Try our Beta Forecast Page!

By: Product Team , 7:17 PM GMT on January 08, 2014

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Happy New Year! We at Weather Underground have big plans for 2014, and to start, have a look at our brand new beta forecast page. New design, new features, and more to come!

Why are we launching to beta first? Most importantly, we want A LOT of feedback over the next few months before we move forward. We want to know which features are important to you, what you like, what you don’t like, and why.

We’re launching with a limited set of features because we want you to weigh in as they come out of development. We’re so excited about some of the new elements, like the forecast graph, that we want to get them in front of your eyes as soon as possible. Play around with the graph, add data, remove data, experiment with it in all the weather that comes through your area over the next few weeks, and let us know what you think.

As we’ve said before, this is just a beta, and it’s only the beginning. We’re working on adding more data, redesigning more features, adding weather history, figuring out a way to visualize today’s actuals and accumulations, and a whole lot more. We’ll be launching new features periodically to this page, so be sure to check back often. You’re also welcome to bookmark this page and use it as your regular forecast page!

To check it out, visit your normal Weather Underground forecast page and click on the blue BETA tab on the right side of the page. Or, navigate to your city from preview.wunderground.com.

Be sure to submit your feedback using the link in the blue BETA tab, and let us know what you’re looking for us to include using the form at the bottom of the page. Happy BETA-ing!

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251. Perturbance
10:47 PM GMT on April 11, 2014
This may have already been mentioned by others, but if not: using the new Beta Preview format, there are lines of text in the Scientific Forecaster Discussion, without abbreviations, that are too long for the pane to contain in its default size. This requires the user to have to scroll left and right in order to see everything on that line.

My screen resolution is 1280x1024 and the browser is full-screen. There is a lot of blank space off to the right of the page, presumably for ads or sidebars (which for me at least, are blank.) My suggestion is to make the section for the Scientific Forecaster Discussion bigger, so that all text will properly print without the need to scroll.

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250. chilisquesoftw
1:30 PM GMT on March 28, 2014
I don't care for the aesthetics (mostly color scheme), but I do like the more modern functionality.

I also miss the ability to change the look of the weather icons! I hope that feature stays.
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249. geohydromet
10:38 PM GMT on March 26, 2014
I seriously like this new webpage format way much better--thanks! Enjoy your day.
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248. DeertrailRon
5:48 PM GMT on March 20, 2014
Updated 3 hr 22 min 10 sec ago - This station is not reporting! What is going on? All the other Weather Data is going to other Weather Servers. APRSWXNET Deer Trail is always DEAD most of the time. Weather Conditions At DW0573 and Cottonwood Deer Trail, CO Weather Forecast from Weather Underground Plus MESOWEST STATION INTERFACE as they are updating every 10 minutes.

Just like wundergroun, no one cares about there j0bs, just a long as theY get paid. :( SAD....!! The weather station for Deer Trail Colorado is NOT reporting or updating the data every 10 minute and the web cam photos are all screwed up.....!!!
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247. chinadad99
4:40 PM GMT on March 12, 2014
I see a lot of negative comments here, but hey, I really like the new look, and as far as I can see, all of the features that I have appreciated about the Weather Underground—the maps, and most distinctively, the network of local weather stations—are still here, but in a much more visually appealing format. Don't abandon your current vision—you're on the right track!

I do, however, have one simple suggestion--one that I made earlier, but so far have not seen implemented. It relates to your new Forecast format.

Currently, you describe the forecast in three ways: with a graph, with a table, and with words. All three formats are descriptive in their own ways. So why refer only to the third format as descriptive? The correct word is not "Descriptive," but "Text." Make this simple, one-word change, and then the new site will be perfect. :-)
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246. HJRT
12:52 PM GMT on February 17, 2014
No, No No! Don't make this a "weather at a glance" site. Leave that for the TWC. Don't you understand your audience by now? Your user is someone who will open the site and spend 20-30 minutes looking at data and maps and making our own thoughtful analysis.
Instead of cloning TWC, embrace the difference between WU and TWC. Develop this site for those who love meteorology and not for those who just want to know today's forecast.
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245. Dale3
5:40 PM GMT on February 03, 2014
After reading the remarks I'd say it's a simple solution: Keep the current format (and the link to 'classic') for those who need detailed weather information and use the Beta for phones, pads, etc. But if Beta is the only site then I guess this long time user is out of here along with my PWS which I might add, will be down for the month of February.
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244. Susereign
8:38 AM GMT on February 03, 2014
Was watching the data via my PWS about 3hrs ago and returned to find when I click on my PWS - I don't have one. Where did it go?
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243. Susereign
6:24 AM GMT on January 28, 2014
During yet another storm I ambled over to the PWS Beta Page. I was pleased to see the windy (especially) data working and liked the extra info available too. Like the amount of rain, in inches! In all fairness, I believe when all the bells and whistles are up and running, this will be as good as the 'classic' version. Like many, I don't adjust easily to change, but do it I will. Have been pleasantly surprised so far :) We are lucky to get the chance at testing the beta format and put in our penny's worth on what to keep, add or subtract. My mindset on the whole experience has become sunnier (deliberate pun). I bet there's a good few on here who watch NASA and other launches to the ISS. So I look on myself as being part of the 'launch' team in getting this baby off the ground. It's a huge task and am looking forward to the GFL (Go For Launch) day. I might not blub like I do watching a launch, but cheer I will :)
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242. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
9:12 PM GMT on January 23, 2014
wuproductteam has created a new entry.
241. milani01
6:53 PM GMT on January 23, 2014
I have used weather underground since 1994 when it ran on a gopher server in umich under someone's desk (fire up that 2400 baud modem and windows terminal), and it was a great source of weather information and data. Weather Underground was always a great place for a weather enthusiast to get the info they needed. I would hate to see the changeover completely to the new format. The format is fine for a mobile device or ipad, but not the desktop. Maybe you should give registered users their choice of interface. While some casual users may like the new look/feel, true weather enthusiasts who need data will not.
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240. Tmax
10:11 PM GMT on January 22, 2014
Wunder if they got the hint from the sample base that this change is not going to go over well if implemented.I can only hope that's the case. They took down the link i see that's what makes me wonder as well.
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239. cybernagel
5:34 PM GMT on January 22, 2014
Hmm...the link to this page was been removed from my WU landing page.

What does this mean? Has WU reached a decision on the BETA? If so, what is that decision?
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238. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
3:19 PM GMT on January 22, 2014
Quoting 237. CenterWeather:
The weather forcast from WU used to be more specific to my remote area. Now that TWC has taken over, it is the same as the National Weather Service forcast for an airport that is fifty miles away. This is the same information I was getting from TWC for my area before they acquired WU and is why I did not pay much attention to their forcast.


the personal weather station(s) should still be listed in the beta preview page for your area. Try clicking on the change location option to see the list of weather data for your area.
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237. CenterWeather
3:18 AM GMT on January 22, 2014
The weather forcast from WU used to be more specific to my remote area. Now that TWC has taken over, it is the same as the National Weather Service forcast for an airport that is fifty miles away. This is the same information I was getting from TWC for my area before they acquired WU and is why I did not pay much attention to their forcast.

The information from the PWS is very important. When there is severe weather, I look at the PWS in my area to get a better understanding of what is going on around my area. When traveling, I look at the PWS along the route and then I know much more about what is happening than I would by looking at TWC.

WU used to have much more useful and accurate information for rural areas than any other weather sight. That may not hold true in the future.

I use the classic view because it has so much to offer and I do not wish to see it change.

The beta version, so far, is great for someone who just wants to know the temperature and wind speed but has very little to offer someone seriously interested in the weather.

I have a considerable amount of time and money invested in my PWS to make sure it is reporting reliable information. If WU continues on its current path, I will look elsewhere to post this information where it will be used and appreciated.
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236. F2000Doc
9:33 PM GMT on January 21, 2014
I don't like it. You have managed to dummy it down to the point that it is now worthless. I am very surprised that you did not listen to the majority of the responses and put it up anyway. I for one am taking my weather station and web cam and looking for someplace else for it.
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235. cybernagel
5:09 PM GMT on January 21, 2014
First - I agree with the thoughts of most of the posts I have read here. The new interface may be OK for mobile users, but it has no place on an actual computer screen.

For computers in general, one experience does NOT fit all devices; a phone is different from a tablet, which is different from an actual computer. The interfaces / screens for each should be different, and optimized for each platform. Once companies realize this, and quit tryng to force-fit a "one-size-fits-all" for every type of device, we will all be happier.


Second - it is common knowledge by now on this thread that WU is owned by The Weather Company (TWC), who also owns the Weather Channel, weather.com, and intellicast.com.

But, do you know who owns TWC? Here is a direct quote from the "About Us" page on the Intellicast website (http://www.intellicast.com/About/Default.aspx):


"The Weather Company is owned by a consortium made up of NBC Universal and the private equity firms The Blackstone Group and Bain Capital."
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234. Seasons4me
4:45 PM GMT on January 21, 2014
Is Weather Underground owned by Yahoo because they are trying to ruin Flicker and Yahoo email too !!
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233. lobster
4:12 PM GMT on January 21, 2014
As another paying member since the very early days, I agree wholeheartedly with this poster. Especially in keeping the table forecast and ditching the chart, and keeping the webpages as a separate entity from any mobile solutions.

Quoting 228. riblet2000:
Well so far I like the uncluttered look. You've axed the useless clutter (news, blogs, etc.) taking up 1/3 of the "new site" screen that kept me from switching from 'classic'. There is a lot missing here though, most of it unnecessarily absent given some of the evident design choices. You need to quit designing to tiny, inadequate mobile screens that can be reached by other more appropriate methods and enhance the experience for the vast majority of us who use a proper computer to access this site.

Now for some suggestions: (1) Keep the "weather events", "news" and "weather summary" OFF the page. Make them links or buttons if you can't live without them. They take up far too much screen space and provide little usable information.

(2) Quadruple the height of the "wundermap" as mentioned earlier. That little horizontal strip is just slightly more than useless and the radar map is a critical bit of info. Or better, put it in the left half of the screen in the white space which results when you click on "more conditions", which should be the default display mode. That gives us more current data *AND* the radar map right under the temp. If the wundermap won't work there then put the local radar map you get when you click on "local radar" there by default.

(3) Default the forecast to "table" mode. The graph is really quite useless.

(4) Put the "history and almanac" data under the forecast or at the end of "conditions".

(5) The favorites bar is a big improvement. Everything I need to know about those, using minimum screen real estate.

(6) Regional forecast is missing. And while I am on regional data, when are you going to fix the regional radar display map? The region selector grid has been broken (at least on Chrome) for months now.

I'll revisit the beta display in a couple weeks to see if anything has changed. Some of my gripes about the "new site" have been addressed, mostly related to forecast data not being at the bottom of the page, so I am hopeful you are actually listening to your users (I've been a paying member here for 11 years) and are not trying to be Yet Another iPhone App Lost In The Ether. Please don't. It is a losing proposition. We're here for data, not a video game.
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232. Jestr
3:09 PM GMT on January 21, 2014
I too will have to agree w/ most comments on your proposed WU changes/BETA...What is wrong w/ what we have now??? If this change proceeds, based on how your current BETA path is proceeding, I will leave WU for something else. The Beta, to put it bluntly is like the weather channel is now...useless. The saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! KVAVIRGI57
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231. Tmax
7:31 AM GMT on January 21, 2014
Don't mean to be mean but the mentality I see here is mostly because older users that are used to the data presentation as it is. Like me I loved the classic and was angry when they changed. I run a PWS and believe me I wanted the page left as it was. Then they changed to how it currently is, took me awhile but I love it. However here comes the mean part. They want to build the dummy page for the next generation not the older generation. What they don't realize if they do the change their old data providing PWS stations are going to go offline and these kids now days want nothing to do with setting up a station. Whether they are lazy or just uninterested or both they simply don't give 2 hoots about sending; all they want it receiving. To get something you got to give something. I won't give my data if they change to this new format. I have been with them since 2002 and I spent a lot of money on my now 2nd station. I spend hundreds keeping servers and systems up to date to maintain comprehensible data for my end user. These kids today want want want well what are you going to do when there is no one to give give give. The proof is in the pudding as I have read this forums posts. On average and although there aren't a lot of posts 80 to 85% are saying leave it alone. They are saying if you want a dummy version for mobile fine but leave the main alone. These are just observations of course it isn't like I am a meteorologist or anything, Oh wait, I AM! I am also old and change to me means restricted to a mentality of the uninteresting pages provided by WU oh wait TWC for a generation of mobile users mostly young people that don%u2019t care how the data was collected. No Thanks. Older is better, and less is not more. I would rather be backwards an overloaded then dummied down and simply useless.
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230. specialp
4:57 AM GMT on January 21, 2014
I think you guys are being rather backward commenting on this. This is only a start and I think they will make it more functional in the future. I am a developer and a weather station operator/enthusiast so I hear you on the not Applefying the site and doing away with the things the power users want. But there is something to be said about clean designs that do not clutter the important information to the majority of the users.

Mobile is here to stay whether you like it or not. Apps and separate webpages are dying now for mobile there should be a responsively designed site that works well on many devices. You do know that very shortly mobile/tablet browsing will be the majority of browsing. I just hope that Wunderground allows us to keep the things we like on our screens by making it configurable.
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229. thedeercat
12:31 AM GMT on January 21, 2014
Please don't dumb it down for those of us that like all the information handy. Where will the long term forecasts go? Could someone tell us the reasoning behind the changes? Please listen to your users!!!!
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228. riblet2000
10:21 PM GMT on January 20, 2014
Well so far I like the uncluttered look. You've axed the useless clutter (news, blogs, etc.) taking up 1/3 of the "new site" screen that kept me from switching from 'classic'. There is a lot missing here though, most of it unnecessarily absent given some of the evident design choices. You need to quit designing to tiny, inadequate mobile screens that can be reached by other more appropriate methods and enhance the experience for the vast majority of us who use a proper computer to access this site.

Now for some suggestions: (1) Keep the "weather events", "news" and "weather summary" OFF the page. Make them links or buttons if you can't live without them. They take up far too much screen space and provide little usable information.

(2) Quadruple the height of the "wundermap" as mentioned earlier. That little horizontal strip is just slightly more than useless and the radar map is a critical bit of info. Or better, put it in the left half of the screen in the white space which results when you click on "more conditions", which should be the default display mode. That gives us more current data *AND* the radar map right under the temp. If the wundermap won't work there then put the local radar map you get when you click on "local radar" there by default.

(3) Default the forecast to "table" mode. The graph is really quite useless.

(4) Put the "history and almanac" data under the forecast or at the end of "conditions".

(5) The favorites bar is a big improvement. Everything I need to know about those, using minimum screen real estate.

(6) Regional forecast is missing. And while I am on regional data, when are you going to fix the regional radar display map? The region selector grid has been broken (at least on Chrome) for months now.

I'll revisit the beta display in a couple weeks to see if anything has changed. Some of my gripes about the "new site" have been addressed, mostly related to forecast data not being at the bottom of the page, so I am hopeful you are actually listening to your users (I've been a paying member here for 11 years) and are not trying to be Yet Another iPhone App Lost In The Ether. Please don't. It is a losing proposition. We're here for data, not a video game.
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227. OftenBaffled
8:38 PM GMT on January 20, 2014
The new Beta is simply awful.

Please leave WU alone apart from adding new features and options as requested by existing WU members.

For instance, request by members for more flexible selections for units has been 'under review' for more than a year. See HERE for details.

WU have developed the Beta, which is a nightmare, while suggestions by members for useful improvements have been ignored.

Come on, WU, sort it out!
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226. jfindley
2:48 PM GMT on January 20, 2014
Quoting 219. BahaHurican:
I also want to encourage those who like the site the way it is right now to speak more constructively about what it is you particularly appreciate about / need from the current site. I don't think change can be completely avoided, and simply saying, "I hate everything" is not going to get what you want onto the revamped site. Therefore, rather than simply bailing from Wunderground after investing in your 10 years of membership, be explicit and forceful about the things that need to stay.


I agree with this wholeheartedly. And as an example, here is what I like currently about the main site:

There is a ton of information with links to more on additional pages.

The information is presented in a clear manner which is easy to use without being too PlaySkool.

Current downsides:

There are too many individual elements on the main page. It simply takes too long to load especially on mobile devices. It might be nice to be able to choose which elements you'd like to load similar to what iGoogle did. Load each thing as a widget on your own custom page.

Although there is a lot of information available the way you get to it can be different for each topic - astronomy is accessed differently than almanac data for example. A consistent interface would help clean this up and translate to mobile devices well.

The current Mobile, iPhone, and Lite sites are completely inadequate. They all simplify by mostly having less (way less) information. I'd suggest standardizing an icon set, fonts, and the flowchart of how information is accessed. Make it consistent across all platforms. Don't assume that because I'm accessing information via the Mobile site that I don't still want the same information.

Now for the Beta site:

I like some of the design elements. The Javascript graph is a good idea - maybe could use a little tuning and testing on other platforms. The cleaner interface is a good attempt to make the most pertinent data easily viewable. I personally do not like giant fonts and bright colors, but that's me.

There are a lot of places where just plain HTML could really help. For example, where the icon and text shows for the moon phase it could be a link to astronomy. Little things like that can help cram a lot of detail into a small amount of space.

Lastly, don't design completely around the fact that users might be viewing this on a small phone screen. Instead, keep a lot of data there and allow the user to use the device's ability to re-size and zoom to make it more readable. And again, allowing users to build a custom page with various widgets (and what's important to them) would go a long way to keeping everyone happy. New users that want just some basic info could use a basic template. More seasoned users that want a ton of data could configure their experience to allow that.

I still think this is one of the best web sites ever and I use it every single day multiple times. I hope some constructive criticism and suggestions can help move it forward.

JF

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225. rickarla
1:40 PM GMT on January 20, 2014
My draw to WU was because of the inclusion of PWS. Those of us who do not live in the bigger cities and who supply weather info for people in our areas appreciate having that ability.

To reinforce what pnb85 says, the "next step" in my mind is to increase the personalization aspect for each user and for those of us who upload data from our PWS. It truly is about data, at least for most people who are really into the weather. It would be a nice touch to be able to create our own web page for those of us with PWS. The personalized approach should satisfy those who wish to see less.

I'm assuming that the beta is not reflective (at this stage) of the final product and hope that a move to more (not less), personalized data is the final objective.
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224. dlallen66
8:05 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
Well, now I know why WU has been sliding down the tubes, TWC owns it. If you go making it any worse then you won't get another dime from me. Trash the bullcrap changes.
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223. boteman
6:38 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
I like the Graph mode under Forecast. The wind arrows show the direction from which the wind blows which is a nice addition. Moving the mouse along the graph provides forecast temperature and wind speed+direction for each hour.

Consider providing keyboard input to move the selector when the mouse is not usable for whatever reason. The mouse pad on my laptop is horrible and some people have limited mobility in their hands and fingers, but touching one key on a keyboard is much easier for them. That graphic forecast widget could become a powerful widget on the new site.

Maybe restore the choices from a selection of icons or skins, with variants such as a dark theme for use at night or in a darkened environment like a communications center where preserving night vision is a priority. That would apply to whole site for that matter.
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222. boteman
6:12 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
To fulfill both goals of a slimmer UX for mobile users and a data-rich presentation for large screen desktop users, the solution is to write a mobile app for iOS and one for Android that interfaces to the same weather database used by the current web interface.

This allows the web interface to provide the visually dense and data-rich information content for which users are clamoring (that is the unique attraction of this site.) It also frees up the mobile designers to design to the strengths of portable devices with smaller screens, unfettered by considerations for compatibility with the large desktop screens and the more powerful browser engines.

In short, it would keep everybody happy. I really don't see people visiting this web site on a mobile device anyway if a quality mobile app is available.
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Suggestions: Modularize the overview page. Allow users to select which widgets appear and which remain docked. Maybe it could look like the cockpit of a commercial airliner. There's a design challenge for ya!

Allow users to move each widget to their preferred locations on the page grid and size each widget as desired; maybe I want the RADAR to be larger and the temperature and wind boxes to be smaller for now. Clicking on a widget takes you to a detail page with expanded info related to that widget.

Allow users to select text, or graphic, or both per widget. For example, place the temperature digits layered over a thermometer graphic to provide both a quick glance and an accurate reading with a longer look.

The WUndermap should be resizeable just like this edit box where I'm typing this message.

Provide keyboard commands where they make sense and increase the options for those with limited dexterity. Not everybody has full use of their fingers, but poking at one keystroke can be a refreshing alternative to an otherwise tedious mouse operation that should be simple.

More design magic available at my hourly rate.
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221. TropicalAnalystwx13
5:57 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
It's a very simple design, I personally like it and don't see why people are having issues with it. All the information is presented clearly. If you're the kind of person that doesn't like change, well, nothing can be done with that from WU's point of view.
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220. QuietOne
5:54 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
You guys made a big mistake when you went and did the last "Update" and now you're doing it again.

Things went from Usable to Less-Than-Usable; we lost easy access to much of the data we had then and there's far too much scrolling required now in the current UI. What are you gonna do now introduce even more scrolling to get to what little there is??????

Adding a "History" capability will/would be very useful but it would also depend on how far back it (the history function) kept records. It would also need to incorporate EVERY Weather criteria there is (Temp, Humidity, Pressure, Wind (Speed & Direction), Dew Point, Wind Chill, etc. etc.) If you do it, it also needs to incorporate a COMPLETE history (every record you have for every location - Yes, every record for every location).

I don't actually expect you to do it but there it is.

What's needed is a return to the old UI and an enhancement of that UI to include a COMPLETE History Function.

Mess things up like you did last time and I will very likely drop WU as I can already get what I need elsewhere with far less hassle. It's also already got a history function and far more data than WU has.

I also have access to WORLD Weather; ANY Weather Alert I need; Hurricane Tracking; Tornado Forecasts; Fire Info; ALL the Weather criteria I mentioned plus a bunch more; ALL simply by selecting the location & Data I want to check including Data Histories. Not on my computer but on my phone. My only gripe about IT is the text size but that's a factor of the screen size and resolution. Never-the-less, I'll overcome that problem. However a Bad Update to your UI is an entirely different matter.

And FTR, Yes I have the WU App on my phone but it's the one app I use the least due to the difficulty of the UI and lack of data availability.
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219. BahaHurican
4:13 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
Quoting 111. CosmicEvents:
I'd suggest taking a poll of your PWS providers. This is an asset base very valuable and If it was me I'd get input from them....as well as the general member comments you get here.
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I also generally recommend thay you let TWC do whatever betas they want.
Let WU lead the way in going back to the future. Go retro-tech and build on the base of the true weather geek. Stay as you are,. The WU brand will only become a stronger asset to TWC if you're different. If you're the same you'll lose your edge, eventually get fully merged, and then you'll lose your jobs as well.
This is a real comment that informs the developers.

I haven't gone back to the beta site this week as yet, but I definitely think there are some good suggestions in this comments section.

Something else I'm noticing is that the strongest "anti" comments are coming from the older users, who are giving less constructive criticism and more "don't change anything" and anti-TWC comments. It would be good to see some more feedback from the younger / newer site users as well. Then we can get an effective meld of what works for the widest range of participants.


I also want to encourage those who like the site the way it is right now to speak more constructively about what it is you particularly appreciate about / need from the current site. I don't think change can be completely avoided, and simply saying, "I hate everything" is not going to get what you want onto the revamped site. Therefore, rather than simply bailing from Wunderground after investing in your 10 years of membership, be explicit and forceful about the things that need to stay.

Frankly, I don't think there is another site out there as good as this one, anyway, and a lot of this site's power is the constructive feedback from members. I think the site developers recognise this, which is why they have this developers' blog open in the first place. Instead of vilifying them for things they haven't done yet, give them the direction they are asking you for.

Don't forget we still have the WunderYakuza out there, making miracles happen if we are willing to say which ones we need...
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218. boteman
3:19 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
I'm not the kind of guy who says, "I told ya so..." when TWC bought out the formerly excellent Weather Underground. It didn't even take as long as I predicted.

Now come the little yellow raincoats and smiling Mr. Sun all over the weather map. No, thank you. I'm an adult.
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217. petesmom
12:01 AM GMT on January 20, 2014
I'd like the option to minimize the news section of the mobile screen, since whoever chooses the articles prefers liberal views and ideas and not real news.
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216. Sfloridacat5
6:22 PM GMT on January 19, 2014
Doesn't TWC also own Intellicast.com
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215. littlejeanie
4:14 PM GMT on January 19, 2014
Quoting 209. Tabby:
As so many have said, I came here for all the excellent information. I've learned a lot and really enjoyed all the years I've been a member, but I pay my membership (and always considered it a real bargain) here because I'm interested in depth. There are plenty of apps for phones but not so many sites that offer information for everybody from newbies to old salts in as much or little detail as you choose. I too will sadly seek another site if this is the new direction. Please keep wunderground wunder-us!
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214. Thor34
3:00 PM GMT on January 19, 2014
I now know TWC owns Weather Underground. That does explain why they want to change the format. I agree with almost all the previous comments that do not like the beta change so far. This also explains why the ios 7 look on the iphone also changed. If the direction of Weather Underground is going to change to a similar Weather Channel experience then I will not renew with WU.
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213. 10C
2:35 PM GMT on January 19, 2014
So much has been said about the Beta product. Yes, that is what it is... a product you are trying to sell. I do not understand why TWC would want to clone itself. I am not an educated weather person, but I am smart enough to see results. You have always had better weather forcasts than TWC, because you focus on the details, the small communities, not just the large metro areas. You serve a purpose, fill a need reliably. Please do not change just to keep busy. Simple is not better in weather forecasting.
As my dad always said "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
Thank you for asking for our opinions.
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212. Criqet
2:06 PM GMT on January 19, 2014
Dr. Jeff Masters assured me that TWC would not significantly change WU! I see now that is not true!They are taking it down the same road the Weather Channel went! It is no longer about weather but weather-tainment!! How sad!! I have been a user of WU for over a decade,I upload data to it from my personal weather station and have for ten years!

I agree with most! "Classic WU" is/was the best!!! I too want data....what's next reality videos on WU??

I feel Dr. Masters, who I respected immensely, sold us all down the river!! not that I blame him, I'm sure he got a pretty penny to do so! Very disappointing
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211. Monarch1
10:27 AM GMT on January 19, 2014
Quoting 202. YourOldMan:
As a real weather Geek, I despise your beta product. It's as useless as TWC, or even merely looking out the window. Data is what I like to see, and as much as possible. I especially like the ability to readily change or hop-to the various weather stations in my vicinity.

The question that come to my mind is: Who do you have in your mind as the target audience? I suggest those who use the current service chose it because of the wide variety of info available presented in a concise manner. If you decide to merely duplicate TWC, then good luck. My guess would be that most of us current users will desert WU in search of some site that more closely presents the vast amount of data that we now have access to on WU.

FWIW, I do not currently own or use a mobile device, but that may well change in the future. What does it avail to compromise the data you now provide to primarily cater to the mobile user who can get the info (not data) they want from TWC?


Well in case nobody on the blog knows TWC owns WU.
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210. ywilma
9:41 AM GMT on January 19, 2014
I hope you don't do away with the map of my state. I always look at the regional and local map to see where the bad weather is located and which direction it is coming from.

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209. Tabby
6:51 AM GMT on January 19, 2014
As so many have said, I came here for all the excellent information. I've learned a lot and really enjoyed all the years I've been a member, but I pay my membership (and always considered it a real bargain) here because I'm interested in depth. There are plenty of apps for phones but not so many sites that offer information for everybody from newbies to old salts in as much or little detail as you choose. I too will sadly seek another site if this is the new direction. Please keep wunderground wunder-us!
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208. Shea
4:25 AM GMT on January 19, 2014
The only change I would like to see on WU is a comment section below the news articles. The BETA idea is trash, so toss it out.
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207. Patrap
1:04 AM GMT on January 19, 2014
As a Long time Home page user, I like the current look, and info layout.

The BETA look,well, I'll be brutally honest as datz How I roll.

"Can it," its not user friendly nor adequate at all.

And that's being generous.
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206. temarc
12:59 AM GMT on January 19, 2014
Sorry, but I'm sticking with classic.wunderground.com. I'm not happy with your currently 'new, improved' format; now this?

Just don't go about and name storms.
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205. Brandybites
12:36 AM GMT on January 19, 2014
For several years I have been impressed with WU's clear concise and accurate 'local' forecasts. Who else has heard of or took the time and made the effort for a little hole in the wall mountain community like Keno Or.
Not the big guys that's for damn sure! Since the Weather Channel has acquired WU the relevance, Timeliness and Accuracy of the WU Forecasts have greatly diminished.

Now your New Beta Pages? This is nothing more than a continued downward spiral toward the much worse.
Others have been more eloquent on this subject and I agree with them. Keep it up and WU will most if not all of its long time core users Including this one.

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204. pnb85
10:25 PM GMT on January 18, 2014
Like the other comments, I find the new beta to be sorely lacking in depth of information and think it would be a huge step backwards for people who are serious consumers of weather information. If I want a quick peek at the weather, I use various weather apps on my android phone or tablet. BUT when the weather turns or there's planning to do, it's always time to GET SERIOUS and go to the laptop to open multiple browser tabs or windows to various views on WeatherUnderground and get the whole picture. The TV version of weather reporting just doesn't cut it when we need to make weather-based, responsible decisions.

There are two ways that I would recommend to help add value back into the beta version. The first idea is to design it fundamentally as a container of containers, think of a checkerboard where users can specify what information shows up in each square. That way if one user needs to see information about multiple locations at the same time for comparison and trending, they can put the locations in adjacent squares on the same page. On the other hand if someone typically wants more in-depth information about one location, they can choose to see different information about that location in the different squares. A checkerboard approach would allow users to choose any variation of the above, entirely based on THEIR needs, instead of some predetermined layout of information that's likely to miss the mark for most users.

The second idea is to keep the wondermap with it's ability to overlay information simultaneously, for example radar, satellite and fronts. Also of VITAL importance on the wondermap is the ability to "time sync" the various map data types. I do this by turning on the models (say GFS), and selecting a data type (say MSL for precipitation) and then using the KEYBOARD (works PERFECTLY on a laptop, but not clear how to do on a mobile device) use the J and L keys to move forward and back in time to the time where it's the worst, and then use the I and K keys to switch map type to the others (first to 2mAG for temp and then next to Wind) all at that same point in time. This allows me to see how all three dimensions are predicted for the same time slices. It's an incredibly helpful way to see how all three are forecast to play together - fantastic way to study and UNDERSTAND the forecasts.

The video makes a point about the new weather map being full width. But it's rather silly, because most weather does not move in a narrow band from W to E like the new weather map shows, making it useless for all practical purposes. Instead the map needs to show the weather in a shape that corresponds more to the paths of storms and fronts - typically for my area from SW to NE or from S to N. A more square shape (like a laptop screen) would do a far better job than a narrow strip.

I too agree that the graphics are quite juvenile, but I expect them to be "skinnable" to something more adult looking.
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203. meyerzzz
10:00 PM GMT on January 18, 2014
i am having problems connecting to your sight. i dont know why meyer i tryed taking out the data logger and ac power etc according to the instructions but i cant connect
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202. YourOldMan
7:40 PM GMT on January 18, 2014
As a real weather Geek, I despise your beta product. It's as useless as TWC, or even merely looking out the window. Data is what I like to see, and as much as possible. I especially like the ability to readily change or hop-to the various weather stations in my vicinity.

The question that come to my mind is: Who do you have in your mind as the target audience? I suggest those who use the current service chose it because of the wide variety of info available presented in a concise manner. If you decide to merely duplicate TWC, then good luck. My guess would be that most of us current users will desert WU in search of some site that more closely presents the vast amount of data that we now have access to on WU.

FWIW, I do not currently own or use a mobile device, but that may well change in the future. What does it avail to compromise the data you now provide to primarily cater to the mobile user who can get the info (not data) they want from TWC?
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201. heavyweatherwatcher
4:34 PM GMT on January 18, 2014
I think the answer to the below question is clear: Save your development resources and reallocate them to getting better data, improved "best forecasts."

"What's Missing?
We're not done! Let us know what you're missing the most from the forecast page, and we'll work to include it. Your feedback helps us prioritize our development resources, so make sure you let us know what really matters to you."

I also will bail on WU if you continue down your implied path. You need to make a decision: who is your user? If you want the Apple-Pepper crowd, you will lose your core of people who actually care about weather, are passionate about, who need REAL information. That has been what has made WU successful. You should dance with the folks who brung ya...

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