Skeleton Shrimp

By: ycd0108 , 8:34 PM GMT on April 21, 2014

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Asked my Marine Biologist friend if he knew what this creature was and he said he did not but if I emailed him my photo he would ask some Invertebrate Biologists.
Key word "invertebate" brought up Amphipod and led to Caprellidae:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caprellidae
Some photos and an incredible video here:
http://www.realmonstrosities.com/2011/10/skeleton -shrimp.html

bottomfeeder (ycd0108)
I'm glad this thing is less than 2" tall
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40. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
4:26 AM GMT on May 03, 2014
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39. BriarCraft
8:31 PM GMT on May 01, 2014
Happy May Day!

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38. Ylee
1:47 PM GMT on May 01, 2014
I'm sure your mom had quite the shock. In her day, $185 was probably a month's wages!
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37. ycd0108
2:51 AM GMT on May 01, 2014
I am feeling my age now Ylee:
I started out mowing lawns at 75 cents/hour and when Dad took me on as a cleanup boy the carpenters were paid about 1.50/hour.
'Member one July I put in 220 hours and got a monster paycheck at 3$ per hour.
Those days are gone:
Yesterday I needed a breaker for the old panel which is now sub-fed from the newer main 200 amp service.
Could not find the goofy old breaker (Westinghouse 40/15 amp combo) so I called the number on the sticker on the old panel.
Guy shows up and jams the new breaker in - then he hands me a bill for $185.
Mom was somewhat taken aback when I asked for the cash so I reassured her with this line:
"You'd better get used to it."
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36. Ylee
9:14 PM GMT on April 30, 2014
That's pretty good money! I remember back in my Florida days doing labor on a construction crew for $4 an hour! Barely enough for rent, gas for the car, and one trip to McDonalds a week!
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35. ycd0108
6:43 PM GMT on April 30, 2014
Hey Ylee:
Best offer I've had so far!
Not working on my own house - tryin' to put something together in Victoria (Capital Regional District, B.C.).
20$ CDN cash per hour if you are warm and show up, a sliding scale upwards if you can get along with me and we get them dang windows in place.
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34. Ylee
2:01 PM GMT on April 30, 2014
Is for your house, or someone else's? If I lived nearby, I'd come over and work for food, and conversation!
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33. ycd0108
1:44 PM GMT on April 30, 2014
Mornin' Bogon:
Shiny Side Up out there today OK.
A truck load of new windows appeared in the driveway yesterday.
I'm looking in the local paper for "Handyman for hire" ads.
Always good to have somebody picking up the other end of the board.
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32. Bogon
12:33 PM GMT on April 30, 2014
Still here, ycd. It's gray and rainy outside.

Today is predicted to bring the greatest risk of hazardous weather so far this week to my location. Tomorrow the front finally passes, and the sun comes out.

Add: I went to YouTube looking for music about trees. Since I inhabit the Pine State, I searched for "In the Pines". The returned list included songs from sources ranging from Leadbelly to Joan Baez to Nirvana to Dolly Parton.

The lyrics come in two main versions. One is billed as a traditional folk tune. I'm partial to one I heard my grandpa sing, which traces its lineage to Bluegrass. This track splits the difference.

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31. ycd0108
4:34 AM GMT on April 30, 2014
That's mas o menos my thinking Bogon:cAN'T LINK MUSIC VIDEOS ON THIS ABACUS (sorry about the caps) but if I could I surely would.
Some ditty by Leonard Cohen came to mind when I read your comment but it slipped my mind.
I'm assuming you have not been hung out to dry by this torcon - wild stuff.
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30. Bogon
8:47 PM GMT on April 29, 2014
Thanks for the link, Ylee. I can't believe the people of Britain would be so trusting (or ignorant or apathetic) that they would believe the ersatz accounting applied to Smithy Wood.

The method might actually work, if one made an honest effort to quantify the value of everything in the forest.

The only known method to create an old growth forest is to start with an old growth forest. You cannot succeed if you start with sterile trees in pots. There is a lot in an old forest besides the trees. There are things we can see, such as the plants, birds, animals etc. There are many more things we can't see. Some of them, like bacteria, spores, insects etc. are microscopic. Some, like the relationships among all these things, are invisible, unless you take the time to work them out. If you compile a list of all these ingredients and mix them in the right proportions, you might achieve an approximation of an old growth forest.

Then there is the little matter of the eight hundred years. The people of Britain can't possibly collect on the offer to ‘replace’ Smithy Wood until sometime around 2814. Who can afford to wait that long? What is the opportunity cost of eight centuries? Today's generation of accountants is quite unaccustomed to thinking on such a time scale.

What the heck, it would be good practice for them.
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29. ycd0108
5:53 PM GMT on April 29, 2014
"I'm here, Huckleberry."
As Doc Holiday would say:
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28. ycd0108
5:42 PM GMT on April 29, 2014
no comment - ripping out walls, plumbing, homeowner wiring
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27. Ylee
4:28 PM GMT on April 29, 2014
Still on the road, ycd? Anywhere in particular?

A good Monbiot.
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26. ycd0108
12:08 PM GMT on April 26, 2014
Mornin' Bogon:
I'm not quite ready to make that leap - just wait till I start making my own brand of mistakes on this project.
The door guy was puzzled too: he had to build a new door (on the computer) to get the correct R.O.
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25. Bogon
7:45 PM GMT on April 25, 2014
Your story about he door frame sounds kind of like joealaska's experience with Direct TV. Maybe Archdruid is right about the impending collapse of civilization.
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24. ycd0108
5:39 PM GMT on April 25, 2014
Back to travelling mode for a few days but I'll be watching.
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23. ycd0108
6:38 PM GMT on April 24, 2014
Bogon:
While I do admire well constructed and researched blogs that's obviously not my forte.
The ease of displaying whatever happens to catch my attention makes it hard to stay with any particular thread for long.
For instance:
This morning I phoned the supplier for a double door I ordered a week ago. I need to know the "Rough Opening" so I can cut the concrete away not too small nor too large.
The door I had ordered is two 36" panels and the information I got was the R.O. should be 62 1/2"
I'm sure I could put a six foot wide door in a 62 1/2" opening but I can't figure out how one would open either door.
Hopefully that has been cleared up - I'll cut the opening 74.5" plus space for framing.
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22. ycd0108
1:00 PM GMT on April 24, 2014
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c- earthquake-6-6-magnitude-quake-hits-near-port-alic e-1.2620109
Did I feel it?
No, I was asleep.
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21. Bogon
3:49 AM GMT on April 24, 2014
That's quite a lurch you've constructed there, ycd, from the Archdruid's pessimism to the auld bloomin' heather.

I guess it's stuff like that that keeps me visiting. :o)
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20. ycd0108
1:51 AM GMT on April 24, 2014
So one day I'm stridin' over the campus to the cafeteria and I looks up and thar's Simon Garfunkle walkin' past.
Bit of a shock to me to be so close to one of my heroes.
I looks at him and he looks at me and I think:
"Should I tell him how much I like the music he and Paul produce?"
We passed politely.
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19. ycd0108
11:44 PM GMT on April 23, 2014
Another favorite:
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18. ycd0108
9:03 PM GMT on April 23, 2014
Summing up and crunching down:
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.ca/2014/04/the -end-of-employment.html
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17. ycd0108
8:47 PM GMT on April 23, 2014
October; I'll be sober:
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16. Bogon
1:10 PM GMT on April 23, 2014
Quoting 15. ycd0108:

Bogon #11:
Careful with that Axe, eh
I guess I could have done worse.
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15. ycd0108
4:23 AM GMT on April 23, 2014
Bogon #11:
Careful with that Axe, eh
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14. ycd0108
1:20 AM GMT on April 23, 2014
Warning: the following link contains course language (actually only one course word but that word is repeated)
http://griponclimate.org/2014/03/24/and-the-horse -you-rode-in-on/
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13. ycd0108
12:20 AM GMT on April 23, 2014
Here is the "Harper Government" (as opposed to the Canadian Government) contribution to "Earth Day":

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/humpback-whale- losing-threatened-status-amid-northern-gateway-con cerns-1.2617633
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12. RobDaHood
8:53 PM GMT on April 22, 2014
Quoting 11. Bogon:

Oops! Good catch, ycd. I meant to say crab, not clam.

Knew what you meant.
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11. Bogon
8:49 PM GMT on April 22, 2014
Oops! Good catch, ycd. I meant to say crab, not clam.
Got my four-letter words that start with 'c' mixed up. :o)
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10. ycd0108
8:16 PM GMT on April 22, 2014
'Course our fleas have a dog Rob:
By the way, that image you posted of the Sand Flea ain't a clam - clams are Mollusca and that thing is Crustacia.
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9. RobDaHood
7:05 PM GMT on April 22, 2014
Quoting 8. Bogon:

Thanks for the confirmation, Rob. I was taught to call those little digging clams "sand fleas" when I was a kid. Now I know somebody else (unrelated and hundreds of miles distant) who uses the same nickname for the critter.

The wiki says that the one in your picture (which looks like sand fleas I've seen on the beaches of North Carolina) are more closely related to similar species in Africa than to species elsewhere in North America. I wonder if that kinship goes all the way back to the birth of the Atlantic Ocean?

Could very well be. They look ancient enough.

Now, as for that video in post # 5...even I know that that is not a flea. That's a dog!
LOL
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8. Bogon
4:58 PM GMT on April 22, 2014
Thanks for the confirmation, Rob. I was taught to call those little digging clams "sand fleas" when I was a kid. Now I know somebody else (unrelated and hundreds of miles distant) who uses the same nickname for the critter.

The wiki says that the one in your picture (which looks like sand fleas I've seen on the beaches of North Carolina) are more closely related to similar species in Africa than to species elsewhere in North America. I wonder if that kinship goes all the way back to the birth of the Atlantic Ocean?
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7. RobDaHood
3:57 PM GMT on April 22, 2014
Quoting 6. mobal:



First thing I thought too.

Hey Mobal!
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6. mobal
12:56 AM GMT on April 22, 2014
Quoting 1. RobDaHood:

Brings to mind a sea-going praying mantis.
Interesting.




First thing I thought too.
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5. ycd0108
11:47 PM GMT on April 21, 2014
Rob #1:
That was my first reaction also. Read later that they move like an Inch Worm. I thought the bugs were anchored to the bottom of the boat but from your annotated image the feet (er - pereopods) end in a hooked claw.
Bogon :
I'll show the video to my grandson and see what he says.
We have things we call Sand Fleas here too but I have never looked too close at them.
Gotta borrow back the one copy we share of Ricketts' "Between Pacific Tides".
here's a video of the local beach:

Rob #4:
I spent lots of time on fresh water lakes and streams but did not see the ocean till I was about 13. I think the salt water tidal zone was what brought me to this island.

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4. RobDaHood
9:39 PM GMT on April 21, 2014
Quoting 3. Bogon:

That was indeed a cool video, ycd. If I hadn't seen it, I probably would not have recognized skeleton shrimp clinging to sea fans etc. Here's a clickable link to the page.

I had to look up 'amphipod'. My dictionary gave "sand flea" as an example. Alas, the thing that folks in my part of the world call sand flea is not an amphipod.

We always called these sand fleas:



Used to have fun finding them at the edge of the surf when I was very small.
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3. Bogon
9:34 PM GMT on April 21, 2014
That was indeed a cool video, ycd. If I hadn't seen it, I probably would not have recognized skeleton shrimp clinging to sea fans etc. Here's a clickable link to the page.

I had to look up 'amphipod'. My dictionary gave "sand flea" as an example. Alas, the thing that folks in my part of the world call sand flea is not an amphipod.
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2. RobDaHood
9:04 PM GMT on April 21, 2014
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1. RobDaHood
9:04 PM GMT on April 21, 2014
Brings to mind a sea-going praying mantis.
Interesting.

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