"Whitey"

By: ycd0108 , 2:54 AM GMT on March 09, 2014

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This photo is date stamped 1973. I think I might have helped put the fencing in the tree line, right background, many years before that - my first paid employment.
When his older brothers (my father included) went "Overseas" during WW 11 Whitey was stuck looking after the family farm.
Though he did a fair job of it and acquired many adjoining properties including the fields in this photo, he was actually an artist and a thinker according to my memories.
Showed me how to split wooden stakes to tighten the fencing, told me to read the bible but not to take it too literally and put up with me busting equipment trying to drive a tractor as if it was a race car.
When I found this picture in a frame during this day's "clean-up, sort and throw out" project I almost tossed it in the burn pile.

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33. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
11:47 PM GMT on March 15, 2014
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32. ycd0108
10:30 PM GMT on March 15, 2014
Ylee:
We had a department of government called ALR - Agricultural Land Reserve up till a few years ago.
It was somewhat effective at preserving farm land.
Our current rulers appear to be bent on paving what little decent agricultural soil there is left.
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31. Ylee
5:12 PM GMT on March 15, 2014
If it's anything like around here, the land will either be bought up by a rancher expanding his operation, or broken up into 1 to 10 acre parcels, each with a doublewide on it!
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30. ycd0108
1:29 PM GMT on March 15, 2014
Good morning Tony:
It does make us wonder how the "traditional family" managed with small houses, lots of kids, minimal indoor plumbing, no TV and no internet.
I'm guessing their housing was a step up from dwelling in a cave with the whole tribe though.
The "Ranch" was sold to pay the taxes when Whitey passed on. The new owner plowed the house, barn, stock yards and outbuildings back to hay fields. He built his new house and barns where Whitey and I stacked hay. I never got to visit the new place but from the road it reminded me of a small shopping mall.
That guy has passed on in his turn.
I wonder what comes next.
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29. plapman
1:04 PM GMT on March 15, 2014
Good morning YCD.
My grandparents lived in a 2 room log cabin. When they had both passed away the place was abandoned. Someone partied out there and started a grass fire which burnt the old log structure down. I've always wondered how they had 10 kids in a 1 bedroom cabin. :)
An uncle took over the land and put a trailer there but has since sold the place.
Have a good day.
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28. ycd0108
2:50 PM GMT on March 13, 2014
Ylee:
I was just commenting over at your place and my "real-time updating" has been stuck on "paused" for a while.
This cabin was built with scrounged materials. Even when we took it over the area was recovering from earlier clear cutting. The rafters, beams and studs were peeled saplings averaging 4" diameter. Floor and wall sheathing were milled lumber. Siding and some roofing was hand split cedar shakes. footings were piles of different bricks and cement blocks.
We only spent the one winter in the cabin. The main house was no where near finished for the next winter but when I suggested we spend another winter in the cabin Tloml made it very clear we were moving up no matter what.
I brewed about 40 gallons of beer, called in all my "markers", wrote a few IOUs and we buttoned the envelope and moved in one day.
The next winter was cold too. I had nothing but construction off-cuts to burn for heat and what little electricity we had came from one double pole 15 amp breaker and went underground in 800' of Underground Feeder NMDWU 10/3 (basically one of the longest extension cords in the world) so there was no way to heat with electricity.
Water heat, cook stove, clothes dryer and fridge were all on propane.
We had a small wood furnace and the fireplace and I remember sawing frozen windfall out of the snow and splitting it small enough to burn and Tloml and I sitting with our feet in the fireplace and smiling.
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27. Ylee
1:54 PM GMT on March 13, 2014
My grandmother's homestead isn't in much better shape. It was made out of green lumber(That's all grandad could get), and now tthe walls are in all directions. I'm hoping for five more years of service as storage, before we can get a new shop built!
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26. ycd0108
3:05 AM GMT on March 13, 2014
The fire is all done - I can still see a small flicker from my window. Last night I was somewhat concerned.
That cabin housed a number of folks before Tloml and I moved in with two small daughters.
It was so cold that winter ('75?) we were glad we had no water system to freeze. The tiny space would heat up easily so once we got the girls tucked in to their bunks we would hurry up to the loft and snuggle down as the cold crept in.
Ah well.
It's gone.
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25. ycd0108
4:01 PM GMT on March 12, 2014
Mornin' Ylee:
Funny how the sounds of the other machines get you going.
The roof collapsed in a couple of places on the small cabin in the heavy dump of snow.
We knew the cabin was doomed years ago and gave up on the idea to repair it.
With the saw and the Hoe-Chucker roaring about we could not sit quietly about so we embarked upon our own project.
I don't need to clean up anything from their work - it's all staying on the other side of the property line.
However, I'm thinking of hiring this combo to bring down some big stuff around the house.
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24. Ylee
3:49 PM GMT on March 12, 2014
So it was the old cabin that you were burning! My first thought was you were disposing the branches of the fallen trees, but it didn't look quite right!

As a result of the tree clearing, you now have plenty of extra work with more gardening! :' )
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23. ycd0108
3:37 PM GMT on March 12, 2014
Whump!
That one must have been a pretty good sized tree.
"Buckin' Billy" fired up the saw at 0745hr as warned.
I was just getting the furnace going.
Frost on the pickup this morning but the forecast is for warming (where have we heard THAT before?) to +10 C.
Then showers this afternoon.
The old cabin is pretty well toast - I'll rake the smoldering bits together today and pick out the metal and glass tomorrow.
First I need to find the burnt off water line so I can pressurize the hoses again.
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22. ycd0108
2:08 PM GMT on March 12, 2014
Good morning:
Rob:
I think there was just more time and fewer entertainments back then. I still remember the process of "going to the movies" fondly but now I can not recall last night's Netflick.
My Dad helped me build my first speed boat. I was 14 and wanted to come to YCD to take Glider lessons with the Air Cadets. He had been in the RCAF in Britain during the second world war and I suspect he did not want me to join the military.
Later I tried to join up but the Canadian military was downsizing through that time.
I'm looking forward to having more interaction with my 9 year old grand son - we get along pretty well. I have to be careful with things I mention though - he has an amazing memory and his mother sometimes calls me up to explain something I said or did.
BriarCraft:
We got to sit in full sun yesterday on the deck and the newly bright portion of the yard will very likely get some raised beds this summer
Whitey must have been nick-named fairly young because I never knew what his first name was for years.
He had a small saw-mill running most of the time cutting rail road ties outside of farming season and many other uncles and aunts were employed in logging. Just last year his little sister told me how she had gone in to a logging camp as the cook and ended up displacing the operator on the "Cherry-Picker" (an early log loader).
When we went out to talk to the loggers the first morning the faller knew us already. He is the son of a lady we used to listen to at coffee houses and dances so he would have been one of the children snoozing late into the night. Now he also drums with her band.
Obviously he's pretty good at his day job as well.
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21. BriarCraft
7:20 AM GMT on March 12, 2014
What a difference 8 hours makes to the view from your yard!

Not quite sure where "Whitey" got his handle. That fine beard of his looks red to me. Some good memories and stories prompted by your find.

The logging photos in your header sure bring to mind how different logging is now from what I remember seeing in Oregon 50 years ago. About the only things that are the same is the monster chain saws and the men who wield them and the log truck drivers.
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20. RobDaHood
2:52 AM GMT on March 12, 2014
Always hated seeing the old straight big ones go down. Unfortunately I had to fell a few around the house that were hurricane hazards. Something about ending something that was around during the American Civil War that don't seem quite right.

Anyhow...have met a few of the younger guys here on WU who are interested in sharing and learning from some of us who've been around the block a few times.

When I was around 13, there was a retired guy who taught me all about electricity, ham radio, cable TV, and some boat stuff. Another guy taught me to sail a year or two before, an old Swede with a heavy accent. He advised me on building my first sailboat from a plywood kit.

In later years, I learned about WWII first hand from guys that had actually been there. Gave a whole different perspective from the history books. I always loved hearing personal perspective on history.

It wasn't until the last couple of years that they were alive that my Mom's father and my Dad's older brother opened up to me about their life's experiences, during the war and in the years immediately following.

Older guys (and gals, I suppose) can teach us a lot of things. Wisdom learned the hard way, if only we take the time to listen.

I was blessed with a lot of that. I listened, I learned, and I carried on with my own brand of foolishness. LOL. But I have to think that all of my mentors made a difference and contributed to who I am and what I believe today.

I only hope that I can touch a few lives and teach a few things. Lord knows that I've made enough mistakes that somebody ought to be able to learn something!
LOL

Thanks for this blog and for sharing your stories!
Have a good night!
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19. ycd0108
4:39 PM GMT on March 11, 2014
Things are a bit disjointed 'roun' here:
Chain saws and "Mighty Machines" with the frequent whump of a large tree hitting the ground -
not to mention Tloml hollering:
"Breakfast's Ready!"
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18. ycd0108
5:38 AM GMT on March 11, 2014
"stop me if you have heard this one"
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17. ycd0108
3:07 AM GMT on March 11, 2014
Thoughtsteader:
My day was pretty good till I read your link.
Suddenly my day got better!
That is such hopeful news.
When I was there we somehow brought in a couple of small generators - enough to light a couple of expat houses but we could barely keep diesel in the vehicles let alone run the gen sets more than a few hours a day.
Though our TSG (Technical Support Group, which I was with) were dabbling with solar even then it was not working out well due to initial cost and theft.
The only answer is to make the item so common no one would bother to steal it.
I wish them good luck and I'll look in to it further.
In fact I promised to come back once there was peace. Though I have failed to keep promises a number of times that one still bothers me.
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16. Thoughtsteader
1:57 AM GMT on March 11, 2014
Here's something I think you might enjoy reading about. From what I hear, they're growing the business (even though the site hasn't been updated for a while) and things like cell phone charging stations are helping with funding in-country. A little creativity goes a long way.
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15. ycd0108
4:26 PM GMT on March 10, 2014
At precisely 0800 hours I heard a chainsaw roar to life quite close to my house. You can tell the difference between a working faller's saw note and the home owner's hobby chainsaw.
Soon there came the distinctive sound of a good sized tree landing in the forest and Tloml roused.
The neighbour had dropped by a couple of weeks ago to inform us he would be having loggers come in to take out the "merch" - those are the long straight trees - along our property line.
So I went out with the Cannon PowerShot and took a picture as one of the smaller trees fell.
If you follow a line at about 60 degrees from horizontal to the right based on the bee hives you might make out the tree angled in the background.
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14. ycd0108
3:07 PM GMT on March 10, 2014
Good morning Rob:
I was hesitant to post such a personal photo but after staring at it for a while I guessed some people would like to see it.
"we all have to find our own way", of course, but you and I at least had real people - often close relations - at least advising us, telling stories and theories and now and then listening to our experiences and relating to them.
Now it seems to me a developing young person like me would be so involved with social media and the wonders of the internet that he or she would rarely be interested in the knowledge, stories or thoughts of someone like myself.
I have a very good relationship with my daughters: they come to me now and then for advice and even company but the "quality time" I have spent with my nephews could be measured in hours not days.
One niece did become part of my small construction crew so she had a chance to hear some stories - not all mine - at coffee break and in the crummy.
Alas she was too talented and beautiful to stay with us for more than a couple of buildings.
Whitey would have gotten quite a jolt if I could have told him where that photo would end up.
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13. RobDaHood
4:31 AM GMT on March 10, 2014
Great photo and I am sure invokes many great memories.
I was fortunate to have many "old guys" who taught me many things growing up. In fact, with all of the guidance, there was probably no excuse for all of the beating of my head against the wall, but I reckon we all have to find our own way.

Thanks for sharing and preserving the memory of "Whitey".
Must have been quite a character to have known.
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12. ycd0108
3:57 AM GMT on March 10, 2014
Thoughtsteader:
Though I recall seeing a snake's rattle that was supposedly collected on the Range behind him I don't think Whitey charmed it off the rattler.
I'm thinking our family was a Clan centered around the "Ranch", Whitey's legacy.
If you like the photo of my uncle you should see one of his hired hand, Fritzy. He was tiny with a thin build made up entirely of steel cable as far as I could tell.
These two worked together for so many years it would be fitting if I can find a photo - I don't think many exist.
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11. Thoughtsteader
12:42 AM GMT on March 10, 2014
My, my, my... That's one fine-looking fellow whose photo you have up there. I'll bet he could tell a story or two. Charm the skin off a snake, as the saying goes. Good thing you caught yourself before tossing the photo. That's a great memory, right there.

The worst thing about the time change for me is that the light and the clock don't sync up for a while. Since I work by the sun, what the clock says doesn't make much difference, but it's always a little startling to feel like it's 5 p.m. when it's really 6.

I do like the fact that the days are getting longer. I'm always happy to have a little sunshine left once I get off work. ;)
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10. ycd0108
11:58 PM GMT on March 09, 2014
Ylee:
The time change now actually puts me more in sync - I have been getting up too early and dozing in the evenings.
I moonlighted for a few weeks while working a steady job and would get a few seconds of snooze at the traffic lights.
Getting familiar with your new Cam layout and checking where they are.
Good layout!
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9. Ylee
11:04 PM GMT on March 09, 2014
Not much to adjust here biologically; my work schedule has me here both during the day, and the night, so the main thing for me last night was that I lost an hours' pay!
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8. ycd0108
4:40 PM GMT on March 09, 2014
The igloo is the only snow left in the yard now and the next few days with forecast temperatures around 10 C. and no freezing nightly lows will continue to renovate the place.
I think I've changed most of the clocks to the DST - now I'll try to adjust the biological one.
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7. ycd0108
5:09 AM GMT on March 09, 2014
I Google drove up to the "No Trespassing" sign on the open gate. The photo was taken about another mile farther on the private road. Most of the high land to the east of the road is still owned by my cousin, I think.
I carried on back on Grandview Flats road toward Armstrong and stopped at 4498-4546. Looking to the right at that point I can almost see my cousin and me staking bales of alfalfa.
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6. ycd0108
4:43 AM GMT on March 09, 2014
Ylee:
I'll try that and see what's there. Can't imagine the Google cam got through the gates to the range though.
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5. ycd0108
4:41 AM GMT on March 09, 2014
NumberWise:
I have never read "To Kill a Mockingbird" but after checking a condensed book site I would imagine that "Whitey" would refer to some of the non-colored characters in that story.
I think the nickname came from his blonde hair which, like mine used to before it went grey, would bleach white in the Okanagan sun.
Oh, there were stories for sure.
We'll see what emerges.
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4. Ylee
4:27 AM GMT on March 09, 2014
I punched in your coordinates, and Google maps showed a Street View of the area! Very pretty country!
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3. NumberWise
4:05 AM GMT on March 09, 2014
I love that photo! It's scary to think you almost tossed it out. I can make up all kinds of stories by just looking at it. I'll bet Thoughtsteader could make good use of it.

I sat up and took notice when I saw the title of your blog - probably because I'm currently rereading "To Kill a Mockingbird".
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2. ycd0108
3:41 AM GMT on March 09, 2014
Ylee:
B.C.
About 50.42N, 119.31W
Camera looking North.
He was a Carver of quality but I have never read anything he wrote.
Which is odd, come to think because I still have some things his brother, my father wrote.
I should call my last auntie anyway - I'll ask her if she remembers Whitey writing anything other than cheques for more land.
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1. Ylee
3:01 AM GMT on March 09, 2014
Glad you saved it, ycd! He has "great storyteller" written all over him! Shame they didn't have blogs back then!

Was the picture taken in B.C., or Alberta?
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