Summer's End

By: sp34n119w , 9:37 PM GMT on September 20, 2013

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Hello WU!

Graphics up top, for a change ...

Somnolent Swirlies:



For the bigger picture, have a look at the NE Pac WVloop.

September Sun :



Sans Sprinkles:



…..

A poem:

There are the rushing waves
mountains of molecules
each stupidly minding its own business
trillions apart
yet forming white surf in unison

Ages on ages
before any eyes could see
year after year
thunderously pounding the shore as now.
For whom, for what?
On a dead planet
with no life to entertain.

Never at rest
tortured by energy
wasted prodigiously by the Sun
poured into space.
A mite makes the sea roar.

Deep in the sea
all molecules repeat
the patterns of one another
till complex new ones are formed.
They make others like themselves
and a new dance starts.
Growing in size and complexity
living things
masses of atoms
DNA, protein
dancing a pattern ever more intricate.

Out of the cradle
onto dry land
here it is
standing:
atoms with consciousness;
matter with curiosity.

Stands at the sea,
wonders at wondering: I
a universe of atoms
an atom in the Universe.

- Richard Feynman

swiped from the blog of Sean Carroll at http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/09/0 4/atoms-with-consciousness-matter-with-curiosity/

I know nothing about poetry, but suspect that that poem isn't very good. Such are the joys of ignorance that I can smile at the end of it, anyway.

Feel free to indulge in randomification in the comments!

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157. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
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156. Ylee
8:57 AM GMT on January 04, 2014
SP, did you see the APOD from the 30th? I thought it was so cool, I downloaded a couple of free 3D fractal programs, to see if I could make anything cool!

Well, it's not that easy, but I'm learning, albeit very slowly! Also, this software is not for the weak of CPU. Some of the renders takes my i7-970 six core with 12MB of ram 5 minutes to do the image! I think the Glitchamatic 2 here at work would go up in smoke, lol!

Hope you're feeling better!
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155. GardenGrrl
3:40 PM GMT on January 01, 2014
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154. Barefootontherocks
4:28 AM GMT on January 01, 2014
Really enjoyed listening to Basil with my morning beverage, bf :) Great find!
Glad. Knew it was out there only because I really "found" one. A 78 rpm recording, extra-large size, in some estate stuff. Apparently recorded in 1942.

Will have to view/listen to the Killer vid.
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153. juslivn
10:28 PM GMT on December 31, 2013
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152. calpoppy
9:48 PM GMT on December 31, 2013
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151. sp34n119w
7:27 AM GMT on December 31, 2013
I was feeling a bit embarrassed by my whine and thinking that if only I'd waited another day or two I might not even have mentioned being sick. Now I'm glad I whined when I did because you know what? Your sympathy really made me feel better! I've only been reading on my phone since yesterday morning (because the computer screen bugged me) and saw each message not long after it came in and it made a real difference.
Thanks so much WTS, gg, and calpoppy for easing my pain :)

Much better today! Was able to take a shower without leaning against the wall, LOL, so figured I was well enough to start playing catch-up on all that was supposed to have been done already.
Yesterday at 3PM I declared it dinner time because I was suddenly starving and that went well. Still taking it easy, on food and activity, but almost back to normal.

WTS - woohoo! Party at the feeder!! :) I particularly like Theia's crown!
Happy New Year!
Days are happening as expected again so I will probably notice when the year changes ;)

gg - my sis threw out all her Christmas dinner leftovers even though we know it wasn't the food, and I'll do the same with what I brought home, come trash day - even the homemade applesauce :(
Can I use it as an excuse to overindulge once I'm all better? ;)

calpoppy - a near-perfect football day, as it turned out. If only a certain penalty had been called instead of missed (grrr), I'd be all excited about the playoffs. Even so, yup, watching great football while huddled under a blanket was just the ticket for me :)

Oooo new yarn! Is it more of that nice homespun? So fun having a project about to start!
Hey, you're retired, not senile! LOL Truth is, remembering how to cast on takes awhile. For sure, youtube is your friend!

Heeeeere horsie horsie ... come on, boy ... Cali needs some rain ;)

.....

Okay, I'm necessarily more boring than usual right now, and haven't caught up on blogs or news, and just checked my email for the first time today, because the screen is bugging me, as I mentioned. So I'll just be on my merry way ... to bed, I think!

seewu :)
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150. WatchinTheSky
5:14 AM GMT on December 31, 2013
Hope you are feeling better! Else it may be - wrapped up in a blanket watching the Rose Parade continuing the 'diet' :-O
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149. calpoppy
5:19 PM GMT on December 30, 2013
So sorry you were sick and maybe still are? Watching football wrapped in a blanket sounds like a good cure for all that ails!

There is a head of a horse in the swirlies this morning! Unusual!

I picked up some yarn the other day so I guess I have decided to knit some more. Now how to cast on, LOL! Ah, videos!! Us retirees have short memories!
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148. GardenGrrl
11:00 AM GMT on December 30, 2013
Definitely get some sympathy on this one. It always sucks to not feel good on vacation and holidays. Even worse when you can't at least indulge in some comfort food. Ugh.
We will call this one the Ruffies&Ipecac flu strain :p
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147. WatchinTheSky
5:01 AM GMT on December 30, 2013
Oh no, stomach bug :( That's the worst, in my book, and fortunately I haven't had that in many years! It's always the baby (at least they can't deny it lol)! So, the stomach bug diet - that's a tough one. Glad you're feeling better, at least you've stopped losing days!
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146. sp34n119w
6:12 PM GMT on December 29, 2013
Hi Ylee! It was nice of you to drop by during your brief time back on the blogs. Hope you are enjoying all your days off :)
Looking forward to the voting!

Oh, as WTS noticed (though it was probably prompted by my copy and paste error, lol), I am excited about the longer days and the important thing isn't the number of seconds, but the fact that the number is increasing :)
Been meaning to mention that, you know, the weather is generally much more consistently pleasant down WTS's way than up here ;)

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Had a lovely Christmas, separated from the drive (which was horrendous due to the wind - I can't believe people live in Rancho Cucamonga - who would do that to themselves???), and so appreciate the effort my sis puts into dinner and decorations. My nieces and their boys, my nephew from Montana, and all were a hoot and a half. The baby was adorable, of course. I think I have some video of her but haven't looked at it, yet.

Didn't get much sleep Wednesday night so was tired Thursday ... at least I thought I was just tired. Turned out, I'd picked up the stomach bug that's going around, as did most of those at our family celebration (I blame the baby). I don't think I've ever been so sick in my life and strongly suggest wu all avoid that bug like the plague (so to speak). I'm still feeling the after-affects (some folks are getting over it completely in 24 hours while others stay pretty miserable for up to four days, apparently). I lost Friday altogether - like, I don't actually remember it happening. I suppose it must have, since today is Sunday (right?) (yes, the football shows are on tv), but my memory is a blur from Thursday evening to mid-morning Saturday. I slept a lot. Have I whined enough? LOL

I got a gift of cash meant to be spent on yarn - how cool is that? And they say I'm hard to find gifts for ;)

I think I've found the key to enjoying December - be too busy with work to go shopping or partying so as not to get burnt out on it too soon. The short time between Tday and Cday helped, I'm sure. I also think my town's citizens outdid themselves with lights and decorations, which is one of my favorite parts :)

Well, wanted to check in but I'm just rambling - I've been sick, lol - so I'm going to grab a blanket and go watch football all day. Oh, and try to eat something, sometime, lol

Happy Days, WU :)
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145. Ylee
5:50 AM GMT on December 27, 2013
Tomorrow's 10 seconds longer! It's in double digits, and accelerating! :' ))

You are warm! But hey, you live in SoCal! :' )
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144. sp34n119w
6:07 PM GMT on December 25, 2013
So many kind, creative, funny, and generally WUnderful friends here! Thank you for making my holidays, and every day, that much brighter :)
Really enjoyed listening to Basil with my morning beverage, bf :) Great find!

On my way soon to Beaumont (bit of a late start!). It's windy and warm and I hope everyone is at home with their families already ... and not on the road with me! LOL
Much as I love sparklies, stay away from the sparkies!

Merry Merry Happy Happy Tipsy Tipsy (wups how'd that get in there?) wherever you are and however you spend the day :)
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143. Barefootontherocks
7:08 AM GMT on December 25, 2013
Basil Rathbone recites "The Night Before Christmas"

Merry Christmas from
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142. GardenGrrl
10:52 AM GMT on December 24, 2013
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141. WatchinTheSky
12:27 AM GMT on December 24, 2013


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140. calpoppy
2:38 PM GMT on December 23, 2013
A Merry Christmas, SP and garage cat!!



Driving to Beaumont?
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139. WatchinTheSky
4:30 AM GMT on December 23, 2013

Oh, requiem for Mr Scratchy - well, that'll teach him. There's at least two who liked that video ;) but obviously many, just not on WU maybe?
That's all I had from the quick search on the hospital. .01"? That is pretty slim, we got .2", but we are also sitting on only 1.57" since July 1 - that's pretty sad. Sunny the next week and mid upper 70s for most of that - nice!
Yeah, my scheduling was out of wack last week and I almost went back and modified that comment when I realized the error, almost ;)
Someone must be excited for the daylight getting longer if even by just six seconds !
Have a good week.
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138. sp34n119w
10:41 PM GMT on December 22, 2013
One more time: Tomorrow will be 0m 6s longer.
Remember the reason for the season and relish the return of the light :)

Briar - There's only one of those rules that gets cited frequently, in my experience, and I usually counter with the one about mixed materials in clothing. Now I'm going to try also to remember the one about not reaping to the edge of the field -
Lev. 19:9-10
“When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field to its very border, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner. ...”
I wonder how that would go over with so-called Christian political Right.

Some of the rest make sense, or would have at the time, but mostly it sounds very personal to the person who wrote it. Like if you told a ten-year-old boy to make a list of prohibitions: Siblings may not play with their brother's Lego; The Last Cookie shall be always preserved for the eldest son; Thou shalt not eat of the many-flowered vegetables, such as broccoli and cauliflower, for they are unclean and an abomination unto the Lord; etc.
I mean, it's a lot of “this bothers me me MEEEEE therefore it must be stopped!!1!” kind of thing.

Ahem. Anywhosits ...
I did make it to the fair! It was crowded! And hot. But I met up with a bunch of folks and we had a great time :) Highlight for me was the Saag Paneer from a food truck. Hey, I don't get to eat Indian food often (like, years go by, because I'm the only person I know who likes it!) so I took advantage and fully enjoyed it :)

Thanks so much for the sweet critter photo and sentiment :)
It's been a few days since I've checked into your blog – hope DH is safe and well and that your own days are peaceful, in between the inescapable worries for him.

calpoppy - there is a definite parallel there, with the Pharaohs and many others. Standard Operating Procedure and we fall for it, every time. Well, not every time, LOL

I know I'm not supposed to like Ewoks to be a proper geek – tough! That's so perfectly cute and I hadn't seen it, so, thanks! :)

My arm hurts because of the yarn I chose. I knew that, and should have used wool instead, but, I like the fabric this yarn makes for baby blankets. The one I made for the other niece is seeing lots of use, many washings, and she loves it. So it goes. I got back to where I was before I had to rip it and the end is in sight!

gg @#126 - yep, that's it – Mt. Sinai. Knew I'd feel stupid, LOL! Though from WTS's note, I wonder – but haven't taken time to look it up – if it can be properly called “Jewish”. In any case, I agree, Mt Sinai hospitals have a great reputation.

That's Old Testament stuff, for sure – the charity-like thing. I had a group of Turkish friends at one time who were either Muslim or Orthodox Christians who also had the notion that anyone in need should receive. It's done for them but also for one's self. That is, it is considered to be an equal transaction, more than charity. Hard to explain to people who haven't seen it in practice all their lives, and doesn't fit well with Western notions of charity, which all seem to be contingent on the receiver being the right kind of person. Oh, dear … that could quickly become another rant. I'd best stop now ;)

@#133 – YES! GOAT! Sure, it looks like it ends up hanging from the tree, but, still. Also, high desert. And awful Christmas jumpers. Plus, Pythonesque trees-as-cover for sneaking up. Too, Santa as a desert rat in a beat up old trailer that they probably used because it was already there. I mean, come on!!! The whole thing's hilarious! No? Well, fine then.

Thank Syd for the reminder! Now only three days … I think I got everything (famous last words!).

WTS - yes, “Mr. Scratchy” had his fun ... for awhile. Then I got out the big guns and took him down. All quiet, thereafter ;)

That's interesting information about the Jewish hospitals and if you've got more I'd like to know it (without, you know, having to look it up, myself, lol). It seems that if relinquishing a sectarian charter has been done by Jewish hospitals, it would be a simple thing for the Catholic hospitals to do the same, and they should be made to do so – as I'm sure the Jewish hospitals were. They sure as heck oughtn't be getting state funding without providing health care. I guess we're all agreed on that point!

There's a new report released by the ACLU about the increasing dominance of Catholic hospitals across the country, and what it means for health care. I haven't read the whole thing, yet, but it's only 29 pages and full of stats. Looks like a good job.
[For the record, I found that at Ophelia Benson's blog, butterfliesandwheels.]

I sent that The Killers video to a few people and, apparently, I am the only person who likes it. Just watched it again and laughed all the way through. I'm just going to sit here and enjoy it all by myself, then. I don't mind!

Oh, right, rain. No.
I mean, the street was wet one morning but it was like .01” worth of wet.
Not going to lie – I thoroughly enjoyed the heat and sunshine and absolutely fantastic sunsets and moonrises through the clouds (including your excellent shot!) :)

You were two days early but who's counting? ;) Thanks for the lovely graphic! Perfect!

Ylee - neglected to say thanks for that dino funny – thanks! Made me laugh, in addition to reminding me of the smbc comic.
And I don't think that knitting conifer will ever get old ;)

…..

I'm so out of the loop – around WU and everywhere else. I even missed the Army-Navy game(!), and all sorts of news.
Nevertheless, I have collected a few random things …

Mano has been following all the NSA news and finds that there are some odd ducks among terrorists -
http://freethoughtblogs.com/singham/2013/12/20/un icef-is-a-major-terrorist-threat/

Swiped from the Knitty.com blog this week:
Why knitting is so wonderful.
And a knitted zoo for a zoo – including a pretty amazing peacock!

Yeah, that's about it! Told you I'm out of the loop, lol

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Wow I should edit all that down (quite) a bit, shouldn't I? No go, though, sorry! While I have most everything ready for Christmas, folks around me do not – and I'm the goto guy for last minute errands and rides. I like it that way :)

I may or may not be able to get around the blogs, but I'll be thinking of wu, and hope all is well for all who read here. Stay safe, stay warm, enjoy the holiday week as much as possible :)

Tomorrow will be 0m 6s longer.
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137. BriarCraft
1:20 AM GMT on December 22, 2013
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136. sp34n119w
5:10 PM GMT on December 21, 2013
Happy Solstice, everyWUn!

I watched the sun rise this morning.

Length of Day
9h 51m
Tomorrow will be 0m 2s longer.

So we begin to emerge from the darkness and welcome the coming of the light.



I feel better already.
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135. Ylee
12:19 PM GMT on December 20, 2013
I know I used this last year, but it's still disturbingly funny! Merry Christmas, sp!

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134. WatchinTheSky
5:45 PM GMT on December 19, 2013
I'm a day early but -
solstice photo solstice_zps4843104a.jpg
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133. GardenGrrl
5:01 PM GMT on December 19, 2013
#131 Oh My...there is a goat in that video.

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132. WatchinTheSky
9:35 PM GMT on December 18, 2013
I'm not saying that is messed up or anything.. but.. ;)

Did I see cal's house way in the background? LOL

I sure hope we get some rain :)
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131. sp34n119w
8:11 PM GMT on December 18, 2013
Best intentions today to come by and chat but got distracted by a list of Christmas songs to check out. So I was going to post a new-to-me version of Carol of the Bells but then I found something else, also new-to-me and ... well.
This has just about everything I could ask for in a Christmas music video:



Weather, whilst I'm here -
It's been very warm, very dry. Less warm today and cloudy and still pleasant enough. Rain tomorrow? I think the air molecules have first dibs on any moisture that passes through and the dirt will have to without. We'll see.
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130. sp34n119w
12:42 AM GMT on December 17, 2013
LOL!
The dinos come out looking better in the old SMBC comic ;)


[image links to the site where t-shirts are sold]

Had to get that in here before running off again (no worries - no asteroids (or dinos) chasing me, lol)
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129. WatchinTheSky
10:42 PM GMT on December 16, 2013
Had to look twice before I saw the little mammal running for the hills! LOL
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128. Ylee
9:04 PM GMT on December 16, 2013
This one's really bad..... :' )

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127. WatchinTheSky
2:24 AM GMT on December 16, 2013
Hey sp, did you have Mr Scratchy at your windows with the wind?? Really nice weather here for the while.

What an awesome Ewok :)

I found this - "To maintain its eligibility for state and city support, the Jews' Hospital formally abandoned its sectarian charter in 1866 and was renamed The Mount Sinai Hospital."
Seems there are a lot of other hospitals that have no intention of loosing their narrow religious doctrine but still peddle political influence while taking state and federal support via tax exempt status.


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126. GardenGrrl
6:02 PM GMT on December 14, 2013
Ahh Calpoppy, thank you for bringing the cute factor to the serious stuff here. All activism and no giggles or dancing makes for a dull movement ;)

Jewish hospitals, yes there are many. Seems most of these hospitals are called Mt Sinai. I have no idea why and am too lazy to look it up.

I grew up with a Jewish step-father who wasn't a real devout Jew and would often make things up about Judaism if he didn't remember the regular answer. This is why we had a Hanukah Bush (which looked a lot like a Christmas tree) in the house instead of a Menorah, although sometimes we had one of those too during the holidays.

One thing he was adamant about was Tzedakah. It sort of means charity but he says it means that everyone has the right to be helped. He was big on helping people out. There was almost no where I could go downtown without someone stopping me and saying what a great guy he was and how he helped them out.

Anyhow, Jewish Hospitals are like that. They will serve anyone at the ER. Often they funnel the non Jewish person to another religious organization or caseworker to continue the treatment if needed. The thing is if someone goes to Mt Sinai, they do end up getting the care and follow up they need.

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125. calpoppy
4:23 PM GMT on December 14, 2013
What better way to control the masses then putting up a figure head that has the direct line to God or is a God, like some of the Pharaohs of Egypt. That way people have to believe in what they say, or they go to Hell.


Have a good time today or tomorrow. I am sorry your hand and arm hurt from knitting!!!

Maybe you have seen this before, but here it is again, so cute!

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124. BriarCraft
11:42 PM GMT on December 13, 2013
After reading that list of 76 things banned in the bible, I have to think, no wonder a lot of bible-quoters seem so dour and grumpy. They have to remember and deal with so many restrictions in life.

Eating and hygiene are way up there, but then I noted just how much sex seemed to be on the mind of good old Leviticus. Me thinks he doth protest too loudly.

On a brighter note, I hope you can make it to the Renegade Craft Fair. It sounds great. And free, too. The only drawback might be the crowds with a pricetag like that.
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123. sp34n119w
10:07 PM GMT on December 13, 2013
Making up for lost time with another loooong comment ;)



Karen - thank you so much for sharing your experience. It sounds terrifying, to me, and I'm happy you got the care you needed, and another child you wanted :) I also appreciate the link and learned a lot I didn't know about ectopic pregnancy.
It seems to me that, even though it has been a long time, it can't be easy for you to write about that. I'm glad you did. I can get as caught up in these arguments in the same way that the “other side” does, in that I sometimes focus more on principle than people. Your story helped bring me back. So thanks for that, too.

WTS - that's good to hear, thanks!
Was it the Chief or the Shaman who first figured out how to manipulate their power in order to hurt people who have less power? Don't suppose it matters, as they are usually either the same person or in direct collusion. Collectively, the masses are powerful, but we're pretty easy to jerk around and, if that fails, we're easy to divide, making our power moot.
I think it is the season, though I know what you mean. But this is the one time each year that many folks actually consider the plight of those less fortunate, those in need, with something other than a vague sense of wrongness. This is when people may pay attention.

Oh, the fickle sun ;) I'm grateful to Ylee for finding that cam – I like looking at it even though I can see practically the same view from my window at home ... or pretty much anywhere in SP, this side of the river!
Still pretty chilly at night but it looks like it's going to be a very nice weekend. Assuming we can trust the NWS, LOL
Oh, Fire Weather Warning tomorrow, too. Bummer. It's not been terribly windy today, though.

calpoppy - while it may be that many, even most, American and Western European Catholics don't believe it anymore, the whole idea of the RCC is that they are the only direct line to God available, and represent God on Earth. I know plenty of Catholics in my own family who do believe it.
So, that's why they make these pronouncements, why they think they have a right to do so, and why even those Catholics who oppose specific policies don't try to stop them. I mean, if it comes directly from God (through His ordained representatives), who can argue?
Obviously, I disagree, on all points, LOL

Weather has been pleasant – especially today, now that the wind has finally died down. Yikes it was nuts – 48mph gust down on the flat a couple days ago. Still pretty chilly at your place, huh?

Oh, hey, that fair thingy … the craft fair … what the heck is that called? Anyway, it's this weekend, and you had said you might go so I wanted to remind you. Did a good job, didn't I? LOL

Ylee - LOL but now I feel ignorant … are there Jewish hospitals? I mean, there is no central authority, as such, to act in such a way … though groups could do so, and probably do, I suppose (as I type, I have that funny feeling in the back of my brain … the one that tells me that I'm forgetting something I already know, and know well, so will feel extra stupid when someone reminds me … ah, well). I know that the Seventh Day Adventists have an excellent teaching hospital in Loma Linda, CA, and that they (used to, anyway) serve coffee in the cafeteria and they offer a full range of medical services, including some that conflict with religious teachings. You know, like it's a hospital, rather than, say, a monastery.
I am not aware of any hospitals owned by JWs and that could be scary … except I don't think they'd impose their own views about blood transfusions on anyone, as even JWs can make that decision for themselves.

Has it warmed up there yet? Do you have to wait for Spring?!?

gg - Oh, well said. I wish I were as pithy.
It's amazing what people can do to each other while using religion as cover. Freedom of religion is correctly enshrined in our laws and our traditions. But, there's this saying … “Your right to swing your fist ends at my face.” So, anyone's right to practice their religion ends where it infringes on another's rights, particularly where access to health (or education or public services) is concerned.

I agree that it seems wrong that a hospital can take tax money in and then refuse to treat patients with the Standard of Care. That's not just a pretty phrase – it's a real thing used to judge whether or not a patient received proper treatment. There should be more malpractice suits in these cases but it isn't entirely the doctors' fault, and suing one set of medical people won't stop it happening again. I think that's why the ACLU is going after the Bishops, because they lay down the guidelines for all the Catholic hospitals.

Okay, calming down now … breathe ...

Corgi! Round and round with a corgi on a carousel seems to be the perfect expression of pure joy! There, that's better :)

Have you chipped your way free, yet? I saw that you went to work and I hope it's warmed up a bit. Do stay safe!

Briar - Awesome!! Good for you! And I'm happy to provide a signal boost :)

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Civil liberties. It is all about civil liberties, not religion. The rules religious institutions make up for their own spaces are their own and generally none of my business, insofar as they do not cause material harm to anyone else, especially to those who have no choice or voice in the matter (e.g. children, or emergency patients who are stuck with only one choice of hospital). Whether or not a specific individual chooses to follow a given rule of behavior in their own life is entirely up to them and, again, generally none of my business, again, insofar as they do not cause material harm to others, especially those who have no choice or voice in the matter (e.g. see previous e.g.). What they cannot do, ever, is force someone to adhere to their rules against that someone's own chosen rules for themselves. Individuals and groups of individuals must be held accountable for actions that cause harm to others, particularly when the other did not or can not consent to participation in that action. Simple as pie. Why so hard?

Wrote a whole bunch more and then thought, “Gosh I'm especially boring today!” and deleted that bunch, LOL
I'll move on … for now ;)

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I didn't even get through all my email yesterday. Oops. I did take a walk in the sun, though ...
PRIORITIES, PEOPLE!

Not too long until the Solstice … count the days:
December 21 at 17:11 UTC
Which is, um, 9:11 AM PST? Where the heck is LC when I need him? (actually, where is he, anyway?) How is it I could do differential equations, back in the day, but still can't do simple clock-math?

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Messed up my knitting on the baby blanket. Had to rip back 28 rows. I only knit two rows a day on that, because it causes me a lot of arm/hand pain, so, yeah, two weeks work. Trying to double up, two rows in the morning, two rows at night, but, it's hard to make the time. Ah, well.
The second pair of socks is coming along much more slowly than the first, not surprisingly, but I'll keep at it. The first pair have been worn a few times already and it's amazing how warm they are compared to my usual cotton athletic socks :) I suppose my rag wool socks are warm, too, but they're not comfortable to wear outside of hiking boots.

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Let's see what I've got here … both not fun and fun-ish …

Keeping with the theme a bit before moving on:

76 things banned by the Bible – a useful list for anyone who comes up against cherry-pickers.

The dust-up in the UK over the religious right to segregate people based on gender in public spaces.

The effect on feminist women for speaking their minds about a stupid movie.
[may be some profanity in there – been a couple days since I read it – and possible triggers]
I ended up reading several of her posts - she has a lot to offer, I think, not just the explicit feminist bit here.

What it's like to have Pertussis as an adult and why it happens.

Physics reports done by students might be fun for kids in your life (or, you, since there's some interesting investigations there). Click on "Topic index" for the list.

For anyone interested in the antarctic, thanks to the penguin cam at Ylee's, as well as those with botanical interests – there are two flowering plants in Antarctica – who knew? That whole site is pretty cool for flower lovers, generally, I think.

AHA! I found it! The Renegade Craft Fair!

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I'm going to go try to get a couple rows of blanket knitting in, before the afternoon's TODOs take me over.

Happy Weekend, WU! :)
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122. BriarCraft
7:25 AM GMT on December 13, 2013
I just did something I haven't done before: started a Whitehouse petition. Unless and until the petition reaches 150 signatures, it will not be publicly viewable on the Open Petitions section of We the People, so be sure to share this URL:

http://wh.gov/l0exd

Here's what the petition is about:

Stop Keystone XL pipeline. Stop fracking. Do something significant about climate change.

The President as said the right things about climate change and has taken some positive steps,but we're drilling more oil and digging up more carbon than ever. If Canada's oil sands get fully developed and we help export that very dirty oil, it will negate everything else we have done to cut our carbon footprint. Also, we need federal regulations to limit and restrict the dirty and dangerous fracking operations. See Rolling Stone issue 1199 "Obama and Climate Change" for more info.


If you agree, please follow the link and sign the petition. Spread the word, okay?
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121. sp34n119w
1:53 AM GMT on December 11, 2013
Well, you people are wonderful!
:)
I hope to be back here tomorrow.
Um, here, have some Chomsky to chomp on (if you haven't seen it, yet).

ETA: I was here but now I'm gone :( Wanted to fix the un-pretty link I left from phone yesterday.
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120. WatchinTheSky
12:11 AM GMT on December 10, 2013
I need a corgi carousel!! The world should be a perfect place :) That would be cool from corgi vantage point.
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119. GardenGrrl
10:18 PM GMT on December 09, 2013
Of course we could go round and round on how helpful the ACLU is, or health care, or religion...

or we could just go round and round on the corgi carousel where the world IS a perfect place.

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118. GardenGrrl
10:02 PM GMT on December 09, 2013
It boggles the mind that with the laws surrounding medicine and malpractice a hospital can shield itself from responsibility to the patients by playing the religion card. Kind of like a diplomat that kills someone with their car claiming diplomatic immunity.

If they take federal money via medicare they should be held to the same health care standards other doctors or hospitals are held to in civil court. I'm surprised the ACLU is taking that womans case instead of the Catholic "Right to Religious Expression."

At least this time the ACLU is getting it right.

Perhaps we could get Gloria Allred to represent the woman. All it takes is one civil lawsuit to win and open the door for medical malpractice suits against religious bigotry towards womens health.
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117. Ylee
9:08 PM GMT on December 09, 2013
There are no Catholic hospitals in my immediate neck of the woods(our formerly not-for-profit hospital bought them out, and leveled the building). I'd like to think that most places have a non religious alternative within a reasonable distance.

Do Jewish hospitals serve bacon for breakfast? Curious! ;' )
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116. calpoppy
8:41 PM GMT on December 08, 2013
The health plan will start in January from ACA. My health insurance now is covered 1/2 by my employer. I think my comment on #112 was misleading. So if all goes well I will be only about two weeks without insurance. So I had better make sure I stay away from buses, falling debris, mad dogs and other assorted mishaps waiting me, LOL!

We have been pretty cold here! Down to 23 the other night and 24 last night.

As to your comment on #113, I didn't think religion believed in playing God, but maybe the Catholic Church feels it can.

I will add to WTS comment Money and Control= Power. Corporations and religion both want control of us. Corporations in what we buy, religion in what we do.

I hope your weekend is going well,it looks like your temps are nice right now.
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115. WatchinTheSky
4:45 AM GMT on December 08, 2013
I'm not so sure 'no one wants to hear it'. Glad you're there to help ;) Since it's been happening before corporations were people, that's clearly not the cause but I think that has worsened the problem. Money=power - politicians know it, religions know it, of course corporations know it, but the general public as a group can't figure it out. I think it's scary that a group could buy the only hospital supplying an area with care and then generate policies that ignore the welfare of the locals. I have a gripe with certain tax exempt groups that are blatantly political. That should change, will it? Ha. Umm, not really the season, sorry.
Where's the sun?? Oh, it updated ;) Looks like you got about twice the rain I got, I guess that's about right... NWS was sure we were going to get heavy rain today, if they can't get it right, guess I can't fault the local tv for being off base :)



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114. SBKaren
1:13 AM GMT on December 08, 2013
I think what shocks me the most is that these hospitals will not provide treatment for ectopic pregnancies. Won't even tell a woman that that's what's going on. I don't know much about it but I'm pretty sure that's a death sentence, right there.

I had an ectopic pregnancy between my first and second. That's why there is almost a 6 year spread between my two. I was pretty naive at the time, only 24 and had a 1 year old daughter. I went in to the doctor because I thought I was pregnant. Had a positive pregnancy test, but the doctor felt a growth outside of my uterus. I was having absolutely none of the more progressive symptoms of an ectopic pregnancy, so they thought I could possible have a tumor on my uterus.

I was exercising pretty regularly to get back in shape from my first pregnancy and they told me to stop all forms of exercise. Kind of scared me a bit!

It took a couple of weeks to process the paperwork for the surgery, but before I went under the knife, I signed all kinds of papers stating that if it was cancer, they might have to remove my uterus, which meant no more children.

When I came to after the surgery it was my mom who told me what they found. A fetus growing in my tube. They told me I was quite lucky. An ectopic pregnancy rarely goes longer than 12 weeks (I was just about that), and can rupture and you can hemorrhage and die from bleeding to death. An ectopic never goes to full term - never. So the only options are surgery to remove, or rupture and bleed. Neither one is nice, but I think I'd rather have the surgery.

I did have my one tube removed and they told me I could get pregnant again, but it might prove to be more difficult, but about 3 1/2 years later I proved them all wrong and got pregnant within 3 months of stopping birth control. One of us is fertile, don't know if it's hubby or me, but, well, actually neither of us are anymore! LOL

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113. sp34n119w
9:57 PM GMT on December 07, 2013
Congrats on successfully navigating that system, calpoppy, and on the savings! That's awesome.
Do you know if it will change after you retire? Soon, now :)

I have to talk to a human so called on Friday and got redirected twice. Annoying, but did get through and will go in after the holidays. Looking good :)

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I'm cold! I know it's not that cold. I've been following the tales from gg, bfotr, Ylee, etc., and worried right along with WU about them and everyone else in the path of that winter storm.
Still ... weather, like politics, is all local ... and I'm cold! LOL

Oh, hey, it's RAINing, too! Looks like it started around 5:30 AM and has been light and fairly steady ever since. I see 0.29" at the spweathergauges. Nice.
[Rain stopped around 10 AM - after I started typing but I got distracted - and I think that's the end of it.]

While I didn't hear the wind machines Tuesday or Wednesday nights, I did hear them faintly on Thursday, I think. Last night, though, they were unmistakable. I don't know if more were running or it was a change in the atmosphere that made them so loud (not really loud - just relatively loud).

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Okay, so, I have something I want to direct folks' attention to but it isn't pleasant so I expect most will skip it. It has to do with healthcare, though, and a DEATH PANEL, so seems relevant to ongoing and previous discussions.

There's this group called the USCCB (United States Conference of Catholic Bishops) who are not doctors or any kind of medical professionals but who wrote up a bunch of directives for the operations of Catholic-owned hospitals, telling doctors what they may and may not do for their patients. The doctors and other staff are under threat of disciplinary action, including firing, if they do not comply with the directives (enforced through another group, CHM, apparently). Many of the directives conflict with State laws (most notably, the right to information). Many of the directives put patients' health at great risk, including a threat to life.
Still, many of the 600+ Catholic hospitals do comply the directives. Patients suffer needlessly, some will be permanently disabled, some will die.

One woman has decided to bring suit against a Catholic hospital that did not inform her of her condition or treatment options and did not comply with State laws and the medical standard of care. The ACLU in Michigan has taken up her case. For those who remember, her medical condition was similar to that of Savita Halappanavar.
People think this is not a problem. It really is, and it's getting worse (aside from all the hospitals being bought up by Catholic "health" groups, other religious groups are getting in on the (very lucrative) act and enforcing similar rules to restrict health care).
However, the story is interesting from any point of view, I think.

The story of that one woman.
The Complaint as submitted to the court provides details.
I also found something from Catholics for Choice
concerning The Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services
that explains the ERD in some detail.
I think what shocks me the most is that these hospitals will not provide treatment for ectopic pregnancies. Won't even tell a woman that that's what's going on. I don't know much about it but I'm pretty sure that's a death sentence, right there. Thus why I called the USCCB a DEATH PANEL.

The common reaction to stories like this is that any reaction is an over-reaction. Like, it's okay if it only happens once in awhile - no big deal - the occasional dead mom is to be accepted so that the old male virgins in another country are to have their religious sensibilities properly respected, which is far more important than a mother's life, for Pete's sake (literally).
There is a brief example of that at butterfliesandwheels:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/ 2013/12/shockingly-ignorant-of-the-state-of-aborti on-in-america/
[mind the gap]

It is a big deal, and getting bigger. In three years after the 2008 economic debacle, about 300 hospitals were bought by the Catholic Church. In some areas, especially rural areas, there is no other choice for medical care. Maybe that's why nobody cares - it's mostly happening to poor rural folks. Is that it?
I get that an individual doctor can refuse to perform certain procedures based on their beliefs, and definitely a patient can refuse any treatment for any reason, but a hospital? How does a hospital have a conscience? Rather, how does that corporate entity get to override the best interests of the patient and best medical practices? How does it get to serve as proxy for a handful of men who are interested only in maintaining control over people they do not know and are not responsible for? Why do we, American taxpayers, pay them to hurt and kill people? I don't get that.

Okay. I'm done.
I know nobody wants to hear it and wu isn't the place but it's so easy, even for people who care, to miss this information. I'm just here to help, lol

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Aw, look, the sun has come out :)



Well, that might update and be cloudy again ... or dark ... not sure, LOL

seewu :)
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112. calpoppy
2:36 AM GMT on December 04, 2013
I got signed up for ACA! After I got through the stone wall which was me, it took all of 20 minutes and is costing me next to nothing compared to the 375.00 a month I pay with a 50.00 co-pay. And my company pays for half of that. But I wish we had single payer!!!!!!!!

It is nice to see you about :))
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111. sp34n119w
11:15 PM GMT on December 03, 2013
Hello! Hello! Hello!
Ylee! WTS! gg!
Happy nearly-still-start-of December :)

I did NOT go into WalMart! I do not need anything they sell anywhere near that badly. I like to think I wouldn't behave that way even if I was starving and in line for limited food, and that's the only time you see that anywhere else in the world. Well, and soccer events, but, that's different.
Arrested for throwing money around ... well, it is kinda disruptive, LOL

Not that I blame anyone for shopping at WalMart, day-to-day - some of us need to save every penny, and that place does help with that. Unfortunately.

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So I'm here to drop a linky I found at Mano's today - 21 Ways the Canadian Health Care System is better than Obamacare. I am heartened by the fact that SinglePayerAction, in various guises, is still active, with a big push on right now because of the failings and flailings of the ACA. That said, I saw a blog post from someone in Texas who used the Fed site (since TX didn't take the money) and ended up with a monthly premium of $0.03! Deductible $750, co-pay $25. Such a deal. If TX had joined the more civilized, it would have been free, of course, and a lot less hassle.

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Long as I'm here and I mentioned "the civilized" (and the tabs are conveniently open) ...
Sweden is running out of prisoners so is shutting down prisons. Worth the read to the end, I think.
Got that at Ed Brayton's blog, with commentary ;)
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/12/03 /sweden-closes-prisons-due-to-lack-of-inmates/
[mind the gap]

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SeeWU :)
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110. GardenGrrl
11:08 AM GMT on December 01, 2013
White Rabbits, White Rabbits, White Rabbits!
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109. WatchinTheSky
12:28 AM GMT on December 01, 2013
But you can't give money away?? Serge gets arrested for disorderly conduct at Mall of America because he gave out $1000 tossing it out from 4th floor rotunda.
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108. Ylee
4:19 PM GMT on November 30, 2013
So, while you were there, did you buy some towels? :' )

Link
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107. sp34n119w
1:13 AM GMT on November 30, 2013
Ylee-
“We may be the land of Mitch and Rand, but we're quite progressive when it come to taking care of the disadvantaged. “
I don't doubt that for a minute. The mountain states have always had the poorest populations in the country and done their best to take care of them. With folks like Mitch and Rand, though, it's got to be tough to see that through. It's that income gap thing, again, dangit.

LOL at the turkey .gif – and all those I've seen that you found – good job! :)

Hope you're enjoying your long, and well-deserved, weekend off!

Briar – ha! That cracks me up :) Thank you and I hope your day was quiet and peaceful and yummy :)

calpoppy – very funny! Poor turkeys (who really are all going to die)!
I had a great drive! Better, I suspect, than you've had today! I know it's worth it, though :)

Thank you, gg! I hope you got some TDay goodies and didn't have to work … or work too hard!

WTS – as long as it doesn't eat brains!!!

First thing I did when I got home and settled last night was use my phone to get to WU to check … weather? No. My blog to see the wunderful Thanksgiving wishes? No. Susie77's blog for news about the comet? YES!
You may be a geek if … ;)

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I had pumpkin pie for breakfast :)

At 7 months old, my great-niece is adorable, sweet-tempered, clever, and fun to play with. This means that my Thanksgiving Day was extra enjoyable :) Only downside was fighting with all the other baby-starved adults for her attention. It's been a long while since we've had a baby around at the holidays, see, so we're all a bit besotted. I didn't think my brother-in-law would ever give her up ;)

No rain for the day, hurray! But the clouds were nice. I saw lenticular clouds over an eastern San Gabriel peak, what looked like mammatus clouds near Ranch Cucamonga, and a wispy Yule King complete with crown of twigs and holly appeared against a bright blue sky. The air was clear and everything seemed clean and shiny so there was pleasant scenery all the way east. Temps got into the low 70s and stayed relatively warm into the evening. Pretty much perfect weather for Thanksgiving Day :)
And traffic, while sometimes heavy, was smooth and easy.

Trip back was fine, too. Stopped at a parking lot in Valencia to stretch, as I usually do, and yikes there were a gazillion people there! Well, duh, the stupid stores are open and the lot I pulled into was at WalMart! I did not think that one through, LOL

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Been lazing around all day and think I'll … yeah, definitely will … go back to that now ;)

Hope everywun's leftovers are delicious :)
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