Creative Coding - ABANDONED!

By: sandiquiz , 12:00 PM GMT on June 09, 2014

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Here I am at the start of week two.

I must admit I am half looking forward to it, and half not.

Access to week two was released last night, so I am aware of what the week will bring...."digital patterns and interaction, looping and repeating".

Bring it on... bring it on... bring it on.... etc! lol

DAY 1 / Week 2

It is 5:20 on Day 1 and I have to admit I have LEFT the Coding course:(

It is meant for "novice" coders, but the course is full of folk with lots of prior coding knowledge, who have been able to complete week two's exercises today, in less than three hours. I took five hours to work on the first exercise, and suddenly realised I was BORED! I was not getting anywhere, and when I went to the help forum, I found I wasn't the only one who felt it was asking too much of course members who had no prior knowledge of coding.

So I looked through the other courses on the list, with spaces available, and found, and joined, one that begins in late September on HADRIAN's WALL... much more to my liking!

I also was finding spending so much time at the computer when the weather outside is glorious - with gardening tasks awaiting me - was making me frustrated. By September, the gardening will not be such an issue.


So I apologise to those who were helping me, Bogon and Data, and to those who were encouraging me, Bug, Ylee, Shirley, Wabit and GG, and declare myself to ever be, a coding dunce!!





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44. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
12:28 PM GMT on June 13, 2014
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43. WeatherWise
11:56 AM GMT on June 13, 2014
Okay, that was a weird ride and shaky start to my day! I did not reboot but closed my browser and reopened and now I am back on the real NU WU with Black bar at top and having to click to see all subheaders. Comment box is back at the top or between the entry and the comments and am guessing the 1-10 ratings are gone....have not checked photo section yet. Ype photos are back to NU WU format. Even my blog looked different before. My one photo was resized and squshed. Okay, I am back to normal in tiny print!
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42. WeatherWise
11:35 AM GMT on June 13, 2014
Your screen door is fantastic, Sandi! Am I the only one that has been switched back to old NU WU? No Black strip at the topthat you have to click to see subtopics. I am now back to with Mouse Over revealing sub headers as before and photos have regular 1-10 ratings....which means all 19 likes are gone and I guess zero ratings for photos during the LIKE season. Weird here this am. Maybe I should reboot? I just turned computer on, though. Community activity window is going in blog page. Comment box is at bottom? Oh, I know, it is Friday the 13th - What else could go wrong!
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41. Ylee
9:58 AM GMT on June 13, 2014
Sandi, instead of doing laundry, maybe you should go out and take pictures at a park, or something lke that! :' )
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40. Skyepony (Mod)
10:29 PM GMT on June 12, 2014
I had started that climate change course that Emanual was teaching. First week there was a coding error question one test one. You were suppose to be able to see a answer if you didn't get it in three tries. That one all the successive questions depended on. It was the math end that was not even covered in the hours of course material I already knew. Gave up. Came back weeks later. Code error fixed. Worked through the rest..passed. Went through and took week two test without watching the week's work, passed. But failed on the time restraint, should have been done a few weeks before. Flew through a few more..probably could have passed had i come back in time. Overall was disappointed that testing really wasn't so based on taught material.

For coding I like w3schools.. Go at your own pace. Pick which language you want, there is a good practice space, a kid can follow along..you can even just pick out the lessons you want.
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39. ozgalah
9:56 PM GMT on June 12, 2014
Hi Sandi. the first home we brought here we renovated the kitchen including changing which way the patio door opened. When the renovations were finished we had a bbq and invited the previous owners (now great friends) and of course poor Geoff walked straight into the door thinking it was in fact open not the solid door!!! Now in panic mode trying to get everything done before we leave!
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38. BriarCraft
9:16 PM GMT on June 12, 2014
Yes, you do want to avoid being exposed to chickenpox. I think chickenpox hits adults much harder than it does children. Hopefully the visit can be rescheduled, rather than canceled.

I had chickenpox, both kinds of measles, mumps, pink eye, and appendicitis all during the year I was in 2nd grade. My mother went to class regularly to get my assignments and turn in my homework because I was out sick so much.

Isn't it odd how we make habitual typos? One would think muscle memory would eventually take over and get it right. I have trouble with any word that ends with "tion", as I manage to put in an extra "i" every time, as in positioin. I have turned off the spell-checker in Firefox, so I have to correct my own typos. To me, that is preferable to having to find and correct the errors spell-check inevitably inserts into anything I write. Did you know there is a website full of auto-correct bloopers, some of which are naughty, but most are hilarious. If that has sparked your curiousity, check out http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/ some time.
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37. SkyBlue17
8:43 PM GMT on June 12, 2014
Helloooo! :)
Spotty Dotty (is there a male form of Dotty? lol) is in bed and sleeping deeply. I used the special shower gel. It had a funny smell to it, but hopefully it should work. He was itching...I'll have to get some calamine lotion tomorrow I think.
So, you have a new mesh door? You are one clever lady! Do you want to build me one? Hahaha
It looks lovely anyway and you have done a great job.
I used the new washing line again today-so much better.
The choice language from next door went on for 4 hours in the end. Rather tiresome.
Where are the courses found! An online college? I've been looking at some courses too. One is for £1800!! Quite steep. Another is £650... It's all connected with what I do in school, but the school wouldn't pay apparently. :( I'm having another wee look at all the courses the HT gave me and will decide my action after.
Lots of hugs from you know who! :)
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36. sandiquiz
8:19 PM GMT on June 12, 2014
I must come up with something new at the weekend.... now I will have time.

It looks like I will have the weekend to myself. I had a young man coming to stay overnight Saturday, but he is ill, and still infectious. He has Chickenpox and I have never had it! I've had mumps and measles, both German and normal, plus a life time of bronchitis, but never chickenpox, so his mum has decided he better stay away:(

Bogon - I am so sorry I never kept it up, but at least I ire-ignited a love of coding within you.... and Hopefully you will play with the "java" setting you found on your computer:)

As to getting things working... I got the new screen door to work, so that was once success this week:)

Ozgalah
, it's not only dogs who run into screens... I have done the same with the back door, the purchased one, as it is just mesh form top to bottom I was looking through the screen at the laundry on the line and wondering if it was dry...wham! Straight into the mesh! That's why the one I built has two cross members.... I see those and know the screen is there!

Got your mail... see you at World's End! lol

Poppy - thanks for the link, I have bookmarked it and will look at it later when I have more time. Thank you, it does look really interesting, and my granddad was in WW1.

As for sitting at the computer... I think that was the biggest problem... I was really still last week when I sat at the screen for over 5 hours each day! I would be rather up and about!

Wabit - I have had to go and water the pots in the garden... no rain for over a week and the wind is drying things out and they are dying!
It has been hot here today and the pollen chart was VERY HIGH for our area. Luckily I don't really suffer, and C takes a pill each day, all year, to help him cope. Fingers crossed, he is much better this year than he was last!

Hi Mike :)

Data - I can see how fascinating coding probably was when you were young and the world of computers was new. I am sure it was just the rate at which they threw the information at me.... the younger members absorbed it like a sponge, whereas I had to use a hammer and chisel on my stone head.... and it began to hurt! lol

This is the second screen door I have made... so add that to the several window screens, and I suppose I could be classed as an "expert"! lol It is not the usual thing here in the UK, but I hate wasps and flies in the house, so keep them out, but the fresh air in!

Mike - Of course, you need screens on your "decking/patio - perhaps you need a fine stainless steel mesh! that should foil the kitties!

Hi Karen
- lovely to hear from you. By the time you get back to WU the term time will be over and holidays. visits and relaxing begins! Are you going away to Lake Tahoe this year?
I am so glad you mum is settling into the new place... it must be a big weight off your shoulders, knowing someone is nearer to watch her.

Take care, yourself, and enjoy your "SUMMER"!!

Hallooooooooo Bug:) Hang in there, it will soon be Friday afternoon!


Hi Pros - You sneaked in whilst I was composing, sorting out fresh fruit and vegs and then standing out on the drive with my camera in hand waiting for a spitfire to come over! IT didn't! My neighbour had had a phone call from a photographer friend who said one should be passing over our area about 8:30.... zilch! Never mind, had a good gossip with my neighbour and his wife, who I hardly ever see as she works so hard! Her hubby is like me, retired, so we have lots of "chats and coffees"!

Thanks for putting it in perspective...yes, I thought it might be fun, but it wasn't!

Sending you a mail:)
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35. Proserpina
7:17 PM GMT on June 12, 2014
Dear Sandi, you did the right thing! As the song by Kenny Rogers says 'know when to fold'.... It is not giving up, it is being smart. You took a course that you thought would be fun, it wasn't so why suffer. (If you were a student working toward a degree it would be a different thing, but you are doing this for fun and fun it should be!). Hadrian Wall, how I would love to take such a course! Roman history and Roman-English history are some of my favorite interests. Actually I just bought a book titles 'Roma', it will be one of dozens of books I've read on the subject. Anyways, I have been on the Hadrian Wall and it was a wonderful experience. I am sure you will have fun with this particular course. Time to get off the computer. Vale!
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34. palmettobug53
3:55 PM GMT on June 12, 2014
Just a quick helloooooooooooooooooooooo
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33. SBKaren
12:48 AM GMT on June 12, 2014
Don't blame you for giving up the class. Going back to school at this point should be fun and challenging, but not too challenging or having you pull out your hair!

Two more days for me. Tomorrow is the last day of school for kids, then on Friday we have a staff breakfast, and teacher check out. There is so much movement going on at my school. Every year I hope for no changes, but it never happens. I don't think people realize that every single grade level change affects me! All the curricular content needs to be checked in and then the new checked out. There are 7-8 changes this year. It's been crazy!  We have two teachers leaving and one retiring. Already re-hired 3 new teachers for next year. More new names!!  Not sure how much more I'll work. I'll have to see how next year goes with one less aide.

Saturday we're have a three family garage sale and then on Sunday our youngest is taking us on a Father's Day hike. Already have 4 appointments set up for next week, but those will only take an hour or two out of my day. I'm feeling the freedom of summer already.

My mom is finally settling into her new place. She's been doing very well since the beginning of May. Keeping fingers crossed that continues. We'll be celebrating her 87th on July 4th. We're hosting a family BBQ lunch so those that have evening plans can still get to them. My younger brother and his family will most likely be staying a few days with us. Summer has definitely begun around here.

I'll be back to catch up with you and see how your garden grows!  Take care!
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32. clearlakemike
9:46 PM GMT on June 11, 2014
Your screen door project turned out so well! Maybe I should invite you over to my house to help me fix all the screens that our kitties have ruined. We have several in need of major attention.


I can't believe how destructive cats are on screens!! lol They have even chewed through heavy duty metal screen on our house. The screens have claw marks all over them. We have resorted to putting up packing tape on the really bad areas that were letting in bugs. It is unbelievable...like something out of an Alfred Hitchcock film. They hang from the screens like giant geckos! We finally just left a big opening for them to come and go as they please on the lanai. Planning to get a little screen pet door they can push open so not so many bugs (and more timid cats) come in.
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31. DataPilot
8:04 PM GMT on June 11, 2014
Awww. I'm so sorry that the coding class turned what should have been fun into work.

When I first started programming, it was so much fun that I didn't want stop in order to eat or sleep or go outside and play with the horses. The morning when I realized that I'd spent over 24 solid hours coding without a break was the morning that I decided to become a professional computer geek. I could hardly believe that someone would pay me to play with a computer!

In those days (circa 1980), class assignments were typically started on paper, since CPU time was too expensive to use for composing programs. We were given a ration of computing time to use with each class, and if we used more than we were allocated, we had to pay for it out of our own pockets. I always wound up having to pay extra. Although, I did make friends with a couple of guys who were able to help with that part. :D

None of my female friends shared my passion for programming. I remember helping them with their homework, and having to restrain myself from doing their assignments for them. I guess coding isn't for everyone.

Changing the topic completely...
Your screen door project turned out so well! Maybe I should invite you over to my house to help me fix all the screens that our kitties have ruined. We have several in need of major attention.

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30. clearlakemike
4:41 PM GMT on June 11, 2014
Quoting 23. Proserpina:

ClearMike, if you are interested in Roman Britannia, you might enjoy the historical novel by Rutherford titled 'London'.

Hi Sandi. The door looks great.


Thanks, Pros. I tried reading his "Paris" on the flight back from California last year but found it a bit tedious. I think I remember you trying to read it also and mentioning it had too many characters to follow. I generally don't read fiction but something like "London" I might get into. Unfortunately, I don't read books as much as I used to when I traveled. It was the perfect thing to do while flying. At home, I get distracted, lol...
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29. whitewabit (Mod)
4:28 PM GMT on June 11, 2014
another overcast day with mild temperature of only 66 degrees here this morning .. it is very muggy though with a dew point of 60º and humidity of 81% ..

allergens are low though with the rain we have had at only 3 out of 12 .. the pollen has had a chance to settle out of the air ..
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28. calpoppy
3:54 PM GMT on June 11, 2014
Hi Sandi! I admire you for trying the course!!!! For me, sitting in front of a computer is not always a fun thing to do.

I saw this a couple of months ago and have been meaning to put it on your blog. You may have heard of it.

Link

Zooniverse is a site where you can help scientists with their research. In the link above it is about British soldiers diaries in WW1. Not that you have a lot of time on your hands, LOL! But you might be interested. I was going to check out the Serengeti, where you classify the animals that are caught on millions of camera traps.
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27. ozgalah
11:43 AM GMT on June 11, 2014
Hi Sandi the door looks great, all our doors have screens (something has to keep those pesky Aussie flies out) and most are "crim safe" so the dogs cant damage them but the ones that look onto the garden are also quite fine and we have had the dogs run into them because they just see the garden beyond and not the screen!!!! Had a look at the venue you suggested and it looks great! Have sent you mail with details.
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26. Bogon
11:55 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
Sandi, you may have been trying to put the cart before the horse, or to run before you could walk, or violating some other well known aphorism, that I can't think of right now.

I don't know Java, but I bet there is a library function for generating random numbers. In particular you need to generate a random value over some interval, such as between zero and ten. You can use that value as the number of pixels between squares.

I'll shut up now. I'm just thinking that, while it may be too late to make an A in the course, it's not too late to get that Molnar picture working!
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25. sandiquiz
10:05 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
That code would produce a perfectly regular grid. ....Bogon, I got that far, but trying to write the code for the 'gaps' was what stumped me!
But as you said, it is 'ancient history'. I gave it a go, brushed up on my algebra, learnt a few more hex codes and came unstuck at loops and 'else if'!!

Pros, hello, hope you and your hubby had a wonderful day today. :-)

Briar - thank goodness this Ipad can spell 'briar' ...because if I had a pound coin for each time I had written brair, I would be rich. For some reason my left hand operates quicker than the right. I have the same problem with 'this' spelling it thsi so many times that spell checker believes it is a real word and no longer changes it!!! Lol

Thanks for your kind,words re the door...coming from the lady who has a wood shop, that means a lot to me:-)
The only problem I have is my friendly neighbour. He is very practical, and wants to help, but takes so long over doing a job, if he helped it would be winter again before it was finished! if I start something, I do like to finish it quickly...be it a knitting project, a sewing task, a gardening design, or some woodwork.....everything it seems but computer coding!!! Lol
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24. Bogon
8:56 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
How hard can it be to show people the formulas and when to use them to do what you want to do?

Well, the problem with that is, that everybody wants to do something different. In my whole life (60 years) it never once occurred to me to use a computer to reproduce the art of Vera Molnar. I guess the fundamental problem is that I don't think of computers as being artistic. Computers are singularly unimaginative.

I can imagine a function to draw a square and fill it with a reddish color. Call the function from inside two nested loops to index five positions across and five down. That code would produce a perfectly regular grid. One would have to introduce a small random offset, horizontally and vertically, at each iteration to approximate the oeuvre of Mme. Molnar.

Of course, that's all ancient history now, like Hadrian's wall. I'll leave it to historians to interpret this episode for future audiences.
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23. Proserpina
7:26 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
ClearMike, if you are interested in Roman Britannia, you might enjoy the historical novel by Rutherford titled 'London'.

Hi Sandi. The door looks great.
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22. BriarCraft
7:25 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
Coding challenged, maybe. Never a dunce!

Our priorities do change. I used to dive right in to new technology with enthusiasm, buying and studying books on my own to learn and understand even more. Over time, however, I came to balk at the changes forced upon us and thought of myself as an idiot who just couldn't grasp these new-fangled things.

When I got my first digital camera and got hooked on photography, I made the happy discovery that I am not an idiot after all. I can learn new things. Some new concepts were a bit of a challenge at first, but learning was very do-able. The same is true for you. The instructor obviously had a different definition of "novice" than you or I do. GG's rant says it better.


Max must certainly be thanking you for abandoning that silly coding class. Just look at the lovely screen door he has now! Bravo, Sandi. Well done! And a much better use of your time, if I do say so.
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21. sandiquiz
6:08 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
Thanks Ylee, I love sitting on the settee where I took the photo and looking out through the glass door, so with the screen I also get the garden aromas, too!

Bug....the screen mesh I bought is actually pet strength.

"Premier Screens offers the only high visibility Pet Screen mesh specifically made to resist dogs and cats. Our Pet Screen is made from multi stranded vinyl coated polyester cord mesh that is six times stronger then regular fiberglass or aluminum screens. Thanks to Premier, it still provides excellent outward visibility and lets pets enjoy fresh air without your worrying about damage to the screen mesh."
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20. palmettobug53
4:37 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
I see you've been getting some good advice. Esp the bit about taking courses that are interesting and not stressful.

The screened door looks very nice. Are you sure, though, that Max can't push through?

When I was coming up and before A/C was common, the menfolks would always make sure there was some sturdy wire covering the bottom half. It helped keep the screening from getting torn by kids, dogs and cats. There was a lot of to and fro-ing and those screened doors got a workout!
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19. Ylee
1:42 PM GMT on June 10, 2014
Door looks really nice, Sandi! I can see why Max likes to hang out there! What a nice pretty view!
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18. sandiquiz
11:24 AM GMT on June 10, 2014
Good morning, the screen door is almost complete, but is actually in place and doing its job. The brass hinges I have ordered are somewhere in the post - and once fitted, it will be totally complete.

It took me three hours this morning to stretch the screen mesh and fasten it into place on the frame, then pop it into place. AND Max loves it!! He hasn't left the open door for a couple of hours, sniffing the air and watching the birds, just like he does at the back door!

If I'd had to spend the three hours on the computer, struggling with code, it still wouldn't be finished! So there's the first benefit!




GG lol! You are very welcome to rant on my blog! I agree with you whole heartedly, and as an educator, I knew how to pitch the lesson to my audience, with special help for those who were finding it difficult. :)


Ozgalah - how frustrating for you, I do hope the internet connection is now up and running, and not intermittent!

I have not had a facial for years; the last time was in Fenwicks' in York! Mnn, looking in the mirror perhaps it is time I went again!! lol

Finn - Hello my {{{fellow retiree}}}. Hope you are well

Shirley - hello, what a frustrating time you are having with NUWU. I had no issues at all, but do not use half of what you seem to want from the site.

All I use is the weather favourites that track at the top of the screen, and the side access to 'My Blog' and 'My favourites'.

If I want to upload a photo I go to the 'Head' and chose 'My photos'and go from there.

But if you need to rant, or whine, this blog is the place to do it!! lol


Photo of the screen door above, and such a great addition to the conservatory, as it allows a through breeze right from the back door to the conservatory.

In fact, I even decided during the heat of the summer I might sleep downstairs on the conservatory settee, with the door open and the screen across, it will be much cooler!! lol

Mike - A blog on Hadrian's Wall does seem to be the perfect addition to the knowledge I accumulate on the course. I do know quite a bit about it, but to get more 'in-depth' info will be interesting - and who knows, a trip north might even be on the cards in the autumn!
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17. GardenGrrl
10:09 AM GMT on June 10, 2014
Good Morning, it is actually cool here after the rain. (Yay) 67f almost the same as you.
Oh those math related classes, they always seem to be put together by someone that does not know how to teach. At least it seems they do not understand the concept of beginner and do not know how to teach from that level. It is as if they feel all the students should have some innate tribal knowledge before taking the subject.

Oh well. If someone does find an intro coding class that is taught by someone who knows how to teach I hope they let us all know. Heck, I was tested at a 5th grade math level in my 20's but today I do calculations I don't even know what kind of math it is or what the symbols are called that I'm pressing on a scientific calculator but I know the formula and sequence to plug my data in and get the answers needed for work.

How hard can it be to show people the formulas and when to use them to do what you want to do? But noooooo, these guys have to complicate it. Rant finished.
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16. ozgalah
6:13 AM GMT on June 10, 2014
Hi Sandi, computer?..........Hadrians Wall?........... no contest!!!!! The computer will still be useful for research into Hadrians Wall so go for what you enjoy!!!! We are back on line today and so far no glitches, it has been almost a week and very frustrating. P spent ages last night talking to the techs then called me that it was fixed and we went to post some things and it all went off AGAIN! Had my facial which my Dau paid for today it was wonderful but I so want a cocoon room like theirs as I think I could sleep there peacefully, now back to washing and the dogs!!
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15. LakeWorthFinn
5:26 AM GMT on June 10, 2014
{{{Sandi}}} my fellow retiree ;-)
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14. WeatherWise
12:04 AM GMT on June 10, 2014
I am super impressed with your screen door project! WOW!

Who needs coding anyway? Hey! We are retired! We don't need to spend time on stuff we don't really enjoy or that frustrates us so.

Sometimes I feel that way while trying to get a blog entry in. I was trying to add a section about my cardinal nest problem. I would type and click the scroll bar to get down to the post button or upgrade or whatever it says. It was like a scroll troll was lurking in the scroll gully as everything I had typed disappeared. I did that 3 times and finally figured out when I clicked on the scroll it was taking you back to the original page like to the last screen or something. I learned to not touch the scroll bar but to click over in a white area outside of the text box and then use the arrow buttons to moved down to the post button.

There are still a lot of things that do not really work on NUWU. One is my link button. I am having to manually type or revise code that I have in a file with my new links to do my linking.

Another just small quirk that I have not even mentioned is when I upload a photo. It used to be you could click click on location and your zip code or city location would just pop up above the box....Now when I click click in the box, it pops the box across to the left top with the area code or places I have uploaded from recently still above it. I choose my zip code and then you still have to click on Find or it says you are in San Francisco, California. That should be called the lost and found folder as that is where many folks photos end up as it defaults to that.

Photo pages are slow to upload and largest percent of the time, the comment section does not work....after you make your comment. I have found if you just continue to click on refresh it finally comes up with your comment there after all.

I really miss the titles above the photos as often that was the eye catcher for some photos.

Also, I really do miss the little window in sidebar that showed the photos as they uploaded or photos with comments that popped up. That is really how I kept up with everyone. Now, the only way to see anything is to keep refreshing. Often, I mulitasked with that kind of over as a sidebar and when I saw something interesting pop up I would check it out. I feel like I have let a lot of photographers down by not keeping up with their work since I was switched over to NUWU.

Okay, I am through whining but you all had a long time to whine and fuss while I was still saying what NuWU - I don't see any NUWU! By the time I finally got it most everyone else had griped and accepted it.

Glad you made a decision for you!

Can't wait to see a photo of that fabulous screen door!
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13. clearlakemike
9:09 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Roman Britannia is a fascinating history. Haven't studied it all that much so if you share what you learn here that will be interesting. The last history courses I was able to study in school were Latin American history. It was simultaneous with an International Business and Business Law course. At that time, in the 70's, the US was experimenting with Milton Friedman economics on those poor souls, ie. Chile. I was also taking an Economics course with a disciple of Friedman. I found it all disgusting and still do. Naomi Klein has written an excellent book about all of it in recent times called "The Shock Doctrine". I also went to school with pre-revolution Iranians who later "disappeared" after the Shah got the boot.

Never hurts to try something new...nothing ventured nothing gained or no pain no gain, whatever, LOL
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12. sandiquiz
7:53 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Hi All,
Thanks for your support.....I suppose I tried to bite off more than I could chew. Some of the more "helpful" members on the help forum had posted a link to an easier "starting" programme, which might be a useful starting point for those of us who were finding it difficult.... I might investigate that when the "bruised ego" has stopped being bruised!!

Bug - the literature course (Language of the Country House) is full this time around, but I will keep getting mails from them, as I intend to "have another go" at on-line learning!

It was all on-line, but I did get the first two weeks handouts... which I might peruse at my leisure:)

OR even see if there is a "Coding for Dummies" !!! lol

Mike - I did 'A level' history at high school, and actually taught it for a couple of years about 20 years ago. Part of the syllabus was Roman Britain, so at least I shouldn't be a novice at the history of Roman Britain!! lol
And yes, I am sure I will enjoy it much more.... perhaps I wasn't thinking straight when I signed up... but the Hadrian's Wall course hadn't been advertised when I took on the coding course.

The bad weather seems to have given us a miss... all we got was one sudden shower, then nothing.

Bogon - I think I imagined it would be more of a gentle work up to creating your own code, but the difference between week one and week two was ten-fold! It was almost as though I had missed a couple of weeks somewhere! When I spent over five hours today, trying to reproduce the art work of Vera Molnar, with only a ten minute video and one hand-out to guide me...... I decided enough is enough! I hadn't enough basic knowledge to be able to write the code for it!

Wabit - you are so right... I felt I wanted to be doing things that interested me, and not something that tied me to the computer for hours!
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11. whitewabit (Mod)
6:39 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Sandi .. it did sound like you were stressing of it and at our age that is not needed .. do what you enjoy .. leave the rest to others that enjoy that type of things !!
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10. palmettobug53
5:50 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
At least you had the gumption to try for it. It's more than a lot of people would have done. Me, included.

If I was to think about learning coding, even a Coding for Dummies book might be too advanced for me! lol

You know, there's probably one out there. They have one for just about everything else. Why not coding? I might look at the library. You know.... just to see what it is.
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9. Bogon
5:38 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Sandi, I'm sorry to hear that you chose to drop the coding course. At the same time, I realize that computer science is not for everyone. That's what makes it possible for guys like me to get a job. :o)

Back when I took my first programming course there were no young whippersnappers with prior knowledge, because only large businesses (and the university) could afford to buy and operate a computer. My biggest problem was that I had to do my coding on a keypunch machine!
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8. clearlakemike
5:32 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Europe and the UK (and maybe Ireland) seem to be getting some interesting weather! We have a slight chance for thunder here today which I think is unseasonable.
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7. clearlakemike
5:27 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
I burst out laughing when I read the headline...sorry, Sandi, couldn't help it. Hadrians Wall sounds much more interesting to me as well. I loved the history courses I took while at University. I took as many as I could. I should have majored in History but not that much of a market for it, I guess. At least, that is what was warned. If I had it to do over I would anyway despite the cautions about it. Do what you love. Success will be in the journey and perhaps found in other measures of value.
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6. palmettobug53
5:04 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
did that course come with a handbook or was it all online? If you had the coursework, maybe you could potter about with it at your own speed. And when you felt like it!
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5. palmettobug53
5:02 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Oh, for heaven's sake! There's no need to apologize.

They should have been clearer about who the course was for and what it would cover and have been consistent with the intro level for total novices! Having those smarty pants in there, lording it over everyone with how smart they were would have gotten my ire up. They needed to be in a course consistent with their knowledge (and arrogance) level.

Perhaps you'll run across another beginners coding course later on sometime.

Hadrian's Wall? Now that really sounds interesting.

What about that other course you mentioned? A literature course, wasn't it?
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4. sandiquiz
4:57 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Quoting 3. Ylee:

Well, if it didn't work out, it didn't work out! Sounds like more stress than its worth, and what fun is that, even if it was a challenge?

Didn't know about Hadrian's Wall until you just mentioned it! Sounds interesting!

I am much more interested in archeology and history than maths and code.....so it should be interesting, not boring!
And yes, I was getting stressed, due in no doubt to my lack of coding vison!
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3. Ylee
4:45 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
Well, if it didn't work out, it didn't work out! Sounds like more stress than its worth, and what fun is that, even if it was a challenge?

Didn't know about Hadrian's Wall until you just mentioned it! Sounds interesting!
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2. Ylee
3:42 PM GMT on June 09, 2014
1st! Good luck on the classes; hopefully, thingd will get easier for you as time passes.

Don't get any stain on Max; "Russian Brown" doesn't have quite the ring to it! :' )
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1. sandiquiz
12:03 PM GMT on June 09, 2014

This morning I have painted the second coat of 'decent' stain on the screen door. I should be able to get the screen mesh attached later today, when it is dry, and the screen in place tomorrow. The brass hinges and hasps have arrived in the post this morning, so I can ‘fix and fasten’ it in place, then open the door to let in some air, but keep the cat inside, where he is safe.

This morning, at 8:30, the conservatory was already 85 degrees, and rising! Luckily the sun has gone behind cloud now, ready for the rain that is due to fall this afternoon!


Monday 9th June

YELLOW WARNING of RAIN for East Anglia, The Midlands and north-east England.

Scattered but potentially intense thundery downpours are likely to develop from the middle of today onwards and drift north across the region. The public should be aware that where these occur, they could bring a risk of surface water flooding, with lightning, hail and gusty winds posing additional hazards locally.

Drier conditions will follow from the southwest during the evening.



I am so grateful to the WUfriends, (Shirley, GG, Bug, Ylee, Bogon, Mike and Wabit, ) who have dropped by to leave encouraging comments, flowers, hints and suggestions. Thank you all:)

I will try to get around a few more blogs this week.
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