New Site Launch: The next two lucky states are.......

By: Product Team , 11:13 PM GMT on April 10, 2014

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Phase one of the roll out has gone well - we've received tons of great feedback and we're cranking around the clock to get more changes made and more bugs fixed!

Minnesota and Massachusetts - you guys will see the new site tomorrow morning. Just wanted to let you all know so you don't get a shock!

If all goes to plan, we hope to launch to everyone some time next week.

Keep the feedback coming!

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118. journeymansix
6:03 PM GMT on August 30, 2014
Great work! I'm especially appreciating the mobile view on my phone.
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117. Jetroaz
7:17 PM GMT on July 16, 2014
Looks great! Wish more sites would do the same.
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116. martin45040
12:16 AM GMT on July 01, 2014
Help!! I can't get the new version to show now!! I'm using IE9 and the new version showed up fine until a couple days ago. Anyone have an idea why it's not showing now? I've deleted history to no avail.
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115. Beathnay
10:32 AM GMT on June 09, 2014
Cool Love the New Site setup!
114. WestSenNY
10:16 PM GMT on April 23, 2014
The new dashboard is nice for the weather stations, and i see you fixed the weekly report to be like the old one. Why not change the monthly and yearly to graph exact figures instead of triangles for the maximum for the days? I think most computers can handle the smaller graphing and better looking results.
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113. nickelliott
6:59 AM GMT on April 17, 2014
Hi

I understand the need to refresh things from time to time. However,

-As a NoScript user, I don't like the fact I have to enable javascript from so many different domains to get the site to work. The full count at the moment is 30! Surely you can host your own javascript?

-I can't find a way to see the raw METARS in the history pages anymore. It used to be an option alongside the Comma Delimted File link. Please could you bring that option back?

Thanks
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112. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
9:14 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
wuproductteam has created a new entry.
111. Barefootontherocks
7:21 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Hi Data,
Haven't tried iphone on beta and I won't. WU radar has been redesigned and I don't like it. Add: HAHA. I did and liked it. Way more complicated than necessary.


Fortunately, we have lots of good weather apps and radar apps to choose from if we need them. ;)

This "roll out" has generated more than the natural separation anxiety present with any change. And there's a reason for that. LOL

Ps. Maybe it is our phones, like a "firewall" equivalent or something like that blocks access. do you think it could be the phone and not the site denying us access to classic wu on iphone.
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110. EstherD
7:11 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
[ My guess is that this is a known bug, and that you're already working on it, but I'll report it anyway "just in case". ]

The following appears to be a FIREFOX-ONLY bug.

Problem with the new dropdown menus on FIrefox 28 (Mac). Some of them are not wide enough to accommodate the text label, causing truncation right. Appears to be a site-wide bug, so it's probably a bug in the menu widget code common to all pages.

First noticed it in the "Zoom" menu on the NEXRAD page, and that's still probably the clearest example.

Over the weekend, the lower zooms were OK, but the higher zooms were truncated right, e.g. "100" appeared as "100", but "400" appeared as "40".

Today the problem is WORSE, because there is an extra black&white disclosure triangle thingy in the menu to the left of the original blue-on-grey (or white-on-blue) downward-pointing arrow.

So today ALL of the Zoom menu text labels are truncated right, e.g. "100" appears as "10", and "400" appears as "40".

Appears that ONLY Firefox 28 (Mac) has TWO disclosure thingies in the dropdown menus and the menu text label truncation problem.

Firefox 28 (Win7) has ONLY ONE disclosure thingy in the dropdown menus but it ALSO HAS the menu text label truncation problem.

Chrome 34.0.1847.116 (Mac) has only the downward-pointing arrow and the menu text labels are fine. Ditto for Safari 5.1.10 (Mac).
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109. DataPilot
7:06 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Quoting 105. Barefootontherocks:
Only thing useful on i.wund.com is the local forecast. Radar sucks. I know you stated you'd be releasing a new iphone app this week. Can't hardly wait to see what kind of radar you have on there.

You divert iphones trying to access classic wu to the regular site. Why do you not allow iphones to access classic wu?

(edited for clarity)


Ack, you're right BF! I can't get to Classic on my iPhone at all. Given that the beta site SO danged slow on iOS - and, worse, the iPhone site and apps are too crippled to be of much use - I sure hope that Classic will become available for iPhones.
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108. BrowardJeff
7:01 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
I saw a comment before, but I don't remember seeing a reply. Is there a reason the box to post a new comment is above the old comments now? It seems to me that I'll always be at the bottom of the page after I read the comments, and if I want to reply, I'd rather have the comment box there. Putting it at the top encourages people to post without reading, which will hamper discussions.

I recognize that it was defaulting to Newest First, so the latest comment is just below the box. But that implies that I'll scroll to the bottom of the page, and read backwards. That's awkward, since comments are multi-lined. It means I need to jump up 10 lines, read down to the end of the comment, then jump up 20 lines to find the next one, and read down..and so forth.


As a side note..there's some interesting laggy behavior as I resize the comment box (Windows 7, Chrome 34.0.1847.116 m). The box moves about half a second after the mouse moves. I assume the underlying code is figuring out the new word wrap, and how to display everything below the comment box.
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107. EstherD
6:31 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Quoting 77. EstherD:

All day long the symbol key below the US Radar Stations map on the NEXRAD page has looked like this:
NEXRAD      Current      Station Down

And all day long the TDWR stations have been shown on the map their usual yellow cross symbol, just not in the key.

So all day long I've been wondering: "Where's the TDWR?" and asking myself whether to report it or not.

Just now, as I'm looking at it, the page reloads, and all of a sudden it looks like this:
TDWR      NEXRAD      Current      Station Down

Quoting 83. EstherD:

Well, it WAS there last night. I'm SURE of it. But today it's as it was, namely no TDWR symbol in the map key.

Found a reliable way to reproduce this bug. Appears to be a problem in how the NEXRAD page is constructed on initial page load.

1) Load the NEXRAD page for any city.
2) Notice that the symbol key below the regionalized US Radar Stations map on the NEXRAD page looks like this:
     NEXRAD      Current      Station Down
3) CLICK on ANY of the radar sites in the map.
4) Notice that the symbol key below the regionalized US Radar Stations map on the NEXRAD page now looks like this:
     TDWR     NEXRAD      Current      Station Down
5) And it will STAY that way, even if the page is reloaded, as long as the tab containing the NEXRAD page is NOT CLOSED. However, if the tab is CLOSED AND REOPENED, then the symbol key reverts to the way it looked in item #2, above.

EDIT: This appears to be a FIREFOX-ONLY bug, but it can be reproduced on FIrefox 28 on BOTH Mac and Win7.
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106. Barefootontherocks
6:14 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Quoting 104. BriarCraft:

Please fix:
I can mouse-over the Plusses on other people's blogs to see who plussed them. Not so on my own blog. I can see how many plusses I've gotten, but can't see who.
Thanks for mentioning that.
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105. Barefootontherocks
6:07 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Only thing useful on i.wund.com is the local forecast. Radar sucks. I know you stated you'd be releasing a new iphone app this week. Can't hardly wait to see what kind of radar you have on there.

You divert iphones trying to access classic wu to the regular site. (Add: Well, it appears you do.) Why do you not allow iphones to access classic wu?

(edited for clarity)
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104. BriarCraft
6:06 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Please fix:
I can mouse-over the Plusses on other people's blogs to see who plussed them. Not so on my own blog. I can see how many plusses I've gotten, but can't see who.
Member Since: June 21, 2004 Posts: 87 Comments: 4430
103. minnesotamom
4:03 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Just a question---why can't we see the ratings on our own photos once we vote on them?
Thanks! :-)
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102. sandiquiz
3:56 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
EstherD said "So it looks like something about the Delete function in WU Mail on the Massachusetts beta site isn't working properly"...

Well it's not working in the UK either. I Just tried to delete several mails, and had to revert to NUWU from Beta to be able to do it.
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101. minnesotamom
3:20 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
I really, really, REALLY wish you'd put the Title of the photo back above it and the Caption right underneath it. A person can't even FIND the Caption without hunting through all the other info crammed together under the photo! How was this streamlining the process? When I open a photo I want to read the Title and the Caption, then maybe the other info. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE put these back where they belong!! Thanks ever so much!
minnesotamom
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100. sandiquiz
1:34 PM GMT on April 14, 2014
Glad to see all the relevant links back down the right-hand side of the blogs. Much easier to find and use.
Question? Will the last four photos from the blogger be placed back on the side bar any time soon?
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99. EstherD
7:34 AM GMT on April 14, 2014

Quoting 97. whitewabit:
Go into your mouse settings and slow down the mouse track speed and
it will alleviate that problem for you .. but many of us others would
like the roll down menus .. maybe a setting to be able to choose either
or !!


Yes, I know about mouse acceleration settings. That won't help me deal more gracefully with rollover pop-down menus. I have a big screen on a small desk; therefore I need as much mouse acceleration as I can get (big screen) because I have to do short mouse strokes (small desk).

On the current WU site, the rollover pop-down menus are MUCH TOO SENSITIVE... all I have to do is TOUCH one as I'm passing by on my way to somewhere else and the dang thing is in my face. If the menus didn't pop down until I had actually paused the mouse over one of them for a short time -- 0.5 sec, say -- then I might like them better. As they are now, on the current site, I don't like them at all.

As you say, the ideal would be to allow the user to choose how the menus behave; however, that's a LOT of extra work to ask of the developers, don't ya think?

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98. whitewabit (Mod)
6:40 AM GMT on April 14, 2014
pulling the sheet off from the new logo ??

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97. whitewabit (Mod)
6:28 AM GMT on April 14, 2014
Quoting 95. EstherD:

Reading back over comments made a few days ago. Found one I hadn't seen before that I need to respond to.


OH! I absolutely HATE those rollover pop-downs on the current site (and many other sites as well). I LOVE the new click-to-popdown menus on the new beta WU. Here's why...

My co-ordination with a mouse ain't so hot; with a trackpad it's even worse. So if I am aiming to hit a target link or button up near the top of the page where the menus are located, then I'm quite likely to overshoot, and roll over and pop down one of them by accident. Now my intended target is COVERED by the unwanted menu. I can no longer SEE my target, nor HIT it. So I'm forced to put what I was intending to do on hold, reverse course and move away somewhere on the page so the menu will close (being very careful NOT to roll over yet ANOTHER one on the way), WAIT until it closes, and then reverse course YET AGAIN and aim at and move towards my intended target, but SLOWER the second time in hopes of NOT rinsing and repeating my earlier miscue.

What a waste of time and motion! SO much nicer to get a menu ONLY when I want it by CLICKING on it intentionally. (But then I polished my GUI skills on Macintosh, and that's how Mac menus have ALWAYS behaved.)

Developers: Please do NOT make menus behave the way they do on the current site, unless you can implement BOTH behaviors, and give us the option to choose which behavior we want. Thanks.

(With all the time I'm going to save using the new beta menus, I might actually get some HOUSEWORK DONE for a change. ;)



Go into your mouse settings and slow down the mouse track speed and it will alleviate that problem for you .. but many of us others would like the roll down menus .. maybe a setting to be able to choose either or !!
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96. whitewabit (Mod)
6:26 AM GMT on April 14, 2014
opening Preparedness in the Severe Weather Menu at the top of the page and then trying to open menu items under Severe Storms none of those menu items under that category work !!

You get the following error message !!

There's been an error!

We're sorry, but the page you have requested was not found.

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95. EstherD
4:36 AM GMT on April 14, 2014
Reading back over comments made a few days ago. Found one I hadn't seen before that I need to respond to.

Quoting 23. whitewabit:

wondering if the buttons on the top of the page will someday open with out clicking and just by rolling curser over them ?? a really nice feature if were could have it and enables one to quickly see which menu is need for what a blogger is looking for !!

OH! I absolutely HATE those rollover pop-downs on the current site (and many other sites as well). I LOVE the new click-to-popdown menus on the new beta WU. Here's why...

My co-ordination with a mouse ain't so hot; with a trackpad it's even worse. So if I am aiming to hit a target link or button up near the top of the page where the menus are located, then I'm quite likely to overshoot, and roll over and pop down one of them by accident. Now my intended target is COVERED by the unwanted menu. I can no longer SEE my target, nor HIT it. So I'm forced to put what I was intending to do on hold, reverse course and move away somewhere on the page so the menu will close (being very careful NOT to roll over yet ANOTHER one on the way), WAIT until it closes, and then reverse course YET AGAIN and aim at and move towards my intended target, but SLOWER the second time in hopes of NOT rinsing and repeating my earlier miscue.

What a waste of time and motion! SO much nicer to get a menu ONLY when I want it by CLICKING on it intentionally. (But then I polished my GUI skills on Macintosh, and that's how Mac menus have ALWAYS behaved.)

Developers: Please do NOT make menus behave the way they do on the current site, unless you can implement BOTH behaviors, and give us the option to choose which behavior we want. Thanks.

(With all the time I'm going to save using the new beta menus, I might actually get some HOUSEWORK DONE for a change. ;)

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94. PedleyCA
3:42 AM GMT on April 14, 2014
I just noticed what might be an Oops. I was on the Dr.M blog and went to hide a comment and the very next time I reloaded the page that comment was uncovered again. This didn't happen on the old site (I don't think). Aren't they supposed to stay hidden till you un-hide them.
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93. ajgelado
1:39 AM GMT on April 14, 2014
Awesome work! The new graph view is great to get all the data you need at a glance!

I have a suggestion. Would it be possible to select how many days are shown in the graph, maybe as a setting at Page Preferences? Many of us prefer to have a forecast just for the next four or five days, because after that point it can get quite imprecise. Displaying less days would allow to show the data that matter to us in more detail, too. You could leave that setting by default at ten days for new accounts and unregistered visitors, and let users change it if they wish.
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92. Product Team
1:15 AM GMT on April 14, 2014
Quoting 91. EstherD:
Being basically a Mac person, but having to use Windows on the odd occasion, I decided to see how the other half lives.

IE 8 on XP. Don't automatically get sent to the Massachusetts beta site as I do with Firefox on my desktop Mac. Don't get the "Try our Beta" thingy, either. But I'm not one to be so easily discouraged (or deterred, as the case may be). So I went to Goggle and found a link to the Preview site. Yikes! Talk about broken. Or maybe a better word would be "unsupported". Now I know why neither the Preview nor the Beta is auto-presented to IE 8 here in MA.

FF 28 on XP. Automatically sent to the Massachusetts beta site. Only lightly tested, but seems to work about as well as on my desktop Mac.

IE 9 on Win7. Don't automatically get sent to the Massachusetts beta site here, either. But there IS a "Try our Beta" thingy. So off I go. The page I get for Boston or Cambridge looks OK and seems to work (only lightly tested). BUT, it looks like VERY LITTLE linked off the main city page has been converted... it's almost ALL still running on the current site, as far as I can tell. Except for the PWS page, which kinda works, but seems kinda incomplete, too.

FF 28 on Win7. Automatically sent to the Massachusetts beta site. Only lightly tested, but seems to work about as well as on my desktop Mac.

Don't have ready access to IE 10 or IE 11. Wondering what that experience is like.

It's obvious from this brief exploration that there is a HAIL of a lot of work yet to do. Best regards to the new WU site development team -- you've obviously come a LONG way, but equally obviously, you've still got a LONG way to go. Good Luck! (And I mean that with ALL SINCERITY!)

And one final comment I can't resist making. Then I'll stop bothering you with trivialities and let you get back to work... As a 30 year veteran of the Windows vs. Mac/UNIX/Linux wars, I NEVER thought I'd live to see the day when a mainstream website did a better job supporting the non-MS browsers (Firefox, Chrome and Safari) than it did supporting IE. Yowsa! And thanks!



Thank you for so much valuable feedback though we're sorry you're having so many issues - we really appreciate you taking the time to post your experience with the new site design.
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91. EstherD
11:03 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Being basically a Mac person, but having to use Windows on the odd occasion, I decided to see how the other half lives.

IE 8 on XP. Don't automatically get sent to the Massachusetts beta site as I do with Firefox on my desktop Mac. Don't get the "Try our Beta" thingy, either. But I'm not one to be so easily discouraged (or deterred, as the case may be). So I went to Goggle and found a link to the Preview site. Yikes! Talk about broken. Or maybe a better word would be "unsupported". Now I know why neither the Preview nor the Beta is auto-presented to IE 8 here in MA.

FF 28 on XP. Automatically sent to the Massachusetts beta site. Only lightly tested, but seems to work about as well as on my desktop Mac.

IE 9 on Win7. Don't automatically get sent to the Massachusetts beta site here, either. But there IS a "Try our Beta" thingy. So off I go. The page I get for Boston or Cambridge looks OK and seems to work (only lightly tested). BUT, it looks like VERY LITTLE linked off the main city page has been converted... it's almost ALL still running on the current site, as far as I can tell. Except for the PWS page, which kinda works, but seems kinda incomplete, too.

FF 28 on Win7. Automatically sent to the Massachusetts beta site. Only lightly tested, but seems to work about as well as on my desktop Mac.

Don't have ready access to IE 10 or IE 11. Wondering what that experience is like.

It's obvious from this brief exploration that there is a HAIL of a lot of work yet to do. Best regards to the new WU site development team -- you've obviously come a LONG way, but equally obviously, you've still got a LONG way to go. Good Luck! (And I mean that with ALL SINCERITY!)

And one final comment I can't resist making. Then I'll stop bothering you with trivialities and let you get back to work... As a 30 year veteran of the Windows vs. Mac/UNIX/Linux wars, I NEVER thought I'd live to see the day when a mainstream website did a better job supporting the non-MS browsers (Firefox, Chrome and Safari) than it did supporting IE. Yowsa! And thanks!

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90. EstherD
10:29 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
You may already know this, but just in case... WU Mail on the Massachusetts beta site isn't working, at least the part I just tested.

Haven't logged in for awhile. Wanted to delete some old messages. Select All, then Delete. No go. Select each individually and Delete. No go. Select one and Delete. No go.

Thought it might have been because of the age of the messages in question. Went to Classic WU. Select All, then Delete. Worked.

So it looks like something about the Delete function in WU Mail on the Massachusetts beta site isn't working properly.
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89. EstherD
8:27 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Quoting 75. EstherD:

Today's pop quiz for WU beta testers...

Go to the NEXRAD page. (Link is above the map at the top right of any city weather page.)
Above the regionalized view of the US Radar Stations map is a pop-down menu labelled "US Radar Stations".
Click on that menu to open it. Take a good look at it and tell me what's unusual about what you see there.
(Answer tomorrow.)

EDIT at 12:20 AM EDT on April 13, 2014
For extra credit: How is that effect achieved, i.e. describe the algorithm used to produce said result.
(Surprisingly, there DOES appear to be a REASON why it is the way it is, and I'm so proud of myself for (finally) figuring it out! Guess the old gal's still got pretty good programming chops, even in retirement. ;)



[ Originally, I had intended this followup to be illustrated by actual screen grabs of the "US Radar Stations" menu on the NEXRAD page. But based on my experience earlier today with Copy&Paste fail, that particular approach just ain't gonna happen. And since I don't have an account at a data dump site, I cannot link. So a plain-text version will have to suffice. (Users are encouraged not to take my word for it, however, but to go take a look at the actual the menu.) Maybe later, if I have the time and inclination, I'll repost this in my own blog, where it should be possible to include the screen grabs.]

The answer that the professor expected is: "Alphabetization FAIL".

However, based on a later insight that led to the "extra credit" question, the professor is also giving full credit for an answer similar to following: "creative use of alphabetization" or "idiosyncratic alphabetization".

Look at the first four entries:
Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona

Conventional alphabetization would have:
Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas

Further down the list is another anomaly (the professor's personal favorite):
North Carolina, North Dakota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, Nevada, New York

Conventional alphabetization would have:
Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota

What's going on here?! Is this a data entry bug? A sorting bug? Or what?!

Let's make a small change to each menu item, namely prefixing each state's Official USPS® two-letter abbreviation.

For the first list we now have this:
AK - Alaska, AL - Alabama, AR - Arkansas, AZ - Arizona

And for the second list:
NC - North Carolina, ND - North Dakota, NE - Nebraska, NJ - New Jersey, NM - New Mexico, NV - Nevada, NY - New York

Ahhh... The plot thins. The light dawns. It's NOT an "Alphabetization FAIL" after all... It's better characterized as a "creative use of alphabetization" or as an "idiosyncratic alphabetization".

Which is all well and good. However, since this causes the ordering of the list to violate the "principle of least astonishment", the professor thinks that the new site development team should rethink this decision carefully before going into full production release.

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88. zephalis
7:37 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Really enjoying the new format. More options and more to see in one screen-full; it makes me happy.

One suggestion I wanted to make is that you consider adding something similar to the NWS's Quantitative Probabilistic Forecast (QPF) to the forecast options. I've found it to be particularily useful in my area because I'm on a buried river basin at the former mouth of the Red Run River in SE Michigan. Most precipitation potential forecasts are totally off in this area, but the QPF is fairly close.

Here's an example of the format they currently have (with only the std precip and 6hr QPF).

If you were to implement this, I'd suggest finding a way to combine the 3, 6, 12, and 24 hour QPF onto the same view or making them easier to change.

Thanks for the great update...keep it up!
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87. whitewabit (Mod)
6:24 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
found that the Nexrad Site when opened and you set the parameters you want shown and the number of "Frames" you want it set to .. the problem occurs when you "ANIMATE" the screen .. the frames revert to 40 Frames and not what you had set it to !!

But if you first Animate the Radar and then reset the Frames to the number you want it works ..

Seems to me to be backwards from how one should be able to set the frames !! or set it up where you could set it either way !!
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86. EstherD
5:52 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Well, now! THAT little session did NOT go well.

Last night, on my own blog, I piddled around with adding an image to a post w/o storing it on an external server and linking to it, as most folks seem to do. Looked like drag&drop did NOT work, but copy& paste DID. AND I was able to modify that blog entry several times successfully, even added a SECOND image. You can see the result of my effort... it's currently my one-and-only blog entry.

BUT when I tried that same technique HERE just now, all hail broke loose. Upon previewing, BOTH images were good. After posting, the FIRST image was good, but the second had its data truncated and appeared as gobbledegook. After trying to fix the second image using modify, the FIRST image disappeared, even though its data were still there, or at least I think so.

Things kept getting worse and worse each time through a modify cycle, so I finally just deleted what remained of both images and retyped some text at the end that had been truncated.

Won't try THAT again anytime soon. Apologies to anyone who happened to be reading at the time.

Anyone know: Is there some maximum length enforced on postings? Haven't seen that fact documented anywhere. (Based on what I've seen in Dr. M's blog, I've been assuming that either there isn't any length limit, or it's VERY large.)

EDIT: Yeah, I tried the same thing on my own blog that I tried here, and I WAS able to do it successfully there. Not sure what, if anything, that proves, but it's "interesting", as we used to say when running across an unexplained behavioral quirk in our implementations.

(I also note in passing that MY blog modify has a "Preview", but this comment modify does not. Seems like "Preview" would be useful in this context as well, unless THIS "modify" is really intended only for SMALL changes, like fixing typos.)
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85. EstherD
5:26 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Quoting 82. BriarCraft:



In the Roll-out, all they really did is make the logo white on a black background. BORING!
That is what I've been seeing in the upper-left of every page since the Massachusetts roll-out Friday morning.

I've been assuming that's just a stand-in for the new logo, which hasn't been revealed yet, because down in the lower-right corner of most pages the little guys are still hard at work, and haven't yet pulled the cover off what I presume is the new logo.

But perhaps the black&white logo IS the real deal. If so, then yeah, boring.

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84. palmettobug53
5:26 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
I must not live in the right place. I see no change anywhere except on my home weather page.

Which is the main reason why I've not been able to provide any constructive feedback.

My only request would be to allow a blog owner to reply to posted comments within the comment itself, on their own blogs, like we used to be able to do.

Or to have a 'Reply' function like WordPress does.

The 'quote' function just doesn't do it for me.

(I realize why the ability to edit within a posted comment was replaced by the 'quote' function; there were some blog wars going on at the time. People were being childish and changing the wording of posted comments to be able to say, "You didn't say that" or "You DID say so-and-so or such-and-such." It was a headache but I think most of those folks are now long gone.)
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83. EstherD
5:13 PM GMT on April 13, 2014

Quoting 77. EstherD:

Joys of beta testing...

All day long the symbol key below the US Radar Stations map on the NEXRAD page has looked like this:
+ NEXRAD     + Current     + Station Down

And all day long the TDWR stations have been shown on the map their usual yellow cross symbol, just not in the key.

So all day long I've been wondering: "Where's the TDWR?" and asking myself whether to report it or not.

Just now, as I'm looking at it, the page reloads, and all of a sudden it looks like this:
+ TDWR     + NEXRAD     + Current     + Station Down

Guess someone else noticed it, too, and so it was fixed.

Looks like the beavers are busy tonight! ;)

Well, it WAS there last night. I'm SURE of it. But today it's as it was, namely no TDWR symbol in the map key.

Thought it might be that the window width was too narrow, so I expanded it. Nope. All I got for my trouble was more whitespace on either side.

Thought it might be my browser, so I tried both Safari 5.1.10 and Chrome 34.0.1847.116. Nope. Same result with both browsers, and didn't matter whether the window was wide or narrow.

Forced to conclude that the TDWR symbol in the map key is, once again, missing in action. Or that some of the CDN servers have it, and some don't.
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82. BriarCraft
5:11 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Quoting 78. Barefootontherocks:

Those stick figures, frame after frame like a newspaper comic, spent several days tearing down the old wu rainbow and rain cloud logo. The "tent" covers the new logo. When the new logo is revealed we all get to go oooh, ahhh... or say, "Crap, that's ugly."


In the Roll-out, all they really did is make the logo white on a black background. BORING!
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81. Fieldofflowers
4:05 PM GMT on April 13, 2014
Being in one of these 'Lucky States' I can see the newest update. I also don't see a cat or pile of stuff. Or any stick figures. - Had to go to a proxy to see what people were commenting about. I've only had a brief time to look at it. Right now looks like typing comments is a little buggy if I take my curser off where I am done typing. If I go back to spellcheck or edit a word, the curser doesn't know where to go back. Typing after editing can be awkward. As far as the weather site goes, I'll have to look at that in more detail when I return from work. I still use the classic view for most of my browsing. I don't like this update as much as the classic view, but at least it is less cluttered than the last update. I found that one hard to read even though it had a lot of info.

Also when editing comments the box is kind of small. I'd like to see more than 2 lines. (I also notice the bugginess seems resolved in the edit box, but just not for first time typing.) This is using WU on Safari, btw.
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80. EstherD
4:35 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
Apologies in advance. I can't resist the urge...

I haven't had so much FUN in YEARS! At least not since I retired from professional programming over 5 years ago.

I have always LOVED to pick away at implementations, to try to find ways to make them BREAK.

And what's even nicer about this is: it's not MY implementation, so I don't have to FIX it. ;) ;) ;)

Now back to your regularly scheduled WU beta testing discussion...
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79. Barefootontherocks
4:19 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
Hi EstherD,
Have a good night. I gotta hit the hay. Staying up till the wee hours of today about did me in. lol
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78. Barefootontherocks
4:15 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
Quoting 74. MarkOnePubs:
I have been trying to make out the little image in the upper left-hand corner. It looks like someone is raking a cat, and the other guy is dubiously looking over a tent. However, I know that can't be what the image means. Please, when you try to use an image, could you make sure people can understand it?
Those stick figures, frame after frame like a newspaper comic, spent several days tearing down the old wu rainbow and rain cloud logo. The "tent" covers the new logo. When the new logo is revealed we all get to go oooh, ahhh... or say, "Crap, that's ugly."
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77. EstherD
3:54 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
Joys of beta testing...

All day long the symbol key below the US Radar Stations map on the NEXRAD page has looked like this:
+ NEXRAD     + Current     + Station Down

And all day long the TDWR stations have been shown on the map their usual yellow cross symbol, just not in the key.

So all day long I've been wondering: "Where's the TDWR?" and asking myself whether to report it or not.

Just now, as I'm looking at it, the page reloads, and all of a sudden it looks like this:
+ TDWR     + NEXRAD     + Current     + Station Down

Guess someone else noticed it, too, and so it was fixed.

Looks like the beavers are busy tonight! ;)
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76. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
3:40 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
a cat?.. really.. :O

it's the letter from the word Wunderground.com actually in a pile.. but okay.
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75. EstherD
3:40 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
Today's pop quiz for WU beta testers...

Go to the NEXRAD page. (Link is above the map at the top right of any city weather page.)
Above the regionalized view of the US Radar Stations map is a pop-down menu labelled "US Radar Stations".
Click on that menu to open it. Take a good look at it and tell me what's unusual about what you see there.
(Answer tomorrow.)

EDIT at 12:20 AM EDT on April 13, 2014
For extra credit: How is that effect achieved, i.e. describe the algorithm used to produce said result.
(Surprisingly, there DOES appear to be a REASON why it is the way it is, and I'm so proud of myself for (finally) figuring it out! Guess the old gal's still got pretty good programming chops, even in retirement. ;)
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74. MarkOnePubs
3:32 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
I have been trying to make out the little image in the upper left-hand corner. It looks like someone is raking a cat, and the other guy is dubiously looking over a tent. However, I know that can't be what the image means. Please, when you try to use an image, could you make sure people can understand it?
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73. Barefootontherocks
1:47 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
Twice tried from the Valley Center KS forecast page to type what's below on the feedback form and twice the page refreshed by itself wiping out what I had written. Going back to previous page, I found the text of the feedback I had sent about a half hour earlier. Then the unresponsive script message popped onto the screen. Someone else commented about this unasked for page refresh happening, and Angela said it was fixed.

The feedback that I tried to send in and couldn't:
I miss very much the link on the local radar page that went straight to the appropriate regional radar. You can't imagine how helpful that is when watching severe outbreaks. Really. I hope you'll put it back when you have time.

And in (oh God I hope it is) closing,
I'll just presume all the glitches I experience are because of my old FF and leave it at that. Can't handle non-functional radar. No more beta for me. No.New.nuwu. Back to classic I go.

8:50 cdt Wow, is this page loading slow. 'Bye now. ;)
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72. Barefootontherocks
1:01 AM GMT on April 13, 2014
That's neat,bl.
...

Radar, viewing Kansas severe tstorms on beta nexrad:
The good news
I can get a full zoom out by page refresh without losing "X" marks the spot of a small town.

Can zoom in fine by clicking screen.

Animation works and can be set.

Lightning button appears to work. Not much lightning.

The severe button works for watch and warning. Needs to be turned on again after zoom out - a fine thing.

The bad news - Radar drop-downs not working
The storm tracks drop down does not work for me. The drop down to change radar to storm relative, etc does not work for me. Neither does the zoom in and out drop down. So, all three radar drop down menus do not work --- for me.

The last two I can work around. The first, I cannot. Need functioning storm tracks.

Perhaps it is my antiquated browser. Mentioning this anyway, in case the issue is more widespread.
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71. beell
11:00 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
The NuWuBeta appears to strip out those annoying line breaks when I copy/paste almost any noaa.gov text product into a blog page. That's almost worth the WUangst of change all by itself!
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70. Barefootontherocks
10:44 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
At least I can use modify comment. Nothing drag-able about the box, but my up, down and sideways arrows work to scroll through the one and a half lines I can see at a time.
:P
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69. Barefootontherocks
10:35 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
Esther D,
Thanks. I'm glad the local radar zoom works for some or maybe most viewers. Wonder how it's working on ipad and iphone.

RE: storms. You may already know his, but other readers might not. Enabling "storms" allows user to see the speed and direction of individual storms and also places a list below the radar with data about each storm identified on the screen. I use show all storms most times. Just depends on what is going on. With "storms" showing and not hidden, the radar screen identifies each storm with a number and icons - yellow and pink, for the type of storm. And arrows indicate how fast storm is expected to move and in what direction. Below the radar box, the list of storms in table format has height, speed and direction for each, and each storm's capacity to produce large hail. Other stuff also. Onscreen, a little pink triangle icon indicates storm rotation but is not as indicative of rotation as is Storm Relative Velocity.

Storm relative velocity is oh-so-useful for seeing rotation in a storm cell. Briefly, on it you can see winds moving into and away from the radar. I find it easier to see rotation on NWS nexrad loops than on the wu nexrad clone. The NWS colors are brighter - red and green. Maybe not a viable alternative if one is color blind.

Even though I'd love a new Mac, I'm not ready to go buy a computer and the software I'd need just 'cause wu local radar is not compatible with the ancient browser I cannot upgrade. If the "no-able-to-speak-zoom-out" problem on beta is mine, I'll use classic radar on my laptop. Simpler anyway, and always worked fine. And, as you say, maybe the developers will make changes eventually to suit oddballs.

Meanwhile I will see what alternatives are out there for my laptop. Classic wu has gone down a few times during this beta test and roll out. Also will check and see how the wu and other local radars work with iphone.

Thanks again and have a nice eve/night.
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68. EstherD
10:24 PM GMT on April 12, 2014
Agree with Sandi. You have to drag STRAIGHT DOWN, being careful not to accidentally drag RIGHT as well. Otherwise, important stuff like the "Submit" button, and the drag thingy itself, gets lost behind what appears to be a clipping boundary that runs down the right-hand edge of the blog text. It's OK if you drag a bit too far right and then correct by dragging back to the left. Just don't let go too soon... else all is lost and there's no way to recover that I've found except to reload the page.
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