September in Review.

By: sullivanweather , 8:31 AM GMT on October 01, 2007

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September in Bethel, NY

September Daily highs/lows - Bethel, NY

Normal September mean high: 67.33°F - September 2007 mean high: 73.83°F; Departure: 6.5°F above normal

Normal September mean low: 48.13°F - September 2007 mean low: 49.8°F; Departure: 1.67°F above normal

Normal September mean: 57.73°F - September 2007 mean: 61.82°F; Departure: 4.09°F above normal.

September 2007 Precip - Bethel, NY

September 2007 precip: 1.44"
Normal September precip: *N/A

Regional Forecast.

High pressure responsible for the delightful weather over the weekend is currently moving offshore. Return flow around the backside of the high will bring more warmth and moisture into the area bringing temperatures 5-10 degrees above normal. An onshore flow and a weakening disturbance will approach from the west Monday night and Tuesday spilling clouds into the area along with a chance for showers lasting into Wednesday.

A ridge will build back into the region by Thursday at upper levels. This upper ridge in combination with the surface high offshore nosing its way into the Northeast will make for temperatures more reminicent of late August rather than early October. Next trough will move into the region by Sunday providing the region with the chance for much needed rainfall.


A cloudy start to Wednesday with some areas of drizzle along coastal areas thanks to an onshore flow. With low clouds around and fall foliage season in full gear there's a fall look to the landscape today. As the day progresses clouds should begin to break, especially in northern areas and for the extreme southern areas. Despite the cloud cover temperatures will run about 5-8 degrees above seasonal norms for early October. Expect highs ranging from the 60's across northern New York into central and northern New England. 70's will be widespead elsewhere across the Northeast.

Clouds could hang tough tonight over the southern half of the region. Temperatures here will hold in the 50's with 60's closer to the coast and in the cities. Across the northern half of the region under clearing skies temperatures will drop into the 40's.


Forecast highs 10/4-10/9


NE radar


Northeast SST's

Current SST's off the Northeast Coast. SST's have returned to near to above normal levels for late September from southern New England south, with continued near normal SST's from Cape Cod northward along the coast of Maine.


Great Lakes SST's 9-29

Great Lakes SST's as of 9/29.

October daily weather statistics.


October 1st - 64°F/46°F....0.00"....15%
October 2nd - 69°F/49°F....0.00"....25%
October 3rd - 77°F/55°F....0.00"....60%

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11. NumberWise
2:12 AM GMT on October 04, 2007
And how about instant-on TVs that can draw $25+ of electricity a month just so folks don't have to wait when they press the remote button? (My TV is unplugged 363 days a year.)

Or remote car starters? I've seen people run their cars 10-15 minutes so the inside is toasty when they get in.

Or dripping hot water faucets? I've seen plenty of them.

I think your example of the waste at an all-you-can-eat buffet is a good one, but I suspect that your estimate of 8 lbs. of wasted food is likely way, way low. I, too, run partial budgets of things like that, and the multiplication factors create eye-popping results.

I think it's very useful to share our methods of being thrifty. I've gotten some neat ideas from others' observations -- like keeping the TV unplugged when it isn't being used.

As a society, I think we're disgustingly wasteful, gluttonous, greedy, unheeding, and self-absorbed. I'm not sure that we can convince too many people to deny themselves much instant gratification, but I do think that the marketplace can force some cutbacks.

In my opinion, Al Gore has no credibility as a champion for protecting our planet, and I'm embarrassed that he is an American.

Where's Fish??? Quick! -- snatch away my soapbox!
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10. sullivanweather
5:12 AM GMT on October 03, 2007
Hey Fish!!

Yeah, you know all about me and wastefulness, and how this type of behaviour should be differentiated from doing what's necessary for one to be able to survive (paying for rent, bills, food, ect.) and paying for lavish international vacations, cross-country extravaganzas, SUV driving bliss and the like.

Why should a person be taxed for driving fuel efficient cars, combining trips, recycling, ect at the same rate as someone that drives a Hummer, partakes in international cuisine (imported cheeses, wines, fish, produce, ect.), live in a mansion that could easily house 20 individuals and so on.

Those folks in society that strive to live the right way aren't the problem.
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9. Fshhead
4:42 AM GMT on October 03, 2007
LOL quite the rant there Sully!
*As I slowly pull away the soapbox* lol
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8. sullivanweather
12:11 AM GMT on October 03, 2007
Hey Numberwise!

Conservation is key. There's way too many folks in this country, and around the world, living in excess. This occurs from top to bottom in this country among the societal ranks. Whether it be the well-off folks whom go on vacation several times a year (excessive, one vacation a year is okay, I guess, but several?!?) Or whether it is folks that are young and don't have much money, still living with their parents (so they have no real bills to speak of) and spend all day driving up and down the main road in town, racing to the red lights and driving agressively along the way. This was a common occurance where I grew up, racing around.

Where I live now it's a completely different set of wastefulness. There's a single lane highway that sometimes breaks into 2 lanes to go up the large, steep hills. Once the lanes break it's a race to see who can get to the top of the hill (3/4 mile of 6-10% grade) before the lanes merge again. So folks traveling @ 50mph usually reach the top @ 70mph then fight to merge into the single lane of traffic. Most of these people drive SUV's and who knows what kind of gas milage they lose accelerating 20mph up steep hills of almost a mile in length.

If one looks through the culture of how we live in this country there's examples of this type of behaviour everywhere...

All-you-can-eat buffets
Grocery stores - notably Wal-Mart

These places are notorious for waste.

Think of how many pounds of food are simply thrown out of one all-you-can-eat buffet resturaunt on a daily basis. Then add up how many of those places have infiltrated our towns and cities, probably tens of thousands.

If there was a formula to plug into the wastfulness of all-you-can-eat buffets it would probably look something like this:


P for average pounds of food thrown away per resturaunt per delivery expressed as pounds of food thrown out daily(f) multiplied by days per week(d)
D for number of deliveries per year.
R for number of resturaunts.
C for cost of delivery (In terms of (cost of gas(G)/pounds of product(p)).
W for waste.

Of course this is all hypothetical now...but let's say on average a buffet throws away 8 pounds of food perday (which is probably a convservative estimate. This estimate doesn't even include the food we would put on our plates and not eat. Only food that wasn't 'sold').
Now I would assume that deliveries are once per week. So 52 deliveries a year.
Number of buffets in this country is purely guesstimation. Perhaps 13-14,000?? Who knows.

Gas cost we'll out at $3.21/gallon diesel multiplied by 120 miles round trip divided by 7.2 miles per gallon for the average delivery truck
Pounds of food per delivery is another tricky situation, maybe 1,200?? Another head scratcher.

Here we go....







If resturaunts managed to keep their waste down to 4 pounds per day then we get:


Plug in numbers 2-30 and we come up with a scale. Based on where a place ends up on that scale should dictate who gets taxed and by how much if powers that be decide to levy taxes on let's say carbon emissions. Everyone shouldn't be taxed for some of the measures that are called for, only those that are wasteful or excessively polluting.

This brings me to 'climate conventions' that seemingly take place on a weekly basis these days where scientists and 'policy makers' and lawmakers gather from all over the world in the hundreds and sometimes thousands to discuss what should be done. Here's a hint...stop flying all over the world!

We have the internet now and could have these same meetings via broadcast. Instead we pollute along the way to talking about how we shouldn't pollute and how much tax should be levied of the populous for going about their everyday business of making enough to survive, when it is those that live in excess that are the real problem because thier consumption is usually in areas that are unnecessary.

Folks like Al Gore, whom live in 20,000 sq. foot mansions and fly all over the world to 'Get the word out' about global warming are the real problem. Him alone lives amount of energy consumption of entire small American communities or whole African villages. Then we hear "Oh I did plant some trees to 'offset' my carbon footprint"

I've seen these tree planting compaigns before. Usually the trees are planted so close to one another they kill eachother off competing for space because those involved plant as many trees as possible just to say they planted x amount of trees, but never consider the space they planted them in. It's all political jargon.

Ok I've been rambling for a while now...have to go make dinner. But this is something I an adamant about. I'm sick of blame going to where it is not warranted by those where the blame lies.
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7. NumberWise
10:27 PM GMT on October 02, 2007
I was very interested in your comments in Ricky Rood's last blog, and in your comments here about conserving resources.

In the past year, I have made two changes -- replaced nearly all light bulbs with compact fluorescents and replaced both refrigerators (there is an apartment in the house). My electric usage in the past 12 months is 60% of what it was the previous 12 months.
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6. Fshhead
5:07 AM GMT on October 02, 2007
LOL a little peeved on the "new" look. Anyways did u see the end of the game???? The Rockie guy never touched the plate & the ump called him safe!!!!
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5. sullivanweather
5:06 AM GMT on October 02, 2007
Hey Fish!!!

I was just about to write to you as

What's going on?
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4. Fshhead
5:05 AM GMT on October 02, 2007
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3. sullivanweather
5:05 AM GMT on October 02, 2007
Hey Numberwise!!

That is QUITE the story there!! As I was reading it I began to think you were due anyday only to find out that you had your baby 7 weeks later! That's amazing and I haven't heard of anything like that before.

My Gloria story wasn't nearly as eventful. As a matter of fact I was only 5 when the storm blew through and I was on the western side of the storm about 5 miles from the center. I just remember a few trees falling. One in front of your house, a crab apple tree. Another couple fell on the route to school. I do remember the rain and the wind also, but that's about it.

Thank you for sharing that story!
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2. Fshhead
3:20 AM GMT on October 02, 2007
Sully you around?? Blogs actin little weird now. It lost my previous post just now lol
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1. NumberWise
3:06 AM GMT on October 02, 2007
Yes, we need rain quite badly. One of my clients does large landscaping projects (like over pipelines, along highways, and on landfill closures), and it has been too dry to do the planting and seeding that usually is done at this time of year. These seedings and plantings need to be done before winter to prevent erosion.

I never told you my Gloria story...

In 1985 we lived on a dairy farm in north central MA. I believe Gloria passed just to the west of us as a Cat 1 hurricane, moving fast and weakening over land.

We had spent the morning milking and feeding cows, and then we secured things as much as we could. Of course, we weren't very experienced at preparing for hurricanes! I was pregnant with my fourth child at the time and due in five weeks.

As the eye of the storm approached about noon, I began having contractions -- frequent, regular, hard contractions, which I recognized as labor. Going to the hospital in the storm wasn't an option with the wind and flying debris making the roads dangerous. So at 1 PM I had a big glass of wine and settled down for a nap! When I woke, the contractions had nearly stopped.

I read in the newspaper a few days later that several women in the area had delivered babies prematurely. The doctors figured that the low pressure of the hurricane had created a relatively high pressure in the uterus of these women, resulting in a labor trigger.

I keep watching for posts about this phenomenon, but I've never seen any additional info posted. If there is any truth to this, it seems that pregnant women should know about it.

(P.S. I had the baby on Nov. 15.)
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