the pillow
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13. ycd0108
3:10 AM GMT on April 13, 2012
Evening Shore:
No snow here and the outlook shows lows above freezing for the week. I'm hoping.
Calgary is almost as far away from here as The Bay of Fundy - well, not quite in miles but weather wise it is probably farther.
Propellors: I was thinking of painting small icons of rocks and logs I have hit in a row on the bow like WW11 airplanes recorded "kills". 'Course the rocks and logs are still OK so maybe I'll just hang the various props on the wall.
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12. shoreacres
2:50 AM GMT on April 13, 2012
Ahhhh.... quite the photo, up there at the top.

Curious about your weather tonight. I just got an email from a friend in Calgary - there's some serious snow going on there! Beautiful, yes - but still. It is supposed to be tending toward spring!
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11. ycd0108
5:05 AM GMT on April 12, 2012
Ylee: Your mower blades are not likely worse than ours. Tloml was driving about mulching grasses and small trees with the Husky earlier and came in to tell me she needed sharper blades.
"to go on chipping the high points off the numerous rocks in the lawn?"
I did not say!
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10. ycd0108
4:34 AM GMT on April 12, 2012
Actually Rob: I was thinkin' "Where the rubber hits the road". But I love that music anyway.
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9. RobDaHood
3:07 AM GMT on April 12, 2012
Can't sign off for the night without posting a video that has been on my mind since reading your title, "Where the metal hits the rock"

When the bullet hits the bone:


also another comes to mind:

Between a rock and a hard place.



See ya tomorrow. Take care!
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8. ycd0108
2:25 AM GMT on April 12, 2012
Good video Rob: There is one outfit here that I have used to put props back together. My friend that figured out how to get the damaged prop off had them weld a skeg some years ago.
Tloml does not want to wait for the prop shop so the boat is back in the chuck with a serious lack of skeg. M.V. "Balder Dash" ran fine today. There is a lot of flotsam these days because of the Spring Tides so I was doing the "chunk avoidance" dance.
In fact the leg was welded up about 15 years ago when we slid over a log sideyways and snapped the leg off completely. Coast Guard first asked me how much oil I figured had been lost. I said: "Whatever the lower unit on a mercruiser holds"
Eventually Julian hears all this on on the VHF and makes his way out to put a line on me and tow me back to harbour.
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7. Ylee
1:53 AM GMT on April 12, 2012
Your prop looks like my mower blades after getting too close to the driveway!(Or hitting a 4" log on the back of the farm!)
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6. RobDaHood
1:41 AM GMT on April 12, 2012
Wanted to post this earlier, but can't YouTube from the desktop.



lack of a skeg might mean less steering authority if you chop the throttle and nothing there to protect the prop.
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5. ycd0108
11:57 PM GMT on April 11, 2012
For some reason this ditty pops in:
“Man's life's a vapor, and full of woes; he cuts a caper, and down he goes”
We sang that at 6 years old in elementary school music classes.
"Down and down and down and down and down he goes!"
The girls in those classes sang with the same gusto and lack of understanding that I did then.
It was just a tune, after all.
Looking back: I wonder who put that in the curriculum.

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4. ycd0108
10:53 PM GMT on April 11, 2012
Achh Well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG4F0NmGpg4&featur e=youtube_gdata
Blended Scotch Whiskey!
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3. ycd0108
7:54 PM GMT on April 11, 2012
Afternoon Rob:
Put the M.V."Balder Dash" back in the water this morning and took a two mile run to check things out. Everything seems OK and she scoots along smoothly. The hull did not even touch as far as I can tell.
Got some advice on the dock from a couple I built for years ago about GPS plotters: they have a "Naviman" and tell me it is just fine. I think we need one so Tloml will likely make it my "Fathers Days" prezzy.
In the meantime here is a fine story from Cunard about the "Carpathia" which rescued all survivors of the "Titanic":
http://wearecunard.com/2012/04/guided-by-a-greate r-hand/
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2. RobDaHood
7:01 PM GMT on April 11, 2012
Yeah, you tore that one up pretty good. Of course, there's not much point in tearing it up just a little is there?

Don't be too hard on yourself...happens to anyone who spends enough time on the water. I'm sure you paid in full with embarrassment.

A good welder can fix your skeg. Looks like you lost a fair chunk of it.
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1. ycd0108
1:53 PM GMT on April 11, 2012
Aftershock M5 30 minutes ago off Sumatra, 15 aftershocks so far. Looks like the worst part of the human experience of this event will be the chaos on the evacuation routes and finding a place to stay on higher ground.
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